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Boomer and Gio are intrigued by a report that the Jets reached out to Jon Gruden for a coordinator position. Plus, why Evan Roberts believes this is all a set up for Gruden to become head coach in 2027 (18:20); Evan & Tiki discuss the hopelessness of the Jets (35:23); Craig Carton calls out the Jets and the Gruden delusion (59:00); Boomer and Gio on the mess that the Jets find themselves in with their coordinators (1:13:28).
Boomer and Gio are intrigued by a report that the Jets reached out to Jon Gruden for a coordinator position. Plus, why Evan Roberts believes this is all a set up for Gruden to become head coach in 2027 (18:20); Evan & Tiki discuss the hopelessness of the Jets (35:23); Craig Carton calls out the Jets and the Gruden delusion (59:00); Boomer and Gio on the mess that the Jets find themselves in with their coordinators (1:13:28).
On this Friday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington, discuss Joe Brady getting introduced as the Head Coach for the Bills and Josh Allen in a walking boot. Plus, the guys hear from Josh Allen blaming himself for McDermott's firing, Super Bowl uniforms, a Gruden edition of ICYMI, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Al & C-Lo: Al is angry at kindness, Gruden never heard from the Jets, an offensive coordinator falls asleep and what was Netflix's plan if that dude fell while climbing that building? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Hour 2 opens with Jon Gruden finally addressing the rumor mill on Tampa sports radio, flatly saying there was “never anything” from the New York Jets. Evan and Tiki Barber dig into what that actually means, parsing the difference between an “offer” versus contact through agents, friends, or back channels, and why the wording can be technically true while still avoiding the full story. They also push back hard on fans dismissing credible reporting, defending Diana Russini and Zack Rosenblatt and explaining how information can be real while still being shaped by the motivations of whoever leaked it. The conversation turns into a bigger question: who benefits from the Gruden chatter being out there, and could it make Aaron Glenn look better or worse depending on what gets pinned on him versus Woody Johnson? Then the show takes a left turn into comedy when a caller, Ozzie from Woodridge, “bullies” both Evan and Shaun about their hair on YouTube, leading to on-air style changes, hat reveals, and plenty of roasting. On the phones, the Malik Willis conversation heats up with callers pitching him as a real Jets swing, plus trade ideas and fear that he ends up elsewhere. The hour closes by pivoting to the NBA trade deadline drama: how a potential Giannis Antetokounmpo move could ripple into a New York Knicks decision on Karl-Anthony Towns, why Oklahoma City Thunder and Golden State Warriors keep getting mentioned, and the ultimate high-risk debate: is Anthony Davis worth the gamble if you are chasing a title?
Zack Rosenblatt of The Athletic joins the show to address Jon Gruden publicly denying the Jets rumor and makes it crystal clear: he stands by his reporting that the New York Jets made a phone call to gauge interest, not that they offered him a job. Zack explains why Gruden might be playing semantics, why it may not benefit him to embarrass a team, and how stories like this get distorted once they hit the rumor mill. From there, the conversation turns to the Jets larger plan, or lack of one. Zack says the offensive coordinator search has been messy and shifting, but he still believes Frank Reich is the most likely landing spot because he would function as the “head coach of the offense,” allowing Aaron Glenn to focus on defense. They also dig into the quarterback problem, the thin list of realistic options, and why the Jets are stuck between short-term band-aids and a long-term rebuild. Finally, Zack tackles the biggest fear Jets fans have: Woody Johnson getting too involved as pressure mounts. He describes how quickly the internal plan seemed to change, why the coaching staff decisions scream disarray, and how the Jets are being mocked around the league in a way he has not seen during his time covering the team. The interview ends with the blunt question of whether this job is becoming toxic, and what happens next if the Jets stumble again.
The conversation picks up on the Jon Gruden storyline with Evan laying out why, if the idea truly came from ownership, it would signal just how desperate the New York Jets might be. Evan argues that if Jon Gruden ever returns to coaching, it would take both money and real power, and the Jets might be the only team willing to hand him the keys to the franchise. The crew also discusses the unspoken reality that any team openly embracing Gruden could face quiet backlash from the rest of the league, even if fans never see it publicly. From there, the phones flip the segment toward hockey and New York sports pride. Callers gush over Matthew Schaefer, with bold claims that he is already the new king of New York sports. Evan pushes back on the hype, agreeing Schaefer is special but cautioning against crowning dynasties after a few months, which turns into a heated back and forth about prospects, sure things, and why fans always protect their own guys. The segment closes with a classic Knicks history argument as callers debate who really kept the New York Knicks from winning a championship in the 1990s. Evan breaks down why both Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon were roadblocks, but draws a clear distinction with LeBron James, arguing LeBron never haunted the Knicks the way Jordan did, and that the lingering resentment toward him says more about fan emotion than actual history.
We try to figure out what the position is and what it means and why they hired who they did. We also get into Jon Gruden on a Tampa radio station saying there was no offer from the Jets.
C-Lo's here with Jon Gruden shutting down those Jets rumors while Brandon Tierney pulls no punches on Woody Johnson. Boomer's got a Raiders coaching prediction, an emotional Joe Brady in Buffalo, and the Islanders sweep the Rangers.
This morning we have Jon Gruden busy debunking Jets rumors, and a controversial YouTuber has been named the league's "Chief Kindness Officer." We've got the emotional introduction of Joe Brady in Buffalo and Robert Saleh's "fast and violent" promise for his new squad. Plus, we celebrate the Islanders' season sweep of the Rangers with Matthew Schaefer and a new Netflix doc about the Miracle On Ice. Also, we dive into scandalous tee-ball coaching advice, and confusing "I'm enoughed" T-shirts.
Boomer questions why Bill Belichick is on a Hall of Fame ballot while still eyeing the sidelines. We talk about the NFL's bizarre "Chief Kindness Officer" appointment and Jon Gruden debunking the Jets rumors. We've also got the latest on the Islanders' absolute dominance over the Rangers, an emotional Joe Brady starting his new era in Buffalo, and we look at the Nipah virus outbreak in India for some reason.
In Hour 2, the guys go into the report that the Jets called John Gruden to see his interest in coaching, which he declined, and we hear the rumblings of a mystery coaching candidate on the table for the Cardinals and Raiders. Plus, the guys react to Deion Sanders's fining list in Colorado for his players at school, we have our Express Pro Of The Week, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hour 2 of Jeremy and Joe! Hall of Famer John McClain joined the guys to talk about the controversy of Bill Belichick not being voted into the NFL HOF Bill Polian said he's 95 percent sure he voted for Belichick. Things you are 95 percent confident you did? Reactions to the top NFL news including the Browns underwhelming coaching hire, and Gruden turning down the Jets
Evan lays out his blunt read on the Jets reaching out to Jon Gruden: it feels less like a coordinator search and more like a preview of what Woody Johnson might do when Aaron Glenn is gone. To separate paranoia from reality, the show brings in Jets reporter Connor Hughes to explain what he's hearing inside the building, how “hands off” Woody really is, and why a name like Gruden almost certainly touched ownership at some level. Connor details how the Jets' staff plan has shifted in real time, why candidates believed the defensive coordinator job was traditional before Aaron Glenn decided he wanted to call plays, and how the process spiraled from big-name interviews into a lesser-known hire with Glenn essentially running the defense. On offense, he explains the original plan to keep Tanner Engstrom in place with a veteran “head coach of the offense,” why firing him complicates things, and why Frank Reich is trending as the likely answer once the required interview process plays out. The bigger takeaway is the one Jets fans can't escape: the organization is getting mocked league-wide, the timeline to get a staff and quarterback plan in order is shrinking fast, and any Gruden connection is gasoline on a situation that already feels toxic. The segment then pivots to the Giants, where optimism is rising under John Harbaugh and the OC opening is suddenly one of the most attractive springboards in the league. Finally, the show reacts to fresh Browns drama involving Jim Schwartz, adding another dose of “what are they doing?” dysfunction to a day that already has plenty of it.
The Jets rumor mill hits a new level when reports surface that New York reached out to Jon Gruden, and the crew immediately connects the dots to a bigger, messier question: is this really Aaron Glenn's show, or is Woody Johnson still lurking with “suggestions” that can shake the whole building? Connor Hughes joins to explain what he's hearing from inside the organization, why the Jets' coaching plan has felt scattered, and how quickly a bad start could turn any “big name” hire into instant chaos. Along the way, the conversation digs into how toxic the Jets' reputation has become around the league, why the staff changes caught people off guard, and why the franchise feels like it's stuck in a never ending cycle of headlines, embarrassment, and “trust us” messaging. If Gruden turned them down once, does that make it even more likely the Jets come crawling back later, especially if the season goes sideways again? And if the Jets keep operating like this, what does that say about who's really steering the ship?
The Jets hit the reset button again, and the fallout is ugly. With Aaron Glenn firing coaches and still searching for an offensive coordinator, the conversation turns to the wildest report yet: the Jets allegedly offered Jon Gruden a staff role, and the guys think that only happens if Woody Johnson is the one making the call. That sparks the bigger question: is this the setup for Gruden to become the next Jets head coach once the season goes sideways? Hour 1 dives into why the Jets feel like a disaster in the making for 2026: no OC, no QB, and a staff that looks like a collection of “singles to center field” hires. The crew debates whether the franchise should just go full drastic now, or ride out Glenn, embrace the tank, chase the No. 1 pick, and then make the big swing later (Arch Manning dreams included). Plus, a heated caller debate on whether Gruden should ever be hired again, the reality of the Jets' league-wide reputation, cap space vs dead money, and a potential “path forward” that includes a real play-caller and a quarterback swing like Malik Willis or Teddy Bridgewater. Then it's a quick pivot to Knicks notes after a win, with Karl-Anthony Towns again sitting late, Clyde calling out the defense, and more questions about crunch-time lineups.
The Jets blow up their coaching staff, rumors swirl about Jon Gruden, and one uncomfortable conclusion starts to feel unavoidable. After reports that the Jets reached out to Gruden for an offensive role, the discussion turns into a full blown look at who actually made that call, why it almost certainly came from ownership, and what it says about Aaron Glenn's future. As the Jets drift toward another chaotic season with no coordinator, no quarterback, and no clear direction, the idea takes hold that this is all groundwork for what comes next. A brutal 2026, a desperate franchise, and a coach no one else seems willing to touch. The conversation breaks down why firing Glenn now makes no sense, why bringing Gruden in today could be worse than waiting, and why a year from now Jets fans may finally get exactly what they have been asking for.
Jets fans hit a new low, so Evan turns to Tiki Barber for the one thing the fanbase is desperate for: an actual path forward. Tiki lays out a realistic short-term blueprint, starting with finding a competent, slightly “down on his luck” offensive mind, then using the Jets' cap flexibility to take a swing at a real QB plan that doesn't feel like another doomed lottery ticket. That leads straight into the Malik Willis idea, why he's viewed differently than Justin Fields, and why a Bridgewater-plus-Willis approach could at least make the offense functional and watchable. From there, the calls light up with the real issue hovering over everything: Jon Gruden. Is he even hirable? Do the Jets need a “CEO coach” to fix the entire operation? And if the Jets are already sniffing around Gruden, does that mean ownership is setting the table for the inevitable move next year? The segment wraps with a brutally honest look at the Jets' league-wide reputation, the fear that top quarterbacks simply won't choose New York, and the uncomfortable reality that “hope” might now mean rooting for the No. 1 pick and praying the next coach can finally change the culture.
We discuss the Jets' controversial pursuit of Jon Gruden, the fallout from Bill Belichick's stunning Hall of Fame snub, and an emotional Mike McCarthy eyeing a reunion with Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. Also, Robert Saleh and Brian Daboll join forces in Tennessee, what will NY fans think when "it" happens. From Joe Brady's new era in Buffalo to the Knicks' curious benching of KAT and Gio's official dislike of scripted TV, we've got everything we can reasonably offer.
Rumors of Jon Gruden talking to the Jets' have people asking who wanted it, Glenn or Woody. Also, the sports world is in a bit of shock as Bill Belichick missing the first-ballot Hall of Fame. Plus, Mike McDaniel's move to the Chargers and the Knicks' latest win to the Broncos firing their OC - a lot going on in this hour.
News that the Jets spoke to Jon Gruden about a coordinator job prompts a discussion about why him being back in the NFL might not ever happen.
The Jets made Gruden an offer he was obviously going to refuse and Belichick's HOF vote. How did the Jets not see this coming and a trade to save the Yankees offseason. Hour 4.
Mike Francesa talks about Jon Gruden being offered a role with the Jets and Bill Belichick being snubbed from the Football Hall of Fame. 01:20 Gruden Offered Role By Jets 6:48 Jets Coaching Updates 11:16 Bill Belichick Snubbed #jets #giant #betriversnetwork
raig Carton and Chris McMonigle rip into the growing push for Jon Gruden to return to the NFL with the New York Jets. Is Gruden really the offensive genius fans think he is, or has his TV persona completely warped reality? The guys break down Gruden's actual coaching record, why he would destroy Aaron Glenn's authority, and how Jets desperation keeps recycling the same mistakes.
The John Harbaugh sweepstakes heat up—will the Giants land him, or could the Bucs pull another "Gruden" and steal him away? Plus, Jerry's update features the fallout from Shaun Morash's massage, Trevor Lawrence getting "squatted" in a bar, and C-Mac's raw reaction to the Harbaugh news.
01-06-26 - The Cardinals Head Coaching Job Is Ranked As The Worst Of The Available Openings In The NFL As We Advocate For Them To Hire GrudenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
01-06-26 - The Cardinals Head Coaching Job Is Ranked As The Worst Of The Available Openings In The NFL As We Advocate For Them To Hire GrudenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
12-23-25 Previewing the Rate Bowl & Gruden hyping us up for The Lobos
Should the Jets and Giants embrace the tank for a better draft pick, or play to win? We discuss the organization's power to make that choice. Plus, the Knicks face the Spurs tonight in the NBA Cup Championship—but Joe Benigno couldn't care less! We also look into the long-shot chances of Jon Gruden returning to the NFL and debate who should write the ultimate gossip book about the history of WFAN.
The Jets' firing of Defensive Coordinator Steve Wilks is just the latest move in a disastrous 5-win season for the New York football teams, prompting deep dives into upcoming draft picks and the question of whether coaches should tank or try to win. Boomer believes a Mets blockbuster trade involving Francisco Lindor is coming, while the Knicks are playing for the much-debated NBA Cup tonight. We also break down the surprising Super Bowl odds, hear from Aaron Glenn after the Wilks firing, and reveal a mind-blowing statistic: this will be the first NFL playoffs in 27 years without Mahomes, Brady, or Manning! All that plus musing on a Gruden return and station hijinks.
December 3, 2025 Hour 1. South Florida should hire Gruden. CFP Rankings are out, what does it mean. The Starting Five.
Seth and Sean react to John Gruden losing his mind over the Texans and the Cowboys, as well as Dillon Brooks being salty about the lack of flopping calls vs the Rockets.
Seth and Sean dive into the chess match Sunday between DeMeco and Shane Steichen, how a win/loss could affect the Texans' playoff chances, react to John Gruden being hyped about football in Texas and Dillon Brooks being salty about a lack of flopping calls against the Rockets, and go through the day's Headlines.
Week 13 brings major shake-ups across Florida football. Jason Powers and guest Peter Blake recap USF's crushing loss at Navy, which ended the Bulls' American conference and playoff hopes after a disastrous defensive performance. They break down Florida's high-stakes coaching search, including whether Lane Kiffin could be the Gators' next offensive architect—and why John Gruden might be a surprise candidate. The guys also cover Mike Norvell's uncertain future at Florida State, Miami's push to stay playoff-relevant, and key developments at UCF, FAU, and FIU. NFL talk wraps the show, with analysis of the Buccaneers' defensive struggles, Jacksonville's postseason chances, and Miami's momentum after a win in Madrid.This episode is sponsored in part by TicketSmarter:Use promo code LWOS10 to receive $10 off purchases of $100 or moreUse promo code LWOS20 to receive $20 off purchases of $300 or moreThink smarter. TicketSmarter
“Is it time for Terry Bradshaw to hang it up?” That's the question Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray tackle in this wild and hilarious episode of The Ben and Skin Show.The crew kicks things off with the awkward reality of Bradshaw being sent home sick during Fox NFL Sunday—and revisits a jaw-dropping clip from a month ago where Terry spirals into a story about texting Andy Reid… only to realize he was talking to a guy selling pigs. Cue Michael Strahan's savage line: “How did you make it to the studio?”Then, buckle up for the most chaotic five minutes of sports content you'll hear all week: Jon Gruden's unhinged North Texas hype video. From Mean Joe Green trivia to random shout-outs for Stone Cold Steve Austin, Meatloaf, and Spider-Man's Sandman, Gruden goes full Gruden while unboxing UNT merch like it's Christmas morning. The guys break down why this bizarre rant might be the best accidental marketing campaign Denton has ever seen.
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Jon Gruden went on the Fan Morning Show that he would be shocked if Will Howard isn't a very good quarterback. Gruden said he wouldn't expect Howard to be on the bench much longer. Gruden thinks Omar Khan got a steal in the 6th. Chris Hoke thinks things would be different if Howard was a first-round pick, but Howard isn't going to play this year.
Hour 2 with Bob Pompeani, Joe Starkey, and Chris Hoke: If the Steelers don't fix this, they will QUICKLY win the division. Aaron Rodgers had 65 yards passing on the final drive. Jon Gruden went on the Fan Morning Show that he would be shocked if Will Howard isn't a very good quarterback. Gruden said he wouldn't expect Howard to be on the bench much longer. Gruden thinks Omar Khan got a steal in the 6th.
Jon Gruden doesn't think Howard will be on the bench much longer. Gruden said Howard is an accurate passer, a winner, has the wow factor, and he told Omar Khan he couldn't believe they drafted Howard in the 6th round. Steelers fans weigh in on if Will Howard can be the guy or someone else.
Hour 3 with Bob Pompeani and Joe Starkey: Jon Gruden doesn't think Howard will be on the bench much longer. Gruden said Howard is an accurate passer, a winner, has the wow factor, and he told Omar Khan he couldn't believe they drafted Howard in the 6th round. MLB.com is reporting that the Pirates could spend $30-40 million this offseason. Jon Gruden LOVES Mason Heintschel and thinks Heintschel is very mature.
Another thing Jon Gruden to The Fan Morning Show today was how much he loves Will Howard. How much are you buying in? Chris thinks it is totally overboard stuff from Gruden and that we can't keep building up these expectations for a guy that barely practiced before the season. Chris went as far to say Howard won't start more than a half season worth of games as long as he's wearing black & gold. Steve Palazzolo from the 33rd Team joined the show. Steve was skeptical of Will Howard when he transitioned from Kansas State to Ohio State, and he mostly got proved wrong last season as Howard won the national title. Steve pointed out some issues, but why he was impressed by his work last season. Steve said a lot of people can easily knock Howard, or any OSU QB, for being surrounded by great receivers, but he showed that he can get the ball to playmakers. Steve doesn't think Aaron Rodgers has lost anything physically, but he has his games/moments where he is showing signs of his age. Steve worries about how consistent Mike Tomlin is and why the Steelers should reach their cap on the same thing every year. Donny Football Debrief – So, just how much is Will Howard paying attention to Aaron Rodgers?
Boomer & Gio react to the Giants being featured on Hard Knocks: In Season with the NFC East and the timing couldn't be juicier. Gio jokes that it's reality TV gold after Daboll's firing, while Boomer wonders if Jon Gruden could actually return to coach Jaxson Dart. Plus, Chris Simms defends Mike McDaniel, Zac Taylor's job could be in danger, and Michelle Beadle unloads on Stephen A. Smith in a fiery media feud.
Boomer & Gio react to the Giants officially firing Brian Daboll but somehow keeping Joe Schoen. Gio calls it “a package breakup that makes no sense,” while Boomer looks ahead to who could replace him, from Steve Spagnuolo to big-name college coaches. The guys question Schoen's future, debate whether Jaxson Dart was really a Daboll guy, and react to Tiki Barber saying the culture changed under Daboll. Then, the Giants' season gets even juicier they're starring in Hard Knocks: In Season with the entire NFC East. Gio floats Jon Gruden as a wild replacement idea, Boomer wonders if Zac Taylor could be next to go, and Michelle Beadle goes head-to-head with Stephen A. Smith in a fiery media showdown. Finally, could the Giants actually trade for their next head coach? Boomer thinks Mike Tomlin might be worth a call. Plus, Jerry Recco's updates feature Daboll reaction, Gruden on Jaxson Dart, and the Rangers finally winning at MSG capped off by the Moment of the Day: Al Dukes admits he's into “horse face women,” and the room absolutely loses it.
Gio floats a wild idea Jon Gruden coaching Jaxson Dart while Boomer questions if Zac Taylor's job could be in danger in Cincinnati. Jerry Recco's update features Chris Simms defending Mike McDaniel as a “trendsetter,” Aaron Glenn's thoughts on Justin Fields, and a fiery clash between Michelle Beadle and Stephen A. Smith.
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BT & Sal erupt over the breaking news that the Giants have finally fired Head Coach Brian Daboll, calling it "the humane thing to do" after yet another catastrophic fourth-quarter collapse and a 2-8 record. They slam the baffling decision to keep GM Joe Schoen calling the shots and demand that Defensive Coordinator Shane Bowen be the next domino to fall. The hosts dive deep into the alarming health risks surrounding rookie QB Jaxson Dart, questioning Daboll's RPO obsession and playing a fascinating clip where Jon Gruden grills Dart on his "reckless" style of play. Also on the docket: the Jets' "unwatchable" offense securing an ugly win, Sal's rage over MetLife's new $100 parking hike (an "absolute joke"), and a hilarious breakdown of Sal's socially awkward "fun Friday night" bar event.
Giants fire Daboll. Gruden next? What's wrong with the Bills ? McDermott hot seat Are the Colts for real?. Grey Cup Preview and more with Moe Khan and Cam Stewart
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Dive into the latest NFL drama as we unpack the shocking stabbing incident involving Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis, leaving him in critical but stable condition after a late-night confrontation. From Vikings' mounting injuries to Jon Gruden's courtroom wins against the league, this episode covers the headlines shaking up the football world. Plus, get our detailed previews of key Sunday matchups and who Packers fans should root for to maintain NFC North dominance. Shocking details on Mark Sanchez's stabbing and the conflicting reports from the scene Vikings place Ryan Kelly on IR amid a brutal injury wave; analyzing their overseas clash with the Browns Tyreek Hill's season-ending injury sparks release rumors—could he land in Green Bay? Jon Gruden's lawsuit advances, potentially exposing NFL secrets through discovery This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Use code PACKDADDY and visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/PACKDADDY to get started with America's #1 fantasy sports app. Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite platform to stay updated on all things Packers. Follow us on social media for more discussions and join the conversation using #PackernetPodcast. To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast