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In this episode, Cary Sinnett is joined by renowned CPA and tax expert Bob Keebler to unpack the complexities of theft and casualty loss deductions under IRC Section 165. From pig butchering scams to IRA fraud and Ponzi schemes, this episode dives deep into the kinds of losses the IRS will—and won't—let you deduct, what qualifies as a profit motive, and how financial planners can guide their clients through one of the most emotionally and financially painful tax situations. Five Key Insights for CPA Financial Planners: Profit Motive Determines Deductibility To qualify under Section 165(c)(2), a theft or loss must stem from a transaction entered into for profit. Losses from romantic or emotional scams—where no profit motive exists—do not qualify. Five Scam Archetypes to Know A recent IRS CCA outlined five fraud scenarios: Compromised account scams Pig butchering (crypto fraud) Phishing and impersonation Romance scams Kidnapping/extortion schemes Only the first three had profit motives and were deductible. The IRA Trap: The Tax Hit Before the Scam If a client is duped into withdrawing funds from an IRA and then loses the money to a scam, they face a double blow—taxable income and no deductible loss. CPA advisors must flag this risk early. Documentation Is Critical for IRS Support To substantiate a theft loss, clients need: Bank records (e.g., wire transfers) Law enforcement reports A clear, detailed paper trail showing the loss and the attempt to recover funds Directing the IRS to the assigned FBI agent can strengthen the claim. Mitigation and Planning: Protecting Vulnerable Clients Encourage older or high-net-worth clients to follow a “1–2% rule” on risky investments. Foster opens dialogue with family members and advisors to prevent fraud and ensure support if it occurs. Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. IRC Section 165 IRS CCA 2025-101015 (the ruling discussed) Revenue Procedure 2009-20 (Ponzi Scheme Safe Harbor) AICPA PFP Section Guiding your clients who are financial caregivers Scam Tracker Risk Report This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
In this episode of the AICPA Personal Financial Planning Podcast, host Cary Sinnett speaks with expert CPA estate planner Bob Keebler about the latest legislative efforts to repeal the estate tax. They discuss the implications for financial planners, strategies to consider, and how advisors can proactively help clients navigate potential changes. Key Takeaways: Estate Tax Repeal on the Horizon Bills have been introduced in Congress to repeal the estate tax while retaining the gift tax and repealing the generation-skipping transfer (GST) tax. The likelihood of repeal is uncertain, and any repeal may be temporary depending on future political shifts. Potential Scenarios for Estate Tax Reform Three possible outcomes: extension of the current Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), total repeal, or a sunset of the current exemption levels. A sunset would likely be the least favorable for high-net-worth individuals, while total repeal could create new planning challenges. Implications for Estate Planning Strategies Portability rules could be affected, potentially eliminating the ability for a surviving spouse to use a deceased spouse's unused exemption. Trust structures, such as bypass and GST-exempt trusts, may need to be reviewed and adjusted before any legislative changes take effect. Planning Ahead: A Limited Window for Action Advisors should consider creating GST-exempt trusts in 2025 before any repeal is enacted to preserve tax benefits. Reviewing and updating existing estate planning documents is critical to avoid unintended consequences if the tax law changes. Access resources and events related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Understanding Estate Tax Sunset | Navigating Tax Changes for Expiring TCJA Provisions Estate planning for the TCJA sunset of the double exclusion amount Planning for tax changes and tax reform This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
In this episode of the AICPA Personal Financial Planning Podcast, Cary Sinnett welcomes Bob Keebler, a nationally recognized expert in estate and tax planning. Together, they break down the critical topic of portability in estate planning—what it is, how it works, and why it matters for both financial planners and clients. Key Insights: Portability: Use It or Lose It – If you don't elect portability within the required time frame, the deceased spouse's unused estate tax exemption is lost forever. Deadlines Matter – The DSUE must be filed within 9 months of death, but an extension up to 15 months is possible. For smaller estates, a late portability election may be available for up to 5 years. Bypass Trust vs. Portability – While portability can double a surviving spouse's exemption, a bypass trust protects future growth from estate taxes. The right choice depends on long-term tax projections. Estate Planning in 2025 & Beyond – The current $14 million exemption per person is set to sunset in 2026, potentially dropping to $7 million. Planners must prepare clients accordingly. CPAs Must Be Proactive – Even if a CPA isn't directly engaged for estate tax returns, they should ask key questions about a client's estate plan, especially if the surviving spouse's assets could exceed the future exemption limit. Resources & Links: AICPA PFP Section Email us your feedback Related video and slides: Estate planning deep dive (exclusive to PFP Section members)
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS discusses strategies for estate tax planning in anticipation of the TCJA (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act) sunset on December 31, 2025. The sunset, which will reduce the double exclusion amount from approximately $14 million to $7 million and many practitioners will need to evaluate gifting for their relevant clients. Bob covers various techniques, including: Spousal lifetime access trusts (SLATs) and dynasty trusts, to ensure effective estate planning. The importance of cash flow planning, understanding portability rules, and careful trust design to avoid issues like the Reciprocal Trust Doctrine. Practical considerations such as timing of gifts, administrative preparation, and the use of private annuities for income. The need for thorough documentation and legal compliance to prevent estate inclusion and litigation. Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Prepare large estates for TCJA sunset now article Upcoming webcast: Multi-year income tax planning in preparation for the sunset of TCJA included in PFP Section membership Video: Planning with SLATs and SLANTs ahead of the TCJA sunset This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
As we narrow in on the sunset of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, many practitioners will be suggesting that their relevant clients make gifts. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, and Larry Brody, JD, discuss what needs to be known when valuing life insurance policies for the purpose of filing gift tax returns, including: What do we need to know about the IRS regulations? Can you get a valuation in lieu of relying on the IRS regulations? What value should be used when given a series of values on Form 712? What if you don't agree with the Form 712 values? For more resources related to this episode: Access Bob's decisions charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Use the Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning for other planning ideas as we head into the sunset of TCJA. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Qualified terminable interest property (QTIP) trusts were created so that spouses could receive the benefit of the marital deduction while also setting aside resources for a surviving spouse and retaining control over what happens to the funds when the surviving spouse passes away. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, and Paul Hood, JD, LLM, discuss the nuances of QTIPs, including: The confusion is caused by the separate Internal Revenue Code provisions on the estate and gift side. On the estate side, the rules are lax. And, on the gift side, they are rigid. How can a buy/sell agreement interfere with the efficacy of a QTIP trust and what to watch out for to make sure this doesn't happen. What do QTIP limits like fiduciary income to the surviving spouse mean from a family harmony, efficient trust and estate administration, and a fiduciary income accounting perspective. What's the bottom line as CPAs prepare gift tax returns that involve QTIPs in 2024. For more resources related to this episode: Send your relevant clients this Broadridge Alert to educate them on QTIP trusts. Use the Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning volumes 1, 2, 3, and 4 as a reference for planning with QTIP trusts and much more. Get the basics of estate planning with our certificate program. This is one of 5 certificates that leads to attaining the PFS credential when experience and other requirements are met. Access Bob's decisions charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Ed Slott, CPA, and Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, discuss the complicated inherited IRA RMD rules and what is required in 2023 and 2024 in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. Ed and Bob provide clarity in the following areas: An easy formula to use to get clear on all of the elements that need to be considered The only scenario in which penalty relief is available when the RMD is not taken Who must take RMDs in years 1 through 9 under the 10-year rule and who can wait until year 10 When does the 5-year rule apply What happens when a ROTH IRA is inherited For more resources related to this episode: Check out Bob's IRA distribution flowcharts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
In July, California Governor Newsome signed legislation that disallows the incomplete gift non-grantor trusts (INGs) as a way to avoid CA state tax income. The law is retroactive to January 1, 2023. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews CA attorney, Kirsten Wolff, to guide CPAs on how to proactively plan with this new legislation. Bob poses the following questions to Kirsten: Do all ING trusts now trigger CA tax? Say more about the exception for charitable trusts. What types of trusts are not impacted by the new legislation? How do the throwback rules apply? How should CPAs plan for their CA clients who had ING trusts that received income or incurred capital gain before the law took effect? What should be done with ING trusts as a result of the new rules? For more resources related to this episode: Tune in to Steve Oshins and Bob Keebler as they dive deeper into the CA ING trust issue. Find Bob's decisions charts in our Proactive Planning Toolkit. Find Steve Oshins decision charts. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
IRC Sections 1202 and 1045 are becoming more popular in recent years due to the tax favorability and private investing being more attractive overall. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews experts Caleb Powers and William Beckett to refresh us on what this is all about. They discuss: What are the criteria to qualify? How do you receive IRC Section 1202 treatment? What happens if you don't hold the QSBS for 5 years? How does IRC Section 1045 come into play? What should employees with 1202 stock options do? How does this apply to estate planning? For more resources related to this episode: Find Bob's decisions charts in our Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
We often hear about the soft side of planning. As Lisa Featherngill, CPA/PFS, shares in this episode of the PFP Section podcast, this is really the hard side of planning. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews Lisa to get her thoughts on how to have important conversations that lead to whether the quantitative side of planning will be successful or not. The stakes are high and it's important to guide clients to communicate in a way that gets underneath the numbers to the meaning of the wealth. Lisa and Bob discuss: What is the qualitative side of planning? What is the number one reason why families lose control of assets and family unity by the third generation? What can we do to encourage clients to have these conversations? Are there tools that can be used to make it more comfortable for advisors and clients? What gets in the way of having these important discussions and how can we overcome this? What does all of this have to do with AI? For more resources related to this episode: Join the January 2024 PFP Summit where we dive deeper into the soft (aka hard) side of planning for ourselves, our clients, and our businesses. The books mentioned by Lisa are Preparing Heirs: Five Steps to a Successful Transition by Roy Williams and Vic Preisser, Strangers in Paradise by James Grubman, and Bridging Generations by Roy Williams and Amy Castoro. Find Bob's decisions charts in our Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Unless something changes between now and January 1, 2024, the far-reaching Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) will become effective at the beginning of next year. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, talks with Marty Shenkman, CPA/PFS to make sure the CTA is on all of our radars. They discuss: What it is Who it will impact (LLCs (including those with personal application), c corps, s corps, limited partnerships, etc.) and the practical considerations Why this will likely be worrisome for clients Why it's so important to know about this and educate our clients on the new requirements What to think about with the filings and whether attorneys and CPAs will want to get involved with this For more resources related to this episode: Read about AICPA advocacy to delay reporting requirements. Access AICPA resources on the Beneficial Ownership Information Reporting. Keep up with the latest via the FinCEN BOI page. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Investors have regained interest in investing in bonds in this higher interest rate environment. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Mark Fichtenbaum, JD, LLM, to guide CPA financial planners on how to give rise to interest like income while paying long term capital gain rates. They discuss: · How to create the economic equivalent of interest income using option strategies · The after-tax benefits of using option strategies versus investing in assets that create ordinary interest income · How to structure the option transaction to create a higher after-tax return in a safe and low risk way · The best scenario of using this strategy when you have clients with capital loss carry forwards · When this strategy may not make sense For more resources related to this episode, access: · Use the slide deck to follow along with the discussion. The Proactive Planning Toolkit, exclusive to PFP Section members. Join Bob Keebler for his year-end planning webcast on October 30th and November 13th. CPE for this webcast is included with your PFP Section membership. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Effective for 2023, Massachusetts taxpayers are now subject to a new surcharge of 4% of income over one million dollars. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Jonathan Blattmachr JD to guide CPA financial planners on the new surcharge. Who is impacted by the new surcharge? How is the new surcharge calculated? Considerations of changing domicile to avoid the new surcharge. How residents can file and structure income to reduce surcharge. How using some trust structures could help reduce the surcharge. For more resources related to this episode, access: Podcast: The tax and legal aspects of trust situs Guide: The adviser's guide to financial & estate planning: Volume 1 CPE: Trusts and estate planning documents CPE: Integrating estate planning with the tax and financial plan This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
CA recently passed legislation disallowing ING trusts by treating them as grantor trusts for state purposes retroactive to January 1, 2023. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Steve Oshins, JD, LLM, to guide CPA financial planners on how to rectify this situation. They discuss: What are ING trusts and why are they used in planning for clients? What does the CA legislation allow and not allow going forward? How to pivot to a different technique that still allows for impactful results? Planning opportunities that may be being missed in NY where INGs were disallowed beginning in 2014. What needs to be done now? For more resources related to this episode, access: The Proactive Planning Toolkit, exclusive to PFP Section members This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
On July 14, 2023, the IRS released notice 2023-54 which provides for relief for RMDs in two circumstances. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, shares what you need to know, including: If your client mistakenly took a required minimum distribution in 2023 based on SECURE but they could have waited until 2024 based on SECURE 2.0, they have until September 30th to repatriate the RMD without penalty. Relief via IRS notice 2022-53 has been extended into 2023. Beneficiaries subject to the 10-year rule will not need to take RMDs until the IRS releases final regulations providing more clarity on what is required. Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Share the update with your clients with this Broadridge Advisor Alert, included with AICPA PFP Section membership. Learn more on the latest proposals and regulations in the audio section of the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
If you have clients who are contemplating Roth conversions who may also want to take advantage of clean vehicle credits and ACA premium credits, make sure to run the numbers so that you minimize their tax bill. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews Martin James, CPA/PFS, so that you can learn more about these scenarios. They discuss: · How the clean vehicle energy and ACA premium credits work · How you can save your clients from missing out on thousands of dollars in clean energy vehicle credits · What to think about with early retirees who want to pay the least amount of insurance premiums before Medicare kicks in Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit https://pfplanning.libsyn.com/pfp to access show notes with direct links. · The Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning · The Proactive Planning Toolkit This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
The decision to wait until 70 to collect Social Security compared with starting as soon as possible is not as straight forward as it may seem. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS interviews expert Ted Sarenski, CPA/PFS to gain more insight into how to guide clients forward. They discuss: What are the factors that need to be considered when making this decision The straightforward scenarios and when things get more complex Weighing the importance of winning the Social Security game or enjoying a comfortable retirement How do CPA financial planners' approach recommendations to be consistent and give their clients the best advice Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Read Ted's Guide to Social Security Planning. Hear Ted's recent webcast on this topic. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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SECURE 1.0 eliminated life expectancy distributions apart from eligible designated beneficiaries. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS provides a refresher of how the rules work and client examples to illustrate what needs to happen to maximize IRA wealth transfers. He shares: What happens in 90% of cases How the 10-year works before and after the required beginning date How to manage the 10-year rule from a mathematical perspective when RMDs are required Why every client scenario needs to be customized Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Guide to Financial & Estate Planning Proactive Planning Toolkit This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
Portability allows a surviving spouse to add the exemption of the first spouse to die to their exemption for estate tax purposes. This happens automatically on a timely filed estate tax return unless intentionally electing out of portability. The nuances come in when you need to file an extension to give more time to see which strategy works best or when filing an estate tax return wasn't necessary at the time of the first to die. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, discusses: The four ways that you can carry out portability for your clients When it makes sense to extend the 706 return to buy more time What your surviving spouse client can do if within 5 years of their spouse passing away How to file for 9100-3 relief, if needed Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Guide to Financial & Estate Planning Proactive Planning Toolkit This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, discusses the techniques that make the most sense when you have a client who wants to maximize the wealth transfer of their large IRA. Bob walks you through the considerations in the following areas in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. The payout rules Roth conversions CRTs IRA relocation Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Use the Guide to Financial & Estate Planning as a reference library to research issues related to financial and estate planning. Find Bob Keebler's latest Roth conversion decision chart in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
American Institute of CPAs - Personal Financial Planning (PFP)
If you are approached by clients or other advisors who think it makes sense to move money from an IRA to a life insurance policy, take a look before you throw out the idea. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, shares situations and considerations where this strategy may be prudent. He discusses: Why it works best for clients with a federal and state estate tax Other factors that make this worthwhile such as tax arbitrage and getting the life insurance out of the estate The importance of the policy being designed correctly and shopping around to get the best ROI Client examples to illustrate when this strategy works Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Review Bob Keebler's latest decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit, including the Roth conversion decision chart. Listen to Susan Bruno's podcast series on life insurance with other experts. Gain more expertise with the AICPA's Risk Management and Insurance Planning Certificate. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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President Biden's fiscal year 2024 budget proposal includes many familiar changes that we have seen in past proposals. It's difficult to predict whether these will come to fruition though it will be important to get ahead on having conversations with your higher wealth clients so that there are no unexpected surprises. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, covers the major tax provisions that will impact your individual clients if enacted, including: An increase in the net investment income tax rate and scope for those with income over ~$400k An increase in the top marginal rate to 39.6% for those with income over ~$400k Taxing long term capital gains and qualified dividends at ordinary rates when taxable income is over $1M Limits on retirement contributions for high income taxpayers with large IRA balances Taxing unrealized capital gains at death and at time of gifting when above the exemption amount Elimination of the back door Roth IRA And much more! Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit Libsyn (PFP) to access show notes with direct links. Read more about the Biden proposal in this article. Find Bob Keebler's latest decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Read in depth details of the current law in the Guide to Financial & Estate Planning. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Note that this episode was recorded prior to the effective date of SECURE 2.0 which allows for 529 funds to be rolled into Roth IRAs in certain circumstances. Trust terminations can become complicated when beneficiaries decide to go their separate ways and break up the trust. The IRS views this transaction as a sale of the interest in the trust for cash or assets and a gain is triggered. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Ed Morrow, JD, LL.M. They share: When IRC Section 1001(e) kicks in How the interest is calculated for the life and other beneficiaries When the basis is determined to be zero for the income beneficiary Many examples to make the scenarios and implications clear What tax preparers need to make sure they know Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit https://pfplanning.libsyn.com/pfp to access show notes with direct links. Find Bob Keebler's latest decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Learn more about trust planning in the Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy, and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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The new spousal IRA election in SECURE 2.0 is both novel and complex. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, walks you through the options that need to be considered when a spouse who is 7+ years younger dies first. Bob shares: The spousal IRA options in SECURE 1.0 and SECURE 2.0 How to know whether you should do a traditional rollover or make the inherited spousal IRA election Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit https://pfplanning.libsyn.com/pfp to access show notes with direct links. Find other SECURE 2.0 resources in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. You'll also find updated 2023 decision planning charts here. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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SECURE 2.0 allows 529 plans to be rolled into Roth IRAs beginning in January 2024. To learn more about the specifics of what is allowed, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews education expert, Ross Riskin, CPA/PFS, in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. Ross responds to the following questions. · What are the primary tax benefits of 529 plans? · What are the most important things to know about the new provision in SECURE 2.0? · Where do we need to seek further clarification and what potential traps do we need to watch out for when rolling 529 plans into Roth IRAs? · What should CPAs recommend to their clients now? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit https://pfplanning.libsyn.com/pfp to access show notes with direct links. · Find decision charts updated for 2023 in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. · Use the Guide to Education Planning to support your clients. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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A lot of information is flying around on the importance of SECURE 2.0 and what this means for retirement planning. Get the bottom line of what you need to think about for your clients in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews retirement expert, Ed Slott, CPA. Ed shares: His take on the bill The issue of needing to take RMDs in years 1-9 when inheriting an IRA from someone who had already begun RMDs was not fixed His concern with what the replacement of the 50% penalty on missed RMDs may mean Nuances with IRS rule 72(t) The importance of thinking about the big picture when deciding whether deferral makes sense And more Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit https://pfplanning.libsyn.com/pfp to access show notes with direct links. Save the date for an in-depth webcast with Bob Keebler on February 1st and February 6th from 1:00 to 2:30 pm EST, SECURE 2.0: New retirement planning opportunities for your clients. Access the Proactive Planning Toolkit for decision charts to use with your clients and more. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Clients have three years left to use the enhanced unified credit before it gets cut in half. Putting holistic techniques in place that consider tax, financial planning, and asset protection sooner rather than later will be important. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews Marty Shenkman, CPA/PFS, JD, and Jonathan Blattmachr, JD, to get their thoughts on using SLATs and other strategies. They answer the following questions: How do SLATs work? Why are SLATs and other techniques effective for clients who won't be subject to the estate tax even when the unified credit is cut in half? Why is it important to mix and match techniques like SLATs, DAPTs, hybrid DAPTs, and SPATs to get the best results for your clients? What are the most critical considerations for making sure that your clients get the most access to these trust assets? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access Steve Oshins estate and trust decision charts. Access Bob Keebler's decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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As we look to the results of the midterm election, it appears that we will have a divided government in 2023-2024 and we will need to carefully consider the impact on our clients. Year-end planning could include tax loss harvesting for crypto, new energy provisions and investments, Roth conversions and filling up the 22% and 24% tax bracket. We will also need to give careful consideration to the preparation for the sunset of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 regarding the federal gift and estate tax exclusion. As you approach this with your clients, conversations and plans will need to be developed in preparation for the changes happening in 2026. In this PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS also addresses the following: What is going to happen to SECURE 2.0? Will the EARN Act pass? Will there be an Extenders package? Will there be an update to the 10% penalty connected to a corrective distribution? Will there be a change in the required beginning date (RBD)? Will there be changes to Substantially Equal Periodic Payment (SEPP) rules? Will there be changes to the grantor trust regulations? Will the Corporate Transparency Act be passed? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Learn more about this and other year-end planning strategies at Bob Keebler's webcast on November 17th and 28th (free with CPE for PFP Section members). Find Bob's decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit, exclusive to AICPA PFP Section members. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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2022 has been a volatile year in the stock market. Year-end planning will undoubtedly include tax-loss harvesting to offset capital gains for many clients. As you approach this with your clients, it's important to keep the wash sale rules in mind. In this PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Mark Fichtenbaum, CPA. Mark answers the following questions. What is the intent of the wash sale rules and what are some simple ways around this? How can you structure a transaction to keep the same position and realize a loss? How do these rules apply to cryptocurrency? What do planners need to watch out for with mutual fund capital gain dividends? What do planners need to think about related to clients who have passed in the last 15-20 months? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Learn more about this and other year-end planning strategies at Bob Keebler's webcast on November 17th and 28th (free with CPE for PFP Section members). Find Bob's decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit, exclusive to AICPA PFP Section members. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app
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Hurricanes Ian and Fiona and Typhoon Merbok are the latest natural disasters in the US to leave many people in a state of emergency. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews IRA expert Sarah Brenner, JD, to discuss the implications of taking withdrawals from IRAs during times of hardship. They share: Is there penalty and tax relief for those who face financial hardship in natural disasters? What help can IRA owners expect from Congress and the IRS? How can people use their IRAs to help hurricane victims? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Aftermath of a natural disaster checklist Dealing with catastrophic property loss Disasters and Financial Planning: A Guide for Preparedness and Recovery If you are personally affected by disasters of any kind, please consider applying for assistance through the AICPA Benevolent Fund. If you'd like to help fellow members in need, you can make a contribution here. The IRS has provided tax relief, including extended filing deadlines and dyed diesel penalty relief for taxpayers affected by Hurricane Ian; see the IRS's Help for Victims of Hurricane Ian webpage for the latest updates. Additional information can be found on the IRS's Tax Relief in Disaster Situations page and on the U.S. Small Business Administration's Disaster Loan Assistance. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Experiencing hurricanes, fires, and other disasters is overwhelming. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews disaster expert Jerry Schreiber, CPA, to discuss how CPAs can best support their clients through these events. Jerry answers the following questions: What defines a casualty or disaster loss? What are the primary authorities to figure out valuations, losses, etc.? How has the insurance market changed over the years with claims, premiums, and deductibles? How can CPAs best support clients facing a current or imminent disaster? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Aftermath of a natural disaster checklist Dealing with catastrophic property loss Disasters and Financial Planning: A Guide for Preparedness and Recovery If you are personally affected by disasters of any kind, please consider applying for assistance through the AICPA Benevolent Fund. If you'd like to help fellow members in need, you can make a contribution here. The IRS has provided tax relief, including extended filing deadlines and dyed diesel penalty relief for taxpayers affected by Hurricane Ian; see the IRS's Help for Victims of Hurricane Ian webpage for the latest updates. Additional information can be found on the IRS's Tax Relief in Disaster Situations page and on the U.S. Small Business Administration's Disaster Loan Assistance. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Spouses receive the best deal when it comes to being an eligible designated beneficiary. There are three options for what can be done when a spouse inherits an IRA from their deceased spouse. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Natalie Choate, Esq., to discuss the choices so that you can implement the most effective strategy for your clients. They discuss: The three options and which is the best route The better deal that spouses receive as eligible designated beneficiaries When it makes sense to deviate from the best route Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Make use materials in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Don't miss Bob's free CPE year end planning webcast, included with PFP Section membership. Read Natalie's free download of Estate Planning for Retirement Benefits Under SECURE and Proposed Treasury Regulations. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Many professionals haven't gone through a period of high inflation like we're experiencing now. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews expert Wade Pfau, PhD, CFA, to get you up to speed with what to be thinking about for your clients nearing and in retirement. Wade answers the following questions: Why is investing for retirement different from pre-retirement? How do risks change in retirement? What is the difference between investment risk and sequence of returns risk? What is the idea behind a "safe withdrawal rate"? Is the 4% rule a useful guideline for retirees? What is the impact of low interest rates and high market valuation levels on withdrawal rates? What is the impact of higher inflation on safe withdrawal rates? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Don't miss Bob's year end planning webcast, included with PFP Section membership. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Business owners can accumulate significant wealth by making use of a combination of defined benefit and defined contribution plans. In this PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews actuarial expert Neil Shore. Neil provides insight into the most effective way to help your business owner clients build their retirement nest egg. Neil responds to the following questions: What are the advantages for the business to sponsor a qualified retirement plan? What are the possibilities when you combine a defined contribution and defined benefit plan? Should the costs of these plans give a business owner pause? How do you choose a qualified service provider? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Don't miss Bob's year end planning webcast, included with PFP Section membership. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Where your clients choose to set up a trust can have significant tax and legal ramifications. There are nuances to consider whether you are involved in setting up new trusts for your clients or contemplating moving a trust to another state. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews attorney experts Jonathan Blattmachr and Richard Nenno to get their take on what CPAs and advisors need to be thinking about related to locating trusts. They answer the following questions? What are the laws of the various states? How does location of the trustee impact taxation? What factors are most important for creating a new trust or fixing an existing trust? How does location impact asset protection? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access Proactive Planning Toolkit for 2022 planning decision charts and the latest leg/reg issues. Use the Guide to Financial & Estate Planning as a reference library for these issues and more. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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If you have clients with large passive loss carryforwards and you're looking for ways to absorb these sooner rather than later, investing in oil and gas may be your answer. Join expert Dave Dyer, JD, as he is interviewed by Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, to fill you in on the opportunities. Dave answers the following questions: Where are we with oil and gas and what are the long-term prospects? What is the exception to passive activity rules for certain types of oil and gas investments? What are the risks to a general partner in an oil and gas partnership? When does it make sense to enter these partnerships as a limited partner? Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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On April 27, 2022, the IRS released proposed regulations that provide further guidance to the anti-clawback regulations released in 2019. In this PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler gets you back up to speed on what the 2019 regulations addressed and what you need to be mindful of with the 2022 regulations. He fills you in on how this new guidance applies to estate planning transfers such as notes, GRATs, GRITs, QPRTs, 2701 freezes, and transfers included in an estate. Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Read the proposed regulations. Go deeper into estate planning strategies with the PFP/PFS exclusive Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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Newly proposed actuarial tables were released on May 5th to value annuities, life estates, remainders, and reversions. To guide you in how this impacts current estate planning transactions, Bob Keebler interviews Larry Katzenstein and Vince Lackner in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. They discuss: The estate planning strategies impacted by the new tables Planning that may make sense to do before the new tables go into effect When to use the current tables and when to elect to use the proposed tables How to navigate these calculations in software programs like Number Cruncher and Tiger Tables Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access the current and proposed tables. Go deeper into estate planning strategies with the PFP/PFS exclusive Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning. Find Bob Keebler's 2022 planning decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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With the SECURE Act's 10-year payout rule, it becomes more important to understand how income flows from IRA to trust to beneficiary and the surprising consequences that may arise. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, interviews Jere Doyle, JD, LLM. Jere responds to these questions: From a fiduciary standpoint, what happens when an IRA is payable to a trust? What unintended results can happen when a QTIP or conduit QTIP is in place? Why is flowcharting and spreadsheeting how the estate plan will pay out so crucial to planning? How can separately managed accounts get around the fiduciary accounting income allocation rules? What changes when paying out from a Roth IRA to a trust? Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access the PFP/PFS exclusive Proactive Planning Toolkit to get Bob's 2022 planning decision charts. Hear more from Bob, Jere, and other top experts at the upcoming Advanced PFP, Advanced Estate Planning, and Advanced Tax Strategies for High Income Individuals Conferences at ENGAGE in June (attend in person or virtually). This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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During tax season, the IRS released SECURE Act proposed regulations that came with some surprises and made calculating RMDs more complicated. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler interviews Ed Slott to get you up to speed on the latest. They discuss: What's important for CPA financial planners to know about these new regulations How the IRS's at least as rapidly rule has thrown a hitch in calculating RMDs Why the new rules make Roth IRAs more beneficial What to know about spouses and minor children beneficiaries Nuances such as the ghost life expectancy rule and hypothetical RMDs Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Dive deeper into this topic with Bob Keebler on May 2nd or May 17th by registering for his webcast, How the 2022 SECURE Act proposed regulations will impact your clients. Tune in to other recent podcasts on SECURE including The ins and outs of the new SECURE Act proposed regulations and How SECURE 2.0 will impact retirement planning. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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HR 2954, also known as the Securing a Strong Retirement Act, passed the House on March 29th and is now waiting on a vote from the Senate. Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, shares the sections most pertinent to CPA financial planners in this episode of the PFP Section podcast, including but not limited to: Section 106 increases the required minimum distribution (RMD) age to 73 beginning on January 1, 2023 and continues to increase the age to 75 by January 1, 2033. Section 108 increases IRA contribution limits for those age 62 through 64 to $10,000 after December 31, 2023. Sections 201 and 202 remove RMD barriers for life annuities and qualifying longevity annuity contracts. Section 601 allows SIMPLE and SEP IRA plans to accept Roth IRA contributions after December 31, 2022. Various sections provide relief for prohibited transactions, excess contributions, and RMD violations. Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Read a Journal of Accountancy article on this topic. Register for Bob Keebler's AICPA webcast on May 2nd and May 17th, How the 2022 SECURE Act and SECURE 2.0 proposed regulations will impact your clients. Registration will be available soon. Use the Proactive Planning Toolkit audio learning to keep up with the latest and to access Bob's 2022 planning decision charts. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
The homestretch of the tax season is drawing near. On this episode of the Tax Section Odyssey April Walker, CPA, CGMA, Lead Manager — AICPA Tax Section, highlights three top-of-mind items lingering on as we near the end of busy season 2022. What you'll learn in this episode Status of relief around Schedules K-2/K-3 (0.50) Updates to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act Safeguards Rule (3.45) Where to hear more about the “billionaire tax” and other proposed tax reforms related to the 2023 fiscal year budget (6.36) AICPA resources Gramm-Leach-Bliley Information Security Plan Template — Tax preparers must implement security plans to protect client data. Failure to do so may result in a Federal Trade Commission (FTC) investigation. Download and customize this template to document your firm's policies. The 2023 tax revenue proposals released by the Biden Administration — In this March 29, 2022 episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, highlights the relevant proposals to CPA financial planners. Other resources General Explanations of the Administration's Fiscal Year 2023 Revenue Proposals — Commonly referred to as the “Greenbook,” the document summarizes the Administration's tax proposals contained in the fiscal year 2023 budget. FTC Strengthens Security Safeguards for Consumer Financial Information Following Widespread Data Breaches — The FTC announced on Oct. 27, 2021 updates to the Safeguards Rule to better protect the American public from breaches and cyberattacks that lead to identity theft and other financial losses. Keep your finger on the pulse of the dynamic and evolving tax landscape with insights from tax thought leaders in the AICPA Tax Section. The Tax Section Odyssey podcast includes a digest of tax developments, trending issues and practice management tips that you need to be aware of to elevate your professional development and your firm practices. This resource is part of the robust tax resource library available from the AICPA Tax Section. The Tax Section is your go-to home base for staying up to date on the latest tax developments and providing the edge you need for upskilling your professional development. If you're not already a member, consider joining this prestigious community of your tax peers. You'll get free CPE, access to rich technical content such as our Annual Tax Compliance Kit, a weekly member newsletter and a digital subscription to The Tax Adviser.
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On March 28, 2022, the Biden Administration released their 2023 fiscal year budget. The suggested tax reforms give you a heads up on what may be coming so that you and your clients aren't blindsided and can plan ahead in 2022. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, shares the proposals relevant to CPA financial planners, including: Higher marginal tax rates for high income earners Capital gains taxed at ordinary rates when 1M or greater for MFJ Transfers of appreciated assets by gift or at death taxed as realization events An additional tax for taxpayers with net worth greater than 100M The inability to create a trust that includes GST exemptions for more than 2 generations Limit the use of DAFs to avoid private foundation payouts End the use of GRATs and IDGTs And much more Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Access 2022 planning decision charts based on current law and audio learning to plan ahead for what may be coming in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. Read the General Explanations of the Administration's Fiscal Year 2023 Revenue Proposals. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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The long-awaited SECURE Act proposed regulations related to post-mortem IRA distributions are finally here. Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, walks through the latest proposals and shares what you need to know in this episode of the PFP Section podcast. Topics covered include: 2021 RMDs that were missed in the case of death post required beginning date Key points related to the new proposed regulations compared with the existing rules When the 5-year rule, 10-year rule, and the life expectancy rule apply Expansion of the definitions of eligible designated beneficiary, disabled, and chronically ill Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. PFP Section members and PFS Credential holders can follow along with the detailed slides. Keep up with latest proposals and find the 2022 planning decision charts in the Proactive Planning Toolkit. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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If you have had clients pass away recently, you will want to talk with their surviving spouse about the option to file to receive the benefits of portability, even if the decedent doesn't have a taxable estate. Tune in to this episode of the PFP Section podcast to hear expert Steve Siegel, JD, LLM, discuss: What portability is, how it works, and how to make the election How you can fix a missed portability election going back to January 1, 2011 The nuances of GST and state estate taxes Why it is important to make this election to create flexibility in the plan Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Use Steve Siegel's and Sid Kess's Adviser's Guide to Financial & Estate Planning as a reference library for topics like portability and more, exclusive to AICPA PFP Section members. Register for Bob Keebler's webcast, Practical Planning Strategies for the Mass Affluent, which will cover portability and more. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
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The timing of this new IRS notice 2022-6 is perfect in this phase when many are reprioritizing their lives and considering retiring early. Up until now, clients have likely been unable to make use of SEPPs because of low interest rates mandated by the IRS in prior guidance. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, shares: What IRS notice 2022-6 and substantially equal periodic payments (SEPPs) are all about The significant difference that the 5% interest rate will make in calculating SEPPs A case study to walk you through how this would impact a 50-year-old client who would like to retire early Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Follow the slides that provide visuals for what is covered in this podcast. Join Bob for his upcoming webcast, Practical Planning Strategies for the Mass Affluent, where he will cover this notice in more detail. Access the Proactive Planning Toolkit that includes charts, guides, audio learning, and client facing resources to keep up with the latest laws and proposals. Read IRS notice 2022-6. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was approved in the House of Representatives on Nov. 5, 2021 and is headed to President Joe Biden's desk to be signed into law. The House passed the legislation by a 228–206 vote after it passed the Senate by a 69–30 vote in August. In this Tax Section Odyssey episode, April Walker, CPA, CGMA, from the AICPA Tax Section, highlights major tax-related items contained in the bill and shares several resources available for practitioners to navigate the provisions. What you'll learn in this episode Status of the enactment of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (0.25) Early termination of the employee retention credit (ERC) (0.56) Cryptocurrency reporting (1.58) Build Back Better Act legislation status and related resources (3.30) Additional AICPA year-end resources (4.31) AICPA resources Year-End Tax Planning Letter for Individual Clients — Use this letter template to get the conversations started with your individual tax clients to help them take a fresh look at their current and future financial health. Year-End Tax Planning Letter for Small Business Clients — This small business client letter template provides a handy list of key considerations for this year that your clients need to factor in for next year and a jumping off point for them to contact you as their tax and financial planning adviser. 2021 Tax Year in Review Presentation for Clients — A presentation to use as a touchpoint with your clients to update them on various tax law changes and year-end reminders and encourage them to talk with you about their long-term financial plans. This template also works as a starting point for presentations to networking groups, rotary clubs, chambers of commerce and many other groups. CPA Marketing Toolkit — A toolkit to help you communicate with prospects and clients throughout your career to help you demonstrate your strength as a trusted adviser, assisting with all aspects of your clients' financial situations. Build Back Better Act: Where we are now — Recorded on Nov. 8, 2021, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, reports on the latest with the Build Back Better Act. Bob will also be speaking on a related webcast on Nov. 17, 2021. Note: If your podcast app does not hyperlink to resources, visit https://taxodyssey.libsyn.com to access show notes with direct links. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Tax Section, your home base to maintain your professional edge. To learn more about the Tax Section, check out aicpa.org/tax or sign up for a free web tour.
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Recorded on November 8th, 2021, Bob Keebler, CPA/PFS, reports on the latest with the Build Back Better Act. In this episode of the PFP Section podcast, Bob shares: What is in and what is out of the latest iteration of the House bill What must happen for the House to move forward with a vote What to expect with the Senate version of the bill and related vote Planning to consider for clients based on what we know now Access resources related to this podcast: Note: If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, visit http://pfplanning.libsyn.com/ to access show notes with direct links. Register to attend Game changing retirement proposals: What to do for clients now. Keep an eye on the Proactive Planning Toolkit audio learning and PFP News to stay up to date as we learn more. This episode is brought to you by the AICPA's Personal Financial Planning Section, the premier provider of information, tools, advocacy and guidance for professionals who specialize in providing tax, estate, retirement, risk management and investment planning advice. Also, by the CPA/PFS credential program, which allows CPAs to demonstrate competence and confidence in providing these services to their clients. Visit us online at www.aicpa.org/pfp to join our community, gain access to valuable member-only benefits or learn about our PFP certificate program. Subscribe to the PFP Podcast channel at Libsyn to find all the latest episodes or search “AICPA Personal Financial Planning” on your favorite podcast app.
Josh Cutler of Bluestem Financial Advisors, LLC talks with Marie Swift on why he is proud to be a member of the Alliance of Comprehensive Planners (ACP) and how he and the ACP annual conference task force planned for and shifted to a virtual event once the pandemic became a reality in 2020. The conference takes place over 3 partial days: Oct 28, 29 and 30, 2020. Marie Swift is speaking on the power of persuasion. Mitch Anthony, Bob Keebler, Natalie Choate and Susan Bradley are also speaking. Only $295 for any interested financial advisor - you do not need to be an ACP member to attend. Lots of CEUs, too! Learn more at 2020.ACPlanners.org/Registration
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Join us as our esteemed guest, Bob Keebler, provides us with must-know information on the new SECURE Act along with actionable steps you can take now to enhance your clients financial position. -- IU-2923935 (11/20) (Exp. 11/22)