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Join this podcast's Facebook Group: The Dental Marketer SocietyJoin my newsletter: https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/[Click here to leave a review on iTunes]‍‍Guest: Sana YusufPractice Name: Sana Dental Studio & SpaCheck out Sana's Media:‍Instagram: @sanayusufdmd‍‍Other Mentions and Links:Unreasonable HospitalityExcite Realty GroupTricare InsuranceVolkswagenHumanaMichael Dinsio - Next Level ConsultantsHeartland DentalMorpheus MachineTransdental MarketingMVP MailhouseArt of Dental MarketingRenew Digital‍‍Host: Michael Arias‍Website: The Dental Marketer Join my newsletter: https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/‍Join this podcast's Facebook Group: The Dental Marketer Society‍‍My Key Takeaways:Balancing work and home life can be tough. Making time for YOU is just as important as both!If you are saying yes to everything, you are also saying no to many other opportunities. 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So the weather right now over there is pretty Sana: Yeah, I was gonna say, let's see, let's check 81 degrees. It's great. . Michael: Oh man, that's winter right there for you guys. So in summer, how does summer look? Sana: It's like very hot, but I'm also not like a native Floridian, so for me, I'm like, oh, this feels great.Like, I don't know, I was made for the desert, so I Michael: like it. It's made for the desert. No, that's good. That's good. I, I hear Tampa Bay, it's really beautiful. So It is, yeah. Sana: I, my husband and I talk about it all the time, like it feels like we're on vacation. Mm-hmm. every day, and I'm like, wait, we live here.This is kinda cool. . So like, if we go to the beach, it's not like we have to like, pack up and like go to our hotel. We're like, okay, now we just have to drive to our house. So this is cool. Yeah. So it's nice. It, it definitely is a nice, nice place to Michael: be. Nice. Awesome. Okay, so son, tell us a little bit about your past, your present.How did you get to where you are today? Sana: Okay. I was like, how, how far back are we going? I was July 10th, 1991. I was born, no, I'm just kidding. , you were born Michael: July 10th, 1991. Sana: I was, yeah. I'm a. I'm Michael: 30. I'm 31. Sana: I'm 31. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Millennial as it gets, that's Michael: millennial as it gets. Okay, cool. So then talk to us about, I dunno, you can go as far back as you want, but like, okay.I Sana: won't go that far back. It's kind of boring. Like, you know, tons of like generational traumas and like all that, like stuff that you're trying to like break through and like, whatever. So we won't go through all that stuff that's like for therapy, but like professional. Right. Okay. So I, um, graduated high school oh nine and I went straight into like, um, Seven year dental program at Detroit Mercy. So, , I did three years undergrad and then you go like automatically into dental school as long as you like D a T scores, science, gpa, all that stuff. Mm-hmm. . So, I kind of decided, I was like, Hey, like I don't wanna live in Detroit for seven years of my life.I was born in Detroit, so that's cool. But I grew up in like suburbs of Chicago, so like I don't wanna live in Detroit. So I kind of decided, hey, I'm gonna get my bachelor's in three years so that way I can apply to any dental school I want and then I can move back home to Chicago. So that was like always the goal.Mm-hmm. . So I took, I remember one summer I took 21 credit hours of summer school at three different community colleges, Michael: and I was pregnant. Sana: And you were pregnant? And I was pregnant, yes. Surprise, surprise team mom. Anyways, everybody knows that, but it's fine. Who? Whoever didn't know it now knows it.Yeah. So I had a son when I was 19, but um, yeah, so like the summer that I was pregnant with him, I took 21 summer, like 21 credit hours of summer school. Mm-hmm. at three different community colleges. Cause I was like, no, I have to like, I have to graduate in three years. Like that's just my goal now. So I took all the like sociology and psycho, all the like required for your degree, but like not science courses all in summer.So graduated when I was 20 from college. That was cool. That was 2012 and then started dental school immediately. And so I did get into school back in Chicago. I went to Midwestern University in Downers Grove. So I did four years there. I decided to join the Army after I got outta our dental school. So I did the H P S P scholarship.Um, I commissioned when I was still an undergrad, so was in the army, got out. got outta dental school, became active duty in the Army. So that was four years. 2016 is when I graduated dental school. So 2016 to 2020 I was in, in the Army. I was stationed at Fort Hill, Oklahoma. So that's my, my lawyer.Okay. Yeah, . So I was stationed at Fort Sill, so I did four years active duty, which was fun, difficult, definitely, you know, you're kind of like trying to be a soldier, but also trying to be a dentist, trying to figure out how to be a soldier. Also, still trying to figure out how to be a dentist. So it was a lot of like figuring out for four years.and then I decided after I did my four year commitment that we were, yeah. That I was gonna get out. and I wanted to kind of explore private practice and like just being like a civilian dentist. So immediately that happened right when Covid started. So it's like a whole thing where like, . I felt like the world was ending.I mean, I'm sure everybody did when Covid ended, right? But I was getting out of the army where like everything is guaranteed benefits, guaranteed pay. Like, oh, I'm sitting at home because everything is shut down and I'm getting paid and I have like my Tricare medical benefits for my entire family and everything is great and dandy.And I was like giving up all of that security to like jump into like the real world where I'm like, I have to pay $1,500 a month to have health insurance for my children. what? Do you guys need it? Are you okay? Like, can you not fall down? Don't get sick. How about that? Like just, just drink your orange juice, like Rick Juice, like let's save $1,500.Like what is And. . I remember like, so when I was getting out of the army, my husband and I were both from Chicago, so we're like, okay, like let's, we were trying to like decide like, what do we wanna do? Like, do we move back to Chicago? Do we like pick somewhere new? Do we move to Texas? Like, what are we doing?And like, just, we were like, okay, we're gonna move to Florida. So literally we're like, Hey, now where do we move in Florida? Do we go to Miami? We're like, no, that's like two party. Party. And like, we're trying to like have a family and like kids , I don't wanna be in South Beach. Like if I'm down there, I'm gonna wanna be at South Beach and like ha like at a party.And I also my mom, and so I have kids so I can, that I, okay, we can't go to Miami. Miami is off the table. So, okay. How about Orlando? And I'm like, no. Like I hate traffic. And also like, it's very touristy. So like, okay, we're not moving to Orlando. And so we're like, all right, let's move Tampa. Like, Tampa's like up and coming.Like I was like, it's like the Austin of Florida. Like that's like the way I had like term, I was like, it's the Austin of Florida. Yeah. Cause my like, best friend lives lives in Austin and so we like moved here and this is like before Tom Brady was here. Michael: Cause I thought you were following Tom Brady, but nevermind. Sana: Yeah. I was like, before selling Tampa, like we were here just like, so I didn't move here cause everybody's moving here. We literally picked it and we're like, we're gonna go there. So, yeah. So we moved here like June of 2020. So it's like, what the height of Covid, like the middle of Covid.Mm-hmm. . And as I'm like moving, so my husband got, my husband's a high school teacher, so he like got a job. He was like ready to go. And then I had a job, like as an associate everything's shut down. And so like we're moving here in June and in April they're like, Hey, like by the way, we have to pull your contract.Like, sorry, you can't work here. And we're like, what? I'm like, wait, hold on. Excuse me. like I just can't work here for like the month of April and May because I wasn't gonna be there anyways. Like it's fine. Yeah. And they're like, no, never like until we figure out what's happening with Covid. I was like, people still need dentists during Covid.It's fine. I'll wear a mask. I need a job. You need a dentist? I'm coming. that didn't happen. That didn't happen. So they pulled my contract and I was like, in my head I was like, do I just like stay in the army? I was like, oh, so I should just stay in the army. Like that's like my logical thing.I was like, pull my packet. Like I'm sit, captain Yiv is staying, guys, don't worry, I'm not going anywhere. I'm still here. Don't worry. Like not leaving. But my husband's like, no, I have a job in Florida. Like, we're moving. Like, it's fine. We'll figure it out. My husband's like very, like, we'll figure it out. And I'm like, no.Like we must plan. Like I must have a plan for my plan for the backup plan. Like that's how I am. So we're like very opposite and he just is very like, go with it. So like in my head, like, we're moving here. I was like, we should like rent a place, get the lay of the land, like figure it out. Like, and my husband's like, no, I don't wanna move twice.Like, we're just gonna, we should just buy a house when we get, we should just buy a house. And I'm like, dude, like it's covid. Like we have, we haven't, we can't fly there to look at house. We don't need to look at it. They can FaceTime us. is that? What happened? Michael: Yes. , Sana: My husband was like, no, it's fine.They can just FaceTime us. That's fine. So the realtor literally like FaceTimed us. We like saw this house. She sent us some videos and we're like, all right, like let, yeah, let's, okay, let's buy it. Sure. Cool. So like we bought this house site, zine, site unseen. Michael: Is it better than what you expected or worse?Sana: Yeah, I'm like so grateful. I'm like I said, a prayer. My husband actually, like, I was still like filing out, so I couldn't leave Oklahoma as soon as he could. Cause I still have to do like all my paperwork and whatever with the army. And we like got a call like, Hey, your furniture's gonna get delivered on Monday.And we're like, wait, what? Like you guys said it was gonna take two weeks. So like we're all planning like two weeks. Like it'll be perfect timing. So, Once it goes into storage, like, I don't know, I'm sure like everybody who's listening who has done like a military move understands like, do not put your stuff in the storage if it is gonna get delivered straight to your house.Like you accept it, you accept the shipment to your house and you drive 19 hours without stopping to Florida to get your household goods. Otherwise you'll see it in 90 days. Yeah, because once it's a storage, it's gone. So literally my husband and my son got in a car and drove from Oklahoma to Florida.Saturday they left and then Monday our stuff got delivered and they were there to accept the shipment. So anyways, and my husband like calls me, he's like, wow, babe. The front hall's actually a lot bigger than it looked like in the video. And I'm like, I'm so glad that's unthankful . Michael: Really? This is the one thing I wantedSana: It's like I'm so glad that it's like a welcoming the entryway. This is so good. Yeah, so it's so funny. But yeah, so we moved here 2020. Thankfully I like found an associate position. literally in May, we got here in June and like in May, I was just like submitting my Indeed application to like everybody and their mom.And I was like, oh, like you would like somebody at this nursing home to check people's dentures. Of course, yes. Please take my application. Yes, I will come do that. That's what you need. I will do that. . It was, I literally, I think I submitted my, I think people are still responding to my Indeed applications like three years later.we found a great position for you. I was like, not interested, not looking. Thank you. Stop. Stop. S t stop. Unsubscribe, . So yeah, I literally applied to everything that I could think of. So got a job that was cool. Started my first associate position like two weeks after I moved down here. And so at that point it was,It's like culture shock. Like all of a sudden I'm like a dentist in private practice and it's very different than being a dentist in the military. And all of a sudden you're like, oh, like people have to pay for the things that I'm telling them. Like it's just not all free and included. Yeah. And then they don't trust me.Like they think I'm just trying to make money off of them. And I'm like, no, like I'm telling you this because like, you need this, right? Like you need these fillings or you need this crown. And they're like, like, you just want me to pay for your Mercedes. I was like, dude, I drive a Volkswagen, but thank you.Michael: But I would like a Mercedes. So Sana: yes, those are expensive. Tell me about it. How do I ? So if you do this, actually you know what? You should let your tooth fall out. So then you need a, an extraction and then auto the input. And that'll help me pay. Michael: That'll help pay. Yeah. that was like a culture shock then, Sana: It was very like sticker shock and like, honestly, okay, coming from the military, like that was my first experience as a dentist was like dental school where everything's like $5 and nobody cares how you do it because you're a student and you're just trying to learn. And then it's the military where it's like everything's free because they're all soldiers and we're like serving the soldier.We're like getting the soldiers ready for going down range and like being deployable and whatever. and this is gonna sound really bad, but I'm gonna tell you guys the truth. I'm gonna say the truth. in the Army, I got paid exactly the same if I did a filling or I did a crown, or if I watched Game of Thrones in my office.Like, if I told you you needed a filling, it's because you really needed it. I would've preferred to be watching something in my office, I'm getting paid to like sit here and like type some things and like eat my food and like watch Netflix on my phone. I got paid the exact same.So like, yeah, for me, like that's kind of where I got my like treatment planning philosophies was like, oh, you absolutely need, like, you need this and so we're gonna do it. And I think that's, I mean, of course all dentists do that, right? Like, you need this, we're gonna do it. Some people are a little bit more aggressive on the treatment planning side.Some people are a little bit more conservative. I'm very conservative. Like, I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt. Like let's watch if we can. And if I'm like, no, like we can't watch 86 things like you, you need fillings. Sorry. Mm-hmm. . But I think that was kind of. . The switch for me was like, I'm telling people they need these things because they really need them.I wanna be watching tv. You need these fillings. I'm doing these fillings for you. So now I'm in the real world and people are like, well, you just want me to pay for your car. But I'm like, no, but you really just need these fillings. you're not paying for my car. I don't understand what's happening right now.And so it was, it was like a very like, weird, like and it was like, also like covid. And everybody's like, well, can you put your mask? I was like, I have two masks on. Thank you. what do you want from me? I don't understand what I'm a yellow banana suit. I have three masks on. I don't, I don't get it.Like, and you don't want this filling, and I don't want to do this filling. So I'm gonna get covid because I'm doing this filling on you. yeah, yeah. I have the short end of the stick here, guys. I don't want $26 and 15 cents from Humana for this filling, but you need it. So here we are. And like, yeah.So that was like deep dive, like into like private practice. , and I mean, I technically worked for like a corporate office mm-hmm. , and it was a, it was a different type of like, corporate, it wasn't like corporate, corporate, it was just like, like more private practice feel, but still corporate. I don't know if that makes sense.But Yeah. I mean, and there were some like really great things about it and some knots. So really great things about it. I did find myself, and maybe it's like my, innate leadership ability, I guess, if you wanna call it, or like my four years in the Army where I was like forced to be a leader.So now I'm always just like thinking of like, how can we do things better? How can we do this more productive, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. So I'm over here like, just turning this dude's practice around basically like a mini like owner. Like, okay, like guys, like, we need to like really hone in on our ordering.Like, why are we ordering 86 different types of composite? We don't need that. Like, we use two things. So let's like stick to those two things. Mm-hmm. , like whatever, like, just like really streamlining things and like, Switched the whole practice around. Everybody's like, wow, we like patients, staff.Everybody's like, we just love coming here. It's so great. And I'm like, oh, you're welcome guys. I'm And yeah, so then at that moment I was like, wait, I'm like doing this for somebody else. So like why don't I do this for me? And that's kind of like where like the whole like switch happened a little bit where I was like, well, I should, I could, I could do this for myself.Okay. So I'm also like very like squirrel brained. So like all of this is gonna connect, I promise this will all connect. It's connect. Yeah. It's connected. Yeah. So I'm gonna pause that story for a second. I'm gonna tell another story and then I'm gonna connect the two stories. Okay. Okay. So whoever, maybe if somebody like from the Texas State Board can like message me on Instagram and tell me how this happened, feel free.But when I was in the military, so I was in Oklahoma, which was right above Texas, and so I had my Texas license and my Oklahoma license. . I got my Texas license in 2017, just like for reference of timeframe. I got my Texas license and then all of a sudden I get a call from somebody and they were like, Hey, where from blah, blah, blah.Like real estate company. Like are you interested in like opening up your own practice? And like, and so, you know, we'd love to help you like find some space, whatever. Actually I think I can just say it like, it's fine. Cuz they helped me. This is why I ended it was Excite Realty. a, a healthcare realty firm or whatever.So they have an office in Texas. They have an office in Florida. So, calls me, this guy calls me, what was his name? Tristan, Tristan called me and I was like, no, Tristan, I'm in the Army. Like I am not looking to open my prac.Like, I'm literally like active duty military. Like I'm not opening a practice. Like, thank you. And I'm like also not very like. , please don't call me. Stop calling me. I was like, yeah, like, not right now. Tristan, thanks for calling. Like have a great day, whatever. Okay. He's like, all right, sounds good. I guess he like kept me on his list.Mm-hmm. , because he literally called me every October until 2021. Oh man. Yeah, he was like very persistent. Tristan was very persistent and so it's like 2017 all the way, 2021. So like at this point, so he calls me in 2021 and this time I was like, yo, I'm not even in Oklahoma anymore, bro. I don't even have my Texas license anymore.Like, so I like, at this point I was like a little bit more assertive also, I had an eight month old baby, so I was like probably sleep deprived. just all the things like, yeah, you know what? So I just was like, Kristen, stop calling me. So this was the first time in like, what, five years that I said it to him, Hey Tristan, listen, I'm not in Oklahoma.I'm not in Texas. I'm not gonna open a practice in Texas. Like I just, what? Can you take me off the call list? Like, thank you so much. He's like, oh doctor, real quick. Where are you? I was like, I live in Florida now. I live in Florida. And he was like, oh, we have a branch in Florida, bro. What? ? Michael: Yeah. I Sana: was like, Christine.I was like, and so, okay, fine. You know what? I was like, literally, and I remember this, I literally remember this because I was so, I was like nursing my daughter, she was eight months old. I'm sitting in the car at the outlet mall, like, so I don't remember my mother-in-law, somebody was in the mall and I was like, I'm just gonna sit in the car nurse her, like, just leave me alone.So, and I answered the phone to tell him, please stop calling me. And then he's like telling me like, well we have a, we have a location in Florida. And I'm like, Tristan, . Okay, what do I have to pay you? Like, let's just start there. Like what does this cost me? Like you keep telling me like, what does this cost me?And so this is like at that junction where I'm like doing all this for this other guy, like building up his practice and I'm like, I should do this for myself. Then Tristan calls me and I'm like, well, okay, maybe I should like entertain it. Like, okay, Tristan, how much does it cost? And he is like, oh, you don't pay anything.The landlord pays for it. I was like, this is Bri. Why did you start with that in 2017? Dude? open with that. Open with this doesn't cost you anything. Like maybe I would've been nicer for the last five years. Who would've thought? Yeah, so, okay, all right. I was like, all right, okay, let's give this the shot.And this was like kind of when my startup journey like began, oh no, sorry, this is October of 2020. So this is, yeah, 20, 23 years. Three years there. Mm-hmm. 20 17, 20 20, yeah. October of 2020. So I was like, okay, fine. Entertain me. That's fine. Let's see. So I gave him like what my like. to do my list was like what?Like what I want. Perfect practice, whatever. And like the place that I live is very like up and coming, so it's not like established. And there's a lot of like families coming in here. So like everybody from like California and New York. everybody that's like coming down here from there is like now moving to Wesley Chapel. So it's very like up and coming. So this is also where I live. And so I was like, Hey guys, like I want a practice like where I live.Okay. Like in retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have done that, but that's a whole other story. But I was like, I want something like close to home, like two minutes from my house, I can go home for lunch. Like this is great. Like that's what I want. So it's very specific. Is Michael: it right now two minutes from your house?Sana: five minutes from my house. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. Like we can't be that. so I gave him like this like list where I was like, this is like finding a unicorn, they won't be able to do this.Mm-hmm. . And I took, I was like, look, I really like my position. I'm making good money. I'm happy in what I'm doing. The thought has crossed my mind if the stars in the moon align, like, yeah, maybe I'll do it. So off you go, do your homework. Bye. So obviously like this area's up and coming, there's no practice acquisitions because everybody is a millennial dentist, so they're not retiring.Mm-hmm. , or they're like too young to be retiring. So there's no nothing to acquire around here. So it's all like, it has to be a startup. So we're looking, looking, looking. We found a few places like, you know, and so like the type of person I am, I'm always like prepared for like the other shoe to drop, right?So I told Tristan, all right, yeah, dude, put me in touch with your Florida guy. Let's do it whatever. Florida dude contacts me and then give him his homework. And I'm like, he's not gonna find anything, but that's fine. So I'm just waiting, like at some point I was like, this entire process will end somewhere.it won't ever complete because they won't find a location, we won't find the lease, the construction budget will be out of wac, like whatever, right? Like something's just not gonna align and then it won't happen. Mm-hmm. . So we started this search October of 2020 for reference. I signed my lease in July of 2021, October, 2020 to July of 2021.So, and we started like Lois and stuff in March of 2021. . So it took me a while. Mm-hmm. for us to like really just like get things together. and again, like I said, the entire time I'm waiting for like the other shoe to drop. So, yeah. So we like found a place, it was this really awesome, like in an ortho building, and I was like, oh, this is perfect.Like there's an orthodontist in this building, there's this like endo, there's perio, and then like, I can be here. Like this is cool. Like everybody I would refer to is like just right around me. Anyways, like that was the first LOI I put in, and that didn't go anywhere because the guy decided to like, keep it for himself.I'm like, bro, why would you waste my time? Like, yeah, it's fine, whatever. So then we put in like an L LOI at another place, which I had a feeling like it wasn't gonna work at that place, but I just like rolled with the punches. I'm like, all right, yeah, whatever, whatever. So we put in our l o I and in there in my head, like I had already put in there that I wanna have like cosmetic procedures.potentially Botox, fillers, whatever, that type of stuff. I wanna be able to do it at some point. Mm-hmm. . And they were like, yeah, no, you can't do that. Like, there's an ALTA in this plaza so you can't do cosmetic procedures. I'm like, what? Michael: Isn't Alta like just like hair? Or let's Sana: make up, I was like, I was like, because the, because they do free makeup if you buy $50 worth of makeup.And that's considered called is. Is that what like, wait, I have no idea. He like, wouldn't give me any insight. I was like, bro, what? Like literally I was just like, what? I was so confused and so like, I tried like a little bit to negotiate this leave. Mm-hmm. and I was like, ok, fine. I can look past that. Like this is like on the second floor and Okay.Like everybody knows how complicated dental plumbing is. Right? So the first floor, like whatever was below that space, was already like built out. Mm-hmm. . So we had told them like we would need to go through their ceiling. to do our plumbing, but we'll do it like after hours on the weekends. Like we will not disrupt business hours.And the landlord's like, Nope, not allowed. We're like, can we like ask the the person else it? I was like, no. He was like, no, not allowed. We're like, all right, well here's your l o I. Here's your lease. Bye. Like, okay, this. So like at that point I'm like, see guys, like this is why I'm not committed to anything.Like, cuz I knew what was gonna happen. Yeah. I already lost like two places at this point. I've spent like $5,000 on lease reviews to go nowhere. I'm like, well this is just really stupid. I'm like, this is a lot of money. And I was like, now I need to go work extra hours at my job. Like, this is dumb. Yeah. So then I found this.and we're like, okay, so we're doing the lease review. And like the landlord here, same thing was like, there was just like so much back and forth. They have never like leased out to a dentist. So they just trusted nothing because we don't have, like, I don't have like a solid business plan. It's like me, my word document that I made with all my projected things that I'm like, I can accomplish all of these things because I believe in myself and here's my business plan and this is what most dentists do and this is what's projected.And here you go, enjoy. Right? And they're like, yeah, no, that's like not real. Like this is all made up. And I'm like, you're right, it is. I made it all up. It was really great . And they're like, great. I made all that up. It's so great. I made it up on my kitchen table, so it's fine. Yeah. Um, yeah. And so that was very difficult for them to like, trust us.Like, trust me. Mm-hmm. , they're like, you won't be able to pay your rent. I was like, I mean, your rent's a little high, so, Couldn't Michael: negotiate that down a little bit. Negotiate, you're probably right. Sana: Little high's a little high, but whatever. so, yeah. So we ended up negotiating that lease and it worked out and I signed my lease July of 2021 and that was it.And then we signed the lease and we were here. Okay. So that's like one pause, that's like one story. We're gonna pause right there. Okay. Okay. So I have three kids by the way. Okay. So I, three kids. I have a 12 year old, I have a three-year-old and I have a nine month old. Yeah. So, yeah. So after my second, yes, so after I had my first two kids, I was like, yeah, like I'm not having, I'm not having any more kids.Like I can't. Maybe t m i, but whatever, like real life here it is. Like I had fertility problems, so like mm-hmm. , having my daughter was very difficult. And like after going through that, my husband are like, okay. Yeah. Like, okay, we're good. Like we got one boy, we got one girl. Like, it's good. Like we're done.Yeah. Okay. So like, that's fine. Right. Okay. Tell me why. Like August of 2021, I found out I was Michael: as soon as you, when did you sign the, in July of 2021. And then in August. How were you, talk to me about that thought process when that happened. Like how were you thinking in the sense of like, why me, why now? Or were you like, this is great, this is fantastic. Sana: No, I was like, so how do I get outta his leaseI was like, wait a minute. Ok. I was like, it's fine. Right? It's fine. We can get out of it. Like, dude, I signed a 15 year lease. it's a very long lease. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I was like, what? That can't be right. That's, that's not true. That's not true life. And it was, it was a very true life. And I remember when my, when I started with my consultant, he told me two things, do not make any big purchases and do not get pregnant.Who is your consultant? Mike Ncio. Next level consultant. Okay. Yeah, Michael: yeah, yeah. How do you like Sana: working with them? Oh my god, he was amazing. Awesome. I think I referred like everybody to him and he is awesome. So everybody who's watching this should also go call Mike because he is literally amazing. And all of this would not be here if it wasn't for him.because he got me through a lot of crap, like a lot like dude, I was like a hormonal person, right? Like my diapers are really Michael: expensive. Diapers are, they still aren't really expensive. They're expensive. And Sana: I just sleep trained My eight month old or how old is she? No, she's a year and a half. Oh God, no.My son now is nine months old. Kidding. Everything confused. Like that's how discombobulated I am. But yeah, no, Mike really helped me through a lot of stuff. And so I called him and I was like, Hey Mike, I have to tell you something. And I remember this like, he was the, besides my husband, who also didn't believe me that I was pregnant.Mike was the second person that I told that I was pregnant. And he also didn't believe me. He like thought I was joking. Yeah. And I was like, no, I'm not. Like I'm, I'm serious. I'm so serious. p my entire like buildout, I was also building a human inside my body. That was kind. Yeah. So, yes.Michael: That's pretty intense. Mm. That's Sana: okay. And so we opened in March of 2022. My son was born on four 20 of 2022. Michael: Yeah. Sana: Wait, did you catch his Michael: birthday April? Oh, oh, okay. I was like, I thought just a month later, I don't get it, but No, yeah, yeah, I get it. Sana: But yes, it was a month later, literally, so like I opened and it was, I was like literally nine months pregnant when I opened.And then I had my son a week a month later, and then two weeks after I had him, you better believe I did 17 fillings on my first day back, man. Michael: Yeah. So, okay. So you opened your practice, right? Yeah. And we can talk about, like, a little bit about the whole part of, uh, opening up. I actually wanted to go back a little bit and talk about that generational trauma, but we can do that another episode or something like that.But when it comes to the opening up the practice and now you're, how many months or years open now? Sana: so 11 months open now. Michael: Okay. And has, how does the trajectory look? Has it been like Sana: okay, so it was like this, okay, so we are like hyping up to like open, like open, and then it's like give birth, boom,Okay, cool. So it's like, okay, so, so we're here like, oh, everything's really cool. People like this pregnant dentist. Like, okay, she's so cute. Oh my God, you're having a baby. Oh, practice. We're so proud of you have a baby. Literally like rapid decline. And then I came, so I came back from maternity leave, like I came back from maternity.Okay. Just two weeks count as maternity leave. No, it doesn't. I came back from giving birth. Yeah, right. 10 days later. Okay. I was like, I'll be back from vacation guys. I'll be our B. Just, yeah. Don't let anything break when I, you know, until I get back. Literally. . So then when I got back I was only seeing patients like once a week because I was like, guys, I just had a baby.Like I need to heal a little bit. So like Michael: need to heal. You just gave life, you need to heal a little bit. Sana: Also some stitches like, don't mind me, but like I, you know, one day a week. Yeah. So came back one day a week and then in, so that was like all of May. I was here for one day a week and then in June is when I came back, like came back from maternity leave.So that was like three days a week. And then in May I'm just like trying to like build this back up like very slowly to like get ready for June. So we're like building back up. And then my hygienist, cause I hired a hygienist cause I hate h sorry, hygienist, but like, it's probably like for the benefit of my patients that everybody doesn't get a deep cleaning.Cuz if I see them, that's what they would get. Oh. Because it's I don't have the hands of an angel. So. . I have a hygienist against all the things that everybody says for startups, you don't need it, do your own hygiene, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Anyways, I got a hygienist, so literally as I'm like recovering from birth giving, she gives me her notice cuz she's like, Hey.Yeah, right. Freaking heartland. She was like, Hey Doc, like I need benefits and this Heartland office is gonna like give me medical insurance for my kid. And I was like, you know, like I respect that. Mm-hmm. and I like, can't be mad at you for it. So thank you for the couple of days that you gave me. Good luck.I'll send you your W2 next year. And, uh, how many Michael: employees at this time have you had? Sana: okay. I feel like I have a lot of employees. Again, another topic for another day because against all startup things, I think I have like, I'm like, just like way overstaffed, but like in a good way. How many do you have right now?Oh my God. Okay. Lemme count. I'm my office manager, Diana. I have my treatment coordinator who is like double serving as my assistant right now because long story short, my assistant quit last week, so that was kind of cool. Anyways, so my treatment coordinator Casie, so it's two.Mm-hmm. . Then I have my hygienist, three, I have my life assistant. That's a whole other topic for another Michael: life assistant you said? Yes. Okay. And she works at the practice? Sana: Yeah, she does like things for me here and then she would like do things for me, like all the errands that I would need to do, like all like a bunch of like admin stuff that like, it's not like office manager stuff, it's just like more like me stuff, but like, I just like responding to emails and like she runs my social media and like just that kind of stuff.Okay. But now since last week we've had a lot of changes, so now she's at the front desk, so she's. receptionist also now. Okay. She's like, my life is slash office receptionist. That's four. And then I have a nurse practitioner because I'm also a med spa. So that's a whole other topic. Yes. So five. And then my nurse practitioner has a medical assistant, so that's six.Michael: Okay. So you have six employees in total. Why'd you decide to become a med spa? How did you like H? How's that coming along? The med spa Sana: part? Oh my god. It's like a whole other story. Okay. Okay. So we'll back up. So when I was making this like concept, right? Mm-hmm. , people hate the dentist. People love the spa.So I was like, oh yeah, like we'll make this like dental experience, very spa-like that was like the goal spa-like dental experience. So then I'm doing my branding and all this stuff, so I'm like, oh yeah, dental studio and spa. So like in my head when I'm like, it's a spa dental studio. There's aromatherapies, you get fuzzy blankets, you get noise canceling headphones.Like all the millennial stuff, right? Like all the millennial things. Yeah. And that's what, that's what it was in my head. And then I started like doing all this, like marketing and stuff and people are like, so what's the spa? And I'm like, it's the fuzzy blanket. and this. Branded Chapstick, Oh, you wanted a facial? Yeah. I don't have that. Sorry. Oh, Michael: okay. Sana: Oh, you want a massage? Yeah, we don't do those here. Sorry. that's how it started. I was like, okay, so people are respecting a spa, like, okay, sounds good. So like, eight months pregnant, opening a scratch startup, and people want a freaking spa.So I'm like, what the heck? What? So I had like, I have four, I had four empty ops. Cause so my office has seven ops. I got equipment for three, and then I had four empty ones. I was like, all right, we're gonna rent one of these out to an esthetician. There you go. Wesley Chapel, here's your facial. Come and get one.There you go. Yeah. , I rented it, I rented out a room to an esthetician and then, so that was whatever, like, I'm, I wasn't like really in charge of anything. Like she did her own thing. It was just like rented space. And I was like, oh, thanks for like the $500 for my super expensive rent. Yeah. Put that Michael: towards that as one.Wait real quick. Put a timeout. How much is Sana: rent? Oh my God. Stop. We really wanna know. It's like $8,000. Michael: How many, how many ops do you have? Seven. Are they all plumbed and, oh, okay. Sana: But that's just my rent. Like I'm just paying this guy to pay his mortgage. Michael: Was there any free rent? Six months. What was your tie?Sana: Allowance?Oh my god. What was it? 72,000. Not a lot of thousands. Not Michael: enough . Not a lot of thousands. I'm looking to be a millionaire. Not a thousandaire. What is wrong with that man? Like, what is Sana: this? I was like, dude, I was like, I'm signing a 15 year lease, 15 years. I was like, the baby that's in my stomach will be 15 years old.Oh yeah. Like he'll be getting his license. That's how long this lease is. Okay, thank you. Michael: So here's showing 2000. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So un paused back to the, the spot. Sana: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then I got the esthetician and then people were getting facials and that was cool. And then I was like, oh, I wanna do Botox and fillers and like I had taken a course for it, but I'm the type of person, like I'm a perfectionist, like, I don't wanna do it.but I know people want Botox and fillers. I kind of nervous, so I got a nurse practitioner. I was like, ah, like one day a week, just like, come, like, Botox these people up. Mm-hmm. , we started doing that. And then I guess like all the laser reps in the United States, just, I, I don't, I don't understand, like, do they have like a, oh, this person advertised that they do Botox.Let's go attack them with our sales rep, Venus Literally they would like just, they would just show up. They would just show up at the front desk. this is before my therapist taught me that I have to put boundaries. Okay. So like, I've, I've done a lot of therapy in my life. Hang out again.Michael: Pause you going, you going to therapy? Hell yeah. What, when did you start going? Sana: So I was in therapy before When I went through like all the oh my god, there's like so much you don't know about me, but , , there's a lot. I just met you right now. just met me.There's so much you don't know about me. But, so I went through like all this stuff, like in high school, like in college, whatever, like teen mom, like okay, like all this like traumatic, traumatic stuff, right? So like, just like a synopsis, like I'm a survivor of like domestic abuse and sexual assault, right?So like that's like a lot of my traumas. And so I was going to therapy before, but I was like lying in therapy and like just F y I, if you lie in therapy, it doesn't work. So I was lying in therapy and it didn't work very well. So I stopped going to therapy and then I restarted therapy last year maybe.Yeah, I started restarted therapy last year and now I have this really awesome therapist who's like a mom therapist. and she just like understands like working moms. Anyways, Michael: my therapist what, real quick, what made you want to start therapy? Sana: as you can tell, I have the brain of a squirrel and I have a lot of things I need to talk about.And my husband doesn't understand anything about dentistry. He also doesn't understand anything about owning a business. He also is not a mom. And I just like, I basically talk to patients. I talk to my staff, I talk to my kids, I talk to my husband and that's it. I was like, I need an outlet.Like also I have all of these like negative coping mechanisms and I have zero boundaries, so I literally gotta get my together. negative coping mechanism is basically like, , I'll just like let people just do whatever and I like, don't, I just like, I'm like, OK, sounds good. Like I'm very like PE people pleaser. Even if I'm like, no, like I don't wanna do that. Like, or I'm like always just like preparing for the worst. So like, I'll be like in this like really great like celebratory moment and I'm like, I need to prepare for like the apocalypse.And it's like, dude, we're literally just eating Taco Bell. Can you relax? Yeah. And well, no I can't, I can't celebrate this Mexican pizza comeback right now. . I'm afraid that the Mexican pizza will also then be taken off the menu. So the Michael: Mexican pizza combo, , it didn't get taken off. Didn't it again? Or, I dunno.It's Sana: not taken off. Okay. Then it came back and now. , I'm supposed to celebrate this comeback of the Mexican pizza, but in my head I know that they will take it away again. Michael: Okay, . So those are the negative coping mechanisms. What I mean, ok, I Sana: get you, I get you Like very, more like dramatic, like other types of things, but that's just like me trying to again, like deflect and make something a joke, like that's another negative coping mechanism.I just make all this serious stinky stuff a joke all the time and I'm like, it's, it's fine. It's ok. It's ok. I like, you know, like that meme where it's like everything's on fire around Michael: other guy. Like, it's fine. This is fine. This is fine. Sana: It's, it's fine. Yeah. That's like me as a person. Michael: Okay. Okay. Okay. So un pause, fast, fast forward back Sana: to the, the med spa and the laser reps and having no boundaries.Like, I would be like, oh yeah, if somebody wants to like, come talk to me, like, yeah, just let them know. Whatever. Right? So I'm like getting pulled out of the operatory. They're like, oh, doc, so and so wants to talk to you, so and so called for you. And I'm like, oh, cool. Ok. And I'm like, wait, I can't talk to all these people.Like I just, I can't do it. And I'm also really bad at saying no. So somehow these guys come in, then they convince me with all their sales preppiness that I need a Morpheus machine. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. I wanna get rid of my double G. So, you're right. Let's get a amorphous, it's fine. Let's do it.Okay. That's a lot of thousands of dollars. Okay. Sounds good. Did you get it? Yeah, I, I got it. Michael: Man, their sales preppiness is good. Huh? Sana: Or my boundaries are lacking. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Michael: Like that's true. You could have just been so looking at IT app, but what have you improved that or what, what's going on with Sana: that?Yeah. No, I've improved it. I stopped buying stuff. I've been cut off, so I'm not buying things anymore. Mm-hmm. , but I've also. . I was just, I just was looking like, where is, how is society going? Like what's like on the up and on, the up and up and it's med spas that is on the up and up, right?Mm-hmm. , everybody wants to be in aesthetics and cosmetics and this and that and whatever. And so I'm like, all right, well people are expecting a spa, so we're gonna make it a freaking spa and we're gonna become a med spa. Like, that's it. We're doing it. I don't wanna be like, oh yeah, come get your facial.Like, no, you can go down to the salon suite down there. Go get your facial over there. Mm-hmm. , we have lasers here. We have a medical director that's this, this person is the medical director. Like we do medical things here. So it just like was a really quick, like all of a sudden it started as Botox and fillers.Then all these reps are coming in and they're like telling me about all this like, cool stuff. And I'm like, wait, like why aren't we incorporating this? Like that just like makes natural sense, right? And then my practitioner, she used to work at another med spa, she had all that experience and I was, I was like asking her, I was like, well, what could we do to like build this side of the office?&

durée : 01:00:59 - Les Nuits de France Culture - par : Albane Penaranda - Comment tenir un pari que l'on sait intenable ? Comment faire un film consacré à Georges Bataille et à son œuvre ? En 1997, dans les "Nuits magnétiques" André S. Labarthe invitait l'auditeur à une plongée dans les réflexions et les doutes d'un cinéaste confronté à un sujet réputé impossible. - invités : André S. Labarthe; Georges Bataille

La récente affaire de ce ballon chinois survolant le territoire américain et suspecté de vouloir recueillir des informations, a été amplement relatée par les médias du monde entier. Mais l'utilisation de ballons espions est loin d'être une nouveauté. Et c'est à la France qu'il faut attribuer leur invention. En effet, le premier ballon de ce type a pris son envol en 1794. Soit seulement onze ans après le premier vol dans un ballon à air chaud organisé par les frères Montgolfier. Ce ballon, baptisé l'"Entreprenant", avait été conçu par un chimiste, Jean-Marie-Joseph Coutelle, qui avait pris la direction d'une compagnie militaire d'aérostiers. Gonflé à l'hydrogène, ce ballon pouvait emporter sa nacelle jusqu'à une hauteur de 500 mètres. À cette époque, la France révolutionnaire est en guerre contre une partie de l'Europe. On décide donc d'utiliser l'"Entreprenant" pour repérer les mouvements des troupes ennemies. Les observations faites par les aérostiers, au cours de la bataille de Fleurus, le 26 juin 1794, ont contribué à la victoire de l'armée française. Ces ballons espions, chargés de la reconnaissance de l'armée adverse, seront souvent utilisés par la suite. Surtout lancés par les Nordistes, on en voit plusieurs survoler les champs de bataille de la guerre de Sécession. Il ne s'agit d'ailleurs pas seulement de ballons en vol libre. Certains sont des ballons captifs, rattachés au sol par un câble. Ces ballons jouent aussi un rôle important durant la guerre franco-prussienne de 1870, et notamment pendant le siège de Paris. En effet, ils devaient s'élever de la capitale pour surveiller l'évolution des troupes ennemies. Mais ils servent aussi à convoyer le courrier et l'un d'eux transporte même le ministre de l'Intérieur, Léon Gambetta, vers la province, où il doit animer la résistance. On verra ces ballons réapparaître, durant la Première Guerre mondiale, où ils sont utilisés par les Allemands pour observer les lignes ennemies. Ces ballons captifs se montrent plus stables et leur forme allongée leur vaut le surnom de "saucisses", donné par les soldats français. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

durée : 00:03:57 - Le journal de presque 17h17 - par : Charline Vanhoenacker, Alex Vizorek - Gérard Larcher a déclaré “Le Sénat ira au bout du débat sur les retraites”, selon une étude les ultra-riches ont perdu 10% de leur fortune en 2022, et la diffusion de CNews a été interrompue hier pendant 40 minutes, c'est l'actu du jour !

La nature n'est pas un joli décor Comment faire du jardin un espace politique ? Soit une manière de mieux comprendre la catastrophe écologique en cours - et d'y résister. Après l'épisode « Vite, un jardin ! » qui sondait la notion de rupture métabolique pour expliquer comment les citadins d'aujourd'hui se retrouvent complètement hors-sol, coupés de la nature et de son fonctionnement, Delphine Saltel part à la recherche de solutions pratiques. Elle part en excursion dans l'Yonne pour découvrir le jardin du pépiniériste-activiste Eric Lenoir. Auteur du « Grand traité du jardin punk », une sorte d'anti-manuel de jardinage, il défend une autre manière de cultiver la terre et de faire pousser des plantes. Dans son jardin, pas de pelouse, de haies de thuya ni de jolies plates-bandes décoratives. Eric Lenoir prend le temps de ne rien faire. Tel le punk à chien posté sur le bitume, il observe et essaie de comprendre ce qui se passe autour de lui. À rebours de l'agitation et des automatismes culturels, il se met à l'écoute du sol, des espèces végétales et animales qui y vivent. Comment les chardons aident le saule marsault à résister au manque d'eau ? Pourquoi tel coléoptère favorise la présence d'un champignon essentiel à la connexion souterraine des racines des feuillus ? Une démonstration de patience punk et d'humilité face à la complexité fabuleuse des écosystèmes. Avec Eric Lenoir pépiniériste et jardinier, auteur du « Grand traité du jardin punk »Et Hervé Brunon, Historien des jardins et du paysage, directeur de recherche au CNRS (Centre André Chastel, Paris). Bibliographie :- Eric Lenoir, « Grand traité du jardin Punk », Éditions Terre Vivante, 2021- Karel Capek, « L'année du jardinier », Éditions de l'Aube, 2021- Hervé Brunon, « L'intime de l'humus », dans Jardins [Catalogue de l'exposition de Paris, Galeries nationales du Grand palais, 2017]- Revue Les carnets du paysage Vivons heureux avant la fin du mondeComment s'habiller, échanger, s'aimer dans les années 20 ? Pour se bricoler une morale minimale en des temps de crises sociale et écologique, Delphine Saltel explore chaque mois nos incohérences et les solutions possibles. Mêlant questionnement personnel, tribulations domestiques, reportages et entretiens avec des chercheurs et des activistes, ce podcast veut alerter, éveiller et rassurer sur un autre monde possible. Une production ARTE Radio. Enregistrements : juillet 22-février 23 - Texte, voix, prises de son & montage : Delphine Saltel - Réalisation & mixage : Solène Moulin - Musiques originales : Solène Moulin, Arnaud Forest - Illustration : Raphaelle Macaron - Production : ARTE Radio - Solène Moulin, Arnaud Forest

Les marques de prêt à porter populaires ont été très touchées par la crise sanitaire et l'inflation, tandis que les marques de luxe voient leurs bénéfices exploser. Nicolas Bouzou fait le point sur une question d'actualité économique.

La mine d'or en question, c'est notre vessie. Chaque jour sur Terre, on évacue 10 milliards de litres d'urine. Soit entre 1,5 litres et 2 litres par jour et par personne. Sur une vie, ça représente de quoi remplir une piscine. Olympique même pour certaines puisque les femmes ont une plus grosse vessie que les hommes. Et c'est de l'or, car nos toilettes peuvent sauver la planète. Je ne parle pas "chasse d'eau" car là pour le coup c'est le contraire, chaque jour c'est 27 litres d'eau potable que chaque Français gaspille dans les toilettes. En revanche, recycler notre urine, ça c'est vraiment écolo ! Tous les jours à 6h50 sur RTL, Florian Gazan révèle une histoire insolite et surprenante, liée à l'actualité.

durée : 00:11:05 - L'invité de 7h50 - par : Léa Salamé - Kirill Serebrennikov, réalisateur, est l'invité de 7h50 pour son film "La Femme de Tchaïkovski".

Bonne nouvelle, ce double jaune est naturel. Il n'est pas le résultat de croisements fous ou d'hormones malfaisantes. Pour un double jaune il vous faut une jeune poule qui pond de très gros oeufs. Dans le corps de la poule, ls futurs jaunes sont acheminés par un conduit qu'on appelle un oviducte. Les futurs jaunes passent cet ovidcute et sont alors entourés de blancs et une coquille se forme autour. Donc dans cet oviducte, on retrouve les jaunes à intervalles réguliers aux différentes étapes, un peu comme une chaîne d'assemblage et il arrive parfois que deux jaunes se retrouvent ensembles. Soit car le premier était trop lent ou le deuxième trop rapide. Bref, un embouteillage, ni plus ni moins.  Les deux jaunes vont alors finir leur chemin enemble aux différentes étapes pour terminer dans la même coquille. Voilà pourquoi ce sont les jeunes poules qui sont sujettes à ça, c'est tout simplement le temps que la machine se mette en place et se rôde. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

N°283 / 5 février 2023Connaissez-vous notre site ? www.lenouvelespritpublic.frUne émission de Philippe Meyer, enregistrée en public à l'École alsacienne le 5 février 2023.Avec cette semaine :Jean-Louis Bourlanges, président de la Commission des Affaires étrangères de l'Assemblée nationale.François Bujon de l'Estang, ambassadeur de France.Béatrice Giblin, directrice de la revue Hérodote et fondatrice de l'Institut Français de Géopolitique.Richard Werly, correspondant à Paris du quotidien helvétique Blick. LA RÉFORME DES RETRAITES : SORTIE, ISSUE DE SECOURS, ENLISEMENT ?Dès ce lundi, les députés et sénateurs ont tenté de modifier le très contesté projet de loi sur la réforme des retraites qui prévoit de reculer de 62 à 64 ans l'âge de départ à la retraite. Plus de 20.000 amendements ont été déposés (dont 18.000 par la NUPES) avant l'arrivée du texte à l'Assemblée. Mais les délais sont comptés, car le gouvernement a inclus cette réforme dans un Projet de loi de finance rectificative de la sécurité sociale, ce qui contraint légalement les parlementaires à voter le projet de loi en 50 jours calendaires. Si le 26 mars 2023, le Parlement n'a pas définitivement adopté le projet de loi, la Constitution permet au gouvernement de mettre en œuvre la réforme par ordonnance. Ainsi, la réforme des retraites devrait entrer en vigueur le 1er septembre 2023, si tout se déroule tel que le gouvernement l'a prévu.Dans la rue, le 31 janvier, la colère contre la réforme des retraites n'a montré aucun signe de fléchissement. Plus d'1 million de Français – 1,27 million, selon le ministère de l'intérieur, plus de 2,5 millions selon les syndicats – ont de nouveau protesté contre le projet de l'exécutif. « C'est une des plus grandes manifestations organisées dans notre pays depuis des dizaines d'années », a déclaré Laurent Berger, le numéro un de la CFDT. Si davantage de monde est descendu dans la rue, le nombre de grévistes a reculé dans plusieurs secteurs clefs, comme dans celui de l'éducation nationale, à la SNCF ou chez EDF.De nouvelles grèves sont déjà annoncées dans les ports, raffineries et centrales électriques à partir du 6 février. Chez les cheminots, ce sera le 7 et le 8, prélude à un préavis reconductible « dès la mi-février », ont prévenu la CGT et SUD. Soit pendant les vacances d'hiver et son grand weekend de chassé-croisé du 18-19.Dans un éditorial de la République des Pyrénées, Jean-Marcel Bouguereau rappelle une note de la fondation Jean-Jaurès qui, en juillet dernier, soulignait que le rapport des Français à leur travail a été profondément chamboulé par la crise sanitaire. Les salariés aspirent à trouver un bon équilibre entre vie personnelle et vie professionnelle. Des attentes déjà présentes avant la pandémie, mais pour lesquelles le Covid a joué un rôle de catalyseur, « transformant des aspirations en priorité ». Si l'hebdomadaire allemand Der Spiegel titre en couverture « Les Français sont-ils paresseux ? », (mais répond par la négative dans ses pages intérieures), on observera que la Fédération allemande de la métallurgie a adopté une durée hebdomadaire de travail de 28 heures et constaté un maintien de la productivité. « La puissance des réactions suscitées par la réforme des retraites ne s'explique pas seulement par le report de l'âge légal du départ en retraite de 62 à 64 ans. Elle jette une lumière crue sur l'ampleur de la crise de sens du travail en France » conclut l'éditorialiste.Vous pouvez consulter notre politique de confidentialité sur https://art19.com/privacy ainsi que la notice de confidentialité de la Californie sur https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Après les chars lourds, les avions de combat. Qui en livrera à l'Ukraine? Pour l'instant Américains, Britanniques et Allemands refusent mais la France ne ferme pas la porte, tandis que la Pologne, la Slovaquie et les Pays-Bas se disent déjà prêts à envoyer des F-16 à Kiev. L'illusion de paix dans laquelle nous vivions depuis la fin de la Seconde Guerre mondiale s'est évanouie. Les armées, dont les envergures et les budgets ont été réduits, sont redevenues un des enjeux majeurs des orientations politiques des pays occidentaux. Le 20 janvier 2023, en visite sur la base militaire de Mont-de-Marsan, dans les Landes, Emmanuel Macron a –entre autres– annoncé une forte hausse du budget du renseignement militaire, mais surtout une enveloppe de 400 milliards d'euros pour l'armée française sur la période 2024-2030... Soit un tiers de plus que ce que prévoyait la loi de programmation militaire. Cette semaine, nous allons nous intéresser aux moyens militaires qui sont ceux des pays européens, et aux éventuels besoins qui se présenteraient. Le monde devant soi est un podcast hebdomadaire d'actualité internationale présenté par Christophe Carron, avec Jean-Marie Colombani, directeur de la publication de Slate.fr, Alain Frachon, éditorialiste au Monde spécialisé dans les questions internationales. Direction et production éditoriale: Christophe Carron Prise de son, montage et réalisation: Aurélie Rodrigues Présentation: Christophe Carron Musique: «True Messiah», DJ Freedem Si vous aimez Le monde devant soi, pensez à l'exprimer en nous donnant la note maximale sur votre plateforme de podcast préférée, en en parlant autour de vous et en laissant vos commentaires sur les réseaux sociaux. Suivez Slate Podcasts sur Facebook et Instagram.

durée : 00:59:58 - Le 13/14 - par : Bruno DUVIC - Créé en 2013 après l'affaire Cahuzac, le parquet national financier a publié de nouvelles lignes directrices sur les négociations de la convention judiciaire d'intérêt public. Soit inciter les entreprises à se dénoncer en cas de fraude fiscale et choisir une amende plutôt qu'une poursuite pénale.

Épisode 917 : Le Digital report 2023 vous donne des chiffres consolidés sur le monde entier pour l'évolution des usages digitaux et dans notre cas pour les réseaux sociaux. On l'a épluché pour vous !Ca existe maintenant depuis plusieurs années et c'est une étude que nous suivons de près d'année en année. Bref c'est du lourd ! Vous pouvez vous coltiner les 465 pages du rapport ou sinon écouter cette épisode qui devrait vous donner les grandes lignes de ce qu'il faut retenir.Si vous aimez la lecture, le rapport est ici—Les internautes font du tri dans leurs pratiques digitalesLe rapport 2023 nous explique que l'internaute type dans le monde a en réduit son utilisation quotidienne d'Internet. En 2022, l'internaute type a passé en moyenne 6h37 par jour sur le web soit 20 minutes de moins qu'en 2021.Le taux d'utilisation au quotidien est de retour sur les bases des chiffres de 2019 avant la podémie. Les internautes font du tri dans leurs pratiques digitales et privilégient le social au web—Mais l'utilisation des réseaux sociaux continue d'augmenterLe temps passé en ligne baisse mais celui dédié aux réseaux sociaux continue de progresser.Les internautes français passent en moyenne 1h55 par jour sur les réseaux sociaux. A noter que la moyenne mondiale se situe à 2h30 ! Soit 40 minutes de plus que le temps consacré à la télévision.La taux de pénétration du marché est énorme. En France, 84% de la population est utilisatrice des réseaux sociaux.Plus que jamais, l'influence des médias sociaux sur notre façon de vivre est massive. Pour se connecter, se divertir, rechercher de l'information ou acheter.—Les réseaux sociaux en passe de remplacer les moteurs de rechercheLes jeunes de 16 à 34 ans sont plus susceptibles d'utiliser les réseaux sociaux lorsqu'ils cherchent des informations sur les marques.48 % disent privilégier les réseaux sociaux contre 45 % pour les moteurs de recherche.—Un déplacement notable des investissements publicitaires vers le social mediaForcément cette croissance d'usage a des impacts sur les investissements des annonceurs. Les investissements dans les publicités sur les médias sociaux ont explosé depuis l'apparition du COVID-19. Le rapport parle aujourd'hui d'un montant estimé à 226 milliards de dollars en 2022.—La guerre des plateformes social media continueFacebook reste en tête au niveau mondial. La plateforme compte désormais 2,958 milliards d'utilisateurs actifs mensuels. 37 % de la population mondiale totale !On trouve ensuite Youtube et WhatsApp.Instagram se classe 4ème avec 2 milliards d'utilisateurs actifs mensuels. Une grosse progression en 2022.TikTok passe la barre du milliard d'utilisateur en 2022.—L'overlapse social media reste fortL'internaute français type utilise en moyenne 5,7 plateformes social media simultanément. Ou en tout cas est abonné à 5 ou 6 plateformes.Concrètement les utilisateurs de TikTok sont seulement 0,1% à n'utiliser que TikTok. Ca veut dire beaucoup lorsqu'on envisage sa stratégie social media cross plateformes.—Le podcast a le vent en poupeEn ce qui concerne les podcasts, 1 internaute sur 5 déclare écouter des podcasts chaque semaine. Le chiffre est bien en dessous quand on regarde spécifiquement la France. Nous sommes seulement 14,4% à écouter des podcasts chaque semaine.Cela représente en moyenne un peu plus 1 heure par jour à écouter du podcast.. . . Le Super Daily est le podcast quotidien sur les réseaux sociaux. Il est fabriqué avec une pluie d'amour par les équipes de Supernatifs.Nous sommes une agence social media basée à Lyon : https://supernatifs.com/. Ensemble, nous aidons les entreprises à créer des relations durables et rentables avec leurs audiences. Ensemble, nous inventons, produisons et diffusons des contenus qui engagent vos collaborateurs, vos prospects et vos consommateurs.

N°282 / 29 janvier 2023Connaissez-vous notre site ? www.lenouvelespritpublic.frUne émission de Philippe Meyer, enregistrée au studio l'Arrière-boutique le 27 janvier 2023.Avec cette semaine :François Bujon de l'Estang, ambassadeur de France.Nicole Gnesotto, vice-présidente de l'Institut Jacques Delors.Marc-Olivier Padis, directeur des études de la fondation Terra Nova.Lucile Schmid, vice-présidente de La Fabrique écologique et membre du comité de rédaction de la revue Esprit. QUELLE POLITIQUE DE DÉFENSE ?A Toulon, le 9 novembre, le président de la République a présenté la nouvelle Revue nationale stratégique. Rédigée en urgence pour tirer des leçons du conflit en Ukraine, elle constitue une première étape avant les débats sur la prochaine loi de programmation militaire 2024-2030. Le document liste dix objectifs stratégiques pour la défense des intérêts français, du maintien de la crédibilité de la dissuasion jusqu'au renforcement de la résilience nationale. Les fonctions stratégiques consacrées à l'anticipation, la dissuasion, la protection, la prévention et l'intervention sont élargies à l'influence, en étroite coopération avec la diplomatie. Elles se déclinent notamment dans la modernisation de la dissuasion nucléaire, la capacité à conduire la guerre de haute intensité, l'affirmation comme un acteur cyber de premier rang, la riposte aux menaces hybrides, la résilience de la nation et la mobilisation de l'économie au service de la défense. Le président a énuméré les conditions nécessaires pour que la France reste une « puissance d'équilibres » qui ne soit « ni alignée ni vassalisée ». La République populaire de Chine est désignée très clairement comme la future puissance ennemie des Occidentaux, du fait de sa volonté de déstabiliser le leadership mondial occidental ainsi que la gouvernance mondiale. Désormais, la lutte anti-terroriste n'est plus la priorité numéro un, mais c'est le durcissement des armées en vue d'une possible participation à un conflit majeur qui dictera la prochaine loi de programmation militaire. En Afrique, la France veut changer de modèle pour n'agir qu'à la demande des autorités africaines et seulement en appui de leurs armées. Il s'agit de basculer les forces françaises vers l'Est, avec la volonté d'inscrire la France comme un partenaire de premier plan de l'OTAN et de l'Europe. Une page se tourne.Afin de mettre en œuvre cette stratégie, le 20 janvier, sur la base de Mont-de-Marsan, le Président a présenté les grandes orientations de la loi de programmation militaire (LPM). Les armées françaises bénéficieront d'un budget de 413 milliards d'euros (400 milliards de crédits budgétaires et 13 milliards de recettes extra-budgétaires), sur la période 2024-2030. Soit 40% de plus que l'enveloppe de la précédente LPM et une moyenne de 59 milliards d'euros par an consacrés aux dépenses militaires. « En 2030, le budget des armées aura doublé depuis 2017 », a tweeté le 20 janvier le ministre des Armées, Sébastien Lecornu. Afin de pouvoir anticiper et conserver une autonomie de décision, le président a promis une très forte hausse du budget alloué au renseignement militaire. Soit près de 60% sur la période 2024-2030. Emmanuel Macron souhaite en particulier la mise en place d'une stratégie nationale d'influence pour mieux protéger le pays contre les attaques hybrides, et notamment les attaques informationnelles. Il utilise le terme de « transformation » pour caractériser cette nouvelle LPM, après que la précédente (2019-2023) a été qualifiée de « réparation ».Le projet de loi de programmation militaire devrait être déposé courant mars à l'Assemblée nationale, en vue d'une adoption avant le 14 juillet.***LE RETOUR DU PROTECTIONNISMEAprès quarante ans de mondialisation, les Etats se mettent à protéger au niveau national des pans entiers de leurs industries et de leurs économies. Dès la crise de 2008, provoquée par une défaillance du système financier américain, les vieux réflexes protectionnistes avaient déjà refait surface. En 2013, les Chinois avaient programmé des centaines de milliards de dollars d'aide publique pour déployer, jusqu'en 2025, la chaîne complète de fabrication des semi-conducteurs de demain. Depuis trois ans, avec le Covid, la guerre en Ukraine, la transition climatique, un même mot d'ordre s'est imposé, de Pékin à Washington : celui de protéger les populations, mais aussi les marchés, des aléas extérieurs. Classiquement, le protectionnisme définit une politique qui vise à diminuer les importations. Le concept s'est élargi ces derniers temps jusqu'à embrasser toute mesure de soutien national dont l'augmentation des tarifs douaniers, la distribution de subventions, les mesures réglementaires ciblées, les politiques de soutien à l'industrie et à l'innovation... Avec un objectif principal : fabriquer soi-même les produits incontournables pour assurer croissance et souveraineté. Le prix à la consommation n'est plus l'unique critère du succès d'un service ou d'un bien. Les conditions de production comptent aussi notamment le souci de l'environnement, du maintien de l'emploi sur place, du raccourcissement des chaînes de production.Aux États-Unis, l'Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) de Joe Biden, visant à faciliter la transition énergétique, entré en vigueur le 1er janvier est doté de 369 milliards de dollars de subventions, de primes, d'exemption d'impôts pour les fabricants de batteries et de voitures électriques à condition qu'elles soient, les unes et les autres, assemblées aux Etats-Unis. Cette politique industrielle volontariste a suscité l'inquiétude des Européens, car l'IRA risque d'entraîner une diminution des exportations vers les Etats-Unis sur les produits aidés, une moindre attractivité de l'Europe en termes d'investissements étrangers et des délocalisations vers les Etats-Unis. A Bruxelles, une série de lois ont été adoptées contre les entreprises étrangères dopées aux subventions, contre la coercition économique, sur la réciprocité des marchés publics et sur la nécessité de protéger ses intérêts en cas de pénurie mondiale. On y parle désormais relocalisation, réindustrialisation, politique industrielle commune et même souveraineté économique. A Davos, le 17 janvier, la présidente de la Commission européenne a annoncé une législation sur une « industrie à zéro émission nette ». Elle a proposé la création d'un « fonds de souveraineté » européen qui permette l'accès de tous à des moyens comparables, y compris des « aides anti-délocalisation ». Pas question à ce stade de lever de nouveaux emprunts communs, après le plan de relance massif post-Covid à 750 milliards d'euros. Il s'agirait plutôt de recycler et de réorienter des reliquats de ce fonds, ainsi que des ressources du budget de l'UE. La Commission doit affiner ses propositions d'ici au début février et les chefs d'État et de gouvernements tenteront de trouver un accord lors d'un sommet extraordinaire les 9 et 10 février.Vous pouvez consulter notre politique de confidentialité sur https://art19.com/privacy ainsi que la notice de confidentialité de la Californie sur https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"Il vint habiter à Capharnaüm pour que soit accomplie la parole d'Isaïe" Méditation de l'évangile (Mt 4, 12-17) par le père Nicolas de Boccard Chant final: "convertissez-vous" par le Choeur Cantemus Domino

Il était plus que temps que j'enregistre enfin un épisode qui traite de la prématurité, parce que le fait même de devoir passer par une conception alternative de nos enfants, de devoir nous imposer des protocoles invasifs et lourds pour nos quotidiens et nos esprits, ne nous épargne pas de la réalité des chiffres qui accompagnent les grossesses. Parfois le plus dur n'est pas derrière nous mais il est devant nous!Chaque année c'est 50 à 60000 enfants qui naissent à différents stades de prématurité, allant de 25 semaine d'aménorrhée pour les plus extrêmes à 36 SA, fin officielle de la prématurité. 60 000 enfants sur environ 900 000 naissances. Soit un peu plus de 5% des accouchements. Et il faut être clair, ce n'est pas le début de vie que l'on souhaite à nos enfants! Alors passé le choc de l'annonce, souvent, nous avons besoin de personnes ressources, et qui de mieux que des parents d'anciens prémas? Joy et Manon l'ont bien compris. Ça a été leur premier reflex, quand, après un parcours compliqué pour concevoir leur petite Alba, la pré-éclampsie et le help syndrom ont précipité sa naissance. C'est le procédé que cette petite coquine a trouvé pour s'inviter discretement au mariage de ses mamans! Joy a alors pris contact, en attendant leur entrée au bloc, avec Stephanie du compte Demande à tes mères et Orianne du compte Daronnes en devenir pour savoir à quoi s'attendre, comprendre comment leur vie allait être impactée. Parce que le personnel médical sait bien vous expliquer les conséquences directes des symptômes qui poussent à provoquer la naissance, mais leur discours reste très court termiste. Pour l'avoir vécu, la prématurité c'est au jour le jour et vous ne savez pas 1h avant que vous sortez une heure après, vous ne savez pas une heure avant que maintenant votre bébé sait se débrouiller tout seul!Mais vous, vous savez maintenant que vous avez plusieurs familles dans notre communauté qui se sont retrouvées confrontées à cette arrivée précipitée dans la vie terrestre, et que comme une mini communauté dans une communauté, vous pourrez vous en rapprocher au besoin. Je vous laisse découvrir l'histoire de Joy, Manon et Alba et je vous souhaite une bonne écoute. Soutenez ce podcast http://supporter.acast.com/lesenfantsvontbien. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Extrait de l'épisode "La disparition du comte de Shaftesbury – Un lord égaré sur la Croisette" qui sera diffusé samedi 21 janvier.Le 10 novembre 2004, la présence de Sir Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 66 ans, dixième comte de Shaftesbury, se fait attendre au sein de sa demeure, située à Brighton. Les avions atterrissent les uns après les autres à l'aéroport de Londres Heathrow et aucun ne transporte à son bord le Lord, supposé être parti de la Côte d'Azur où il possède un pied-à-terre. Soit. Son absence n'alerte pas immédiatement ses proches, habitués aux changements de programmes et autres escales impromptues. Une semaine entière s'écoule, sans qu'il ne daigne donner de ses nouvelles ou répondre à son téléphone. Au 16 novembre, la famille Ashley-Cooper alerte le consulat du Royaume-Uni à Marseille, qui transmet à la presse un appel à témoin, au grand bonheur des tabloïds anglais toujours friands de petits potins aristocratiques. Personne n'est dupe, tout le monde est au courant des mœurs légères de l'actuel comte de Shaftesbury. Sans doute a-t-il migré quelque part, dans un pays chaud et au bras d'une femme. Le procureur de la république de Grasse ouvre de son côté une information judiciaire, relatant pour l'heure une simple disparition. Chargée de l'affaire, la police judiciaire de Nice vérifie toutes les pistes, cherche sur les listes d'admission des centres hospitaliers, celles des passagers embarqués par les compagnies aériennes, ferroviaires, fluviales… En vain. Sir Ashley-Cooper s'est volatilisé...L'épisode complet sera diffusé samedi 21 janvier, ceci est un extrait.Soutenez ce podcast http://supporter.acast.com/crimes-histoires-vraies. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Les histoires de messages placés dans des bouteilles qu'on jette à la mer font partie de l'imaginaire collectif. On associe volontiers cet ultime moyen de secours à la vie de ces naufragés qui, tel Robinson Crusoé, s'efforcent de survivre sur une île déserte. Si beaucoup de ces bouteilles se perdent à jamais, certaines finissent par être récupérées. Mais, parfois, le message qu'elles contiennent n'est lu que très longtemps après avoir été écrit. C'est le cas de celui retrouvé, en avril 2015, sur une plage de l'île allemande d'Amrun, en mer du Nord. Il a été établi que la bouteille avait été jetée à la mer le 30 novembre 1906. Soit plus de 108 ans avant d'être retrouvée par hasard par un couple de vacanciers. Il s'agit là du plus vieux message retrouvé dans une bouteille lancée à la mer. Le précédent record était de 99 ans. Intrigués par leur découverte, les promeneurs ont d'abord essayé de sortir le message contenu dans la bouteille. Mais, malgré tous leurs efforts, ils n'y sont pas parvenus. Ils ont alors suivi le conseil qui était écrit, d'un mot visible, à l'intérieur de la bouteille :"casser". Les estivants brisent donc la bouteille et récupèrent le papier qu'elle contenait. Sans doute pour avoir plus de chances d'être lu, il était écrit en plusieurs langues : anglais, allemand et néerlandais. La personne lisant le message était priée de le faire parvenir à l'association de biologie marine de Plymouth, au Royaume-Uni. Elle pourrait toucher, en échange, une récompense d'un shilling, soit 0,07 euro ! L'auteur du message a été identifié. Il s'agissait de George Parker Bidder, un biologiste anglais. La bouteille avait été lancée à la mer pour confirmer sa théorie sur les courants marins. Et il n'en avait pas jeté qu'une seule. Plus de 1.000 bouteilles avaient été livrées aux flots par le biologiste. Ce nombre se justifiait par l'hypothèse qu'il voulait vérifier : d'après lui, en effet, les bouteilles qui coulaient revenaient sur les rivages britanniques et celles qui flottaient voguaient vers le continent. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

La question de la domestication du chien suscite de nombreux débats chez les spécialistes. Le premier concerne l'ancêtre de cet animal. Aujourd'hui, les paléozoologues pensent que le chien descend de certaines espèces de loups, et non du coyote. Il semble également avéré que l'ancêtre du chien domestique vivait sur le continent européen. Mais à quelle date ? Cette question, plus délicate, n'est pas encore tranchée. Même si les spécialistes s'accordent à dire que le chien fut domestiqué plus tôt qu'on ne le pensait. Ainsi l'humérus d'un animal, trouvé dans une grotte espagnole, que diverses analyses ont permis d'attribuer à un chien, remonterait à environ 17.000 ans avant notre ère. Soit au début de l'époque magdalénienne, comprise entre 18.000 et 10.000 ans avant J.-C. Certaines trouvailles récentes permettent cependant de repousser encore plus loin dans le passé l'époque de la domestication du chien. En effet, on a retrouvé, en République tchèque, les restes d'un chien datant d'environ 26.000 ans. Une autre découverte a encore permis de reculer l'horloge du temps. Elle a été faite en Sibérie. On y a notamment trouvé une dent de ce "chien de l'Altaï", comme on l'a surnommé. Son analyse a permis de dater cette découverte d'environ 33.000 ans. Par ailleurs, on y a trouvé, comme dans d'autres ossements, de l'ADN que des technologies plus modernes ont permis d'exploiter. L'étude de ce patrimoine génétique est essentielle, car elle permet, comme dans le cas du "chien de l'Altaï", de savoir que l'on a bien affaire, non à un loup, mais à un chien. Ou du moins à un animal qui ressemble plus à un chien moderne qu'à un loup. Les ossements découverts dans une grotte belge seraient encore plus vieux. En effet, ils pourraient avoir 36.000 ans. Mais, malgré les avancées scientifiques dus à l'analyse de l'ADN, tous les scientifiques ne s'accordent pas sur l'identité de l'animal dont les restes ont été trouvés dans cette grotte. Pour les spécialistes, il est d'ailleurs possible que la domestication du chien n'ait pas réussi du premier coup et soit le résultat de plusieurs tentatives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

D'après les chiffres de l'Organisation mondiale de la santé, le plus gros consommateur mondial d'alcool est la Moldavie. On consommerait en effet, dans ce petit pays européen, coincé entre l'Ukraine et la Roumanie, un peu plus de 18 litres d'alcool par personne et par an. Soit trois fois plus que la moyenne mondiale, qui s'établit à un peu plus de 6 litres par personne et par an. Il est vrai que le rapport des Moldaves au vin remonte à la plus haute Antiquité. Les premières vignes auraient été plantées près de 3.000 ans avant notre ère. Les Grecs et les Romains appréciaient beaucoup le vin moldave. Après des siècles de domination ottomane, où l'alcool est prohibé, la Moldavie, qui fait partie de l'Empire des tsars depuis 1812, fournit en vin la Russie, puis l'URSS. Aujourd'hui, le vin moldave, qui fournit 20% du PIB et représente environ un tiers des exportations, est surtout vendu à l'étranger. Une telle consommation d'alcool ne peut qu'avoir de graves conséquences sur la santé des Moldaves. D'autant que, comme la quasi-totalité du vin est exportée, ils boivent surtout une eau-de-vie locale, fabriquée par les très nombreux bouilleurs de cru. Il s'agit d'un alcool très fort et d'une qualité parfois douteuse. Ainsi, en Moldavie une personne sur 1.000 meurt d'une cirrhose du foie, soit 6 fois plus qu'en France. Et les accidents de la route liés à une consommation excessive d'alcool sont aussi très nombreux. De ce fait, on estime que, dans le pays, un homme sur 5 mourrait à cause de l'alcool. En effet, les hommes boivent plus que les femmes; ce qui explique que leur espérance de vie moyenne est de 66 ans, contre 75 ans pour leurs compagnes. Dans les années 1980, les autorités soviétiques avaient tenté de prohiber l'alcool. Les seuls résultats avaient été une baisse des revenus de l'État et une plus grande circulation de l'alcool artisanal. Depuis une dizaine d'années, les autorités moldaves essaient de faire baisser cette consommation d'alcool, par l'instauration de taxes mais aussi par une campagne d'information et de prévention. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Le homard est un met très apprécié malgré qu'il soit en totale contradiction avec le standing des repas auxquels il est à la carte. On doit le manger avec les doigts, lui sucer la tête et les pattes et ça éclabousse. On doit donc porter un tablier ridicule sur sa tenue de ville pour le déguster. Et bien sûr, on le cuit vivant. Soit on le coupe en deux vivant avec de le poêler, soit on l'enfourne à la vapeur vivant, toujours, soit on le plonge dans l'eau bouillante en ayant pris soin de cuire d'abord ses pinces quelques minutes avant de plonger l'animal. Certains argumenteront que la bête est insensible et que ces pratiques lui sont indolores mais n'ayant personnellement jamais été un homard, je ne pourrai pas facilement juger. D'autres crieront à l'hypocrisie, après tout, un homard ou un bœuf, il n'y en a pas un qu'on doit moins tuer pour le manger. Quand vous plongez un homard dans l'eau bouillante, il émet en effet un petit bruit aigu que beaucoup méprennent avec un cri. En réalité, le décapode est dépourvu de cordes vocales et de poumons, il ne peut physiquement pas crier, il n'en est pas équipé.  La vérité est qu'il cache quelques poches de gaz sous sa carapace. Elles gonflent sous l'effet de la chaleur et finissent par fissurer la carapace donnant naissance à ce petit bruit qui rappelle un cri. Il semblerait que la contraction des muscles de l'animal puisse aussi provoquer un bruit.  Le homard cuit ressort rouge comme un vacancier imprudent. Comment troque t'il sa belle robe bleue pour terminer tout de rouge vêtu ? Et bien c'est dû, encore une fois à une réaction chimique et on la connait si bien qu' on l'appelle la cardinalisation. Le mot cardinalisation fait allusion à la robe rouge des cardinaux. Il faut savoir que la carapace du homard contient un pigment rouge, l'astaxanthine. Seulement ce pigment est lié et caché par une protéine, la crustacyanine qui rend la carapace bleue. A la cuisson, la crustacyanine se dégrade, “entre guillemet” et laisse apparaître alors le pigment rouge.  D'ailleurs, je parle des homards mais les crevettes, les crabes ou les langoustes en continent aussi et changent également de couleur à la cuisson pour les même raisons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chaque jour, écoutez le Best-of de l'Afterfoot, sur RMC la radio du Sport ! L'After foot, c'est LE show d'après-match et surtout la référence des fans de football depuis 15 ans ! Les rencontres se prolongent tous les soirs avec Gilbert Brisbois et Nicolas Jamain avec les réactions des joueurs et entraîneurs, les conférences de presse d'après-match et les débats animés entre supporters, experts de l'After et auditeurs. RMC est une radio généraliste, essentiellement axée sur l'actualité et sur l'interactivité avec les auditeurs, dans un format 100% parlé, inédit en France. La grille des programmes de RMC s'articule autour de rendez-vous phares comme Apolline Matin (6h-9h), les Grandes Gueules (9h-12h), Estelle Midi (12h-15h), Super Moscato Show (15h-18h), Rothen s'enflamme (18h-20h), l'After Foot (20h-minuit).

Comment arrêter de procrastiner ? Comment apprendre à aimer quelque chose que tu n'aimes pas ? Pas plus tard qu'il y a quelques semaines, je repoussais le traitement de certains contrats, parce que la compta ne me passionne pas, et c'était un excellent indicateur qui me permet de me dire “sois intelligent sur du long terme pour t'organiser à ce que quelqu'un d'autre qui aime le faire, le fasse”. Et c'est valable pour tout. Il n'y a pas que ça, il s'agit aussi d'apprendre à lâcher l'exigence que tu as envers toi-même et d'identifier le déclencheur lié à l'action de la tâche. Soit parce qu'il y a un fantasme derrière, soit parce que tu es réellement exigeant avec toi jusqu'à ce que ce ne soit pas productif. Je vais t'aider à voir la beauté derrière les tâches que tu n'as pas envie de faire et je vais t'expliquer pourquoi tu ne passes pas à l'action à la vitesse que tu le voudrais. Je reviens sur l'histoire de Michael Jordan, sur des notions de coaching et je te partage des anecdotes perso. J'ai plusieurs messages à te faire passer à travers cet épisode de mon Podcast dont un qui est souvent oublié, c'est que, ce que tu reportes le plus, ce sont souvent les débuts de quelque chose. À toi de clarifier ce qui est vraiment important pour toi et de relier ce que tu aimes le moins faire à ton rêve pour avancer. Clique ici si tu veux en savoir plus sur le prochain événement pour révéler ton potentiel : https://laroche.com/dlfr-ptp-epr

La région Pays-de-la-Loire est moins boisé que les autres régions, avec 400.000 hectares boisés. Soit seulement 12 % de surface forestière. C'est ce qui ressort du récent inventaire forestier réalisé par l'Institut national de l'information géographique (IGN). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

L'émission qui dit tout haut ce que le monde du foot pense tout bas ! Cette année, l' « After Foot » fête ses 16 ans et propose un choc des générations ! Composée de ceux qui ont grandi avec l'After, la « Génération After » prendra les commandes de l'émission entre 20h et 22h. Avec Nicolas Jamain aux manettes, entouré de Kévin Diaz, Mathieu Bodmer, Walid Acherchour, Simon Dutin, Romain Canuti et Sofiane Zouaoui, cette nouvelle génération débattra avec passion, mais toujours en conservant les convictions et les codes de l'After. De 22h à minuit, place à la version originelle et historique de l'After autour de Gilbert Brisbois, Daniel Riolo, Stéphane Guy, et Florent Gautreau. Les soirs de Ligue des Champions, Jérôme Rothen rejoindra la bande pour les matchs du PSG et Mamadou Niang pour les matchs de l'OM. Nicolas Vilas sera aux commandes pour faire vivre les matchs dans l'After Live. Cette année, Thibaut Giangrande pilotera l' « After Foot » le vendredi et samedi.

Les footballeurs parlent aux footballeurs ! « Rothen s'enflamme », le rendez-vous des passionnés du ballon rond revient pour une deuxième saison ! Jérôme Rothen animera des débats enflammés avec sa Dream Team d'anciens joueurs composée d'Emmanuel Petit, Lionel Charbonnier, Éric Di Meco, Mathieu Bodmer, Mathieu Valbuena et Jean-Michel Larqué. Julien Cazarre sortira cette saison encore, des infos exclusives toujours avec son humour et sa plume acérée. En cette année de Coupe du Monde de football, Jérôme Rothen et Jean-Louis Tourre s'entourent d'un casting 5 étoiles avec le grand retour de Juninho (déjà présent lors de la Coupe du Monde au Brésil en 2014), et les arrivées de Patrice Evra, Steven Nzonzi, Mamadou Niang et Jérémy Ménez.

So, who reading this knows the definition of BIPOC? Listen to this episode and Peter Bloch Garcia will define the word for you right at the start. Peter's life after being in school stayed in education where primarily taught at the secondary school level.   Later, he decided to move out of being a direct educator and into working for and serving with a number of not-for-profit agencies in the Washington State area.   Our conversation ranges far and wide and, as far as I am concerned, is one of the most pertinent discussions I have had in quite a while. We talk about everything from racial inequity to climate change and how all interrelate together.   I urge you to listen and even leave the interview with a list of books Peter suggests for outside reading. I hope you will give this episode a 5 rating and that you also will review it. Enjoy and be inspired. That's the best thing I can suggest.     About the Guest: Peter Bloch Garcia is the son of a Mexican immigrant, and grew up in Yakima, Washington. He began his career as an educator, later becoming a foundation program officer focused on improving education quality and access for students from low-income and BIPOC youth, and empowering them to advocate for systemic change.   When he learned that foundations do not equitably support BIPOC communities, he organized others to form the Latino Community Fund of Washington State, where he served as Board President, Treasurer and Executive Director to steward growth and development of a vitally needed organization. He was instrumental in forming and leading Progreso: Latino Progress, a c4 organization to build political power in the Latine community for more representation and voice at state level issues.   While at LCF he increased resources to enhance community leadership, build capacity of non-profit organizations, and advocate systems change to improve the well-being of Latine residents across the state. As head of Progreso, he coordinated with LCF to increase Latine voter registration and civic participation and engaged Latine community voice to lobby for racially equitable policies at the state and local levels.  His leadership with LCF and Progreso was honored when he received the American Society of Public Administration northwest chapter's Billy Frank, Jr. Award for Race and Social Justice in 2017.   To round out his experience and impact in the community, Peter moved to the public sector to focus on economic equity and justice by supporting neighborhood business districts in BIPOC communities to improve safety, placemaking, and community building events.   Peter is passionate about advancing racial equity and addressing climate change through movement building of BIPOC communities for systemic change. He is also dedicated to moving the nonprofit sector to improve their internal organizational cultures to match the values of their mission and become intentionally anti-racist in practice. He is a co-host with Tania Hino of Adelante Leadership podcast to encourage and inspire more Latine community members to step into leadership.   He serves on the Seattle Foundation Community Programs board committee, the board of Evergreen Social Impact, and as treasurer of Sustainable Seattle.   At Valtas Group, Peter has served in the following Interim ED roles. ●      Seattle International Foundation (SIF) ●      Mockingbird Society Peter's educational background includes -       BS in English and Secondary Education, Western Washington University -       MPA, University of Washington, Evans School of Public Administration, Concentration: Public & nonprofit management, social enterprise, quantitative analysis, financial management, community & economic development, and urban environmental sustainability. -       Certificate in Leading DEI Initiatives, Northwestern University   Social Media Links:   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-bloch-garcia-ba878810/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/peter.b.garcia Twitter @pblochgarcia   Adelante Leadership https://www.adelanteleadership.com/     Valtas https://www.valtasgroup.com/peter-bloch-garcia.html Seattle International Foundation https://seaif.org/ The Mockingbird Society https://www.mockingbirdsociety.org/ Latino Community Fund https://www.latinocommunityfund.org/     Poetry 2019 San Jose Poetry Center Finalist https://www.deanza.edu/english/creative-writing/red-wheelbarrow.html Real Change https://www.realchangenews.org/news/2000/12/28/poetry-dec-28-2000 Poets West https://www.poetswest.com/books.htm Blue Mountain Review https://issuu.com/collectivemedia/docs/bluemountainreviewseptember2021   About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes* Michael Hingson  00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson  01:20 Well, hi again, wherever you happen to be. This is Michael Hingson. And you are listening to unstoppable mindset. And today we get to meet Peter Garcia. Or would you rather go by Peter Bloch Garcia?   Peter Bloch Garcia  01:34 It's Peter Bloch Garcia.   Michael Hingson  01:35 Peter Bloch Garcia. All right. And Peter grew up in Yakima, Washington, and as spent most of his life in I guess the the Northwest, has been an educator and a foundation person who's been responsible for a number of things, and he'll talk to us about that, and definitely an advocate. And among other things, Peter has spent a lot of time dealing with education and quality of access for low income and bipoc people. And I asked Peter, and I'm gonna ask you again, what is bipoc? Because I think probably a lot of us haven't heard of it at least, I hope I'm not the only one.   Peter Bloch Garcia  02:16 Yeah, happy to in No, I don't believe you are the only one. Because it's a relatively new term that's emerged in the last few years. It's actually an acronym that stands for black indigenous people of color. And it's being used more as an inclusive way. But also to amplify the significance of an importance of addressing racism by calling out and emphasizing the importance of black and indigenous aspects of that of people of   Michael Hingson  02:54 color. Got it? We have acronyms for everything nowadays, don't we?   Peter Bloch Garcia  02:58 Yes, it is. Nothing. More is a common noun, though. Yeah.   Michael Hingson  03:04 And that's fair. But we we do like to describe everything. Well, tell me a little bit about you growing up and kind of how you got to where you are?   Peter Bloch Garcia  03:14 Well, so basically, my story is, so my mom is an immigrant from Mexico. And I was born here in the United States after she came to the US. And she came without speaking English, but learned it fairly quickly. And how that sort of has shaped me, you know, we grew up with as we got older, we, me and my siblings had very typical or stereotypical even challenges and situations that are typical of folks of color in this country and in society. From a background like that, it is a time Yakima was it was very much of a migrant farming community. And growing up there, I was really not very happy growing up there for a variety of reasons, both the typical traumas and issues within our family, as well as the extended community that was not very inclusive, and but I didn't have the language. I didn't know I didn't really understand why or what was happening. But what I think was really important to me that shaped me who I am today was that I had some adults in my life who were very influential one was, I was in a youth employment and training program for low income kids. That was federally funded back in the day, and my case manager. Her name's You and Karaca, she, she saw more in me than I saw in myself. But also, as an African American woman, she was starting to talk to me, it started, that's where I think I started getting some of the language to understand issues around race. But it wasn't until I went to college where I also got active on campus. Back then, in in mid 80s, you know, if race in this country was seen as something that we had already dealt with in the past, oh, that was something in the 60s. In fact, all kids of color, pretty much were seen on campus as taking somebody else's seat, taking a white student seat, or that we got into the school, because we weren't qualified, but it was a affirmative action thing that we we didn't really belong, you know, all of that stuff. And so I spent something like, you know, in my spare time on is an undergraduate as a student activist and, and try to work on improving things, recruiting more students of color, supporting the students of color, improving our, our graduation rates, and things such as that. And then I went into teaching after that, partly because I felt so privileged from my kind of background to have gotten a college education. Some of my siblings didn't graduate high school. And yet, here, I was going through college, and I wanted to give back. So I first started going into education, because I wanted to, to, you know, share the kind of education that I felt privileged by with other kids like me. So I started going into teaching, and I taught for a number of years, I taught in different countries, Mexico and Italy. I taught for a short time in New York City. But I left teaching eventually, and I ended up working in nonprofits. And that's where you mentioned the foundation work, which was purely coincidental, because I didn't know there was a sector on giving money away, you know, philanthropy, right. But I learned a foundation.   Michael Hingson  07:14 What kind of places did you teach high school, college or why taught   Peter Bloch Garcia  07:18 mostly secondary levels? So high school and more of the years was spent in middle school? Sixth, seventh, and eighth grades, some ninth 10th? In a few junior level classes. You say? Go ahead. I was just gonna say I was an English teacher, mostly. But I taught a little bit of social studies as well.   Peter Bloch Garcia  07:41 Which kind of relates Oh,   Michael Hingson  07:45 well, you said something really interesting. Which I thought about a lot. I know it's true. But you said that people probably in the 80s sort of thought, well, race is all taken care of it was all dealt with in the 60s and 70s. But the view generally was that people of different races were taking seats from white people. Yeah. And I think actually, there are still a lot of people who think that way today, but nevertheless, that doesn't sound like it was really dealing with race, of course, does it?   Peter Bloch Garcia  08:26 Right. Yeah. I mean, it is still definitely a part of the frame. You know, especially with our immigration policy, you know, for the last 30 some years, it's been Oh, we got to control immigrants, immigration, because they're taking our jobs kind of thing.   Peter Bloch Garcia  08:43 But I think to your question,   Peter Bloch Garcia  08:49 it it was it still was rooted in racism from my, my perspective. But it was sort of a, it was sort of an excuse, like, you know, no, no, we don't have to deal with racism, because it was done before. And, and no sort of self awareness of the privilege. In fact, there was this one class I was taking. In college, it was an ethnic studies, political science kind of class. And the professor throughout this, this term of reverse discrimination in a lecture once and in my study group with friends. They mentioned something about reverse discrimination. And I said, Oh, but that's not what he meant. But at that time, in that period of time, there was this belief that reverse discrimination was rampant all over the country. And that's where, you know, it's reverse discrimination because folks of color students of color are taking the seats of white students then they're not they're not qualified to be here kind of thing. So It was about race and racial bias. But also the system at the time itself was not doing a good job of encouraging more kids of color to go to college.   Michael Hingson  10:11 What do you think about this whole concept of they're taking our jobs? And today we're talking about immigration, and well, we're letting them in our country, and they're taking our jobs.   Peter Bloch Garcia  10:24 Well, I mean, there's been plenty of research that's been done on that to show a how that's not true. And the type of workers and partly like, there's more experts in that in that research field that have disproven that over time. And again, and there's even other research that talks about how countries with thriving economies, it's because they are thriving economies, because they have a growing immigrant population all the time. They have they continue that, like you're adding to the workforce, and that sort of thing. So there's plenty of other evidence to counter it. But, you know,   Michael Hingson  11:13 nevertheless, it gets promoted.   Peter Bloch Garcia  11:15 It is an important political wedge, it's promoted as a political wedge,   Michael Hingson  11:18 right? And I'm still looking for the jobs that they are taking, because most of the time when I hear about that I'm I'm sort of looking at people that I know. And I know a number of people who have come from other countries. And mostly, I haven't seen people who live here. And I guess, if we say, white people, or whatever, or are people who come from here, necessarily even wanting to work in those jobs, yeah, which is a little. Now my, my mystery about that is, of course, I've spent a lot of time in New York. And for the longest time, cab drivers were white guys and white women, and so on. And that's evolved. And I've never figured out exactly why that's the case, because it's just in the US. It's just the economics. But you know, but in general, I just don't see that as really being anyone's taking anyone's job.   Peter Bloch Garcia  12:20 Well, and I've heard the expression not as frequently as I did back then. But I still hear it from time to time. Often it's with In fact, just maybe three or four years ago, I was at this social gathering. And there were some high school students who were just graduating high school and applying to college. And one of the young men said, Well, I didn't get accepted, because they, they probably prioritize some students of color over me. And I was like, Really, though, like, it's an easy go to steal that, that folks of color have been getting privileges and special treatment that it's become on, the system's become unfair. However, when I used to, when I used to challenge people, I did not challenge that young man. He wasn't I just overheard his conversation I was like, right. But I would often say to people, well, if there was so many more advantages for folks of color to go to college, and or over employment opportunities, why are they so why are the numbers so low in college? Why are the numbers so low in terms of percentages of employment, for folks of color, in fact, it's, you know, for African Americans, no matter what the what the the unemployment rate is, nationally, historically, African Americans have always had twice the level of unemployment, whether in good times or bad times, economically, their unemployment is twice the rate for white populations. So there's, there's lots of other evidence of it not being you know, that there's still systemic challenges with racial equity, but yet, the myths and the beliefs of people still hold on and come up.   Michael Hingson  14:19 Of course, we're dealing with, in this case, race and so on. Whereas if we really want to get to statistics, we could deal with persons with disabilities whose unemployment rate is something close to 20 times what it is for so called Able bodied people, and it is just as much a prejudicial issue, whereas the reality is, it isn't that we can't do the work. So we're not given the opportunity to do the work.   Peter Bloch Garcia  14:48 Right. And, and, you know, do you do you know, if within the disabilities population or the disabled populations, the intersectionality of race within that is that Like if if a disabled person is is disabled white person has a 20%? Or what how did you how did you say   Michael Hingson  15:09 20 times as much? The unemployment rate typically is between 65 and 70%. Yeah. Is it as it defines it? Is it different based on race? Oh, there are definite differences.   Peter Bloch Garcia  15:21 Probably I suspect there is. But given that I'm curious, just curious.   Michael Hingson  15:27 But the overall, I think the overall number from census and yeah, so Security Administration and others is, is that number is it is a different? racially? I don't have the statistics, but I think I have heard that it is. So you're not going to find that. A look. I know blind people who are very prejudiced against people who are black. Yeah. And it's an extremely unfortunate. We know that's a learned behavior. Right. Personally speaking. Not having ever seen color. It doesn't matter to me a single solitary bit. But it is it is an issue that we we encounter. Yeah. And we've got to get over that somehow. And the whole immigration thing is such a problem, because we have allowed it to become political, which makes it even worse. To to deal with.   Peter Bloch Garcia  16:24 Yeah, yeah. For sure.   Michael Hingson  16:26 How do we how do we deal with the immigration thing? Do you have any thoughts?   Peter Bloch Garcia  16:31 Well, to me, the anti immigrant views are one form of racism. In fact, there's a there's a guy I know. And I'm forgetting I'm totally blanking on his name right now. Oh, no. Got it. Eric Ward, Eric Ward, who? I think he's currently the Executive Director of that lost the name I have may come up with it later. Eric Ward, had done research that showed how there was a symbiotic social relationship between the rise in anti immigrant speech and media coverage, leading to violence against African American people and other races. And I think, Raisa Yeah, well, right. Right, right. And we probably saw that play out. We will we all saw it play out more. So during the the racist and the racially biased and statements that the former person who's currently under indictments   Michael Hingson  17:51 who shall not be named.   Peter Bloch Garcia  17:54 Right, when he would say these things, there was an increase in hate crimes, you know, people being accosted at gas stations and, and things So. So. So I think of, you know, anti immigrant sentiment, being an extension of racist views, mindsets and values. And so in order for us to address anti immigrant mentalities and thinking, we have to address the root causes of racism. And I think within that, we have to look at how do we help individual people learn? How do we shape or restructure or reshape our organizational systems have, you know, our nonprofit organizations, that's where I've been spending a lot, so many of my years working in and thinking about how to use those spaces of organizational structure to undo racism. And then there's the systemic level, that racial inequity is perpetuated from the policies and the systems that have excluded or set barriers for equal access. So so in order to, to address it, it's sort of a three pronged strategy, I believe. Yeah, not and I would say also, at the, at the beginning place, for the individual level, is learning about racial bias, because there's a lot more research and writing just about I'd say, in the last four years, there's more books that are coming out than ever before when I was young. That's partly why I didn't have any language to understand my world around me that right, but yet, there's been so much more great work that's been done in this field, and more and more books coming out in the last four years than ever I've seen in my life.   Michael Hingson  19:53 What's unfortunate is that in some quarters, people want to ban books. I mean, there there's a lot of there's a lot The value in what To Kill a Mockingbird teaches. Yeah, and, and similar books and yet people want to get rid of those. And that is just crazy.   Peter Bloch Garcia  20:10 It is the To Kill a Mockingbird one in particular. I'm a huge fan of having been an English teacher actually not just because of that, but when I I used to have to teach it To Kill a Mockingbird is a frequently taught book in like eighth or ninth grade, right. And every year I would teach it, and I swore I don't know, I probably read the book like 10 times. And every time I would read it, I would see a new insight into Oh, my God, look what she was doing. Look what Harper Lee was, was raising with that story. So I'm a huge fan of it. And I think though to to that point about book banning, I think that's partly the how the power structure of the system, as we're going through these social changes, with the emergence of more consciousness, more intentionality, to eliminate racism, you know, that thank God for the Black Lives Matter movement. Thank God for the me to movement. And all of these, these these social reckonings that have been happening, I'd say, really, more so than in the last six years. I think that there's more more of the, the white privilege mentality that is desperately wanting to hold on because they see it as a loss, they see it if if we give those people of color, the same thing, I'm going to lose something, right. So they are striking out at anything that they think is going to challenge the system, the status quo, or the system or their privilege. And so that's where I think some of the, in fact, I swear, I just saw a post on social media about librarians, getting harassed and called names from folks who are wanting them to banned books in our library. So kids are not exposed to these sorts of ideas.   Michael Hingson  22:11 I am a great fan of and collect old radio shows as a hobby. And I think that it is part of our history. And some of it, from time to time reflects racism. One of my favorite shows, and I'll explain why is Amos and Andy, which is about two black guys. And I've had an opportunity to interact with one of the foremost experts on Amos and Andy, some time ago. And for me, my history with Amos and Andy is that Bob long before I really understood a lot about old radio. I grew up watching Amos and Andy on television. Well, you know, I didn't see the colors, but I didn't even know they were black. And I didn't even understand all of that. Okay, so anyway, I learned later that it was taken off television, because black people objected to being portrayed that way. And I can appreciate that intellectually looking back on it. But I asked this expert from the the, the whole issue of Amos and Andy. So when did they stop? Really referring to Amos and Andy is black. And what she said was basically, it started out that way, when Amos and Andy came to New York, they asked where all the dark people lived, and so on. But by 1937, it wasn't even talked about. They were just there they were characters, and yes, they had the voices they did. But there wasn't really a lot of reference to black or white or anything else. And you could draw your own inferences. And I know a lot of people did. But it across the board as a radio program was extremely entertaining, and came up with a lot of very good plots that people reacted to, in fact, on Saturdays during the matinees people would the this, the theater, people would cut off the film so that everybody could listen to Amos and Andy. Hmm. And and I appreciate the problems with the show from that the standpoint of race, but at the same time, it was something that across the board was very entertaining to people, but now we see discussions of well, we can't have that our libraries. We should get rid of that. That doesn't help either.   Peter Bloch Garcia  24:35 Right. Yeah. Well, and you're reminding me of so one of the ways that racial bias has been perpetuated has been through media. Right? In fact, I mean, there's much more research of late on this looking back at movies and television shows and and I was I remember thinking about this a few years ago when my my kids were young. And I thought, Oh, I'm going to I'm going to look up those movies that I enjoyed as a kid. And I'll watch them with my kids. And so I watched them. And I was stunned at how many racial stereotypes they would they would portray in these movies. And I'm like, Oh, heck, I can't share that. And that's, but we just grew up with it. Right? It was that's part of where our racial biases come from the images, the stereotypes that were used throughout media, and similar within the nonprofit sector, actually, I kind of think the nonprofit sector has perpetuated racial stereotypes as, as all folks of color are poor. Because most of the time, I mean, this is the whole premise of of fundraising, for nonprofits, as they put pictures of the very small percentage that they're actually serving of the kids of color, or colleges. And universities do this all the time. It's the they find the few kids of color in their organization, and they put their pictures up there, and they go, they tell the sad story, oh, this poor child, he had all these disabilities or challenges and, you know, setbacks and, and we turn their life around and give to us so that we can, you know, keep doing that. But it's perpetuating a deficit based story, right, and a stereotype in that set entire industry. And I'm seeing there's actually, and I'm, I'm not remembering his name, but there's a guy, I think he does a TED talk. But he's been developing this work around asset framing. And he he talks about it as the media is that as the news, he goes into journalism, I think his angles, about that, of how here's an example of the way the traditional story talks about communities of color, from a very deficit based, there's always problems Oh, the crime or the blah, blah, blah. And then he illustrates how to how to change that it doesn't mean that there aren't still needs within and disproportionality within communities of color. But there's a way to frame that that is what he calls sort of his asset framing. So that's another area that's emerging more and more so these days that I think is helpful.   Michael Hingson  27:29 But I think the issue also has to be in part, that we can't deny our history, what we should do is learn from it. And so taking programs like Amos and Andy away, and just denying that they existed, doesn't help either. Well, and   Peter Bloch Garcia  27:45 but it has to be brought forward as a as a learning opportunity. Right. And, and, in fact, Michael, I think, you know, I'm still, I still continue to be surprised at what how little or we received in our high school, or college history courses about the inclusion of people of color in history,   Michael Hingson  28:11 or, or any minority group. Right,   Peter Bloch Garcia  28:14 right. And, and, and, like, in fact, there's a woman, Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz, she's written a number of books, one of them in particular is the Indigenous People's History of the United States. And I only just read this maybe a year or two ago. And it was mind blowing, I had no idea. And I'm somewhat fairly informed by other things I've read about Native American, you know, information in books and literature, but it's still eye opening. There's such a rich history of within our diverse populations that has been excluded.   Michael Hingson  28:53 Yeah. And we shouldn't do that. But we do. We we, in our high school environment, don't discuss it didn't discuss it. Right. I hope it's better than it was. I have not taken high school history lately. But I'm aware that there is so much that we didn't discuss and refuse to really look at the rich history that all of us, whether it's race, persons with disabilities, and recognizing all of the things that that people have contributed. One of the poll, most famous cardiac surgeons in the early 1900s was Jacob Lawton, who was blind. You know, and there's so many others, and there are so many different people who have contributed to our country, and they're not all white men. And there's no reason that we should be excluding those other than some improperly placed attitude, shall we say?   Peter Bloch Garcia  29:55 Yeah, well, and Michael, I'm wondering, I got a question for you. What As a couple years ago, I felt like I was seeing more disabilities. Inclusion around the term when organizations and people were talking about D i diversity, equity and inclusion, they were adding another lever, was it I forget which letter it was useability. A, was it a thing so and so it was being more included a couple years ago, but I'm not hearing so much about it being included. These Well,   Michael Hingson  30:35 the problem with saying diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility doesn't deal with it. So that deals with part of the issue with for persons with disabilities, if you will, but the issue still comes down to social acceptance, issues still comes down to equals, and I and I realized that the term disability has an implication. But we have totally warped the concept as far as I am concerned, of diversity. When you talk to people about diversity, they'll talk to you about race, gender, sexual orientation, social class, and so on. You don't hear discussions of disability, which is why inclusion has gotten to be part of it. Yeah, but then they want to add in accessibility. But again, that is a nebulous term. So accessibility is as relevant for Latino people or black people, it is for persons with disabilities in that sense. And so we need to change our definition, if you will, of disability, and include it directly in the discussion. Or another way to put it is if you're truly going to call yourself inclusive, then you have to be inclusive, you can't be partially inclusive. It either is or it isn't. And I tend to believe in the quantum orientation of the word either you're inclusive, which means you're going to involve disabilities as well, or you're not inclusive at all, you can't have it both ways.   Peter Bloch Garcia  32:05 Right? Yeah. And so   Michael Hingson  32:09 I think there's there continues to be a significant effort. There are places where it's getting better, New York announced some about a month ago, that and it's not going to happen instantly, there's a lot to be done to make it happen. I forget his 2045 or 2050, or something, but they're going to make 95% of all the subway stations in New York City wheelchair accessible. And that's a major undertaking to do, given that a lot of those subway stations were not, and are very difficult to make accessible. So that's a major commitment. On the other hand, are they going to hire blind architects to help make that happen? Because they are blind architects? Are they going to do other things? There's, there's a lot to the process. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm not I'm not trying to leave out persons of race or whatever, or different races, as opposed to blind people. But we need to get back to really expecting and demanding equity and inclusion across the board.   Peter Bloch Garcia  33:14 Yeah, yeah. For sure, you,   Michael Hingson  33:17 you talk a lot about racial equity and inclusion and climate change. Tell me something about that, why you bring the two together?   Peter Bloch Garcia  33:28 Well, for me,   Peter Bloch Garcia  33:32 for a couple of reasons, actually. But, you know, for me, I think at this stage of my life, where I want to spend my efforts and energy is to address racism and climate change, because I think there are two root problems or root roots to so many other issues, that if we, I like to think about getting upstream or to the root of an issue, so that if we can fix that, then so many other things will will improve consequent to that. And for climate change. You know, if we don't, as humans address climate change and reverse it, the predictions, the scientific predictions are so severe, that, you know, college access to college education kind of won't matter because the college might be underwater, when the seas as the seas continue to rise, you know, like, that's just one. There's so I'm kind of being facetious about that, but but   Peter Bloch Garcia  34:39 not all three.   Peter Bloch Garcia  34:42 And so, for me, part of the the view is that it if we don't reverse climate change, there are going to be so many other catastrophes from hurricanes to forest fires can Continue devastation, that it will wreak havoc on so many of our other people's lives and our systems, that some of the other issues kind of won't matter so much not that they aren't important, I'm just saying that people are going to be so strapped we, as human beings around the world or, you know, we're facing more droughts, etc, when basic needs are not going to be met. So we need to at the same time address climate change, but how I connect these two, and why they are connected, is, is that racism at its root is about power. And I think the same sort of mindset or thinking that is, the foundational beliefs or mindsets of racism, are about power in the same way that has led us down the system's paths towards creation of climate change, like the if we which which are about a power, exploitation control. There's there's so many different factors and variables to it. But I see the two definitely in are interlinked. And even so, in addition to that, I guess I'd say, there's, there's plenty of other research that's been describing this is that people of color, historically have always had a disproportionate disproportion disproportionate environmental impact from pollution from where they live, where their housing is built upon waste sites, or air pollution quality. In the city of Seattle, there's one of the poorest neighborhoods where life expectancy is nine years lower than if you just drive 20 minutes to the wealthier neighborhood where the families in that neighborhood are. And that's because of the air pollution, the air pollution is so severe in the poor neighborhood, which is mostly folks of color, that, that it's affecting their health in just a short distance away, right. So there's always been that disproportional environment or environmental exposure. And our systems have not necessarily changed that. And that's where climate change is continuing to impact folks of color more so as a frontline impact as climate change continues to increase. For more folks of color percentages of folks of color are going to be experiencing the impact sooner and more severely.   Michael Hingson  37:41 So what kinds of things are you doing to advance dealing with these issues?   Peter Bloch Garcia  37:45 Well, so with with climate change, I have done some work here in Washington before we formed a few years ago, we formed a coalition of bipoc coalition called front and center. And we worked with other mainstream environmental organizations to propose legislation. That was we came up with a more racially equitable policy proposal, we tried to work on it legislatively at the time in Olympia here in Washington State, we we didn't get it passed that legislatively. So then we organized a statewide ballot initiative. It was close, but it still didn't pass. But but those were some of the kinds of in that coalition continues to work today. And so I'm involved in another environmental organization and that sort of thing. But most of my time has been, because like I say, I don't believe that. I believe that these two things are so intertwined, that most of my time lately has been spent on anti racism work that will also benefit and lead to systems change. For climate issues.   Michael Hingson  39:00 Do you think that we need to somehow completely tear down the process that we're using and start over? Can we can we make progress with doing things the way we are to promote racial and other kinds of difference equity, if you will, as well as dealing with climate change? Or maybe climate change can help lead us to the other?   Peter Bloch Garcia  39:25 So had you asked me this question? Maybe four years ago? I would have I would be giving you a different answer. I think four years ago, I would have said, I don't have a lot of belief or hope in the existing system, that it's going to be able to change enough in my lifetime. But what I'm seeing on a broad scale, and in talking to folks about there is been finally what I never thought I would see in my lifetime Is some social reckoning around race. And even even some of the opinion polling is starting to shift focus on on their understanding of climate change. In fact, it was maybe only just about six years ago, I attended a chamber of commerce conference, and one of the keynote speakers at this conference, you know, it was mostly for profit corporations, lobbyists and different elected leaders across different levels of our regional and local governments. And the keynote speaker was saying how he said, it doesn't matter. His talk was about how, even if you personally as your business does not believe that climate change is real, you're going to have to, to change your opinion, because more people believe it's true, whether or not you think it is or not, but that was only six years ago, right. And similarly, in the same way that we have anti rhetoric constantly in our politics, that's shaping public opinion, we have had an enormous amount of, of misinformation about climate change climate change deniers, politicians, claiming that it was, you know, it was a hoax from China or whatever, you know, it was, we've had so much of that influence. But even that has started to change. And some more of the folks who have claimed before in at the federal level are finally seeing the impacts like in Florida, that how they cannot continue denying the impact of climate change that's happening right on their shores, you know. So so there's some of that, but that that's what I've seen starting to change in the last few years, and especially around race, there does seem to be a social reckoning, a desire from people wanting to change to learn. Whereas my own racial bias, there was that book that came out, and it's getting more and more broadly read the book, white fragility. And it's, I think it's really helping people see things that like, oh, yeah, we cannot continue down this road. Look what it's led us to, we have to change course. There was a part of your question, I didn't answer that. What was what was the question again?   Michael Hingson  42:31 Why is there air? I think the question basically was, oh, burn it all down? Do we burn it all down on start over?   Peter Bloch Garcia  42:42 And that's where so so I similarly, I would have said six years ago, when I used to do more direct lobbying work or direct policy advocacy work, that there was such a lack of understood fundamental understanding about racial inequity. Like, I would talk to potential candidates who were running for elected office and do interviews with them and say, What's your view on racial equity? And what would you do if you got elected to advance it? And nine times out of 10, they didn't know what I meant by racial equity. But these days in the last several years, I'd say, I'm starting to see much more understanding the policies that are coming out of our legislature are. In fact, in fact, some of the advocacy and lobbying started to shift a little bit of when when I was going with in coalition's to talk to policymakers, and we'd say, Okay, we like this, we want to support this issue. But we want it to include some aspects that will address the racial inequity in this issue. And they'd say, Oh, okay, that sounds great. But what should it be? So so then we would come up with their recommendations to make it more racially equitable. But that was a new thing. And now, I'd say in the last four years, more and more elected folks are coming up with, you know, talking to folks in the community, asking for their solutions, so that they can make new new policies and new improved systems to break down the barriers that have been in place that have perpetuated. So these days, I'm much more optimistic that the system is finally moving in a way that is going to start undoing it, self and improving. But secondly, I guess I've come to the belief, Michael, that our systems are so massive, our organizational structures are so entrenched, that we would never be able to tear them all down, that we have to work within the structures that we are given and that's where so my work around antiracism has been focusing on. There's this whole sector of nonprofit organizations and structures. So How do we work within the structure because some of those structures actually have some value, there were some aspects of structural things that were supposed to be in place to, you know, to ensure that nonprofit organizations had some level of assurances or accountability that their missions were going to benefit the public. Right. It was a, some sort of checks and balance. But the way the how the organization's were implementing is where the the perpetuation of racism has been occurring. So I'm still working within the system of nonprofit structures to shift the way that people think about how it shows up, what does racism and power show up within our existing structures? And how can we work within that to make to, to do things better, or undo racism?   Michael Hingson  45:55 So I have a couple questions. Let me start with with this one, which is kind of more general and it just came to mind, we tend to let's talk about climate change, as an example, we tend to not want to pay attention to or deal with things that collect well, that don't affect us directly. And so climate change is a very existential thing. How do we, in our educational system, for example, start teaching people to be more curious? And to look a little bit farther than just their own psyche? And I, I can think of, of answers to that question. And it depends on where in the country you live, because some people have beliefs that are so entrenched, that there's just no discussing it. Yeah. And as you point out, there are places where there's a little bit more open to openness to it, but it still is an issue that we're going to have to deal with. And you talked about climate change, look at what's going on in California. Yes, all of the fires with the Colorado River, now being where it is, and Lake Mead is 27% of where it normally is. And we're going to have to figure out these things. And I suppose some people can say, well, you can blame it on climate change, but it's natural. Well, it's not natural, right, in the scheme of what we need to do or can do to address it. So how do we get people to be more open and look beyond themselves a little bit?   Peter Bloch Garcia  47:29 The last part of that question for me is about undoing racism. Because being an anti racist is about caring about other people. It is about its fundament anti racism is fundamentally about love. You know, when Dr. King talked about the beloved community, it's a creation of a caring community. And it's a recognition that my, my, my future is completely intertwined with your future. And that we have a mutual inextricable interconnectedness in our in a shared positive future, right. That value or that it's almost like a value that we need to teach. Right. But how you teach that is it's something I continue to experiment with in my work with nonprofits, right? Sometimes I draw from Dr. Keen kings writing, but also Bell Hooks, one of her books called all about love talks about love and an aspect of within society, within family within within organizations. But there's the other part of your question, that is exactly what some researchers are grappling with trying to figure out. Why is it that we as human beings, they sit you know, that they've they've recognized that that because climate change is, you don't see it happen? I don't know how to say this very well. I'm not saying this very well. Climate change has been happening, but it's been happening over time and so slowly, that sometimes it's been hard for people to recognize it right when it's happening, but it's accumulating so much like you say in California, that it's undeniable, right? It's speeding up, and it's speeding up. And I just heard this, my wife and I'm not going to remember the name of it, but she had me listen with her to to a news program. I can't remember if it was an NPR program. And it was this story. Was it Lake Mead was that the lake that completely dried up, there's a lake in California that did completely dry up a few years back.   Michael Hingson  49:49 Not like me, but there are some so I'm not sure which one was in the program.   Peter Bloch Garcia  49:55 There was it was one that dried up a few years back already and completely. But what, what what happened? He goes in and I had never heard of this, right? I was like, Oh my God, how did I never hear this before? Because he's he talks about he's the story he's starting with is how Salt Lake is drying up. Right? And the ramifications of if Salt Lake completely dries up what a disaster it will be, it will be a disaster to the families who make a living whose economy depends on it, not just the the birds and the species, etc. But he also goes and says he tells the story about this other lake in California that did dry up and it caused so many other disasters and the impact of it was so massive, it's the state of California had to spend like billions of dollars for the ramifications of of that one lake drank drying up. And that was small compared to what Salt Lake is.   Michael Hingson  50:57 Well in Lake Mead is fed by the Colorado River, which is why it is so low compared to where it normally is because the water just isn't there.   Peter Bloch Garcia  51:06 Yes. Well, and that's part of what he said. Like I think I thought this was fascinating in his story where 70% I think he said of Salt Lake is from the reason it's shrinking. The reason is shrinking 70% of the reason it's shrinking is because the rivers that feed Salt Lake is being diverted. Right. And that's in it's being diverted for agricultural reasons, which is important. But that's again, a systemic challenge, because we have had the technology to to implement agriculturally, to be more to ensure that the water that we are using for irrigation systems will be more efficient and not wasted. But we haven't really implemented that.   Michael Hingson  51:53 Right. Tell me about the nonprofits that you work with. And you started one I believe,   Peter Bloch Garcia  52:00 Oh, yeah, I well. I've helped start a few of them. But what the one that that I talk most about? From my end, I've learned so much from getting started a few years back is called the Latino community fund Washington State. I started that when I was working in in the foundation world where there was some research that came out that pointed out how foundations everybody assumes that Oh, foundations give money to all these poor folks of color, right? Well, in reality, foundations were only giving 1.3% of their foundation grant dollars to Latino nonprofit organizations, all communities of color combined, it was only 8.6, which is significantly disproportionate to the size of the populations for the inequities in the systems. And so a few of us started up what's called Latino community fund in Washington State to try and see what we could do to move more resources to Latino programs and organizations here in the state.   Michael Hingson  53:05 So what are you doing today, primarily?   Peter Bloch Garcia  53:08 So, I mean, I continue to support Latino community fund. But mostly as I've been working in different nonprofits, I've been serving as a Interim Executive Director. Currently, I'm working for one called the mockingbird society, actually, a reference to Harper Lee's, To Kill a Mockingbird. And its mission is to eliminate youth homelessness, and transform the foster system to one of caring and doing that with a lens of racial disproportionality. And so what I've been doing it within these kinds of organizations, and I do some consulting projects, from time to time, working with boards, working with staff, to work within the structure of the nonprofit organization to to adopt an anti racist practice, to move towards an anti racist culture of the organization that all people in the organization can be happy health healthy and thrive, as well as how they deliver either programs services in the community, or how they engage and develop the organ of the community that they're working in. In fact, I just came out with an article that I co authored. I think I just sent you the link to it. Now, if you can't access it, let me know and I might be able to find some other way to share it with you. But a few months ago, like for Well, let me back up the story a little bit because it was where were these notions had been coming from and why I focus on this so much of my work is part of my story of you know, I think when I When I was working, when I started working in foundations, I was they were miserable places to work. But I also started a graduate graduate school program. And in that program, they had a series of courses on leadership. And I think at that time, I had assumed that leadership meant the people at the top of the hierarchy, as commonly what that definition meant. In my leadership courses, I was doing all this reading and a part of the program to realize, oh, leadership is actually a set of behaviors or actions that people do wherever you are within structures, whether it's society, whether it's in an organization, whether it's in a family, or your neighborhood, or wherever. So I remember thinking, Hmm, oh, okay, well, maybe I'm a leader. Maybe that means does that mean I'm a leader, right. And so over the years, then I started looking at, like, around me in the organizations that I was at, and especially when these organizational cultures were so toxic, so painful places to work. I was trying to figure out well, why, you know, they have this wonderful mission statement, or externally, they're seen as having such a great purpose. But yet inside, it was a toxic, horrible place to be. Right. It was like the opposite of their own mission and stated values. So I've spent many years trying to figure out like, what do we do about that? Again, back to your earlier question of within this structure, how can we make it better? And that's where I use a lot of the draw, I draw from a lot of the previous work that others have done, especially around identifying characteristics of white supremacy culture, you know, I think what is there's like 15 or 16 of those, and the work that they've done, folks, prior to me, learning about them have done to identify what are the antidotes to white supremacy culture. And that's where I think there is also a complete alignment of the antidotes to white supremacy, culture, with the effective leadership behaviors and practices. And so that's where I'm working on trying to empower more Latino leadership for folks to see themselves in that and to step into it, right, but to have some understanding of it based on the values that are also going to advance anti racism. And that's where I've been working with a friend of mine. And working with a friend of mine, Tanya, you know, Gonzalez, and we came out with a podcast series ourselves called adelante leadership. And we're interviewing a whole series of folks that are unrecognized, often unrecognized Latino community leaders, but having them share their wisdom, knowledge and experience to inspire and encourage others. And similarly, about when was it earlier this year, a lot of this thinking and work I've done with friends and colleagues in the nonprofit space led me to put on a workshop at the Washington nonprofit conference called applying anti racist leadership across the whole organization. And that workshop led to me co authoring a piece that just came out yesterday with a title very similar to that.   Michael Hingson  58:40 The reality is that if we really talk about leadership, and we look at leaders who are recognized, because maybe they lead companies, and so on, and they're the, the ultimate people in charge are the people who direct the smart leaders are the ones who know when to give up leadership to other people in the organization, because those people have specific expertise or gifts, that make them more able to strengthen part of the organization. And the wise leaders, the one that knows how to essentially what I'm saying is create a team where everybody can contribute and feel like that they can contribute.   Peter Bloch Garcia  59:26 And that example, is one of the antidotes to white supremacy culture. Sure, it is about sharing power. We you know, the example you're citing to me sounds like sharing power and that's where, you know, the, the, the, but not all, but right the people who are the CEO of an organization if they don't have sort of an awareness about power, because it they will never even be consciously or intentional to to share it because that's right Talk in the same way that racism is the default. So is hoarding power is the default?   Michael Hingson  1:00:07 Sure it is. And it makes you and the organization a whole lot less effective. When to use your terms you hoard power. Yeah, rather than recognizing the gifts that everyone has. And you talk about love and joy and healing, as being part of what one needs to do to deal with improving equity across the board. And the the good leader is joyous in finding other people who can add value to what they do. And for me, I've led organizations and one of the things that I say to most people and other people on this podcast have heard me say it before is, my job isn't to tell you what to do. My job is to add value to enhance what you do. You and I will figure that out together. Right? Absolutely, then that's what we really need to do is find more ways to work together, and we've got to make it a volitional process. Or we're, we're going to be in a real world of hurt, and it's going to become worse as time goes by, whether it's with climate change, racial or Yeah, attitudinal toward persons with disabilities or whatever the case happens to be.   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:01:17 Absolutely. Right. Right. And that's where for me, I think, fundamentally, you're reminding me, Michael, it's like, why, why this is important, these issues are important to me, is because at least if we can make some progress, it will reduce the pain and the harm and the hurt so that maybe more people will surely have opportunities to experience more happiness and joy. That everybody, that should be mental, right?   Michael Hingson  1:01:47 It should be. And we've got to get over thinking that we're better because they're different than us. Yes. So much. Well, Peter, tell me how can people reach out to you maybe learn more about you or find ways to work with you? And so on? Oh,   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:02:08 gosh, well, so I'm on Facebook and LinkedIn. Peter Bloch Garcia B L O C H oftentimes, P because it's pronounced block, but it's spelled with a ch instead, people often mix that up. Yes. But you know, any, I'm always responding to people on that reach out to me on LinkedIn or Facebook. They can find out more about the work I'm doing with my friend Tanya. on Atlantic leadership. It's Adelante leadership.com. They can find our jeeze, like to write it out.   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:02:53 It's a test. It is.   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:02:56 It is it's like, right, actually, because,   Michael Hingson  1:03:03 Oh, it's okay. Yeah,   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:03:05 A D, E, L, A, N, T, E, and then leadership all together as one word. Right? Yeah. Adelante means to like, kind of push forward to go forward. It's got sort of a, a sentiment in Spanish. That's, that's an encouragement to, you know, advance. And so, and we're kind of combining it trying to do some of these interviews, both in English and Spanish, so that it's a bilingual podcast. But it's adelanteleadership as one word.com.   Michael Hingson  1:03:42 And you're gonna say something about the podcast? How people can listen. Oh, right.   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:03:48 Yeah. And the podcasts are also available wherever podcasts like on Spotify or Apple, whatever platforms that people access podcasts they can find Atlantic leadership on   Michael Hingson  1:04:05 if people feel that they might be able to contribute to it, how can they explore being guests,   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:04:11 they can email us at, I think there's a mechanism on the website, but also other people have reached out to me through LinkedIn or Facebook. They have emailed me that way, too. I think we have a Facebook or LinkedIn adelante page. No, I know we have. I know we have an unrelenting LinkedIn page. Maybe that's where I've had some people reach out that I'm talking to this one young woman. She's, uh, I don't know how old she is. Dang, she's smart, young, Latina, like PhD, etc. That she just came across us on the internet on social media and emailed us. Cool. Yeah.   Michael Hingson  1:04:55 Well, I want to thank you for being here. And I want to continue this in the future. Sure, I'm sure there's going to be more that we can talk about. So I hope that we get you to come back on maybe you and Tanya both ought to come back on at some point. And because I'd love to continue this discussion, it's been fascinating. And I've learned a lot, and I hope others have as well. So I'm really glad that you were able to be here. And all of you listening, wherever you are, please reach out to Peter and learn more about Atlanta leadership.com. And learn more about the efforts that are going on and help all of us get rid of these prejudices around difference, because it doesn't matter whether you're dealing with race, or disabilities, or any topic that identifies somebody is different than somebody else, we've got to get rid of it. We've got to start recognizing we're all on the same planet, and we need to work together. So, Peter, thank you, but also, again, all of you, thank you. If you'd like to comment on today's podcast, please do so. You can email me at Michaelhi at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. Or go to the podcast page, Michael hingson H i n g s o n.com/podcast. Or, again, wherever you find this podcast. And as Peter said, wherever you can find podcasts. And I would ask that you give us a five star rating, please say positive things and give us a great rating. We appreciate it. Your comments and your thoughts are what help us. If you know of anyone else who should be a guest on our podcast, please let us know. And we would be glad to talk with you and them about that. So once again, Peter, thank you very much for being here with us today.   Peter Bloch Garcia  1:06:46 Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure.   Michael Hingson  1:06:53 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. 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La Radio Adventiste Béthanie de Pétion-ville présente une prédication du Pasteur Luc Elder le 31 Décembre 2022 soit le dernier sabbat de l'année

Question posée par Le Figaro. « Ce week-end encore, pointe le journal, la Chine a déployé 71 avions de combat lors de manœuvres autour de l'île démocratique, dont 60 avions de chasse – une de ses plus grandes incursions. » Pour sa part, « Taïwan muscle sa défense avec l'appui des États-Unis, pour dissuader Pékin. Le Congrès américain vient d'autoriser une nouvelle batterie de ventes d'armes à hauteur de dix milliards de dollars d'ici 2027, date d'une possible invasion chinoise, selon le Pentagone. Soit deux milliards par an d'ici là, pour doter l'île d'un arsenal de pointe, et d'une panoplie asymétrique capable de tenir en respect le "dragon" continental, en reprenant les recettes à l'œuvre en Ukraine ». Toutefois, cela sera-t-il suffisant ? « Taïwan sera-t-elle l'Ukraine de l'Asie ? », s'interroge Le Figaro. « Xi Jinping a placé [ce qu'il appelle] la "réunification" au cœur de son projet de renaissance chinoise. Dirigeant le plus autoritaire et le plus puissant depuis Mao, il espère laisser une trace dans l'histoire et a juré de faire mieux que le Grand Timonier en reprenant "par tous les moyens" l'ex-Formose pendant son règne. » Le petit dragon qui indispose Xi Jinping D'autant, pointe Le Figaro, que « Taïwan commence à faire tache dans l'horizon totalitaire du dictateur […]. Le petit dragon asiatique s'est hissé au rang de 15e puissance économique et s'est imposé comme une démocratie modèle depuis ses réformes politiques des années 1980. Il contredit ainsi la thèse de Xi selon laquelle les sociétés confucéennes sont inadaptées à la démocratie. » ► À lire aussi : Taïwan: le Premier ministre accuse Pékin de violer les règles de l'OMC Alors Taïwan « aura-t-elle assez de souffle pour tenir tête à la Chine ?, s'interroge encore Le Figaro. Taïwan […] se prépare à affronter seul le rouleau compresseur chinois… Mais avec une aide militaire massive de Washington, mieux ciblée grâce aux leçons de la guerre en Ukraine : moins de navires et d'équipements lourds, plus de missiles pour tenir à distance l'Armée populaire. Le petit dragon n'est pas près de renoncer : comme pour Kiev, il y va de sa survie. » La descente aux enfers des femmes afghanes À la Une également, les femmes en Afghanistan rabaissées au rang d'objets… « Depuis ce samedi, relève Sud Ouest, les Afghanes ne peuvent plus travailler dans les ONG, mais avant cela, elles avaient été bannies des universités, privées d'études secondaires aussi. Encore avant cela, elles avaient été exclues des emplois d'État, expulsées des parcs, des jardins, des séries télévisées, des films, des bains publics ou des salles de sport, et puis avant cela encore, elles avaient été [re]soumises à la tutelle d'un parent pour ne serait-ce que sortir dans la rue. Il ne s'agit pas d'une invisibilisation, s'exclame Sud Ouest, c'est une négation. » Le Monde s'indigne : « Les femmes afghanes ne peuvent être ainsi abandonnées, même si, pour leur plus grand malheur, il est pour l'instant illusoire d'espérer qu'une réaction internationale d'ampleur contraigne les talibans à mettre un terme à cette guerre intérieure. Un sursaut est pourtant d'autant plus nécessaire qu'il n'y a, hélas, rien à attendre des pays musulmans, pointe encore Le Monde, qui pourraient au moins tenter de faire entendre raison aux talibans à propos de l'usage dévoyé qu'ils font de la religion. Leur silence est une fois de plus assourdissant. » L'Église catholique dans la tourmente Enfin, « l'Église catholique française en pleine crise existentielle : c'est cata pour les cathos », lance Libération en première page. « Que disent les fidèles ? Que derrière les révélations sur les innombrables abus sexuels commis au sein de l'Église se cachent des abus de pouvoir au sein de l'institution. Car si la dernière grande révolution interne, celle de Vatican II, a ouvert les portes à une certaine modernité, elle n'a pas transformé l'organisation du pouvoir au sein de l'Église. Il reste donc encore trop vertical, opaque et masculin. À sa manière, l'air de rien, en misant sur un peu de plus de décentralisation, le pape François s'y essaye, relève Libération. Mais les résistances sont vives. La structuration du pouvoir au sein de l'institution catholique n'explique évidemment pas tout de la crise qu'elle traverse. Elle est aussi par exemple victime d'une pénurie des vocations, d'une crise de la ruralité, de l'individualisation croissante de la société. Il n'empêche, conclut Libération : c'est bien d'une vaste réforme de son organisation hiérarchique interne dont l'Église a besoin si elle veut ressusciter. »

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Le représentant de la Banque mondiale en Centrafrique Guido Rurangwa a pris ses fonctions à Bangui il y a quelques mois dans un contexte délicat. Alors que le gouvernement est en froid avec les bailleurs internationaux, que les appuis budgétaires ont été gelés et que les autorités prévoient un budget 2023 en baisse, il explique que l'institution demeure mobilisée auprès des Centrafricains.

L'émission qui dit tout haut ce que le monde du foot pense tout bas ! Cette année, l' « After Foot » fête ses 16 ans et propose un choc des générations ! Composée de ceux qui ont grandi avec l'After, la « Génération After » prendra les commandes de l'émission entre 20h et 22h. Avec Nicolas Jamain aux manettes, entouré de Kévin Diaz, Mathieu Bodmer, Walid Acherchour, Simon Dutin, Romain Canuti et Sofiane Zouaoui, cette nouvelle génération débattra avec passion, mais toujours en conservant les convictions et les codes de l'After. De 22h à minuit, place à la version originelle et historique de l'After autour de Gilbert Brisbois, Daniel Riolo, Stéphane Guy, et Florent Gautreau. Les soirs de Ligue des Champions, Jérôme Rothen rejoindra la bande pour les matchs du PSG et Mamadou Niang pour les matchs de l'OM. Nicolas Vilas sera aux commandes pour faire vivre les matchs dans l'After Live. Cette année, Thibaut Giangrande pilotera l' « After Foot » le vendredi et samedi.

Au cœur de la nuit, les auditeurs se livrent en toute liberté aux oreilles attentives et bienveillantes de Yann Moix. Pas de jugements ni de tabous, une conversation franche mais aussi des réponses aux questions que les auditeurs se posent. Un moment d'échange et de partage propice à la confidence pour repartir le cœur plus léger.

Le contexte actuel, marqué par la guerre en Ukraine et une forte inflation, se signale par sa morosité. Dans ces conditions, on pourrait penser que les fêtes de Noël vont apporter un peu de répit et tempérer le pessimisme ressenti par les Français. Mais il n'en est rien, du moins pour une partie d'entre eux. En effet, à l'occasion d'une enquête récente sur leurs sujets d'inquiétude, à l'approche des fêtes, 34 % des personnes interrogées avouaient que le principal d'entre eux était de ne pas pouvoir faire de cadeaux pour Noël, ou d'en faire moins. De leur côté, les parents sont 44 % à éprouver cette crainte. Soit 8 % de plus qu'en 2021. L'augmentation générale des prix, et la baisse consécutive du pouvoir d'achat, ne laisse guère le choix à de nombreuses personnes. Ainsi, d'après ce sondage, 51 % des Français devront se résoudre à réduire le budget consacré aux cadeaux de Noël. Cette situation est souvent mal vécue. Ainsi, 43 % des personnes interrogées éprouvent de la honte, et même de la culpabilité, à l'idée de moins gâter leurs enfants et leurs proches. Environ la moitié des parents pense même se priver de cadeaux pour pouvoir en offrir à leurs enfants. 18 % comptent sur l'aide de leur famille pour pouvoir en acheter et près de la moitié a l'intention de se contenter d'objets d'occasion. Et cette tendance est d'autant plus nette que le prix des jouets a progressé, en moyenne, d'environ 6 % sur un an, certaines marques augmentant encore plus leurs tarifs. Le sondage révèle cependant d'autres préoccupations qui, si elles inquiètent moins de personnes, n'en contribuent pas moins à assombrir cette période de fêtes pour de nombreux Français. Ainsi 27 % d'entre eux craignent de passer Noël dans la solitude, alors que 21 % des personnes interrogées redoutent de ne pas pouvoir préparer un vrai repas de fête. D'autres encore se désolent à la pensée de devoir travailler durant cette période ou ont peur de ne pas recevoir de cadeaux. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So It's More Than just Pronouns Now?              Today:   John reports that an English teacher in California has decided that teaching grammar is racist and wonders if she still has a job.  Then, Dawn Keefer, PA State Representative (District 92), talks about joining fellow representative David Rowe (District 85) to lead the new Pennsylvania Freedom Caucus.  Later, economist Michael Austin with the Project 21 Black Leadership Network explains why California's new reparations plan is a bad idea.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"Dieu ne veut pas qu'un seul de ces petits soit perdu" Méditation de l'évangile (Mt 18, 12-14) par le père Bernard Devert Chant final: "Mon Berger" par le groupe Glorious

Les astronomes fondaient de grands espoirs sur le télescope James Webb, lancé en décembre 2021. Et ils avaient bien raison. Ce remarquable instrument vient en effet de leur livrer des informations qu'ils n'attendaient pas si tôt. Elles sont en rapport avec la formation des galaxies. C'était en effet l'une des missions du télescope : observer la manière dont se sont formées les premières galaxies, peu de temps après le Bing Bang qui, rappelons-le, remonte à environ 13,8 milliards d'années. Or, les images apportées par le télescope ont provoqué l'étonnement des scientifiques. En effet, elles montrent que des galaxies ont pu apparaître à une date bien plus précoce que ce qu'on imaginait jusque-là. Les données fournies par le télescope ont permis d'identifier de très anciennes galaxies. L'une d'elles se serait même formée 350 millions d'années après le Big Bang. Soit 50 millions d'années de moins que la galaxie considérée jusque-là comme la plus vieille de l'univers. Ces galaxies sont non seulement plus précoces que prévu mais aussi plus nombreuses. Les astrophysiciens les imaginent donc assez massives. Et, dès lors, ils se demandent comment ces galaxies ont pu forger autant d'étoiles en si peu de temps. Il s'agirait également de galaxies plus petites que la Voie Lactée. Les observations du télescope James Webb conduisent à revoir certains modèles. Les scientifiques doivent notamment admettre, ce qu'ils jugeaient improbable jusque-ici, que des galaxies ont pu apparaître seulement 100 millions d'années après le Big Bang. Le télescope permet aussi d'appréhender l'allure de ces galaxies. Et, là encore, les astronomes ont éprouvé une surprise. Ils n'imaginaient pas qu'elles pouvaient avoir une forme aussi régulière, aussi "tranquille", pour reprendre le terme utilisé par l'un d'eux. Ce qui, là encore, remet en cause la manière dont les scientifiques envisageaient la formation de ces premières galaxies, au sein d'un univers encore très agité. Le télescope aura encore à fournir d'autres données, notamment pour préciser la forme exacte de ces très vieilles galaxies, mais aussi la distance qui nous en sépare. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark: Well, look, it's really it's a, it's a long journey. I've read your book, I've read many books, I've been in this game for a long time. It's very difficult to sum it up in literally minutes, I suppose. But after reading a book just recently, and listening to all your podcasts a lot lately, I've delved into a lot of it and taken many, many things out of each person's story, which I can resonate wholeheartedly with. But I probably got into Options back in 2006. And I've probably come and gone with it a lot. I've started and stopped, due to various reasons, obviously, life, I've got kids and family and work commitments and stuff like that. But it's always been, I suppose, a hobby. But trying to make that jump or trying to get into it. Full time is obviously difficult for lack of funds or lack of time and effort. I don't know, there's always seems to be something that comes up that stops me from progressing. Having said that, I'm a pretty committed person. I'm pretty disciplined. I've been doing it now for a long time. But like, if you look through him on the table here, I've got trading stuff sitting everywhere, notes. Mark: I've crunched the wheel so many times I've done the shiny diamond thing. I've gone from one program to another. I've spent numerous amounts of funds on various programs and different services such as yourself. I don't know this Option Genius has been around in my life, I suppose, on and off. So I don't know like I've all I'm a big advocate for what you say and what you do. I've wholeheartedly believe that I've been selling options for a long time I've done credit spreads, I've done strangles I've done butterflies, I've done covered calls, I've done a lot of those strategies, or centered around selling options. And I've been doing it for a long time. But for some reason, I just can't seem to break through the ceiling, I just cannot seem to be there to go from this hobby, like training interest that I seem to be involved with, to getting to that next level. I suppose I when I found out that we're going to do this call. Set last night I sat down I tried to write out things that would be good to discuss or to ask you. And I've got like all this paper sitting you have all these notes that I've made, as you would have seen in my email, it was quite lengthy. I think one of the assistants said all that email is probably the longest one I've ever received, that I really okay then.  Allen: Like, you know, because we get, we get lots of emails every day and some people, right? Some people write two paragraphs, but when somebody goes in deep, and they really share their, you know, their soul pretty much. It's like, Hey, I've been doing this and this and this, and this, and I don't know what's going on, then, like we you can feel it when somebody is really, really wanting to make it work. And so those most of those get passed on to me. And when I read it, I was like, alright, you know, we need to we need to talk about this. Because if you've been doing this for years, then like, I have not doing my job. I've let you down in some way that because you know, you shouldn't still be feeling that way. I know. But it's not uncommon. You know, we come across many, many people that come to us and say, hey, you know, I've been doing this for a long time. But you know, it never clicked for me. But you will.. Mark: Yeah, I can see that. So many people that you talk to, you know, have the same they're trying and trying to trying to find the right system, the right setup the right, whatever it is just can't seem like I feel to break through that ceiling. Like you're stuck underneath the water. You're swimming hard. You're learning this, you're watching that you're reading this you're researching. You're looking at the charts to pair with analysis, paralysis, all that stuff. And I've made lots of trades. I've done lots of trading. I've been I've been I won't say successful because clearly we wouldn't be on this call otherwise, but I've made money, but I've also lost money. I've got scars, I've got all that stuff I've had I've had losses, but still here I am battling looking at all that stuff that you talked about in the book in that book really resonated with me there's a lot of stuff in there that I thought I can do this. I know I can do it. Why am I doing it? Why it's just what why does it elude me so much? Is it just a pipe dream and more and more just a duck on the water swimming and just never gonna get there? I don't know. Allen: So you know, when we when we got the email, when they forwarded to me, they asked me like, hey, what do you think the problem is here? Does he not know enough? And my answer to them was No, I think he knows too much. He knows too much. That's part of the problem. I'm just guessing here and I wanted to try to get to the root of it. But you know a lot of the times when so there's there's different things that you need. Everybody needs different things to in order to succeed in anything. Obviously, you know, you need to know what to do you need to how to do it. You know, you have to practice you have to put in the time. You need somebody Do that can actually has doing it like coach that's teaching you, you need a team or a teammate or somebody to do it with. These are all different things that that can help. But a lot of times we come across people that have been, you know, bouncing around from program to program, like you said, they know all the different strategies, they know everything, they know how it works. Some people come and they know it better than I do. You know, so they're, they're telling me that, oh, the Vega this is this and the Gamma and the theta and the row and all this other, you know, they're touching on the Greeks, and they're managing by the Greeks, and they're doing all these complicated stuff. But they're like, it's still not working, why is it not working? So I think, if it can work for somebody else, it can work for you. And I firmly believe that in just about anything, except maybe sports, you know, should somebody else could dunk the ball, maybe I can't dunk the ball. But in trading, a lot of it is I think, 80 to 90% of it is menta. Mark: I've totally, totally, totally. Allen: So there might be something that is holding you back, or, you know, maybe like I don't know, so let's get into it. So now you've mentioned a couple of times that you haven't gotten to the next level. So tell me what is the next level? What is the goal that you're trying to get to? Mark: Well, I think the goal is the same for everybody's, you know, everyone's trying to make income, like, right, I have a I mean, I'm in I'm a cop. So I work in a profession that I see myself coming to a fork in the road. I've been doing this job now for over 14 years, for 10 years. And before that I was in a private industry, we had a family business. So I understand all the dynamics of running a business, how it operates. We had a family business for over 30 years. And long story short, we got out of that for various reasons. And then I got into the government sector, which is a totally different psyche altogether, which took me some time to try and come to terms with. Having said that, I've forever in my wife, and I've come from a family that has been heavily invested in property, shares, businesses, and stuff like that. So I've always had this belief that I can do something with my life that will be able to produce constant income money have investments, like I've had investment properties, and I've done the share thing now on the option things for a long time. And I'm not destitute, I'm not desperate, I have a house, I have three beautiful children and family sort of stuff. But I want to go to the next level I want to be able to provide, I want to be able to teach my kids trading, I want to be able to show them how to invest all the money stuff, like all that sort of thing. I feel as if I'm promoting this stuff, yet, I haven't really truly succeeded myself. I haven't got to the level where they can say okay, Mark, look at you've got all this great stuff, and that show me how to do it. And when they do ask me, I'm sort of thinking so I will not really, I can talk about it. I've read about it, and I'm doing it, but I really haven't got what you think I have. Having said that. Getting back to the trading side of it. I think I want to have this as a business, I can see the potential in it as you can do from home. It's all in front of you in the net. I don't have to go out I don't have to be injured tree. I understand that. I do know a lot about it. I understand all those things you just mentioned with the Greeks and what not right? And I probably do, I probably do know too much. And I do want to keep it simple. I do say to myself, when I'm doing it, just keep it simple. Why do you need to have this indicator? Why do we need to be having that? I totally agree with what you've promoted and talked about for so long. And I think I was probably watching on Option Genius probably before you even started doing podcasts. But over the years, I've come and gone. I've been involved with and I've been with other things. And I've on and off as we mentioned before, right? All right. Does that help answer the question? Allen: No. So what what what do you mean by the next level? Is it an income? Is it is it a certain amount of money in the account is a certain amount of money every month? Where it is it that you say okay, now I've arrived now I have achieved my goal? What what is that number so that you would be able to be like, Yes, I feel happy though. Mark: Okay, so I've sort of thought about that. And I've put a number down to 10k. Now that's a pie in the sky dream. That's a pie in the sky dream. I know. And that's a long way off being achieved. I would just like to be able to see some consistency, all that stuff that you promote consistent, being profitable, and I can do that. But then as you know, you get one or two trades that wipe you out, wipe it back to zero and then it got to start again. Right? So just not we're just not getting that constant. Right? What do they call it.. Allen: Okay, so 10k is the goal. Now, it's not a it's not a it's not a pipe dream. It's so 10k is the goal. If you got 10k every month, you'd be happy. You'd be like okay, I've made it you know I'm accomplishing And that this stuff is actually working. Finally, this stuff is actually working if you were making 10k a month. So tell me, what is it that you think is keeping you from doing that? Mark: Well, clearly a lack of funds at this stage. But I have had numerous accounts where they've had a substantial amount of money in there, but I've just brought it right back down to just doing one lots, until I can see the consistency and seeing that, the, that my trading works, it's consistent, well, then we can scale up. So I'd rather than that, so I'm happy to do just one month a month, which means I'm not gonna make 10 grand in the near future, right, those types of trades, but we can scale that up at a later date. Allen: But what do you so if you were to say, hey, Alan, give me this one thing, and I know I can make tons of money. What is that one thing? Mark: Well, I suppose it's like a business plan, isn't it, like a franchise to follow a step by step thing, do this, do this, do this, do that put it on, obviously, there's a little bit of, there's gonna have to be a little bit of a thought process and feel for the market. But I suppose I need a plan. Like I know how to put the trade on, I know how to do a credit spin on it, for example, but I suppose I need a set of rules or business plan or like something to follow. So that way, I can just follow the recipe for a particular day, not particular strategy, but it's very hard to identify it or pinpoint it down to one thing. Like I've written all these notes in the book and pages and pages of all these things that you're discussing the iPad and whatnot, and try to answer those questions myself. Like, what am I looking for? What's stopping me I've written here a recipe, a plan, a template to follow rules to follow or to abide by tools, treat it like a franchise, for instance. So that way, I'm not deviating to another thing. So I have it on my wall and write down Am I following those particular plans? Does that is that sort of answer the question?  Allen: So do you not have any trading plans right now? I mean, you said you were in different programs and everything so did you do you have any that you've been using as a guideline as a framework? Mark: The cover I've written things down in the past but I suppose sticking to it, or having it visible is difficult. I suppose someone to write one with me or for me to say right this is a trading plan. This is what you need to have in it to follow I suppose I haven't really been given a choice like if it says write a trading plan, write down this stuff, write it down, but I suppose I just want to try it like this is what's going on my head just put the trades on just put the trades on work with the probabilities. Yeah, it should work out. Allen: Okay, and are you conservative or aggressive? Mark: I believe I'm conservative in the sense where at the moment like with the one loss, so like, if I was aggressive, I'd be going right I'm pretty positive this trades gonna work of two or five, or 10 lot but at the moment, it's like let's just hold back and do one more being conservative. I think I can be aggressive if I need to be but on how Allen: And how much percentage return are you looking to make? Mark: I knew you're gonna ask me that question. And I don't actually have a percentage. I've just I suppose a bad way of saying it but I just keep putting the trades on and hope that the probabilities work out so I don't have a particular percentage amount that I've got Okay. When you ask that question Allen: obviously so obviously you know, just putting the trades on hoping they work out that's not working. So we're gonna have we're have to refine this What strategy do you think most appeals to you? Mark: Well, obviously I've been working on the credit spread that's probably the one thing that I've done the most of the credit spreads like I've done in many others, but that's the one that I've probably done the most so in the last few years. Allen: Okay, and are you keeping track record of all the trades that you've been doing? Mark: No, I don't. I have written them down in the past. I do try to follow that put it in a journal, but over time, it just becomes cumbersome I suppose like it's writing it all down. I don't I don't stick to it. It's probably the kind of problem there. Allen: So what you said is you want to franchise, and in the franchise are going to tell you the first thing is to document everything you're doing. Because we cannot tell what's going wrong if we don't know what you already did. So having a firm plan that says okay, I'm gonna put this trade on and writing down why, why am I putting this trade on? Because it's moving higher because it's got news coming out because it's high. It's, you know, very volatile right now or the IV is off or whatever their reasoning is, you put the rig, you put it there, you write the trade, you record what happened, why or why did not work out. And then after you do a whole bunch of these, you can go back and look at it and say, okay, every time I do a trade that's at, you know, 35 Delta, it works wonderfully. But every time I do any other Delta, it doesn't work. So I'm just going to do that 35 delta. So if you want to find your own trading plan, then this is how you do it. Now, this is a long way to do it, it's going to take a long time, because you're going to have to test different things and try different things and see what's working, what's not working. But it would be one way for you to create your own plan based on what you find you're more comfortable in, because some people they come in and they tell me, hey, you know what I want to do Credit spreads, and I want to do 2025 Delta spreads, some people don't want to do five Delta spreads, you know, so everybody's comfortable with different things. And then based on the amount of credit they get, then we can figure out okay, how do we how do we manage the trade, some people should be not managing the trade at all, they should just be getting in and getting out at a certain amount. Some people, they can go ahead and say, hey, my trade is going bad, I'm going to, you know, adjust it or do something else with it. So depending on what we're thinking, when we get in will dictate what we do when we're in the trade. Mark: So now that I know what I do for trades, there are particular entry signals that I looked for, like I don't just go and find a stock and then look up a chain and then play delta and put it on. I do have, like, for example, I think there's market volume, I use volume. So obviously, when volume is increasing, I'll have them put on a put trade, obviously, when the stocks turning or progressing. And obviously over the three averages, like you say, things like that. So there are particular indicators, and not too many I do try and keep it fairly simple, I believe, before I put anything on, so I do try and put the weight in my favor. And the advocate of that, of course, by using those some small indicators to try and get it on sideways or progressing in the in the direction that we think it's going. So I do look at that I'm not a big person, I'm gonna use a 35, Delta, or 45, or whatever. Right? Okay, I understand the Delta side of things. But it's more about volume, I suppose at this stage and what. Allen: Okay, so that that's good to know. Right? So I mean, what I would do is, I probably have a sheet, kind of like a checklist, you know, so get it out of your head, and onto an actual piece of paper, where every single trade you have to mark it off, you know, the volume is high, yes, you know, movement is this way or whatever, whatever your your things are, you check it off. One, two, three.. Mark: I actually have done that I can attest that I have done that I've written down, like when the bar gets lower than the level of bar, it's time to get in or when a turn when it points up. It's getting. So I have written most things down in the past. Yes. Allen: So that'll be your trade law right there. That's if you do if you have the discipline to do that, before you put in the trade, you'll you'll know at the end, okay. You know, just go back to that journal and be like, Okay, what worked and what didn't work? What are the patterns. And that's kind of the stuff that I was doing originally, when I was first starting to figure this stuff out, is look at every single one. And now I have my my checklist, where if there are two or three things that I cannot mark off, I don't put the trade on, because I know that hey, there's not enough, you know, these things are really important. I want them, I don't want to put a trade on without everything checked off. Allen: Now, that doesn't mean that I'm not going to lose, like you still lose on the trade with everything checked off. But like you said, you know, we're putting the odds in our favor. As many times if you have a checklist, like you said you did. That's your journal right there. And so before you put on the trade, you just mark it off, you know, check, check, check, check, oh, I can't check this one. Then later on, after the trades are done, you do 2030 trades, at least, then you can go back and look at and say okay, I lost on these three trades. What is the pattern I lost on these five trades? What is the pattern? And you might find a pattern, you don't have to but you might find something that say okay, these indicators, you know, they're not working or they are working. The other thing is, I mean, it's, it's really simple, right? You find the strategy that you want. And you said, Hey, I found the strategy. Second step is to find the trading plan, that you think you think will work and then is just test it and trade it and do it over and over over again. But the important part is that you have to stick to the plan. Do you think you stick to the plan, or is it? Is it a discipline? Mark: Tell me, tell me, what got you out? I've read your book or listen to your story. What part got you through that ceiling? Obviously, we're doing the same thing as we all do for such a long period of time. But there must have been something that clicked or something that you did or something did you get into? Was it a program for you? Was it someone that you got? Hold on What, what got you to that next level that we all tried to get to? Allen: It took time, it took discipline, there were a few things that really helped me. One was really sticking to the rules that I had set up. And really, it's about, you know, when it comes down to it, it's about putting the trades on with the odds in your favor as many ways as you can. And I learned about that later on, you know, having different different levels. But what I started to do, and the ones that I really started doing well on, and in the beginning, were iron condors. For some reason, that strategy really, really clicked with me. And I was like, Oh, my God, I gotta work. No, no, it doesn't work right now. But he's like, you know, that strategy really worked. And it was like, Oh, I can adjust it. So I might never lose money in the trades. It's just really awesome. But I still was having trouble following the rules. Because, you know, you have to work that. So there were there were a few ways. Number one is my wife got involved. Allen: So every day, she would, like I would have a list of all of my trades, and I would have all the rules, like when I needed to do what, so every day at a certain time, she would come upstairs because I was working from home and she wasn't she wasn't working. So she would come upstairs. And she would ask me, Okay, let's go through every single trade one by one by one. And so she'd be she'd have her notes. And she's, okay, this trade on Russell. Where is it now? And they go, Okay, this, it's up this much money, or it's down this much money? Okay. When are you going to adjust? Well, when this happens? And they said, where is it now? Say, Oh, it's right here. So do you have to adjust it? No, not yet. Okay, cool. Next one. All right. I did this. Okay. Why did you do this trade? And when are you going to adjust it? Should you have adjusted it? Yeah, I should have adjusted already. Why didn't you adjust it? Ah, I don't know. She's like, Oh, what the hell are you doing?  Mark: All that is basically you got your wife involved? Allen: I mean, not just involved, but she was holding me accountable. So I had to answer because she doesn't need to know anything about trading. But she just needs to look at my rules and ask me the questions like, hey, what's the trade doing? Is it up or down? Why have you not? What are you going to do about it? And if there is something to do about it, what are you going to do? So it's just asking yourself those questions every single day. And it helped. I used to do that on my own. But I would always ignore the answers. Because I didn't have anybody to answer to. It's like, oh, I'm a trader, I'm the boss, I make my I'll make the decisions. But when she came in, I knew I had to answer to her. And if I don't have a good reason, then I'm putting her money on the line as well. Right? I'm putting her future on the line as well. So we would have a discussion about that. So I knew in advance, I knew, Okay, she's coming at one o'clock, I need to make sure I got everything right. I'm doing everything right. Otherwise, we're gonna have an argument. And so I needed her. Like, in the beginning, I wasn't, I was I lost a lot of money. And so the only reason that I didn't have to go out and get a job was because she was patient with me. But it was part of it was like, she's going to be the boss, right? Until I turn it around. And until I break the ceiling, she's the boss. She's going to tell me what I can do what I cannot do based on how I'm doing. And so I call that my one o'clock, you know, fire drill. It's like every day at one o'clock, I still do it. I go through every single trade and I look at it and say okay, is this trade up or down? It's up. Okay, good. Allen: What happens if it goes down a little bit? Am I still going to be okay? Yes. Okay, move on to the next one. And so I don't have time to do that on 100 trades. So that's why I limit the number of trades I have. But every day I go in and I look at it and I monitor it I know where each trade stands. So that before it starts to get into trouble, I know and I can look at it and be like okay, this one I need to monitor this one I need to adjust early or this one I need to maybe just exit it because it's not acting right. It's not acting properly. So It kind of gives me you know, so having that while you go in every day and look at each trade, and everybody does that. But in order to you ask yourself the right questions, and then you have to do what you need to do. So just monitoring the trades, and just checking on them is not enough. You have to know, okay, this is my plan, and I have to do this, then you have to stick to it. And then if you have an accountability partner, or if you have a wife or a child, or whatever, if somebody comes in and asks you, hey, you were supposed to do this, well, why didn't you do it? And then you have to answer to them. So when you have somebody else there, that automatically, I mean, that instantly made me better, like instantly, the first day, second day she came in, you know, I just I just started following the rules, because I knew I had to, I had to give her an answer. So that was one of the things that did it. Allen: The other thing was that I realized that this is a long term game. And so you've read the passive Trading Book. So I wrote that book, because I saw that if you're only selling options, eventually, you don't like the options can go against you. So what I mean by that is, in the financial crisis, when we had the financial crisis in 2008, there was everything was just going up and down. And so if I had options on if I trades on those trades lost, and then I could never get that money back. That's when I realized that, okay, you know, if I want to play the long game, if I want to be in this forever, I cannot let something else knock me out. I cannot let a COVID 19 pandemic knock me out, I can't let the financial crisis I can't let you know, the President making some decision and sending the stocks down, knocked me out. And so I started building up the foundation of stocks, and using those to generate capital on those. And the idea is, hey, I want to own the stocks as my foundation. But I want to use options as basically like a rocket ship, you know, so I wanted to boost the returns. So I'm gonna have conservative stuff in the in the main portfolio, you know, where I have the stocks, and I'm making money. Mark: I totally agree with all right. Yeah. Allen: So, you know, that was now Mark: I totally agree with all that, definitely. Allen: So you can't start off that way. Because it takes a lot of money to own that stocks. So in the beginning, you do have to get good at picking one strategy, getting good at it, just following it and being disciplined, and saying, Hey, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to follow it along. Now, again, long term, picture wise, every month, you're not going to make money, every trade is not going to make money. So you have to have that in your in your mindset that, hey, sometimes it's gonna work, and sometimes it's not. So there's lots of lots of little little things that you can improve on it. But the biggest thing that I'm seeing is that you have to follow the plan. Mark: So Allen, do you think that I would benefit? Like I know you're selling plenty of courses, promote what you promote in the book. And I totally agree with all that, I get it on one side. But if I was to do another course, such as yours, I my fear is, and we're just going down that same rabbit holes, as I've done before, hence why I'm confused as to why I can't seem to break that ceiling. If I was to go into a course such as yours, this one that you're the passive trading and whatnot, I worry that I really fear that a year I am going into it again, I'm doing another course. But I understand the strategy. I think now I need more of a coach, maybe I need maybe that one on one, maybe maybe that's what I need. Or maybe there are things that I'm not happy to admit to that I do that I need to be changed. I need to be molded stead of going down this direction on to be heading over in this little bit direction over here with my trading. I understand the why thing. That's a great thing in my voice. She's a great supporter of me. I am trying to I'm trying to get out of work. She works. I'm trying to get her out, keep trying and trying and time is your course gonna sit me on that path to freedom. Allen: So it's like, you know, I mean, I'll give you an example. Like when people go to college, right? They everybody's told go to college, go to college, some people they go to college, and they just they just party the whole time and they don't get anything out of it. Some people go and they study, study, study, study, study, and they get a good job. Some people go and they make lots of contacts, you know, they they meet, they make lots of friends. They meet lots of teachers so that when they get out, they know a lot of people and they have a good network and then that helps them so it's really up to each person individually. Now I would love to say that yes, every single person that takes my course makes them million dollars. But that's not the reality. You know, people come in, life happens, they take it seriously, they don't take it seriously. And, you know, that's, that's one part I cannot control. So I cannot tell you that, yeah, you know what, it's going to work for you just because it's, I'm amazing. And I'm a wonderful person, and it's just gonna work. 90% of it is on you, I can give you everything I know, I can do it with you. But again, the markets have to cooperate. Number one, and then number two, it has to click for you, you have to do it, and you have to practice it. And you have to stick to the plan. A lot of times when people come into my programs, and they tell me Oh, hey, you know, I'm doing XYZ, I'm like, but that's not what I have in the plan. Allen: That's not what I have in the program. They're like, yeah, no, but I'm changing. I'm like, okay, but have you done it my way? No, not yet. But then why did you join my program, you could do your own way. Without my program, you don't need to pay for my program, right? If you're going to pay for something. And if you believe that, hey, yeah, this guy knows what he's talking about this thing works, I think it works. If you're going to pay for it, then just follow that step by step by step and don't change it. Unless it works.  Allen: When it starts working, then only then would you say, Okay, now I'm going to, you know, change it up, because I think I can, I can be a little bit more aggressive, or, hey, I want to be a little bit more conservative, or I want to change it up a little bit. But you don't do that until it's always working. So the problem is that people that have been doing this for a long time, they know all the strategies, they've listened to many other coaches, you know, they come in, and they're like, Well, you know, I don't like that one thing, I'm going to change, I don't like that thing, I'm going to change. And so they start doing it their own way and they don't listen. And so you can't take stuff from this course and this course and this course and mash it into a Frankenstein, and then tell me "Oh, it didn't work?" Well, because I don't know why that guy told you to do that. And I don't know why that other guy told you to do that. Or the only thing I know is if you do it this way, you'll get the similar results that what I'm doing. Now, if you add and change it, then I can't help. So, you know, like you're saying that we have, I think there's like four pillars that I tell people that people need. So if you want to learn how to do something, you need these four pillars. Number one is you need the right strategy, which you've already said is, hey, that's the credit spread, right? Number two, you need the trading plan that works. So number three, is you need other people to do it with because you're doing it all alone, like you said, you know, you might need a wife, if you don't have a wife or partner like that, then you can have a community or other students that are doing it the same way. Allen: And then number four, you need a coach that can actually show you what he's doing, because he's still doing it. And he's actually doing it right now, instead of somebody that said, oh, yeah, I was a market maker 30 years ago, and I don't trade anymore. So I think those are the four things and depends on which everybody needs. So the coaching part is the one that takes the most time. And that's why those coaching programs are the most expensive. Allen: In my passive trading course. You know, we give you the trading plan. It's like okay, here, this is the plan, these are the rules, you follow it and, you know, good luck. But there's no one on one coaching. There's no group, you know, where we are, where we're doing and looking at the trades. And so when we have that passive trading course, it's a cheaper course. And so people would join it, and they would go through the modules. And some people would have a lot of success, some people wouldn't. So I said, What, what's the problem? Why are they not? Why is it not working? And I realized that it would help if they could just spend a lot more time with me. And so we created that credit spread mastery course, where every week, we get on the call, and we're just looking for trades, we're managing trades, we're adjusting trades, doing it together. So the point of that is, here's the rules. Here's the trading plan. Now let's do it together, over and over and over and over and over and over. And so once you have that habit of doing it the same way over and over and over the other, the other ideas, the other habits kind of die off. So I've seen that that program does deliver results. So we back it up and we say hey, look, if you're in our program, and the program doesn't work, like you don't if you're not profitable in our program, then we keep you in the program. We keep working with you. We keep you in the class until you become profitable. And so even if the markets not cooperating That's fine, we'll learn how to manage it together. And then we'll stay longer in the program, if you'd have to be.. Mark:  So with your target trading alum, obviously, it does take a type of market. And obviously, that's why through the last six months with Covid whatnot, it would be easy Earth to do that type of training, because obviously, it just went straight up didn't keep they're still on put, credit spreads the load of was money for Jim, in a market such as what we're in now, which is up and down, up and down. It's far more difficult, isn't it? Allen: Currently it is more difficult, doesn't mean it's impossible. So we do have to dial back our, we have to dial back our expectations. So last year, the year before, you know, making 10% a month, 7-8% a month, not a big deal, it was pretty simple. You know, put the trades on most of them work out in anybody, and everybody was making money. Like any you know, you could buy anything, and it was going up any everyone is making money. This is a market where you have to be really good at selection, trade selection, and management. So you have to know when things are turning around, and when to get out before they get really bad. Allen: So the trade management, sticking to your stop loss is very important right now. And those are things that most people get afraid of, you know, so it's like, okay, I put the trade on, it should work. And then oh, no, the stocks turning around, what do I do what I do, and they don't do anything. So if your thing is part of, if you're doing as part of a group or in a program, then be like, hey, we need to get out, we need to get out, get out, get out. Some people let people know, Mark: There's that mental component, that's the biggest part. And as I've gone along this journey, if all these years, I've realized more so in the latest year, it's not about the strategy. It's not about all that stuff. That mental side of it, it's 80-20, Mark Douglas, the book, the trading zone, I listened to that over and over and over again, and various other podcasts and whatever other things, but trying to pull the trigger when you're in a loss is it wasn't so hard, we put this trade on, it was gonna work a met the probabilities, it was all looking good, it was under the over the top of the averages. I had volume, blah, blah. But all of a sudden, now I'm underwater again. And here we go again, and then I've got to pull a trigger to get out to take that loss. Mark: And I have taken some big losses in the past, I've had to pull the trigger, just recently with the weekly trading system. And when that I mean, there's Solomon says, I've been there for a couple of weeks, again, I've been on and off over the over many years. And all of a sudden, now I'm having to pull the trigger again to get out because we lose money. Like it's hard. It's another scar, isn't it another scar, not a scar, it's another get back down there. You know, I don't want to see you do any good. It's difficult, you know, and that's that mental side of it is arguments or trading? Allen: Yep. The emotions, you know, the emotions have to be kept in check. So there's different ways that you could do that, you know, one, one of the ways is people say that you divorce or divorce yourself from the outcome. So whether you win or lose, doesn't matter make a Mark: ..difference? Exactly what I totally agree with that. And that skill is very difficult. Allen: Yeah, your job is to just follow the plan and stick to the plan. And if you can do that, eventually, over the long run, it'll work out, you know, maybe you have losing trades, that's fine. But over the long run, it should work out. So too much of it, like you said, you know, like, oh my god, I'm, I'm going to be negative again, oh, my God, I'm gonna have to pull the trigger. And oh, my God, you know, when you have that kind of reaction, that compounds and it just makes it all, it makes it much harder to get out of the trade when there is a loss. The other there's one lady, she told me something that really worked for her. She goes, You know what, this is not my money. This is God's money. And what what are you talking about as God's money? She goes, Well, I use this money. And I use the gains from the money to do good. Because they use it for charity work. So she's like, I don't need the money to live. Because I have enough income I have enough. You know, I have I have money coming in that I live off of. But this is my trading money. And so I take the money that I make, and I give it away to charity, and I do good things with it. So it's really God's money, and I cannot lose God's money. There's no way I can lose money. And so if I'm if I'm going negative, that the trade is losing, I get out right away because I don't want God mad at me because it's not my money. So that's another way you could look at it. That you know, again, it's it's taking yourself out of the outcome, you know, and it's not like okay, it's not under my control. So you've got the wife coming in and asking you what you're doing and why it's working or why it's not working and being accountable. You have you know, not looking at the outcome just getting better as a trader, just hey, I need to do my skills, whether it wins or not, that's not up to me. That's up to the market, I can't control that. But I can follow my plan. That's up to me. The other thing is, you know, not looking at it in emotional point of view, like, Hey, this is not my, maybe this is my kid's mind. Maybe this is, you know, God's money, however you want to look at it, but it's not yours. So if you lose it, it's bad. Like, that's the worst thing to happen. You know. So there's, there's three different ways that you can mentally overcome the different obstacles. But again, I think one thing that we haven't talked about yet is to simplify, right? So you've done all the different strategies, and I'm sure, you know, some of it is creeping in. And, you know, it's like, oh, you know, I got to do this, or I'm going to, I'm going to wait for this indicator, or I'm going to wait for these Bollinger Bands, or the Fibonacci, or the technicals, or any of that stuff, the more you simplify it, the easier it becomes to actually follow through with it. And so I think, you know, just one strategy, not chasing after the shiny object, you know, it's like, Hey, make a decision. If it's spread, spreads, and that's the only thing you focus on, and you get rid of everything else, you stopped listening to everything else, you unsubscribe from all the emails, you know, whatever, whatever service that you choose, like, Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to follow this plan, I'm going to, you know, if you've taken a course, maybe you've already taken a course, you have a course that you've tak`en and be like, Okay, I like this course, I'm going to follow this course, we'll get rid of everything else. Just go through it. Master that and don't do anything else until you know what that is, until you get the results that you're supposed to get it. In the beginning, when I started screwing up, like I would learn something, and then I would do good for a little bit and then I would mess up. And then I would do good, then I would mess up. So I was like, What the hell do I do? Well, I would always go back to the basics. I would imagine that I don't know anything. And I would go back to step one. Okay. What is a call? What is the put? What am I doing here? What is the strategy? How am I supposed to put it on? What are the rules and I gotta follow them step by step by step, not like, oh, you know, I'm gonna, I think this stock is gonna go down or or, you know, there's a Fibonacci retracement level, and there's some support here. So I don't have to adjust. No, forget all that stuff. I don't know any of that stuff. All I know, is the strategy and my trading plan. And that's it. And so that was, you know, you go back to the basics. And that will change your mentality of it, like, Okay, how do I manage the trade? How do I deal with this? Allen: Again, if there's other things involved, like stress, you know, if you're under a lot of stress, you're going to make the wrong decisions. If it has to work. If I have to make money this month, from my trades, you're going to make the wrong decisions. It's not going to work out in the long term. So there was a there was something another trick that one of our one of our students taught me. And now everybody can't do this. Most people can't do this. But what he does, is that he takes whatever money he makes trading this year. He will live off that next year. So when he's trading next year, he doesn't have to live off that money. Because he already has the money set aside from the last year. If that makes sense. Mark: You need a big bankroll sounds like a real estate agent. Allen: Yeah, you need Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. He was a politician. But, um, he has obviously, other people's money then. So I mean, he did have, you know, he had, he had a large account to do that. But eventually, that would be the best thing to do. You know, you have you already know your expenses are covered. Right? Now, you're only focusing on the plan and focusing on on just winning and just trading properly. It's not it takes the emotion out of so whatever you can do, whatever trick you can use to get that emotion out of it, that will make you a better trader. One, one more thing that that that that I've seen is happening to me is, the more you do it, the more of a habit it becomes. So if you do, you know, 50 trades, that's a lot better than five trades, but 500 trades is a lot better than 50 trips, if you do them properly with the right practice. So eventually, you get to the point where Oh, it's just another trade. It's not a big deal. It's just another trade. There's another one coming. So if I get if I hit my stop loss, yeah, it hurts. I hate it. But it's Just another trait, you know, I'm going to move on, move on to the next one, move on to the next one, because every month is a different ballgame. So you start over, you get to start over again and again and again. And so that is another trick that you would help in the long run. But again, you know, you have to, in before all of that happens, you have to have the confidence that this actually works. Mark: So what do I truly do believe in? Allen: Yes, you say that you say that. But then you also say that, you know, I can't do it. It's not working. It's not working. But you, you you've heard it that it works, you want to believe that it works. But I don't think you have that conviction yet that it works. And so the only way to get that conviction is to get it done for yourself. Right? And so it might be that you take a maybe you take a step back, and you go even simpler. And you say you don't want not the credit spreads, how about I do something like maybe a naked put, right, in a naked put, I'm going to make money if the stock doesn't go down. And it'll expire. And then I'll sell another one. And I'll sell another one. And I'm going to sell it far out of the money. So that I just when I just make that 20 bucks, or that $30 or whatever it is that small amount I'm just going to make month after month after month trade after trade I'm going to make and if the stock drops, okay, no fine, I can buy the stock, no big deal, I'll buy the stock. And then I'll sell covered calls on that stock. And so the covered call will expire, and I'll make something the covered call was expired, the next month will expire, and I'll make something so you build up that confidence that you know what, there is a way to do this. That's another option, you know, if you want to go that route, so you really got to figure out like, okay, you know, it's a, it's a personal thing, I wish I could just tell you that, hey, this is the one thing you need to do. But for everybody, it's different. And unless I spent a lot more time with you, unless I see all of your trades, unless I see you know, your emotion, how you handle the emotions, I won't be able to tell you. So that's kind of like in our in our program, what we do is we tell we give everybody a spreadsheet, and we say, hey, look, you have to fill out the spreadsheet, you have to put every single trade on the spreadsheet. And then they shared with me so that I can go in and I can look at them. You know, I could look at the tray. And I'll go in I'll see like, why did he do this trade? This doesn't make any sense to me. And I'm calling this Hey, John, why did you do this tray? Allen: And he goes, well, no, that's not gonna work. And he goes, okay, okay, fine, I'll do it. All right, done. You know, and if they're doing all the trades, right, then it's probably working. And most of the time, it's not working, like if they're not making money, then we can identify, Okay, what are what is not going right? You know, there was one of our current students, he was doing several trades, and he was still negative. So I looked at his spreadsheet, and I'm like, Okay, what's going on? What do I see, and his trade entries were great. You know, he was picking the right stocks, he was doing it properly. But whenever he lost, he would lose a lot more than he should have. He just wasn't getting out early on time. And so that was the biggest thing is like, you're not getting out. This is it, you know, your losses are too big. Doesn't matter how many trades, you win, your losses are still too big, you're still going to be negative. And so we worked on that. And then over time, he got better at getting out earlier and earlier and earlier. But he had, you know, he had somebody to look at that and to point it out, and to hold him to it. So that eventually he did it over and over and over again. And then by the end of the class, he was positive. He was like, Yeah, I fixed it. Again, that's all you need to do. That was he needed that one thing, everything else is simple. The training plan I could give you, you know, you could go do it on your own. But the discipline part of it, that's sometimes where we need help from somebody else. And so whether you know, it might be a wife might be somebody else, it might be a trading partner, somebody you work with, it might be a coach. So I think that might be one thing that you could implement. Mark: So just quickly, what what's the key points in a trading plan make like entry criteria, stop losses or that sort of stuff. Is there anything else that I can many points or rules should be in a trading plan? Like what I try and put a trading plan together, that is doable and simple to follow. To look at rather a complicated bloody list of all this crap, what would be a good trading plan? Allen: So, you want it to be simple and easy to implement. But you don't want it to be too simple, where it's just broad, like anything can happen. So, you know, I've seen people that have a trading plan that says, I'm going to do an iron condor on this stock 45 days to expiration, I'm going to sell a 10 Delta calls and sending out the puts. And that's it. That's my whole plan, and I'm just gonna sit and let it expire. That's a trading plan. It's very simple, right? You know, what you're going to do you know, what you're going to how you're going to do it, you know, what you're going to trade it on. And you know, when. And so now that pretty good plan doesn't work. So whoever's listening don't don't do that one. We've back tested that, and it didn't work. But there are, there are times there are several months where it does work, just because it has, you know, 80% probability, but over time, it doesn't. So that's the basics, you got to know what you want to trade, you need to know the strategy, you got to know what you want to trade. And then you have to know what constitutes a good setup. So when it comes to credit spreads, you mentioned credit spreads. So I like to do that, depending on the size of the of the trade, if it's a you know, maybe a $5000 $10,000 trade, then I'll go into I can go into a stock, or I'll go into an index ETFs are good, too. But they're their strikes are a little bit smaller. So you got to do a lot more contracts. But if I can go into a stock that has, you know, five point spreads, and I do 10 of them. That's a $5,000 trade. That'll work. Allen: So you can, what do you want to trade? And then what's the proper setup? So for me, again, I like to keep it simple. So if I see a stock that's trending, as moving up, or moving down, then I'm happy to trade it. Because I'm, I'm more of a trend follower, you know, so there's people that think, okay, if the stock is gonna go up, it's going up, it's going to keep going up until something big changes, there are other people that think the opposite. They're like, Oh, if it's going up, they just kind of come back down, because it's gonna do reversion to the mean. And sometimes that works. And sometimes it doesn't. So I don't really buy that I just like, hey, if it's going up, then it's telling me that it wants to go higher. So that's basically what I'm looking for. In a setup, I'm looking for the stock to tell me what it wants to do. So if I see a stock that's jumping up and down, no, I don't know what it's doing. I don't know what it's telling me, I can't understand the language, I'm not going to trade it. If it's going up, then I'm going to play it bullish. If it's going down, I'm going to play bearish. And sometimes, you know, it turns around and you get banked, but most of the time it's going to work out. So that's the kind of setup I'm looking for. And then over the years, you know, we've added other things to look at, you know, how do you make sure that all of your trades are not in the same sector? Right now, you know, right now, oil has been doing well. So all of the oil companies were doing great. But then they all turned around and went down all together. So if you have 10 trades on in different oil companies, that's not that's not diversification. That's the same trade. And so if they turn around, I'm going to turn on together. So that would be one way of putting the odds in your favor by having you know, only a small portion of your account in one sector. So you have to separate that. How do you diversify by time? You know, so not putting all your trades on on the same day. That's another way to do it. So you diversify by time. So there's so many different ways that you can do it, some of them might make sense to you some might not. And then, you know, we have other students that come in and say, Well, I do it, you know, I look for this also in my trade, like, Okay, if that's what you want to add to it, then add it. Don't subtract things that I've given you. But if you want to add to it, one student said that he likes to look at the weekly chart, I usually look at the daily chart, see how the stock is doing. He likes to look at the weekly chart as well. Allen: So I'm like, Okay, fine, you can add to it, you know, if it doesn't hit your criteria on the weekly chart, then just means you'll have less trades that qualify, but it's not gonna it's not going to put you into a trade that's going to hurt. So when you're basically you just have to figure out what you think is going to work. And then you have to test it. So back testing, and paper trading are really really, really helpful. Especially back tests, Mark: I find paper trading useless. To be honest. You lose interest very quickly. It's very easy to lose in that type of trading. Yeah, go ahead. I've done a little bit of paper trading and I've just found that I find okay, it's gone the wrong way. But I got it wrong. You just let it go. Because it doesn't mean anything. It has no significance, does it? Start with money trading? Yeah. You've got a connection heavenly with the with the live trading, because actually, it's not your money tied to it. Allen: It's not your money. It doesn't matter what the style of the trade does, you're only focusing on becoming a better trader, the goal is not to make more money, the goal is to become a better trader. Right? It's kind of like playing poker. It's like when you when people go to play poker, right? They'll professionals, they'll tell you that if they play their hand perfectly, and they lose, they're okay with it. Right? If they play, if they mess up, and they still win, they're still mad at themselves. Because I didn't play it right. I didn't play my cards, right? Even though I won, I don't care, because long run, it's going to hurt them. If they keep playing incorrectly in the long term, it's going to hurt them. So that's the goal to become the better trader. And the end results, the profits will take care of themselves. So paper trading is practice. That's all it is. Right? If you didn't need to take that on board. It's slow practice. Back testing, I prefer back testing way better than paper trading. Because you can go really quick. You know, if you if you come up with a plan, like okay, these are my criteria, I got these seven criteria on my trading plan. I'm going to enter when I see this, this and this. I'm going to exit when this happens. I'm going to adjust it this way If this happens, okay, I got that right and down, and that you can even just come up with your you can just guess No, I think this one's good. This one's good. That's my plan. Okay. You pick. You pick a stock, spy. Great, perfect. You go back to yours in time. January 1, put the trade on. How does it do? Oh, it made money. Awesome. Cool. February, how do you do made money? Great. March. Oh, we lost a lot of money. Doing it, huh? Okay. APR, how do you do? And then just do it month by month, I want back testing one month or one trade, you know, might take you five or 10 minutes. And so you can get years worth of practice in just a few days by back testing. And you'll find that Mark: It's something that I've never done is back testing. Is there a particular software that's adequate for that sort of stuff? I've never really looked down that line. I've heard about it. I've listened to it, but I've never actually really done it myself. Is there anyone ticular that would be worthy. Allen: The one that I use, the one that I use is called the option net explore. option that explore? Yeah, and I think I think they're based out of Great Britain. And so basically, it's, it's an options selling platform, you know, so it looks like your broker's platform, you put the trade on, and you go through it day by day by day. And it doesn't do it all for you, you actually have to look at it every single day. And if you want to make changes, you can make changes to it. That's what I like about it. There are other software's that you just put in the strategy, you press a button and it'll tell you "Oh, you made money or you lost money". That's not the point. We want to get better as a trader. Right. And so this one is like, Okay, I put the trade on, click a button. Oh, stock is down today. Do I need to do anything? No. Okay, next stage. Oh, stock is back up again. I don't have to do anything. Next stage. Oh, stock is down again. Oh, no, I'm at an adjustment point. Okay, what adjustment am I going to make? I'm going to do this adjust. Okay, cool. Let's see, did it work out? Go there forward today forward a day forward a day. Oh, expiration day stop. It worked. So it's, it's just, you know, there's no money, right? It's just about becoming a better trader. It's just about getting the practice doing it over and over and over again. So that I think would definitely help you as well. Mark: Okay, so one of the things obviously, we talked about discipline and the mental game, what's probably the best thing to follow, or to train your mental strength, like, as you said, like a paper trade or a live trade, you should be able to make that same decision, then in there without any emotional war. What's the best way to get to that level of trading where you whether you win or lose, it's just business as usual? Allen: Yeah, I've done to you have to divorce yourself from the outcome, whatever, whatever that takes for you. For me, in the beginning, it was getting my wife because I knew how I would have to answer to her. Mark: And scary Allen: I didn't have it. Exactly. It has to be scary. Because if you do it properly, she cannot get managed. Right? It's like, Hey, I followed the rules, babe. I did everything I was supposed to do. It still didn't work out and she'll be like, Okay, fine. That's no problem. But if you do not follow the rules, that's when she gets manage. And that's when it gets scary. So yes, you have to make it scary for you not to follow your rules, because a lot of us a lot of US traders, like, if we lose money, yeah, we don't we get mad about it, we're like, oh, man, I lost money, we feel bad about ourselves. But it doesn't hurt enough. You know, it's kind of like these people that say, Hey, I want to lose some weight. You know, so they make a goal, I'm gonna lose some weight, I'm gonna lose some weight, they tell everybody, and they do it for a few days, and then they give up. But then there's this website, that what, what this website, basically what it does is, you have to pick a, maybe a political party, or a person or some organization that you hate, you actually hate them. And you have to put up a lot of money and say, Okay, if I don't stick to my goal, this organization is going to get $5,000 or $10,000. So that makes you because it's now becomes a different level. It's not about just the money, or about doing the thing. It's like, okay, you know, let's say, for example, I don't want to give my money to anybody like the Save the whale Foundation, right? I don't want to, I don't want to give my money to the whales, I hate whales, I want them all to die. I don't want anybody to save the whales. So if I don't lose 10 pounds, they're gonna charge my credit card $5,000 and give it to the whales, and I hate whales. So I want to do whatever I have to do to lose that money to lose that weight. You know, because I don't want that well to be saved. You have to want something more than what you have. So there's, that's another psychological trick. No, in trading? We sometimes we get used to it, you know, it's like, oh, last? Oh, well, you know, we get used to it. And it just, we gotta it's just the mental part of it. Mark: Definitely, definitely, it's a huge part of it. Something I didn't I didn't realize, until much later down the track of trading, how big a part of mental side of it really is. Allen: I mean, if you find trying to avoid is difficult. Yeah. So if you find yourself having a problem with discipline, make it simpler, cut it down, make it as simple as possible. Find the trade that you know will like you know, the naked call or the naked put the covered call, these are very simple trades, they're really hard to mess it up. Right? On the naked put, if you get assigned the stock, hey, that's great. I just bought the stock much cheaper than it was before. And I'm going to own it. So you want to you want to do it on companies that you're going to own you want to own for a long period of time. That's the only way it really works. You can't you can't be selling naked puts on stocks that are just, you know, going crazy. That's the wrong way to do it. So you know, if you can simplify it, if you can find some way to have somebody else monitor you, and hold you to your fire, you know, hold your feet to the fire like, hey, you need to follow this, why aren't you doing this? Or, hey, it's not my money. Right? I'm doing it for somebody else. This is my kids inheritance, right? I cannot mess it up. So I have to follow the rules. One guy, when I was in, just after high school, I became an agent, a real estate agent. And as an agent, as a brand new agent, they tell you that you have to do a lot of things that you don't want to do. You have to talk to hundreds of people all the time, you have to cold call, people say Oh, Hi, are you doing? Do you want to sell your house? Oh, hi, do you wanna say, Well, you know, they have to keep doing things that you don't want to do. So it was like, okay, in the guy, the guy is like, hey, most of you guys are not going to do it. But if you want to be really, really, really motivated, what you need to do is go out and buy a fancy sports car. Sounds like what you're talking about, what do you do a fancy sports car? Because yeah, you need to go out and buy an expensive sports car so that you have that payment that you have to make at the end of the month. And so that is going to make you work your butt off because you have to make the payment. And as I go I mean, I understand what he was saying. I was like, No, I'm not doing that. But then eventually I didn't make it as a realtor. Maybe if I did do that, maybe I just didn't do the work that he told you to do. I just didn't do it. It wasn't the reward wasn't worth it for me. Mark: It was up to risk, I suppose. Yeah, Allen: I mean, you know, so with your training, you got to figure it out. Is it really worth it? Is the goal that hey, I want to quit my job. Is it I want my wife to quit her job. I want the kids to have this vacation or whatever it is. You have to burning. Yes, just eat you up every single day. You have to really really, really want it Mark: Explain to me how and it's burning me. Allen: Then the discipline has to stick. Because if you want it, but you're not disciplined, and your losses are too big, then it's it's not there yet. So I think, you know, if you don't have a trading plan, I'll just give you the training. You know, I mean, it's not that hard. It's not it's, it's the training plan helps. But it's up here. And it's the practice just doing it over and over and over again and having confidence in the plan. Because then if you have confidence, you'll stick to it. If you don't have confidence, you're going to change it, you're going to you're going to add things to it, you're not going to follow it, you're going to forget about it. Like with the paper trading, that's exactly what that is, you know, so it's not real. So, oh, well, I'm gonna ignore it. I'm gonna forget about I'm gonna do that.  Allen: That really resonated with me Allen's that that point, like, go back to the paper trading, treat it like it's somebody else's money, and then make it work. Don't look at it as just as being as a fake account, that doesn't matter. Allen: I mean, I wouldn't Yeah, I would prefer you do back testing, it'll be much faster. Mark: To look at that I'll get, I'll get onto that particular site that you've made. Yeah, Allen: That'll give you years of experience in just a few days. And so, to me,