Podcast appearances and mentions of al kingsley

In this episode of the podcast, we welcome back for the FOURTH time, the wonderful, majestic, Al Kingsley MBE, a prominent figure in the EdTech space. Alongside Al's personal challenges, we discuss his multifaceted roles in education, and the importance of supporting startups in the EdTech ecosystem. The conversation delves into the slow evolution of education systems, the need for change in educational conversations, and the release of Al's new book, which addresses awkward questions in education. The episode emphasises the interconnectedness of education, technology, and personal growth, highlighting the importance of power (not soft!) skills in the age of AI. In this conversation, we look again at the evolving landscape of education, focusing on the challenges of measuring intangible qualities, the need for reformed assessment methods, and the critical role of educators in adapting to change. We emphasise the importance of balancing accountability with nurturing environments for students, the necessity of systemic change, and the value of human aspects in education amidst technological advancements. The dialogue also touches on the need for a curriculum that reflects the skills, knowledge and dispositions required for future success, moving beyond traditional grading systems.Chapters00:00 Introductions01:41 Al Kingsley's Multifaceted Role in EdTech04:01 Personal Challenges and Professional Insights06:27 The Importance of Supporting Startups in EdTech08:52 The Slow Evolution of Education Systems11:20 Global Perspectives on Education and Technology15:27 Exploring Al's New Book: The Awkward Questions in Education20:00 The Need for Change in Educational Conversations27:21 The Challenge of Measuring Intangibles in Education30:52 Rethinking Assessment Methods32:22 The Role of Educators in a Changing Landscape35:59 Navigating the Fear of Change in Education39:47 The Importance of Systemic Change43:40 Balancing Accountability and Nurturing in Schools48:41 Redefining Success Beyond GradesGrab a copy of The Awkward Questions in Education: The Elephants in the Room from AI to Teacher RetentionThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.Ben & Steve xChampioning those who are making the future of education a reality.Follow us on XFollow us on LinkedInCheck out all about EdufuturistsWant to sponsor future episodes or get involved with the Edufuturists work?Get in touchGet your tickets for Edufuturists Uprising 2025

Al Kingsley, a renowned figure in the world of EdTech with over 30 years of experience! Al wears many hats, from being the CEO of NetSupport to serving as the Chair of Multi-Academy Trusts and contributing to numerous educational initiatives. He's an advocate for digital strategy in education, IT asset management, and improving governance in schools.

Jennifer Redmond - Producer, Digital and Learning at BBC PhilharmonicJennifer Redmond has worked in the broadcasting industry for over 20 years, across many different BBC brands and content areas including BBC Radios 3 and 4, Blue Peter, Entertainment and Factual, specialising in interactive content and audio production. Jen is currently a Producer for the BBC Philharmonic, responsible for Digital and Learning, which involves devising school, family and community concerts and workshops, and producing digital content for BBC platforms. Jen was part of the team that produced Musical Storyland for CBeebies and BBC Teach, featuring the musicians of the BBC Philharmonic. The series follows the success of the BBC Philharmonic's film, The Musical Story of the Gingerbread Man and is the first time an orchestra has been commissioned to make a series of films for network television. Jen studied clarinet at the Royal Northern College of Music.Musical StorylandJoin BBC Teach on a journey through Musical Storyland, where children's fairy tales and traditional folktales are re-imagined with music performed by the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra. The stories are narrated by a host of stars; BBC Radio 5 Live presenter, Nihal Arthanayake; international storyteller, Jan Blake; and CBBC and Eastenders actor, Molly Rainford.There are currently five short films: Three Billy Goats Gruff; Jack and the Beanstalk; Ananse and the Monkeys; the Great Race; and The Little Fir Tree. A further five will be available on Monday 25 March. The films feature an array of guest musicians, including multi-instrumentalist, Sidiki Dembélé; Guzheng player, Zi Lan Liao; and DeaF trumpeter, Sean Chandler. On the BBC Teach website, the classroom videos are accompanied by comprehensive activities and listening guides, exploring musical skills and cross-curricula connections for non-specialist early years and primary-level teachers.Websitewww.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/articles/zqg2s82Social Media Information@BBC_TeachResources MentionedThe Musical Storyland films can be found at www.bbc.co.uk/teach or on the CBeebies BBC iPlayer page https://bit.ly/49wItGLShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Dr. Bill Coplin is an award-winning professor and founder of the undergraduate Policy Studies major at the top ranked Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University. As a social innovator, Coplin is committed to transforming high school and college education into a well-rounded experience that promotes professional skill development for real-world application.Throughout his tenure, Coplin has dedicated his 65-year career to education reform across academia and for the public through teaching, advising and consulting. He is the J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor for Teaching Excellence at the Maxwell School and College of Arts and Sciences at Syracuse University. He advises nearly a million undergraduates and alumni and brings his experience as a consultant for local government agencies to his mentees. In addition, Coplin has received grants from the Sloan Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation, and the National Science Foundation in support of his research and educational programs.Coplin started his career as a full-time professor at Wayne State University in 1964, and quickly became Associate Professor three years later to then be tenured the following year in 1968. Prior to becoming a full time-professor at Syracuse University at 36-years-old, Coplin focused on academic research and publications. He has since released 110 books and articles across varying fields from education to geo-political international relations to corporate citizenship such as ‘doing good.' He has written articles on education in USA Today, the Albany Times Union and for Knight-Ridder publications, as well as educational websites for Newsweek magazine and the Wall Street Journal.Websitewww.billcoplin.comSocial Media Informationx.com/thehappyprofwww.linkedin.com/in/billcoplinResources MentionedDetails about Dr. Bill Coplin's bookShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

In Freedom Teaching, educator and distinguished anti-racism practitioner Matthew Kincaid delivers a one-stop resource for educators and educational leaders seeking to improve equity and increase the cultural responsiveness of their school. In this book, you'll discover the meaning and fundamentals of anti-racist education and find a roadmap to reducing the impact of systemic racism in your classroom.A recognized leader in anti-racism advocacy, Matthew Kincaid's impactful work has earned him accolades, including a 2018 Louisiana SBA Young Entrepreneur of the Year Entrepreneur of the Year, been named a Gambit 40 Under 40, and been honored as a visionary leader by Real Leaders Magazine. His work has been featured in the Washington Post, Forbes, Mashable, Medium, Huffington Post, Now This, and Black Enterprise, among others. Kincaid is an essential voice in revolutionizing American education, and his vision for a more inclusive education system is a beacon of hope, inspiring educators, and advocates nationwide.Websitewww.overcomeracism.comwww.overcomeracism.com/freedomteachingShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

In this HRchat episode we look at the evolving dynamics of workplace culture, the importance of empowering employees, and why more autonomy and trust from leaders can lead to higher levels of employee performance. Our guest this time is Al Kingsley, a well-known EdTech expert and business leader. Al has a big social following, has written 3 books around Ed Tech and Governance, leads the NetSupport Group, and is a MAT Chair.  He will also be a speaker at the Milton Keynes AI Summit in October. Questions for Al include:What are the main characteristics/qualities of an effective leader?Let's discuss your passion for raising awareness of alternative provision options. You are connected with Alex Hughes, Chair of Inspire 2 Ignite. How did you meet and what is it about Inspire 2 Ignite you like? NetSupport's solutions have secured over 300 industry awards and include IT Asset Management, Remote Control, Classroom Management & Orchestration, Notification, eSafety, Service desk and assessment software. Tell us more.You're Chair of the Business Board at the Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority, a supporter of the Peterborough AI Summit. Tell us about the Combined Authority.Feature Your Brand on the HRchat PodcastThe HRchat show has had 100,000s of downloads and is frequently listed as one of the most popular global podcasts for HR pros, Talent execs and leaders. It is ranked in the top ten in the world based on traffic, social media followers, domain authority & freshness. The podcast is also ranked as the Best Canadian HR Podcast by FeedSpot and one of the top 10% most popular shows by Listen Score. Want to share the story of how your business is helping to shape the world of work? We offer sponsored episodes, audio adverts, email campaigns, and a host of other options. Check out packages here. Follow us on LinkedIn Subscribe to our newsletter Check out our in-person events

Curt is the Director of the educational consulting practice at Resultant, a modern consulting firm focused on data analytics, tech, and digital transformation. With a background as a youth worker, educator, and key contributor to several education organizations, Curt leads his team in delivering solutions for K-12 and post-secondary educational institutions.'Education holds tremendous influence and touches nearly every life, throughout childhood and well into adulthood. The dizzying complexity that challenges schools, teachers, and systems deserves a partner that has not just data and technology expertise but experience within schools—the former teachers, researchers, and administrators who've always had a passion for education.'Websitewww.resultant.comSocial Media Informationwww.linkedin.com/in/curtmerlau/Resources MentionedChop Wood Carry Water - Joshua MedcalfShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtube Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Dr. Hemphill's research focuses on teaching personal and social responsibility through sport, physical activity, and physical education with specific applications to urban communities and professional development programs for physical activity providers. His research is grounded in community-engaged scholarship, which features reciprocal community partnerships and interdisciplinary collaborations to address community-identified needs. This research has been situated in local contexts in Charleston, SC and Greensboro, NC as well as international applications in New Zealand and Sri Lanka. He has published several research articles in refereed journals including the Journal of Youth Development, Journal of Teaching in Physical Education, European Physical Education Review, Physical Education & Sport Pedagogy, and Sport, Education, and Society. Additionally, he has delivered research presentations to international, national, and regional conferences including the American Educational Research Association, SHAPE America, the International Association for Physical Education in Higher Education, and the International Association for Research on Service Learning and Community Engagement. He is a recipient of the community-engaged scholar award from the School of Health and Human Sciences and of the Charles D. Henry Award, honoring significant contributions to ethnic minorities in SHAPE America.Websitewww.kin.uncg.eduResources MentionedLittle Book of Restorative Justice Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtubeWant help to start a podcast? www.educationonfire.com/lsprMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Spencer Russell is the Founder of Toddlers Can Read, a groundbreaking program that helps thousands of parents across the world teach their children to read. His fierce conviction that every child deserves the best start in life inspired him to walk away from a comfortable 100K salary job after teaching his son to read at just two years old.With a background as a former award-winning kindergarten and first-grade teacher, Spencer has received widespread recognition as one of the most outstanding educators in his city, state, and national charter network. He has become a trailblazer in literacy innovation with his unique approach to education, leading him to amass over 2 million followers on social media.Spencer's incredible work has even earned him a feature in the TikTok Sparks Good docuseries, which highlights small businesses that have found success on the platform. He has also been featured on FOX, Parents.com, FamilyEducation and Popsugar Parenting. Through his unwavering dedication to providing children with the best start in life, Spencer is changing the face of education and empowering parents to help their toddlers achieve incredible feats of literacy.Websitewww.toddlersread.comSocial Media Information@toddlerscanreadResources MentionedPhonics from A-Z Wiley BlevinsShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) www.nape.org.ukSupport the show at www.educationonfire.com/supportHave you seen our live shows on YouTube? www.EducationOnFire.com/youtubeWant help to start a podcast? www.educationonfire.com/lsprMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/London School of Public Relations - Podcasting Course with Mark TaylorThe 1-day Essentials of Podcasting Certificated short course is highly practical and packed full of useful information to get you on the road to producing your own professional podcasts. The Podcasting course will help you to create, edit, deliver and promote your podcast. The course also provides useful tips and tricks from industry experts on producing professional and effective results.LSPR

LIS is building a new university based on interdisciplinarity and tackling complex real-world problems. Instead of specialising in a single subject area, our students learn through a problem-based interdisciplinary approach, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts and Sciences (BASc). Solutions to the world's most complex and interconnected problems won't come from a single specialism or subject. We need to bring together experts and knowledge from across the arts, sciences and humanities.In a world faced by increasingly complex challenges, it's never been more important to find new ways of learning. We need young people who are more versatile, more entrepreneurial, and more resilient than ever before. But the current education system is siloed, and students are forced down a singular academic path, pushing them to specialise in one subject area. At LIS, we think there's a straightforward case for an interdisciplinary curriculum: problems are interdisciplinary, so our curriculum should be too. The London Interdisciplinary School place a premium on teaching rather than research. They have brought together a diverse and outstanding group of academics, entrepreneurs, and educationalists. The LIS team includes philosophers, epidemiologists, artists, journalists, behavioural scientists, and mathematicians, as well as entrepreneurs and professionals.Websitewww.lis.ac.ukSocial Media InformationInstagram: @weare_lisTwitter/X: @weareLISTikTok: @we_are_lisResources MentionedDavid Goggins Chris WilliamsonAndrew HubermanShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/For support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Joshua Fullard is an Assistant Professor at the Warwick Business School, University of Warwick, and a Research Associate at the Research Centre on Micro-Social Change, University of Essex.His research can broadly fit into three categories: teachers and teacher labour markets, education inequalities and research methods. His work is regularly cited in the media, government reports and in parliamentary debates.Dr Fullard received his PhD from the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex and has previously held positions in the Department of Economics at the University of Essex, the Education Policy InstituteInstitute, and the Leibniz Institute for Economic Research at the University of Munich.ifo Institute in Munich.Websitehttps://sites.google.com/view/joshuafullard/homeSocial Media Information@WarwickBSchool@uniofwarwickResources MentionedAudio booksShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/For support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Shahar Link, the CEO and founder of Mindspire Tutoring and Test Prep, has been at the forefront of the test preparation and academic excellence arena for over a decade. With a career spanning 25 years, Shahar has honed his expertise in high school teaching and tutoring standardized tests, including the SAT and ACT. Holding a Master's degree in History from Stanford University, where he delved into the history of IQ testing, Shahar founded Mindspire driven by the deep reward in empowering students to exceed their own expectations and achieve remarkable success in even the most formidable academic and mental endeavors.Shahar's exceptional contributions have not gone unnoticed. He has been featured as a quoted expert in the renowned US News & World Report and has been invited as a keynote speaker at numerous educational institutions, captivating audiences with his innovative approaches to learning. Through Mindspire Tutoring and Test Prep, Shahar has transformed the lives of countless students, providing them with invaluable strategies and guidance to conquer academic challenges and unleash their true potential.Websitewww.mindspire.comSocial Media Informationwww.facebook.com/mindspireprepResources MentionedSiddhartha - Hermann HesseMan's Search for Meaning - Viktor FranklShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/For support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Tracy Pleschourt is a certified professional and personal coach as well as an entrepreneur. She is also the founder of Self-Made U, a life coaching school that teaches men and women how to become the solution to any problem they face.Alongside her daughter Gracie, who is 22, she also hosts the Tracy & Gracie Becoming Podcast, a show that gives life coaching advice from two different generational perspectives.Tracy is a student of her own work and has stopped overeating, overdrinking, and has created a multi-six-figure business while teaching others to do the same. She dedicates her work to ambitious, life-long learners yearning for solutions and seeking a better way to create the results they desire and deserve.Websitewww.self-madeu.comSocial Media Informationwww.instagram.com/self_madeu/ www.facebook.com/SelfmadeU/ www.tiktok.com/@self_madeuwww.linkedin.com/company/self-madeu/Resources MentionedThe Four Agreements - Don Miguel RuizShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/For support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Education, support and guidance to help parents, grandparents and relatives raise financially responsible children, teenagers and young adults.Kevin Whelan is an economist, author, the Founder of WealthBuilders and one of the UK's leading experts and authorities on SSAS Pensions (Small Self Administered Scheme).Kevin and WealthBuilders are on a mission to help parents leave a financial legacy for their children and be great money role models.WealthBuilders for Families provides education, support and connections to help bring financial conversations into the home and give children that much-needed financial confidence to hit the ground running when they start their careers.Websitewww.wealthbuilders.co.uk/familieshttps://www.wealthbuilders.co.uk/educationonfire -Special Freebies For 'Education On Fire' Podcast ListenersSocial Media InformationKevin Whelan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinjwhelanKevin Whelan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinjwhelanWealthBuilders Free Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/WealthTogetherWealthBuilders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wealthbuilders-togetherWealthBuilders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wealthbuilderstogetherResources MentionedThe CASHFLOW Quadrant - Robert T. KiyosakiSeven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen R. CoveyShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/For support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Nathaniel Provencio has worked in the public education field since 2001 as a classroom teacher, building administrator and associate superintendent . In 2010, he became the principal of Minnieville Elementary in Prince William County, Virginia. Under his leadership, Minnieville Elementary was recognized as a Virginia Distinguished Title 1 School, became a National Model Professional Learning Community and was the winner of the 2019 Richard DuFour PLC Award.Mr. Provencio has been honored as the 2017 Prince William County principal of the year, the 2017 Washington Post Principal of the Year and the 2019 Virginia National Distinguished Principal of the Year.Mr. Provencio is the author of Community Connections and Your PLC at Work, which focuses on how schools can utilize the professional learning community framework to enhance family and community engagement.Mr. Provencio graduated from the University of North Alabama in 2001 with a degree in education and has a master's degree in education administration from George Mason University in which he was recognized as one of 50 all-time George Mason University Alumni.Websitewww.provenprincipalllc.comSocial Media Information@provenprincipalResources MentionedUnder Presssure - Queen/David BowieShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)https://nape.org.uk/https://www.educationonfire.com/blog/ - Video with Al KingsleyFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/

Take 5 Quick Minutes with Jarrod Morgan and Al Kingsley as they discuss Al's growth story and how A.I. if affecting the education sector! Our show provides practical and real advice for entrepreneurs and people working in startups or tech companies. Jarrod spent more than a decade building a business from the ground up while pioneering an entirely new industry. The lessons he learned, people he met, and actions he took proved invaluable and now we want to share these stories with an audience. Starting a business can be a little bit like running a barbecue restaurant. Customers come in, order food, and appreciate the simplicity of it all. The customer's transaction was quick and easy, but the preparation for that moment was immense. We understand that anything worth having takes a ton of time and work. We love working hard, watching the tech industry, and eating great food, and our show is a platform for these interests to collide.

On this week's Slow Smoked Business, Jarrod is joined by Al Kingsley, the nicest guy in education technology, to discuss how AI is changing the educational landscape, and they compare stories from their respective ed-tech worlds. Our show provides practical and real advice for entrepreneurs and people working in startups or tech companies. Jarrod spent more than a decade building a business from the ground up while pioneering an entirely new industry. The lessons he learned, people he met, and actions he took proved invaluable and now we want to share these stories with an audience. Starting a business can be a little bit like running a barbecue restaurant. Customers come in, order food, and appreciate the simplicity of it all. The customer's transaction was quick and easy, but the preparation for that moment was immense. We understand that anything worth having takes a ton of time and work. We love working hard, watching the tech industry, and eating great food, and our show is a platform for these interests to collide.

A former corporate girl, Grace quit her VP life to pursue her dream job as a public school teacher. After 20 years in the classroom, she now focuses full-time on helping educators have a more positive teaching experience.Grace combines her signature mantra, “Your energy teaches more than your lesson plans,” with two decades of study in behavioral therapy, positive psychology, and NLP to create science-based habits for overwhelmed educators. She is the author of the best-selling Positive Mindset Habits for Teachers and the One New Habit book series.Websitewww.gracestevens.comSocial Media InformationTikTok: @gracestevensteacherwww.facebook.com/GraceStevensTeacherResources MentionedStephen Covey -7 Habits of Highly Effective Peoplehttps://www.gracestevens.com/happyShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education on Fire Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Little Troopers is a registered charity supporting service children who have parent(s) serving in our British Armed Forces, regular or reserve. These children often face unique challenges including frequent house and school moves, as well as regular periods of separation from their serving parent(s) for varying lengths of time due to exercises, training, operations and other service commitments.As a charity, Little Troopers ensures our British Armed Forces children and their families have access to child-focused support wherever they are in the world and whatever community they live in. They provide fundamental resources and initiatives to help ease repeated separation periods and keep parent and child connected even when miles apart. They are the only charity in the UK dedicated to celebrating just how special all our Little Troopers out there really are.Louise Fetigan, founder, is a British Army veteran who saw active service in Kosovo. Her husband was also a serving soldier for 24 years, and undertook seven operational tours of duty. Together they have a daughter who spent her whole childhood as a military child and is the inspiration behind the charity, Little Troopers.Websitewww.littletroopers.netSocial Media InformationFacebook @littletroopersathomeInstagram @littletroopers_ and @louiselittletroopersTwitter @littletroopers_Resources Mentionedwww.littletroopers.net/teen-podcast/Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Watch the Education Live Show every Tuesday www.educationonfire.com/youtubeMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Michael Strong is the most experienced developer of innovative educational programs in the US and the Founder of The Socratic Experience, an online school based on Socratic dialogue that emphasizes personalized and purpose-driven education for students in grades 3-12.His remarkable career in education spans over three decades, and includes creating many high-performance school programs that promote critical thinking, creativity, and entrepreneurship in students across the country.Some of Michael's notable projects include a public school program in which minority female students gained four years' worth of critical thinking gains in four months (on the Watson-Glaser) and Moreno Valley High School, a Paideia charter high school, which was ranked the 36th-best US public high school by Newsweek.He also created The Winston Academy, where middle school students passed Advanced Placement (AP) exams, making it the most academically advanced school in the US at the time. Thousands of his students have been admitted to top universities, including Harvard, Stanford, Georgetown, and many other post-secondary institutions.Michael's impact on education extends beyond the classroom, as he is also the author of The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice and Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World's Problems, which includes a foreword by John Mackey, the Co-Founder and former CEO of Whole Foods Market, with whom he has collaborated on initiatives related to conscious capitalism and entrepreneurship.He has spoken at Harvard, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, the University of Chicago, and dozens of other universities, and his work has been featured in academic journals. Websitewww.socraticexperience.comSocial Media Informationwww.facebook.com/socraticexperiencewww.instagram.com/thesocraticexperience/?hl=enwww.youtube.com/channel/UCvu2SVvM4aj-nzAiuuq5iHA/featuredtwitter.com/socraticexpwww.linkedin.com/school/socraticexperience/Resources MentionedTeaching with your mouth shut - Donald L. FinkelShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Keith Nelson's academic foundations include a B.A. from Harvard, Ph.D from Yale, and stimulating experiences as a collaborative faculty member at Stanford, Graduate Faculty of New School for Social research, and the Developmental Psychology mecca called Penn State University. His teaching includes courses on Fostering Creative Breakthroughs.Basic theory-based research has been translated widely into new procedures for helping to accelerate developmental progress in children with autism, language delay, dyslexia, and deafness. Publications have included 12 volumes in the book series, Children's Language, as well as over 100 journal articles and book chapters. Very few peers have attempted and achieved impressive causal experimental results across fields as diverse as Art Education, Language Delay, Poverty, Dyslexia, Deafness, Autism Spectrum Disorders, Basic Language Acquisition, Creativity, Preschool Education, Communication Disorders, Environmental Stewardship, and Adult Learning. In addition to publications Keith regularly gives papers and workshops at conferences all around the world. For example, presentations have included Vienna, Vancouver, Austin, Madrid, Stockholm, Istanbul, Madeira, and Tokyo.Here's a bit more about his book, BREAKTHROUGHS... Everyone gets STUCK sometimes. Perhaps you have recently been Stuck in some important way--not making progress with a child, a business project, a creative endeavor, a community project?Stuck Now? BREAKTHROUGHS is here to inspire and help. In short, fun chapters you will explore a remarkable variety of ways that others have been really STUCK--and then found a way to Break Through, to Leap Forward. Your thinking and planning and real-life exploring will open up and feed in strongly to your own Breakthrough Successes.Breakthroughs : Realizing Our Potentials Through Dynamic Tricky Mixes - Keith NelsonShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Jeanine Mouchawar is a life coach for parents of teenagers. She helps make parenting easier by teaching new communication strategies that stop the battles and create a calm, peaceful home. Parents learn how to teach their teens cooperation, responsibility, and critical life skills to empower them for success. In the process, they create the positive, meaningful relationship they always imagined.Jeanine earned her B.A. from Stanford University and is a certified professional life coach. She is married and has 3 adult children.Websitewww.jeaninemouchawar.comSocial Media Informationwww.instagram.com/jeaninemouchawarcoaching/www.facebook.com/jeaninemouchawarcoachingwww.tiktok.com/@jeaninemouchawarcoachingResources Mentionedhttps://eckharttolle.com/Resources from JeanineHow to Talk So Your Teen ListensNo More Battles with Your TeenShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Ben Case from Tapestry, an online learning journal used in thousands of primary schools and early years settings, has been working with teaching staff at Arundel C of E Primary School for the past two years to support the work they've been doing to encourage pupils to reflect on, and talk about, their own learning. This has involved using Tapestry's child login feature which enables children to add their own comments and videos describing their learning. The school has found that children are:*Becoming better at explaining their learning*Using more complex language*Engaging more fully as active learnersYou can read the Arundel CoE Primary School Case Studies hereAndrew Simpson, Headteacher, Arundel CoE Primary School also joins us to share his experience of using this feature from Tapestry and how it works within the school. Websitewww.tapestry.infoSocial Media InformationTwitter - https://twitter.com/Tapestry_FSFFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/TapestryLearningJournalShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitFor support with podcasting & video please visit www.educationonfire.com/media Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Join me for a special episode of our Saturday morning show with guest Al Kingsley, a renowned author and expert in education technology. While Al has been involved in AI and authoring, today's conversation will primarily focus on school strategic planning. We will discuss the challenges of growth, vital current risks, and the evolving ways we measure impact. Please tune in for an enlightening discussion that will provide valuable insights and guidance for the development and growth of our schools in these challenging times. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/myedtechlife/support

Canaries Among Us is a raw and honest exploration of the everyday lives of children challenged by learning differences, anxiety, and bullying. Author Kayla Taylor blends science and poignant storytelling to create this necessary, timely, and stigma-tackling resource for anyone interested in child well-being.A lifeline to those who learn and think differently, Canaries Among Us explores one of the most widespread threats to children: a lack of acceptance. This heart-rending exposé offers both a candid view into the ways unique children are mistreated and a searing indictment of society's tendency to revictimize people in their times of greatest need. Throughout, Canaries Among Us points to an alternative: supporting, and even celebrating, the dazzling variety of our humanity. The author is donating her profits from the first edition of Canaries Among Us to organizations promoting mental health, neurodiversity, and bullying prevention.Websitewww.kaylataylorwrites.comSocial Media Informationwww.instagram.com/kaylataylorwrites/Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Cam F Awesome is a Keynote Speaker, Diversity Consultant, Event Emcee, and a multi-time National Champion Heavyweight Olympic boxer. As a motivational speaker, Cam shares lessons he's learned traveling to 30+ countries as Captain of Team USA. Cam's Olympic journey was featured in the NETFLIX Original Documentary, COUNTERPUNCH!Growing up, Cam dealt with academic and social challenges. Bullying and anxiety led him to join a boxing gym to protect himself. Cam had tried out but was unable to make any teams he tried out for. Boxing was the only available choice since no team had to be made.Cam quickly fell in love with the sport. He realized his potential to be great and dedicated every waking moment to be the best boxer possible. Cam's mental toughness served as his superpower in the ring. Within 2 years in the sport in 2008, Cam won the National Championship claiming the title as the #1 Super Heavyweight boxer in the country.Cam holds 4 Golden Gloves Championships, 6 US Championships, 3 PAL National Championships, 6 Ringside Championships, and 3 Olympic Trials. Cam holds the title as the Winningest Boxer in USA Boxing history. Cam's accomplishments are impressive but pale in comparison to the losses he has accumulated to reach this point. During his motivational speeches he shares how he faced adversities in and outside of the ring with a Championship Mindset. Boxing is the greatest metaphor because everyone is fighting their own battles.Websitewww.camfawesome.comSocial Media Information@camfawesomeResources MentionedThink and Grow Rich - Napoleon HillShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Voice 21 is the UK's oracy education charity. They work with schools to transform the learning and life chances of young people through talk. They campaign for oracy to have a higher status in the education system.Oracy skills are vital to success in school and in life. And yet, for many children, especially those growing up in poverty, opportunities to develop these vital skills are missed. Only a minority of schools have consistent, coherent or adequately resourced provision to develop these skills in their students.Voice 21's sustained approach weaves oracy into a school's DNA, ensuring current and future students have access to a high-quality oracy education. This means that students in Voice 21 Oracy Schools, including those who would otherwise miss out, develop the oracy skills they need for success in school and in life. Amy Gaunt is Director of Learning and Impact at Voice 21. Amy joined the charity's founding leadership team in 2016 and has supported its growth from one London school to a network of nearly 1000 schools across the UK. She has developed Voice 21's approach to oracy education, teacher development and school improvement and has led the development of their impact function. She is co-author of Transform Teaching and Learning through Talk: the Oracy Imperative and Voice 21's Oracy Benchmarks. Before joining Voice 21, Amy was a primary teacher, both in London and internationally.Websitewww.voice21.orgSocial Media Information@voice21oracy (Twitter)@amy_gaunt (Twitter)Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Ryan Steuer sees Project Based Learning as a way to change the world and is the founder of Magnify Learning, a PBL professional development organization that equips teachers, instructional coaches, and principals across the country to engage learners, tackle boredom, and transform classrooms. Prior to founding Magnify Learning, Ryan was an engineer for a Fortune 50 company, 8th grade English teacher, and missionary. He shares his education and leadership insights on YouTube and on the PBL Simplified podcast.Websitewww.magnifylearningin.orgSocial Media InformationTwitter @ryansteuerIG @magnifylearningResources Mentioned The Slight Edge - Jeff OlsonShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitTEFOS 2023Every year since 2018, tens of thousands of compassionate and proactive Parents and Educators from around the globe come together for TEFOS, The Executive Function Online Summit. It's a unique, Free 3-day learning event, where leading experts teach you how to support Struggling Students with Executive Function challenges.www.educationonfire.com/tefos (Affiliate Link)The Education on Fire YouTube ChannelMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Neil Moggan is a former Director of Sport, Health and RSHE at a secondary school where children's life expectancy ranged by 13 years depending on what side of the main road outside the school they were born on. This led to Neil being so passionate about transforming young people's life chances.Neil has been recognised for his work in reducing obesity, early intervention mental wellbeing programmes, financial literacy and trauma informed practice.Since lockdown Neil has helped over 100 schools across the world implement his ‘RISE Up' early intervention mental well-being programme through his company Future Action.Neil is a trauma informed practitioner and has created & road tested the ‘Recover' roadmap to guide PE departments how to implement trauma informed practice to transform relationships, engagement, attendance, behaviour & learning in the short term and improve their life chances in the long term.Neil is currently writing a book, being published in October 2023 by Scholarly, on the decline of children's mental health since 2010 and how schools can contribute to a solution. Neil is also a consultant for a number of schools, NGOs and companies.Websitewww.futureaction.co.ukSocial Media InformationBook a call: calendly.com/info-33513Web: www.futureaction.co.ukFacebook: Future ActionTwitter: @neilfutureactLinkedin: Neil MogganResources MentionedTaster Resources & Case Studies: https://www.futureaction.net/programs-1School Wellbeing Scorecard: https://neil-hk02z4js.scoreapp.com/p/fitness-landing-pageShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitTEFOS 2023Every year since 2018, tens of thousands of compassionate and proactive Parents and Educators from around the globe come together for TEFOS, The Executive Function Online Summit. It's a unique, Free 3-day learning event, where leading experts teach you how to support Struggling Students with Executive Function challenges.www.educationonfire.com/tefos (Affiliate Link)The Education on Fire YouTube Channel Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Lynn McLaughlin has served in many roles as an educator … Superintendent, Principal, Vice-Principal, Teacher, and Educational Consultant. In addition to her business, Lynn now teaches future Educational Assistants at her local College.As a best-selling and award-winning author, Lynn has now teamed up with her niece, Amber Raymond, to co-author a children's book series titled, “The Power of Thought”. Both are passionate about being proactive when it comes to children's mental health. When children learn to manage their emotions at a young age, they learn to problem-solve and find positive solutions to everyday situations.Lynn has hosted the podcast, Taking the Helm for over three years and introduces us to a new, courageous guest on Wednesdays. Every episode is archived and searchable on her website by keyword or topic. One of her guests might be the change agent you need in your own life!Lynn's professional speaking experiences have been local, provincial, and international. She is passionate about children's emotional well-being and what we as adults must do to ensure our children have the skills, mindset, and strategies to be successful and happy in today's world.Dedicated to community causes, Lynn is a member of 100 Women Who Care Windsor/Essex and is a Rotarian. As a brain tumour survivor, she works tirelessly to support the goals of the Brain Tumour Foundation of Canada.Websitewww.lynnmclaughlin.comSocial Media Informationwww.facebook.com/lynnmclaughlin.co/www.youtube.com/channel/UCkyeari6SNO4ZKQ5Un-_f4w?view_as=subscriberwww.instagram.com/lynnmcla/www.linkedin.com/in/lynn-mclaughlin-med-bed-ba-2a8b5384/twitter.com/lynnmclaShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitTEFOS 2023Every year since 2018, tens of thousands of compassionate and proactive Parents and Educators from around the globe come together for TEFOS, The Executive Function Online Summit. It's a unique, Free 3-day learning event, where leading experts teach you how to support Struggling Students with Executive Function challenges.www.educationonfire.com/tefos (Affiliate Link)Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Chantal was a teacher for the past 17 years. Starting off in Primary education in the beginning of her career, then moving on to teaching maths and science. She has taught in South Africa, America and the UK. She was then Head of Science for a few years before becoming the Head of the Upper School at an independent boy's prep school. Chantal heads up the ECT side of Eteach; looking at how we can attract graduates and then how we can work on supporting them throughout their 2-year induction period and ultimately supporting and guiding ECTs to retain them in the education sector.Websitewww.eteach.com/ect-homeSocial Media Informationwww.facebook.com/groups/eteachectResources MentionedThe Power of Now - Eckhart TolleShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitTEFOS 2023Every year since 2018, tens of thousands of compassionate and proactive Parents and Educators from around the globe come together for TEFOS, The Executive Function Online Summit. It's a unique, Free 3-day learning event, where leading experts teach you how to support Struggling Students with Executive Function challenges.www.educationonfire.com/tefos (Affiliate Link)Mentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Lila Wohlwend is a best-selling author, business owner, investor, and homeschooling mom who helps other families learn how to have more financial freedom, time freedom, and location freedom.When she is not working with real estate, she helps homeschools her two children. She has written a curriculum to teach business and money principles to both home school & traditional students. She is a #1 Best-selling author of “Family Success Triangle.” Websitehttps://www.clearskytrainer.comSocial Media Information@RealPowerFamilyResources MentionedAtlas ShruggedShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Al Kingsley has spent the last 30 years in the Educational Technology space and almost 20 of those as a school trustee and governor. He is Group CEO of NetSupport Ltd, an internationally acclaimed EdTech vendor, and Chair of Hampton Academies Trust and the Richard Barnes (AP) Academy, all in the East of England. He also chairs his region's Governor Leadership Group. Alongside these roles, Al also sits on the DfE's Regional Schools Directorate Advisory Board for the East of England and is the Independent Chair of the County's SEND Board. As a firm supporter of lifelong learning, he is also a regional Apprenticeship Ambassador and Chair of the Employment and Skills Board for his region' s combined authority. An active writer about all things Education, Al is a member of the Forbes Technology Council and sits on the advisory council for the Foundation for Education Development.Websitewww.alkingsley.comSocial Media Informationtwitter.com/AlKingsley_EduResources MentionedWatch the LIVE podcast with Eric and his team at www.youtube.com/live/z5Mbcxr9mBA?feature=shareShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

For this week's episode we were joined by many guests to discuss all things community. The guests include friends and supporters of the Edufuturists who have vast experience and knowledge in developing and championing communities globally in different guises. We were joined by Al Kingsley, Louise Jones, Ian Phillips, Lawrence Tijjani, Abid Patel and Georgina Dean. The episode explores themes from the power and importance of communities to how to ensure we create spaces which are diverse and allow people to be their authentic, best selves. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/edufuturistspodcast/message

Eric Franzen is the co-founder and owner of Ideal School. They are an internationally-accredited dual language online school. They are accredited in 86 countries by Cognia (formerly AdvancEd) and serve students and families from North America to South America and the Caribbean. Ideal School are connecting students in real-time with real, experienced, caring, and bilingual teachers from around the globe, revolutionising education one family at a time. They provide an interactive, engaging, and rigorous educational experience at an affordable price. If you are an interested family who are looking for an alternative to traditional education, or video-based online schools do take a look.Websitewww.idealschool.educationSocial Media Informationwww.instagram.com/idealschool_eduwww.facebook.com/idealschool.eduwww.tiktok.com/@idealschool_eduwww.youtube.com/@idealschool-wausa7896Resources MentionedWatch the LIVE podcast with Eric and his team at www.youtube.com/live/z5Mbcxr9mBA?feature=shareShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley – ‘Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023Get access to all 20 videos from the the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Nadim Saad is a parenting coach and best-selling author, who founded The Happy Confident Company to help children thrive, by offering them the insights and tools they need to face life's challenges and become the best version of themselves.Nadim works with renowned therapists, teachers and children, drawing from the latest research in child psychology and neuroscience to develop programmes that have already changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of children, families and increasingly teachers.The Happy Confident Schools Programme has been running for three years with amazing results for teaching staff and pupils.Developed with schools, teachers and experts, and based on the latest research in the field of social emotional learning, the programme requires no changes to the curriculum as it is based on ten-minute sessions per day. It is clinically proven that 10 minutes of wellbeing and mindfulness per day are transformative, leading to children feeling better, behaving better and consequently reducing the burden and stress on teaching staff.A father of three, Nadim has an MBA from INSEAD and Masters in Management from European Business School and is a regular speaker on parenting themes for FTSE100 companies.Nadim, his books and range of Happy Confident Company products have been featured in leading media publications such as The Sunday Times, The Telegraph, The Guardian, the BBC, Sky News and The Week Junior.Websitewww.happyconfident.comSocial Media InformationInstagram: happyconfidentcompanyfacebook: happyconfidentcomShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Watch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley - 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' from the Primary Education Summit – ‘Visions for the Future' – 2023 Get access to the summit at www.nape.org.uk/summitMentioned in this episode:NAPE Al Kingsley Summit PromoWatch Mark Taylor interview Al Kingsley about 'Creating Digital Strategies for Schools' as part of the Primary Education Summit 2023 - Visions for the Future - presented by National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) https://www.educationonfire.com/creating-digital-strategies-for-schools/NAPE Al Kingsley Summit Promo

Today I share some details about how the podcast will be developing in the coming months.LIVE Podcasts can be found at https://www.youtube.com/@educationonfire5530/streamsBookTastic Children's Book Festival https://www.booktastic.org.uk/Contact me via https://www.educationonfire.com/Thank you to our principal sponsor National Association for Primary Education Take a FREE look at one of their Primary Education Summit videos with Al Kingsley. Creating Digital Strategies for Schools or at www.educationonfire.com/blog/

Al Kingsley has over 30 years' experience in educational technology and digital safeguarding.For the last 25 years Al has been the Group Managing Director of NetSupport, an international software company developing market-leading software solutions used by over 18 million customers, designed to support the effective use of instructional technology in classrooms alongside eSafety technologies to safeguard students online.Al writes for a range of international titles on all aspects of education, with a particular focus on Digital Strategy, the use of EdTech, Blended Learning, Safeguarding and broader strategic planning.He is the author of “My Secret Edtech Diary” and “My School Governance Handbook” and the co-host of the “EdTech Shared” podcast.Recommended Resources:The Innovator's Dillema: The Revolutionary Book That Will Change the Way You Do Business by Clayton M. ChristensenDisrupting Class: How Disruptive Innovation Will Change the Way the World Learns by Clayton M. Christensen

About JackJack is Uptycs' outspoken technology evangelist. Jack is a lifelong information security executive with over 25 years of professional experience. He started his career managing security and operations at the world's first Internet data privacy company. He has since led unified Security and DevOps organizations as Global CSO for large conglomerates. This role involved individually servicing dozens of industry-diverse, mid-market portfolio companies.Jack's breadth of experience has given him a unique insight into leadership and mentorship. Most importantly, it fostered professional creativity, which he believes is direly needed in the security industry. Jack focuses his extra time mentoring, advising, and investing. He is an active leader in the ISLF, a partner in the SVCI, and an outspoken privacy activist. Links Referenced: UptycsSecretMenu.com: https://www.uptycssecretmenu.com Jack's email: jroehrig@uptycs.com TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: If you asked me to rank which cloud provider has the best developer experience, I'd be hard-pressed to choose a platform that isn't Google Cloud. Their developer experience is unparalleled and, in the early stages of building something great, that translates directly into velocity. Try it yourself with the Google for Startups Cloud Program over at cloud.google.com/startup. 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Visit Pinecone.io to understand more.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. This promoted guest episode is brought to us by our friends at Uptycs. And they have sent me their Technology Evangelist, Jack Charles Roehrig. Jack, thanks for joining me.Jack: Absolutely. Happy to spread the good news.Corey: So, I have to start. When you call yourself a technology evangelist, I feel—just based upon my own position in this ecosystem—the need to ask, I guess, the obvious question of, do you actually work there, or have you done what I do with AWS and basically inflicted yourself upon a company. Like, well, “I speak for you now.” The running gag that becomes more true every year is that I'm AWS's chief marketing officer.Jack: So, that is a great question. I take it seriously. When I say technology evangelist, you're speaking to Jack Roehrig. I'm a weird guy. So, I quit my job as CISO. I left a CISO career. For, like, ten years, I was a CISO. Before that, 17 years doing stuff. Started my own thing, secondaries, investments, whatever.Elias Terman, he hits me up and he says, “Hey, do you want this job?” It was an executive job, and I said, “I'm not working for anybody.” And he says, “What about a technology evangelist?” And I was like, “That's weird.” “Check out the software.”So, I'm going to check out the software. I went online, I looked at it. I had been very passionate about the space, and I was like, “How does this company exist in doing this?” So, I called him right back up, and I said, “I think I am.” He said, “You think you are?” I said, “Yeah, I think I'm your evangelist. Like, I think I have to do this.” I mean, it really was like that.Corey: Yeah. It's like, “Well, we have an interview process and the rest.” You're like, “Yeah, I have a goldfish. Now that we're done talking about stuff that doesn't matter, I'll start Monday.” Yeah, I like the approach.Jack: Yeah. It was more like I had found my calling. It was bizarre. I negotiated a contract with him that said, “Look, I can't just work for Uptycs and be your evangelist. That doesn't make any sense.” So, I advise companies, I'm part of the SVCI, I do secondaries, investment, I mentor, I'm a steering committee member of the ISLF. We mentor security leaders.And I said, “I'm going to continue doing all of these things because you don't want an evangelist who's just an Uptycs evangelist.” I have to know the space. I have to have my ear to the ground. And I said, “And here's the other thing, Elias. I will only be your evangelist while I'm your evangelist. I can't be your evangelist when I lose passion. I don't think I'm going to.”Corey: The way I see it, authenticity matters in this space. You can sell out exactly once, so make it count because you're never going to be trusted again to do it a second time. It keeps people honest, at least the ones you actually want to be doing work with. So, you've been in the space a long time, 20 years give or take, and you've seen an awful lot. So, I'm curious, given that I tend to see about, you know, six or seven different companies in the RSA Sponsor Hall every year selling things because you know, sure hundreds of booths, bunch of different marketing logos and products, but it all distills down to the same five or six things.What did you see about Uptycs that made you say, “This is different?” Because to be very direct, looking at the website, it's, “Oh, what do you sell?” “Acronyms. A whole bunch of acronyms that, because I don't eat, sleep, and breathe security for a living, I don't know what most of them mean, but I'm sure they're very impressive and important.” What does it actually do, for those of us who are practitioners, but not swimming in the security vendor stream?Jack: So, I've been obsessed with this space and I've seen the acronyms change over and over and over again. I'm always the first one to say, “What does that mean?” As the senior guy in the room a lot of time. So, acronyms. What does Uptycs do? What drew me into them? They did HIDS, Host Intrusion Detection System. I don't know if you remember that. Turned into—Corey: Oh, yeah. OSSEC was the one I always wound up using, the open-source version. OSSEC [kids 00:04:10]. It's like, oh, instead of paying a vendor, you can contribute it yourself because your time is free, right? Free as in puppy, or these days free as in tier when it comes to cloud.Jack: Oh, I like that. So, yeah, I became obsessed with this HIDS stuff. I think it was evident I was doing it, that it was threat [unintelligible 00:04:27]. And these companies, great companies. I started this new job in an education technology company and I needed a lot of work, so I started to play around with more sophisticated HIDS systems, and I fell in love with it. I absolutely fell in love with it.But there are all these limitations. I couldn't find this company that would build it right. And Uptycs has this reputation as being not very sexy, you know? People telling me, “Uptycs? You're going to Uptycs?” Yeah—I'm like, “Yeah. They're doing really cool stuff.”So, Uptycs has, like, this brand name and I had referred Uptycs before without even knowing what it was. So, here I am, like, one of the biggest XDR, I hope to say, activists in the industry, and I didn't know about Uptycs. I felt humiliated. When I heard about what they were doing, I felt like I wasted my career.Corey: Well, that's a strong statement. Let's begin with XDR. To my understanding, that some form of audio cable standard that I use to plug into my microphone. Some would say it, “X-L-R.” I would say sounds like the same thing. What is XDR?Jack: What is it, right? So, [audio break 00:05:27] implement it, but you install an agent, typically on a system, and that agent collects data on the system: what processes are running, right? Well, maybe it's system calls, maybe it's [unintelligible 00:05:37] as regular system calls. Some of them use the extended Berkeley Packet Filter daemon to get stuff, but one of the problems is that we are obtaining low-level data on an operating system, it's got to be highly specific. So, you collect all this data, who's logging in, which passwords are changing, all the stuff that a hacker would do as you're typing on the computer. You're maybe monitoring vulnerabilities, it's a ton of data that you're monitoring.Well, one of the problems that these companies face is they try to monitor too much. Then some came around and they tried to monitor too little, so they weren't as real-time.Corey: Sounds like a little pig story here.Jack: Yeah [laugh], exactly. Another company came along with a fantastic team, but you know, I think they came in a little late in the game, and it looks like they're folding now. They were wonderful company, but the one of the biggest problems I saw was the agent, the compatibility. You know, it was difficult to deploy. I ran DevOps and security and my DevOps team uninstalled the agent because they thought there was a problem with it, we proved there wasn't and four months later, they hadn't completely reinstall it.So, a CISO who manages the DevOps org couldn't get his own DevOps guy to install this agent. For good reason, right? So, this is kind of where I'm going with all of this XDR stuff. What is XDR? It's an agent on a machine that produces a ton of data.I—it's like omniscience. Yes, I started to turn it in, I would ping developers, I was like, “Why did you just run sudo on that machine?” Right. I mean, I knew everything was going on in the space, I had a good intro to all the assets, they technically run on the on-premise data center and the quote-unquote, “Cloud.” I like to just say the production estate. But it's omniscience. It's insights, you can create rules, it's one of the most powerful security tools that exists.Corey: I think there's a definite gap as far as—let's narrow this down to cloud for just a second before we expand this into the joy that has data centers—where you can instrument a whole bunch of different security services in any cloud provider—I'm going to pick on AWS because they're the 800-pound gorilla in the room, and frankly, they could use taking down a peg or two by and large—and you wind up configuring all the different security services that in some cases seem totally unaware of each other, but that's the AWS product portfolio for you. And you do the math out and realize that it theoretically would cost you—to enable all these things—about three times as much as the actual data breach you're ideally trying to prevent against. So, on some level, it feels like, “Heads, I win; tails, you lose,” style scenario.And the answer that people have started reaching out to third-party vendors to wind up tying all of this together into some form of cohesive narrative that a human being has a hope in hell of understanding. But everything I've tried to this point still feels like it is relatively siloed, focused on the whole fear, uncertainty, and doubt that is so inherent to so much of the security world's marketing. And it's almost like cost control where you can spend almost limitless amount of time, energy, money, et cetera, trying to fix these things, but it doesn't advance your company to the next milestone. It's like buying fire insurance on your building. You can spend all the money on fire insurance. Great, it doesn't get you to the next milestone that propels your company forward. It's all reactive instead of proactive. So, it feels like it is never the exciting, number-one priority for companies until right after it should have been higher in the list than it was.Jack: So, when I worked at Turnitin, we had saturated the market. And we worked in education, technology space globally. Compliance everywhere. So, I just worked on the Australian Data Infrastructure Act of 2020. I'm very familiar with the 27 data privacy regulations that are [laugh] in scope for schools. I'm a FERPA expert, right? I know that there's only one P in HIPAA [laugh].So, all of these compliance regulations drove schools and universities, consortiums, government agencies to say, “You need to be secure.” So, security at Turnitin was the number one—number one—key performance indicator of the company for one-and-a-half years. And these cloud security initiatives didn't just make things more secure. They also allowed me to implement a reasonable control framework to get various compliance certifications. So, I'm directly driving sales by deploying these security tools.And the reason why that worked out so great is, by getting the certifications and by building a sensible control framework layer, I was taking these compliance requirements and translating them into real mitigations of business risk. So, the customers are driving security as they should. I'm implementing sane security controls by acting as the chief security officer, company becomes more secure, I save money by using the correct toolset, and we increased our business by, like, 40% in a year. This is a multibillion-dollar company.Corey: That is definitely a story that resonates, especially with organizations that are—or they should be—compliance-forward and having to care about the nature of what it is that they're doing. But I have a somewhat storied history in working in FinTech and large-scale financial services. One of the nice things about that job, which is sort of a weird thing to say there if you don't want to get ejected from the room, has been, “Yeah well, it's only money,” in the final analysis. Because yeah, no one dies if you wind up screwing that up. People's kids don't get exposed.It's just okay, people have to fill out a bunch of forms and you get sued into oblivion and you're not there anymore because the first role of a CISO is to be ablative and get burned away whenever there's a problem. But it still doesn't feel like it does more for a number of clients than, on some level, checking a box that they feel needs to be checked. Not that it shouldn't be, necessarily, but I have a hard time finding people that get passionately excited about security capabilities. Where are they hiding?Jack: So, one of the biggest problems that you're going to face is there are a lot of security people that have moved up in the ranks through technology and not through compliance and technology. These people will implement control frameworks based on audit requirements that are not bespoke to their company. They're doing it wrong. So, we're not ticking boxes; I'm creating boxes that need to be ticked to secure the infrastructure. And at Turnitin, Turnitin was a company that people were forced to use to submit their works in the school.So, imagine that you have to submit a sensitive essay, right? And that sensitive essay goes to this large database. We have the Taiwanese government submitting confidential data there. I had the chief scientist at NASA submitting in pre-publication data there. We've got corporate trade secrets that are popped in there. We have all kinds of FDA pre-approval stuff. This is a plagiarism detection software being used by large companies, governments, and 12-year-old girls, right, who don't want their data leaked.So, if you look at it, like, this is an ethical thing that is required for us to do, our customers drive that, but truly, I think it's ethics that drive it. So, when we implemented a control framework, I didn't do the minimum, I didn't run an [unintelligible 00:12:15] scan that nobody ran. I looked for tools that satisfied many boxes. And one of the things about the telemetry at scale, [unintelligible 00:12:22], XDR, whatever want to call it, right? But the agent-based systems that monitor for all of us this run-state data, is they can take a lot of your technical SOC controls.Furthermore, you can use these tools to improve your processes like incident response, right? You can use them to log things. You can eliminate your SIEM by using this for your DLP. The problem of companies in the past is they wouldn't deploy on the entire infrastructure. So, you'd get one company, it would just be on-prem, or one company that would just run on CentOS.One of the reasons why I really liked this Uptycs company is because they built it on an osquery. Now, if you mention osquery, a lot of people glaze over, myself included before I worked at Uptycs. But apparently what it is, is it's this platform to collect a ton of data on the run state of a machine in real-time, pop it into a normalized SQL database, and it runs on a ton of stuff: Mac OS, Windows, like, tons of version of Linux because it's open-source, so people are porting it to their infrastructure. And that was one of these unique differentiators is, what is the cloud? I mean, AWS is a place where you can rapidly prototype, there's tons of automation, you can go in and you build something quickly and then it scales.But I view the cloud as just a simple abstraction to refer to all of my assets, be them POPS, on-premise data machines, you know, the corporate environment, laptops, desktops, the stuff that we buy in the public clouds, right? These things are all part of the greater cloud. So, when I think cloud security, I want something that does it all. That's very difficult because if you had one tool run on your cloud, one tool to run on your corporate environment, and one tool to run for your production environment, those tools are difficult to manage. And the data needs to be ETL, you know? It needs to be normalized. And that's very difficult to do.Our company is doing [unintelligible 00:14:07] security right now as a company that's taking all these data signals, and they're normalizing them, right, so that you can have one dashboard. That's a big trend in security right now. Because we're buying too many tools. So, I guess the answer that really is, I don't see the cloud is just AWS. I think AWS is not just data—they shouldn't call themselves the cloud. They call themselves the cloud with everything. You can come in, you can rapidly prototype your software, and you know what? You want to run to the largest scale possible? You can do that too. It's just the governance problem that we run into.Corey: Oh, yes. The AWS product strategy is pretty clearly, in a word, “Yes,” written on a Post-it note somewhere. That's the easiest job in the world is running their strategy. The challenge, too, is that we don't live in a world where monocultures are a thing anymore because regardless—if you use AWS for the underlying infrastructure, great, that makes a lot of sense. Use it for a lot of the higher-up the stack, SaaS-y type things that you don't want to have to build yourself from—by going to Home Depot and picking up components, you're doing something relatively foolish in most cases.They're a plumbing company not a porcelain company, in many respects. And regardless of what your intention is around multiple clouds, people wind up using different things. In most cases, you're going to be storing your source code in GitHub, not in AWS CodeCommit because CodeCommit doesn't really have any customers, for reasons that become blindingly apparent the first time you try to use it for something. So, you always wind up with these cross-cloud, cross-infrastructure stories. For any company that had the temerity to be founded before 2010, they probably have an on-premises data center as well—or six or more—and you're starting to try to wind up having a whole bunch of different abstractions viewed through the same lenses in terms of either observability or control plane or governance, or—dare I say it—security. And it feels like there are multiple approaches, all of which have their drawbacks, which of course means, it's complicated. What's your take on it?Jack: So, I think it was two years ago we started to see tools to do signal consumption. They would aggregate those signals and they would try and produce meaningful results that were actionable rather than you having to go and look at all this granular data. And I think that's phenomenal. I think a lot of companies are going to start to do that more and more. One of the other trends people do is they eliminated data and they went machine-learning and anomaly detection. And that didn't work.It missed a lot of things, right, or generated a lot of false positive. I think that one of the next big technologies—and I know it's been done for two years—but I think we're the next things we're going to see is the axonius of the consumption of events, the categorization into alerts-based synthetic data classification policies, and we're going to look at the severity classifications of those, they're going to be actionable in a priority queue, and we're going to eliminate the need for people that don't like their jobs and sit at a SOC all day and analyze a SIEM. I don't ever run a SIEM, but I think that this diversity can be a good thing. So, sometimes it's turned out to be a bad thing, right? We wanted to diversity, we don't want all the data to be homogenous. We don't need data standards because that limits things. But we do want competition. But I would ask you this, Corey, why do you think AWS? We remember 2007, right?Corey: I do. Oh, I've been around at least that long.Jack: Yeah, you remember when S3 came up. Was that 2007?Corey: I want to say 2004, 2005 in beta, and then relaunched as the first general available service. The first beta service was SQS, so there's always some question about which one was first. I don't get in the middle of those fights because all I'm going to do is upset people.Jack: But S3 was awesome. It still is awesome, right?Corey: Oh yes.Jack: And you know what I saw? I worked for a very older company with very strict governance. You know with SOX compliance, which is a joke, but we also had SOC compliance. I did HIPAA compliance for them. Tons of compliance to this.I'm not a compliance off, too, by trade. So, I started seeing [x cards 00:17:54], you know, these company personal cards, and people would go out and [unintelligible 00:17:57] platform because if they worked with my teams internally, if they wanted to get a small app deployed, it was like a two, three-month process. That process was long because of CFO overhead, approvals, vendor data security vetting, racking machines. It wasn't a problem that was inherent to the technology. I actually built a self-service cloud in that company. The problem was governance. It was financial approvals, it was product justification.So, I think AWS is really what made the internet inflect and scale and innovate amazingly. But I think that one of the things that it sacrificed was governance. So, if you tie a lot of what we're saying back together, by using some sort of tool that you can pop into a cloud environment and they can access a hundred percent of the infrastructure and look for risks, what you're doing is you're kind of X-Ray visioning into all these nodes that were deployed rapidly and kept around because they were crown jewels, and you're determining the risks that lie on them. So, let's say that 10 or 15% of your estate is prototype things that grew at a scale and we can't pull back into our governance infrastructure. A lot of times people think that those types of team machines are probably pretty locked down and they're probably low risk.If you throw a company on the side scanner or something like that, you'll see they have 90% of the risk, 80% of the risk. They're unpatched and they're old. So, I remember at one point in my career, right, I'm thinking Amazon's great. I'm—[unintelligible 00:19:20] on Amazon because they've made the internet go, they influxed. I mean, they've scaled us up like crazy.Corey: Oh, the capability store is phenomenal. No argument there.Jack: Yeah. The governance problem, though, you know, the government, there's a lot of hacks because of people using AWS poorly.Corey: And to be clear, that's everyone. We all are. I take a look at some of the horrible technical decisions I made even a couple of years ago, based upon what I know now, it's difficult to back out and wind up doing things the proper way. I wrote an article a while back, “17 Ways to Run Containers on AWS,” and listed all the services. And I think it was a little on the nose, but then I wrote 17, “More Ways to Run Containers on AWS,” but different services. And I'm about three-quarters of the way through the third in the sequel. I just need a couple more releases and we're good to go.Jack: The more and more complexity you add, the more security risk exists. And I've heard horror stories. Dictionary.com lost a lot of business once because a couple of former contractors deleted some instances in AWS. Before that, they had a secret machine they turned into a pixel [unintelligible 00:20:18] and had take down their iPhone app.I've seen some stuff. But one of the interesting things about deploying one of these tools in AWS, they can just, you know, look X-Ray vision on into all your compute, all your storage and say, “You have PIIs stored here, you have personal data stored here, you have this vulnerability, that vulnerability, this machine has already been compromised,” is you can take that to your CEO as a CISO and say, “Look, we were wrong, there's a lot of risk here.” And then what I've done in the past is I've used that to deploy HIDS—XDR, telemetry at scale, whatever you want to call it—these agent-based solutions, I've used that to justification for them. Now, the problem with this solutions that use agentless is almost all of them are just in the cloud. So, just a portion of your infrastructure.So, if your hybrid environment, you have data centers, you're ignoring the data centers. So, it's interesting because I've seen these companies position themselves as competitors when really, they're in complementary spaces, but one of them justified the other for me. So, I mean, what do you think about that awkward competition? Why was this competition exists between these people if they do completely different things?Corey: I'll take it a step further. I'm a big believer that security for the cloud providers should not be a revenue generator in any meaningful sense because at that point, they wind up with an inherent conflict of interest, where when they start charging, especially trying to do value-based pricing as they move up the stack, what they're inherently saying is, great, you can get our version of our services that is less secure, so that they're what they're doing is they're making security on their platform an inherent investment decision. And I've never been a big believer in that approach.Jack: The SSO tax.Corey: Oh, yes. And many others.Jack: Yeah. So, I was one of the first SSO tax contributors. That started it.Corey: You want data plane audit logging? Great, that'll cost you. But they finally gave in a couple of years back and made the first management trail for CloudTrail audit logging free for everyone. And people still advertently built second ones and then wonder why they're paying through the nose. Like, “Oh, that's 40 grand a month. That should be zero.” Great. Send that to your SIEM and then have that pass it out to where it needs to go. But so much of it is just these weird configuration taxes that people aren't fully aware exist.Jack: It's the market, right? The market is—so look at Amazon's IAM. It is amazing, right? It's totally robust, who is using it correctly? I know a lot of people are. I've been the CISO for over 100 companies and IAM is was one of those things that people don't know how to use, and I think the reason is because people aren't paying for it, so AWS can continue to innovate on it.So, we find ourselves with this huge influx of IAM tools in the startup scene. We all know Uptycs does some CIAM and some identity management stuff. But that's a great example of what you're talking about, right? These cloud companies are not making the things inherently secure, but they are giving some optionality. The products don't grow because they're not being consumed.And AWS doesn't tend to advertise them as much as the folks in the security industry. It's been one complaint of mine, right? And I absolutely agree with you. Most of the breaches are coming out of AWS. That's not AWS's fault. AWS's infrastructure isn't getting breached.It's the way that the customers are configuring the infrastructure. That's going to change a lot soon. We're starting to see a lot of change. But the fundamental issue here is that security needs to be invested in for short-term initiatives, not just for long-term initiatives. Customers need to care about security, not compliance. Customers need to see proof of security. A customer should be demanding that they're using a secure company. If you've ever been on the vendor approval side, you'll see it's very hard to push back on an insecure company going through the vendor process.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Uptycs, because they believe that many of you are looking to bolster your security posture with CNAPP and XDR solutions. They offer both cloud and endpoint security in a single UI and data model. Listeners can get Uptycs for up to 1,000 assets through the end of 2023 (that is next year) for $1. But this offer is only available for a limited time on UptycsSecretMenu.com. That's U-P-T-Y-C-S Secret Menu dot com.Corey: Oh, yes. I wound up giving probably about 100 companies now S3 Bucket Negligence Awards for being public about failing to secure their data and put that out into the world. I had one physical bucket made, the S3 Bucket Responsibility Award and presented it to their then director of security over at the Pokémon Company because there was a Wall Street Journal article talking about how their security review—given the fact that they are a gaming company that has children as their primary customer—they take it very seriously. And they cited the reason they're not to do business with one unnamed vendor was in part due to the lackadaisical approach around S3 bucket control. So, that was the one time I've seen in public a reference where, “Yeah, we were going to use a vendor and their security story was terrible, and we decided not to.”It's, why is that news? That should be a much more common story, but these days, it feels like procurement is rubber-stamping it and, like, “Okay, great. Fill out the form.” And, “Okay, you gave some wrong answers on the form. Try it again and tell the story differently until it gets shoved through.” It feels like it's a rubber stamp rather than a meaningful control.Jack: It's not a rubber stamp for me when I worked in it. And I'm a big guy, so they come to me, you know, like—that's how being, like, career law, it's just being big and intimidating. Because that's—I mean security kind of is that way. But, you know, I've got a story for you. This one's a little more bleak.I don't know if there's a company called Ask.fm—and I'll mention them by name—right, because, well, I worked for a company that did, like, a hostile takeover this company. And that's when I started working with [unintelligible 00:25:23]. [unintelligible 00:25:24]. I speak Russian and I learned it for work. I'm not Russian, but I learned the language so that I could do my job.And I was working for a company with a similar name. And we were in board meetings and we were crying, literally shedding tears in the boardroom because this other company was being mistaken for us. And the reason why we were shedding tears is because young women—you know, 11 to 13—were committing suicide because of online bullying. They had no health and safety department, no security department. We were furious.So, the company was hosted in Latvia, and we went over there and we installed one I lived in Latvia for quite a bit, working as the CISO to install a security program along with the health and safety person to install the moderation team. This is what we need to do in the industry, especially when it comes to children, right? Well, regulation solve it? I don't know.But what you're talking about the Pokémon video game, I remember that right? We can't have that kind of data being leaked. These are children. We need to protect them with information security. And in education technology, I'll tell you, it's just not a budget priority.So, the parents need to demand the security, we need to demand these audit certifications, and we need to demand that our audit firms are audited better. Our audit firms need to be explaining to security leaders that the control frameworks are something that they're responsible for creating bespoke. I did a presentation with Al Kingsley recently about security compliance, comparing FERPA and COPPA to the GDPR. And it was very interesting because FERPA has very little teeth, it's very long code and GDPR is relatively brilliant. GDPR made some changes. FERPA was so ambiguous and vague, it made a lot of changes, but they were kind of like, in any direction ever because nobody knows FERPA is. So, I don't know, what's the answer to that? What do we do?Corey: Yeah. The challenge is, you can see a lot of companies in specific areas doing the right thing, when they're intentionally going out on day one to, for example, service kids as a primary user base demographic. The challenge that you see with this is that, that's great, but then you have things that are not starting off with that point of view. And they started running into population limits and realize, okay, we've got to start expanding our user base somewhere, and then they went a bolting on those things is almost as an afterthought, where, “Oh, well, we've been basically misusing people's data for our entire existence, but now—now—we're suddenly magically going to do the right thing where kids are concerned.” I wish, but unfortunate that philosophy assumes a better take of humanity than is readily apparent.Jack: I wonder why they do that though, right? Something's got to, you know, news happened or something and that's why they're doing it. And that's not okay. But I have seen companies, one of the founders of Scantron—do you know what a Scantron is?Corey: Oh, yes. I'm much older than I look.Jack: Yeah, I'm much older than I look, too. I like to think that. But for those that don't know, a scantron, use a number two pencil and you filled in these little dots. And it was for taking tests. So, the guy who started Scantron, created a small two-person company.And AWS did something magnificent. They recognized that it was an education technology company, and they gave them, for free, security consultation services, security implementation services. And when we bought this company—I'm heavily involved in M&A, right—I'm sitting down with the two founders of the company, and my jaw is on the desk. They were more secure than a lot of the companies that I've worked with that had robust security departments. And I said, “How did you do this?”They said, “AWS provided us with this free service because we're education technology.” I teared up. My heart was—you know, that's amazing. So, there are companies that are doing this right, but then again, look at Grammarly. I hate to pick on Grammarly. LanguageTool is an open-source I believe, privacy-centric Grammarly competitor, but Grammarly, invest in your security a little more, man. Y'all were breached. They store a lot of data, they [unintelligible 00:29:10] lot of the data.Corey: Oh, and it scared the living hell out of companies realizing that they had business users using Grammarly as an extension to work on internal documents and just sending proprietary data to some third-party service that they clicked through the terms on and I don't know that it was ever shown the Grammarly was misusing any of that, but the potential for that is massive.Jack: Do you know what they were doing with it?Corey: Well, using AI to learn these things. Yeah, but it's the supervision story always involves humans reading it.Jack: They were building a—and I think—nobody knows the rumor, but I've worked in the industry, right, pretty heavily. They're doing something great for the world. I believe they're building a database of works submitted to do various things with them. One of those things is plagiarism detection. So, in order to do that they got to store, like, all of the data that they're processing.Well, if you have all the data that you've done for your company that's sitting in this Grammarly database and they get hacked—luckily, that's a lot of data. Maybe you'll be overlooked. But I've data breach database sitting here on my desk. Do you know how many rows it's got? [pause]. Yes, breach database.Corey: Oh, I wouldn't even begin to guess. I know the data volumes that Troy Hunt's Have I Been Pwned? Site winds up dealing with and it is… significant.Jack: How many billions of rows do you think it is?Corey: Ah, I'd say 20 as an argument?Jack: 34.Corey: Okay. Yeah, directionally right. Fermi estimation saves us yet again.Jack: [laugh]. The reason I build this breach database is because I thought Covid would slow down and I wanted it to do executive protection. Companies in the education space also suffer from [active 00:30:42] shooters and that sort of thing. So, that's another thing about security, too, is it transcends all these interesting areas, right? Like here, I'm doing executive risk protection by looking at open-source data.Protect the executives, show the executives that security is a concern, these executives that'll realize security's real. Then these past that security down in the list of priorities, and next thing you know, the 50 million active students that are using Turnitin are getting better security. Because an executive realized, “Hey, wait a minute, this is a real thing.” So, there's a lot of ways around this, but I don't know, it's a big space, there's a lot of competition. There's a lot of companies that are coming in and flashing out of the pan.A lot of companies are coming in and building snake oil. How do people know how to determine the right things to use? How do people don't want to implement? How do people understand that when they deploy a program that only applies to their cloud environment it doesn't touch there on-prem where a lot of data might be a risk? And how do we work together? How do we get teams like DevOps, IT, SecOps, to not fight each other for installing an agent for doing this?Now, when I looked at Uptycs, I said, “Well, it does the EDR for corp stuff, it does the host intrusion detection, you know, the agent-based stuff, I think, for the well because it uses a buzzword I don't like to use, osquery. It's got a bunch of cloud security configuration on it, which is pretty commoditized. It does agentless cloud scanning.” And it—really, I spent a lot of my career just struggling to find these tools. I've written some myself.And when I saw Uptycs, I was—I felt stupid. I couldn't believe that I hadn't used this tool, I think maybe they've increased substantially their capabilities, but it was kind of amazing to me that I had spent so much of my time and energy and hadn't found them. Luckily, I decided to joi—actually I didn't decide to join; they kind of decided for me—and they started giving it away for free. But I found that Uptycs needs a, you know, they need a brand refresh. People need to come and take a look and say, “Hey, this isn't the old Uptycs. Take a look.”And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm here as a technology evangelist, and I'll tell you right now, the minute I no longer am evangelists for this technology, the minute I'm no longer passionate about it, I can't do my job. I'm going to go do something else. So, I'm the one guy who will put it to your brass tacks. I want this thing to be the thing I've been passionate about for a long time. I want people to use it.Contact me directly. Tell me what's wrong with it. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm right. I really just want to wrap my head around this from the industry perspective, and say, “Hey, I think that these guys are willing to make the best thing ever.” And I'm the craziest person in security. Now, Corey, who's the craziest person security?Corey: That is a difficult question with many wrong answers.Jack: No, I'm not talking about McAfee, all right. I'm not that level of crazy. But I'm talking about, I was obsessed with this XDR, CDR, all the acronyms. You know, we call it HIDS, I was obsessed with it for years. I worked for all these companies.I quit doing, you know, a lot of very good entrepreneurial work to come work at this company. So, I really do think that they can fix a lot of this stuff. I've got my fingers crossed, but I'm still staying involved in other things to make these technologies better. And the software's security space is going all over the place. Sometimes it's going bad direction, sometimes it's going to good directions. But I agree with you about Amazon producing tools. I think it's just all market-based. People aren't going to use the complex tools of Amazon when there's all this other flashy stuff being advertised.Corey: It all comes down to marketing budget, and AWS has always struggled with telling a story. I really want to thank you for being so generous with your time. If people want to learn more, where should they go?Jack: Oh, gosh, everywhere. But if you want to learn more about Uptycs, why don't you just email me?Corey: We will, of course, put your email address into the show notes.Jack: Yeah, we'll do it.Corey: Don't offer if you're not serious. There's also uptycssecretmenu.com, which is apparently not much of a secret, given the large banner all over Uptycs' website.Jack: Have you seen this? Let me just tell you about this. This is not a catch. I was blown away by this; it's one of the reasons I joined. For a buck, if you have between 100 and 1000 nodes, right, you get our agentless system and our agent-based system, right?I think it's only on AWS. But that's, like, what, $150, $180,000 value? You get it for a full year. You don't have to sign a contract to renew or anything. Like, you just get it for a buck. If anybody who doesn't go on to the secret menu website and pay $1 and check out this agentless solution that deploys in two minutes, come on, man.I challenge everybody, go on there, do that, and tell me what's wrong with it. Go on there, do that, and give me the feedback. And I promise you I'll do everything in my best efforts to make it the best. I saw the engineering team in this company, they care. Ganesh, the CEO, he is not your average CEO.This guy is in tinkerers. He's on there, hands on keyboard. He responds to me in the middle of night. He's a geek just like me. But we need users to give us feedback. So, you got this dollar menu, you sign up before the 31st, right? You get the product for buck. Deploy the thing in two minutes.Then if you want to do the XDR, this agent-based system, you can deploy that at your leisure across whichever areas you want. Maybe you want a corporate network on laptops and desktops, your production infrastructure, your compute in the cloud, deploy it, take a look at it, tell me what's wrong with it, tell me what's right with it. Let's go in there and look at it together. This is my job. I want this company to work, not because they're Uptycs but because I think that they can do it.And this is my personal passion. So, if people hit me up directly, let's chat. We can build a Slack, Uptycs skunkworks. Let's get this stuff perfect. And we're also going to try and get some advisory boards together, like, maybe a CISO advisory board, and just to get more feedback from folks because I think the Uptycs brand has made a huge shift in a really positive direction.And if you look at the great thing here, they're unifying this whole agentless and agent-based stuff. And a lot of companies are saying that they're competing with that, those two things need to be run together, right? They need to be run together. So, I think the next steps here, check out that dollar menu. It's unbelievable. I can't believe that they're doing it.I think people think it's too good to be true. Y'all got nothing to lose. It's a buck. But if you sign up for it right now, before the December 31st, you can just wait and act on it any month later. So, just if you sign up for it, you're just locked into the pricing. And then you want to hit me up and talk about it. Is it three in the morning? You got me. It's it eight in the morning? You got me.Corey: You're more generous than I am. It's why I work on AWS bills. It's strictly a business-hours problem.Jack: This is not something that they pay me for. This is just part of my personal passion. I have struggled to get this thing built correctly because I truly believe not only is it really cool—and I'm not talking about Uptycs, I mean all the companies that are out there—but I think that this could be the most powerful tool in security that makes the world more secure. Like, in a way that keeps up with the security risks increasing.We just need to get customers, we need to get critics, and if you're somebody who wants to come in and prove me wrong, I need help. I need people to take a look at it for me. So, it's free. And if you're in the San Francisco Bay Area and you give me some good feedback and all that, I'll take you out to dinner, I'll introduce you to startup companies that I think, you know, you might want to advise. I'll help out your career.Corey: So, it truly is dollar menu then.Jack: Well, I'm paying for the dinner out my personal thing.Corey: Exactly. Well, again, you're also paying for the infrastructure required to provide the service, so, you know, one way or another, it's all the best—it's just like Cloud, there is no cloud. It's just someone else's cost center. I like that.Jack: Well, yeah, we're paying for a ton of data hosting. This is a huge loss leader. Uptycs has a lot of money in the bank, I think, so they're able to do this. Uptycs just needs to get a little more bold in their marketing because I think they've spent so much time building an awesome product, it's time that we get people to see it. That's why I did this.My career was going phenomenally. I was traveling the world, traveling the country promoting things, just getting deals left and right and then Elias—my buddy over at Orca; Elias, one of the best marketing guys I've ever met—I've never done marketing before. I love this. It's not just marketing. It's like I get to take feedback from people and make the product better and this is what I've been trying to do.So, you're talking to a crazy person in security. I will go well above and beyond. Sign up for that dollar menu. I'm telling you, it is no commitment, maybe you'll get some spam email or something like that. Email me directly, I'll kill the spam email.You can do it anytime before the end of 2023. But it's only for 2023. So, you got a full year of the services for free. For free, right? And one of them takes two minutes to deploy, so start with that one. Let me know what you think. These guys ideate and they pivot very quickly. I would love to work on this. This is why I came here.So, I haven't had a lot of opportunity to work with the practitioners. I'm there for you. I'll create a Slack, we can all work together. I'll invite you to my Slack if you want to get involved in secondaries investing and startup advisory. I'm a mentor and a leader in this space, so for me to be able to stay active, this is like a quid pro quo with me working for this company.Uptycs is the company that I've chosen now because I think that they're the ones that are doing this. But I'm doing this because I think I found the opportunity to get it done right, and I think it's going to be the one thing in security that when it is perfected, has the biggest impact.Corey: We'll see how it goes out over the coming year, I'm sure. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. I appreciate it.Jack: I like you. I like you, Corey.Corey: I like me too.Jack: Yeah? All right. Okay. I'm telling [unintelligible 00:39:51] something. You and I are very weird.Corey: It works out.Jack: Yeah.Corey: Jack Charles Roehrig, Technology Evangelist at Uptycs. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn and this is Screaming in the Cloud. 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Al Kingsley has spent the last 30 years in the EdTech space and 20 of those as a school trustee and governor. He is co-chair of Workstream 4 at the Foundation for Educational Development, an organization developing a framework for long-term vision and sustainable planning in England. Al is Group CEO of NetSupport Ltd, an internationally acclaimed EdTech vendor. As a firm supporter of lifelong learning, he is also a regional Apprenticeship Ambassador and Chair of the Employment & Skills board for his region's combined authority. An active writer about all things EdTech, Al is a member of the Forbes Technology Council and sits on the advisory council for the Foundation for Education Development. He authored a book, My Secret #EdTech Diary, released in July 2021 that is a road map to a new way of thinking about technology in education. Many similarities - Local authority schools, state run, and private/independent school. Two checkpoints in year 2 and year 6 Internal (teacher-based) and external assessments (formal assessments marked and moderated externally). GCSE - age 16 in a range of subjects. Types of assessments Attainment - comparative score Progress - how much they grew. A Levels - final exam before college. What is the purpose and the outcome of these measures? external serves only 2 measures - certificate of completion or accountability for schools Are those results where they are in attainment, or are there other reasons. Whether our measure of a successful education is acquisition of knowledge or something more? Staff retention PISA is suggesting some changes in how to assess students. Sugata Mitra ted talk NAEP scores for last 15 years - 15–16 jurisdictions in US that were low consistently. Educational decisions are made in political cycles. We don't want quick change, we want long term embedded money. What are the indicators that might vary the funding for schools? Respect and trust our school leaders. Who knows our students best? Do we trust those people? The skills being acquired in the workplace are actually the things we're putting more weight on in the world. Key skills that could be applied anywhere. Education for Human Flourishing Aesthetic appreciation - How do you measure if people value their learning process at your school? Test less and Don't make the test 100% percent of the assessment. Breadth of offerings. Sponsors Pikmykid Improve your school dismissal and safety response with Pikmykid, the Schools Safety and Dismissal Platform. Help move your dismissal from chaos to calm, get kids to their families faster and safer.  Visit pikmykid.com/be to learn more Transformative Principal Mastermind Lead a school everyone can be proud of. Being a principal is tough work. You're pulled in all kinds of directions. You never have the time to do the work that really matters. Join me as I help school leaders find the time to do the work they became principals to do. I help you stop putting out fires and start leading. Learn more at https://transformativeprincipal.com

Al Kingsley is the CEO of NetSupport and Chair of a Multi-Academy Trust As well as his CEO and Chair roles, Al is an FED Co-chair of two groups, Chair of the BESA EdTech Group,  member of Forbes Technology Council, and chairs his regional Employment and Skills Board. He's a well-known face in EdTech speaking internationally; the author of “My Secret #EdTech Diary” and co-author of “A Guide to Creating a Digital Strategy in Education”.     Show Highlights Interesting ideas on how to roll out and adopt technology Create a school that's actually responsive to community needs. Be a firm believer in lifelong learning and become an Edu sponge.  Reevaluating how to effectively label, measure and validate high performing schools. The misalignment between high stakes tests and student performance.  How to be a school responsive to the students and the community you're in front of needs? Stop buying technology that  doesn't deliver and adopt a strong digital vision within your school or district. Al Kingsley Transcript “I think that that love of learning really comes down to inquisitiveness and that sense of actually, the more you learn, the more you realize you don't know.”   “The one thing I want every child to leave school with is a love of learning and a passion to learn more. Not a sense of ``I've got through that and never again.'” -Al Kingsley Al Kingsley's Resources & Contact Info: My Secret #EdTech Diary: Twitter Linkedin Instagram Netsupport Radio- Podcast EdTech Shared | a podcast Websites –  https://www.netsupportsoftware.com/ https://www.alkingsley.com  https://authory.com/AlKingsley Read my latest book! Learn why the ABCs of powerful professional development™ work – Grow your skills by integrating more Authenticity, Belonging, and Challenge into your life and leadership.   Read Mastermind: Unlocking Talent Within Every School Leader today! Join the “Back to School Boot Camp” The one thing you need to start next year off with energy momentum is a solid 90-day plan.   In the “Back to School Bootcamp” I will teach you how to create your 90-day plan in just 5-days.   Join the challenge today! Apply to the Mastermind The mastermind is changing the landscape of professional development for school leaders.    100% of our members agree that the mastermind is the #1 way they grow their leadership skills.   Apply to the mastermind today!   SHOW SPONSORS: HARVARD GRADUATE SCHOOL OF EDUCATION Transform how you lead to become a resilient and empowered change agent with Harvard's online Certificate in School Management and Leadership. Grow your professional network with a global cohort of fellow school leaders as you collaborate in case studies bridging the fields of education and business. Apply today at http://hgse.me/leader.   TEACHFX School leaders know that productive student talk drives student learning, but the average teacher talks 75% of class time! TeachFX is changing that with a “Fitbit for teachers” that automatically measures student engagement and gives teachers feedback about what they could do differently.  Learn more about the TeachFX app and get a special 20% discount for your school or district by visiting teachfx.com/blbs.   ORGANIZED BINDER Organized Binder is the missing piece in many classrooms. Many teachers are great with the main content of the lesson. Organized Binder helps with powerful introductions, savvy transitions, and memorable lesson closings. Your students will grow their executive functioning skills (and as a bonus), your teachers will become more organized too. Help your students and staff level up with Organized Binder.   Copyright © 2022 Twelve Practices LLC        

Caroline talks to Al Kingsley about his new book 'My School Governance Handbook'. Edtech,  data privacy, working in a AP and why we all love our pets! Tune in for a chilled sunday morning chat and hashtag #TTRadio @Ka81 @AlKingsley_Edu to give us your thoughts!

Al describes himself as a man of two hats, with one he the is CEO of the EdTech company, NetSupport, with almost 30 years' experience in corporate and educational technology. With his other, and with a passion for education and, in particular edtech, governance and raising organisational performance, Al has undertaken numerous roles in education, including being Chair of a Multi-Academy Trust and of an Alternative Provision Academy. He is chair of his regions Governors' Leadership Group and chairs the regional SEND Board. With 20+ years of governance experience, Al also sits on the Regional Schools Commissioner's Advisory Board for the East of England and North London, is an FED Council member, Chair of the BESA EdTech Group and chairs his regional Employment and Skills Board. A well-known face in EdTech around the world, Al is also the author of "My Secret #EdTech Diary" and co-author of “A Guide to Creating a Digital Strategy in Education”. Al writes and speaks internationally on the effective use of Educational Technology and is a Forbes Technology Council Member. Website https://www.netsupportsoftware.com/ (www.netsupportsoftware.com) https://alkingsley.com/ (www.alkingsley.com) Social Media Information Twitter - https://twitter.com/AlKingsley_Edu LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alkingsley1/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/edtechdiary/ Website – https://www.alkingsley.com Authory - https://authory.com/AlKingsley Show Sponsor The National Association for Primary Education speaks for young children and all who live and work with them. Get a FREE e-copy of their professional journal at https://nape.org.uk/journal (nape.org.uk/journal)

Where will edtech go in the future? How do we evaluate what to keep doing and what to change? What are the biggest mistakes with edtech that are causing undue technostress on teachers? Al Kingsley tackles these questions and more on this episode. Show Notes, Transcript & Resources: https://www.coolcatteacher.com/e788/  Sponsor: Educator wellness is now more important than ever. Go to coolcatteacher.com/wellness and download your free educator wellness toolkit from Advancement Courses. You'll get access to activities, strategies, and tools to improve the four domains of wellness. Also, you can save 20% off your next course by using the code CAT20. I love their courses because they are flexible, with up to 6 months to complete, and you can receive graduate credit through CAEP and regionally accredited university partners or continuing education units that meet your state requirements. With over 280 courses to choose from, Advancement Course offers subjects in everything from educator wellness to social-emotional learning and more. After you pick your PD, use the code CAT20 to save 20%. Thank you, Advancement Courses, for sponsoring today's show. Al Kingsley - Bio as Submitted Al Kingsley is CEO of the EdTech company NetSupport and is Chair of a Multi-Academy Trust. He is also a published Author and has almost 30 years' experience in education technology, digital strategy, and improving learning outcomes. Website = https://alkingsley.com/  Twitter = @AlKingsley_Edu Instagram =@ alkingsley

Al Kingsley has been the CEO of NetSupport for over 26 years and an Edtech Industry veteran for 30+ years. He is a school governor in his native U.K. and was just named co-chair of Workstream 4 at the Foundation for Educational Development. He's a frequent speaker on the global edtech circuit and has his own podcast NetSupport Radio. He authored a book last summer titled, My Secret #EdTech Diary. And he was recently named Edtech Digest's 2022 Best Edtech Author/Speaker or Podcaster. Al rejoins host Mike Palmer in a conversation about the need for respect for educators in these challenging times. We explore pathways into careers in EdTech and School Leadership as Al imparts his broad experience in international education trends and online learning Subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you get your podcasts. Visit us at Trendingined.com for more sharp takes on the future of education.

Al Kingsley is CEO of NetSupport and also serves as the Chair of two Multi Academy Trusts and a local School Governors' Leadership Group in the UK. Al is a sought-after speaker and popular podcaster (NetSupport Radio). His book My Secret #EdTech Diary is not only a walk through his 30 year history in education, but also expresses a new way of thinking about technology in education. How technology use has changed. It's about the usage of the technology. Redefining what our measures of impact are! No two schools are the same. Reflective practice. How do we know it is being used effectively? Be realistic in how we are interacting. Tech is part of what we already do! How do you decide which tools to use when? Pedagogical expertise to decide when to use tools Trust the people that are in the position to help the kids. Empower teachers to make choices, but peer assess of colleagues and what they are using. The role of students regarding ed tech. Student voice is critical in evaluating ed tech. Competence is not the same thing as wisdom. Digital Citizenship routine, connectivity with a familiar face, were vital during the emergency remote teaching Learner to learner engagement is important. Skills rather than knowledge are what unlocks the future. We need to get kids to the right place to learn. No matter how much technology grows, it requires humans to be focused. It's not about the technology, it's about the behavior. How to utilize technology. Pause and make sure all stakeholders understand why, how, and what you're using. Always expect to invest at the same amount in professional development as you do in the tool itself. Less is more. Do you have any advice for these education leaders to do their best with the technology investment they've made in their schools? Is that advice different in 2022 than it was in 2019? What are the one or two changes in technology use (or even new tech tools) that would make a real difference in mental health and self-actualization of students? What security aspects should schools look out for when buying/reviewing technology?

FETC 2022 - Al Kingsley - 30 years in edtech yields a wealth of perspective about the role of technology in classrooms and opportunities ahead for entrepreneurs, investors, and school IT leaders. Al Kingsley has steered what is arguably one of the largest and longest standing edtech companies through the edtech revolution and has written about the lessons learned in his new book, My Secret #EdTech Diary. Al is also presenting at FETC on 28th at 11am on ‘Developing a Digital Strategy: Planning, Process, Documentation, and Practical Advice'. Social Media Username(s) @AlKingsley_Edu --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/edutechguys-conference/support

In this episode, Al shares his journey of working in the Education Technology space.  His role in supporting schools and the learnings and experiences highlighted in his new book My Secret #EdTech Diary. Al shares anecdotes and his experiences exploring the opportunities, challenges, and changes in Education Technology in schools today and the impact on educators and students.   About Al Kingsley Al has spent the last 30 years in the EdTech space and 20 of those as a school trustee and governor.    He is group CEO of NetSupport, an internationally acclaimed EdTech vendor, and has lived and worked in both the UK and US. He is Chair of two multi academy trusts and an alternative provision academy, all in the East of England.   Alongside these roles, Al also sits on the Regional Schools Commissioners' Head Teachers board for the East of England and North-East London and is an independent Chair of the county's SEND board.   As a firm supporter of lifelong learning, he is also a regional Apprenticeship Ambassador and Chair of the Employment & Skills board for his region's combined authority.   An active writer about all things EdTech, including his new book “My Secret #EdTech Diary”, he is also a member of the Forbes Technology Council and sits on the advisory council for the Foundation for Education Development.   Al Kingsley on Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alkingsley1/ Twitter: @AlKingsley_Edu    Websites: NetSupportSoftware.com  (Company Website) bio.link/kingsley  (Personal Website) authory.com/AlKingsley   Resources: Free Digital strategy guide - https://www.netsupportsoftware.com/digital-strategy/ To delve a bit deeper into the broader role of EdTech in Education, you can find my details about Al's book here - https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ak5H39NNyqAzhKtO99D2t96cTSQnEw?e=SsaRXk   John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org   Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantcz/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanTaylorAE Web: www.appsevents.com   Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube   Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we'll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

Welcome to FreshAirAtFive (FAAF) Podcast - Episode 26 I'm your host, Bryon Carpenter In this episode, I share my daily reflection posted on Twitter @bryoncar, from June 21st to 25th, 2021 I reflect on these podcast episode from my listens on the: 21st: My EdTech Life E73 "My Secret EdTech Diary with Al Kingsley" 22nd: Got TechEd E88 "10 Ways the Pandemic Made Us Better Teachers" 23rd: DEFINE YOUniversity E73 "Going from THOUGHT to REALITY using the DEFINE Mindset Method"; 3 Caffienated Coaches E13 "Spill the Tea with Nyree Clark" 24th: Lesson Impossible E66 "Agents Mealey & Tudisco (Educational Podcasting)"; The Staffroom Podcast "The Summer Series with Jason To" 25th: UnProfessional Development E79 "Just Us! Pre-podlooza" Next Episode: July 9th at midnight - stay tuned. You can connect with me by leaving a Voice Message here or following me on Twitter (@FreshAirAtFive or @bryoncar) ------------------------------ As my OneWord for 2021 is APPRECIATE, I appreciate you giving this my first-attempt-in-learning to create a podcast experience a listen. Subscribe so you don't miss any upcoming episodes and please give me a review on Apple Podcast to get my voice out there further. ------------------------------ Track: It's Almost Over - SelChol ( NoCopyrightMusic ) | My Audio Library | Background Music Bumper: Chris Nesi House of EdTech Podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/freshairatfive5/message

April 2 2021 - Episode 43The Ignite EdTech Podcast with @mrkempnz1. Introduction 2. Question for you - How do you ensure that it is learning first, technology second in your setting? 3. EdTech Tool of the Week - CommonLit4. EdTech Tip of the Week - Google Tips and Tricks5. Interview with Stacey Roshan and Al Kingsley6. Win this weeks prize (merchandise from Al Kingsley and Net Support) by going to bit.ly/edtechwin and completing the short form (Competition ends 9am SGT on Wednesday 7 April).7. Subscribe, Rate and ShareIf you have a question that you want answered on the podcast please emailinfo@igniteedtech.comConnect with Mark Quinn here or via email markquinn9129@gmail.com - Make a Difference Podcast (Mark Quinn)Links from PodcastIgnite EdTech Learning Portal (Learning Courses for everyone - Sign up for FREE today to join the biggest and fastest growing EdTech community online!)Stacey Roshan on TwitterStacey's BookStacey's Website Educational Duct Tape PodcastAl Kingsley on TwitterAl's Website and PodcastThe Blended Learning WorkbookSylvia Duckworth - SketchnotingMicrosoft Office LensNet Support