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Andy summarizes the recent 2026 annual Social Security trustees report, including what it would actually mean if the system's trust fund were to deplete, and what changes can be made to ensure that doesn't happenLinks in this episode:The full 2026 Social Security trustees report - hereSummary of the recently proposed PROMISE Act - hereThe recent episode of Inspired Money with me, Wade Pfau and Mary Beth Franklin discussing all things Social Security - hereTenon Financial monthly e-newsletter - Retirement Planning InsightsYouTube channel - Retirement Planning Education (formerly Retirement Planning Demystified)Retirement Planning Education website - www.RetirementPlanningEducation.com To send Andy questions to be addressed on future Q&A episodes, email andy@andypanko.com
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau delve into various aspects of retirement planning, focusing on asset allocation, risk capacity, and the importance of Social Security strategies. They discuss the household balance sheet approach, the differences between risk capacity and risk tolerance, and the pros and cons of annuities versus TIPS for income generation. The conversation emphasizes the need for personalized financial planning and the significance of understanding one's retirement income style. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Asset allocation is crucial for retirement planning. A 90-10 portfolio may be suitable for affluent investors. Reliable income sources allow for more aggressive investment strategies. Risk tolerance affects investment decisions during market volatility. Social Security can be viewed as a valuable annuity. The household balance sheet approach helps assess financial health. Older individuals may benefit more from annuities due to longevity risk. Understanding personal financial goals is essential for effective planning. TIPS can provide inflation protection, but annuities offer guaranteed income. Taking a retirement income style assessment can clarify investment strategies. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Hydration Breaks 01:27 Asset Allocation and Retirement Planning 10:36 Risk Capacity vs. Risk Tolerance 11:06 Household Balance Sheet Approach 19:37 Social Security Strategies 29:14 Annuities vs. TIPS for Income 34:16 Conclusion and Future Plans Links
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia dive into the implications of the SpaceX IPO, exploring its unique characteristics, the risks associated with investing in IPOs, and the historical performance of such investments. They discuss the impact of index funds on IPOs and the broader lessons investors should consider when navigating the market, particularly in light of the excitement surrounding mega IPOs like SpaceX. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways SpaceX's IPO is historically unique due to its unprecedented size. Investors should be cautious about the hype surrounding IPOs. Historical data shows that IPOs often underperform compared to established companies. The excitement of an IPO does not guarantee a good investment. Index funds can create forced buying and selling dynamics during IPOs. Investors should understand the methodology behind index funds. Not all IPOs are created equal; some may not be profitable. The performance of passive funds can vary significantly based on index rules. Investors should focus on long-term strategies rather than chasing trends. Understanding the risks associated with mega IPOs is crucial for investment success. Chapters 00:54 The Unique SpaceX IPO 04:05 Investor Sentiment and IPO Risks 07:03 Historical Performance of IPOs 11:59 Impact of Index Funds on IPOs 18:00 Broader Lessons for Investors Links
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau dive into tax planning strategies, focusing on Roth conversions, effective marginal tax rates, and withdrawal strategies for retirement. They discuss the implications of current tax rates, the importance of blending techniques in tax planning, and the necessity of tax diversification for a successful retirement. The conversation is driven by listener questions, providing practical insights for navigating complex tax scenarios in retirement. The conversation dives into various aspects of retirement planning, focusing on Roth IRAs, Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), and annuities. They discuss the rules surrounding Roth IRAs, particularly the five-year requirement for qualified distributions. The conversation shifts to HSAs, highlighting their tax benefits and strategies for spending versus saving. Finally, they explore the complexities of managing annuities in relation to Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs), emphasizing the importance of understanding contract values and the implications of delaying income streams from annuities. Listen to now to learn more! Takeaways Roth conversions can be beneficial for legacy planning. You need to work through the math of conversions. Tax rates are at a historical low right now. Blending techniques can optimize your tax strategy. You can't just solve it mathematically. It's complicated; we need better software. What's my tax rate today versus in the future? Forty percent might be reasonable for Roth conversions. You want to always be blending your distributions. Tax diversification is crucial for retirement planning. You need to have had a Roth IRA open for at least five years. Inheriting HSAs can lead to tax implications for beneficiaries. HSAs provide tax-free distributions for qualified medical expenses. It's important to keep receipts for HSA distributions. Using HSAs strategically can aid in tax planning during retirement. RMDs must be taken from both IRAs and annuities. Delaying income from annuities may not be the best strategy. Spending down annuity contract value can maximize benefits. Understanding contract value is crucial for annuity holders. RMDs from annuities can be complex and require careful planning. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and World Cup Banter 01:49 Tax Planning Questions Begin 02:29 Roth Conversions and Tax Brackets 07:18 Analyzing Effective Marginal Tax Rates 11:23 Historical Tax Rates and Future Predictions 13:39 Withdrawal Strategies for Retirement 15:08 Blending Techniques in Tax Planning 21:08 The Importance of Tax Diversification 21:54 Understanding Roth IRA Rules 23:20 Navigating Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) 27:14 Tax Benefits of HSAs Explained 29:52 Strategies for Managing Annuities and RMDs Links
The standard understanding of life insurance goes like this: you buy a policy, pay the premiums, file it away, and hope it never gets used. Protection for your family if you die. That's it. But that's not what wealthy families are doing. American dynasties, high-profile entrepreneurs, and the country's biggest banks have been using life insurance as an active wealth-building tool for generations. Not as a replacement for investing. Alongside it. Valued specifically for what it gives them that a brokerage account never can: liquidity, access to capital, and control. https://youtu.be/773_NczfBww What follows unpacks the actual mechanics and why none of it is reserved for people with a Rockefeller-sized net worth. Table of ContentsThe core ideas:How do the wealthy use life insurance?The Trust and Insurance CombinationThe Cascading EffectThe Problem: Sequence of Return RiskThe Buffer in PracticeDo rich people have life insurance?How do the wealthy use life insurance?What is the Rockefeller strategy with life insurance?Why do banks own so much life insurance?Is using life insurance to build wealth instead of investing?What is the volatility buffer strategy?What is a family bank, and how does it work?Do I have to be wealthy to use this strategy? The core ideas: Wealthy families treat life insurance as a managed asset, not a forgotten product The Rockefeller blueprint combines trusts and whole life to create a cascading, multi-generational capital system Banks hold roughly $250 billion in life insurance for the same reasons: liquidity and stability Walt Disney, Ray Kroc, and others borrowed against policy cash value to fund businesses banks wouldn't touch Dr. Wade Pfau's research shows that whole life as a volatility buffer outperforms the "just invest the premium" alternative A family bank isn't a metaphor. It's a functioning system anyone can build. How do the wealthy use life insurance? Wealthy families use whole life insurance as the foundational “before asset” — a private, liquid capital base that comes before investing and supports every other financial move. They value it for tax-advantaged cash value growth, accessible liquidity that isn't tied to market cycles, asset protection from creditors in most states, and above all, control over their capital. Through a combination of policy loans and trusts, they fund businesses, protect assets across generations, and create a cascading system in which each death benefit replenishes the capital pool for the next generation. The same mechanics are available at any level of wealth with a properly designed policy. How the Wealthy Use Life Insurance Differently Than Everyone Else Wealthy families could absorb financial mistakes more easily than almost anyone. A bad investment, a failed business, a lawsuit. They'd survive. Yet they still put guardrails in place, specifically through whole life insurance. If the people who can most afford mistakes still protect themselves this way, what does that say for everyone else? For someone for whom a serious financial mistake isn't just painful but potentially devastating, the case is even stronger. The mindset shift is this: wealthy families don't see a life insurance policy as a product they bought and filed away. They see it as an asset they manage and deploy. The attributes they value aren't what most people focus on. They care about accessible liquidity that isn't tied to market cycles, so a bad year in equities doesn't force their hand. They care about asset protection from creditors and lawsuits, which whole life provides in most states (not all). And above everything: privacy, flexibility, and access to capital. Life insurance is private. The only way to know someone owns a policy is if they tell you. That's part of why this strategy stays largely out of view. Some of the U.S. presidents who have publicly disclosed their assets have shown whole life among them. That's notable, not because presidents are financial geniuses, but because they're disclosing what they actually have. The wealthy don't open with "what return does this get?" They open with control, access, and certainty. That order of questions matters. The Rockefeller Blueprint: Trusts, Policy Loans, and the Cascading Death Benefit The Rockefeller name comes up constantly in Infinite Banking conversations. Almost nobody explains what they're actually doing. The Trust and Insurance Combination Here's the mechanism. The Rockefeller family combines legal structure and whole life insurance. A family bank can be structured in many ways, depending on the family's goals, need for asset protection, and desired level of complexity. It may be as simple as outright policy ownership, or it may involve a trust, an LLC, a holding company, or a layered structure where a trust owns a holding company that owns an LLC designed to manage family capital. The structure can vary, but the purpose is the same: to create a private, liquid capital base using whole life insurance. That capital can then be accessed and directed toward productive uses, such as buying businesses, investing, funding education, or building assets that strengthen the next generation. The Cascading Effect When a family member dies, the death benefit doesn't just get handed out. It's held in trust and distributed according to the family's stated intentions, then refills the capital pool for the next generation, who repeat the same cycle. This is simultaneously a legacy strategy, a banking strategy, a liquidity strategy, and a values-transfer strategy. The trust and the insurance connected together are what make it continuous. Neither piece alone does what both pieces do together. One nuance worth flagging: trusts are not income-tax magic. In most cases, a trust does not eliminate income tax; it simply determines who reports and pays it, whether that is the trust, the grantor, or the beneficiaries. What trusts can do well is provide structure, accountability, estate-tax planning when properly designed, and a measure of asset protection depending on the type of trust, state law, and how much control is retained. That is real value, but it is a different kind of value than people sometimes imagine. This isn't a strategy reserved for famous dynasties. It works at a personal level too, one generation funding policies for the next, death benefits flowing down to nieces, nephews, grandchildren. Generation One is the hardest. The message isn't that you need to do this at scale immediately. It's about thinking long-term and taking small, high-quality steps. How a Death Benefit Becomes the Next Generation's Foundation The generational laddering concept, developed by Nelson Nash, sits at the heart of any family banking formula. A life insurance policy pays a death benefit. That death benefit funds the premiums on the next generation's policy. That policy pays its own death benefit, which funds the generation after. You can even skip a generation, grandparents to grandchildren. Each cycle creates a larger pool of capital. It's a growing family bank, not a one-time inheritance. The contrast between the two paths is concrete. A $1 million death benefit split four ways gives each child $250,000 outright. No strings. No direction. That's cutting the cord of accountability. The money is gone from the system. Whatever you hoped they'd do with it is just a hope. Hold that same death benefit in a trust, with clear intentions that it continues purchasing life insurance, and you have something different. Accountability with guardrails. Clarity and protective measures built into the structure. Not mandating, not controlling from the grave, but providing guidance and continuity. The goal isn't to control what your children do. It's to give wealth a structure that keeps it circulating in the family rather than dissipating in a single generation. Why Banks Hold Hundreds of Billions in Life Insurance This is the part many have never heard. Banks need somewhere to park their Tier 1 capital. Tier 1 capital is the core equity capital that absorbs losses and prevents insolvency. Regulators require banks to hold it and demonstrate they can access it quickly. What banks have consistently chosen as one of those safe places is life insurance. Bank-Owned Life Insurance, or BOLI, is how it works. Banks take out policies on highly compensated employees and hold the cash value as a capital asset. They use whole life, universal life, and a product designed specifically for banks. As employees age out, they cycle policies onto new people. Regulators cap life insurance at roughly 25% of Tier 1 capital. The numbers, as of June 30, 2025, are not small: Bank of America: ~$25 billion JPMorgan Chase: ~$12 billion PNC Bank: ~$11 billion Truist Bank: ~$7 billion U.S. banks total: ~$250 billion These figures are publicly available via bank rankings at usbanklocations.com, presented here as illustration, not endorsement. The institutions whose entire job is managing capital and risk at the highest level have parked a quarter-trillion dollars here for liquidity and stability. That's worth paying attention to. Not because banks are infallible, but because the reason they use it is exactly the same reason the wealthy use it, and the same reason it's worth considering in a personal financial plan. How Famous Entrepreneurs Funded Their Dreams With Policy Loans Walt Disney wanted to build Disneyland, but the banks said no, so he borrowed against his life insurance cash value. Capital he controlled, on his own timeline, repaid on his own terms. No restrictive bank covenants, no lost equity stake, no waiting for approval. He used it to help build what became a multi-billion-dollar empire. The key point: he borrowed from his own capital base while the policy kept doing its job....
Most people think of life insurance as something that protects a plan they've already built. We'd argue it does something stranger and a lot more useful — it creates wealth on its own terms, and it starts doing the job on day one. In this episode, we dig into the part of life insurance nobody spends enough time on: the death benefit. Not as a hedge against dying young, but as an active wealth-building tool that keeps working long after "replace my paycheck" stops being the reason to own the policy. It's about as life-insurancey as life insurance gets — and, for once, a good deal less technical than our usual fare. What we get into: The instant estate. A modest premium creates a large, guaranteed, income-tax-free sum the day the policy is issued — you're buying dollars at a discount. No brokerage account, no piece of real estate can replicate that on day one. Replenishing wealth in retirement. Using a death benefit to refill a drawn-down portfolio at the exact moment a surviving spouse needs it most — and why Wade Pfau's research found this kind of backstop can free up roughly 22% more spending while you're alive. The Social Security gap. When one spouse dies, household benefits typically drop by 30–40% permanently. We talk about how life insurance buys the survivor time, breathing room, and a buffer against rushed decisions in an emotional fog. Long-term care. How accelerated death benefit riders for chronic conditions help defray care costs — without the "use it or lose it" problem of traditional long-term care coverage. (They're a supplement, not a replacement, and we say so.) The real cost of dying. Probate, funeral costs, carrying costs on illiquid real estate, retitling headaches — and why a death claim that pays in weeks beats an estate that takes months. Here's the honest part: we're not claiming permanent insurance beats the market on raw return. It doesn't, and we'll tell you that plainly. The argument is narrower and more useful — there are specific jobs a portfolio structurally can't do, timed to the moment they matter most, that a death benefit does automatically. That's the difference between "protection" and "wealth building." Think the death benefit you already own — or are weighing — might be doing more work than you realized? We'd be glad to help you figure out where it fits. Send us a message or book a 30-minute call, and we'll talk it through.
In this episode of Retire with Style, hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau address various listener questions regarding retirement planning. They discuss the implications of long-term care and Medicaid, explore the ARVA framework for retirement income, and delve into variable spending strategies. The conversation also covers healthcare options for early retirees, methods to mitigate sequence of returns risk, and the evaluation of discount rates for Social Security. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the importance of personalized retirement strategies and the need for careful consideration of various financial tools and options. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways The retirement income challenge is a great opportunity for planning. Self-paying for long-term care can provide better options later. The ARVA framework offers a structured approach to retirement income. Variable spending strategies can help manage retirement funds effectively. Healthcare options should be carefully considered for early retirees. Mitigating sequence of returns risk is crucial for long-term stability. Annuities can provide longevity credits that bonds cannot. Using TIPS as a discount rate for Social Security is generally advisable. Personalized retirement strategies are essential for success. Annual updates to spending strategies can simplify retirement planning. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Announcements 03:10 Long-Term Care and Medicaid Options 06:09 Exploring the ARVA Framework for Retirement 08:52 Understanding Variable Spending Strategies 14:00 Healthcare Options for Early Retirees 17:58 Mitigating Sequence of Returns Risk 24:06 Evaluating Social Security Discount Rates Links Ready to build a retirement strategy that's tailored to you? Join Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia for the FREE Retirement Income Challenge, July 13–16 from 12–2 PM ET. Over four live sessions, you'll discover your RISA® Profile, calculate your Funded Ratio, and use both to build a personalized retirement income strategy that aligns with your goals, preferences, and financial reality—so you can move forward with greater clarity and confidence. Register now: retirewithstyle.com/ric
In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia continue to answer listener questions, including how stocks perform during inflationary periods, whether equity investments can be viewed through a bond-duration lens, the tradeoffs between buying a deferred income annuity today versus waiting to purchase a SPIA later, and how QLACs interact with Roth conversion rules. Along the way, they emphasize that there are no universally "best" retirement strategies and that successful retirement planning depends on matching financial tools and investment approaches to each retiree's goals, preferences, and tolerance for commitment versus flexibility. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Stocks generally have pricing power over the long run, but they are not guaranteed to outpace inflation during every historical period. Inflation protection is strongest when layered across multiple tools—including delayed Social Security, TIPS, I Bonds, and appropriately sized equity exposure. For time-segmentation investors, maintaining a diversified long-term equity portfolio is generally more practical than trying to assign "duration" to different stock categories. Purchasing a deferred income annuity today provides certainty around current interest rates and mortality assumptions but requires giving up liquidity and flexibility. Waiting to purchase a SPIA preserves optionality and keeps assets available for changing needs or legacy goals, even though future annuity pricing is uncertain. The choice between a deferred income annuity and waiting to annuitize is less about finding the "best" investment and more about selecting the strategy that best fits your retirement preferences. A QLAC can provide valuable longevity insurance and reduce required minimum distributions, but it does not eliminate the IRA pro-rata rule when using a backdoor Roth strategy. The RISA framework is designed to help retirees identify the retirement income strategy that best aligns with their individual goals, resources, and decision-making style Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Strategies 02:53 Understanding the RISA Framework 05:59 Investment Strategies and Inflation 11:53 Applying Bond Principles to Equities 19:02 Deferred Income Annuities vs. Immediate Annuities 24:58 Qualified Longevity Annuity Contracts (QLACs) and Backdoor Roth IRAs Links Looking for a retirement strategy that's actually built for you? Join Alex Murguia on July 1 at 1 PM ET for a FREE Retirement Researcher webinar, Are You Sure Your Retirement Strategy Fits?, where he'll walk through the four major retirement income approaches and show how the RISA® Framework can help you identify the strategy that best aligns with your goals, preferences, and vision for retirement. Register Now: retirewithstyle.com/podcast
That is the trap. And it is compounded right now by something called recency bias — the tendency to assume that what has been happening will keep happening. Markets have gone up for a long time. New IPOs are capturing attention. There is enthusiasm in the air. And enthusiasm breeds complacency. People assume the funds that have been performing well will keep performing well, without checking whether the companies inside them still deserve their valuations. 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A dividend-income approach helps manage this risk by providing cash flow that reduces forced selling during down markets." } } ] } ] Should You Sell When the Market Drops? The Case for Staying Invested During Volatility By Tom Dupree, Founder — Dupree Financial Group | Last Updated: June 2026 | dupreefinancial.com I have been managing money for 47 years. In that time, I have watched investors survive crashes, recessions, a pandemic, and a handful of moments that felt — from inside them — like the whole thing was coming apart. The ones who came through it best almost never did it by being clever about timing. They did it by staying invested when everything in them said to get out. That sounds simple. It is not. Because when the market is dropping and the financial news is relentless and your account balance is going the wrong direction, selling feels like the rational move. It feels like you are finally doing something instead of just watching it happen to you. But here is what I have seen happen to the investors who acted on that feeling. They sold. They waited for things to settle down. And by the time they felt safe enough to get back in, the market had already recovered most of the ground they were trying to protect themselves from losing. The exit was imperfect. The re-entry was worse. And the cost of both — measured in missed growth and missed dividends — followed them for years. This post is about staying invested during market volatility — what that actually means in practice, when it is right to hold, and how dividend income changes the calculation entirely for anyone approaching or already in retirement. Key Takeaways The best market days happen during the worst ones. Research shows 76% of the market’s best single days occur during bear markets or in the first two months of a new bull run. Exiting to avoid the declines means missing the recoveries. Dividends solve a problem index funds cannot. Income from your holdings lets you cover living expenses in retirement without selling assets at depressed prices — the key to managing sequence of returns risk. Valuation is not the same as market fear. The right reason to sell a position is a change in the company’s underlying value or business fundamentals — not a falling stock price. Cash is a valuation call, not a retreat. Holding more cash than usual signals that current prices don’t offer enough compelling opportunities — it preserves capital and creates optionality. Knowing what you own is not optional. Without understanding your underlying holdings, market price movements become your only signal — and that is exactly when emotional decision-making takes over. Why Panic Selling Costs More Than the Drop Itself There is a number I come back to every time markets get rough, and it never stops being striking. Seventy-six percent of the stock market’s best single days over the past 30 years occurred either during a bear market or in the first two months of a new bull market. Think about what that means in practical terms. The days that do the most to rebuild a damaged portfolio almost never arrive when things feel safe. They arrive in the middle of the chaos — often within days of the worst declines. Fidelity’s data makes the cost of missing those days concrete. A hypothetical $10,000 invested in the S&P 500 from 1988 through 2024 grew to over $500,000 for a buy-and-hold investor. Miss just the 5 best days over that entire period and that gain shrinks by 38%. Miss the 50 best days and the $500,000 portfolio is worth under $40,000. Same time period, same starting amount — the only difference is whether you were in the market on a handful of days you could not have predicted in advance. Most investors who exit during a decline are not planning to miss 30 or 40 good days. They are planning to get back in when things settle down. But the settling down and the best days are not separate events. They are the same event. The investor who moved to cash in March 2020 — when the news was genuinely terrifying — locked in losses right before one of the fastest recoveries in market history. The recovery did not wait for the all-clear signal. “Income from the portfolio tilts the table in your favor — it puts time back on your side while you wait for price appreciation.” — Tom Dupree, Dupree Financial Group I have watched this play out with investors who were half right. They called a decline correctly. The market went down, just as they predicted. But it did not go down as far as they expected, so they never pulled the trigger to buy back in — and then the market moved up, and their window closed. Being right about direction and wrong about magnitude still cost them. A partial win that turns into a full loss. The ego piece matters too. Once someone has made a public call to get out, getting back in means admitting the exit was a mistake. I have seen investors stay on the sidelines for years rather than admit they were wrong. The market moved on. They did not. Why Retirement Investors Face a Different Problem Than Everyone Else For investors who are still accumulating — still adding to their portfolios every month — a market decline is a nuisance. It may even be an opportunity. They are buyers, and lower prices mean they get more for their money. For investors who are drawing from their portfolios to pay for their lives, a market decline at the wrong time is something far more serious. There is a specific name for it: sequence of returns risk. Retirement researcher Wade Pfau has quantified the magnitude of this effect: approximately 77% of a portfolio’s final retirement outcome can be explained by the returns of just the first ten years. The first decade is not just an early chapter in a long story. For most retirees, it is most of the story. Fidelity puts a dollar figure on it. Two hypothetical retirees each start with $1 million and withdraw $50,000 a year, experiencing the exact same set of annual returns over 30 years — just in reverse order. The retiree whose strong years come first finishes with over $3 million. The one whose losses arrive first sees the portfolio gone by year 27. Same returns. Same withdrawals. Different sequence. Completely different life. This is the problem that average returns and long-term market graphs do not show you. They assume you are a lump sum sitting patiently in the market for decades, untouched. Most retirees are not that. They are drawing money out regularly. And when you are drawing money out, the order of returns matters as much as the average of them. I have said this on the show, and I will say it again here: Wall Street will show you long-term averages because averages look good. But averages do not pay your electric bill in a down market. What pays your electric bill is income — dividends arriving in your account regardless of what prices are doing. How Dividend Income Changes the Calculus on Staying Invested When a stock pays a meaningful dividend, the decision to sell it is not just a price decision. It is also a decision to give up a stream of income — potentially forever. That changes the analysis. Take a position like AGNC, a mortgage REIT that carries an above-average dividend yield. The price moves around. But the income it generates is meaningful, consistent, and independent of what the stock is doing on any given Tuesday. Selling to avoid price volatility means giving up that income. And over time, the income you give up typically exceeds whatever you thought you were protecting yourself from. The same logic applies to long-held pipeline stocks. The dividend yield on those positions for new buyers today is far less attractive than it was when we established our stake years ago. But we have continued to hold because the income stream we are receiving — based on our original cost basis — is still excellent, and we do not believe we can replicate that income at current prices. This is the part of portfolio management that does not show up in most financial planning software. It is not just about what a stock is worth today. It is about what it pays you while you hold it. A stock that generates consistent income buys you time — time to wait through price volatility without being forced into a sale, time for the thesis on the business to play out, time for the market to re-price something it has temporarily misjudged. That is what I mean when I say income puts time back on your side. In retirement, time is the asset you have the least of. Dividends give some of it back. When Does It Actually Make Sense to Sell? Staying invested does not mean holding everything forever. The argument against panic selling is not an argument against selling. It is an argument for selling with a reason — a real, company-specific, valuation-grounded reason. We trim positions when the math stops making sense. Earlier this year, we reduced our oil company holdings. Not because oil was going to collapse. Not because the market scared us. But because when we looked at the valuations, the stocks had gotten expensive relative to what the underlying business was actually producing. The commodity prices and the stock prices had diverged to a point where the math no longer worked in our favor. That is a logical reason to take some off the table. We also sold Kroger. That one took a little more explanation to clients. Kroger looks like a grocery company. And it is. But a meaningful portion of Kroger’s profitability runs through its fuel stations. When gasoline prices rise and consumption falls, that profit driver weakens. Meanwhile, the grocery side of the business had to contend with sharply higher food prices — which does not help unit volume. The business model was under real pressure on two fronts. The stock price had not fully caught up with that reality. So we sold. Notice what both of those decisions have in common. Neither one was driven by where the S&P 500 was trading or what the Federal Reserve said last week. Both were grounded in a specific company, a specific business dynamic, and a specific valuation judgment. That process has to be built into how you manage a portfolio from the beginning — not invented in the middle of a panic. Investor Howard Marks captured it well: “You can’t predict, but you can prepare.” The preparation is knowing, in advance, what would cause you to sell a given holding. Price hitting a specific valuation threshold? A change in the company’s earnings power? A dividend cut? Define it before the market gets rough, so you are not making those decisions under pressure. “You can’t predict, but you can prepare.” — Howard Marks, investor and co-founder of Oaktree Capital Management What a Large Cash Position Really Signals Right now, Dupree Financial Group holds roughly 35% of client portfolios in cash and short-duration bonds. That is well above our historical norm. And I want to be specific about what that means and what it does not mean. It does not mean we think the market is about to crash. Nobody knows that. It does not mean we are sitting on our hands. Cash in this rate environment still generates a return. What it does mean is that when we look at current equity valuations broadly — across the sectors we know well, the companies we follow closely — we are having a harder time finding things we want to own at current prices. Valuations look stretched relative to what the underlying businesses can reasonably deliver. And when we cannot find things worth buying at the price the market is asking, holding cash is not a failure of nerve. It is a rational response to what the market is offering. Here is the result we can point to: portfolios with that 35% defensive allocation have delivered returns comparable to some fully-invested indexes. Protecting retirement capital while generating competitive returns with meaningfully less risk — that is not a bad outcome. It is actually the whole point. We are not a hedge fund required to be 100% deployed. We are managing retirement money. That means the risk profile — not the potential return — has to come first. The sell discipline flows from the risk profile. Everything else follows from that. The Real Problem With Most 401(k) Portfolios I talk to a lot of people approaching retirement who, when I ask what they own, tell me the names of their funds. Fidelity Target Date 2025. Vanguard Total Market. Some growth fund their HR department selected in 2011. They do not know the underlying holdings. They do not know their actual sector exposure. They do not know what percentage of the fund is in companies that have become very expensive over the past few years, and what percentage is in companies that are still reasonably priced. They do not know whether any of their holdings pay meaningful dividends. What they do know is the price of the fund. And when the price goes down, that is the only signal they have. No context, no analysis, no understanding of whether the drop reflects something real or just a broad market reaction that will pass. So they feel fear. And some of them act on it. That is the trap. And it is compounded right now by something called recency bias — the tendency to assume that what has been happening will keep happening. Markets have gone up for a long time. New IPOs are capturing attention. There is enthusiasm in the air. And enthusiasm breeds complacency. People assume the funds that have been performing well will keep performing well, without checking whether the companies inside them still deserve their valuations. The major indexes have also undergone significant rotation lately — the companies that led for the past several years are no longer the leaders. If you hold a broad index fund and have not looked inside it recently, the portfolio you thought you owned may be meaningfully different from the one you actually own today. Know what you own. Why you own it. And what conditions would cause you to make a change. That is not a complicated framework. But without it, you are flying on instruments you cannot read in weather you did not see coming. What to Actually Do: A Framework for Staying Invested Wisely Here is how we think about it at Dupree Financial Group — and how I would encourage any retirement investor to think about it: Understand each holding before volatility arrives. Know what every position is, what it pays, what would make you sell it, and what would make you add to it. This should be settled before the market gets rough, not improvised in the middle of it. Build income into the portfolio. Dividend-paying holdings provide cash flow that lets you meet retirement expenses without selling assets at depressed prices. This is the most direct and reliable way to manage sequence of returns risk. Sell on valuation, not on fear. If the stock price has risen well beyond what the business justifies — or if something has fundamentally changed in how the company earns money — that is a reason to trim or exit. A declining stock price, by itself, is not. In fact, a declining price in a good business is often a reason to consider adding. Treat cash as a judgment about opportunity, not a retreat from markets. Holding cash is a statement that you do not currently see enough value to deploy it. It keeps you liquid for when better opportunities appear. It is not the same as giving up on investing. If you do not understand your portfolio, get help before the next downturn. You should be able to articulate, in plain terms, what you own and why. If you cannot, find someone who can help you get there. Not a product salesperson — a fiduciary who charges a fee to give you advice that is actually in your interest. Frequently Asked Questions Should I sell my investments when the stock market drops? Selling during a market drop is one of the costliest decisions a retirement investor can make. Research from Hartford Funds shows that 76% of the stock market’s best single days occurred during a bear market or in the first two months of a new bull market. Investors who exit to avoid the declines frequently miss the recoveries that follow almost immediately — often within days. Unless there is a fundamental, company-specific reason to sell, staying invested has historically been the better outcome. How does dividend income protect a retirement portfolio during volatility? Dividend income provides a return that doesn’t depend on stock prices rising. When markets fall, dividends continue to arrive and can cover living expenses without forcing a sale at depressed prices. For retirement investors managing sequence of returns risk, income from dividends reduces or eliminates the need to liquidate holdings at exactly the wrong moment — which is when the long-term damage typically gets done. What is the right way to decide when to sell a stock? The sell decision should be grounded in company-specific valuation and fundamentals — not broad market fear. A position may warrant trimming when its price has risen well beyond what the underlying business justifies, when the dividend yield for new buyers has become unattractive, or when the company’s core business model has changed materially. Selling because the market is falling, absent a specific reason tied to that company, is rarely the right call. Can you successfully time the stock market to avoid losses? Consistent broad market timing has an extremely poor track record. Fidelity’s analysis shows that a hypothetical $10,000 invested in the S&P 500 from 1988 through 2024 grew to over $500,000 for a buy-and-hold investor — but missing just 5 of the best days reduced those gains by 38%, and missing the 50 best days left the investor with under $40,000. The best and worst days cluster together, so exiting to avoid the bad ones typically means missing the good ones too. Valuation analysis on individual holdings is a more reliable guide than macro market calls. What is sequence of returns risk and why does it matter in retirement? Sequence of returns risk is the danger that poor market returns early in retirement — combined with ongoing withdrawals — permanently damage a portfolio before it can recover. Retirement researcher Wade Pfau found that roughly 77% of a portfolio’s final outcome is explained by just the first ten years of returns. Fidelity’s research puts a dollar figure on it: two hypothetical retirees, each starting with $1 million and withdrawing $50,000 a year, experience the same returns over 30 years but in reverse order — one finishes with over $3 million, the other runs out of money by year 27. A dividend-income approach helps manage this risk by providing cash flow that reduces forced selling during down markets. The Close: What the Market Does Not Owe You I learned this one the hard way early in my career, and it cost me personally and it cost some of my clients. The market does not care that you own something. It does not reward loyalty. It does not notice that you’ve held a position through three bad quarters and deserve a good one. The market is just the market. In the long run, it prices things with reasonable efficiency. In the short run, it is highly inefficient — driven by fear, greed, momentum, and a hundred other forces that have nothing to do with the underlying value of the businesses you own. Your job — and our job — is to understand value well enough to hold when the market underprices something good, and to step back when it overprices something we used to like. To get paid while we wait, through dividends. To stay optimistic enough to keep doing this at all, because investing requires belief that businesses will create value over time and that human ingenuity will keep generating things worth owning. None of that is possible if you sell every time it gets uncomfortable. Staying invested is not a passive act. Done right, it is one of the most disciplined things an investor can do. Related Reading and podcasts: The Tom Dupree Show — Full Episode Archive Dupree Financial Group — How We Build Income Portfolios What Is a Fee-Only Fiduciary and Why Does It Matter? Schedule a Complimentary Portfolio Review If you’re not sure whether your portfolio is built to generate income through market volatility — we’ll take a look. No charge. No pressure. Just an honest conversation about what you own and whether it’s working for you. Call: 859-233-0400 | Visit: dupreefinancial.com About the Author Tom Dupree is the founder of Dupree Financial Group and has worked in the investment industry for 47 years. Dupree Financial Group is a fee-only, fiduciary Registered Investment Advisory firm based in Lexington, Kentucky, specializing in income-generating, dividend-paying portfolios for retirees and those approaching retirement. Tom hosts The Tom Dupree Show, a weekly radio program and podcast covering retirement investing topics in plain English. Dupree Financial Group is an SEC-registered investment adviser. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training. 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In this final part of the Retire With Style Live Q&A, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia answer a wide range of retirement planning questions covering annuities and life insurance surrender charges, the financial impact of losing a spouse, Roth conversions as a hedge against the "widow's tax penalty," tax-loss harvesting through direct indexing, dividend reinvestment strategies in retirement accounts versus taxable accounts, HSA withdrawal rules after age 65, and appropriate cash allocations in retirement portfolios. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the importance of tax planning, understanding how different retirement income strategies align with personal preferences, and avoiding one-size-fits-all approaches when managing retirement assets and income. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Surrendering an annuity early can trigger surrender charges, while permanent life insurance policies often take many years before cash value exceeds premiums paid. The death of a spouse can create significant tax challenges because the surviving spouse typically moves from married filing jointly to single tax brackets. Roth conversions can be an effective strategy for reducing future RMD burdens and mitigating the "widow's tax penalty" for a surviving spouse. Direct indexing and tax-loss harvesting allow investors to capture losses while remaining invested, potentially creating future tax benefits and improving after-tax outcomes. Tax-loss harvesting is no longer just for ultra-high-net-worth investors, as technology has made these strategies more accessible and scalable. In IRA accounts, continuing to reinvest dividends during retirement generally remains the simplest and most efficient approach. In taxable brokerage accounts, turning off automatic dividend reinvestment can make rebalancing and distribution planning more tax-efficient. HSA funds can be used tax-free for qualified medical expenses at any age, while after age 65 non-qualified withdrawals avoid the 20% penalty but still incur income tax. Medicare Part B, Part C (Advantage), Part D premiums, and IRMAA surcharges can generally be reimbursed from an HSA, but Medigap premiums cannot. Holding 40% of a retirement portfolio in cash may be excessive when annual withdrawal needs are relatively low, and could indicate a mismatch between an investor's retirement income strategy and personal preferences. Chapters 00:00 Tax Considerations in Asset Sales 01:57 Understanding Life Insurance and Annuities 04:03 Financial Implications of Spousal Death 06:23 Roth Conversions and Widow's Penalty 07:36 Tax Loss Harvesting Strategies 17:12 Dividend Reinvestment in Retirement Accounts 22:48 Using HSA Distributions for Medical Expenses 25:52 Cash Reserves in Retirement Planning Links Looking for a retirement strategy that's actually built for you? Join Alex Murguia on July 1 at 1 PM ET for a FREE Retirement Researcher webinar, Are You Sure Your Retirement Strategy Fits?, where he'll walk through the four major retirement income approaches and show how the RISA® Framework can help you identify the strategy that best aligns with your goals, preferences, and vision for retirement. Register here: retirewithstyle.com/podcast
In Part 2 of this Live listener Q&A episode, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia tackle several retirement planning topics, including Social Security claiming strategies for spouses with age differences, how younger workers should think about Social Security's long-term solvency, whether to assume future benefit cuts in retirement projections, the impact of the "widow's penalty" on tax planning and Roth conversions, evaluating an older variable annuity with high fees, tax considerations when selling investments in a taxable account, and how to think about maintaining portfolio discipline during retirement. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize balancing planning conservatism with practicality, avoiding unnecessary forecasting, and making decisions that support long-term retirement goals rather than reacting to headlines or uncertainty. Takeaways When spouses have similar Social Security benefits, but one spouse is significantly older, the older spouse often has the strongest case for delaying benefits until age 70 because that higher benefit is more likely to become the survivor benefit. Younger workers may not need to heavily discount future Social Security estimates because projected wage growth could offset a significant portion of any future benefit reductions. For retirees already near claiming age, assuming a 25% reduction in future Social Security benefits can be a reasonably conservative planning assumption. The eventual Social Security reform package is unlikely to rely solely on benefit cuts and will more likely include a combination of tax increases and benefit adjustments. The "widow's penalty" can significantly increase taxes for a surviving spouse because income often remains similar while tax brackets and Medicare thresholds become less favorable. Potential future tax increases and the widow's penalty are both compelling reasons to consider Roth conversions even when current projections suggest little immediate tax benefit. High-fee variable annuities should be evaluated carefully, especially to determine whether valuable income guarantees justify the ongoing costs. If guaranteed income sources such as pensions and Social Security already cover essential expenses, a variable annuity can potentially serve as a bridge strategy to delay Social Security benefits. When selling investments from a taxable account, maintaining the portfolio's target asset allocation is generally more important than trying to predict which investments will perform best or worst next. Tax-efficient selling decisions often come down to managing capital gains by choosing whether to realize gains from low-basis or high-basis shares depending on the investor's broader tax situation. Chapters 00:00 Social Security Strategies for Couples 06:28 Concerns About Social Security Reliability 10:16 Planning for Future Social Security Benefits 13:20 Roth Conversions and Tax Planning 18:18 Evaluating Variable Annuities 22:24 Taxable Account Management Strategies 25:05 Maintaining Asset Allocation Discipline 27:53 Tax Considerations in Asset Sales Links
In Part 1 of this live Q&A episode of Retire With Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia answer listener questions covering reverse mortgages, retirement withdrawal rates, Roth conversion strategies, tax-efficient retirement income planning, asset allocation decisions, and bond ladders. The discussion emphasizes that retirement planning rarely has one-size-fits-all answers, highlighting the importance of balancing taxes, investment risk, spending flexibility, and personal preferences. Wade also shares practical rules of thumb for effective marginal tax rates, explains why TIPS ladders can serve as a benchmark for safe withdrawal rates, and discusses how different portfolio allocations may lead to surprisingly similar retirement income outcomes despite varying levels of volatility. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Paying down a reverse mortgage (HECM) is generally optional, but doing so can increase future borrowing capacity through a larger line of credit. Building retirement income "buckets" does not necessarily require moving money out of a 401(k); short-, medium-, and long-term buckets can often be created within the account itself. Most retirees would not benefit from withdrawing money from a tax-deferred account simply to build a taxable account, as it usually creates unnecessary taxes. Tax planning is largely about smoothing taxable income over time rather than creating large swings in income from year to year. For many retirees with less than roughly $3 million in assets, targeting a 12% effective marginal tax rate can serve as a useful rule of thumb when evaluating Roth conversions. Based on current TIPS yields, a 30-year inflation-adjusted TIPS ladder could support an estimated safe withdrawal rate of about 4.7%. Spending flexibility can often support higher withdrawal rates than rigid spending plans that require the same inflation-adjusted income every year. Historical research suggests that portfolios ranging from roughly 35% to 80% stocks have produced surprisingly similar sustainable withdrawal rates despite meaningful differences in volatility. Higher stock allocations may increase long-term legacy values, but lower stock allocations can provide a smoother retirement experience without significantly reducing sustainable spending. Retirement income bond ladders differ from traditional accumulation bond ladders because they are designed to match future spending needs rather than continuously reinvest maturing bonds. Chapters 00:00 Navigating Home Equity Conversion Mortgages 04:21 Building Retirement Buckets 07:50 Understanding Effective Marginal Tax Rates 13:31 Determining Safe Withdrawal Rates 21:25 Exploring Asset Allocation and Sustainable Withdrawal Rates 25:00 Developing a Blending Strategy for Roth Conversions 27:41 Navigating Software for Financial Planning 28:37 Understanding Bond Ladders vs. Managed Bond Funds 29:30 Social Security Strategies for Couples Links
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia discuss the non-financial aspects of retirement with Jason Rizkallah. They explore how relationships change during retirement, the importance of maintaining social connections, and the need for communication between spouses. The conversation also touches on balancing time spent together and apart, as well as the significance of leading a healthy lifestyle in retirement. The hosts emphasize the importance of planning and discussing these changes before and during retirement to ensure a smooth transition. In this conversation, Jason Rizkallah discusses the various lifestyle changes that come with retirement, emphasizing the importance of building new routines, finding purpose, and maintaining social connections. He highlights the challenges of unstructured time and the need to adapt to aging, while also encouraging a positive outlook on these transitions. The discussion covers practical strategies for navigating retirement successfully, including the importance of planning and fostering relationships. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Relationships may change significantly after retirement. Engaging in hobbies can help meet new people. Communication with your spouse about retirement goals is crucial. Expect changes in household roles after retirement. Discussing financial plans is important for a successful retirement. Balancing time together and apart is key to a healthy relationship. Planning for family obligations is necessary in retirement. Mental and physical health are both important in retirement. It's never too late to have important conversations about retirement. Most folks operate under a routine to some degree. Creating a new routine is important in retirement. You have to make an effort to maintain social connections. Avoid the trap of doing nothing in retirement Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Planning 02:07 Navigating Relationship Changes in Retirement 12:51 Balancing Time Together and Apart 18:46 Maintaining a Healthy Lifestyle in Retirement 19:36 Building New Routines in Retirement 24:06 Transforming Lifestyle Changes into Opportunities 29:37 Navigating Unstructured Time 31:34 Strengthening Relationships in Retirement 33:40 Embracing Aging and Its Challenges Links Join Our Next Live Q&A Session! We're hosting our next Retire With Style YouTube Live Q&A on Wednesday, June 3rd at 12:00 PM ET. Wade and Alex will be answering your retirement planning questions live! ✅ Submit your question in advance at retirewithstyle.com ✅ Or join us live and ask your question in the chat Come be part of the conversation—your questions often inspire future episodes!
This episode of Retire With Style explores the non-financial aspects of retirement, focusing on how retirees can build purpose, identity, and fulfillment beyond just having enough money. Wade Pfau, Alex Murguia, and guest Jason Rizkallah discuss the importance of “retiring to something, not from something,” emphasizing that retirement planning should begin with envisioning the life you want before determining the financial resources needed to support it. The conversation covers common retirement misconceptions, the emotional transition away from work-based identity, the risks of isolation and lack of purpose, and the value of testing retirement goals before fully committing to them. They also explore phased retirement, evolving relationships, and how work can still play a meaningful role in retirement for those who genuinely enjoy it. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Retirement planning should start with defining the life you want to live, not just calculating numbers and investment returns. A healthier retirement mindset is to retire to something meaningful rather than simply escaping a job you dislike. Many people discover that goals they postponed for decades are not actually priorities once retirement arrives. Testing retirement activities before fully committing, such as renting an RV before buying one, can help avoid costly mistakes and disappointment. Work often provides structure, identity, relationships, and purpose, all of which can feel suddenly absent in retirement. Retirement can create emotional challenges like isolation, inertia, or depression if retirees lack meaningful goals or social engagement. Many couples choose to retire around the same time regardless of age differences, creating new relationship dynamics that require communication and planning. Over 40% of retirees leave work earlier than expected due to health issues, caregiving responsibilities, or job loss, making early planning especially important. Some retirees continue working in a limited or consulting capacity because they genuinely enjoy their profession and value staying engaged. Financial plans work best when investments are designed to support a clearly defined retirement lifestyle rather than determining the lifestyle afterward. Chapters 03:20 Understanding Purpose and Passion in Retirement 05:03 Transitioning Mindsets: Retiring To Something 08:10 The Importance of Finding Your Passion 11:02 Exploring Hobbies and Interests 13:29 Real-Life Examples of Retirement Aspirations 16:20 Coping with Unmet Expectations in Retirement 18:42 Trial Runs: Testing Retirement Activities 20:16 Exploring Retirement Activities 23:04 The Impact of Work Identity on Retirement 27:32 Navigating Relationships in Retirement 32:34 The Shift in Retirement Mindset 36:20 Phased Retirement and Continuing Work Links
In this episode of Retire With Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia walk through the foundational elements of estate, legacy, and incapacity planning from Chapter 11 of the Retirement Planning Guidebook. They discuss why estate planning is about far more than drafting a will, including how to organize important financial and personal documents, avoid common beneficiary designation mistakes, understand the role of trusts and probate, and prepare powers of attorney and healthcare directives before they are needed. The conversation emphasizes the importance of making life easier for loved ones during emergencies or incapacity, while also highlighting why professional estate planning guidance can help retirees avoid costly and emotionally difficult mistakes. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Beneficiary designations override your will, making regular reviews critically important after major life changes. Estate planning is not just about distributing assets; it is also about preparing others to manage your affairs during incapacity. Organizing financial accounts, insurance policies, passwords, and important documents can significantly reduce stress for loved ones. Living trusts can help avoid probate and maintain privacy while providing more control over asset distribution. Testamentary trusts may be cheaper to create, but they generally do not avoid probate. Financial powers of attorney should be established before cognitive decline or incapacity becomes an issue. Banks may still create obstacles for powers of attorney, which is why proactive setup and verification are important. Healthcare directives and living wills should be discussed openly with family members, not simply stored away in a folder. Estate planning should include practical details like pet care instructions, funeral wishes, and emergency contacts. DIY estate planning mistakes can unintentionally disinherit family members or undermine years of careful financial planning. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Planning 01:01 Estate Planning Essentials 06:08 Organizing Personal Information 11:18 Insurance Policies and Their Importance 15:04 Understanding Beneficiary Designations 20:01 The Role of Trusts in Estate Planning 23:43 Power of Attorney Explained 28:11 Healthcare Directives and Final Wishes Links
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia delve into the intricacies of tax planning as part of retirement strategy. They discuss the importance of asset location in retirement accounts, the pitfalls that retirees face regarding taxes, and strategies for effective tax planning. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful consideration of how different types of income can impact tax liabilities, including Social Security and Medicare premiums. The hosts also highlight the significance of rebalancing portfolios in a tax-efficient manner and the benefits of utilizing tax maps for better financial planning. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Asset allocation should come before asset location in retirement planning. Tax-efficient asset classes should be prioritized in taxable accounts. Rebalancing in tax-advantaged accounts avoids generating taxable income. Understanding the social security tax torpedo is crucial for retirees. Roth conversions can be strategically timed to minimize tax impact. Medicare premiums can significantly increase based on income levels. Effective tax planning can lead to substantial savings in retirement. Utilizing buffer assets can help manage tax liabilities effectively. Tax maps can guide retirees in making informed financial decisions. Regularly reviewing tax strategies is essential for optimal retirement planning. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Planning and Tax Strategies 02:52 Understanding Asset Location in Retirement Accounts 17:34 Tax Pitfalls in Retirement Planning 30:02 Strategies for Effective Tax Planning Links
There is roughly a ten-year window centered around your retirement date, five to ten years before, and five to ten years after called "The Retirement Risk Zone". This is when you're most vulnerable to sequence-of-returns impacting the longevity of your withdrawal strategy. We cover this idea brought up by Wade Pfau in an episode of "The Long View", a show hosted by Christine Benz, Amy C. Arnott, and Ben Johnson - specifically: The Retirement Risk Zone The Rising Equity Glide Path The Social Security Delay Bridge After that, I answer a listener question: Frank is planning to delay Social Security and wants to know — does it make sense to take bigger withdrawals from the portfolio in your 60s and then scale back in your 70s once Social Security kicks in? Short answer: yes — but how you do it matters a lot. We'll walk through it. Finally, in our "Retire to Something" segment: After 50 years in the workforce, a former Senior of VP in Manufacturing inspires us with ideas he is doing in his retirement. Resources: Episode of The Long View from Morningstar, featuring Wade Pfau: What Is the 'Retirement Risk Zone?' The Retirement Starts Today Blueprint Connect with Benjamin Brandt: Subscribe to the This Week in Retirement: http://thisweekinretirement.com Get the Retire-Ready Toolkit: http://retirementstartstodayradio.com Work with Benjamin: https://retirementstartstoday.com/start Get the book!Retirement Starts Today: Your Non-financial Guide to an Even Better Retirement Follow Retirement Starts Today in:Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or iHeart
Dr. Wade Pfau explains four ways to beat sequence of return risk and turn your retirement savings into retirement income. For most of your working life, retirement planning feels relatively straightforward. You save. You invest. You grow your portfolio. But as Dr. Wade Pfau explains, retirement doesn't just flip that process in reverse. It changes the entire equation. Pre-retirement, you're adding money into your portfolio. Market downturns can actually help because you're buying more shares at lower prices. In retirement, the opposite is true. “When you’re taking a distribution from your assets and the markets are down… you have to sell more shares,” Dr. Pfau explains, “and that creates dynamics that can dig a hole for the portfolio.” That shift—from accumulation to distribution—is what makes retirement income planning fundamentally different. The Risks Change in Retirement One of the biggest insights from the conversation is that retirement introduces a new set of risks that don't show up the same way while you're working. Dr. Pfau highlights three major ones: Longevity risk — living longer than your money lasts Market risk — especially when withdrawing from investments Spending shocks — unexpected expenses that show up year after year Retirees often experience about 10% of their spending as unexpected each year. In other words, surprises aren't rare. They're part of the plan. And that means your retirement strategy needs to account for them. Sequence of Returns Risk: The Hidden Danger One of the most important—and least understood—risks in retirement is sequence of returns risk. This is the idea that when market returns happen matters just as much as how much you earn overall. Dr. Pfau explains it this way: If markets perform poorly early in retirement, your portfolio can be permanently damaged—even if returns are strong later. “If markets do poorly early on… you start to dig a hole from your portfolio,” he says. In fact, he estimates that for a 30-year retirement, the first 10 years of returns can determine about 80% of the outcome. That's a completely different way of thinking about risk. It's not just about average returns anymore. It's about timing. Why There's No “One Right Way” With all these risks, many retirees want a simple answer: What's the best strategy? But Dr. Pfau pushes back on that idea. “There's not going to be the case that there's just one optimal approach,” he explains. “You've got to find the approach that's right for you.” That's where his concept of retirement income styles comes in. Some people prefer: Flexibility and market growth Predictable income and stability Time-segmented (bucket) approaches Guardrails and risk boundaries Most retirees, in reality, use a combination of these approaches—whether they realize it or not. If you have Social Security, investments, and a savings account, you're already using multiple strategies at once. The goal isn't to pick one. It's to align your approach with what you're trying to accomplish. The Real Question: What Are You Solving For? One of the most important questions I ask clients is simple: What are you solving for? Are you trying to: Maximize income today? Protect against running out of money? Maintain flexibility? Leave a legacy? Interestingly, retirees often say they want to enjoy their money—but their behavior suggests something different. Dr. Pfau notes that many retirees continue to grow their assets instead of spending them, even when they have the ability to enjoy more of their retirement. That disconnect can lead to a retirement that looks successful on paper—but doesn't feel that way in real life. Why Traditional Investing Falls Short Another key insight comes from the origin of modern investing theory itself. Wade points out that Modern Portfolio Theory was designed for institutions—not retirees. When its creator, Harry Markowitz, later considered how it applies to households, he realized the problem is much more complex. Households don't just grow assets. They have to fund spending—over an unknown time horizon. That's a completely different challenge. Building a Real Retirement Plan So where do you start? Dr. Pfau's framework begins with two critical steps: Understand your retirement income style Understand your risk exposure From there, you can begin building a plan that aligns your income, investments, taxes, and goals. But that brings us to step zero of the 5 step retirement plan: Know your longevity. Because how long your retirement lasts—and how you feel about that uncertainty—affects every decision that follows. The Bottom Line Retirement isn't just about having enough money. It's about turning that money into income—while managing risks that didn't exist before. That's why retirement income planning is more complex than saving for retirement. And it's why the best plans aren't built around a single strategy. They're built around you. Don't forget to leave a rating for the “Retire Today” podcast if you've been enjoying these episodes! Subscribe to Retire Today to get new episodes every Wednesday. 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In this episode, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia revisit reverse mortgages and explain why they are often misunderstood in retirement planning. Rather than a last-resort tool, they frame modern HECM reverse mortgages as a strategic asset that can enhance retirement outcomes when used properly. The discussion highlights how a growing line of credit can act as a buffer against market downturns, improve tax efficiency, and even provide reliable income, ultimately making the case that home equity should be actively coordinated alongside investments and Social Security in a well-designed retirement plan. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Reverse mortgages are often misunderstood and unfairly dismissed based on outdated myths Home equity should be treated as a usable retirement asset, not just a legacy asset A reverse mortgage line of credit can serve as a buffer asset to manage the sequence of returns risk The line of credit grows over time, increasing flexibility even if unused Loan proceeds are not taxable income, which can improve tax efficiency in retirement Reverse mortgages are more reliable than HELOCs since they cannot be frozen during market stress They can provide guaranteed income streams through tenure or term payment options Using a reverse mortgage early as part of a strategy is typically more effective than waiting until it is a last resort Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Reverse Mortgages 02:30 History and Evolution of Reverse Mortgages 05:51 Understanding the Myths and Misconceptions 10:07 The Logic Behind Reverse Mortgages 13:34 The Growing Line of Credit Explained 16:45 Buffer Assets and Their Importance 17:39 Exploring Buffer Assets in Retirement Planning 20:11 Understanding Reverse Mortgages as Income Streams 23:15 The Mechanics of Reverse Mortgages 28:17 Cost Considerations for Reverse Mortgages 30:09 Identifying Ideal Candidates for Reverse Mortgages 34:09 Last Resort Options and Their Implications Links
In 2022, the Bloomberg U.S. Aggregate Bond Index lost over 13%. Stocks and bonds fell at the same time, and the core promise of the 60/40 portfolio — that bonds protect you when equities drop — broke down completely. If you're a high-income investor relying on bonds for the "safe money" portion of your portfolio, that year should have raised a serious question: what actually belongs in that allocation? Three independent academic studies offer a surprising answer. Research from Ernst & Young found that integrating permanent life insurance as a fixed-income component produced approximately 20% more sustainable retirement income than investment-only strategies across 1,000 Monte Carlo scenarios. Wade Pfau's buffer asset research showed that drawing from a whole life policy during just three down-market years turned a completely depleted portfolio into a $2.26 million ending balance. And the Pfau-Kitces rising equity glidepath study found that the optimal retirement strategy requires a guaranteed, non-correlated foundation — exactly the role whole life cash value can fill. The mechanism isn't complicated. Major mutual insurers invest in the same bonds that sit inside bond funds, but they hold them to maturity. When rates rise, bond fund prices fall — but whole life dividend rates increase as carriers reinvest at higher yields. Then there's the tax math. A 4.5% bond yield at a 40% combined tax rate nets you roughly 2.5%. Whole life cash value growth is tax-deferred, policy loans aren't taxable income, and they don't show up in your MAGI — which means they won't trigger Medicare IRMAA surcharges. None of this means you should abandon bonds entirely. But if you're concerned about taxes, sequence-of-returns risk, and interest rate exposure, it's worth looking at what the research actually says about where whole life fits. _______________________________________________________ If you'd like to talk through how this applies to your situation, schedule a 30-minute call — no obligation, no sales pitch or if you'd prefer to write us first, you can click right here.
Our guest on the podcast today is retirement researcher Wade Pfau. Wade is the founder of Retirement Researcher, an educational resource on retirement planning for individuals and financial advisors. He's co-founder of the Retirement Income Style Awareness Tool and a co-host of the Retire With Style podcast. He's a professor of practice at the American College of Financial Services and a research fellow with the Limra Retirement Income Institute. And he's also a principal and director of retirement research for McLean Asset Management. Wade has written several books, including his most recent, a third edition of his Retirement Planning Guidebook. He holds a doctorate in economics and a master's degree from Princeton University and Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Science degrees from the University of Iowa. He's also a chartered financial analyst. Episode Highlights 00:00:00 Updates to the Retirement Planning Guidebook 00:00:29 Do Retirees Today Have a Stronger Starting Spending Rate? 00:04:03 Asset Allocation, Annuities, and Target-Date Funds 00:08:11 Retirement Income Styles 00:15:07 Non-US Safe Withdrawal Rates and Flexible Spending Strategies 00:23:55 Probability of Success and Estimating Longevity 00:27:47 Underspending, Organic Income, and Mortgage Payoff 00:35:46 Exploring the Retirement Risk Zone 00:39:20 Equity Glide Paths, Sequence Risk, and Delaying Social Security 00:46:43 Annuities: Private Equity Concerns and Due Diligence More Retirement Research From Wade Pfau Exploring the Retirement Risk Zone Reducing Retirement Risk with a Rising Equity Glide Path More From Morningstar What's Your Retirement Income Style? 8 Reasons You Might Need to Tweak Your Portfolio Wade Pfau: The Risks of Retirement Today If you have a comment or a guest idea, please email us at TheLongView@Morningstar.com. Follow Christine Benz (@christine_benz) and Ben Johnson (@MstarBenJohnson) on X, and Christine Benz, Amy Arnott, and Ben Johnson on LinkedIn. Visit Morningstar.com for new research and insights from Christine, Ben, and Amy. Subscribe to Christine's weekly newsletter, Improving Your Finances. If you want more Morningstar podcasts, check out The Morning Filter and Investing Insights. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of Retire With Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia introduce the fundamentals of long-term care planning as part of their ongoing walkthrough of the Retirement Planning Guidebook. They clarify what long-term care actually is, how it differs from traditional healthcare, and why it represents one of the largest and most unpredictable financial risks in retirement. The conversation explores how long-term care is defined, the likelihood of needing care, early warning signs to watch for, and the full continuum of care options from informal caregiving to nursing homes. They also outline the four primary ways to fund long-term care and discuss how retirees can begin thinking about planning for this potentially significant expense. Takeaways Long-term care is generally defined as needing help with at least two activities of daily living for more than 100 days. Medicare does not cover long-term care, making it a critical planning gap for many retirees. Long-term care is one of the largest and most unpredictable retirement expenses, potentially exceeding $1 million in extreme cases. While many people will need care, much of it initially comes from unpaid caregivers like family members. Early warning signs often show up in managing finances, driving, or household tasks before basic daily living needs decline. Care exists on a spectrum, from in-home support to assisted living and nursing homes. There are four main ways to fund care: self-funding, Medicaid, traditional insurance, and hybrid insurance solutions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Long-Term Care 01:38 Understanding Long-Term Care 06:08 Statistics on Long-Term Care Needs 11:39 Planning for Long-Term Care 12:49 Options for Long-Term Care 19:27 Funding Long-Term Care 24:44 Medicare vs. Medicaid for Long-Term Care Links
In this episode of Retire With Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia walk through what actually happens when you enroll in Medicare and where people tend to make costly mistakes. They break down the enrollment timeline, clarify how Medicare interacts with Social Security, and explain why failing to enroll can leave you unexpectedly exposed to major healthcare costs. The conversation also explores how Medicare decisions fit into broader retirement planning, including healthcare cost estimates, risk preferences, and the role of Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) in preparing for future expenses. Takeaways Medicare enrollment is not automatic if you delay Social Security, you must sign up yourself. At age 65, Medicare typically becomes your primary insurance, and other coverage may not be paid without it. Not enrolling in Medicare can leave you exposed to major out-of-pocket healthcare costs. Many types of coverage (COBRA, ACA plans, retiree insurance) do not count as primary after 65. A typical couple may need around $375,000 for healthcare in retirement (excluding long-term care). Medicare choices reflect your risk preference: pay more upfront for predictability or less with more uncertainty. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Medicare and Health Insurance 09:39 Understanding the Medicare Enrollment Process 18:50 Financial Planning for Healthcare Costs Links
Jay Jacobs, U.S. head of equity ETFs at BlackRock, says that the artificial-intelligence revolution has delivered massive spending, but not at levels that have been spent relative to gross domestic product, during other generational shifts like the introduction of the automobile. As a result, while he understands the bubble concerns, he expects AI to continue holding its place among BlackRock's global thematic trends. Also on that list of trends is geopolitical shifts, which were well underway before current events evolved into a war in Iran; because those trends were in place before today's developments, Jacobs says he doesn't expect markets or outlooks to be dramatically impacted by headline events. Jacobs also discusses the new iShares Staked Ethereum fund, a new development in the crypto space, which the firm is launching today. Wade Pfau, professor of retirement income, at The American College of Financial Services, discusses his revised, third edition of "Retirement Planning Guidebook: Navigating the Important Decisions for Retirement Success," which includes a new section covering sequence-of-inflation risk. Pfau says that concern -- which financial advisers mostly overlooked -- is particularly important now given growing concerns about sticky inflation, and that it may be as important for retirement savers as sequence-of-return risk, which Chuck typically says is his biggest retirement-savings worry. Plus, Todd Rosenbluth, head of research at VettaFi, leans into global turmoil this week, picking a diversified international fund as his ETF of the Week.
Roger Whitney shifts from financial planning to the non-financial pillar of relationships, sharing a live conversation with Harry Reis about how to feel more loved and connected in retirement. Together they explore the science behind belonging and loneliness, introduce practical mindsets for deepening relationships, answer listener questions, and close with the team's latest book recommendations.OUTLINE OF THIS EPISODE OF THE RETIREMENT ANSWER MAN(00:00) This show is dedicated to helping you not just survive retirement but have the confidence and clarity to lean in and rock it.(00:27) Roger outlines the month ahead: a focus on relationships, an upcoming financial deep dive with Wade Pfau, wisdom from retirees navigating health care before Medicare, a candid discussion on retirement calculators, and a live Noodle hangout.CONVERSATION WITH HARRY REISS(02:00) Roger introduces Harry Reis, co-author (with Sonja Lyubomirsky) of How to Feel Loved, for a conversation recorded live in the Rock Retirement Club.(05:17) Roger asks Harry what led him down the path to study relationships and partner with Sonja Lyubomirsky for the book.(15:00) Harry talks about the loneliness epidemic and the effects of not feeling loved.(17:45) Roger and Harry talk about the obstacles and myths of being loved. (23:15) Harry introduces the sea-saw framework for relationships.(27:00) Harry shares practical mindsets for strengthening connection, including listening to learn, radical curiosity, multiplicity, and mutual vulnerability.(43:30) Roger reflects on why this is important.LISTENER QUESTIONS(45:00) Listeners share questions about one-sided conversations, vulnerability, and love languages, leading to practical discussion about compatibility, communication, and choosing people willing to “play seesaw.”WHAT'S ON THE BOOKSHELF?(58:00) The team shares recent reads.SMART SPRINT(1:05:55) Consider one relationship you want to deepen. Practice listening to learn this week. Ask one more follow-up question than you normally would and notice what happens.REFERENCESSubmit a Question for RogerSign up for The NoodleThe Retirement Answer ManHow to Feel Loved by Sonja Lyubomirsky and Harry Reis
Roger Whitney wraps up the four-part series on navigating health care before Medicare by introducing a practical decision-making framework using the OODA Loop—observe, orient, decide, act—to help you avoid unforced errors and make a confident judgment call. He walks through organizing your retirement cash flow, estimating MAGI and ACA subsidy eligibility, evaluating COBRA, ACA, and private coverage options, and weighing tax optimization against simplicity and continuity of care. He's joined by Taylor Schulte of Define Financial to discuss how professionals navigate Roth conversions, Social Security timing, ACA cliffs, and the trade-offs between optimizing for subsidies versus long-term tax planning.OUTLINE OF THIS EPISODE OF THE RETIREMENT ANSWER MAN(00:00) This show is dedicated to helping you not just survive retirement, but have the confidence to lean in and rock it.(00:30) Roger introduces the final week of the health care before Medicare series and previews upcoming episodes with Harry Reese (co-author of How to Feel Loved) and retirement researcher Wade Pfau.PRACTICAL PLANNING SEGMENT(02:30) Roger reviews the three “heads” that must be managed before Medicare- cost, continuity of care, and complexity.(03:30) Roger talks about avoiding unforced errors that could cost you money, disrupt care, or create unnecessary stress.(05:18) Roger introduces the OODA Loop—observe, orient, decide, act—as a practical way to think step by step about health coverage choices. (05:52) Observe: Build a 5-year retirement income and spending plan, estimate taxes and MAGI, identify where you fall relative to the ACA subsidy cliff, and review withdrawal sources (taxable, pre-tax, Roth) along with future RMD implications.(14:21) Orient: Clarify what matters most to help you make a decision.(20:00) Decide & Act: Choose a direction, document your reasoning, update your plan of record, and implement the distribution strategy that supports your choice.CONVERSATION WITH TAYLOR SCHULTE(22:25) Roger introduces Taylor Schulte from Define Financial(23:15) Why health care before Medicare shouldn't automatically delay retirement and how assumptions often go untested.(26:50) Evaluating alternatives beyond ACA, including COBRA as a short-term bridge and private plans.(31:50) The tension between Roth conversions and ACA subsidies, and how Social Security timing affects MAGI.(34:20) Avoiding the “optimization trap”: sometimes paying more for simplicity still results in a resilient retirement plan.(36:40) The key takeaway is that there's no perfect answer—retirees should explore options, make informed decisions without fear, and use healthcare planning as a tool rather than a barrier or excuse to delay retirement.SMART SPRINT(43:35) Set a reminder to review your health care strategy using a structured approach—especially if retirement or Medicare enrollment is approaching. The goal is to be intentional, not reactive.REFERENCESSubmit a Question for RogerSign up for The NoodleThe Retirement Answer ManKaiser Family Foundation (KFF)Healthcare.govDefine Financial- Taylor SchulteStay Wealthy Retirement Show- Taylor Schulte (podcast)
This episode of Retire with Style features Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau discussing the role of annuities in retirement planning, drawing from Wade's Retirement Planning Guidebook. They examine the purpose of annuities, the primary arguments for and against their use, and the key types available. The conversation also emphasizes how annuities align with different retirement income styles and broader income strategies. Wade explains core concepts such as mortality credits and the distinctions between fixed and variable annuities, offering a clear framework for evaluating whether and how annuities may fit into a retirement plan. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Annuities are tools that fit well with certain retirement income styles. They provide guaranteed lifetime income through risk pooling. Arguments against annuities often stem from viewing them as investments rather than income tools. Annuities can have high fees, especially variable annuities. Mortality credits allow for higher spending in retirement. Fixed annuities provide principal protection, while variable annuities do not. The RISA helps identify which retirement income style fits an individual. Annuities can be compared to bonds, not stocks, for retirement planning. Understanding the different types of annuities is crucial for effective planning. Annuities can be used for tax deferral, but not in tax-deferred accounts. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Annuities 02:25 Understanding Annuities and Their Purpose 04:04 Arguments For and Against Annuities 08:26 Types of Annuities and Their Fees 12:05 Annuities vs. Mutual Funds 15:13 Longevity Credits and Retirement Planning 19:21 Different Types of Annuities Explained 24:21 Understanding Annuities and Their Types 33:20 The Role of RISA in Retirement Planning 42:28 Integrating RISA with Annuity Choices Links
Trent Fortner, a 40+ year veteran in the life insurance and wealth planning space gives an 89 minute masterclass on how life insurance, if incorporated properly can completely reshape your financial plan and wealth building strategies. Trent lays the groundwork and dives into the numbers with his calculators to prove that a financial plan without life insurance can't compete with one that does.Connect with Trent: https://trentfortner.com00:00 Intro 00:44 Introducing Trent Fortner 01:39 Returning to Basics & Overarching Planning02:07 LEAP and Infinite Banking 03:47 Working with Nelson Nash in the 1990s 06:26 Power of Life Insurance & the LEAP Process 06:45 Problem with Product-Centric Planning 07:33 Dr. Wade Pfau & Non-Correlated Assets 08:57 Risks of Indexed Universal Life (IUL) 12:23 Holistic Planning 15:32 LEAP Present Plan Model 21:41 Client Choices After Discovery 22:50 Addressing the “Cost” Objection 24:39 Compounding Taxes 33:24 Impact of Losses on Savings 39:08 Taxes Are a Complete Loss 44:36 Flattening Taxes 48:53 Adding Benefits with Permanent Life Insurance 49:39 Compounding vs. Whole Life Insurance 56:42 Life Insurance vs. High-Yield Savings Account 01:03:01 Rich on Paper vs Rich In Real Life 01:06:52 Ways to Use Permanent Life Insurance 01:11:37 Gains, Advantages, Risks 01:22:04 Final ThoughtsWatch the Video on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/vG8jaEDRDPQWant a Life Insurance Policy? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.
In this episode of Retire with Style, hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau discuss the launch of the third edition of the Retirement Planning Guidebook and respond to audience questions on tax planning and retirement strategy. They explain what's new in the latest edition, explore tax-efficient planning concepts including Roth conversions, and unpack key issues such as drawdown strategies and preferential income stacking. The conversation also touches on potential future tax changes, offering practical insights to help listeners make more informed retirement planning decisions. Takeaways The third edition of the Retirement Planning Guidebook is shorter and more affordable. Tax maps are included in the new edition of the book. Roth conversions can be beneficial even if taxes are paid from an IRA. Preferential income stacking can significantly impact tax rates. Future tax legislation is uncertain, and planning should follow current laws. Blending distributions from different accounts can optimize tax efficiency. Roth conversions should be considered based on individual tax situations. Beneficiary considerations can influence the decision to convert to Roth IRAs. It's important to understand effective marginal tax rates for better planning. Avoid pulling money from IRAs to invest in taxable accounts. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 01:44 Book Launch Insights 09:09 Tax Planning Questions Begin 11:26 Drawdown Order and Legacy Planning 12:41 Roth Conversions and Tax Implications 15:32 Preferential Stacking Explained 18:14 Future Tax Legislation Predictions 20:57 Roth Conversions and Tax Payments 23:29 Beneficiary Considerations for Roth IRAs 26:38 Strategic Drawdown Planning 30:12 Navigating Tax Strategies for Retirement Spending Links
In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia break down key concepts in retirement income planning, including present value, discount rates, and internal rates of return. They explain how these tools apply to real-world decisions such as Social Security claiming and choosing between a pension and a lump sum. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding cash flows and using sound mathematical analysis to inform decisions, while still accounting for personal preferences and risk. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Present value and breakeven analysis are crucial for financial planning. Understanding discount rates helps evaluate future cash flows. Internal rate of return is essential for comparing investment options. Financial decisions often boil down to present value calculations. Social security optimization relies on present value analysis. Pension versus lump sum decisions require careful discount rate consideration. Cash flow evaluation is key in retirement planning. Investment decisions should factor in opportunity costs. The relationship between interest rates and present value is significant. Financial planning is both a mathematical and an artful process. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Planning 03:49 Understanding Present Value and Discount Rates 06:40 Evaluating Cash Flows and Internal Rate of Return 09:32 Applications in Financial Planning 12:46 The Impact of Interest Rates on Valuation 15:30 Real-Life Financial Decisions and Break-Even Analysis 18:53 Social Security and Pension Decisions 22:05 The Funded Ratio Tool and Its Importance Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
On Jesse's 12th "Ask Me Anything" episode, he opens the year by tackling the questions that tend to surface when calendars turn and retirement feels closer than ever. He begins with a thoughtful exploration of whether "this is the year to retire," unpacking how sequence-of-returns risk, market valuations, spending accuracy, and portfolio construction matter far more than trying to guess the next market move, and why building flexibility—not perfect timing—is the real defense against early-retirement risk. From there, Jesse shifts to a practical and surprisingly nuanced discussion on getting kids and grandkids started in investing, weighing Roth IRAs, custodial accounts, and taxable strategies while emphasizing the twin lessons of earned money and compounding—and how to balance long-term discipline with making investing engaging and educational. He then addresses how portfolios should evolve as investors age and as assets grow, explaining why the glide path toward retirement is as much about risk capacity, risk need, and behavioral fit as it is about age, and why excess capital fundamentally changes how—and why—you take risk. He closes with a comprehensive walk through the key ages and milestones that shape a financial plan, from early adulthood to Social Security, Medicare, and required minimum distributions, giving listeners a clear mental map of when critical doors open and close. Throughout, Jesse blends technical insight with behavioral clarity, helping listeners not just answer financial questions, but build a durable way of thinking about decisions that will compound for decades. Key Takeaways:• The decision to retire is less about predicting markets and more about understanding cash flow, spending flexibility, and downside protection in the early years. • Writing down the rationale behind major investment decisions helps reduce future regret and emotional reactions. • Many retirees underestimate their spending, which can create false confidence in retirement readiness. • Teaching kids about investing works best when it combines earned income, parental matching, and simple, long-term strategies. • Excess capital changes the nature of investment decisions, allowing greater freedom without jeopardizing core goals. • Knowing the key financial ages—Social Security, Medicare, Roth rules, and required minimum distributions—helps investors anticipate decisions rather than react under pressure. Links:https://bestinterest.blog/should-retirees-sell-stocks-move-to-cash/ https://bestinterest.blog/great-investors-little-secret/ https://bestinterest.blog/rmds-sequence-risk-retirement-destruction/ https://bestinterest.blog/e87/ Wade Pfau's SRR Chart: https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=461168 https://bestinterest.blog/when-not-to-rebalance/ Key Timestamps:(03:51) – Smart and Dumb Reasons to Move to Cash (16:46) – Sequence of Returns Risk (20:47) – Spending and Lifestyle in Early Retirement (23:30) – Getting Kids Involved in Investing (26:10) – Tax Implications and Control of UGMA Accounts (30:38) – Investment Strategies for Financial Independence (36:44) – Rebalancing in Retirement (43:57) – Important Ages and Events in Retirement Planning Key Topics Discussed:The Best Interest, Jesse Cramer, Wealth Management Rochester NY, Financial Planning for Families, Fiduciary Financial Advisor, Comprehensive Financial Planning, Retirement Planning Advice, Tax-Efficient Investing, Risk Management for Investors, Generational Wealth Transfer Planning, Financial Strategies for High Earners, Personal Finance for Entrepreneurs, Behavioral Finance Insights, Asset Allocation Strategies, Advanced Estate Planning Techniques More of The Best Interest:Check out the Best Interest Blog at https://bestinterest.blog/ Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog Consider working with me at https://bestinterest.blog/work/ The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for education and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
As we close out 2025 and head into the New Year, we're sharing one final Best of episode before returning with new conversations in January. This week's replay is Alex's top pick from the year, a conversation that stood out for its relevance, insight, and the questions it generated from listeners. We'll be back soon with brand new episodes in 2026. Until then, Happy New Year, and thank you for being part of the Retire With Style community! Repost from Episode 174 In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia sit down with Dr. Daniel Crosby, a leading voice in behavioral finance, to unpack the psychological side of investing in today's volatile markets. Together, they examine how market swings and media noise shape investor behavior—and why having a thoughtful media diet and disciplined decision-making framework is more important than ever. This conversation lays the foundation for next week's episode, where the discussion will shift toward deeper questions of wealth and meaning. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Market volatility can trigger anxiety—even among professionals. It's normal to feel fear during downturns, but those emotions don't have to drive your decisions. Limiting exposure to financial news may help you stay focused and make better choices. Recognizing the incentives behind financial media can help you consume it more critically. More information isn't always better—clarity often comes from less, not more. Patience matters. Reminding yourself that “this too shall pass” can be grounding. Uncertainty often causes more stress than bad news itself. Taking time to reflect before acting can lead to better financial outcomes. We tend to give others better advice than we give ourselves—pause and consider what you'd tell a friend. Automation and structured plans are powerful tools to reduce emotional decision-making. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Behavioral Finance and Market Volatility 02:56 Understanding Market Reactions and Investor Psychology 06:01 The Impact of Media on Financial Decision Making 08:47 Navigating Uncertainty in Financial Markets 12:05 The Importance of Patience and Discipline in Investing 15:03 Frameworks for Better Financial Decision Making 17:55 Conclusion and Transition to The Soul of Wealth Links Click here to watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6pMFE_-u0YM Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
As the year comes to a close, we're taking a moment to revisit a few of our favorite Retire With Style episodes from 2025. This week, we're replaying one episode that stood out in particular as Wade's favorite conversation of the year, based on both the discussion and the questions it sparked from listeners. We'll be back with brand new episodes after the holiday break. Thanks for listening this year, and we look forward to continuing the conversation in 2026. Repost from Episode 195 In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia talk with William Bengen, pioneer of the 4% rule in retirement planning. They explore the rule's evolution, how inflation and market valuations shape sustainable withdrawals, and Bengen's current recommendations. The discussion highlights the role of asset allocation, the importance of withdrawal strategies, and why ongoing monitoring is essential for a secure retirement. Takeaways William Bengen modernized retirement income planning with the 4% rule. Inflation is a critical factor in determining sustainable withdrawal rates. Market volatility can significantly impact retirement portfolios. A comprehensive withdrawal plan should consider multiple factors. Current recommendations suggest a withdrawal rate of around 5.5%. Asset allocation plays a vital role in retirement planning. Investors should consider a rising equity glide path strategy. Regular monitoring and adjustments to retirement plans are essential. High inflation can permanently elevate withdrawal amounts. The 4% rule is not a one-size-fits-all solution. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Planning 01:14 The Birth of the 4% Rule 03:03 Understanding Withdrawal Rates 09:15 The Impact of Inflation on Withdrawals 12:45 Market Valuation and Its Effects 18:07 Current Withdrawal Rate Recommendations 21:10 Asset Allocation Strategies 24:04 Free Lunches in Investment Strategies 27:34 Key Takeaways from A Richer Retirement 31:15 Future Research Directions Links Get Bill Bengen's New Book – A Richer Retirement Want to dive deeper into the research behind the 4% rule and how retirement income planning has evolved? Bill Bengen's new book, A Richer Retirement, is now available—visit bengenfs.com to learn more and get your copy. Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore how Treasury Inflation Protected Securities, or TIPS, fit into a retirement income plan. They discuss when it may make sense to build a TIPS ladder, the challenge of predicting interest rates, and how TIPS compare with equities as tools for managing inflation risk. The conversation also addresses strategies for creating inflation-adjusted income, the role TIPS can play alongside Social Security, and how a TIPS ladder can support a Social Security delay bridge. Listen now to learn more. Takeaways TIPS are designed to protect against inflation in retirement. Timing is crucial when building a TIPS ladder for retirement income. Interest rates are unpredictable, making TIPS a safer choice now. Equities can provide growth but lack the guaranteed inflation protection of TIPS. Delaying Social Security can enhance retirement income security. Bond funds may not be the best option for retirement income planning. TIPS can help mitigate sequence of returns risk in retirement portfolios. A blend of TIPS and equities can optimize retirement income strategies. Interest rate risk is a significant factor when considering long-term bonds. Effective financial planning involves understanding the role of TIPS in a diversified portfolio. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to TIPS and Retirement Planning 02:44 Building a TIPS Ladder: Timing and Strategy 06:06 Understanding Interest Rates and TIPS 08:53 TIPS vs. Equities: Inflation Protection and Growth 11:46 Creating Inflation-Adjusted Income Streams 15:05 The Role of TIPS in Retirement Income 17:55 Bond Funds vs. TIPS: A Comparative Analysis 21:13 Social Security Delay Bridge and TIPS 24:00 Current TIPS Market and Yield Considerations 27:00 Final Thoughts and Holiday Wishes Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
In this episode of Retire With Style, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau explore core themes in retirement planning, including the 4 percent rule, sequence of returns risk, and how to balance discretionary and essential spending. They discuss how these factors shape retirement income strategies, the role of reliable income sources, and when a rising equity glide path can be beneficial. The conversation highlights why retirees may need a more flexible and adaptive approach rather than relying on traditional rules of thumb. Takeaways The 4% rule is not a constant and can vary based on market conditions. Sequence of return risk is a real concern but may be overstated for average investors. Discretionary spending in retirement should be carefully planned to avoid future regrets. Variable spending strategies can help manage sequence risk effectively. Reliable income sources are crucial for covering essential expenses in retirement. Investors should consider the implications of longevity risk on their withdrawal strategies. The rising equity glide path can be a useful strategy for managing investment risk in retirement. Dividend income should not be the sole focus for retirement income planning. The retirement planning community often relies on outdated paradigms that may not serve current needs. Education on retirement income strategies should start early, even in high school. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Planning Themes 06:11 Understanding the 4% Rule and Withdrawal Strategies 12:03 Exploring Sequence of Return Risk 17:59 Discretionary vs. Essential Spending in Retirement 24:13 The Role of Dividend Income in Retirement 30:06 Rising Equity Glide Path Strategies 36:04 The Shift from Traditional Drawdown Paradigms Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips
In this episode of Retire With Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia talk with Beth Pinsker, author of My Mother's Money, about the practical and emotional realities of financial caregiving and estate settlement. They discuss why clear documentation matters, how probate works, and where family disputes over inheritance often begin. The conversation also covers the roles of wills, trusts, and beneficiary designations, along with the emotional weight that comes with managing a loved one's affairs. Beth shares personal insights that highlight the value of proactive planning and open communication to help families avoid conflict and ensure a smoother transition of assets. Takeaways 30% of people have any sort of documents in place for estate planning. Family disputes often arise over inheritance and asset distribution. Blended families require careful planning to avoid conflicts. Trusts can provide better protection for all parties involved. Beneficiary designations are crucial to avoid probate complications. Wills serve as power of attorney after death, but trusts offer more control. Proper estate planning can ease the emotional burden on families. Communication about inheritance wishes can prevent family discord. Digital assets should also be included in estate planning. Emotional challenges in settling property can be significant. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Estate Planning and Legacy 01:53 Understanding Estate Planning and Its Importance 06:35 Family Disputes and the Role of Executors 08:58 Common Sources of Family Disagreements 13:39 Wills vs. Trusts: Key Differences Explained 20:33 The Importance of Beneficiary Designations 27:52 Navigating Property Settlements and Emotional Challenges 34:16 Final Thoughts on Financial Caregiving and Legacy Planning Links Find links to order Beth Pinkser's book, “My Mother's Money,” at www.bethpinsker.com Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips
In this episode, The Annuity Man and Wade Pfau discuss: Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA) framework Wade's different viewpoint on retirement 4% rule of thumb and its limitations The truth about retirement planning strategies Key Takeaways: Understanding one's preferred retirement income strategy via the Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA) framework. It assesses different retirement strategies that align with the retiree's needs and goals, such as total return investing, time segmentation or bucketing, and essential versus discretionary expenses. Go beyond viewing retirement as a mere cessation from work and consider it as attaining fiscal independence to pursue passions and goals without dependency on income from employment. Read Wade Pfau's article on the 4% rule of thumb and its limitations. Additionally, explore the potential benefits of annuities as a tool for sustaining retirement spending over a long retirement. Explore the broader international experience in financial markets and retirement planning to better understand the uncertainties and challenges involved. Consider the impact of low interest rates on bond returns and the need for diversified retirement income strategies. "We need to figure out what retirement strategy works for each individual because what works for one person may not work for another. It's about finding the style that resonates with you." - Wade Pfau Connect with Wade Pfau: Website: retirementresearcher.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wpfau/ Twitter: WadePfau Connect with The Annuity Man: Website: http://theannuityman.com/ Email: Stan@TheAnnuityMan.com Book: Owner's Manuals: https://www.stantheannuityman.com/how-do-annuities-work YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCXKKxvVslbeGAlEc5sra2g Get a Quote Today: https://www.stantheannuityman.com/annuity-calculator!
In this episode, Lance and Paul unpack the viral post from Financial Samurai founder Sam Dogen, who recently admitted he's no longer financially independent after more than a decade in early retirement. Lance and Paul explore what this moment reveals about the FIRE movement, its strengths, blind spots, and the danger of mistaking "passive" for "permanent" income. They discuss the tension between influence and authenticity, the challenge of lifestyle creep, and the difference between financial sufficiency and true independence. Drawing on real-world client insights and expert perspectives, they highlight the importance of flexibility, contentment, and understanding the math behind your own strategy. Whether you're chasing FIRE or simply planning your financial future, this conversation offers a grounded, thoughtful look at how to build wealth that bends without breaking, and how to live freely without letting your finances define you. -- Timestamps: 01:50 – Financial Samurai's FIRE update 03:20 – The $3M net worth and the early retirement backstory 04:10 – Where the missing numbers went 05:40 – Breaking down why passive income isn't always permanent 08:30 – Lifestyle creep, consumption, and breaking your own strategy 12:15 – Influencer advice vs fiduciary financial planning 15:30 – Dr. Wade Pfau's one-word retirement advice: Flexibility 19:20 – Redefining FIRE -- This Material is Intended for General Public Use. By providing this material, we are not undertaking to provide investment advice for any specific individual or situation or to otherwise act in a fiduciary capacity. Please contact one of our financial professionals for guidance and information specific to your individual situation. Sound Financial LLC dba Sound Financial Group is a registered investment adviser. Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and, unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Be sure to first consult with a qualified financial adviser and/or tax professional before implementing any strategy discussed herein. Past performance is not indicative of future performance. Insurance products and services are offered and sold through Sound Financial LLC dba Sound Financial Group and individually licensed and appointed agents in all appropriate jurisdictions. This podcast is meant for general informational purposes and is not to be construed as tax, legal, or investment advice. You should consult a financial professional regarding your individual situation. Guest speakers are not affiliated with Sound Financial LLC dba Sound Financial Group unless otherwise stated, and their opinions are their own. Opinions, estimates, forecasts, and statements of financial market trends are based on current market conditions and are subject to change without notice. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.
In this episode of Retire with Style, hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau are joined by CPA Brett Leyton to discuss the new tax provisions introduced in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The conversation covers essential topics such as federal income tax brackets, standard deductions, and various new below-the-line deductions that can benefit taxpayers, especially seniors. The episode delves into the complexities of tax planning, emphasizing the importance of strategic planning in light of the new legislation. Listeners will gain insights into how these changes can impact their financial planning and tax strategies moving forward. Takeaways Tax planning is crucial for all income levels. The complexity of tax rules requires comprehensive planning. New tax brackets simplify some aspects of tax planning. Standard deductions have significantly increased for 2025. Seniors can benefit from additional below-the-line deductions. Qualified business income deductions are now permanent. New deductions for tips and overtime pay are introduced. Auto loan interest deductions have specific requirements. Charitable contributions can be deducted even if not itemizing. Understanding phase-outs is essential for effective tax planning. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tax Planning and the One Big Beautiful Bill Act 02:54 Understanding Federal Income Tax Brackets 06:11 New Below-the-Line Deductions: Age 65 Plus 09:07 Qualified Business Income and Its Implications 11:51 Exploring Qualified Tips and Overtime Pay Deductions 14:59 Auto Loan Interest Deductions Explained 17:45 Charitable Contributions for Standard Deduction Filers 21:03 State and Local Tax Deductions: Changes and Challenges Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
Welcome to a milestone episode of Retire With Style! In this celebratory 200th installment, Wade and Alex take a break from the usual deep dives into retirement planning to reflect on their journey so far, from a hesitant start to a full-blown podcast and lifestyle brand. They revisit some of the most popular episodes, listener feedback (the good, the bad, and the hilarious), and the evolving purpose behind the podcast. They also share future plans, new content arcs, and maybe even a little pickleball-inspired merch talk. Whether you're a longtime listener or brand new to the show, this episode offers a fun, personal look behind the mic. Takeaways: 200 episodes deep... and still talking: Wade and Alex never expected the show to grow into a pillar of their content strategy, but batching episodes, a sprinkle of consistency, and a lot of community support helped them get here. YouTube is growing fast: While most listeners tune in via audio, the YouTube channel is becoming a hub for retirement planning visuals and deeper engagement. Pickleball paddles and lifestyle branding: Retire With Style is now more than just a podcast — it's a vibe. From merch to community giveaways, the show is embracing its role as the lighter side of serious retirement talk. Top-performing content = tax planning: Episodes focused on Roth conversions, sustainable withdrawal strategies, and RMDs continue to dominate in views and downloads. Most-loved guests: Bill Bengen (with a whopping 83% in the listener poll) and Mary Beth Franklin top the charts. Both brought serious knowledge and fresh perspectives to the show. Feedback is fuel (and comedy): The hosts share some of the most memorable — and brutally honest — listener reviews. Spoiler: Alex laughs too much, Wade doesn't talk enough... and they're fine with that. What's next? Upcoming episodes will feature deep dives into retirement tax law changes, a fresh look at the RISA framework, and possibly another arc on emotional and behavioral aspects of retirement planning. Chapters 0:00: Welcome to Episode 200! A Sitcom-style Celebration 2:00: The Reluctant Start: How the Podcast Was Born 5:00: From Podcast to Lifestyle Brand (Merch + Pickleball Paddles!) 11:00: Why the Laid-back Format Works 14:00: Retire With Style: The Unexpected Centerpiece 17:00: Most Watched Episodes of the Year 20:00: Tax Planning Still Reigns Supreme 25:00: Standout Guest Appearances: Bengen, Franklin & More 35:00: Listener Comments: The Roast of Alex (with Wade's Glee) 44:00: Positive Feedback... Yes, It Exists 47:30: What the Podcast Has Meant to the Hosts 53:00: Poll Results: What Do Listeners Want? 55:00: Merch Giveaway Winners Announced 58:00: What's Coming in the Next 200 Episodes Links Free Retirement Researcher Webinar – Happening This Week! Don't miss this special opportunity to join Wade Pfau for a free live webinar: "Getting Started Now: Crucial Steps to Take When Retiring" You'll learn how to avoid common pitfalls, make smarter decisions with Social Security, taxes, and investments, and get clarity on what really matters as you transition into retirement. Choose the date that works best for you: Wednesday, October 15th Thursday, October 16th Spots are limited, so be sure to register now at retirewithstyle.com/podcast The Retire With Style Merch Store Is Live! You asked (probably), and we delivered! The official Retire With Style merch store is now open for business! Check out the gear featured in this episode and grab your own swag at retirewithstyle.com/shop. From mugs to mindset, we've got what every stylish retiree needs.
In part one of their conversation with Dan Haylett, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore the human side of retirement planning. They emphasize that financial planning is only part of the equation and discuss the emotional and psychological challenges retirees face. Dan introduces the five pillars of a thriving retirement: purpose, identity, relationships, structure, and well-being. The discussion highlights how finding new sources of meaning and connection after leaving a career is essential for a fulfilling retirement. Takeaways Retirement is about more than financial numbers—it's deeply human. Many retirees struggle with a loss of purpose and identity. The five pillars of a thriving retirement are purpose, identity, relationships, structure, and well-being. Money provides the freedom to pursue interests and purpose. Retirement often brings major shifts in identity and relationships. Building new social connections is essential for fulfillment. Emotional and psychological planning is as important as financial planning. Discussing potential challenges early helps ease the transition. Retirement affects not just individuals but also family and friends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Planning 01:10 The Human Side of Retirement 05:09 Day 182: The Reality of Retirement 08:07 The Five Pillars of a Thriving Retirement 11:06 Finding Purpose in Retirement 15:11 Identity Crisis in Retirement 20:16 The Impact of Work Relationships 28:18 Facilitating Purpose in Retirement 31:52 Navigating Life's Challenges in Retirement 34:07 The Importance of Open Conversations Links Are you an Advisor? — Ready to take your prospect and client conversations to the next level? Join Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia for a free webinar, “How to Close Prospects & Increase Wallet Share.” You'll see how the RISA framework streamlines meetings, builds trust faster, and creates a scalable process for long-term growth Two live sessions available: October 8 or 9, from 1:00–2:30 PM ET Visit risaprofile.com/podcast to register now.
In this conversation, Wade Pfau, Alex Murguia and Bill Bengen discuss various aspects of retirement planning, focusing on risk management, asset allocation, and the implications of market conditions on withdrawal rates. Bengen shares insights on adjusting the traditional 4% rule based on current market valuations and inflation, emphasizing the importance of a diversified portfolio and the role of annuities. The discussion also covers the significance of sequence of returns risk and the potential benefits of rising equity glide paths in retirement strategies. Takeaways A 65% stock allocation is recommended for retirees. Risk management involves adjusting asset allocations based on market conditions. The first 10 years of retirement are crucial for long-term success. Diversification is key to mitigating risks in retirement portfolios. Annuities can play a beneficial role in retirement income planning. Market valuations should influence withdrawal rate strategies. Rising equity glide paths may help manage sequence of returns risk. Monte Carlo simulations can provide insights but have limitations. The 4% rule may need adjustments based on current economic conditions. Retirement planning should consider both historical data and future projections. Chapters 00:00 Replacing Micro Caps in Portfolios 00:25 Risk Management and Asset Allocation 01:32 The Role of Third-Party Advice in Portfolio Management 02:50 Navigating Market Swings and Timing Investments 03:41 Inflation and Asset Allocation Strategies 05:27 International vs. Domestic Equity Allocation 07:04 Historical vs. Projected Data in Retirement Planning 12:18 Understanding Sequence of Returns Risk 14:18 Adjusting Withdrawal Rates Based on Market Conditions 15:45 Exploring Rising Equity Glide Paths 23:29 Finding the Right Equity Allocation for Retirement 27:29 Adjusting Withdrawal Rates for Inflation and Market Valuations Links Get Bill Bengen's New Book – A Richer Retirement Want to dive deeper into the research behind the 4% rule and how retirement income planning has evolved? Bill Bengen's new book, A Richer Retirement, is now available—visit bengenfs.com to learn more and get your copy.
In this live Q&A session, Wade Pfau, Alex Murguia, and Bill Bengen discuss the intricacies of safe withdrawal rates in retirement, focusing on the relevance of the 4% rule, the impact of inflation, and the importance of investment strategies. They explore various topics including the significance of account types, the risks associated with stock picking, and the necessity of adjusting withdrawal rates based on market conditions and personal circumstances. The conversation emphasizes the need for a tailored approach to retirement planning, considering factors like tax efficiency and rebalancing strategies. Takeaways Inflation is a significant risk in retirement planning. The 4% rule is not a fixed rule and can vary. Longer planning horizons require lower withdrawal rates. Account types affect the net amount available for withdrawal. Stock picking can be risky and is not recommended for most. Market conditions can influence safe withdrawal rates. Adjusting withdrawal rates in response to inflation is crucial. Understanding current vs. synthetic withdrawal rates is important. Annual reviews of withdrawal plans can help manage risks. Tax efficiency should be considered in withdrawal strategies. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Safe Withdrawal Rates 05:30 Understanding Account Types and Withdrawals 09:25 Small Caps and Future Performance 15:10 Annual Review of Withdrawal Plans 19:36 Immediate Actions in High Inflation 21:22 Customizing Withdrawal Strategies 22:55 Tax Considerations in Withdrawals 23:44 Withdrawal Strategies from a Multi-Fund Portfolio 26:45 Replacing Micro Caps in Portfolios Links Get Bill Bengen's New Book – A Richer Retirement Want to dive deeper into the research behind the 4% rule and how retirement income planning has evolved? Bill Bengen's new book, A Richer Retirement, is now available—visit bengenfs.com to learn more and get your copy.
Hans and Robby are back again this week with a brand new episode! This week, they discuss retirement income planning. Don't forget to get your copy of “The Complete Cardinal Guide to Planning for and Living in Retirement” on Amazon or on CardinalGuide.com for free! You can contact Hans and Cardinal by emailing hans@cardinalguide.com or calling 919-535-8261. Learn more at CardinalGuide.com. Find us on YouTube: Cardinal Advisors.
In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia talk with William Bengen, pioneer of the 4% rule in retirement planning. They explore the rule's evolution, how inflation and market valuations shape sustainable withdrawals, and Bengen's current recommendations. The discussion highlights the role of asset allocation, the importance of withdrawal strategies, and why ongoing monitoring is essential for a secure retirement. Takeaways William Bengen modernized retirement income planning with the 4% rule. Inflation is a critical factor in determining sustainable withdrawal rates. Market volatility can significantly impact retirement portfolios. A comprehensive withdrawal plan should consider multiple factors. Current recommendations suggest a withdrawal rate of around 5.5%. Asset allocation plays a vital role in retirement planning. Investors should consider a rising equity glide path strategy. Regular monitoring and adjustments to retirement plans are essential. High inflation can permanently elevate withdrawal amounts. The 4% rule is not a one-size-fits-all solution. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Planning 01:14 The Birth of the 4% Rule 03:03 Understanding Withdrawal Rates 09:15 The Impact of Inflation on Withdrawals 12:45 Market Valuation and Its Effects 18:07 Current Withdrawal Rate Recommendations 21:10 Asset Allocation Strategies 24:04 Free Lunches in Investment Strategies 27:34 Key Takeaways from A Richer Retirement 31:15 Future Research Directions Links Join Us for RWS Live! with Bill Bengen! We're going live on Thursday, September 11th at 1:00 PM ET on the Retire With Style YouTube channel! You'll have the chance to ask Bill Bengen—creator of the 4% rule—your retirement questions live in the chat. Search “Retire With Style” on YouTube, or click this link to join us directly: https://retirewithstyle.com/rws-youtube-live Don't forget to subscribe so you get notified when we go live!
In this conversation, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau explore strategies for retirement planning, including hedging against inflation, using break-even analysis in Social Security decisions, and evaluating annuities for retirement income. They also cover the implications of Roth conversions and the reverse equity glide path strategy for managing investments. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding how different financial tools contribute to a comprehensive retirement plan. Takeaways Hedging against inflation can be approached through TIPS or equities, each with distinct risk profiles. TIPS provide a contractually protected hedge against inflation, while equities may offer higher long-term growth. Break-even analysis for social security is often misleading and can lead to poor decision-making. Delaying social security benefits can provide inflation-adjusted lifetime income, which is crucial for retirees. Annuities can be a useful tool for ensuring reliable income, but their lack of inflation protection must be considered. Paying taxes for Roth conversions from an IRA is acceptable if no other funds are available. The present value of social security benefits should be considered as part of a retiree's bond-like income. The reverse equity glide path strategy can help manage sequence risk in retirement by gradually increasing equity exposure. Understanding the implications of social security estimates is essential for accurate retirement planning. Investment strategies should align with individual risk tolerance and retirement income needs. Chapters 00:00 Market Valuations and Investment Strategies 00:00 Inflation Hedging: TIPS vs. Equities 04:23 The Break-Even Analysis of Social Security 09:54 Annuities and Inflation Protection 14:01 Roth Conversions and Tax Strategies 20:01 Social Security Strategies for Couples 26:58 Retirement Income Challenges and Strategies Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips
In this conversation, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia discuss retirement planning topics including market downturns, buffer assets, demographic trends, and emerging products like tontines and buffered ETFs. They highlight how historical market performance shapes future expectations and emphasize the role of strategic asset allocation in retirement income planning. Takeaways Market downturns can last longer than five years, impacting retirement planning. Buffer assets can help retirees weather market downturns without selling at a loss. Demographic trends may influence market performance and interest rates in the future. Modern tontines could provide innovative solutions for retirement income. Combining safety for essential expenses with discretionary spending can optimize retirement income. Historical returns should not be the sole basis for future market assumptions. Buffered ETFs may serve as effective tools for risk diversification in high market valuation environments. Understanding the liquidity and terms of financial products is crucial for effective retirement planning. Technological advances may reshape traditional financial products like tontines. A diversified portfolio can help manage risks associated with market fluctuations. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Technical Setup 03:58 Market Downturns and Retirement Planning 12:59 Buffer Assets in Retirement 19:09 Tontines and Modern Financial Solutions 23:06 Combining Safety and Growth in Retirement Income 29:07 Buffered ETFs and Risk Diversification 33:31 Retirement Income Perspectives 34:06 Market Valuations and Investment Strategies Links Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We've launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there's something you've been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it! The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/ This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean's free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
In this episode of Retire with Style, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau dive into key retirement planning topics, including sequence risk, the 4% rule, withdrawal strategies, and bond yields. They highlight the importance of a comprehensive financial plan that accounts for asset allocation, tax considerations- such as those related to TIPS and annuities- and the role of dynamic, risk-based guardrails. The discussion underscores how retirement income strategies must adapt over time to meet changing needs. Takeaways Sequence risk is a critical factor in retirement planning. The 4% rule may not be applicable in all scenarios. Bond yields significantly impact sustainable withdrawal rates. Fixed percentage withdrawal strategies can mitigate sequence risk. Dynamic risk-based guardrails offer a flexible approach to spending. Financial planning is essential for effective retirement income management. TIPS are less tax-efficient than other bonds and should be placed in tax-advantaged accounts. Asset allocation should be tailored to individual risk tolerance and retirement goals. The traditional 100 minus age rule for asset allocation is a simplification. Retirement strategies should adapt as circumstances change. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Conference Insights 02:11 Exploring Sequence Risk and Spending Strategies 03:35 Understanding the 4% Rule and Bond Yields 10:19 Fixed Percentage Withdrawal Strategies 14:06 Dynamic Risk-Based Guardrails for Spending 20:06 The Role of Financial Planning in Retirement 27:18 Tax Implications of TIPS and Asset Location 29:56 Evaluating Stock-Bond Allocation Strategies Links Join Our Next Live Q&A Session! We're hosting our next Retire With Style YouTube Live Q&A on Monday, August 25th at 2:00 PM ET. Wade and Alex will be answering your retirement planning questions live! ✅ Submit your question in advance at retirewithstyle.com ✅ Or join us live and ask your question in the chat Come be part of the conversation- your questions often inspire future episodes!
Wealth Formula Network, our online mastermind group, is where we dive into the financial questions that keep us up at night, and one debate that keeps coming up is whether to pay off your mortgage. It's a complex question, but let's unpack the math and the emotion so you can decide for yourself. First, think of your mortgage as a lever: with just 20% down, you control 100% of your home's value. On a $500,000 property, that means your $100,000 down payment magnifies the impact of appreciation. If home values rise 4% in a year, your equity grows by $20,000—an effective 20% return on your original $100K. Had you paid the full $500,000 up front, you'd still make the same $20,000—but that's only a 4% return on investment. Next, consider opportunity cost. Every extra dollar you funnel into your mortgage is a dollar you can't deploy elsewhere—whether it's a diversified stock portfolio, a private deal, or even another rental property. Historically, a balanced investment mix has returned 10% annually, comfortably outpacing most mortgage rates and turning “trapped” home equity into “working” capital. Here's something else you might not have considered: your mortgage can actually serve as asset protection. Creditors (or an overzealous bank) are far less likely to tap a property that still carries a lien. By keeping a mortgage in place, you make your home less attractive as collateral and shield your equity in other holdings. So, when you run the numbers, the case for holding onto lower cost debt and investing the difference is compelling. But, math isn't everything. There's intangible value in the day you write “0.00” next to your mortgage balance: no monthly housing payment, no looming due dates, and a deep sense of security—especially as you head toward retirement. Bottom line—there is no single correct answer. Know the pros and cons, weigh your financial goals against your emotional needs, and choose the path that aligns with both your head and your heart. Make that decision thoughtfully, and you'll sleep better either way. Speaking of mortgages, have you ever wondered what reverse mortgages are all about? Those late-night commercials often make them seem like a ways to rip-off seniors. Is there something really useful there? Well, I invited an expert onto the show to teach us all about them and was pleasantly surprised. Reverse mortgages can be a smart tool for homeowners nearing retirement and something you might consider for yourself someday even if you've got other money. Curious to learn more? Tune in to this week's episode of Wealth Formula and get the full story.