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The Dive Down is a podcast focused on Magic: The Gathering's Modern, Pioneer, and Historic formats, with the casual spike in mind. Each week your hosts Dave, Shane, and Stanislav discuss decks, events, and level-up topics related to the latest non-rotating formats. Proudly sponsored by ManaTraders, the best Magic card rental service for both Magic Online and paper! Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Download the FREE Magic Arena stats tracking software, Untapped, from our affiliate link; http://untapped.thedivedown.com Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown

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    Episode 192: NRG Minneapolis & Trying Out Scapeshift & MonoG

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2022 102:06


    This week Dave and Stan review the results from the NRG Modern $10K in Minneapolis, where 5c Creativity beat Rakdos Scam in the finals. We also chat about the Sunday Pioneer $5K results, and other data that's been shared from across the weekend. Then we dip our toes in a couple new Modern decks to see if we like playing Scapeshift or Mono-Green Devotion. The Break Down: NRG Minneapolis Modern $10k and Pioneer $5k The Dive Down: Trying Out Scapshift (Modern) & MonoG (Pioneer) Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: Housekeeping - 4:45 NRG Minneapolis Modern 10K - 7:07 Modern Metagame Breakdown - 10:00 Modern Top 8 - 29:15 NRG Pioneer $5K - 46:40 Tournament Winrates Across Decks - 58:00 Stan plays Scapeshift - 1:12:36 Dave plays Mono-Green Devotion - 1:28:22 Links from this week's episode: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/10501 https://twitter.com/jekleckner/status/1574519024452763648?s=46&t=LFo9NVqh6FHt7ERhNQEOJg https://twitter.com/jekleckner/status/1574527119706804240?s=21&t=wjnnmBpxc8xzQekdAoEOqQ https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/the-nrg-championship-series/nrg-championship-trials-standings/ https://twitter.com/GRDONKIN/status/1572390053556457472?s=20&t=9-72YkHS22jcINubKZ7XA Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 191: My Sweet Lord(s): Goblins vs Merfolk vs Elves

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2022 95:30


    The introduction of three new lords in Dominaria United was all the incentive we needed to do a tribal week on The Dive Down. We tested some Modern and a Pioneer deck featuring Leaf-Crowned Visionary, Vodalian Hexcatcher, and Rundvelt Hordemaster for another edition of Sleeve Believe Heave. We also kick off the show with a preview of NRG Minneapolis by looking at the recent Modern results from the LMS Paris Grand Open Qualifier. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:55 - Housekeeping 7:13 - The Break Down - NRG Minneapolis preview 10:16 - Talking about the Modern Grand Open Qualifier data 26:22 - What are we thinking about NRG Minneapolis 34:53 - The Four Horsemen 37:44 - The Dive Down begins - Stan with Leaf-Crowned Visionary in Elves 56:22 - Shane with Vodalian Hexcatcher in Merfolk 1:15:47 - Dave with Rundvelt Hordemaster in Goblins 1:34:00 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: NRG Series Trial Weekend Minneapolis: https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/event/nrg-series-15000-trial-weekend-minneapolis-mn-2/ LMS Paris Data: https://twitter.com/mtg_data/status/1571942341631516672 GB Elves Modern: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5105536#paper Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5088823#paper Modern Merfolk: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5105541#paper Modern Goblins: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5073113#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 190: Domainaria & More: First Impressions of DMU

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2022 82:06


    This week it takes two to make a thing go right! And by two we me Dave and Shane. And by thing we mean podcast. This podcast. Stan is out this week, so Dave and Shane talk about early impressions of Pioneer and Modern with access to the powerful cards of Dominaria United. Topics covered include: Leyline Binding, Rundvelt Hordemaster, Boglins, Sheoldred, and more. Housekeeping: We Sent Out a Lot of Boxes The Dive Down: We Talk About a Lot of Cards Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:19 - Housekeeping 6:56 - An ultra-short Break Down 7:50 - The Dive Down begins: Leyline Binding 31:03 - Rundvelt Hordemaster 37:30 - Serra Paragon 39:40 - Yotia Declares War/The Elder Dragon War 42:27 - Voldalian Hexcatcher 44:00 - Dave only wears Russian Leather 48:15 - The MIA cards from Dominaria United 53:11 - Liliana of the Veil 58:28 - Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 1:07:04 - Phoenix Chick 1:10:22 - Jaya, Fiery Negotiator 1:13:11 - Pain lands 1:14:40 - Some final thoughts 1:19:39 - Closing out Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 189: NRG in STL & Dominaria United, pt 2 (ft Jesse Robkin & Aspiringspike)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2022 126:37


    Fresh of an amazing weekend at the NRG tournament in St. Louis, Jesse Robkin joins us to break down the Team Trios Trial and the Modern 5K. Then our old pal Aspiringspike drops in to go over the remaining cards from Dominaria United that have potential for constructed play. Jesse and team reached the finals of the NRG Team Trios Trial on Saturday, where she piloted Mono Green Devotion in the Pioneer seat. Then on Sunday, she pulled out her trusty Izzet Breach deck and made the finals again in the Modern 5K. She walks us through her touranments, lessons learned with the decks she played, and the overall metagame from the weekend's events. Then for the second half of the show, Evart Moughon AKA Aspiringspike drops in to wrap up our discussion of Dominaria United, now that the full spoiler is live. We go over the tribal lords, the white interaction, and more! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:17 - Housekeeping 5:06 - Introducing Jesse Robkin 9:35 - The NRG Team Trios event through Jesse's eyes 22:28 - The NRG Team Trios meta 27:32 - The finals winners 29:08 - Taking Izzet Breach to the finals of the 5k 35:48 - The 5K top 8 39:21 - Jesse's parting thoughts 42:48 - Well water woes 45:56 - Aspiringspike is back! 49:01 - Spike's thoughts on Modern 56:58 - The cards we're most excited about: Leyline Binding 1:07:56 - Aether Channeler 1:13:31 - Soul of Windgrace 1:18:25 - Founding the Third Path 1:23:48 - Balmor, Battlemage Captain 1:25:09 - Leafcrown Visionary 1:28:02 - Vodalian Hexcatcher 1:30:38 - Rundvelt Hordemaster 1:34:02 - Some cards we are excited for in Pioneer 1:44:53 - Temporary Lockdown and Karn's Sylex 1:47:43 - Good stuff for Pioneer or Modern if you're lucky: Serra Paragon 1:50:35 - Electrostatic Infantry 1:54:01 - Shore Up 1:55:54 - Ghitu Amplifier 1:58:38 - Academy Loremaster 2:00:23 - What we are excited for in Dominaria 2:03:55 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Find Jesse Robkin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tiddypills Find Aspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike Find Aspiringspike on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 188: Dominaria United Untied: Spoilers, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 105:19


    This week it's all about the first batch Dominaria United spoilers as Dave and Shane talk through what cards have caught our eye so far. How much of a lock is Temporary Lockdown? Does Cut Down make the cut? What other cards does Shane think aren't constructed worthy imo. imo bb. But before we get into all that we get a special RCQ report from Stan (still on vacation!) where he takes us through his last days of being a horn dog (and a top 8 finish!) in Green Bay. Dave and Shane also quickly check in on Frank Karsten's first pass at making sense of the modern meta. Part 1: Our Final Horndog Update... For Now? Part 2: A Frank Discussion About Modern Part 3: A Lockdown, A Sylex, & More Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:44 - Housekeeping 8:22 - Stan talks his final (???) RCQ 29:02 - Frank Karsten analyzes the Modern meta 45:40 - Previewing the NRG Team Trio event 50:58 - A touch of patchouli 53:54 - Dominaria United spoilers begin 58:06 - Tolarian Terror, Writhing Necromass, Urborg Lhurgoyf 1:03:53 - Temporary Lockdown 1:09:53 - Karn's Sylex 1:13:55 - Rundvelt Hordemaster 1:17:03 - Founding the Third Path 1:19:45 - Phoenix Chick 1:23:33 - Cult Conscript 1:25:20 - Jaya, Fiery Negotiator 1:30:05 - Cut Down 1:31:52 - Astor, Bearer of Blades 1:35:06 - Rona's Vortex 1:37:20 - Shivan Devastator 1:39:02 - Twinferno 1:41:20 - Raff, Weatherlight Stalwart 1:43:30 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Frank Karsten's Modern Meta Breakdown, 8/18: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/metagame-mentor-modern-roundup-august-2022 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 187: Liliana, Pain Lands, & Frank Karsten

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 88:49


    Our exciting first bit of Dominaria United spoilers are here, and the gang reacts to the addition of three new allied pain lands, Liliana of the Veil coming to Pioneer, and more. We also kick off the show with a Rhino tournament report from... Shane! The one and only took the deck out for his first Modern RCQ and did not disappoint us. Then we wrap up the episode with a discussion of a fascinating new article from our favorite Magic mathematician, Frank Karsten, who's latest foray into metagame reporting provides a new framework for deck and tournament analysis in the winner's metagame. Part 1: Shane Says Things About Rhinos Part 2: Stan Says Things Under Embargoes Part 3: Dave Says Things About Adjusting Wins Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:38 - Housekeeping 7:32 - Shane talks his RhinoCQ 42:03 - Early Dominaria United spoilers begin 44:45 - The mechanics of Dominaria 48:21 - The World Spell 53:08 - Liliana of the Veil is back! 1:03:26 - The painlands are also back! 1:11:36 - The Phasing of Zhalfir 1:13:07 - Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 1:16:02 - Frank Karsten is our new Metagame Mentor 1:27:21 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Shane's RCQ Rhinos deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5022278#paper Frank's Pioneer Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-pioneer-metagame-roundup-august-2022 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 186: These Ends Were Made for Living, ft. Chris Castro-Rappl

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2022 123:49


    CCR from MTG Grindcast joins us to talk about all things Living End. On the heels of his RCQ win with the deck, Chris helps us break down the cards, the sickest plays, how to beat common hate strategies, and more! In another classic deck dive and pseudo follow-up to our recent episode on Rhinos, we discuss why the two cascade decks are fundamentally different, even though they share a common core. Chris was the perfect guest for this episode, not only because he's a seasoned podcaster with excellent mic technique, but he's been mastering various shades of Living End for years before Modern Horizons 2 took it to the top of the metagame. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 5:54 - Housekeeping 10:10 - The Dive Down begins - Living End with CCR! 16:18 - How Living End works 19:38 - The construction of the deck 25:18 - The Cascade engine 30:10 - Using the Cyclers (and a discussion about graveyard hate) 44:20 - CCR's approach to post-board games 46:13 - Back to the Cyclers 49:59 - The Elementals 57:08 - The lands 59:08 - The sideboard 1:09:53 - Strategic tips n' tricks - when to cycle? 1:14:06 - Using Grief 1:21:05 - When to Violent Outburst 1:25:34 - Mulliganing 1:29:04 - Matchups and sideboarding - 4 Color 1:39:46 - Most creature-based decks 1:42:52 - Izzet Murktide 1:47:15 - Other big matchups 1:50:11 - Our overall thoughts on Living End 1:57:52 - Let's talk Chris! 2:01:51 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: https://twitter.com/CCR_Grindcast Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 185: It's-a Me, Yorion.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2022 102:31


    This week it's all about the NRG Championship Series event in Chicago. We dive deep into the data, the most popular decks, the sickest plays, and the cherished friendships that make an event like this possible. We go over the top 10 (or so) decks of the weekend, break down the overall metagame, talk with a few players from the floor of the tournament, and hear how Stan did in the swiss (spoiler: pretty well!). Intro: Number One Horn Player Meets Captain Cascade The Break Down: Pivots and Points Per Pilot The Break Down, 2: What Do We Think Now? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 4:23 - Housekeeping 9:04 - The Chicagoland NRG Modern 10k - Stan's tournament report 18:16 - The tournament meta report 24:50 - Stan talks to Zach Allen 34:21 - Stan talks to Jesse Robkin 41:25 - Back to the meta report 57:10 - Stan talks to Will Krueger 1:03:59 - More meta 1:14:22 - Beard talk 1:17:48 - Stan talks to Norman Cohen 1:29:37 - The top 8 1:33:38 - Cool Decks, Inc 1:37:11 - Parting thoughts Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 184: These Foots Were Made For Crashing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2022 111:35


    Temur Rhinos are craschading onto this week's show, in a classic deck dive into the midrangy combo deck. Plus a preview of the upcoming Nerd Rage Series Modern Trial in Mundelein! Stan's been playing a lot of Rhinos lately, and some recent discounts on Force of Negation finally got Shane to pull the trigger on buying the deck. So Dave said "let's do a deck dive!" and in the ensuing practice matches, we discovered an amazing thing... everyone loves playing this deck! We also kick off the episode with some metagame predictions and leaderboard check-in ahead of this weekend's Nerd Rage Series Modern Trial in Mundelein. The Break Down: NRG: Chicago Preview The Dive Down: A Deck We Can All Agree On The Dive Down, cont: Crashing in for the Win Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 1:38 - Housekeeping 6:58 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Modern 10k trial preview 11:48 - The potential NRG metagame 19:48 - What will the season leaders be playing? 23:00 - The Barbers of Seville 25:45 - The Dive Down begins - These Rhinos are Making me Crashy! 31:13 - What is this deck all about? 38:29 - The construction of the deck 42:14 - The interaction 50:50 - Additional threats and interaction 53:58 - Flex spots 58:43 - The sideboard 1:06:37 - Sweet plays and protips 1:10:44 - Keep or mull 1:16:14 - How to tempo your opponent out 1:24:16 - Buying yourself some time 1:28:15 - Matchups 1:37:03 - Sideboards 1:40:00 - Other Rhino variants 1:42:59 - Our takes on Rhinos 1:49:58 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The NRG Chicago Modern 10k: https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/event/nrg-series-15000-trial-weekend-chicagoland-il/ Crashing Footfalls: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4963081#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 183: We Tried: Innovations in Modern Creativity, E Tron, & Prowess

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2022 91:32


    It's another nice week to try new cards and decks in the wide world of Modern. Dave takes another stab at Indomitable Creativity with Gab Nassif's recent list, while Shane assembles a Tron of Eldrazi proportions with the latest prison shell. Meanwhile, Stan chases the dinosaur in search of turn 2 wins with Gruul Prowess. The Break Down: Stan Plays a RCQ The Dive Down: Dave Can't Direct Creativity The Dive Down, cont: Shane Accepts Any Kind of Tron The Dive Down, cont: Stan Finds No Quarter For Prowess Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 5:00 - Housekeeping 11:59 - The Break Down begins - Stan's RCQ 25:15 - The Nation succeeds 27:09 - Bonjour! 30:40 - The Dive Down begins - Dave talks Creativity 53:54 - Shane talks E/Prison Tron 1:12:45 - Stan talks Gruul Prowess 1:29:45 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: 4C Creativity: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4928222#paper Prison Tron: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4961701#paper Gruul Prowess: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/-0sQpLq8v Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 182: The Four Pillars of Modern (ft. Zach Allen)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2022 104:47


    The current top dog of the NRG Series leaderboard joins us to discuss all things Modern for all your RCQ preparation needs. Zach Allen returns for a conversation about the various types of 4C Yorion decks, the merits of Murktide's flex spots, the position of green creature combo decks, and his favorite ways to cascade right now. Sure you can play the best deck when you try to take down your Modern RCQ, but what is the best deck REALLY? Turns out, there might be more than one... And when you least expect it, surprise, a maindeck Emrakul! Ready for another suprise? Boom, you just lost to burn on turn 4 before your Omnath could even do anything. Tune in to hear how you too can win (as long as you play a good deck or figure out what beats the good decks). Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Get 8% off all your orders from Nerd Rage with code "Dive8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 7:05 — Housekeeping 8:58 — RCQs and what they are 11:04 — The Current Character of Modern 14:45 — An Overview: The Top 4 Decks of Modern 18:31 — Deck 1: Yorion Piles 38:28 — Deck 2: Cascade 49:04 — Deck 3: UR Ragavan Decks 1:05:08 — Deck 4: Yawgmoth 1:12:45 — The… Most Interesting… of the Rest 1:14:05 — Hammer Speculation 1:16:23 — UW Affinity Yorion/Urza Speculation 1:17:20 — Tameshi Combo 1:18:07 — Hammer Speculation, pt.2 1:22:40 — Creativity Speculation 1:23:47 — Amulet Titan 1:24:30 — Omnath Glimpse 1:26:01 — Last Thoughts on RCQs 1:27:38 — Can We Do This Unban Talk? 1:38:15 — Talking NRG 1:43:05 — Closing Out Links from this week's episode: twitter.com/a22en Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 181: The Synergies of Pioneer's Metagame, ft. Todd Anderson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2022 86:25


    Friend of the show and Pioneer aficionado Todd Anderson joins us this week to go over the top decks, up and comers, unsung heroes, and potential traps in the format. Mono-Green continues to reign supreme, but could Young Pyromancer put up a fight? We also look into the Mono-Green vs Rakdos matchup, how well control is positioned, what happened to Lotus Field, and more! This episode is high flying, fast talking, and really in depth... try to keep up! The Dive Down: Mono-Green Devotion The Dive Down, cont: Izzet Pyromancer The Dive Down, cont: The Other Ones Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code THEDIVEDOWN15 Timestamps: 2:13 - Housekeeping and a special announcement 7:31 - Hanging with the Todd Squad 19:02 - How does Pioneer function as a format? 25:13 - What's the best deck in the format? 30:50 - How do the best decks play against each other? 32:33 - What makes a strong Pioneer deck? 37:02 - What are underappreciated decks in Pio? 38:50 - Summer Fridays 42:25 - Thoughts on some other decks 46:45 - Preparing for a Pioneer RCQ 48:37 - Todd talks Izzet Pyromancer 55:29 - Are there any "trap" decks or cards, and why is Rakdos Midrange good? 1:02:24 - Is Mono-Green too good? 1:06:20 - Stan's Pioneer ban burns 1:12:51 - Revisiting Izzet Pyromancer 1:16:50 - Final verdict: How to approach a Pioneer RCQ 1:22:02 - Closing out with Todd Links from this week's episode: Todd on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Tandy Todd on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/tandy Todd on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TandyMTG Izzet Pyromancer: https://twitter.com/TandyMTG/status/1543230873222381568?s=20&t=fkQba52rNy8QU6XqKxl5MA Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 180: Life Lessons and Level Ups

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 94:03


    Though we do have some frustrations to air at the start of the show, we eventually turn it around to discuss the many ways Magic (the Gathering) has improved our lives. Then we take a brief trip down memory lane to remember how some people improved our Magic playing skills too. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code THEDIVEDOWN15 Timestamps: 7:38 - Housekeeping 12:32 - The Dive Down begins 14:28 - Leveling up in Magic - Have a plan 29:06 - Having a collective 75 cards 39:51 - Stan on mulligans 45:23 - Do the math 52:47 - Sometimes the best deck isn't for you 59:29 - Don't be ROTty 1:15:35 - The latest Barrister & Mann releases 1:18:43 - Don't tilt 1:29:26 - Appreciate community Links from this week's episode: Limited Resources Episode 57: Tilt Less Win More: https://lrcast.com/limited-resources-57-tilt-less-win-more/ Collins' Tweet: https://twitter.com/collinsmullen/status/1540050234788683779?s=20&t=43m5QektO51r128fOWp3Cw Mason's Tweet: https://twitter.com/masoneclark/status/1539653313335263232?s=21&t=JSJTZV16R3pkSgOUOw8nQ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 179: 10 Takes on Modern, Pioneer, & Magic

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2022 99:31


    What can Izzet decks in Pioneer play instead of Expressive Iteration? How crazy was the MOCS meta from the weekend? Is Glimpse of Tomorrow a good card in Modern? This week's show answers these questions and more in a format-spanning Dive Down of takes hot and cold. But first, off the top we deliver a little announcement about the future of The Dive Down (nothing big, we swear — but you should listen). Shane doesn't even need Nykthos. Stan can quit cascading any time he wants to. Dave actually seems to get mad about something. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 10:01 - Housekeeping 13:11 - 1a: Expressive Iteration isn't irreplaceable in Pioneer 19:51 - 1b: EI in Izzet Control 25:52 - 1c: EI in Izzet Phoenix 30:42 - 2: Mono-Green Devotion is good, even without Nykthos 35:57 - 3: Mono-Blue Spirits is solidifying itself, but for how long? 43:44 - 4: Humans might be underexplored in Pio 49:25 - 5: What is there to like, and not like, about Pioneer? 1:02:45 - #smellovision 1:05:14 - 6: The MOCS final 1:17:00 - 7: Stan plays Calibrated Blast 1:21:59 - 8: Stan plays Glimpse Elementals Cascade 1:28:25 - 9: The sad loss of random playables 1:32:52 - 10: Stan plays... Commander? 1:37:47 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: MOCS Modern Decks: https://magic.gg/decklists/2022-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-1-modern-decklists Stan plays Commander on Brainstorm Brewery: https://www.twitch.tv/brainstormbrewery Mono-Green Devotion: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-green-ramp-2d53d633-2a78-4eb9-a5e7-52ad849c7a82#paper Mono-Blue Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-blue-spirits#paper Pioneer Humans: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4895735#paper Calibrated Blast: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-calibrated-blast#paper Glimpse Elementals: https://twitter.com/GR_DONKIN/status/1537259984702124032 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 178: NRG Modern & Pio: Is 4c 2 Good 4 U?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2022 93:48


    It's a hot one on The Dive Down this week. We take a deep look at NRG's recent set of Modern and Pioneer Trials in Lansing, Michigan and tackle the big questions about our favorite formats. Is 4c too good for Modern? What can even be done if it is too good? What's happened to Pioneer without Winota and Expressive Iteration? How many words can the three of us get beeped out in one episode? And more! Stan fights through jet lag and still brings the insights. Shane loves talking about bad decks that performed badly. And, finally, Dave gets his comeuppance. The Break Down: An Intro for Our Times The Break Down: NRG Modern: A Format With Great Playstyle Diversity The Break Down: NRG Pioneer: No Alarms and No Surprises, Please Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 4:30 - Housekeeping 6:15 - The NRG Lansing Event 9:40 - The NRG Modern overall metagame 15:39 - The Top 64 meta 36:10 - The Top 8 39:07 - Is 4-Color too good? 54:45 - Stan's back, and he smells good 57:30 - The NRG Pioneer metagame 1:02:33 - How the good Pioneer decks performed 1:21:20 - What decks didn't do well? 1:26:30 - The Top 8 1:28:47 - Even more thoughts on Pioneer 1:32:02 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: NRG Modern $10k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9604 NRG Pioneer: $5k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9605 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 177: Ban Reacts, a Dream Hacked, & Some Mid Rakdos

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2022 136:34


    Shane and Dave are totally blindsided by this week's Pioneer bans — especially since they happened after we recorded this ep. But don't worry, we use the power of technology to travel into the past and add a segment of hot reactions and speculation on what's next for Pio. After that, we continue with our regularly scheduled episode breaking down the Modern $10k at DreamHack Dallas and diving into Pioneer's most mid deck — Rakdos Mid! Shane hates all the creatures. Dave loves all the spells. Stan loves having a week off. The Break Down: A Record Scratched — Surprise Pioneer Bans The Break Down: A Modern $10K Where Mill 7-0-1'd The Dive Down: A 14% Meta Share Deck that Wasn't Banned Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 4:55 - Housekeeping 9:28 - The Break Down begins - SURPRISE it's some Pioneer bans! 23:18 - What is the impact on Pioneer? 29:16 - The Dallas Dreamhack Modern 10k 31:34 - The top 64 breakdown 41:08 - The top 8 53:51 - Cool Decks, Inc. 1:06:50 - Scent of the Day 1:12:20 - The Dive Down begins - Rakdos Midrange in Pioneer 1:16:02 - What's the deal with Midrange? 1:20:07 - Hand disruption 1:32:45 - Removal 1:41:08 - Creatures 1:57:11 - Planeswalkers 2:06:15 - Strengths and weaknesses 2:14:49 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Dreamhack Modern 10k down in Dallas: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/10457 Rakdos Midrange in Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-rakdos-midrange#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 176: The People's Meta(s): Modern and Pioneer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2022 114:51


    This week the three friends dive into an examination of not one but two metas — Modern and Pioneer — using some recent 5-0 league decks. We collect em, dissect em, and... tierect (???)... em. You know what we mean... we're placing them into groups and discussing what decks we think are going up, down, and sideways. Dave tries to run through Modern quickly. Stan and Shane dilly dally and then get mad when we don't have as much time as we'd hoped for Pioneer. Dave resists the urge to say I told you so. Please note/CW: this episode starts with a message of a serious nature from the team. Start at Housekeeping if you'd like to skip. The Dive Down: The People's Meta: Modern! The Dive Down, pt.2: The People's Meta: Pioneer! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 5:23 - Housekeeping 11:20 - The People's Meta - Modern ed. 16:20 - The mainstream decks of Modern 52:12 - Outside the Modern mainstream 1:09:40 - The People's Meta - Pioneer ed. 1:37:00 - Outside the Pio mainstream 1:43:30 - Some takes on Pioneer 1:53:25 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Modern League 5/27: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-league-2022-05-27#paper Why it is time to cut Murktide Regent by Michael Rapp: https://blog.cardkingdom.com/why-it-is-time-to-cut-murktide-regent/ Pioneer League 5/23: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-league-2022-05-23#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 175: Sleeve/Believe/Heave: Streets of New Capenna Edition

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2022 112:44


    The three friends are taking it back to the streets on more time. This week we evaluate three different decks that were improved or created by the addition of SNC to our formats. Shane pods his way through a Naya deck full of combos in Modern. Stan shreds his way through infinite turns in Modern. Dave explains so he's falling short of virtuosity in Explorer. It's a real journey through a few more cards making an impact. Before that, though, we break down the top 8 of NRG Minneapolis where three other friends (of the pod) take the whole thing down. The Break Down: NRG Minneapolis The Dive Down: Combos in Modern! The Dive Down, pt.2: Prowess in Explorer! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 6:06 - Housekeeping 8:34 - The Break Down - The NRG Team Tournament 11:06 - The Top 8 teams 33:34 - The Top 8 meta 41:45 - It's Soap Time 44:56 - The Dive Down begins - Shane on Naya Combos in Modern 51:45 - The strenghts of the deck 55:08 - The weaknesses of the deck 1:08:55 - Shane's final thoughts 1:12:04 - Stan on Dimir Asmo Food Combo in Modern 1:22:50 - How to turn 3 combo 1:26:16 - Sideboarding with combo decks is hard 1:32:45 - Stan's final thoughts 1:34:48 - Dave on Boros Aggro in Explorer 1:45:27 - Dave's final thoughts 1:49:32 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Modern Naya Combos: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4818579#paper Modern Dimir Asmo Food: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-asmo-food#paper Modern Boros Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4841502#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 174: Explorer's First Ban & More Pioneer Testing

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2022 106:16


    This week's episode starts with Dave telling a shaggy dog story while fumbling through the Seinfeld theme on his bass — so you know it's going to be a loose one. Fortunately, Shane and Stan quickly bring the three friends back on track (within the first 4 minutes, we swear) and take us all through Winota's ban in Explorer, four different challenges across Modern and Pioneer, and finally some of their testing results with Winota and Izzet Phoenix in Pioneer. Stan rolls to a non-interactive 4-1. Shane can't stop shreddin. Dave can't stop slappin the bass. The Break Down, I: Winota's Gone in Explorer! The Break Down, II: Kicking Bass in a Bunch of Challenges The Dive Down: Winota's Here in Pioneer! So is Phoenix! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15" Timestamps: 5:40 - Housekeeping 8:46 - The Break Down begins - The first Explorer bans 17:11 - Saturday's Pioneer Challenge 28:49 - Sunday's Pioneer Challenge 35:30 - Cool Decks, Inc - Pioneer ed. 38:48 - Saturday's Modern Challenge 46:23 - Sunday's Modern Challenge 52:26 - Public Smelling Stories 55:58 - The Dive Down - Stan's hot takes on Winota 1:00:16 - Fable of the Mirror breaker is a protection spell 1:04:00 - Esika's Chariot = Splinter Twin 1:06:58 - Deck mull good 1:09:25 - Enablers are good 1:12:05 - Modern vs. Pioneer gameplay discussion 1:20:05 - Shane casts blue and red cards 1:34:00 - Shane's thoughts on Izzet Phoenix in Explorer 1:41:56 - Stan cracks a pack 1:44:35 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: May 11 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/may-11-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement Saturday's Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12418751#paper Sunday's Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12418755#paper Saturday's Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12418748#paper Sunday's Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12418754#paper Naya Winota in Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4818484#paper Izzet Phoenix in Explorer: https://mtgazone.com/explorer-izzet-phoenix-deck-guide/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 173: Do You Even Shred, Tho?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2022 103:58


    The boys flap their little wings and scream caw caw as they dig their beaks into the hottest bird lawyer in Magic this week. Whether it's ripping up contracts, filtering hands, shouting 'objection!' or pumping flyers, Ledger Shredder does it all. But does it have what it take to be a multiformat staple? Yes, apparently yes. The Break Down: Living End Won't Die The Dive Down: New Bird Learns to Fly The Dive Down, cont: Filling Graveyards Can Be Sly Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:02 - Housekeeping 5:56 - The Break Down - The Modern Showcase Challenge 6:54 - The Top 32 breakdown 10:25 - The Top 8 16:44 - Cool Decks, Inc - Modern edition 25:17 - The Pioneer Showcase Challenge 38:55 - Cool Decks, Inc - Pioneer Edition 41:53 - #Sponsored 45:16 - The Dive Down - Do You Even Shred? 52:03 - Why is Ledger Shredder good? 1:11:24 - Ledger Shredder in Explorer/Pioneer 1:27:55 - Ledger Shredder in Modern 1:41:42 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: The Modern Showcase: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2022-05-08?xd28 The Pioneer Showcase: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2022-05-09 Izzet Flyers: https://tinyurl.com/izzetflyers Esper Greasefang: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4806004#paper Esper Reanimator: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/ledger-shredder-reanimator-decklist-by-kanister-mtg-1365778 Grixis Death's Shadow: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/3m-EJaUSq Grinding Breach: https://twitter.com/tiddypills/status/1523323490866192386?s=20&t=6DB3Mg4lDJQPdZ54ohn7BA Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 172: Exploring the Streets of New Capenna

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2022 113:04


    Our three friends begin their visit to the Streets of New Capenna with some Explorer, Pioneer, and Modern decks. We take a look at Ob Nixilis, The Adversary and Stan's uncharacteristic BW Blink brew with Getaway Car and Extraction Specialist. The Break Down: New Cards in Pio + Modern Challenges The Dive Down: 20 Mostly Good Minutes on Mob Nixilis Stuff We Forgot: We'll Talk About Ledger Shredder Next Week, Ok? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 3:17 - Housekeeping 11:17 - The Break Down begins - The Pioneer Challenge! 32:09 - Pioneer Cool Decks, Inc 40:16 - The Modern Challenge! 47:05 - Modern Cool Decks, Inc 58:20 - Stan's Razor Digression 1:02:37 - The Dive Down begins - The decks of New Capenna 1:05:55 - Rakdos Midrange in Explorer 1:15:30 - Evaluating Ob Nixilis, the Adversary 1:32:38 - More thoughts on Explorer 1:40:45 - Stan's Pioneer experiments 1:51:15 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4774204#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 171: 6 Ways You Can Get Better at Magic

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2022 112:41


    In a special patron-requested episode, our three friends provide a roadmap to improvement for key Magic skills and other useful habits. We also kick off the show with run downs and reactions to the latest Magic Arena announcements for Explorer and Pioneer. Huge thanks to Codi for supporting our show at the esteemed Double-Sided Diamond Dust Rare level, which has earned them the coveted opportunity to select an episode topic for the show. The Break Down: An Explorer Exposition Dump The Dive Down: Getting Better at Magic: Stan Proposes Practice The Dive Down, 2: Getting Better at Magic: Dave and Shane Reject Practice Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:28 - Housekeeping 7:30 - The Break Down - Explorer! 18:16 - How are we feeling? 26:05 - The potential decks of Explorer 32:35 - What are we playing in Explorer? 34:40 - An artistic diversion 37:57 - The Dive Down - How to get better at Magic 39:39 - 1) Play more Magic 42:20 - 2) Play both sides of the battlefield 49:42 - 2a) Do the math 1:03:24 - 3) Identify the decks you excel at 1:10:38 - 4) Mulligan better 1:22:15 - 5) Treat your games as experiments 1:41:49 - 6) Get feedback on your play 1:48:00 - Some conclusions Links from this week's episode: The announcement of Explorer: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-streets-new-capenna-2022-04-21 PVDDR's Best plays in Magic history: https://pvddr.substack.com/p/the-best-plays-in-the-history-of?s=w Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 170: Who Runs the Streets of New Capenna?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 108:15


    The full set of New Capenna has been revealed, so on this week's show we complete our run through of all the cards in the set. We go through the families, argue about how good Luxior is going to be (or not be), try to avoid taking an endless detour as we speculate about Giada, and wonder if there's a shadow of a chance that Shadow of Mortality has what it takes. But before that, we spend some time looking through recent Pioneer results with a focus on Izzet Control. The Break Down: It's Back: Two Pioneer Challenges The Dive Down: Dave Proposes Cards The Dive Down, pt.2: Stan and Shane Reject Cards Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 3:45 - Housekeeping 7:10 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer challenges are back! 10:16 - 4/16 Challenge metagame 10:40 - Izzet Control 18:05 - Mono-G Ramp 22:10 - 4/16 Top 8 and Mono-W Devotion 25:55 - Mono-U Spirits 28:22 - The 4/17 Challenge 34:26 - Some Pioneer thoughts 44:08 - A smelly interlude 47:21 - The Dive Down begins - more Capenna spoilers! 49:17 - Luxior, Giada's Gift 57:47 - Endless Detour 1:02:58 - Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer 1:07:12 - Void Rend 1:10:52 - Urabrask, Heretic Praetor 1:14:27 - Shadow of Mortality 1:20:56 - Patch Up 1:23:10 - An Offer You Can't Refuse 1:25:10 - Unlicensed Hearse 1:29:48 - Giada, Font of Hope 1:33:04 - Tenacious Underdog 1:35:34 - Titan of Industry 1:36:50 - Boon of Safety 1:38:50 - Against the Odds: Aven Heartstabber, Tainted Indulgence 1:42:53 - What cards we want to cast most? 1:46:34 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: 4/16 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12409669#paper 4/17 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12409673#paper Faithless Looting's Epic Luxior Thread: https://twitter.com/FaithlessMTG/status/1513621542097334277?s=20&t=O0MEhNqOBhkhOWCMN6D_xA Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 169: The Families of New Capenna and Old Fort Worth

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2022 108:08


    The Dive Down visits sunny Texas for SCGCON Dallas! We chat about our very first free preview card from Streets of New Capenna, other highlights from the set so far, and our experiences playing paper Magic all weekend. The Break Down: Move Shane Get Out Da Way The Dive Down: Cards in Shards The Wind Down: The Fort Worth Main Street Arts Festival Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 3:08 - Housekeeping 7:13 - Our preview card - Out of the Way! 16:07 - The first batch of New Capenna spoilers 16:42 - The common lands 18:31 - Sorry, weird audio glitch! An Offer You Can't Refuse 23:28 - Strangle 26:44 - Grisly Sigil 30:04 - Unlucky Witness 33:21 - A Little Chat 35:31 - Gala Greeters 39:39 - Make Disappear/Rob the Archives 42:54 - Brokers Charm 44:39 - Disciplined Duelist 47:15 - Devilish Valet 49:49 - Mage's Attendant 51:50 - Evolving Door 53:32 - Ob Nixilis, the Adversary 59:30 - Professional Face-Breaker 1:01:31 - Vivien on the Hunt 1:03:58 - Elspeth, Resplendent 1:06:39 - Cut Your Losses 1:08:14 - The Dive Down begins: Our SCGCon Dallas experiences 1:09:32 - Shane and Stan talk FAB, Pioneer, and Modern 1:28:41 - The Dive Down, cont: Dave talks Modern 1:35:22 - Shane and Stan talk Pioneer 1:41:15 - The Modern 30k Meta Links from this week's episode: Our Spoiler video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AymuqSbd80U Streets of New Capenna Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/snc?as=grid&order=spoiled The Modern 30k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9196 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 168: A Pre-Travel, Post-Lurrus Meta Deep Dive

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2022 101:31


    The gang is reunited this week for an episode full of new cards, pivot tables, and tournament surprises. We start off with our initial reactions to the new charms spoiled from Streets of New Capenna, and imagine the impact of the complete triome cycle on our favorite formats. Then we go over the results of March's Modern metagame, the Manatraders Modern tournament, and the latest NRG results to analyze the growing and shrinking popularity of various decks in a post-Lurrus metagame. Finally, we wrap up with a Wind Down of our plans for SCG Con Dallas. Turns out... it's technically in Fort Worth! The Break Down: Greetings from New Capena The Dive Down: Greetings from Fort Wayne The Wind Down: Greetings from Dallas/Fort Worth Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:59 - Housekeeping 8:50 - We're getting a preview card! 10:59 - Streets of New Capenna early spoilers - The Triomes 18:24 - The Charms - Obscura Charm 22:35 - Maestro's Charm 25:52 - Riveteers Charm 29:23 - Cabaretti Charm 33:03 - The Dive Down begins - March's metagame report 33:30 - The top decks 39:48 - The top cards 43:22 - The most winning decks 46:51 - The NRG Modern 20k 48:30 - The NRG meta 55:50 - The winrates 1:05:55 - The top 8 1:10:15 - The Manatraders Modern event swiss meta 1:14:20 - The best decks of Manatraders 1:17:20 - The top 8 1:23:05 - The Wind Down begins - SCGCon Dallas 1:28:57 - What we are playing in Dallas 1:39:55 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Streets of New Capenna spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/snc?as=grid&order=spoiled The NRG tournament: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/8591 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 167: The Pro Tour Returns! ft. Dom Harvey

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2022 113:19


    This week Dave got lost in a cave while vacationing, so Dom Harvey joins the show to react and contextualize Wizard's official announcement that the Pro Tour is back! We break down the new competitive organized play systems, how it fits into the casual spike lifestyle, and how it supports Magic's highest level players. We warm up with a break down of some wild weekend top 8s. The Dive Down: Enter the Pyramid The Dive Down, cont: The Road to Regionals The Dive Down, cont: The Life of a World Champion Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 1:55 - Dom's Housekeeping 7:57 - Housekeeping 10:32 - The Break Down begins: The Super Qualifier 24:07 - The Showcase Challenge 40:53 - Cool Decks, Inc - Rakdos Midrange "Blink" 43:56 - The Dive Down begins: The Pro Tour is back! 51:29 - The World Championship 57:21 - Regional Championships and Qualifiers 1:17:41 - The Pro Tour itself 1:27:24 - How do we feel about this? 1:37:58 - What goals can people have now? 1:46:42 - What's missing? 1:50:22 - Find Dom online and closing out Links from this week's episode: Find Dom online: https://linktr.ee/domhrv The Return of the Pro Tour!: https://magic.gg/news/return-of-the-pro-tour-faq Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Bonus 19: Probably Better Known As ft. Saffron Olive

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2022 66:24


    Dave and Stan meet Saffron Olive from MTG Goldfish, and talk about Seth's sleep schedule, his MTG origins, and how the deck names in MTG Goldfish get fixed. Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Links from this week's episode: www.mtggoldfish.com https://twitter.com/saffronolive Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes most Sunday nights at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 166: All Shadow, No Doubt (ft. Michael Rapp)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2022 106:05


    This week, Shane's on vacation and Stan's late so Dave gets to do whatever he wants. And what he's decided is to check in with friend of the show and certified shadow scientist Michael Rapp about where everyone's avatar is headed these days. That's right, it's time for a deep dive on (mostly) Grixis Death's Shadow (along with a few other things). But first, we chat about Michael's recent trip to Indy and break down the Modern meta there. The Break Down: Shane's Gone, Stan's Late The Dive Down: Why Street Wraith is a Bad Card Now The Dive Down (pt.2): Shadow, Prepared Three Ways Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 2:45 - Break Down Begins: Michael's Team at SCG Con Indianapolis 8:50 - Indianopolis Top 6 Begins 24:43 - The Indianapolis Modern Metagame 38:50 - How Michael's Team Prepared for Indy 44:19 - Dive Down Begins: Michael's Relationship with Death's Shadow 50:09 - The Lurrus Era of Shadow 56:27 - The First Weekend after Lurrus Was Banned 1:02:15 - The "Stock" Grixis Shadow Deck 1:15:3 - An Ode to Dress Down 1:20:00 - GDS, Still Hard to Play 1:25:35 - Murktide Shadow 1:33:27 - Mardu Shadow 1:37:39 - Jund Shadow 1:42:35 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Michael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/RappaciousOne Michael's recent article on the Card Kingdom Blog (includes write-ups and decklists): https://blog.cardkingdom.com/the-rumors-of-deaths-shadows-demise-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/ All Articles: https://blog.cardkingdom.com/author/mrapp2/ Discord server: https://discord.gg/wYCx6N4 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 165: The People's Meta: Life After Lurrus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2022 121:28


    We are back with the second installment of The People's Meta! With Lurrus gone, and the first big paper tournament happening in the Hunter Burton Memorial Open, there's no time like the present to take a look at what's happening in Modern. We categorize and talk about every deck in a recent 5-0 League dump and break down what's changing in the wide open world of Magic Online. We then take some time to look at the paper metagame of the HBMO, examine what's changing, and take a gander at what did well down in Texas. The Break Down: Dave Breaks Down The Break Down, pt.2: Dave Dissects a Dump The Break Down, pt.3: The 2022 HBMO Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 7:10 - Housekeeping 12:00 - The Break Down - The Post-Lurrus meta 14:35 - Death's Shadow decks 26:58 - Murktide 28:54 - Hammertime 30:05 - Blink 37:34 - Amulet Titan 42:56 - RBx Midrange 52:32 - Burn/Prowess 56:23 - Control 1:00:10 - Cascade 1:01:04 - Creativity 1:03:10 - Dredge 1:06:05 - Hardened Scales 1:11:50 - Creature Combo decks 1:16:55 - Prowess 1:18:50 - Midrange 1:21:35 - Humans and others 1:25:13 - Tron and others 1:31:55 - Combo junk drawer 1:34:55 - Other oddities 1:38:15 - Mono-Red Stuff 1:42:15 - The Hunter Burton Memorial Open 1:43:45 - The HBMO meta 1:47:10 - The Day 2 meta 1:50:30 - The Top 8 1:54:03 - What did we learn? 1:59:49 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The 3/11 Deck Dump: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-league-2022-03-11#paper The Hunter Burton Memorial Open: https://hunterburtonmemorialopen.com/ Decklists and standings from HBMO: https://www.hbpairings.com/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Bonus 18: How to Win a Pro Tour ft. Eli Kassis

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2022 49:02


    Shane and Stan sit down with the newly crowned Neon Dynasty Set Champion, Eli Kassis! We talk about Eli's deck selection and preparation for the Set Championship, the role of a testing team, and more. Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Links from this week's episode: https://twitter.com/Eli_Kassis Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 164: The Dream(-Den) is Over

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2022 107:23


    Well they finally went and did it. Wizards of the Coast (kinda) surprised the entire Magic Non-Rotating Format World by sending everyone's favorite Nightmare Cat back to her den to think about what's she's done. In case that previous sentence isn't clear, I'm trying to say that they banned Lurrus of the Dream-Den in Modern and Pioneer. After (tearfully) throwing away an entire month of episodes we had planned out before this news, the three friends gather their composure and do what you pay (or don't pay) them to do — make predicitions about what will happen in Magic and just generally react to the news. Stan seems excited for Murktide. Dave seems excited for Obosh. Shane seems excited for things to stay mostly the same. The Break Down: What Happened The Dive Down: What We Think Will Happen The Wind Down: What We Hope Will Happen Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:48 - Housekeeping 7:39 - The Break Down - Bye Bye Lurrus 8:43 - The rationales of the banning 22:10 - Did this go far enough? 31:24 - What's the impact of the Lurrus ban? 40:02 - Some hot takes 42:35 - A smelly diversion 45:50 - Stan's Monthly Meta Report 54:28 - The impact of losing Lurrus for the best decks 1:17:36 - The month-to-month change since Jan 1:19:58 - What the loss of Lurrus unlocks - Liliana(s) 1:25:56 - Seasoned Pyromancer 1:28:20 - Bedlam Reveler 1:30:09 - Lightning Skelemental 1:31:38 - Nettlecyst 1:32:40 - Asmo 1:33:43 - Plague Engineer 1:34:59 - Ranger-Captain of Eos 1:38:03 - Showdown of the Skalds 1:39:03 - Grist 1:39:41 - General Ferrous Rockerick 1:40:18 - What does Jund look like now? 1:43:14 - Dark Confidant 1:44:21 - Our final thoughts Links from this week's episode: The B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/march-7-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 163: Talking Magic in Trying Times

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2022 105:13


    It's been a trying week. We needed a break. So this week, we're going to keep it positive by taking some time to discuss what we've been enjoying in Magic and beyond. It's a bit of a grab bag — we talk about the MOCS, Slogurk, Creativity, Oni-Cult, paper magic, hanging with Stan, hanging with Shane, and more. Stan gets a trophy. Dave loses creatively. Shane finds a deck he thinks is cool. We'll also be donating the proceeds of this week's episode to Trans Lifeline (https://translifeline.org/) and the UN Refugee Agency (https://www.unhcr.org/). The Break Down: Good Things in MOCS The Dive Down: Good Things in Modern The Dive Down, pt2: Good Things in Magic Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 5:39 - Housekeeping 9:41 - The Break Down: The MOCS 15:29 - What makes GDS so good? 21:36 - The power of Lurrus 29:29 - Saturday's Modern Challenge 34:12 - The top 8 38:40 - The Super Qualifier top 8 42:40 - Are we banning Lurrus? 46:00 - A brief diversion 48:52 - The Dive Down begins - Stan likes Standard 54:10 - Dave plays Limited 1:00:31 - A mini deck tech on Aspiringspike's Rakdos Anvil in Modern 1:09:41 - Other Aspiringspike thoughts on Modern 1:11:20 - Stan 5-0's with Temur Slogurk 1:19:38 - Dave playing Indominatable Creativity 1:28:10 - Stan getting better at Magic 1:35:25 - Non-Magic things that bring us joy 1:43:40 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The MOCS: https://magic.gg/events/2021-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-3 Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12392345#paper The PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-super-qualifier-12392317#paper Spike's Oni-Cult VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlf1Ay6bWI&ab_channel=Aspiringspike Stan's Slogurk Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4647667#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 162: Sleeve/Believe/Heave: Neon Dynasty pt.2 Ed.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 104:05


    Turns out that sleevin' neon is so fun we had to do it for a second week. So here it is — three or four or maybe more new decks that feature cards from Neon Dynasty including Modern Assault Loam with Boseiju (and Slogurk!), Modern Death & Taxes with Boseiju, Pioneer Auras with Light-Paws, and Pioneer Burn with Reinforced Ronin. But before we state them and rate them, we first go through last weekend's Modern Showcase Challenge and discover many shades of innovation in... red... and... white? Dave has boeuf sweats. Stan believes it's slime time now. Shane plays a deck he hates... again. The Break Down: A Spicy Showcase The Dive Down: Boseiju Loam, Boseiju Taxes, Light-Paws, Pio Burn, and Others The Wind Down: 5 Minutes about Shane and Flesh and Blood Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 3:32 - Housekeeping 6:40 - The Break Down: Modern Challenge Funtime 21:03 - The top 8 31:10 - A small diversion 34:50 - The Dive Down begins: S/B/H, Cool Cards Ed. 36:45 - Stan on Slogurk Oozing time 51:10 - Stan on Liquimetal Ponza 54:13 - Shane on Selesnya Taxes ft. Yorion 1:11:51 - Dave on Light-Paws Auras 1:28:35 - Shane on Shrapnel Blast Burn 1:34:35 - Shane's Flesh and Blood ProQuest 1:41:25 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Modern Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2022-02-20 Temur Slogurk: Assault Loam: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4614095#paper Temur Liquidmetal Ponza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4616201#paper Selesnya Taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4621930#paper Light-Paws Auras: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4620131#paper and https://twitter.com/masoneclark/status/1493478580940156928?s=20&t=UEobUZhWlLmEQeVdwxQbZQ Ronin Burn: https://twitter.com/FelixSloo/status/1492313643962281989?t=blBSVeie85VXmdWpiRgErw&s=19 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 161: Sleeve/Believe/Heave: Fun With Artifacts ed.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 104:52


    Turns out that Neon Dynasty may have had a little more impact on our formats than we originally anticipated. The reason why? Why, it's (mostly) thanks to Magic's favorite no-downside card type: Artifacts. Tune in as we try out builds of Urzaful/Urzaless Affinity and UW Hammer in Modern, Vehicle Tribal in Historic, and a whole new Ensoul Artifact build in Pioneer. But first, we take a look across 3 high level Modern MTGO events from the weekend. Dave asks for forgiveness. Shane withholds a harsh judgement. Stan gets chipped. The Break Down: Not many NEO cards in the Challenges The Dive Down: NEO cards in Leagues: Vehicles, Affinity, and Ensoul The Dive Down, cont: Stan's New Love: 4-0in' Prelims Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 2:56 - Housekeeping 7:30 - The Break Down begins - Saturday's Challenge with NEW cards! 18:13 - The Sunday Challenge 25:25 - The Modern PTQ 30:25 - Some tournament takeaways 35:34 - A fun diversion 38:10 - The Dive Down begins - S/B/H Artifacts Ed. 40:20 - Shane with Historic Vehicles 57:02 - Dave on Modern Affinity 1:09:44 - Dave on Modern Vehicles 1:18:04 - Stan on Azorius Hammertime 1:31:34 - Stan on Ensoul Artifact 1:40:55 - Oni-Cult Anvil, briefly 1:43:15 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12387446#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12387452#paper Sunday's PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-premier-12387425#paper Historic Vehicles: https://twitter.com/jaredfarris/status/1491972071404052481?s=20&t=ITEHIewCd0CHmRVSBee6Xg Spike's Consulate Dreadnaught Affinity: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/ou3s6zIwy SpiderSpace Affinity: https://twitter.com/SpiderSpaceMTG/status/1492623539773394944?s=20&t=qGj6nPhmn6AhDrLdDAknNw Azorius Hammertime: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4613330#paper Pioneer Ensoul Artifact: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4614011#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 160: A Dynasty of Neon Spoilers, Vol. 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 108:02


    In the epic conclusion of our Neon Dynasty picks to click, we scan the complete set spoiler and shout out our favorite dragon, counterspell, samurai, and skyturtle. Before that, we kick off the show with break down of January's Modern MTGO metagame with another installment of the monthly report, and wrap up with a brief love letter to Legacy. The Break Down: Monthly Modern Metagame: January The Dive Down: Mode Cards Than You Could Ever Reconfigure The Wind Down: Stan's New Love: Legacy Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:19 - Housekeeping 9:00 - The Break Down: The January Meta Breakdown 23:40 - The most popular cards of January 30:46 - The Dive Down: Neon Dynasty spoilers! 32:43 - Blade of the Oni 36:52 - Eater of Virtue 38:34 - Mnemonic Sphere 41:39 - March of Burgeoning Life 44:48 - Colossal Skyturtle/Mirrorshell Crab 46:41 - Otawara, Soaring City 49:21 - Atsushi, the Blazing Sky 52:45 - Mukotai Soulripper 54:44 - Invoke the Ancients 56:44 - Reinforced Ronin 1:00:25 - Hidetsugu Consumes All 1:05:43 - Experimental Synthesizer 1:08:08 - Enthusiastic Mechanaut 1:09:40 - Mech Hanger/Greasefang, Okiba Boss 1:13:09 - March of Wretched Sorrow 1:14:30 - Containment Construct 1:18:11 - Silverfur Master 1:19:45 - Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice 1:22:42 - March of Swirling Mist 1:25:27 - Mechtitan Core 1:27:52 - Explosive Singularity 1:30:12 - Generous Visitor 1:31:20 - Disruption Protocol 1:33:56 - Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire/Takenuma, Abandoned Mire 1:38:09 - What are we most excited to play with? 1:40:55 - The Wind Down: Stan

    Episode 159: A Dynasty of Neon Spoilers, Vol. 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 98:59


    It's time to head back to Kamigawa in the latest set... our Neon Destiny. I mean Density. I mean Dynasty. We take a look at cards from the first batch of spoilers we think are good in Modern, Historic, Pioneer, or just plain good! Before that, we break down the ManaTraders January Pioneer tournament. Intro: Green Socks Filled With Money The Break Down: Closing the Book on Pioneer The Dive Down: You're My Density Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 2:23 - Housekeeping 8:02 - The Break Down - Manatraders Pioneer January! 17:32 - The Top 8 and our thoughts on Pio 28:00 - The Dive Down begins - the mechanics of Kamigawa 39:07 - Let's talk cards! Boseju, Who Endures 50:28 - Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance 53:00 - Lion Sash 59:40 - The Reality Chip 1:04:26 - The Wandering Emperor 1:12:08 - Invoke Calamity 1:16:06 - March of Otherworldly Light 1:20:53 - Azusa's Many Journeys 1:23:58 - Secluded Courtyard 1:26:10 - Hotshot Mechanic 1:27:33 - "Procession of Joy" 1:31:19 - Lizard Blades 1:32:28 - Life of Toshiro Umezawa 1:35:11 - Mooncircuit Hacker 1:36:40 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The decks and metagame of the ManaTraders Pioneer Tournament: https://pastebin.com/A6P4Dzs9 The Mechanics of Neon Dynasty: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/kamigawa-neon-dynasty-mechanics-2022-01-27 Neon Dynasty spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/neo?order=set&as=grid Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 158: We Thought There Would Be Bans, ft. SpiderSpace

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2022 109:07


    With Dave off this week, we are joined by streamer, former guest, and co-host of Mishra's Babble, SpiderSpace! In the Break Down we talk about the (lack of) bans in Modern, then dive deep into the Modern Super Qualifier and SpiderSpace's second place finish. We then head into the Dive Down to discuss our recent play experiences, and in the Wind Down talk about the somber announcement from SCG of their ceasing their competitive content coverage. The Break Down: Companions Live On The Dive Down: And Spider Made the Finals! The Wind Down: But Star City Though... Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:34 - Housekeeping 7:20 - The Break Down begins - No bans in Modern! 17:16 - Analyzing the WOTC tea leaves 28:58 - Potential future unbannings 32:40 - What do we want unbanned? 39:25 - Saturday's Modern Showcase Challenge, ft Spiderspace! 1:02:21 - Cool Decks, Inc - Boros Brought Back 1:05:51 - The Dive Down begins - Spiderspace's lamenting 1:17:55 - Stan's smashing 1:23:30 - Shane's losing 1:30:45 - The Wind Down: But Star City Though... Links from this week's episode: January 25th B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-25-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement Find Gabe on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SpiderSpaceMTG Saturday's Super Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12377842#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Bonus 17: The VML, Sloths, Moose(s), and Linguine ft Carolyn Kavanagh

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2022 66:35


    Stan and Dave sit down with the wonderful Carolyn Kavanagh to talk about the latest season of the VML, how we make new friends as adults, and which tree-dwelling mammal is the best animal of all. We also check in on Carolyn's current relationship with Modern and Mono-Green Tron. Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Links from this week's episode: vmlmtg.com https://twitter.com/VMLMTG https://twitter.com/MightyLinguine Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 157: Understanding the Pioneer Metagame ft. Dom Harvey

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2022 114:54


    The heat is on in Pioneer town. Is the format back from the dead? Seems like everyone is talking about it, and it's this month's format for the Manatraders monthly tournament series. So we've invited the incredibly wise and skilled Dom Harvey to share his insights and analysis of Pioneer's most popular decks, including Jeskai Ascendancy, Izzet Phoenix, Boros Heroic, Lotus Field, and more. The Dive Down, pt1: No Break Down This Week! The Dive Down, pt2: Because the Whole Ep is Just Decks! The Dive Down, pt3: Phoenix, Ascendancy, Heroic, Chonks, and More! Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:24 - Housekeeping 9:10 - The Dive Down begins - Pioneer Time! 11:30 - Izzet Phoenix 25:36 - Jeskai Ascendancy 36:13 - Boros Heroic 46:40 - Lotus Field 55:57 - Chonk-ish Red 1:06:07 - Jund Food 1:13:15 - Rakdos Midrange 1:19:25 - Azorius Control 1:25:41 - What is Pioneer about? 1:47:20 - Dom on Dom 1:53:29 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Dom's Twitter: https://twitter.com/dominharvia?lang=en Dom's linktree: https://linktr.ee/domhrv The top decks of Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pioneer#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 156: Yawgmoth: We Persisted

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2022 107:24


    This one goes out to the one I Yawg. It's been a long time coming, but it's finally time for us to sling some wither counters and get undying with everyone's favorite physician, Yawgmoth. Tune in to hear us fumble around with triggers, stacking, and life totals, and to hear Shane give his tepid approval to a deck beloved by millions. Stan's approval is even more tepid. Dave claims he'd rather be playing Titan (is that a bit?). Before we get into all this though, we go over one of this weekend's Modern Challenges and talk about the weirdness that is Jund Reclaimer and a few other things. Thanks for tuning in, #yawgsqwad! The Break Down: They Reclaim Sagas Now Don't They? The Dive Down: -1 for You, -1 for Me The Dive Down, pt.2: For the Yawg Stans but Not for Our Stan Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 3:00 - Housekeeping 4:48 - Barrister and Mann Promo Time 6:20 - The Break Down - The Sunday Challenge 18:08 - Cool Decks, Inc. 27:26 - The Dive Down Begins - Yawgmoth! 30:00 - Our history with Yawg 32:05 - The Yawgmoth combo 37:15 - Yawgmoth, Thran Physician 42:52 - The Undying creatures 48:12 - The mana dorks 54:13 - The tutors 58:07 - Grist, the Hunger Tide 1:05:15 - Sideboard options 1:11:41 - Strategic considerations and playing with Yawgmoth 1:20:34 - Keeps and mulls 1:26:45 - Life-total management 1:29:00 - Matchups 1:35:20 - Proliferating 1:37:45 - Strengths and weaknesses of Yawgmoth 1:42:16 - Our bottom line on Yawg Links from this week's episode: Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12372530#paper DemonicTutors Yawg list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4541927#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 155: 2022 Goals: The Nation Speaks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2022 110:45


    It's 2022, and we're back with an episode that looks forward to the new year. We asked for listeners to submit their 2022 goals via audio and text, and everyone delivered! We give our thoughts and feedback on the goals of The Nation, and also discuss our own. Before that, we go over Stan's December 2021 Modern summary and the latest Modern Challenges. Here's to 2022! The Break Down: December Modern Check-In The Dive Down: Your Goals are Our Goals Check out our NEW SPONSOR, Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN2022 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2022" Timestamps: 4:20 - Housekeeping 7:27 - A Special Barrister and Mann announcement! - THEDIVEDOWN2022 13:16 - The Break Down begins - The December Recap 23:16 - Saturday's Challenge 30:24 - Saturday's Top 8 36:40 - Sunday's Top 8 42:08 - The Dive Down begins - The goals of the Nation 44:00 - Avoiding mistakes 57:04 - Simplification and moderation 1:14:45 - Diving in deeper and playing more 1:23:55 - Our playing goals in 2022 1:28:51 - Winning with a brew 1:31:35 - Performance-based goals 1:38:50 - Do we have any goals for new formats on The Dive Down? 1:48:42 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12367813#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12367819#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Leave us an audio message: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown

    Episode 154: Our Year End Extravaganza, ft. Aspiringspike

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2021 110:34


    The end of 2021 is upon us, which means it's time for our annual year in review episode! And this time, we've brought a friend, our reliable unofficial fourth co-host, Aspiringspike. We first talk about the biggest releases, bannings, and changes in 2021 for Modern and Historic, then head into the awards show to hand out this year's Diveys. We talk about our favorite cards, decks, and events of the year, then discuss our goals for 2022. Thanks to all of you for another great year of The Dive Down! The Break Down: A Whole Year (in Order!) The Dive Down: Taking and Taking and Taking Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 5:43 - Housekeeping 6:57 - The Break Down - 2021 begins! 13:38 - Kaldheim, Oops, all Valkis, and some bans 22:52 - Historic Anthology 4 and Time Spiral Remastered 24:30 - April update, Strixhaven, and the Mystical Archives 33:51 - Modern before and after Modern Horizons 2 43:48 - July and Adventures in the Forgotten Realms 49:20 - Jumpstart: Historic Horizons 52:24 - Modern in October and Innistrad: Midnight Hunt 1:00:21 - December begins and the year ends 1:04:55 - The Dive Down begings - The 2021 Awards Show! 1:05:32 - The Best Card of the Year 1:10:53 - The Non-2021 Card of the Year 1:12:21 - Supporting Card of the Year 1:15:11 - Overhyped Card of the Year 1:20:05 - Overperformer of the Year 1:21:57 - The Deck of the Year 1:25:53 - Most Hated Deck of the Year 1:27:52 - In Memoriam 1:32:36 - Magic Experience of the Year 1:37:13 - The Best WOTC Decision of the Year 1:40:01 - #mtgfinance of the Year 1:40:47 - Our 2022 Goals 1:46:13 - The Best Guest(s) of the Year and Thanks 1:48:40 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Watch Aspiringspike on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Find Spike on twitter: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 153: We Did It For Science: Amulet Titan

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2021 106:58


    In the second installment of We Did It For Science, we explore... gulp... Amulet Titan. Yes, our most hated card goes through our rigorous experimental testing regimen. We go over what these decks are about, gameplans, threats, tips & tricks, and, most importantly, just how much we still hate Primeval Titan. Prior to that, we dive into the metagame of the latest Modern Showcase Challenge. The Break Down: A Showcase Challenge The Dive Down: No Idea How to Play This Deck The Dive Down, cont: Look at This Cool Screenshot Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 4:57 - Housekeeping 7:05 - The Break Down - The Milwaukee NRG Modern Trial 9:40 - The Saturday Modern Showcase Challenge meta 16:13 - The Showcase top 8 27:30 - The Dive Down begins - We Did it For Science: Titan Edition 34:30 - What are Titan decks all about? 55:20 - Keep or mulls? 59:26 - The land sequencing conundrum 1:09:24 - Gameplans with Amulet Titan 1:18:16 - The non-Titan threats 1:26:18 - Tips & tricks 1:35:04 - Why is Amulet resurging? 1:40:55 - Would we repeat the science experiment? 1:45:13 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The December 11th Showcase Challenge Bamzing post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/retyjd/modernshowcasechallenge3resultsdec11_2021/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 152: Is Historic History?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2021 114:54


    It's another in our awesome series of top-tier Patreon request episodes, as we take on Mickey S's (no, the other Mickey S) challenge to explore the decks and metagame of best-of-one Historic on Arena. We played a bunch of fun decks and faced off against even more, and have a lot of thoughts on the format. Prior to that, we break down the Innistrad Set Championship and go over the announcement of Alchemy and its impact on Historic, and perhaps all of Magic. Thanks again, Mickey! The Break Down: Top 8s All Around The Dive Down: Alchemical Explanations The Dive Down, cont: Best of One, Best of All Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 5:15 - Housekeeping 6:32 - Dave and Stan top 8 a store championship! 15:56 - Alchemy... is here 22:55 - The positives 32:14 - Kinda moving into the negatives here 41:05 - Some final takes 48:05 - The Dive Down begins - the Innistrad Set Championship 52:45 - The Top 8 57:17 - Best-of-One Historic - what's the difference? 1:02:00 - The decks of BO1 Historic - Heliod Lifegain 1:06:17 - Elves 1:08:53 - Gruul Shamans 1:10:27 - Izzet Phoenix 1:17:35 - Abzan Auras 1:21:24 - Azorius Auras 1:25:02 - Selesnya Humans 1:27:45 - Mono-W Humans 1:32:50 - Chonky Red 1:34:07 - Mono-Red Torbran 1:41:28 - The rest of the BO1 metagame 1:46:55 - Our thoughts on BO1 1:53:30 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Arena State of the Game article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-alchemy-2021-12-02 Introducing Alchemy: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/introducing-alchemy-new-way-play-mtg-arena-2021-12-02 The Innistrad Championship: https://magic.gg/events/innistrad-championship The Untapped.gg Historic tier list: https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/tierlist?format=historic Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Bonus 16: Magic, Games, and Culture (ft. the hosts of BAD END Podcast)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2021 81:25


    In this latest installment in our series of bonus eps, Shane is joined by the hosts of the videogame and culture podcast BAD END, Josh Calixto and Kyle Kukshtel. They talk about BAD END and the Superculture network, their thoughts on what makes games and Magic work, and, most importantly, what their least favorite video games are. It's a great conversation, and we hope you like it! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Links from this week's episode: BAD END: https://www.badendpodcast.com/ BAD END on Twitter: https://twitter.com/badendpodcast Josh: https://twitter.com/HiThereJosh Kyle: https://twitter.com/kkukshtel Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 151: TDD Live in Vegas, ft. Reid, Evart, Joe, Gal, Tannon, Sam, Eli, Michael, Joel, Levi, & Steven

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2021 121:53


    We come to you LIVE (well, sorta) from the recent MTG Las Vegas event, where we tapped some cards, hung out with friends, and talked to some big name players! We talked to some current and future household names about Modern, the decks they brought, and their tournament experiences. Thanks to our old and new friends Joe Lossett, Tannon Grace, Yamakiller, Aspiringspike, Sam Pardee, Reid Duke, Eli Loveman, Michael Rapp, and top 8 finishers Joel Lapray, Levi Sprung, and Steve Pearlman for the fun and insightful conversations! The Dive Down: Shane & Stan went to Vegas! The Dive Down, cont: For some reason Dave is here too! The Dive Down, cont again: More interviews than you can shake your deck at! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 3:20 - Housekeeping 6:17 - MtG Las Vegas discussion begins 8:18 - Shane & Stan live from Vegas 21:47 - Discussing the overall event 28:26 - Joe Lossett talks 4-Color Control 36:15 - Tannon Grace chats... magic! 41:40 - Yamakiller talks Grixis Shadow 49:28 - Aspiringspike talks Rakdos Lurrus 58:52 - Sam Pardee on 4C Elementals 1:06:16 - Reid Duke talks Yawgmoth 1:11:53 - Stan talks about his tournament 1:14:28 - Eli Loveman on Hammertime 1:20:27 - Michael Rapp on Grixis Shadow 1:26:29 - Top seed Joel Lapray on Hardened Scales 1:32:06 - Talking the top 8 decks 1:39:49 - Top 8 finisher Levi Sprung 1:48:05 - Top 2 finisher Steve Pearlman 1:56:45 - Our takes on Modern after Vegas 1:59:55 - Thanks and closing out Links from this week's episode: MTG top 8 lists: https://twitter.com/theMMcast/status/1462223403914387458 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 150: The Road to Las Vegas IV: Preparing to Win, ft. Zach Allen

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2021 115:35


    It's episode 150!! In our final Road to Las Vegas segment, we are joined by SCG grinder, former host of Turn One Thoughtseize, and all around great guy Zach Allen. We first talk over the weekend's Challenges, then head into The Dive Down to talk about the decks of Modern, leveling up as a player, playing in a big tournament, why Aether Gust is the best card in Modern, and more. It's a can't-miss episode! The Break Down: A Huge Challenge The Dive Down: Preparation Makes Perfect The Dive Down, cont: The End of the Road Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 4:18 - Housekeeping 9:10 - The Saturday Challenge metagame 19:54 - The Top 8 39:24 - The Sunday Challenge Top 8 43:30 - The Dive Down begins - Zach's competitive past 47:08 - How Zach leveled up 57:15 - What is Modern about right now? 1:03:34 - Zach's thoughts on the best decks 1:30:11 - Do paper events lag behind MTGO? 1:35:35 - Performing your best at an event 1:40:41 - What does it take to win? 1:42:10 - Zach's advice on Modern 1:45:05 - Stan and Zach talk Murktide 1:51:30 - Where to find Zach and closing out Links from this week's episode: Find Zach on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a22en Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12355688#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12355715#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 149: ManaCymbal Crashes & Crimson Vow Spoilers, II

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 112:59


    This week the three friends go through the second half of spoilers from Crimson Vow and consider which ones they'd marry for Modern (and other formats). But first, friend of the pod Zach Ryl (aka Manacymbal) stops by to talk us through his Modern Challenge Victory on Saturday, November 6. The Break Down: A Victorious Challenger The Dive Down: Crimson Vow — More 1 Mana Spells Than We Thought! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 4:14 - Housekeeping 6:20 - The Break Down with ManaCymbal 7:24 - Saturday's Modern Challenge 37:17 - ManaCymbal talks his first place finish with 4C Creativity 1:01:05 - The Dive Down begins 1:02:35 - Geralf, Visionary Stitcher 1:04:22 - End the Festivities 1:06:16 - Ancestral Anger 1:10:30 - Blood Fountain 1:12:10 - Voldaren Epicure 1:14:09 - Wash Away 1:17:58 - Eruth, Tormented Prophet 1:22:28 - Cradle of Safety 1:24:36 - Stormchaser Drake 1:26:33 - Curse of Hospitality 1:28:17 - Cemetery Prowler 1:31:35 - Cemetery Illuminator 1:34:48 - Dreamshackle Geist 1:37:05 - Inspired Idea 1:39:31 - Faithbound Judge 1:41:45 - Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1:42:40 - Ascendant Packleader 1:43:30 - Lantern of the Lost 1:46:11 - Reckless Impulse 1:49:24 - Our favorite cards 1:51:10 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Saturday Modern Challenge - https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/qosb9r/saturdaymodernchallengeresultsnov62021/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 148: Events, Reanimator, and Crimson Vow Spoilers

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2021 104:54


    The title says it all! We first talk the MOCS, the SCG Invitational, and some Modern Challenges to try to wrap our head around the Modern meta. Then Shane makes up for being off last week with a discussion of Esper Reanimator. Then we go over the first batch of Crimson Vow spoilers and talk about some Cool Cards, Inc. The Break Down: Several Events The Dive Down: Esper Reanimator The Dive Down, cont: Crimson Vow Spoilers Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 3:32 - Housekeeping 7:25 - The Break Down - A lot of events 8:12 - The MOCS 18:03 - The SCG Invitational 29:30 - Saturday's Challenge 38:30 - Sunday's Challenge 39:19 - Takeaways from these events 44:18 - The Dive Down begins - Shane on Esper Reanimator 51:53 - What Esper Reanimator is doing well 54:32 - What it isn't doing as well 1:06:00 - The bottom line on Reanimator 1:10:46 - The mechanics of Crimson Vow 1:19:22 - The cards begin - Manaform Hellkite 1:22:06 - Path of Peril 1:24:53 - Cemetery Protector 1:27:11 - Chandra, Dressed to Kill 1:31:01 - Dig Up 1:31:50 - Geist Lightsnare 1:34:40 - "Bedsheet Elemental" 1:36:04 - Dread Fugue 1:38:18 - Change of Fortune 1:40:01 - Grolnok, the Omnivore 1:41:07 - Demonic Bargain 1:43:30 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The MOCS: https://magic.gg/decklists/2021-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-2-modern-decklists Randy's Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmJkCX2mpIoVFd8TTwqE44LARRNevUeSSqJUdAjAV4s/edit#gid=0 SCG Top 8 Decks: https://old.starcitygames.com/decks/results/format/28/eventID/21/startdate/31-10-2021/enddate/31-10-2021/start/1/finish/8/wperc/0/gperc/0/rperc/0/bperc/0/uperc/0/aperc/0/order1/finish/limit/25/start_num/0/ Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12351480#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12351484#paper Esper Reanimator: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/IfleifZ9n Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane Leave us an audio message in our PodInbox: https://www.podinbox.com/thedivedown email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Bonus 15: Undoubtable Creativity ft. Manacymbal

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2021 88:27


    Streamer, musician, podcaster, and ever-present Magic personality Zach Ryl, aka Manacymbal, joins Stan to talk about the Indomitable Creativity deck in Modern, content creation, and music! Recorded on October 7th. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Links from this week's episode: Serum Visions Podcast: https://serumvisions.podbean.com/ MTG Parody Songs: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KjuSPkJvLbbBstdPc2IVh1YSemmjQv This Week in Modern: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KjuSPkJvLHdr51QgBsjKAevQz5U2bg Twitch: https://www.twitch.com/manacymbal 4C Creativity deck talk and tournament report: https://youtu.be/Ou7X5IjzVIw Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Episode 147: The Road to Las Vegas III: It's Elementalry!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 103:26


    Shane's gone so Stan and Dave are finally free to do whatever they want. And what they want to do is play too many colors and evoke some elementals! At least that's what they thought they wanted to do — we think? That's right, for the third in our Road to Vegas series we tackle the element... als. But first enjoy a tour of one of last week's Modern Challenges and a live paper tournament from NRG. Stan talks about cool things. Dave reminisces about when he seemed cool. Somewhere, Shane is being cool. Unnecessary Anecdote: The Beach Boys! The Break Down: A Challenge and Some NRG The Dive Down: Four Arms to Hold You Still Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown2021" Timestamps: 7:12 - Housekeeping 10:13 - The Break Down - A Modern Challenge 21:31 - The Nerd Rage Gaming paper event 30:10 - The Dive Down - The Road To Vegas pt 3 34:04 - Some powerful Modern cards 46:00 - Stan on 4-Color YoRhinos and Temur Rhinos 1:00:00 - The matchups 1:12:05 - Dave on 4-Color Elementals 1:18:40 - The matchups 1:42:15 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Saturday Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-10-24?xd34 Bamzing's Post About Same: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/qew011/saturdaymodernchallengeresultsoct232021/ NRG Modern on MTGMelee: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/7504 4c Yorhinos: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4383735#paper 4c Elementals: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4363826#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Watch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane email us: thedivedown@gmail.com (mailto:thedivedown@gmail.com) twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

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