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This week, Marques, Andrew, and David start things off with Instagram Ring awards, a new electric skateboard, and final thoughts on the Pixel 10 Pro Fold. Then they talk all about the new Tesla Model 3 and Model Y standard editions before trying to explain a mystery cultural event in terms of tech. It's a chaotic one. Enjoy! Links: Instagram Rings post: https://creators.instagram.com/blog/introducing-instagram-rings Liquid Skateboard video: https://liquidskateboard.com/ Verge - Boox P6: https://www.theverge.com/news/794751/onyx-boox-p6-pro-e-ink-reader-smartphone-color-palma MKBHD - Pixel 10 Pro Fold video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8RS0sR-qA Reddit - iPhone discoloration thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1ny7nt9/comment/nhssp50/ Decoder - RJ Scaring (Rivian CEO) interview: https://www.theverge.com/podcast/790685/rivian-ceo-rj-scaringe-r2-tariffs-china-ev-apple-carplay Gjeebs - Model Y Standard video: https://youtu.be/qbApdIzx29U?si=FTnDGNAMqTZJRWas&t=336 Everyday Chris - Tesla Model Y video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbApdIzx29U&t=336s Autofocus- Tesla Alternatives video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llRut0MpjfU This episode is brought to you by: ⁠Monarch Money - www.monarchmoney.com (Code: wave) Coda - www.Coda.io (Code: wave) ⁠LinkedIn⁠ - www.linkedIn.com/mkbhd Grammarlu - www.grammarly.com/podcast Music provided by ⁠Epidemic Sound ⁠ ⁠Shop the merch!⁠ Social: ⁠Waveform Threads⁠ ⁠Waveform Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠Waveform TikTok⁠⁠ Hosts: ⁠Marques⁠ ⁠Andrew⁠ ⁠David⁠ ⁠Adam⁠ ⁠Ellis⁠ Join the ⁠Discord⁠ Music by ⁠20syl⁠ Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Supreme Court's decision in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard ended decades of race-conscious admissions in higher education. Supporters argue the ruling restores colorblind fairness, while critics warn it risks undoing decades of progress toward equal opportunity. On this week's Stay Tuned with Preet, Yale Law Professor Justin Driver, author of The Fall of Affirmative Action: Race, the Supreme Court, and the Future of Higher Education, joins Preet to trace the history of affirmative action — from Lyndon Johnson's call for “true equality” in 1965 to the Court's recent decision — and to explore what colleges can still do to build diverse classrooms within the confines of the law. Then, Preet answers your questions about the recent court ruling on deploying the National Guard to Portland, Oregon. In the bonus for Insiders, Justin Driver reflects on how his father's sacrifices shaped his understanding of opportunity and education. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter at The Verge and your Thursday episode guest host. It's been a very big news week in AI, and a lot of it had to do with OpenAI, its DevDay in San Francisco this week, and the viral explosion of AI-generated video thanks to the company's new Sora app.  So I brought in Kanjun Qiu, CEO of AI startup Imbue and a close watcher of the industry, to break down what's really happening, why it's happening, and the societal implications of it all. Links: All of the updates from OpenAI DevDay 2025 | The Verge OpenAI wasn't expecting Sora's copyright drama | The Verge I've fallen into Sora's slippery slop | The Verge Sora 2 users are having fun with Sam Altman's face | The Verge OpenAI will let developers build apps that work inside ChatGPT | The Verge OpenAI wants ChatGPT to be your future operating system | Wired Sora 2 watermark removers flood the web | 404 Media What the arrival of AI-fabricated video means for us | NYT Recruiters use AI to scan résumés — applicants are trying to trick it | NYT Employers are buried in AI-generated résumés | NYT Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The FBI has reportedly discussed staging a “perp walk” with former FBI Director Jim Comey. In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the legality of publicly arresting a high-profile criminal defendant and how this spectacle could help Comey's defense. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss the next steps in the Comey prosecution. They also break down a federal judge's opinion in Kilmar Abrego Garcia's criminal case, finding signs of vindictive prosecution by the government. Plus, a federal judge's ruling blocking the Trump administration from deploying National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I'm Joanna Stern, the senior personal tech columnist at The Wall Street Journal, and this is my final Decoder episode filling in for Nilay while he's out on parental leave. My guest today: Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe. This is RJ's third time on the show, and it felt like the perfect follow-up to my conversation last week with Ford CEO Jim Farley. I loved the idea of going straight from Ford to Rivian. And if you listened to the Farley episode, this one flows nicely. RJ and I cover a lot of the same challenges: tariffs, China, EV pricing. Of course, I also asked about CarPlay.  Links:  A pretty fascinating look under the hood of the Rivan R2 | The Verge Rivian CEO says CarPlay isn't going to happen | The Verge Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe says too many carmakers are copying Tesla | Decoder Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe isn't scared of the Cybertruck | Decoder Rivian breaks ground on $5 billion Georgia plant | AP Rivian narrows 2025 delivery guidance Q3 as production slips | WSJ Rivian R2 remains on track for $45,000 and 2026 production | Car and Driver Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David is back! And after putting the iPhone 17 Pro camera to the test he thought of a fun camera comparison game for us to play (link below if you want to play along). Before that, Marques gives his first impressions using the Meta Display glasses. We also talk about a bunch of new speakers and other hardware from Amazon and Google. We wrap it up with the interview between Marques, James Cameron, and Boz. It's a chaotic episode so we hope you enjoy! Links: Casey Neistat smart glasses video Verge - Amazon event recap New Google Home devices David's slideshow - play along! David's RAW pictures Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch! Social: Waveform Threads Waveform Instagram ⁠Waveform TikTok⁠ Hosts: Marques Andrew David Adam Ellis Join the Discord Music by 20syl Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Antony Blinken was the 71st Secretary of State, serving under President Joe Biden. As the nation's top diplomat, he worked on restoring U.S. ties with allies and multilateral institutions following Trump's first term. He also led U.S. aid responses in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's war in Gaza after the October 7 Hamas attack. Both of those wars rage on today. Secretary Blinken joins Preet to discuss Trump's latest peace proposal for Gaza, the President's recent about-face on Ukraine, and the relevance of the U.N. Then, Preet answers your questions about the Comey indictment.  In the bonus for Insiders, Secretary Blinken shares his thoughts on his successor, Secretary Marco Rubio. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter at The Verge and your Thursday episode guest host. Today, I'm talking with David Hershey, who leads the applied AI team at Anthropic. I wanted to have David on because earlier this week, Anthropic released a brand-new AI model called Claude Sonnet 4.5 that's been making waves. So I wanted to sit down with David, who spends a lot of time testing out what modes like Claude Sonnet 4.5 can and can't do, to ask him where we are on this promise of AI agents, and also what the path forward looks like as agentic technology progresses. Links:  Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 in latest bid for AI agents | The Verge ChatGPT's built-in Buy Now button has arrived | The Verge OpenAI really wants you to start your day with ChatGPT Pulse | The Verge Anthropic's Claude AI is playing Pokémon | The Verge  AI agents are science fiction not yet ready for primetime | The Verge Agents are the future AI companies promise and need | The Verge  Amazon is betting on agents to win the AI race | Decoder Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is the Jim Comey indictment fatally flawed? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the weaknesses in the case against the former FBI Director, who was charged with making a false statement and obstructing a congressional proceeding. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further discuss the Comey prosecution. They also break down the Justice Department's decision to close an investigation into Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, for allegedly accepting a $50,000 bribe.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Joanna Stern, senior personal technology columnist at The Wall Street Journal. I'm the last Monday guest host filling in for Nilay here on Decoder while he's out on parental leave with his adorable new son, and I'm very excited to be talking today to Ford CEO Jim Farley. I'm a longtime Decoder listener and my favorite episodes are car episodes. I think car CEOs are currently facing some of the most fascinating and complex challenges in both tech and business. So when I was asked to guest host the show I said, “That's it, car CEOs.” And Farley was at the top of the list. This was a great conversation that covered a lot of ground. I think you're going to like it.  Links: I've been driving an EV for a year. I have only one regret. | WSJ Ford reveals breakthrough process for lower priced EVs | The Verge Ford is betting the future on smaller EV batteries | The Verge Ford is doubling down on EVs — the timing is awful | The Verge Ford's CEO on the essential economy and its untapped potential | Aspen Institute Ford rejigs EV plans after suffering billions in losses | NYT Why Americans can't buy the world's best electric car | NYT Ford CEO Jim Farley on building the electric F-150 | Decoder Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia has indicted former FBI Director James Comey on charges of making a false statement to Congress and obstructing a congressional proceeding. In this recording from a Substack livestream, Preet and Joyce Vance, former U.S. Attorney and co-host of the Insider podcast, share their reactions to the Comey indictment and the danger of politicizing law enforcement, describing it as a moment that has “crossed the Rubicon.” They break down the lead-up to the charges, the merits of the case and the strength of the evidence, the reactions from Comey and from Trump's supporters, and how the case is likely to unfold. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, David is out on vacation so Marques and Andrew hold down the fort talking about ceramic keyboards, iPhones, smartphone awards, horses vs F1 cars, and everything in between! Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia. Links: iFixit - iPhone Air Keychron - ceramic keyboard Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How does common knowledge become… common knowledge? Steven Pinker is a cognitive psychologist and professor at Harvard University. He joins Preet to discuss his latest book, When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows...: Common Knowledge and the Mysteries of Money, Power, and Everyday Life, about how shared awareness shapes norms and shifts collective behavior.  Then, Preet answers your questions about America's very first law enforcement agency and Border Czar Tom Homan's alleged $50,000 bribe. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Pinker discuss how laughter and comedy informs common knowledge and vice versa. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBhararaon Twitter or Bluesky with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter at The Verge — and your Thursday episode guest host. I have another couple of shows for you while Nilay is out on parental leave, and we're going to be spending more time diving into some of the unforeseen consequences of the generative AI boom. Today, I'm talking with Heidy Khlaaf, who is chief AI scientist at the AI Now Institute, about the tech industry's shift toward AI military applications. I wanted to know what's motivated this shift, and why Heidy thinks leading AI firms are being far too cavalier about deploying generative AI in high-risk scenarios. Links: OpenAI is softening its stance on military use | The Verge OpenAI awarded $200 million US defense contract | The Verge OpenAI is partnering with defense tech company Anduril | The Verge Anthropic launches new Claude service for military and intelligence use | The Verge Anthropic, Palantir, Amazon team up on defense AI | Axios Google scraps promise not to develop AI weapons | The Verge Microsoft employees occupy headquarters in protest of Israel contracts | The Verge Microsoft's employee protests have reached a boiling point | The Verge Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why is President Trump's recent Truth Social post directed at Attorney General Pam Bondi so dangerous? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the president's post urging AG Bondi to prosecute political rivals and what it reveals about Trump's attitude toward his opponents.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down Charlie Kirk's assassination, from the investigation and charges that followed to the political aftermath, and the First Amendment controversies that have arisen since. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host Hank Green talks with his friend Dropout CEO Sam Reich about keeping a business simple, trying to run a company the “right way,” and why the internet should be full of as many weird little projects as possible. Links:  How CollegeHumor reinvented itself for the new internet age | People CollegeHumor shaped online comedy. What went wrong? [2020] | Wired ‘I believe in this enough to try to do it myself' [2020] | Digiday Jacob Wysocki needed a minute to process that Game Changer | Vulture Game Changer smartly weaponizes its online following | Mashable Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer is betting on the human touch | Decoder Vimeo to be acquired by Bending Spoons for $1.38B | The Verge Transcript:  Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David have a ton to talk about. They start it off with experiences after using the new iPhones for a week before talking about the rumors that MacBooks might finally be getting a touchscreen. Then Marques updates everyone on all of the new features that YouTube announced. After that, it's all about the three new Meta glasses that were announced at Meta Connect. Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia. Enjoy! Links: HTX Studio - iPhone 17 video MacRumors - OLED MacBook rumors Electrek - Rivian E-Bike leak Verge - Nothing charging case mic Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ever wonder how special counsel investigations really work, and what goes on behind the scenes? Former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and Stay Tuned contributor Elie Honig offers insider access to the key players in his latest book, When You Come at the King: Inside DOJ's Pursuit of the President, from Nixon to Trump. It is a riveting account of six modern special counsel cases compiled through dozens of interviews and firsthand stories.  In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Elie discuss what makes Elie such a prolific writer, plus, that one time the mob tried to kill Curtis Sliwa.  Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's bonus episode time! We went outside right after the iPhone announcement event to get first reactions from people walking by. Thanks to everyone who stopped by to chat! Let us know if you like this new format and we might bring it back for future events. Enjoy! Thanks to everyone who spoke with us! Follow their work below: Chris Niccolls and PetaPixel Mobile Syrup - Brad Bennett Verge - Allison Johnson Brett Tech Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verge senior AI reporter Hayden Field and New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill discuss the significant mental health impact AI chatbots, such as ChatGPT, can have on users — both people in crisis, and also people who seemed stable. This episode contains non-detailed discussions of suicide and mental illness. If you or someone you know is in crisis, considering self-harm, or needs to talk, please call the Lifeline at 988. Links:  A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in. | New York Times Sam Altman says ChatGPT will stop talking about suicide with teens | The Verge Chatbots can go into a delusional spiral. Here's how. | New York Times Why is ChatGPT telling people to email me? | New York Times They asked an AI chatbot questions. The answers sent them spiraling. | New York Times She is in love with ChatGPT | The New York Times ‘I feel like I'm going crazy': ChatGPT fuels delusional spirals | Wall Street Journal Meta, OpenAI face FTC inquiry on chatbots' impact on kids | Bloomberg Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How is the Supreme Court emboldening President Trump's continuing expansion of power? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Joyce Vance discusses the “appeasement theory” with Dahlia Lithwick, the Slate senior editor and host of the Amicus podcast. In the full episode, Joyce and Dahlia break down which cases to look out for in the Court's upcoming term, how politics and culture wars are factoring into the Court's decisions, and the dynamics between the nine justices. Preet will be back next week.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Hank Green, the cofounder of Complexly. I'm back for my second guest hosting spot here on Decoder while Nilay is out on parental leave. Today, I'm talking with Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi, who runs a major marketing and ad agency. You might remember Amy; Nilay interviewed her for Decoder live at an event in New York City almost a year ago. But Nilay, who runs what might be the last website on Earth, has a very different perspective on the world of digital marketing than I do. So as a career YouTuber, I had a lot of questions for someone in a position like Amy's.  Links:  Digitas unveils new generative AI platform, Digitas AI |  Digitas Amy Lanzi on steering Digitas through the demands of modern marketing | Sightly Introducing Reddit Community Intelligence | Reddit Digitas North America announces Amy Lanzi as CEO | Digitas Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we're coming at you straight from Apple Park! Marques, Andrew, and David sit down to talk about everything new from Apple including the new iPhone 17, 17 Pro, and Air. They also talk about the new AirPods Pro 3 and all of the new Apple Watches as well. It's a fun one! Links: MKBHD - iPhone 17 Impressions Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Programming Note: This conversation was recorded on Monday, 9/8, before the horrific and tragic killing of political activist Charlie Kirk. Gun violence is among the leading causes of death for children and teens in the United States. News of yet another mass shooting breaks almost weekly. And still, gun reform remains fiercely partisan. It is indeed a cultural flashpoint in a country that feels as divided and polarized as ever. This week, Preet is joined by John Feinblatt, the President of Everytown for Gun Safety, and Adam Winkler, a constitutional scholar and expert on the Second Amendment to discuss whether gun culture is changing for the better, whether legal reforms are making any progress, and whether the private sector can step up in the face of political deadlock.  Then, Preet answers your questions about Ghislaine Maxwell's transfer to a minimum-security prison, and asks for your thoughts on Newsom's posting. In the bonus for Insiders, Preet, John, and Adam discuss U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro's decision not to federally prosecute individuals for carrying rifles or shotguns in D.C. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Alex Heath. For my final episode as your Thursday episode guest host, I recently sat down with Bret Taylor, the CEO of AI startup Sierra and the chairman of OpenAI, for a live event in San Francisco hosted by Alix Partners.  Bret has worked at Google, Facebook, and Salesforce in high-level, executive roles, and he led Twitter's board during Elon Musk's takeover, so very few people have seen the tech industry up close like Bret has. Now, he's all in on AI. We covered a lot of ground in this conversation, and I hope you find Bret's perspective as fascinating as I did. Links: Ex-Salesforce co-CEO Bret Taylor's Sierra is the latest $10 billion AI startup | CNBC I talked to Sam Altman about the GPT-5 launch fiasco | Verge Sam Altman says ‘yes,' AI is in a bubble | Verge MIT study on AI profits rattles tech investors | Axios GPT-5 Pro can prove new, interesting mathematics | Sebastien Bubeck AI chatbots are ready to talk to customers. Sort of. | WSJ How is AI different than other technology waves? | Acquired Podcast Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the Supreme Court ruling that loosened restrictions on immigration raids in Los Angeles, allowing ICE to make stops based on factors like ethnicity. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down: – A federal judge's ruling that President Trump's deployment of the National Guard to Los Angeles was unlawful;  – A federal appeals court ruling, which, for the first time, struck down Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members; and – The Eleventh Circuit's decision to block a district court order to shut down the so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” detention center in the Florida Everglades. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel.This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Hacks are back — and better than ever. To kick off our brand-new partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network, Axe and Murphy are joined by none other than political heavyweight Jen Psaki — former White House press secretary, MSNBC host, and one of the most incisive voices in politics today.Together, the Hacks tackle the week's political circus: the “Department of War”, Trump's troop talk in Chicago, redistricting battles, the Epstein birthday book, New York's mayoral drama, RFK Jr.'s latest — and plenty more! Hacks on Tap is proudly a part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Hank Green, cofounder of Complexly. You might remember last year when I turned the tables on Nilay and interviewed him on his own show. That was a ton of fun, and it was so much fun that they've brought me back again. This time, I'm stepping in for Nilay to host the next few Decoder episodes while he's out on parental leave.  Today, I'm talking with a very special guest: Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy. Sal was actually Nilay's second-ever guest on Decoder, back in 2020. And well, a whole lot has changed since then. So I wanted to have Sal back on to ask what it's like running Khan Academy today, in the aftermath of the pandemic. But also how online learning is about to change, in really dramatic ways, due to artificial intelligence. Links:  Sal Khan on A.I.'s promise and its risks | NBC News (YouTube) The best-case scenario for AI in schools | BBC News Meet Khanmigo: the student tutor AI being tested in schools | 60 Minutes| 60 Minutes Remote learning is here to stay — can we make it better? | Decoder Hank Green makes Nilay Patel explain why websites have a future | Decoder In classrooms, teachers put AI tutoring bots to the test | NYT Elite colleges have found a new virtue for applicants to fake | NYT Everyone Is cheating their way through college | New York Magazine Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Everyone is finally all back together in the same room which can only mean one thing: Techtember has begun! There was a lot to get into this week. Marques, Andrew, and David give some FinalThoughts.copy.final2.jpg thoughts on the Pixel 10 before going over everything we expect to see at the Apple event next week. Then they talk about Samsung Unpacked along with a few shorter news stories including YouTube cracking down on family plans. Enjoy! Links: 9to5google - Pixel 9 vs Pixel 10 Verge - Plastic Apple Watch SE MacRumors - Orange iPhone 17 GSM Arena - Sony Debacle Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What comes first, a prosperous economy or stable democratic institutions? Nobel Prize-winning economist and MIT professor Daron Acemoglu joins Preet to discuss the economic stakes of shifting institutional norms in the U.S. He weighs in on President Trump's decision to fire key personnel at the Federal Reserve and Bureau of Labor Statistics, as well as the announcement that the government will take a roughly 10% equity stake in Intel.  Then, Preet answers a question about the latest developments in the Kilmar Abrego Garcia deportation case and discusses Governor Gavin Newsom's recent social media posts. In the bonus for Insiders, Acemoglu discusses what people often overlook when comparing the Industrial Revolution to the AI revolution.  Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Despite being one of the most valuable companies in the world, OpenAI is still technically a nonprofit. That's what set the stage for the dramatic board coup in 2023 that briefly ousted Sam Altman as CEO. And now, OpenAI is trying to shake this nonprofit structure so it can raise even more money and, eventually, go public. There's a lot at stake here, and not just for OpenAI. Links:  OpenAI abandons plans to become a for-profit company | Verge Why California's AG must continue investigation into OpenAI | CalMatters An open letter to OpenAI | EyesOnOpenAI OpenAI eyes $50B valuation in potential employee share sale | Reuters OpenAI thinks its critics are funded by billionaires | San Francisco Standard Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss President Donald Trump's threats that he will deploy National Guard troops to major cities. Trump has already done this in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles and has floated doing the same in Chicago, New York, and Baltimore.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down Trump's efforts to expand the National Guard's role in D.C. law enforcement, and two separate law enforcement assault cases out of D.C., in which federal prosecutors failed to secure indictments before a grand jury. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about everything from the new Hasselblad camera to the upcoming Apple event! First, they talk cameras for a bit before going over some final thoughts of the Pixel 10 phones. Then they try to figure out what the Apple event invite could be telling us before finally talking about Hollow Knight Silk Song for a bit. It's a fun one! Links: Verge - Hasselblad X2D II B&H - Ricoh GR IV Team Cherry - Hollow Knight Silk Song trailer Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, and welcome to Decoder! This is Senior Producer Nick Statt. We're on a small break for the end of summer, and, sadly, Nilay will still be out a little while longer when we come back. But we have an excellent slate of guest host episodes starting up next month, so stay tuned for those.  In the meantime, we wanted to bring back one of our favorite Decoder interviews from earlier this year. It's with Bookshop CEO Andy Hunter, who back in January launched a pretty bold ebook initiative to take on Amazon and Kindle. It's been about seven months, but Bookshop has seen big results, including more than $1 million in ebook sales. So we thought it was a good time to revisit our conversation with Andy.   Links:  Bookshop.org reports 65% growth, e-books add $1 Million in sales | Publishers Weekly Bookshop CEO Andy Hunter's crusade to save books from Amazon | Decoder Bookshop.org is launching an ebook store to take on Amazon | Verge Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's time for trivia extravaganza! Marques, Andrew, and David will battle it out to see who knows the most random facts about tech. The points got a little out of hand and resulted in the highest scoring game ever! Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! Decoder senior producer Kate Cox here. I'm afraid I'm still not Nilay, but I hope you've been enjoying our series of guest hosts this summer while he's out on parental leave. We have a few more really great guest episodes coming up, before Nilay returns to the host chair later this fall, so stay tuned. The production team is taking our own break this week, so while we're off we're excited to share this episode of The Gray Area with you. Students all over the country — including my own kids, thank goodness — are back in school right around now, and so we thought it would be a perfect time to revisit host Sean Illing talking with journalist James Walsh about how AI tools like ChatGPT have kicked off a new cheating arms race that's proving extremely disruptive to college education.  There are a lot of big Decoder ideas — and problems — wrapped up in all this. Okay, The Gray Area, with Sean Illing. Enjoy.  Links: If AI can do your classwork, why go to college? | The Gray Area Everyone Is cheating their way through college | New York Magazine How to get students to stop using AI | Verge I used the ‘cheat on everything' AI tool and it didn't help me cheat on anything | Verge Inside the frat-bro startup that wants you to ‘cheat on everything' | SF Standard A new headache for honest students: proving they didn't use AI | NYT Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week's episode the crew discusses the most recent Google Event. Between a bunch of great phones, a new watch, and an uncomfortable amount of celebrities, there's a lot to talk about. We also take a quick look at Meta's new glasses, Apple's can do blood oxygen again, and someone turned their Apple watch into a phone! Links: Made by Google Event Meta Hypernova Glasses Apple Watch Ultra Case Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trump's recent meetings with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy have raised urgent questions about America's role in global affairs and the future of the war in Ukraine. Atlantic staff writer and national security expert Tom Nichols joins Preet to break down what's at stake: the fragility of Western unity, the history behind Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and whether Trump can—or even wants to—deliver peace. They also discuss Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom's recent social media tactics and what effective opposition to Trump looks like. Then, Preet answers your questions about Ghislaine Maxwell's transfer to a minimum-security prison, and asks for your thoughts on Newsom's posting. In the bonus for Insiders, Nichols discusses the redistricting battles happening around the country. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Alex Heath, your Thursday episode guest host and deputy editor at The Verge. One of the biggest topics in AI these days is agents — the idea that AI is going to move from chatbots to reliably completing tasks for us in the real world. But the problem with agents is that they really aren't all that reliable right now. There's a lot of work happening in the AI industry to try and fix that, and that brings me to my guest today: David Luan, the head of Amazon's AGI research lab, a cofounder of Adept, and a former VP of engineering at OpenAI. David and I discussed the release of GPT-5, what Amazon wants with agents, and where he thinks the AI race is headed next. Read the full transcript on The Verge. Links:  The Platonic Representation Hypothesis | Phillip Isola Amazon plays catch-up with new Nova models to generate voices, video | Verge Amazon's new AI agent is designed to do your shopping | Verge Microsoft is racing to build an AI ‘agent factory' | Verge OpenAI's new ChatGPT Agent can control an entire computer | Verge 24 hours with Alexa Plus: we cooked, we chatted, and it kinda lied to me | Verge Why AI researchers are getting paid like NBA All-Stars | Decoder OpenAI's Windsurf deal is off — and Windsurf's CEO is going to Google | Verge This is Big Tech's playbook for swallowing the AI industry | Command Line Amazon hires founders away from AI startup Adept | TechCrunch Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the agreement between the D.C. government and the Trump administration, facilitated by a federal judge, preserving the local government's authority over its police force. The resolution stemmed from the D.C. Attorney General's lawsuit challenging Trump's takeover of the District's police and his deployment of the National Guard. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – A federal appellate court's decision allowing the Trump administration to continue to withhold billions of dollars in foreign aid; and – The voter fraud charges brought against a group of Latino Democratic political leaders in Texas for so-called “ballot harvesting.” CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel.This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Obsidian is a note-taking and productivity app that occupies the same "second brain" space as competitors like Notion — but in a lot of ways, it's also startlingly different. Obsidian's files are Markdown-based, stored locally on your own devices, and completely free to use. Steph Ango, the CEO, is also different in a lot of ways: He's not an Obsidian founder, but instead came to the role from being basically a member of the fan development community. His take on software, productivity, and business is refreshingly old-fashioned in a lot of good ways, while he's also leading a very 21st century startup.  Read the full transcript on The Verge. Links:  I'm joining Obsidian as CEO | Obsidian Blog About Obsidian (Manifesto) | Obsidian Narvar acquires Lumi (2021) | Narvar  After 15 years whipping the llama's ass, Winamp shuts down | TechCrunch Notion's Ivan Zhao wants you to demand better from your tools | Decoder Book Review: “What I Talk About When I Talk About Running” | National Geographic Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt; our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Andrew and David take over the show once more while Marques is out representing Team USA! First, they talk about the rumor that Apple might make a cheaper Mac laptop before getting into Google's upcoming Duolingo competitor. Then they talk about the hectic Chat GPT 5.0 release, Elon trying to sue Apple, and Perplexity trying to buy Chrome. There was a lot that happened. Enjoy! Links: Watch Marques play Ultimate Digitimes - $599 Macbook rumor Android Authority - Google Translate APK teardown Xiaomanyc - Surprised ChatGPT by speaking computer language Techcrunch - Cassette app Verge - OpenAI charts and graphs Reuters - Perplexity offers to buy Chrome Verge - Ford $30k EV platform WVFRM Fantasy Premiere League Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Should the law be more forgiving? Martha Minow, former dean of Harvard Law School, joins Preet for a wide-ranging conversation on what justice means today—inside and beyond the courtroom. They discuss the erosion of public trust in the legal system, the dangers of outcome-driven thinking, and why Minow believes we can't “achieve” justice. Plus, they explore how self-interest in the Trump era has eroded our institutions, from the Supreme Court to Congress. In the bonus for Insiders, Minow explores whether judges should be more outspoken amid the rise of political attacks, death threats, and a breakdown in civic education. Then, Preet answers listener questions. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Alex Heath, your Thursday episode guest host and deputy editor at The Verge. Today, I'm talking to a very special guest: Nick Turley, OpenAI's head of ChatGPT.  While Sam Altman is definitely the public face of OpenAI, Nick has been leading ChatGPT's development since the very beginning, and it's now the fastest-growing software product of all time with more than 700 million weekly users. So, Nick and I talk about the backlash against OpenAI's removal of its GPT-4o model, the future of ChatGPT itself, solving hallucinations, and why he thinks it eventually won't look like a chatbot at all.  Links:  ChatGPT won't remove old models without warning after GPT-5 backlash | Verge ChatGPT is bringing back 4o as an option because people missed it | Verge GPT-5 is being released to all ChatGPT users | Verge The 6 biggest changes coming to ChatGPT | Verge ChatGPT has 20 million paying subscribers | Verge Elon Musk says he's suing Apple for rigging App Store rankings | Verge OpenAI's ChatGPT to hit 700 million weekly users | CNBC Chatbots can go into a delusional spiral. Here's how it happens | NYT ChatGPT gave instructions for murder, self-mutilation, and devil worship | The Atlantic ‘I feel like I'm going crazy': ChatGPT fuels delusional spirals | WSJ Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Does President Trump have the legal authority to put Washington, D.C.'s police under federal control? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss Trump's executive order declaring a crime emergency in DC to seize control of the city's police and deploy the National Guard. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – A federal judge's decision to reject the Trump administration's request to unseal grand jury testimony from the Ghislaine Maxwell case; and – The redistricting debate in Texas, as Democratic lawmakers have fled the state to block Republicans from redrawing the state's congressional map to further strengthen GOP representation. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While Marques is away representing Team USA in China, Andrew and David hold down the fort and discuss all the tech news of the week! Topics range from a Microsoft x Croc collab to new Instagram rules around who is allowed to go live on. They close it out with show-and-tell, discussing new gadgets that they've really been enjoying lately. It's a fun one! Links: Verge - Microsoft XP x Crocs OpenAI - GPT-OSS Google - Pixel 10 AI Ad TechCrunch - Instagram requires 1000 followers to go live A New Social Gadgets we're loving: ⁠Peak Design Pro Tripod (Kickstarter)⁠ ⁠seenda Mouse⁠ MOVAS Tripod Stand (Not Boring) Camera app Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Kennedy III is trying to rebuild Democratic power from the ground up—in places where the party has long been written off. The former Massachusetts congressman joins Preet to talk about his work with the Groundwork Project, an organization supporting grassroots organizing in rural America. They discuss what it means to do politics outside the spotlight, his disagreements with his uncle RFK Jr., and how Kennedy is navigating legacy, loss, and the long game of building trust where Democrats have stopped showing up. Then, Preet answers questions about posthumous criminal charges, whether a pardon can be revoked, and how we decide what to cover on this show.  In the bonus for Insiders, Kennedy discusses his work in Northern Ireland, and what we can learn from the country's violent past. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does it mean to be undocumented? And is it always illegal? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss whether violations of immigration law are treated as civil offenses or criminal acts under U.S. law. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down a new bill in Congress that would ban lawmakers from trading stocks. Plus, why president Donald Trump is exempt from the bill. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Donald Trump and the Justice Department are at the center of bipartisan furor over the case files of Jeffrey Epstein and the administration's about-face on publicly releasing them. Preet is joined by former Westchester District Attorney Mimi Rocah, former Assistant US Attorney Elie Honig, and lawyer and former FBI agent Asha Rangappa to discuss what's potentially unfolding behind closed doors at the Justice Department. They also break down the ongoing legal proceedings involving Epstein's co-conspirator Ghislane Maxwell, who just met with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. In the bonus for Insiders, they discuss whether Congress could release the Epstein files. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE's Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Deputy AG Todd Blanche met with Jeffrey Epstein's convicted co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. How unusual is that and where does this development fit within the ongoing Epstein files saga?  This is an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, where Preet Bharara is joined by Lawfare editor-in-chief Ben Wittes, while Joyce is out.  In the full episode, Preet and Ben break down: – The battle over unsealing grand jury testimony in the Epstein case; – The firing of Maurene Comey, an SDNY prosecutor and daughter of former FBI director Jim Comey; – Whether there's any merit to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's allegations that President Obama committed “treason” in the 2016 Russian election interference matter; and – The Department of Defense's findings that the information shared erroneously by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth via Signal was indeed classified. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices