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Ian Morgan Cron is a bestselling author, nationally recognised speaker, Enneagram teacher, trained psychotherapist, Dove Award-winning songwriter, and Episcopal priest. His newest book is entitled 'The Fix: How the Twelve Steps Offer a Surprising Path of Transformation for the Well-Adjusted, the Down-and-Out, and Everyone In Between.'I wanted to speak to Ian because I find his experience fascinating in finding the 12 steps to be a great framework for more general discipleship and creating a more welcoming and open atmosphere at Church.Some highlights from this episode include Ian's powerful story of recovering from addiction, why we are all addicts, and a broader way to look at the concepts of sin and salvation.--You can find more of Ian's work at the following links:- https://ianmorgancron.com/thefix- https://www.instagram.com/ianmorgancron/Follow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.
Underneath every addiction is a deeper ache—and a surprising path to healing. Bestselling author, therapist, and Episcopal priest Ian Morgan Cron joins Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen to share insights from his newest book, The Fix: How the Twelve Steps Offer a Surprising Path of Transformation for the Well-Adjusted, the Down-and-Out, and Everyone In Between. Ian invites us to reconsider the Twelve Steps—not just as a recovery tool for addicts, but as a grace-filled path of spiritual awakening for anyone longing for freedom, connection, and intimacy with God. This conversation is for everyone—not just those who identify as alcoholics or addicts. As Ian says, these steps offer healing to people who struggle with all kinds of attachments and compulsions: workaholism, people-pleasing, tech and porn addiction, codependency, control, food, spending, approval, sports betting… the list goes on. Ian points out that most of us are poly-addicted, caught in multiple patterns that disconnect us from God, ourselves, and each other. So this isn't about comparing struggles or measuring severity. It's about asking: Do I want to be free? Do I want to live with more honesty, grace, and surrender? Whether or not you think you “need” the Steps, this conversation is a compassionate, humorous, and deeply spiritual invitation to let go of self-reliance and move toward the healing you were made for. Listen to Part 1 now, and be sure to come back next week for Part 2. In the meantime, you can order Ian's new book here: https://ianmorgancron.com/thefix Please Note: This episode contains some mature language; listener discretion is advised.
Send us a textWords create worlds. From Genesis where God speaks creation into being, to Jesus asking a paralyzed man, "Do you want to be made well?", speech carries the power to transform reality. But what happens when certain topics become unspeakable?In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation that explores how modern society increasingly avoids difficult conversations. Using Jesus' healing story, Bishop Wright reveals how bringing things into speech opens pathways to healing and resurrection. They also discuss more recent examples including the evolution of Malcolm X's speech as his heart expanded, the way Muhammad Ali voiced what many thought but dared not say about Vietnam, and how Pope Francis's humble question "Who am I to judge?" transformed Catholic discourse. At its core lies a powerful truth: authentic speech flows from the heart's abundance. Listen in for the full conversation.Read For Faith, the companion devotional.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
May 23rd, 2025 - With guest host Michael Hichborn, we welcome back Dr. Anthony Stine from Return to Tradition to discuss the Catholic news from the past week, including Pope Leo's first episcopal appointments. Plus: a disturbing new report from the Lepanto Institute. Includes the full Aftershow conversation. TheStationOfTheCross.com/ACT
Most people have either struggled with an addiction or know someone who has. So how does one overcome addiction? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson invite bestselling author, psychotherapist, Enneagram teacher, and Episcopal priest Ian Morgan Cron to bring insight and empathy to this important topic. References and rescources Addiction definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addiction National Institute on Drug Abuse data: https://nida.nih.gov/about-nida/legislative-activities/budget-information/fiscal-year-2024-budget-information-congressional-justification-national-institute-drug-abuse/ic-fact-sheet-2024 https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2023/12/reported-drug-use-among-adolescents-continued-to-hold-below-pre-pandemic-levels-in-2023 Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarksson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Ian Cron: https://ianmorgancron.com/
The mark of the beast. Signs and portents. A whole dang book about the "apocalypse" at the end of the Bible.What on EARTH do we do with Revelation? Is it a literal guidebook for surviving hell? Is it a wacky political cartoon we've overblown? Or is it ... something more? (Spoiler alert: it is much more. It is a book about the end of the world - but that's not what you might think it means). Join us with the fantastic Rev. Brian Fox, longtime friend of both of us and friend of the pod, as we do a deep and wide dive into this book and what good news it has for us as we face our own end times fears.MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST:Brian Fox is an Episcopal priest and the rector of St. Paul's Episcopal Church & Montessori School in San Antonio, TX. A graduate of Sarah Lawrence College, Princeton Theological Seminary, and the Seminary of the Southwest, Brian was real-life friends with Laura and Lizzie (and attended both of their ordinations!) before they became internet friends. You can follow his church on Instagram (@stpauls-satx), and read some of his writing at Earth & Altar (https://earthandaltarmag.com/posts?author=5e703169cdb56336186f3add)If you want to read more about Revelation, Brian commends Revelation and the End of All Things by Craig Koester and Picturing the Apocalypse by Natasha and Anthony O'Hear.+++Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project. SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcastThere's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763+++Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.comOur Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/++++MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/++++More about Father Lizzie:BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/RevLizzie.comhttps://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzieJubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org ++++More about Mother Laura:https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peachesSt. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA++++Theme music:"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!
I preach about teachers, students, and remembering that we are loved. The text is John 13:31-35.
The Franciscan Way: A Conversation with the Reverend Dr. Amy Slaughter In this episode, Jon and Lauren host Reverend Dr. Amy Slaughter, who shares her journey and experiences as a priest in the Episcopal Church and a novice in the Anglican Third Order of the Society of St. Francis. Amy discusses the impact of Franciscan spirituality, the merging of two Episcopal congregations to form St. Francis Episcopal Parish and Community Center, and the importance of community building and conflict resolution. She emphasizes the significance of joy, spirituality, and connection in fostering a thriving, diverse parish that also engages with the local Spanish-speaking community. The discussion highlights how these practices not only deepen her personal faith but also strengthen her leadership and sense of community at St. Francis.00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome00:33 Discovering the Anglican Third Order04:31 The Franciscan Influence09:15 Community Engagement and Outreach18:29 Challenges and Surprises in Ministry21:42 Final Thoughts and AdviceSt. Francis Episcopal Church & Community Center website: https://stfrancismd.org/Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/stfrancismdAudio version of this episode is available at podcast platforms linked to https://listening-for-clues.captivate.fm/listenThe Good News! podcast series is part of the ListeningforClues portfolio. Catch us at https://listeningforclues.com/#St. Francis Episcopal Church and Community Center#EDOM #podcast #deacons #Good News! #listeningforclues.comAbout the Rev. Dr. Amy Slaughter:Amy has over 25 years experience in teaching, organizing and leadership development in faith communities, schools and non-profits. Building relationships and equipping people to come together to act on issues that matter to their communities is a key driver in all she does. Amy is an Episcopal priest and currently serves as Rector of St. Francis Episcopal Parish & Community Center in Timonium, Maryland.© 2025 Listening for Clues
High School Senior Caitlin Belingon reflects on her time at St. Paul’s on Youth Sunday, May 18, 2025.
High School Senior Adam Springfield reflects on his time at St. Paul’s on Youth Sunday, May 18, 2025.
Send us a textGod does some of God's best work in the darkness! These painful periods hold unexpected creative potential—a perspective shared by both Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in his 1964 Nobel Peace Prize speech and Jesus in his final hours with his disciples. Dr. King spoke during a time of profound national division. Yet he saw beyond immediate chaos to "a genuine civilization struggling to be born." Similarly, Jesus, facing betrayal and death, used that moment to wash his disciples' feet and establish a new commandment of love that would define his followers for centuries. Drawing comparisons between Dr. King's words from and Jesus' commandment in John 13, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation on how turmoil itself can become the raw material for transformation. What current turmoil in your life might contain creative possibility? Listen in fo the full conversation.Read For Faith, the companion devotional.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
The new American pope is here, Trump is fast-tracking white South African refugees, the Sean “Diddy” Combs trial has begun, and Erin and Alyssa are here to break it down. They also do a deep dive into wellness influencer Casey Means, who might just be the next U.S. surgeon general. They wrap up with a conversation about Karoline Leavitt's super mom status and Adidas' new down syndrome accessible shoe program.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.“She Was Tearful About It”: The Nuances of Casey Means's Medical Exit and Antiestablishment Origins (Vanity Fair 5/9)Casey Means: influencer, RFK Jr favorite – and Trump's pick for surgeon general (The Guardian 5/11)How a post #MeToo law opened the floodgates for allegations against Sean 'Diddy' Combs (NPR 5/7)The trial of Sean Combs: What you need to know (NPR 5/12) Quakers march against Trump's crackdown on immigrants, carrying on a long tradition (LA Times 5/11)Episcopal Church says it won't help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status in US (AP News 5/12)Pope Leo XIV calls for Gaza ceasefire in first Sunday message (Al Jazeera 5/11)Pope calls for journalists to be released from prison (BBC 5/12)
Sorry for the publishing delay! And yes, we know it says Tuesday on the intro, etc. It was a holiday weekend and things have been busy. But here we are with a new show and a WONDERFUL conversation with Episcopal priest and author, Reverend Joseph Yoo.Joseph has grown his online platform over the years on an authenticity and decency that feels so refreshing amidst so many spiritual and religious leaders taking advantage of people or sharing a message absent of love. It's also refreshing that he's not seeking to be a "content creator" but rather just trying to share insights and thoughts with folks in order to encourage them or to help himself work things out by saying them out loud and seeing what others think.During our conversation we cover:His thoughts on the Star Wars prequelsHis love of professional wrestlingHis childhood goal of becoming a season ticket holder for a local teamThe spiritual journey that lead him to becoming an Episcopal priest and planting a church in a denomination that he was new toWhy doubt is an essential part of the faithful lifeHow seminary helped him become affirmingAnd more!Shoutouts:The Pitt (show)Tattoos on the Heart by Gregory BoyleDo You Still Talk to Grandma? by Brit BarronFreaky TalesFollow JosephBlogWhen the Saints Go Flying InInstagramTikTokFollow UsInstagramThreadsPhilip's LetterboxdShare Your Questions/Suggestions/Feedback With Us:Email: thesubstancepod@gmail.comDM on InstagramSupport Us: Support the show with an individual donation on CashApp to $TheSubstancePod or become a monthly Patreon supporter at patreon.com/TheSubstancePod
What if God never meant for you to live in fear, shame, or self-hatred?In this powerful conversation, I'm joined by Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail — Episcopal priest, creator, and author ofGod Didn't Make Us to Hate Us: 40 Devotions to Liberate Your Faith from Fear and Reconnect with Joy. We dive deep into unlearning fear-based faith, healing from toxic theology, and reclaiming the radical joy of being fully loved by God. Whether you're deep in deconstruction or just beginning to ask hard questions, this episode offers hope, healing, and a reminder that curiosity, nuance, and belonging were always part of the story.We explore:The deep roots of fear-based faith — and how it shapes our sense of selfWhy reclaiming joy is a radical act of spiritual liberationHealing from church hurt without losing your connection to GodThe intersections of faith, feminism, queerness, and justiceNavigating deconstruction with gentleness, curiosity, and hopeEmbracing the truth that you were created from love, for love — not fearBuilding a spirituality rooted in joy, abundance, and radical belongingIf this conversation stirred something in your heart, I'd be honored if you'd subscribe, leave a review, or share it with a friend who might need to hear it. Your support helps us spread messages of hope, healing, and spiritual liberation to more souls who are ready to reclaim the joy they were made for.Meet Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail:Rev. Lizzie is an Episcopal priest, author, and joyful disruptor of toxic theology. She's the founding pastor of Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, Texas—a vibrant community rooted in ancient worship and radical hospitality. With degrees from Mount Holyoke College, Duke Divinity School, and Seminary of the Southwest, Lizzie weaves together faith, feminism, and queer theology. Her debut book is a love letter to the disillusioned, deconstructing, and deeply hopeful.Connect with Lizzie:Follow Rev. Lizzie on InstagramVisit her websiteListen to the And Also With You PodcastLearn more about Jubilee Episcopal ChurchOrder God Didn't Make Us to Hate UsConnect with Emily:Website: www.EmilyReuschel.comInstagram: @emilyreuschelFacebook: Emily ReuschelLinkedIn: Emily ReuschelJoin my Book Insiders List: Sign up here!Resources & Links:Sign up here to get the inside scoop on my book writing journeyInterested in sponsoring Gather in Growth? Apply...
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Immigration Policy and Constitutional IssuesDescription: Explores immigration as a state vs. federal issue, citing the Constitution, Supreme Court decisions (Chilling the Freeman, 1875), and policies under Biden and Trump. Critiques lack of due process, natural rights, and federal overreach, including the Alien Enemies Act and Article IV, Section 4 violations. References specific cases like Abril Garcia, Miss Ozturk, and Ross Baraka.Timecodes: 00:00:00 - 00:00:54, 00:05:28 - 00:11:35, 00:17:47 - 00:28:41.Abrego Garcia Case and State Secrets PrivilegeDescription: Focuses on the case of Abril Garcia, allegedly an MS-13 member deported without due process or evidence. Critiques the Trump administration's use of the State Secrets Privilege to justify actions, comparing it to mafia tactics and highlighting transparency issues.Timecodes: 00:11:35 - 00:17:47.Ukraine Biolabs and Geopolitical CritiqueDescription: Discusses claims of U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine since 2005, involving Dick Lugar and Barack Obama. Critiques U.S. involvement in the 2014 Ukraine coup and dealings with neo-Nazis, framing it as part of broader geopolitical overreach.Timecode: 00:31:40 - 00:36:54.Epic City Muslim Development in TexasDescription: Discussion of Texas Governor Greg Abbott halting a 402-acre Muslim community (Epic City) near Dallas, citing concerns about violence and cultural incompatibility based on European experiences (e.g., riots in France, England). Claims Islam promotes violence and dominance, with viewer comments opposing the project and warning of second-generation radicalization. Texas launched criminal investigations, supported by the host.Timecodes: 01:08:10 - 01:29:32.Measles Outbreaks and Vaccine CritiqueDescription: Discussion of Texas and New Mexico leading in measles cases despite high MMR vaccination rates, questioning vaccine efficacy and suggesting vaccines cause measles via gain-of-function research. Claims the MMR vaccine's live virus can be shed, citing studies from 1995 and 2012. Argues sanitation, not vaccines, reduced diseases, supported by viewer comments from “Syrian Girl” and “Dustin de Helm.”Timecodes: 01:21:51 - 01:33:09.Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Media BacklashDescription: Discussion of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Dr. Phil appearance advocating for parental research on vaccines, met with backlash from Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, and Newsweek. Critique of media's appeal to authority, particularly Monica Hesse's article equating vaccine-skeptical parents with conspiracy theorists, sparking host outrage.Timecode: 01:36:02 - 01:40:40.South African Genocide and Refugee PolicyDescription: Discussion of Trump's support for white South African farmers facing genocide, with the U.S. accepting them as refugees. Details on atrocities (e.g., “rape gates” in homes), media silence, and South African government inaction, supported by Breitbart reports and a pastor's testimony. Includes infrastructure decline, skepticism of Trump's motives, and praise for fostering dialogue, with Rubio's comments and viewer anecdotes reinforcing the narrative.Timecodes: 02:06:28 - 02:25:36.Episcopal Church Quits Refugee ProgramDescription: Report on an Episcopal group withdrawing from a taxpayer-funded refugee program due to the inclusion of white South African refugees, criticized as racially motivated and contrary to Christian values. Accusation that churches have adopted Marxist identity politics, prioritizing race over gospel principles, with outrage at their refusal to help persecuted farmers.Timecode: 02:19:49 - 02:23:19.Pediatrician's Lawsuit Against CDCDescription: Discussion of Dr. Samira Cardenas suing the CDC for requiring Covid vaccines in the Vaccines for Children program, losing her practice due to Medicaid contract termination after refusing to administer them. Critique of financial pressures on doctors to push vaccines despite safety concerns, with details on her ethical stance and data showing vaccine injuries.Timecode: 02:36:50 - 02:41:24.Public Schools as Harmful InfluenceDescription: Story of a mother and daughter (Penny) detailing public schools' role in social transitioning, leading to anxiety, self-harm, and suicidal thoughts. Teachers encouraged transgender identity, hiding it from parents, with recovery through homeschooling and faith. Schools labeled “seminaries of Satan,” with a “Common Man” narrative critiquing elite control and calling for truth-sharing.Follow the show on Kick and watch live every weekday 9:00am EST – 12:00pm EST https://kick.com/davidknightshow Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHT Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
What happens when you stand at the crossroads where the sacred meets the secular, where your identity refuses to fit into neat binaries, and where faith seeks understanding in the midst of doubt? In this deeply personal conversation, Episcopal priest and pioneering womanist theologian Kelly Brown Douglas returns to the podcast to explore theology as a lived experience, not abstract speculation. We dive into her powerful concept of "crossroads theology" – that stable, definite space where the blues singer performs both pain and praise, where Black and Episcopalian identity refuse to be bifurcated, and where God meets us in our full complexity. Kelly unpacks how the dangerous narratives of respectability and white supremacy create false binaries that diminish our humanity, and how Jesus's own crossroads moment challenges our comfortable Christianity. From her nightly prayers on her knees to calling the names of deported families, from finding God in resistance movements to wrestling with faith after Trayvon Martin's death, Kelly shows us what it means to do theology from "the complicated and sometimes contradictory spaces of our living." She reminds us that Christianity has a crucifixion at its center – and it's high time we act like it. Plus, we celebrate Kelly's upcoming appearance at Theology Beer Camp 2025, where she'll be bringing this transformative theological vision to 600 nerdy friends ready to do theology while day-drinking in a sanctuary. Trust me, you don't want to miss this conversation about finding resurrection hope in our Gethsemane moments. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Theology Beer Camp is a unique three-day conference that brings together of theology nerds and craft beer for a blend of intellectual engagement, community building, and fun. This event features a lineup of well-known podcasters, scholars, and theology enthusiasts who come together to "nerd out" on theological topics while enjoying loads of fun activities. Guests this year include John Dominic Crossan, Kelly Brown Douglas, Philip Clayton, Stacey Floyd-Thomas, Jeffery Pugh, Juan Floyd-Thomas, Andy Root, Grace Ji-Sun Kim, Noreen Herzfeld, Reggie Williams, Casper ter Kuile, and more! Get info and tickets here. Rev. Canon Kelly Brown Douglas is the Canon Theologian at the Cathedral. In 2017, she was named Dean of Episcopal Divinity School at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, and in 2019, she was appointed to the Bill and Judith Moyers Chair in Theology at Union. You can listen to her previous visit to the podcast here: Resurrection Hope & A Future Where Black Lives Matter Upcoming Online Class: Rediscovering the Spirit: Hand-Raisers, Han, & the Holy Ghost "Rediscovering the Spirit: Hand-Raisers, Han, and the Holy Ghost" is an open-online course exploring the dynamic, often overlooked third person of the Trinity. Based on Grace Ji-Sun Kim's groundbreaking work on the Holy Spirit (pneumatology), this class takes participants on a journey through biblical foundations, historical developments, diverse cultural perspectives, and practical applications of Spirit theology. As always, this class is donation-based, including 0. To get class info and sign up, head over here. _____________________ Hang with 40+ Scholars & Podcasts and 600 people at Theology Beer Camp 2025 (Oct. 16-18) in St. Paul, MN. This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 80,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 45 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Theology Beer Camp | St. Paul, MN | October 16-18, 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Immigration Policy and Constitutional IssuesDescription: Explores immigration as a state vs. federal issue, citing the Constitution, Supreme Court decisions (Chilling the Freeman, 1875), and policies under Biden and Trump. Critiques lack of due process, natural rights, and federal overreach, including the Alien Enemies Act and Article IV, Section 4 violations. References specific cases like Abril Garcia, Miss Ozturk, and Ross Baraka.Timecodes: 00:00:00 - 00:28:41.Abrego Garcia Case and State Secrets PrivilegeDescription: Focuses on the case of Abril Garcia, allegedly an MS-13 member deported without due process or evidence. Critiques the Trump administration's use of the State Secrets Privilege to justify actions, comparing it to mafia tactics and highlighting transparency issues.Timecodes: 00:11:35 - 00:17:47.Ukraine Biolabs and Geopolitical CritiqueDescription: Discusses claims of U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine since 2005, involving Dick Lugar and Barack Obama. Critiques U.S. involvement in the 2014 Ukraine coup and dealings with neo-Nazis, framing it as part of broader geopolitical overreach.Timecode: 00:31:40 - 00:36:54.Epic City Muslim Development in TexasDescription: Discussion of Texas Governor Greg Abbott halting a 402-acre Muslim community (Epic City) near Dallas, citing concerns about violence and cultural incompatibility based on European experiences (e.g., riots in France, England). Claims Islam promotes violence and dominance, with viewer comments opposing the project and warning of second-generation radicalization. Texas launched criminal investigations, supported by the host.Timecodes: 01:08:10 - 01:29:32.Measles Outbreaks and Vaccine CritiqueDescription: Discussion of Texas and New Mexico leading in measles cases despite high MMR vaccination rates, questioning vaccine efficacy and suggesting vaccines cause measles via gain-of-function research. Claims the MMR vaccine's live virus can be shed, citing studies from 1995 and 2012. Argues sanitation, not vaccines, reduced diseases, supported by viewer comments from “Syrian Girl” and “Dustin de Helm.”Timecodes: 01:21:51 - 01:33:09.Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Media BacklashDescription: Discussion of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Dr. Phil appearance advocating for parental research on vaccines, met with backlash from Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, and Newsweek. Critique of media's appeal to authority, particularly Monica Hesse's article equating vaccine-skeptical parents with conspiracy theorists, sparking host outrage.Timecode: 01:36:02 - 01:40:40.South African Genocide and Refugee PolicyDescription: Discussion of Trump's support for white South African farmers facing genocide, with the U.S. accepting them as refugees. Details on atrocities (e.g., “rape gates” in homes), media silence, and South African government inaction, supported by Breitbart reports and a pastor's testimony. Includes infrastructure decline, skepticism of Trump's motives, and praise for fostering dialogue, with Rubio's comments and viewer anecdotes reinforcing the narrative.Timecodes: 02:06:28 - 02:25:36.Episcopal Church Quits Refugee ProgramDescription: Report on an Episcopal group withdrawing from a taxpayer-funded refugee program due to the inclusion of white South African refugees, criticized as racially motivated and contrary to Christian values. Accusation that churches have adopted Marxist identity politics, prioritizing race over gospel principles, with outrage at their refusal to help persecuted farmers.Timecode: 02:19:49 - 02:23:19.Pediatrician's Lawsuit Against CDCDescription: Discussion of Dr. Samira Cardenas suing the CDC for requiring Covid vaccines in the Vaccines for Children program, losing her practice due to Medicaid contract termination after refusing to administer them. Critique of financial pressures on doctors to push vaccines despite safety concerns, with details on her ethical stance and data showing vaccine injuries.Timecode: 02:36:50 - 02:41:24.Public Schools as Harmful InfluenceDescription: Story of a mother and daughter (Penny) detailing public schools' role in social transitioning, leading to anxiety, self-harm, and suicidal thoughts. Teachers encouraged transgender identity, hiding it from parents, with recovery through homeschooling and faith. Schools labeled “seminaries of Satan,” with a “Common Man” narrative critiquing elite control and calling for truth-sharing.Follow the show on Kick and watch live every weekday 9:00am EST – 12:00pm EST https://kick.com/davidknightshow Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHT Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-real-david-knight-show--5282736/support.
In this electric episode of Badlands Daily, CannCon and Ashe in America unpack a tidal wave of political, economic, and cultural firestorms. Leading the charge is Trump's controversial refugee policy shift, granting sanctuary to persecuted white South African farmers. The hosts dive into the MSM and NGO meltdowns over the decision, with Al Sharpton and Episcopal charities losing their minds over the idea of refugee status being extended to anyone who isn't part of the globalist agenda. Next up: the weekend's chaos at a New Jersey ICE facility, where leftist clergy and NGO activists formed a human blockade, allegedly preventing emergency vehicles from entering. Ashe and CannCon expose the hypocrisy of selective enforcement and draw scathing comparisons to J6 prosecutions. The show also breaks down the staggering April spike in U.S. customs revenue, $16.3 billion, proving Trump's tariff policies are working. They then dissect the debut of the “Big Beautiful Bill,” with wins like work requirements for Medicaid, tax-free tips, and MAGA savings accounts for kids, but warn it lacks meaningful spending cuts. Senator Ron Johnson's critique becomes a jumping-off point for a broader discussion on runaway federal debt, the failure of Congress, and Mike Johnson's disappointing leadership. With a mix of legal insight, biting sarcasm, and offbeat humor, including commentary on zombie shows, AI security concerns over Qatar's luxury jet gift, and Justice Sotomayor's outrageous ABA comments, this episode is a full-spectrum takedown of regime narratives and a celebration of the political awakening in real time.
Hour 4 The prices of gas. Marine gas, especially. Is no one truly above the law? The Episcopal charities refuse to help white South African refugees. Biden's decline. The truth comes out. Audio from WGIG-AM and FM in Brunswick, GA
Our show opens news of lower than expected inflation numbers. Guess the Left and the vast majority of the economic “experts” were wrong about the tariffs. We then move to Jake Tapper of CNN and grifting for his book about how everyone in the White House lied to the press about Joe Biden's health issues. This is not about bringing the knives out for Joe Biden. This is about a Legacy/mainstream media desperate to look like they are fearlessly reporting the “truth” so they can go on bashing Trump with their newfound virtue. It's all a PsyOp. To remind you of their lies, I play some bites of Jake Tapper related to Russiagate. Then we play bites from Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT), Rep. Daniel Goldman (D-NY), Karine Jean-Pierre and President Joe Biden (D) about needing more power to close the border. On top of that, we have more news about how the Biden Labor Department cooked the books by over-inflating the new jobs numbers in 2024. Now that white farmers are being slaughtered in South Africa, President Trump has granted those who flee, refugee status. This prompted the Episcopal church to cancel it's mission to help resettle foreign refugees in the United States. Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX), the Democrat's Village Idiot, has a comment about educated people. Looks like the DEI rules inside the DNC may cause the ousting of DNC Vice Chair David Hogg. And, we close with one of the most important comments in today's speech by Donald Trump given in Saudi Arabia regarding the state of Iran. Please take a moment to rate and review the show and then share the episode on social media. You can find me on Facebook, X, Instagram, GETTR, TRUTH Social and YouTube by searching for The Alan Sanders Show. And, consider becoming a sponsor of the show by visiting my Patreon page!!
Listen to Bishop Doyle's sermon, "Good Shepherd Sunday" held at Christ Church Cathedral, Houston, TX. More at www.texasbishop.com
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The Rev. Javier Almendárez-Bautista preaches on the fourth Sunday of Easter.
Send us a textBeing in relationship with God is accompanied by suspense. Even in the bible, John 10: 22-30, Jesus is asked "Are you the Messiah? How long will you keep us in suspense?" Faith in God meets in the tensions of certainty and the suspense of the unknown. In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation about the suspense that accompanies faith. Bishop Wright offers a perspective that transforms how we view life's uncertainties. "The suspense is not if there's God, the suspense is how will God choose to be God and on what timeline." This distinction invites us to shift from demanding answers to embracing relationship. Listen in for the full conversation.Read For Faith, the companion devotional.We have developed a survey to better understand how Bishop Wright's For People Podcast can continue to inspire, engage, and serve our listeners. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey here.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
Silvia Alayo, secretaria Ejecutiva de la Comisión Episcopal de Acción Social, conversa con Glatzer Tuesta en No Hay Derecho de Ideeleradio. No Hay Derecho en vivo de lunes a viernes, desde las 7 a. m., por el YouTube y Facebook de Ideeleradio.
409. The Woman Who Spoke Truth To Trump: Bishop Budde Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, during President Trump's inauguration service, delivered a powerful sermon on unity and directly appealed to the President for mercy on behalf of vulnerable communities. Today, she joins us to discuss her courageous stand and explore how we can embody both strength and compassion in our own lives. -How to carry your despair and cynicism instead of handing it to others -Exposing the lies of partisanship and how to fight for dignity for all -The “sin of empathy”? The chilling rise of this idea in Christian Nationalist circles -Why not knowing what to do in this political moment is part of the preparation Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde serves as spiritual leader for the Episcopal congregations and schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties that comprise the Episcopal Diocese of Washington. The first woman elected to this position, she also serves as the chair of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools. She is an advocate and organizer in support of justice, including racial equity, gun violence prevention, immigration reform, the full inclusion of LGBTQ+ persons, and the care of creation. She is the author of three books; the most recent, How We Learn to Be Brave: Decisive Moments in Life and Faith, was published in 2023. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Join the Everyday Miracles podcast with Julie Hedenborg as she welcomes Father Matt Marino from St. Augustine, Florida. In this powerful episode, Father Matt shares his incredible testimony of survival after a brutal and unexpected stabbing. He details the miraculous events and divine intervention that saved his life, his journey of faith, and the profound sense of peace and forgiveness that he felt throughout this harrowing experience. Father Matt's story is a testament to the power of community, the miraculous nature of faith, and the importance of forgiveness. Stay tuned for an inspiring prayer for those struggling with fear and unforgiveness. 00:00 Preview 02:00 Father Matt's Background 06:05 The Attack before breakfast 16:13 The Aftermath and Medical Miracle 27:54 Forgiveness and Reflection 30:42 Startling discovery of demonic voices heard by attacker 32:40 Returning to Normalcy 36:21 Final and Prayer Ephesians 4:32 "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." How to reach Father Matt: https://www.trinitysta.org/ About Father Matt: An adolescent atheist turned Episcopal priest, Matt likes to drink coffee, talk about Jesus, and will shamelessly invite himself aboard your sailboat. Matt has been rector of Trinity since April Fools day, 2019. Also on Matt's resume: Basketball coach, history teacher, recovery planner, Young Life Area Director, summer camp program architect, youth/young adult director for the Diocese of Arizona, seminary instructor, church planter, consultant, and ballboy for the Phoenix Suns. Each of those experiences has left him more in wonder at the grandeur of the One who made us and calls us home through the cross and empty tomb. Matt and Kari have two grown children, Gabrielle and Luke, who love God and his church. Matt blogs at thegospelside.com
What if seven simple words could change the way we connect with others on the path to peace? In this powerful episode of HIListically Speaking, Hilary Russo sits down with James Twyman, a New York Times Best-Selling Author (The Moses Code), spiritual teacher, and the “Peace Troubadour” to explore how one profound phrase. “I Don't Know, Maybe, I Love You.” Now the title of his latest book, this open-hearted reply sparked a movement towards healing our global village and even the most divided, intimate relationships. From confronting polarization in today's world to embracing curiosity over certainty, James, who is also an Episcopal Priest and founder of the Namaste Village spiritual community in Mexico, shares personal stories, spiritual insights, and his mission to De-Polarize a culture stuck in conflict. Together, we discuss the importance of compassion, the courage to engage with opposing perspectives, and the magic that happens when we prioritize love over being right. Tune in and discover how peace begins with one brave, honest conversation at a time. CONNECT WITH JAMES TWYMAN https://www.de-polarize.com www.instagram.com/jimmyjamestwyman/ www.facebook.com/JamesTwymanAuthor/ GRAB THE LATEST BOOK!I Don't Know Maybe, I Love Youhttps://amzn.to/3RQax16 (Amazon) ADD TO YOUR LIBRARY The Moses Code (James' #1 NYT Best Seller) https://amzn.to/3Ssl1E0 (Amazon) RAISE YOUR VOICE AND UPGRADE YOUR MIC! Hilary is Using Shure MV7+ Mic https://amzn.to/3ZBaXNm (Amazon) As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases JOIN ME ON SUBSTACK - THE BRAIN CANDY BLUEPRINT! https://substack.com/@hilaryrusso GET BRAIN CANDY & WAYS TO BE KIND TO YOUR MIND DELIVERED TO YOUR INBOX https://www.hilaryrusso.com/braincandy DISCOVER HAVENING TECHNIQUES TRAININGS & WORKSHOPS https://www.hilaryrusso.com/training BOOK HILARY FOR YOUR NEXT EVENT OR ATTEND! https://www.hilaryrusso.com/events CONNECT WITH HILARY https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilaryrusso https://www.instagram.com/hilaryrusso https://www.instagram.com/hilisticallyspeaking https://www.youtube.com/hilaryrusso https://www.hilaryrusso.com/podcast MUSIC by Lipbone Redding https://www.lipbone.com
Liturgical Calendar 101 is in session. In this episode, we break down the seasons of the Episcopal church. We review the history of the liturgical calendar, discuss whether or not it's Biblical, reflect on how it connects us to humanity and to history, and share personal practices that help us engage more with the church seasons. Why do the altar dressings change colors? What is a lectionary? What's so holy about the passage of time? We hope this episode helps you answer these questions and more. Follow us on Instagram: @average.episcopalian Sign up for our monthly Substack newsletter! averageepiscopalian.substack.com More questions? Send us an email: average.episcopalian@gmail.com
One of our greatest tools in understanding ourselves and the world is the concept of both/and. When we can hold two ideas or feelings in tension, we discover whole worlds of understanding and goodness.Author, speaker, and Episcopal-priest-in-training Cara Meredith has been fascinated with this concept for years. After dabbling in some essays about it, she landed on a both/and topic that really spoke to her soul: church camp.Today we celebrate her new book, Church Camp: Bad Skits, Cry Night, and How White Evangelicalism Betrayed a Generation, hot off the presses from Broadleaf. We talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and how we might all be a little bit more faithful to the both/and in our lives.Plus: a little detour about penguins. Get full access to Keep Looking Up at courtneyellis.substack.com/subscribe
The Rev. Javier Almendárez-Bautista preaches on the third Sunday of Easter.
Send us a textWhat do we do with our wounds? When betrayal cuts deep, when painful experiences leave scars, we have control of how we move forward - with God's help. Jesus' post-resurrection appearances challenge our conventional responses to hurt. Jesus, freshly risen from death after being betrayed by his closest followers, doesn't seek distance or retribution. Instead, he passes through locked doors to reconnect with the very people who abandoned him. This radical choice reveals what authentic power looks like: not domination or revenge, but the capacity to remain engaged despite deep wounds.In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation about that first post-resurrection gathering. Bishop Wright unpacks what he calls "God's perpetual Easter pattern" of unlocking, transforming, and redeeming. This divine process takes our wounds seriously without allowing them to become our primary identity. Just as Jesus acknowledged his wounds without making them the focal point, we too can validate our pain while asking the essential question: "Now what?" The answer lies in allowing God to recycle even our most painful experiences into bridges of connection with others. Listen in for the full conversation.Read For Faith, the companion devotional.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
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In 2021, Sister Monica Clare went viral on TikTok. From the account @nunsenseforthepeople, her video about a wild turkey that was menacing the grounds of the convent struck a chord and unexpectedly launched a following more than 200k people eager to learn more about the practical and spiritual lives of contemporary nuns. #NunTok was born, spurring both sincere conversations about prayer and a relentless, tongue-in-cheek campaign for Sister Monica Clare to unveil her skincare routine.Today, Sister Monica Clare is an Episcopal nun and the sister Superior at the Community of St. John the Baptist in Mendham, New Jersey; but as she relates in her forthcoming memoir, A CHANGE OF HABIT: Leaving Behind My Husband, Career, and Everything I Owned to Become a Nun (Crown & Sugar23; April 29, 2025), her path to the spiritual life was long, winding, and entirely relatable.Growing up in a chaotic and impoverished home in Georgia, Claudette Powell's (Sister Monica's lay name) childhood was spent escaping bill collectors and her unreliable father's abuse. As a little girl, she saw Audrey Hepburn in A Nun's Story and thought, that's me. She found herself drawn to the beauty and ritual of the church, wishing that her life could be filled with such orderliness and belonging.Yet for most of her life, Claudette pushed this spiritual calling away. Instead, she poured her energy into her many talents, trying to become someone worthy of the acceptance she longed for deeply: from acting school at NYU, to performing comedy with The Groundlings Sunday Company and a Hollywood career in film advertising, to her marriage. And yet, she never could seem to find someplace she felt she belonged.In the wake of a devastating divorce, Claudette found herself seriously considering a life in the church. After a decade of therapy, discernment, and paying off her debts, Sister Monica Clare finally stood nervously straightening her habit as she walked into an Episcopal convent, preparing to live alongside eleven other sisters who'd taken the same vow of poverty and celibacy.But joining the community was only the first step, thriving in monastic life would be another challenge altogether. Whether it was getting lost in the maze-like convent, speaking at the wrong time, or messing up the intricate rituals in service, Sister Monica Clare couldn't shake the anxiety and imposter syndrome that had dogged her whole life. In fact, she discovered that the learning curve can be extra steep when doing something you love. Yet through faith and patience, Sister Monica began to feel at home at the convent, first clumsily and then more easily, finding family within her fellow sisters and eventually rising to the head role of Sister Superior.Equally funny and inspiring, A CHANGE OF HABIT reveals how much better life can be when we stop trying to prove our worth to ourselves and others, and instead embrace ourselves for who truly are. A meditation on hope and belonging, A CHANGE OF HABIT is a beautiful encapsulation of faith in the modern world and the tangible ways in which we can embrace spirituality and connection in our lives.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.
In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by my friend author, podcaster, and former Episcopalian priest Andrew Petiprin to talk unpack one of the biggest misconceptions about the Catholic Church: that Catholicism is simply another Christian denomination. With aplomb, charity, and with Scripture and the history books in hand, Andrew explains exactly what's wrong with thinking of Catholicism as just another denomination, why that matters, and why it's abundantly clear from history and Scripture that the Catholic Church is unique in a sea of Christian choices.Plus, we unpack the danger of thinking of the Church as an institution, the notion of the "rules" of Catholicism, and so much more. For more from Andrew listen to his complete conversion story way back on Episode 69 of the podcast.You can find Andrew's book, Faith Unboxed at Catholic Answers or any fine bookseller. And make sure to visit the Spe Salvi Institute.Send your feedback to cordialcatholic@gmail.com. Sign up for our newsletter for my reflections on episodes, behind-the-scenes content, and exclusive contests.To watch this and other episodes please visit (and subscribe to!) our YouTube channel.Please consider financially supporting this show! For more information visit the Patreon page. All patrons receive access to exclusive content and if you can give $5/mo or more you'll also be entered into monthly draws for fantastic books hand-picked by me.If you'd like to give a one-time donation to The Cordial Catholic, you can visit the PayPal page.Thank you to those already supporting the show!Theme Music: "Splendor (Intro)" by Former Ruins. Learn more at formerruins.com or listen on Spotify, Apple Music,A very special thanks to our Patreon co-producers who make this show possible: Amanda, Elli and Tom, Fr. Larry, Gina, Heather, James, Jorg, Michelle, Noah, Robert, Shelby, Susanne and Victor, and William.Beyond The BeaconJoin Bishop Kevin Sweeney and Communications Director Jai Agnish of the Diocese of...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showFind and follow The Cordial Catholic on social media:Instagram: @cordialcatholicTwitter: @cordialcatholicYouTube: /thecordialcatholicFacebook: The Cordial CatholicTikTok: @cordialcatholic
261. Edible Theology with Kendall Vanderslice Kendall's Website John 6:35 NIV "Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." **Transcription Below** Kendall Vanderslice says "Yes, before you ask, that is my true name." Kendall is a baker and writer whose best thinking occurs as she works dough between her hands; scribbles down thoughts on pieces of parchment dusted in flour, until she can parse them out later before her keyboard. When she embarked on a career as a pastry chef, she found that her love of bread transformed the ways she read Scripture. Fascinated by God's use of food throughout the arc of the Gospel, she merged her work in the kitchen with academic study of food and theology. As a graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois (BA Anthropology), she began engaging questions of food and faith. Interested in commensality—or, the social dynamics of eating together—she studied food at Boston University (MLA Gastronomy). Her thesis on church meals sparked a range of theological questions, leading her to Duke University where she wrote a thesis on the theology of bread (MTS). In 2018 she was named a James Beard Foundation national scholar for her work on food and religion. She lives in Durham, North Carolina, with her beagle, Strudel, her sourdough starter Bread Astaire, and her brood of hens: Judith Jones and the Three Gourmands. Questions and Topics We Cover: You've studied so much about food and theology . . . are there any favorite lessons or resources that you still think about today? Is there any other science in the bread baking that is fascinating because it also has a richer, deeper spiritual meaning? What's one recipe in the book you're especially excited about? Other Episode Mentioned from The Savvy Sauce: 47 Relationships and Opportunities that Arise from Using Your Gifts with Founder of Neighbor's Table, Sarah Harmeyer Related Episodes on The Savvy Sauce: 15 The Supernatural Power Present While Gathering at the Table with Devi Titus Practical Tips to Eating Dinner Together as a Family with Blogger and Cookbook Co-Author, Rachel Tiemeyer Experiencing Joy, Connection, and Nourishment at the Table with Abby Turner Fresh Take on Hospitality with Jaime Farrell Thank You to Our Sponsor: Dream Seller Travel, Megan Rokey Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** Music: (0:00 – 0:09) Laura Dugger: (0:10 - 1:22) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. Do you love to travel? If so, then let me introduce you to today's sponsor, Dream Seller Travel, a Christian-owned and operated travel agency. Check them out on Facebook or online at DreamSellerTravel.com. We were one of those families who joined in the COVID trend of baking our own bread. And so, I was fascinated even years later when I came across my guest for today, Kendall Vanderslice. She's an author and the founder of Edible Theology. And I've always appreciated different verses being brought to life, even things that we interact with every day, such as salt and yeast. But God has richer meanings for all of these. And so, I can't wait for Kendall to unpack these in our conversation today. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Kendall. Kendall Vanderslice: (1:20 - 1:22) Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here. Laura Dugger: (1:23 - 1:30) Would you mind just starting us off by sharing a bit about your background and what led you to the work that you get to do today? Kendall Vanderslice: (1:31 - 3:46) Sure. So, I have always loved baking. I always, you know, when I was a child, but especially once I was in middle school and high school, I had a lot of anxiety. And so, when I just ever, anytime I needed to work through any sort of scope of emotions, I would always turn to the kitchen. Working with my hands became this way to sort of ground me and help me find calm in the midst of sort of my mind just buzzing. I was also one of five kids. So, it was like after everyone had gone to bed and the kitchen was silent, was the only time there was quiet in my house. And so that was kind of always became the source of calm and grounding for me. And so, then when I graduated high school and was trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life, once again, I turned to the kitchen as a way to try and process what I should do. And long story short, over time, I realized, oh, maybe actually this work of baking is the work that I am called to do. And so, I ended up taking a very circuitous path to get there. I took a gap year after high school. I went to undergrad and studied anthropology in college. And in that time, learned that I could, my love of food and my love of the kitchen, I could examine not just in the practice of cooking, but through an anthropological and historical lens, looking at how food shapes community and shapes culture and how culture shapes the foods that we eat. And so, from there, I went and worked in professional kitchens. But I had all these historical, cultural, theological questions kind of buzzing around at the same time. And, you know, I would go from my work at the bakery on Sunday morning. I would rush from work to church and I would receive communion each week with bread dough still stuck to my arms. And I started to question, what does this bread that I spend my whole morning baking have to do with this bread that I receive at the communion table? And so that just unlocked a whole new path of what I could do with bread and with my baking beyond just in the kitchen and larger understanding how it shapes our awareness of who God is and how God is at work in our lives and in our communities. Laura Dugger: (3:47 - 3:58) Wow, that is incredible. And even today, do you want to share a few of your offerings? Because edible theology was a new concept to me, and it's just fascinating what all you have going on. Kendall Vanderslice: (3:59 - 5:31) Yeah, absolutely. So, my primary program is that I teach a workshop called Bake and Pray. And so, this is a workshop where I teach people how to bake bread as a form of prayer. So, we look at the ways that bread is at play throughout the narrative of Scripture, kind of what it is that God is using, why it is that God is using bread as the storytelling device in the narrative of Scripture, and why Jesus would give us bread at the center of Christian worship. But then at the same time, we're learning how the actual practice of baking bread can be a way to connect with God, to find rest and to understand God's presence with us in a very tangible form. So, with that, I also have a handful of books. Most recently, I released a book called Bake and Pray. It's sort of this workshop in book form. It's a collection of recipes, but also a collection of liturgies, so that you have the tools you need to make your time in the kitchen a time of prayer. I call it a prayer book meets cookbook. But I also have a handful of other resources, a Bible study or a small group study called Worship at the Table, where it's actually helping people gather around the table and understand how God is at work through the table. And I have a podcast that it was a limited run. There are 30 episodes called Kitchen Meditations. They are short meditations to listen to while you cook, while you're in the kitchen. So, you can understand the food that you eat more fully and also understand how your time preparing it can be a time of worship. Laura Dugger: (5:31 - 5:50) I love that. And there's so much to unpack. But let's just start here with all the things that you've studied with food and theology and gone to school for years and put this into practice. Are there any favorite lessons that stand out and are maybe ones that you still think about today? Kendall Vanderslice: (5:51 - 6:57) Well, you know, one of my favorite books that helped shape my understanding of food is a book that was written in the 1960s by an Episcopal priest named Robert Carr-Capin. It's a book called The Supper of the Lamb. This book is just a delightful book to read. I think everybody should read it. Robert Carr-Capin was he was an Episcopal priest, but he was also a food writer and he also was a humor writer. He and his wife wrote a satirical column together. And so, The Supper of the Lamb is kind of the culmination of all three. It is this beautiful reflection on a theology of food in the table, but it is hilarious as well. And so, it is written as instructions to host a dinner party that is all built around preparing lamb for eight people in four different ways. And so, it's reflections on kind of, you know, this revelation, the imagery in the book of Revelation on the marriage supper of the lamb, But then taking that to be a very liberal dinner party that he hosts in his home. And it will forever change the way that you think about food and think about the table and think about how God cares about food. Laura Dugger: (6:58 - 7:13) Wow, that's interesting. And even a piece of that that you had highlighted before is community, that food draws us together in community. Are there any lessons or reflections you have on that topic as well? Kendall Vanderslice: (7:14 - 9:03) Yeah, I mean, so I spend my days traveling the country and visiting churches and eating meals with strangers all the time. This is such a central part of my work. So, my first book was a study of churches that eat together as their primary form of worship. And so, I had the opportunity to research 10 different churches across the country and look at how does this practice of eating together regularly shape their understanding of community, but also shape their understanding of church and shape their understanding of worship. And what I saw in that practice of traveling and eating with all of these churches was that communities that were built around the table, where their primary rhythm of gathering was this practice of eating together and talking together and dialoguing together. It created such resilience within these communities as they faced conflict and tension within them that their commitment to eating together, but then their understanding of these community meals as being intrinsically connected to the communion table, the meal of bread and the cup that they also shared, it shaped their ability to have conversations and wade into hard topics that communities might otherwise try to say, you know, kind of avoid, because what they believed was that, you know, the table that we gather at regularly is a place that can kind of manage and hold on to those tensions. And it's a place where these hard conversations can arise. But also at the end of each of these meals, we remember that we are going to share the bread and the cup together and that God has told us that we have been made one in the body and blood of Christ. And so, we have a responsibility to care for one another, even as we argue and disagree and have a really, you know, dig into these hard conversations. Laura Dugger: (9:04 - 9:58) That is beautiful. And I think of so many things when you say that. I'm in the book of Acts right now, my quiet time. And so, the early churches, they were breaking bread together daily. You see that as part of the impact, the outflow that came from that. And then just, I think, gratitude as you share, because I wasn't a follower of Jesus growing up. Our family went to church. And by the time I was in high school, all of my family were believers, including my siblings. I was the last one. But the church that we went to, we shared a meal together every Sunday. And those relationships are long lasting. Then you hear about what people are actually going through. It's such a natural way to dive deeper into that fellowship. And so, I love that you've traveled around and studied this. And I'm also curious if you've connected with one of my past guests, Sarah Harmeyer with the Neighbors Table. Kendall Vanderslice: (9:59 - 10:03) I am familiar with her work, but I have never actually connected with her. Laura Dugger: (10:04 - 10:09) OK, you two. I'll link her episode in the show notes, but I think you two would have a lot of fun together. Kendall Vanderslice: (10:09 - 10:14) Oh, great. Great, great. I know I've seen some of her tables on. She's the one who builds tables. Is that right? Laura Dugger: (10:14 - 10:15) Yes. Yes. Kendall Vanderslice: (10:15 - 10:19) Yes. OK. I have seen her tables on Instagram, and they look just absolutely beautiful. Laura Dugger: (10:19 - 10:37) I love it. Well, I'd also like to talk about your most recent book, because there's one part where you talk about the sacred language of bread. And I'd love for you just to walk us through some significant scriptures that highlight bread throughout the Bible. Kendall Vanderslice: (10:37 - 19:43) Yeah, absolutely. So, one of the reasons that I love to think of bread in terms of a language itself is because so often we think of our faith as being something that happens predominantly in our minds, that it is the things we believe about God and the words that we say to God. And it becomes this very sort of mental exercise of worshiping God in our heads. And we forget that the rest of our bodies and the rest of our lives are a part of how we know God as well, that we were created in these human bodies with all of these senses. And it's only through these senses that we get to know the world around us. And it's in getting to know this creation around us that we get to know our creator as well. And so when we think of our faith as happening something predominantly in our minds, then when we have these moments where we don't feel like God is present, or we feel like we don't hear from God, or we just don't have the energy to, you know, to read scripture every day, or we feel like we, you know, I'm just like praying and praying and praying, and I've just exhausted the words I have to say. Then it's easy for us to feel like we've been abandoned by God, that we're in this sort of spiritual dark place. But Jesus, he calls himself the word, but, you know, Jesus is the word that was present with God in the beginning. But Jesus also calls himself the bread of life. And Jesus identifies himself as something deeply tangible. And he offers his own body to us in the form of bread at the communion table. And so, Jesus is telling us that Jesus is present with us in this very tangible form, something that we can mix together with our hands, something that we can taste on our tongues, something that we can feel in our bellies as we digest it. That Jesus is telling us, like, I am with you in this deeply tangible way. And if you don't feel my presence, and if you don't, you know, hear what I am telling you, or you don't feel like I am listening to you, know that you can eat this bread and have this very tangible reminder that I have promised to remain present with you and to remain faithful to you. And so, the ways that we see this at work in Scripture, once we understand that, you know, bread is not just a metaphor, that bread is actually something very physical and tangible, a way that God speaks to us, I think it changes the way that we see bread show up in Scripture. That it's not just a handy metaphor that shows up every, all over the place in the Bible, but that Jesus is actually, that God is actually doing something through bread itself. So, the very first place that we see bread appear in Scripture is as early as Genesis 3:19, “It is by the sweat of your brow that you will eat your bread until you return to the ground, for from it you were taken, from dust you come, and to dust you will return.” So, prior to this point in Genesis, we have the creation accounts, we have, you know, that God has created the garden, placed humanity in the garden to tend to this creation, to care for it. And they are intended to, you know, they are nourished by the fruits of these trees, they delight in God by delighting in God's creation. And God gave them just one restriction, which was a restriction on what they could eat. And so, in Genesis 3:19, we know that they have failed to honor this restriction that God has given them. And we are now learning the ramifications of that fall. And one of those ramifications is that the soil is going to sprout forth thistles and thorns. That we will no longer just be nourished by the fruits of the trees, but that we will have to labor in this soil. We will have to labor against a creation that works against us in order to have our nutritional needs met. But at the same time, God offers us this gift, that it's by the sweat of your brow, you will eat your bread. Our bread, you know, doesn't just grow from a tree. The humanity was probably not eating bread in the garden. But in this offering of bread, that it's by the sweat of your brow, you will eat your bread. Humans are being told, yes, we will have to labor in the soil in order to nourish ourselves. But also, we are being invited to participate with God in the transformation of creation into something really delicious as well. So, bread is, at the same time, both this picture of the brokenness of creation and yet also the goodness of God. This blessing, this gift from God in the midst of a broken creation. The production of bread, historically, has required a lot of work. It requires months and months of laboring in the soil to grow wheat, harvest wheat, thresh it, and then grind it into flour. Turn that flour into dough, gather firewood to heat up an oven, and then turn that dough into bread before finally being able to eat it. So, humanity has long known that it is, you know, there is this deep, this incredible amount of labor required to make bread. And yet also, bread contains almost all of the nutrients that humans need in order to survive. We can live off of just bread and water alone for a very, very, very long time. And in fact, many humans throughout most of human history have lived off of just bread and water for a very, very, very long time. So then when we see bread show up in other places in scripture, we see it show up as this picture of God's miraculous provision for God's people. We see it show up as a sign of God's presence with God's people. And we see it as a sign of God's promises to God's people that God will continue this work of restoration until we have this imagery of this renewed creation in the book of Revelation. So, one picture of that is in this provision of manna for the Israelites in the desert. You know, I think oftentimes for us, we read this story and we think the miracle is like, well, I don't know about you, but I've never opened my front door and had bread strewn across my lawn that I could just go out and gather. But we can still picture just walking into a grocery store and having a whole aisle of bread to choose from, right? For us, the miracle seems like it just appears out of nowhere, but it doesn't seem all that crazy to just have a bunch of ready-made bread available to you. But for the Israelites, the work of making bread would have been nine months or more of labor between growing wheat, harvesting it, turning that wheat into flour, flour into dough, dough into bread. That's work that was not possible while they were wandering in the desert. And so, when God is providing this miracle of manna, all they have to do is go out every single morning and gather, and they have to trust day after day after day that God is going to continue to provide. So, then we see a mirror of this in the story of the feeding of the 5,000. Once again, I think the miracle to us oftentimes feels like, you know, well, I've never seen five loaves capable of feeding 5,000 plus people. But still, we can picture a Costco aisle of bread that probably has enough bread to feed 5,000 people. Just the presence of bread enough for that size crowd doesn't seem all that miraculous. But for the crowd who was gathered on the hillside with Jesus, they would have had a much closer awareness of just how much work was required to grow enough, in this case, barley. One of the accounts says that it was barley bread. So, to grow enough barley to make enough bread to feed this crowd. And at the very least, in Mark's account of the gospel, we see a very direct link to work and how much work would be required to feed this crowd. Because in the gospel of Mark, it says that it would take more than half a year's wages to buy enough bread to feed this crowd. So, this distinct connection between labor and hard work in order to feed, to provide the bread for these people. But Jesus circumvents that labor required to either make the bread or buy the bread and just miraculously provides these five loaves to feed 5,000 plus people. So then on the night before his death, Jesus takes, I think, this imagery one step further. It is not just the labor of making bread that Jesus circumvents in his provision of bread for his disciples. He offers bread to his disciples and says, “This is my body that is broken for you.” Jesus is circumventing the very work of defeating the curse of sin and death. He has taken the labor of defeating sin and death onto his own body. And he's offering that body back to his disciples and onto anyone who remembers Him in this meal of bread and the cup. But he's offering to us His body as in the form of bread, as this picture of the labor that Jesus has taken on, the curse that Jesus has taken on so that we can then live in freedom. And so, we're still currently living in this sort of in-between time where we know that Jesus, that Christ has died, that Christ is risen, and we are still awaiting the day when Christ will come again. We're still awaiting this imagery in the book of Revelation where creation is restored. And I believe our relationship to bread will purely be one of delight and joy and freedom. But right now, we do still experience that brokenness of creation in relationship to bread. But also, bread is still a way in which we can know God, in which we can trust God's promises to us in this very tangible form in which we can believe that God is with us, even when we don't feel it. Laura Dugger: (19:43 - 22:17) Let's take a quick break to hear a message from our sponsor. Do you have a bucket list of travel destinations? Or maybe you have a special event coming up like a big anniversary, a honeymoon, or even just that first trip to Europe? If so, you need to call Dream Seller Travel. Dream Seller Travel is located in Central Illinois, but works with clients all across the USA. 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Kendall Vanderslice: (22:18 - 23:20) Yeah. One of the things that I love about salt, I think oftentimes, especially here in America, we have a sort of distorted understanding of the role that salt plays in our food. Oftentimes, we treat table salt. We usually have table salt that you just add onto your food after cooking it. Maybe you add a little bit of salt while cooking, but for the most part, you just sprinkle on table salt after. And it almost is treated as this kind of added flavor. But salt actually should not be this added flavor at the end. Salt should be incorporated into the cooking process because salt opens up our taste receptors on our tongues, and it opens up the flavors in the dish. So, salt actually should not be the predominant flavor that we taste. Salt should be the thing that allows us to taste everything else. And I think when we understand salt in that form, it should reframe our understanding of what it means to be the salt of the earth or to be salt and light in the world. What does it mean that salt is not the thing that itself gets tasted, but salt is the thing that opens up the flavors of everything else around us? Laura Dugger: (23:20 - 23:30) Kendall, can you take that even a step further? What does that practically look like for believers really living as salt of the earth? Kendall Vanderslice: (23:34 - 24:26) I think one of the great joys of the ways that these metaphors at work in Scripture is that we get to continually explore and see what that means for us and where God might be calling us. But I do think that being aware that to be the salt of the earth is to help pull out the best in the communities around us, to pull out the best in the people around us, is just this really beautiful picture of how I think God asks us to work in community. But our job is not necessarily to be the strong presence. Our job is not necessarily to make sure everyone knows that we are present, but instead our job is to identify and build up and pull out the best parts of the people around us in the communities that we are in. Laura Dugger: (24:27 - 24:56) That's so good. I love how you shared that because for me, as you were unpacking it, I was just thinking that we as the salt, when you taste it, you don't want to think, oh, that's salt. You want, like you said, to open it up to others. And so that's our purpose is to reflect and glorify Jesus and to point to him. So, I'm sure there's countless meanings. Will you also do the same thing and share the significance of yeast? Kendall Vanderslice: (24:57 - 29:44) Yeah, sure. So, yeast is, you know, also a fascinating, fascinating thing. And we are only really just beginning to understand sort of the microbial world and the role that it plays in our lives, in our bodies, in our world. And so, it's opening up entirely new understandings of how yeast is at work in scripture. One thing that we have to bear in mind is that the writers of scripture did not actually know what yeast was. We were only able to identify the microbes that are yeast and bacteria in the last 150 years. And so, prior to Louis Pasteur, humans didn't know what yeast was. They only knew the reactions of yeast. You know, you saw if I mix together, you know, this, if I let this flour and water sit, it comes back to life and I can mix that into more flour and water and it can become bread. You know, I can mix it in with a lot of water and a little bit of yeast and some hops and it becomes beer. I can mix it in with grapes and it becomes wine. So, we see the reactions, but don't necessarily know what it is that is responsible for those reactions. So, it is fairly new that we have this, you know, in the scope of human history, it's fairly new that we have this understanding of what are the actual kind of little critters that are involved in this process. And so, I have a really dear friend who she studies theology of the microbiome. So, a lot of her research is all based around, you know, how does this emerging research on yeast and bacteria shape our understanding of what it means to be human? And so then how does that shape the ways we read in scripture, both passages about yeast and also about what it means to be human? And so it is, I think there's just, it's a field that is ripe for exploration and we are only beginning to scratch the surface of all the beautiful imagery that's at play here. But one of the things that I find most fascinating is that leaven or yeast, it is used as a metaphor for two different things in scripture. In one passage, it is used as a metaphor for the kingdom of heaven, the parable of leaven, the kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman mixed into three measures of flour until it leavened the whole batch. But apart from that, yeast is always used as an image of sin, the ways that sin works through community. We have the passage about the leaven of the Pharisees. I believe there are a few others as well. So oftentimes leaven is used as this picture of sin and the ways that sin sort of multiplies and works through communities. But at the same time, it's this picture of the kingdom of God, that it's this little bit of yeast that slowly multiplies and through its multiplication, it transforms the entire community. It seems like a strange sort of tension that why would we use the same thing as a picture of both the kingdom of heaven and a picture of sin? And I think it makes more sense when we understand a sourdough culture. So, a sourdough culture is a culture of bacteria and yeast that is used to leaven bread, to raise bread. So, we all have wild yeast and bacteria living in the air, on the surface of our skin, on the surface of everything around us. This wild yeast and bacteria is what makes the world go round. It's what makes our brains function. It's what allows our bellies to digest food. It is what sort of makes everything work. And there is always this presence of both pathogenic bacteria and also beneficial bacteria. That is true within our bodies. That's true sort of all around us. It's true in the sourdough culture that there is always the presence of pathogenic bacteria, but there is also the beneficial bacteria. And so, to maintain a healthy sourdough starter, you have to feed it regularly. And as long as you feed it regularly and maintain its health, that good bacteria is going to keep the pathogenic bacteria in check. It's when you start to starve that starter that the pathogenic bacteria gets stronger and it overtakes the good bacteria and your sourdough starter goes bad. And so, I think that's a really beautiful way to think about both how the kingdom of God works and also how sin works in our communities. We live in a broken creation. Sin will always be present. But when we are digging ourselves, like when we are staying grounded and rooted in scripture, when we're staying grounded and rooted in church community and worship and prayer, when we are maintaining these healthy communities that are rooted to God, then we're able to help keep that pathogenic bacteria, that sin in check. But it's when we do not that it can start to take over and it can spread through a community just as quickly and easily as the kingdom of God can also spread through a community. Laura Dugger: (29:45 - 29:58) You just have brilliant answers. Is there any other science in the bread baking that is also fascinating to you because it has a richer, deeper spiritual meaning? Kendall Vanderslice: (29:58 - 32:22) One of the things that I love, I oftentimes lead these bread baking workshops for groups of leaders, especially church leaders or faith leaders who are oftentimes having to manage just large groups of people where they're constantly facing internal conflict. I don't think anyone who leads a group of people has managed to bring together the people that never have any kind of disagreement. One of the things that I love about bread is that inherent to the structure of bread is tension. The backbone of bread is this protein called gluten that is made up of two different proteins called gluten and gliadin. Gluten and gliadin have two opposing qualities to them. One likes to stretch and stretch and stretch. It's what's called the elastic quality. One likes to hold its shape, what's called the plastic quality. When these protein strands unravel, they begin to form bonds with one another and they create this network, this protein network. That protein network is what captures the carbon dioxide that the yeast releases and that allows the dough to both grow while also holding its shape. The strength and the structure of our bread is fully reliant on tension between these two opposing qualities, these two opposing needs. In order to build that tension in a way that brings strength to the bread, it has to be constantly balanced with rest. The gluten will let you know when it's starting to get tired. If you don't give it time to rest, then it will just fall apart. It will start to break down on you. This is something that I think so many of our communities really can learn from right now. That tension is good, that our differences, that diversity in our communities is our source of strength. When these differences rub up against one another and they help expand our understanding of the people around us, our differing needs, our differing convictions, our differing desires, our differing hopes, that can be a source of strength in our communities. Also, we need to understand when it's time to step away and take time to rest before leaning into those differences even further. I love that bread then is itself this element that Jesus gives us as the sign of our unity in Christ, because it is this picture of our differences coming together and making us one even in our difference. Laura Dugger: (32:23 - 32:39) All of this from bread, it's just incredible. Then I even think you write about temperature and scoring the bread. Is there anything else? We won't get to cover all of it, but any other scientific findings that have been really exciting? Kendall Vanderslice: (32:40 - 33:33) I think there is so much in bread. I like to say that bread is incredibly simple and infinitely complex. It's made of four basic ingredients, but it can be mixed together in myriad ways. A baker can commit their entire lives to learning about bread, and they will still have more to learn. We'll never be able to cover it all. I think there's room for endless exploration as far as digging into all that bread has to teach us. My hope is that this book, Bake and Pray, helps to start to illuminate some of the ways that we see God teaching us through the many different steps in the bread-baking process. I also hope that others will start to get into this practice of baking, and through the practice of baking, they themselves will be able to start to see some of the beauty that God reveals through bread. Laura Dugger: (33:34 - 34:38) I just wanted to let you know there are now multiple ways to give when you visit thesavvysauce.com. We now have a donation button on our website, and you can find it under the Donate page, which is under the tab entitled Support. Our mailing address is also provided if you would prefer to save us the processing fee and send a check that is tax deductible. Either way, you'll be supporting the work of Savvy Sauce Charities and helping us continue to reach the nations with the good news of Jesus Christ. Make sure you visit thesavvysauce.com today. Thanks for your support. Well, and Kendall, you also have a unique take. You spent years as a ballet dancer, and even with your books, you're just writing about the connection beyond, like you said, just our intellect and our minds to the Lord, but using our whole bodies to glorify God. Can you share some more ways that we can use our bodies to bake and pray and glorify God? Kendall Vanderslice: (34:38 - 39:09) Yeah, so one of the things that I love when I'm first teaching people about this idea of praying with your body, it is ironic. The whole concept of praying with your body is to try and get us out of our minds and into our bodies. But the idea of praying with our body can feel like a very sort of cerebral or like, you know, the sort of thing that doesn't quite make sense. And so, the way that I like to help people first get started is through the practice of a breath prayer. So, a breath prayer is a practice of repeating a line of scripture or poetry with every inhale and every exhale. And so, one of the ones that I love to start with is my soul finds rest in God alone, drawn from the Psalms. And so, as you inhale, you repeat my soul finds rest. And as you exhale in God alone. And so, when I'm guiding others through this bake and pray practice, I have a start by just closing our eyes and I will lead us in this rhythm of breathing and of repeating this line again and again and again. And then from there, I encourage the group to start to mix up their dough while repeating this line with every inhale and exhale. And I think it helps us to see how our breath, our breath itself becomes, you know, these words of scripture so ingrain themselves in our breathing that we then understand our breathing itself as an offering of prayer to God. And then the movements of our bodies through this rhythm of breathing becomes an offering of prayer to God. And then we realize that the words themselves are not even necessary, that we can offer, you know, the movements of mixing bread dough, but also of gardening, of knitting, of cooking, of playing with our children, of raking leaves, that all of these things can be ways to offer our movements to God as prayer and to invite God into this practice with us and to pay attention to how God is present in these practices. So, I do hope that, you know, people will take bake and pray and actually bake with it and learn to bake as a form of prayer. But I also love when I hear from potters or I hear from gardeners or I hear from other people that work with their hands regularly who tell me, I read this and I don't think I'm going to start baking, but it has reshaped my understanding of my own, you know, craft and my own vocation. So, I am excited to hear from others who maybe will take this and say, like, this is how I see this work being a form of prayer. But I first started learning about embodied prayer and practicing it when I got to college. I was in a dance team at my college. I had grown up as a ballerina. I left the ballet world in high school, and it was a really, really hard. My experience was really wonderful in many ways and really hard in many ways. I was in the pre-professional ballet world, which is, you know, very, very rigorous, very mentally draining, very physically demanding. And when I realized that I wasn't going to be able to make it professionally, it was just absolutely devastating. It was like my whole world was wrapped around this. And so, then when I got to college, I was invited to be a part of this dance company. But the dance company was for women who had experienced sort of the ballet world in the way that I had, and who were looking for healing and to understand that our dance could be a form of worship and a form of prayer. And when I first started, I thought that the whole concept was really strange. You know, I was I did not understand. I was so grateful to have this very just affirming community that I was dancing with. It was really it was the first time that I had been, you know, affirmed in my body and affirmed as a dancer and not just, you know, told all the things that were wrong with me. But still, I was like, this is a really strange concept that as we're dancing, we're somehow praying. And it really was something that I had to practice again and again and again to understand and to really feel. And so, if someone is listening to this and thinking like this sounds like a really strange concept, I encourage you to just try it. And it might take a few tries. Maybe try using the liturgies that are in the book to help get you into that practice. And then I hope that as you practice, either praying through baking or through gardening or what have you, that you will just get to experience the ways that God's present with you. And then that will transform your understanding of your craft. Laura Dugger: (39:09 - 39:20) Thanks for sharing that. It's important for us to understand that we are embodied beings. And that points to that awesome truth that God with us, that Jesus was embodied. Kendall Vanderslice: (39:21 - 39:22) Absolutely. Laura Dugger: (39:22 - 39:31) But then, OK, so in your most recent book, Bake and Pray, what's one recipe that you're especially excited about? Kendall Vanderslice: (39:31 - 41:04) You know, we are just emerging from the season of Advent and Christmas, and those are some of my favorite recipes in the book. One that is so delicious, that is it is a Christmas recipe. It is the Moravian sugar cake, but Moravians do eat the sugar cake all year round. So, it is kind of a classical Christmas recipe. But here at the Moravian bakeries here in North Carolina, you can get them all year round. So Moravian baked goods are an early Protestant tradition. They actually were Protestants before the Protestant Reformation, they like to say. And they're a pretty small denomination here in the United States. But they're largely focused in here in North Carolina, where I am, and then a little bit in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. But the Moravian baked goods are known for all of their breads have potato in them. And so, some people, you know, there are other recipes that have like a potato, a potato bread or potato rolls. When you add mashed potato into baked goods, it makes it really, really moist and tender. It holds on to moisture in the baked good much longer than just flour alone. So, the Moravian baked goods all have mashed potato in them. But the Moravian sugar cake is one where it's this very rich potato bread. And then you put it into a pan, and you poke holes in it, sort of like if you were dimpling focaccia. And then you pour butter and cinnamon sugar on top and bake it. And it is like it is a mix between sort of coffee cake and bread. And it is so, so, so delicious. I love it. Laura Dugger: (41:04 - 41:09) And there is also just a cute little story in there with the history. Kendall Vanderslice: (41:09 - 41:28) Oh, yes, absolutely. It is, you know, there's this lore that apparently when men were looking for wives, they would look for women that had thick fingers. Because if they had thick fingers, it meant that they would have bigger dimples in their Moravian sugar cake that would hold bigger pockets of cinnamon and sugar. Laura Dugger: (41:28 - 41:42) I love that. I thought that was so funny. Well, Kendall, what are some of the most creative ways that you've been able to pair bread and generosity together to minister to others? Kendall Vanderslice: (41:43 - 43:24) Yeah, one of the things that I am doing right now is, you know, I'm on the road several weeks of the year leading bread baking workshops in churches all over the country. And I love, love, love that part of my work. But in the last year, I started to really crave a closer connection with my community here in Durham, North Carolina. But I am traveling the country and telling other people about how to connect to home and how to connect to their communities. And that work keeps me from being able to connect to my own home and community. And so, I decided that when I am home, I want to have a more intentional way of feeding the people immediately around me. And so, I have this practice on Fridays of bread for friends and neighbors. And so, I'll tell, I'll send out an email to friends and neighbors on Monday and tell them, you know, here's what I'm baking this week if I'm in town. And then they let me know what they want. And on Fridays, I have this shed in my driveway that I open up and it's got this whole like really fun armoire and that I that I've sort of decorated to be a bread pickup area. And so, on Fridays, my neighbors and my friends all walk over, and they come pick up their bread. And it's just been such a gift to be able to feed my immediate community through bread. But then also to see and hear them sort of connecting in the driveway as they all come pick up their bread at the same time. And folks who either didn't know one another are starting to connect and find and meet one another. But then also neighbors to realize like, oh, you can get kindle bread, I get kindle bread. And, you know, it's just so fun to have that very simple point of connection, because it can be feel very easy to feel disconnected from the neighbors that you maybe see all over the place. But just that that time of connection and picking up bread, I think, goes a long way beyond just that particular moment. Laura Dugger: (43:26 - 43:36) Generosity is always inspiring. And where can we all go to learn more about edible theology online or all of the other things that you have to offer? Kendall Vanderslice: (43:37 - 44:05) You can learn more at my website, kendallvanderslice.com. The website is currently sort of under construction. So, I've got a makeshift website up right now where you can find everything. And eventually I will have more links to all of the edible theology resources. But you can find everything you need at kendallvanderslice.com. You can learn about my workshops. You can learn about my books. You can learn about curriculum, about retreats that I lead. All of it is right there. Laura Dugger: (44:06 - 44:24) Wonderful. We will certainly add links in today's show notes so that it's easy to find. And Kendall, you may be familiar that we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so is my final question for you today. What is your savvy sauce? Kendall Vanderslice: (44:25 - 45:13) Well, I think for me it is allowing myself to use even the simplest moments in the kitchen as a time for prayer rather than trying to rush through the practice of just seeing food as something I have to eat three times a day and something I have to make for myself. To realize that even something as simple as heating up a pot of soup or slicing some bread and smearing it with butter is still an invitation to thank God for this gift of food and the ability to prepare it. And so, I think that small practice alone can transform the way we relate to food and our bodies, but also to try and slow down and have a moment in our day where we avoid just rushing through and take a little bit more intentionality to appreciate the gifts that God has given us. Laura Dugger: (45:14 - 45:31) Well, Kendall, I was so intrigued from the first time that I heard about edible theology. And I really appreciate how you shed light on God's profound spiritual truths that are around us and that we can interact with in everyday life. But you also have such a charming personality. Kendall Vanderslice: (45:32 - 45:38) So, thank you for being my guest. Thank you so much for having me. It's been such a delight to be here. Laura Dugger: (45:39 – 49:21) One more thing before you go. Have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you. But it starts with the bad news. Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there is absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved. We need a savior. But God loved us so much, he made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him. That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life we could never live and died in our place for our sin. This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished if we choose to receive what He has done for us. Romans 10:9 says, “That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” So, would you pray with me now? Heavenly Father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you. Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me, so me for him. You get the opportunity to live your life for him. And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you ready to get started? First, tell someone. Say it out loud. Get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes & Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible, and I love it. You can start by reading the book of John. Also, get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps, such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you. We want to celebrate with you too, so feel free to leave a comment for us here if you did make a decision to follow Christ. We also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process. And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “In the same way I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today. And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.
Have you ever found yourself grasping for a quick fix—work, food, social media, or endless productivity—to ease the discomfort of life? What if true healing and freedom don't come from trying harder, but from surrendering more deeply? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, host Gem Fadling sits down with Ian Morgan Cron—bestselling author, psychotherapist, Enneagram teacher, and Episcopal priest—to talk about his new book, The Fix. This fresh and deeply personal exploration of the Twelve Steps goes far beyond addiction recovery. It's an invitation for all of us to embrace a more honest, grace-filled, and spiritually awake life. Whether you’re feeling stuck, tired of surface-level fixes, or longing for true transformation, this conversation will meet you right where you are—and gently invite you to something deeper.
The Rev. Stephanie Yancy preaches on the second Sunday of Easter.
The Art and Power of Preaching with David Schlafer In this episode of Good News, Lynn Shematek and co-hosts Deacons Jon Shematek and Lauren Welch speak with Reverend Dr. David Schlafer—a philosopher, priest, preacher, and teacher. Dr. Schlafer shares his journey from a background in philosophy and Southern Baptist roots to becoming an influential Episcopal priest and educator in homiletics. He delves into his philosophy of preaching, the significance of developing one's unique voice, and the preaching role of deacons and laypersons in the church. The discussion is rich with insights on the importance of careful, respectful use of language in preaching and the transformative power of sermons. Listeners are encouraged to embrace deep listening and nurturing conversations as vital tools for meaningful and impactful preaching.00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:25 David Schlafer's Background and Journey03:25 Philosophy and Preaching04:51 Teaching and Influences10:13 The Role of Deacons in Preaching13:59 Engaging the Congregation23:09 The Power of Language in Preaching25:25 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsDr. David J. Schlafer's email: drdavidjschlafer@gmail.comBooks (all 18 of them!) by the Rev. Dr. David J. Schlafer, including "Surviving the Sermon: A Guide to Preaching for Those Who Have to Listen" and "Your Way with God's Word" may be found at https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/141628.David_J_Schlafer and on Amazon books.Audio version of this episode is available at podcast platforms linked to https://listening-for-clues.captivate.fm/listenThe Good News! podcast series is part of the ListeningforClues portfolio. Catch us at https://listeningforclues.com/© 2025 Listening for Clues
Send us a textThis week we celebrate 250 episodes of our Podcast, For People! From its inception until now our purpose has been singular, to talk about God, God's goodness and how we might respond to this good God made known to us in the person of Jesus Christ. Thus far, we have listeners in 142 countries. An immense thank you goes to Easton Davis, our producer, and Melissa Rau, my conversation partner, most weeks. Incredibly affirming and instructive for us in this work is that we have heard from so many telling us about the ways For People has been a blessing, companion and inspiration for them in their life with Christ. Please know that we understand it to be a privilege to make this offering. Psalm 118 helps me say how I really feel about this milestone, "You are my God, and I will thank you; you are my God, and I will exalt you. Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good….” -Bishop Rob WrightIn the 250th episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright take listeners on a journey through some of the most profound moments from past conversations on For People. The four soundbites from podcasts guests include The Rev. Dr. Robert Franklin, Archbishop Hosam Elias Naom, Texas State Representative James Talarico, and Bishop Mariann Budde. These soundbites represent critical intersections of faith and life emphasizing the importance of moral leadership in our world today. Listen in for the full conversation. In celebrating 250 episodes, we have developed a survey to better understand how Bishop Wright's For People Podcast can continue to inspire, engage, and serve our listeners. Your feedback is invaluable in helping us improve the content, format, and overall experience of the podcast. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey here.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
Listen to Bishop Doyle's sermon, "Easter - Resurrection Faith" held at All Souls Episcopal Church, Arlington, TX. More at www.texasbishop.com
Listen to Bishop Doyle's sermon, "Good Friday - The Throne of Christ" held at St. Luke's Episcopal Church, Livingston, TX. More at www.texasbishop.com
Tiffany Coker and Pastor Jeff Cranston sit down to recap key takeaways from their two-part conversation with Pastor Erik Janke of May River Lutheran Church. From Martin Luther's original teachings to the three major Lutheran denominations in the U.S., they explore the key doctrines, worship practices, and theological distinctives that shape the Lutheran tradition today.
How does someone who is living, like it or not, in the last third of life, address everybody else who is living in the second third? It's an important question, cuz most of the time it's like two ships passing in the night. An older Episcopal priest used to come up to me about once a week -- he was assisting in a busy parish where I was rector -- and say, "Hey, Paul, relax. You're working too hard. Please, relax." Every time he did that -- and his "intentions were good" (The Animals, 1965) -- I'd get a-fib! Literally, my heart would jump and I'd get a-fib. What this nice man said was kindly intended, but it always had the opposite effect....: a-fib. So hey, how can Hewes Hull, my conversation partner this week, and yours truly say what our experience and our faith has taught us -- mostly through impasse and insuperabilities -- in such a way that it can get through to a normal, busy (i.e., stressed) listener? That is the Question. I think the podcast probably works. And mainly because of a story Hewes tells, from his own life, near the end. Oh, and there's the music, too, and especially the last, eternal track. So, hey, you out there,... Relax. LUV U, PZ
Send us a textAuthority comes in many forms, but as Jesus entered Jerusalem on the back of a donkey, he modeled an understanding that may transform how we view our empowerment. While crowds waved palm branches and shouted "Hosanna!" one day and "Crucify him!" shortly after, Jesus remained steadfast. Neither public praise nor rejection sways him from his purpose. This spiritual maturity stands as both a challenge and an invitation to us – can we remain faithful to our calling regardless of external forces?In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation about Jesus' authority using his return to Jerusalem as the backdrop. Bishop Wright distinguishes holding positions of leadership and living into God-given authority. "Jesus never said 'come and sit in a building and hear words wash over you,'" he reminds us. Rather, being authorized by Jesus means joining him in active ministry – what Bishop Wright calls Jesus' "never-ending, ever-unfolding neighborly campaign." This reframing challenges each baptized Christian to recognize they've already been empowered to serve, rather than waiting for ordained leadership to act. Listen in for the full conversation. Read For Faith, the companion devotional.Support the show Follow us on IG and FB at Bishop Rob Wright.
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On the evening of Saturday, July 21st, 1984, the local Catholic residents of the tiny town of Ronan, Montana, all gathered at 5:30 p.m. to celebrate mass with their new priest, Father John Kerrigan, who had just been assigned to their parish. He never showed. He didn't show up Sunday morning either. Days later, his bloodstained clothes were discovered along a highway, but his body has never been found.Father Kerrigan's case has many similarities to the disappearances and murders of three other priests. Two of whom knew Father Kerrigan. Could they all be related?Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Last Rites: Father John Kerrigan”Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from Octoberpod AMExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Pawprinthttps://unsolved.com/gallery/fr-reynaldo-rivera/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193119300/john-patrick-kerriganhttps://www.insidehook.com/culture/unholy-mystery-murdered-priestshttps://www.newspapers.com/image/394096896/?match=1&terms=missing%20priesthttps://www.newspapers.com/image/412665061/?match=1&clipping_id=167657715https://flatheadbeacon.com/2021/03/23/the-vanishing-of-a-priest/https://www.newspapers.com/image/1076932453/?match=1&clipping_id=167658436https://www.newspapers.com/image/350294378/?match=1&clipping_id=167658601https://www.newspapers.com/image/241351966/?match=1&clipping_id=167658779https://www.newspapers.com/image/350293577/?match=1&clipping_id=167658861https://www.newspapers.com/image/350304344/?match=1&clipping_id=167658922https://www.newspapers.com/image/350294283/?match=1&clipping_id=167659009https://www.newspapers.com/image/351402921/?match=1&clipping_id=167659122https://www.newspapers.com/image/354806616/?match=1&clipping_id=167659492https://www.newspapers.com/image/955820619/?match=1&clipping_id=167660070https://www.newspapers.com/image/349681260/?match=1&clipping_id=167660152https://www.newspapers.com/image/350705169/?clipping_id=167660321https://www.newspapers.com/image/958094424/?match=1&clipping_id=167660609https://www.newspapers.com/image/410685517/?match=1&clipping_id=167660917https://www.newspapers.com/image/470116359/?match=1&clipping_id=167661286https://www.newspapers.com/image/1073605939/?match=1&clipping_id=167661444https://www.newspapers.com/image/957459872/?clipping_id=167661532https://www.newspapers.com/image/467114749/?match=1&terms=Father%20John%20Kerrigan%20priesthttps://www.newspapers.com/image/467367147/?match=1&terms=Father%20John%20Kerrigan%20priest (List of accused priests and personnel)https://www.newspapers.com/image/958922589/?terms=Father%20John%20Kerrigan%20priesthttps://www.newspapers.com/image/350303929/?match=1&terms=Curtis%20Holmenhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/350302245/?match=1&terms=Curtis%20Holmenhttps://charleyproject.org/case/curtis-austin-holmenhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/394128873/?match=1&terms=Swan%20River%20Youth%20Forest%20Camphttps://www.newspapers.com/image/350292686/?match=1&terms=Daniel%20Radihttps://www.newspapers.com/image/1076936323/?match=1&terms=Daniel%20Radihttps://www.newspapers.com/image/350294378/?match=1&terms=Daniel%20Radihttps://www.newspapers.com/image/350294362/?match=1&terms=Daniel%20Radihttps://www.newspapers.com/image/351280442/?match=1&terms=%22George%20Ferguson%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/351115205/?match=1&terms=Episcopal%20priest%20missinghttps://www.newspapers.com/image/392859867/?match=1&terms=Episcopal%20priest%20missinghttps://www.newspapers.com/image/392870634/?match=1&terms=Episcopal%20priest%20missinghttps://www.newspapers.com/image/351116613/?match=1&clipping_id=167830432https://www.newspapers.com/image/394137120/?match=1&clipping_id=167833184https://www.newspapers.com/image/288943388/?match=1&clipping_id=168181958https://www.episcopalchurch.org/eir/what-is-the-difference-between-the-episcopal-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/