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Be It Till You See It
664. Comparison Is the Thief of Authenticity

Be It Till You See It

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Authenticity isn't about doing more; it's about undoing everything that isn't actually you. In this high-impact episode, Lesley Logan sits down with author and keynote speaker Barb Betts to unpack one of the most overused buzzwords in personal growth. From getting pregnant at 17 to building a speaking career rooted in real connection, Barb shares how her hair loss journey helped her stop hiding and start showing up fully. Instead of trying to be more, start shedding the layers of protection that stall your growth. This conversation flips the script on self-doubt, turning it into a green light for the next best version of you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Authenticity as an undoing process of performance and protection.How your relationship with yourself impacts your ability to connect with others.Reframing comparison with curiosity to overcome social media envy.Overcoming imposter syndrome by embracing self-doubt as a growth signal.The VVR formula using visibility vulnerability and relatability to connect.Episode References/Links:Barb Betts Website - https://www.barbbetts.comBarb Betts LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/barbbettsBarb Betts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/barbbettsThe Relationship Advantage by Barb Betts - https://therelationshipadvantagebook.comYou're Wrong About Podcast - https://beitpod.com/yourewrongboutGuest Bio:Barb Betts is a sought-after keynote speaker, CEO and relentless advocate for building businesses rooted in relationships. With over 20 years of experience, she blends authenticity and strategy to help professionals create lasting success while staying true to themselves. Known for her high-energy, transformative presentations, Barb has inspired audiences at events like LVMH, Thelios, Fidelity National, Inman Connect, and the NAR Annual Conference. As an entrepreneur and CEO, Barb equips leaders and business owners with the systems and strategies to leverage relationships for growth and success. Through her award-winning podcast, Relationships are Your Superpower®, she shows how trust-based connections lead to more referrals, loyal clients, and sustainable business models.Outside of her work, Barb enjoys life in Southern California with her husband and two children, and can in her spare time, loves to travel, spend time with friends and family, and has never met a steakhouse she doesn't like!  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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When I chose to go through my hair loss journey, take my hair off on social media and show everybody my basically bald front of my head. I upleveled my relationships big time in ways I never could have imagined, because it turns out people want authenticity, they want humanity and it gives others permission to do the same with you, and that's how you create a real relationship. Lesley Logan 0:43  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:26  All right, Be It babe, we're gonna talk about relationships, not like the romantic kind, but like relationships with our self. You've heard many Be It Pods be about get to know yourself. And so we're gonna talk about that in a deep, wonderful, tangible way. I actually think it's really great for all of us. I got, I have already have five things. I'm like, oh, I want to review that. Oh, I like that. Oh, I highlight that. Oh, that. I'm so glad I already do that, and now I know why I love it so much. So Barb Betts is our guest today. She's an author speaker and epic human you're gonna hear all about her, and I'm gonna let her tell you, because she's the best at it. So here's Barb Betts. Lesley Logan 2:00  All right, Be It babe, this is gonna be fun, because I've known this woman for a few years now and been following her journey. And there's so many ways this conversation could go, because you are one of the most multifaceted humans I do know, but you are an expert at several things, and I wanted to bring you on to just wow our people in being it till you see it. So, Barb Betts, tell everyone who you are and what you rock at. Barb Betts 2:21  Oh, Lesley Logan, it has been just so, you know, four years we've known each other. Lesley Logan 2:26  That's crazy. It went by so fast. That would be faster than high school. Barb Betts 2:31  I know that's funny. We were both part of a community that we met each other in, and I met you probably at one of my first events. So it has to be four years. So anyway, so my name is Bart Betts. I am from Southern California. I am a recovering real estate agent and broker who built a accidental speaking career while I was selling real estate, and that has transpired into me essentially stepping away from the industry. My husband now runs our sales team, and I now get to pursue my passion of being a thought leader in the world, of helping people build authentic, trust-based relationships with themselves and with others. Lesley Logan 3:08  Which is what the world needs. Because I can't tell you how many inauthentic relationship-building like things are trying to come through my DMs. Barb Betts 3:16  Oh yes girl oh yes. Lesley Logan 3:18  I appreciate when people like, Oh, I forgot. We should talk. I think we have a lot in common. It's like, I don't know who you are, though. This scares me. You don't know how much you're scaring me right now. Barb Betts 3:29  Correct. I cannot tell you how much I connect with that and how much it frustrates me. And I always tell people just continue to be cold in the DMS, and all you're going to get from me is I remove connection or block. So if that's how you want our relationship to go, then try it, because it works with me. Lesley Logan 3:44  I know, I well, I used to tell people, and maybe we've talked about this before, but like, when I'm still I still tell people this, but when I first started business coaching for Pilate instructors, I was like, your business is with clients, is like dating. You would freak out if a guy at a bar, and I'm sorry this is gonna be more heterosexual, because that's the experience I have at a bar. A guy at a bar comes at you and tries to make out with you. But every time you come up, people with come take my class, buy my package, you are trying to make out with a stranger at a bar. You have to, you have to tell me my sweater looks nice. Flatter me a little bit. Barb Betts 4:18  100% Lesley Logan 4:19  Well, we're kind of skipping ahead. So okay, you actually, I love that you're a recovering real estate broker. I don't think we've ever had one of those before. But how did you get into this? Like, what was the journey? How did you discover that you were a thought leader here? Because it's not like, I mean, maybe you've always known you were when we were born that way, and, like, someone goes Barb Betts, you are the thought leader on this, but, I don't know. Barb Betts 4:40  Kind of, what's crazy about this is so when I was like, as long as I can remember, I always wanted to be a teacher. I would play school in my room, and my favorite place to go to get prizes or rewards was teacher supply store. Lesley Logan 4:56  Oh, my God, I do love teacher supply, yes, that is the best store. Barb Betts 4:59  So I would get grade books and seating charts, and I would put the mean people with the mean people because I didn't like them, and I'd give them bad grades, and I'd give the Lesleys of the world that I loved. I'd give them the good grades, and I would line up on my camera, scratch kid dolls, and I would teach them school. So I've always had the heart of a teacher. Frankly, I wanted to be a teacher my whole life. I would have been 100% a teacher, I'd probably be a principal right now, if it wasn't for the fact that I got pregnant at 17 years old. I talk about it very openly that that derailed my college opportunities. And back then, in the late 90s, there was no Zoom, there was no online classes, there wasn't any of that. And so how I ended up in real estate is a story that it would be boring to tell ended up in real estate. Got good at it. Was doing everything by relationship. And about 2011 I was in an office where everyone was taking note that my husband and I weren't doing door knocking and bus benches and grocery carts and all the other things that realtors are taught to do. And so they were like, Hey, can you teach us what you're doing? I was like, Sure. So I did a class, and I'll never forget, a woman in her 70s came up to me, she looked me dead in the eye, kind of rudely said, you should never go on a listing appointment another day in your life. You should do this for the rest of your life. And I didn't think much of it then, but it has stuck in the back of my head. And so from there, Lesley, it just snowballed. I just kept doing more classes and more classes that led to stages, that led to bigger stages, and that led to me truly not believing but understanding and feeling the itch and the need that I do have thoughts, I do have ideas that can help people. I have a gift on stage, which not everybody does, and I need to pour into that, lean into that and move into this new next chapter of my life. Lesley Logan 6:44  Wow. First of all, thank you for taking us on the journey of how when that was because I think some people would go, Oh, look at Barb Betts. It happened in like, three the four years that they've known each other, you know, like, like the year before they met, she figured this out, she taught a couple things, and now she's a paid speaker. Like, everything starts back with and I have a similar story where somebody told me, like, they asked me a question, how are you doing what you're doing? Because whatever you're doing is different than the that the norm is doing. And you all like, for me, I love that your reaction is, like, kind of rudely. I remember thinking I was in trouble. Which is clearly an insight to the psychology of an oldest daughter. But like, I thought I was in trouble. Like, like, they're like, the way they asked, How are you doing this did not seem like they were excited about what I was doing. I had to sit there for a second realize, oh, they actually just want to know. I'm not in trouble. Barb Betts 7:31  They're actually curious. Yeah, they're not, they're not putting you down, yeah. Lesley Logan 7:35  Yeah. So then so and I say, I highlight that, because for everyone listening like there are things that you are so good at, but because it's normal for you, you don't see it as the strength right away someone has to tell you, and sometimes we're not listening to them, or we think we're in trouble, we're avoiding that information because it's scary. It would be like, I don't know. Like, owning that means changing what, how you do, what you do. Like, it's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go in this lane now that'd be really scary. Barb Betts 7:58  It was. It was really scary. And, you know, frankly, how it all happened. It was about four years ago when we met, is when I made the decision that my husband and I have ran this great real estate company for so long, but real estate's getting real scary. And I, if you don't know anything about real estate, you know, we just went through these huge lawsuits and all this other stuff, and I was kind of at the table for a lot of those conversations, and I knew how bad things really were, and I knew how much our industry was going to change. And I kind of thought to myself two things. One, I'm not fulfilled anymore. Just, I hate to say just, going on listing appointments, working with buyers, it just doesn't fulfill me the same way it used to. And then the second piece to that was, I am concerned that all of our income is in one basket, and if the bottom falls out of the real estate industry again, then we're screwed. And so how do I diversify my income and follow my passion? And so it was scary, because I was and then what were my clients going to think, and was my husband still going to have enough business? And I was the one that started our real estate you know, I was 23 years he's 19, but I was the face of the company, the face of the team. So like, will he still generate enough business without me helping him? All those things were super scary. Well, it turns out, fast forward, he's a better realtor than I ever was, and although he is completely different than me, he still gets the same thing accomplished. So it all worked out, and I'm doing what I love, and he's crushing, you know, his side of the world. And I still help in the real estate business. I still run our team and train and teach and all that kind of stuff, but my day to day, full time role is putting good thoughts and ideas out into the world and inspiring others from stage.Lesley Logan 9:34  So let's talk about those good thoughts and ideas because, and we kind of alluded to at the very beginning, we were talking about these DMs. You talk about authentic, like building authentic relationships and at the time I'm recording this you guys, which is, you know, a little bit before this comes out, I ran, I was at a real estate event. That's not a real estate event. It was a tequila tasting event, which, like, hello, I'm tequila. I'm in. I have liked, I want to do tequila sommelier. That is my next dream. If you if I disappear from this earth, I'm probably learning tequila you guys. So just know that. So I'm at this tequila event, and it's basically the way that he builds relationships, friendships, connects with people, and that's he's like, I don't do any of the things. This is how I do it. I had no idea what he does actually like until the day. But at any rate, I ran into a friend who I've known since, like, 15 years ago in LA, she and I both moved to Vegas, didn't know it, because, like, where we used to cross paths had changed, so I got to have, like, a sit down coffee date with her, and we're talking about how hard it is as an adult to build good friendships, great friendships. And I don't have children, so I don't even have the excuse of running into parents I may or may not, like, like, I have to just, like, look around a coffee shop and wonder, like, is that a future person for me, but in, everyone who's listening here, most every business requires good, authentic relationships, most hobbies, most like, fulfillments in life doesn't matter. So we can go business or personal, but like, everything kind of, I think, plays into the same thing. The authentic relationships are what make this world go round. How do we do that? Barb Betts 11:06  Yeah, great, great question. So, you know, one of my biggest mantras is in life is to have a real relationship with anyone else, you first have to have a relationship with yourself. I think the biggest problem we have in life is we're trying to build relationships with others, and we don't even know who we are. And so when we show up to these relationships, when we show up to these conversations, we're being fake, and we're trying to people-please, and we're trying to make the other person like us by not being who we really are. And when that happens, they're building a relationship with an inauthentic version of you. I like to say something to the effect of relationships are a mirror of yourself. You are only capable of building a relationship with someone else to the capacity you have one with yourself. So like what you see in you is what you will attract in others. And until we clean up the relationship with ourselves, we can't build one with anybody else. Lesley Logan 11:57  Oh, Barb. Barb Betts 12:00  It's the truth. I learned it the hard way. And then when I when I talk about this, I also stand on stage and tell people that this version that you are seeing up here right now, I was not this version five years ago. And so this is not something that I'm telling you. Everyone knows when they're 25 years old, absolutely not. But can 25 year olds learn it a lot sooner than potentially you and I have? Absolutely. I think problem is we have to have the courage to do it. Lesley Logan 12:22  Yeah, because I do think I appreciate you saying that like I think the older we get, the harder it is to kind of unpack the different masks we might have been wearing, some of us wearing because maybe we have a neuro divergence. And so we think we need to have those masks. Some of them are learned because of how we're grown up. And so then you have to unpack that and also recognize how long you've been carrying it. And then you have to get to know yourself. And that's so hard. Every time I hear like, getting to know yourself, I think of runaway bride when Julia Roberts is trying to figure out how she likes her eggs. Like, I think that's the perfect example of like, I don't know, do I like? Barb Betts 12:56  Well, this is so I always tell people I have, like, a big beef with the word authenticity, and yet that's what I speak on. I have a beef with this word because it's the most overused under explained word ever. It was Merriam Webster's word of the year in 2023 yet everyone has a different definition of it. The problem with the word authenticity is people think authenticity means throwing up your life on somebody. And I always say that's called oversharing. That is not authenticity. So one of the things you you said it in a different container a second ago, is, I'm so tired of this mantra of people telling people, and in self-help books and on Instagram posts and everywhere else, just be yourself. Just be authentic. And my question to audiences is, do you even know what that means? Do you even know what it means to be yourself. And the problem I have with the word be is, be is very performative. What do you want to be for Halloween? What do you want to be when you grow up? It's futuristic. It's performative. It's not real. It's not in real time. And so what I teach audiences is, what helped me tremendously, is reframing this conversation around authenticity and giving it not necessarily a new definition, but a new action to get there. And so what I've come up with, what I've used, what I've seen in my own life, is that authenticity isn't about doing anything. Authenticity is about undoing everything that isn't you and you said it right? Layers of performance, layers of protection, the masks we've been wearing, the perfect mom title, the perfect friend title, the perfect Pilates instructor, title all of these titles and things that we've been told we have to be so we try to be them, but we're really not them, or we're not them in the way that someone else wants us to be so how do we start undoing these things that have been holding us back? And for me, personally, it to, you said it, mine started on the playground when I was a little girl. I was overweight, I was not cute. I had coke bottle, thick glasses, I had braces. I had like five strikes in the you're the left out weird kid department. Lesley Logan 15:01  Barb, we and I, we would have been friends. Barb Betts 15:03  I was lonely. I was sat by myself, ate lunch by myself more times than I can count. I was also an old child, so I didn't go home to a bunch of, you know, siblings running around. And so what I always tell people is I became a professional on the playground of fitting in. I became a professional at turning myself into whatever someone else wanted me to be, to be their friend. Problem with that is that eight year old little girl never put those masks down. I kept wearing them my whole adult life. And that's the problem. We don't have enough courage or self-reflection, to sit back and go, you know, is this really how I want to show up in the world? Because you know what it is deep down inside, everybody does. And if someone has to tell you what it is, that's not authenticity, because that's someone else's opinion, right? So. Lesley Logan 15:56  Well, I had perm bangs, just just the bangs part.Barb Betts 16:01  Just the bangs. Lesley Logan 16:02  And and I will say, like, I love that I wore a flower girl dress to school one day. But also, I'm sure that's the day that people are like, well, that's like, you guys a big it's I went to school in the 80s. So this would have been '88, '89 a pink, like pink, big dress with the big bows, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I know I looked good and I had tennis. I was Punky Brewster before it existed. But for sure, for sure, so I know that's what changed, and now that's why I wear, you know, tool now. Barb Betts 16:40  Oh my gosh, yeah, I I love it. I put a picture up on the screen of me, and I always give the audience a second to realize that is me circa 1986 because they're literally looking at the picture and looking at me like, there's no chance that's her. Because some people are like, Oh, your childhood wasn't that bad. You weren't and then they see a picture and they're like, my my friends, when I show them the picture, I'll just pull it out at dinner, and they pee their pants, and these are friends that have been friends of mine for 20 years, and they're like, no chance that's you. Like, yeah, it is. Lesley Logan 17:13  So I want to, so, okay, we have to do the undoing. We have to, you know, really, truly find what authenticity is within ourselves, and I do. I'm with you, by the way. Okay. Side note, there was a podcast that did the war on dictionaries, and if you it's you're wrong about podcasts, you guys, that came out last year, you have to listen to it, because it's about why Merriam Webster became the dictionary that we all buy. It's so fascinating. I mean, who knew that could be fascinating? This whole book about it, at any rate, because I feel like authenticity is like an umbrella term for, like, vulnerability and all these different things. So you hit all that. So okay, and you mentioned that our relationships are a mirror of ourselves, so they can only go as deep as we can go as deep with ourselves. In the undoing does does that and making really? Does that make it easier to make new friendships? Does that make it hard to let go, because now I feel like you have to let go of other relationships like, and you're a relationship expert. Should we be letting go of people? Barb Betts 18:08  Well, if they truly don't fit who you really are, right? If you truly are not being yourself with them, and then when you are yourself with them, if you're not accepted, not appreciated, not felt loved, then absolutely there are friendships and relationships that I realized I was carrying on to because I thought they were the cool people to be with. And it turns out that they're really not, and they don't love me for who I really am, or my voice or my opinion. So I share it in a simple formula, and we don't have to get deep into each one of them, but I'll just give you the high level of the three things. There's lots of things you can do to start unraveling, but the three things that like changed my life the most that I feel like are the three that most specifically women deal with, men too, but really women, the first is to stop hiding, right? Because I always say, when you hide who you are, you limit who you can become. And I have a whole hair loss journey that you know very well. I wear wigs full time, and that's really what transformed my life is when I was going through this hair loss journey, and about five years ago, I decided to rip the band aid off. I was told my hair is never coming back by a very well-respected hair surgeon, and I decided to transition to human hair wigs, came out publicly on social media about it, changed my life. And that's how I know when you stop hiding behind who you really are, right, you can become who you're really designed to be. The second piece that I always talk about is we have to reframe comparison. I think comparison is the thief of authenticity, and I think it's the number one trap as adults, we get into. Social media, at your job, in your career, right? Some other Pilates owners doing better than me. I hate them. Why can't I be like them? All of the things? So when I say reframe comparison, what I mean is, instead of comparing yourself to someone else, instead, come from curiosity, like, they are showing you the path to success. They're showing you that you can do it. You just have to do it in your own way. And get curious about what are they doing? What's their background? What season of life are they in? Maybe you're not in that same season. Like you just said, you don't have kids. You can get in a van and travel the world. If another Pilates owner or, you know, instructor is comparing themselves to you and Brad's ability to do that, but they have three children at home. Guess what? You're running a race you can't win, but we still do it. You think, Oh, they've got it all together. Oh, they made the perfect lunch, or they did this, or they, you know, whatever, their top producer, and I'm not. And so reframe comparison with curiosity, and then the third, and people always think I'm crazy when I say it, until I unpack it, is we have to embrace self-doubt, right? We look at self-doubt and imposter syndrome as this negative feeling, and it's not. Self-doubt, I believe, is the space where your confidence is actually born, right? If you don't have some kind of doubt, you're not going anywhere. We all have it. And if you tell me you don't have doubt, I would argue that you're not being authentic, right? Imposter syndrome, right? I'm so tired of imposter syndrome being put in this container as you're a fraud or you're a fake. Imposter syndrome is simply a sign you're growing, you're stepping into some new version of you, right? It's like we have to look at these as green lights, not stop signs, and we have to push through them, because that is how you build confidence from the inside. It's not given to you. It's truly built by you stepping into these new containers that you need to be in, new rooms you need to be in new opportunities, new everything. And so I think those are the three biggest things that I help people with, is really breaking through those. And when you do those, when you stop hiding, you're breaking down your walls, right? When you learn to turn comparison into something positive, you rewire your brain. You're looking at it as like envy and as success, and I can do that. And then when you embrace self-doubt, right? You're taking something that's completely normal, and you're stepping through it, which is how you, how you, I believe, break through the walls. Lesley Logan 22:01  I couldn't agree more with all that. I actually like the one reason I think I love that Pilates is in my life as long as it is, no matter what facet it's become, it's because it's a way that I'm allowed to be curious in my body, right? Like, like, why is this exercise so hard today It wasn't hard yesterday? Like, it's a way to practice curiosity, which is something that like, for better, for worse, the way the education system was when I was growing up, you're not curious. You memorize and you get the answer right, or you get it wrong. So I it's taken as an adult, this way of practicing being curious, because that's not something that's natural for me. I want to highlight the self-doubt thing, because I think that is so good, because I would be like, with this imposter syndrome. I remember Seth Godin going, Yeah, well, if you're new at something, of course you're going to feel that because you're new. And it's like to me, I just tell people, congratulations, you're not a narcissist. A narcissist will never feel that way and the way that you just said it. It's so funny, because I didn't realize I have a process. I will come up with an idea. I will then have self-doubt. I have to go through that so that I can go, Well, what am I doubting about it? How do I either get rid of that or, like, learn the thing I need to learn, or research the thing I need to do, whatever I've got this project that I'm working on this year. And of course, as soon as I said I want to do it, I immediately was like, who am I to do this? What, like, Well, how would I solve that problem? How do I solve that problem? And in going through the self-doubt questions, I can figure out the things, and now I have even more confidence in the thing that I'm doing, because I went through the things that I was doubting and explored what that was. And I think that your positive reframe. I think every single person, if they can go, Oh, I feel like that's a load off of your shoulders right now, I feel free. Barb Betts 23:37  It is, well, you said it, right. Okay, so when you feel the doubt and you truly don't know how to do something, or don't know, then you get help, shore up your weaknesses, pull in people around you, or truly understand you have been you have been gifted this opportunity. You've been invited into this room, whatever it may be, because someone else, or the universe, God, whoever, sees something in you that you can't see in yourself yet. But if you don't embrace that and you hold yourself back, you're not going to go anywhere in life, right? You tell me, you show me any successful person that you put on a pedestal that you think has never doubted themselves. The difference is, they know they're imperfect. They know they're going to make mistakes, and they choose to show up anyways, right? Think about Gary Vee. Everyone worships Gary Vee. Gary Vee is amazing, right? He's up on this world level that so many of us are like, Oh my god. Started out selling wine on the internet, on YouTube, you think he knew what he was doing? Absolutely not, right? You think he was comfortable in video? Go back and watch him. He was not, right? He did it anyways, and he was okay with showing up. Clearly, he's very authentic and does whatever he wants to do, but people love him for it. So when you you mentioned earlier like this whole like leaving people behind, and what do we do? And does it change who we are? It absolutely does. It 100% does. But what I know for a fact, because when you choose authenticity, when you choose to show up real, relatable and human, I know for a fact, you give others permission to do the same, and that is the foundation of human connection, and that's how you build real relationships. When I chose to go through my hair loss journey, take my hair off on social media and show everybody my basically bald front of my head, I upleveled my relationships big time in ways I never could have imagined. Because it turns out, people want authenticity. They want humanity, and it gives others permission to do the same with you, and that's how you create a real relationship. Lesley Logan 25:42  Yeah, oh, I got chills. I I think that's so interesting that we we fear losing people by changing who we are, because we're becoming more of ourselves. We're, like, truly not just leveling up, because that can be a little masculine, but, like, I'll just say that leveling up ourselves, right? We're like, like, owning all the things about ourselves, owning our imperfections, owning our desires and all that. And other people will level up they'll be like, Oh my gosh, like, they're being pulled with you, and that requires and then some people won't. Sometimes those people just fall off. You don't even notice it. And they'll be like, Oh my God. I haven't talked to the person in a year, and that is a sign they let themselves go. They let themselves out the door. Barb Betts 26:27  Yup, well, and I also always want to make sure that I give this footnote, because what I don't want people to think is, you know, there's a filter that you have to put yourself through. And I hate using the word filter, but it's the best way for people to understand, right? Because authenticity without this filter can be arrogance, can be a turn off. Because what I always say is, there's different rooms you're in. There's different relationships you have where you bring your authenticity to the table. And you can't bring your whole self everywhere you go. If you bring your whole self everywhere you go to a boardroom, versus maybe, how maybe you have a funny personality and you're a jokester that may be okay at home or around the dinner table with your friends, but it may not be appropriate in the boardroom with the senior vice president of your company. May not be into your jokes that day, right? So what I always say is authenticity with an emotional intelligence lens, being aware of who's around you. What environment are you in? What's appropriate, what's not is how you have influence in life. It's how you build these real influential relationships. Because I may have a political opinion, everyone has one, it may not be appropriate to talk about that with a new client, right? It doesn't mean I'm being inauthentic. It just means I'm choosing not to share that part of me with somebody. And so what I always say is the parts of you that you do bring have to be authentic. So like, you don't have to bring your whole self everywhere you go, the parts of you that are showing up have to be real, and they have to be authentic. Lesley Logan 28:07  Yeah, I love that so much, because, like with the ADHD brain that I have, if I were to bring my whole self to every meeting, people would not be able to follow along. Barb Betts 28:18  Correct, 100%, like, you're authentic. You just said, I have ADHD that's being authentic. Yeah. Lesley Logan 28:25  Yeah. So I and like, I think, like, it's having that okay, so in this space, this is how I can at least, so, okay, right? There was all the ADHD that you just experienced, because my brain went to three places being able to say, Okay, I'm aware that I'm going to be going in a different direction where this conversation is going. I promise it's going to circle back, because my brain is going to get us there. But yeah, I have to know that. And if I, if I mask that, then probably the best ideas are going to come for me, because that's what I'm good at. But also I'm not going to share the four other thoughts that happened over here at the same time. Barb Betts 29:00  Correct. Yes, yes. You know what it is. You know, some people have quirks. Some people have things about them that are, you know, appropriate for, again, your friends at the bar, but they're not appropriate for the boardroom or for the sales call or for the Pilates class while you're teaching, or, you know, things like that. So I think it's just understanding that what can't happen is you masking and pretending to be somebody or something you're not. That's what can't happen that people can smell and sniff out right away. Lesley Logan 29:30  Yeah, they can. And I and to go back to, like, this whole thing, like, it doesn't matter what the relationships are for, whether it's because you want a partner or you want a best friend, or you want a dog walking buddy, or you want, you know, to get a sale out of someone, you have to bring the authentic parts of yourself to that experience so that they can also make the correct decision as well. Barb Betts 29:52  Yes, because you don't want people that want to be friends with the not real you. Because then that's why your relationship never goes deep. That's why you never feel connected. That's why you never feel excited about seeing them. All of those should be clues that either you're not showing up real or they're not the real friendship for you, and not everybody is going to be your friend, not everybody is going to have a relationship with you, and that is okay. I promise you, the real people that you are meant to be surrounded with will come out of the woodwork when you embody this, you know, authentic way of showing up in life. Lesley Logan 30:32  Yeah, oh my gosh, I'm glad you highlighted it's okay. Like, I grew up thinking like everyone needed to like me. Right? I like, how many people are, like, nodding their head, like grew up that ever needed to like me. And the reality is, is like, I that's not true, and also doesn't set you up for being able to be yourself in every room. And there's, I saw something that that I've quoted him many times, and so, just so you know, if you've ever heard me say, I don't I saw on a shirt or, like, a bag you could take the grocery store. It's, like, it said, not, it's, not everyone like me I'm not a taco. And, like, because there's all, there's a taco for everybody, and I'm just, but I'm not going to be everyone's taco. Barb Betts 31:11  100% 100% Well, and, you know, and it's also, you know, again, we don't have to go down this rabbit hole, but we were talking about it earlier, about how do you build relationships with others? And so you have to show up authentic and real. But then I also believe there's three key factors to every relationship. So this might because I know we wanted to talk about, obviously, the relationship with ourselves, but how do we build these relationships with others? And so I'll share that the I created a formula, I wrote about it in my new book, that there's three things that have to be present always in order to have a real relationship. And these are the things I think people miss. And I don't care if this is sales, leadership, friendship, family, romantic, I don't care what it is they have to have these three things. And I call it the VVR formula, and it's visibility, vulnerability and relatability. You don't have those three things, you can't have a relationship, and it works with yourself too. So talk about visibility, right? You have to be present. You have to show up. When people are like, I don't have relationships that I want, I don't have friends, well, are you actually visible? Are you showing up? Are you present? And then when you are present, are you really present? Or are you on your phone, right? Like, are you at the cocktail party, networking and trying to meet people, or are you in your phone in the corner, right? Yeah. Then there's vulnerability. You have to have some level of vulnerability with every other human in your life, or you don't have a relationship, right? And vulnerability can be everything from just telling your team, you know, I don't know the answer to that, right? Or it can be, I don't like the new software either, that they're asking us to use, but guess what? It's what we've been handed and we have to learn it, right? Then there's all the way level of vulnerability, where you're sharing your deepest, darkest secrets with your best friends. I'm not sick, because when people hear vulnerability, they think, I don't want to be vulnerable. Well, you have to have some level of it, or you can't have a human relationship. And then the third is relatability, right? You have to have some point of connection. And this is the thing I think people force. I think people force this, right, if you do not have something that you can relate to each other on whether it be a favorite sports team, or you both love Pilates, or you both love wine or tequila, or you both love a certain sport, or you both have kids, you have to have some kind of relatability with another human. It's why, when you go to networking events and cocktail parties and everything else, and you know, you and I have been in these rooms where someone wants to be in your contact information, and you're like, nope, not saving that in my phone. Pretend I save it, but not saving it. It's because you had nothing in common when you had your conversation. If you did, you would have wanted to save that information and create a relationship. So when were talking about building relationships with others. I just want everyone to know that I believe if you focus on those three things, how can I be more visible? How can I be vulnerable, and how can I be relatable? You will create more relationships than you know what to do with them, if you want them. Lesley Logan 33:47  Yes. And I also, I was just thinking like, you know, I have some friendships that the relatability changed during covid, they got they had a baby, I moved, all these different things. And so our friendships have changed. They didn't disappear, but we are finding new things to relate on, because the major things in our lives aren't relatable anymore. And so I think relationships can go through that. And if you really want them to stay, you find a new thing to be relatable on. Barb Betts 34:12  100% or or visibility, which is also the proximity principle, which is also the law of propinquity. Try to say that 10 times fast. The law of propinquity basically says that the greater the physical or psychological proximity is between people, the greater the chance they'll have a relationship, right? So if you are not either physically or psychologically in someone's proximity, you're not going to have a relationship. So we wonder why in sales, our relationships drift away. Well, are you seeing them or marketing to them? Because if you're not, they're not coming back. Right. Are they showing up to class? If they're not showing up to class, you can't, but you can't have a relationship with them. So how do you get back in visibility with them? How do you get back in proximity with them? That's why it's first, because you're right. Relationships drift away, good or bad, for various different reasons. But if you want to bring it back to center, then get visible with somebody. Get vulnerable with somebody. Vulnerability can be texting Lesley and being like, Lesley, I miss you, I miss seeing each other in six months. I really miss you. Can we get together? That's being vulnerable because you're admitting I haven't been in touch with you. Right? And then relatability, finding a new point like to your like you just said, you have friends that all of a sudden started having kids during Covid, and you guys don't have kids, and so they're doing off all the little tiny kids stuff, and you and Brad aren't interested in guess what? That's normal. You don't have to be interested in little kids stuff, right? So that's creates a little bit of a relatability difference. But can you have a relatability on something else that you're both interested in?Lesley Logan 34:15  Yeah, I feel like I could talk to you for hours. We are going to take a brief break and find out where I can get your book, because obviously I my interest is piqued. There's going to be other things to go along with once we get the first step down, then there's the next steps. And so we'll take a brief break and find out and get those books. Lesley Logan 34:15  All right. Barb, where? Where are your books sold? Barb Betts 34:15  Books are sold everywhere. Lesley Logan 34:15  What's the name of the book? Barb Betts 34:15  The book is The Relationship Advantage: Unlocking the Life-Changing Power of Human Connection. Just look under the relationship advantage. Easiest way to find it, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Books a Million, as they say, with a deep commercial voice, everywhere books are sold. Lesley Logan 34:15  Yes, well, we're gonna get your book because I definitely, I mean, I've over the four years, I need to know you in this topic. Like every time I hear you speak, I hear a different way of it going, and I think it's the way of the future, even if people think it's AI, it might be AI, relationships are gonna be the thing. Not everyone wants to play with your AI tool if they don't know who you are. Barb Betts 34:15  Well, that's why I wrote the book, and I wrote it in three sections, and and just to give you the high level overview, it's the first section is all the relationships with yourself. The second section is, how do you build effective relationships with others? And then the third section is how relationships make an impact in your life. One chapter on sales, one chapter on leadership, one chapter on building community. And then the final chapter is how relationships are our legacy. Lesley Logan 34:15  You're brilliant, and also, you know, you're you're, you're Barb Betts on the on the gram, correct? And on LinkedIn, and all the things? Barb Betts 34:15  Everywhere grams are found. Lesley Logan 34:15  Yeah, okay, you have actually given us so many tools. I feel like we could just, like, clip it and go, there's your Be It Action Items. But just in case, you have other things to add to that, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what you have for us? Barb Betts 37:21  I would say it comes down to the authenticity. It comes down to stop hiding, let your walls down, let people in. Admit you're not perfect. Admit where you're you know your vulnerabilities are. It definitely comes down to pay attention to how you feel on social media. Pay attention to what you're looking at, how you're comparing yourself to others. Really try to change that neuroscience in your head and reframe that into comparison. And I promise you, one of the things I tell people all the time is just DM somebody when you feel right, that that effort to compare DM Lesley and be like, Oh my gosh, your road show looks amazing. I'm so proud of you, even though you're looking at Lesley like, so successful. Everybody like her, right? And then the third, obviously, is when you next time you feel that self-doubt, friends, please look at it just in your head, think green light. Think green light. Think green light. That means put your foot down on the gas pedal and go. That is your clue to push harder, to go, to go do the thing, because it will change who you are.Lesley Logan 38:17  I love those. I love all of this. This whole conversation has lit me up. I'm so excited. You guys, please let Barb Betts know what your favorite parts were, what your takeaways were. If you were envious then you know what to do, she just gave you the tool to how to say that. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it. You know also it might that might even be a way of being vulnerable, like, hey, this really meant a lot to me. I think it could be really great for us both to figure this out. So I just think that there's so many different ways to take this. Go get Barb's book. I'm gonna get it wherever books are sold, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 39:31  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 39:36  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 39:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 39:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 39:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

I Dare You
Why Great Networking Isn't Getting You More Opportunities with Barb Betts

I Dare You

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2026 50:07


The fastest way to grow your influence is not better networking. It's building real connections that build trust, open doors, and create opportunities you do not have to chase. In this week's episode, I sit down with Barb Betts, keynote speaker and human connection expert, to talk about this and more.  Barb did not start on big stages. She built her career from the ground up, spent more than two decades in real estate, trained thousands, and turned relationship-building into her superpower. She shares how the same skill that helped her grow a seven-figure business is the same skill that helps global leaders, entrepreneurs, and aspiring speakers become unforgettable. Barb also addresses people-pleasing, how to follow up without sounding awkward, and building meaningful relationships in life and business. If you want to grow your personal brand and build deeper connections without feeling fake, this conversation will show you how. "It's not about how many people you know, it's about how many people feel known by you." ~ Barb Betts In This Episode: - Barb's background and growth in relationships - From real estate success to keynote speaking - Why introverts struggle with networking - Barb's hair loss story and authenticity breakthrough - Regaining self-love: the four permissions for self-trust - How to stop people-pleasing - Tips for creating a five-star relationship - Barb's book launch details Pre-order Barb's Book, The Relationship Advantage: Order now:  https://therelationshipadvantagebook.com/ About Barb Betts Barb Betts is a keynote speaker, CEO, relationship strategist, and author of The Relationship Advantage who has spent more than 23 years building businesses and leading high-performing teams. She built a seven-figure business for over a decade through authentic, trust-based relationships, and that real-world success now fuels the work she does with leaders and organizations like Fidelity, Fairway Mortgage, Horsepower Brands, LVMH, and Thelios. With more than a decade of leadership experience in North America's largest trade association and features including Us Weekly, Barb is known for helping teams grow through confidence, authenticity, and human connection. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barbbetts  Website: https://barbbetts.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barbmbetts  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbbetts  Where to find me: IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_gottlieb/    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jen_gottlieb     Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jenleahgottlieb    Website: https://jengottlieb.com/    My business: https://www.superconnectormedia.com/     YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jen_gottlieb

Real Estate by Relationship™
S2 Ep. 31: Magnetic Leadership: Why Authenticity Builds Trust and Influence, with Whitney Faires

Real Estate by Relationship™

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2025 38:48


Today I'm joined by Whitney Faires, internationally recognized coach, keynote speaker, and executive leader, for a powerful conversation about magnetic presence, authenticity, and real connection. We unpack why being magnetic is not about being loud, why authenticity is not the same as being unfiltered, and how vulnerability builds trust in leadership, sales, and life. We talk relational drift, emotional intelligence, and the small, intentional moments that create loyalty, influence, and impact. You'll leave rethinking how you show up, how you lead, and how connection truly changes everything.https://whitneyfaires.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitney-faires-14955a38/Let's Stay in Touch! Sign up HERE today!Connect with Barb BettsInstagram: @barbbettsLinkedin: @barbbettsFacebook: @barbarambettsYouTube: youtube/@barbbettsWebsite: www.barbbetts.comBarb Betts is a keynote speaker, CEO, and author who teaches leaders and professionals how to drive growth through authentic, trust-based relationships. With over 23 years of success building multi-million-dollar businesses and leading top-performing sales teams, Barb brings real-world experience and a proven approach to human connection in business. A respected industry leader for more than a decade within the largest trade association in North America, she offers powerful insight into how relationships fuel performance, retention, and results. Barb has worked with top organizations including Fidelity, Fairway Mortgage, Horsepower Brands, LVMH, and Thelios. Her high-energy, actionable keynotes inspire professionals to connect with confidence, lead with authenticity, and transform how they do business—proving that relationships aren't just a soft skill, they're your greatest advantage.

Real Estate by Relationship™
S2 Ep. 30: My Top 8 Books of 2025 That Changed How I Think, Lead, and Live

Real Estate by Relationship™

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 17:30


In this solo episode, I'm sharing the eight books I read (and reread) in 2025 that most shaped how I think, lead, and live. From health and energy, to stress, visibility, relationships, and personal brand, these books met me exactly where I was and helped guide me into what's next. If you're building your 2026 reading list or reflecting on the year behind you, this episode will give you a few powerful additions for your library and your life.Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health by Casey Means MD Springboard: Transform Stress to Work for You by Dr. Rebecca HeissBE SEEN: Find Your Voice. Build Your Brand. Live Your Dream. by Jen Gottlieb The Pivot Year by Brianna WiestUnreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect by Will GuidaraBe Who You Came To Be by Tara Renze The Let Them Theory by Mel RobbinsWealthy and Well-Known: Build Your Personal Brand and Turn Your Reputation into Revenue by by Rory Vaden and AJ VadenLet's Stay in Touch! Sign up HERE today!Connect with Barb BettsInstagram: @barbbettsLinkedin: @barbbettsFacebook: @barbarambettsYouTube: youtube/@barbbettsWebsite: www.barbbetts.comBarb Betts is a keynote speaker, CEO, and author who teaches leaders and professionals how to drive growth through authentic, trust-based relationships. With over 23 years of success building multi-million-dollar businesses and leading top-performing sales teams, Barb brings real-world experience and a proven approach to human connection in business. A respected industry leader for more than a decade within the largest trade association in North America, she offers powerful insight into how relationships fuel performance, retention, and results. Barb has worked with top organizations including Fidelity, Fairway Mortgage, Horsepower Brands, LVMH, and Thelios. Her high-energy, actionable keynotes inspire professionals to connect with confidence, lead with authenticity, and transform how they do business—proving that relationships aren't just a soft skill, they're your greatest advantage.

Real Estate by Relationship™
Unmute Yourself: Finding Worthiness, Voice, and Action with Rachel Druckenmiller

Real Estate by Relationship™

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2025 41:28


Today I'm joined by Rachel Druckenmiller, keynote speaker, TEDx presenter, singer-songwriter, and Forbes Next 1000 entrepreneur, whose mission is to help leaders and teams stop shrinking back and step fully into their impact. We unpack Rachel's “VOICE” method (Void, Opportunity, Illumination, Catalyst, Expression), the roots of playing small, and how to reconnect with the nine-year-old version of you who needed to feel seen. We talk worthiness as the core of wellness, borrowing belief from others, and designing days that make you feel alive. You'll leave ready to speak up, show up, and take bold, meaningful action.https://www.racheldruckenmiller.com/https://www.instagram.com/unmutedlife/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelbdruckenmiller/Let's Stay in Touch! Sign up HERE today!Connect with Barb BettsInstagram: @barbbettsLinkedin: @barbbettsFacebook: @barbarambettsYouTube: youtube/@barbbettsWebsite: www.barbbetts.comBarb Betts is a keynote speaker, CEO, and author who teaches leaders and professionals how to drive growth through authentic, trust-based relationships. With over 23 years of success building multi-million-dollar businesses and leading top-performing sales teams, Barb brings real-world experience and a proven approach to human connection in business. A respected industry leader for more than a decade within the largest trade association in North America, she offers powerful insight into how relationships fuel performance, retention, and results. Barb has worked with top organizations including Fidelity, Fairway Mortgage, Horsepower Brands, LVMH, and Thelios. Her high-energy, actionable keynotes inspire professionals to connect with confidence, lead with authenticity, and transform how they do business—proving that relationships aren't just a soft skill, they're your greatest advantage.

Real Estate by Relationship™
S2 Ep. 28: The Quiet Reason You're Losing Relationships (And How to Rebuild Them)

Real Estate by Relationship™

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2025 14:07


Relationships rarely end in conflict, they end in the slow fade we never intended. Today I break down the three sneaky causes of relational drift, busyness, assumptions, and avoidance, and how they cost us friendships, clients, and opportunities. I walk you through how to recalibrate your most important people using my five-star ranking system and the cadence that ensures no one slips through the cracks again. It's simple, it's doable, and it will change your 2026.Let's Stay in Touch! Sign up HERE today!Connect with Barb BettsInstagram: @barbbettsLinkedin: @barbbettsFacebook: @barbarambettsYouTube: youtube/@barbbettsWebsite: www.barbbetts.comBarb Betts is a keynote speaker, CEO, and author who teaches leaders and professionals how to drive growth through authentic, trust-based relationships. With over 23 years of success building multi-million-dollar businesses and leading top-performing sales teams, Barb brings real-world experience and a proven approach to human connection in business. A respected industry leader for more than a decade within the largest trade association in North America, she offers powerful insight into how relationships fuel performance, retention, and results. Barb has worked with top organizations including Fidelity, Fairway Mortgage, Horsepower Brands, LVMH, and Thelios. Her high-energy, actionable keynotes inspire professionals to connect with confidence, lead with authenticity, and transform how they do business—proving that relationships aren't just a soft skill, they're your greatest advantage.

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Sales Talk for CEOs
Ep166 Relationships Before Revenue: Barb Betts' System to Scale Sales Through Trust

Sales Talk for CEOs

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 48:16


From rookie agent to revenue powerhouse, Barb Betts built her business on one thing—relationships. In this episode, she shares with Alice Heiman the exact system CEOs can use to turn their network into a sales engine. Stop chasing leads and start building trust that scales.

The Skin Real
When Nothing is Working for Your Hair Loss- One Person's Journey

The Skin Real

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2024 44:12


Check out Dr. Mina's top picks for skin care here. Get Dr. Mina's free PDF on How to create Healthy Skin Habits here. I've talked about hair loss so many times, and yet, people still have so many questions. Why? Because hair loss is something almost everyone faces with aging, and it can be emotionally tough for both men and women. If you live long enough, hair loss will happen, regardless of gender. But what if it starts earlier? Like in your 20s? And especially if you're a woman?  For some women, hair loss isn't just something they deal with later in life, it's something they've been struggling with since their teenage years. And while we've come a long way in treating hair loss, there's no magic pill that fixes it all. The truth is, it's way more than just a cosmetic issue—it's tied to how we see ourselves, our confidence, and even how we show up in the world. But here's the thing—embracing hair loss can actually be a powerful way to step into your authentic self.  Check out this week's podcast featuring Barb Betts as she shares her hair loss journey. She discusses how it began, the treatments she explored, and the hardest parts of her experience. If you're dealing with hair loss, you definitely won't want to miss this one! Key Takeaways: - Hair loss can have a significant emotional impact and is often accompanied by a stigma. - Finding a long-term solution for hair loss can be challenging, and it may require trying various treatments and products. - Wearing a wig or hairpiece can provide a sense of confidence and allow individuals to embrace their authentic selves. - Sharing personal experiences with hair loss can help others going through similar struggles. - Sharing your story and being authentic can lead to unexpected support and empowerment. - Everyone has their own unique hair story and something they may be hiding or feeling ashamed of. - Wigs can be a great solution for hair loss, providing versatility and the ability to style and care for them like natural hair. - Hair loss is a complex issue with various causes, and not all treatments or products work for everyone. - Finding confidence and self-acceptance is key to living a fulfilling and authentic life. In This Episode: (7:50) Hair Loss Begins at a Young Age (10:20) Discovering Underlying Conditions (13:44) The Emotional Impact of Hair Loss (18:58) Hair Transplant as a Potential Solution (25:37) The Power of Sharing and Authenticity (30:28) The Freedom and Confidence of Wearing Wigs (32:55)Taking Care of Wigs and Embracing Change 35:45) The Complexity of Hair Loss and Treatment Options (38:15) Finding Peace and Confidence (41:20) The Transformative Power of Authenticity Barb Betts, CEO of Relately Marketing, is a sought-after keynote speaker and entrepreneur. She has captivated stages at LVMH, Thelios, Fidelity National, Inman Connect, and the National Association of REALTORS® Annual Conference. With over 20 years of experience, Barb teaches professionals through her signature program, RELATE, on leveraging authentic relationships to grow their business. Barb emphasizes that relationships are both an art and a science, achievable through structured and measurable actions. Her high-energy presentations inspire audiences to build trust-based relationships, leading to more referrals, revenue and loyal clients. Barb's approach equips businesses to confidently adapt and thrive in any industry. On a personal note, Barb's never met a steakhouse she didn't like and when she's not speaking on a stage you can find her indulging in some retail therapy and spending time with her family!  Follow Barb Betts here: Website: www.barbbetts.com Instagram: instagram.com/barbbetts Facebook: facebook.com/barbmbetts LinkedIN: linkedin.com/in/barbbetts Youtube: youtube.com/channel/UCSQ2LZ01NXSZYfP8yw3xfbw Podcast:podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relationships-are-your-superpower/id1530096159 Follow Dr. Mina here:- https://instagram.com/drminaskin https://www.facebook.com/drminaskin https://www.youtube.com/@drminaskin For more great skin care tips, subscribe to The Skin Real Podcast or visit www.theskinreal.com Baucom & Mina Derm Surgery, LLC Email - scheduling@atlantadermsurgery.com Contact - (404) 844-0496 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/baucomminamd/ Thanks for listening! The content of this podcast is for entertainment, educational, and informational purposes and does not constitute formal medical advice.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode LXV - Passed Lives

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 165:49


The Glorious search for the old home of their late friend, Thelios. They seeks his family, to tell them of his brave passing. Through Yartar, Silverymoon and the Moonwood they find little, until night falls over the village of Duskleaf. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode LIII - Family

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2019 148:50


The past returns. Ghosts rise. Can the Glorious survive? CONTENT WARNING: BODY HORROR Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode LII - The Hollow Crown

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2019 169:23


Enemies new and old abound as The Glorious grow closer to finally tracking down The Cult of Howling Hatred. Can the party stop them from gaining whatever it is they're after and find out what has been threatening Fort Argent? Or will they fall to the dangers of the underground jungle? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode LI - Thunder

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2019 133:56


The Glorious head further north in search of the mysterious Hollow and the elusive Air Cult. After a few more days of exhausting trekking across the ice, they come to a huge crater pocked with tunnels. Will they venture within or continue to scratch at the surface? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode L - The Last Frost

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2019 146:18


The Glorious trek further across the High Ice, searching for the origin of the strange creatures attacking Erallur's home. Taking cover in valleys and caves, the party discover trinkets and treasures seemingly frozen into the walls, along with a few...more unpleasant things. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Simon as Lora'thel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLIX - Hard Fort

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2019 115:53


The Glorious find themselves locked in the cells beneath Fort Argent, awaiting the arrival of Lord Braunwent Zalwir, Erallur's estranged father. Will they sit and wait for fate to show its hand or will they try to break its grip? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLVII - Silver Tongues

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2019 156:52


The Glorious reach the northern bastion of Silverymoon, hot on the trail of The Howling Hatred. On investigating the incident at the famous Moon Bridge, they discover magic and mystery lie at the city's very heart. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLVI - The Gauntlet

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2019 117:58


Having arrived at Yartar, the Glorious try to gather more intel on the Howling Hatred, to add to that provided by the off-putting dragonborn, Onstabun. Thelios chooses to seek out his allies at the local base of The Order of the Gauntlet. He finds a few more friends than he was expecting but it isn't all good news for the moon-elf paladin. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLV - The Cost of Words

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2019 128:06


The Glorious battle the creatures and mysteries of Feathergale Spire and its surrounds, uncovering more clues as they do. Their business at the tower concluded, they follow the grisly message left by the Howling Hatred, in the hopes of tracking the cult down before it's too late. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLIV - Whirlwind

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2019 118:02


The Glorious have reached Feathergale Spire. Finding signs of a fight but no sign of the combatants, the party heads inside. But the tower is not as deserted as it first appeared. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLIII - A Stab in the Dark

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2019 138:15


The Glorious have made it back to Waterdeep and been gifted a base of operations...of sorts. But as they settle to their rest, their new abode has attracted guests, one of whom has a rather grim message to send. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLII - Refuge

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2019 159:14


The Glorious have defeated Camius and lifted the curse on Ardrathan. But there are orcs at the gates and survivors to save. Will they escape the oncoming horde and where will they go? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XLI - The Rains Of Ardrathan

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2019 135:00


The party has found Colonel Camius in the attic of the Elder Manor, kneeling before the book that cursed Ardrathan. Can they lift the dark magic that has gripped the City? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XL - The Elder Manor

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2019 146:44


The party have made it inside The Elder Manor at last. As they navigate its eerie halls, they discover more mysteries. But will they find the answers they seek? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXIX - Guardians

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2019 135:47


Our heroes find themselves in Melora's Footprint, face to face with its ancient protector. Lor'athel is forced to see that his home is not what he believed. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXVIII - Love Puzzles

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Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2019 152:10


The party seeks out clues to solving Ardrathan's temporal plight. Venturing underground once again, they soon learn that there was far more going on in the ancient city than even Lor'athel knew. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXVII - Bones to Pick

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Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2019 121:21


The Glorious find themselves locked in a time loop. Not knowing how to break it, they set out into Ardrathan again to seek a solution. All they seem to find, however, is more mysteries. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXVI - Groundhag Day

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2019 119:55


The party pushes further into the strange weave of webs beneath Ardrathan's derelict sweet shop. They see a light flickering down the tunnel but what they discover is far darker than they hoped. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXV - Weave

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2019 120:40


The Bane Glorious have reached Ardrathan, but it is not the city of the dead they were expecting. Strange power has taken hold of Lor'athel's home and his people. Only together can the Glorious hope to break the spell. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXIV - Root and Bone Pt III

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2019 122:25


The party continues its journey through The High Forest, meeting more strange folk beneath the canopy. They learn more of Ardrathan and battle some of the orcs seeking to destroy it but can they ever be ready for what awaits within the ancient city's walls? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXIII - Root and Bone Pt II

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2019 117:09


The Glorious head further into The High Forest and towards Ardrathan. Eerie silence closes in as they start to move through the ancient city's outer ruins but there are more than orcs lurking in the shadowed woods. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXII - Root and Bone Pt I

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2019 134:13


Our intrepid party sets off for the High Forest and Lor'athel's old home, the fabled city of the Ardrathan. They stop off a few times along the way; gaining new insights into their new toys, the settlement of Daggerford, an older elven lady and the many sides of the Universe. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios and Michael as The Dungeon Master. Follow us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/roleupdandd

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXXI - The Ghosts We Haunt

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2019 131:13


The party arrives back outside the Blackstaff's Tower, having faced the trials of the Undermountain and an apparent future Airpocalypse. Informing Vajra and some of the Masked Lords of what has transpired, more revelations crawl out of the shadows - including those of a certain Eldritch Knight. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master. If you fancy then please like, subscribe and follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/roleupdandd

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Optical Business News - 2019 - Episode 6

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2019 20:01


Daniel speaks with Optical Women's Association Board President, Tiara Claxton of Thelios and Eyecare Business Magazine's Editor-in-Chief and Editorial Director, Erinn Morgan, OWA Communications Chair about their upcoming events at Vision Expo East in March. 

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXX - One in the Chamber

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2019 150:54


Having successfully captured the Professor, The Bane Glorious find themselves just outside the chamber where Flint lost everything. The strange singing subsides as they take their first steps towards solving this latest mystery. But what is The Wildernest? And are they ready for the answers they seek? Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXIX - Song of the Dead

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2019 187:47


United once more and hot on the trail of The Professor, the Bane Glorious tiptoe around the hazards of the Undermountain's fifth level. Gathering intel from a tense encounter with some drow, the party discovers that their quarry is nearby but aren't prepared for the tricks of his trade. Nor the eerie lilt of a song emanating from deeper in the dark. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXVIII - Old Friends

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2018 192:13


The still split members of The Bane Glorious converge on Skullport in an attempt to find the Professor and each other. Following different leads, our heroes bring more than a little chaos down on themselves and the underground city, with a smidgen of help from friends old and new. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master and Guest Starring Luke as Weller.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXVII - When Last We Broke

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2018 107:15


A strange power dwelling in the River Sargauth has scattered the Bane Glorious. Separated in the Undermountain, they search for each other and Skullport, finding danger and wonder along the way. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXVI - River Running Red

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2018 141:54


The Bane Glorious trek deeper into the Undermountain, searching for their lost friends, the Blackstaff's apprentice and the mysterious Professor. Along their way, they encounter the tricky and strange challenges the depths have to offer before stumbling upon a power they do not understand. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

Podcast Ubuntu Portugal
E34 Ano Do Linux!?

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2018 53:30


A conversa andou pelo assunto do momento: o chapéu azul resultante da aquisição da Red Hat pela IBM, (os novos) equipamentos comercializados com GNU/Linux incluindo os Thelios da System 76 e o smartphone e tablet da Pine64, novidades do UBports, os eventos que vão acontecer muito em breve, com especial destaque para o Secure Open Source day do qual somos Media Partners e vamos tentar fazer a melhor cobertura possível para todos os que não puderem estar presentes entre outras coisas!

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S01E09 – Ano do Linux!?

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2018 53:30


A conversa andou pelo assunto do momento: o chapéu azul resultante da aquisição da Red Hat pela IBM, (os novos) equipamentos comercializados com GNU/Linux incluindo os Thelios da System 76 […]

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXIV - In Too (Water)Deep

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2018 142:36


The party makes its way to the Blackstaff's Tower for The Lords' Ball. They mingle with Waterdeep's high and mighty and bump into problems old and new. The Bane Glorious just want to have fun but they aren't the only ones who weren't really invited. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew (via skype) as Helagon, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as The Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXIII - 40% Foolproof

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2018 110:59


Still reeling from the revelations of their latest adventure and earning their party name, The Bane Glorious set out into Waterdeep. They soon discover, through varied means, that The Lord's Ball is to take place in the Blackstaff's Tower and it may be worth further investigation. It has nothing to do with it being swanky and having copious amounts of alcohol flowing. Absolutely nothing at all. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Matthew as Helagon (via skype), Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios, with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXII - Watchdog

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2018 140:41


The Bane Glorious retreat to a tavern to discuss their harrowing adventure in the sewers of Waterdeep. Their suspicions of the Boar's intentions come to a head when Juniper casts a Zone of Truth, but Erallur's old ally is not the only one caught up in the magic. And while discussions continue, a young elf from far away comes looking for folk messing with portals. He may just get what he was after...and more besides. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master and introducing Matthew as Helagon.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XXI - Enchanted

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2018 185:23


The party take The Boar up on his offer and decide to look for his stolen weapons. It takes them first to the wagon-works, where they discover a hidden hatch into the sewers. They descend, only to find an old frenemy exploring the passages too. Reunited with Seraphine, the Bane Glorious press on into the tunnels but none of them are prepared for what lies in wait beneath the City of Splendours. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master. Follow us on twitter here: https://twitter.com/roleupdandd

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XX - Andarl In The Wind

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2018 128:00


The Bane Glorious return to Waterdeep and split up. With errands to run, things to trade, and taverns to sample, they spend some much needed time apart after heavy fighting and long journeys. What they don't realise, is that they left Andarl behind in Beliard. And it isn't long before someone from Erallur's past comes barrelling into her path with a task she may wish to refuse. Cast: Daniel as Andarl, Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master. Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/roleupdandd

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Episode XIX - Bang, Betroth, Banish

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2018 162:57


Retiring back to Beliard to lick their wounds from battling Marlos Urnrayle, the Bane Glorious take some much needed downtime. Drinks are bought, games played and truths revealed. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XVIII - Bearly Made It

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2018 194:47


As the party venture further into the confines of the Temple of Black Earth, they come across acquaintances old and new, a powerful enemy and a shape-shifting stone monolith. Could they have reached the portal to the Elemental Plane of Earth? Listen to find out. Cast: Dan as Andarl, Kathryn as Erallur, Edward as Flint, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Charlotte as Seraphine, Adam as Thelios with Michael as DM.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XVII - Deeper Underground

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2018 180:18


The team, still missing a few of their company, tracks back to a tunnel where they found some inert Earth Elemental hearts in an attempt to stock up. Once inside, they discover something a little more alive...and a little more deadly. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XVI - Grave Tidings

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2018 84:09


After a lengthy battle against aerial foes, our party begin to lick their wounds just as time ripples yet again. Friends appear and disappear but the adventurers take it in their stride and continue on to find the missing caravan. Will they find what they're searching for and more besides? Take a wild guess. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XV - The Ballad Of Pisslegs The Vulture

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2018 97:25


We rejoin the Bane Glorious as they wake from a night of rest in Beliard, a one inn, one tavern town near the Dessarin valley. The group soon discover that all is not well. The door to Erallur's room has disappeared with her still inside! When they check the wall, all they recover is her pack, or so they think... Cast: Daniel as Andarl, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XIV - Blaze Of Glory

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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2018 96:52


The Bane Glorious forge on in their battle to close the Fire Portal and have a tense standoff or two with the denizens of the Elemental Plane they are trying to seal away. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XIII - Crossfire

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Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2018 116:58


The Bane Glorious enter the Temple of the Eternal Flame. They encounter a quiet supplicant who Juniper convinces to aid them in a perfectly normal way. With his help, they make it to the Weeping Colossus and the Fire Portal. All too easy, right? Right. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Jessica as Juniper, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios with Michael as the Dungeon Master.

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The Bane Glorious: Episode XI - The Fire Next Time

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2018 114:29


Join us in our rather silly adventures through Faerun as the Bane Glorious battle monsters, the elements and sometimes even each other. (That sometimes part might be a lie.) The party finds itself exploring the lava filled caverns beneath Scarlet Moon Hall, in search of the Cult of Eternal Flame's leader, Vanifer. As they progress, battle is joined, deals are made and our adventurers start to wonder if things aren't getting a little too hot to handle. Cast: Kathryn as Erallur, Simon as Lor'athel, Adam as Thelios, with Michael as the Dungeon Master. (We're starting with Episode XI because that's the first one we recorded).