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Who better to give you grand perspective about the ultra-blue, heavenly waters of Hawaii - than three people living in the midwest? Well, when it comes to the vista? Perhaps not, but when we're talking about dissecting what you see when it comes to storytelling, real-life crime-based content (in this case, Crisis Negotiation) and why what you see on TV/in Movies or via Streaming isn't always "the way it is in real life" - WhatCopsWatch.Com has you covered with this episode! The Crisis Cop (and Crisis Negotiator Trainer) Lt. Pat Doering, Iowa State Police Sgt. and Crisis Negotiator Michael Clyde and OG Podcaster and Crisis Negotiator Role Player Mike Wilkerson give you some of the greatest ligh bulb moments that reaction content has to offer! Are YOU ready to learn more about the entertainment you take in when it comes to effective policing? Ready to learn more about the HUMANS behind the duty belt and badge? It's time for a Perspective Review of Hawaii Five-O, Season 8, Episode 13 - "What is Gone is GOne" via WhatCopsWatch on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network. The Perspective Reviews Podcast Connection Links: Connect with The Host (and View Direct Contact information Below!) Subscribe to This Podcast & Listen Now! Subscribe, Like, and Share Everywhere! Help Perspective Reviews Grow! Rate this Podcast on iTunes! The ultimate success for every podcaster – is FEEDBACK! Be sure to take just a few minutes to tell the hosts of this podcast what YOU think over at iTunes! It takes only a few minutes but helps the hosts of this program pave the way to future greatness! Not an iTunes user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Links to Enjoy This Film! It's easy to have the same great experience from this film as we go! Hit the links below and get your copy of the film's soundtrack, score or even the movie itself! Housekeeping -- The Crisis Cop Podcast: Check it Out! https://CrisisCop.Com -- Calling All Future Role Players! Got a knack for acting and thinking on your feet? Train the future of Law Enforcement via Crisis Negotiation and Tell Us You're Interested Today! https://BlueBaggersProject.Com -- WhatCopsWatch/2GuysTalking is Now an Official USCCA Business Partner! -- Free Field Training: Inside this episode we welcome Officer Tommy Mottl from Free Field Training on YouTube (and now, from The Free Field Training Podcast effort) to share his perspective on - literally - the area that he has intimate knowledge about in the South Chicagoland area... Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/0FEbIqYKEVE Timestamps for This Episode: 06:15 Starting WhatCopsWatch with Mystic River Episode 13:24 Explaining perpetual advertising benefits 18:51 Focus on listening during negotiations 26:17 Negotiator and Steve's territorial clash 28:32 Involving mental health professionals in negotiations 36:46 Lessons learned from crisis negotiation 38:20 Talking to people in crisis situations 47:28 Technology changing tactical operations 52:00 Command decisions in hostage scenarios 55:27 Discussing mental health support options 59:32 Brad's struggles and proving his innocence 01:06:52 Using an odd question to reset negotiations 01:11:14 Lou's Support Group in Chicago 01:16:59 Importance of mutual understanding in teams 01:24:49 TV format shift and internet's role 01:26:28 Finding personal insights in reviews 01:31:45 Requesting feedback on WhatCopsWatch.com Questions from This Episode: *How does the portrayal of crisis negotiation in this episode of Hawaii 5-0 compare to real-life practices, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? Where does Hollywood get it right or wrong? (23:41, 25:26) What are the risks and consequences of showing law enforcement officers making unsafe choices during negotiations, such as approaching a vehicle barricade too closely, as discussed in the episode? (23:41, 24:10) Reflect on the depiction of trauma and mental health among officers in the episode. How did the show use Lou's backstory to highlight these issues, and how did Pat Doering and Michael Clyde react to it? (33:38, 53:58) What are the challenges negotiators face when outcomes are not successful? How do Pat Doering and Michael Clyde emphasize dealing with “losing cases”? (35:14, 38:12) Discuss the role and importance of teamwork between negotiators and tactical teams. What strategies do Michael Clyde and Pat Doering recommend for building better collaboration? (01:16:14, 01:18:15) How does the rapid resolution of cases and evidence processing in television (the “CSI effect”) affect public expectations of policing, as mentioned by the hosts? (33:02, 01:01:02) In the episode, mental health for both suspects and officers plays a key role. How should police respond to or support officers dealing with trauma? What resources were discussed as helpful? (56:27) What commentary do the hosts provide on the pissing matches (power struggles) frequently depicted between negotiators and SWAT or tactical leaders in Hollywood? How accurate is this, and what do real teams do instead? (26:30, 27:11) After a negotiation ends, what does “good closure” look like for both the subject and the team, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? How does this differ from the abrupt TV ending? (01:13:15) What did Mike Wilkerson, Pat Doering, and Michael Clyde identify as both the “goods” and “bads” in this episode's depiction of crisis negotiation? Which points resonated most with you and why? (01:20:31, 01:23:01) Links from this Episode: The Theme Songs from Hawaii Five-0!: The Original Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the late 1960's): https://youtu.be/CpxJsy8nfjA?t=25 The Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the 2010's): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCu4Uh-JqU Crisis Cop Podcast & Related Sites: Crisis Cop Podcast: https://crisiscop.com Complete Crisis Cop Podcast Library: https://crisiscoppodcast.com Role Player & Crisis Negotiation Training: Blue Baggers Project – Professional role players for crisis negotiation training: https://bluebaggersproject.com Episode Details TV Show: Hawaii Five-0 Episode Discussed: Season 8, Episode 13, "What is Gone is Gone" Original Air Date: January 2018 Streaming Link: Paramount+ Hawaii Five-0 Official Episode Info: IMDb - Hawaii Five-0 S8E13 Guest & Host Info Michael Clyde: Sergeant, Iowa State Patrol/Crisis Negotiator LinkedIn Profile Pat Doering: Founder, The Crisis Cop Podcast Crisiscop.com – Crisis negotiation resources, podcast, training info Mike Wilkerson: Host, WhatCopsWatch.com WhatCopsWatch.com – Full show archive, contact form Highlighted Topics & External Resources Crisis Negotiation National Council for Crisis Negotiation FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline 988lifeline.org Call or Text: 988 (US Only) Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Referenced Shows & Episodes Referenced Past Episodes Criminal Minds S1E5 - Our Perspective Review with Dr. Morgan Krumeich! WhatCopsWatch - Mystic River Episode Related Shows The Shield Ocean's Eleven (2001) Further Reading & Learning Books on Crisis Negotiation: "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator" by Gary Noesner (Amazon link) Suicide Prevention & Mental Health The Bridge Documentary (Golden Gate Bridge) National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) Production & Sponsors 2GuysTalking – Podcast production and perpetual advertising EditorCore.com – Podcast editing services VoiceFarmers.com – Voiceover services How to Get Involved Want to be a guest or share your story? Visit WhatCopsWatch.com/contact and fill out our quick web form. Law enforcement interested in joining Iowa State Patrol: Iowa State Patrol careers section https://dpscareers.com/ Show Feedback We want to hear from you! Episode Comments & Listener Feedback: WhatCopsWatch.com Find full archives & resources: WhatCopsWatch.com/ Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — What do YOU think of storytelling that we are given nowadays inside of what Hollywood shovels to us? Tell us now! — What did YOU think of the long-running television series, Hawaii Five-O? Tell us now! Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program! Tell us what you think! It's never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact WhatCopsWatch now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER! Tell Us What You Think About WhatCopsWatch: Tell us what you think and we'll use your comments in a future ALL-FAN-INPUT Episode! Educating the public is what we've based all of our programming on and we're eager to connect with others who are doing it!...
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Who better to give you grand perspective about the ultra-blue, heavenly waters of Hawaii - than three people living in the midwest? Well, when it comes to the vista? Perhaps not, but when we're talking about dissecting what you see when it comes to storytelling, real-life crime-based content (in this case, Crisis Negotiation) and why what you see on TV/in Movies or via Streaming isn't always "the way it is in real life" - WhatCopsWatch.Com has you covered with this episode! The Crisis Cop (and Crisis Negotiator Trainer) Lt. Pat Doering, Iowa State Police Sgt. and Crisis Negotiator Michael Clyde and OG Podcaster and Crisis Negotiator Role Player Mike Wilkerson give you some of the greatest ligh bulb moments that reaction content has to offer! Are YOU ready to learn more about the entertainment you take in when it comes to effective policing? Ready to learn more about the HUMANS behind the duty belt and badge? It's time for a Perspective Review of Hawaii Five-O, Season 8, Episode 13 - "What is Gone is GOne" via WhatCopsWatch on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network. The Perspective Reviews Podcast Connection Links: Connect with The Host (and View Direct Contact information Below!) Subscribe to This Podcast & Listen Now! Subscribe, Like, and Share Everywhere! Help Perspective Reviews Grow! Rate this Podcast on iTunes! The ultimate success for every podcaster – is FEEDBACK! Be sure to take just a few minutes to tell the hosts of this podcast what YOU think over at iTunes! It takes only a few minutes but helps the hosts of this program pave the way to future greatness! Not an iTunes user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Links to Enjoy This Film! It's easy to have the same great experience from this film as we go! Hit the links below and get your copy of the film's soundtrack, score or even the movie itself! Housekeeping -- The Crisis Cop Podcast: Check it Out! https://CrisisCop.Com -- Calling All Future Role Players! Got a knack for acting and thinking on your feet? Train the future of Law Enforcement via Crisis Negotiation and Tell Us You're Interested Today! https://BlueBaggersProject.Com -- WhatCopsWatch/2GuysTalking is Now an Official USCCA Business Partner! -- Free Field Training: Inside this episode we welcome Officer Tommy Mottl from Free Field Training on YouTube (and now, from The Free Field Training Podcast effort) to share his perspective on - literally - the area that he has intimate knowledge about in the South Chicagoland area... Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/0FEbIqYKEVE Timestamps for This Episode: 06:15 Starting WhatCopsWatch with Mystic River Episode 13:24 Explaining perpetual advertising benefits 18:51 Focus on listening during negotiations 26:17 Negotiator and Steve's territorial clash 28:32 Involving mental health professionals in negotiations 36:46 Lessons learned from crisis negotiation 38:20 Talking to people in crisis situations 47:28 Technology changing tactical operations 52:00 Command decisions in hostage scenarios 55:27 Discussing mental health support options 59:32 Brad's struggles and proving his innocence 01:06:52 Using an odd question to reset negotiations 01:11:14 Lou's Support Group in Chicago 01:16:59 Importance of mutual understanding in teams 01:24:49 TV format shift and internet's role 01:26:28 Finding personal insights in reviews 01:31:45 Requesting feedback on WhatCopsWatch.com Questions from This Episode: *How does the portrayal of crisis negotiation in this episode of Hawaii 5-0 compare to real-life practices, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? Where does Hollywood get it right or wrong? (23:41, 25:26) What are the risks and consequences of showing law enforcement officers making unsafe choices during negotiations, such as approaching a vehicle barricade too closely, as discussed in the episode? (23:41, 24:10) Reflect on the depiction of trauma and mental health among officers in the episode. How did the show use Lou's backstory to highlight these issues, and how did Pat Doering and Michael Clyde react to it? (33:38, 53:58) What are the challenges negotiators face when outcomes are not successful? How do Pat Doering and Michael Clyde emphasize dealing with “losing cases”? (35:14, 38:12) Discuss the role and importance of teamwork between negotiators and tactical teams. What strategies do Michael Clyde and Pat Doering recommend for building better collaboration? (01:16:14, 01:18:15) How does the rapid resolution of cases and evidence processing in television (the “CSI effect”) affect public expectations of policing, as mentioned by the hosts? (33:02, 01:01:02) In the episode, mental health for both suspects and officers plays a key role. How should police respond to or support officers dealing with trauma? What resources were discussed as helpful? (56:27) What commentary do the hosts provide on the pissing matches (power struggles) frequently depicted between negotiators and SWAT or tactical leaders in Hollywood? How accurate is this, and what do real teams do instead? (26:30, 27:11) After a negotiation ends, what does “good closure” look like for both the subject and the team, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? How does this differ from the abrupt TV ending? (01:13:15) What did Mike Wilkerson, Pat Doering, and Michael Clyde identify as both the “goods” and “bads” in this episode's depiction of crisis negotiation? Which points resonated most with you and why? (01:20:31, 01:23:01) Links from this Episode: The Theme Songs from Hawaii Five-0!: The Original Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the late 1960's): https://youtu.be/CpxJsy8nfjA?t=25 The Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the 2010's): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCu4Uh-JqU Crisis Cop Podcast & Related Sites: Crisis Cop Podcast: https://crisiscop.com Complete Crisis Cop Podcast Library: https://crisiscoppodcast.com Role Player & Crisis Negotiation Training: Blue Baggers Project – Professional role players for crisis negotiation training: https://bluebaggersproject.com Episode Details TV Show: Hawaii Five-0 Episode Discussed: Season 8, Episode 13, "What is Gone is Gone" Original Air Date: January 2018 Streaming Link: Paramount+ Hawaii Five-0 Official Episode Info: IMDb - Hawaii Five-0 S8E13 Guest & Host Info Michael Clyde: Sergeant, Iowa State Patrol/Crisis Negotiator LinkedIn Profile Pat Doering: Founder, The Crisis Cop Podcast Crisiscop.com – Crisis negotiation resources, podcast, training info Mike Wilkerson: Host, WhatCopsWatch.com WhatCopsWatch.com – Full show archive, contact form Highlighted Topics & External Resources Crisis Negotiation National Council for Crisis Negotiation FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline 988lifeline.org Call or Text: 988 (US Only) Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Referenced Shows & Episodes Referenced Past Episodes Criminal Minds S1E5 - Our Perspective Review with Dr. Morgan Krumeich! WhatCopsWatch - Mystic River Episode Related Shows The Shield Ocean's Eleven (2001) Further Reading & Learning Books on Crisis Negotiation: "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator" by Gary Noesner (Amazon link) Suicide Prevention & Mental Health The Bridge Documentary (Golden Gate Bridge) National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) Production & Sponsors 2GuysTalking – Podcast production and perpetual advertising EditorCore.com – Podcast editing services VoiceFarmers.com – Voiceover services How to Get Involved Want to be a guest or share your story? Visit WhatCopsWatch.com/contact and fill out our quick web form. Law enforcement interested in joining Iowa State Patrol: Iowa State Patrol careers section https://dpscareers.com/ Show Feedback We want to hear from you! Episode Comments & Listener Feedback: WhatCopsWatch.com Find full archives & resources: WhatCopsWatch.com/ Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — What do YOU think of storytelling that we are given nowadays inside of what Hollywood shovels to us? Tell us now! — What did YOU think of the long-running television series, Hawaii Five-O? Tell us now! Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program! Tell us what you think! It's never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact WhatCopsWatch now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER! Tell Us What You Think About WhatCopsWatch: Tell us what you think and we'll use your comments in a future ALL-FAN-INPUT Episode! Educating the public is what we've based all of our programming on and we're eager to connect with others who are doing it!...
Country music legend Clint Black is joining us! The multi-platinum artist, 22-time No. 1 hitmaker, and recent BMI Icon Award recipient is back on the road with his Back on the Blacktop Tour and celebrating the release of his new memoir, Killin’ Time: My Life and Music. We’ll talk about the emotions that surfaced while writing the book, the forgiveness he found revisiting parts of his childhood, and the lessons he’s learned through nearly four decades in music since the release of Killin’ Time 37 years ago. Plus, we’ll dive into his daughter Lily recently turning 25, his lasting marriage to Lisa Hartman Black, and their new Lifetime movie, When I Said I Do. From chart-topping success and career-defining moments to family, fatherhood, and what’s still left to accomplish, Clint brings the stories and wisdom that have made him one of country music’s most respected voices.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The long-awaited memoir from country music legend, Clint Black-a raw, intimate, and unflinching story that traces his rise from struggling songwriter to chart-topping superstar and enduring music legend.Over twenty million records sold. Twenty-two number one career singles. 31 top ten singles. Nearly two dozen gold and platinum awards. Countless CMA and ACM awards. A Grammy Award. A star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. When it comes to modern music, few artists have had a bigger or more lasting impact than Clint Black. Since bursting onto the country music scene in 1989 with Killin' Time-the triple-platinum debut that delivered five consecutive number one singles-Black has built a genre-defining career spanning nearly four decades. Having written the soundtrack of a generation, Clint now puts pen to paper to write, for the first time, the story of the man behind the music.In his long-awaited memoir, Black shares the unfiltered, extraordinary account of his journey from a kid with a dream on the outskirts of Houston to a country music legend. From his near-death experiences as a young boy, to his decision to drop out of high school to pursue music, to countless years struggling as an unknown young artist, playing at any nightclub or hotel bar that would have him, Black's path to success had more twists than the Texas two-step.Once fame hit and the stakes got higher, Black didn't let the pressure of big crowds, big money, or big labels steer him off course. By writing from the heart and sticking to his guns, he built a legacy on his own terms. These values proved to be Black's north star navigating superstardom, including a difficult lawsuit against his ex-manager, Bill Ham; subsequently founding his own record label; recording with heroes such as Jimmy Buffett, Merle Haggard, and Eric Idle; his whirlwind romance and everlasting marriage with actress Lisa Hartman Black; and most recently, a critical issue with a cervical spine injury, which threatened the very thing that made him a star: his voice.With vivid, deeply personal stories-all told with Black's signature charm-he recounts how his steadfast dedication to his beliefs and his passion for music led him to success after success, and through storm after storm. For longtime fans and newcomers alike, Killin' Time is a revelatory and rare glimpse of the iconic life and career of a once in a generation talent.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.
The long-awaited memoir from country music legend, Clint Black-a raw, intimate, and unflinching story that traces his rise from struggling songwriter to chart-topping superstar and enduring music legend.Over twenty million records sold. Twenty-two number one career singles. 31 top ten singles. Nearly two dozen gold and platinum awards. Countless CMA and ACM awards. A Grammy Award. A star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. When it comes to modern music, few artists have had a bigger or more lasting impact than Clint Black. Since bursting onto the country music scene in 1989 with Killin' Time-the triple-platinum debut that delivered five consecutive number one singles-Black has built a genre-defining career spanning nearly four decades. Having written the soundtrack of a generation, Clint now puts pen to paper to write, for the first time, the story of the man behind the music.In his long-awaited memoir, Black shares the unfiltered, extraordinary account of his journey from a kid with a dream on the outskirts of Houston to a country music legend. From his near-death experiences as a young boy, to his decision to drop out of high school to pursue music, to countless years struggling as an unknown young artist, playing at any nightclub or hotel bar that would have him, Black's path to success had more twists than the Texas two-step.Once fame hit and the stakes got higher, Black didn't let the pressure of big crowds, big money, or big labels steer him off course. By writing from the heart and sticking to his guns, he built a legacy on his own terms. These values proved to be Black's north star navigating superstardom, including a difficult lawsuit against his ex-manager, Bill Ham; subsequently founding his own record label; recording with heroes such as Jimmy Buffett, Merle Haggard, and Eric Idle; his whirlwind romance and everlasting marriage with actress Lisa Hartman Black; and most recently, a critical issue with a cervical spine injury, which threatened the very thing that made him a star: his voice.With vivid, deeply personal stories-all told with Black's signature charm-he recounts how his steadfast dedication to his beliefs and his passion for music led him to success after success, and through storm after storm. For longtime fans and newcomers alike, Killin' Time is a revelatory and rare glimpse of the iconic life and career of a once in a generation talent.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-unplugged-totally-uncut--994165/support.
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Clint Black spoke to Bill Wills about The long-awaited memoir from country music legend, Clint Black-a raw, intimate, and unflinching story that traces his rise from struggling songwriter to chart-topping superstar and enduring music legend.
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Kelly talks to Gary Noesner, a legendary agent who changed the way hostage negotiation was taught and implemented at the FBI. His book is “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator” “Before we can influence others we must first listen and understand.” “Listening is the cheapest concession we can ever make.” “Managing a […]
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What if the ability to negotiate with a hostage-taker was also a skill that could improve relationships in everyday life? Gary Noesner, who is a former FBI chief negotiator and author of 'Stalling for Time,' which deep dives into his experiences and the lessons he's learned about human nature and effective communication over his 30-year career, joins Yael for this episode. You'll hear how patience, empathy, and active listening aren't just crisis tools; they're essential for everyday connection too. Gary also reflects on the evolution of negotiation tactics, the significance of emotional control, and the value of building genuine relationships. Listen and Learn: How active listening transformed hostage negotiation, from trading demands to truly hearing the pain beneath Why most hostage-takers aren't criminals but people in crisis, and how listening changes everything How sitting with uncertainty and leading with empathy defuses crises more than force ever could Why slowing down negotiations and investing in human understanding can save lives in high-stakes crises Understanding even the most difficult people can defuse conflict and open the door to real influence The Waco Siege and how it exposed a clash of FBI strategies and what it taught us about negotiation, power, and restraint What strategies do elite negotiators use to maintain composure in high-pressure situations and handle their emotions without assuming undue responsibility? How humility, likability, and relationship-building can defuse conflict at home, work, or in crisis Resources: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator https://garynoesner.com/ Yael's newsletter post about connecting like a hostage negotiator Kate Murphy's book with a profile of Gary: Why Won't You Listen to Me? Jamie Holmes' book with a profile of Gary: Nonsense Connect with Gary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-noesner-1a2480b Connect with Gary on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stalling-for-Time/148979708465038 Connect with Gary on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garynoesner/?hl=en About Gary Noesner: Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2010, entitled Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The book is being used in part as the basis for a six-part mini-series on Waco that will air on the Paramount Network on January 24, 2018. Related Episodes: 255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance 276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson 392. Outraged with Kurt Gray 403. Conflict Resilience with Bob Bordone and Joel Salinas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What if the ability to negotiate with a hostage-taker was also a skill that could improve relationships in everyday life? Gary Noesner, who is a former FBI chief negotiator and author of 'Stalling for Time,' which deep dives into his experiences and the lessons he's learned about human nature and effective communication over his 30-year career, joins Yael for this episode. You'll hear how patience, empathy, and active listening aren't just crisis tools; they're essential for everyday connection too. Gary also reflects on the evolution of negotiation tactics, the significance of emotional control, and the value of building genuine relationships. Listen and Learn: How active listening transformed hostage negotiation, from trading demands to truly hearing the pain beneath Why most hostage-takers aren't criminals but people in crisis, and how listening changes everything How sitting with uncertainty and leading with empathy defuses crises more than force ever could Why slowing down negotiations and investing in human understanding can save lives in high-stakes crises Understanding even the most difficult people can defuse conflict and open the door to real influence The Waco Siege and how it exposed a clash of FBI strategies and what it taught us about negotiation, power, and restraint What strategies do elite negotiators use to maintain composure in high-pressure situations and handle their emotions without assuming undue responsibility? How humility, likability, and relationship-building can defuse conflict at home, work, or in crisis Resources: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator https://garynoesner.com/ Yael's newsletter post about connecting like a hostage negotiator Kate Murphy's book with a profile of Gary: Why Won't You Listen to Me? Jamie Holmes' book with a profile of Gary: Nonsense Connect with Gary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-noesner-1a2480b Connect with Gary on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stalling-for-Time/148979708465038 Connect with Gary on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garynoesner/?hl=en About Gary Noesner: Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2010, entitled Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The book is being used in part as the basis for a six-part mini-series on Waco that will air on the Paramount Network on January 24, 2018. Related Episodes: 255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance 276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson 392. Outraged with Kurt Gray 403. Conflict Resilience with Bob Bordone and Joel Salinas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Das FBI spielt in der Verhandlungslehre – zumindest in den sog. Westlichen Ländern eine wichtige Rolle. Damit meine ich nicht die Nutzung dieser 3 Buchstaben in Marketing-Kampagnen, sondern die Vorgehensweisen und Modelle, die in Quantico und den anderen Einrichtungen des FBIs entwickelt und gelehrt werden. Und in diesem Zusammenhang führt kein Weg an dem Namen Gary Noesner vorbei. Gary ist in Sachen Crisis Negotiation eine lebende Legende. Das BCSM, welches er maßgeblich entwickelt hat, ist ein wahrer Gamechanger und MUSS zum Standardrepertoire deiner Verhandlung gehören. Gemeinsam mit dem wandelnden Verhandlung-Wikipedia, Andreas Winheller besprechen wir in dieser Episode Garys Buch „Stalling for Time – My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator“.
Join us on the Legacy Leaders Show for an exclusive conversation with Gary Noesner, former Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, who served nationally and internationally on some of the most complex crisis intervention cases of our time.In this episode, we explore "Mastering Business Communication and Negotiation" as Gary shares his extensive experience from a 30-year career in high-stakes negotiations. Discover effective communication strategies, psychological tactics, and leadership lessons that can transform your approach to resolving conflicts and navigating the complexities of the business world.Take advantage of this opportunity to learn from one of the world's top experts in crisis negotiation. In addition, his book, "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator," available on Amazon, is a massive game-changer in enhancing your skills in today's challenging business environment with insights from Gary Noesner.
Join us on the Legacy Leaders Show for an exclusive conversation with Gary Noesner, former Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, who served nationally and internationally on some of the most complex crisis intervention cases of our time.In this episode, we explore "Mastering Business Communication and Negotiation" as Gary shares his extensive experience from a 30-year career in high-stakes negotiations. Discover effective communication strategies, psychological tactics, and leadership lessons that can transform your approach to resolving conflicts and navigating the complexities of the business world.Take advantage of this opportunity to learn from one of the world's top experts in crisis negotiation. In addition, his book, "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator," available on Amazon, is a massive game-changer in enhancing your skills in today's challenging business environment with insights from Gary Noesner.
The Persuasion Occasion brings together a wide range of experts to talk with David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, a boomer and a millennial, about how to be more persuasive. In our first episode, we welcome Gary Noesner, who shares insights from his career as the lead negotiator with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Gary tells us how his strategy of patience and empathy was overruled in the Waco negotiations with the Branch Davidians, leading to disastrous consequences. He also discusses the importance of self-control and emotional regulation in any negotiation and illustrates how emotions can affect rational thinking and behavior. Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003, following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. He retired as the chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. He then served as a senior vice president with Control Risks, a global risk and strategic consulting firm, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnapping incidents. Gary has authored a book about his FBI negotiation career, Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator.
Die meisten Verkäufer (und leider auch deren herbeigerufene Chefs) gehen ohne einen klaren Plan, ohne Strategie und ohne Taktik in die Verhandlungssituation.Das Resultat: Entweder die Verhandlung bricht ab und der Kunde verlässt das Haus, oder es wird viel zu viel Rabatt gegeben.In diesem Podcast beschreibe ich 7 bewährte Strategien, die alle Verhandlungen einfacher machen.Weiterführende Links:Artikel über Preisanker und AnkerpreiseArtikel: "Preisverhandlungen - machen Sie diese Anfängerfehler?"Das Buch von Gary Noesner: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage NegotiatorDas Harvard-Konzept
This bonus episode brings you a swap from our friends at the Body to Burial Podcast. Please consider following their show and, if you enjoy this sample episode, leaving them a five-star review. We'll see you on Thursday, sleuthhounds!!Body to Burial Show Notes:We welcome our very first guest, retired Chief, FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit, Gary Noesner.Noesner worked for the FBI for more than 30 years as an investigator and instructor. As a hostage negotiator, he defused prison riots, government standoffs with right-wing militias, overseas kidnappings, and terrorist embassy takeovers. His career trajectory coincided with many significant events in the evolution of hostage negotiation at the FBI.In 2010, Noesner released Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, detailing his time working at the bureau. In the memoir, he wrote about the various standoffs he has been involved in, including Waco – his involvement as a negotiator in this crisis would change the FBI forever.Email: hello@bodytoburial.comhttps://linktr.ee/bodytoburial
The potential for conflict is all around us. It can sometimes feel like we are bombarded with “bad” behavior. As a leader of any sort, we have to find a way through that to come out on the other side. This week Kristine Scott and I talk about how to navigate the waters of conflict in empowering ways. Resources:Connect with Kristine:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristinemariescott/Website: seattleconflictresolution.com/Mentioned in the episode: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator: goodreads.com/en/book/show/41017722The Energy of Money: A Spiritual Guide to Financial and Personal Fulfillment: goodreads.com/en/book/show/81109
From childhood dream to be an FBI agent to Chief FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit, Gary Noesner changed how law enforcement negotiates during crises.Gary's book, "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator", reveals the critical lessons and skills learned through his career and how they can be applied to avoid and resolve conflict in our professional and personal lives. During our conversation on the Legacy Leaders Show, Gary shares the true power and art of negotiation that we can all apply today!He played a vital role in many national and international high-profile cases, including a 51-day armed standoff with federal agents in Waco, Texas, now available on Netflix as a mini-series.Champions, Buckle Up!
From childhood dream to be an FBI agent to Chief FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit, Gary Noesner changed how law enforcement negotiates during crises. Gary's book, "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator", reveals the critical lessons and skills learned through his career and how they can be applied to avoid and resolve conflict in our professional and personal lives. During our conversation on the Legacy Leaders Show, Gary shares the true power and art of negotiation that we can all apply today! He played a vital role in many national and international high-profile cases, including a 51-day armed standoff with federal agents in Waco, Texas, now available on Netflix as a mini-series. Champions, Buckle Up!
#MillenniumLive is extremely honored to have retired Chief, FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit, Gary Noesner, who was the first person to hold that position. Gary spent thirty years working for the FBI. His book, Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, recounts some of the many crisis situations he negotiated including right-wing militia standoffs, airplane hijackings, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. Gary's most notable experience was negotiating with David Koresh in Waco, where his involvement as a negotiator in this crisis would change the FBI forever. Millennium Alliance Co-Founder, Alex Sobol, asks Gary about his upbrining and early years of his life, his process of negotiating with Koresh, and his thoughts on the world today. Gary will be keynoting the Transformational CISO Assembly at the Four Season Denver, November 2nd.
We welcome our very first guest, retired Chief, FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit, Gary Noesner. Noesner worked for the FBI for more than 30 years as an investigator and instructor. As a hostage negotiator, he defused prison riots, government standoffs with right-wing militias, overseas kidnappings, and terrorist embassy takeovers. His career trajectory coincided with many significant events in the evolution of hostage negotiation at the FBI. In 2010, Noesner released Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, detailing his time working at the bureau. In the memoir, he wrote about the various standoffs he has been involved in, including Waco – his involvement as a negotiator in this crisis would change the FBI forever. In this episode, we uncover The Dirt on Gary. We explore the development of the FBI Negotiation Unit. Skills to lower emotional confrontation, whether in a crisis or at home. The art of stalling for time and the importance of voice, "I would ask, what did we say that made you come out? Because we try to learn from these cases. And the answer was always the same. It was always, I don't remember what you said, but I liked the way you said it. It's really a powerful concept to consider that the voice, the projection of sincerity may be far more important than the actual words." The level of the emotional and mental toll that years in the bureau have taken and the cases that never leave him. His shortest negotiation and his oddest request from a perpetrator. And more importantly, the one thing he hoards. Selected Links from the Episode Connect with Gary: Website | Order Book | Want more Body To Burial? Check us out: Visit www.bodytoburial.com for more info about the show and Creator's and Host's, Mariya & Niki. Become a Patreon to get access to exclusive Patreon-only content and BTS. Visit our Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com Let's Get Social: @bodytoburial (Instagram, Twitter, Facebook) Email Us: hello@bodytoburial.com
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Gary Noesner is the former Chief of the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit and author of “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator” which was the basis of “Waco,” a Netflix miniseries. In 2003, Gary retired from his role after thirty years and became Senior Vice President at Control Risks, an international risk consultancy, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnap incidents. During our chat, we discuss the traits of good negotiators, why leadership skills are critical for successful negotiations, and why organisations must recognise the importance of negotiation – no matter what industry they are in. Gary is a legend in the art of crisis negotiation, so speaking with him is a true honor.
This episode is a great opportunity for listeners to learn from an expert negotiator and behavior expert, Gary Noesner. Gary is an amazing storyteller and has knowledge that transcends industries. Gary's work and book, Stalling for Time (see link below) was the inspiration for the Netflix mini-series WACO.Guest BioGary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens.Following his retirement from the FBI, he became a Senior Vice President with Control Risks, an international risk consultancy, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnap incidents. He continues to Consult independently and speaks at law enforcement conferences and corporate gatherings around the world.He has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping produced by the History Channel, Nat Geo, WE, Discovery, TLC, A&E, CNN, CBS, BBC, American Heroes Network, and others. He has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Roll Call, the Washingtonian Magazine, the Christian Science Monitor, and other publications. He has given speeches at major universities, done interviews on numerous radio and television programs, and was the subject of an hour-long interview on NPR's Fresh Air in 2010.He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career which was published by Penguin Random House in 2010, entitled: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The book is being used in part as the basis for a six-part mini-series on Waco that will air on the Paramount Network on January 24, 2018. Gary has three grown children and resides in Virginia with his wife, Carol.The Toxic Leadership PodcastInstagram: @ToxicLeadershipPodcastTwitter: @ToxicLeaderShow Dr. Kevin Sansberry II is a behavioral scientist and executive coach with expertise in toxic leadership, human capital strategy, and creating inclusive cultures of belonging to enhance organization performance. Over the years, Kevin has focused on providing research-informed solutions in various settings such as higher education, nonprofit, sales, and corporate environments. Follow KEVRA: The Culture Company on Linkedin to keep up with your favorite behavioral scientist, Dr. Sansberry.KEVRA: The Culture Company is specifically designed and optimized for leaders who are experiencing turnover, low employee morale, and seek to move the needle further with their initiatives. Our organizational culture and inclusion strategies are a leading consulting service that helps you gain increased retention, increased productivity, and a reputation as an inclusive organization, and unlike competitors, our services are underpinned with unique research and experience in the field of toxic organizational culture and how to create inclusive environments that stick. Have a question for Dr. Sansberry? Visit askdrkev.com to send your leadership and organizational-related questions. https://linktr.ee/ToxicLeadershipPodcast
When corporate security teams or law enforcement officers are on the front lines dealing with a crisis, they need more than a weapon on their belt to diffuse the situation. The art of negotiation and communicating to lower tension and stall for time is underrated and overlooked. Gary Noesner, former FBI hostage negotiator, knows this firsthand, which is why he authored a book on the topic — Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. In this episode, Fred and Gary discuss what skills are needed to be an effective hostage negotiator, the curriculum he built to support the role, and changes he foresees in the space. Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30 year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. He was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. He has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping and has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, and the New York Times.
Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30 year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens.Following his retirement from the FBI he became a Senior Vice President with Control Risks, an international risk consultancy, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnap incidents. He continues to Consult independently and speaks at law enforcement conferences and corporate gatherings around the world.He has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping produced by the History Channel, Nat Geo, WE, Discovery, TLC, A&E, CNN, CBS, BBC, American Heroes Network, and others. He has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Roll Call, the Washingtonian Magazine, the Christian Science Monitor, and other publications. He has given speeches at major universities, done interviews on numerous radio and television programs, and was the subject of an hour long interview on NPR's Fresh Air in 2010.He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career which was published by Penguin Random House in 2010, entitled: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The book is being used in part as the basis for a six part mini-series on Waco that will air on the Paramount Network on January 24, 2018.Gary has three grown children and resides in Virginia with his wife, Carol.
Today on the show I'm delighted to have FBI Special Agent Gary Noesner (retired) as my guest for today's show. Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens.Gary has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping produced by the History Channel, NatGeo, WE, Discovery, TLC, A&E, CNN, CBS, BBC, American Heroes Network, and others. He has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Roll Call, the Washingtonian Magazine, the Christian Science Monitor, and other publications. He has given speeches at major universities, done interviews on numerous radio and television programs. And now he is on my podcast!He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career, entitled: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The 2018 Paramount Network TV Event “Waco” is based in part on his book. This interview is over 90 minutes and well worth your time. You will probably want to take notes. Visit Gary at his website.Enjoy the Cops and Writers book series.Please visit the Cops and Writers website.If you have a question for the sarge, hit him up at his email.Come join the fun at the Cops and Writers Facebook groupSupport the show (https://patreon.com/copsandwriters)
Remembering the great Elgin Baylor who passed away March 22, 2021 at 86. This interview was recorded July 16, 2018: Doug Miles talks with Alan Eisenstock author “Hang Time, My Life in Basketball” about the great Elgin Baylor on “Talk Across America”. Elgin Baylor passed away at 86 on March 22, 2021. (www.dougmilesmedia.com) Book available here: https://amzn.to/2Nkz7nH
“Life is gray. It's not black and white. It's possible to admit that the FBI made mistakes and at the same time recognize the ultimate responsibility of Koresh to have led his people out peacefully, as we encouraged him to do every single day.” Gary Noesner Gary Noesner, author of the book Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career. During this career, Gary was named the first chief of the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit. As a negotiator, he was personally involved in numerous high-profile crises, cases, and seizures, including the Branch Davidians in Waco, recently dramatized by the Netflix series. I had the pleasure of speaking with Gary about the gray nature of life, what distinguishes wants vs needs, and the game-changing power of making adjustments at half-time. Listen in to find out how Gary’s discomfort with conflict in his youth led to his career as a hostage negotiator for the FBI. Show Highlights [7:29] The fatal mistake of assuming that high rank equals expertise [14:07] The realization that life is gray [19:00] Saving the most lives possible [22:29] Making adjustments at half-time [26:40] Distinguishing between wants and needs Links | Resources Gary on LinkedIn Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator About the Guest Gary Noesner, author of the book Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career. During this career, Gary was named the first chief of the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit. As a negotiator, he was personally involved in numerous high-profile crises, cases, and seizures, including the Branch Davidians in Waco, recently dramatized by the Netflix series. About Voltage Control Voltage Control is a facilitation agency that helps teams work better together with custom-designed meetings and workshops, both in-person and virtual. Our master facilitators offer trusted guidance and custom coaching to companies who want to transform ineffective meetings, reignite stalled projects, and cut through assumptions. Based in Austin, Voltage Control designs and leads public and private workshops that range from small meetings to large conference-style gatherings. Share An Episode of Control The Room Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Engage Control The Room Voltage Control on the Web Contact Voltage Control Intro: Welcome to the Control the Room Podcast, a series devoted to the exploration of meeting culture and uncovering cures for the common meeting. Some meetings have tight control, and others are loose. To control the room means achieving outcomes while striking a balance between imposing and removing structure, asserting and distributing power, leaning in and leaning out, all in the service of having a truly magical meeting. Douglas: Today I’m with Gary Noesner. Gary retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career, during which he was named the first chief of the FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit. As a negotiator, he was personally involved in numerous high-profile crises, cases, and seizures, including the Branch Davidians in Waco, recently dramatized by the Netflix series. He's also author of the book Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. Welcome to the show, Gary. Gary: Thanks. It's a pleasure to be with you. Douglas: So, Gary, I'm always fascinated to hear how people got their start, especially in the world of facilitation. And I’m sure negotiators are no different. While there’s certainly a course at Quantico, there’s not readily degree programs, like, “Oh, I’m going to go become a negotiator or become a facilitator.” It's a quite circuitous path a lot of people take. And I'm curious. All the way back to the Lakeland High School, you know, talking about some of those early situations you found yourself in, at what point did you really start to realize that you had this gift of kind of working with people? Gary: Well, I think as an early age, I was always uncomfortable around conflict and always sort of stepped up to the plate to de-escalate confrontations and arguments, whether it's between friends or others. It just seemed like a natural and appropriate thing to do for me. So when I got into the FBI, after wanting to do that since I was young, I had no sense that anything about negotiation existed because it didn't when I joined. But when I first got in the early part of my career, the FBI had sort of taken on this hostage-negotiation concept that had been started by NYPD. And there's something about it that really attracted me, and I thought it fit my personality and skill set. So I got the early training, and it was an auxiliary function for me for many, many years. And eventually I became a full-time negotiator and chief of the Crisis Negotiation Unit for the last 10 years of my career. But it was very challenging, and, yeah, there's a lot of similarities with mediation, facilitation. It's all about building relationships and influencing people in a positive way. Douglas: And it must have been kind of—it's like coming full circle as you were one of the first to take the course, and then you ended up taking the program over. What did that feel like when you remember it? Like, what was that like? Gary: Well, in those days, when I first got involved, the FBI, perhaps more so than today, played a pretty significant role in training police departments. Police departments didn't have a lot of money for training back then, so part of the FBI's mission was to provide it at no charge. And one of the areas, of course, was negotiation. It eventually became the thing we taught more than anything else, except for maybe firearms. And it gave me an opportunity to really interface with a lot of police officers in ways that I might not have had a chance otherwise. And that was a really valuable piece of my learning as an agent, as a human being. And, you know, I certainly got as much from those officers as I gave. It became apparent to me very quickly that the skills and the approaches we were teaching had a real impact. It wasn't theoretical. It allowed officers to exercise some specific skills to prevent violence and come home alive to their families. So immediately I recognized it as rewarding and meaningful and certainly something I always enjoyed. Douglas: Something that really caught my eye—and I kind of can parallel it back to even the theme of the show, which is control, and how much control do we lean into, and how much do we back away from? And I really struck a chord with this notion of maintaining balance. And you were talking about managing yourself and the people around you. And in fact, I think there is a quote that really caught my eye, which was, if you cannot control your own emotions, how can you expect to influence those of others? Gary: That's literally the first line that comes out of my mouth when I teach negotiations, because it's so true. I mean, if you want to influence others and yet you yourself are emotionally charged or dealing not in a logical, thoughtful, empathic way, then you're probably not going to be as successful as you would otherwise. So self-control is terribly important. And you tend to see people that perform at the highest levels in certainly law-enforcement negotiations are typically people who have a lot of self-control. And one of the chapters in my book, Stalling for Time, I start each chapter with a quote. And a quote I always like, it's a partial quote from Rudyard Kipling about if you can keep your head about you when all else are losing theirs. And I think that says a lot to me about the kind of person that makes a good negotiator and what is required. It's somebody that can think clearly in the midst of a situation where others might be so overcome with various forms of reaction that they're not optimally performing. You know, it's kind of like—I always do the comparison of a trauma surgeon. You know, when mass casualties are brought into an emergency room, the trauma surgeon, it's not that they're not human and don't see the damage that some people have suffered or perhaps been deceased, but they focus immediately on what has to be done, which is to save as many lives and determine which ones need their most immediate care. So they put those emotions aside so that they can function at an optimal level or highest level they can. And I think negotiations is very akin to that. Douglas: Yeah. It reminds me of the, never confusing getting even with what you want. Gary: Yeah. And it's a good phrase we used to use for our commanders because even law enforcement, somebody can be a fairly high rank and have a lot of different experiences in an agency. It doesn't mean that they've had a lot of experience managing with these kinds of crises. And law-enforcement officers are human beings, and when a perpetrator, particularly one that is maybe not a model citizen or somebody that may not have any attributes that we would find commendable, when they refuse to do what we want and they don't cooperate and they back out of promises, they engage in any number of problematic behaviors, you really got to maintain your self-control because if you respond and react to that, you may get even with them, but are you really accomplishing what your goal is, which is to get your way? And “to get our way” in the context of negotiation means we get people to peacefully surrender, to comply, to do what we think is not only in our best interest, but in their best interest. We don't want anybody to get hurt. So I found a lot of my career time was helping on-scene commanders and decision makers, chiefs of police, sheriffs, understand that concept. There's always an assumption that people of a high rank know how to do everything. And of course, that's a fatal mistake you can make, because they don't necessarily understand, especially—someone might be a great internist as a doctor, but can they perform brain surgery? Probably not. So, you know, just because you have the MD in front of your name doesn’t mean you can do everything there is that could possibly come before you. So we have to know our limitations, and we have to understand that there are people who have more expertise that we probably would be wise to listen to. Douglas: Yeah. It reminds me of your points in the book around just the crises within the crises and these other negotiations that have to happen. So you're managing quite a lot at the same time. Gary: Yeah. I mean, and of course, I know we'll be talking about Waco shortly, but I got asked this on a recent interview, and I never really thought about it from that complexity point of view that while out there, I had three very distinct roles. I had to manage the negotiation team, maybe 15 or 20 people, and ensure that it was functioning properly and proceeding in a strategic way, the way I wanted it to. And at the same time, I had to convey what we wanted to the bosses and convince them to support the strategic approach we were taking, and that could often be a challenge. And then, last but not least, is dealing with David Koresh and all the unique issues and problems that he brought to the table. So, you know, you find yourself sometimes being the ringleader in a three-ring circus, you know, and trying to keep everybody functioning in the right way so we can achieve the outcome we want. Douglas: Yeah. And speaking of Waco, let's talk about that for a moment. I was really curious to hear your thoughts on how well it portrayed the negotiation process, because from a storyline perspective, when I compare your book to the show, there's definitely some sensationalism on the Branch Davidian side. My depiction was that it demonstrated the conflict with the kind of more forceful approach and also just the kind of slow, intentional approach ya’ll were taking. But I’m just kind of curious as far as, like, anything about the negotiation process that you felt was maybe skewed in the presentation. Gary: It's a big question, and there's a lot of variables. Obviously, they bought my book to show the FBI side of the story and what perspective we had from outside looking in. And then they bought David Thibodeau’s book—he was a surviving Branch Davidian—to get the perspective of someone inside looking out. And I liked that approach, to look at it from both angles. But specifically addressing the negotiation part, they got a lot of parts of the negotiation very right. What was the Hollywood dramatization part is they had my character doing all these things on his own, when in reality I'm leading the team, and there's eight, nine negotiators per shift. It's quite a complex and many-moving-part operation. So obviously, Hollywood doesn't want to pay those additional actors and introduce their characters and get the audience to know them. It's a whole different level of challenge, that they wanted to showcase Michael Shannon, who was one of the two main stars of the TV show who played me. Douglas: I got to say, if I'm ever played by anyone, I would say Michael Shannon wouldn't be a bad—that’s not a bad deal to get. Gary: I had seen Michael Shannon in Boardwalk Empire, that TV show. Douglas: Mm-hmm. Gary: I was very impressed with him in that show, and I didn't even know his name, to be honest with you. And they came out and said, “This Michael Shannon's been hired to play you.” And I looked him up right away. I said, “Oh, it’s that guy.” Well, he is just an incredible actor and human being. And, you know, during my time on the set, we had an opportunity to become quite friendly and had basically drinks and dinner every night while I was out there. And what an incredible actor. And he certainly was not trying to imitate me, but he captured the tenor of my philosophy, which goes back to your earlier question. I think those issues that came up, including the conflict between the tactical side of the FBI that wanted to take a different approach, I think that's very accurately reflected. Again, not so much in the exact form, but certainly in terms of substance. And he had it down very, very well and, I think, did an incredible job. And let me add another thing, Douglas. You know, what I found is I felt that part of the reason I wrote my book was to educate current and future FBI leaders. And one of the things they need to be educated on is to understand not only the mistakes that the FBI made there, but the good things we did. And there were far more of those than not. But if someone doesn't write that down and record it, those things fall through the cracks and they're forgotten, and sometimes mistakes are repeated, and good behaviors are not appreciated or replicated. So I wanted to write it for that reason. And I also feel that in the FBI, we serve the American people. If we do something wrong, we should step up to the plate, admit what we did, demonstrate that we are making changes and corrections, and I think we owe it to the American people that we serve to do those things. So for all those reasons, I wrote that book and stand by the portrayal of the FBI overall. What I'm not quite as happy about is I think the portrayal on the other side of David Koresh came up a bit short for me because in reality, David Koresh was a far more dark and sinister, manipulative guy than was portrayed. The other great actor there—there were several of them—but Taylor Kitsch, who played Koresh, was just phenomenal. And he's such a nice guy in real life that I think that came through. And the producer, directors wanted to show the charismatic side of Koresh, what allowed him to attract followers and gain their total allegiance. And they did that, but I just don't think they showed sufficiently. They showed some dark things from him but not enough to my satisfaction. And I talked to them about that and tried to change that. But what you find out is when you sell your book to Hollywood or somebody else, you have some influence, but you don't have control. Douglas: Yep. I think that echoes my read on it as well. It’s a little sensationalized on the, like, kind of making people want to have a little more sympathy than maybe you would have if you were watching it go down from the sidelines. Gary: You know, you’re into facilitation, and I think the biggest takeaway for facilitators, if you want to use Waco as sort of an example, is the realization that life is gray. It's not black and white. It's possible to admit that the FBI made mistakes and at the same time recognize the ultimate responsibility of Koresh to have led his people out peacefully, as we encouraged him to do every single day. So you don't have to say, “Oh, these guys were all good, and these guys were all bad. The big old bad government came in and just wanted to kill people.” I mean, it's actually intellectually lazy to take on those extreme views and not very realistic. There were good people in there who were practicing their faith, and there were highly dedicated FBI agents who wanted nothing but everybody to come out alive. So to make those general derogatory statements, I think, is just showing you haven't done your research, and you haven't read about what really happened, and you don’t understand. Douglas: Coming back to your goals for the book around really cementing the positive impact so they're not lost, it also jumped out to me when you were talking about these post-incident reviews and applying these lessons learned, it was interesting because it seemed like the popularity of the techniques within the FBI began to grow as you started to celebrate some of these wins. But the irony of it all was, maybe one of the ones that I was the most tickled by and I thought that you guys did such an amazing move was the steaks and gravy and cakes for the prisoners. So they're all having a Thanksgiving coma while the tactical thing went in, and clearly, not much credit was given after the fact for that. Gary: Yeah. You know, it's funny. A lot of people in law enforcement are really not well versed on what negotiators do and why we do it. It's sort of a soft science, and you know there’s more to taking action than here's a bad guy. We're going to do this to suppress them, arrest them, whatever we have to do. And, you know, when you do negotiate people out, which we do, in the 90 percentile, people say, “Well, it must not have been so hard. That guy must not have been that dangerous anyway.” And they sort of make some excuses for it. Of course, I always want to say, “Well, you try doing it when somebody's life is on the line.” But it's a hard thing to define. But just as in facilitation, we're building relationships, and people expect in these situations law enforcement to show up and be very confrontational, very demanding, very dictatorial. You will do this and you better do that, or we're going to do x, y, z. And instead they get somebody like me show up and say, “Hey, David. This is Gary. What's going on in there? I'm here to help. I don't want to see anybody get hurt.” It's something they don't expect, and it gives us an opportunity to listen to them and to better understand what their motivation is, what their feelings are, how they interpret what has happened. It allows us slowly and steadily to lower the tension, to de-conflict and de-confrontate. And it allows us to begin eventually to have some influence over their behavior. And, you know, you typically will get to a point where a guy like David Koresh, which you didn't hear, he said, “You know, I just don't know what I can do. I don't know what to get out of, how to get out of what I got into.” And you say, “Well, you know, here's some ideas for you, and here's something you might want to think about. And come out to jail and tell the world your side of the story. It needs to be heard.” You know, those are things we did, and with some effect, we got 35 people out during the first half when I was there, including 21 children. That’s a fact that many people forget. And it was not an easy task, and I'm very proud of it. I’m no less disappointed that we didn't get more out or everybody out. But you got to recognize that human emotion is a really challenging thing. And when there's been loss of life, like it was at Waco before we even arrived as the FBI, I mean, we were already in a deep ditch, and we got to dig out of that. It's pretty tough. Douglas: You know, as you were speaking, it reminded me of some notes I wrote down around there's a lot of similarities between facilitation and negotiation, but there's some clear differences as well. We’re not dealing with—life and death is usually not at stake. And the fundamental contradiction that you mentioned, which I thought was really fascinating, we don't really struggle with that so much, right? Like, we're all about building trust, but we never, ever have to bend the truth, or we never have to potentially send them into harm's way. And when I think about that story, was it in West Virginia, where Cheryl's husband, her and her child. And there was a lot of interesting dynamics there from the perspective of opening up options and demonstrating a future when you know that that future may not exist. So I’m kind of curious how that unfolds, just as you're kind of regulating your emotions. Gary: Well, it's a tough case. And, you know, my book is about the importance of negotiation and how it is a tool that law enforcement should even use more, and then I start off the first chapter of my book with a situation where we have to use deadly force to resolve it. But it was a very dramatic case. It showed how even in those cases where the behaviors, the actions of the perpetrator are so extreme that our chance of getting them to comply and resolve it peacefully are pretty slim and, thereby, someone else is going to die. So then the negotiator has to segue into a role that allows you to become more supportive of the only option we have left, and that's using force. In Sperryville, I talked him into coming out to a helicopter, where a marksman ended his life. In the Talladega prison, that you alluded to earlier, we knew hostages were going to die, so we gave in and gave them a very sumptuous meal for the first time in eight days to sort of, excuse the expression, fatten them up and to lure them into a sense of victory and empowerment. And they took the bait and gorged on the food and basically went into sweet slumber that allowed the Hostage Rescue team to make a really terrific, well-executed entry and save everybody's lives. So there are times where negotiators have to recognize reality, that while we will be successful most of the time, there's nothing in what we do that guarantees success and certainly not 100 percent of the time. So we have to be adaptable and flexible. And the bottom line is, how do we save the most lives possible? Douglas: Yes. That was the thing that was going through my mind in both of those scenarios because Sperryville, you saved a woman and her child; and then the prison example, I mean, how much more carnage would have happened if they would have been bracing for it? Gary: That’s right. I mean, if we had continued to deny them food until they released the hostages, I mean, I think we stood a good chance of having them kill one of the hostages to try to force us to do what they wanted, and that's one less human being alive today to survive that. So we have to take all that into consideration. And you make the best decisions you can, and you have to weigh all the facts. That's why we function—in Waco, I get a lot of credit operating by myself, but in reality, we're leveraging a team of very skilled and talented negotiators that bring a lot to the table from their training and their personal experience. We said, “What do you think? What are your ideas? Did you hear something I didn't hear?” And we really use that to full advantage to try to come up with the best approach that we think will achieve what we want in this particular incident. Douglas: That brings to mind something else I wanted to bring up, which was the comment of you write good notes. And it really resonated with me because I often love to facilitate with a co-facilitator, and I find that when, especially when we're exploring really tough issues that, like, a team is really struggling, like, they can't seem to get past some personal issues, or they're just stuck on some things, when you’re there working directly, it’s sometimes hard to see the big picture because you’re in the content, you're in the moment. But if you're on the sideline kind of just observing, you can see interesting things. So I was just wondering, is that similar in the negotiation world? When you're observing and writing these notes, do you find that you see things you wouldn't have seen if you were just on the phone, in the moment with them, like, watching every word, that kind of thing? Gary: Yeah, absolutely. I think it's akin, Douglas, if you want to do a comparison, you think of a college or a professional football game. You ever notice how sometimes—not all the time—the second half is dramatically different from the first half? I mean, dramatically different? And you say, “Boy, what happened? That must've been a hell of a speech that the coach gave.” Well, what it really was is the coaches up in the booth, they’re studying what happened. They're making adjustments at halftime. It's coaching. It's not being personally involved in playing that position out on the field, but watching it and seeing where changes or improvements can be made to get the outcome we wanted. So negotiations is no different. If I’m the negotiation coordinator, or the coach, it allows me to listen to the interplay between the primary negotiator on the phone and the perpetrator, and then either in between calls or through passing a short, cryptic note, help nudge them to something I've seen that I think they may not have fully appreciated. The quote you're talking about is in Waco. This mother was very angry that her son was by himself. He had been released in the Child Protective Services, and we sent a video in of all the children. And she was very angry at us for his forlorn status. And, you know, rather than just trying to defend ourselves, I passed a note to John Dolan, our primary negotiator at the time, and he read it, and he smiled. And it just said, “You know, Kathy, what little Brian needs now is a hug from his mommy.” And you could almost hear the arrow strike her heart. And, I mean, it was the one phrase that kind of brought it home to her that she was the missing piece. It wasn't us that was causing trauma to her child. It was the fact that she sent him out, and she stayed in to fight for Koresh, that it was her maternal responsibility to do this. And I think that shot hit home, and she came out the next day, and she was the first, essentially the first, adult that came out. And that was a very meaningful goal that we’d achieved. Douglas: It really struck home for me when I read that because sometimes people aren't even necessarily self-aware or why they're upset. And if they're lashing out to you, and you can—it's almost like judo, which is redirect their energy, kind of become more aware of where the center is. Gary: Yeah. You know, when you look at negotiations broadly—I'm not talking specifically Waco here—really, very few of them are actually hostage-taking events, where someone's being held to force somebody else to do something. Probably 90 percent of what police do around the country are dealing with highly emotionally charged situations. Often the jilted lovers, romantic situation gone bad; somebody holding an employer who fired them; an argument with a neighbor. There are people who are expressing anger, rage, and frustration who don't even have a clear goal of what they're trying to achieve. In other words, they've gotten themselves into something they have no idea how to get out of. And that's the role that the negotiator could play to try to understand those emotions and those drivers of their behavior, and to try to deal with those and diffuse those. That's what makes us successful. It's an approach that people don't expect from law enforcement. We certainly got that from the mental-health counseling community. And it's very effective in getting people to, for the first time, hear themselves what is driving them, and they may not appreciate, you know? Douglas: Yeah. It reminds me of another note that I had taken around you had talked about the role of the negotiator was to help people express their fears, so allowing them to open up. And it was interesting because as I read it, it was definitely similar to things that we're trying to do in the workplace, because often people have these unstated fears. It's just they're not vulnerable enough to say it out loud because they're worried someone's going to judge them or maybe they haven't even figured it out yet. And so simply stating what might be clear to you but not to them and allowing them to acknowledge it or even just to say yes, I thought that was pretty interesting. Gary: You know, we used to talk about helping people understand the difference between wants and needs. So somebody involved in one of these situations may say, I want this and I want that, but it's our job to find out what they really need. Do they really need their job back? Or is it the loss of respect and the embarrassment of having to go home and tell your wife you haven't got a job anymore? I mean, you know, we don't always get that right. But that's kind of our goal, you know? And when we're communicating with them, and we say, “It sounds like you're really embarrassed by what happened,” and if he hasn't articulated that and that, in fact, is what he feels, then we've just really scored some big points because he said, “Yes, that's exactly right. I’m embarrassed by having been fired.” Well, that’s important for us to know if we're going to deal with how he's viewing what happened to him. Douglas: So, I had this—it was one of the last kind of sentences in your book. And I wrote it down because I thought it was pretty spot on. So I'm just going to read it, and then I'd love to just hear your thoughts today on this. But, “The happiest and most successful people are the ones that can remain calm in difficult times and put aside emotions like pride and anger that stop them from finding common ground. We need to be good listeners and understand the problems and needs of the other side.” Gary: Yeah. I guess it's never been more true than it is today in our very acrimonious political climate. And I'll bring up some recent events: the protests around the country. When people go out on the street and they carry signs and they're yelling and singing songs, whatever they're doing, what they're basically saying is, “We want somebody to hear us.” Douglas: Mm-hmm. Gary: And if instead of finding ways to creatively listen to them, we simply attack them, we're probably not going to be successful. I suspect if you had 100 people in a room and 50 were pro-life and 50 were pro-choice, you could even have great meaningful discussion all night long, and at the end of the evening, you'd probably still have 50-50. But that's okay as long as we've avoided name calling and shouts and threats and violence and so forth. That's the major goal. It's a slow, steady process to try to create an atmosphere where we can listen to others and appreciate their point of view, even if it's different. And I just hate to see that today, particularly in our political environment, we seem to be going in the wrong direction. Douglas: Yeah. I think that there's a real beauty—I had underscored the statement you made at the end of one of the early chapters, which was, “Listening is the cheapest concession we can make.” Gary: Yeah. It is. It costs you nothing. And, you know, you can acknowledge someone's point of view, “Let me make sure I understand. You're angry at your boss because he fired you. You don't think he appreciated your work, and you felt as though he mistreated you,” and so forth and so on. I'm not saying to him, “Yes, I think you should kill your boss.” I'm saying to him, “I understand how you feel about what happened.” I mean, that's a powerful thing. If you think about it, the whole evolution of communication between human beings, and we're social animals, we want other people to understand what we're saying and how we feel about it. And if you do that as a facilitator, as a negotiator, you're going to be successful. Douglas: Gary, it's been so great having you on the show today, and fun chatting and hearing about just the riveting life and career you’ve had in negotiation. Would you like to leave the listeners with any final words? Gary: Well, I would suggest that people really work on listening. Listening is such an important tool. So when you go out, not so much these days with COVID, but when you have an opportunity to have a social interaction, pick out somebody you don’t know very well or somebody that's a little quiet over in the corner or whatever, and go and talk to them and find out about their life and ask good questions. “Can you tell me more about that? That sounds very interesting. I'd like to hear about that hobby that you have or that trip that you took.” And you'll find that people are far more interesting than you might have realized, that people have done and seen things that you had no idea, and you will learn a lot. And they, in turn, will appreciate the fact that you have taken the time and demonstrated the interest in learning more about them. It is a very, very powerful tool. And you know, what we all want to achieve is cooperation with other human beings, and we get that through being likable, plain old likable. Just be a person that strives to be likable and to automatically not think the worst of others and blame others, but seek to understand. Even the business guru Stephen Covey says, first seek to understand, then to be understood. So I’m not sure if that helps, but I would urge people to really make an effort at that. Douglas: Well, thanks again for being on the show. It's been great. Gary: My pleasure. Outro: Thanks for joining me for another episode of Control the Room. Don't forget to subscribe to receive updates when new episodes are released. If you want more, head over to our blog, where I post weekly articles and resources about working better together, voltagecontrol.com.
In the Music Real Episode 159 My guest is Nick Hampton, author of the new Australian Music Industry memoir Nick of Time My Life and Career All On The Record. After almost 5 decades in the Music Industry, Pye Records in London, CBS Records in London and Paris and EMI records in Australia, Nick offers his insights and shares stories about his adventures. Nick was instrumental in establishing the fund-raising for charity body Nordoff-Robbins Music Therapy Australia with The Art of Music initiative and given the challenges facing our industry today, Nick shares his thoughts about the value of music. https://themusicreal.com.au/2020/11/07/nick-hampton-in-the-nick-of-time/
Gary Noesner (pronounced "ness-ner") retired from the FBI in 2003 following a thirty-year career. Twenty-three of those years were spent as an FBI hostage negotiator, where he retired as Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, Gary was heavily involved in numerous hostage, barricade, and suicide incidents; covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens.Following his career with the FBI, Gary joined Control Risks, an international risk consultancy, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnap incidents. Gary is the author of Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, one of two books used as the basis for the television mini-series, Waco.
On this second episode of our Cult Series, Quinn guides Marco and returning guest, Gabriella Elwell, through the events leading up to, during, and following the Waco / Branch Davidions tragedy. Part 3 of the Cult Series about NXIVM will be released on Wednesday, September 9th. Sources: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator Book by Gary Noesner Waco: A Survivor's Story by David Thibodeau Waco - TV Series
On today's episode I talk about my experiences on and off the playing field, my struggles with mental health, and what coaches and teachers can do for the folks that look up to them. I appreciate you listening to this episode, this is the very first time I'm being more open about myself on this podcast. This episode will be on YouTube and you can watch me talk because I'm starting to film and record episodes now! Subscribe to my YouTube channel: Womens' Sports Matter Podcast. Follow me on Twitter @WSMpodcast and use the #WSMpodcast to submit questions, topics, folks I should interview, and more! Thanks for listening! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/womenssportsmatter/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/womenssportsmatter/support
In this two-part series, I interview Gary Noesner. Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30-year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating Middle East hijackings in which American citizens were victimized. In addition, he was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. In that capacity, he was heavily involved in numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, rightwing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. He has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping produced by the History Channel, Nat Geo, WE, Discovery, TLC, A&E, CNN, CBS, BBC, American Heroes Network, and others. He has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Roll Call, the Washingtonian Magazine, the Christian Science Monitor, and other publications. He has given speeches at major universities, done interviews on numerous radio and television programs, and was the subject of an hour-long interview on NPR's Fresh Air in 2010. He has written a book about his FBI negotiation career, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2010, entitled: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The 2018 Paramount Network TV Event "Waco" is based in part on his book. He was portrayed in the six-part TV series by two time Academy Award-nominated actor Michael Shannon. For additional information on booking Gary to speak, go to garynoesner.com
This episode is with former FBI Chief Negotiator Gary Noesner! We talk about being an FBI agent for 30 YEARS, what that job actually entails, the importance of being calm in tense situations, reading his audiobook, having Michael Shannon play him and much more! Check out his book Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator . Keep up to date with Gary at www.garynoesner.com
#0065 – STALLING FOR TIME – GARY NOESNERGary Noesner was on the FBI world for over three decades, 23 of them serving as a hostage negotiator. He aided in prison riots, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnappings of Americans.Following his retirement from the FBI, he became a Senior Vice President with Control Risks, an international risk consultancy, assisting clients in managing overseas kidnap incidents. He continues to consult independently and speaks at law enforcement conferences and corporate gatherings around the world.Gary’s book “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator” serves as half base of the Top 10 Netflix series “Waco”, the 51-day standoff with the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas.During this conversation, we talk about skills that hostage negotiators use during high intense moments to control their emotions, stay focus, strive on resolving the situation with the possible best outcome, listening skills, and more. Enjoy the episode and let us know if you have any further questions for Gary Noesner. Check out Gary’s website Click hereConnect with Gary on LinkedIn Click HereTo Purchase his book Click Here RM PODCAST FLlinktr.ee/rmpodcastflWeb: www.rmpodcastfl.comInsta: @rmpodcastflFacebook: RM Podcast FL
The Coronavirus crisis has taken the world by storm. When so much of life is up in the air, how do we need to change our negotiation tactics? Do we NEED to change our tactics? What are some strategies we can use to navigate this pandemic? Today’s episode of Negotiations Ninja is a Q&A with Gary Noesner and Allan Tsang, with Shane Ray Martin moderating. Gary Noesner is a former FBI Negotiator and author of “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator.” Allan Tsang is a negotiation coach for entrepreneurs and professionals and the founder of 88 Owls. He helps negotiators get what they want without unnecessary compromise. Shane Ray Martin is a speaker who’s passionate about negotiation, sales, and positivity. His goal is to help entrepreneurs become more self-confident and be more fulfilled. Outline of This Episode [5:20] Don’t rush the negotiation [9:45] Should you prepare differently during COVID-19? [11:58] The foundational principle of relationship building [17:56] Reaching out to existing vendors mid-contract [22:35] Handling high-stakes negotiations [30:15] Who should negotiate their salary right now? [33:28] Clients demanding extended payment terms [41:48] You have to ask the right questions [44:48] Should you consider a contingency model? [47:18] Final words of encouragement Resources & People Mentioned Stalling for Time by Gary Noesner The Like Switch by Jack Schafer and Marvin Karlins Netflix: Money Heist Curb Your Enthusiasm Connect with Gary Noesner Gary’s website Gary on LinkedIn Connect with Allan Tsang Allan on LinkedIn Allan on Twitter Allen’s Business: 88 Owls Connect with Shane Ray Martin Shane’s website Shane on LinkedIn Connect with Mark Follow Negotiations Ninja on Twitter: @NegotiationPod Connect with Mark on LinkedIn Follow Negotiations Ninja on LinkedIn Connect on Instagram: @NegotiationPod Subscribe to Negotiations Ninja
I've taken part in quizzes all my life: in schools, in pubs and on TV shows, from India to the US. But the biggest secret is that curiosity, not knowledge, is the key to success. By Samanth Subramanian. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod
Film producer and former President of the Motion Picture Academy Hawk Koch sits down with ABC7's George Pennacchio to share inside stories of life in the movie business with his new book "Magic Time: My Life in Hollywood".
Joe tracks the surprising number of malicious links hosted on legit websites and why it's dangerous. Dave describes an extortion scheme targeting podcasters. Our catch of the day involves a lonely Russian woman promoting a dating site. Dave interviews Gary Noesner, author of Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. Links to stories mentioned in today's show: https://www-cdn.webroot.com/9315/5113/6179/2019_Webroot_Threat_Report_US_Online.pdf https://rebelbasemedia.io/podcast-review-extortion/ https://www.amazon.com/Stalling-Time-Life-Hostage-Negotiator/dp/1400067251 Thanks to our sponsors at KnowBe4.
Gary Noesner was the FBI negotiator at Waco in 1993, where David Koresh and the Branch Davidians waged a 51-day siege against authorities. This is just one of the many high-profile cases Gary has worked on, and we wondered what a career in negotiating life-or-death situations teaches you about listening. His new memoir is called Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator
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Gary Noesner was a hostage negotiator. He was at Waco. His stories are great. In this episode of Mixed Mental Arts, Gary breaks down the psychology of hostage negotiation and interrogation. His book is Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. Be sure to go to https://mixedmentalarts.online/, support us on Patreon, use our Amazon affiliate, and follow us on social media!
The guys celebrate the first month of the Shooters Nation Podcast and spend time reading and answering questions from the Listener Mailbag. Topics include: Active Shooter Situations, Date Night At The Shooting Range, Training On A Budget, and Using Fanny Packs for Snacks (and Concealed Carry). Resources mentioned in this episode: The Modern Combat Handgun Grip Book: Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator Book: Horse Soldiers Book: Rules for Radicals Defeated Sponsors: Squared Away Customs Quality Custom Kydex Holsters and Carry Gear Be sure to use discount code "SHOOTERSNATION" when ordering! Want to support the podcast and help make future episodes possible? We would be honored if you would consider becoming a Patreon Patron of the show! https://www.patreon.com/shootersnation
Retired agent Gary Noesner served in the FBI for more than 30 years, four as a support employee and 26 as a special agent. In this episode of FBI Retired Case File Review, Gary Noesner reviews his role, 25 years ago, as a hostage negotiator speaking with David Koresh and other members of the Branch Davidians during the Waco siege. He also reviews the Paramount Network's 6-part TV mini-series, Waco. A significant focus of Gary Noesner Bureau career was directed toward investigating and negotiating numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. He continues to consult independently and speaks at law enforcement conferences and corporate gatherings around the world. He has appeared on numerous television news programs and documentaries and has been interviewed in major publications addressing hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping. Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator, the book he wrote about his career, serves as the basis for a six part mini-series on the 1993 Waco Siege incident airing on the Paramount Network in January and February 2018. Gary can be contacted for presentations and speeches via his website.
Retired agent Gary Noesner served in the FBI for more than 30 years, four as a support employee and 26 as a special agent. During his Bureau career he was an investigator, instructor, and hostage negotiator. A significant focus of his career was directed toward investigating and negotiating numerous crisis incidents covering prison riots, right-wing militia standoffs, religious zealot sieges, terrorist embassy takeovers, airplane hijackings, and over 120 overseas kidnapping cases involving American citizens. In this episode of FBI Retired Case File Review, Gary Noesner reviews the importance of crisis negotiations and stalling for time and how these concepts were used during the Montana Freeman incident. When he retired he was the Chief of the FBI’s Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. He continues to Consult independently and speaks at law enforcement conferences and corporate gatherings around the world. He has appeared on numerous television news programs and documentaries and has been interviewed in major publications addressing hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping. He has written a book about his career, Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. The book serves as the basis for a six part mini-series on the 1993 Waco Siege incident that will air on the Paramount Network in January 2018. Gary can be contacted for presentations and speeches via his website.
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Part of LFPL's Boom Time series, this discussion features experts on caring for ill or aging family members, a situation in which one out of every three people will find themselves.
Part of LFPL's Boom Time series, this discussion features experts on caring for ill or aging family members, a situation in which one out of every three people will find themselves.