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Vaad
संवाद # 250: India MUST've punished Pak by taking back Skardu, Haji Pir sailent | Bharat Karnad

Vaad

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2025 66:38


Bharat Karnad is Emeritus Professor for National Security Studies, Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi and Distinguished Fellow at the United Service Institution of India. His most recent book, Staggering Forward: Narendra Modi and India's Global Ambition was published by Penguin in September 2018. Previous books include Why India is Not a Great Power (Yet) (Oxford University Press, October 2015), Strategic Sellout: India-US Nuclear Deal (2009), India's Nuclear Policy (Praeger, 2008), Nuclear Weapons and Indian Security: The Realist Foundations of Strategy, now in its second edition (Macmillan, 2005, 2002), and Future Imperilled: India's Security in the 1990s and Beyond (Viking-Penguin, 1994).He was Member of the (First) National Security Advisory Board, Member of the Nuclear Doctrine-drafting Group, National Security Council, Government of India, and, formerly, Advisor on Defence Expenditure to the Finance Commission, India.Educated at the University of California (B.A., Santa Barbara; M.A., Los Angeles), he has been a Visiting Scholar at Princeton University, University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne, and Foreign Fellow at the Shanghai Institutes of International Studies and the Henry L. Stimson Centre, Washington, DC. He lectures at the top military training and discussion forums, including CORE (Combined Operational Review and Evaluation), DRDO Annual Directors' Conference, National Defence College, Higher Command Courses at the Army War College, College of Air Warfare, College of Naval Warfare, College of Defence Management, College of Military Engineering, and at Army Command and Corps level fora and equivalent in the other two Armed Services, and Defence Services Staff College, and also at the Indian Administrative Service Academy, Foreign Service Institute, and the National Police Academy.He was commissioned by the Headquarters, Integrated Defence Staff, Ministry of Defence, to conceptualize, conduct for several years, and lecture at the annual Strategic Nuclear Orientation Course for Brigadier-rank officers and equivalent from the three Armed Services, and conceived and conducted the first ever high-level inter-agency war game on the nuclear tripwire in the subcontinent (at the Army War College, 2003).

Vaad
संवाद # 203: India is not ready for war - problem with Modi, Indian Army, IAS, Agniveer

Vaad

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2024 69:08


Bharat Karnad is Emeritus Professor for National Security Studies, Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi and Distinguished Fellow at the United Service Institution of India. His most recent book, Staggering Forward: Narendra Modi and India's Global Ambition was published by Penguin in September 2018. Previous books include Why India is Not a Great Power (Yet) (Oxford University Press, October 2015), Strategic Sellout: India-US Nuclear Deal (2009), India's Nuclear Policy (Praeger, 2008), Nuclear Weapons and Indian Security: The Realist Foundations of Strategy, now in its second edition (Macmillan, 2005, 2002), and Future Imperilled: India's Security in the 1990s and Beyond (Viking-Penguin, 1994). He was Member of the (First) National Security Advisory Board, Member of the Nuclear Doctrine-drafting Group, National Security Council, Government of India, and, formerly, Advisor on Defence Expenditure to the Finance Commission, India. Educated at the University of California (B.A., Santa Barbara; M.A., Los Angeles), he has been a Visiting Scholar at Princeton University, University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne, and Foreign Fellow at the Shanghai Institutes of International Studies and the Henry L. Stimson Centre, Washington, DC. He lectures at the top military training and discussion forums, including CORE (Combined Operational Review and Evaluation), DRDO Annual Directors' Conference, National Defence College, Higher Command Courses at the Army War College, College of Air Warfare, College of Naval Warfare, College of Defence Management, College of Military Engineering, and at Army Command and Corps level fora and equivalent in the other two Armed Services, and Defence Services Staff College, and also at the Indian Administrative Service Academy, Foreign Service Institute, and the National Police Academy. He was commissioned by the Headquarters, Integrated Defence Staff, Ministry of Defence, to conceptualize, conduct for several years, and lecture at the annual Strategic Nuclear Orientation Course for Brigadier-rank officers and equivalent from the three Armed Services, and conceived and conducted the first ever high-level inter-agency war game on the nuclear tripwire in the subcontinent (at the Army War College, 2003).

Vaad
संवाद # 128: How Narendra Modi should deal with Canada & America | Bharat Karnad

Vaad

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2023 100:34


Bharat Karnad is Emeritus Professor for National Security Studies, Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi and Distinguished Fellow at the United Service Institution of India. His most recent book, Staggering Forward: Narendra Modi and India's Global Ambition was published by Penguin in September 2018. Previous books include Why India is Not a Great Power (Yet) (Oxford University Press, October 2015), Strategic Sellout: India-US Nuclear Deal (2009), India's Nuclear Policy (Praeger, 2008), Nuclear Weapons and Indian Security: The Realist Foundations of Strategy, now in its second edition (Macmillan, 2005, 2002), and Future Imperilled: India's Security in the 1990s and Beyond (Viking-Penguin, 1994). He was Member of the (First) National Security Advisory Board, Member of the Nuclear Doctrine-drafting Group, National Security Council, Government of India, and, formerly, Advisor on Defence Expenditure to the Finance Commission, India. Educated at the University of California (B.A., Santa Barbara; M.A., Los Angeles), he has been a Visiting Scholar at Princeton University, University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne, and Foreign Fellow at the Shanghai Institutes of International Studies and the Henry L. Stimson Centre, Washington, DC. He lectures at the top military training and discussion forums, including CORE (Combined Operational Review and Evaluation), DRDO Annual Directors' Conference, National Defence College, Higher Command Courses at the Army War College, College of Air Warfare, College of Naval Warfare, College of Defence Management, College of Military Engineering, and at Army Command and Corps level fora and equivalent in the other two Armed Services, and Defence Services Staff College, and also at the Indian Administrative Service Academy, Foreign Service Institute, and the National Police Academy. He was commissioned by the Headquarters, Integrated Defence Staff, Ministry of Defence, to conceptualize, conduct for several years, and lecture at the annual Strategic Nuclear Orientation Course for Brigadier-rank officers and equivalent from the three Armed Services, and conceived and conducted the first ever high-level inter-agency war game on the nuclear tripwire in the subcontinent (at the Army War College, 2003).

Tech Nest: The Real Estate and Tech Show
Construction Tech Transformation and Trends with Ardalan Khosrowpour, CEO at OnSiteIQ

Tech Nest: The Real Estate and Tech Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2023 7:18


Dr. Ardalan Khosrowpour is a Co-Founder and serves as Chief Executive Officer & Board Member at OnSiteIQ. He received his Ph.D. in Civil Engineering from Virginia Tech and MS from the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne. After completing his Ph.D., he was appointed as a Runway postdoctoral fellow at Cornell Tech where OnSiteIQ was born. His unique expertise in construction management and machine learning have been the principal driving forces behind OnSiteIQ's visual documentation and collaboration platform.OnsiteIQ is the definitive verification layer for real estate construction. Since 2017, we've worked with real estate owners, developers, and investors to deliver the construction intelligence they need to make business-critical decisions about their portfolios.OnsiteIQ delivers 360º imagery of active builds across your real estate portfolio, offering a perfect record of progress to date, along with real-time project analysis and actionable insight. Connect with Ardalan on LinkedIn Check out OnSiteIQ

POMEPS Conversations
Media of the Masses and Turkey/Syria Earthquake Relief (S. 12 Ep. 18)

POMEPS Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2023 71:12


Andrew Simon joins Marc Lynch on this week's podcast to discuss his new book, Media of the Masses: Cassette Culture in Modern Egypt. The book investigates the social life of an everyday technology—the cassette tape—to offer a multisensory history of modern Egypt. Enabling an unprecedented number of people to participate in the creation of culture and circulation of content, cassette players and tapes soon informed broader cultural, political, and economic developments and defined "modern" Egyptian households. Also on this week's podcast are Hasret Dikici Bilgin of Istanbul Bilgi University, Lisel Hintz of Johns Hopkins University, Rana Khoury of the University of Illinois, at Urbana-Champagne, and Reva Dhingra of Harvard University and Brookings Institution, to discuss Turkey/Syria Earthquake relief.

ever.ag
From the Furrow - January 4, 2023 - Scott Irwin

ever.ag

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2023 23:26


In our weekly series From the Furrow, host Britt O'Connell and fellow grain geeks shed light on current market conditions and how grain producers can take action to manage their risk.This week, Britt is joined by Scott Irwin, ag economist and Laurence J. Norton Chair of Agricultural Marketing at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne. What factors will impact grain trading this year? How should we be thinking about the newest EPA biofuel proposals? Britt and Scott discuss those topics and a whole lot more.To learn more about Scott's work, visit https://scotthirwin.com/ or follow Scott on Twitter @ScottIrwinUI.Questions or comments? Contact Britt at blo@ever.ag or give us a call at (312) 492-4200.Disclaimer: TRADING FUTURES AND OPTIONS ON FUTURES INVOLVES SIGNIFICANT RISK OF LOSS AND MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR EVERYONE. THEREFORE, CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER SUCH TRADING IS SUITABLE FOR YOU IN LIGHT OF YOUR FINANCIAL CONDITION. PAST RESULTS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS. THE INFORMATION AND COMMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROVIDED BY EVER.AG AS GENERAL COMMENTARY OF MARKET CONDITIONS. THIS INFORMATION SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS TRADING ADVICE OR RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH YOUR EVER.AG ADVISOR. THIS IS A MATTER OF SOLICITATION.©2022 Ever.Ag, Confidential and Proprietary.--The following music was used for this media project:Music: Funky Intro 29 by TaigaSoundProdFree download: https://filmmusic.io/song/9520-funky-intro-29License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://linktr.ee/taigasoundprod

Roots to STEM Podcast
S2E4: Shane Campbell-Staton, PhD, Assistant Professor, Princeton University

Roots to STEM Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 46:59


Dr. Shane Campbell-Staton is an Assistant Professor in the Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Department at Princeton University. Shane's research looks at how human actions contribute to contemporary evolution of animals, including elephants, wolves, alligators, and anoles. He received his bachelor's degree from the University of Rochester, his PhD from Harvard University, and did his post-doctoral training at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne and the University of Montana. Shane got his first faculty position at UCLA, and recently moved to a new faculty position at Princeton. Some of the things we talk about in this episode: how science and nature documentaries and TV shows fostered Shane's interest in science as a kid (which has come full circle, as Shane is now involved in making science and nature TV shows and documentaries himself) why it's important to fund basic science to help find solutions to problems in unexpected places the responsibility of scientists to communicate science to the public the value of storytelling in science why feeling like we don't know what we're doing can actually be a good sign how tardigrades could make good superheroes Get in touch with Shane and check out the research in his lab: Shane's Twitter Campbell-Staton Lab Website Biology of Superheroes Podcast Biology of Superheroes Twitter Check out Shane's latest paper on the evolution of tusklessness in elephants (get in touch if you want a PDF): Ivory poaching and the rapid evolution of tusklessness in African elephants (Science 2021) Get in touch with Steph: Twitter Get in touch with the podcast: Twitter Facebook Email: rootstostempodcast@gmail.com Website: rootstostempodcast.com

Human Resource Development Masterclass
Training & Development

Human Resource Development Masterclass

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 83:54


In this fourth episode of HRD Masterclass, guests Dr. Ronald L. Jacobs (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne), Dr. Melika Shirmohammadi (University of Houston), and Dr. Seung Won Yoon (Texas A&M University-Commerce) discuss Training and Development and its role within Human Resource Development, including:What is meant by the term "Training and Development".The changing nature of work and implications for Training and Development.How remote working affects Training and Development.The role played by in-person training, and how that is changing.The changing role of HRD professionals in the workplace.How Training and Development will continue to evolve in the coming years.In the first part of the episode, Ron, Melika, and Seung Won meet one-to-one with host, Darren Short. In the second part, the three guests are together to discuss their shared interest in Training and Development. For full details on the HRD Masterclass series, visit hrdmasterclass.com. For more information on the Academy of Human Resource Development, visit ahrd.org - by being a member of AHRD, you can access bonus materials not included in this episode.This episode is sponsored by SiTUATE, a new platform that is the digital version of structured on-the-job training. Find out more at situate-training.com/ 

Tangle
Ilana Redstone discusses higher education and politics

Tangle

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2021 26:32


On today's podcast, we sit down with Ilana Redstone. She is a professor of sociology at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne and the co-author of Unassailable Ideas: How Unwritten Rules and Social Media Shape Discourse in American Higher Education. She also serves as a faculty fellow at Heterodox Academy, a non-profit advocacy group working to counteract a lack of viewpoint diversity on college campuses. In our conversation, we talk about whether there is a free speech problem on college campuses, how to address a lack of political diversity, and Redstone's thoughts on the Critical Race Theory debate. If you enjoy the discussion, please rate us five stars wherever you rate podcasts. You can subscribe to Tangle here. And you can read more about Heterodox Academy here. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tanglenews/support

SERVED: Military Women's Stories
U.S. Army National Guard Veteran Dr. Jeni Hunniecutt

SERVED: Military Women's Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2021 57:48


Dr. Jeni Hunniecutt shares her journey as a cheerleader in Virginia, to enlisting in the Army National Guard, to earning her PhD in Communication Studies from the University of Denver in Colorado. Dr. Hunniecutt, an advocate for veteran identity, is currently the assistant director of research engagement and educational programming at the Chez Veterans Center, and research assistant professor in the Department of Kinesiology and Community Health in the College of Applied Health Sciences, both at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne. 

POMEPS Conversations
Trust & the Islamic Advantage, Attitudes Towards Migrants, & On-Side Fighting (S. 10, Ep. 6)

POMEPS Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2021 53:12


Avital Livny of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne talks about her latest book, Trust and the Islamic Advantage: Religious-Based Movements in Turkey and the Muslim World, with Marc Lynch on this week's podcast.  The book shows that the Islamic advantage is rooted in feelings of trust among individuals with a shared, religious group-identity, and presents a new argument for conceptualizing religion as both a personal belief system and collective identity. (Starts at 27:01). Ala' Alrababa'h discusses the article, Attitudes Toward Migrants in a Highly Impacted Economy: Evidence From the Syrian Refugee Crisis in Jordan (co-authored by Andrea Dillon, Scott Williamson, Jens Hainmueller, Dominik Hangartner, Jeremy M. Weinstein) published in Comparative Political Studies. (Starts at 0:58). Jonah Schulhofer-Wohl of Leiden University talks about his article, On-Side fighting in civil war: The logic of mortal alignment in Syria, published in the Rationality and Society journal. (Starts at 12:58). Music for this season's podcast was created by Feras Arrabi. You can find more of his work on his Facebook and Instagram page.

CrowdScience
Am I related to a virus?

CrowdScience

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2020 28:50


All living things are related to each other, from elephants to algae, e-coli to humans like us. Within our cells we hold genetic information in the form of DNA or RNA. But despite viruses sharing these molecules, many scientists don't consider them to be 'life'. Viruses cannot reproduce on their own, but some can insert their DNA into a host to pass genes sideways through the branching tree of life. As a result, viruses’ relationship with life is.... complex. Two of our listeners had viruses on the mind, so they sent in the same question to CrowdScience. Senan from Singapore and Melvin from South Africa want to know how viruses began to see if this can tell us whether they shared a common ancestor with humans. To dig into this complexity Marnie Chesterton speaks with an expert on Koala genetics – Dr Rachael Tarlinton. Koalas are in the middle of tackling a retroviruses, a type of virus that plants DNA into our cells as a reproduction strategy. Her research could reveal why humans life has so much viral DNA within our genomes. Marnie speaks with a computational biologist Professor Gustavo Caetano-Anolles, who has found a new way to trace the family tree for billions of years using proteins common to all life on earth, and speaks with Professor Chantal Abergel who paints a picture of how viruses went from being the losers of evolution, to being highly successful parasites of cells. If you have a question for CrowdScience, please email: crowdscience@bbc.co.uk Produced by Rory Galloway Presented by Marnie Chesterton Contributors: Dr Chelsey Spriggs - Postdoctoral fellow at the University of Michigan in the USA Dr Rachael Tarlinton - Associate Professor at the University of Nottingham in the UK Professor Gustavo Caetano-Anolles - The University of Illinois in Urbana Champagne, USA Professor Chantal Abergel - Aix Marseille Université in France Graeme Dick - Head Keeper, Longleat Zoo and Safari Park, UK

All Ears at Child's Voice: A Hearing Loss Podcast
15. A Mother-Daughter Spotlight

All Ears at Child's Voice: A Hearing Loss Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2019 61:57


On episode 15 of All Ears at Child’s Voice: A Hearing Loss Podcast, Tatum and Wendy interview Julie and her daughter, Clara, about their experience with Clara’s hearing loss. Clara uses bilateral cochlear implants and is a graduate of Child’s Voice. She recently graduated from high school and, at the time of the recording, was preparing for her upcoming transition to college as a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne. Clara talks about graduating from high school and preparing for her upcoming transition to college. Julie shares her perspective as a parent of a child with hearing loss. Special thanks to Cochlear Americas for helping to coordinate this episode by putting the podcast in touch with Julie and Clara. - On the episode, Clara and Julie share about their experience with the manufacturing company of Clara's cochlear implants, Cochlear Americas. All Ears at Child's Voice does not promote any specific product mentioned on the show. If you have questions about selecting a manufacturer when considering a cochlear implant, please talk with your team and especially your audiologist. Information on all three cochlear implant manufacturers (Cochlear, MED-EL, and Advanced Bionics) can be found at their websites, which are listed in the show notes. - Find us @childs_voice, @tatumfritzSLP, @wendydetersSLP, @ms_elise_sunshine. Email us at podcast@childsvoice.org. Follow along with the transcript at childsvoice.org/podcast. - [Child's Voice is a listening and spoken language program for children with hearing loss. Views expressed on the show, both by the guests and by the hosts, may not necessarily represent the views of Child's Voice.]

Her Stem Story
Episode 63: Self Care Guru, Neuroscientist & Podcaster

Her Stem Story

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2019 43:37


Our guest today is "The Guru of Grad Self Care" on Instagram and a Neuroscientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne. For the next 2 weeks, the show will be hosted by a very special guest, Katherine Hatcher, she is a STEM Advocacy Institute fellow and is launching her very own podcast in August. I had the honor of mentoring Katherine in podcasting and now of interviewing her. Listen on to learn about her STEM Story, In this episode we discuss: 1) Katherine's research in Circadian Rhythm. 2) How she started her Grad Self Care IG Account? 3) How she organically grow her IG account in a short time? 4) What will she be talking about in her takeover in the next 2 weeks? 5) Finally, what her upcoming podcast is all about?   Links: www.instagram.com/gradselfcare www.instagram.com/endocrinepod Support us: www.herstemstory.com/supportus    

RealTalk MS
Episode 94: Shady Stem Cell Clinics And Their Shady "Clinical Trials" & An MS Rehab Study with Dr. Laura Rice

RealTalk MS

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2019 28:51


This week, we're talking about shady stem cell clinics and their shady clinical trials. We'll tell you about a study that makes a connection between stress-related disorders and autoimmune disease, and a research team that may have identified the possible genetic causes of MS.   My guest is Dr. Laura Rice, an expert in rehabilitation science and technology at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne. Dr. Rice's focus is on maximizing the quality of life and community participation among wheelchair users. We're talking with Dr. Rice about her new study, designed to prevent falls among wheelchair users. We'll also tell you about the international team of scientists who succeeded in mapping human microglia, and were surprised by what they found. We'll get you up to speed on the Credit for Caring Act, a bipartisan bill that's been designed to give family caregivers a financial boost. And we'll tell you where to register for the MS Association of America's The Many Faces of MS: Exploring Diversity & Differences webinar, being hosted by Dr. Mitzi Joi Williams. We have a lot to talk about. Are you ready for RealTalk MS??! ___________   Shady Stem Cell Clinics & Their Shady "Clinical Trials"  1:01 Seeing MS From the Inside Out documentary Wins an Award  6:42 Do Stress-Related Disorders Cause Autoimmune Disease?   8:27 A Study Identifies Possible Genetic Causes of MS  11:01 Scientists Successfully Map Microglia & See Differences in People Living with MS  13:00 The Bipartisan Credit for Caring Act Introduced in Both Houses of Congress  15:28 The Many Faces of MS: Exploring Diversity & Differences  17:20 My Interview with Dr. Laura Rice  19:35 Join the RealTalk MS Conversation  27:10 ___________ ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION I've always thought about the RealTalk MS podcast as a conversation. And this is your opportunity to join the conversation by sharing your feedback, questions, and suggestions for topics that we can discuss in future podcast episodes. Please shoot me an email or call the RealTalk MS Listener Hotline and share your thoughts! Email: jon@realtalkms.comPhone: (310) 526-2283 ___________ LINKS If your podcast app doesn't allow you to click on these links, you'll find them in the show notes in the RealTalk MS app or at www.RealTalkMS.com ClinicalTrials.gov STUDY: Association of Stress-Related Disorders With Subsequent Autoimmune Disease STUDY: Exome Sequencing in Multiple Sclerosis Families Identifies 12 Candidate Genes and Nominates Biological Pathways for the Genesis of Disease STUDY: Spacial and Temporal Heterogeneity of Mouse and Human Microglia at Single-Cell Resolution The Credit for Caring Act REGISTER: The Many Faces of MS: Exploring Diversity and Differences Email Dr. Laura Rice Download the RealTalk MS App for iOS Download the RealTalk MS App for Android Give RealTalk MS a Rating & Review  ___________ Follow RealTalk MS on Twitter, @RealTalkMS_jon, and subscribe to our newsletter at our website, RealTalkMS.com. RealTalk MS Episode 94 Hosted By: Jon Strum Guest: Dr. Laura Rice Tags: MS, MultipleSclerosis, MSResearch, Stemcells, caregiving,  RealTalkMS

Live at America's Town Hall
Campus Free Speech and Academic Freedom

Live at America's Town Hall

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2019 90:44


The National Constitution Center hosted a symposium on campus free speech and academic freedom on March 18, and this episode shares two panels from that event. On the first panel—Amy Wax of The University of Pennsylvania  Law School, Anita Bernstein of Brooklyn Law School, and Cary Nelson of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne share what academic freedom means to them and discuss their differing views on how some on-campus controversies should be handled. Next, university administrators have the chance to respond, and detail how they have handled such controversies. The second panel features Dean Ted Ruger of Penn Law, President Tom Sullivan of the University of Vermont, President Ken Gormley of Duquesne University, and President Julie Wollman of Widener University. Note: The second panel includes a discussion of the University of Chicago principles—a set of guiding principles that some colleges and universities have adopted in an effort to show their commitment to free speech and expression—and you can read them here. This coming May, be sure to tune in to our special series on the First Amendment—in partnership with Duquesne University—on Live at America’s Town Hall. The series features audio of the 2018 National Conference on the First Amendment held at Duquesne University, which the NCC helped coordinate. We’ll be sharing conversations with leading First Amendment scholars, activists, journalists and more—from First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams and U.S. Solicitor General Noel Francisco, to New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet, and more.   Questions or comments about the podcast? Email us at podcast@constitutioncenter.org.

New Books in Science
Albert Müller, ed., “The Beginning of Heaven and Earth Has No Name: Seven Days With Second-Order Cybernetics” (Fordham UP, 2014)

New Books in Science

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2018 49:02


Between his retirement from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne in 1975 and his death in 2002, many cyberneticians made the pilgrimage to Pescadero, California to unravel the oft-elusive subtleties of second-order cybernetics with the master himself, Heinz von Foerster.  Fortunately, for all of those not blessed to have had... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Books Network
Albert Müller, ed., “The Beginning of Heaven and Earth Has No Name: Seven Days With Second-Order Cybernetics” (Fordham UP, 2014)

New Books Network

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2018 49:02


Between his retirement from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne in 1975 and his death in 2002, many cyberneticians made the pilgrimage to Pescadero, California to unravel the oft-elusive subtleties of second-order cybernetics with the master himself, Heinz von Foerster.  Fortunately, for all of those not blessed to have had an audience with the brilliant, playful, and generous man credited with founding the field itself, fellow Viennese colleagues Albert and Karl Müller (no relation besides their mutual devotion to cybernetics as a whole) recorded their seven-day intellectual dance with von Foerster, tailored it into an elegant structure loosely paralleling the Old Testament creation story, and brought it to the reading public as The Beginning of Heaven and Earth Has No Name: Seven Days With Second-Order Cybernetics, originally published in German in 2002 and, finally, out in English translation from Fordham University Press in 2014.  For those intrigued yet occasionally stymied by the complex mathematics and, at times, eccentric and riddle laden prose style of von Foester’s academic papers, the book is nothing less than a revelation as it clarifies and expands such essential Foersterian notions as the eigen-behaviour, the distinction between trivial and non-trivial machines, and a host of other insights regarding recursivity, genetic epistemology, and more allowing the reader to return to the primary texts ideally primed to fully absorb their profundity, inventiveness and intellectual audacity.  There could be no more eminently qualified curator of von Foerster’s thought than co-editor and University of Vienna historian, Albert Müller who afforded me the privilege of discussing the book with him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Books in Systems and Cybernetics
Albert Müller, ed., “The Beginning of Heaven and Earth Has No Name: Seven Days With Second-Order Cybernetics” (Fordham UP, 2014)

New Books in Systems and Cybernetics

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2018 49:02


Between his retirement from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne in 1975 and his death in 2002, many cyberneticians made the pilgrimage to Pescadero, California to unravel the oft-elusive subtleties of second-order cybernetics with the master himself, Heinz von Foerster.  Fortunately, for all of those not blessed to have had... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/systems-and-cybernetics

Midwest Socialist
Higher Education and Power

Midwest Socialist

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2018 95:50


This morning, the graduate employees at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne went on strike. We spoke to campus organizers at UIUC and UChicago, and the Loyola YDSA co-chair, about educational labor.

Says You! - A Quiz Show for Lovers of Words, Culture, and History
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champagne - Lincoln Hall

Says You! - A Quiz Show for Lovers of Words, Culture, and History

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2017 50:54


University of Illinois in Urbana-Champagne, Lincoln Hall - home of WILL-AM   Host; Barry Nolan   Guests:  Brian Moline, Host of Morning Edition WILL-AM Illinois Dr. May Berenbaum, Entymologist, Recipient of National Medal for Biological Sciences   Stereo Left   Caroline Faye Fox   Brian Moline   Gregg Porter – KUOW Weekend Host, from Seattle   Stereo Right   Tony Kahn   Dr. May Berenbaum – University of Illinois   Murray Horwitz     Round 1: Says You! Sampler - Illinois   Round 2 – Bluff: anchoret   Round 3: Inner Scientist   Round 4 – Bluff: greeble   Round 5: Paired authors      

National Center for Women & Information Technology

Audio File:  Download MP3Transcript: An Interview with Judy Estrin President and CEO, Packet Design, LLC Date: September 13, 2007 NCWIT Interview with Judy Estrin BIO: Judy Estrin, CEO, JLABS, LLC. and author, Closing the Innovation Gap is a networking technology pioneer and Silicon Valley leader. Since 1981, she has co-founded eight technology companies and served as CTO of Cisco Systems. As CEO of JLABS, LLC, she is an advisor and speaker in the areas of entrepreneurship, leadership and innovation. In May 2000 she co-founded Packet Design, LLC, a network technology company. Prior to co-founding Packet Design, LLC, Estrin was Chief Technology Officer for Cisco Systems. Beginning in 1981 Estrin co-founded three other successful technology companies with Bill Carrico. Bridge Communications, founded in 1981, was a vendor of internetwork routers and bridges that went public in 1985 and merged with 3Com Corp. in 1987; Estrin served as Engineering Vice President and Executive Vice President of Bridge, and later ran the Bridge Communications Division at 3Com. Network Computing Devices, a maker of X terminals and PC-UNIX integration software, was founded in 1988 and went public in 1992; Estrin started with NCD as Executive Vice President and became CEO in 1993. Estrin served as CEO of Precept Software from the company's 1995 founding as a maker of streaming video software until Cisco Systems acquired Precept in 1998, and she became Cisco's Chief Technology Officer until April 2000. Estrin has been named three times to Fortune Magazine's list of the 50 most powerful women in American business. She sits on the boards of directors of The Walt Disney Company and The Federal Express Corporation as well as two private company boards -- Packet Design, Inc. and Arch Rock. She also sits on the advisory councils of Stanford's School of Engineering and Stanford's Bio-X initiative. She holds a B.S. degree in math and computer science from UCLA, and an M.S. in electrical engineering from Stanford University. Lucy Sanders: Hi, this is Lucy Sanders, the CEO of the National Center for Women and Information Technology, or NCWIT. Today we have another great interview with a fabulous woman entrepreneur. And with me is Larry Nelson from w3w3.com. Hi, Larry. Larry Nelson: Hello, I'm so excited to be here. Lucy: Why don't you tell us a little bit about w3w3.com, since the podcast series will be also syndicated on your site? Larry: Yes, and we've started already, and it's really popular so far. At w3w3.com, have it all set it where they can download it as a podcast, they can listen to it on their computer, and it's having great reception. Lucy: That's great! Also here is Lee Kennedy who is an NCWIT director and also, in an exciting new twist of events, is starting yet another new company called Tricallex. Welcome, Lee. Lee Kennedy: Thanks, I'm so glad to be here. Lucy: Well, and today we're interviewing somebody who is just somebody I'm thrilled to talk to because she loves data networking. Now you guys don't get on my case about this. I'm sure that she loves lots of other things, but I know she gets network congestion, and TCIP, and all those great packet protocols. Judy Estrin, welcome. Judy Estrin: It's nice to be here. Lucy: Judy is the co‑founder and chairman of Packets Design. And she sits on the board of the Walt Disney Company and also Federal Express. So, Judy, you know you certainly have done a lot in the area of networking, and not just networking but route analytics and all the different algorithms. Why don't you tell us a little bit about Packet Design first, and then we'll get into the interview? Judy: OK, Packet Design has actually evolved over the last five years. It started out in 2000 as a company that we started to target what we called medium term innovation. So we didn't want to just focus on one product area. We started a number of projects, and the idea was to either license technology or spin out companies. Now, we all know what happened in 2001 and 2002 in the networking market; actually and in the technology market, in general. So it was an interesting time to start a company like that. But we did spinout three companies: Verneer Network, Packet Design, Inc., and Precision IO. A couple of years ago, we changed the business model and stopped doing new projects and just focused our time on the spinouts that existed. So Packet Design, itself, is really somewhat of a shell company at this point. Packet Design, Inc., which I'm chairman of the board of (but not CEO), is in the route analytics business. Verneer is in the network security business. And Precision IO, unfortunately, ended up getting shut down because of, I would say, running out of patience in the eccentric community. Lucy: When you mention route analytics, tell us a little bit about what that entails. Judy: The products that Packet Design, Inc., which is really the spin off that most of the people from Packet Design, LLC went to, the products they provide, probably the easiest way to describe it, is allow you to get more information about an IP network, so that you can manage, diagnose, and plan more effectively. And it gives you information about the routing itself, which is why it is called route analytics, as well as the products that give you information about the traffic that goes on the network and correlates that traffic with the routing. And previously there'd not been products that understood the routing the way this product did. Lucy: Well, and that maybe gets us to our first question around technology because, certainly, I know enough about networking protocols to know that route analytics is an extremely difficult technology. How did you first get into technology? And as you look out into the future, what technologies do you think are going to be especially important? Judy: So, this is kind of a funny answer to have to how did I first get into technology, I would say I was born into it. And today it's common to have second‑generation computer scientists. But when I was growing up, it was not so common. But my father worked with Flid Noiman at the Institute for Advanced Studies, and they started the Computer Science Department at UCLA. My mother is also a Ph.D. in electrical engineering, and was one of the very early biomedical engineers. So I grew up in an environment filled with science and technology. I had a very strong aptitude toward math. And I used to joke that if computers hadn't been invented, I might have ended up being a statistician. So I'm very lucky that computers were invented. When I think of myself and what I really like to do, it's solving problems. And if you think of about technology and computer science, specifically, it really is about solving problems. And I, very early in my career, moved from being a dedicated engineer into management. And I was, in essence, an individual contributor for probably a couple of years before I started managing. And what I found is the same problem solving techniques that I learned in computer science worked very well in the world of solving overall problems, whether it was organizational or people or technological. So I was exposed to technology very early, and I loved it. When you ask me what technologies I think are cool today, as I look forward, some of the most interesting technologies I think are the ones that are, what I would call, interdisciplinary, essentially applying information technology to different things. So whether it's to the consumer market, when you look at entertainment or social networking or any of the other problems that technology is solving in that arena. The increase of mobility, so looking at the problems of trying to take everything we've done that runs so well on personal computers and make that information available on mobile devices. One of the areas that I'm very interested in, my sister happens to run this center at UCLA in this area, and I'm on a board of a startup, is something called sensor‑nets, which is the area of bringing the physical world, or being able to monitor the physical world, and bring information about the physical world into your information systems. Because you now can combine processors, sensors, and wireless together in a very small device that can be sprinkled around, and allow you to get information about the physical world that might be used for environmental needs, or energy, in data centers, in monitoring the elderly at home. There's a whole range of applications. So I think that is another interesting application. I think the application of information technology to healthcare and education will be very important areas, because both of those are areas we have big problems in. And I believe technology can really help solve them. And then last, it's a broad area, but anything having to do with what people call clean techs. So the whole area of energy efficiency as well as new forms of energy I think are going to be very interesting. And technology, information technology will play a role in solving those problems. Lee: Well, the area of sensors is also particularly interesting to me and us at NCWIT. Just a plug for a future NCWIT summit we're going to have at the University of Illinois, Urbana Champagne will be exactly, Judy, what you were just talking about. And we're talking about the future of computing and how it's driven from multiple disciplines. Judy: Great. Lucy: And Judy you may have already answered our next question when you talked about your love to solve problems. But the question is: why are you an entrepreneur? And what is it about it that makes you tick? Judy: You know it's interesting, a lot of entrepreneurs will tell you stories about how when they were kids they had a lemonade stand or they started a business, and I don't have any stories like that. When I was growing up, I don't think I ever imagined that I would become an entrepreneur. But when I graduated with my master's from Stanford, I had offers from a number of different technology companies. I was interviewing at Intel, at HP, Xerox, the classic large companies. But I also interviewed at a very small company with 50 people called XLog, which was a spinout of Intel. And I decided to go there, because a friend of my parents told me that the smartest people that he knew worked at that company. So I started off my career at a small company. And just became very passionate about what you could do in small groups. And how quickly we were able to move. And how innovative the environment was. And I realized, also, how much I enjoyed building my own culture, developing groups, developing an organization. So out of that XLog experience, I think, was probably what made me start to think that, you know, maybe I'd like to start something on my own. And the other thing is, because I went to a small company, I was able to move into management much more quickly than I think if I'd gone to a larger, more hierarchical company. And I found I loved managing and so the non‑technical side. I always stayed deep in the technology. But the business side of entrepreneurship, I've found that I really enjoyed. One benefit of being an entrepreneur: when you're building a company, you get a choice to stay involved in the technology and do the higher level executive functions. And you have a very broad scope. And I found that that was something that interested me. When you end up at a large company, you end up having to make a decision of either being at the top, and being very far away from the technology, or staying technical, and not being able to necessarily exercise the management side as much. So I think what about entrepreneurship makes me tick. It's a passion for an idea. Every company we started was because we were passionate about an idea and about solving a problem in the marketplace. Most of the companies were pretty ahead of their time. So we tended to look forward a lot in what we were doing. And I keep saying we. The companies that I was involved in, I co‑founded with my ex‑husband Bill Carrico. So that's the "we" that I'm saying there. Larry: Judy, you know I thought it's interesting that it was obvious since the very beginning of time for you, IT was going to be part of your life. But it wasn't until after you got your master's degree that you really started thinking about the possibility of being an entrepreneur. And by the way, this is Lucy's favorite question, having to do with: Who were the people in your life that shepherded you through this career path? And who were your mentors? Judy: Early on, as I was growing up, my parents were really my role models. And that is what led me toward science and to become a computer scientist. But both of them are academics. And so I was not at all exposed early on to the business world. And it really was at XLog that I first became exposed to the business world. And I would say my first mentor was Bill, my ex‑husband, because he came to XLog and was the one who promoted me into a management position. So I would say, if I had to pick an early mentor, it was Bill. But the reason I don't like the question is: I think as I have gone through my career, there are so many people that have influenced me. I watched everybody, whether it's people who have worked for me who have taught me things. I have people I have worked for. I sit on the boards of directors of some incredible companies with just terrific leaders. And watching them and how they lead influenced me. Watching people who I don't like the way they lead at times influences me, saying I don't want to be like that. So I would say that I really can't identify a small set, or a set of role models. I think I've pretty much built my career and have always taken a strategy of just learning from everyone around me. Again, from those people who have worked for me and those people I have worked for. Larry: I think you answered that question quite well. Lucy: Right. Judy: You know, I'm asked these days... People often ask will I mentor, get together and ask for help. And one of the things I like to tell people is that when you're looking around, and when you're looking to someone who has experience, and hearing about hearing about their experiences, don't listen to what they say and just say, "OK, I have to do it that way." What you need to do is listen to other people's experiences and then filter. And decide which of those things feel right for you. Because in the end, and I think this is probably the most important thing about mentoring and role models, one is most successful when you're being yourself and developing your own capabilities. That doesn't mean you don't learn along the way. But when you try to act like somebody else, and if it's not natural to your own personality and skills, it always backfires. Lucy: Well, and I think that's really well said as well. We certainly do learn from everybody around us. And I think you had a brilliant answer for that. The next question we have for you is maybe on the other end of your experiences, in terms of the tough times in your career and the challenges you've had. What was the toughest thing that you've had to face in your career so far? Judy: I'm going to say two things. They were kind of tied together. The Packet Design Model involved spinning out these companies, and then hiring executives to run them and getting back your investment for them. And it involved then me learning how to let go. Because if you spinout a company, the company has to become independent. The CEO of that company has to run the company. You can't have two CEOs. So one of the very interesting things for me was one: I learned how hard it is to find good executives, to find good leadership and that process of learning how to let go, which I think I have developed as a board member and is one of the things that makes me more effective as a board member today, is that I have learned when to suggest, when it's my business to poke in, and when not. And how to question in a way that helps the CEO think, and helps hold them accountable without meddling in their business or trying to do their job. So that's number one. But I would say, by far, the hardest thing that I had to do was being involved in the shutting down of Precision IO. It was the first time that one of the companies that I helped start had to outright fail. And we couldn't navigate an exit strategy for it. Every other time when there was something that didn't go exactly the way we wanted, we were able to navigate an exit. And whether it is acquisition or partnership or changing strategy, here, because of the timing, because of execution, leadership, the venture dynamic, we ended up just shutting it down. And having to let people go that I've been involved in hiring was just very tough for me. Lucy: It really is tough, I think, for anybody. And it's tough for the people on the receiving end. It's interesting how a lot of times; those are the changes in people's lives where they go off to do wonderful, exciting things. Judy: Right. And I'm happy to say that the core team that got let go, those that I have continued to touch base with, are all in great places. They were all terrific people and very employable. But it doesn't make it any easier to make that decision. Lucy: So, Judy, one of the reasons we are doing these interviews with women like you is we're hoping that a number of young people will listen to these, and learn, and get inspired to go off and, potentially, be entrepreneurs in their career. So if you were sitting there, what would be some of the best advice you would give them? Judy: Well, I guess a couple of things. One is: do it for passion, not for money. So it's wonderful to make money if you're successful. But if you're doing it for the money, and the money is what you're doing it for first, I guarantee you won't come up with as good an idea or be as successful. So every entrepreneur I've seen that is doing whatever they're doing (a new product, a new service), because they are passionate about solving a problem with a new type of technology, those are the ones that are most successful. I'm not going to say that having a company go public, or get bought, and making money from it is not great. And that has to also be a motivator, because the venture guys want you to want to make money, because they want to make money. But the passion has to be there. And that should be the number one. So I guess that's one piece. The second is: you have to be ready to fail. You have to be ready to fail, pick yourself up, and try again. I think that sometimes we get confused because it was such a long time of growth and opportunity in the IT business, that so many companies were so successful, that people forget how hard it is to really build a successful company. And more companies fail than succeed. And so you really have to be ready to fail. And everybody says it, but you have to be ready to do it and pick yourself up and try again. The third thing is: that when I think about what it takes to be an entrepreneur, I already talked about the passion. It takes flexibility and persistence. You really have to be willing to keep going and plow through obstacles. But you also have to have a sense of judgment and flexibility to know when that obstacle... Sometimes you need to push through the obstacle. Sometimes that obstacle is telling you something. And what it's telling you is: you need to be flexible enough to change your strategy a little bit. And so this balance between persistence that just has you pushing forward, ignoring the naysayers and just knowing that your vision is right, but the flexibility and the open mindedness, to be able to say to yourself, "You know what? Maybe it's not 100 percent right. And maybe I just learned something new that I have to change slightly or change dramatically." So that balance between persistence and flexibility. And then last, there are lots of people out of school that want to go right from school to being the CEO of a company. My advice is get experience first because it will make you a better entrepreneur. Again, I think everybody thinks it's easier to build a company that it really is. Now that experience might be at another entrepreneurial company where you go work somewhere and watch someone else do it. It doesn't have to be 10 years of experience but getting some experience first I think will make you a much better entrepreneur. I think the trend of get your degree and start a company is actually not a good one. Some people can do it but I think it's better to be able to watch others a little bit first. Lucy: I can really echo this notion of passion. Last night I listened to the three‑minute pitches of 10 young entrepreneurial teams here in Boulder. I got to be the judge. The ones that really were in love with their idea and passionate about it ‑ and you could really see that there was a subset that was and then a subset if I would have said, "Why don't you make black white?" they would have said OK. [laughs] Larry: Hmm. Lucy: So it was just kind of an interesting experience. You have given us a lot of, I think, great characteristics of entrepreneurs. I know that they are your personal characteristics as well in terms of flexibility and persistence and having good judgment. Do you have any other personal characteristics that you haven't shared with us so far that you think have given you an advantage as an entrepreneur? Judy: I work very hard. [laughs] So that's part of that persistence. I'm really willing to roll up my sleeves and work very hard. We have talked about passion. Communication skills ‑ I think that one thing that I have always been able to do is communicate my passion and my vision to a broad range of people, so whether it is to the customer, to the marketplace, to employees. It's not enough just to have the passion and vision. You have to be able to communicate it and get other people excited about it also, for instance, raising money. So, I think my communication skills probably have helped me. The other is that I tend to be very forward‑looking. I am always willing to question. I'm very open‑minded. So in terms of when you try to think about, "Well, how did you decide to start a company in this area?" that whole notion of being able to look at what is available and what isn't and how can you take technologies that exist and maybe do something different with them. So the whole arena of being able to question what is out there, question myself, be honest, and do kind of a self‑assessment about where I or the company is at any certain time, I think has helped. There are some entrepreneurs that go in one direction until they hit a wall. The ability to self assess and question oneself and what you're doing without becoming wishy‑washy, but just a healthy amount of it, I think is important. Then last I would say leadership. I love building teams of people and leading teams of people. I think the teams of people that have worked for me appreciate the relationship and the environment or the culture that we created. So I would say leadership is probably the last. Lucy: That's great. I sense you have learned a ton through all the startups you have built. Judy: I have. I would say leadership style is really what I am talking about. Lucy: So, one of the things about which we are always curious is, being an entrepreneur, especially with the phenomenally successful companies you have built or as an executive at Cisco, how have you brought balance into your personal and professional life. Judy: I would say that until I had my son, which was in 1990, in our second company, I didn't. All I did was work. I had no balance in my personal/professional life. The only reason it worked is Bill and I cofounded the companies together. So our personal and professional lives just melded into one. We didn't do anything except work. Having a child forced me to have balance because my son became my number one priority. It doesn't mean the companies weren't important. But there was no question in my mind about what my number one priority was. Then I had to begin to juggle. I think that what I always tell people is that you can do it but the first thing you have to realize this is really hard to acknowledge to yourself because you can't do everything. So you have to prioritize and figure out what you are not going to do. You know, I couldn't be at every event at his school. I could pick the ones I wanted to be at. I had to make trade‑offs and establish routines where I would leave work at 5:30 in order to be able to spend time with my son. But then I, at 8:30 or 9:00 would go back to email and work some more. So an analogy I like to give people is when you're juggling, good jugglers know how many balls they can juggle. They don't ever pick up any more than that. I think the mistake people make is at each stage of your life, if you have children at each stage of their lives, the number of balls you can juggle changes because the balls change in size. The different phases of the company take different amounts of attention. So in six month increments in my life, I have always said, "OK. How many balls can I be juggling?" because if you pick up one more than you know how to juggle, they all fall down. So you're much better off putting one down so that you can continue to juggle than having the whole thing fall apart. The other thing is learning to ask for help. That was very hard for me to learn how to do. Whether it's getting help in your personal life or getting help at work and delegating and getting other people to do things that maybe inside you know or think you could do better, usually it's just that you think you could do better and other people can do them just as well and you need to learn how to do it. Now that I am older and I'm in a different phase of my life, I try to more consciously balance personal and professional. I think for 25 years when I was running companies it was coping. Now I'm spending more time consciously saying I need to make sure that I pay attention to myself as well as others. Lucy: So, I think juggling is a wonderful way to describe it. It's a wonderful analogy. We have talked with a number of people who have also talked about integration and we have had other words. I think juggling is terrific. So you have really achieved a lot. There is a lot about your career at that we haven't even touched on in this interview. But we always like to ask our interviewees what's next for them. What is next for Judy Estrin? Judy: It's been an interesting couple of years in terms of changes in my life. For the first time I'm not running a company. A couple of years ago, I picked up my head and said, "What's next?" and decided that I wanted what's next to be something very different, that I do not want to start another company at this point in time. I do have my Board seats, which I spend a lot of time on and love. But I decided to write a book. I started about a year and a half ago and hope to have it in bookstores in the August timeframe, August '08. That is a very, very different type of endeavor than running a company. But the reason I did it was the same reason. It was passion for a topic. The book has to do with innovation. But it has not specifically targeted it as 'here is how to make your business more innovative', which is what most of the innovation books are about. It more looks at how you create cultures of innovation for science and technology and where we are as a country and the fact that we have lost some of the elements that made us so successful have eroded. So it's really a little bit of a broader perspective on not just businesses but the country and what we need to do to cultivate sustainable innovation looking forward. Lucy: Well, I've had the pleasure of seeing some of your early remarks that you gave a group a couple of months ago. I'm very much looking forward to the book because you have had very thoughtful ideas. So hurry up and finish it. Judy: I'm working as fast as I can. Larry: All right. Lucy: Really, thanks a lot, Judy for your time. I know you're really busy and we really appreciate you taking time out to talk to us. Larry: I want to thank you so much. You echoed one of my feelings that over the years we have learned more from our mistakes and failings than we have from our successes. Judy: No question. One of the big things in my book is that you need to failure as a step to success and not an end in itself. So if you're not willing to fail then you never try anything. Larry: That's right. Judy, I want to thank you for joining us today. By the way, you listeners out there, would you please pass this interview along to people that you know, that would be interested and maybe even should be interested. It's an excellent story. Just go to www.ncwit.org and that's where you can see all of the different interviews along with w3w3.com. Thank you much. Lucy: Thanks Judy. Judy: Bye‑bye. Series: Entrepreneurial HeroesInterviewee: Judy EstrinInterview Summary: For Judy Estrin, an interest in science and technology is in the blood: her older sister is an MD; her younger sister is a professor of computer science; and her parents both have PhDs in electrical engineering. Release Date: September 13, 2007Interview Subject: Judy EstrinInterviewer(s): Lucy Sanders, Larry Nelson, Lee KennedyDuration: 27:36