Podcasts about rude

Being a part of a move of God.

On this week's episode, Todd and Julie answer your questions about cheating in-laws, the decline of the dollar, and some terrible bullying by adults and children alike. Plus two follow-ups on strange family politics! Episode original aired: 11/28/2018 Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! TrueBill:Don't fall for subscription scams. Start cancelling today at Truebill.com/CC Boll & Branch: Get 25% off from November 23rd through December 2nd with their best offer of the year at bollandbranch.com Skylight Frame: Now, as a special offer, you can get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go SkylightFrame.com and enter code Confessions Indeed: Get started RIGHT NOW with a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to upgrade your job post at Indeed.com/cc

Boss Reggae Recipe with Sakis Rude AkA Dj Ma.T Show 18 On bootboyradio.net Please Like Comment Follow Downoad & Share

Dirty Little Secret is when someone calls The Jubal Show with one of their top secrets. No matter how big or dirty the secret is, Jubal Fresh, Alex Fresh and English Evan give the caller an anonymous nickname so no one knows who they are. Be careful to who you are rude to! You'll understand exactly why when you hear Spurt Hired Dirt's Dirty Little Secret! Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshow

Rude Revival

Brian and Bob visit with golf journalist Jeff Rude.

Boss Reggae Recipe with Sakis Rude AkA Dj Ma.T Show 17 On bootboyradio.netPlease Like Comment Follow Download & Share

FRIDAY! Let's have one. Full solo recap of the first episode of Peacock's REAL HOUSEWIVES: ULTIMATE GIRLS TRIP!! Ramona, Kyle, Cynthia, Kenya, Teresa, Melissa, and Luann all together in one house. I had a blast watching it. I think you'll dig it! Let me know if you want me to recap the rest of the series! Also, So Bad It's Good has a voicemail now! 323-425-9542. Pleas feel free to call with your thoughts! If you do you are giving me full permission to use on the show! Also, I'm on CAMEO. I'll be filming in Dorit's Room so sign up today at cameo.com and search Ryan Bailey! Have a great week guys! Brand New styles just landed online for the fall season. Listeners can Buy One Get One FREE on the entire collection by visiting https://www.victoriaemerson.com/sobad and using code SOBAD. Once again, that's https://www.victoriaemerson.com/sobad and use the code SOBAD. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and So Bad It's Good listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp dot com slash sobad. Remember to subscribe and join me Monday thru Thursday for interviews with podcasters and reality starts, show recaps, Garth and Justin, Bill and Becky Bailey and so much more!! Plus, tell your friends. I, honestly, think there is something for everyone in these pods. The more the merrier!  ALSO GO CHECK OUT THE PATREON patreon.com/sobaditsgood. Support what we are doing here. THANK YOUUUUUUU!!!!! If you're enjoying the insane amount of blood, sweat and literal tears of this pod consider telling a friend or rating us 5 stars on iTunes! Special shoutout to Maritza Lopez (Insta: @maritza.gif) for all of her insanely hard work creating these beautiful pieces of art on my instagram and patreon page!!  Time Stamps are below. Use them. They are your friend. This pod isn't meant to be digested all at once! Contact me on Insta if you need me to send them to you if you can't find them! LISTEN TO THE WHOLE THING! Instagram: @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey, @ryanbailey25 Twitter:@ryanabailey25 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Hello from the other siiiiide!I hope you've all had a good week.  Shoutout to Nicole Byer, Paul Brunson & my friend Marvin for being my mentors.  It's only a week in & it's already reaping dividends (well, not Marvin, this mf hasn't responded yet - how RUDE!). You can find me on the gram at:  www.instagram.com/lawofattractionchangedmylife www.instagram.com/francescaamber Thanks for listening, I will see you next week.  Fran x Join my Book Club! Join my Patreon for exclusive content, monthly self-improvement book club, Off Topic podcast & more! Join my Book Club! Join my Patreon for exclusive content, monthly self-improvement book club, Off Topic podcast & more!Official Podcast Store Manifesting candles, gratitude journals, thankful necklaces & more... Try Hello Fresh for 60% off! One of the best things I've done for my life, get 60% off your first box, 35% off next 3 boxes. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/lawofattractionchangedmylife)

Damjan Rudez spent just one season with the Pacers, but he quickly became close with the team and was appreciated by fans. On this episode, Damo opens up on his decision to retire from basketball at 35 and how his one year with the franchise "remains the highlight of my career.” Among the items discussed on this episode: Why now and the factors that went into his decision. How he plans to fill the time with family, coaching and broadcasting. Other teammates deciding to retire recently, like Ian Mahinmi, and hearing from his Pacers family. Feeling crushed when he was traded to Minnesota, and learning about the business of basketball. His experiences with the Timberwolves and the Magic, reuniting with Frank Vogel in Orlando for a season. The value of playing professionally as a teenager and being pushed by veterans. The conditions in Croatia amid the ongoing pandemic. ----- For great Pacers tickets, visit OnlyIndyTickets.com. They have great tickets for terrific prices for every game on the schedule. From hard-to-find seats for hot match-ups to bargain tickets that are cheaper than the box office. Only Indy Tickets is your first stop for Pacers tickets and anything else going on in Indianapolis. ----- Podcast listeners can get 25% off a subscription of Fieldhouse Files by going to http://fieldhousefiles.substack.com/ffpodcast. Follow Scott on Twitter and Instagram.

Natasha Broodie (lifewiththebige.com) has a new book called 'Give Me Tea, Please' (Amazon Link), which helps English learners sound more polite and less direct when speaking English. There are so many subtle nuances to pick up here and it's never as simple as just translating from your mother tongue.We cover many topics including: learning 4 languages at the same time, how to sound less rude, the differences between UK and US culture, and Natasha's language learning mistakes.Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jYRwF0ZVQOkShow notes page - https://levelupenglish.school/podcast135Join Level Up English - https://levelupenglish.schoolTranscript - https://levelupenglish.school/transcripts 

Are your colleagues rude? Do people regularly ignore each other or dismiss opinions in meeting? Ever gotten an all caps email? On All in the Mind this week, we examine the toxic effects of rude behaviour. And are we getting more rude as a society?

The Portland Trail Blazers fall short in their bid to win their first road game of the season and fall to 0-6 on the road with two more games on the trip before heading home to a back to back. It was an unusually cruel night as the Blazer's demise was not handed out by Chris Paul or Devin Booker - not Mikal Bridges of the villainous Jae Crowder. Instead, Frank “The Tank” Kaminsky embodied the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - raining down fire and brimstone in between post moves. Rude. Damian Lillard, clearly limited by whatever is ailing him, delivered in a different manner than in the past. Without the strength to get the 3-ball up effectively, he attacked the midrange religiously and with a good success rate. Meanwhile, Norman Powell is the only Blazer to hit more than ONE three pointer tonight (3-8) as Portland finished 7-30 from deep. This team will live and die by the three... now where have I heard that before? Hop on the stream and hangout, commiserate, or do whatever it is you do to unwind after a game - join hosts Danny Marang and Brandon Sprague as they get into the Jacked Ramsays Post Game Show. SUBSCRIBE: YouTube, Twitch, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google and Anywhere You Get Podcasts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Genny & Juli discuss early holiday decorating and aging body parts. This week, they watched the 2019 Netflix film ALWAYS BE MY MAYBE, which was actually very enjoyable so they don't have much to snark about. Rude!Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @quefunnypodcast or send us an email at quefunnypodcast@gmail.com, but not if you want to tell us you didn't laugh -- keep that to yourself!Music:Arroz Con Pollo by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3381-arroz-con-polloLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

And we're back! The Rude Urban Truth with yet another new episode. This week, we have our usual Black Magic and some weird situations that took were posted on Reddit. They were so crazy. We dive into the Travis Scott thing*Disclaimer*The recording of this episode was before a lot of the videos started releasing to show how close some of the incidents were to him and how it would have been hard to ignore what has taken place. Our views have changed from the recording. Don't jump down our throats lolWe also talk about Will and Jada. #TravisScott #WillSmith #Jada #RedTableTalk #sex #RudeTalk #RudeNews #BlackMagicWomen #BlackWomen #Reddit #Bestof

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're Fast & Furious, Darren Pang dials in, DiCaprio v. Bezos, Aaron Rodgers ruined Howard Stern's weekend, Scottie Pippen popping off, Trudi & Marc: Toilet Twins, Eli stops by, and Drew wants to leave the Earth.Marc and Trudi both started the show on the toilet... together and separate.Darren Pang (of Stéphane Yelle/Chris Chelios fame) joins the show to promote The Jamie Daniels Foundation Celebrity Roast of Brett Hull.Music: Nobody hates Dolly Parton. The Bee Gees wrote Islands in The Stream. Martha Reeves has been invited to join the Rolling Stones on stage at Ford Field on November 15th. Drew likes Marvin Gaye's super slow version of Yesterday.Some people are saying Dave Portnoy released his own sex tape to preemptively combat the Business Insider article.Drew is upset that Aaron Rodgers is getting more hate than Deshaun Watson. Some people are saying that Kyrie Irving got the most crap.Lyla's streak is back at 0 days."Rude little pig" Ireland Baldwin comes to Travis Scott's defense.Kylie Jenner's cosmetics business appears to suffer due to her husband's concert etiquette.Bill Maher is a confirmed bachelor.Coleman Young II is better at winning elections than Joel Loving.Byron Allen thinks McDonald's is racist because he wants them to spend more money on advertising with his networks.'See It My Way' with Eli Zaret zones in on Aaron Rodgers, Kyrie Irving and Barstool's Dave Portnoy. Jim Harbaugh vs Mel Tucker. Jordan Love hates his family. State Farm must hate the vaccine.Drew tells the tale of murdered prosecutor, and possible groomer, Steve Tauzer.1/3 of all Millennials are apparently LGBT.Scottie Pippen pops off on GMA. This time he's whining to promote his poorly titled new book.This is probably the last tour for the geriatric Rolling Stones.Vin Diesel is trying to get The Rock back in the F&F family... but hopefully he's too busy running for president in 2024.We try to figure out the entire Fast & Furious franchise in one segment.Look at these famous bald people with hair.Lauren Sanchez wants to bang Leo DiCaprio. Jeff Bezos certainly wants to watch.Don Lemon "vigorously" wants to settle his lawsuit. Dustin Hice ain't having it.Flute Rock is BACK as Jethro Tull is dropping new tunes.Howard Stern wants Aaron Rodgers kicked out of the NFL because he ruined his weekend.Las Vegas had two top-20 picks in the 2020 NFL Draft. They are gone now.Drew hates 'Build Back Better'.Kyle Rittenhouse had a good day in court.Social media is dumb but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

Episode 50! This was meant to be a shorty aka Speed Run because Jackie had better things to do but we ended up talking so much that even though we skipped several segments it's actually just a regular length episode, not our PB. That's a speedrunner term, I am very cool for knowing it. Jackie has been pro being perceived this week and Jill had an… experience at the doctor that you're probably gonna wanna know about. We have a great listener question and a fun new segment where we get to help Jackie with her OK Cupes profile! Plus a genuinely upsetting FAP Check and a Quick Queer Qorner. You can listen to Fetch A Pail wherever you get your podcasts, but if you listen on Spotify you can participate in some weekly questions AND soon will be able to upload voice messages for us! That's some fancy future shit. Jackie's FFS GoFundMe Jackie's FFS & Recovery Fund Email questions to questions@fetchapail.com Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/FetchAPail Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/fetchapail --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/fetchapail/message

Boss Reggae Recipe with Sakis Rude AkA Dj Ma.T Show 16 On bootboyradio.netPlease Like Comment Follow Download & Share

A trip to Hawaii led to a roadside shrimp stand which led to opening a food truck and then a full-service restaurant. The story behind The Rude Shrimp Co. is wild as the food is delicious! Hear how TJ, his wife, Lisa, and their friends have made an idea explode into one of Omaha's coolest restaurants in just a few years. Also follow up on Facebook, Twitter,  Instagram, AND my blog Restaurant Hoppen! Sponsored by Certified Piedmontese. Visit their website, use Promo Code: HOPPEN, and receive 25% off your order! A Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a digital media and commercial video production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network and learn more about our other services today on HurrdatMedia.com.

In this tipsy 42nd episode, The Froth team discusses the best way to dispose of an unwanted sex doll; and Lloyd's feet go viral. If you like your comedy inflatable and smelling of feet, this is the episode for you! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On this episode of Quantum Week: movie “Guardians Of The Galaxy”, and song “Rude” by Magic!.   Want extra content? Become a Patron!

Marianne, Bob's wife and founder of Savvy-Planet, joined Bob to share some of the things that customers do to be polite that are actually rude. For example: do not wait until the end of your meal to split the check, tell the server while you’re ordering. Marianne joins Bob for a weekly segment following the 8:30am […]

local pharmacy techs, teachers, and others who have to deal with humans we are so sorry.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Angel and Marcus have a buzz-worthy

In today's English lesson I will give you some tips to improve your manners in English and sound more polite. If you feel like you are sometimes too harsh or you feel like people think you're rude, try some of the tricks in today's lesson. Check out my youtube video about Rude English phrases: https://youtu.be/nGhYQOw35Ts Get English lesson emails from Teacher Kayla http://eepurl.com/hdgqo1 SUPPORT THE PODCAST: Use the link here to download Grammarly for free to proofread your English writing! https://grammarly.go2cloud.org/SH2iY LEAVE ME A VOICE RECORDING! Ask a question, ask for speaking feedback, ask about an English idiom or vocabulary word... Let me know how I can help you, and I will respond in next week's episode. Use this link and click "message" View all of my English reading recommendations www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-b90c11bd EMAIL: ENGLISHWITHKAYLA@GMAIL.COM My website: englishwithkayla.com Instagram: @englishwithkayla --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/english-with-kayla/message

Rudeness is contagious, in a similar way to a virus. When experiencing a rude encounter, our brain perceives it like a threat. And once we've tuned in to this low-level threat, we're more likely to notice it around us, and therefore more likely to display rude behavior ourselves. Our guest on this episode is Dr Trevor Foulk PhD, Assistant Professor of Management & Organization at the University of Maryland. His well published research on deviant workplace behaviors and workplace power dynamics, has been featured in Time magazine, Harvard Business Review, and the Wall Street Journal. Trevor walks us through what rude behavior actually is, what our evolutionary response to it is and how we can take steps to mitigate the effects of it. We are also delighted to talk about Trevor's research around the way power changes our behavior, and what impact a feeling of paranoia can add to the dynamics. And to Tim's delight, Trevor also boosts our understanding of how music affects work performance.  Truth be told, our conversation with Trevor has opened our eyes into how rude behavior really impacts people. And in our Grooving Session, at the end of the episode, Kurt and Tim recap the ways Trevor's research can improve our lives. If you enjoy listening to our podcast, you can become an exclusive Behavioral Grooves Patreon member at https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves.  Topics  (3:28) Welcome and speed round (8:38) How rudeness is contagious. (11:45) Why do we view rudeness as threatening? (13:10) The solutions to rudeness. (15:36) How our response to rudeness differs from holding a grudge. (17:52) Are certain personality types more susceptible to rudeness? (19:15) What effect does rudeness have on medical professionals? (22:59) Can gratitude have the opposite effect to rudeness? (24:27) How the Anchoring Effect is affected by rudeness. (28:43) How does a feeling of power change our behavior? (35:40) Paranoia and power. (39:51) How does music influence performance? (47:35) Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim discussing what we've learnt from Trevor's interview. © 2021 Behavioral Grooves Links Dr Trevor Foulk PhD: https://www.rhsmith.umd.edu/directory/trevor-foulk  Foulk, T.A., Woolum, A., & Erez, A. (2016). Catching rudeness is like catching a cold: The contagion effects of low-intensity negative behaviors. Journal of Applied Psychology: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Administration/Probation/ResearchInBriefs/RIB_Rudeness_Apr16(1).pdf  Riskin, A. Erez, A., Foulk, T.A., Kugelman, A., Gover, A., Shoris, I, Riskin, K., & Bamberger, P.A. (2015). The impact of rudeness on medical team performance: A randomized trial. Pediatrics: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26260718/  Foulk, T.A., Lanaj, K., Tu, M., Erez, A., & Archambeau, L. (2018)  Heavy is the head that wears the crown: An ator-centric approach to psychological power, abusive behavior, and perceived incivility.  Academy of Management Journal: https://journals.aom.org/doi/10.5465/amj.2015.1061  John Bargh: Episode 155. Dante, Coffee and the Unconscious Mind: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/john-bargh-dante-coffee-and-the-unconscious-mind/ John Bargh, Episode 248. Do We Control Situations or Do Situations Control Us? https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/control-situations-with-john-bargh/  Vanessa Bohns, Episode 253. Why You Don‘t Need to be Powerful to be Influential: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/influence-vanessa-bohns/ Musical Links  Lyle Lovett and Robert Earl Keen “This Old Porch”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1xY2pu31h4 Jim Croce “Operator”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw01trwmul0 Rancid “Fall Back Down”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CinJuVtdp3Y Jimmy Buffett “Margaritaville”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3HBcgxOWAQ

Jon alienates our Ohio listeners, David discusses Dune and Dopesmoker, new stickers for new Patreons! Support us on Patreon at patreon.com/electionprofitmakers. Send your election prediction questions to contact@electionprofitmakers.com. Go to www.PredictIt.org/promo/EPM20 to receive up to $20.00 in matching funds. If you'd like to buy a Digital Copy of David's album YOU AINT GOIN NOWHERE, you can do that here: http://davidreesrecords.bandcamp.com

Alexis reads your sticks -- one really good and one not so much. We love RuPaul's Drag Race UK, but we love different queens. "We're Here" on HBO is fantastic and opening hearts and minds. A rude guy at Sephora has jumped the shark!

Is It Rude To Ask Someone If They're Vaccinated Or Not?   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/the-bert-show.

Amy Goodmurphy (comedian/actor) gets fooled by the Blocked Boys into thinking they're wholesome, as the episode starts with some very pleasant conversation about acting in commercials, chocolates, and Christmas. But it quickly devolves as Amy herself takes it off the deep end with a story about some illicit messages her friend received and we get into our most drunken moments, New Zealand's official wizard, and Panamanian television. Plus, Amy's Block Tale does not disappoint, as a person sees an ad with her in it on Instagram and immediately takes things to a bad place.   If you want to go to a good place, head on over to patreon.com/blockedparty, where $5/month gets you access to THREE bonus episodes every single month. This is a double bonus episode week so there's no better time to get on board as we invite listener fave Nick Nemeroff back to answer some mailbag questions and John dips into his first ever Curling Twitter block with our pal Charles Star. Plus we've got ad-free episodes, a sweet Discord, merch deals and more, so check it out!   Amy Goodmurphy is a writer, comedian, and actor, whose show "The Ryan and Amy Show" has won the Just for Laughs Film Fest award and can be found on Instagram at @ryanandamyshow. They're launching a new podcast, "Poor Lil' Thing" very soon. You can also see her on Mighty Ducks: Game Changers on Disney+ and on her Instagram at @amyrickygee.

#FREEFIGHTINWORDS they got us like Britney in this piece! banned for 72 hours from gram for being too epic. RUDE. Gram are cucks.We go over Shakur Stevens Epic Win!, AJ new trainer Shopping? Tyson vs Logan? come on, Jake vs Tommy and the Dillian Whyte Situation.LIKE COMMENT RATE SUBSCRIBE!ENJOY=========  SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS ===============MARKET SQUAWK for all your financial data needwww.themarketsquawk.comXBRAIN ENTER PROMO CODE "FIGHTINWORDS" TO SAVE 30% OFF YOUR ORDERwww.xbrain.co.ukFUNDAMENTAL FITNESS ENTER PROMO CODE "CCC15 "TO SAVE 15% OFF YOUR ENTIRE ORDER OF EPIC TRAINING TOOLSwww.fundamentalfitness.co.ukBOX SMART FOR ALL YOUR WORKOUT APPAREL NEEDS ENTER PROMO CODE "CCC15" TO SAVE 15% OFF YOUR ORDERwww.weboxsmart.comLONDON CRYO!!!! RECOVER LIKE A ELITE G! BOOK AND USE CODE CCC25 TO SAVE 25% ON WHOLE BODY CRYOTHERAPYhttps://www.londoncryo.com/======== SUPPORT C&CC  ===================PATREON.COM/fightinworda £5 a month helps us keep this fiat 500 moving with extra content, early release eps and other magical treats.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/fightinwords)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/cofcomcuties)

The booz talk about fake friends, and a lot fo times they themselves have been fake friends. Extra juicy drama dumping babySupport the show (https://buckybooze.square.site/product/%2Fdonate/4)

#182 Rude Dogs & New Jobs by The Prattlefield

Let's continue to discuss mental health, financial literacy and relationships with Rude University Podcast Host Jon Smith. IG@rudeuniversity Music by: Nina Simone

Boss Reggae Recipe with Sakis Rude AkA Dj Ma.T Show 15 On bootboyradio.net Please Like Comment Follow Download & Share

Jacob Rude, Host of Locked on Hoosiers, joins the show! mEvery now and then we are able to turn Preview Thursday into Crossover Thursday. This happens to be one of those days. Jacob Rude of Locked on Hoosiers joins the show to preview this weekends game. The Indiana Hoosiers have a few bright spots, as well as some gaping holes. Jacob and Jay spend time diving into the Buckeyes and Hoosiers who will meet under the lights Saturday night, in Bloomington, IN. Follow & subscribe to The Locked on Buckeyes Podcast: https://linktr.ee/LockedOnBuckeyes #LockedOnBuckeyes #OhioStateBuckeyes #OhioStateFootball Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! SweatBlock Get it today for 20% off at SweatBlock.com with promo code LockedOn, or at Amazon and CVS. Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline AG There is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Rock Auto Amazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. PrizePicks Don't hesitate, check out PrizePicks.com and use promo code: “LOCKEDON” or go to your app store and download the app today. PrizePicks is daily fantasy made easy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10 - 19 - 21 PT1 WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO RUDE by Maine's Coast 93.1

10 - 19 - 21 PT2 WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO RUDE (CALLS) by Maine's Coast 93.1

In this episode, we recap the week, including news of Kyrie Irving's decision to remain unvaccinated, leading to him not being able to play this season, as well as why is everyone so rude lately.

Marcus of the Rude Horror Podcast is here to talk about his roots in horror and the newest film in the V/H/S franchise, V/H/S/94, streaming now exclusively on Shudder. Check out the Rude Horror Podcast at www.ThePFPN.com

Elizabeth Barrett Browning - Sonnets Of The Portuguese - Plus A Great Love Story!   Hi, I'm Christy Shriver, and we're here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us.    And I'm Garry Shriver, and this is the How to Love Lit Podcast.  This is our second week in a two part series discussing one of English Language literature's most romantic couples- the poets Robert and Elizabeth Barrett Browning.  Last week, we introduced Robert Browning and his notable dramatic monologue My Last Duchess which gives voice to a twisted psychopath.  We talked a little bit about Robert Browning's life, but not too much.  This week we'll return to his story as well as introduce his remarkable wife and her poetry, Elizabeth Barrett Browning.  Christy, am I correct when I say that during their lifetimes, she was famous and he was the Mr. Elizabeth Barrett Browning, so to speak?  Also, am I also correct that the man who wrote about the most twisted love relationship in British poetry also arguably had one of the most famous personal love stories!      You are correct on both accounts- although, in his defense, in regard to the second fiddle Robert played to Elizabeth during her life, history has elevated him over the years.      And been less kind to her, am I right about that?      For a while-you're right- the world turned on  Elizabeth, or EBB, as she signed her things.      Wait= stop there- EBB for Elizabeth Barrett Browning?  She went by that?      Well, she had a family nickname BA, but in her professional life-Yes- she signed everything EBB but there is a story.  When she was single she was Elizabeth Barrett Barrett- so, she started that before she got married.  When she got married, she kept up the EBB- it avoided all the normal name confusion women deal with when they marry later in life and have the hassle of changing identities.  In her case, sticking with thethe initials  just made it easy.    That worked out.      I agree- Anyway- back to your point that history was RUDE to her.  There was a period of about 100 years where people really criticized put her down.  Virginia Wolfe, specifically, wrote what to me is a cruel essay about EBB's most accomplished piece of poetry, a long epic novel in poem form called Aurora Leigh.  Wolfe is very condescending for many reasons, but from my perspective, Wolfe just didn't like poetry very much, and Aurora leigh is an epic poem.   So, EBB, for about a 100 years drifted along on the coat tails of her husband, ironically, whose reputation gained ground over that same period of time.  It was this giant reversal after death.      Huh- I guess it's a good thing they were both gone- that could have brought some marital complications!      So true, but maybe they would have laughed.  When they were alive, Robert Browning once said that the only way he could get a publisher to look at his work was if he promised he'd get Elizabeth to print something with them.   Today, though, over two hundred years later, we can all be relieved to know, history has decided to let them rest together in peace. They are both viewed in high regard in their own rights.  The Wolfe crowd has settled down, and we can see EBB with a more balanced perspective, especially her work Aurora Leigh- something notable but more than we can really handle in one episode-  I did want to mention because it was EBB's masterpiece- and something that is quite original- if you like her stuff or if you like epic poetry, you should check it out.  No one has really done an epic poem about a female hero like her either before or since, at least that I know anything about. When it came out It was extremely popular, as well as quite scandalous. It's a plot driven story, and Marian Erle, a heroine in the stories, gets raped, has a child, refuses to hide the fact that it was a product of rape and does not take a proposal in marriage that would redeem her reputation as a fallen woman, so to speak.  It has been said that women read it secretly under their sheets so as not to be discovered, and EBB loved that.      Let me just tell you, that might scandalize readers even todayOh my, I'd say that's a very different hero than Odysseus or Gilgamesh, and I can see why Aurora Leigh was so popular so quickly not just in Britain but in America- in fact,. I read it hadsomewhere that they printed over 20 editions before the end of the 19th century.  But, let's back up and get a little of the back story on this scandalous Victorian celebrity.      Okay- boring stuff first.  EBB was born on March 6, 1806, the eldest of TWELVE children to very prominent people.  Her father's family, the Barrett's owned thousands of acres of sugar plantation in Jamaica plus all the slaves that went with that.  The Barrett's had gobs of money.  Her early years were happy, and for a while she lived in a fairy land.  Her father built this incredibly lavish estate, and she had free reign to roam at will, and that's exactly what she did.  In one sense, her family was progressive.  They encouraged and even supported her studying, and she did and loved it.  She had an excellent private tutor and she worked hard- even though at the time for a woman there wasn't much point in it.  She received a very good classical education becoming proficient in both Greek and Latin.  She read all of the time and anything she could get her hands on- which was a lot.  She also got into poetry writing pretty early on. She wrote for everyone and all the time.  Her father called her the Poet Laureate of Hope End (that was the name of their estate).  He even sponsored the publication of her first epic poem she was only 13.      Can you imagine a proud father publishing his teenage daughter's epic poem- that's definitely a rich kid thing to do.    Well, it certainly was and an indication that her life was all just dreamy…until it wasn't.  First, The Barrett's, as in the extended family, had some sort of squabble about the sugar plantation money and somehow, I'm not sure how, Elizabeth's dad, lost a big chunk of it.  They lost the big fancy estate and had to move into some sort of temporary housing.     Then, and this is even worse although, it seems what I'm about to describe happened to a lot of women during this time period, at age 15, she started getting really sick with no commensurate explanation.  To this day, her illness is undiagnosed, but she had all kinds of symptoms that left her weak to the point of literally being physically disabled.      What did they say it was at the time?  And as historians have looked back through the record is there an idea today about what made her sick?    Two good questions.  Well, of course, her family tried everything, including moving to live by the seaside- which we've seen in a lot of British literature- that came up even in Emma.  But in her case her health never really improved. By the time she was 25, her family was living in London,but that place wasn't really known at the time for its fresh air- think the chimney sweeper or Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.  What happened to poor Elizabeth is that she ended up spending all of her time confined in a bedroom in that famous address associated with her today- 50 Wimpole Street.       Well, I'm not sure about 50 Wimpole street, but isn't 57 Wimpole street the famous home of Paul McCartney- the place where he and John Lennon wrote “I want to Hold your Hand” and then later “Yesterday”.      Yes- that's a little bit after EBB's time there, though.  HA.  But actually, they did make a fairly famous movie called The Barretts at Wimpole Street about Elizabeth Barrett Browning.  So, there's that too.    Anyway, back to EBB's health-  Victorian London, in general,  was dirty and smoggy, and so Elizabeth ended up basically being locked up in her room theoretically for her own good.  There is a school of thought that suggests that Some of her problems were connected to an issue with her spine from an injury she got from falling off a horse.  We also know for a fact she  had a lot of trouble with her lungs.  I think the most trustworthy sources say she probably had spinal tuberculosis. Honestly, I really don't really know what was wrong with her except to say that by the time she was twenty-five, it seems she was pretty much disabled.  And, if that wasn't enough, she has another issue- again fairly common for the time period.   Her doctors- proscribed to her meds- and you can probably guess where I'm going with this- that were addictive- and like so many back then as well as today- she became an opium addict, of course, all under her doctor's care.  This seems a little horrifying to me, partly because we just finished watching the Netflix series The Pharmacist which was an expose on the opium problem in the United States connected to Oxycotin and the ensuing 400,000 overdoses directedly related to that drug.  But Garry, clearly, opium addiction is not a 21st century phenomenon, we talked about it a little bit with Frankenstein because it surfaced a little in that book, and even though this is a little tangential, it's interesting to me, so tell us about what opium addiction looked like in the 19th century and why would a little doted on homeschool girl wind up addicted to it?     Sure, wellFirst let's establish what it was she was taking.  It was a common drug called laudanum is what Elizabeth Barrett Browning was addicted to..  She wasn't popping pills or shooting up. anything.   Laudanum was an alcoholic herbal preparation thatand was 10% opium.  It was prescribed pretty much for everything: it was used as a pain reliever, a cough suppressant, it was used to control depression, heart palpitations.  It was given as a sleeping pill, menstrual cramps were treated with laudanum.  Just likeEven worse than oxycotin in the early days of the opioid epidemic today, itlaudanum was an entirely uncontrolled substance. Almost no one took the side effects of the drug seriously- and there were a lot of them- But another point to understand, and again this is just like opioids today- there was that associated euphoria people experienced from taking the drug that encouraged it's people to use it.  Why not, right?  It's not hurting anything, and it makes me feel good.       .  However, as we all know, thatdrug euphoria comes at a cost and the cost was depression, the slurred speech, the restlessness, poor concentration, and of course, theif you ever wanted to get off, terrible withdrawal symptoms.  Here's one crazy fun fact that might blow your mind- Itlaudanum was even spoon fed to infants, if you can believe that.      No way!    But before we judge too quickly with the arrogance of the present, we have to remember, that it wasn't until 1899 that aspirin was invented.  These were days when there were no antibiotics,  no mild tranquiliers;  not much of anything and people needed help- not just pain relief, but with all kinds of things, and this is what they had.      Do you think Barrett's prolonged disabilities could be connected with her drug use?    I'm sure it's possible, but I really don't know.  Laudanum has no curative properties. After they got married, Robert Browning did help her reduce her drug use significantly,  and in fact, she reduced her dosage to where she was finally able to get pregnant after two miscarriages related to laudanum.  After marrying him, her entire health condition improved actually.  She even got to where she could walk again, but I'm not sure what all the factors were that contributed to her general improved health.  She was definitely in a better climate and presumably happy.   I do want to be clear, there was no stigma at that time in using laudanum, so we don't need to see her as dark or even unconventional because she was a laudanum user.  Lots and lots of people used it for all kinds of things and lots were addicted- including names we recognize like Charles Dickens.      Okay-moving on to the love story- so Elizabeth was pretty much locked up in her room, disabled but otherwise living a fairly engaging intellectual life.  She was writing poetry, writing letters and basically building a literary career out of that bedroom, even in her disabled state.  In 1838, she published a book of poetry called The Seraphim and Other Poems and that one was met with a lot of critical success- oh and let me note- Elizabeth Barrett Browning published her work under her own name!!!  That wasn't what a lot of women writers were doing.  But, because her work was well received and NOT anonymous, this led to her corresponding via the mail and making friends with important literary figures of her day- some we've even heard of today- famous people like William Wordsworth and Edgar Allan Poe.  In 1844, she published another book of poetry, and it met even more success- and it was the publication of this book that changed her personal life completely.  In one of the poems in this collection,  the poem's name, btw, was  “Lady Geraldine's Courtship”, If you're interested, but in this poem she references the poetry of another  fairly obscure British poet,  a man by the name of Robert Browning.  Well, this obscure poet, Robert, was highly flattered to be noticed by someone who was now quite famous, and wrote her a letter thanking her for the shout out.  However, this was not your run of the mill thank you note.  In his thank you letter he very forwardly and now famously said this, “I love your verses with all my heart, Miss Barrett”…”, I do, as I say, love these books with all my heart- and I love you too.”      Ha!  That is forward.  Robert Browning was very much a very bold suitor- no doubt.  He pursued Elizabeth and all throughvia the mail. I was amazed to read there are over 573 letters between these two, and these letters pretty much document the story of two people falling in love.  Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan's email drama has nothing on these two!!  They wrote each other every day and seemingly pretty much about everything  in the world.  These were not check in texts.  These were not Joey Tribiani lines like “what's up!”- they were full on epistles.     So true, and these letters have been popular reading material ever since- for those of us who want to take stalking to the next level and stalk the love lives of the dead.  You really get an intimate look at two people falling in love.  Elizabeth said they were “talking upon paper”.   When you read the letters, you literally feel like you are injecting yourself into their private world.      Mostly because you are.      I guess that's true, but it is sweet.  Here's a clip for you to see what I mean.  “You've come to me as a dream comes, as the best of dreams comes.”  That's Elizabeth to Robert. And Robert Browning responds in the same sorts of ways, “I have loved you all my Life unawares- that is the idea of you.”         It's a very special back and forth that has been preserved, and they were clearly falling in love now before the eyes of the world and posterity- but we also see that Elizabeth was not totally sure marriage was the path for her.       No, she had a couple of serious hesitations.  Not the least of these was her father.  He absolutely did not believe in allowing his children to get married- especially Elizabeth, and by that I mean not ever.  They were a close family, and that put her in a terrible position.  To marry Robert would be to cut off her father.  Her relationship with her father otherwise was good- if you take out the tyrannical controlling thing- I know that kind of fails the say out loud test.       And of course we see in the letters that Robert, obviously was totally against this kind control over her.        That was one big problem, but she was also concerned about her disability and her age.  She was six years older.  Would this really work? By the time, they got married she was 40- today 40 is the new 20, but she didn't feel that way.   She felt past her prime.  These are some of the insecurities, we will see her write about in her love sonnets.  But, at the end of the day, Robert did love her.  He wanted the relationship to work.  And despite her father's objections, he visited her home 91 times unrelenting in wanting a relationship with Elizabeth.  Garry, do you have a theory as to what Mr. Barrett had against Robert or marriage in general?    Well, for one thing, he thought Robert might be trying to use Elizabeth's fame for his own career- and that would be understandable, I guess, although for a 40 year old, today that seems her problem not his.  But the bigger problem was sex in general.  From everything I've read he was a good father and loved his daughter.  Elizabeth, who they calledhis Ba- in many ways she his pride and joy.  He struggled with his daughter having her own sexual identity- he had idealized her.  It seems that as he got older, the sex piece was just more than he could handle.  This sort of thing happens even today.    Well, the locking the daughter up in the room plan failed.      I will say those plans usually do.    Robert and Elizabeth were in love, and on September 12 1846, with the help of her maid, Elizabeth sneaks out of the house and marries Robert.  One oddity is that after they get married, she had to sneak back into her father's house and live there secretly married for another week before they could work out their train tickets to Italy.  But they did ran away together and eventually settled in Florence and where they lived for the rest of Elizabeth's life.     One unfortunate fall out is that her father never got over the elopement.  He disowned her; cut her off financially and never spoke to her again.  He would die never to see his daughter again.  That's sad.     I suspect she knew that was a possibility, and the reason for her hesitation.  I'm also sure that really hurt, but she didn't seem to regret her decision.  Italy was her choice.  She'd loved it from her classical studies.  The doctors insisted it would significantly improve her health- which it did.   She also wanted Robert and a life with Robert, so Italy was the plan.  After three miscarriages, they had a son, she began walking again; she got involved with European politics, supported the the Unification of Italy, took stands on women's rights issues.  She was fully engaged in a life there.  In 1850, she would publish another collection of poetry- this one contained what she is most famous for- her “Sonnets from the Portuguese”.  Selections from this work is what we're going to read.  These were poems she had written to Robert during those days when she was living locked up in that room on Wimpole street.  She wrote 44 love sonnets to Robert,  but she didn't give them to Robert until after they were married.      What's the connection with the Portuguese?      Well, when they were dating, Elizabeth wrote a poem about a Portuguese girl named Catarina who was beloved.  Robert loved it and always connected Elizabeth to this fictional girl Catarina from the poem.  When Elizabeth published these love sonnets it was kind of an inside joke- the speaker is the Portuguese (her) and the poems are all love poems to her husband.  Sonnets from the Portuguese.    Also, you may remember from Robert's life- he had kind of a bad experience with writing personal confessional poems, so when it came to publishing truly personal poems, he wanted her to create some distance between the speaker of the poem.  So, they basically pretended she translated the sonnets. I like the idea- although, I will say, it's not super-well disguised.      So, why are these love sonnets so popular?    For one, there's just the idea that they are so so sweet.  And since their love life is so well documented with their letters, the personal story makes the sentiments in the sonnets charming.   Elizabeth was 39 years old.  She considers herself past her prime when they met.  She was disabled.  She expresses what to me seems like a disbelief someone she found to be as amazing as this man she admired really truly loved her.  On his part, it's kind of a female fantasy- it's sweet- against a lot of big obstacles,he made her believe he loved her because he did.  He really did.  He was equally enamoured with her.  He admired her.  He wondered how could a woman as brilliant as this woman love me?     And there we have something special- a mutual admiration- it is this mutual admiration that led to a real intellectual exchange.  In these letters we watch this intellectual exchange develop into a reciprocity of respect and from this respect we see trust and then intimacy. All of this, of course, is exactly the kind of thing Ibsen advocates for in A Doll's House.  The Browning's relationship is the exact opposite of the Helmer marriage.  The BrownsingsThe Brownings started  as intellectual equals but then emotionally connect.  After many months of back and forth, after many doubts, we finally land on those famous lines most of us recognize from grocery store valentine cards that young boys glue boxes of chocolates or put in the arms of teddy bears. “How do I love thee, let me count the ways?”      I really like Elizabeth; but I also like Robert.  He loved her for who she was.  He was bold; he took risks.  This is something young men aren't often encouraged to do. For whatever reason, Robert demonstrated leadership, and Elizabeth absolutely reciprocated this strength back to him.  Sonnets from the Portuguese take us on her journey. And because we know the true story of their real-life romance- the sonnets just seem sweet, romantic and precious.    You seem smitten, Christy, should I be concerned?  Or should I write sonnets?    Oh, you should definitely write sonnets, But let me say, there is more to appreciate about these love sonnets than just the love confession.  EBB was a rhetorician- and you know I love rhetoric- persuasion.  These poems don't just express emotion.  They are making an articulate argument- she's making a statement one I find interesting and relevant. Because Elizabeth was a product of the Victorian era, she had a very specific understanding of the view of the ideal woman of her day.  However, she was an intellectual, her father had done her the disservice of introducing her to Greek and Latin philosophy.  She was enamored with the female poet Sapphos- so as she sat in the confining room on Wimpole street, receiving letters from Robert- she found herself thinking- what does something like romantic love mean for someone like me?  I don't need a man for money?  I don't need a man for a career?  I don't even need a man for love- my father loves me.  What is romance?  What is love?  What is a relationship between a man and a roman?  She sat around her room a thought about those sort of things and she draws conclusions.     For one thing, she  defines female love in a different way- it doesn't have to be the same thing as masculine love- but it also doesn't have to be this frail Victorian helpless type she found typical of the age- she defines feminine love in a stronger way.  For EBB love comes from confidence and fills the lover with confidence. In the beginning we see a woman who was confident in her intelligence; confident in her work, confidenr in her family,  but not necessarily confident in any romantic sense.  And how many of us can relate to that?  This was exactly me as a high school and college student- if I'm being honest.       One thing that stands out to me is this idea the frail female.  This WAS the ideal female for a lot of men at this time period.  Of course, most men, even today, want to be strong for a significant lover or the love of women in general,  but this dramatic idea of the sickly and frail woman is very typical of the Victorian period.   I can see that a woman expressing powerful confidence was not something people expected from a female in a romantic relationship and certainly not in a female romantic figure.      Exactly, and EBB, who ironically was sickly, didn't want that to be the reason someone loved her.  She ran from that.  In fact, she even ran from being appreciated for being a woman in general.  When Wordsworth died, England needed a new poet Laureate, Elizabeth's name was recommended to succeed him.  The argument was that there should be a woman poet Laureate for the nation because there was a woman monarch.  Barrett took issue with this- she made the statement that she was not a poetess but a poet and she thought poetry should be judged by its merits not by the sex of its writers.    HA!!  19th century cross-sectional politics.    I know, right, but here's why I bring it up.  When it came to her poetry, she didn't want to be looked at as a woman-as in a hyphenated sub-group.  She saw this kind of thing as patronizing like how I heard boys talk about girl athletes when I was a kid- phrases like, “she's pretty fast- for a girl.” That was not Elizabeth's thing.  It's why didn't use a pseudonym like George Eliot or Emily Bronte who went by Ellis Bell.  Hiding your gender professionally  was totally acceptable.  But it seems to me that for EBB she wanted to say- I am a woman- know that-, I have the feelings and desires define me as a woman.   I will write about women and what women care about.  I will show how I as a woman see the world and I will stand confidently this.  This is an important thing to do.   Don't patronize me by qualifying me by gender; I define my femininity for myself.    But all of that only applies to outside relationships. n    So, how does it apply to personal relationships?     It seems crazy, and unljikely but somehow, she and Robert were on the same page in their understanding of how men and women should relate.  He was not intimated by her professional success at all, and he really should have been.  She was very well known; he was not.  Their personal relationship was all theirs.  She was a woman who wanted to be desired, to be cherished, to be loved and adored- and he wanted very much to do all those things for her.  That is a very traditional relationship, and maybe Victorian in nature- but I have to be honest, I love all those very same things.     As we read these poems, I see a powerful writer but also a dreamy love-struck woman.   “As the prisoners think of liberty, as the dying think of heaven so I think of you.”  That is another quote from one of her letters to Robert- but in this line we see a brave but smitten female voice.      So, you're saying, she's not writing as someone trying to be coy or silently waiting to be seduced.       Exactly, she does want to be seduced; she's just dropping the silent part.  Sonnets from the Portuguese are in sequence; they take us through her evolution of thinking and her emotions on this experience of falling in love.  In sonnets 1-2 we see the woman speaker as object of man- she is not the creator of her own poetic voice yet.  And this of course is what we think of when we think of traditional love poetry- man loves woman- man speaks- woman stays silent- just think about the convention of the sonnets in particular- especially Petrarchan sonnets.  That's what they were all about.    Now, we don't need to rehash our entire episode on Petrarch- although he's worth listening to if you haven't listened to that podcast- or at least not in a while- but, by way of reminder, Petrarch wrote sonnets to a woman named Laura who did not return his affection- the entire genre of the Petrarchan sonnet is about objectifying women.    In fact, I'm pretty sure Petrarch never really even refers to Laura as a whole human being- it's always her hair, or her breasts, her voice, her smile- even the name Laura- some people think just stands in for the word Laurel.      You're right.  Laura is distant- impersonal- an ideal.  The sonnets are mostly about Petrarch- the man- not the woman at all. Elizabeth is to not just going to reverse this- she's going to redefine the sonnet genre entirely.  She's going to say, I'm the object- yes- I want to be the object, but I'm also the speaker- I am not silent.  I am a recipient of a love that empowers, but I am also the giver of a love that emboldens.  The poetic relationship in these sonnets is reciprocal- His love calls for her poems- SHE writes them.  In a sense, he is a magic prince who kisses and restores her- she sees him like this- but she is not weak, she is not powerless- even in her physical fraility- even in her age- and she did see herself as kind of past her prime maybe physically but definitely not creatively or professionally.    SHE is the creator of the art here- she is creating this new idea that I can be a the muse for love and the creator of its art.      I also want to point out that their relationship, although it is intellectual,  it is not platonic.  It's very romantic and there is a lot that is physical here… and some of this is erotic to be honest… He was bold towards her, but now she reciprocates with boldness of her own….    Well, that could get interesting.      I think so, but we'll let you read those on your own, though.     Okay- so, we're going to read three of her sonnets?     Yes, I want to.   I think it's nice to try to see a little bit of the progression we've been talking about- how they kind of show her evolving into her own understanding of her relationship.  We won't overdo the analysis thing because there are three of them- and we'll just try to enjoy them more holistically.  We'll start with 14, move to 22 and then finish with the famous 43- the one most people know.        Sonnet 14    If thou must love me, let it be for nought  Except for love's sake only. Do not say,  "I love her for her smile—her look—her way  Of speaking gently,—for a trick of thought  That falls in well with mine, and certes brought  A sense of pleasant ease on such a day"—  For these things in themselves, Belovèd, may  Be changed, or change for thee—and love, so wrought,  May be unwrought so. Neither love me for  Thine own dear pity's wiping my cheeks dry:  A creature might forget to weep, who bore  Thy comfort long, and lose thy love thereby!  But love me for love's sake, that evermore  Thou mayst love on, through love's eternity.      It seems very straightforward and easy to understand for me.      It really is.  Just to give a little introduction to the form, notice that it is in iambic pentamenter, that means there are five strong beats in every line- just like in most every other sonnet in the world. Also, just like Petrarch, there is a rhyme scheme abba abba cdcdcd. But, that's as far as she will follow Petrarch's model.  In fact, she's almost responding to Petrarch- don't love me like Petrarch loved Laura.   He loved her for stuff- for her smile, her look, her way… all that garbage… don't even love me for any cute thing I say, or even what you do for me and how it makes you feel to do stuff for me, like wipe tears from my cheeks- nonsense like that…I'm just not interested.  If we're going to do this love thing, we need to get past all that and figure out something much deeper …the smile and tears stuff isn't enough.    “Love me for love's sake, that evermore though mayst love, on, through love's eternity.”      Well, it's a very ornate style- and it's understandable in light of what we know about her own personal underconfidences that she would talk like this, but like I said before, I really enjoy seeing a mature woman experience a deep and intimate love- she's allowing herself to enjoy all the emotions of love like most people associate with you, but it's not immature love, it establishs reciprocal terms.       Another point I want to make before we read the next one, and this may be one of the reasons her poetry was so ill-received in the 20th century, EBB has no trouble exploring her doubts and underconfidences in her romantic relationship.  And we see that a little here, although the earlier ones had more of it.  She seems slightly concerned that if the love relies too much on the physical, it might be a bust.  Feminist critics of the 20th century didn't like that.  They said things like, she's lowering herself in the relationship when she should be promoting herself.  And there is a real sense that that is true- she clearly submits to Robert in these sonnets- on purpose- but here is the difference that I think has since redeemed her- it's a reciprocated submission- it's not something that Robert himself was not doing.  Today, as we read her poems, we aren't really offended by her vulnerability.  In fact, the honesty has been reinterpreted as confidence.  It takes quite a bit of sincerity and confidence to be openly underconfident and dependent- as paradoxical as it sounds.      Well, of course, I agree with that.  And I have to think, from a psychological point of view, that being in love and writing about how it makes you feel at age 39 as opposed to 19 is probably why she can be vulnerable about her self-doubts without coming across as weak and pitiful.  She's already been through the adolescent stuff as a totally separate issue, so as she tries to understand what about love is overwhelming her and making her feel so differently- she can separate what is unique about this particular love relationship from regular developmental issues of underconfidence or even the loving relationships she's already experienced from her family- which we have to remember- she'd been adored her entire life.      Let's read 22- we can see the tone has shifted.  There's been a progression from love me for love's sake to now WHEN we stand erect…the posture is very different.  Let's read it.        When our two souls stand up erect and strong,    Face to face, silent, drawing nigh and nigher,    Until the lengthening wings break into fire    At either curvèd point,—what bitter wrong    Can the earth do to us, that we should not long   Be here contented? Think. In mounting higher,    The angels would press on us and aspire    To drop some golden orb of perfect song    Into our deep, dear silence. Let us stay    Rather on earth, Belovèd,—where the unfit   Contrarious moods of men recoil away    And isolate pure spirits, and permit    A place to stand and love in for a day,    With darkness and the death-hour rounding it.    Again, we have the same iambic pentameter- five strong beats in every line.  We have the rhyme scheme Abba Abba cdcdcd.  But what we notice more than the rhyme change is the tone change.  Traditionally in the Petrarchean sonnet the first eight lines set up a question and then the second six lines answer it.  There's a turn.  In this one, the first eight lines or the octave are going to define the status of their love as it is now.  The last six will argue- quite untraditionally that they need to stop time and just stay in the present moment.      HA!!  Wouldn't that be nice to be able to do.      Yeah- but I guess it's a nice sentiment even if a bit unrealistic.  I guess that's why she can enjoy it.  I want to point out how much religious imagery she throws in here.  It's not two bodies- it's two souls- they are not constrained by physical restraints anymore- something she was all too familiar with.   I also want to point at how equal the two people in this poem are.  They are two souls- erect and strong- face to face- with wings breaking into fire- that's pretty cool imagery.- kind of like some mythical phoenix full of power and energy.    And yet, as cool as they would be, I would prefer to just stay here in this moment with you.  It's sweet.  Okay, ready for the last one…the famous sonnet 43, the second to last poem in the series- in many ways the concluding one.  In this one, she is going to summarize some of the arguments she's made throughout the other sonnets.  She is going to catalogue the eight ways of loving that she's been making for the last 42.  Let's read it and then we'll see how this famous love story ends.      How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.  I love thee to the depth and breadth and height  My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight  For the ends of being and ideal grace.  I love thee to the level of every day's  Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.  I love thee freely, as men strive for right.  I love thee purely, as they turn from praise.  I love thee with the passion put to use  In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.  I love thee with a love I seemed to lose  With my lost saints. I love thee with the breath,  Smiles, tears, of all my life; and, if God choose,  I shall but love thee better after death.    By the end of EBB's sonnet sequence she has reshaped her understanding of love.  She has allowed herself to express her initial insecurities, walked us through her doubts and developed before us a full and complete discovery of what her romantic relationship means.   Again, she is using the same iambic pentameter- and the same abba abba cdcdcd.  It's simple.  It's obvious.  It's confident. Where in the first one we read, there was a lot of insecurity, the second a very confident equality, here she is asserting her own leadership.  I think she's ready to elope!!!    HA!!  I guess she is.  Again there is a lot of religious and Christian imagery- it even alludes to the Bible.  The languages borrows from St. Paul in his letter to the Ephesians where he describes Christ's love for humanity.      Exactly, she's expressing a completeness here- in every line she's showing us this cycle.  There's spiritual love, every day love, free and society love, virtuous love, passionate love, permanent love and finally eternal love- after death.    Well, how does their story end.      It's nice.  First of all, I forgot to tell you, they nicknamed their son, Pen.  That's cute.  After the elopement and the move to Italy, they had 15 years before Elizabeth's health finally gave out.  The story goes that on the day Elizabeth died, Robert lifted her up towards him and she kissed him repeatedly, even kissing the air after he put her back on her bed.  Robert was heard saying, “Beautiful, beautiful.”  After she breathed her last breath, he looked at her and said, “How she looks now, how perfectly beautiful.”  This was on June 29, 1861.  That autumn, Robert and Pen left Florence never to return.  He prepared and published her last works that he titled, “Last Poems”.  He was unselfishly pleased that even after her death, sales of her work exceeded his.      Browning stayed in England, gradually establishing a place in London society.  He did propose again to a woman named Louisa, Lady Ashburton, a rich and attractive widow in 1869.  However, he blew the proposal so badly that she turned him down.     You know bad proposals are some of the things America's Funniest Home Videos really taught us all to enjoy.  But how was his so bad.  I mean, he was a poet.  You'd think he could turn a line.       Oh, he turned a line for sure, but this stands out- even in a long list of bad proposals.   He literally told her that his heart lay buried with his wife in Florence and he really just wanted to marry her for the advantages it would give Pen.      Well, at least he was honest.      Yes, he was that- just honest and single.  He continued to write and to publish all the way until his death.  And he died in the same country as his wife.  He and his sister were vacationing in Venice, Italy.  He had bought a house there for Pen.  While in Venice, he caught a cold and died on December 12, 1878 there.  Today, EBB is buried in Florence, but ironically they did not ship Robert Brownings down to Florence to be buried with her.  He actually got a very prestigious placement.  Today Robert Browning's body rests in Westminster Abbey.    Wow, that's impressive and an interesting ending to this very famous romance.    Unless  it doesn't end the romance…according to Elizabeth, she was going to love him better after death.    Ha!!!  Well, there you go, perhaps she's set those wings on fire!!    Oh my, we've read way too many sonnets this week.  Next week, we are changing gears entirely.  If you're listening to this in real time, it's October 2021, Halloween season and we are starting The Haunting of Hill House by the American Shirley Jackson.  It's not my favorite sub-genre, but here we go…into the scary stuff!!!    Thanks for listening, please know we appreciate you spending time with us each week.  We hope you are enjoying exploring the classics with us.  If so, please help us by tweeting an episode, posting a link on Facebook or LinkedIn or simply texting an episode to a friend.  And if you're a teacher, Visit our website for teaching support.    Peace Out.     

India ranked 101 out of 116 countries in the Global Hunger Index rankings, behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Shekhar Gupta looks into this alarming report that raises questions on our nutrition, 75 years after Independence. Does this report mean India is starving and how is hunger defined? Episode 858 of CutTheClutter Brought to you by  @Kia India  ----more----Read Ivica Petrikova and Arvind Kumar's article here: https://theprint.in/opinion/hunger-index-latest-reminder-india-should-fight-malnutrition-with-more-animal-sourced-food/750939/----more----Watch Episode 295 of Cut The Clutter here: https://youtu.be/Feie8HukGiA

Taken from our YouTube series, these are the full sessions of Lewis and Simon sitting down and looking through this week's pick of weird news!  Check out the video series on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEFbHhDt8zk&list=PL3XZNMGhpynMFyKdRO8QJPsKnN59fmDsd&index=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

more show notes coming Jenna walks Heidi through her passion of healthy living with her brand Raised on Plants. She describes training for her birth by first prepping for fertility and pregnancy with her nutrition. At 42 weeks she was booted from the birth center and sent to the hospital for an induction. But, she was able to labor on her own, unmedicated and finish the job without interventions which is exactly what she had desired. instagram.com/raisedonplants

A recent survey of more than 13,000 workers found that 58% of restaurant and hotel employees plan to quit their jobs by the end of this year. And more than a third of them are citing difficult customers as the driving force. What are the knock-on economic effects? Plus, LinkedIn's censorship of some Chinese profiles. And, charities take a page from government cash assistance. Guests: Axios' Hope King, Bryan Walsh and Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian. Credits: Axios Today is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Dan Bobkoff, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Sabeena Singhani, Alex Sugiura, Lydia McMullen-Laird, and David Toledo. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chad and Lauryn are joined by Austyn as they discuss RHOBH, RHOSLC and RHOP. Play along with the new game "Brooks, Brooks, or Brooks?"

Ryan explains how to balance the discipline and poor bahavior, on today's Daily Stoic Podcast.Sign up for the Daily Stoic email: http://DailyStoic.com/emailFollow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jay is joined by ESPN mainstay Sage Steele, who dives into her upbringing as a military girl and how she got her start at the worldwide leader. She also jokes with Jay about hating Notre Dame because her first gig was in South Bend, and how nervous she was her first time on the air on television. Plus Sage recalls how difficult some men made it for her to make her way in sports, with rude comments and sexual undertones that would be shouted down in today's culture but instead she let it roll off her. Jay and Sage also align on their struggles with raising kids in a digital world, and how their kids individually torture them to test their limits. And did Sage really PASS on her first gig at ESPN? We also get into her Twitter attacks from a few years back when she tweeted her political stance and how scary that was for her family. Sage also admits that she just got her COVID vaccine because ESPN mandated it or she'd lose her job. Follow Jay on Twitter (@JayHasTweets) and Instagram (@IfJayHadInstagram) for more on the show and Jay's latest takes.