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Listen along as we continue our series looking at the person and work of the Holy Spirit. Notes//Quotes: Romans 8:12-17 - Jack “How do we receive those benefits which the Father bestowed on his only-begotten Son—not for Christ's own private use, but that he might enrich poor and needy men?” - John Calvin “It is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: (Jn. 16:7&8) Regeneration: “mighty work of God by which unbelievers are given a new nature, being born again.... It is both (1) the removal of one's old self, and (2) the imparting of a new self that is responsive to God. Unlike conversion, which is the human response to the gospel, regeneration is completely a divine work, to which human beings contribute nothing.” - Greg Allison This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.' 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”  (John 3:2-8) “For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”  (Titus 3:3-7) “To love you as I should, I must worship God as Creator. When I have learnt to love God better than my earthly dearest, I shall love my earthly dearest better than I do now. In so far as I learn to love my earthly dearest at the expense of God and instead of God, I shall be moving towards the state in which I shall not love my earthly dearest at all. When first things are put first, second things are not suppressed but increased.”  ― C.S. Lewis, Letters of C. S. Lewis “You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.” (Romans 8:9-11) “Justification is the "mighty act of God by which he declares sinful people not guilty but righteous instead. He does so by imputing, or crediting, the perfect righteousness of Christ to them. Thus, while they are not actually righteous, God views them as being so because of Christ's righteousness." Thus, justification is a forensic act, a legal declaration, consisting of two elements. "The first aspect is the forgiveness of sins, resulting from Christ's substitutionary death (Rom. 3:25; 5:9). The second is imputation, resulting from Christ's obedience that makes people righteous (5:18-29). The New Testament ties justification to the Holy Spirit in one passage, in which an absolute contrast is made between "the unrighteous, [who] will not inherit God's kingdom" (1 Cor 6:9), and believers: "And some of you used to be like this. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God' (6:11).” — Greg Allison  “14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Cor. 2:14)  “The Spirit does not enter hearts that prepare him room or sweep the floor and dust before his arrival (an optimistic set of tasks to expect of the dead); rather, he enters, hovers, infuses life, gives faith, and begins immediately to renovate the mansion in which he once breathed merely the natural (i.e., biological) life but now breathes the breath of eschatological—new creation—life.” — Michael Horton 

Here's another Bonus Episode in the Incubator Series Areas of Discussion with Jack:- How can I stand out in a business that's similar to mine?- Plans after graduation include focusing on gaining more knowledge in business- How to effectively work in business with teams and focus on delegating tasks.- A marketing approach to advertise my cleaning services.Welcome back to That Entrepreneur Show! If you enjoy the show, please subscribe for weekly episodes and rate the show 5 stars to help others join our conversations!Meet our Guest: My name is Jack Foley and I'm a recent graduate of The University of Tampa. Being exposed to entrepreneurship from a young age, I knew it was a path I wanted to go down. My first venture was a landscaping company I started in the summers home from college. This gave me a good introduction to the challenges that come along with starting a business. This ignited my passion for entrepreneurship even more. I worked as a marketing and engagement specialist at the Lowth Entrepreneurship Center at UT, which allowed me to be around and learn from many great entrepreneurs. In the future, I hope to take my passion for entrepreneurship and real estate into my next venture. Have a question for the host or guest? Email Danica at PodcastsByLanci@gmail.com to get started.Stay connected with us on social media! You can find us at @ThatEntrepreneurShow on all platforms. For more information about our show and our guests, visit www.vincentalanci.com. We look forward to engaging with you!To learn more about podcasting coaching services, email Danica at PodcastsByLanci@gmail.com for more information. Music Credits:Adventure by MusicbyAden | https://soundcloud.comSupport the Show.If you enjoyed this week's show, click the subscribe button to stay current.Listen to A Mental Health Break Episodes hereTune into Writing with Authors here

In this week's episode, I tackle your questions regarding image, sex, and dating! Whether you are wondering what your partner desires in bed or you are looking for ways to handle rejection - this episode is full of valuable advice and insights.  Make sure to rate and review if you love the podcast and reach out and tell us your thoughts about the Q&A over on Instagram @celestemooreimage! In this week's episode we discuss: [01:30] Question 1: (Dan) - How important is confidence and how do I build it? [03:35] Question 2: (Ron) - What are the signs that a date is going well? [05:08] Question 3: (Josh) - How can I understand what my partner wants in bed? [07:15] Question 4: (John) - What are effective ways to handle rejection? [09:03] Question 5: (Jack) - How can technology enhance my dating life? [11:11] Question 6: (Jim) - What are some myths around masculinity?  [13:52] Question 7: (Matt) - How can I maintain a healthy relationship during stressful times? [16:03] Question 8: (Noah) - How to keep the spark alive in a long-term relationship?

Patrick unravels moral complexities, explaining why a non-Catholic, unmarried couple may share a bed at their parents' house and how the natural institution of marriage carries validity outside of religious bounds. He tackles theological inquiries, including the necessity of Sacraments for salvation and the role of grace, using the example of the good thief next to Jesus.    Email – Is it okay to allow my adult son and his wife to sleep at our house, even though they were living together before they were married? Jack - How did the thief on the cross go to heaven if purgatory is real? Jorge - I am a godparent for two nieces but I found out I was not confirmed. What should I do? Patrick - When does worrying become a mortal sin? Alfred - How is Jesus made perfect? Email – Question about donating your body to science Linda - What do you need to do to receive the Divine Mercy graces from Sunday's feast day? Cathy - Why is cremation not respectful to the body? Ann - Is today a Holy Day of obligation?

Katrina - I was a flight attendant based in New York during 9/11. We were the first crew to be grounded. Ted - My cousin was supposed to be on the flight crew of 9/11 but she was ill and needed to call in sick. Jack - How can I understand a new policy of eliminating the paten under the chin during communion? Jose - During 9/11 we had a son who worked at Washington DC. We were concerned about his safety. Rocco - I went down and worked the day after it happened, I was a pipe fitter so I could help move stuff. It felt very surreal. I worked 9 days clearing things. Rebecca - I was giving birth during 9/11 and now have a Catholic son. There is good in the midst of darkness.

About JackJack is Uptycs' outspoken technology evangelist. Jack is a lifelong information security executive with over 25 years of professional experience. He started his career managing security and operations at the world's first Internet data privacy company. He has since led unified Security and DevOps organizations as Global CSO for large conglomerates. This role involved individually servicing dozens of industry-diverse, mid-market portfolio companies.Jack's breadth of experience has given him a unique insight into leadership and mentorship. Most importantly, it fostered professional creativity, which he believes is direly needed in the security industry. Jack focuses his extra time mentoring, advising, and investing. He is an active leader in the ISLF, a partner in the SVCI, and an outspoken privacy activist. Links Referenced: UptycsSecretMenu.com: https://www.uptycssecretmenu.com Jack's email: jroehrig@uptycs.com TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: If you asked me to rank which cloud provider has the best developer experience, I'd be hard-pressed to choose a platform that isn't Google Cloud. Their developer experience is unparalleled and, in the early stages of building something great, that translates directly into velocity. Try it yourself with the Google for Startups Cloud Program over at cloud.google.com/startup. It'll give you up to $100k a year for each of the first two years in Google Cloud credits for companies that range from bootstrapped all the way on up to Series A. Go build something, and then tell me about it. My thanks to Google Cloud for sponsoring this ridiculous podcast.Corey: This episode is brought to us by our friends at Pinecone. They believe that all anyone really wants is to be understood, and that includes your users. AI models combined with the Pinecone vector database let your applications understand and act on what your users want… without making them spell it out. Make your search application find results by meaning instead of just keywords, your personalization system make picks based on relevance instead of just tags, and your security applications match threats by resemblance instead of just regular expressions. Pinecone provides the cloud infrastructure that makes this easy, fast, and scalable. Thanks to my friends at Pinecone for sponsoring this episode. Visit Pinecone.io to understand more.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. This promoted guest episode is brought to us by our friends at Uptycs. And they have sent me their Technology Evangelist, Jack Charles Roehrig. Jack, thanks for joining me.Jack: Absolutely. Happy to spread the good news.Corey: So, I have to start. When you call yourself a technology evangelist, I feel—just based upon my own position in this ecosystem—the need to ask, I guess, the obvious question of, do you actually work there, or have you done what I do with AWS and basically inflicted yourself upon a company. Like, well, “I speak for you now.” The running gag that becomes more true every year is that I'm AWS's chief marketing officer.Jack: So, that is a great question. I take it seriously. When I say technology evangelist, you're speaking to Jack Roehrig. I'm a weird guy. So, I quit my job as CISO. I left a CISO career. For, like, ten years, I was a CISO. Before that, 17 years doing stuff. Started my own thing, secondaries, investments, whatever.Elias Terman, he hits me up and he says, “Hey, do you want this job?” It was an executive job, and I said, “I'm not working for anybody.” And he says, “What about a technology evangelist?” And I was like, “That's weird.” “Check out the software.”So, I'm going to check out the software. I went online, I looked at it. I had been very passionate about the space, and I was like, “How does this company exist in doing this?” So, I called him right back up, and I said, “I think I am.” He said, “You think you are?” I said, “Yeah, I think I'm your evangelist. Like, I think I have to do this.” I mean, it really was like that.Corey: Yeah. It's like, “Well, we have an interview process and the rest.” You're like, “Yeah, I have a goldfish. Now that we're done talking about stuff that doesn't matter, I'll start Monday.” Yeah, I like the approach.Jack: Yeah. It was more like I had found my calling. It was bizarre. I negotiated a contract with him that said, “Look, I can't just work for Uptycs and be your evangelist. That doesn't make any sense.” So, I advise companies, I'm part of the SVCI, I do secondaries, investment, I mentor, I'm a steering committee member of the ISLF. We mentor security leaders.And I said, “I'm going to continue doing all of these things because you don't want an evangelist who's just an Uptycs evangelist.” I have to know the space. I have to have my ear to the ground. And I said, “And here's the other thing, Elias. I will only be your evangelist while I'm your evangelist. I can't be your evangelist when I lose passion. I don't think I'm going to.”Corey: The way I see it, authenticity matters in this space. You can sell out exactly once, so make it count because you're never going to be trusted again to do it a second time. It keeps people honest, at least the ones you actually want to be doing work with. So, you've been in the space a long time, 20 years give or take, and you've seen an awful lot. So, I'm curious, given that I tend to see about, you know, six or seven different companies in the RSA Sponsor Hall every year selling things because you know, sure hundreds of booths, bunch of different marketing logos and products, but it all distills down to the same five or six things.What did you see about Uptycs that made you say, “This is different?” Because to be very direct, looking at the website, it's, “Oh, what do you sell?” “Acronyms. A whole bunch of acronyms that, because I don't eat, sleep, and breathe security for a living, I don't know what most of them mean, but I'm sure they're very impressive and important.” What does it actually do, for those of us who are practitioners, but not swimming in the security vendor stream?Jack: So, I've been obsessed with this space and I've seen the acronyms change over and over and over again. I'm always the first one to say, “What does that mean?” As the senior guy in the room a lot of time. So, acronyms. What does Uptycs do? What drew me into them? They did HIDS, Host Intrusion Detection System. I don't know if you remember that. Turned into—Corey: Oh, yeah. OSSEC was the one I always wound up using, the open-source version. OSSEC [kids 00:04:10]. It's like, oh, instead of paying a vendor, you can contribute it yourself because your time is free, right? Free as in puppy, or these days free as in tier when it comes to cloud.Jack: Oh, I like that. So, yeah, I became obsessed with this HIDS stuff. I think it was evident I was doing it, that it was threat [unintelligible 00:04:27]. And these companies, great companies. I started this new job in an education technology company and I needed a lot of work, so I started to play around with more sophisticated HIDS systems, and I fell in love with it. I absolutely fell in love with it.But there are all these limitations. I couldn't find this company that would build it right. And Uptycs has this reputation as being not very sexy, you know? People telling me, “Uptycs? You're going to Uptycs?” Yeah—I'm like, “Yeah. They're doing really cool stuff.”So, Uptycs has, like, this brand name and I had referred Uptycs before without even knowing what it was. So, here I am, like, one of the biggest XDR, I hope to say, activists in the industry, and I didn't know about Uptycs. I felt humiliated. When I heard about what they were doing, I felt like I wasted my career.Corey: Well, that's a strong statement. Let's begin with XDR. To my understanding, that some form of audio cable standard that I use to plug into my microphone. Some would say it, “X-L-R.” I would say sounds like the same thing. What is XDR?Jack: What is it, right? So, [audio break 00:05:27] implement it, but you install an agent, typically on a system, and that agent collects data on the system: what processes are running, right? Well, maybe it's system calls, maybe it's [unintelligible 00:05:37] as regular system calls. Some of them use the extended Berkeley Packet Filter daemon to get stuff, but one of the problems is that we are obtaining low-level data on an operating system, it's got to be highly specific. So, you collect all this data, who's logging in, which passwords are changing, all the stuff that a hacker would do as you're typing on the computer. You're maybe monitoring vulnerabilities, it's a ton of data that you're monitoring.Well, one of the problems that these companies face is they try to monitor too much. Then some came around and they tried to monitor too little, so they weren't as real-time.Corey: Sounds like a little pig story here.Jack: Yeah [laugh], exactly. Another company came along with a fantastic team, but you know, I think they came in a little late in the game, and it looks like they're folding now. They were wonderful company, but the one of the biggest problems I saw was the agent, the compatibility. You know, it was difficult to deploy. I ran DevOps and security and my DevOps team uninstalled the agent because they thought there was a problem with it, we proved there wasn't and four months later, they hadn't completely reinstall it.So, a CISO who manages the DevOps org couldn't get his own DevOps guy to install this agent. For good reason, right? So, this is kind of where I'm going with all of this XDR stuff. What is XDR? It's an agent on a machine that produces a ton of data.I—it's like omniscience. Yes, I started to turn it in, I would ping developers, I was like, “Why did you just run sudo on that machine?” Right. I mean, I knew everything was going on in the space, I had a good intro to all the assets, they technically run on the on-premise data center and the quote-unquote, “Cloud.” I like to just say the production estate. But it's omniscience. It's insights, you can create rules, it's one of the most powerful security tools that exists.Corey: I think there's a definite gap as far as—let's narrow this down to cloud for just a second before we expand this into the joy that has data centers—where you can instrument a whole bunch of different security services in any cloud provider—I'm going to pick on AWS because they're the 800-pound gorilla in the room, and frankly, they could use taking down a peg or two by and large—and you wind up configuring all the different security services that in some cases seem totally unaware of each other, but that's the AWS product portfolio for you. And you do the math out and realize that it theoretically would cost you—to enable all these things—about three times as much as the actual data breach you're ideally trying to prevent against. So, on some level, it feels like, “Heads, I win; tails, you lose,” style scenario.And the answer that people have started reaching out to third-party vendors to wind up tying all of this together into some form of cohesive narrative that a human being has a hope in hell of understanding. But everything I've tried to this point still feels like it is relatively siloed, focused on the whole fear, uncertainty, and doubt that is so inherent to so much of the security world's marketing. And it's almost like cost control where you can spend almost limitless amount of time, energy, money, et cetera, trying to fix these things, but it doesn't advance your company to the next milestone. It's like buying fire insurance on your building. You can spend all the money on fire insurance. Great, it doesn't get you to the next milestone that propels your company forward. It's all reactive instead of proactive. So, it feels like it is never the exciting, number-one priority for companies until right after it should have been higher in the list than it was.Jack: So, when I worked at Turnitin, we had saturated the market. And we worked in education, technology space globally. Compliance everywhere. So, I just worked on the Australian Data Infrastructure Act of 2020. I'm very familiar with the 27 data privacy regulations that are [laugh] in scope for schools. I'm a FERPA expert, right? I know that there's only one P in HIPAA [laugh].So, all of these compliance regulations drove schools and universities, consortiums, government agencies to say, “You need to be secure.” So, security at Turnitin was the number one—number one—key performance indicator of the company for one-and-a-half years. And these cloud security initiatives didn't just make things more secure. They also allowed me to implement a reasonable control framework to get various compliance certifications. So, I'm directly driving sales by deploying these security tools.And the reason why that worked out so great is, by getting the certifications and by building a sensible control framework layer, I was taking these compliance requirements and translating them into real mitigations of business risk. So, the customers are driving security as they should. I'm implementing sane security controls by acting as the chief security officer, company becomes more secure, I save money by using the correct toolset, and we increased our business by, like, 40% in a year. This is a multibillion-dollar company.Corey: That is definitely a story that resonates, especially with organizations that are—or they should be—compliance-forward and having to care about the nature of what it is that they're doing. But I have a somewhat storied history in working in FinTech and large-scale financial services. One of the nice things about that job, which is sort of a weird thing to say there if you don't want to get ejected from the room, has been, “Yeah well, it's only money,” in the final analysis. Because yeah, no one dies if you wind up screwing that up. People's kids don't get exposed.It's just okay, people have to fill out a bunch of forms and you get sued into oblivion and you're not there anymore because the first role of a CISO is to be ablative and get burned away whenever there's a problem. But it still doesn't feel like it does more for a number of clients than, on some level, checking a box that they feel needs to be checked. Not that it shouldn't be, necessarily, but I have a hard time finding people that get passionately excited about security capabilities. Where are they hiding?Jack: So, one of the biggest problems that you're going to face is there are a lot of security people that have moved up in the ranks through technology and not through compliance and technology. These people will implement control frameworks based on audit requirements that are not bespoke to their company. They're doing it wrong. So, we're not ticking boxes; I'm creating boxes that need to be ticked to secure the infrastructure. And at Turnitin, Turnitin was a company that people were forced to use to submit their works in the school.So, imagine that you have to submit a sensitive essay, right? And that sensitive essay goes to this large database. We have the Taiwanese government submitting confidential data there. I had the chief scientist at NASA submitting in pre-publication data there. We've got corporate trade secrets that are popped in there. We have all kinds of FDA pre-approval stuff. This is a plagiarism detection software being used by large companies, governments, and 12-year-old girls, right, who don't want their data leaked.So, if you look at it, like, this is an ethical thing that is required for us to do, our customers drive that, but truly, I think it's ethics that drive it. So, when we implemented a control framework, I didn't do the minimum, I didn't run an [unintelligible 00:12:15] scan that nobody ran. I looked for tools that satisfied many boxes. And one of the things about the telemetry at scale, [unintelligible 00:12:22], XDR, whatever want to call it, right? But the agent-based systems that monitor for all of us this run-state data, is they can take a lot of your technical SOC controls.Furthermore, you can use these tools to improve your processes like incident response, right? You can use them to log things. You can eliminate your SIEM by using this for your DLP. The problem of companies in the past is they wouldn't deploy on the entire infrastructure. So, you'd get one company, it would just be on-prem, or one company that would just run on CentOS.One of the reasons why I really liked this Uptycs company is because they built it on an osquery. Now, if you mention osquery, a lot of people glaze over, myself included before I worked at Uptycs. But apparently what it is, is it's this platform to collect a ton of data on the run state of a machine in real-time, pop it into a normalized SQL database, and it runs on a ton of stuff: Mac OS, Windows, like, tons of version of Linux because it's open-source, so people are porting it to their infrastructure. And that was one of these unique differentiators is, what is the cloud? I mean, AWS is a place where you can rapidly prototype, there's tons of automation, you can go in and you build something quickly and then it scales.But I view the cloud as just a simple abstraction to refer to all of my assets, be them POPS, on-premise data machines, you know, the corporate environment, laptops, desktops, the stuff that we buy in the public clouds, right? These things are all part of the greater cloud. So, when I think cloud security, I want something that does it all. That's very difficult because if you had one tool run on your cloud, one tool to run on your corporate environment, and one tool to run for your production environment, those tools are difficult to manage. And the data needs to be ETL, you know? It needs to be normalized. And that's very difficult to do.Our company is doing [unintelligible 00:14:07] security right now as a company that's taking all these data signals, and they're normalizing them, right, so that you can have one dashboard. That's a big trend in security right now. Because we're buying too many tools. So, I guess the answer that really is, I don't see the cloud is just AWS. I think AWS is not just data—they shouldn't call themselves the cloud. They call themselves the cloud with everything. You can come in, you can rapidly prototype your software, and you know what? You want to run to the largest scale possible? You can do that too. It's just the governance problem that we run into.Corey: Oh, yes. The AWS product strategy is pretty clearly, in a word, “Yes,” written on a Post-it note somewhere. That's the easiest job in the world is running their strategy. The challenge, too, is that we don't live in a world where monocultures are a thing anymore because regardless—if you use AWS for the underlying infrastructure, great, that makes a lot of sense. Use it for a lot of the higher-up the stack, SaaS-y type things that you don't want to have to build yourself from—by going to Home Depot and picking up components, you're doing something relatively foolish in most cases.They're a plumbing company not a porcelain company, in many respects. And regardless of what your intention is around multiple clouds, people wind up using different things. In most cases, you're going to be storing your source code in GitHub, not in AWS CodeCommit because CodeCommit doesn't really have any customers, for reasons that become blindingly apparent the first time you try to use it for something. So, you always wind up with these cross-cloud, cross-infrastructure stories. For any company that had the temerity to be founded before 2010, they probably have an on-premises data center as well—or six or more—and you're starting to try to wind up having a whole bunch of different abstractions viewed through the same lenses in terms of either observability or control plane or governance, or—dare I say it—security. And it feels like there are multiple approaches, all of which have their drawbacks, which of course means, it's complicated. What's your take on it?Jack: So, I think it was two years ago we started to see tools to do signal consumption. They would aggregate those signals and they would try and produce meaningful results that were actionable rather than you having to go and look at all this granular data. And I think that's phenomenal. I think a lot of companies are going to start to do that more and more. One of the other trends people do is they eliminated data and they went machine-learning and anomaly detection. And that didn't work.It missed a lot of things, right, or generated a lot of false positive. I think that one of the next big technologies—and I know it's been done for two years—but I think we're the next things we're going to see is the axonius of the consumption of events, the categorization into alerts-based synthetic data classification policies, and we're going to look at the severity classifications of those, they're going to be actionable in a priority queue, and we're going to eliminate the need for people that don't like their jobs and sit at a SOC all day and analyze a SIEM. I don't ever run a SIEM, but I think that this diversity can be a good thing. So, sometimes it's turned out to be a bad thing, right? We wanted to diversity, we don't want all the data to be homogenous. We don't need data standards because that limits things. But we do want competition. But I would ask you this, Corey, why do you think AWS? We remember 2007, right?Corey: I do. Oh, I've been around at least that long.Jack: Yeah, you remember when S3 came up. Was that 2007?Corey: I want to say 2004, 2005 in beta, and then relaunched as the first general available service. The first beta service was SQS, so there's always some question about which one was first. I don't get in the middle of those fights because all I'm going to do is upset people.Jack: But S3 was awesome. It still is awesome, right?Corey: Oh yes.Jack: And you know what I saw? I worked for a very older company with very strict governance. You know with SOX compliance, which is a joke, but we also had SOC compliance. I did HIPAA compliance for them. Tons of compliance to this.I'm not a compliance off, too, by trade. So, I started seeing [x cards 00:17:54], you know, these company personal cards, and people would go out and [unintelligible 00:17:57] platform because if they worked with my teams internally, if they wanted to get a small app deployed, it was like a two, three-month process. That process was long because of CFO overhead, approvals, vendor data security vetting, racking machines. It wasn't a problem that was inherent to the technology. I actually built a self-service cloud in that company. The problem was governance. It was financial approvals, it was product justification.So, I think AWS is really what made the internet inflect and scale and innovate amazingly. But I think that one of the things that it sacrificed was governance. So, if you tie a lot of what we're saying back together, by using some sort of tool that you can pop into a cloud environment and they can access a hundred percent of the infrastructure and look for risks, what you're doing is you're kind of X-Ray visioning into all these nodes that were deployed rapidly and kept around because they were crown jewels, and you're determining the risks that lie on them. So, let's say that 10 or 15% of your estate is prototype things that grew at a scale and we can't pull back into our governance infrastructure. A lot of times people think that those types of team machines are probably pretty locked down and they're probably low risk.If you throw a company on the side scanner or something like that, you'll see they have 90% of the risk, 80% of the risk. They're unpatched and they're old. So, I remember at one point in my career, right, I'm thinking Amazon's great. I'm—[unintelligible 00:19:20] on Amazon because they've made the internet go, they influxed. I mean, they've scaled us up like crazy.Corey: Oh, the capability store is phenomenal. No argument there.Jack: Yeah. The governance problem, though, you know, the government, there's a lot of hacks because of people using AWS poorly.Corey: And to be clear, that's everyone. We all are. I take a look at some of the horrible technical decisions I made even a couple of years ago, based upon what I know now, it's difficult to back out and wind up doing things the proper way. I wrote an article a while back, “17 Ways to Run Containers on AWS,” and listed all the services. And I think it was a little on the nose, but then I wrote 17, “More Ways to Run Containers on AWS,” but different services. And I'm about three-quarters of the way through the third in the sequel. I just need a couple more releases and we're good to go.Jack: The more and more complexity you add, the more security risk exists. And I've heard horror stories. Dictionary.com lost a lot of business once because a couple of former contractors deleted some instances in AWS. Before that, they had a secret machine they turned into a pixel [unintelligible 00:20:18] and had take down their iPhone app.I've seen some stuff. But one of the interesting things about deploying one of these tools in AWS, they can just, you know, look X-Ray vision on into all your compute, all your storage and say, “You have PIIs stored here, you have personal data stored here, you have this vulnerability, that vulnerability, this machine has already been compromised,” is you can take that to your CEO as a CISO and say, “Look, we were wrong, there's a lot of risk here.” And then what I've done in the past is I've used that to deploy HIDS—XDR, telemetry at scale, whatever you want to call it—these agent-based solutions, I've used that to justification for them. Now, the problem with this solutions that use agentless is almost all of them are just in the cloud. So, just a portion of your infrastructure.So, if your hybrid environment, you have data centers, you're ignoring the data centers. So, it's interesting because I've seen these companies position themselves as competitors when really, they're in complementary spaces, but one of them justified the other for me. So, I mean, what do you think about that awkward competition? Why was this competition exists between these people if they do completely different things?Corey: I'll take it a step further. I'm a big believer that security for the cloud providers should not be a revenue generator in any meaningful sense because at that point, they wind up with an inherent conflict of interest, where when they start charging, especially trying to do value-based pricing as they move up the stack, what they're inherently saying is, great, you can get our version of our services that is less secure, so that they're what they're doing is they're making security on their platform an inherent investment decision. And I've never been a big believer in that approach.Jack: The SSO tax.Corey: Oh, yes. And many others.Jack: Yeah. So, I was one of the first SSO tax contributors. That started it.Corey: You want data plane audit logging? Great, that'll cost you. But they finally gave in a couple of years back and made the first management trail for CloudTrail audit logging free for everyone. And people still advertently built second ones and then wonder why they're paying through the nose. Like, “Oh, that's 40 grand a month. That should be zero.” Great. Send that to your SIEM and then have that pass it out to where it needs to go. But so much of it is just these weird configuration taxes that people aren't fully aware exist.Jack: It's the market, right? The market is—so look at Amazon's IAM. It is amazing, right? It's totally robust, who is using it correctly? I know a lot of people are. I've been the CISO for over 100 companies and IAM is was one of those things that people don't know how to use, and I think the reason is because people aren't paying for it, so AWS can continue to innovate on it.So, we find ourselves with this huge influx of IAM tools in the startup scene. We all know Uptycs does some CIAM and some identity management stuff. But that's a great example of what you're talking about, right? These cloud companies are not making the things inherently secure, but they are giving some optionality. The products don't grow because they're not being consumed.And AWS doesn't tend to advertise them as much as the folks in the security industry. It's been one complaint of mine, right? And I absolutely agree with you. Most of the breaches are coming out of AWS. That's not AWS's fault. AWS's infrastructure isn't getting breached.It's the way that the customers are configuring the infrastructure. That's going to change a lot soon. We're starting to see a lot of change. But the fundamental issue here is that security needs to be invested in for short-term initiatives, not just for long-term initiatives. Customers need to care about security, not compliance. Customers need to see proof of security. A customer should be demanding that they're using a secure company. If you've ever been on the vendor approval side, you'll see it's very hard to push back on an insecure company going through the vendor process.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Uptycs, because they believe that many of you are looking to bolster your security posture with CNAPP and XDR solutions. They offer both cloud and endpoint security in a single UI and data model. Listeners can get Uptycs for up to 1,000 assets through the end of 2023 (that is next year) for $1. But this offer is only available for a limited time on UptycsSecretMenu.com. That's U-P-T-Y-C-S Secret Menu dot com.Corey: Oh, yes. I wound up giving probably about 100 companies now S3 Bucket Negligence Awards for being public about failing to secure their data and put that out into the world. I had one physical bucket made, the S3 Bucket Responsibility Award and presented it to their then director of security over at the Pokémon Company because there was a Wall Street Journal article talking about how their security review—given the fact that they are a gaming company that has children as their primary customer—they take it very seriously. And they cited the reason they're not to do business with one unnamed vendor was in part due to the lackadaisical approach around S3 bucket control. So, that was the one time I've seen in public a reference where, “Yeah, we were going to use a vendor and their security story was terrible, and we decided not to.”It's, why is that news? That should be a much more common story, but these days, it feels like procurement is rubber-stamping it and, like, “Okay, great. Fill out the form.” And, “Okay, you gave some wrong answers on the form. Try it again and tell the story differently until it gets shoved through.” It feels like it's a rubber stamp rather than a meaningful control.Jack: It's not a rubber stamp for me when I worked in it. And I'm a big guy, so they come to me, you know, like—that's how being, like, career law, it's just being big and intimidating. Because that's—I mean security kind of is that way. But, you know, I've got a story for you. This one's a little more bleak.I don't know if there's a company called Ask.fm—and I'll mention them by name—right, because, well, I worked for a company that did, like, a hostile takeover this company. And that's when I started working with [unintelligible 00:25:23]. [unintelligible 00:25:24]. I speak Russian and I learned it for work. I'm not Russian, but I learned the language so that I could do my job.And I was working for a company with a similar name. And we were in board meetings and we were crying, literally shedding tears in the boardroom because this other company was being mistaken for us. And the reason why we were shedding tears is because young women—you know, 11 to 13—were committing suicide because of online bullying. They had no health and safety department, no security department. We were furious.So, the company was hosted in Latvia, and we went over there and we installed one I lived in Latvia for quite a bit, working as the CISO to install a security program along with the health and safety person to install the moderation team. This is what we need to do in the industry, especially when it comes to children, right? Well, regulation solve it? I don't know.But what you're talking about the Pokémon video game, I remember that right? We can't have that kind of data being leaked. These are children. We need to protect them with information security. And in education technology, I'll tell you, it's just not a budget priority.So, the parents need to demand the security, we need to demand these audit certifications, and we need to demand that our audit firms are audited better. Our audit firms need to be explaining to security leaders that the control frameworks are something that they're responsible for creating bespoke. I did a presentation with Al Kingsley recently about security compliance, comparing FERPA and COPPA to the GDPR. And it was very interesting because FERPA has very little teeth, it's very long code and GDPR is relatively brilliant. GDPR made some changes. FERPA was so ambiguous and vague, it made a lot of changes, but they were kind of like, in any direction ever because nobody knows FERPA is. So, I don't know, what's the answer to that? What do we do?Corey: Yeah. The challenge is, you can see a lot of companies in specific areas doing the right thing, when they're intentionally going out on day one to, for example, service kids as a primary user base demographic. The challenge that you see with this is that, that's great, but then you have things that are not starting off with that point of view. And they started running into population limits and realize, okay, we've got to start expanding our user base somewhere, and then they went a bolting on those things is almost as an afterthought, where, “Oh, well, we've been basically misusing people's data for our entire existence, but now—now—we're suddenly magically going to do the right thing where kids are concerned.” I wish, but unfortunate that philosophy assumes a better take of humanity than is readily apparent.Jack: I wonder why they do that though, right? Something's got to, you know, news happened or something and that's why they're doing it. And that's not okay. But I have seen companies, one of the founders of Scantron—do you know what a Scantron is?Corey: Oh, yes. I'm much older than I look.Jack: Yeah, I'm much older than I look, too. I like to think that. But for those that don't know, a scantron, use a number two pencil and you filled in these little dots. And it was for taking tests. So, the guy who started Scantron, created a small two-person company.And AWS did something magnificent. They recognized that it was an education technology company, and they gave them, for free, security consultation services, security implementation services. And when we bought this company—I'm heavily involved in M&A, right—I'm sitting down with the two founders of the company, and my jaw is on the desk. They were more secure than a lot of the companies that I've worked with that had robust security departments. And I said, “How did you do this?”They said, “AWS provided us with this free service because we're education technology.” I teared up. My heart was—you know, that's amazing. So, there are companies that are doing this right, but then again, look at Grammarly. I hate to pick on Grammarly. LanguageTool is an open-source I believe, privacy-centric Grammarly competitor, but Grammarly, invest in your security a little more, man. Y'all were breached. They store a lot of data, they [unintelligible 00:29:10] lot of the data.Corey: Oh, and it scared the living hell out of companies realizing that they had business users using Grammarly as an extension to work on internal documents and just sending proprietary data to some third-party service that they clicked through the terms on and I don't know that it was ever shown the Grammarly was misusing any of that, but the potential for that is massive.Jack: Do you know what they were doing with it?Corey: Well, using AI to learn these things. Yeah, but it's the supervision story always involves humans reading it.Jack: They were building a—and I think—nobody knows the rumor, but I've worked in the industry, right, pretty heavily. They're doing something great for the world. I believe they're building a database of works submitted to do various things with them. One of those things is plagiarism detection. So, in order to do that they got to store, like, all of the data that they're processing.Well, if you have all the data that you've done for your company that's sitting in this Grammarly database and they get hacked—luckily, that's a lot of data. Maybe you'll be overlooked. But I've data breach database sitting here on my desk. Do you know how many rows it's got? [pause]. Yes, breach database.Corey: Oh, I wouldn't even begin to guess. I know the data volumes that Troy Hunt's Have I Been Pwned? Site winds up dealing with and it is… significant.Jack: How many billions of rows do you think it is?Corey: Ah, I'd say 20 as an argument?Jack: 34.Corey: Okay. Yeah, directionally right. Fermi estimation saves us yet again.Jack: [laugh]. The reason I build this breach database is because I thought Covid would slow down and I wanted it to do executive protection. Companies in the education space also suffer from [active 00:30:42] shooters and that sort of thing. So, that's another thing about security, too, is it transcends all these interesting areas, right? Like here, I'm doing executive risk protection by looking at open-source data.Protect the executives, show the executives that security is a concern, these executives that'll realize security's real. Then these past that security down in the list of priorities, and next thing you know, the 50 million active students that are using Turnitin are getting better security. Because an executive realized, “Hey, wait a minute, this is a real thing.” So, there's a lot of ways around this, but I don't know, it's a big space, there's a lot of competition. There's a lot of companies that are coming in and flashing out of the pan.A lot of companies are coming in and building snake oil. How do people know how to determine the right things to use? How do people don't want to implement? How do people understand that when they deploy a program that only applies to their cloud environment it doesn't touch there on-prem where a lot of data might be a risk? And how do we work together? How do we get teams like DevOps, IT, SecOps, to not fight each other for installing an agent for doing this?Now, when I looked at Uptycs, I said, “Well, it does the EDR for corp stuff, it does the host intrusion detection, you know, the agent-based stuff, I think, for the well because it uses a buzzword I don't like to use, osquery. It's got a bunch of cloud security configuration on it, which is pretty commoditized. It does agentless cloud scanning.” And it—really, I spent a lot of my career just struggling to find these tools. I've written some myself.And when I saw Uptycs, I was—I felt stupid. I couldn't believe that I hadn't used this tool, I think maybe they've increased substantially their capabilities, but it was kind of amazing to me that I had spent so much of my time and energy and hadn't found them. Luckily, I decided to joi—actually I didn't decide to join; they kind of decided for me—and they started giving it away for free. But I found that Uptycs needs a, you know, they need a brand refresh. People need to come and take a look and say, “Hey, this isn't the old Uptycs. Take a look.”And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm here as a technology evangelist, and I'll tell you right now, the minute I no longer am evangelists for this technology, the minute I'm no longer passionate about it, I can't do my job. I'm going to go do something else. So, I'm the one guy who will put it to your brass tacks. I want this thing to be the thing I've been passionate about for a long time. I want people to use it.Contact me directly. Tell me what's wrong with it. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm right. I really just want to wrap my head around this from the industry perspective, and say, “Hey, I think that these guys are willing to make the best thing ever.” And I'm the craziest person in security. Now, Corey, who's the craziest person security?Corey: That is a difficult question with many wrong answers.Jack: No, I'm not talking about McAfee, all right. I'm not that level of crazy. But I'm talking about, I was obsessed with this XDR, CDR, all the acronyms. You know, we call it HIDS, I was obsessed with it for years. I worked for all these companies.I quit doing, you know, a lot of very good entrepreneurial work to come work at this company. So, I really do think that they can fix a lot of this stuff. I've got my fingers crossed, but I'm still staying involved in other things to make these technologies better. And the software's security space is going all over the place. Sometimes it's going bad direction, sometimes it's going to good directions. But I agree with you about Amazon producing tools. I think it's just all market-based. People aren't going to use the complex tools of Amazon when there's all this other flashy stuff being advertised.Corey: It all comes down to marketing budget, and AWS has always struggled with telling a story. I really want to thank you for being so generous with your time. If people want to learn more, where should they go?Jack: Oh, gosh, everywhere. But if you want to learn more about Uptycs, why don't you just email me?Corey: We will, of course, put your email address into the show notes.Jack: Yeah, we'll do it.Corey: Don't offer if you're not serious. There's also uptycssecretmenu.com, which is apparently not much of a secret, given the large banner all over Uptycs' website.Jack: Have you seen this? Let me just tell you about this. This is not a catch. I was blown away by this; it's one of the reasons I joined. For a buck, if you have between 100 and 1000 nodes, right, you get our agentless system and our agent-based system, right?I think it's only on AWS. But that's, like, what, $150, $180,000 value? You get it for a full year. You don't have to sign a contract to renew or anything. Like, you just get it for a buck. If anybody who doesn't go on to the secret menu website and pay $1 and check out this agentless solution that deploys in two minutes, come on, man.I challenge everybody, go on there, do that, and tell me what's wrong with it. Go on there, do that, and give me the feedback. And I promise you I'll do everything in my best efforts to make it the best. I saw the engineering team in this company, they care. Ganesh, the CEO, he is not your average CEO.This guy is in tinkerers. He's on there, hands on keyboard. He responds to me in the middle of night. He's a geek just like me. But we need users to give us feedback. So, you got this dollar menu, you sign up before the 31st, right? You get the product for buck. Deploy the thing in two minutes.Then if you want to do the XDR, this agent-based system, you can deploy that at your leisure across whichever areas you want. Maybe you want a corporate network on laptops and desktops, your production infrastructure, your compute in the cloud, deploy it, take a look at it, tell me what's wrong with it, tell me what's right with it. Let's go in there and look at it together. This is my job. I want this company to work, not because they're Uptycs but because I think that they can do it.And this is my personal passion. So, if people hit me up directly, let's chat. We can build a Slack, Uptycs skunkworks. Let's get this stuff perfect. And we're also going to try and get some advisory boards together, like, maybe a CISO advisory board, and just to get more feedback from folks because I think the Uptycs brand has made a huge shift in a really positive direction.And if you look at the great thing here, they're unifying this whole agentless and agent-based stuff. And a lot of companies are saying that they're competing with that, those two things need to be run together, right? They need to be run together. So, I think the next steps here, check out that dollar menu. It's unbelievable. I can't believe that they're doing it.I think people think it's too good to be true. Y'all got nothing to lose. It's a buck. But if you sign up for it right now, before the December 31st, you can just wait and act on it any month later. So, just if you sign up for it, you're just locked into the pricing. And then you want to hit me up and talk about it. Is it three in the morning? You got me. It's it eight in the morning? You got me.Corey: You're more generous than I am. It's why I work on AWS bills. It's strictly a business-hours problem.Jack: This is not something that they pay me for. This is just part of my personal passion. I have struggled to get this thing built correctly because I truly believe not only is it really cool—and I'm not talking about Uptycs, I mean all the companies that are out there—but I think that this could be the most powerful tool in security that makes the world more secure. Like, in a way that keeps up with the security risks increasing.We just need to get customers, we need to get critics, and if you're somebody who wants to come in and prove me wrong, I need help. I need people to take a look at it for me. So, it's free. And if you're in the San Francisco Bay Area and you give me some good feedback and all that, I'll take you out to dinner, I'll introduce you to startup companies that I think, you know, you might want to advise. I'll help out your career.Corey: So, it truly is dollar menu then.Jack: Well, I'm paying for the dinner out my personal thing.Corey: Exactly. Well, again, you're also paying for the infrastructure required to provide the service, so, you know, one way or another, it's all the best—it's just like Cloud, there is no cloud. It's just someone else's cost center. I like that.Jack: Well, yeah, we're paying for a ton of data hosting. This is a huge loss leader. Uptycs has a lot of money in the bank, I think, so they're able to do this. Uptycs just needs to get a little more bold in their marketing because I think they've spent so much time building an awesome product, it's time that we get people to see it. That's why I did this.My career was going phenomenally. I was traveling the world, traveling the country promoting things, just getting deals left and right and then Elias—my buddy over at Orca; Elias, one of the best marketing guys I've ever met—I've never done marketing before. I love this. It's not just marketing. It's like I get to take feedback from people and make the product better and this is what I've been trying to do.So, you're talking to a crazy person in security. I will go well above and beyond. Sign up for that dollar menu. I'm telling you, it is no commitment, maybe you'll get some spam email or something like that. Email me directly, I'll kill the spam email.You can do it anytime before the end of 2023. But it's only for 2023. So, you got a full year of the services for free. For free, right? And one of them takes two minutes to deploy, so start with that one. Let me know what you think. These guys ideate and they pivot very quickly. I would love to work on this. This is why I came here.So, I haven't had a lot of opportunity to work with the practitioners. I'm there for you. I'll create a Slack, we can all work together. I'll invite you to my Slack if you want to get involved in secondaries investing and startup advisory. I'm a mentor and a leader in this space, so for me to be able to stay active, this is like a quid pro quo with me working for this company.Uptycs is the company that I've chosen now because I think that they're the ones that are doing this. But I'm doing this because I think I found the opportunity to get it done right, and I think it's going to be the one thing in security that when it is perfected, has the biggest impact.Corey: We'll see how it goes out over the coming year, I'm sure. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. I appreciate it.Jack: I like you. I like you, Corey.Corey: I like me too.Jack: Yeah? All right. Okay. I'm telling [unintelligible 00:39:51] something. You and I are very weird.Corey: It works out.Jack: Yeah.Corey: Jack Charles Roehrig, Technology Evangelist at Uptycs. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn and this is Screaming in the Cloud. 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Strengthen a Connection by Asking Questions [Topic: Strengthen a Connection by Asking Questions] HOST: So what's the best way of showing interest in people and building rapport? Of connecting and clarifying? What am I doing right now? That's right – asking questions! [Sofia, Jack, Sulyn, and Jason are in a meeting.] JACK: How are the sessions going, Sofia? SOFIA: Great! SULYN: [Sulyn looks up from her paperwork.] Think the team will go for it? SOFIA: They'll love it. JASON: If you wanted to change the whole project, what would you do? SOFIA: Let me think about that. JACK: How do you take your coffee? SOFIA: Triple, tall, half sweet, non-fat, caramel macchiato…I think. [Sofia laughs.] HOST: When people ask questions, usually they just want to know more, or they're looking for clarification on something specific. So think of questions as either connecting questions or clarifying questions. When you're first getting to know someone, you're just looking to connect, right? You want to start up a conversation. Your intent is one of connection. Asking connecting questions can help you build rapport with anyone, including the people you work with. But connecting with another person rarely happens right away. So you need to pace your questions – start small and broaden them out as you go along. So you'd start by asking an easy question as an "opener" like Jack did with Sofia. Then acknowledge the reply, maybe by saying "That's interesting." It's also okay to ask another question to seek out additional input if you need to – these are the "tell me more about that" types of questions. But remember – what you ask should be relevant. And remember to clarify. A good way of doing this is paraphrasing some of what you've been told up to that point. You could say, "It sounds like you're confident this will work?" But pause occasionally or wait for an invitation to engage further – you don't want to seem as if you're cross-examining! And typically, when we're getting to know someone, we don't have a lot of time to talk at length. So you may need to seek permission to follow up. Ask if you can pick up on the conversation again or exchange contact information to talk at a more convenient time. And that's mutually beneficial – you seem interested, and the other person will also feel appreciated. This helps build rapport in any relationship. [Sulyn and Sofia are in a meeting.] SULYN: So what you're pointing out, Sofia…I'm guessing you don't like the logo? SOFIA: I don't dislike it…it just could be better. SULYN: How would you suggest we change it? SOFIA: I've got a few ideas. SULYN: Great. I really want to be clear about what needs to be done. HOST: Clarifying questions are crucial in a business environment, because they reinforce understanding. They're also great for getting to the bottom of wrong assumptions or misunderstandings. So stop worrying about seeming uninformed. Ask questions to get to know everything you need – whether it's connecting with someone or hammering out the details of a business plan.

Michael is one of the founding members of the famous Whitaker showjumping dynasty. He first came to fame in 1980 when he won the Hickstead Derby on his first attempt, at the age of 20. He went on to win this iconic competition another three times. Michael has also won Olympic team silver at the 1994 Olympics, and a haul of European Championship medals, including two team gold and individual silver. However, individual gold still eludes the 60-year-old - which is still hopes to win with his top horse Valmy de Lande. Michael talks about his future ambitions in this interview, as well as his past successes. We also talk about: How winning the Hickstead Derby on his debut changed his life The secret to his very long success The horses that made his career The riders he respects - and learns from Passing on his years of experience to his son, Jack How showjumping has changed over the years, and how he has had to adapt his riding to stay competitive The impact of the Global Champions Tour on showjumping The Whitaker showjumping dynasty - find out who he thinks is the most talented, who is the stroppiest and who is the last one at the bar! Why his former top horse Viking lives out - 24/7 I hope you enjoy listening as much I enjoyed making it. If you do, please don't forget to 'like and subscribe'. Happy riding!

We're back after a short hiatus! Having a full time job can be draining, just like Locke's office job- better check our bags for knives. We're back to one of the earliest episodes as we discover the origins of the show's mysteries that EVERYONE knows. Everyone but Danielle, as she tries to figure out who the older, nicely dressed man is creeping on Jack? How is it that so many characters stare right up at a giant monster (possibly digger?) and still not describe what it looks like? Does Shannon have any redeeming qualities? Episode beverage: Gosefish by Ghostfish Brewing Company

We’re so happy to welcome Leka back this week to talk about this Eko episode! #LostLadNess is still going on. Who’s the hunkiest lad on Lost? This week, we’re asking: What was Terminal Velocity about? Did Libby get Kevorkianed by Jack? How do you deal with shrinkage? Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter: @WhatBroPod… Read more 75: S2E21, ?

Slackers Studio: A Podcast for Slackers - Games, Movies, Beer and Fun! Episode 10: Divided by Faction, but not by Fandom This weeks beer is Golden Champion - Badger Beer Our Lives This Week; Ed’s Week; - Fairly chilled first full week back after holidays - Explosive Coffee Jack’s Week; - 3D - Lots of, I feel a lot more confident - Moving forward - Life, the next goal etc ED’s Week In Gaming; - Mostly WoW this week, in fact. Only WoW! With some more WoW! - The world pve scaling is BROKEN AF. Jack’s Week In Gaming; - 120 on Rogue, rep grinds, pterrodax training - RAN MY FIRST MYTHIC - Got ruined by a warrior, World pvp, the fun and the not-so-fun Movies/TV: Ed watched; - Disenchantment - Netflix and Matt Groening - Mission Impossible Fallout Jack watched; - Mission Impossible Fallout - Disenchantment - First Episode - The Last Kingdom and Vikings - Jihad - A story of others - The Lady in the Van - Calvary - Started to watch Bronson Tech Stuff: ED: New Nvidia GPUs Launching late Sept. 2070/2080/Ti JACK: - Got a GTX 1070 TI finally, - Got a SSD finally - Got a new fekin’ Case, finally. WEEKLY TOPIC! Gamer Rage ED: - I am normally pretty chill. - If I get annoyed at anything… It’s normally myself! - Overwatch is the most frustrating game I have ever played. - FUCKING OVERWATCH. (written after playing it again) Some games can be so challenging that I get annoyed with, it often it’s because I actually don’t understand a mechanic and I don’t realise it yet. OR it’s a bug and I don’t realise that either. - That or I just suck. JACK: - Competing - What it means to me - How shit was I at sports growing up - Gamer rage - one of my biggest flaws - Why does it come about? - WHAT GAMES INFURITATE ME - WHAT GAMES comfort the Jack - How have I started to combat this? - How far do I have to go? Join us on DISCORD: discord.gg/Mct3GuD www.slackersstudio.co.uk/ MUSIC USED: Intro/Outro "Tempest" by RhoMusic www.youtube.com/channel/UCm2l0TFmixfahHLxpdyV5Uw Music provided by Non Copyrighted Music: youtu.be/OijNk1pxsgc Beer: "The Red Fox Tavern" by Curran Son SOUNDCLOUD - @curran-son FACEBOOK PAGE - www.facebook.com/soncurran/ ------ This Podcast uses these sounds from freesound: Background Theme 1 by Speedenza(freesound.org/people/Speedenza/ ) Movies and TV: Many thanks to the producer, Ross Budgen: goo.gl/pFYOG8 Check him out, he is an outstanding music maker! Tech Stuff: Artist: Nicolai Heidlas Title: Flaming Energy Download the song here: www.hooksounds.com/royalty-free-mu…-energy/289750/

Tonight we discuss every ones favorite movie protaganists? How much do Gene and Curt gang up on Jack? How much trash talking does Curt throw around then claim to be the victim? Tune in and find out!

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【福利放送】发送关键字“日常英语”至微信公众号“老虎小助手”，可以领取Helen姐姐和大米姐姐为大家精心准备的电子大礼包哟！里边有姐姐靓照、自制的起床闹铃、精彩的英语趣配音、演唱的歌曲、最新的画作以及全套《英语日常用语2000句》音频噢！英语日常用语（121）-I'm confused.Where are we now？我糊涂了，我们现在在什么地方呢？在陌生城市时偶尔也会遇到一些棘手的紧急情况，此时切忌惊慌失措，适当的时候可以向他人求救。 必备词get lost迷路 point out指出guide带领 remind提醒be stuck in困于 traffic light交通灯emergency紧急情况 Lost and Found Office失物招领处confused困惑的 report the loss of one's passport护照挂失ask sb. for help求某人帮忙 as soon as possible尽快在一个陌生的城市出差，很容易遇到语言不通的情况，和当地人沟通时你可以这样向对方说明。My English is not good enough. 我的英语不太好。Can you talk a little slower please? 您能慢一点说吗?I don't know how to say it in English.我不知道这用英文怎么说。What's this called in English? 英文管这叫什么?I'll need a guide who can speak Chinese.我想请一位会说汉语的导游。旅游时遇到紧急情况，要懂得向他人求救哦!I lost my keys, can you help me? 我的钥匙丢了，你能帮我吗?I am stuck in the elevator and cannot get out. 我被关在电梯里出不去了。对于路痴的人来说，在陌生城市迷路就是家常便饭，一起来看看迷路了怎么问路吧!I'm confused. Where are we now? 我糊涂了，我们现在在什么地方?Can you tell me where we are now? 我能问您一下我们现在在什么地方吗?What town are we near? 我们靠近哪个城镇?I was wondering if you could help me. I've got lost on my way to the hotel. 劳驾，请帮忙，我找不到回旅馆的路了。Where's the nearest bus stop? 请问最近的公交站牌在哪里?Thank you very much. I think I've got it. 非常感谢你，我想我知道了。Are there any public phones nearby?附近有没有公用电话?旅行必备物品passport护照 cash and credit card现金和信用卡drug药品 city map城市地图cell phone手机 travelling map旅行地图实景对话一．A:We should ask someone for directions.我们应该找人问问路。B:But can't speak French.但我不会说法语(I don't know any French.)二．A:I can't make my point across. 我不能表述清楚我的观点。B:Do you have a dictionary? Maybe that would help. 你有词典吗?或许那会有用。(I can't get through to him.He doesn't understand me.I can't say what I'm trying to.I can't get him to understand me.)三．A: Help! I'm stuck in the elevator and the doors won't open.救命啊!我被困在电梯里了，门是锁着的。B: Hold on! I'll get someone to get you out of there.等着!我叫人救你出来。(Somebody! 来人呀!Somebody help me!)A: Somebody! 来人呀!B: What's the matter? 怎么了?四．A: l am having trouble getting to the train station. 我找不到去火车站的路了。B: Let me show you on this map.我在地图上指给你看。(还可以说I don't know how to get to the train station.I can't find the way to the train station.I need to go to the train station but can't find it.)五．A: Can you tell me where the mall is? 你能告诉我购物中心在哪儿吗?B: I'm sorry. This is my first time here.对不起，我也是初来此地。(Sorry, I've never been here before.)情景对话Jack : Excuse me. I'm kind of lost here. Could you tell me how to get to the Garden Plaza?Bob: Go down this street, and then take a left. You will find it on your left.Jack: How far is it from here?Bob: About six kilometers.Jack: Is there a bus to Garden Plaza nearby ?Bob: Yes, take the one-way street. You will stay on the street for a while until you hit the first traffic light. You will find the bus station. Take the bus No. 231 , get off at the Garden Plaza bus stop.Jack : Thank you very much.Bob: You are welcome.译文：Jack :打扰了，我有些迷路了，请问如何去花园广场呢?Bob:沿着这条路走，然后左转。在你的左手边就是了。Jack :离这里大概多远呢?Bob:大约6干米。Jack :这附近有到那里的公交车吗?Bob:有，走这条单行道，你会走一会儿，直到你遇到第三个红绿灯。坐231路公共汽车，在花园广场下。Jack :非常感谢您。Bob:不客气。结束歌曲：Love, Don't Let Me Go歌手：Matt Dusk

【福利放送】发送关键字“日常英语”至微信公众号“老虎小助手”，可以领取Helen姐姐和大米姐姐为大家精心准备的电子大礼包哟！里边有姐姐靓照、自制的起床闹铃、精彩的英语趣配音、演唱的歌曲、最新的画作以及全套《英语日常用语2000句》音频噢！英语日常用语（121）-I'm confused.Where are we now？我糊涂了，我们现在在什么地方呢？在陌生城市时偶尔也会遇到一些棘手的紧急情况，此时切忌惊慌失措，适当的时候可以向他人求救。 必备词get lost迷路 point out指出guide带领 remind提醒be stuck in困于 traffic light交通灯emergency紧急情况 Lost and Found Office失物招领处confused困惑的 report the loss of one's passport护照挂失ask sb. for help求某人帮忙 as soon as possible尽快在一个陌生的城市出差，很容易遇到语言不通的情况，和当地人沟通时你可以这样向对方说明。My English is not good enough. 我的英语不太好。Can you talk a little slower please? 您能慢一点说吗?I don't know how to say it in English.我不知道这用英文怎么说。What's this called in English? 英文管这叫什么?I'll need a guide who can speak Chinese.我想请一位会说汉语的导游。旅游时遇到紧急情况，要懂得向他人求救哦!I lost my keys, can you help me? 我的钥匙丢了，你能帮我吗?I am stuck in the elevator and cannot get out. 我被关在电梯里出不去了。对于路痴的人来说，在陌生城市迷路就是家常便饭，一起来看看迷路了怎么问路吧!I'm confused. Where are we now? 我糊涂了，我们现在在什么地方?Can you tell me where we are now? 我能问您一下我们现在在什么地方吗?What town are we near? 我们靠近哪个城镇?I was wondering if you could help me. I've got lost on my way to the hotel. 劳驾，请帮忙，我找不到回旅馆的路了。Where's the nearest bus stop? 请问最近的公交站牌在哪里?Thank you very much. I think I've got it. 非常感谢你，我想我知道了。Are there any public phones nearby?附近有没有公用电话?旅行必备物品passport护照 cash and credit card现金和信用卡drug药品 city map城市地图cell phone手机 travelling map旅行地图实景对话一．A:We should ask someone for directions.我们应该找人问问路。B:But can't speak French.但我不会说法语(I don't know any French.)二．A:I can't make my point across. 我不能表述清楚我的观点。B:Do you have a dictionary? Maybe that would help. 你有词典吗?或许那会有用。(I can't get through to him.He doesn't understand me.I can't say what I'm trying to.I can't get him to understand me.)三．A: Help! I'm stuck in the elevator and the doors won't open.救命啊!我被困在电梯里了，门是锁着的。B: Hold on! I'll get someone to get you out of there.等着!我叫人救你出来。(Somebody! 来人呀!Somebody help me!)A: Somebody! 来人呀!B: What's the matter? 怎么了?四．A: l am having trouble getting to the train station. 我找不到去火车站的路了。B: Let me show you on this map.我在地图上指给你看。(还可以说I don't know how to get to the train station.I can't find the way to the train station.I need to go to the train station but can't find it.)五．A: Can you tell me where the mall is? 你能告诉我购物中心在哪儿吗?B: I'm sorry. This is my first time here.对不起，我也是初来此地。(Sorry, I've never been here before.)情景对话Jack : Excuse me. I'm kind of lost here. Could you tell me how to get to the Garden Plaza?Bob: Go down this street, and then take a left. You will find it on your left.Jack: How far is it from here?Bob: About six kilometers.Jack: Is there a bus to Garden Plaza nearby ?Bob: Yes, take the one-way street. You will stay on the street for a while until you hit the first traffic light. You will find the bus station. Take the bus No. 231 , get off at the Garden Plaza bus stop.Jack : Thank you very much.Bob: You are welcome.译文：Jack :打扰了，我有些迷路了，请问如何去花园广场呢?Bob:沿着这条路走，然后左转。在你的左手边就是了。Jack :离这里大概多远呢?Bob:大约6干米。Jack :这附近有到那里的公交车吗?Bob:有，走这条单行道，你会走一会儿，直到你遇到第三个红绿灯。坐231路公共汽车，在花园广场下。Jack :非常感谢您。Bob:不客气。结束歌曲：Love, Don't Let Me Go歌手：Matt Dusk

How to Hack Your Time Management (CFFL 494) Transcript: Jack:                      Jack with Jill. Jill:                          Hey. Jack:                      Welcome to our show today. In this episode Jill and I talk about how to hack your time management. What the heck is he going to talk about with this? Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on landinvestors.com online community. It's free. Jill:                          Okay. Matt asked risks ... Oh, this is the topic of it, of this thread, which is with a question. Risks associated with letting people build an owner financed properties. Okay, so here's the question. I have a number of folks who have purchased properties from me that are coming back and asking me if they can make improvements on the properties before they pay off your loan to me. Jack:                      Congratulations, by the way Matt. You're doing everything right. If they want to build on a property that you sold them you're doing something right. Jill:                          Mm-hmm (affirmative). Jack:                      Go ahead, Jill. Jill:                          Okay. I have it on all my contract that they cannot not make improvements on it until the loan is fully paid back and they have the deed for the property in hand. Some people are coming back and just wanting to clear the property of underbrush, some want to add a slave for their our RV, and others want to clear the property and build a home on it so they can move there. What risk a, I incurring if I allow folks I have on terms to do these things? Jack:                      Can I go first? Jill:                          Yeah. Jack:                      I can't say this ... I'm going to say it for more times probably before we're done answering this question. Congratulations for the types of property and the deals that you are doing where they want to build on it and they're visiting the property, and I love it, and they're thanking you, and they're calling you. You are doing every single thing right. The flip side of that is they go out, and see it and they hate it, and they want their money back. All right. So, that's a problem. You don't have a problem here. You have a fantastic situation for several reasons. What risks are you incurring? None, in my opinion. And I mean none. The only thing they can go wrong here is that they dump on the land, right? They put some, I don't know, a refrigerator with Freon in it or some messy environmental scenario but that's the only bad thing. So, now that we got the bad stuff out of the way, how do you win here? Let's say they don't pay the loan off. Now you own all the improvements that whatever they did to it, you own it. Jill:                          Mm-hmm (affirmative). I love it. I'd love to have a slab on it that somebody did to drive their RV up on it. So I think that's the coolest thing on the planet. Jack:                      The more time they spend there, the more stuff that they do and they like it or whatever happens the higher possibility that they're going to pay the loan off. In fact, I would even venture to say this, and I've done this in the past with great success, "Oh, you know what Mr. Smith? If you really want to build a house, you want to clear the brush, an RV and you're going to use a property like you really intended, what do you say we cut a deal?" Jill:                          I was going to say the same thing. Yeah. Jack:                      How about I give you a 25% off if you just pay it off. Jill:                          Yep ,if you can afford to do that, then you can afford to do this. Jack:                      What do you say we just re-cut the deal and now you make 10 equal payments of $1000? All right, in 10 months and I'll deed it to you. Or something like that. Jill:                          Exactly. Jack:                      If you have an owner that...

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Flip Houses 3 of 3 Mail Merge Print and Send Jack Butala: Flip Houses 3 of 3 Mail Merge Print and Send. Every Single month we give away a property for free. It's super simple to qualify. Two simple steps. Leave us your feedback for this podcast on iTunes and number two, get the free ebook at landacademy.com, you don't even have to read it. Thanks for listening. Jack: It's Jack Butella for Land Academy. Welcome to our Cashflow from Land show. We show you how to buy property for half of what it's worth and resell it the very next day. Great information and instruction from Jack, that's me. Jill: And inspiration from Jill. That's me. Jack: There's some funny stuff that happened to us recently. Jill, I can't believe that an Uber driver can tell you their whole life story in 6 minutes flat. Jill: Isn't it hilarious? It's so funny. Jack: We had an Uber driver last night and she was from Germany. She got married to an American and lives here now, lives in California. She told us her whole life story. Jill: It's hilarious. Jack: What it ended up being, her whole life story, the differences the way people drive in Europe and the way that people drive in California. I have to say, I think she was right. Jill: I totally agree. The whole valet parking thing I thought was really funny, too. I'll add that. Jack: Yeah, go ahead. It's the pass left thing that'll stick with me forever. Jill: The pass left? Jack: The left lane is for passing. Jill: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack: I'm from Detroit, that's how we learn it there too. Jill: Exactly. Jack: It's not for driving on. Jill: Exactly. Jack: If you have a white minivan and 430 people in your care and you're driving in the left lane and 45 miles an hour, this is for you. Jill: Watch out. Jack: Please don't do that. Jill: I love it. Oh my gosh. Jack: The Uber driver felt the same way. Jill: Right. That's so funny. Yeah, this was 6 minutes of a lot of laughing. It was hilarious. My favorite story was when she talked about her dad coming over. Her dad was appalled at the valet parking. Wait a minute, you mean I'm coming to your restaurant and I have to pay to leave my car to go to your restaurant? I'm like, "You know, I never really thought about it. I'm just kind of used to it." The dad was pissed off about that. Jack: He was. Jill: It was really funny. Jack: You know what my response is? I think he's probably right. Jill: I think he's right, too. Jack: Why am I paying to park if I'm coming to your place? Jill: Exactly. It was so darn funny. That was just a thing that just got to him. What was so cute too was I kind of felt bad for her, it sounds like her family came out and they visited and they're not coming back. Jack: Yeah. She said, "I think that's about it." Jill: Yeah, I guess she's got to go visit them there. For some people, that's okay. Jack: Right. Hey, in this episode, Jill and I talk about flipping houses. This is little mini episode 3 of 3. It's called Mail, Merge, Print, and Send. It's a piece of this that I don't think it's talked about enough and we don't get enough questions about it. It seems just, I guess, a mechanical piece. I'm going to try to make this as fun as possible, okay Jill? Jill: Got it. Jack: Great show. Before we start, let's take a question posted by one of our members on successplan.com, our free online community. Jill: Jason from Michigan called in and asked: I have your Day to Doorstep program and I'm amazed at the amount of data available. Jack: I like where this is going. Jill: I like this, too. It's very true. It's awesome. How to remove the houses with mortgages, is there a place to get an overview on this product? Nice question. Jack: How do you move all the houses with mortgages?

Flip Houses 3 of 3 Mail Merge Print and Send Jack Butala: Flip Houses 3 of 3 Mail Merge Print and Send. Every Single month we give away a property for free. It's super simple to qualify. Two simple steps. Leave us your feedback for this podcast on iTunes and number two, get the free ebook at landacademy.com, you don't even have to read it. Thanks for listening. Jack: It's Jack Butella for Land Academy. Welcome to our Cashflow from Land show. We show you how to buy property for half of what it's worth and resell it the very next day. Great information and instruction from Jack, that's me. Jill: And inspiration from Jill. That's me. Jack: There's some funny stuff that happened to us recently. Jill, I can't believe that an Uber driver can tell you their whole life story in 6 minutes flat. Jill: Isn't it hilarious? It's so funny. Jack: We had an Uber driver last night and she was from Germany. She got married to an American and lives here now, lives in California. She told us her whole life story. Jill: It's hilarious. Jack: What it ended up being, her whole life story, the differences the way people drive in Europe and the way that people drive in California. I have to say, I think she was right. Jill: I totally agree. The whole valet parking thing I thought was really funny, too. I'll add that. Jack: Yeah, go ahead. It's the pass left thing that'll stick with me forever. Jill: The pass left? Jack: The left lane is for passing. Jill: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack: I'm from Detroit, that's how we learn it there too. Jill: Exactly. Jack: It's not for driving on. Jill: Exactly. Jack: If you have a white minivan and 430 people in your care and you're driving in the left lane and 45 miles an hour, this is for you. Jill: Watch out. Jack: Please don't do that. Jill: I love it. Oh my gosh. Jack: The Uber driver felt the same way. Jill: Right. That's so funny. Yeah, this was 6 minutes of a lot of laughing. It was hilarious. My favorite story was when she talked about her dad coming over. Her dad was appalled at the valet parking. Wait a minute, you mean I'm coming to your restaurant and I have to pay to leave my car to go to your restaurant? I'm like, "You know, I never really thought about it. I'm just kind of used to it." The dad was pissed off about that. Jack: He was. Jill: It was really funny. Jack: You know what my response is? I think he's probably right. Jill: I think he's right, too. Jack: Why am I paying to park if I'm coming to your place? Jill: Exactly. It was so darn funny. That was just a thing that just got to him. What was so cute too was I kind of felt bad for her, it sounds like her family came out and they visited and they're not coming back. Jack: Yeah. She said, "I think that's about it." Jill: Yeah, I guess she's got to go visit them there. For some people, that's okay. Jack: Right. Hey, in this episode, Jill and I talk about flipping houses. This is little mini episode 3 of 3. It's called Mail, Merge, Print, and Send. It's a piece of this that I don't think it's talked about enough and we don't get enough questions about it. It seems just, I guess, a mechanical piece. I'm going to try to make this as fun as possible, okay Jill? Jill: Got it. Jack: Great show. Before we start, let's take a question posted by one of our members on successplan.com, our free online community. Jill: Jason from Michigan called in and asked: I have your Day to Doorstep program and I'm amazed at the amount of data available. Jack: I like where this is going. Jill: I like this, too. It's very true. It's awesome. How to remove the houses with mortgages, is there a place to get an overview on this product? Nice question. Jack: How do you move all the houses with mortgages?

TIN DOG INTRO MUSIC   To celebrate the first birthday of the Doctor Who TIN DOG Podcast (and my own birthday on March 4th), I present a short episode of Torchwood for your enjoyment. And thanks for listening to me ramble on for a year.   TIN DOG: This story is meant with the greatest and fondest respect to the works of Oliver Postgate , Peter Firmin, Russel T Davies and everyone else who has kept the blue light flashing. No breach of copyright is meant in any way. Please enjoy this special anniversary story to celebrate the Tin Dog Podcasts first Birthday. I present a one of Audio story with those lovely people from the popular secret organisation “Torchwood?.   NARRATOR: In the bottom left hand comer of Wales, a meeting is taking place around an ikea table. Lets listen in…   IANTO: “I have been monitoring activity around the hell mouth... er anomaly.. erm... I mean.. Rift and its been surprisingly quiet which means we can re-investigate some of the unsolved Torchwood files.?   NARRATOR: The thin one with the dry whit gets out a file and blows dust off it in the sort of way Eric Morecambe would look at Ernie Wises wallet.   GRAMS FX- blow... cough   IANTO: This is one that dates back decades. The winged monsters of Tan-y-gwlch.     OWEN “you know the rules we do not investigate anything we can't have sex with... apples and pares – queen mother – gawd bless her.   IANTO: ah but.. Monkey boy... but this is season two and we seem to be moving away from pointless sex scenes so I thought we might look at this.   GWEN: BUT this isn't happening in Cardiff... and you know the only time we leave Cardiff's in unseen adventures and spin off novels... oh and Audio Books... as a rule we don't ever set foot outside Cardiff... Couldn't we just send UNIT?   NARRATOR said Gwen   IANTO: This IS an Audio adventure which gives us an unlimited travel budget.. I have rang UNIT and they are apparently busy denying any links with the United Nations then they are all booked up recording a spin off story for Big Finish... which only leaves only US... Jack do you want to do the voice over?   JACK: Torchwood. Outside the Government, Beyond the police, Of Junction 21 next door to Comet electrical.   IANTO: Quickly... to the Torchwood Mobile... and on to North Wales. GRAMS MUSIC: Ivor the engine Music.   NARRATOR: Oh hello ivor..   IVOR: Ba Baaaa!   NARRATOR: Having a busy day   IVOR: Ba Baaaa!   NARRATOR: What are you upto today? Taking coal to grumby town? New shoes for a new hat for Mrs Dinwiddy? Saving sheep from the snow?   IVOR: Ba Baaaa!   NARRATOR: Oh I see... You're off to see your friends Idris and Blodwin the dragons.   NARRATOR: Oh look Ivor... you have visitors...   IVOR: bo bo bbbooooo...   NARRATOR: No there not the English coming to stay in their cottage for one week of the year and drive up house prices... its those pesky Torchwood lot... yes Ivor the famous secret organisation.   IVOR: ba ba   JONES THE STEAM: Oh hello Mister Harkness. Can I ask you a question   NARATOR: asked the hither too silent Jones the Steam   JACK: Sure   JONES THE STEAM: How come you get to walk the streets with a Webly Mark Four on your hip and no one bats an eyelid. This is the Wales after all you know not down town LA or something.     JACK: It helps us sell the show to Americans. I mean who would watch a show where the heroes didn't have a gun and solved things using their intellect and cunning...   GRAMS: FX Few bars of Doctor Who music   JONES THE STEAM: Oh I guess you have a point. I just assumed you were over compensating for something. How can I help you today?   GWEN: Flying Lizards   JONES THE STEAM: Ah you mean the Dragons...   IVOR: Booo Baa Baaa..   JONES THE STEAM: Quite right Ivor... I mean you mean the non-excitant Dragons on the extinct volcano.   IVOR: Booo Baa Baaa..     JONES THE STEAM: Oh you and your fast talking city ways. I obviously mean the non-existent dragons that defiantly don't live anywhere round here…because they're not real...   JACK: How are we doing for time Gwen?   GWEN: Well were past over half way through the episode... so I think were just about to come up with a working hypothesis. So I recon that the Dragons are real and that they are in the extinct volcano... the one over there in fact – Boyo.   OWEN: Jack. I hate to be the one to say this but theres been no homosexualist kissing so far...Apples and pairs   JONES THE STEAM: Oh is that what you think? Me and Di station have been doing little Britain “only gay in the village? jokes all morning... mind you I'm sure you lot do those all the time down there in Cardiff... and not you lot are here its just going to become a joke too far if I bring that up again.   DI STATION: Good point Jones.     JACK: Lets go to the mountain.   IVOR: Booo Baa Baaa..   JONES THE STEAM: Ivor says he can give you a lift if you want... I must say thats very good of you Ivor.   IVOR: Booo Baa Baaa..   JONES THE STEAM: ah... so you think the plot is flagging and you want to move things along.   JACK Lets leave the Torchwood Mobile here and head out.   GRAMS: Ivor travel music.   JONES THE STEAM: Gwen. I have a question for you. “Why doesnt your hair EVER move? Is it a wig? Come on you can tell me... Oh. look ivor.. were here.   GRAMS : steam fx   JACK: Tosh. You've been quiet… Oh you have a sore thought and the narrator doest think he is up to doing your voice, well he is butchering any attempt at mine. Anything on the tricorder… I mean non copyright breaching scaning device?.. GRAMS FX – Bleeping   JONES THE STEAM: Do you think its noticed those dragons?   GWEN: What the red heraldic ones spinning meters above us?   JACK: Gwen? What's that flashing? is it one of those anomalies from primeval?   GWEN: No it's a tourists camera.   JONES THE STEAM: Ah so you have found out our little secret. Every so often the dragons come out for the tourists and get their photo taken. The pictures are blurred because they move so fast so there's not actual risk of anyone believing the pictures are real.  Those dragons saved out town.  You're not going to take them away from us are you Mister Harness?       JACK No but it is likely that Owen will try and snog one of them   OWEN I'd resent that remark if I hadn't seen the rest of the story ark.   JONES THE STEAM: Look Mister Harkness one of them wants to ask you a question.   IDRIS THE DRAGON: (as sample) “do you know land of my fathers?   JACK: No it's abide with me or nothing   GWEN: You know that still doesn't solve the real mystery.   JACK: You mean  how Ivor – a steam engine – speak?   IANTO: oh that's easy.  Ivor was made from a living  metal that came through the rift at the end of the tea time war. IANTO: sorry...   JONES THE STEAM: Did i say too much?  I mean he is magic.   GWEN: Ahhh.   JONES THE STEAM: Tell you what…lets all go home for a nice cup of tea.   OWEN: That's hardly a satisfying end to the narrative. Can't we blow something up? or lose a loved one through time.   JONES THE STEAM: if you like   IANTO: will that help with the fan base?   JONES THE STEAM: No not really….  Ill just go and  put the kettle on   IVOR: boo baaaa.   MUSIC. (Ivor the engine theme as base under the narrators final speech)   NARRATOR: And so we must leave this quiet corner of Wales and journey back to podcast land thanks for listening to my pointless ramblings over this last year.   Be seeing you   MUSIC TDP Closing music NOTE: Some of you have never seen Ivor the Engine and this wont have helped so here is a youtube First Episode for you to enjoy!