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Hosts and former NFL executives Charles Coplin and Mike Smith offer unique insight and perspective into the world of sports. Charles Coplin is an Emmy Award winning Producer and Programmer who has worked for four television networks, two American Sports L

Charles Coplin and Mike Smith


    • May 21, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 38m AVG DURATION
    • 141 EPISODES


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    Time to Change the Format?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2025 47:13


    The NBA Playoff format and thoughts and insights on many different sports are discussed by Charles, Mike, and Jason and of course the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week 

    Ultimate Commander

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2025 29:54


    Buzzer beaters, last-minute lamplighters. It's playoff time, and more people are watching. The NFL goes to the White House. Among the topics, Alcatraz. Wrexham is in the money, the Wormbyte; a fantastic Champions League game, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    We're Not Going To Talk About That

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2025 29:43


    Why did Shadeur Sanders fall so far? What's up with Bill Belichick's book? The NBA Playoffs are getting chippy. Plus Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    NFL Coachella

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2025 37:42


    The draft blows into Titletown. Mike and Charles discuss the NFL's lucrative accomplishment of turning what once was a meeting into the world's largest rotating sports festival. Is this ESPN's last Draft? The NBA and NHL Playoffs begin. The guys wonder if they are too long for the sport's best interest? Jason's Wormbyte gives Rory some overdue love and Charles's memories of Don Mischer,  the great Super Bowl Halftime Producer/Director, who died this week at 85. 

    The Flagg Flies At Half Mast

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 25:54


    Mike and Charles postmortem the NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Tournaments, Ovi makes history, Luka goes homemade coaching your team to the playoffs gets you fired. Jason's Wormbyte  on "A Tradition Like No Other" and the Dr. Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    Damn the Torpedo

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2025 36:34


    ...in the Bronx. Is it good for baseball? NFL news from the Owners Meeting from the Olympics to the Tush Push. A ho hum NCAA tournament? The Worm thinks so. Did you hear anything about a record that is probably the most important individual milestone in their sport? Plus, the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    Beware the Ides of March Presented by Guggenheim

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2025 31:03


     A new Olympics Deal for NBC. The tip off of March Madness and MLB's starting pitch is in Japan. NBA tanking, and Jason's Wormbyte on the real NCAA Basketball Tournament and the continuing annals of the Dr. Mike Smith annual spring training sojourn. 

    Polarizing

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 28:34


    Kyrie, The Great One and the Hit King. Good guys? Bad guys? Has any sports franchise in history had a worse month than the Mavs? (not including the Jets of course). POTUS influence on the world of sports plus Jason's Wormbyte includes developments in the ACC and why it's just the tip of the iceberg and he asks Mike and Charles; Is Hard Knocks over? Who replaces Jimmy Johnson on Fox? No love for Coldplay and FIFA? Plus the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    It was Great. Please Don't do it Again.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 38:06


    The four nations tournament was a success. We discuss. Playoff P? Podcast P? The NBA after the trade deadline and speaking of disappointments, the report cards are in from the NFLPA and one team got an F. Guess which one? ESPN and MLB have a testy divorce but is it just a negotiating tactic? Jason throws out some questions in his Wormbyte and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Salutations. It's your Uncle Sam, and this is the Great American Game!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 43:42


    Mike and Charles talk about the Super Bowl and the Kendrick Lamar halftime show. Why it was an artistic move in the middle of the noise. A report card on Brady and Burkhart plus other metrics and insights from the game. Jason pays tribute to two legendary basketball announcers and Mike is still nervous even after his Eagles dominated the Chiefs.

    The Empire Strikes Back

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2025 37:27


    Does the Luka trade shift the balance of power to the Owners? It's Super Bowl Week...will Mahomes be crowned the greatest ever while the former GOAT calls the game? Fox, Trump, Kendrick, and Taylor headed to Da Big Easy. Plus Jason's Wormbyte and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Why Don't They Measure Anymore?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2025 34:22


    A look back at the NFL weekend including ratings, bad officiating, and thoughts on Brady vs. Romo. Glory, glory! Jerry hires a coach. Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Why are Ratings Down?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2025 51:48


    Mike and Charles speculate on what may be best described as football fatigue. Plus - bad officiating, football in the snow, conflicted announcers, coaching hires and the Commish wants an 18-game season. Ichiro to the Baseball Hall of Fame, Jason with his Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week is going to the dogs.

    Divisional Doink!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2025 46:56


    Charles is somewhere north of the Arctic Circle fighting polar bears so Mike and Jason tackle a busy week. We discuss the terrible wildfires in LA and how they affected the sports world. The dull NFL playoff weekend and the always-curious coaching carousel. CFP semi-finals - caught up in too much football, TGL debuts with Tiger, Venu collapses, and the fallout for sports consumers going forward. Finally, we tip the cap to two legends in the sports media world from very different spectrums. 

    More Football Than Ever Before

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2025 33:56


    Our first show of '25. Mike and Charles take a closer look at NFL Playoff Scheduling through the eyes of the media partners and Clubs along with some thoughts on the CFB Playoffs. Bad boys Butler and Hill in Miami. Jason looks at what to watch for 2025 and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    The Beyonce Bowl

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2024 39:11


    Mike and Charles on the Netflix Christmas experiment. BANG BANG! LeBron trolls the NFL. The CFB Playoffs debut with full stadiums but four lousy games. Some internal squabbling at the "Worldwide Leader", Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. We are off next week so Happy New Year!

    The Hoodie Heads South

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2024 29:36


    Bill Belichick goes back to school. Charles and Mike have thoughts on "Patriots South". The latest on the NFL and why there are awful matchups this coming Sunday afternoon. Plus the NBA Cup, does anybody care? Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Doh!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2024 39:39


    Soto to the Mets. The CFB field is set. NFL thoughts from the weekend plus Jason goes full Lewis Black and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Planting the Flag

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 33:42


    Mike and Charles discuss the postgame brawls that occurred at several CFB games across the country on Saturday. Gus Johnson goes falsetto, Jameis looks to a higher authority to help out his battle with turnovers, Eberflus exits Chicago, Week 15 in the NFL schedule is going to be different and the guys explain why. Plus MLB's new golden idea and Charles and Jason say farewell to Rudy Martzke and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    Shaboozey

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2024 36:58


    Mike and Charles weigh in on what an awful year it's been for the NY football teams and which one of the two has had the worst of it. A look at all things NFL on Thanksgiving, the first time ever of a Thursday night game being flexed and how that impacts the rest of the weekend. Plus it's a new Comcast Universe and can MLB ever figure out what to do about their local broadcasting issues? Jason's Wormbyte, Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week, what we're thankful for and Shaboozey!!!

    Inside the ESPNBA

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2024 29:52


    Jason and Charles unpack the win-win win that is Inside the NBA's move to ESPN. Bad fight, bad technical problems. Netflix is hoping two great games and Queen B save Christmas. Plus we have some mid-season NFL thoughts and rants.

    NFL Goes Globaler

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2024 35:35


    Jason and Mike discuss the NFL's global ambition and its impact on the playing schedule, business, and how the Olympics are critical. They also dive into the College Football Playoffs and what is setting up to be the most amazing 20 days of football ever. Charles was missing but they didn't miss the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. 

    A Bronx Tale and a Hail

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 43:32


    Charles and Mike talk about the World Series, Jayden Daniels magic, the Jets, Cowboys, and 76'ers are not so good, but a nice story about an Owner!!!!!!  Jason's Wormbyte(s) and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    It's Been 43 Years

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2024 32:01


    Jason and Charles talk about the World Series dream come true for Major League Baseball. The WNBA arrives but there is more to think about. Should Brady be the lead game analyst for Fox with the new restrictions the NFL has put on his commentary now that he is a minority owner of the Raiders? Is Deshaun Watson the worst trade in sports history? The NBA tips off and FIFA makes some questionable decisions.

    OMG

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2024 40:09


    Big show this week. The NFL's longest day, Saleh from the UK to unemployment, Josh Allen's chest injury? A monsoon in Pittsburgh. October baseball on the field and thoughts on the announcers, Jason's Wormbyte on Project Rudy, and the Dr. Mike Smith Happy Birthday Sports Moment of the Week.

    Hands in the Cookie Jar

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2024 35:19


    The guys remember Pete Rose and Dikembe Mutombo, talk about the beautiful mess that is the NCAA, call out ESPN for Zach Lowe's departure. It's October so they offer a POV on baseball and a Jason wormbyte, safe and sound in North Carolina, on soccer greed and financial malfeasance, plus the Dr. Mike Smith moment of the week.

    A Bomb, a Crash and a Bang

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2024 32:00


    Miike, Charles and Jason are back. This week's topics include a Woj bomb, an Ohtani blast, and a Tua crash. Plus an appreciation of Eugene "Mercury" Morris from the two Miami guys, a classic EPL match in September, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week

    LFG

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2024 41:04


    The guys talk all things NFL Opening Weekend including; Tyreek, Tom, Kendrick, Troy, Brazil, Peacock, Manningcast, and Charles' rant about the Sunday Ticket TV commercial—Jason with his Wormbyte on the Pac-12 news and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Wait. What Channel Is That On???

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2024 33:07


    It's that time of year. Mike and Charles respond to Bill Belichick's "Get off of my lawn" rant about all the kickoff entertainment at Gillette during the early days of their dynasty and why the Krafts felt differently. Things to watch for on Opening Weekend. Brady? Rodgers? Kickoffs? Brazil? The guys make their on and off-the-field predictions for the 2024 NFL season. Two Americans in the US Open semifinal but will anyone watch. Jason's Wormbyte on the good and bad of college football and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Dream On Tom Brady

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2024 28:21


    Mike and Charles try to decipher Tom Brady's dream. The coach and QB are now the media but would TB12 rather be an owner? Would he leave Fox in the middle of the season? The Kelce's cash in. More changes at ESPN, NFL embraces Private Equity. Jason's Wormbyte gets you ready for college football and Mike's fantasy the Dr. Smith Moment of the week.

    Ponder the Preseason

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 35:39


    Mike, Charles, and Jason talk about some changes for the major broadcast networks for the upcoming NFL season. Plus the Venu ruling, Charles shares some funny stories from a preseason broadcast seminar and of course, the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    The Flame Still Burns

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2024 35:40


    Mike, Charles and Jason talk about how much everyone is loving these Olympic Games and why. NFL: punishment for Jim Harbaugh? Prevailing in the Sunday Ticket case. Charles Barkley unretires, now what? Plus the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Nuthin' But A Gold Thang

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2024 29:09


    Mike and Charles discuss the reasons they think the Paris Olympics have been such a big success so far including the fantastic ratings and NBC's presentation. They also look back on the Opening Ceremony and the reasons why this year's NFL Hall of Fame Game is worth watching. plus Jason's take on Hard Knocks and Charlie Hustle and of course, the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    The Peacock Shows Off Its Feathers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2024 31:20


    Mike and Charles review the contested NBA deal, preview the Olympics and discuss the inevitable, an 18-game NFL schedule. Plus, Jason's take and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week which got him in a pickle.

    Hot Fun in the Summertime

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2024 40:03


    The boys are back with lots to talk about including the Euros, the Copa America debacle, The NFL Sunday Ticket case, the new NBA, and the MLB All-Star Game and Home Run Derby. Plus Jason's Wormbyte and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. We kick it off with the National Anthem, did somebody say debacle?

    18

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2024 40:14


    An 18th banner for the Celtics as the NBA reaches an inflection point. 18 holes and Bryson DeChambeau. Are the more colorful golfers in LIV? The Sunday Ticket/NFL trial is heating up. A Caitlin Clark Olympics alternative. Live mics on baseball players pro or con? Jason's Wormbyte on going to the US Open and thoughts on the early days of the Euros and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the week.

    A Foul on the WNBA

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2024 33:09


    Mike and Charles react to the treatment Caitlin Clark is receiving in the WNBA and how this unique opportunity could end up being squandered. Mike's take on the Sunday Ticket NFL suit, MLB gambles with its players and the consequences. The NBA is changing before our eyes and can any casual hockey fan name 5 players on Florida and Edmonton? Jason's Wormbyte on why June is the best sports month of the year and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Fare Thee Well

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2024 34:42


    What a long, strange trip it's been. Mike and Charles remember Bill Walton, discuss the potential ramifications of the NCAA settlement. Is it only a matter of time before there are 18 regular season games in the NFL? Is Dallas now the greatest sports town in America? Plus Jason's Worrbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Bring Ya A$$

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2024 38:41


    A can't-miss open and then Mike and Charles talk NBA ratings, broadcast opinions, and speculate on the new deal. Mike digs deep into the NFL's future with private equity. Is baseball changing its business model? Jason on Stax Records and soccer plus the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. Like, subscribe and BRING YA A$$!

    Merry Xmas Netflix

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 37:30


    The NFL broadcast schedule is out. As a former contributor to the process, and with so "many mouths to feed" Charles opines on what an amazing job the NFL has done. Did TNT blow up their relationship with the NBA and why Comcast may be proud as a Peacock? Jason's rant on a variety of topics from throwback jerseys for the NY Football Giants and the new sports bundle called Venu.  Plus the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week is a special one as Dr. Smith takes the big walk.

    Netflix and (is the NFL) chill?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2024 41:23


    What did the NFL think of the Brady roast? Mike and Charles speculate on what they might be thinking on Park Avenue? Questions for the NBA: Are the Knicks benefiting from the officiating? Is Ant Man the new MJ? Traveling is no longer foul in the WNBA. Are Americans spoiling the in-stadium experience across the pond? Plus Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the week.

    It's Our 100th Show!

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2024 57:59


    And they said it wouldn't last. After talking about Tyrese Maxey, the changing of the guard in the NBA, the Atlanta Falcons, and the NFL Draft plus the new  ESPN and CBS NFL studio shows, Mike, Charles, and Jason play their favorite clips from their first 99 shows. It is entertaining, informative, and self-indulgent - a must-listen. Shout out to the great Joe Friezo for producing and researching this one. 

    The Real Slim Shady

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 39:42


    It's our 99th episode! Mike and Charles talk about the officiating issues in the NBA. Is transparency a bad thing? Plus a look at the beginning of both the NBA and NHL Playoffs from all angles. Steph, KD and LeBron are 1-5 post regular season. The NFL Draft is in Detroit. The guys predict all-time ratings highs. Jason breaks down the new Apple/FIFA deal in his wormbyte. The Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week and remembering Howie Schwab. 

    Women's Basketball Eclipses the Men

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2024 41:47


    Charles and Mike recap March Madness, speculate on a rumored NCAA Football League and the NFL's involvement in it, more changes at NFL Network and ESPN, Jason's Wormbyte on the Masters, the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. Oh and Bronny James...

    Big Ratings...You Bet

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2024 37:15


    It's a big show! NCAA Mens and Women's Tournament, Unhappy NFL Owners, The Oakland A's debacle, a 76er's prediction, Jason's Wormbyte, Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week. Plus a lot of bad jokes and funny stories. enjoy!

    Has the Sports World Made a Bad Bet?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2024 39:20


    Mike and Charles talk about the potential pitfalls of sports betting as they address the Ohtani story. Plus a lot from the NFL Owners Meeting including the way they play, and we will watch pro football starting next season. Jason's wormbyte on the NCAA tournament in person and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Say Hey Shohei! Did You Know It Was Baseball Opening Day??

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2024 32:16


    Mike and Charles talk March Madness. Will Caitlin Clark and the Women's Tournament outrate the Mens? Does MLB believe in marketing and promotion???LeBron and JJ launch a podcast that is the first of its kind. Jason tees it up in his Wormbyte and Dr. Mike Smith earns a comma in the MS Sports Moment of the Week.

    Dead Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2024 30:14


    LeBron 40-thousand points legacy update, Russell Wilson is sacked, The Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs are close to the bottom in an NFLPA survey of NFL players asking best and worst teams to play for. Jason remembers Mort, talks to Jason Kelce and why the women's tournament is going to be more exciting than the mens. Dr. Mike tours Spring Training for the MSSMOTW...Show us some love on the review page and subscribe

    Baseball has a Pants Problem

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2024 24:50


    Yes they do. Mike and Charles discuss the new MLB uniform controversy plus Mike unpacks the economics and implications of the new whopping NFL salary cap. Plus legendary Sports Illustrated journalist Peter King is retiring and Charles recalls a few stories of working with him when he started in TV. Jason's Wormbyte on the new Apple TV Plus series on the Patriots and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week and a Costanza cameo!

    Not Exactly Super Bowl Sunday

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2024 26:50


    Mike and Charles look back at an offensive NBA All-Star Weekend through both a League and broadcast lens including  Sabrina vs Steph and Kenny Smith's comments. Caitlin Clark is a generational talent playing to a limited audience. Plus the NHL Stadium Series comes to the swamps of Jersey, the Wormbyte on NASCAR and the MIke Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

    Viva Las Vegas

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2024 42:28


    Mike and Charles give their thoughts on what it will be like to sit at the next executive staff meeting at the NFL offices following the big game. Plus their thoughts on KC, Taylor and Travis, Andy Reid's leadership style, CBS's broadcast and the Halftime Show. Jason's Wormbyte on The NFL Today, Nickelodeon's broadcast for kids and his choice for best commercials and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.

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