Podcasts about beast beautiful

Today’s guest is the brilliant Sarah Wilson. Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times bestselling author, social philosopher, international keynote speaker, minimalist and philanthropist. She edited Cosmopolitan Australia at 29, founded the global I Quit Sugar movement, hosted Masterchef Australia – and wrote the bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. We previously had Sarah on the podcast 2 years ago where we spoke about dating in your forties, how Sarah had moved to Paris with only own 2 suitcases worth of belongings! Since we last spoke, Sarah has ended her long-running podcast Wild, and started serialising her new book on system collapse. Today, we’re talking about the chaos we’re all living through — the systems collapsing around us, the tech bros running wild, and the very real sense that everything’s just... a bit cooked. We also dive into: Living in a minimalistic way and how it’s classy in some cultures Australia is a young person’s culture with botox, lashes and ‘invisible’ older women Should we also have a tax on fast fashion? How beauty ideals change based on what’s going on economically What it means to find meaning in messy times Why Sarah’s book will likely be banned in the US Why community and connection are more important than ever You can find Sarah on Substack You can find Sarah on Instagram You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Summer is here, and if you're looking for your next read, Jess has you covered! In this episode of the Big Summer Book Club, Jess shares her favourite Personal Growth books, filled with valuable life lessons that have stayed with her and helped her strive to become the best version of herself. Plus, Jess dives deep with incredible authors to explore their work, their lives, and so much more! One of these authors is Megan Dalla-Camina, whose incredible book Women Rising helps you recognise and resist the real forces of power that limit how you work and live as a woman. Our hope is this series will inspire you to rediscover the joy of summer reading—and perhaps find your own life-changing reads along the way. Know someone who'd enjoy this episode? Why not share it with them by tapping the 3 dots above ⬆︎ and passing it on LINKS: Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch AlbomFirst We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah WilsonDaring Greatly by Brene Brown Fill out our survey for the chance to win a $100 voucher here If you love what we do, why not follow the show, and rate and review on Apple or Spotify CREDITS:Host: Jessica RoweGuest: Megan Dalla-Camina Executive Producer: Nic McClureAudio Producer: Nat Marshall Digital Content Producer: Zoe Panaretos The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show acknowledges the Gadigal people, Traditional Custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders peoples here today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Really Interesting Women - the podcastEpisode 131SARAH WILSONSarah is best known for being the founder of the global I Quit Sugar movement, a digital wellness program with 13 award-winning books that sell in 52 countries – which saw millions around the world transform their health. In 2022 she sold the business and gave everything to charity.She is an experienced journalist and broadcaster. She was previously the editor of Cosmopolitan Australia at age 29; host of MasterChef Australia; was a News Corp journalist and columnist; and has hosted ABC's Compass, Ten's The Project and has been a regular panellist and news commentator on Australian, UK and US screens for two decades.Her New York Times bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful is described by bestselling author (The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck) Mark Manson as, “The best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”, and was featured as the book of the year on NBC's Today Show. It's published in 27 countries. Sarah's most recent title, This One Wild & Precious Life, won the 2021 US Gold Nautilus Prize.She has been ranked in the top 200 most influential authors in the world (two years in a row), and now resides and works most of the year in Paris where she lives and loves a minimalist life. And this all reads like a bit of a career dream. But there have been plenty of nightmares along the way. Our discussion on resilience I found fascinating as well as finding out (to Sarah - and probably all of us in reality), what really matters. All these findings of hers are the result of countless hours of research and interviews and one of the many things I took away from this is the importance of nature. The incredibly positive impact it can have if we just 'get out there.'Head to the link in my bio to have a listen to Sarah Wilson's episode.The book referred to:First, We Make the Beast Beautifulhttps://www.amazon.com.au/first-make-beast-beautiful-Anxiety-ebook/dp/B01N12WLAXHer other books and links to her Substack can be found on her website:www.sarahwilson.comVisit instagram @reallyinterestingwomen for further interviews and posts of interesting women in history. Follow the link to leave a review....and tell your friendshttps://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/really-interesting-women/id1526764849

Alain de Botton (School of Life founder; author) has written 15 books about the philosophy of living – such as The Art of Travel; Status Anxiety; Art as Therapy; and The Course of Love – but he has recently turned his focus to mental health and how philosophy can be used as a therapeutic aid. Alain argues that a mental breakdown can provide the opening a despairing soul seeks. Indeed, anxiety so often is its own fix.We sat down in WeAre8's London office for this two-way conversation about the philosophical wisdoms we personally use to have a life of meaning in the face of despair. We also talk about the writing process (and why it's a salve), the healing effects of figs and dark chocolate, how to love, plus a super fresh take on “adult boredom” (embrace your impatience, get to the point!).SHOW NOTESGet hold of The Therapeutic Journey here and the School of Life range of books hereFirst, We Make the Beast Beautiful is available in more than a dozen languages hereI also mention my Wild chat with AC Grayling on how to have a philosophy of your ownAnd my conversation with Pico Iyer as well as the episode with David WhyteWe recorded the episode at WeAre8 HQ in London – big thanks to the team for being such wonderful hosts!If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" pageFor more such conversations subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it's where I interact the most!Get your copy of my book, This One Wild and Precious LifeLet's connect on Instagram and WeAre8 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Talking points: anxiety, bipolar disorder, culture, tribalism, climate, society There aren't many out there with as wide-ranging knowledge and experience as Sarah Wilson, so I was thrilled to sit with her and dig into some of the heavier stuff. From practical tips for managing anxiety to collapsing neoliberal systems to the Dutch practice of "dropping", this interview has a bit of everything. Strongly encourage you to check this one and share, especially if you're interested in mental health or where our culture's headed. (00:00:00) - Intro and Sarah's defining moment(00:03:54) - What are “diseases of despair”?(00:07:29) - What's causing the rise of these kinds of deaths?(00:11:32) - The loss of “discerning moral discussions” in the education system(00:16:56) - Sarah's take on collapse theory and its impact on mental health(00:26:36) - How do we deal with the fracturing of dialogue and society?(00:34:54) - It's not an anxiety epidemic, it's a lack of resilience epidemic(00:44:44) - What are some practical ways to work with anxiety?(00:54:08) - Resources for people with a bipolar partner, friend, or family member. Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times and Amazon best-selling author, podcaster, social philosopher, international keynote speaker, philanthropist, and climate change advisor. She's known globally for the I Quit Sugar Movement, as well as her New York Times bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful—described by Mark Manson as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. Sarah's most recent title, This One Wild & Precious Life, won the 2021 US Gold Nautilus Prize. Connect with Sarah -Website: https://sarahwilson.com/ -Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_ -Substack: https://sarahwilson.substack.com/ -Podcast, Wild with Sarah Wilson: https://pod.link/1548626341 Pick up my book, Men's Work: A Practical Guide To Face Your Darkness, End Self-Sabotage, And Find Freedom: https://mantalks.com/mens-work-book/ Check out some free resources: How To Quit Porn | Anger Meditation | How To Lead In Your Relationship Build brotherhood with a powerful group of like-minded men from around the world. Check out The Alliance and join me today.  Enjoy the podcast? If so, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or Podchaser. It helps us get into the ears of new listeners, expand the ManTalks Community, and help others find the tools and training they're looking for. And don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts  | Spotify For more episodes, visit us at ManTalks.com | Facebook | Instagram | TwitterSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah Wilson is a New York Times bestselling author who wrote the book "I Quit Sugar", which I'm sure you've heard of, and the extraordinary book about anxiety "First We Make the Beast Beautiful". Sarah is an incredibly influential writer, a former editor of Australian Cosmopolitan magazine, a podcaster, a syndicated columnist, a TV host, and an author of many a cookbook. SPONSORS: Canstar - download the App here https://onelink.to/canstar-bty, then use the code BTY10, get a $10 gift card on registration.Tickets to upcoming Melbourne live shows available here: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/osher-gunsberg-better-than-yesterday/Got suggestions for Better Than Yesterday? I'd love you to get involved in our listener survey! https://podcastsurvey.typeform.com/osherStay up to date by joining the mailing list here: Osher Günsberg - Better Than Yesterday Podcast | LinktreeCome check out our new Instagram account, just for this podcast - https://instagram.com/ogbetterthanyesterdayAnything else? Come visit us on discord. Join the oshergünsberg Discord Server! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ceri Sanford, an ADHD Compassion Coach, opens up in this episode about her personal journey of receiving an ADHD diagnosis as an adult. She tackles common misconceptions and shares valuable insights about living with ADHD. Together, we explore strategies for achieving balance, tuning into your body, and nurturing self-awareness, particularly when dealing with ADHD. The discussion centres around cultivating self-compassion and setting meaningful boundaries for a more fulfilling life and breaking stigma and stereotypes around neurodivergent thinking.    Find more from Ceri: Follow Ceri on Instagram and TikTok Download Ceri's FREE ADHD Compassion Guide Find out about ADHD coaching with Ceri   In this episode: Mental Health Info & Resources Period Queen by Lucy Peach A Radical Guide for Women with ADHD by Sari Solden First We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah Wilson   Join the community Subscribe to our newsletter Become a self-care squad member Follow the show on instagram   Ask a question! If you have a question or topic that you would like to hear covered on the show then send it in to us by adding to the Listener's Cup!

Saturn returns is all about embracing and finding our true path, even if it means veering off the well-trodden one. It's about resilience, adaptability, and finding a sustainable way of living that truly resonates with us. So I'm thrilled to be joined by Sarah Wilson In today's episode of Saturn Returns. A former journalist, Cosmopolitan Australia's editor, and MasterChef Australia host who has truly lived a life less ordinary.  At 34, facing a life-threatening autoimmune disease, Sarah chose to quit sugar, a decision that not only managed her symptoms but also led to the creation of the global “I Quit Sugar” movement. She documented her journey and insights, encouraging others to embrace a healthier, sugar-free lifestyle.  This period of transformation led to Sarah embracing a more unconventional life, choosing a much more minimalist simple life, focused on travel, nature and discovery. Sarah officially jumped off the hedonic treadmill, moving away from her successful media empire to live in a forest army shed. Her experiences, including her battles with bipolar disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder, are candidly shared in her book "First We Make the Beast Beautiful." Here, she reimagines anxiety, turning it into a source of strength and advocating for living authentically amidst life's chaos. We discuss Sarah's latest book, "This One Wild and Precious Life," which addresses the collective feelings of anxiety and disconnection prevalent in today's world, fostering a sense of community and connection. She explores the modern challenges facing humanity, including climate change, political unrest, and the pervasive feelings of emptiness despite material abundance and how a shift to live more sustainably is not only essential, but will also lead to more happiness and fulfilment.  Join us in this episode as we explore Sarah's journey and uncover the transformative power of living a wild and precious life. This One Wild and Precious Life Order Here Sarah's substack here Wild with Sarah Wilson here A big thank you to our sponsors Sensate; take control of your well-being with Sensate and embark on a journey to tranquility today. Remember, it's not just about now, it's about building a better tomorrow. Head to getSensate.com/Saturnreturns and remember to use the code “Saturn” at checkout for an exclusive 10% discount.  --- Subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and receive more empowering insights and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  DO YOU EVER FIND YOURSELF ASKING THE FOLLOWING… Will I ever find my true calling? Why do I struggle with boundaries? How do I know If I am living authentically? Am I happy with the path my life is on? The Saturn Returns Course: A digital e-course specially created to help you build the foundations of your most authentic self. This course is designed to guide you through the key themes that often come up during our Saturn Return. It is a curation of concepts and supportive modalities, intertwined with my own personal experience. Find more information on what to expect from The Saturn Returns Course, here.

My guest today is Sarah WilsonSarah started I Quit Sugar in 2011 as a lifestyle experiment for a column she was writing. This led to an e-book, then three New York Times bestsellers and a business that saw 1.5 million people signing up to an eight-week nutrition programme. But as time went on, Sarah wasn't enjoying it anymore. She says, ‘The business got to a point where it had gone from being a joy – creating, inventing, connecting with people – to a business concern. It felt soul-destroying. It felt wrong.' And so in February 2022 she sold off the business and its assets and gave everything to charity. She now donates the money to carefully researched charity projects that target inequality, indigenous issues and the climate crisis.Sarah consumes essentials only, has never owned a handbag and doesn't own a car. Her career has been extraordinary, she became the editor of Cosmopolitan Australia at 29, hosted the most-watched TV series show in the nation's history -the first season of Masterchef Australia – and wrote the international bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. Her most recent book This One Wild and Precious Life, is also a prize winner and Sarah has been ranked in the top 200 most influential authors in the world (two years in a row).Thank you very much to Nestlé Carnation for sponsoring this weeks episode. Head to their website www.carnation.co.uk for lots of recipe inspiration and there's even a free downloadable recipe book waiting for you there too.You can find me @desertislanddishes and the website at www.desertislanddishes.coThank you for listening!Margie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My guest this week is Sarah Wilson, journalist, TV host, and author of This ONE WILD & PRECIOUS LIFE. Her earlier multi-New York Times Bestselling books are First Make the Beast Beautiful & "I Quit Sugar", which advocates for a sugar-free lifestyle & sparked a global wellness movement. Now living mostly out of a backpack she focuses on sustainable living, mental health advocacy & environmental issues in her work.We chat about anxiety, meditation, hiking, living a minimalist life, and stepping up to do what we can to save the planet, by starting where we are.You can find out more about Sarah's work on https://sarahwilson.com/ And follow her on Instagram on_sarahwilson_Buy the UK edition of This One Wild and Precious Life https://www.eye-books.com/books/this-one-wild-and-precious-life Read Sarah's Substack Newsletter "this is precious" https://sarahwilson.substack.com/ Listen to WILD with Sarah Wilson https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/wild-with-sarah-wilsonConnect with Sarah on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_/ Join Lou on LinkedinFollow her @brave_newgirl on Instagram and get her books Brave New Girl- How to be Fearless, FEAR LESS and her Internationally Bestselling book DARE TO SHARE on Amazon or Waterstones or Barnes & Noble. UK & US versions available.Lou is the founder of Brave New Girl Media, helping you  unlock your courage, find your superpower and put your story in the spotlight to help inspire others. BNGM enables you to showcase your vision and supercharge your impact in the world.  https://bravenewgirlmedia.comMusic by Melody LoopSupport the showHow to build courage and live better, with ourselves, each other and the planet Brave New Girl Media Books by Lou Hamilton: Dare to Share- bestselling guide to podcast guesting FEAR LESS- coaching guide to living more bravely Brave New Girl- How to be Fearless

In this episode of Untidy we talk to mum of two, Hannah Hardy-Jones. Hannah suffered a severe manic episode triggered by the traumatic birth of her first child, which brought on a diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder. We speak to Hannah about how this experience led her to start Kite Program – a tech platform that creates apps for specific organisations, occupational groups and mental health causes. We also talk about the impact this experience had on her family, and how she navigated the decision to have a second child. Hannah is a strong mental health advocate, and now works with clients around the world to share her story to help bring about change. Since its conception, Kite has evolved to now provide app-based support to businesses, HR professionals, the veterinary industry, individuals with eating disorders, Covid-19 programs and mums of all stages. Hannah also recently launched Contented AI, which creates bespoke AI tools for everyday businesses to leverage AI in a safe and impactful way – with a goal to reduce burnout and help businesses grow.  Check out The Kite Program online and find it in your App store. Follow Hannah on Instagram at @thekiteprogram and learn more about @contented_ai. The book Matilda recommends in the episode is ‘First We Make the Beast Beautiful' by Sarah Wilson. Untidy podcast is about honouring the person within the parent. Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram @untidypodcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and @mybigmoments. Visit My Big Moments for kids' books that make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier. Untidy podcast is co-produced and edited by Popsock Media, and hosted by rova. Untidy is proud to also be supported by My Big Moments – kids' books backed by research and Kiwi ingenuity to make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier. Where to get help or find support: Perinatal Anxiety and Depression NZ - https://pada.nz/ Nationwide charity providing training and resources for health professionals aiding families affected by anxiety and depression linked to pregnancy, childbirth, and early parenting. The Mental Health Foundation - https://www.mentalhealth.org.nz/ Free call or text 1737 any time for support from a trained counsellor.  Postpartum Support International (PSI) - https://www.postpartum.net/ An international resource for postpartum mental health Thanks for listening! If you enjoyed the show, please share it with friends so we can keep bringing you Untidy conversations!   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times and Amazon best-selling author, podcaster, international keynote speaker, philanthropist and climate change advisor. Sarah is known globally for founding the I Quit Sugar movement – a digital wellness program and 13 award-winning books that sell in 52 countries – which saw millions around the world transform their health. In 2022 Sarah sold the business and gave everything to charity. She was previously the editor of Cosmopolitan Australia at age 29; host of Masterchef Australia; a journalist and columnist; Her New York Times bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful is described by Mark Manson as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. Sarah has seen incredible success in her life and in many cases has had to wing her way through situations with a lot of bravery and courage. We talk about the complexity of mental health and how we can use our struggles as our super powers...Her why has never been financial gain and her minimalist approach to life is one I deeply admire. I hope you enjoy listening to the articulate and incredibly switched on Sarah Wilson.Check out her podcast HERE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to 'So I Quit', now in its fourth year and Season 4 as I live and breathe!! What a cracking guest to kick the new season off - Sarah Wilson. Where to start about this incredible human... Sarah is a multi-New York Times and Amazon best-selling author, podcaster, thought leader, minimalist, philanthropist and climate advisor. She is a ‘Change Maker' for WeAre8 and is heavily invested in supporting the platform.She founded the international I Quit Sugar movement and wrote the international bestsellers I Quit Sugar, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful and This One Wild & Precious Life which won the 2021 US Gold Nautilus Award. Sarah is also the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries, and she has been ranked in the top 200 most influential authors in the world.In a “previous life” Sarah was a News Corp journalist and opinion columnist, editor of Cosmopolitan Australia and host of Masterchef Australia before founding the largest wellness website in Australia.In February 2022, Sarah sold the incredibly successful business and gave all proceeds to charity. She now builds and enables charity projects that “engage humans with each other”.Sarah now dedicates all her resources to driving a global conversation on sustainability and climate change, as well as resilience, living a life of value and change leadership. We delve into all of this and more during the pod. I literally could have chatted to Sarah all day.. enjoy!! xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sarah Wilson's work gives new meaning to the word ‘holistic'. She's widely known for founding the I Quit Sugar movement, but is also an author, podcaster, keynote speaker, philanthropist and climate change advisor. And somehow - every job's connected. One of the threads linking everything Sarah does is anxiety. Whether it's nixing sugar from her diet to promote better mental health, or advocating for more walking, Sarah's constantly exploring methods for living (and thriving) with anxiety. She shares how the right philosophy turns anxiety into a superpower, and her go-to, day-to-day hacks and habits for managing her mental health. Sarah also explains why making the new way ‘more charming' is the key to affecting real change.Connect with Sarah on Twitter or LinkedIn ***My new book Time Wise is out now. You can grab a copy here. Connect with me on the socials:LinkedinTwitterInstagram  If you're looking for more tips to improve the way you work, I write a fortnightly newsletter that contains three cool things I have discovered that help me work better, which range from interesting research findings through to gadgets I am loving. You can sign up for that at http://howiwork.coVisit https://www.amantha.com/podcast for full show notes from all episodes.Get in touch at amantha@inventium.com.au CREDITSProduced by InventiumHost: Amantha ImberProduction Support from Deadset StudiosEpisode Producer: Liam RiordanSound Engineer: Martin ImberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah Wilson's work gives new meaning to the word ‘holistic'. She's widely known for founding the I Quit Sugar movement, but is also an author, podcaster, keynote speaker, philanthropist and climate change advisor. And somehow - every job's connected.  One of the threads linking everything Sarah does is anxiety. Whether it's nixing sugar from her diet to promote better mental health, or advocating for more walking, Sarah's constantly exploring methods for living (and thriving) with anxiety.  She shares how the right philosophy turns anxiety into a superpower, and her go-to, day-to-day hacks and habits for managing her mental health. Sarah also explains why making the new way ‘more charming' is the key to affecting real change. Connect with Sarah on Twitter or LinkedIn  *** My new book Time Wise is out now. You can grab a copy here.   Connect with me on the socials: Linkedin Twitter Instagram    If you're looking for more tips to improve the way you work, I write a fortnightly newsletter that contains three cool things I have discovered that help me work better, which range from interesting research findings through to gadgets I am loving. You can sign up for that at http://howiwork.co Visit https://www.amantha.com/podcast for full show notes from all episodes. Get in touch at amantha@inventium.com.au   CREDITS Produced by Inventium Host: Amantha Imber Production Support from Deadset Studios Episode Producer: Liam Riordan Sound Engineer: Martin Imber

In this replay episode, we're revisiting my conversation with Sarah Wilson from 2019 about anxiety: how to identify it, how to contend with it, how to live with it and how to navigate it.This is genuinely one of the most honest conversations I've ever had about my own anxiety, and anxiety in general, with a guest and Sarah's insights, are utterly wonderful and so very helpful for anyone who wants to understand anxiety in themselves or in others.Sarah's book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful is available now.To join the closed Facebook group for the podcast click here >> The Emma Guns Show Forum.To follow me on social media >> Twitter | Instagram.Sign up for my newsletter here >> Newsletter. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/emmagunavardhana. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

What a force. Author, podcaster, climate engager and foster mum. Sarah Wilson has been on my dream guest list from day dot. Now, I'm not going to lie, I was a tad nervous for this chat. I mean it's the Sarah Wilson, not only the queen of the health and wellness world when I was writing nutrition books. Sarah has gone on to do some pretty incredible things and has since written about anxiety, opened up about her bipolar (in First we make the Beast Beautiful) and more recently she's written about climate change in her newest title The One Wild and Precious Life. You know when you meet someone who's incredibly intelligent and you get scared you're not smart enough, well that was me! But I had nothing to fear, Sarah welcomed me into her home, and helped me to understand a little more about not only her, but her powerful value system. This is a human that's here to make a difference, and my word, she absolutely is. p.s image credit from audiogram: Rob Palmer Want to learn more about Sarah? Website: https://www.sarahwilson.com/Insta: https://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_/Pod: https://www.sarahwilson.com/podcast/Books: https://www.sarahwilson.com/this-one-wild-and-precious-life/Big love,Lola Follow Lola Berry on Instagram: @yummololaberrywww.lolaberry.comwww.lolacoffee.co See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Beast Beautiful

Jen talks to best-selling author and philanthropist Sarah Wilson about her memoir about anxiety, 'First, We Make the Beast Beautiful.' Sarah tells Jen that even the Dalai Lama told her he can't stop the chatter in his head, Charles Darwin had panic attacks, and how being playful, experimental, and curious in approaching our anxiety work is key. To get Sarah's latest book 'This One Wild and Precious Life' about hope and a path forward in a fractured world during climate change go to her website - where you'll also find info on all of her best-selling books, her blog, information on her speaking engagements and more at: https://www.sarahwilson.com For more information on Jen Kirkman, the host of Anxiety Bites, please go here: https://jenkirkman.bio.link Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Suggestible things to watch, read and listen to. Hosted by James Clement @mrsundaymovies and Claire Tonti @clairetonti.Please vote for Suggestible in The Listener's Choice award australianpodcastawards.com/voteThis week's Suggestibles:EncantoOur ZooDexter: New BloodFirst, We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah WilsonThe One Wild and Precious Life by Sarah WilsonWild PodcastClaire's Christmas Gift IdeasSend your recommendations to suggestiblepod@gmail.com, we'd love to hear them.You can also follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook @suggestiblepod and join our ‘Planet Broadcasting Great Mates OFFICIAL' Facebook Group. So many things. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times and Amazon best-selling author, podcaster, thought leader, minimalist, philanthropist and climate advisor. She founded the international I Quit Sugar movement, wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. Sarah is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries, and her most recent book This One Wild & Precious Life recently won a Gold Nautilus Award and has been seen on USA Today's hottest releases along with The Washington Post's 10 New Books Spotlight. In her most recent book, ‘This One Wild & Precious Life: The Path Back to Connection in a Fractured World' Sarah takes readers on a soul's journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters…back to life.Sarah continues this conversation via her podcast Wild by Sarah Wilson Follow The Story Box on Social Media► INSTAGRAM ► TWITTER ► FACEBOOK ► WEBSITE SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE! ► Apple Podcast ► Spotify WATCH HERE:► YouTube If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to YouTube & Apple Podcasts, and leave a 5-star positive rating and review over on Apple Podcasts. Share it around with your friends and family.Support The Show Here:Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/thestorybox. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Will you sleep throughout the revolution? Or do you wish to reconquer your one wild and precious life by waking up? Well if your answer is yes, then this week's episode is for you. I spoke with Sarah Wilson. Sarah is a multi-New York Times and Amazon best-selling author, podcaster, thought leader, minimalist, philanthropist, and climate advisor. She also founded the international I Quit Sugar movement and is the best-selling author of the books I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. In our conversation, we cover some territory. We talk about food, mental health, life's journey, the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, and our disconnection from what matters, in fact, back to life. ----  CREDITS:   Host: Dr Ron Ehrlich Guest: Sarah Wilson Producer: Amelia Navascues ----  You can also watch this episode at https://drronehrlich.com/  ----- TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR HEALTH? Join me in my online health programs.  ----- CONNECT WITH ME You can ask questions via social media using my Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or YouTube page.

What happens when you mix a life of media expertise with the desire to help us collectively look after our health, planet and ‘precious life'? Well, we think you get Sarah Wilson!We used to call her the Sugar Lady, as she wrote, best selling book, I Quit Sugar and founded IQuitSugar.com, a program that has been completed by 1.5 million people in 133 countries.But will find no mention of sugar in this episode as Sarah is so much more than that we discovered! Why? In 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all money to charity. She now lives minimally, cycling her hand-built bike to red carpet events.Sarah is also the author or two other books: another best seller, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, and her latest book, This One Wild and Precious Life which explores the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters.Enjoy this delightful exchange!Big Love,Dave & Steve x See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Mariquita and Nora discuss how to process anxiety and grief during a time when community may be challenging to access. On the list of don'ts: toxic positivity and invalidating comments disguised as well-wishes. Suggestions include: reaching out to friends, peer groups and helplines; reading beautiful poetry; and finding healthy coping skills that work for and not against growth. Content warning: Topic discussions include anxiety, infertility, depression, and grief.   Resources mentioned:  https://imalive.org/ https://www.wellmamaoregon.com First We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah Wilson   Follow and support our host: Mariquita: Instagram Follow and support our guest: Nora: Website // Instagram // Facebook Beyond the Box: Our weekly round-up of blog and podcast content delivered directly to your inbox every Friday This episode was edited by Claudia Neu and produced by Renee Powers on the ancestral land of the Dakota people. Original music by @iam.onyxrose Learn more about Feminist Book Club on our website, sign up for our emails, shop our Bookshop.org recommendations, and follow us on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, Pinterest.

Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers ‘I Quit Sugar' and ‘First, We Make the Beast Beautiful', which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. She is the author of another 11 cookbooks which sell in 52 countries. Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. In 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all the money to charity. Sarah lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for traveling the world for eight years with one bag. This was another great chat with yet another inspiring woman. Enjoy.

We are so excited about this episode featuring an inspiring and no-topic-off-limits conversation with the globally renowned Sarah Wilson.Sarah has achieved massively in multiple arenas; she's a former journalist and TV presenter, she's an author and activist and successful entrepreneur. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which best-selling author Mark Manson described as the best book on living with anxiety that he'd ever read. Along with her latest book, ‘This One Wild and Precious Life', Sarah has been ranked as one of the top 200 influential authors in the world and her online wellness ‘I Quit Sugar' program was taken by 1.5 million people around the world.These days, Sarah's a campaigner for the causes that matter and, in particular, the climate crisis. Her determination to motivate us all to do what we can, is matched only by her research, her passion and her own crusading life. In this open and vulnerable episode you'll learn:How Sarah's childhood explains so much about the leader she is todayHow she has completely reframed and values her anxietyWhat happened when she was at her lowest ever pointHow important hiking is to Sarah, andWhy 3.5% is such a magnificent and hopeful number. Now, on a serious note, during our conversation as Sarah goes deep and vulnerable, we want to alert you that she describes a time she had dark and suicidal thoughts. If you think this might trigger you or someone listening with you please take the appropriate care. We think you'll just love this episode with the crusading and inspiring Sarah Wilson...Useful LinksSarah's website Link to Sarah's book tour in AustraliaAll of Sarah's BooksSarah's Favourite HikesSarah on Instagram See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We live in truly overwhelming times. The climate crisis, political polarisation, racial injustice, and coronavirus have left many of us in a state of spiritual PTSD. Our guest today, Sarah Wilson, is a former journalist and TV presenter, author, and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar, and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read.” Join Jason Marc Campbell and Sarah Wilson as they discuss a series of 'wildly awake' and joyful practices for reconnecting again.    Sarah Wilson is the founder of IQuitSugar.com, Australia's largest wellness and health site, and online 8-Week Program, which saw more than 1.5 million people quit sugar worldwide before she closed it in March 2018. She is a multi-New York Times bestselling and #1 Amazon bestselling author. Sarah is the author of the latest book, This One Wild and Precious Life, a soul's journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities, and our disconnection from what matters. She also authors the book, Simplicious Flow, the world's first zero-waste cookbook, released in 2018.   Listen out for: - The inspiration behind Sarah's book. - Collective anxiety vs. individual anxiety. - What the world looks like after you overcome the anxiety. - How to practice wild activism   Bonus: - Subscribe to 'Mindvalley Membership' to discover 30+ Mindvalley Quests – at a surprisingly low annual fee. You can also watch our podcast sessions live, interact with the guests, connect with the world's best teachers and find your community here

It's about emotions, succeeding, striving, finding what works what doesn't. And by the way her name isn't Kelly, it's Sarah Wilson and the book is called, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful! And the tea is actually called Butterfly Pea Tea but when I said it, it seemed like it was actual pee from a butterfly, it's how the mind thinks and blue to purple tea does seem like it could be butterfly pee

Join the Captain and the Cook as our voyage continues. During this episode we explore the life of Chester Bennington and Linkin Park. Please note we are exploring some tricky themes and if you need to reach out then there are Samaritans and Calm who are there to help. Also stay tuned to hear how we both got on with our weekly challenges, an exciting announcement as well as Chapter 5 being read by the Cook! Anchors up! Please like/comment/subscribe and we can be contacted on: Instagram , Twitter or email us at captainandcookpod@gmail.com During the pod we reference a number of links/charities/people all who are listed below: Jacob Abraham Foundation Chester Bennington Radio One Interview NME Article with Chester's Widow Chester Bennington - In His Own Words Grey Daze - YouTube Page Linkin Park - YouTube Page Thread Lightly Clothing Chester Bennington - Hallelujah Mike Shinoda on coping through music The Recovery Village Article 'One More Light' Saving Suicide Story Make Your Bed - YouTube First, We Make the Beast Beautiful

In our first episode since Ramadan break, Hashem is joined by Manal Ataya who, as the Director General of Sharjah Museum Authority, sits at the helm of 16 museums documenting and consolidating the cultural heritage of the region. They discuss the “inner workings” of a museum director and why Manal finds curiosity and hunger for knowledge so essential to success in her field. They also talk about the subject of mental health which sits at the forefront of the post pandemic era. Manal speaks candidly about her own personal struggle with anxiety and being diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder (GAD). She reveals that the book “First, We Make the Beast Beautiful” helped inspire a change of perspective for her to not only embrace some of the positive outcomes of an anxious mind, but also use it to her advantage as a tool that fuels her productivity.

Derik Mills speaks with Dr. Amelia Nagoski, the co-author of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, Dr. Nagoski explains how stress not only affects our emotional and physical wellbeing, but can remain trapped in our bodies. She discusses the ways patriarchy jeopardizes everyone's health, but especially women and people of color. She also shares the importance of connectedness, the belief in something larger than ourselves, and the ways that radical care for others could be a way to overcome stress and address burnout.Links:Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress CycleFirst We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah Wilson Listen to all episodes of The Glo Podcast at http://glo.com/podcast

In this latest conversation I am speaking with the lovely @_SarahWilson_. Share with me when you are listening and tag me on social media - @PaulScanlonUK Sarah is a former journalist (cosmopolitan magazine) and TV presenter (Master Chef AU), author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, and has a new book out called - This One Wild and Precious Life. If you have or know of anyone who has ever experienced any form of anxiety, depression or loneliness can I encourage you to grab your notebook and dive into this conversation as Sarah is vulnerable and real with her answers that I think will really help us all to have a better language for these things we all go through. I loved her openness with me also about her experience with suicide which we all know has been on the rise for many years and we need to become more aware of it and speak more openly about peoples experiences with this and mental health. We also speak about her creative process as best selling author, her thoughts on ageing, climate change and her personal experience with the global pandemic. Here are some of the questions I asked Sarah - 1.05 - How have you found Covid? 4.07 - What was it about your anxiety that during the lockdown gave you hidden serendipity gifts? 12.35 - What do you want think will come out of this pandemic with regards to loneliness? What is it that we are lonely for? 21.40 - How did you get into writing and your creative process? 23.24 - What did you mean by you weren’t ready and how did your know when you’re were ready? 27.11 - What is your creative process? 31.50 - What is your motivation for writing is it for you or the people? 36.13 -Do you get lonely, what is your philosophy about relationships? 39.58 - Do you believe in God and what does that mean to you? 42.06 - Are you afraid of dying? 43.11 - Do you worry about ageing? Ending with some quick fire questions... ---- Don't forget to subscribe for more podcasts coming soon and please do leave a review and share with a friend! Connect - pa@paulscanlon.com

If you've been feeling lonely, trapped, or disconnected from what is real, then do we have the, This One Wild and Precious Life, show for you!   Today I'll be talking with Sarah Wilson, former journalist and TV presenter, author, activist, and New York Times best-seller of books including I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, about her latest, piece de resistance, This One Wild and Precious Life: The Path Back to Connection in a Fractured World.   That is just what I want to talk with her about, about how to reconnect, discover our wildness, and live a meaning filled life. You can reconnect, feel better, and live your greatest life, not despite this time, but BECAUSE of it, as you learn to hear and heed the call of your soul. It's a matter of learning how to hear your soul, get in alignment with your soul, and begin to live your soul's purpose - which is often much closer than you think.   Plus we'll talk about hot and cool loneliness, a woman in red, parrhesiastes, what on earth is degrowth economics, and what in the world a doomsday clock and kamikaze mode has to do with anything! Are you ready to shine?   To find out more visit: https://amzn.to/2KQlQHP - This One Wild and Precious Life https://www.sarahwilson.com/  https://amzn.to/3qULECz - Order Michael Sandler's new book, "AWE, the Automatic Writing Experience" www.automaticwriting.com  ……. Follow Michael and Jessica's exciting journey and get even more great tools, tips, and behind-the-scenes access. Go to https://www.patreon.com/inspirenation   For free meditations, weekly tips, stories, and similar shows visit: https://inspirenationshow.com/   We've got NEW Merch! - https://teespring.com/stores/inspire-nation-store   Follow Inspire Nation, and the lives of Michael and Jessica, on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/InspireNationLive/   Find us on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@inspirenationshow  

How much sugar should you be eating?  Why is it so hard to stop once you start?  How have we evolved to crave it and what can you do about it? Spartan founder and CEO Joe De Sena talks to Sarah Wilson. Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers "I Quit Sugar" and "First, We Make the Beast Beautiful" and she is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Sarah's latest book "This One Wild and Precious Life" is a soul's journey through the complexities of climate change, coronvirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters…back to life. Today's episode of Spartan up is brought to you by The Ready State.  Use the code SPARTAN10 at  thereadystate.com to get a free two week trial of  VMC for free,  and then 10% off your membership for life after your free trial ends. LINKS: https://www.sarahwilson.com/ and check out her podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1548626341   FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod   CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc. Host: Joe De Sena Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye will be back soon, we miss them! © 2021 Spartan

Today I sit down with Sarah Wilson, a New York Times bestselling author. She has written a number of books including ‘First, We Make the Beast Beautiful', ‘I Quit Sugar', and most recently, ‘This One Wild and Precious Life'. The current times can seem overwhelming and we've fallen into this "crisis of disconnection", leading us to retreat both morally and psychologically. In her book, Sarah talks about how these things can actually unite us, along with a number of ways to do this through joyful practices and being wildly awake. Enjoy! sarahwilson.com Podcast: Wild with Sarah Wilson IG: @_sarahwilson_

My guest this week is author and philanthropist Sarah Wilson. These days, Sarah is perhaps best known for her New York Times bestselling book on anxiety, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. But we first met in a previous life, when she was primarily known for being the woman behind I Quit Sugar – which spawned 11 cookbooks and a whole ethos on how to kick sugar addition.Many people experience a surge in sugar cravings after they quit drinking, and so we get deep into what is up with that. But the majority of our interview focusses on Sarah’s new book, This One Wild and Precious Life, which basically details what happened after she sold her business, gave all the money to charity, and embarked on a quest to get to the bottom of our disconnection epidemic – which many would argue is really the root of all our addictions.The book is a beautiful, inspiring, call to personal activism: what she calls our “appointment with life.” Given that the desire to remove alcohol so often stems from a sense that there is something missing from our life or something more out there waiting for us, I think anybody is sober curious will be able to relate. In the episode we discuss: -The clusterfuck of factors threatening this one “wild and precious life” in 2021.-Why our personal and collective crises are an invitation to our appointments with life.-What makes both sugar and alcohol so addictive – and why we often replace booze with sugar when we quit.-The toxic effect both substances have on our body.-How to fill the emotional void when we remove these substances.-Sarah’s philosophy on where anxiety comes from, and how this feeds our addictions.-Why getting out of our heads and finding ways to be of service the world is a “cure” for anxiety.-Why walking and other vigorous forms of exercise dial down anxiety. -How we can “hike it out” even when we don’t have easy access to nature.-The spiritual value of self-sacrifice – and the damage done by consuming too much “spiritualism lite.”-Why spirituality and politics have to go hand-in-hand. -The meaning of the term “group soul” and how we can turn attune to this to foster connection.Learn more about Sarah and her work HERE, get your copy of  This One Wild and Precious Life HERE, check out here new podcast WILD, and follow her on IG @_sarahwilson_Big thank you to Three Spirit for partnering on this episode! You can order directly at www.threespiritdrinks.com - and get 15% off your order with the code SOBERCURIOUS

Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I’ve ever read”. She is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. In May 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all money to charity. She now builds and enables charity projects that “engage humans with each other” and campaigns on mental health and climate issues. Sarah ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world and has a combined digital audience of 2.5 million. Sarah lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for travelling the world for eight years with one bag. Sarah’s latest book This One Wild and Precious Life is a soul’s journey through the complexities of climate change, coronvirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters…back to life. In today's podcast, Sarah dives deep into everything you need to understand about sugar: -why she quit sugar and how it healed her thyroid disease -benefits of eliminating sugar -dangers of sugar and processed foods -the difference between glucose and fructose -easy tips to reduce and eliminate sugar in your life -the impact of sugar on mental health -and more about what she's been up to since IQS Connect with Sarah Wilson: Sarah's website Sarah's Facebook Sarah's Twitter Sarah's Instagram Links mentioned: I Quit Sugar Website and Online Shop Sarah Wilson Books Connect with Dr. Aaron Tressler and join us in Making Pittsburgh Healthy: www.makingpittsburghhealthy.com Facebook: @MakingPittsburghHealthy Instagram: @MakingPittsburghHealthy Sign up for Dr. Tressler's FREE Mini Video Course: The Naturally Pain Free Workshop https://www.thepainfreeway.com/

This week on Alive and Kicking Clare McKenna chats to the force of Nature that is Sarah Wilson. Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I’ve ever read”. She is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Her latest book ‘This One  Wild and Precious Life’. Clare also talks to Breege Leddy of the Insomnia Clinic about why people’s sleep is becoming so interrupted during the Pandemic.

Bestselling Australian Author Sarah Wilson ("I Quit Sugar," "First, We Make the Beast Beautiful") discusses her latest book, "This One Wild and Precious Life," a soul’s journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters. Wilson is a passionate environmentalist and minimalist, who hikes the world with one small backpack. She discusses the healing power of nature and stepping outside your comfort zone. www.sarahwilson.comFearless Fabulous You Radio Show is broadcast live at 12noon ET Wednesdays on W4WN Radio – The Women 4 Women Network (www.w4wn.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). This podcast is also available on Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com).

BIO: Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I’ve ever read”. She is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries.Sarah’s latest book This One Wild and Precious Life is a soul’s journey through the complexities of climate change, coronvirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters…back to life. Sarah hikes around the world, meeting wild voices and experts who provide hopeful wisdoms and vibrant solutions to arrive at what she feels is the true path through the despair…to our better world.www.sarahwilson.com1-ON-1 COACHINGIf you want go from feeling hopeless to hopeful, lonely to connected and like a burden to a blessing, then go to 1-on-1 coaching, go to www.thrivewithleo.com. Let’s get to tomorrow, together. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline800-273-TALK [800-273-8255]1-800-SUICIDE [800-784-2433]Teen Line (Los Angeles)800-852-8336The Trevor Project (LGBTQ Youth Hotline)866-488-7386National Domestic Violence Hotline800-799-SAFE [800-799-7233]Crisis Text LineText "Connect" to 741741 in the USALifeline Chathttps://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/International Suicide Hotlines: http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-hotlines.html

Watch the full video interview on YouTube here: https://bit.ly/tuhpsarahwilson385 Sarah Wilson (IG: @_sarahwilson_) is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. Sarah is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. In May 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all money to charity. Sarah lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for travelling the world for eight years with one bag. Sarah’s latest book This One Wild and Precious Life is a soul’s journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters... back to life. In this episode, we discuss: Sarah is working on discernment and deliberateness during the pandemic COVID-19... the great revealer Building resilience Facing uncertainty Shaking off anxiety with intense physical exercise Seeking out meaningful relationships The lost art of handwriting letters Slowing down and reprioritizing your values Stop buying into consumerism It’s not about saving the planet, it’s about saving us Start where you are Care begets care Radical hope Loving this one wild and precious life Being in nature What is spiritual materialism? Sarah’s mental health throughout 2020 Writing helps express emotions Living life to the max Do something every day that scares you Taking responsibility Sarah’s renewed energy and embracing who she is Now is the time Listening to the signs Blogging is the new Zoom Show sponsors: Organifi

Author, journalist, & activist, Sarah Wilson joins Raghu to discuss balancing the inner spiritual journey with outer action, sharing, and sacrifice in order to be of service to the collective.Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist, who wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as, “the best book on living with anxiety that I’ve ever read.” Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. In May 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all money to charity. She now builds and enables charity projects that “engage humans with each other” and campaigns on mental health and climate issues. Sarah ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world and has a combined digital audience of 2.5 million. Sarah’s latest book, This One Wild and Precious Life, is a soul’s journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters. For more info, visit SarahWilson.com

Hey there Hopefuls!! In this weeks episode we talk through the concept of happiness not being a destination and give you some awesome inspired action steps to get you feeling happy RIGHT NOW!! Enjoy!First We Make the Beast Beautiful by: Sarah Wilson https://www.amazon.com/s?k=first+we+make+the+beast+beautiful+book&i=stripbooks&crid=325PKZS7TS1QI&sprefix=first+we+%2Cstripbooks%2C222&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9The Joy of Living: Unlocking the Secret and Science of Happiness by:Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche https://www.amazon.com/Joy-Living-Unlocking-Science-Happiness/dp/0307347311Joyce Meyer's Sermon https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1528010600711879 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which Mark Manson described as “the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read”. She is the author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. In May 2018, Sarah closed the business and gave all money to charity. She now builds and enables charity projects that “engage humans with each other” and campaigns on mental health and climate issues. Sarah ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world and has a combined digital audience of 2.5 million. Sarah lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for travelling the world for eight years with one bag. Sarah's latest book This One Wild and Precious Life is a soul's journey through the complexities of climate change, coronvirus, racial inequalities and our disconnection from what matters…back to life. Sarah hikes around the world, meeting wild voices and experts who provide hopeful wisdom and vibrant solutions to arrive at what she feels is the true path through the despair…to our better world.Follow Sarah Wilson on Social Media Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_/Buy her book "This One Wild & Precious Life" - https://www.sarahwilson.com/about/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/sarah8wilson/Follow The Story Box on Social MediaInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thestoryboxpodcast/Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/thestoryboxpodcastFacebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/125781678801513YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEXHMRPxW0qoxV8kKjaFdYwIf you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to YouTube & Apple Podcasts, and leave a 5-star positive rating and review over on Apple Podcasts. Share it around with your friends and family. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers First, We Make the Beast Beautiful and now This One Wild And Precious Life. You may remember her as the editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the I Quit Sugar movement. She ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world and has a combined digital audience of 2.5 million. Sarah lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for travelling and hiking the world for eight years with one bag. This episode is deeply personal. Sarah shares stories of paralysing anxiety, pregnancy loss, love affairs with goat herders, stepping away from the matrix, and living life as your own round peg in your own round hole in your forties and beyond. CREDITS: Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills Guest: Sarah Wilson Instagram: @_sarahwilson_ Wedsite: www.sarahwilson.com Producer: Jason Strozkiy - www.strozkiymedia.com CONTACT: Email: hello@thosetwogirls.com.au Instagram: @liseandsarah Facebook: Those Two Girls See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's ok not to be ok.In a brand new episode of the podcast I discuss my mental health diagnosis of severe depression and anxiety back in 2016 and why it was so helpful.I'd always feared this kind of diagnosis would signpost me as a failure, but it actually signposted my way out of a lifetime of negative thinking, self-sabotaging behaviour and unhappiness.When I look back and ask myself if there's anything I wish I'd done differently, it's that I'd have asked for help earlier. Instead I spent years powering through, pushing it away and minimising how bad things were until eventually it all caught up with me and I had no choice but to address it.This podcast was prompted by the response to the video I posted on #IGTV about my mental health and as not everyone who follows me on social listens to the show - and vice versa - I wanted to share that audio again as the second half of the episode. It also contains the five books that I have found most helpful in understanding my own mental health issues but also understanding other people and what they may be going through too.The books featured are: Lost Connections by @johann.hariThe Four Tendencies by @gretchenrubinYou Are a Badass by @jensinceroFirst, We Make the Beast Beautiful by @_sarahwilson_How to Survive the End of the World by @technicallyronTo find this episode simply click the link in my bio or type ‘The Emma Guns Show' into your preferred podcast platform.To join the closed Facebook group for the podcast click here >> The Emma Guns Show Forum.To follow me on social media >> Twitter | Instagram. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Charlie’s guest for this episode is Sarah Wilson. Sarah Wilson, the New York Times best selling author, former journo and retired intrepid traveler shares her regenerative journey in a frank, open and honest chat with Charlie.  The setting for the interview is Sarah’s Bondi apartment, her sanctuary and place she now calls home. Sarah recounts her fascinating story and explains what it is to finally put down roots. Charlie and Sarah share an open dialogue which touches on what regenerative agriculture means to Sarah, as she talks about the fragile state of mankind today in terms of diet, mental illness /disease, and the urgent need for realignment - a subject matter close to Sarah’s heart and aptly the focus of her new book: ‘This One Wild and Precious Life: A hopeful path forward in a fractured world’,  which has just hit the shelves. Put aside some time and delve in and listen to this life-changing episode now!  To start a dialogue and converse more about topics raised in this podcast, please visit The Regenerative Journey Podcast Facebook Group.  Episode Takeaways:  Every community needs an esoteric spinster wandering around the street | I interpret odd as not being necessarily bad. I I rebelled against some of the thinking around my upbringing however I maintained many of the sustainable minimalist principles. | I probably did a bunch of things that scared the living daylights of my parents. | It generally takes a slap down for those of us who have done a very big pivot in life, to do that pivot. | I believe when you have a longing in your soul.. Life will join you.  Life will corporate with you to steer you in direction. | (Talking about her auto-immune disease) - Gets your ego and scrapes you through the mud. | I had made a commitment, in the absence of any framework, into how to live life on this planet… If I hear a mention  of something three times in a row, I must act. | Meditation was a big part of my shift. It was being stripped bare, and being left with nothing. | Reduced down to the two suitcases.. And then the rest of my life started| I was aware of how off kilter we were  with our food system.. How much really basic logic we have managed to disrupt. We have created hyper normal problems. | There is a lot of sensible common sense stuff that  really we only have to look at the way our great grandparents to get an indication of what a really good sustainable life on this planet looks like. | I have been able to heal from multiple stress related / autoimmune disease I believe and reverse a lot of the markers because of the way I live - in nature, in dirt, in trees. | I describe a serious anxiety order as like carrying a shallow bowl of water around for the rest of my life. | I am feeling very overwhelmed very scared about what is going on in the world. | (talking about her book) I am reframing my anxiety through a new lens. Links :  www.sarahwilson.com  - Sarah’s website Sarah Wilson website  I Quit Sugar Series - author Sarah Wilson First, We make the Beast Beautiful  - author Sarah Wilson This One Wild and Precious Life: A hopeful path forward in a Fractured World - author Sarah Wilson Nicho Plowman - Vedic meditation teacher  The Conscious Club - Transformational Learning and Lifestyle centre Tim Brown - meditator Hashimoto's disease - information  Dr James Hollis - jungian psychoanalysis.  Food Inc -  Joel Salatin movie Dr. Chris Kresser -   renowned expert, leading clinician, and top educator in the fields of Functional Medicine and ancestral health. Active Farmers  - country farmers/ riding bikes.  Chris Eggert - Norco / dairy farmer Nietzsche thinking -  german philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche   Sils Maria - Town in Switzerland.  Heidi - book and later film William Wordsworth - English poet David Whyte - Irish poet Victor Frankel - Austrian neurologist & psychologist   Man’s Search for Meaning - Victor Frankel author    Fostering in Australia  - resources  Sir Ken Robinson - Ted Talk   Steiner Education - resources

Sarah Wilson is a NYT best selling author.Her books include, “I Quit Sugar”, “First, We Make the Beast Beautiful”, and her new book “This One Wild and Precious Life”. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sarah Wilson is a former journalist, TV presenter, author and activist.  You may best know her as the founder of the multimillion-dollar wellness brand I Quit Sugar.More recently Wilson's work has looked at her own bipolar disorder - her last book ‘First, We Make the Beast Beautiful' addressed her personal anxiety.It was after writing that book that Wilson wanted to explore an itch she was feeling – a wider sense of unease, disconnection or collective anxiety in society as a whole.It was that itch that brought about a three-year journey hiking around the world and the outcome, is her new book, ‘This One Wild and Precious Life'.Wilson joined Francesca Rudkin to discuss how her itch turned into such a long journey, as well as her mental health journey. LISTEN ABOVE

In this episode of 'How To Thrive In A Crisis' Margot sits down with Sarah Wilson. Many of you will be familiar with Sarah and her work. Sarah is a former journalist, TV presenter, author and activist. She wrote the New York Times bestsellers I Quit Sugar and First, We Make the Beast Beautiful and is author of another 11 cookbooks that sell in 52 countries. Previously she was editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, host of Masterchef Australia and founder of the largest wellness website in Australia, IQuitSugar.com. She now builds and enables charity projects and campaigns on mental health and climate issues. She lives minimally, rides a hand-built bike and is known for travelling the world for eight years with one bag. The interview with Margot draws upon Sarah's latest book This One Wild and Precious Life - a journey through the complexities of climate change, coronavirus, racial inequality and our disconnection from what matters… back to life. CREDITS Host:Margot Faraci Guest:Sarah Wilson Producer:Rachael Hart CONTACT US If you'd like to get in touch with Margot, head to her LinkedIn profile here; https://www.linkedin.com/in/margot-faraci/ Find out how NAB can help you today by visiting https://www.nab.com.au/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the #PracticeWithClara Podcast where Clara and Stephanie discuss philosophy, yoga, and all things related to the practice. In this episode, we sit with Shiv Derek Oss for a discussion of the fifth chakra, Vishuddha. We go into some of the themes and the imbalances/blockages, including how to discover your song and your story, and the sacred power of mythology. Here's more on what we talk about in this episode: 0:53 - Introducing Vishuddha Chakra Reading from Wheels of Life by Anodea Judith, to introduce the main themes of the 5th chakra. 2:10 - Cycles of Aum in Hindu Philosophy The 4 parts contained in the Aum and how this relates to our evolution and the cycles of life and the transformation we experience. 5:56 - The Myths that Make Us Who We Are An exploration of the stories that make us who we are: Stephanie asks Clara and Shiv what they're currently reading to explore how the stories we read create our realities. 13:25 - Making The Beast Beautiful Examining anxiety in how we move through it and work with it through the lens of the novel by Sarah Wilson, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. 19:01 - The Power of Mythology Storytelling gives us the idea that we are never alone as we read about the events of others that may have gone through what we've experienced. 20:00 - Centering Through Sound How we connect to our sound and why its relevant; tracing our oral tradition and its roots, back to bird song. 23:46 - Sounds We Might Connect To Some of the unique sounds that make up our landscape and the powerful effect that resides in the mind and body as a result. What are you favorite sounds? 27:40 - The Magic Carpet of Storytelling How we prefer to be in story, through film, literature, or other forms of media. 36:11 - The Vitality of Self-Expression Exploring the theme of self-expression with the 5th chakra in feeling complete, blocked, or imbalanced in how we express ourselves. 42:30 - How Do You Express Your Truth? Leaving our listeners with a question of how you express your truth, authenticity, and your sound? What are the sounds that make your heart sing? You can watch the full version on the #PracticeWithClara App (TV, Mobile, Tablet) Download on your favourite App Store: https://practice.clararobertsoss.com/programs/vishuddha-chakra-self-exploration-inner-truth Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify or wherever you like to listen :) Clara's Website: https://www.clararobertsoss.com/podcast/the-chakra-series-5th-chakra-vishuddha-themes-and-practices/ Join the conversation on our facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicewithclaracommunity #philosophy #yogatalk #yogapodcast

CONTENT WARNING: In this episode we discuss a wide variety of topics surrounding mental health and mental illness, including depression, anxiety, suicide, and suicidal thoughts. Because it's always good to share and because May is Mental Health Awareness Month, here is the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline as well: 1-800-273-8255. FOLLOW US: Kati - @shelfmadewoman on Instagram Kelsey - @littlereadinglists on Instagram The Podcast - @booksandboobspod on Instagram AND @books_boobspod on Twitter   BOOKS WE COVERED: “A Court of Mist and Fury” by Sarah J. Maas “Well Met” by Jen DeLuca “Josh and Hazel’s Guide to Not Dating” by Christina Lauren “Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda” by Becky Albertalli “Lean on the Offbeat” by Becky Albertalli “Legendary” by Stephanie Garber “Untamed” by Glennon Doyle “A Court of Thorns and Roses” by Sarah J. Maas “Reasons to Stay Alive” by Matt Haig “The Astonishing Color of After” by Emily X.R. Pan “Furiously Happy” by Jenny Lawson “The Collected Schizophrenias” by Esme Weijun Wang “Defying the Verdict - My Bipolar Life” by Charita Cole Brown “First We Make the Beast Beautiful” by Sarah Wilson ALSO MENTIONED: “Stay Sexy and Don’t Get Murdered” by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark “Maybe You Should Talk to Someone” by Lori Gottlieb  “Let’s Pretend This Never Happened” by Jenny Lawson “Disappearing Earth” by Julia Phillips

Lots of airtime has been given to the stress that parents and carers of young families are currently under, juggling working from home or job loss with remote schooling and caring for kids too young to understand why everything is different. Amongst all of that there has been little time given to the question of how people in single-person households are faring, so in today's episode Brooke sits down with friend of the show Sarah Wilson to talk loneliness during lockdown. Sarah is a former journalist, TV presenter, activist and author of one of the best books about anxiety and depression published over the past few years, First We Make the Beast Beautiful. With her incredible depth of knowledge on living with anxiety, Sarah shares not only how she's finding lockdown, but also why she thinks anxiety has given her an advantage to coping with strange times.  Brooke and Sarah also discuss how COVID-19 will impact Australia in terms of social, economic and climate issues, and talk about the need for resilience and the differing levels of emotional resilience across generations.  One of the other really common conversations people are having now revolves around what our 'new normal' might look like, and Sarah offers her typically thought-provoking, status-quo challenging insights and shares why we need to be both "slow and outraged" as we move forward.  Looking for more Slow? Find show notes, resources and links at slowyourhome.com/season6 Follow us on Instagram @slowhomepod Sign up for the Slow Post, Brooke's weekly slow-living love letters  Or leave a rating or review in iTunes Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/slow See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I review 'First, We Make the Beast Beautiful' by Sarah Wilson. I consider this book to be very valuable in anxiety management. Sarah is not a doctor but instead provides her personal account. As always, this podcast is based on experiences and should not be construed as medical or professional advice. Please speak with a medical professional. Please subscribe, review & share the Podcast! Follow me on IG: @saraladygluten and visit the Learning to Slay the Beasts Blog: www.theallergybeast.wordpress.com

Sarah Wilson is on the pod with Tahnee today and just quietly the whole SF crew are pretty stoked about it. Many of you may recognise Sarah as "that I quit sugar lady", after all she pioneered the movement and has written and published many books on the subject. In 2018 Sarah sold the I Quit Sugar franchise and gave all the proceeds to charity, a legendary act considering the success the movement has had globally. Sarah is a journalist and activist at heart, spending a lot of her time avidly researching and seeking the truth, sharing her insights with absolute fervour through her books, media appearances, blog and social media platforms. Sarah's expertise and main areas of interest surround the issues of mental health, the environment and sustainability, politics and healthcare. Sarah is someone who "gives a shit", a deeply passionate soul on a quest to save what's left of the planet for generations to come. Sarah's approach is accessible, community minded and no fuss. Today we have the pleasure of discussing the theme's in her latest book, First We Make The Beast Beautiful, a personal text exploring anxiety and bipolar disease through lens of spirituality and philosophy.   "fight for rightness" - Sarah Wilson   Sarah and Tahnee explore: Anxiety and mental health, the highs, the lows, the gifts. Loneliness. Collective despair "we're in the middle of a human despair crisis, and it's completely understandable. We're all avoiding talking about it in that language because we're just not ready yet." Carrying what Sarah calls "radical hope" in your heart in these globally turbulent times. "I was like, what's the point of just feeling good myself when the planet's burning, you know? I need to get out there" The inextricable nature of politics and spirituality. The plight of the individual, where neoliberalism fails us and the importance of community. The corona virus and the toilet paper crises. Sarah's daily non negotiable's, think movement, meditation, real food and like minded community. Why walking is such an effective tool against anxiety. Non-consumerism and travelling light. The one thing Sarah does hoard - personal letters and postcards!   Who is Sarah Wilson? Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times bestselling and #1 Amazon bestselling author. A former journalist and editor of Cosmopolitan Australia, Sarah also hosted the first series of MasterChef Australia, the most watched show in Australian television. Sarah founded the I Quit Sugar Movement and has published 15 sugar-free cookbooks which sell in 131 countries. Sarah's latest cookbook, Simplicious Flow, is the world’s first zero-waste cookbook. Sarah's international bestselling book, First We Make The Beast Beautiful, reframes anxiety and bipolar disease through a philosophical and spiritual lens and has become both a #1 Amazon bestseller and New York Times bestseller. Sarah ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world (2017 and 2018) and has a combined digital audience of 3 million. Sarah closed the IQuitSugar.com digital business in 2018 and gave all funds to her charity trust. She know builds projects to assist both those in need and combat creeping individualism. Sarah is a foster carer and vocal anti-consumerist, hiking enthusiast and rides her bike everywhere. Her next book will be published in Australia and the US August 2020.   Resources: Sarah's Blog Sarah's Books First We Make The Beast Beautiful Sarah's Instagram Sarah's Facebook   Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus we're on Spotify! We got you covered on all bases ;P Check Out The Transcript Here:   Tahnee:  (00:00) Hi, everybody, and welcome to the SuperFeast podcast. Today, I'm here with Sarah Wilson. We're all big fans of Sarah at SuperFeast. I'm really excited to have her on the podcast. She has done so many things in her life, which is just such a beautiful kind of offering from her sharings on her blog and social media, all the way through to her published books. Many of you will know her from the I Quit Sugar franchise, but she was one of the youngest editors of Cosmo, if not the youngest editor. You can correct me on that later, Sarah. Tahnee:  (00:32) And she's also written this incredible book, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which has been going around our office for about a year now, and we've all really enjoyed reading it and getting into Sarah's wisdom around a lot of the mental health issues that people are struggling with these days. She's also been writing another book, so we'll hear about that in the podcast today, but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time. We know how busy you are. It's great to have you here. Sarah Wilson:  (00:57) And she's also written this incredible book, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, which has been going around our office for about a year now, and we've all really enjoyed reading it and getting into Sarah's wisdom around a lot of the mental health issues that people are struggling with these days. She's also been writing another book, so we'll hear about that in the podcast today, but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time. We know how busy you are. It's great to have you here. Tahnee:  (01:15) Yeah. And, I mean, we've got two copies between about ... Well, there's 20 staff in our team, but like we've been going one upstairs, one downstairs. [crosstalk 00:01:25]. Sarah Wilson:  (01:25) Well, I hope there's lots of notes and turned over pages [crosstalk 00:01:28]. Tahnee:   (01:28) ...marks and notes as they read it, and it's really nice to read other people's takeaways, and, yeah, it's been a really nice little journey.. Sarah Wilson:  (01:35) Oh, I love that. Tahnee:   (01:37) It sort of brings me to how relatable your story is, really. Even though many of us haven't officially been diagnosed with anything or haven't had anything since we were quite young. I was diagnosed with depression at 17, but I decided to try other things, rather than medication. But many of us really related to what you were talking about, and I think it's so easy to kind of label people with labels and diagnoses with something, but when you really look at the humanness of that experience of the things that you really describe so beautifully, the fear, and the suffering, and the closing in of the walls, and just the uncertainty and the inability to be with that uncertainty, especially when we're young, I think there was something really potent about that, that we've all connected to, even though...   Sarah Wilson:  (02:27) Yeah. I think also anyone I speak to with depression or anxiety in whatever form it takes, everyone at the core feels that, even if they've been diagnosed with some pretty extreme so called mental disorders, they still feel that there is something more going on than just some chemical imbalance in the brain. And, of course, the science now shows that, that theory, which our generation grew up with, that it's a serotonin imbalance, therefore it requires medication produced by a pharmaceutical company, we feel that that's a dissatisfying end to the debate or to the issue, in part because medication doesn't always fix the issue, in fact in the main part it doesn't, but also I think deep down, we know there's something more going on. Sarah Wilson:  (03:18) And so, yeah, the book, as you know, is more of a philosophical and spiritual journey through anxiety, and it actually goes beyond seeing it as a problem, but seeing it as, as I call it in the book, a superpower. And it can become a superpower when we can sit with it and see its beauty, hence the title of the book, First You Make the Beast Beautiful, because it has been something in our evolution that serves a really important purpose, that the poets, the scientists, the world leaders, the top world leaders, shamans, spiritual leaders throughout history we now know displayed what we would now call mental disorders, predominantly bi-polar and OCD. And I think it's really good for all of us to actually go, "Ah, there's actually a purpose behind this, and if we see what the purpose is, we can start to then attend to the deeper purpose that our anxiety is alerting us to."   Sarah Wilson:  (04:19) And then that becomes a far more, gosh, nourishing, beautiful journey to be on, rather than, "Oh, I've got to find a better psychiatrist or a better drug, because this last one isn't working."   Tahnee:   (04:29) Well, it just becomes a self perpetuating prophecy with the medication that people aren't ... Also, that's what I really appreciated was you didn't posset that there was a solution, but that it was kind of this tapestry of weaving that each individual really had to do on their own to really fight the things that nourish and support them. And we live in a culture that is, in many ways, creating these symptoms in us, but we have to take responsibility for our own relationship with that, I think, and I think when you look at your journey, I can really see that, like, how you've come through all these different kind of, I guess, milestones that people would consider to be, on paper, really amazing. And obviously not to undermine them, they are amazing, but when look at what really makes a person happy, some of these things are not that, you know?   Sarah Wilson:  (05:18) Yeah. Tahnee:   (05:19) Yeah. Would you say that's been, I guess, something that's, I guess, had to become relevant for you as you've [crosstalk 00:05:25] just keep pairing away the things that are just not serving you to be you? Sarah Wilson:  (05:32) That's right. It's often about ... There's a couple of things. I mean, I think in the main, I felt terribly lonely, and I say this really early in the book. A friend to me, "Why on earth are you writing this book?" And I said, "Because I'm bored and lonely." And I was. I was bored of the discussions that were being had, that I had to either avoid or I was sort of reduced to in and around my anxiety, and I was also lonely in it because we weren't talking the juicy stuff that sat down at that deeper level, and even just talking about it is a salve, having deep conversations. I think we get anxious because we're not having these conversations, these meaningful conversations.   Sarah Wilson:  (06:11) So to your point about these so-called successes I've had in my career, I suppose I can see that they came out of my anxiety, so there's the flip side that I've been highly productive because I've had this yearning forward, this outward search, and I've constantly been seeking a better way to do things, a more nourishing life, and that's kind of led me on to these various projects. So I can really be grateful for that, but now, as I'm in my mid to late 40s and working out where everything sits, I can now see that all the decisions I now make about my career are just becoming easier and easier because I now know what is at my heart that I'm searching for. I've got a much better understanding of it. And I've heard a lot of people, after they've read Beast, they've gone, "Gosh, I now know what decisions I've got to make. I know now how to make those decisions."   Sarah Wilson:  (07:13) And as you know, Tahnee, in the book, I talk about how one of the worst thing about anxiety is that we get anxious about being anxious. Mostly because we don't have a dialogue around anxiety, right? We're told that we shouldn't be anxious, right? So we get anxious that we're anxious because we're somehow failing at life. Then we get anxious about being anxious about being anxious and we go down this horrible spiral. And my thing is, you know, what, do anxiety once. Do it once, move on. Sarah Wilson:  (07:39) And that's one of the, yeah, the salves that form that tapestry, as you put it, of solutions and ways of looking at things. There's no one thing, but there's a lovely conversation we can have, where gradually, and you'll remember from the book, I talk about it being a big knotted ball of wool. We don't necessarily find the end of that knotted ball of wool and we magically pull it and all unfurls into a nice strand that our life can that travel along. We just loosen that ball of wool so that we don't get so cluttered and anxious and tense. We just loosen it. We provide gaps and oxygen in and around it all. And so, yeah, I'm sort of really butchering your tapestry metaphor here by turning it into a knotted ball of wool, but I'm sure the listeners get the point.   Tahnee:   (08:31) Well, I'm imagining a loose weave kind of knit right now. Sarah Wilson:  (08:34) Yeah, thank you. Tahnee:   (08:36) But I think you mentioned that, like, "Sitting with your triggers," was the quote you used in the book, and I guess I've done a lot of yoga, so that's my background, being yoga teacher and stuff, and one of the big teachings and gifts for me, and one of my teachers describes it as widening your bandwidth, it's like you never can hold more volume, and so, yeah, the anxiety's moving through, but you can kind of feel it as this huge cone of energy, but you don't have to resist it, which I think is worse than actually [crosstalk 00:09:06]. Sarah Wilson:  (09:06) Yeah. Well, it can be there and you can have a great life, so we take broader bandwidth, and that's why a lot of the solutions, I'd say roughly half of the exercises and solutions I put forward, and nothing's as definitive as a solution, but you know what I mean, some of techniques to experiment with- Tahnee:   (09:24) Practical [crosstalk 00:09:25]. Sarah Wilson:  (09:25) ... are about expanding that bandwidth, so that you can hold the anxiety when it comes, and then the other half are things to do when anxiety strikes, so what you can do when you're in the middle of one of those and- Tahnee:   (09:40) If you don't have the head space to- Sarah Wilson:  (09:43) Yeah, yeah. Tahnee:   (09:45) ... put ... Yeah. Yeah, and I guess when you talk about that, coming back to that superpower metaphor, which I think, again, is a really powerful one, I tend to hear when I speak to people, and, I guess, being in the unique situation of hearing all of our staff, talking about their experiences reading it, a lot of them are quite sensitive people who went to uni and tried to get careers in Sydney, and realised that that was working for them and couldn't really understand why they were suffering on a mental and physical level. Tahnee:   (10:14) And they've tried moving out to Byron and Mullum, and trying to decompress and unwind, but they fall into a lot of the similar patterns and habits here, even though the pressure isn't there for them and, yeah, it's a really tricky one to go, "Okay, well, I am a sensitive person. I have to have certain types of boundaries on my time and my energy, but these are things that make me great at my work," because, seriously, these people are amazing at what they do because they have that sensitivity and- Sarah Wilson:  (10:42) Yes, that's right. Tahnee:   (10:43) ... you're able to translate that human experience because you have such a depth of feeling. But comes with its own pros and cons, right? Sarah Wilson:  (10:52) That's right. That's right. And that's why we can have better conversations about that so that we actually feel comfortable with it all. When we feel comfortable about something, the beast becomes less scary, and then we start to reframe it as a beautiful thing. Tahnee:   (11:04) And so what about ... Obviously right now, there's a lot of fear in the media and these times are really interesting, I guess, is- Sarah Wilson:  (11:13) That's one way of putting it, yes. Tahnee:   (11:15) Yeah, and, I mean, you're on social media a lot, well, not a lot, but you're there, you have a presence and you're sharing a really strong message. Do you find that awareness of what's going on creates more anxiety for you now, or do you have ways of managing that now that you've gotten a bit more mature in your approach? Sarah Wilson:  (11:34) Yeah. Look, it's a combination. As you mentioned, I'm writing my next book, and, as of yesterday, I've been able to give the title of it out publicly. It's called This One Wild Precious Life, which I hope gives a bit of an indication of what the book's about. But it's essentially a soul's journey through all these nebulous things that we're having to cope with, predominantly the climate crisis, which is incredibly anxiety inducing. So in some ways, Beast looked at our anxiety as an inward journey, it was our own personal anxiety. This next book goes outwards. It goes out into the world to what I call our collective despair. You know, we're in the middle of a human despair crisis, and it's completely understandable. We're all avoiding talking about it in that language because we're just not ready yet. Sarah Wilson:  (12:23) But, yeah, I think that the journey I went on with First, You Make the Beast Beautiful certainly prepared me for this. It got me pretty solid. And, look, after the book came out, after the Beast came out, I've got to say my life has changed. It was a bit like writing a whole series of books about sugar, right? I could never walk down the street again eating a Magnum ice cream, you know? It was just like it kind of set up the guard rails for my own wellbeing. But ditto, with this anxiety book, it really forced me to go down into the stuff I was writing about because I really wanted it to be a legit sort of pathway for people. I had to go there first, and it really built new muscles in my own brain. Sarah Wilson:  (13:10) So, yeah, I came out of it much stronger, much more philosophical, but also the conversations I had with people were just so nourishing. It was exactly what I wanted. It delivered what I needed, personally, which was a better conversation. So, yes, going into this topic, it certainly has steeled me for things, however, this book, which has taken three years to research. I've been researching it and writing ir now solidly for three years. And that in itself has taken me to even a deeper level of maturity. And you used that word, maturity. It's absolutely apt. It's been a process of really growing up. Growing up in that real sort of soul way. That hero's journey. Joseph Campbell's Hero. The warrior. Sarah Wilson:  (13:56) And I've got to say, it's a very female kind of warrior energy, which I've had to channel. I've had no choice because I've been talking to climate experts around the world. I've been really embedded in a climate debate and the activism and all of that kind of thing, and you can't unsee this shit, right? Once you've learnt the reality of it and you've accepted this is the science, this is categorically as real as it gets, you can't unsee it, and so you've got to find better ways to cope with it. Pathways in your brain that enable you to keep waking up every day with, what I call, radical hope in your heart.   Sarah Wilson:  (14:40) So, yes, the hardship, the harshness, the devastation, the despair, the shame, the guilt, everything that I've been feeling, I've gone through it, past through it, and it's made me even stronger and more resilient. And I'm hoping that when people read this next book, when it comes out in late June, that they'll feel they'll benefit in the same way because that's what we're needing right now. So, yeah, it's been the next chapter in things, and it's been very much about ... It's like the parable of the monk that goes and meditates in the mountain for years on end, and then suddenly goes, "What's the point of this? I've got to come down from the mountain and bring the wisdom into the village." Tahnee:   (15:21) Yeah, love it. Sarah Wilson:  (15:21) Yeah. And that's where I arrived, and I was like, "What's the point of just feeling good myself when the planet's burning, you know? I need to get out there, and even if [inaudible 00:15:32] with my anxiety and I've still got all the bloody baggage and the stuff following me around, I've got to get on with some- Tahnee:   (15:39) Something right? Sarah Wilson:  (15:40) Yeah, yeah, exactly. Tahnee:   (15:42) And so, I mean, when you're talking about these shame feelings and that, because that's a really common thing, I think, that causes paralysis in people, and it kind of comes back to the advice similarly really to what you talk about with anxiety and these other sort of mind disorders, I suppose, that people are diagnosed with these days. It's this same idea of almost the permission and the willingness to enter into that space of feeling those things, but not letting them become us, or letting us become them, I suppose. It sort of reminds me of the meditative and yoga traditions where they talk about that you've got the contents of the mind and then you've got consciousness, and they're not the same, and it's a [inaudible 00:16:26] to separate them out a little bit, like you're saying, create that breathing room and space around them so that we can feel that, yeah, we're all apart of what's going on, we've all participated in the creation of this problem and we can- Sarah Wilson:  (16:38) Yeah, I think that dialogue is a really great one during times of peace, but I would say that we are in a time of emergency, and I suppose a lot of my message is about taking that spiritual yogic kind of tradition, that thinking about not being your emotions, witnessing it, et cetera, et cetera, not getting caught up in that dialogue, which is, it's a wonderful skillset to practise for everyday living. However, I would say it needs to be ratcheted up a notch or 50, so we're [inaudible 00:17:15] this today. And this is something that I actually do explore in my next book, that spiritual traditions have always adjusted in times of crisis, and what they've done is got quite political and also moved the journey out into the world, and that's kind of almost the rally call that I'm putting to the wellness community that, yeah, was appropriate for us all to do a fair bit of self care there, sort ourselves out, but, hey, even if you're not quite ready, get out on the road and be of service because the planet needs us right now.   Sarah Wilson:  (17:46) So that's something that I actually really am mindful of. And it can sound a little bit harsh, but I think the times demand it, that we've got to actually stop thinking about our own wellbeing, we've got to start to think more collectively at the moment, and- Tahnee:   (18:03) What does that look like for you then? Because that was kind of the point of my question. If someone's paralysed by their own feelings and they're afraid to feel them and they haven't developed a capacity really to go, "Okay, it's okay to feel that. I can still do something." [crosstalk 00:18:16]. Sarah Wilson:  (18:16) Yeah. Well, you've almost answered that in some ways because I think that even if you haven't developed the capacities perfectly, and, look, either have I, there's never an end point in this bloody of the journey, it's kind of the point. But, no, it's actually one of the things I've found is that activism or getting engaged, being of service to others, even if it's just the next door neighbor's dog, it really doesn't matter. Being engaged and of service is actually one of the best, would you believe, fixers for anxiety because- Tahnee:   (18:51) Like the altruism studies and stuff. Sarah Wilson:  (18:53) That's right. You can now steer some of that energy towards something bigger than yourself, and quite often, what actually creates our anxiety is a sense of what's this all about? Surely this is about something bigger, you know? And all of sudden, we've been granted exactly that, a thing bigger than ourselves that we need to attend to. So I think that that's something that is ... I think that's actually a really great way for us to see things. You might not be ready, but it doesn't matter. Get out there and help, and that will actually get us, get you there at an individual level. It's kind of a two birds, one stone thing. Tahnee:   (19:31) Yeah, and I guess no action is too small, right? Is that what you're saying? Like, if anyone had any inkling to get off their seat and do something, go and do it, and just follow that. Sarah Wilson:  (19:41) Yeah. And I think when you're depressed or you're anxious, quite often what happens is we can actually descend into a state of inaction and numbness because we get overwhelmed, and my book actually tries to walk through all of that with the reader so that they can not let that sort of overwhelm them and send them into the numbness. But I totally grant that it can be difficult, but I also think that ... Nietzsche said that when we have a why, we can handle any how. And I think that once we grasp the idea that our why is to really fight for the planet, fight for the life that we cherish, we find that the how just comes. We get motivated.   Sarah Wilson:  (20:30) But, yeah, look, I take your point that when we're struggling personally, it can be very easy to descend into overwhelm and numbness, and the guilt can get too much, the shame, it's just all too much. It's a bit like ... It's an evolutionary response. We either fight or we flee, or we freeze when things get tough. But I think there is a call to arms, and I think that it's getting louder, and I think it's actually going to be a great thing. For those of us who've had that itchy feeling, we're not attending to the right things in life. I actually think that's at the core of many people's anxiety, is a sense that this is just not right. We're not living the life we're meant to be. Tahnee:   (21:15) [crosstalk 00:21:15] humans when you go to countries that aren't as developed as the ones we live in are just that, it's community, and it's connection, it's these things that don't really have anything to do with how much crap you have and what's on your Instagram profile or whatever, and I think ... But that's something I get really stuck on in the ... For example, when the bushfires were happening, I arranged a food drive here, and people were sending me the most ridiculous things, saying, "Oh, why are you sending them bottled water? It's plastic, it's bad for the environment all this stuff. And I was like, "Look, there are all these people with no food, they have no clean water, I'm going to send it to them. Shut up. Just go away." Sarah Wilson:  (21:53) Yeah. I think what we do is we also grasp onto absolutes in times of fear, and it is very much a reminder of how much we need really solid, good, visionary leadership in times of crisis, and, unfortunately, in much of the Western world, we don't have that. We still haven't transitioned from a period of, in the vedic tradition, and some of your listeners would be aware of this. There's this idea of you have a period of creation, and then you have periods of maintenance, and then you have periods of destruction, and we've been in a period of maintenance. Pretty much, stability, financially, the world has gradually improved in way ways. Globally, there's been a fair bit of maintenance, but eventually, that comes to an end and we go into a period of destruction. Sarah Wilson:  (22:48) And that happens across all species, across all lifeforms throughout history, and we need to adjust to that, and we haven't adjusted yet. We're still in that maintenance, she'll be all right kind of phrase, and our leaders aren't actually going, "No, you know what? This is an emergency." We're going to have to kind of lift and ... And it's sort of what we did during various war eras, right? Countries mobilised. There were posters everywhere, there was propaganda, governments did everything they could to get the world onboard. Now, whether we think war is great or not, it's part of the cycle of life and it happened, and we needed to mobilise one way or another.   Sarah Wilson:  (23:32) If everybody sat at home went, "Oh, I'm not going to do the rations. Somebody else can do that." Or if we didn't have a leader who went, "Hey, we're going to have to all tighten the belts, go onboard, do what we can, support this war effort because we've all signed up to it and it is for the greater good," we'd be in all kinds of trouble today. So that's what we need from our leaders. So it is really hard. At the individual level, we've got to engage and really fire up, and in some ways, shelve our own personal stuff briefly so that we can attend to a greater good, which in the end, actually attends to the original anxiety, you know? It's actually a wonderful thing. Sarah Wilson:  (24:10) And, look, just to give you some statistics on this, during the London blitz, for instance, in World War II, the admissions into mental wards and also suicide rates dropped to virtually zero. And the theory that's been postulated is that the country was all mobilising together. There was a sense of the collectives that everybody was able to tap into. And, as I say, everybody had a why bigger than themselves. And I think that's really interesting, and those statistics played out around the world. People's depression, anxiety, would you believe, also suicide rates just dropped because people were getting on with something else, something bigger, something collective, something very tribal. Tahnee:   (24:58) Mm. So that's the call, that we use whatever kind of soil we have to start to build this ground swell, I suppose, of momentum towards [crosstalk 00:25:07]. Sarah Wilson:  (25:07) Yeah. And I actually think a lot of us have been waiting for this. Tahnee:   (25:10) Yeah. [inaudible 00:25:11] at this stage from the top down. Like, it's just that's... Sarah Wilson:  (25:14) No. Tahnee:   (25:15) I'm not waiting for that to happen. Sarah Wilson:  (25:17) No, please don't. And I've always taken that approach, Tahnee, with sugar. Don't sit around waiting for governments and junk food companies to suddenly go, "Oh, yeah, sugar's not that great, let's change." Just start shopping differently, start cooking and eating differently. And so that was something that was really motivating me, gosh, all those years ago now, eight years ago, when I decided to start the I Quit Sugar movement. It's like, God, everybody was sick of waiting for someone else to do it, let's do it ourselves. Tahnee:   (25:44) Yeah. So this is an interesting dilemma then that lands for me when we talk about these movements because they create product and they create challenges, and I've read all this crazy stuff about [inaudible 00:25:57] travels the world, and does this and blah, blah, and I've heard certain criticism of yourself for making books and products and all [inaudible 00:26:06]. It's like [crosstalk 00:26:07]. Sarah Wilson:  (26:06) Mm. You can't send plastic bottles to people who have no other way of getting water, yes. Tahnee:   (26:10) No. Interesting kind of mentality that we have to ... Like you said, it's criticism and paralysis instead of action that can ... I mean, even on the flip side of that, it's also this kind of way of avoiding ... Like, wellness industry, for me, is such a great example because it's like rather than address the fact that don't you feel okay, which has probably got more to do with what you're exposed to, how much rest you get, the food you're eating, the kinds of things you're consuming through your senses, more even so than through your mouth. But, I don't know, buy a product, buy a spray, buy a cream.. Sarah Wilson:  (26:50) Oh, yes, the outward [crosstalk 00:26:53]. Yeah, that's right. Buy [inaudible 00:26:54] to the solutions. Tahnee:   (26:56) And it's part of this climate ... I mean, I'm conscious of it with our business. We're bringing products from China. The Chinese herbs, I believe in them, but at the same time, I'm like, "Why don't I have an Australian tradition to draw from? Why don't I have wisdom from our 60,000 year old medicine tradition. Sarah Wilson:  (27:12) Yeah. Tahnee:   (27:14) It's a tricky one and I think about it every day. We obviously do what we can. We have a sustainability officer and we work really hard to do everything we can to make it a sustainable as possible but- Sarah Wilson:  (27:24) It's so tricky, and I love that you are bold enough to own it and actually call out some of the uglier, probably, examples of what you have to confront as a business owner. And I think that's one of the best things we can do, first and foremost, is kind of own the ugliness of it, and then we can actually start talking real solutions and being far more compassionate with each other. Look, I face it as well. I had my father on the weekend going, "Oh, well, Sarah, you fly places. You wrote this book and you went overseas to do some of your research." And I said, "Yep, I totally get it, and you're absolutely right. And I feel grimy about it." Sarah Wilson:  (28:09) And this not by way of my own personal justification, but more as I think this is the discussion we feel collectively we need to have is that we live in this world, we are all of this world, and even if we're being very virtuous, and I'm sure, like yourself, you do all kinds of other practises and make sacrifices to ameliorate some of your carbon footprint. I don't own a car. I walk everywhere or rid my bike everywhere. I very much focus on having zero food waste in my orbit. Sarah Wilson:  (28:42) So there's various things I do, but, equally, and there's families, people out there, we all have our thing where we're unable to shift it. Some families obviously can't get rid of their car because life it set up around schools, especially up where you live, schools are 20 kilometres away, pretty much everything's 20 kilometres away. So that's got to be borne in mind. We live in this world, this world was created by us all, and we need to be forgiving of that. And I've got a phrase that I've worked to and over the summer a lot of people were going, "What do we do? What's one solution?" And it kind of plays into what you were saying earlier. We think that we can just go and buy a solution off the shelf, that somebody's magically going to come along with the fix and, oh, well, let's all go and buy it and we'll all be good. And that's a neoliberal system, right? Tahnee:   (29:33) Yeah, sure is. Sarah Wilson:  (29:38) And it's a lot more complex than that. It requires uproot of a systemic change, et cetera, et cetera. But what I have said to people, instead of a one size fits all salve that we can all talk to is we do everything we can. Now, everything that you can do or one of your listeners can do is going to look different to everything I can do, but it's very different to saying, "Oh, we do our bit," or, "I do my bit to make a bit of a difference." That's not going to be good enough. The only thing that's going to cut it is that we do everything that we can do. And so I can't decide what that is. It's a very much moral assessment we're all going to have to make, and if we are starting to discuss this issue through a moral lens, through an ethical lens, through a spiritual lens, we can start to make those decisions for ourselves. Sarah Wilson:  (30:27) At the moment, we don't have any dialogue around it. We only have the dialogue of, "Oh, we buy our way to green consumption," or, "We just feel really guilty about it and," I don't know, "go and play a video game, or get outraged on Twitter and flick through Netflix," you know what I mean? So I think, yeah, I mean, we live in this world, we all do. We've got to be forgiving of that, but we must do everything we can and we will start to feel enlivened, and of best service, and least anxious when we do everything we can. Tahnee:   (31:08) And that really makes me think of the dharma of each of us having something unique and powerful we can [crosstalk 00:31:15] without needing it to be like anybody else's. Like, I can do certain things that you can't do and vice versa, and we'll each make our unique ... And I guess if we're talking tapestry again, we all have to contribute ... Or even a jigsaw puzzle's maybe a better analogy, but we all have to [crosstalk 00:31:30]. Sarah Wilson:  (31:30) Yeah. Pema Chodron's got a really lovely ... And I know you're a big fan of her work. She's got a lovely phrase, which I like, which is, "Start where you are." She doesn't [inaudible 00:31:41] to be more complex than, simply, if you're a school teacher, start making the changes within your area of expertise and just start tomorrow with your kids in your class. If you are a stay at home dad, start where you are. And she actually uses that phrase to say, "Start where you are with your pain point." So, say, if you're lonely, or if you're anxious or whatever it is, that is your fractured space from which to grow and go to your edge, you know? Tahnee:   (32:17) [inaudible 00:32:17]. Sarah Wilson:  (32:18) Yeah. And so not only does it fulfil my kind of mantra, which is, "Come on, don't use excuses, let's fire up," but it also means that it gets rid of that overwhelming feeling, that, "Oh, God, I've got to somehow start up a charity and I've got to be perfectly happy and settled in my life before I can be of service." Nope. It's actually you're going to be of best service when you're a hot mess, you know? A hot mess struggling with it all and you start to ask the interesting questions, you know? And I think that that is actually a really relieving kind of way of looking at things.   Tahnee:   (32:58) When I think you've been an entrepreneur, and this is something that I get really frustrated with in these entrepreneury, hacky kind of circles because I'm like [crosstalk 00:33:05] of business and stuff that these strategies work really well for climate crisis. Like, I'm a mum, I run a business, I have no idea what I'm doing half the time, every project feels too big and overwhelming. I just show up every day and do something, and it all gets done, you know? And it's every single one of us can bring that same kind of like ... Anytime you start a business, you have no idea what's going to happen. It's a complete gamble. It's a complete risk. You probably, 90% of the time, fall flat on your face. It's cool. Sarah Wilson:  (33:32) Yeah. I'd love to see some of these life hackers with their podcasts on how to be as productive as all hell and making the rest of us feel as though we're somehow failing. I'd love to see them return some of their beautiful truisms towards the climate movement. But, anyway, that's a separate discussion. Tahnee:   (33:50) But, no, I think, yeah, look, that's something I think about a lot because we're all in this betterment culture, and I think especially being where both of us have come through, you know, you've come through fashion as well, and the wellness industry, and it's like it's all about being better, but it's in this really narrow kind of sphere. And it's the same with business. It's like, "Oh, I'm a really good business person," and something I love, Ken Wilber talks about lines of development and this opportunity we all have to develop along multiple strands, instead of just being super great in one area. And I see a lot of the skills people are developing could be really powerful. Sarah Wilson:  (34:27) I agree. I went on a podcast with Russell Brand, and he was asking me [crosstalk 00:34:31]. Tahnee:   (34:31) He's living Mullumbimby and we're all chasing him everywhere. Sarah Wilson:  (34:31) I know. I know he's up that way. But I did a podcast with him over in London a little while back, and he was asking me a bit about all of this. We were talking about a similar subject. And I was just sort of saying one of my frustrations is that the wellness/spiritual community often sort of say, "Oh, look, I'm not into politics. I don't get involved in it. I don't read the newspaper and- Tahnee:   (34:56) Gandhi! Sarah Wilson:  (34:57) Yes, I know. Yes, one word, Gandhi, or Jesus, or, you know? The spiritual has always been political. Always. We have spiritual uprisings when the political situation is so dire, nothing but spiritual tradition can lead the way. And this is something ... I mean, I basically believe, right now, if you're a yoga teacher or you're a meditation instructor or whatever, this is your moment. Tahnee:   (35:29) Totally, yeah. Sarah Wilson:  (35:30) And it's not the time to run from it and go and buy another pair of leggings that leach microplastics into the ocean, or wear a T-shirt into your class that says, "There is no planet B," while drinking a green smoothie from a disposable cup, you know? It's like the time to lead by example and to live out all the teachings that Buddha or the vedic tradition have taught us, you know? This is it. This is our moment. So that's something that I'm very frustrated with, is I don't see that kind of rally call catching on. Tahnee:   (36:10) But I think it's a really easy thing to bypass. Sarah Wilson:  (36:13) Mm-hmm (affirmative). Tahnee:   (36:13) The Gita's a great example, which is actually, maybe argumentatively, but its kind of what Christ's teachings were based on, and this idea of you have to go to war for what is right, you know? This character is asked by Krishna to go to war and to fight the demons. And this a spiritual text. It's one of the most famous [crosstalk 00:36:38]. And it's- Sarah Wilson:  (36:38) Yeah. We've cherry picked all the bits that we like. Tahnee:   (36:42) [crosstalk 00:36:42]. Sarah Wilson:  (36:43) We've cherry picked all the dreamy rainbows and unicorns, right, and we've left aside the stuff that is the real meaty stuff of every spiritual tradition, which is fight for rightness, you know? So, look, we're on the same page here, and it's taken me a while to work out that that's what's been going on, that we all sit there and we meditate and we go to yoga to feel really at one with our bodies. Well, hang on, what about being at one with the planet, and each other, and the oneness of life, you know? And that's what we've kind of literally, as you say, bypassed it. We've cherry picked spiritualism to the point that all that's left is this kind of numbed out, dreamy, spiritual goddessy type Narnia, you know? Tahnee:   (37:39) Don't get me started on that crap, but anyway.... Point about ... Because this is something that comes up for me a lot around what I hear and what I see, and it's this all is love, and, I mean, God bless where I live, but Byron Shire is... Sarah Wilson:  (37:53) Oh, yeah. I used to live up there. I lived up that was for a year and a half. Tahnee:   (37:56) Oh, yeah, you lived in the shed, I remember. Sarah Wilson:  (37:58) Yes, the army shed. Yeah, just outside Byron. Tahnee:   (38:00) I did a [inaudible 00:38:00] up here, actually, because he used to write about riding to the farmers market... Sarah Wilson:  (38:04) Yeah, that's it. Tahnee:   (38:06) Yeah, but that idea, I think, where we haven't actually had an experience of that, but we talk about these things as if we believe them, which is fine, that's a pathway to experiencing them, I think, but that's when this altruism and stuff comes in. It's like if you go and do karma yoga, if you are of service to people, if you ... Like, Gandhi, he had one robe for winter, one robe for summer, he walked everywhere. All he did was give, and give, and give, and it was one of the most transformative lifetimes of any human, and that's being one with everything, you know? It's like being really able to give yourself freely, and that's what all these traditions teach. They say clear out all the bullshit, so you can actually be non-judgmental and be non-critical, and do what you need to do in life, which that's the call for all of us, I think, and-   Sarah Wilson:  (39:02) That's right, that's right. And I think it's hard for people listening, perhaps, to go, "Oh, gosh, I kind of agree with this in my heart and I agree with it in principle." It's a really hard thing to know what it is that's stopping us from behaving that way, and my one answer to that is the neoliberal system. We've got a system which has basically put the individual on the pedestal, and whenever you're on a pedestal, it's also very easy to be knocked down, so as soon as things go wrong, whether it's the coronavirus, whether it's the climate, whatever it might be, all of a sudden, well, responsibility's on us, right? We as individuals have to fix it because that's the neoliberal model. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, just work harder. Sarah Wilson:  (39:54) Now, that works all very well when things are going well, but when things go wrong, all of a sudden, we can't cope on our own like this. It's just too much. We need the collective, we need to come together, and that's where the neoliberalism fails us. So that's another area that we need to start discussing. We need to start seeing that we're all caught up in these cycles. We all get caught up in not being able to go to yoga until we have the right pair of yoga leggings, and the right water bottle, and the right this, and the right that, and we think, as you said, we keep buying our way. We go and do another course and pay for somebody else to tell us what the answer is, and that's a discussion we need to really, really have, is pull apart that thinking. Sarah Wilson:  (40:38) And it's a big one, and, as I say, it took me three years to write this book. Trying to unpack it all and then reduce it from several hundred thousand words down to a readable length. So, yeah, I think we should not underestimate what a whopping great topic this is, but, hey, how much fun is it to pull it apart? Tahnee:   (40:59) Well, and think the place you're taking it from is that soul journey is kind of connecting in a different ... I mean, I haven't read the new book, obviously, but I can feel that there's a sense of if we bring it into our inner space and our inner truth and we can all connect on that level, then it takes us out of that kind of ego individual, like me over here protecting what's mine kind of thing, which is-   Sarah Wilson:  (41:24) Oh, yeah. We're so bored of that as well. Tahnee:   (41:26) Yeah. And, I mean, that just keeps sort of ... Like, I'm even watching with all the coronavirus stuff and just the way first there was all the racism, and now we're kind of in this, you know, I guess every day is an unknown at the moment, but you can just feel how people ... Like, people fighting over toilet paper in the aisles and [crosstalk 00:41:43] supermarket [crosstalk 00:41:43]. Sarah Wilson:  (41:43) Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's no better symbol, is there? There's no better symbol for what we're talking about than people reacting to their very valid fear and overwhelm, and the lack of leadership and guidance on all of this, the lack of community coming togetherness. Then the idea of running out and thinking that we can solve it by having more toilet ... I really don't know what toilet paper's going to do, you know? And, honestly- Tahnee:   (42:14) I haven't been able to work that one out of like ... And the whole [inaudible 00:42:16] like chickpeas or, I don't know, like, something [crosstalk 00:42:18]. Sarah Wilson:  (42:18) I know, I know. Spaghetti or something. But it does show just how fragmented we are, how disconnected we are, how out of whack we are when we go and do this, you know? I mean, we're buying toilet paper because other people are buying toilet paper and it's sort of everybody out for themselves, dog eat dog. That's what we've resorted to, and it's really disappointing us because that isn't the entirety of our nature. There is an element of our nature that is that, but throughout history, we've had community leaders, spiritual guidance that has actually veered us away from our worst tendencies in that way, mostly to keep us alive. We need the tribe, you know? Sarah Wilson:  (43:03) I mean, a virus is the perfect example, right? We need the tribe to come together, and we need to all agree that we're going to wash our hands and cover our mouths when we cough. Tahnee:   (43:13) Yeah. And [inaudible 00:43:15] and all the basic stuff, yeah. Sarah Wilson:  (43:16) Yeah. So we need to, as individuals, do these things, so that the collective can be saved, and we are not used to doing that. We're used to just making sure we're okay by buying toilet paper. Tahnee:   (43:26) Well, [inaudible 00:43:26], there's this sense that people are waiting for it to be fixed, you know? Like, I've been talking to people as I go around town and stuff, and like, "Oh, it'll get sorted out soon." I'm like, "By who? By us?" Because we're the ones that are going to have to sort it out. And I feel it's analogist to the climate crisis. It's like all the bushfires are gone now. Like, we've had months of rain, which has been great for the dams and everything, but I'm like, "It's not over. We can't pretend now that [crosstalk 00:43:51] rain and it's done. It's like we've got to keep remembering that these things ... I mean, I've been going to ... I did environment science at university when I was ... So I'm 35. When I was 18 I started. And it's like we were going to rallies and chaining ourselves to trees and stuff then, and it's like nothing has changed. We're in a worse situation, if anything [inaudible 00:44:10]. And it's just like, until everyone collectively starts to wake up, I guess, is ... Sarah Wilson:  (44:19) Yeah. Tahnee:   (44:19) Yeah. I'm curious though when you look at self care. Because this is something, when I was talking about the fact that I was going to interview you, people were kind of curious because you've obviously done a lot with food and kind of, I guess, wellness stuff, like you had that great series in the Sunday Mail, I think it was, with all the interviews with- Sarah Wilson:  (44:40) A Sunday magazine, in the Sun Herald and so on, yeah. Tahnee:   (44:46) Yeah. And I remember reading that actually and I was really enjoying it, but, yeah, you kind of have been walking around in this area for a while [inaudible 00:44:53]. So do you have tenets of self care that you do use [crosstalk 00:44:59] products. Sarah Wilson:  (45:00) Yeah, I do. I do have a few non-negotiables. As you say, I've been in the how to make your life better kind of space pretty much my entire career, one way or another. But, yeah, I guess I have drilled down to some stuff that actually works across all realms, business, health, and also life. Yeah, making the planet stick around for another couple of generations. But, yeah, so what works for me, and the great news is they're pretty much free, all of them. Free. Sarah Wilson:  (45:30) It goes against the neoliberal model, but there you go, should we be surprised? So, for me ... And they're all backed with science and very substantial science. So the first thing would be I have a morning routine, in part because stuff I do in the morning sets me up for the day, but it's also about omitting decisions. So decision making happens in the same part of the brain that controls anxiety, and if we overtax our decision making part of the brain, we get anxious, and so that's why you hear about all these life hackers who wear the same outfit and have the same boring breakfast every day. It's so that they don't have to make those kinds of decisions in the morning in particular. Sarah Wilson:  (46:07) So, for me, my morning routine also includes exercise in the morning. I've got a whole range of health complaints, which are able to be managed by getting oxygen through my lungs and just moving my body. So I'm not a fitness nut by any stretch, but I exercise every single day. And then, of course, I walk or ride. I'm just moving all day, every day. I meditate for 20 minutes, and I don't confess to be a good meditator. I'm very vocal on being a crap meditator, but that in itself is a practise, like never ever be scared [crosstalk 00:46:41]. Tahnee:   (46:41) [crosstalk 00:46:41] a good mediator. Sarah Wilson:  (46:42) Oh, I never believe anyone who says they are. Tahnee:   (46:46) [crosstalk 00:46:46] oh, it's still very hard. Sarah Wilson:  (46:47) Yeah, that's right. And the whole point is become, actually ... The whole point of mediation is to take that nice stillness into the rest of your life. Well, when you're a shit meditator, basically you're constantly having to bring yourself back to the breath or the mantra, more so than a good meditator, and so that sort of muscle of coming back, coming back to yourself, coming back to the truth, coming back to the oneness, you have to practise that far more, and so that muscle gets really quite developed. So that's one of the benefits of being a bad mediator. Sarah Wilson:  (47:20) So I do those things. Not eating sugar is really non-negotiable as well from a whole range of points of view. It's a great through line to simple, effective eating. When you don't eat sugar, you don't eat processed food because 80, 90% of processed food contains added sugar. So essentially means you've got to buy real food and you've got to cook it, and when you do that, you're a lot more engaged in things like food waste, making sure that you buy good quality ingredients. You cut out all the other crap, bad oils, et cetera. And so it just kind of is a win, win, win, and it cascades. Sarah Wilson:  (48:00) So in terms of having a one thing that you can do, cutting out sugar is a really great way of doing it. I still eat sugar, but it sort of manages to sit within what are considered the world guidelines, six teaspoons of added sugar a day. My body, naturally, that's what it can handle, and if I go over that, I've trained my body now that it reacts. It goes, "Nup, this is not great," you know? So that would be definitely part of it. I guess more recently, I've had to also have practises about being round good people, and by good people, I actually do mean people who are active in the climate movement because I find it very difficult if I'm around people who don't want to wake up.   Sarah Wilson:  (48:50) Now, my work is about being in the mainstream having these conversations, and so, for me, it's kind of particular. I do need to be around a tribe who know the language, who can support me in my feelings and we can talk at that level. And that is really important for anybody in the activist space or any kind of space where you're talking about tricky stuff. Yeah, they would be the ... Oh, and the other big one is going into nature. So, for me, I mean, there's been countless studies, something like 40,000 studies to show the effect of just walking among trees. So all kinds of things.   Sarah Wilson:  (49:31) My favourite studies point to the fact that, firstly, walking goes at the same pace as discerning thought, and I think a lot of our culture's ills comes from the fact that we don't think reflectively. And then, also, the walking mechanism, again, developed in the same old, really gnarly, fusty part of the brain that controls anxiety. So when you walk, it actually can modulate and it can shut down anxiety. So the left, right motion actually distracts us away from anxiety, and anyone who's a regular walker, I mean, knows that the anxiety just dissipates straight away. Sarah Wilson:  (50:12) So, yeah, walking, but walking in nature are things that I do daily, and then weekly or fortnightly, I make sure I get out to a forest and just bush land around Sydney or wherever I am in the world, I just get out and walk. And all of those practises are free. They're readily available, and, what do you know? They also stop you from shopping. Whenever you're out hiking on a Sunday, you can't go to a mall. Tahnee:   (50:41) Because I love your green shorts as an analogy for, you know- Sarah Wilson:  (50:45) Yeah, a symbol. Tahnee:   (50:46) Yeah, like we don't ... Yeah, sorry, [inaudible 00:50:49] a symbol for we don't do a lot of things. Like, I teach yoga and I teach once a week, but I wear the same outfit every week. I'm like, "Why do I need a wardrobe of yoga clothes?" Sarah Wilson:  (50:56) Good. That's what's called being a leader, a spiritual leader is. I mean, it's just ... Sarah Wilson:  (51:02) Yeah, look, the green shorts is laziness. I mean, I live a life- Tahnee:   (51:06) [crosstalk 00:51:06] the stuff and, yeah. Sarah Wilson:  (51:09) Yeah. I mean, it's not like I go out and think, "I'm going to have a ... I mean, somebody bought me those green shorts 11 years ago, and I don't see any point in having other shorts, so, yeah. Tahnee:   (51:21) I mean, when you travel, are you travelling light in general anyway with luggage? Sarah Wilson:  (51:26) Yeah. Well, for eight years I travelled with one bag. I lived out of one bag, permanently. Tahnee:   (51:32) I remember you saying in the book, yeah. Sarah Wilson:  (51:34) Yeah. And then it soon reduced itself down to final six months of having a carry on bag, so this was about 15 kilos, and so I still just manage to live as light as that. I mean, it's very addictive, and once you realise you don't need certain things, you start to go, "Well, do I need this or do I need that?" And as I started to wear things out or use things up, I really questioned whether I needed a ... I mean, I've never owned a handbag in my life. I don't believe I need one, so I just haven't bought one. Tahnee:   (52:08) [crosstalk 00:52:08]. Sarah Wilson:  (52:08) I mean, I was the editor of Cosmo and didn't have a handbag, it is possible. So, yeah, and then I just realised I didn't need a car. I was happier riding my bike. A bike, especially in Sydney, is faster, it's more efficient, and I get my exercise in at the same time. So, yeah, it just sort of evolved as a way of ... I mean, I looked at things critically and went, "Do I really need that? Does it," in that sort of Maria Kondo way, "Does it bring me joy?" And most cases it didn't. I just kind of looked at it and went, "Oh, that's just something I've got to store somewhere or find a way to use," you know? Tahnee:   (52:52) So my final question is do you have any little secret things that you hoard? I'm a book hoarder. Sarah Wilson:  (52:57) Oh, okay. What do I hoard? I'm just looking- Tahnee:   (53:02) [crosstalk 00:53:02] that you just haven't been able to shed? Sarah Wilson:  (53:06) Oh, I'll tell you the one thing that I've carried with me all along is I've got this big box and it's got every single letter and postcard that anyone has ever written to me. So I've got stuff from my grandparents when I was five or six, and, yeah, it's quite lovely. I sometimes sit down and I just go through letters my great grandmother wrote to me, and I've got a little card that my nieces and nephews have written, and I suppose, yeah, I've always kept those things. That would probably be it. But, yeah, even with books, I pass them on, everything gets passed on, and I'm that sort of in, absorb, out, share is my motto, yeah. Tahnee:   (53:53) Well, we're really grateful for all the sharing you do because it's been really inspiring to all of us, and- Sarah Wilson:  (53:59) Oh, thank you. Tahnee:   (54:00) I'm going to wrap it up there just because I'm aware of your time. You're still on book deadline. But, yeah, I mean, I know many people will be interested. If you do want to see the green shorts, I realise some people will be like, "What are you talking about?" So [inaudible 00:54:12] Sarah's Instagram and I'm pretty sure they're on her blog as well. And, yeah, so people can find you there at sarahwilson.com, and- Sarah Wilson:  (54:20) Yeah, sarahwilson.com, and then I think if you just type in Sarah Wilson:  to Instagram, it comes up. Tahnee:   (54:26) Yeah, we'll link to everything in the show notes. Do you have specific websites for the beast or anything like that, or are they just [crosstalk 00:54:35]. Sarah Wilson:  (54:34) Oh, everything, you can find it all through sarahwilson.com. There's a books page and you can buy the books, the e-books and so on, and soon enough you'll be able to pre order my next book. Not quite yet, but soon for Australia. It comes out in the US in October. And it'll come out in the UK shortly after that. Tahnee:   (54:55) Okay, great. So we'll put links to all those as they go live. Sarah Wilson:  (54:57) Oh, thank you. Tahnee:   (54:58) Yeah, well, people tend to listen over years, we've learnt. It's quite exciting. And, yeah, I just wanted to say thank you so much for sharing. I feel like that was a really, for me, inspiring conversation, and kind of- Sarah Wilson:  (55:11) Thank you. Tahnee:   (55:11) Yeah. Sarah Wilson:  (55:12) Yeah, no, I enjoyed it, too, and, look, I also very much enjoy your SuperFeast products. I think those products are wonderful. Tahnee:   (55:19) Oh, thanks, yeah. We'll hopefully, one day, have the Australian versions, too. We'll see [crosstalk 00:55:26] unravels. Sarah Wilson:  (55:26) [crosstalk 00:55:26]. Tahnee:   (55:26) I want to quote Seth Godin, "make a ruckus, everybody". If you've found any of this inspiring, please feel free to connect to Sarah and myself, and we will [crosstalk 00:55:34] out there in the world. Sarah Wilson:  (55:36) Yeah. Fire up and be of service. Tahnee:   (55:39) Thanks, Sarah, so long. Sarah Wilson:  (55:40) My pleasure. We'll speak soon, Tahnee. Thank you.

Ami Assigal is many things. A business owner, a mother, a leader and a changemaker. But after so long juggling so many roles, and wrestling with a high achiever drive, Ami found herself at a place where she no longer knew who she was, what she wanted or what would fulfil her. She was stressed, anxious and permanently hustling for her worth - never taking the time to slow down and appreciate herself or her life. This is how we first connected with Ami in mid-2019 when she joined the BU movement as part of our Personal Development & Wellbeing Mastery Program. Nowadays Ami is proud of who she is, is ok with slowing down and has a much healthier relationship with her emotional wellbeing. The best part is Ami is still kicking massive goals and achieving great things in her life but now she is doing so from a place of fulfilment and self-love. On this debut episode of The Insider Scoop series, I sit down with Ami for the first time in person to find out more about the journey from her own perspective and to dive into how Ami is making an impact, starting with herself. In this episode we talk about: - Ami's changing relationship with the concept of failure - How Ami developing herself has helped her positively impact the lives of her children, her clients and those around her - An incredibly exciting opportunity that has arisen for Ami to positively change lives in another country. If you'd like to connect more with Ami and follow her journey you can do so via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ami-assigal/?originalSubdomain=au If you'd like to be a part of Hello my Tribe you can check them out here: https://www.hellomytribe.com/ MOST IMPORTANTLY MAKE SURE YOU SUPPORT AMI'S WORK IN GHANA HERE --> https://join.thp.org.au/fundraisers/amiassigal/business-chicks-ghana Other resources we mentioned during this episode are: - "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" by Steven Covey [book] - "First We Make the Beast Beautiful" by Sarah Wilson [book] - Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper: https://au.whogivesacrap.org/ As always it means the world to us when you SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW the show on whatever platform you're listening from. Thank you in advance.

Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times bestselling and #1 Amazon bestselling author. She’s a former journalist and editor of Cosmopolitan Australia and was the host of MasterChef Australia. She’s the founder of the I Quit Sugar movement and has published 15 sugar-free cookbooks which sell in 131 countries. The latest, Simplicious Flow, is the world’s first zero-waste cookbook. Her international bestseller first, we make the beast beautiful, reframes anxiety and bipolar disease through a philosophical and spiritual lens and became both a #1 Amazon bestseller and New York Times bestseller. Sarah ranks as one of the top 200 most influential authors in the world (2017 and 2018) and has a combined digital audience of 3 million. Sarah WilsonThe Guardian AustraliaThe Guardian USAClimate CouncilEmily AtkinMother JonesThe on being ProjectThrive GlobalHuffington Post HighlineThe New York TimesInsidersRadio National

Anxiety is something the girls both know a lot about, and something that affects almost everyone at some point in their life. First We Make the Beast Beautiful - Anxiety, by the fantastic Sarah Wilson is dense with information and her personal story. It's definitely worth a read. Instagram: @basicallybeingbetter Twitter: @beingbetterpod

Nothing winds up my anti-diet nutritionist guest Tara Leong more than the influencer-led anti-sugar movement. She is in FITS of rage - to the point of goosebumps - about the mountains of misinformation being spread as liberally as nut butter. She’s LIVID about harm being done to innocent people who are being told that they’ll risk giving their kids cancer if they eat bananas. She is OUTRAGED by the misleading tactics being used by these for-profit companies who aren’t able to print the truth on their nutrition labels. She is f***ed off about fructose. And don’t even get her STARTED on the fruit pyramid! Join us for a much needed discussion about the anti-sugar movement, Tara’s attempts to reach out to Australia’s anti-sugar guru Sarah Wilson, and Sarah’s foray into mental health advice. This is one hell of a conversation!     ShowNotes My guest is Tara Leong from The Nutritionist & The Chef, and she is fired up to the point of GOOSEBUMPS about the influencer-lead I Quit Sugar (IQS) trend! Sugar is definitely public enemy #1 right now, and this global sense of fear is impacting everyone, from all ages and all walks of life. We’ve seen various foods demonised over the years, from fats, to carbs, and now sugars. And leaders of these food fad movements have historically been weight loss gurus or medical professionals. But the anti-sugar trend seems to be dominated by “influencers” spruiking their lifestyle brands. There have been some medical professionals - like Dr Lustig who loves to crow about sugar. But in Australia, the shiny beautiful people, like Sarah Wilson, are really heading up the anti sugar movement. Tara commends Sarah for raising awareness about how we can take care of our bodies, but the messages put out via her “I Quit Sugar” social media channels and in the book “I Quit Sugar” are not based on science and are destructive, especially with regards to the impact these messages have on people’s relationship with food. The whole Sarah Wilson/“I Quit Sugar” phenomenon traces back to 2011. Sarah is a journalist and was the ex editor of Cosmopolitan magazine, back then she was a judge on the first season of Masterchef. After that she moved to Byron Bay and began to freelance, writing articles for newspapers. She literally didn’t have a topic for an article one week, and had read David Gillespie’s “Sweet Poison” book (Gillespie is a lawyer). So she did an experiment quitting sugar, wrote about it, and the “I Quit Sugar” machine was born. She started to sell e-books and from there it became a massive empire. She caught the Zeitgeist - just at the start of the anti-sugar climate. Plus, she’s pretty and can write well, and is well connected. This also came at the tail end of the low-fat movement, when research began to recognise that fat wasn’t actually a villain - so we needed a new villain. Enter sugar! Wellness industry 101: 1. Find the villain, 2. Find very vague modern health symptoms like ‘brain fog’ or ‘bloating’, and blame this on the villain, 3. Use your own vague health symptoms to glowing health story as ‘proof’, 4. Sell people a rule-based program to rid themselves of aforementioned villain. I Quit Sugar (IQS) requires people to stop eating any added sugars for 8 weeks. This was beautifully skewered on “The Katering Show”, 2 comedians with a parody cooking show who did a great job of showing, through comedy, just how awful it is to quit sugar. Modern influencers are using this tactic of telling their own stories, of sharing their own tales of ‘recovery’ from vague health symptoms, to sell their ideas. Influencers use their humanity, their accessibility, they are friendly and you feel like you know them. Whereas health professionals are discouraged from sharing their own stories with clients as it is not seens as ‘professional’, especially in psychology where the space is created for the client, not the psychologist. Influencers use their stories as aspirations, as hope - and of course, thinness! “If you eat like me, you’ll end up being like me as I eat zoodles on my $20000 table! Some of the claims in IQS are quite strange. Sarah talks about having Graves disease, and then later on, Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which pricked up Louise’s ears, as she has Hashimotos’. She is of the understanding that this condition is largely genetic, and no-one is really sure as to why it switches on. As someone with the condition, Louise has to take a pill every day and has blood tests every 3 months. It is not an easy condition to control - it is something that is always changing. Louise knows that what you eat has bugger all to do with developing Hashimotos’. But on IQS Sarah implies - strongly - that quitting sugar will cure it. Sarah’s claim that a change in her sugar consumption ‘cured’ it ignores the fact that she also takes medication to control it. This is a confound - you cannot claim that autoimmune disease can be cured by not eating sugar if you’re taking meds at the same time. If you want to promote eating in a way that makes you feel good, there’s no issue. But if you want to demonise one thing - ie sugar - there’s an issue! Tara also recognises the wonderful array of nutrients that can be excluded when you promote something as stringent as IQS. A while ago, Tara found a very fancy looking ‘fruit pyramid’ which was presented in a similar way to the old ‘food pyramid’ which used to be promoted as a way to eat. A pyramid is where foods on the bottom are ‘eat lot’ and foods on the top are don’t eat’, or ‘eat very little of’. So the team at IQS developed a fruit hierarchy, and at the top there were bananas! And the fruits you can eat ‘every day’ are berries! Raspberries, lemons & avocados. Now Tara needs to unpack this. Firstly, avocados are not a fruit. Botanically, yes, but not nutritionally - they don’t provide carbohydrates, they provide more fats. Who’s going to slice up a lemon for a tasty snack?! “I really struggle with the ethics of telling people they can only eat raspberries”. Tara calculated that for a family of 4, in order to meet nutritional requirements, a family of 4 would spend around $250 per week on raspberries alone. This is privileged, ridiculous nonsense. To not have even thought of things like expense? And the comments from people thanking IQS for telling them that bananas were dangerous. Tara had a heartbreaking message from a mum who was having a huge panic attack because she was so worried she’s given her kids cancer. The no. 1 pathway into an eating disorder nowadays, for Louise’s clients anyway, is this huge fear of foods and what are considered ‘healthy’ foods. The pro-IQS community really seem to disregard the risk of eating disorder development. Like it’s ‘not a thing’. In preparation for this podcast, Louise has been reading Sarah Wilson’s latest book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful”. This is her story and she really is open about her lifelong mental health struggles. In it she reveals she had a childhood diagnosis of severe anxiety and insomnia, in her teens severe OCD, and then bulimia, and then bipolar disorder. Louise admires Sarah for writing such a raw and real book about the reality of living with severe mental illness. She is clearly a very intelligent person. But you can see the anxiety in the pages. You can see the pressure of the bipolar. So here is the ethical question - should authors with diagnoses such as these be giving full disclosure before giving out ‘dietary advice’? Especially when one of the diagnoses is an eating disorder? So here we are in the land of the ‘influencer’. Sarah is a journalist who has gone & obtained a health coaching ‘credential’ with the Institute of Integrative Nutrition in New York. Tara has something to say about this Institute. This Institute looks pretty impressive. On their website it says you can study for 6 months and get the health coaching certificate. But you don’t study physiology, chemistry, or anatomy. You just study all the different types of diets out there and whether or not they’re ‘good’. “If I was running an Institute where I’m comparing diets I’d be like - let’s close, because none of them work”! So the degree should be - everything doesn’t work. Here’s your piece of paper! Go out & tell everyone why your diet won’t work - how good would that be! Tara has found that the IQS people always claim that it’s not a diet. They always claim that it’s not restrictive. But Tara cannot fathom how telling someone to cut out a whole food source for 8 weeks is not restrictive? Modern diet culture tells people, if you’re not counting calories it’s not a diet. The recipes are interesting, often full of rice malt syrup, which is of course, sugar. For a while, Louise remembers seeing a whole row of IQS baking products - cakes etc - in the supermarket. And they got in trouble for not being honest on their labels about how much sugar was in them. They only wrote down the sugar content before the rice malt syrup was added, which is of course totally misleading for consumers.* Tara finds this highly unethical & wonders how this was able to happen according to Australian laws surrounding nutrition panels. Rice malt syrup is sugar derived from rice. It does not contain fructose, but it is definitely still sugar. Louise went into a book shop to read IQS. There was a whole page on why you have to quit sugar: because of fructose. So what’s the deal with fructose? Fructose is found naturally in fruit. In the USA, it is manufactured from corn, resulting in what is called high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). This is a highly concentrated version of fructose. This is put into soft drink, in the USA - not in Australia. We use sugar cane syrup, so the fructose is at much lower levels of concentration. Research on the health issues linking consumption of HFCS has been done mostly on rats and mice, and they have been exposed to mega-doses of HFCS in these experiments. So we cannot say that the health problems are happening because of the HFCS or just the mega dose. We could all develop health problems if we mega dosed on broccoli! We also can’t generalise rodent studies to human health. So the problem we have is someone not trained in physiology reads these studies and jumps to enormous conclusions. Just because some American rats OD’d on high fructose corn syrup doesn’t mean we shouldn’t eat bananas! Most of the people spouting the IQS ideas are not adequately qualified or trained in the science of nutrition. There are some medical people talking about it, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. Many influencers are not reading the research thoroughly or just cherry picking research that supports their ideas, which is not in the spirit of science! Nutrition science is hard, and complex. The relationship between our health and what we eat is confounded by many factors. One important aspect which is never spoken about by these influencers are issues like poverty, oppression, and even the impact of dieting itself, and the anxiety and food guilt created by such nervous attention to food. What Tara doesn’t like is when a professional such as herself speaks up - in a calm manner - to enquire about the harm being potentially done - and they don’t engage. So with the fruit pyramid issue, Tara politely enquired if the IQS people could share with her the research to support the pyramid. They responded by saying there is ‘lots out there’, but also said that the IQS program is not based on science but a “gentle experiment”. This is mind blowing - telling people they can’t eat bananas, telling them to eat only expensive fruits, charging people $99 for this program, making promises to reduce weight and depression - but none of it is based on science? Tara cannot fathom how that is ok to do that to people. “You can’t give a rigid rule and then call it a gentle experiment” - that’s gaslighting. This is modern diet culture. Everything’s exactly the same. We’ve still got the rigid rules, we’ve still got the ‘this is the way to diet’. Except we’re no longer allowed to call it a diet, or pursue weight loss. We’ve got to talk about wellness or healing really ill defined things. And then use the language of self compassion to turn this into something loving and gentle. And its really not! So, IQS is huge - it has made millions of dollars. Last year Sarah decided to shut the IQS company and move on. She’s very much into the environment etc, reducing food waste. And she’s written the book, First, we Make the Beast Beautiful, a very detailed account of her complex mental health issues. And the question is, should she have disclosed this while she was selling IQS? Louise can understand why she wouldn’t have, this is very personal and private information. But if someone has a history of severe mental illness and an eating disorder, jumping on the food advice bandwagon is, in Louise’s opinion, of concern. In a recent article from the UK, Sarah was interviewed by a reported who had an eating disorder background herself, and the interview did not go well for Sarah. Through the reporter’s eyes, Sarah presented as someone who still had eating issues. And the interview did claim that Sarah had given up on quitting sugar, a claim which Sarah has since vehemently denied. Sarah has claimed she was misquoted, and IQS has done an interview with Sarah to present her side. Tara contacted Sarah on social media to ask her if she had quit the IQS movement, and also put some questions to her regarding the potential harm that IQS has caused. Sarah then posted that she had been bullied by Tara, and by the journalist. She also said that someone with mental health issues should never be bullied. Tara then apologised, and asked for clarification about what Sarah felt had been misquoted in the article. She offered Sarah the opportunity to detail what was wrong about the article and said she would share this with her followers in order to clear it up. She gave Sarah her phone, email and other contact numbers. But she did not respond, and actually went offline for a couple of days. Tara can see how this would have been hard for Sarah - being questioned in public, on social media, about your philosophy, is not easy. Tara gets it: she has her own lived experience with PTSD, and close family members are experiencing severe mental health issues. But Tara does not think this means it is ok to hide accountability behind. She believes it may be a reason, but not an excuse. This has not been easy for Tara either - many in her profession have commended her for having the guts to speak up, some have questioned her. But she doesn’t do it for ‘reputation’ - she does it for her clients. When you see such large numbers of people being harmed by the IQS messages, it’s impossible to stay quiet. It’s not about herself. It’s about all of the people out there who are suffering, and using her voice to stick up for them. "Sometimes I feel like I have an ethical duty to speak up for the general public". In the book, it is clear that Sarah has a big heart, and a big brain. She is genuinely trying to help people, and herself. It’s not easy to live with bipolar disorder, severe anxiety, OCD. But in the book Sarah also talks about being diagnosed with an eating disorder - bulimia - and for that, she has not had treatment. She has had all kinds of treatment for her anxiety. But not for the eating issues, which are very much absent from an otherwise very thorough exploration of her mental health. Louise is a biased too, with her eating disorder hat on, but surely that aspect of mental health has to come into this too? Understanding anxiety is important, and an eating disorder for many people is a way of controlling anxiety by controlling food. Sarah talks frequently about her anxiety as a constant grasping at things to give her a sense of safety in the world. So you can see how controlling what she eats, and having clear lists of foods to eat, could control her anxiety. This kind of connection is not made in the book. And for Louise, it’s a missing piece. People writing self help books are in a position of power. It’s not ok to put responsibility back into the lap of the consumer! Tara has copped criticism for calling Sarah out on this topic, even from fellow health professionals. But she asks: where do we draw the line? Do people have carte blanche to just say anything they like, and then withdraw responsibility by citing poor mental health? We’re grappling now with this question, if someone has a mental health issue can they say anything, cause harm, and that’s ok? Trump’s feelings are also potentially hurt, but people are much less upset about it! Is this a gender thing? What would have happened if it was Paleo Pete coming out with a history of severe mental health issues!? We don’t have the answers, but it is important to have this conversation. Tara has reflected and learned a lot from this experience. Maybe Sarah Wilson has, who knows? Tara’s hope is that if a nutrition professional reaches out to an influencer, they’ll at least listen and have that conversation. If Tara was told that some of her advice had caused harm, she’d be concerned and working at understanding the situation and make sure it doesn’t happen again. But we don’t see this with influencers. The Paleo Pete disaster when he wanted to publish a book with a ‘bone broth’ recipe for babies that was so dangerous it could cause death. Pete was contacted by hundreds of health professionals and organisations pleading with him not to do harm. So he self published the book anyway! Wouldn’t you at some stage check in with yourself? Or just blatantly double down? It reflects the strength of these people’s belief in their nutrition camps. Throughout Sarah’s book is peppered this assumption that sugar is bad. She even tells people that in order to fully recover from anxiety, you definitely need to quit sugar! And that’s not an interpretation, it’s down there in her book, in black & white. “You need to quit sugar. Down to 6-9 teaspoons a day”. That’s not a gentle experiment! This is written in a book for people who are living with anxiety. Because this comes from her belief system, in which anxiety is either caused or worsened by fructose, the book has all of these ideas which are very damaging and could ultimately increase people’s food anxiety. That fear of sugar will create or exacerbate the anxiety which the book is apparently all about alleviating. No-one with an eating disorder can read this book. Also, no one in a larger body can read this book - it’s very fat phobic. There is research on gut health to show that plant foods with lots of fibre can improve our gut health, and that can be linked to mental health. When you quit sugar, you likely eat more plant foods, and that increase is what’s responsible for any improvements, rather than the absence of sugar per say. In intuitive eating, it’s all about adding foods, not taking them away. What’s annoying is this increasing normalising of sugar as a bad thing across our society. Kids are picking up on it. Tara’s 5 year old daughter did a lesson in class on how much sugar was in a can of coke! She’s 5! The world that Tara & I live in - we work in the intensive care ward for eating concerns - and we are seeing people flood in, casualties of the anti-sugar crusade. Sugar is the “devil right now’, and as health professionals it is ok that we are concerned. We’re not picking on any 1 person, we’re talking about figureheads of a movement. We need to remember who we’re trying to protect. It’s our kids. Tara hopes that the influencers can see that nutrition professionals are genuinely helping people - we see genuine concern, genuine problems. Tara is not just a schill for Big Sugar! Tara was asked by “The Conversation” to write an article about the dangers of sugar. Instead, she wrote an article about the dangers of always talking about sugar in a negative way. It ended up being one of the most read articles The Conversation had ever published. Tara was blasted by anti-sugar people for ‘giving people diabetes’. All because she used her scientific knowledge to suggest a much less extreme approach to sugar. And of course people suggested she’s been paid off by “Big Sugar” to write the article. She wasn’t! Good things can happen when people push back and ask questions - for example at the end of last year, the Dietitians Association of Australia stopped taking funding from big food companies. But this absolute demonisation of one food group is just ill advised and short sighted. Resources: Find out more about Tara Leong, including her fabulous anti-diet merchandise, here. The wonderful Katering Show & its wonderful IQS satire The bizarre IQS Fruit Pyramid: The now-closed “I Quit Sugar” empire, which still sells the books etc. Sarah Wilson’s book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful” *Here is the article about the misleading food labels on the IQS range - note that the products were not actually removed from shelves, but they were discussed as misleading. The Daily Mail article by Eve Simmons claiming that Sarah Wilson had quit quitting sugar (strongly contested by Sarah Wilson) Paleo Pete & his baby killing bone broth Tara’s amazing article in The Conversation about the dangers of talking about sugar as the new devil  

Nothing winds up my anti-diet nutritionist guest Tara Leong more than the influencer-led anti-sugar movement. She is in FITS of rage - to the point of goosebumps - about the mountains of misinformation being spread as liberally as nut butter. She’s LIVID about harm being done to innocent people who are being told that they’ll risk giving their kids cancer if they eat bananas. She is OUTRAGED by the misleading tactics being used by these for-profit companies who aren’t able to print the truth on their nutrition labels. She is f***ed off about fructose. And don’t even get her STARTED on the fruit pyramid! Join us for a much needed discussion about the anti-sugar movement, Tara’s attempts to reach out to Australia’s anti-sugar guru Sarah Wilson, and Sarah’s foray into mental health advice. This is one hell of a conversation!     ShowNotes My guest is Tara Leong from The Nutritionist & The Chef, and she is fired up to the point of GOOSEBUMPS about the influencer-lead I Quit Sugar (IQS) trend! Sugar is definitely public enemy #1 right now, and this global sense of fear is impacting everyone, from all ages and all walks of life. We’ve seen various foods demonised over the years, from fats, to carbs, and now sugars. And leaders of these food fad movements have historically been weight loss gurus or medical professionals. But the anti-sugar trend seems to be dominated by “influencers” spruiking their lifestyle brands. There have been some medical professionals - like Dr Lustig who loves to crow about sugar. But in Australia, the shiny beautiful people, like Sarah Wilson, are really heading up the anti sugar movement. Tara commends Sarah for raising awareness about how we can take care of our bodies, but the messages put out via her “I Quit Sugar” social media channels and in the book “I Quit Sugar” are not based on science and are destructive, especially with regards to the impact these messages have on people’s relationship with food. The whole Sarah Wilson/“I Quit Sugar” phenomenon traces back to 2011. Sarah is a journalist and was the ex editor of Cosmopolitan magazine, back then she was a judge on the first season of Masterchef. After that she moved to Byron Bay and began to freelance, writing articles for newspapers. She literally didn’t have a topic for an article one week, and had read David Gillespie’s “Sweet Poison” book (Gillespie is a lawyer). So she did an experiment quitting sugar, wrote about it, and the “I Quit Sugar” machine was born. She started to sell e-books and from there it became a massive empire. She caught the Zeitgeist - just at the start of the anti-sugar climate. Plus, she’s pretty and can write well, and is well connected. This also came at the tail end of the low-fat movement, when research began to recognise that fat wasn’t actually a villain - so we needed a new villain. Enter sugar! Wellness industry 101: 1. Find the villain, 2. Find very vague modern health symptoms like ‘brain fog’ or ‘bloating’, and blame this on the villain, 3. Use your own vague health symptoms to glowing health story as ‘proof’, 4. Sell people a rule-based program to rid themselves of aforementioned villain. I Quit Sugar (IQS) requires people to stop eating any added sugars for 8 weeks. This was beautifully skewered on “The Katering Show”, 2 comedians with a parody cooking show who did a great job of showing, through comedy, just how awful it is to quit sugar. Modern influencers are using this tactic of telling their own stories, of sharing their own tales of ‘recovery’ from vague health symptoms, to sell their ideas. Influencers use their humanity, their accessibility, they are friendly and you feel like you know them. Whereas health professionals are discouraged from sharing their own stories with clients as it is not seens as ‘professional’, especially in psychology where the space is created for the client, not the psychologist. Influencers use their stories as aspirations, as hope - and of course, thinness! “If you eat like me, you’ll end up being like me as I eat zoodles on my $20000 table! Some of the claims in IQS are quite strange. Sarah talks about having Graves disease, and then later on, Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which pricked up Louise’s ears, as she has Hashimotos’. She is of the understanding that this condition is largely genetic, and no-one is really sure as to why it switches on. As someone with the condition, Louise has to take a pill every day and has blood tests every 3 months. It is not an easy condition to control - it is something that is always changing. Louise knows that what you eat has bugger all to do with developing Hashimotos’. But on IQS Sarah implies - strongly - that quitting sugar will cure it. Sarah’s claim that a change in her sugar consumption ‘cured’ it ignores the fact that she also takes medication to control it. This is a confound - you cannot claim that autoimmune disease can be cured by not eating sugar if you’re taking meds at the same time. If you want to promote eating in a way that makes you feel good, there’s no issue. But if you want to demonise one thing - ie sugar - there’s an issue! Tara also recognises the wonderful array of nutrients that can be excluded when you promote something as stringent as IQS. A while ago, Tara found a very fancy looking ‘fruit pyramid’ which was presented in a similar way to the old ‘food pyramid’ which used to be promoted as a way to eat. A pyramid is where foods on the bottom are ‘eat lot’ and foods on the top are don’t eat’, or ‘eat very little of’. So the team at IQS developed a fruit hierarchy, and at the top there were bananas! And the fruits you can eat ‘every day’ are berries! Raspberries, lemons & avocados. Now Tara needs to unpack this. Firstly, avocados are not a fruit. Botanically, yes, but not nutritionally - they don’t provide carbohydrates, they provide more fats. Who’s going to slice up a lemon for a tasty snack?! “I really struggle with the ethics of telling people they can only eat raspberries”. Tara calculated that for a family of 4, in order to meet nutritional requirements, a family of 4 would spend around $250 per week on raspberries alone. This is privileged, ridiculous nonsense. To not have even thought of things like expense? And the comments from people thanking IQS for telling them that bananas were dangerous. Tara had a heartbreaking message from a mum who was having a huge panic attack because she was so worried she’s given her kids cancer. The no. 1 pathway into an eating disorder nowadays, for Louise’s clients anyway, is this huge fear of foods and what are considered ‘healthy’ foods. The pro-IQS community really seem to disregard the risk of eating disorder development. Like it’s ‘not a thing’. In preparation for this podcast, Louise has been reading Sarah Wilson’s latest book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful”. This is her story and she really is open about her lifelong mental health struggles. In it she reveals she had a childhood diagnosis of severe anxiety and insomnia, in her teens severe OCD, and then bulimia, and then bipolar disorder. Louise admires Sarah for writing such a raw and real book about the reality of living with severe mental illness. She is clearly a very intelligent person. But you can see the anxiety in the pages. You can see the pressure of the bipolar. So here is the ethical question - should authors with diagnoses such as these be giving full disclosure before giving out ‘dietary advice’? Especially when one of the diagnoses is an eating disorder? So here we are in the land of the ‘influencer’. Sarah is a journalist who has gone & obtained a health coaching ‘credential’ with the Institute of Integrative Nutrition in New York. Tara has something to say about this Institute. This Institute looks pretty impressive. On their website it says you can study for 6 months and get the health coaching certificate. But you don’t study physiology, chemistry, or anatomy. You just study all the different types of diets out there and whether or not they’re ‘good’. “If I was running an Institute where I’m comparing diets I’d be like - let’s close, because none of them work”! So the degree should be - everything doesn’t work. Here’s your piece of paper! Go out & tell everyone why your diet won’t work - how good would that be! Tara has found that the IQS people always claim that it’s not a diet. They always claim that it’s not restrictive. But Tara cannot fathom how telling someone to cut out a whole food source for 8 weeks is not restrictive? Modern diet culture tells people, if you’re not counting calories it’s not a diet. The recipes are interesting, often full of rice malt syrup, which is of course, sugar. For a while, Louise remembers seeing a whole row of IQS baking products - cakes etc - in the supermarket. And they got in trouble for not being honest on their labels about how much sugar was in them. They only wrote down the sugar content before the rice malt syrup was added, which is of course totally misleading for consumers.* Tara finds this highly unethical & wonders how this was able to happen according to Australian laws surrounding nutrition panels. Rice malt syrup is sugar derived from rice. It does not contain fructose, but it is definitely still sugar. Louise went into a book shop to read IQS. There was a whole page on why you have to quit sugar: because of fructose. So what’s the deal with fructose? Fructose is found naturally in fruit. In the USA, it is manufactured from corn, resulting in what is called high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). This is a highly concentrated version of fructose. This is put into soft drink, in the USA - not in Australia. We use sugar cane syrup, so the fructose is at much lower levels of concentration. Research on the health issues linking consumption of HFCS has been done mostly on rats and mice, and they have been exposed to mega-doses of HFCS in these experiments. So we cannot say that the health problems are happening because of the HFCS or just the mega dose. We could all develop health problems if we mega dosed on broccoli! We also can’t generalise rodent studies to human health. So the problem we have is someone not trained in physiology reads these studies and jumps to enormous conclusions. Just because some American rats OD’d on high fructose corn syrup doesn’t mean we shouldn’t eat bananas! Most of the people spouting the IQS ideas are not adequately qualified or trained in the science of nutrition. There are some medical people talking about it, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. Many influencers are not reading the research thoroughly or just cherry picking research that supports their ideas, which is not in the spirit of science! Nutrition science is hard, and complex. The relationship between our health and what we eat is confounded by many factors. One important aspect which is never spoken about by these influencers are issues like poverty, oppression, and even the impact of dieting itself, and the anxiety and food guilt created by such nervous attention to food. What Tara doesn’t like is when a professional such as herself speaks up - in a calm manner - to enquire about the harm being potentially done - and they don’t engage. So with the fruit pyramid issue, Tara politely enquired if the IQS people could share with her the research to support the pyramid. They responded by saying there is ‘lots out there’, but also said that the IQS program is not based on science but a “gentle experiment”. This is mind blowing - telling people they can’t eat bananas, telling them to eat only expensive fruits, charging people $99 for this program, making promises to reduce weight and depression - but none of it is based on science? Tara cannot fathom how that is ok to do that to people. “You can’t give a rigid rule and then call it a gentle experiment” - that’s gaslighting. This is modern diet culture. Everything’s exactly the same. We’ve still got the rigid rules, we’ve still got the ‘this is the way to diet’. Except we’re no longer allowed to call it a diet, or pursue weight loss. We’ve got to talk about wellness or healing really ill defined things. And then use the language of self compassion to turn this into something loving and gentle. And its really not! So, IQS is huge - it has made millions of dollars. Last year Sarah decided to shut the IQS company and move on. She’s very much into the environment etc, reducing food waste. And she’s written the book, First, we Make the Beast Beautiful, a very detailed account of her complex mental health issues. And the question is, should she have disclosed this while she was selling IQS? Louise can understand why she wouldn’t have, this is very personal and private information. But if someone has a history of severe mental illness and an eating disorder, jumping on the food advice bandwagon is, in Louise’s opinion, of concern. In a recent article from the UK, Sarah was interviewed by a reported who had an eating disorder background herself, and the interview did not go well for Sarah. Through the reporter’s eyes, Sarah presented as someone who still had eating issues. And the interview did claim that Sarah had given up on quitting sugar, a claim which Sarah has since vehemently denied. Sarah has claimed she was misquoted, and IQS has done an interview with Sarah to present her side. Tara contacted Sarah on social media to ask her if she had quit the IQS movement, and also put some questions to her regarding the potential harm that IQS has caused. Sarah then posted that she had been bullied by Tara, and by the journalist. She also said that someone with mental health issues should never be bullied. Tara then apologised, and asked for clarification about what Sarah felt had been misquoted in the article. She offered Sarah the opportunity to detail what was wrong about the article and said she would share this with her followers in order to clear it up. She gave Sarah her phone, email and other contact numbers. But she did not respond, and actually went offline for a couple of days. Tara can see how this would have been hard for Sarah - being questioned in public, on social media, about your philosophy, is not easy. Tara gets it: she has her own lived experience with PTSD, and close family members are experiencing severe mental health issues. But Tara does not think this means it is ok to hide accountability behind. She believes it may be a reason, but not an excuse. This has not been easy for Tara either - many in her profession have commended her for having the guts to speak up, some have questioned her. But she doesn’t do it for ‘reputation’ - she does it for her clients. When you see such large numbers of people being harmed by the IQS messages, it’s impossible to stay quiet. It’s not about herself. It’s about all of the people out there who are suffering, and using her voice to stick up for them. "Sometimes I feel like I have an ethical duty to speak up for the general public". In the book, it is clear that Sarah has a big heart, and a big brain. She is genuinely trying to help people, and herself. It’s not easy to live with bipolar disorder, severe anxiety, OCD. But in the book Sarah also talks about being diagnosed with an eating disorder - bulimia - and for that, she has not had treatment. She has had all kinds of treatment for her anxiety. But not for the eating issues, which are very much absent from an otherwise very thorough exploration of her mental health. Louise is a biased too, with her eating disorder hat on, but surely that aspect of mental health has to come into this too? Understanding anxiety is important, and an eating disorder for many people is a way of controlling anxiety by controlling food. Sarah talks frequently about her anxiety as a constant grasping at things to give her a sense of safety in the world. So you can see how controlling what she eats, and having clear lists of foods to eat, could control her anxiety. This kind of connection is not made in the book. And for Louise, it’s a missing piece. People writing self help books are in a position of power. It’s not ok to put responsibility back into the lap of the consumer! Tara has copped criticism for calling Sarah out on this topic, even from fellow health professionals. But she asks: where do we draw the line? Do people have carte blanche to just say anything they like, and then withdraw responsibility by citing poor mental health? We’re grappling now with this question, if someone has a mental health issue can they say anything, cause harm, and that’s ok? Trump’s feelings are also potentially hurt, but people are much less upset about it! Is this a gender thing? What would have happened if it was Paleo Pete coming out with a history of severe mental health issues!? We don’t have the answers, but it is important to have this conversation. Tara has reflected and learned a lot from this experience. Maybe Sarah Wilson has, who knows? Tara’s hope is that if a nutrition professional reaches out to an influencer, they’ll at least listen and have that conversation. If Tara was told that some of her advice had caused harm, she’d be concerned and working at understanding the situation and make sure it doesn’t happen again. But we don’t see this with influencers. The Paleo Pete disaster when he wanted to publish a book with a ‘bone broth’ recipe for babies that was so dangerous it could cause death. Pete was contacted by hundreds of health professionals and organisations pleading with him not to do harm. So he self published the book anyway! Wouldn’t you at some stage check in with yourself? Or just blatantly double down? It reflects the strength of these people’s belief in their nutrition camps. Throughout Sarah’s book is peppered this assumption that sugar is bad. She even tells people that in order to fully recover from anxiety, you definitely need to quit sugar! And that’s not an interpretation, it’s down there in her book, in black & white. “You need to quit sugar. Down to 6-9 teaspoons a day”. That’s not a gentle experiment! This is written in a book for people who are living with anxiety. Because this comes from her belief system, in which anxiety is either caused or worsened by fructose, the book has all of these ideas which are very damaging and could ultimately increase people’s food anxiety. That fear of sugar will create or exacerbate the anxiety which the book is apparently all about alleviating. No-one with an eating disorder can read this book. Also, no one in a larger body can read this book - it’s very fat phobic. There is research on gut health to show that plant foods with lots of fibre can improve our gut health, and that can be linked to mental health. When you quit sugar, you likely eat more plant foods, and that increase is what’s responsible for any improvements, rather than the absence of sugar per say. In intuitive eating, it’s all about adding foods, not taking them away. What’s annoying is this increasing normalising of sugar as a bad thing across our society. Kids are picking up on it. Tara’s 5 year old daughter did a lesson in class on how much sugar was in a can of coke! She’s 5! The world that Tara & I live in - we work in the intensive care ward for eating concerns - and we are seeing people flood in, casualties of the anti-sugar crusade. Sugar is the “devil right now’, and as health professionals it is ok that we are concerned. We’re not picking on any 1 person, we’re talking about figureheads of a movement. We need to remember who we’re trying to protect. It’s our kids. Tara hopes that the influencers can see that nutrition professionals are genuinely helping people - we see genuine concern, genuine problems. Tara is not just a schill for Big Sugar! Tara was asked by “The Conversation” to write an article about the dangers of sugar. Instead, she wrote an article about the dangers of always talking about sugar in a negative way. It ended up being one of the most read articles The Conversation had ever published. Tara was blasted by anti-sugar people for ‘giving people diabetes’. All because she used her scientific knowledge to suggest a much less extreme approach to sugar. And of course people suggested she’s been paid off by “Big Sugar” to write the article. She wasn’t! Good things can happen when people push back and ask questions - for example at the end of last year, the Dietitians Association of Australia stopped taking funding from big food companies. But this absolute demonisation of one food group is just ill advised and short sighted. Resources: Find out more about Tara Leong, including her fabulous anti-diet merchandise, here. The wonderful Katering Show & its wonderful IQS satire The bizarre IQS Fruit Pyramid: The now-closed “I Quit Sugar” empire, which still sells the books etc. Sarah Wilson’s book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful” *Here is the article about the misleading food labels on the IQS range - note that the products were not actually removed from shelves, but they were discussed as misleading. The Daily Mail article by Eve Simmons claiming that Sarah Wilson had quit quitting sugar (strongly contested by Sarah Wilson) Paleo Pete & his baby killing bone broth Tara’s amazing article in The Conversation about the dangers of talking about sugar as the new devil  

In episode number 2 of the Reading for Your Life podcast. Alex shares Sarah Wilson's First We Make the Beast Beautiful: A New Journey Through Anxiety. This month is about understanding what causes anxiety and how to live with it.You can buy a copy of First We Make the Beast Beautiful from Sarah's website here: http://www.sarahwilson.com/books/If you find yourself struggling with anxiety and want to find some help, you can find a local therapist or a telemental service provider in your state here: https://adaa.org/finding-helpContact Alex Acton on Twitter @alexpacton or find more Modern Polymaths at modernpolymaths.com, on twitter @modernpolymaths, or on Facebook at Modern Polymaths Media.

When we look around and see the environmental crises facing the world it can be easy to slip in to despair, as we wonder, “What difference can I make? I’m only one person.” In today’s episode we meet Georgi, who has made massive strides in changing the way she lives as an individual but is now looking at the bigger picture and wants to know, “What are some bigger things I can do, outside my own home, to make a real impact? What are the best things we can do to make a real difference?” Georgi and Brooke have a really wide-ranging conversation that looks at both the highly practical changes each of us can make in our attempts to live a slower, more sustainable life, as well as the broader issue of how to work out what we have to offer our community and how to begin delivering it. Brooke is then joined by special guest, Sarah Wilson (author of First, We Make the Beast Beautiful) who talks about the importance of us coming together to make change, as opposed to buying in to the story that we as individuals need to fix every single problem the system has created. This is a really refreshing conversation that highlights the idea that making change is as simple as showing up in our own communities and as complicated as learning to let go of the guilt at not being able to do it all. Enjoy! Looking for more Slow? Find show notes, resources and links at slowyourhome.com/season4 Follow us on Instagram @slowhomepod Sign up for our love letters Join the Slow Experiment Club over on Patreon Or leave a rating or review in iTunes Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/slow See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Helen Mort's latest novel is Black Car Burning published by Chatto & Windus. Her website is http://www.helenmort.com She read Mountain and The Fear from No Map Could Show Them again published by Chatto and Windus. I read The Tremor of Silk and Rivelin Valley Vespers from A Night Sea Journey published by Authorhouse, The book by Sarah Wilson is First, We Make the Beast Beautiful published by Corgi 2019 a great read for anxious people and those who live with us! 

Emily May is a Melbourne based Yoga and Meditation teacher and Reiki Master. Emily does a lot of work around anxiety which is the topic of this episode - and anxiety is an issue that affects many of us day to day. We would like to point out that none of us in the recording are mental health professionals, so if you are struggling with anxiety or depression, please consider seeing someone who can help you - we added some links below. In this episode we learn about Emily's background growing up in Melbourne and how she believes she discovered the effectiveness of healing yourself through chakras from an early age. We learn about how Emily discovered yoga and how she came to teach it. We learn about anxiety, some of it's causes and symptoms and how yoga may help. Finally, we learn about how yoga teachers can sequence and use language to make things easier for people struggling with anxiety. Links Emily May's Website: https://www.mayyoga.com.au/ Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mayyogawellbeing/ RUOK Day: https://www.ruok.org.au/ Beyond Blue: https://www.beyondblue.org.au Books: Lost Connections by Johann Hari: https://amzn.to/312ikwP First, we make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah Wilson: https://amzn.to/2N047wT My Age of Anxiety by Scott Stossel: https://amzn.to/2N03DXB

Sarah Wilson is a writer, author and journalist.Sarah edited Cosmopolitan Australia for 4 years and has interviewed everyone from The Dalai Lama to Brene Brown. After a major health scare, she turned her back on city life, before retreating to the woods to write weekly articles where she trialled trends. One of these experiments lead her to giving up sugar for a week, which organically placed her to helm and found ‘I Quit Sugar’ - a movement which achieved global acclaim. In 2017, Sarah wrote her best-selling book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. A disarmingly honest, well-researched and powerful book on mental health.More recently she’s turned her attention to campaigning against Consumerist Waste, recently writing zero waste cookbook called Simplicious Flow. Find Sarah: https://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_/First, We Make The Beast Beautiful: http://bit.ly/2Piya50Simplicious Flow: https://amzn.to/2zkhIGyDigital copy: http://store.iquitsugar.com/i-quit-sugar-simplicious-flow/Find me: https://www.instagram.com/venetiafalconer/Disclaimer: this episode is kindly sponsored by Pukka Tea: https://www.pukkaherbs.com/Pukka Herbs Peace Tea: https://www.pukkaherbs.com/shop/organic-teas/peace/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Sarah Wilson joins me on the podcast to talk about her book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful - a memoir about her mental health journey. In this episode we discuss coming to terms with mental health, how to navigate your way around, through and beyond panic attacks and how anxiety can be a strength, not a weakness.Sarah's book I Quit Sugar: Your Complete 8 Week Detox Programme and Cook Book. To join the closed Facebook group for the podcast click here >> The Emma Guns Show Forum.To follow me on social media >> Twitter | Instagram. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As a hugely successful journalist and writer, and the founder of the international diet and lifestyle empire I Quit Sugar, Sarah Wilson might seem like the poster girl for perfect health. Yet anxiety and bipolar disorder have been with her throughout her life and career. Growing up in rural Australia in a big, poor family, she has always been driven to overachieve, editing national magazines, hosting the first season of Masterchef, writing a series of bestselling cookbooks, and amassing a small army of online followers. In her book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, Sarah gives an unflinchingly honest account of her struggles with mental illness, and how anxiety doesn’t have to be a negative force in your life.

I follow my enthusiasm by reading…a lot. And once a month, I share (some of) the books I read last month and the books I intend to read this month. You can join the informal book club by sharing your own list with me on Facebook and find all the posts here. (The usual disclaimer applies.) What I read This month I got kinda book-crazy and attempted to read 40 books in the 40 days of Lent. I'm at 32 books right now, and I have about a week left, so it's possible I'll get there. For more on what I'm reading (in real-time!), follow my Stories on Instagram. Non-fiction: We're Going to Need More Wine, by Gabrielle Union The Body is Not an Apology, by Sonya Renee Taylor Dream More, by Dolly Parton First, we Make the Beast Beautiful, by Sarah Wilson I'd Rather be Reading, by Anne Bogel (free on Kindle Unlimited!) Well-Read Black Girl, by Glory Edim Novels: Foe, by Iain Reid Give Me Your Hand, by Megan Abbott My Sister the Serial Killer, by Oyinkan Braithwaite More on my GoodReads Listen in at TaraSwiger.com/podcast255

By the end of the 1700s, the average American consumed four teaspoons of sugar a day. One hundred years later, that number had risen to eighteen teaspoons. Today, we're consuming 22 teaspoons (93 grams) per day, and it's a huge problem. Diabetes rates are through the roof, and elevated blood sugar levels contribute to nearly every major disease and illness. But... we all love sugar. We're genetically wired to seek it out and gorge on it. So how do we even begin to find balance in a sugar- and carb-laden world? After a scary bout of Hashimoto's Disease, our guest on this week's podcast dedicated her life to researching and eliminating sugar. She'll share the bitter truth about sugar and how to break free from your addiction to it. Listen & Learn: Why fructose (fruit sugar) gives you a beer belly How "natural sugars" can be even worse than plain white sugar Why it's nearly impossible to not cook and be healthy How to begin your own sugar detox Why agave is the worst sweetener on the market Links & Resources: Sarah's Website Sarah's Books on Amazon Sugar Consumption & Diabetes Research ABOUT OUR GUEST Sarah is a New York Times bestselling author, former journalist, and founder of the former site, IQuitSugar.com. She wrote the book, First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, as well as 15 different I Quit Sugar books. Nutritional Tip of the Week:  Iron Got Questions? Send me a voicemail here: Ask Lucas a Question Or write to us: podcast@yogabody.com Like the Show? Leave us a Review on iTunes Thanks to Our Sponsor: Molekule – has completely reinvented the air purifier. From the inside out, Molekule has reimagined what clean air ought to look and feel like—unobtrusive, portable, and 100% effective. Visit: MOLEKULE and use coupon code “Lucas” for $75 off your first order. Learn More

Leave waste behind with Sarah Wilson's new cookbook Simplicious Flow. It's the anti-cookbook we all need in our kitchens that puts a bomb under the habit of waste. Sarah Wilson is the founder of I Quit Sugar - a worldwide phenomenon - and author of First, We Make the Beast Beautiful. In her new cookbook, she emboldens us to adopt a ‘zero-waste' cooking as the path to good health, creativity and an altogether more elegant life. Listen to our chat with Sarah to find out what she has frozen in her freezer, among other things! Books mentioned I Quit Sugar by Sarah Wilson —> https://bit.ly/2xCupME Simplicious Flow by Sarah Wilson —> https://bit.ly/2Oc9Rnn Hosts: John Purcell and Sarah McDuling Guest: Sarah Wilson

Recently I read the book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful A New Journey Through Anxiety by Sarah Wilson. And I can't say enough good things about it. Today I explore 5 of Sarah's cruel ironies when it comes to living with anxiety. If you struggle with anxiety or know someone who does, I know you will be nodding your head in understanding as you listen. 

This week’s episode features an in-depth conversation with journalist, entrepreneur and New York Times bestselling author Sarah Wilson. We discuss her incredible new book FIRST, WE MAKE THE BEAST BEAUTIFUL: A NEW JOURNEY THROUGH ANXIETY, how she deals with anxiety, interesting ways that your body could be making you anxious, and what quitting sugar has done for her (and millions of other people). Sarah Wilson is a journalist, entrepreneur, and the New York Times bestselling author of I Quit Sugar. She is the former editor of Australian Cosmopolitan, and she blogs on philosophy, anxiety, minimalism, toxin-free living, and anti-consumerism at sarahwilson.com. Wilson was ranked in Greatist.com’s 100 Most Influential Health Experts in 2015 and as one of the top 200 Most Influential Authors in the world in 2017 and 2018. She lives in Sydney, rides a bike everywhere, is a compulsive hiker, and is eternally curious. She is the author of the brand new book First, We Make the Beast Beautiful: A New Journey Through Anxiety, which is now available wherever books are sold. You can find her at www.sarahwilson.com and follow her on Twitter @_sarahwilson_ and Instagram @_sarahwilson_. You can also find her on Facebook right here. Full show notes can be found at: www.anxietydiariespodcast.com/13 Thanks for listening! If you enjoyed the podcast, please make sure you subscribe and take a moment to rate and review it on Apple Podcasts! You can find the podcast at www.anxietydiariespodcast.com or at imsoanxious.com, on Facebook and Instagram @anxietydiariespodcast and on Twitter @anxietydiarypod.

Sarah Wilson is the journalist, entrepreneur, and author behind the I Quit Sugar empire who has helped people around the world give up the sweet stuff for the sake of their health. She is also a lifelong sufferer of anxiety. Her latest book, First We Make the Beast Beautiful, is a stunning account of how Sarah copes with anxiety and a must-have handbook for anyone who wants to understand the often illusive mental illness a little better. In this episode, Sarah—a longtime friend and contributor to mbg—dives into the practices and routines that have helped her reframe her anxiety as a "beautiful beast" instead of a straight-up monster. It's rich with practical information that anyone can benefit from, from how to talk your way down from a panic attack to how to help a friend or loved one through their anxious moments. She also covers the sugar-anxiety connection and shares some fascinating science on how the anxious brain works and how we can train ours to do things differently. Tune in to snag Sarah's No. 1 tip for maintaining good health, staying present in the age of social media, and simplifying your life for the sake of your sanity. In honor of Mental Health Awareness month, I'm honored to present this podcast. To contact Jason with comments, questions, or speaker ideas, please e-mail podcast@mindbodygreen.com. For all sponsorship inquiries, please e-mail sales@mindbodygreen.com. Want to join our podcast newsletter? Sign up here!

Sarah Wilson (@_sarahwilson_) is a New York Times bestselling author, former journalist and founder of IQuitSugar.com, Australia’s largest digital wellness site. Most recently she published First, We Make the Beast Beautiful, A New Story of Anxiety, which has been a bestseller in Australia and will be published in the US and Canada today and in the UK two days later. Sarah campaigns against consumerist waste. On the side, she enjoys eating, hiking, ocean swimming, bike riding, not owning very much, and living life light. Sarah has lived out of two suitcases for almost 8 years. In this episode, we discuss: Taking 3 years to buy her first couch It's difficult to make decisions when you have anxiety Minimizing decision making with routines The first time Sarah remembers experiencing anxiety A lot of people with anxiety have heightened sensitivity to noise, touch, or smell Breaking the anxiety cycle What is anxiety? Maybe there's some beauty to anxiety Normalizing anxiety Extreme anxiety: acute physical (panic attack) vs. chronic (anxiety spiral) Living in the city recreates the anxious experience Anxious symptoms in children Reaching outwards when we are anxious is one of the worst things we can do Sitting in your shit When it's appropriate to not "aim too high" The impact of gratitude on your brain Dealing with uncertainty The difference between anxiety and depression The impact of our food choices on anxiety Inflammation in your gut = inflammation in your brain When anxiety is running high... meditation can actually make some people more anxious Just walk Meditation will work even if you're crap at it Has anxiety played a role in Sarah's success? What's it been like releasing the new book and sharing her vulnerable anxiety story How to support loved ones with anxiety Where Sarah is currently at on her anxiety journey You can be anxious and have a good life Show sponsors: Switch Grocery

This week’s episode features a long, wide-ranging interview with author and science writer Abby Norman. We talk about chronic pain and illness, doctors who don’t believe women, mental health, and so much more. Abby Norman is a science writer based in New England. Her work has been featured in Harper’s, The Independent, Literary Hub, Atlas Obscura, Medium, and others. She’s been interviewed and profiled by NPR,  Playboy, Glamour, The New York Times, Forbes, and many other international media outlets. Her debut book, ASK ME ABOUT MY UTERUS: A QUEST TO MAKE DOCTORS BELIEVE IN WOMAN’S PAIN, has been praised by The New York Times, The Washington Post, New York Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, The New Republic, Book Riot, Bust Magazine, Bitch Magazine, and others. She’s the host of a daily podcast, Let Me Google That, on Anchor.fm and lives on the coast of Maine. You can find Abby online at www.abbynormanwriter.com, on Twitter @abbymnorman, and Instagram @abbymnorman. And you can listen to her daily podcast Let Me Google That on Anchor.fm. You can pick up her book ASK ME ABOUT MY UTERUS wherever books are sold. Other books mentioned on the podcast this week include: A Series of Catastrophes & Miracles by Mary Elizabeth Williams First, We Make the Beast Beautiful by Sarah Wilson Thanks for listening! If you enjoyed the podcast, please take a moment to rate and review it in iTunes!

Your gut is Irritated By Stress because the world in 2017 is hectic. I’ve got one word for you. Meditation. Book - "First, We Make the Beast Beautiful" by Sarah Wilson.

Josh Cox has spent his life in pursuits that demand and develop a sense of self and a sense of others. A proud citizen of Aotearoa (New Zealand), he has worked in countries such as Australia, Uganda and America in roles related to the betterment of society. After studying Business Management and finding his natural fit with Human Resources Management, Josh has spent the last 6 years working as an HR professional for New Zealand based companies. Josh has a particular interest in the various ways one can pursue health of body, mind and spirit, in the interest of maximising life.    Connect: IG@mauricerocket FB@Joshuacox   Resources: Alchemist First you make the Beast Beautiful