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The podcast makes its fourth visit to Washington. UIAAAConnection #253 – Scott Nordi, CMAA, former Director of Athletics – Lakes High School, is now available. Scott, a Tacoma native and Mt. Tahoma High School graduate, played football for his father, who also served as the school's AD. After earning a degree in athletic training from the University of Washington and later a teaching certificate, he spent nearly two decades as an athletic director at two schools. Scott shares insights from his work with WSSAAA and the NIAAA Board, including writing LTC 718 on dealing with tragedyand launching it in Austin. He pays tribute to Washington legends Tim Graham, Dave Tikker, Jim Piccollo and Dave Lutes, and advises: get involved, seek mentors, and mentor others to pay it forward. This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify, Stitcher, and YouTube.
Please join us in welcoming one of our newest CMAA team members, Udokamma Ebulu! Udokamma (or Udo) is one of CMAA's Staff Accountants – but that's not his only interest. He's truly and man of many talents and he joins us in this episode to chat about his background and passions and what he is most looking forward to doing with CMAA.
Oure Great Friend Rob Seymour is back with another Toolbox EXTRA! Rob shares 3 KEY principles of helping coaches become Great and stay Great! Check out this Toolbox EXTRA on The Educational AD Podcast!
In this episode of the Construction Leaders Podcast, hosts Nick Soto and Carly Trout of CMAA sit down with Bryan Vanlenten and Steve Warhoe of Arcadis to unpack insights from Arcadis' 15th Annual Construction Disputes Report. The discussion explores how dispute values are rising even as resolution times shrink, and what that means for today's construction landscape. The guests break down the most common causes—like contract errors, compliance lapses, and lingering labor and supply chain challenges—while sharing how technology such as AI and BIM is reshaping project management and dispute resolution. The conversation underscores the power of communication, contract clarity, and proactive risk assessment in preventing costly conflicts. This episode is sponsored by IHG Business Edge. The Construction Leaders Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.
Dr. Mark Rerick is a long time AD and Coach - along with being one of the Founding Members of The OFF DUTY ADs Podcast! Mark is also a leader in Athletic and Sports Leadership and today he shares his journey along with some perspective and recommendations for all of us! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
The podcast is making another visit to Utah. UIAAA Connection #252 – Everett Kelepolo, CMAA, Executive Director – UIAAA, is now available. Everett, one of a veryfew two-time guests on the podcast opens by highlighting the productive NEDC Summer Summit in Asheville, North Carolina. Everett, Executive Director of the UIAAA for the past sixteen months, shares insights from attending stateconferences in Arizona, Nevada, and Hawaii. He highlights key UIAAA developments, including new board members, a mentoring cohort, a membership officer, and the launch of the UIAAA Professional Development Academy. Everettemphasizes the value of professional growth through national and state conferences, reflecting on experiences from the last three national gatherings and encouraging all athletic directors to join the upcoming UIAAA state conference in St. George this April. This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify,Stitcher, and YouTube.
Our Great Friend and longtime AD Kaleb Stoppel is back with another great segment focusing on Mental Health for ADs. Kaleb shares his journey and speaks to knowing and working toward our "Legacy" as ADs, as Partners, and as Parents. THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
This week on WEDNESDAY WISDOM we visit with 2 of our Favorite Guests who share the latest NIL Happenings in Oklahoma! Emily Barkley and Stephanie Blackwell are both CMAAs and both serve at Union High School in Oklahoma. You'll want to take notes on this one - THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
We're BACK with another K12 Sport Tech Vendor SPOTLIGHT on The Educational AD Podcast, Brett Kopf, co-founder of Omella and our good friend Colin Fegeley, CMAA and the AD at Green Level H.S. in North Carolina share how the platform works and why you should consider it for your school!
John Wiley, CMAA and Alisha Gold of The Overlake School join RIch Hardt of HELMET TRACKER to share how the platform has been a true "Game Changer" for them. John and Alisha share how they use Helmet Tracker and Rich shares how it all began and how YOU can start using it! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
The podcast is making its first visit to Alabama. UIAAA Connection #249 – Dan Norton, CMAA, Former Director of Athletics – Auburn City Schools, is now available. Dangrew up in Auburn, Alabama, playing a wide range of sports throughout his youth. After graduating from Auburn University, he dedicated 25 years to education as a cross-country coach, shaping countless student-athletes. With astrong passion for supporting and promoting athletic directors in Alabama, he now serves as the state's professional development coordinator and contributesnationally as a member of the LTC 721 faculty. Dan's advice emphasizes keeping balance in life, learning to delegate responsibilities effectively, and ensuring administrators fully understand the vital role athletic directors play in strengthening schools and communities.
In this episode of the Construction Leaders Podcast, hosts Nick Soto and Carly Trout of CMAA sit down with Shannon McElveen, COO of AIA Contract Documents, to explore why standardized contracts are essential to successful projects. Shannon highlights how well-crafted agreements promote efficiency, strengthen collaboration, reduce disputes, and even support sustainability goals. She also offers a behind-the-scenes look at how AIA updates its contracts to reflect evolving industry practices and legal standards. The conversation wraps up with practical tips for project leaders on why keeping contracts current and consistent is key to smooth project delivery. This episode is sponsored by STV. The Construction Leaders Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.
Our great friend Dr. David Kelley, CMAA is the Director of the University of Cincinnati's Online Master of Science in Sport Management and today he shares a little of his journey and an exciting announcement for a great new Resource for ADs, Coaches, and Leaders!This is TECH TUESDAY on The Educational AD Podcast!
The podcast is making its second visit to North Carolina. UIAAA Connection #247 – Deran Coe, CMAA, Director of Athletics – Wake County School System, is now available. Deran grew up in Western Pennsylvania in an athleticfamily, guided by a father who coached. He competed in many sports before attending Clarion University, where his leadership path continued to develop. Now serving as district athletic director, he oversees 26 high schools and 36middle schools. Deran chairs LTC 709 for the NIAAA, and coordinates LTI efforts for North Carolina. He offers a unique perspective on failure, describing it as the “first attempt in learning.” His advice: get involved at the state level, find a trusted mentor, and avoid carrying tough decisions too heavily. This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify,Stitcher, and YouTube.
Da"Mon Perry, CMAA was on our second season of the Podcast and now he's BACK with an Update along with some more Best Practices! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
The podcast is making another visit to Indiana. UIAAA Connection #246 – Phil Rison, CMAA, Executive Director – NIAAA, is now available. Phil, the first three-time guest on the podcast opens by highlighting the productive summerNIAAA Board meeting and the continued development of the 6th NIAAA Strategic Plan. He reflects on his experiences at various Section Meetings and shares exciting updates about UIAAA membership growth. Mississippi joined as thelatest dual membership state, contributing to a total of 16,593 members. Phil notes that 29 states reached record numbers, 37 exceeded 70% membership, and 27 hit or surpassed 100%. Certification totals from January to June 2025 also broke previous records. He recaps conferences in Nashville, Orlando, and Austin, encourages attendance at the upcoming Tampa event, and previews future conferences in Phoenix, the 50th in Kansas City, Indianapolis, and San Antonio. He invites members to tour the expanded NIAAA office in Indianapolis. This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify, Stitcher, and YouTube.
Bob Beron is the AD at Cesar Rodney High School and this week he shares HOW he joined the K12 Sports Tech AD Think Tank and WHY You should check it out! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast! THANKS for Listening!
Eric Sholtis is a CMAA and a former Podcast Guest - Ep #368 and the 3rd Edition of the AD Toolbox - and he's back with some great tips on a TOOLBOX Extra segment! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
Each summer, hospitality students have the opportunity to intern at some of the most impressive clubs around the country. We wanted to hear what that experience was like, so we invited Alexa Esquivel, a CMAA student member and intern at Houston Country Club, to the podcast to share more about her experience, what she learned, and her advice for future interns. We talked a lot about having courage and being brave enough to try new things, even when it's outside of your comfort zone.
In this episode, hosts Nick Soto, Carly Trout, and Evan Hendershot from CMAA are joined by Daphne Bryant, executive director of the ACEC Research Institute, and Dr. Keith Molenaar, of the University of Colorado Boulder, to unpack the growing momentum behind Progressive Design-Build (PDB). Drawing from the ACEC report "Progressive Design-Build: Practice, Perceptions, and Potential," the conversation highlights how PDB fosters transparency, collaboration, and stronger outcomes compared to traditional delivery methods. The discussion also explores what's driving adoption across sectors, how risk is more effectively managed, and the qualities that enable lasting owner–design builder partnerships. This episode is sponsored by HNTB. The Construction Leaders Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.
The podcast makes another visit to Ohio. UIAAA Connection #243 – Trey Newberry, CMAA, Director of Athletics – NewRichmond High School, is now available. Trey grew up in Cincinnati, staying active through a wide range ofyouth sports. He credits Big Rich Barton as a key mentor who shaped his approach to leadership. Now focused on giving back, Trey believes in sharing knowledge freely, stating that information exists to be disseminated, not hoarded. His advice includes avoiding email before bedtime, seeking dailyimprovement, and finding a trusted mentor. Trey emphasizes the importance of having an outlet beyond work—his personal escape comes through music, which helps him recharge and maintain balance in the demanding role of an athletic director. Please Listen, Learn, and Share! You can subscribe to UIAAA TV on YouTube! This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify, Stitcher, and YouTube.
AD Insider, in collaboration with the NIAAA and Human Kinetics, is proud to present an exclusive interview with Gary Stevens, CMAA. Gary spent almost 11 years as an Athletic Administrator at Bonny Eagle High School (Standish, ME), then 17 years as Athletic Administrator at Thornton Academy (Saco, ME), and then as Interim Athletic Director for a year at Saint Joseph's College (Standish, ME).In this special feature, Todd shares insights from his chapter on "Event Management" in the newly released NIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration - 2nd Edition.Key Takeaways:Effective event management requires planning, collaboration, and safety focus.First impressions at facilities set the tone for athlete/fan experiences.Crowd management strategies improve overall event success.Technology tools (like electronic ticketing/drones) play a vital role.Continuous learning and reflection help ADs adapt.----------------------------------------------------...Inside the BookNIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration - 2nd EditionEbook - Click HerePaperback - Click HereThe National Interscholastic Athletic Administrators Association (NIAAA) strives to preserve, enhance, and promote education-based athletics through the professional development of athletic administrators. The NIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration, Second Edition, is the organization's primary text to further that mission.Designed for current and aspiring administrators, the text addresses the role and responsibilities of an administrator as well as the skills essential for managing an athletic program that provides quality sport opportunities for student-athletes. The second edition features many new contributors, all experienced professionals who bring fresh and diverse perspectives to the issues affecting today's administrators.Packed with advice, examples, and tools, this guide equips you to excel in the complex, demanding, and rewarding role of athletic administrator.Support the show
Rob Seymour is back with another installment on his series of The Stages of an AD! Rob is a longtime AD in Indiana and a leader on the National Stage and today he shares some more Best Practices on The Educational AD Podcast!
Justin is joined by NIAAA Executive Director Phil Rison, CMAA for the first time on the pod! Together, they go over the NIAAA 6th Strategic Plan finalization, 2024-2025 membership numbers, and NIAAA U Cohort updates! Plus, a new legal services form was approved by the Board of Directors for members to use as a resource. Follow us on: Bluesky || Twitter || Facebook || Instagram || LinkedIn Music Track: Stadium Rock by Pufino Source: freetouse.com/music Copyright Free Background Music
The podcast is making its third visit to Oklahoma. UIAAA Connection #241 – Emily Barkley, CMAA, Director of Athletics – Union High School, is now available. Emily grew up in Tulsa, just a few miles from her current workplace. A three-sport athlete in high school, she reflects on the impact of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, an event that shaped her perspective during her teenage years. Her first job involved working at Mazzio's Pizza, owned by her father. Emily balances a demanding schedule alongside her husband, a division II basketball coach, and emphasizes the importance of having an understanding spouse. She highlights the legacy of the OIAAA and advises future ADs to wait a few years before taking on the role full-time and to fully separate work and home life. Please Listen, Learn, and Share! You can subscribe to UIAAA TV on YouTube! This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify,
AD Insider, in collaboration with the NIAAA and Human Kinetics, is proud to present an exclusive interview with Todd Olson, CMAA, Director of Student Activities for the Fargo Public School District (ND). Todd spent 14 years as a teacher and basketball coach and also served as the NIAAA President in 2019.In this special feature, Todd shares insights from his chapter on "Time and Life Management" in the newly released NIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration - 2nd Edition.Key Takeaways:How to categorize your tasks: "important," "urgent," and "not urgent"Using a time log to discover hidden patterns and productivity leaksThe power of saying "no" and protecting your personal timeStrategies for scheduling time with your familyWhy self-care is NOT a luxury, but a necessity----------------------------------------------------...Inside the BookNIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration - 2nd EditionEbook - Click HerePaperback - Click HereThe National Interscholastic Athletic Administrators Association (NIAAA) strives to preserve, enhance, and promote education-based athletics through the professional development of athletic administrators. The NIAAA's Guide to Interscholastic Athletic Administration, Second Edition, is the organization's primary text to further that mission.Designed for current and aspiring administrators, the text addresses the role and responsibilities of an administrator as well as the skills essential for managing an athletic program that provides quality sport opportunities for student-athletes. The second edition features many new contributors, all experienced professionals who bring fresh and diverse perspectives to the issues affecting today's administrators.Packed with advice, examples, and tools, this guide equips you to excel in the complex, demanding, and rewarding role of athletic administrator.Support the showSupport the show
Bob Hartman has had an incredible career as a Coach and as an Athletic Director and even though he's retiring after 23 Years at Whitehall H.S. he's still staying "in the game." Bob is also a member of the K12 Sports Tech AD Think Tank and this week he shares his perspective - both as an AD and as a "Vendor" repping for Digital Scoreboards. THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
San Diego Country Club, established in 1897, is the only private club in Southern San Diego County. Originally located near Balboa Park, it moved to its current Chula Vista site in 1920, where architect William Watson designed the region's first all-grass 18-hole course. Known for its rich history and championship pedigree, SDCC has hosted the U.S. Women's Open and U.S. Women's Amateur, and will host the U.S. Senior Women's Open in 2025. On this episode of The Wednesday Match Play Podcast, brought to you by Eden Mill St Andrews, Charles shares the story of his journey to San Diego Country Club, reflecting on his unique background as a former political campaign manager. He dives into his path with the CMAA, culminating in his achievement of becoming a Certified Club Manager. Charles also reminisces about his favorite Business Management Institute, discusses the impact mentors have had on his career, and reveals his leadership style and experiences living in San Diego. We take a closer look at how culture shapes the day-to-day experiences and long-term success of a club. This was a fantastic discussion and an honor having Chuck on the show. Let's tee off.
In this episode, hosts Carly Trout and Evan Hendershot with CMAA sit down with Chuck Ainsworth, Founder and Chief Coaching Officer, and Ed Palpant, Chief Construction Specialist at Epic Rivers Leadership. Together, they explore the significance of having tough conversations in the construction industry, from giving effective feedback to navigating conflict and building trust. Chuck and Ed unpack their down-to-earth approach to leadership development—one that encourages slowing down, asking the right questions, and fostering stronger collaboration across teams. The conversation also touches on generational shifts in the workforce and why emotional intelligence is becoming just as essential as technical skill on today's job sites. This episode is sponsored by Parsons.
It's another TOOLBOX Extra and this one features Dan Comeau, CMAA - a Hall of Fame AD and the Author of The Mentoring Minute. Dan shares some reasons behind WHY you need to cultivate a strong relationship with your Officials Association and with their members! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
Troy Urdahl is the longtime AD at St. Anthony Village High School in Minnesota and the best selling author of Chasing Influence. This week he shares a great message on the importance of Being Purposeful in everything we do. Troy always has a great message and this is another one - THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
This Week on the K12 Sports Tech AD Think Tank is Nate Larsen, CMAA who is the AD for the O'Neil Public School District in Nebraska and today he shares how he got involved and why YOU should too! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
In June, GGA Partners and CMAA released the 2025 Club Leaders Perspective Report, a report that benchmarks operational data and examines current trends across a wide spectrum of private club facilities. On this episode of the podcast, we dive into that report and other research with Michael Gregory from GGA Partners. Access the full report on CMAA Connect: https://connect.cmaa.org/viewdocument/gga-partnerscmaa-club-leaders-per-1?CommunityKey=43e436dc-e513-4cc6-94b0-34a8e734968f&tab=librarydocuments
Jeff Sprenger, CMAA is the Athletic Director at Arkey Kell High School of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg District in North Carolina. He shares a little of his journey along with why YOU should become a member of the K12 Sports Tech AD Think Tank! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
The podcast makes its second visit to Hawaii. UIAAA Connection #236 – Pastor Rob Araki, CMAA, Former Director of Athletics – Hanalani Schools K-12, is now available. PastorRob grew up in Greenville, South Carolina, near Wade Hampton High School, where former NIAAA President Darryl Nance worked. His mother hoped he would attend Bob Jones University, but he found his way to being a pastor by othermeans. He earned a degree in Business Administration. Now serving as the state coordinator in Hawaii, Rob recently co-authored LTC 718, a leadership course focused on navigating tragic events. His advice centers on three key principles: finding a reliable mentor, intentionally scheduling rest tomaintain balance, and prioritizing family care. These practices support strong, compassionate leadership and long-term personal and professional well-being. PleaseListen, Learn, and Share! You can subscribe to UIAAA TV on YouTube! This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify,Stitcher, and YouTube.
Can you say Super Star! Suzanne Vick is not only our all time leader in WW Segments but she's coming off another great year where her school - Curtis HS - is receiving the NIAAA's Quality Program Award! Suzanne shares this and a LOT more on this episode of The Educational AD Podcast!
Our great friend Carl Semler, CMAA is the AD at Lubbock High School and he's back on the Podcast as a contributor to a great new book called The Path for Coaches. The book is a collection of interviews from the very popular, Chip Baker Success Chronicles Podcast and Carl shares a little bit about the book, why it's important, and how you can get a copy.THIS is the Educational AD Podcast!
In this episode of the Construction Leaders Podcast, Carly Trout and Evan Hendershot from CMAA talk with Tim Singleton, PMCM business leader at Jacobs, and Ai Kurokawa, architect and principal at Isgenuity. Together, they explore what it takes to build high-performing teams in the construction industry. The conversation highlights the value of resilience, diversity, and psychological safety in driving successful project outcomes. Drawing from their own professional journeys, the guests share practical insights and strategies for fostering continuous improvement and team excellence in every phase of a project. This episode is sponsored by MindForge. The Construction Leaders Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.
The K12 SportsTech AD THINK TANK goes to Lincoln, Arkansas this week to sit down with Deon Birkes, a CMAA who shares his journey so far. If you're new to the Think Tank, it's a great resource that CONNECTS you directly to vendors - not for a Sales Pitch - but to actually consult with them on how to improve their products! It's FREE to join and you actually get PAID to do the consulting! This is The Educational AD Podcast!
The THINK TANK goes to California where we sit down with Damon Chase, the AD at Helix Charter H.S. just outside of San Diego. Damon shares his own athletic journey along with how he got signed up with the THINK TANK and a lot more! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
Pastor Jeff Cranston is back! And sitting down with Pastor Jason Esposito of Crossway Church (a CMA congregation in Wisconsin) to discuss he heart behind the Christian and Missionary Alliance denomination. Founded by A.B. Simpson in the late 19th century, the CMA began not as a denomination but as a missions movement focused on bringing the gospel to the world. Pastor Jason unpacks the Fourfold Gospel (Jesus as Savior, Sanctifier, Healer, and Coming King) as well as the CMA's global reach, spiritual emphasis, and governance model.
We're diving into the triangle offense of education-based relationships! Our guest Don Baker, CMAA wrote an article in our Summer 2025 IAA titled "The Parent-Coach-Athlete Triangle," detailing how each individual relationship in this triangle is extremely important in their own way. We'll break it all down with Don and he'll give us some examples along the way! Follow us on: Bluesky || Twitter || Facebook || Instagram || LinkedIn Music Track: Stadium Rock by Pufino Source: freetouse.com/music Copyright Free Background Music
Zack Clark is the Athletic Director at Central Decatur in Iowa and he returns to the Podcast to share his journey as a Teacher, Coach, and AD along with some cool Best Practices! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
Our great friend Amy Elliott, the AD at Kentucky Country Day School is back on Wednesday Wisdom! Amy does a great job for her teams and coaches and today she and I have a great talk about inventory, award programs (and banquets!) and even parents! THIS is The Educational AD Podcast!
Our Great Friend, Mahina Hannemann-Gago of Francis Parker School in San Diego is BACK with another segment in our SUPER TUESDAY Series. Mahina is a CMAA and today she shares more Best Practices for ADs and Leaders on The Educational AD Podcast!
Our great friend Albert Weeden, CMAA of Loachapoka H.S. is a Principal AND the AD and he's back on Super Tuesday with another great segment for ADs, Coaches, and Leaders! THIS is Super Tuesday on The Educational AD Podcast!
North Carolina is one of our Favorite States and today we visit with Brian Carver, CMAA who is the AD at Enka H.S. in Ashville. Brian graduated from Enka and now he leads their Athletic Department and he shares his journey plus some Best Practices on The Educational AD Podcast!
In this episode, we're joined by our 2025 Shark Tank competition winners: Molly Passow and Katherine Foerg from Niagara University. Their entry, Schedule Genie, uses Artificial Intelligence to assist in schedule coordination and management. You can view their whole presentation at World Conference (along with the other finalists' presentations) on CMAA's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkor-0fuvM
In this episode, industry veteran Bill Long, PE, LEED AP, and SMPS Fellow, shares his extensive insights on the strategic role of business development (BD) and marketing in AEC. He discusses how technical professionals and marketers can effectively collaborate throughout the client acquisition process, emphasizing the importance of connecting, meeting, and following up with clients to build relationships and establish trust. Bill Long, PE, LEED AP, FSMPS Principal | WRL Consultants Bill is an experienced member of the design and construction community where he has been active for over forty years. During that time, Bill has held multiple positions at both design and construction firms including Principal, Vice President, Project Executive, Director of Business Development, Project Manager, and Project Engineer. An active member of the AEC community, Bill has been a featured speaker at multiple industry presentations and presented at regional and national functions for AIA, ACEC, AGC, CMAA, ASLA, SDA, NFMT, ASC, CSI, ISPE, and SMPS. Bill has authored numerous articles for various building industry publications and was the lead author and researcher for the Fellows Report published by the SMPS Foundation. He also authored a White Paper for the Foundation entitled International Success in the A/E/C World – Benchmarks and Best Practices. Bill is a Fellow in SMPS and a Past-Trustee and Past-President of the SMPS Foundation. Links: https://wrlconsultants.com/ Bill's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamrlong/
Longtime listeners will recognize the name Kaleb Stoppel as a incredible leader with and even MORE Incredible story! Kaleb shares his journey, a life changing incident, and his current story on this episode of The Educational AD Podcast!