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Just like a refreshing Summer beverage, the new episode of the Dads on the Rocks Podcast is here to serve as a light and crisp addition to your day before you melt into a puddle in the sidewalk. Or Andre's garage. This month we revisit (and forget) homework, what's old is new again with our music, film, and tv choices lately, and end of the the year things to be celebrated like graduations and down-to-the-wire potty training. Grab a freeze pop, put your feet in the kiddie pool, and press play. Enjoy!
Thousands drive past it every day, but only a few lay eyes on it. It's the Geneva Grotto. And nearly a century after it was built by local Catholic priests, the mosaic and stone structure is returning to serve as a connection between the faithful and their God.
The Under Rocks team goes on a treasure hunt with a real life detectorist.
If you grew up anywhere near Rockford, Illinois, in, oh, the last century or so, you probably have eaten at least a handful of Mrs. Fisher's potato chips. This regional delicacy started in Ethel Fisher's kitchen and still maintains that small-batch flavor, even as the company goes through 2.6 million pounds of local potatoes every year. So join Mrs. Fisher's vice president Chris Spiess as he takes the Under Rocks team on a tour of Rockford's salty treasure.
Curling fever doesn't have to end on the Olympic medal podium! Join your local curling league and the next four years will fly faster than a granite stone across a sheet of ice. We revisit our 2022 curling adventure at the Waltham Curling Club in Triumph, Ill. Plus, our resident curling superfan recaps the 2026 Olympic highlights — and explains the shocking controversy. Good curling!
It's been just over a year since Northern Illinois University closed its outdoor education campus high above the Rock River in Oregon, Illinois. While its future is still in limbo, a group called Together for Taft is making progress in its effort to bring it back as an environmental education center. WNIJ's Under Rocks podcast team stopped by the group's fundraiser recently, which was held across the river from the shuttered campus.
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The Under Rocks team is thankful for all the fine food and drink here in northern Illinois. So pile your plate high as we revisit some of our favorite culinary adventures. Plus aspic! We hope you're hungry.
The November edition of the Dads on the Rocks Podcast is here with a Halloween recap (sort of), a recent vacation, new music, our reasons to be thankful, and we remind Andre to take the salmon out before bed. Enjoy!
Who's haunting your local theater? The Under Rocks team goes in search of theater ghost lights…and finds a whole lot more.
A new exhibit at Northern Illinois University's Art Museum is an ambitious look at the school's vaunted printmaking program, which is in its 60th year. It also marks the end of a chapter for the museum. In the latest Under Rocks podcast, curator Peter Olson takes us on a tour of the exhibit and clues us into what the future holds for the campus museum.
Happy Mindful Monday,Everyone!In this week's epsiode, our host Allie Brooke is interviewed by the fantastic Desiree Simone on the "Growth on the Rocks" Podcast. In this episode, they dive deep into a conversation that's as personal as powerful. They sit down to discuss their similar backgrounds as high-performing women and how their diverse cultures have shaped the ambitious, driven people they are today. But this isn't just a success story; it's a candid exploration of the shadow side of ambition. They unpack the perils of perfectionism, not as a quest for excellence, but as a relentless, exhausting pursuit of an impossible ideal. They talk about how this tendency often leaves them feeling stuck, unfulfilled, and afraid to make mistakes. We also explore the deep roots of people-pleasing, revealing that it's far more complex than simply wanting to make others happy. Drawing on lessons learned from maternal ancestries and their journeys, they discuss how cultivating emotional intelligence has been the key to unlocking true freedom. They share how understanding our emotions, setting firm boundaries, and embracing vulnerability have allowed them to move beyond the patterns of perfectionism and people-pleasing. This conversation is an honest look at the path from feeling defined by external expectations to living a life guided by internal peace and genuine self-acceptance.Epaiode TopicsPerfectionism vs. Excellence: Exploring the difference between a healthy drive for quality and the debilitating fear of making a mistake.The Root of People-Pleasing: Discussing how people-pleasing is more than just being nice and often stems from a fear of conflict or a need for external validation.Lessons from Our Mothers: Sharing how the women who raised us influenced our relationships with success, self-worth, and emotional expression.The Power of Boundaries: A conversation about how to set and maintain boundaries for time, energy, and emotions to protect your mental well-being.Emotional Intelligence: Breaking down how cultivating self-awareness and emotional regulation is the key to overcoming perfectionism and people-pleasing.Cultural Influences: Exploring how our cultural backgrounds have shaped our definitions of success and our tendencies toward certain behaviors.Finding True Freedom: A final discussion on the journey from living for external approval to living a life of internal peace and genuine self-acceptance.How To Connect w| DesireeWebsiteInstagramPodcast The Growth METHOD. Membership◦ Join Here! (Both FREE and Premium)◦ Use Code:growthmindsetgal for 50% off your first month's subscription! 1:1 GROWTH MINDSET COACHING PROGRAMS!◦ Application Form ◦ Coaching Programs informationWhat are the coaching sessions like?• Tailored weekly discussion questions and activities to spark introspection and self-discovery.• Guided reflections to help you delve deeper into your thoughts and feelings.• Thoughtfully facilitated sessions to provide maximum support, accountability, and growth.• Please apply for a FREE discovery call with me!• Allie's Socials• Instagram:@thegrowthmindsetgal• TikTok: @growthmindsetgal• Email: thegrowthmindsetgal@gmail.comLinks from the episode• Growth Mindset Gang Instagram Broadcast Channel• Growth Mindset Gang Newsletter • Growth Mindset Gal Website• Better Help Link: Save 10% https://betterhelp.com/growthmindsetgalSubstack
In a quiet wooded neighborhood on the south side of Rockford, there's a man making magic in his basement workshop. Tom Asher uses the tools, knowledge, and creative skills he's gathered over a lifetime as a musician, woodworker, and artist -- to craft violins.
2000 called and wants its phone book back. And now it's in the hands that last touched it 25 years ago. Join Northern Star reporters past and present as they relive the past and plan for the future through a time capsule in a wall at Northern Illinois University.
In this bonus episode, we're sharing Ellen's guest appearance on Recovery Rocks, a podcast hosted by recovery advocates Lisa Smith and Tawny Lara. Tawny reached out after How to Do the Pot helped her explore cannabis as part of her recovery journey, and Ellen was honored to join them for this thoughtful conversation. In this episode, we talk about: How cannabis can support recovery, including Tawny's story of integrating low-dose cannabis into her life post-sobriety. Why stigma still shapes how women think about weed, and how to move past it. What to consider if you're exploring cannabis as an alternative to anxiety meds or alcohol. Hosted by Ellen Scanlon Sign up for Ellen's newsletter on Substack at https://dothepot.substack.com/ or at dothepot.com Follow on IG: @dothepot / FB: @dothepot / X: @dothepot
Spring into the latest episode of the Dads on the Rocks Podcast! Somehow we both remembered to do our homework of oversimplifying Disney movies. We talk about recent stressors and remind ourselves that other parents are going through exactly what you are, and there's comfort in knowing you're not alone. And we each share a story for confirming parenthood can be disgusting. Enjoy!
One of the world's most precious architectural gems rests on the banks of the Fox River in northern Illinois. Maybe you've seen the Edith Farnsworth House in Plano: It's a mid-century glass and steel marvel designed and constructed by Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. The Under Rocks team got a chance to visit and learn more about the woman who commissioned her glass get-away in the woods, Edith Farnsworth.
There's a museum around every corner in Illinois. The Under Rocks team explores three of them near us to see how they are preserving our histories. Got a favorite? Tell us at rocks@niu.edu
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Does Illinois really need a new flag? Or is the old "seal on a bedsheet" good enough? In this Under Rocks Extra, we call on our favorite expert, self-proclaimed state symbologist and Illinois Enthusiast John Kokoris to review the options the state's flag commission is offering. And he is, respectfully, not pleased.
Thanks to a small town in northern Illinois, Groundhog Day is bigger than one chubby rodent and its shadow dropping a dubious weather forecast. In Woodstock, the groundhog takes a backseat to the real cause for celebration: the 1993 Bill Murray movie that was filmed there. The Under Rocks team visited the famed town square with the head of the annual festival (and Groundhog Day movie extra!) Rick Bellairs.
James Mirtle, senior writer for The Athletic, talks with JD at the top of the show about the Leafs' plan if Matthew Knies should miss time, what they should be coveting in potential trades, and how to address the play of Morgan Rielly and Max Domi (00:00). Then, Marcellus Wiley of Dat Dude TV, Hydration Situation, On the Rocks Podcast, and 10-year NFL veteran, tackles the Lamar Jackson discourse, how sharp the Chiefs will be against Buffalo and Bills Mafia, the Cowboys' head coach pursuit, and the rise of Jayden Daniels this season (49:52). Finally, JD and the producers end the show with 'What We Missed' (1:24:52). The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.
Craft distilleries are the new craft breweries: There's a growing number of these small operations in northern Illinois, offering their own take on the art of whiskey-making. And to wrap up another year of the Under Rocks podcast, our team heads out in search of some holiday spirit at Whiskey Acres in DeKalb.
We say goodbye to a field campus that meant a lot to northern Illinoisans during its decades of serving students interested in the environment and the arts. And we revisit a deep dive we took into one of the works of art that made the Lorado Taft campus so special.
There's a big sprawling graveyard in northern Illinois where the people of Belvidere have been laid to rest for nearly 200 years. In the heart of the Belvidere Cemetery is a tiny community space with a big history: Pettit Chapel, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. The Under Rocks team met with Sam Larson there to learn more about the history of the sacred space and the role of a sexton.
In this episode of the Kontent Rocks podcast, Brian McKeiver interviews Nabil Orfali, CEO and Founder of Kajoo.ai. The two delve into how Kajoo.ai plans to revolutionize advancements in digital experience building. In this first portion of the interview, Nabil introduces himself, talks about why Kajoo.ai started, and offers an overview on how Kajoo.ai can be used to rapidly build digital experiences.
What do you get when you combine dragons, boats, a touch of “oh my!” and 22 dedicated athletes? The coolest sport you've never heard of! Dragon boating has roots in ancient China and branches all over the world…including a lake near you. The Under Rocks crew dons life vests and heads to Shabbona Lake for their latest adventure.
Fun-starved explorers find gold (and prizes!) along the Rockford Adventure Trail. Join us for what could be the most ambitious Under Rocks ever!
Lustron Houses. They're in your neighborhood. You just have to look for these mid-century metal marvels. You Under Rocks team heads to Mt. Morris to check out a cluster of Lustrons.
In this episode of the Kontent Rocks podcast, we're diving behind the scenes of the Kontent.ai rebrand with none other than Vojtech Boril, the Global VP of Marketing at Kontent.ai. Join Brian and Vojtech, as they explore the intricate journey that resulted in a new brand for Kontent.ai. They'll discuss the whirlwind initial rebrand completed in just five weeks, leading up to the comprehensive rebrand undertaken last fall amidst multiple changes and market shifts. Vojtech and Brian unpack the tight timeframe, share real-life examples of challenges during the rebranding like color choices, and emphasize the importance of content modeling in transitioning to a headless CMS.
In this episode of the Kontent Rocks podcast, Brian McKeiver interviews Andrew Kumar, Global VP at Uniform. Brian and Andrew discuss how Uniform has updated its platform over the past months and how Uniform now sees itself in the market. Brian asks Andrew to answer how Kontent.ai and Uniform can function together so well, even though some features may overlap. Listen on to find out how these two platforms can elevate digital experiences.
We go at it hammer and tongs during a visit to the Phineas Vaughan Blacksmith Shop at the Glidden Homestead in DeKalb. Will Dan be able to upset the steel in time to open his beer before it gets warm? Or does he have too many irons in the fire?
In this episode of the On the Rocks Podcast by Prospector, host Emily King sits down with Alex Michshenko, CEO of Trident Maor, for a deep dive into the world of uranium. As they reflect on the historical origins of uranium mining in the US and its subsequent decline, they uncover the complex web of factors contributing to its resurgence in the present day. From geopolitical tensions to supply chain vulnerabilities, they explore the challenges facing the uranium industry and discuss potential solutions. Throughout the conversation, they shed light on the critical importance of talent cultivation and strategic planning in shaping the future of nuclear energy.
In a rural corner of northern Winnebago County, right up near the Wisconsin border, you can find one of the country's most important bird research centers – and one of the most dedicated teams of volunteers you'll ever meet. So as spring migration started ramping up, we sent our own dedicated team to investigate the Sand Bluff Bird Observatory and banding station.
This week TMPT welcomes into the show for our flagship episode, former USWA Tag Team Chamion, Jamie Dundee aka JC Ice. The former WCW WWF ECW and USWA Superstar talks about his entire career in the pro wrestling business. Host John Poz and Jamie talk breaking into the business, Memphis, USWA, WWF, WCW, ECW, TNA, John Cena stealing his gimmick, WWE, Vince McMahon, Jerry Lawler, his dad Bill Dundee, and so much more!Check out the History on the Rocks Podcast - https://www.historyontherockspodcast.com/The best and easy way to win money is playing fantasy! Join @underdogfantasy today (underdogfantasy.com) and enter the promo code POWERTRIP to double your deposit. Then all you have to do is pick a game, guess higher or lower on or draft your team; then sit back, relax & watch the money roll in!Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: POWERTRIPStore - Teepublic.com/stores/TMPTFollow us @TwoManPowerTrip on Twitter and IG
This week TMPT welcomes into the show for our flagship episode, The Latin Heartthrob, Al Perez. The former WCCW World Heavyweight Champion talks about his entire career in the pro wrestling business. Host John Poz and Al talk breaking into the business, NWA, WWF, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson, CWF, WCCW, Ole Anderson, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Gary Hart, The Von Erichs, Sting, WCW, the Black Scorpion, GLORY DAYS: GRAPPLECON, and so much more!GLORY DAYS: GRAPPLECONhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/glory-days-grapplecon-tickets-760889108807?aff=oddtdtcreatorCheck out the Art of Manliness Podcast - https://www.artofmanliness.com/podcast/Check out the History on the Rocks Podcast - https://www.historyontherockspodcast.com/The best and easy way to win money is playing fantasy! Join @underdogfantasy today (underdogfantasy.com) and enter the promo code POWERTRIP to double your deposit. Then all you have to do is pick a game, guess higher or lower on or draft your team; then sit back, relax & watch the money roll in!Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: POWERTRIPStore - Teepublic.com/stores/TMPTFollow us @TwoManPowerTrip on Twitter and IG
This week John Poz's TMPT welcomes into the show for the flagship episode, former WCW Champion, Big Poppa Pump, Scott Steiner. The former WCW World Champion joins the show to talk about his entire professional wrestling career. Host John Poz and Scott talk about his breaking into the business, Rick Steiner, the Steiner Brothers, Bron Breakker, NXT, Goldberg, Booker T, Road Warriors, Sting, Lex Luger, WCW, WWF, WWE, Vince McMahon, and so much more.Check out the Art of Manliness Podcast - https://www.artofmanliness.com/podcast/Check out the History on the Rocks Podcast - https://www.historyontherockspodcast.com/The best and easy way to win money is playing fantasy! Join @underdogfantasy today (underdogfantasy.com) and enter the promo code POWERTRIP to double your deposit. Then all you have to do is pick a game, guess higher or lower on or draft your team; then sit back, relax & watch the money roll in!Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: POWERTRIPStore - Teepublic.com/stores/TMPTFollow us @TwoManPowerTrip on Twitter and IG
Step into Founders Memorial Library on the campus of Northern Illinois University and you'll find yourself in a colorful dream world. Between the bookshelves are 22 towering sculptures by five artists from Mexico City. “Alebrijes – Creatures of a Dream World” is free and open to the public through November 8, 2024, and artist visits and other special events will be planned throughout its stay.
This week TMPT welcomes into the show for our flagship episode, wrestling legend, Black Bart. The former NWA National Heavyweight Champion, WCWA World Heavyweight Champion, and 2x CWA World Heavyweight champion talks about his entire career in the pro wrestling business. Host John Poz and Black Bart talk breaking into the business, NWA, WWF, CWA, WCCW, his relationship with Dusty Rhodes, training JBL, his new book with Vinny Berry, and so much more!Check out the Art of Manliness Podcast - https://www.artofmanliness.com/podcast/Check out the History on the Rocks Podcast - https://www.historyontherockspodcast.com/Black Bart book - https://wrestleville.com/store/p/wrestle-black-bartTake the journey through Black Bart's life and wrestling career. After three decades of being a pro wrestler, Bart has seen and done it all! Read stories of his humble beginnings and how he broke into the wrestling business. Plus, stories of Dusty Rhodes, Dick Murdoch, Sam Houston, Mr. Fuji, the Von Erichs, Bruiser Brody, Buzz Tyler, and Ron Bass. Learn about what it was like for him to wrestle in the Mid Atlantic, South Eastern Championship Wrestling, Mid-South, Florida, World Class territories, and the World Wrestling Federation. Find out what wrestling gimmick Dusty offered Bart, but it ended up going to someone else. Bart's "tell it like is storytelling comes out on the pages and it is sure to make you laugh! 336 Pages plus 55 pictures and Foreword by JBL!The best and easy way to win money is playing fantasy! Join @underdogfantasy today (underdogfantasy.com) and enter the promo code POWERTRIP to double your deposit. Then all you have to do is pick a game, guess higher or lower on or draft your team; then sit back, relax & watch the money roll in!Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: POWERTRIPStore - Teepublic.com/stores/TMPTFollow us @TwoManPowerTrip on Twitter and IG
In this transformative episode of the On the Rocks Podcast, hosted by Emily King and sponsored by KPI Mining, experts Benny Cohen, Matheus Faria, and Giovanni Santos dive deep into the world of mining optimization through the lens of stochastic mine planning. They shed light on how traditional challenges of uncertainty in mining operations can be mitigated by embracing stochastic optimization techniques, originally honed in the oil and gas industry. The discussion explores the significant impacts of this approach, including improved Net Present Value (NPV), enhanced recovery rates, and more accurate forecasts, thereby enabling mining companies to make better-informed decisions and optimize their operations for higher efficiency and profitability.
In this enlightening episode of the On the Rocks Podcast, host Emily King chats with Ernest Scheyder, a senior correspondent at Reuters and author of "The War Below: Lithium, copper, and the global battle to power our lives". Scheyder delves into the critical minerals like lithium and copper that underpin the green energy transition. The discussion unfolds the complexities surrounding mining projects, the environmental and indigenous rights considerations, and the geopolitical chess game of mineral supply chains. With personal stories and professional insights, Scheyder highlights the crucial choices facing society in the quest for a sustainable future.
Sure, you have a rock collection. Who doesn't? Meet Jon Barnhart, whose rock collection was started by a Civil War veteran, and every stone has a story. Not to mention his collection of bikes, outhouses, out-buildings, signs, sleighs, vintage cars... Well, you're just going to have to listen.
It has been five years since The Librarian, a.k.a. Dan Libman, stepped into a wrestling ring in Oregon, IL. No, there won't be a rematch. But he will catch us up on what his fellow wrestlers are doing today.
Under Rocks wraps up another year of adventures by bundling up and heading into the woods to find the perfect pine. Actually, it's more of a farm than woods, as these rookies learn what's so great about a real Christmas tree. Sinnissippi Farm and Forest co-owner Doug Conroy schools them on the real vs. fake debate. The Clauses even weigh in -- and it's M-A-G-I-C.
Hi, this is your Under Rocks podcast team. We're excited about our final episode of 2023 and even more pumped about what's in store for 2024. So please leave a message at wnij.org or rocks@niu.edu. And starting now, you can find a fresh episode every third Thursday of the month!
On this episode of the On the Rocks Podcast, host Emily King visits with Pete Nowicki, the COO of Arctic Digital Mining. They discuss an innovative new approach to gold mining called digital mining. Developed by Arctic Digital Mining, this model uses blockchain technology to tokenize gold reserves while leaving the gold in the ground.
The Slamfest Podcast brings the premier rock concert pregaming experience from the parking lot to the podcasting airwaves. Episode 163 - Brad saw another real time show in 2023...L.A. Guns at The Machine Shop in Flint, MI on 7/15/23. He welcomes Jay Scott from The Hook Rocks! podcast to recap the show. For the Band on the Bill Spotlight, they discuss L.A. Guns' two most recent albums, Checkered Past from 2021 and Black Diamonds, from 2023 and decide which album they prefer. After a Slamfest Tip of the Week, they are faced with a "Which Side are you On?" - Side 1 off Cocked & Loaded, from 1989 vs. Side 1 off Hollywood Vampires from 1991.Music in this episode by:RattKissMetallicaTom Petty & The HeartbreakersBon JoviMotorheadCaptain & TenilleBlack SabbathOzzy OsbourneVisit the Slamfest Podcast online at: https://slamfest-podcast.simplecast.comRequest to join the Slamfest Podcast private Facebook page here:https://www.facebook.com/groups/slamfestpodcastE-mail us at : slamfestpodcast@gmail.comVisit Jay Scott, from The Hook Rocks! here:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hook-rockshttps://www.facebook.com/TheHookRocks
Kill Em All, the debut album from heavy metal heroes Metallica, was released July 25, 1983 but not to much fanfare. They didn't have the budget (or desire) to make videos and their sound was so loud and aggressive, you never heard them on rock radio back then. MTV was happy with bands like Men at Work and Duran Duran to be beamed to the suburbs which simply weren't ready for the thrash that Metallica brought with them. The album only sold about 60,000 copies the first year it was out. But it was the start of something which wouldn't be realized until almost a decade later. To help us better understand the significance of Kill Em All and the rise of thrash, we've enlisted Jay Scott - our Pantheon Podcasts brother from The Hook Rocks and The Zeppelin Chronicles with Shout It Out Loudcast. Jay has been listening to Metallica since the beginning and theorizes that this album was the death of glam rock even though at the time it went completely unnoticed. We go track by track and Jay talks about the night he road his bike to a bowling alley at midnight for a chance to gaze upon the boys from Metallica. It may have started slow out of the gates but this album is the foundation for what is now the biggest band in the world. Check out The Hook Rocks Podcast Ugly American Werewolf in London Website Ugly American Werewolf in London Store - Get your Wolf merch! Twitter Instagram YouTube LInkTree www.pantheonpodcasts.com Visit RareVinyl.com and use the NEW code UGLY to save 10%! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of the On the Rocks Podcast, host Emily King chats with Alicia Eastman, the president of InterContintental Energy and host of the Everything About Hydrogen podcast! Emily and Alicia dive right in on discussing the origin of InterContinental Energy, and "Green Hydrogen" - that is hydrogen that is made from renewable energy sources. We get to learn about what this process looks like, as well as infrastructure needs, and obstacles to overcome. So how does this all fit into the mining industry? Renewable energy sources rely heavily on the global supply chain of mined materials. Without these mined materials there would be no way to create green energy sources such as wind turbines, and the recent disruptions to the global supply chain have proven the need for reliable sources of these materials. Emily and Alicia also dig into how incorporating renewable resources and hydrogen directly into the mine site infrastructure could not only benefit the mines by providing clean, reliable energy to reduce their carbon footprint, but it could also benefit the surrounding communities by providing a lasting economic source after the mine has ceased operations. Be sure to tune in to the full episode to learn more!
In this episode of On the Rocks Podcast, host Emily King sits down with Zainab Usman, the Director of the Africa Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of "Economic Diversification in Nigeria: The Politics of Building a Post-Oil Economy". Zainab and Emily dig into the discussion of managing natural resources in different countries and economies, especially those rich in oil and mineral commodities. One of the key themes discussed in the episode is similarities and differences between countries that are rich in oil and gas versus mined commodities. Examples include: Similar - These are all non-renewable, natural resources, and important to many economic and industrial activities. Similar - Revenues tend to be quite large, generated by exports, and typically captured by the government. Because of this, there is a strong external dimension, meaning the economies are vulnerable to the volatility to the international pricing of these commodities. Different - The process of extraction is very different. The enclave nature of oil extraction and production can be very dissociated from the rest of the economy, and the jobs created can be very minimal. The mining sector also has an enclave nature, but it tends to be more labor intensive and have more people engaged. Different - The scale of revenues generated tend to be different, with crude oil the scale of revenues tend to be much larger than the mining sector due to the dynamics of the global market. Zainab also challenges the idea of the "resource curse", due to many countries that have been able to successfully manage their natural resources for economic growth. The key, according to Zainab, is to identify the broader challenges that need to be addressed and get the diagnosis of the problem right.