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The #1 Difference Between Gross and Awesome Selling TacticsThere are a thousand ways to make money and whether it's a DM or a funnel or an ad or a webinar or a VSL or a Free CHALLENGE there will always be a segment of the market that does it GROSS and others that do it really well and everyone LOOVES it.So what's the difference between GROSS and awesome?For me, no matter which method I use, it always always always always starts with my true INTENTION.Are we looking for a one night stand or a lifelong relationship.After selling millions of dollars in products and services for companies like AT&T, Intuit (Quickbooks), Quill, Starting my own beverage company and now (my retirement years) consulting businesses to sell authentically I know there is no single “tactic” that is the “silver bullet”.At least not if you want lasting, reliable, “lay my head on the pillow with a clear conscious” business.To call it “social selling” isn't even correct IMHO.DM selling is very different than social selling.Social selling is as old as the hills (citing: How to Win Friends and Influence People and he learned it from his grandfather!!)What makes one method work for someone and not another .... ??I would say ask yourself “what makes one pick up line work for one person and not another?”A thousand factors... right?If you are reaching out on any platform (even text /BOT/ email/ it's not JUST DM's where this can be a problem) ....It's easy when as marketers we look at DATA and forget the HUMAN that makes up that dot on the matrix.My best advice if you've been on either side of something that makes you feel GROSS and are now wary of any sales activities ...I Set an intention to be KIND .... (my belief is of you are here, you ARE genuinely kind)What I to use to try to imagine that everyone is a child of someone, a neighbor, maybe a sister or brother to someone, a spouse of someone... and know that everyone is dealing with something right now that has absolutely nothing to do with you, a product, a service or anything that you may ever know about. This softens the energy and allows us to really tune in so that we are not coming off wrong.When you treat them like you'd want your grandmother to be treated it will all work out, I promise.So if you had an idea to message someone .... check in with yourself “what's my intention” if it's genuine, then do it!If it's “try” to get the sale ... think again.... everyone can smell it and it's not pretty.If you are struggling with the fact that you REALLY DO want the sale and need a way to cleanse your intention and get back to your true self, I have a practice that has worked for thousands of “social sellers” who were about to go into DM's, get on a sales call, host a webinar, or step out on stage that they say has made ALL the difference.Start here: www.reneehribar.co/training*********************************************Renee Hribar has been a sales professional since 1994 in New York. She has sold millions of dollars in products and services and trained thousands to sell for the first time. She is known in her industry as a fun, energetic executive sales coach who leads with heart. A TEDx speaker who offers training sessions at global conferences, boardrooms and most recently through virtual programs, she skillfully breaks down her decades of sales expertise with a flair that makes listening to her joy and if you take action, extremely profitable. With her one-of-a-kind "laugh & learn" teaching style, you will certainly walk away with a new view on the "softer side of sales". Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
00:01.66 mikebledsoe Ah, it's been. Ah, it's been a week connected so took last week off and we're doing this a little late this week. So I'm sure we've got plenty of catching up to do. 00:09.20 Dr_ Placebo It feels weird to not talk to you for this long it. It's a part of my way of life now I mean now the only constant in my life is the puppy schedule which I am now strictly adhering to. 00:15.30 mikebledsoe It's it's strange. Yeah. 00:28.90 Dr_ Placebo And. 00:30.30 mikebledsoe Yeah, how's that ah I've heard I remember Tim Ferriss was writing about getting a dog and how that was created like a new level of discipline and grounding in his life. Are you experiencing something similar. 00:36.28 Dr_ Placebo But. 00:43.14 Dr_ Placebo Totally I was even talking to um, an inventor friend of mine at the gym the other day and we were. We're talking about history and fighter pilots and things like that and how a lot of them say that basic training was the worst thing ever. Ah, during it but the best thing ever Afterward long term and I could describe my my whole life as trying to free myself from any obligation and any schedule whatsoever and what's funny is that I. 01:03.38 mikebledsoe Wow. 01:19.83 Dr_ Placebo I did I was able to do that I basically freed myself of ah, any obligation. Ah, and you know that's when you can get real weird right? But it's ah. 01:31.82 mikebledsoe Been there? Yeah, ah. 01:35.80 Dr_ Placebo But with puppies if if you try to freewheel like that They'll just destroy your life I mean the life I had already is gone. No question. Whatever I was doing before.. It's like a distant memory.. It's so interesting How this has become an all. Consuming thing So fast. 01:56.85 mikebledsoe All right I Want to see these puppies so you got to send me some I'll throw it up in the blog by the way. Um I I'm gonna start having these ah these are gonna be. We're gonna have full blog write ups for the show. 02:02.50 Dr_ Placebo I. 02:14.16 mikebledsoe Ah, they're gonna be posted I'll have a substack up soon that they're going to be going on and people will get emails with a summary and a little little email about the show whenever it pops out every Monday and then the blog will have a written summary. 02:14.55 Dr_ Placebo Rad. 02:29.61 Dr_ Placebo Wow, That's pretty exciting. 02:31.32 mikebledsoe We should be able to just click to from the emails. So if yeah, if y'all were wondering you know when we were gonna turn pro. it's it's happening you know what's really interesting is I remember with barbell shrugged episode 42 was a pivotal show for us. We'd learned something on that show like and we were trying to improve the craft of podcasting and I remember it was episodes 42 through 45 was us going through this transformation and immediately people. Started messaging us saying I don't know what you guys did but whatever you're doing keep it up the show the show that you know is like episode 42 was the best episode 43 44 or 45 you're like oh this is just the new normal. And yeah, so we're on episode 43 of the Monday morning podcast and ah yeah I feel like we're hitting a ah stride with that as well. 03:38.84 Dr_ Placebo Yeah I like the vibe that we've cultivated here. It's really serious topics I mean arguably some of the most serious topics imaginable. It's like ah death and kinks. And entrepreneurship and relationships. But the we're pretty chill about it. It's like serious topics with a ah relaxed vibe. 04:02.13 mikebledsoe Well I think a lot of people avoid these topics because they don't they whenever it was brought up in the past for them. They didn't have a level of levity that was part of the conversation if we can lighten it up a little bit makes it way easier to consume. So yeah I think. 04:12.27 Dr_ Placebo 1 04:22.20 mikebledsoe Enough about enough about us just tooting our horns. Even though we have a lot of horns that too. Ah I think that? Ah yeah I want to fill you on what I did last week you know I got so I got stuck in maui for 2 days and hi now. 04:31.39 Dr_ Placebo Lay it on me, you poor you poor dear. 04:41.37 mikebledsoe I I remember I remember having it was kind of like the it's like the first time I was ever used by a woman for my body. You know I had this moment of like oh my god you just wanted me for my body I feel so dirty. And about 2 seconds later I was like oh my god she wanted me for my body I was like yes so maui similar similar situation I go oh oh bummer I'm missing my flight I'm like well I'm in Maui I'll go to the beach. 05:16.66 Dr_ Placebo So you missed your flight on purpose. Ah. 05:19.40 mikebledsoe No, no, absolutely not no I um I spent a week in molakai which is ah ah, an island with a population of 7000 people and 22000 axis year. So I was hunting out there which was just. The most fun I've ever had hunting it. It was so cool. Definitely going back fact I'll probably go back and I'll invite people to come with me as I so I typically do and yeah, you do. 05:47.37 Dr_ Placebo So you can get a free ride I know you're game blood. So like he's like I love this thing gosh if I just invite like 10 of my friends I can do it for free and if I invite 20 then I have a new career. 06:00.82 mikebledsoe Not not not only not only not only do I get to go for free I might get paid and even if I don't tax write offs baby like I'm going to be applying for my Ffl license like all my guns should be tax write offs. 06:12.45 Dr_ Placebo Boom. 06:20.35 mikebledsoe Organize a couple of hunts. It's a business to business. 06:23.51 Dr_ Placebo And you know what? it's actually ah we're joking about but it's super authentic and that's one of the things I like about you is you? You are that firestarter you get excited about something and then you get other people excited about it I've seen it happen. Many times throughout the years that I've known you so it's. 06:43.10 mikebledsoe Um, sometimes I regret it I'm like oh man I Really kind of screwed that person up but and you know who you are. You're listening out there. 06:46.65 Dr_ Placebo Well. 06:56.10 mikebledsoe Ah, ah. 06:56.40 Dr_ Placebo Ah, so so what do you use? Did you ah hunt them with a knife Ninja stars spear I would love to go spear hunting I feel like that would just be super gangster like a pointy stick. 07:02.30 mikebledsoe You know, um, are you not not for deer but you can do that for hog I know there's a place in Arkansas basically where you can hunt hog with a spear and they use ah they use pit bulls they put like kevlar jackets on these pits and then basically you chase the hogs down the the dogs get a hold of it and while the dogs are holding it you you you stick the pig so that's. 07:26.61 Dr_ Placebo Um, amazing. 07:32.35 Dr_ Placebo That's ah, got to be a very visceral feeling if you'll excuse the pun. 07:37.82 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, um, so that's a possibility. But yeah, what what we did was ah I was shooting a rifle. He's a rifle I have a I have ah a savage ah savage one Ten ultralight. 07:43.53 Dr_ Placebo 22 I'm guessing 07:53.87 mikebledsoe Ah shoots a six five creed more which is a much faster round than what most hunting rifles are firing like it's a newer round There's there's some others that are faster but this is one of those ah speed matters because the amount that that round will drop. Or how much it'll be impacted by wind actually gets reduced a bit so there's fewer adjustments that have to be made when you're shooting really far. But um, exactly exactly. 08:21.93 Dr_ Placebo There's less time for it to fall along the same amount of distance if if it's going faster. It's like a laser pointer hardly falls at all. 08:30.82 mikebledsoe ah hardly but ah yeah so we're out there hunting I got to got to kill early in the the week spent a lot of time just chilling. You know we were very living very primitive. Um I mean we weren't cooking over campfire. But we it was pretty close. You know a shitting outdoors sleeping on a one inch mat ah doors wide open but ah. 08:54.77 Dr_ Placebo Well, it makes 2 of us shitting outdoors at a but mine was a plumbing emergency though. So me and the dogs were ah we were all using the yard. 09:05.12 mikebledsoe Ah, ah I'm sure the neighbors love that the it's like whoa. What's that smell. 09:12.83 Dr_ Placebo That's the least of their worries with what I do in my backyard. 09:18.24 mikebledsoe Yeah, so I I finished the hunt have a great time. Got to connect with some guys. Um Ben Greenfield was on the hunt with me in fact, him and his 2 boys and yeah, just a beautiful time and yeah I go to you know I leave. 09:26.93 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 09:35.60 mikebledsoe Molokai that island I hop on maui to to get on my plane to come home and the flight gets canceled so I find a hotel and then I go back to the airport the next morning and I get on the plane and then they cancel that flight or they delay that flight an hour and they. Delay that flight by an hour about 5 times so I'm just yeah I'm just hanging out the airport you know twiddling my thumbs and ah, finally like they're like oh we'll put you on a flight for tonight. 09:55.21 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 10:09.23 mikebledsoe So come back in 5 hours I'm like all right I went back to the beach and while I'm at the beach I check my phone and they're like oh your flight for tonight got delayed till tomorrow morning. So I I went from like booking a flight where I was gonna catch a red eye on this nice first class. 10:19.90 Dr_ Placebo Wow man. 10:28.28 mikebledsoe Seat and I was going to be able to sleep on the way home and I was gonna be home in like 12 hours to it being like a 24 hour you know added an extra stop in there just to get me home and basically showed up home two days late. Ah my fiance was not happy about that. 10:39.59 Dr_ Placebo Oof. 10:46.79 mikebledsoe And then ah yeah, just just now recovering so basically lost the night of sleep. You know. 10:55.48 Dr_ Placebo Sweet. So did you bring back? some meat did you? ah you you brought your own rifle with you. So I'm guessing you checked that and that was no big deal ah is really interesting. 11:05.45 mikebledsoe No big deal. Dude after after fly I've never flown with a gun before but after going through the process I realized you could pretty much ship any gun anywhere you want inside the us like they don't They're not really paying that much attention to it honestly. So. 11:21.14 Dr_ Placebo I Think it has to do with the volume right? I mean there's just so many packages going every which way but that's got to be an odd feeling because you I'm sure you walk into the airport with a rifle right? like. 11:28.79 mikebledsoe Yeah. 11:36.11 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah I walk in I check in and then I go I got to go up to like the special baggage place and I go I've got ah I've got ah a gun in here and like oh okay, well here's a special form you know which is basically almost nothing sign it. 11:39.40 Dr_ Placebo That's funny. Yeah, yeah. 11:51.79 mikebledsoe Walk it over to a special Tsa section. They take it and then I see it when I land and you know when I landed they didn't even um, ah one of the trips that didn't look get my Id when I picked up my rifle I'm like so anyone could have just walked up and grabbed this. It's like there's a very interesting. Thing going on here. 12:11.40 Dr_ Placebo I'm so you know I don't know how much that happens but I I only check a bag under duress like I don't check bags when I fly the bag stays with me because I see that I see the carousel with all the bags everywhere. 12:20.25 mikebledsoe Yeah I try to do that. 12:28.36 Dr_ Placebo And I'm like how do people not just pick up bags all the time like if I was ah a crooked thief. That's the only place I would go I would just go to Airports grab a random bag off the carousel slap ah a funny ah extra tag onto it. So It looks like it's immediately mine keep like a little pink scarf up my sleeve throw throw the pink scarf on the bag people would never think that's that there'd be oh that guy has the same bag as me, but with a pink scarf on it and you see these bags just making laps around there. You're like how. How did they not get stolen all the time. 13:06.64 mikebledsoe Well with with my my flight being delayed like it was I Ah, my bags arrived a whole day before me. So I'm like all right I got a rifle that's arriving at airport a whole day before me. Hopefully it's there when I get there and it was It was fun. 13:11.78 Dr_ Placebo This is something. 13:19.44 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, hopefully no one picks it up. 13:23.91 mikebledsoe But um, yeah, the meat's being shipped to me they I almost I had to fly in with a cooler because the island is too primitive to carry enough coolers. You're not going to go into like the local hardware store and grab there's 8 of us hunting 8 coolers. It's not going to happen. So um, ah. 13:38.17 Dr_ Placebo Right. 13:42.20 mikebledsoe I Opted to instead of carrying it back which I could have I just said hey ship it I'll pay for it and thank God I did because that meat would have not done well over two days of just being in a cooler. Um, but on the spot we did eat Raw heart So we made like a heart seviche so it technically wasn't a heart raw because it was. 13:43.36 Dr_ Placebo Meaning. 13:52.10 Dr_ Placebo If. 14:01.28 Dr_ Placebo Acid cooked. 14:02.50 mikebledsoe Had some ah yeah, acid cooked a bit but had some raw liver. We killed that week and ah I got to drink amniotic fluid. So one of the deer had been pregnant and we were able to get the amniotic sack. 14:21.46 mikebledsoe Puncture a hole in it fill a cup I drink that I tell you what the rest of my day I was I was on point hump and yeah, just running around hump and deer. Ah yeah, it was interesting I mean basically like drinking stem cells. 14:28.75 Dr_ Placebo Humping deer. 14:33.70 Dr_ Placebo Just as I let you're sprouting hooves. Maybe you'll get antlers wouldn't that be a trip I'm not going to read too much into why? That's the case but that's a cool. 14:40.90 mikebledsoe Oh I think I think Ashley would be ended at the antlers. Yeah. 14:52.80 Dr_ Placebo Cool thing I bet we can already do that I bet we already have the possibility to do weird shit like that like they grew a human ear on a mouse like twenty fucking years ago so I would not be surprised if they could grow you a set of antlers if you really wanted to. 14:54.10 mikebledsoe Ah, so yeah, that was the. 15:11.59 Dr_ Placebo Personally I'm waiting for the ah Elephant Trunk ah surgery where I can get an elephant trunk like maybe in the middle of the chest or something how useful would that be super sensitive I could drink out of it hold. 15:22.34 mikebledsoe Extremely You just pick off or just shit up I've always wanted an action arm. Yeah. 15:31.90 Dr_ Placebo Hold liquids I can sniff with it I mean so crazy strong Never go to the gym again I just have this like absolute unit of a tentacle. 15:44.27 mikebledsoe What we want to talk about today. What do we? What do we want to dig into. 15:51.83 Dr_ Placebo I mean hunting is a cool thing. Um, gosh I mean with the dogs ah speaking of hunting right? like there are hunting buddies. You were even saying before how they. Throw the kevlar on the dogs for hog hunting which is pretty wild. Um man I I have an appointment with a dog trainer I think next week or something like that and I thought I was doing really badly. As ah as a dog owner I thought I was so behind thought I was just a total disaster apparently I'm like way ahead of the curve talking to this lady though but having 2 dogs that are siblings. Brother sister is way tougher because. 16:25.34 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 16:42.99 Dr_ Placebo When you're trying to train them up. They're just you know, biting each other so you get 1 to listen to you and the other one just tackles the one who's listening so it's kind of a funny experience but I could do a whole show on the puppy lessons I've learned so far I started a puppy journal. 16:50.90 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 17:02.92 Dr_ Placebo And I also realized that you know dogs don't have a prefrontal cortex but they're basically like people and I think we give ourselves way too much credit for. 17:12.32 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, um. 17:20.73 Dr_ Placebo Like how clever we could be versus what creatures of ah routine and reward. We really are so you know me I like to ah synthesize things into a little ah easy to remember stuff. So. 17:27.99 mikebledsoe Yeah. 17:39.98 Dr_ Placebo Ah, demonstration is greater than explanation is a good one that applies to both dogs and people and that's also the um, the heart of the the type of teaching I like to do it's like teaching without attachment. To the result of the student because it's a very heavy burden to I used to feel super obligated um to all my customers, especially all my subscribers because the reality is they absolutely um, like made my life I mean the amount of people who bought books and bought videos. 18:18.90 Dr_ Placebo Um, super enriching both ways. So I felt this obligation like I gotta get them to do this thing. You know so I would explain the ever lovingving shit out of it instead of just being the example and doing the demonstration. It's the same with dogs course dogs don't speak English So An explanation is even more stupid but for a human I think um, same kind of idea is way better to set the example than to than to preach. Ah my opinion of course. 18:51.19 mikebledsoe Yeah man Ah, just finished a book last week or so wanting is the name of the book and basically just talks about how we model you know by? everyone's just modeling someone else. The desires are modeled. You don't know. 19:05.69 Dr_ Placebo That help. 19:09.20 mikebledsoe You walk into a bar. You're not you don't want to have a drink but you walk in your friends got a Moscow Mule you're like ah man I need and know I wanted to have one of those but now I do I think that people really can resonate with that that you know there's like I'll have a i. I was at a restaurant a couple weeks ago and for a friend dinner. Everyone ordered drinks I wasn't going to order a drink now I've got a scotch in my hand so you know there's ah no man I can't be the weirdo. Yeah. 19:38.60 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, baby, you don't want to get kicked out of the tribe dude pour me a drink too. That's that's the that's the toughest 1 right is to be exiled out of the group um in a lot of cultures that was. Way worse than death I mean it meant death but a slow suffering dishonorable death. You know your family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's a public shaming that leads to a slow death versus. 19:58.35 mikebledsoe Well, you got like death and shame stack together like the you didn't die for a good reason. He he died because you meant you're an asshole. 20:14.80 Dr_ Placebo Ah, like a tribal respect and a quick death which you know one's way better. 20:17.97 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, not in battle. Um, yeah, say you you want to without your puppy Journal I also have my journal from the hunt. So I think we just go through our lessons. 20:27.18 Dr_ Placebo You know if you give me a yeah Pauseit or you can ah keep everyone entertained and I'll go grab that. 20:34.52 mikebledsoe I'll pause it real quick. Go get it so you want to go first. You want me to go first. We got we got puppies and hunting journals. 20:44.19 Dr_ Placebo Puppies and hunting Journals I Love it. Let's ah, let's start with hunting. 20:50.53 mikebledsoe Right? We'll go with hunting right? So um, we actually did a bit of like that the hunting trips I do with Manzel is is. Is a little different than most people first I'm not going to read it. It's very personal. maybe maybe I'll get the balls to ah, go out. Yeah well I I wrote ah I wrote a letter to the deer I was hunting. 21:14.62 Dr_ Placebo Personal like sexual what kind of hunting were you doing out there. 21:23.54 Dr_ Placebo Cool. 21:26.55 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, wrote a letter a love letter to the deer I was hunting. Um, um I had I had an insight over the week that I asked myself. 21:29.69 Dr_ Placebo What else. 21:46.80 mikebledsoe Where am I because everything slowed down I turned my phone off completely off grid and noticed I asked myself where am I seeking stimulation over solitude and you know really noticed around. 2 3 days in how I was really was it. It took me 2 3 days to for the mind to slow down and be on island time because we're hanging out with some people who are from molochi so these are these are like they're not from the city these are. 22:16.71 Dr_ Placebo M. 22:23.35 mikebledsoe These are Hawaiians that are like true true Hawaiian like they haven't been you know, westernized as much and I mean they have but like you know they they hold that Island time thing. Everything's super chill slow motion. Um, and you know for. 22:25.12 Dr_ Placebo They're hunters. 22:36.52 Dr_ Placebo Moon. 22:42.77 mikebledsoe Ah, guy like myself who's going high speed a lot That's just a. It's a bit jarring but I I really started asking myself. You know where am I where am I yeah seeking stimulation. Yeah, ah yeah, so ah. 22:52.75 Dr_ Placebo It's like pulling the e break pulling the emergency break at a hundred. 23:02.38 mikebledsoe Yeah I really reflected on that and then I I noticed that I need to remove some things from my schedule. There's there's just too many commitments in the future So started moving some things around and some things that I previously. 23:05.65 Dr_ Placebo O. 23:19.62 mikebledsoe Couldn't didn't even consider could be removed or moved and I was able to do that. Um, yeah, actually my summit um I'm gonna move the dates of the summit supposed to happen. 23:24.57 Dr_ Placebo Really anything. You'd like to share that's pretty cool. 23:36.68 mikebledsoe Was supposed to happen next month. But I'm gonna move it to November and you know that's a lot. You know there's people who are looking forward to those specific dates. But I I feel as though it's it's if I wait any longer to make the the announcement but you know it would be a little. Too late for a lot of people. But I think we can do it a month out and be okay. Ah really really got to reflect on how I'm the ah I am the ah result of my ancestors choices. You know whether. 23:58.74 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 24:14.87 mikebledsoe They be wise choices or or foolish choices every single choice since the beginning of of my lineage has really created this result that I'm right now and I'm I'm the 1 choosing moving forward, but really, um. 24:17.14 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 24:33.16 mikebledsoe Recognizing that a lot of things that got me to where I am was actually foolish choices I think a lot of times people think about their ancestry. You're like oh there's so much wisdom there I was like there's a bunch of idiots in there too and and what what? what am I What am I making sure. Ah. 24:50.68 Dr_ Placebo Um, just ah, just a long line of Horny retards. Um. 24:53.96 mikebledsoe Yeah, was like is like okay like I need to be intentional about what I'm carrying forward because not everything. Not everything is Good. You know and how am I am I carrying those those lessons and how do I Harvest The wisdom From. My lineage without carrying on all the the the Foolishness. Ah. 25:20.54 Dr_ Placebo Man Ah, you're talking about ah many many multiple generations but even just the immediate ancestors the parents That's ah that's a really big deal is ah you know I worked with so many people coaching wise and you know I don't want to. 25:30.19 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 25:38.43 Dr_ Placebo Be, the guy who's laying everybody down on the psychiatrist couch right? but the reality the reality is that a lot of people are working through some sort of ah resentment or ah. Kind of the opposite like a personal resentment because you can't live up to your parents' expectations. It's like 1 or the other right either resent your parents for doing a bad job or you feel bad about yourself for not doing a good enough job. Ah, a lot of the time and. 25:58.19 mikebledsoe Yeah, so. 26:05.41 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 26:10.77 Dr_ Placebo Ah, working through those things but not ah, not judging because whether it's yourself or your ancestors whatever which you can think of them all as the same thing in a certain sense. Um, you know everybody's doing whatever they think is going to get them what they want. Based on how they think and feel all the time like everybody's always doing their best and I remember the first time someone told me that I was dating this lady who is ah pretty significantly older than me and she said everyone's doing their best and I said no, they're not I was like 20 years old 26:48.11 mikebledsoe Ah, well here's the thing is like I think I think where it gets I think where people get confused about that is like ah everyone is doing their best. But I think there a lot of times people who say that assume that we're all going the same direction is like. 27:05.19 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, it's based on how you think and feel at the time is my little caveat based on how you think and feel at the time. Everybody's always doing their best and you know I've talked about it So many times if you're um, getting what they want either love power or attention love power or attention. 27:05.45 mikebledsoe Like yeah. 27:13.50 mikebledsoe But they're best at what getting what they want? Yeah so not not not for the greater. They're not doing the best they can do for the great Great greater humanity. 27:22.42 Dr_ Placebo And if you can't get 1 you'll move on to the next one no no and and actually no one is the only reason people do that is because it feels good to them right? The same reason that a guy sacrifices all his worldly possessions to join a monastery is because he thinks that's a good deal. It's not because he's like a. 27:34.30 mikebledsoe Right. 27:42.70 mikebledsoe Yeah. 27:45.45 Dr_ Placebo Like a noble person. He just thinks that'll get him a better result. 27:50.80 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, ah all right? So so another another phase of the hunt. We actually had a ah guide take us to some old ruins that were incredibly old I have no idea I probably wasn't paying attention to that part. 27:53.49 Dr_ Placebo Ah, on. 28:08.72 mikebledsoe Um, one of those things you're like ah we suspect this is five hundred or a thousand years old I I don't know so ah, we went to a site where it was ah there's ah, a lot of evidence and a lot of stories to support the idea that there were human sacrifices happening. At this very specific site. So ah. 28:29.60 Dr_ Placebo You got my attention human sacrifice that was the topic I didn't know I wanted to talk about but now that we're here I'm so glad can we do a whole episode on human sacrifice. That's that's such an incredible idea. That's such an incredible idea. 28:43.82 mikebledsoe Yeah I think we should do that next week. Yeah, next week well what's interesting is ah ah one of the things I started exploring ah while I was there after this is I've um. So I used to conflate or have the collapse distinction of service and sacrifice and I think a lot of people who come from a blue collar background do and so I've spent like 8 years you know I had that realization and started unwinding that. 29:05.86 Dr_ Placebo Oh yeah. 29:19.69 mikebledsoe And I spent 8 years only trying to be at service but but completely ignoring any possibilities of sacrifice and so I um, so I really did think about it really did cause me to think about sacrifice like ah the final hunt I ah hunted. Ah, multiple times while we were there and the final one was like really the intention was was around the sacrifice piece and I think it was really set up by that whole human sacrifice thing because they talked about how the the people who were being sacrificed. 29:49.94 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 29:56.70 mikebledsoe Actually saw as an honor to be able to to be sacrificed who knows but um, so we we? yeah I mean that. 30:04.17 Dr_ Placebo Right? And and everybody everybody's convinced that it's going to be better to do this that That's the whole idea right? We were just talking about that they're doing it why because they think it'll get them a better result than not doing it. 30:12.37 mikebledsoe Totally totally. 30:21.17 mikebledsoe 72 version versions. Ah but the so we sat at the site and journaled about ah death. So as as we're sitting at the site of human sacrifice talk about death. Um. 30:23.32 Dr_ Placebo A man. 30:38.49 mikebledsoe Fast forwarding to my own death and ah where I got was you know spending some time thinking about how much you know will I resist death when it arrives at my doorstep or will I will I welcome it and I think that. 30:56.90 Dr_ Placebo That's a tough one I hope I I hope I would but I'll probably be like a 80 year old guy and the angel of death will come by and I'll be like oh please no take my grandson instead. 30:58.00 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 31:11.94 Dr_ Placebo I'll just be really cowardly at the end of it all have this like super wise life and then finally face it like anyone but me. 31:12.63 mikebledsoe A. 31:19.97 mikebledsoe Ah, well like an asshole. Ah yeah I think there's an opportunity now I think I I know there's an opportunity to practice dying and practicing death and I think that's something that. I have experienced through through the use of psychedelics. Ah you know you take a big. 31:37.19 Dr_ Placebo I Got a lot out of the digital death that I did that was really interesting. Yeah I I just evaporated one day like my friends were all getting messages from people like where's max is he's dead is he okay and it it was It was cool. 31:44.20 mikebledsoe Digital oh that not going on Instagram. 31:57.17 Dr_ Placebo Ah, because I was like really attached to um that feedback you know the the audience is like hey we we love you when you do that stuff and so in order to let go of that it it is like a little a little death. 32:06.68 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 32:15.27 Dr_ Placebo Basically who yeah, that's it. That's you dude that was you. 32:15.95 mikebledsoe Oh yeah, I mean that happened when I left shrug. You know people people were like you know? Yeah I was like they were um yeah they I did not meet their expectations. Created all these expectations over years that I was going to be there every week and I was going to make them laugh and maybe they learn learn something and then I just stopped and people didn't like that. Um, yeah, so practicing death. Um. 32:50.50 mikebledsoe And and then what I what I got to is like will I have regrets and what what just came to me the quote came to me in a moment. Are you put on Twitter so it's it's famous. But I said excuses are the seeds of regret and I was thinking about regret. And that's that's what may I see regret as a thing that would cause someone to resist death like oh I'm not done yet I didn't do the thing that I really wanted to do and I think that really is the difference between somebody who's eighty years old and is able to go in peace. And someone who's eighty years old and and dies with suffering and it what hit me was like anything that is an excuse that's that's what I need to be looking for you. Don't want to think am I going to regret this what you want to be thinking is. 33:43.20 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 33:48.25 mikebledsoe Am I making an excuse about doing this or why am I am I telling myself reasons why this won't work even though it's something I really want to do and I mean knowing the differences between any excuse and a real reason. Ah. 33:52.11 Dr_ Placebo His father. 34:06.68 mikebledsoe Can be challenging at times. But I think that's something that each individual gets to learn in themselves and and these two things feel different an excuse feels different than you know, using your reason to to make your moves. 34:22.89 Dr_ Placebo There's ah I think the difference between excuse and reason is really hard to pinpoint. Actually I think Excuse has a bit of a negative I mean everything. 34:30.40 mikebledsoe Why I tell people to be unreasonable throw throw the reasons out the window like be rational, be rational rationalable be rational, but but don't be reasonable. 34:39.89 Dr_ Placebo I like it. It's able to be rationed I like rationable that could be fun rational. Ah like okay so. 34:44.17 mikebledsoe Yeah, alright Hashtag rationable. It's a thing. 34:54.15 Dr_ Placebo Responsibility is ability to respond. It's also a synonym for obligation right? and I think I think that's often how it's used like you list out you list out the responsibilities. Well you list out resp responses like okay, you've had people work for you right. 34:58.36 mikebledsoe But I don't think I don't think it is a cinnament for that and I why think I think most people will perceive it that way. 35:13.42 Dr_ Placebo And you list out what their responsibilities are like. For example, every day obligations. No okay you fucking whore Obligations accountabilities. 35:13.61 mikebledsoe Yeah I call them accountabilities not responsibilities accountabilities. Ah. 35:30.50 mikebledsoe Ah. 35:31.48 Dr_ Placebo Whatever you want to call it. It's a thing that you got to do and basically in that situation. What happens if it doesn't get done and that's that's when ah, a reason to me is is always an excuse right? because what you're trying to do is you are trying to excuse. Use yourself from the obligation. Ah so to me, it's very different and like you know you've had a lot of people work for you and it's you can always come up with a reason for why you didn't do the thing you said you were going to do right? But it's still. 35:54.70 mikebledsoe Um, ah. 36:09.52 Dr_ Placebo It's just trying to excuse that accountability right. 36:10.99 mikebledsoe Yeah I would say their culture that we we've cultivated with people who work for me. It's been a very like yeah I fucked up and I don't I don't get a lot of excuses from my people which is really refreshing just to. 36:19.19 Dr_ Placebo Um, yeah, right? yeah. 36:30.80 mikebledsoe Have people own it. Okay I think the problem with making excuses is you're doomed to repeat the you don't you don't feel the gravity. You don't feel the pain of of the impact that you made by by screwing up. 36:47.35 Dr_ Placebo Totally the error. 36:49.43 mikebledsoe Like the if you make an excuse for your yeah if you make an excuse for your error. You're sidestepping a lesson. But if you say look I simply screwed up I dropped the ball I'm now making a commitment to ah you know. I'm I'm making these specific changes in order to ah do it differently moving forward. Awesome! That's what I want to hear. That's why I want to hear from others. That's what I want to hear from myself. That's that's an attitude of of learning that's humility. 37:17.41 Dr_ Placebo Totally no, It's curiosity too right? It's like what can be done differently and it frames it in a in a positive sense so you know right. 37:24.30 mikebledsoe And. 37:29.39 mikebledsoe We're moving forward instead of dwelling on the past we like we acknowledge that this happened but now let's move forward. 37:35.40 Dr_ Placebo Well and that's kind of like the it goes back to the sacrifice or the martyr thing right? you you almost feel like you need to punish yourself a little bit and say how bad you were but it doesn't really do anybody and especially if you're like managing people you you kind of just want to be like man that's like wholly irrelevant. Really doesn't Matter. It's really just about what you can do moving forward differently that will make it so this does not happen in the future right. 37:56.50 mikebledsoe I Think ah. 38:01.89 mikebledsoe Yeah I think I think the pain that we inflict on ourselves through the guilt can can help make the lesson stick like oh I don't want to feel like that again. So. 38:13.70 Dr_ Placebo Well, totally man, you know shame can drive a culture in a big way. Um, and I know I've said it on the podcast before but 1 of the cultures that I find really interesting and awesome in a lot of ways is Japan where there's a really strong culture. Of honoring tradition and shame. Also, you know there's a lot less homeless people there because it's kind of a shameful thing and there's also a lot less ah broad creativity of brand new stuff. But ah surplus. Of refining old stuff. You know so they might not invent a rocket ship but when someone else does they'll make that rocket ship better than anything else because they'll have you know 10 generations of rocket scientists running the family business and trying to just. Make those marginal improvements. So I think you know shame can be a great motivator ah certainly I gravitate toward love being a motivator right so joyful expression of this ah weird. Black box algorithm that I am you know take what I got and and let it out there like you know, let it go basically um, kind of like we were talking about um service minus attachment. Basically so you do your thing but you're not. 39:42.47 mikebledsoe I. 39:46.70 Dr_ Placebo Super attached to the result or or yourself as the procurer of that service. 39:53.71 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, all right moving on moving on in this journal see so I was asked for. We went on a a silent hike for a couple hours and ah. 39:57.90 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 40:11.68 mikebledsoe We're We're asked the question, the prompt to consider while we walk and then you know Journal when we get back and before we get out the door I started making a list of ways in which I don't show up as my highest self um or you just sit look as how do you show up in a. 40:25.60 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 40:31.21 mikebledsoe And the ways that you don't prefer or you you end up regretting I guess so these are these are the ways in which I am not showing up as my highest self when I am looking for acceptance by others when I seek stimulation over solitude. That's where I got that. 40:47.62 Dr_ Placebo Another more. 40:48.29 mikebledsoe Ah, when I fail to communicate my boundaries Well when I lack a hierarchy of values. Ah, and when I'm concerned with not looking bad. 41:01.96 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, those are good. Um, what was the prompt again. It was just go on this quiet hike and then Journal at the end. 41:08.92 mikebledsoe Not yeah that well we were to consider this question in which way am I not showing up as my highest self and then 2 hour yeah Yeah 41:18.94 Dr_ Placebo Okay, so now they provided that yeah that was actually the the thing I thought ah before when you're talking about what decisions will I regret. That's like the same. That's the positive way to say that. What? what would your highest self do here like and how how big a gap is there. Can you repeat that question one more time I'm going to write it I'm going to have ah my friends around here do that with me sometime same seems like a cool idea. 41:36.30 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 41:47.73 mikebledsoe Cool, um in which way am I not showing up as my highest self. 41:51.94 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 41:56.20 mikebledsoe Everyone out everyone at home gets to and get a couple chances write it down themselves all right? Everyone you got a homework expect you to fill this out I mean 2 3 hours I like that. 42:05.74 Dr_ Placebo How how long was the silent hike. That's pretty nice. 42:15.90 mikebledsoe You know what I found when I first got out there is like um actually felt overstimated coming in. Ah and I met several of the guys for the first time and everybody was wanting to talk and I was There was a part of me that was going man I really just wish this was a silent retreat I would like. 42:42.23 Dr_ Placebo Ah, oh man, that's so funny to hear from you did. 42:47.20 mikebledsoe Ah, yeah, yeah, so I'm I'm actually going to suggest a monzol about ah putting together. A I would love to do like a group hunting trip where the first 2 of three days is in complete silence. Only. Like a noble silence. You know I could ask you to like help me with something or or could you get the fuck out of the way or whatever it is or you know you you can you can state what you need in the moment but I don't yeah yeah. 43:10.25 Dr_ Placebo But right. 43:15.72 Dr_ Placebo Could wear a little wear a little chalkboards. 43:23.90 mikebledsoe But ah, yeah, minimize the just the bullshitting interactions and yeah I would love to do like a two day and I would love to do as strangers I would love to go hunting with people I've never met before spend the first two days silent and then the third day because then I I think it would be really fun to. Because what your mind's gonna do is create all these stories about who this person is you know why? they do the thing they do, you're gonna create all of it and then you're gonna talk to them on a third day and they're gonna break all of it and you're gonna go oh my imagination is nuts. 43:46.16 Dr_ Placebo Right? one? ah. 43:58.76 Dr_ Placebo Totally well and as it relates to the dog thing. You know they don't speak English Um, they they pick up on your emotions and your postures and I know I've said it before even on the show but I remember you. 44:06.20 mikebledsoe You don't say. 44:15.95 Dr_ Placebo Said to me like dude maybe ten years ago or something like don't don't listen to the words people are saying just watch how they're being and so I started doing this thing where I mean I was tuning out like I wasn't listening to the words I was a really bad listener but I was just watching people's postures their hand movements. 44:21.48 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 44:35.80 Dr_ Placebo And it it was like the it was like the teacher and Charlie Brown it was like wah walk walk walk walk walk walk walk and I was just listening to the musicality of the voice and all these different things and I would imagine if you are meeting people for the first time and you can't. Introduce yourself like that is such a trip because now you're going to be reverting to these primal instincts of like sizing people up, you're going to pay really close attention to people's eyes and I bet most people have never even ah. Come close to a situation like that I don't think I've ever been part of a group where we didn't introduce ourselves for two days like that's almost psychotic actually when you think about it. Everybody's got like guns and no one saying anything and they've never met before. I mean I don't want you to like give up on this dream but it is a sweet recipe for fucking disaster. 45:35.28 mikebledsoe You know I'll try it out with guys I know first? Well we'll baby step our way into this find a few guys that are willing to do a silent hunting retreat and we'll go from there all like let's dig in this puppy journal. 45:49.53 Dr_ Placebo Um, awesome dude I like the silent hike I like the silent hike thing. That's a cool idea. Well. 45:57.89 mikebledsoe I did a whole day I took 2 guys up to I was up in Idaho and was in the sawtooth mountains and we did like ah man it was like a 12 hour maybe maybe thirteen fourteen hours 46:12.50 Dr_ Placebo Was that a cattle drive or something. Wow. 46:13.86 mikebledsoe Ah, not not just hiking up. The mountain started started at the bottom wearing shorts and it was hot and got up to the snow and basically just popped a little microdose and went fasted So all I brought was water. 46:24.60 Dr_ Placebo Um, how cool. 46:30.75 Dr_ Placebo Sweet. 46:33.13 mikebledsoe And and we did a silent up and I and I ah I was in charge of the hike there was 3 of us I was like we can talk on the way down and and I I started hoofing. Yeah and we started hoofing it down and these guys were just hilarious. 46:44.45 Dr_ Placebo Ah I like I like that a lot too that. 46:52.13 mikebledsoe Just talking about candy bars like because we were fasted. They weren't used to any of this stuff. So the idea of like hiking silent fast. It was incredibly novel to them. So yeah. 47:05.80 Dr_ Placebo It's crazy how much extra calories you're packing on you Even if you're a lean person check out, check out the math sometime like for those who are every you got to fast, you got to try it Out. It's so it's Stupid. You just you just shut up. And you don't eat for a while and it will heal you more than like 99% of the bullshit out there. But. 47:25.66 mikebledsoe It is. It is the dude you just give your system a break. All you got to do is give your system a break and it'll fix itself for for most things. 47:37.20 Dr_ Placebo Matt Imagine if you just ah had headphones playing music all the time. That's like the equivalent of digesting food all the time and it's it's just a different sense right. 47:53.18 mikebledsoe Yeah, 4 47:54.61 Dr_ Placebo You don't give yourself a chance. Um, but some people are afraid they're like oh what'll happen am I going to like break down too much muscle or something like that like that like it'll happen in a fucking week I mean some some sure whatever but like a lean person has like one hundred thousand calories 48:05.22 mikebledsoe It's all guy. Yeah dudes are well, there's um, sal. 48:14.41 mikebledsoe Yeah. 48:14.74 Dr_ Placebo Storage on them like ah, a lean, a lean man of average size has like a hundred thousand extra calories conveniently distributed mostly in the center mass of their body. It's it's really good design like we would all be dead if it didn't work this way. 48:33.34 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, it's there for sure. There sal sell from over at mine pump. Um, if you're familiar with the mine pump guys but they do like um, kind of like. 48:36.24 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 48:44.74 Dr_ Placebo Do they like take ah do they like take pre-workouts and play chess or something. 48:49.55 mikebledsoe Yeah, well, they're like ah I would I would they're the closest thing the barbell shrugged but more for like the the aesthetic world whereas we were more in like the performance and they're They're really great guys I've been on their show a couple times they've been on mine. They're fun. 48:56.33 Dr_ Placebo All. 49:05.75 mikebledsoe And 1 of the guys on there I know for a period of time was doing a 72 hour fast once a month for the purpose of building more muscle so there's just like you want to train really hard if you want to grow muscle if you actually starve yourself a protein. There's a super compensation that occurs. So. 49:09.84 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 49:24.78 Dr_ Placebo It's like occlusion training you cut off the flow and then you release it and the floodgates open same deal. 49:25.55 mikebledsoe It's yeah. Yeah, so I I think that for anyone who is concerned about that because I was actually you know for a lot of the hunts that I do we we fast coming in and one of my friends young younger guy. He was like yeah but you know I was just like worry about losing muscle I'm like you know. Ah, 72 hour fast done right? and when you reintroduce food you could actually put more muscle on because of that just watched all the all the gears in his head had to change direction and and ah yeah, but it's true. 50:02.81 Dr_ Placebo Plus like what if you did lose a little bit of muscle. You think no one's going to love you after that Jesus Fucking Christ like. 50:13.29 mikebledsoe Oh obviously? yeah, well its problem is like I mean you've experienced this is you get praise. It's like oh man, you got a 6 pack. Oh man like get all this praise like well that's must be why people like me. 50:14.84 Dr_ Placebo I Mean they won't love you as much. Obviously now you're fucking Scrawny bitch who's going to love you now. 50:27.16 Dr_ Placebo I. Totally totally I mean I feel like I've said this so many times but I would lift a really big weight over my head. Let's say and people would be like hey Wow Max We Really like that. 50:33.21 mikebledsoe And then you take that away like oh no, one's gonna love me now. 50:47.85 Dr_ Placebo Can you lift a bigger one be like fuck. Yeah, are you going to love me more if I do and they're like yeah I'm like great I'll do that. 50:53.75 mikebledsoe I mean it's super simple if I put that I think about a year ago I put ah ah a Instagram throwback video of me squatting like I don't know what it was like four 25 for reps or something like that the bars bouncing and shit. 51:04.75 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, yeah. 51:10.32 mikebledsoe And I got like almost a record breaking amount of likes on that you know and I basically like I basically said in the the what's it called the caption I said in the caption of like yeah this was like peak me hating myself. Ah and like. 51:12.43 Dr_ Placebo Oh yeah. 51:25.57 Dr_ Placebo Totally. 51:29.21 mikebledsoe This is all the things I've done a change and all that you know what ended up in some of the comments people actually read the caption but a lot of comments are like yeah man that's big weight I'm like you like let the fuck is going on. Love me. Um. 51:38.64 Dr_ Placebo Good job and you're like they love me. They really love Me. You know it reminds me of why Envy is such a bummer ah number one. It's the only of the deadly Sins. You can't have any fun at ah which I've always thought was really cool and the no no lust is great. Gluttony. 51:58.61 mikebledsoe Ah, interesting. Yeah, there's not really a payoff for it right? like people use it people use it for motivation. Yeah. 52:08.13 Dr_ Placebo Lust gluttony sloth I mean that's that's like a great day as far as what I'm concerned but but like ah yeah, ah today is gluttony day. Ah but like envy day is is the worst and here's why it's extra bad though. 52:13.20 mikebledsoe I Set aside days for that. Yeah yeah. 52:26.60 Dr_ Placebo So it's funny because it's not that fun but also with envy we're only envying like 1 little bit a fraction of someone's life where we're not envious of the whole thing. Because if we were we would do that same shit ourselves like nobody can see in that video all of the sacrifices you were making and even at the time. Ah maybe you were self-aware enough to be like hey you know I I did this. 52:47.35 mikebledsoe Yeah. 53:03.40 Dr_ Placebo But you you guys probably don't want this in fact, ah you know like my I don't know if this is true. But for me it It was a lot of the time like my body hurts a lot. Um dude like that's probably the. 53:12.00 mikebledsoe I was in so much pain. So I had to smoke during that period of time I was smoking weed every night to fall asleep I remember getting in bed and just like my body was hot. My my shoulders were throbbing like like things were throbbing. 53:20.27 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 53:26.58 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 53:30.88 mikebledsoe And I'd be lay in bed and then my my ex wifefe would be next to me and she could just feel me she' like babe go smoke some weed you need to go to sleep so just turn into a nightly I smoked weed every night for for years. 53:35.21 Dr_ Placebo E. 53:46.13 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, totally I mean that's a good option as far as options go but that's what I mean about the the cherry pick Envy is like we're we're envious cherry pickers. We're like oh man look at that guy's house I'm like yeah that guy. 53:47.91 mikebledsoe Just for pain relief. 53:56.49 mikebledsoe Yeah. 54:04.81 Dr_ Placebo Went to medical school. He worked 60 hour weeks and then he worked 80 hour weeks and now he finally has this big house and and and you're only going to be envy it like it's it's insane right? It's the same thing with us lifting these heavy weights we're like wow I wish I could do that I'm like no, you don't. 54:15.22 mikebledsoe Right. 54:21.36 mikebledsoe Yeah. 54:24.21 Dr_ Placebo A no, you don't because otherwise you'd be doing it and B you don't understand the sacrifices that are being made here. You know it's ah it's hardly fair. But what's funny about that too is ah that's also what inflames people's desires the most like. 54:30.27 mikebledsoe Yeah. 54:43.12 Dr_ Placebo I I was honest, um, like I I was saying like hey man I I train a lot I do ah olympic weightlifting then I do gymnastics then I do a crossfit workout at the end then I go to Jujitsu and then in the evenings I do moyai for 2 hours training six days a week I'm running a business I'm a 23 year old absolute maniac investing all of my time into it and I'm like here's this workout and people are like yeah I want that too but they don't really is my point they just want like. 55:16.38 mikebledsoe Now. 55:20.43 Dr_ Placebo Like that Mark Twain quote a classic is something that everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to read. He's got some good ones? Yeah, all right. 55:31.21 mikebledsoe Accurate. Ah I think he was ah somebody somebody called him the cause I was describing Mark Twain as someone who had never really knew much about him or read about him and and as I as I was describing. 55:39.76 Dr_ Placebo And pretty sardonic guy. 55:47.70 mikebledsoe They go. Oh he's probably the Joe Rogan of of that time I go you know what? I think you're probably right like that because he was he was funny. He he was he was doing a lot of writing and I yeah was kind of like comedy of that of that era I mean and and. 55:56.21 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 56:01.53 Dr_ Placebo Um, he was a humorist that's actually the biggest humor award. We have is the Mark Twain ah prize right? There are some good ah acceptance. There are some good acceptance speeches. 56:07.53 mikebledsoe Oh I didn't even know that I learned something new about Mark Twain today the more I learned about that guy the more of a fan I become just wild. 56:20.39 Dr_ Placebo Ah, because it's it's you know some people who are just absolute um juggernauts comedy-wise but the Mark Twain prize is like a lifetime achievement award for comedy. So you know chappee has 1 Eddie Murphy David Letterman these guys like. 56:30.67 mikebledsoe Now. 56:38.20 Dr_ Placebo Really? ah, really skilled at the craft of humor and what I say is humor drops the guard like Lindsay has noticed that there's basically no conversation I have with someone where I don't a try really hard to make them laugh and b. Actually make them laugh because I don't I don't want things to be serious like that's the last type of situation I want I want to have things be be lighthearted and and humor is a good way to do that. 57:07.74 mikebledsoe We go it. Loosens people up, you have you use humor it loosens up the mind people get up catch people off guard willing to entertain new ideas and this is why comedy is such an important thing in society and before you we had the modern comedians you have. 57:17.42 Dr_ Placebo Right. 57:27.46 mikebledsoe Want to go back far enough. You got the court Jester and I think a lot of times people think about the court jester as just some fool who knows some you know can juggle and shit. But in ah some traditions you know it's told that. The jester was there to keep the king in check the gesture was the only one that could make fun of the king right? and so it was like yeah and. 57:47.30 Dr_ Placebo Right? Compartmentalized you can make fun of me and you're going to do it in a way that I feel okay about it. But but when you're when you're Queen or something is like you you drink too much. 57:56.63 mikebledsoe Yeah. 58:03.62 Dr_ Placebo Or whatever he's like fuck you queen I'm the king god damn it. But when the jester is like hey Mr. King guy can I fill up your wine flask again. Oh it's already empty. What does a pre you know Dadada whatever. 58:17.26 mikebledsoe Ah, yeah, yeah, you want to break out the puppy journal. 58:22.30 Dr_ Placebo Oh yeah, um I think the the main thing is ah compartmentalizing on on every level like literally you put them into a compartment you have nap time. Compartmentalized you have playtime compartmentalized. You have mealtime compartmentalized like the more you compartmentalize the lives of those puppies the easier it is like they know when we're outside. It's outside time like we've had them two weeks now and we're batting like I would say 98% ah of potties outside in the same place and I feel like that's really good. We've had almost no issues. No accidents inside the house which I'm real pleased about and when it's nap time. They go into the pen and when it's food time they come out and they get their food and then we pick the stuff up and wash it out because otherwise it's going to be crawling with ants. So everything gets compartmentalized. Um shoes can't live on the floor anymore. So that has to be in a compartment has to be out of reach so it's it's forcing me to get way tighter with my organization. So I think that's a positive I mean look once again like you could look at my story from the outside in and think. 59:57.91 Dr_ Placebo I'm a certain way but it's just been like a disorganized mess of an insane guy who just happened to be very ambitious and motivated right? So it doesn't just because it like worked doesn't mean I did it well like I didn't you know what? I mean. 01:00:16.59 mikebledsoe Ah, that that resonates like so so like how did you do it I'm like don't do it the way I did it. 01:00:16.88 Dr_ Placebo It's ah yeah, totally men. Yeah, right? But what's funny is ah like instinctually they they want to do it that way because it's a proven model and you're like no dude do do anything but the way that I did it. 01:00:30.17 mikebledsoe Right. 01:00:35.71 Dr_ Placebo Do absolutely anything but that but anyway ah compartmentalizing is huge I already mentioned ah demonstration is greater than explanation I think that equation pretty much rings true for just about everything. 01:00:55.28 Dr_ Placebo Um, it really reminds you? What's important like the live like we had to take the puppies. Ah 1 of them into the vet once already to the emergency room and and it's a very binary type of thing. Yeah puppy was really. Lethargic ah pissed herself is very scary I was surprised how much I loved these little fuckers already. Ah and it was like Okay, we either relax, chill out and ah, don't worry about it or we take her to the emergency room right now. Because living in limbo of like ooh. It's kind of scary. It's kind of bad is it's almost like ah an almost emergency is the worst fucking thing ever. It's like buying fire insurance. But then worrying every day that your house will burn down and I feel like that's how a lot of people. 01:01:47.69 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 01:01:52.71 Dr_ Placebo Live their lives. Um, you know insurance is another thing we could talk about another time but that's not really related to. We did get puppy insurance which is a fucking scam and a half. Ah oh yeah I mean you know it's. 01:02:07.88 mikebledsoe I've never heard of that before. 01:02:11.48 Dr_ Placebo Just like anything else. It's ah basically a probability and a fee schedule. Whatever and so if you're going to buy puppy Insurance. You probably would also be well- served to buy some extra puppy food so you have like insurance against like a shortage in puppy food supply Anyway, whatever. Not not more insurance. Ah yeah, yeah, that's actually what it is. Yeah, Ah, it's well because I looked at the fee schedule basically and I looked at like what the payment is versus what they will pay. 01:02:31.27 mikebledsoe Is like Health insurance for puppies her Why you say it's a you say it's a scam. 01:02:48.97 mikebledsoe Right? And like dental insurance. 01:02:50.53 Dr_ Placebo For each ailment. It doesn't seem like a very good deal basically to me. Ah, you know they have these maximums for certain things and I didn't think those maximums were very high like I I like to have insurance. 01:03:04.70 mikebledsoe Why did you get it. 01:03:09.10 Dr_ Placebo Um, because it is pretty inexpensive and I have had a lot of people tell me who have had dogs that it was worth it and um, so like basically it's a gamble essentially like ah having health insurance or not um. 01:03:16.74 mikebledsoe E. 01:03:27.38 Dr_ Placebo You know I I prefer to bet on myself. Basically so um, you know if there's a catastrophe great but everything else just out of pocket. Ah puppy lessons. Ah first one is what you pet you get. 01:03:37.12 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 01:03:45.37 Dr_ Placebo Which is ah kind of like a derivative of what is rewarded is repeated So that's a big thing. 01:03:49.95 mikebledsoe I was I my mind jumped to Monkey pox. 01:03:53.92 Dr_ Placebo What you pet you get? Wow I Don't think they can get Monkey pox. 01:04:03.55 mikebledsoe A greyhound got monkey pox in France recently from a couple of men who have sex with men. Um, but ah god it's a real story. Yep yep, well well you know that. 01:04:07.99 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 01:04:11.85 Dr_ Placebo Is that a real story that you're telling me how do you know this? Wow wild. 01:04:21.70 mikebledsoe Monkey pox narrative right now is it's it's mainly just men who have sex with men. They're not saying gay men on on the news anymore. Ah, and then and then they report oh there's there's ah 13 cases of children getting it. 01:04:28.55 Dr_ Placebo E. 01:04:40.31 mikebledsoe Oh it must not be sexually transmitted. Ah and then and then there's ah, there's a dog in France who's owned by a couple of gay guys and the dog gets it and they say it's concentrated around its mouth and belly. 01:04:41.84 Dr_ Placebo Oh boy Well boy. 01:04:59.39 mikebledsoe So it must be from ah you know, just close contact skin to skin contact. It's not ah well we didn't ask the gender that the reporter didn't ask the gender of the dog they screwed up. 01:05:04.29 Dr_ Placebo Maybe the dog is a homosexual I don't know it's a gay dog I don't know oh God Yeah, you should definitely not fuck your dog. 01:05:20.92 mikebledsoe Ah. 01:05:22.41 Dr_ Placebo I didn't even need to own dogs before I knew that. 01:05:29.95 mikebledsoe All right? all right? all right? Ah what you pat you get not Monkey box. Ok the pumpy principles. 01:05:33.58 Dr_ Placebo Ah, so I have I have the puppy principles right? which is ah patience positivity and playfulness and I think patience is really important. It's ah it's a little creature that doesn't know english. It doesn't know the difference between what you wanted to do what you don't want it to do and you you cannot get impatient with a dog or another person you can only get impatient with yourself right? You can get frustrated with yourself that things aren't already a certain way for you. It's like ah. I say there ain't no use wishing words you know oh I wish it were like this well wish in 1 hand pissing the other and see which fills up first. Yeah yeah, so. 01:06:20.50 mikebledsoe Ah, another way of looking at it. Well Okay, yeah I like that's that's totally different than what I was thinking. But yeah I love wishi
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Does your back hurt? Is work literally a pain in your neck? Find out from MEMIC’s Director of Ergonomics Allan Brown if workplace ergonomics could be the culprit to some of your most common aches and pains. Good ergonomics is fitting the work to the worker, not the other way around. If you sit down at a workstation or desk or sit in a new vehicle and you don’t adjust anything, then you have to adapt yourself to the machine or tool. If you don’t make adjustments, then you may be exposing yourself to unsafe situations and blind spots. Pete Koch: Hello, listeners, and welcome to the Safety Experts podcast. Does your back hurt? Is work literally a pain in your neck? On today's episode, we're gonna find out if workplace ergonomics could be the culprit to some of your most common aches and pains. The Safety Expert podcast is presented by MEMIC, a leading worker's compensation provider based on the East Coast. A new episode of the podcast drops every two weeks featuring interviews with leaders in the field, top executives, MEMIC staff and other industry experts discussing how safety applies to all aspects of our lives. I'm your host, Peter Koch. And for the past 17 years, I've been working for MEMIC as a safety expert within the hospitality and construction industries. What I realized is safety impacts every part of each position that you have or tasks that you do. Yeah, sure, you can get lucky, but there's just no way to be successful in the long term without safety. There was a time when I believed that safety was important, but it was something extra that had to be done for those most dangerous jobs and in some cases an unnecessary concern that would slow you down. The realization that a safe job is also a productive job is when it came when I was clearing ice from towers here one winter in New England. The tools that I had to keep me from falling also allowed me to work hands free in a better position and with a lot less fatigue during the shift than some of my co-workers. So, as the shifts rolled on, I got more done. I didn't go any faster. I didn't just slow down as fast and was able to move more confidently in the environment. And it was a few years later that I realized that if we had the same tools and training, that level of productivity could have been multiplied. So, for today's episode of putting the person at the center of work or industrial ergonomics, I'm going to speak with Al Brown, the director of ergonomics at MEMIC, to better understand what ergonomics is and how it impacts our business. Al has been with MEMIC for more than a decade and helping hundreds of businesses get a handle on ergonomics in the workplace. So, Al, welcome to the podcast today. Al Brown: Thank you Pete. Happy to be here. Pete Koch: Awesome. I really appreciate you coming down. Today we wanted to focus on ergonomics in the industrial environment. So manual material handling, order picking and even housekeeping. But before we get into all those topics and unpack ergonomics, I want you to just give us a little bit of your history here at MEMIC and how you got to where you are as the Director of Ergonomics. Al Brown: Sure, Pete, thanks. I'm actually a physical therapist with a safety background and started onsite industry prior to being at MEMIC, which we when we were at industry, we would often go and they were manual material handling industries, mostly shipyards, retail, distribution centers. And the clinic was there. And if someone had an injury, we would often walk back with the person to the job to look at where they felt they were having problems. So sometimes we would re-engineer and we would analyze it and then re-engineer out that particular task or modify it or educate the person a better way to do it then we'd do the treatment. It was very successful, and it seemed to be a win, win, win for everybody involved. That led me to Maine Employers Mutual Insurance Company and who partners with industry, and I felt the skills that I had learned in my previous life as an onsite physical therapist were well tailored for this type of industry. And it's great because we do partner with industry and we do get to go into industry. Look at, you know, there might be high exposure in particular area and we just have a different set of eyes. So, I tend to look at things from a physiological standpoint. We have a lot of safety professionals onboard. Sometimes I have to defer to them about safety issues, but I tend to look more at the human being and the ergonomics of work environments. And that's what has led me to where I am today. Pete Koch: To where you are right here today at the podcast. So, you talked about ergonomics. Let's define ergonomics. So, what is it? And then can ergonomics be tied to worker discomfort or pain in the workplace? Al Brown: Sure. I mean, ergonomics, the term ergo it's looking at work and the mechanics of work from the human perspective. What are the tolerances of a human being? What are the reach distances? When you look at, for example, human beings, probably 5'1" to 6'2" represent about 90 percent of the population. Anything outside that becomes an outlier and so design a lot of times within the workplace is for that range of folks. Look at clothing, you know, you get outside that range and it becomes extra tall or petite. Look at anything, look at door design in terms of people going in and out. Old homes have very short doors because there wasn't really a standard. Now there's a standard so that the majority, 99.9 percent of the population can go through the door without ducking. So, this has been it actually started with Department of Defense looking at tool and equipment and aircraft design because of issues they had, and it has morphed into more things. Another example is going down the interstate, you'll see a green and silver sign because that's the best unlit colors for the human eye to see. So again, these are all a little subtle inroad of ergonomics, but we tend to overlay it within the industry where we look at what are the tasks at hand, what are the critical demands of that job? How do we measure those and are things that are they outside the range of tolerance for the human being? And we understand that tolerance with human beings and there are things we can do to bring it back inside the tolerance level, be it automating or just changing the process. Pete Koch: So really the effect on the job, on the human person, and then how to redesign the job or the task or the environment they're in to fit that person. Al Brown: Right. We're trying to fit good ergonomics, is fitting the work to the worker, not the other way around. Oftentimes, you know, you sit down at the desk, you sit down in a manufacturing plant, you sit in a car. If you don't adjust anything, then you the worker has to adapt to the machine or the tool or whatever and often creates awkward postures, awkward reaches. Where in fact, good ergonomics, that tool should be fit to you, just like in your car. You adjust the seat, you adjust the mirror, you prepare yourself to drive so that you can safely see and drive and reach the gas pedals in a comfortable position. Pete Koch: So, when we look at the design, either designing the task or environment specific to the person who's doing it or providing adjustments to allow the worker to make those adjustments real time, like the car that you would. Al Brown: With adjustments, you can meet a greater range of people. Pete Koch: Yes. Al Brown: Unfortunately, like in the old manufacturing plants, the tool and die. Pete Koch: One size fits all. Al Brown: 1940 equipment, it's one size fits all. So, it's a bit more of a challenge when you deal with older tooling. Modern day tooling, we tend to see a lot more of that adjustability to adapt to different statured workers. Pete Koch: Yeah, it's interesting you bring that up. One of my first jobs back when I was 14 years old, I was working in a manufacturing facility and my job was to bring the dyes from the dye room onto the factory floors, to switch the dyes out for the metal stamping process. And so, all the machines, it's one size fits all, but it wasn't one-person size. So, you had someone like yourself who's more than 6' standing at a particular task and the work is down by their belt. And then you've got the little old lady who is there; who is 5'6" or 4'6" right, just there. And her shoulders, I remember this specifically cause it just a wonderful woman. Really kind of was friendly to me, which was not what most of the people were when the little 14-year-old kid is tooling around the factory floor. But her shoulders were at the level where the tooling was happening. So her arms were basically, she spent most of her day with her hands at shoulder level. I didn't realize then what an issue that could be. But now I can't even imagine spending even half an hour or 15 minutes, 10 minutes with your arms at that level. There'll be a lot of fatigue and challenge with it. Al Brown: Energy expenditure for her was exponentially much higher than someone where the tooling or the work area was at elbow level. Pete Koch: And that wasn't all that long ago even. So, there's been leaps and bounds made in a lot of the new machines that are out there. But we still find a lot of tools, a lot of machines that have been built in the ‘50s or the ‘60s or the ‘70s and even in the ‘80s where they're not as adjustable. So we're gonna get into some of those pieces. So, let's talk about risk factors, because without understanding risk factors, I think it's hard to understand how a particular machine or a task would affect the worker negatively. So, what are some of the risk factors that can cause or, if you can notice them, predict future discomfort? Al Brown: Risk factors can range. You know, there's exertion. Heavy lifting that one is obvious. And the perception is that's the cause for a lot of things. And in fact, as we go through this podcast you may discover that everything is not what it appears, that it's not necessarily always the heavy lift, but exertion, repetition. How often am I doing this task, how often is it repeated? In the manufacturing world it's not one widget, it can be a thousand widgets an hour. So just repeated motions, so that you create fatigue and exhaustion, muscle tendons, ligaments. So, it's exertion, repetition. Pete Koch: Force was there. Al Brown: Yes, kind of exertion. Awkward posture, yes. So extended awkward reaches, just like the person you were talking about earlier in the podcast where it was an extended awkward reach. So, when the body is in those awkward positions, you can have a considerable reduction in the ability to generate force. So that shoulder on that the woman you were talking about earlier, she's going to have to generate a lot more force or a lot a greater percentage of her force that she can generate in that awkward position in order to do the task compared to the person that was standing in more of a working neutral position. So, the force requirements or the percentage of force required is much greater for her. So, she's almost maxing out every time she does something at that level. So, you're looking at exertion, awkward postures, repetition. Those seem to be the high sort of risk factors that we are looking at when we look at a work environment. Pete Koch: So, when I look at my job as I'm looking through a whole cycle of the tasks that I'm going to do. So, start to finish. I'm looking at so where are the person's position versus where the work is positioned? How many times they have to do that? How much force do I have to exert in order to get it done, whether it be pressing a button or moving a raw material into a machine, removing the raw material from or produce machine material from the machine into something else. All those pieces that you're looking at. Al Brown: All those pieces you're looking at, you know, where's the workflow? Where is it? You know, we try to get folks to keep work between knee and shoulder. Pete Koch: Okay. Al Brown: And we'll probably get into that a little bit later on. But you try to keep that sort of your power zone. That's where when we look at a lot of the research that's been done out there, trying to keep that work in that area is of greater benefit. When you start to go beyond that, for example anything, I always go into industry and say, "Don't put anything on the ground that you don't have to." Placing it on the ground, particularly if it's a light thing, our perception is no big deal. I'll throw it on the ground, and I'll bend over to pick it up. And bending over to pick it up, oftentimes it's a bend at the waist, a reach down and a pickup with the hand. And you, when if you can visualize this, the buttock and the head end up on the same plane for the reach down to that object. And we refer to that as the butthead maneuver because the forces on the back often exceed what the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health deems sort of a safe limit. And all you're doing is picking up a small object. It might be a pen, piece of paper, the scrubbing bubbles if you're in housekeeping, whatever the case may be. That you don't realize it's the little things that cause a lot of the increased force on the low back. Pete Koch: And that movement to the ground to pick something up from the ground is habitual, really. That movement, the bend from the waist to lift something from the ground comes more from habit. Because if we were going to lift something that was very heavy. So you take that piece of paper or the squirt bottle or the spray bottle, that might weigh a pound more or less. That's a pretty easy pick. But, if I'm going to pick up 60 pounds of concrete or one hundred and twenty pounds of something, or a bag of whatever from the ground, I'm going to do more because I have to exert more force to do that. But what you're saying is that you can exert just as much force on your back picking up something small when you've got the butthead effect going on. So, your head and your butt are in line and I go to lift something light up, I'm putting a lot of force on the lower portion of my back and all I'm doing is picking up that one piece. And I'm doing it from habit. So heavy thing I might think about more, but that little thing that I don't think about that I'm going to bend over at my waist to pick up is what's really going to cause the bigger problem, especially over time, is that correct?. Al Brown: Right. And again, we're always searching for that big thing. And your perception's right that typically when there's a big thing to lift, people are more cautious about lifting because in their mind, it's a heavy object. So, I have to be careful how I do this. Not everybody is good at proper lifting technique. But we all pause when we look at that thing and say that's gonna be heavy. And we either choose to lift it and we get pretty close to using good technique or we get help, or we use a device to lift it. The little object where everybody is guilty of just bending over to pick that up. Think of this. How many times when you're making a bed? Do you think a housekeeper just takes some sort of reaches out with her arm to sling the sheet out over like a double, or a queen, or king-sized bed instead of walking around the other side? It's just really quick and easy. But that's a huge load on the back and the shoulder, because you know what? In today's work environment, we probably see backs and shoulders kind of lead the way in regard to injuries. So, both of them are exposed to these awkward heavy loads; shoulder more, you know, when you're working overhead, backs, the little things. Pete Koch: Mm hmm. And statistically, shoulders and backs from a soft tissue injury are not only leading the way from a frequency standpoint, but they also are quite expensive over time for our clients and also for the individual and not so much expensive from a cost perspective. But it could have an expense on the pain side for someone and not just at work, but it could be a home. If my back hurts all the time, my quality of life starts to change substantially. I know a number of my friends have sustained back injuries, whether it be through work or play, and they've gone through periods where they've had chronic back pain for weeks or months at a time. And it changes personality, it changes how they work or their job and how they can work at their job. But it also changes what they like to do outside of work as well. So I think it's important to understand these risk factors and not just because it's a workplace thing, but it's because if we can protect what we have, we can do more for longer with what we have and the things that we enjoy, whether it be being outdoors hiking, whether it be something active or even inactive. If you have low back pain, sitting in a chair watching a movie can be excruciating over the long term. Al Brown: It's funny, you know, you talk about back pain and again, going back to that, little things can cause back pain. Education is so important when it comes to those types of injuries, shoulders and back. And again, that's kind of one of the key elements of when we go into industry, we try to work with industry to understand that, you know, for example, a back injury, you sitting will place more force on a back than you and I standing right now. And it can be up to 50 percent more force on a back in terms of disk pressure, if we were to measure that. If you look at some of the studies done by Al Makinson and the folks in the past, they actually have documented that, you know, sitting places more force on the back. So, you going home with a sore back and thinking, I'm going to sit down and watch a show -- "Oh, my back hurts worse." If you don't understand those nuances, you can actually make things worse. Pete Koch: Yeah, because that that connection between if it hurts, rest it, I mean, it's been driven in our heads for years and years. So, it's good that you go to the doctor. Something hurts. Oh, so take some time, rest, come see me, take some ibuprofen or whatever that is, and the rest is going to be good for you. But many times the rest that he's talking about or she's talking about as a doctor is not that my back hurts after work and when I go spend the rest of the day seated to take the load off, because what we're you're actually saying is that if it's a back issue and it's a disc issue, you're putting more force on your back sitting in that chair, or sitting on that sofa, or on that couch, or in that movie theater seat than you would be standing or even walking. Al Brown: 30 to 40 years ago the treatment of choice was, you know, if you had a rupture or herniated disc was to put you to bed for two weeks. And the problem was that, you know, again, we live in a world of gravity and you take muscle tissue, tendons, ligaments and all those structures in your body and they actually begin to decondition. So, after two weeks, the core musculature, which actually gives our body stability and the back stability have become weakened. So, if you can think of a radio tower and these tethered wires that stabilize it, we've actually loosened those all up, so we've actually made the back more prone to further injury or recurring injury down the road. So today we've gotten smarter and people are much more active, and they begin to understand that, you know, the mechanism of injury and the things that kind of help improve health and start to allow for the rehabilitative process. Pete Koch: Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about lifting. Because lifting is a task that gets done in every job. It doesn't matter what it is. You could be seated at a desk and you will lift something. It could be the telephone, it could be the stapler, it could be the mouse, whatever it is. It could be a book off a shelf. Or you might be in manufacturing and you're lifting material or you're in housekeeping and your lifting laundry or product or whatever. There's lifting everywhere. So, you'd mentioned before that there are possibly safe lifting limits that one could follow, but depending on how you lift, it might not be quite so safe. So, can you speak to that a little bit, what those safe lifting limits might be and how it all works. Al Brown: Right. Sure. I mean, it's based on science. Tom Waters back in '91 with a host of other folks, Vern Putz and then some contributing from the folks at University of Michigan, Chaffin, Tom Chaffin, Armstrong collaboratively put together what's called the NIOSH lifting equation. And about 3 years later, they had the modified NIOSH lifting equation. It's an equation you can go online and Google NIOSH lifting equation, but it's based on science and in that equation there's 51 pounds, which is the load constant that is started. And I don't to want to get too deep into the weeds on the science here, but, as industry out there has kind of grabbed on to that number and said that's a safe amount of weight for workers to lift. And here's the deal. It's the load constant that starts the equation. And they figured that that was 99 percent of male, 75 percent of female could safely handle that if these particular factors exist and those factors without, again, getting too deep in the weeds. It's a perfect lift. It's only 10 inches from our center of gravity. It only goes up or down 10 inches. There's no rotation, there's good coupling blah blah blah. That doesn't exist in industry. So, the way the equation works is we begin to look at the other factors. Where's the starting of the lift? Where's the termination of the lift? Is there good coupling, is there rotation in the body? What's the distance? Vertical distance? Horizontal distance? So how far my travelling with it. How far out am I placing it. You know, think about reaching across a pallet and placing something way across a pallet. Well, that's going to be a 20 to 25 inch reach across a pallet to lay a box down. With those increase in critical demands or those increase in exposure, you begin to take that 51 pounds and chisel away at it. And they do that by, they have multipliers. So, it's something less than one. And obviously the higher the critical demand, the smaller that multiplier and it starts cutting that number down so that we can actually look at a job task, put it through the NIOSH lifting equation. And, you know, it might be a 35-pound object. But really, when we get done with the equation, it says that lift is only safe for 99 percent of males and 75 percent of females if it's 14 pounds. Pete Koch: Wow. Al Brown: So, if you think of the 51 pounds, it's probably not a good indicator of what everybody can do within a working environment. You know, NIOSH has actually come out and looked at the healthcare industry and said, "Let's call it 35 pounds." And again, I'm not totally happy. I mean that's a great number. And you know, a good way to feel that is to go out and buy a bag of cat litter or dog food that's in and around that and have people handle it so they can get a sense of what 35 pounds is. It's still Pete, if you think about it, when we go back to that butthead maneuver, that was just a pencil that we were picking. So, it had nothing to do with the weight. So sometimes we get locked in on this weight, but it's those other factors that will impact what is a safe limit. So, you know, just a rule of thumb for industry is to think about nothing below your knees, nothing above the shoulders and 35 pounds. But still, there are other issues you have to think about within those ranges. How far is a person reaching when they're putting things down, that kind of stuff. Pete Koch: So, it comes really it comes down, what affects that 50 pounds or a safe lifting? 51 pounds for safe lifting is all about posture. And it seems that the more awkward the posture is, the harder or the less weight that you are able to lift safely for that 99 percent of males and 75 percent of females. Can you look at it as simply is that? Like the more awkward the posture is, the less weight you're gonna be able to do move safely? Al Brown: Yeah, that's probably it. You know, and again, it's better to keep it simple when you're thinking about it. So, the more awkward the lift, the less force, the less mass, the less weight that that person can safely handle. And you know, you begin to look at, if you're a, an owner of a company, you know, a quick walk or just a walk through and start looking at the job tasks within your industry, as you know, who's what stuff are you putting on the ground? You know? And that's a good start. And then how much is that stuff that I'm putting on the ground? What weight is it? And can I raise that thing up? And it might be simple as instead of having a single pallet on the ground, you double the pallet. So now instead of four to six inches, we're eight to 12 inches, you might triple the pallet so that it actually gets up into that 15 inch about knee height. That's a cheap, easy way to do it. Obviously looking at pallet lifts or a more automated way. But, you know, you start to look for those exposures within industry. Pete Koch: So that concept of keep it off the ground, keep it below your shoulders in that lift. So, I'm looking at lifts between my knees and my shoulders is a good, again, simplistic way to try to limit some of the awkwardness of the posture and how things are going to function. So that's two good pieces. But it's not always the lift from low or high, but it's the reach out that can also cause some of the challenges. So how far can I reach? Where's my, where's my reach to keep it safe? Al Brown: Yeah. I mean, if you think of the primary power zone, we actually have a resource in a chart that actually shows kind of a power zone. You can actually go online too and just Google manual material power zone and you'll actually see it's a graphic. But when you're looking at it arm extended, so staying within that 10 inches from your core out to where your hands are approximated on the thing that you're holding. That's kind of the real power zone. You can extend beyond that maybe out to 15 or so inches. But again, it depends on the mass and weight that you're handling. So, staying within that power, almost elbows at your side is probably the safe zone. So, think about just flexing your elbows and coming to your shoulders or extending down to your knees where your elbows kind of stay in close to your core. That's your safe zone to work. Soon as you go out a little further, it turns into a yellow zone. And then finally, you get out to the no go zone, which is the red zone. Pete Koch: How does, and I might be getting a slightly off topic here, but how does posture, human posture, affect that? So, you know, if I have that forward head posture or I have a slouched posture, how does posture affect my ability to safely lift that that load? Al Brown: Well, think of it this way. You see a forward head posture. For example, if you take your head, which weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 to 15 pounds for every 10 degrees, you tip your head forward. So think about looking at your eye, your cell phone. And we all tend to look down at our cell phones. So, for every 10 degrees, you tip your head forward, you add 10 more pounds of force. So with a head that's tipped forward, 30 degrees, which is kind of almost like your chin down on your chest a little bit, looking down at something instead of 13 pounds, we now have 43 pounds of force that we are adding to our axial skeleton and our ability to hold. So now we've loaded our back up with that head position. And then if we round our shoulders and bring our core forward, we add that much more force and we haven't even initiated a lift. So again, going back to just body posture and where you're located, you can create a huge load on your back just from your body position. Think of a kitchen. Go to the kitchen, and if you look at the bottom of your cabinet in the kitchen, there's a toe kick space and I'm not sure where that was invented, but the toe kick space allows you to almost belly up to the counter and your toes can go in that extra three to four to five inches. And that allows you to stay upright as long as the counter fits you. If it didn't exist, you would have to lean in on that counter. And you've already loaded your back up simply because of that minor little difference. So toe kicks, have a significant role in the world of happy back in the kitchen. Pete Koch: And you can take that into the industrial kitchen also. And I know going into some industrial kitchens, so I have my prep table and I've never been in a kitchen that has enough space. To put things so sometimes you find things that are actually stored at floor level, so you can't get that close because that toe kick space is being filled with something. Stuff. Al Brown: Stuff. If we go, even at a workbench people end up using that area underneath for storage and all of a sudden, they have no toe kick space. So just because of that storing of things there, you've already loaded your back up simply because you have to lean forward into the job. Pete Koch: And that's a pretty interesting part to think about, like most people wouldn't think. They always think about height, like what's the height of the workplace that I have to work at and how close I can get to it makes a big difference, too. Because it will change my ability to stand up straight versus just that little forward posture and even just a few degrees forward as you mentioned, you know, how many pounds of force was it again if I tip my head for again? Al Brown: For every 10 degrees, it's 10 pounds of force, just for the head. We haven't talked about the weight of the core, because those measurements are taken, if you go back and look at the Natkinson research those forces are taken at like L5, S1, the low back area. So, anything that you tip forward of your pelvis, above your pelvis, impacts that disc pressure and like I said it will go up exponentially because we live in a world of gravity, so it's not a one to one relationship. It's like a game of Jenga. The further out you start moving those blocks, the more unstable the stack. And sooner or later, it's going to fall over. Pete Koch: Yeah, that's interesting. If you think about it that way, you're really working like a machine, like a crane, and you take a skilled crane operator, he's always or she's always, take into consideration how far out do I have to have the stick? What's the weight of my load? Where does it have to swing to and move to so that they stay within the capacity of their crane or their machine? And we as humans don't often think about all those pieces. We just think about how heavy is it? Not so much where it's located first. how do I muckle onto it? How high do I have to lift it? How far do I have to go with it? We just take for granted that our body can do it because we might have done it before. But as we get older and I think across the nation where we're finding that our workforce is aging, we are as we get older, we struggle to do the same amount of things or lift the same amount or recover faster from doing something incorrectly that we might have been able to do before. Al Brown: Our physiology's slower. And it's as we as we age, we also bring along comorbidities to define that term those are the aches and pains. That's the sprained knee from hiking the hill. That was the old football injury. That was the cheerleading, "Oh I hurt myself." So those aches and pains that kind of come along with life, heal but there's always a little bit of scar left over. And when we start to get to that point in life where we're we consider ourselves aging, and that seems to be a moving target nowadays for me, I'm trying to push it back as far as I can. Those aches and pains come with you and our posture indicates it will impact those comorbidities, too. So, the more awkward or, or forward, or leaning posture as we age, we tend to drop down a bit the more you will impact the joints, ligaments and tendons in your body because they weren't originally built for that posture. So now something has to take up those forces and that's when you begin to get chronic pain and discomfort and strain muscles sooner and easier and tear muscles and tendons and ligaments. So, we're a little bit more exposed. So, when you're taking care of the body and trying to maintain that body in an upright position. Again, it's like that crane, you've got a preventive maintenance. It allows you to do more. But still at the end, gravity wins. It's undefeated. So, you're gonna go. So, you're trying to compress your comorbidities as much as you can in the manual material handling world. Pete Koch: So, let's look at those risk factors again. So, exertion, repetitive motion or movements and then awkward postures. So, when you're in the workplace, give me some examples of where you see these either three combined into something that could be very challenging for somebody or just where you might see these in the workplace. Al Brown: Well, you know, it can be a low work area, you know, where you have a tall worker that comes in and they might be doing auto parts, where they're reaching and then they have a box to the side of them that they're stacking these parts and the box might be a little too high. So, or it's just in an awkward position. So, they have to kind of reach up and over the box and place it. And then when the box is filled, they close it up, they pick it up, they turn around and then they put it on a pallet which is on the ground. So, we've got we've got, you know, awkward posture. Static standing, reaching for the parts, to rotating, to put it in a box, up and over with a shoulder being exposed to kind of an up awkward overreach. And then you finished with this I pick it up, it's a heavy lift and I place it on the pallet. So, I'm very exposed. Now, let me tell you something. Just a little physiology about disks. Disks are, we hear about slip disks. That's actually a bad term. Disks don't slip. They are well attached to the vertebrae above and below. The vertebrae are the bony structures, and through those bony structures go your nerves. And there's lots of tendons and ligaments that hold this all together. And the discs are well attached. However, they are the weak link. And so, they're a little bit like a jelly doughnut is always used as an example. So, with bending forward slightly, you will create sort of a forward compressive force on the front side of the disc and a forcing that gel inside the disc sort of posterior backwards. And behind that disc are your nerves that kind of go to different parts of your body. So, you can create sort of a bulging to that disc. A natural bulging. And that's why you, me and everybody else, when we've been sitting or even leaning, we have this, some of us will have this natural instinct to stand up and do sort of a backward bend. And all we're trying to do is reset that gel back where it belongs. And with industry, we try to encourage workers to do that. We do that with drivers that are delivery drivers or truck drivers because they're sitting. They change that disc and it takes about anywhere from three to 10 minutes to get that disc to reshape, because you're at great exposure to a to a back injury if you just go and muckle on and pick something up. So that person I was talking about earlier that is doing the auto parts, they're bent forward, they're loading the disc, they're placing in the box. And then the next thing they do, they turn around and they pick the box up and put it on a pallet and they go, "Oh, my gosh, it was the heavy lift." And it wasn't so much a heavy lift, but it was that awkward leaning forward posture that prepared the disc for injury. Pete Koch: Yup. The movement of the inside of the disc or that gel inside the disc, as I sit forward it's not a quick change all the time, So the longer I stay in one position the longer it takes for that to then reset. Al Brown: Physiologically you have do have a limit. I mean it's like I said three, maybe five minutes. We usually encourage folks to go longer because what happens is sitting flattens your there's an inward curve in your low back. So, it actually flattens that curve and that changes the physics of the compression on that disc. And again, it depends on all the comorbidities you bring along for that disk and how weak the back wall is. But let's call it a healthy disk, when you stand up, that curve doesn't just spring back to its normal shape. It will as you stand and walk around just because it's resetting, it's the gel is re-shifting. And it's not a like a water filled water balloon in there that just squirts around, it takes a moment for it to change. So, it's a slow process, but it resets. But you can assist that by doing a little bit of a back extension. A lot of times we, we encourage that with like I said, drivers or folks that are in manufacturing, where they're doing a lot of stuff in front of them, that during that stretch break they sort of reset their back. Pete Koch: And I think the key right there is it's a stretch break. So, it's a break from doing what's in front of you. Again, the repetition to help change the effects of the awkward posture. So if I'm gonna be in that forward position for a while, if I can't change what's in front of me, then before I go to lift the heavy part, I need to take a not just a moment, but I need to actually take maybe a minute or two and reset before I go to lift that. Al Brown: Yup and in that case, you know, here's an example of working with a company to realize that they're going to say, I can't wait three or five minutes for them to move that box. So that's where you look at can I automate. Is there a spur? Can we roller conveyor once it's filled? Can we just kind of push it off? So, we eliminate that risk factor because you can't you know, you don't want to interrupt production. You don't, you know there's a fallacy that ergonomics actually creates a slowdown in the world of production, but in fact, it sort of enhances it and minimizes the risk. But in that particular case, you have to find that kind of a solution. For example, the roller conveyor or, you know, a vacuum lift or whatever to kind of move the box up and out. Pete Koch: Well, you know, talking about that part like ergonomics slows it down so that story I told at the beginning of the podcast about clearing ice from towers one winter. So, the task we had a group of people we were clearing ice from towers, we were up anywhere between 30 and 60 feet in the air working in the wintertime. The environment was very slippery. So, we're in a full body harness and we have fall protection. And so, in my kit, I have work positioning that allows me to connect into something, lean back into it and sit into a good spot and then work hands free with it and not having to muckle onto something, where my co-workers didn't. They either leaned into their fall protection equipment, which you don't want to do. Or they had to hold on with one arm and do all the work with the other arm. So, what happened throughout the day is that I got more done because I had less fatigue throughout the day. So, production can come from many different ways. Either it's a solution that allows the worker to exert less throughout the day, therefore getting more done throughout the day. Or it eliminates or reduces one of those risk factors and allows the production to move more quickly. Like a roller conveyor instead of a pick and a lift. Anytime you can put something on a piece of machinery and move it from point A to point B, it's gonna be a lot more efficient than it is if you're going to give it to somebody to move it someplace else. Al Brown: And think of it, you're just more efficient, you're working more efficiently. So, your fatigue factor is a lot less compared to that person that's struggling and lifting and kind of reaching around. They're going to use much more force or much greater percentage of their force that they can generate. We always do a grip dynamometer; it measures your grip strength. So, we'll have someone in their power zone grip and for ease of math and for everybody listening. Say the person can generate 100 pounds of force and then we'll have them do a reach across the table, maybe an awkward position of the wrist and we have them squeeze that grip dynamometer again. And often, more often than not, that person will generate only half the force that they can in their power zone. And it's not because they gave us less effort, that was their maximum grip because of that awkward position. So, they lose half of their force. So, if they're doing a task that requires 50 pounds of force when they're in their power zone, that's half of their ability to generate force. So, they're much more efficient. They have to reach because they're in an awkward position and reaching across the bed to make the bed. They're reaching around to remove the ice, that's a maximum grip every time. So, they're exerting everything they've got every time. So, their fatigue factor sets in much quicker. Get clumsy. They start to trip and fall. They make mistakes. Boom: injury occurs. So that efficiency factor and the ability, it's all about positioning the person, whether they're on a tower or in front of a manufacturing plant, how can we get that product again, fitting the work to the worker into their power zone? And again, another quick example. I worked in an industry that was a wood manufacturer and they would bring in these 50-pound bins, back to that 50-pound number again, and we watched raw product to finished product. And in that process, those 50-pound bins got picked up and set on the floor 14 times. So those are 14 opportunities to create back injury. Plus, if you just did a time study on "I Pick It Up and I Set it Down". The amount time they spent doing that, lifting up, setting down, they were spending a lot of wasted time, non-productive time that was high risk time. So, we actually got to the point where we created a roller conveyor where this product would just stay at the same working level and those 14 lifts went away. Pete Koch: Yeah. Not to mention the fact that you start doing the math and, you know, 14 times 50, you start thinking about, all right, I'm going to I'm going to go work out today. I'm going to go lift that 50-pound dumbbell or whatever, 14 times like that's a lot of weight -- at work. Laundry, picking up a 50-pound bag of laundry from the floor 10 or 15 times because I'm not putting it in a place where I don't have to lift it from the floor. Or raw product or completed product, the more times you handle it, like you said, the less efficient it is overall for lean manufacturing. But also, it takes away from the person's capacity throughout the day. Al Brown: Yeah, fatigue. I mean, it's just it's energy. Housekeeping. You know, the butthead maneuver, if you go back to the butthead maneuver and typically, if you're looking at an average individual and they're bending down and it's an extended reach, they can generate up to a thousand pounds of force inside that disc. Now, in the NIOSH lifting equation, sort of references 770-inch pounds as kind of a safe force that's tolerable by the back, so you’re reaching a thousand pounds of force. So, if I'm a housekeeper and I know we've worked together with a housekeeping company, and they're in condos and they put things on the floor. Every time they needed something; they'd bend over to pick up that thing. And if that was 30 times in the day, that's 30,000 extra inch pounds of force on the back, that if I had just taken that same object and placed it on a table, I've eliminated 30,000 extra inch pounds of force on the back that day. Pete Koch: And that's, you talked about doing a time study. That same thing, doing a lifting study or a moment study when you're looking at the workplace throughout. Where are those times where you're putting something that's below your power zone or above your power zone? Because if I asked you, "Al, thanks for coming in today, I want you to lift a thousand pounds 30 times for me." You'd look at me and go, "There's no way I'm doing that. I'm going to find a different job" Al Brown: Maybe if I warmed up Pete Koch: Oh, possibly. But we're asking or inadvertently causing that same piece to happen with some of our workers. And no wonder that we get to the end of a long week or a long day or increased productivity or I've lost somebody on the shift for whatever reason, I have more work to do that you get a fatigue-related or repetitive motion style injury or cause to one of the workers. Where if we understood more about the effect of the work on the worker, we might be able to manage some of those risk factors. Al Brown: Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, when we go into industry, that's one of the big things is we help industry sort of identify those. We actually have a little 10 tips for good manufacturing or manual material handling environment. So, you begin to look at those 10 parameters, you know, and you can begin to identify where the where the issue might be. And then that's where you might find your root cause and you back up and go, "OK, what can we do to make a change there?" I mean, that's always what we're trying to do. And we, sawzall and duct tape, we try to, you know, provide a solution that is low tech. Because obviously, people can't just throw hundreds of thousand dollars at a solution. But in the long term, you know, you may suggest robotics, you may suggest automation, you know, vacuum lifts. And those things can be worked in the capital budget over time. But prior to that, you know, we've got to find the low hanging fruit, or we've got to find the thing that we can do now to reduce that exposure. And let me just as a caveat here, or as an outlier, you know people go, "Can you teach them proper lifting?" And proper lifting is not going to solve bad ergonomics. It is not going to solve bad ergonomics. And sometimes I have to sit down and go, OK, we have to have a conversation because that's just not going to solve it. That's an administrative thing that you can teach. A proper lifting is a skill. Not everybody has it. Soon as you walk away, they're going to go lift it the way they're going to go lift. And you're better off to engineer out the problem. So, so proper lifting, you know, it looks great on paper. It sounds good when you do the presentation, but in reality, you're better off to address the ergonomics of it. Pete Koch: So, it's one component that addresses the outlier that couldn't be managed by the engineering solution. Al Brown: Yes. Yes. Pete Koch: Hey, so let's take a quick break and we'll be back in just a moment with the Safety Experts podcast. Pete Koch: Welcome back to the Safety Experts podcast. And today, we're talking with Alan Brown, Director of Ergonomics at MEMIC. And today, we're talking about industrial ergonomics and putting the worker center in the workplace. And so, let's jump back in with more questions. So, prior to the break, we've been talking about how ergonomic risk factors affect the worker. And we talked about repetitive motion and awkward posture, excessive reach and excessive force. So, talk to our listeners about how they might be able to evaluate their work area. So, if they're at a workspace right now, they're listening to this podcast through headphones and they're hanging out at their workspace or they're thinking about their workspace. It could be an assembly station. They could be order picking. They can be in a laundry space. They could be in a kitchen space. What would they look for? And then what might they be able to do to make some adjustments? Al Brown: Sure. Pete, thanks. The very first thing is if you go back to that NIOSH lifting equation and you have folks handling weight beyond 50 pounds, that's a red flag. That's a good place to start and ask yourself, why are they handling 50 pounds? And is that a two-person lift? And if it's not that you need to reassess, why are we handling, what can we do to change the 50 pounds? Do we bring in smaller bags? You know, we think of like the beer brewing industry, where there are bags of hops that come in that are 50 pounds. Or flour, that has to be lifted into a vat. And in that particular case, if it's not going to be a two-person job, they actually are using, actually, this was a real-life assessment it was, where actually went to a vacuum lift. So the very first thing is if you're handling things greater than 50 pounds, you have to look at how can I bring that back to more of a 35 pound force or do I have to automate or find a mechanical way to handle that? There are all kinds of mechanical material handling devices out there. I think of barrels, barrel tippers, you know, those kinds of things. Al Brown: The second thing is to add anything you're putting on the ground, stop putting it on the ground if you don't have to put it there. Go back to that wood manufacturing plant I talked about where they would put the 50-pound bin on the ground 14 times. So, don't put anything on the ground that doesn't have to go there. Use the knee as sort of a guideline that anything below the knee, ask yourself, "Why are we doing that and how can we get it above the knee?" And again, early on it can be stacking pallets to bring the load up. It can be something fancy like a pallet lift or you know, that will actually with a rotating top so you can load the pallet and you don't to reach across the pallet and spin it around. And then nothing above shoulder level. So, you go to that and we throw numbers at it, and again, looking at the average individual, think of 15 inches at the knees, nothing above 60 inches at the shoulder and 35 pounds in between. Al Brown: So, when you start to find outliers in your industry that go beyond those critical demands, you have to ask yourself, is that an essential function of that job? And if it is, how can I change it? And if I can't change that weight, then mechanically I have to figure out how to move that. In the health care industry, in nursing homes and extended care facilities. Human beings are really starting to get much larger. We have bariatric units. We have folks that are 400, 500 pounds. And poor handles, no handles. So, we actually are very focused on using mechanical lifts. Now, now part of the issue there too, is you have to apply the belts and things and that can be those little things that causes back pains. They have to be more aware of those. So, in an industry, you have to look at where you're outside those critical demands. Housekeeping is another challenge. You know, getting folks educated about reaching across the bed because that when you reach across the bed -- here's one of these funny little awkward things -- when you bend forward at the waist and you reach out with your arm to pull the sheet up. Is that above your shoulder or below your shoulder? Pete Koch: As I'm looking at you right now it's above your shoulder. Al Brown: It's above your shoulder, right? And most folks don't realize that when they're bending over and they're reaching way out, that's actually above shoulder work. And it's actually provides greater force than if I was to stand straight up and reach above my head because I've at least got the game of Jenga lined up. And, you know, the forces are compressing me down through my axial skeleton. And when I reach across the bed, I'm that long extended crane and that's above my shoulders. So very inefficient. So, in that case, we can't change a bed configuration. So, you have to do some education and that becomes a two-person task. So, you'll look at situations like that. So, it depends on the kind of industry you're or you're in. Just moving product around. Take a look at the flow of your product and going from raw product to finished product. Is it a linear process moving through your industry or is it zigzagging all over the place? And if it's zigzagging all over the place, you're taking a lot of time to move stuff around that you probably don't have to and you're probably moving at multiple times. So how can we actually line up the process to minimize all that extra movement and risk of injury? And certainly, look at, you know, automation and the mechanical lifts that are out there because they've gotten very sophisticated. You might think that a bag of flour can't be vacuum lift. But it can. You know, it's amazing the stuff that you can do. Big awkward things might not be 50 pounds. I'm thinking of like a window, you know, but it's a big awkward thing that also is gonna create awkward postures to kind of pick it up and put your shoulders or your back in an awkward position or an inefficient position. So you might use a vacuum left to move that around. So, it depends on the thing you're doing. So those are some of the when you're walking through your industry or when you're first taking a glance at it. Think about that, 50 pounds. Am I exceeding that? I like 35. So, if you see things above 35 pounds, that's also a red flag for me. Pete Koch: Well I think that's a that's a key point to bring up and even though 51 pounds, is that NIOSH Lifting limit, as we talked about before, there are so many factors that cut into that 50 pounds that don't make it 50 anymore. So, 35 is a much place. Al Brown: 35's a much more realistic number. Pete Koch: Because I have never seen anybody in a in a non-laboratory, you know, testing standpoint be able to pick up 50 pounds and keep it no more than 10 inches away from them and no more move at no more than 10 inches up and down and not twist with it. You always have to do something else like that. So, yeah, 50 pounds. Great place to start. But let's start at 35 because that's more realistic throughout anything. Al Brown: And if you look at a lot of the research that's been done the past, I've always asked this question of the researchers, "What age were these workers?" Because oftentimes they're young college students that they, you know, volunteered to do this or get a little extra money for the research project. And I'm thinking that is not our workforce nowadays, particularly Maine. You know, we are the oldest workforce in the nation with an average working age of about 47.8 years old. So, you know, 35 pounds is much more realistic. And again, as we get older, we lift less and are less tolerant of those kinds of forces. Pete Koch: And I think in a lot of the manual jobs and a lot of the jobs that that require someone to do lifting or reaching or those physical tasks, you're gonna find an older workforce regardless of what state you're in. The workforce as aging overall, not just in Maine, but overall. And we're finding that to be more of a challenge. So, yeah, I think just from an efficiency standpoint, it makes sense to think to think about it in that perspective. So again, kind of recapping so the, anything above 35 pounds we're really paying attention to and then location of where that product is. So where is it? And you referenced your knee and your shoulder as being those two pieces. What were the measurement that you had in there? Al Brown: Well, I said 15 to 60, but that's the average worker, when you look at shoulder height, knee height. But to include all workers always think knee and shoulder, because if I have someone that's five foot one in that job, their knees are gonna be a little bit lower than someone that's 6’2”. And again, that 5'1" to 6'2", you know, that's going to be 90 percent of your workforce is going to fall between those two heights. If you have someone that's not 5'1" and they're less than you have someone greater than 6'2", you may have to make some accommodations simply because they are at the extremes. But you want to try to find, you know knee to shoulder is kind of what you're looking at. And you had mentioned it earlier on, Pete, in the podcast and that is adjustability. So, knee and shoulder, if your workspace has adjustability, I know at one of these large retail distribution center in the Freeport area, a lot of their work benches do height adjust. Pete Koch: And I was thinking in that same example. Al Brown: They walk in and the first thing they do is they adjust it to their stature. Pete Koch: I’ve seen it happen actually; it was actually at one of the checkout stations that they had. There was a little guy who came in. He probably was, I don't know, maybe 5’4”. So pretty small in stature. And then the next person that came in was close to 6'4". So almost a two-foot difference. And when they came in, the first thing that the person did was not go right to work, but they adjusted the workstation to bring it up to. So, each person was working at the same level, but they adjusted the workstation. So great training on that, the company's part to instill it into the heads of their workers that this is where we expect you to work and we're providing you some tools in order to accomplish that and work to accomplish that. Al Brown: And that's a that's a high level. I mean, when you get to adjustability, I mean, that's a company that's really forward thinking. And they've been, oh, 40 years kind of through this process, you know, as long as I've been involved and to current day. So that's been an evolution. So, you might have you know, you don't need to be that fancy, but that's where you would like to get where you could actually have a workspace that is adjustable that fits multiple statured individuals. Pete Koch: And I think if that's your plan, as you begin to look at your workplace like that would be the ultimate thing to be able to adjust the work place or the workstation or the work area to the myriad of different workers that I have. If that's the goal, then you can always make incremental steps towards that goal. But if you don't start with that goal, then chances of you ever getting there, it might take you 40 or 50 years and that's not really functional. And as quickly as we move these days, you need to be more thoughtful as you're working towards those ergonomic solutions towards adjustability. So even though it is advanced, I think if you set that as the goal, then that would be you're more likely to achieve it than if you don't set it from it from the beginning. Al Brown: And I'm going to tell you, one of the greatest resources you have is the worker. When I go into an industry, I go talk to the person doing the job task and ask them where the low hanging fruit is. What do you see as a solution or what would make this job easier? And they can often give me one through three bullet points that are like this would make this job a lot easier if I could do this. And enlisting that worker is invaluable. In instituting a change, because if I came in and just dictated a change, I might get some folded arms and that closed body posture looking at me going, I don't think so. Pete Koch: That's not going to happen, you don't know my job. Al Brown: If I collaborate and work with the worker, the change comes much easier. And also there's process improvement because they're going to try something, then they're gonna go back and go, you know, if we tweak this and that has been repeated time and time again through industry throughout the US that we've been working with. You go to that valuable resource at the front line. Pete Koch: That's a really great point. That change is difficult for everyone. And when you change something at work that's been constant for a long time, it becomes very challenging regardless of how awkward or uncomfortable it is. So enlisting the person that will have to manage the change, to develop the change and to tweak the change. It helps with that productivity helps them become more comfortable as there is a great way to eliminate some of those change challenges that you're gonna have in the workplace. Fantastic. So, I think we've hit just about all the points that we wanted to make today. There's certainly a myriad of other concepts and discussions that we can have around industrial ergonomics, but I think we'll leave those for a different episode. So, I really do appreciate all those suggestions today about how to make changes in the workplace and industrial ergonomics. And we're going to wrap up today's episode with maybe some final comments from you about industrial ergonomics and how employers might help manage some of their challenges in the workplace. Al Brown: Sure. You know in the news, if you listen to the news nowadays, everything is going to go to robotics. And as often as I've been out in industry, I haven't seen robots take over all the jobs. And the human factor is still there. And as long as the human factor is there and I think it will be there for a very long time, there is always going to be risk and exposure. And we have to know the limits of a human being. Know the limits of human physiology. And if you understand those and you work within those limits, you find that you actually will have a very efficient work environment that can be very productive and that workers can come in happy and go home happy without aches and pains. And a lot of times the pearls of wisdom that you share or enlist in your workplace, they can overlay those in the non-work environment, too. So, it's kind of a win, win, win. And robotics won't take every job. So, we're here to help out that that that human equipment. Pete Koch: I think that's great. So, know the limitations, understand them and how they will affect your workforce is a great piece. And that ties right into the definition of ergonomics and how it fits in within industry. So, thanks Al for joining us today and to all of our listeners out there who have spent the hour with us. If you have any questions for Al or would like to hear more about a particular topic or from a certain person on our podcast, email podcast at MEMIC.com. 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I dette afsnit anmelder vi den lidt overraskende “Doctor Sleep”. I “Set siden set” taler vi både om sæson to af “Jack Ryan”, “Maleficent: Mistress of Evil” og “Dolemite is my Name” – hvor det ser ud som om, Eddie Murphy er tilbage i topform. Lyt med! Støt Film Snak: 10er.dk Med støtte på 10er […]
Bienvenidos, bienvenidas, a una nueva edición de nuestro programa, con el mejor indie nacional e internacional... con el indie que más nos gusta, con la alternativa del indie. En el programa de hoy, además de repasar extensamente "El Milagro", nuevo disco de Viva Suecia, escucharemos temazos como: Pale Honey - Set Me Free; The Molth and the Flame -Red Rising; Tempers - Capital Pains; The Essex Green - Don't Leave It In Our Hands; Silona- Course of Life; I Set the Sea on Fire - Kill your senators; International teachers of pop - Age of the Train; Trevor Something -The Ghost; HAARM - Box of Bones; Viva Suecia - Los días amables. ¡Échanos un oído!
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Denne uges podcast byder på en film, der stort set kun har Will Smith på rollelisten. Vi har nemlig set sci fi-filmen Gemini Man, som er instrueret af Ang Lee. I Set siden sidst taler vi bl.a. om fortsættelsen til The Fugitive, dokumentaren Amy og et kjoledrama sat i tzartidens Rusland. Derudover har vi premiere […]
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Episode 20 - I Set the Netflix password to “Spurs Defense”. They said it was too weak #manchesterunited #arsenal #realmadrid #podcast #soccer #mls #MUFC #halamadrid #COYG #AFTV It was godfather sorry, but let us rejoice in Arsenal’s victory against Tottenham in the North London Derby and enjoy our 89 minute diss track of Spurs. We also talk about Manchester United dull draw against Southampton, Real Madrid’s victory against Roma and Valencia, and whether we are going to the MLS Cup Final or the 2nd Leg of the Copa Libertadores final. Notes & Links Intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8Q4seACrE
It is a shame that stigmas exist, for those who struggle, I struggle with you. There is hope and I hate that you may never hear that you, you are not alone. Anxiety Disorder Statistics; “Anxiety Disorders affect 18.1 percent of adults in the United States (approximately 40 million adults between the ages of 18 to 54).” – National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) May I leave you with this- there is a perfect physician and a prince of peace, one we can find full rest in- God, and He is good. But, we do wrestle with Him, and we wonder “why” for so many things, but I promise, He is still good. I Set the camera on continuous, held it out, and wrestled in prayer as I had a panic attack on the kitcheb floor. 10 minutes. I’m still standing and I’m still me, and I am proud of who I am. God is good. I am strong. My weakness is made perfect in His strength. A matter of fact, I’m stronger this afternoon than I was this morning, and every time “we” defeat anxiety, “we”are stronger- God and I, you and me, us, we are stronger. Now pass it on, don’t let someone you care about be alone. If you lament, if you struggle, if you cry- cry with those who cry, lament with those who lament, mourn until morning, and be strong in your weakness. website: https://adventuresofdt.com/2017/03/15/a-panic-attack-in-black-and-white/
OUR FIRST GIVEAWAY! - Our pal @watchmax on instagram ended up with two Prospex SRPA21 PADI divers and wanted us to give one away - who are we to argue? Listen for all the details! For episode 23 the guys are bringing the Collection Inspection back! Now at Volume 3, James is talking about his much loved Bremont SOLO and Jason continues the aviation theme with his very cool Oris ProPilot Altimeter. For new business, Jason is back from Bonaire with a new dive computer and some underwater time with the Unimatic Modello Uno U1-B and James has gone off the deep end with flashlights (he can't help himself). Finally, we've got a classic collection of car, diving and flying-themed final notes to get you through to the next episode. Speaking of which, please note that we will not have a new episode on January 3rd, 2017 but rather will push EP 25 to January 10th to better synchronize with SIHH. Just press play, thanks for listening! Bremont Solo http://bit.ly/2gQs0Uk James' review of the Solo http://bit.ly/2gQwIBt Oris Big Crown ProPilot Altimeter http://bit.ly/2g85SGT Jason's review of the Oris Altimeter http://bit.ly/2agBmG5 Zanlare F1 http://bit.ly/2g8bYGY Light and Motion Gobe http://bit.ly/2gpjNpu DeepBlu Cosmiq+ http://bit.ly/2h2D1RE Unimatic Modello Uno U-1B http://bit.ly/2gE8hvi Force Fins http://bit.ly/2h7P9VA Scuba Pro Twin Jet Max Fins http://bit.ly/2gDePsa "I Set the L.A to N.Y. Record in a Morgan 3 Wheeler" http://bit.ly/2fWF1Py "Unfathomable" http://bit.ly/2g8cbKh "Rolex presents: The Trieste's Deepest Dive (Extended)" http://bit.ly/2gVyAfk "The Human Factor" http://bit.ly/2gVwtrN
Marty McCoy calls in this week from the road. Marty and I have a long talk about everything from the Glen Benton comments that went viral to the Hatfield and McCoy feud. We discuss the current Bobaflex tour. Also on this episode, Brendyn Moxley of I, Apollo calls the show to talk about their upcoming tour with I Set my Friends on Fire. Brendyn and I also talk about the lost art of the flier and who I, Apollo would get into a diss track war with. Email Talk Toomey Go to Talk Toomey Facebook and "LIKE" the page Tweet Talk Toomey Twitter here. Sponsors: Go to PUCK HCKY here. Buy a Talk Toomey Tee Today!! Support Become a Patreon Supporter here
Vi dykker for første gang ned i superheltenes univers og tager et kig på den seneste serie i det store Marvelverse, nemlig agent serien: Marvel's Agent Carter. Derud over har vi en fødselar i studie. I Set siden sidst sgementet snakker vi om: Fortitude, Banshee, Äkta Människor og Continuum. Vi finder også ud af hvordan en bæver lyder når den taler og hvordan tjener folk i sitcoms EGENTLIG alle de penge de tilsyneladende må have? Det er lidt suspekt... OBS: Vi beklager den dårlige lyd i starten af podcasten, teknikeren(Nikolaj) havde pillet ved mikrofonen så den stod på en forkert indstilling.
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