Podcast appearances and mentions of Joyce Vance

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the Supreme Court ruling that loosened restrictions on immigration raids in Los Angeles, allowing ICE to make stops based on factors like ethnicity. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down: – A federal judge's ruling that President Trump's deployment of the National Guard to Los Angeles was unlawful;  – A federal appeals court ruling, which, for the first time, struck down Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members; and – The Eleventh Circuit's decision to block a district court order to shut down the so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” detention center in the Florida Everglades. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel.This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss President Donald Trump's threats that he will deploy National Guard troops to major cities. Trump has already done this in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles and has floated doing the same in Chicago, New York, and Baltimore.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down Trump's efforts to expand the National Guard's role in D.C. law enforcement, and two separate law enforcement assault cases out of D.C., in which federal prosecutors failed to secure indictments before a grand jury. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

August 31, 2025; 8am: Donald Trump says some people might like a dictator and declares he has the right to do anything he wants. From saying he would be comfortable if both the former FBI director and CIA director were arrested to ramping up his war on Democratic-led cities, Trump has sparked concerns about authoritarianism. Executive chair of the Democracy Defenders Fund and former White House ethics czar under President Obama, Norm Eisen, former federal prosecutor and MSNBC legal analyst, Joyce Vance, and former DHS Chief of Staff during Donald Trump's first term, Miles Taylor join “The Weekend” to discuss.For more, follow us on social media:Bluesky: @theweekendmsnbc.bsky.socialInstagram: @theweekendmsnbcTikTok: @theweekendmsnbcTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts.

A high stakes legal battle begins as Fed Governor Lisa Cook sues President Trump, as she fights to keep her job.  Then, ousted CDC Director Susan Monarez refuses to step aside. Meanwhile, the White House stands by their decision to oust her as they name her replacement. Plus, why more companies and consumers are feeling the squeeze from tariffs, while the market booms. Peter Baker, Natasha Korecki, Amy McGrath, Bill Cohan, Justin Wolfers, David Jolly, and Joyce Vance join The 11th Hour this Thursday night.

President Trump moves to expand the military's role in law enforcement around the nation, and suggests Chicago could be next. Then, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker vows to resist Trump's plans for troops on the ground, calling them “illegal, unconstitutional, and unamerican.” Plus, Trump says he's removing Federal Reserve board member Lisa Cook. In his dismissal letter he writes, “there is sufficient reason to believe you may have made false statements on one or more mortgage agreements.” Rohit Chopra, Luke Broadwater, Susan Glasser, David Drucker, Natasha Sarin, Brendan Greeley, Joyce Vance, and Mike Isaac join The 11th Hour this Monday night.

Monday, August 25th, 2025Today, the DOJ has released the audio and transcripts of the witness tampering meeting between Todd Blanche and Ghislaine Maxwell; the government has threatened to deport Kilmar Abrego to Uganda if he doesn't plead guilty to the two charges against him; John Bolton's house has been raided in search of classified emails sent on a private server; a federal judge orders the dismantling of the Florida concentration camp; Fort Bliss - where the Japanese were interned during WWII - is operating as an internment camp again; the White House lists Smithsonian exhibits it wants to erase from history; the Justice Department's release of the Epstein files to House Oversight is a joke; the Pentagon plans to deploy the military to Chicago; Homeland Security is violating the law by refusing to retain text messages; Illinois announces a first of its kind legal hotline for the LGBTQ community; residents keep repainting the Pulse nightclub rainbow sidewalk after the city keeps removing it; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.Thank You, HomeChefFor a limited time, get  50% off and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life!  HomeChef.com/DAILYBEANS.  Must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert.Thank You, Naked Winesnakedwines.com/DAILYBEANS and use code DAILYBEANS for both the code and password.Guest: Joyce VancePreorder Giving Up Is Unforgivable by Joyce Vance - 10/21/2025 Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance | Substack#SistersInLaw - Podcast - Apple Podcasts, The Insider Podcast - CAFE@joycewhitevance.bsky.social on BlueskyLive with Allison Gill and Joyce Vance | Joyce Vance SubstackLive with Allison Gill and Joyce Vance | MuellerSheWrote SubstackYou Can Nominate Dana Goldberg for this year's Out100!2025 Out100 Readers' ChoiceNational Security Counselors - DonateNPHC & FBF stand united w/ CDC, NIH, & other HHS agencies in formal dissent of HHS Sec Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. & his political rhetoric that led to the Aug 8 attack on CDC & his response. Help ensure safety of public servants. Hold RFK Jr accountable by signing the letter: savehhs.orghttps://bsky.app/profile/firedbutfighting.bsky.social/post/3lwtfq56klc2gStoriesJustice Dept. Sent Congress Epstein Files That Were Already Public, Democrats Say | The New York TimesNational Security Counselors - DonatePentagon plans military deployment in Chicago as Trump eyes crackdown | The Washington PostHomeland Security Tells Watchdog It Hasn't Kept Text Message Data Since April | The New York TimesJapanese American groups blast use of Fort Bliss, former internment camp site, as ICE detention center | NBC NewsWhite House Lists Smithsonian Exhibits It Finds Objectionable | The New York TimesFlorida ordered to dismantle Alligator Alcatraz over environmental impact | The Washington PostPritzker announces 'first of its kind' legal hotline for LGBTQ+ Illinoisans | Chicago Sun-TimesRainbow crosswalk repainted outside Pulse; Florida troopers seen standing by | News 6 Orlando Good Trouble IRS asks for public input on free tax filing options to inform congressional report | Internal Revenue Service From The Good NewsApplication of the Fair Labor Standards Act to Domestic Service - Comments open until September 2Joy SaxtonThe Art of Arpilleras under Augusto Pinochet's Authoritarian Rule – Retrospect JournalReminder - you can see the pod pics if you become a Patron. The good news pics are at the bottom of the show notes of each Patreon episode! That's just one of the perks of subscribing! patreon.com/muellershewrote Our Donation LinksNational Security Counselors - DonateMSW Media, Blue Wave California Victory Fund | ActBlueWhistleblowerAid.org/beansFederal workers - feel free to email AG at fedoath@pm.me and let me know what you're going to do, or just vent. I'm always here to listen. Find Upcoming Actions 50501 Movement, No Kings.org, Indivisible.orgDr. Allison Gill - Substack, BlueSky , TikTok, IG, TwitterDana Goldberg - BlueSky, Twitter, IG, facebook, danagoldberg.comCheck out more from MSW Media - Shows - MSW Media, Cleanup On Aisle 45 pod, The Breakdown | SubstackShare your Good News or Good TroubleMSW Good News and Good TroubleHave some good news; a confession; or a correction to share?Good News & Confessions - The Daily Beanshttps://www.dailybeanspod.com/confessional/ Listener Survey:http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=shortFollow the Podcast on Apple:The Daily Beans on Apple PodcastsWant to support the show and get it ad-free and early?The Daily Beans | SupercastThe Daily Beans & Mueller, She Wrote | PatreonThe Daily Beans | Apple Podcasts

It's time to right the ship of democracy! Zachary and Emma sit down with powerhouse legal expert Joyce Vance, former U.S. Attorney and author of the popular Civil Discourse Substack and upcoming book Giving Up Is Unforgivable: A Manual for Keeping a Democracy. Pulling on her 25 years of experience at the DOJ, Joyce pulls back the curtain on how federal courts have confronted Donald Trump's unprecedented use of power, the evolving responsibilities of the Supreme Court, and why the right to vote is democracy's lifeline. What Could Go Right? is produced by The Progress Network and The Podglomerate.For transcripts, to join the newsletter, and for more information, visit: theprogressnetwork.orgWatch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/theprogressnetwork⁠⁠⁠And follow us on X, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok: @progressntwrk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the agreement between the D.C. government and the Trump administration, facilitated by a federal judge, preserving the local government's authority over its police force. The resolution stemmed from the D.C. Attorney General's lawsuit challenging Trump's takeover of the District's police and his deployment of the National Guard. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – A federal appellate court's decision allowing the Trump administration to continue to withhold billions of dollars in foreign aid; and – The voter fraud charges brought against a group of Latino Democratic political leaders in Texas for so-called “ballot harvesting.” CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel.This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With President Trump's crackdown intensifying in Washington, D.C., he lashed out angrily at the media for describing him as a “dictator.” In this same rant, he did not reassure D.C. residents and exaggerated wildly about crime there, suggesting people should thank him for his efforts. As observers noted, Trump clearly meant people should mute criticism of his militarization of cities simply because he claims they're needed to reassert control. We talked to legal commentator Joyce Vance, who writes well about this on her Civil Discourse Substack and is author of the new book Giving Up Is Unforgiveable. She explains how Trump's use of manufactured pretexts is worsening on many fronts, why this itself is an alarming threat to self rule, and how the opposition should respond, noting it's imperative for disengaged voters to “wake up.” This episode was recorded before Trump and D.C. reached an agreement limiting his control over the D.C. police, but the specifics remain unresolved, his use of the National Guard continues, and his broader threat to other cities has darkened.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With President Trump's crackdown intensifying in Washington, D.C., he lashed out angrily at the media for describing him as a “dictator.” In this same rant, he did not reassure D.C. residents and exaggerated wildly about crime there, suggesting people should thank him for his efforts. As observers noted, Trump clearly meant people should mute criticism of his militarization of cities simply because he claims they're needed to reassert control. We talked to legal commentator Joyce Vance, who writes well about this on her Civil Discourse Substack and is author of the new book Giving Up Is Unforgiveable. She explains how Trump's use of manufactured pretexts is worsening on many fronts, why this itself is an alarming threat to self rule, and how the opposition should respond, noting it's imperative for disengaged voters to “wake up.” This episode was recorded before Trump and D.C. reached an agreement limiting his control over the D.C. police, but the specifics remain unresolved, his use of the National Guard continues, and his broader threat to other cities has darkened. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With President Trump's crackdown intensifying in Washington, D.C., he lashed out angrily at the media for describing him as a “dictator.” In this same rant, he did not reassure D.C. residents and exaggerated wildly about crime there, suggesting people should thank him for his efforts. As observers noted, Trump clearly meant people should mute criticism of his militarization of cities simply because he claims they're needed to reassert control. We talked to legal commentator Joyce Vance, who writes well about this on her Civil Discourse Substack and is author of the new book Giving Up Is Unforgiveable. She explains how Trump's use of manufactured pretexts is worsening on many fronts, why this itself is an alarming threat to self rule, and how the opposition should respond, noting it's imperative for disengaged voters to “wake up.” This episode was recorded before Trump and D.C. reached an agreement limiting his control over the D.C. police, but the specifics remain unresolved, his use of the National Guard continues, and his broader threat to other cities has darkened.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does President Trump have the legal authority to put Washington, D.C.'s police under federal control? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss Trump's executive order declaring a crime emergency in DC to seize control of the city's police and deploy the National Guard. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – A federal judge's decision to reject the Trump administration's request to unseal grand jury testimony from the Ghislaine Maxwell case; and – The redistricting debate in Texas, as Democratic lawmakers have fled the state to block Republicans from redrawing the state's congressional map to further strengthen GOP representation. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

August 12, 2025; 6pm: MSNBC's Jason Johnson reports on a stunning new report from The Washington Post about Pentagon plans to create a "domestic civil disturbance quick reaction force" in cities facing protests and other unrest. Plus, critics are warning President Trump is crossing a red line as he taps a MAGA loyalist for the top job at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Justin Wolfers, Rick Wilson, Joyce Vance and others join "The Beat" to break it all down. 

Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to examine the legality of the proposed effort by Governor Abbott to gerrymander Texas, how the Democrats in the Texas legislature are fighting back, and where things might go from here.  Then, the #Sisters chastise A.G. Bondi for summoning a grand jury to target Trump's political opponents, and weigh whether she has lived up to the precedent and responsibilities of her office.  They also explain the legal issues that could shut down ‘Alligator Alcatraz' by looking at the potential civil rights and environmental violations taking place there. Get the brand new ReSIStance T-Shirt & Mini Tote at politicon.com/merch #SistersInLaw Spin-off Shows Are Here! Check out Jill's New Politicon YouTube Show: Just The Facts Check out Kim's New Politicon Podcast: Justice By Design Books & Upcoming Tour Events From The #Sisters Joyce's new book, Giving Up Is Unforgivable, is now available for pre-order!  Not only that, for a limited time, you have the exclusive opportunity to order a signed copy here! Get Barb's book, Attack From Within, now in paperback! And, don't miss her ongoing tour!  You can buy tickets at barbaramcquade.com for all upcoming shows, the Aspen Institute Link for her appearance there, or for her talk in Denver at this EventBrite link. Add the #Sisters & your other favorite Politicon podcast hosts on Bluesky Get your #SistersInLaw MERCH at politicon.com/merch WEBSITE & TRANSCRIPT Email: SISTERSINLAW@POLITICON.COM or Thread to @sistersInLaw.podcast Get text updates from #SistersInLaw and Politicon.  Get More From The #Sisters: From Joyce- Five Questions with Dara Kass, Emergency Room Physician and Women's Rights Activist Support This Week's Sponsors Osea Malibu: Get 10% off your order of clean beauty products from OSEA Malibu, samples, and free shipping on orders over $50 when you go to oseamalibu.com and use promo code: SISTERS10 HoneyLove: Save 20% Off HoneyLove by going to honeylove.com/SISTERS! #honeylovepod Calm: Perfect your meditation practice and get better sleep with 40% off a premium subscription when you go to calm.com/sisters HexClad: Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at hexclad.com/SISTERS! #hexcladpartner Get More From The #SistersInLaw Joyce Vance: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack | Author of “Giving Up Is Unforgiveable” Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | The Gavel Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC | Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America

Trump celebrates his sweeping new tariffs that took effect last night, which are the highest in nearly a century. Then, top White House officials held a meeting to discuss their strategy for handling the Epstein case, as the Justice Department faces a deadline tomorrow to decide whether to ask a judge to release the grand jury transcripts. Plus, a federal judge orders a two-week pause in the construction of Florida's immigration detention center. Peter Baker, Dave Weigel, Mark Leibovich, John Harwood, Max Chafkin, Joyce Vance, and John Meacham join The 11th Hour this Thursday. 

What does it mean to be undocumented? And is it always illegal? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss whether violations of immigration law are treated as civil offenses or criminal acts under U.S. law. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down a new bill in Congress that would ban lawmakers from trading stocks. Plus, why president Donald Trump is exempt from the bill. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

New reporting breaks on Jeffrey Epstein's ties with Trump as NBC News reports that the White House is choosing silence as their best strategy amid the backlash. Then, top DOJ lawyer Todd Blanche meets with Epstein associate and convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, and schedules a second visit with her tomorrow. Plus, Trump gets fact-checked live by Fed Chair Powell during the president's visit to the Fed's headquarters. Peter Baker, Amna Nawaz, Sam Stein, Joyce Vance, Steve Liesman, John Harwood, and Matt Goldstein join The 11th Hour this Thursday.

MSNBC's Antonia Hylton joins "The Beat" on Thursday, July 24, and reports on the political crisis surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and its impact on President Trump and the administration. Hylton also covers protestors taking to the streets in Texas over state efforts for redistricting, and the unlikely source speaking out against those bending the knee to Donald Trump. Texas State Representative James Talarico, Michelle Norris, Barry Levine, Congresswoman Summer Lee, Joyce Vance and Norm Eisen join.

In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down President Donald Trump's push to unseal grand jury testimony from the Jeffrey Epstein case following weeks of backlash from Trump's supporters. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss Trump's defamation lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal over a report on Epstein's birthday letters, including one reportedly bearing Trump's signature, and the firing of SDNY prosecutor Maurene Comey, who handled the Epstein prosecution. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Can disinformation really take down a democracy from the inside? This week's guest, Barbara McQuade, thinks so — and she's here to show us exactly how it's happening and what we can do about it.Barbara is a former U.S. Attorney, a law professor, an MSNBC legal analyst and the author of Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America, now out in paperback.We begin with breaking news that could directly affect our political landscape. A big chunk of the MAGA faithful are suddenly side-eyeing Trump over his failure to drop the long-promised Epstein file (does the public have a right to see it? Barbara has thoughts). She breaks down how our American system relies on the good faith of three branches — and what happens when any one of them stops playing by the rules.Barbara explains the Squid Strategy: imagine a squid firing ink at a predator to obfuscate and slip away: that's Trump making wild statements to change the subject when the heat is on. We talk about the liar's dividend, that neat trick where so much fake news is swirling that important facts get waved away.She pulls back the curtain on how Trump built the coalition that resulted in the Big Harmful Bill. It consists of: a working-class MAGA base, the evangelical right, and billionaires. Trump does the bidding of big business while kissing up to Christian Extremists and feeding his base conspiracy theories that keep them eating their rage right out of his hand.Barbara does find hope in history: other countries have seen strongmen rise and fall when the promises ran dry and the citizens remained vigilant. She gives us her best advice for cracking Trump's hold on friends and family (it involves empathetic listening, not doomscrolling).We also get into Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act — mend it, don't end it — and why unregulated social media is the Wild West. We talk spon-con, paywalls, knowledge gaps, and how your news feed might be failing you.A cautionary tale, a civics lesson, and a pep talk all rolled into one, strap in, there's still time to fight the ink cloud!In recommendations--Weezy: The series Outrageous on BritboxFritz: Apple TV+ Documentary, Bono: Stories of Surrender Path Points of Interest:Barbara McQuadeAttack From Within by Barbara McQuadeSisters-In-Law Podcastwith Barbara McQuade, Jill Wine Banks, Joyce Vance and Kimberly Atkins StohrBarbara McQuade on WikipediaBarbara McQuade on InstagramBarbara McQuade on XOutrageous on BritboxBono: Stories of Surrender on Apple TV+

On this week's Insider episode, Joyce Vance is joined by CAFE contributor Nita Farahany, while Preet is out. Farahany is a professor of law and philosophy at Duke Law School and a leading expert on the ethical and legal implications of emerging technologies. In an excerpt from the episode, they discuss the U.S.'s failure to put in place proper safeguards for AI, and what Congress must do to keep pace with the growing risks.  In the full episode, Joyce and Nita explore the meaning of “cognitive liberty,” President Trump's AI plans, and the ways in which AI is impacting courtrooms and health care.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What qualifies as an invasion at the U.S.-Mexico Border? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down a federal judge's ruling blocking President Trump's effort to declare an “invasion” at the border to limit asylum access in the U.S.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss two recent Supreme Court decisions. The first case affords parents of elementary school children a religious exemption to school lessons on LGBTQ+ storybooks. And the second case cleared the way for the Trump administration to deport a group of immigrants to South Sudan, even though they have no connection to the country. Plus, Attorney General Pam Bondi is facing blowback following DOJ's disclosure that Jeffrey Epstein didn't have a “client list” and wasn't murdered. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to look at the challenges posed by political turmoil, and expose the horrific allegations of torture against deportees.  Then, the #Sisters discuss the 8th Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishment, how it applies to those being targeted by ICE, and the importance of free speech in the face of chilling actions by the Trump government.  They also look at recent politically based lawsuits targeting the administration's enemies, the future of immigration after the passage of the recent budget bill, and the merits of possible denaturalization efforts. Get the ReSIStance T-Shirt & Mini Tote at politicon.com/merch #SistersInLaw Spin-off Shows Are Here! Check out Kim's New Politicon Podcast: Justice By Design Check out Jill's New Politicon YouTube Show: Just The Facts Add the #Sisters & your other favorite Politicon podcast hosts on Bluesky Get Barb's book, Attack From Within, coming out in paperback! Joyce's new book, Giving Up Is Unforgivable, is now available for pre-order!  Get your #SistersInLaw MERCH at politicon.com/merch WEBSITE & TRANSCRIPT Email: SISTERSINLAW@POLITICON.COM or Thread to @sistersInLaw.podcast Get text updates from #SistersInLaw and Politicon.  From The #Sisters Joyce - Taking Away Your Citizenship Kim- Who Is An American?  Trump Gets To Decide. Support This Week's Sponsors DeleteMe: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you text SISTERS to 64000. Message and data rates apply. Pacagen: For an extra 25% off your order and a special gift, head to Pacagen.com/SISTERS Wild Alaskan Company: Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to: wildalaskan.com/SISTERS  Thrive Causemetics: Get the Liquid Lash Extensions Mascara and a mini-sized Brilliant Eye Brightener at a special set price with free shipping  available when you go to thrivecausemetics.com/sisters Get More From The #SistersInLaw Joyce Vance: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack | Author of “Giving Up Is Unforgiveable” Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | The Gavel Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC | Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America

In another 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court's conservative majority limited district court judges' power to issue nationwide injunctions. In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the decision and its broad implications.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss the Justice Department's lawsuit against all 15 federal district court judges in Maryland over an order pausing deportations in the state. Plus, a whistleblower complaint accusing one of Trump's top DOJ officials—and now a judicial nominee—Emil Bove, of disregarding court orders. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yesterday, President Joe Biden and former Vice President Kamala Harris attended the funeral of Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, following a targeted political attack. Political violence has been steadily rising across the country and party lines, with several incidents occurring in just the past two weeks. Joyce Vance and George Conway join The Weekend to examine this troubling pattern and explore what—and who—is missing from the national conversation. Later, Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear weighs in on how proposed Medicaid cuts in the GOP's "Big Beautiful Bill," backed by President Trump, could affect hospitals across his state.

This Nightcap roundtable discusses Trump's major victory as Supreme Court decides to limit the ability of judges to block his order restricting birthright citizenship nationwide. Then, both chambers of Congress receive classified briefings on the U.S. strikes on Iran. Plus, Trump ends trade talks with Canada, saying a new tariff will be announced next week. Joyce Vance, Heidi Heitikamp, Jon Ralston and Art Cullen join The 11th Hour this Friday. 

In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court has allowed the Trump administration to deport immigrants to countries other than their homeland. In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the latest decision from the Court's notorious shadow docket.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down:  – A judge's order releasing pro-Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil from custody while his deportation case proceeds; – A ruling ordering the release of Salvadoran national Kilmar Abrego García while he awaits his criminal trial;  – A federal appeals court decision allowing President Trump to retain control of the National Guard in Los Angeles; and – The Supreme Court's recent decision in U.S. v. Skrmetti upholding a Tennessee ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White House sets new two-week deadline to decide on U.S. involvement in Iran. Then, Steve Bannon visits the White House as MAGA clashes over potential U.S. military action. Plus, White House border czar says immigration raids on worksites, including farms and hotels, will continue. Melanie Zanona, Peter Baker, Nayyera Haq, Ernie Tedeschi, Justin Wolfers, Joyce Vance and Joel Payne join The 11th Hour this Thursday. 

President Trump continues his quest for unchecked power. In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the latest in the ongoing legal battle over Trump's federalization of the National Guard in response to protests in Los Angeles.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down the state and federal charges against a Minnesota man accused of killing Minnesota House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband in their home over the weekend, and shooting another lawmaker. Plus, Trump's wavering on whether to exempt farms and hotels from ICE raids.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts The Beat on Tuesday, June 17th, and reports on the court cases weighing Trump's military powers after national protests, Sen. Mike Lee backing down after vitriolic posts mocking an assassination, and the Trump family facing tariff hypocrisy as they launch a new "gold phone" business. Jason Johnson, Joyce Vance and Francis Fukuyama join.

 Israel launches what it calls “preemptive strikes” on Iran. Then, Israeli Defense Minister declares nationwide state of emergency, warning that an Iranian attack may be imminent. Plus, California Senator Alex Padilla is forcibly removed from government press conference in LA. Courtney Kube, Hagar Chemali, Peter Baker, General Barry McCaffrey, Joyce Vance, Carol Leonnig, Jeremy Bash and Susan Glasser join The 11th Hour this Thursday.

Does the President have unilateral authority to deploy the National Guard in Los Angeles to quell protests? Or must President Trump consult with California Governor Gavin Newsom? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss Trump's decision to activate troops without a request from the state's governor.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce dive into Newsom's lawsuit against the Trump administration. Plus, they discuss Kilmar Abrego Garcia's return to the U.S., where he now faces criminal charges for allegedly smuggling immigrants into the country. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ali Velshi is joined by NBC News' Jacob Soboroff, Senior Director at Brennan Center for Justice Faiza Patel, Tennessee State Rep. Justin Jones, Lead Plaintiff in Texas Abortion Ban lawsuit Amanda Zurawski, Professor of Law at NYU Melissa Murray

Ali Velshi is joined by Staff Writer at The Atlantic Adam Serwer, President of National Immigration Law Center Kica Matos, fmr. Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), fmr. U.S. attorney Joyce Vance

Should a president have unchecked authority to impose tariffs on foreign nations? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the Court of International Trade's unanimous ruling that President Trump exceeded his authority by invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to impose sweeping tariffs. Also on the Insider docket: – Harvard University's ongoing legal battle against the Trump administration over its efforts to ban international students from attending the school; and – A federal judge's ruling that struck down Trump's executive order targeting Preet's law firm, WilmerHale. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ali Velshi is joined by MSNBC Senior National Security Analyst Frank Figliuzzi, Associate Professor of International Affairs & Director of Graduate Studies at Georgia Tech Margaret Kosal, Senior Writer at Slate Mark Joseph Stern, fmr. U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance

On this week's Insider episode, Joyce Vance is joined by ACLU National Legal Director Cecillia Wang, while Preet is out for his son's college graduation. In an excerpt from the episode, Cecillia discusses the organization's lawsuit challenging Trump's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members. In the full conversation, Cecillia details other ongoing ACLU litigation against the Trump administration, including cases challenging President Trump's birthright citizenship executive order and Trump's revocation of temporary protected status for Venezuelan immigrants. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The President's tax and spending megabill narrowly passes the House, but it faces changes in the Senate. Plus, a look at the winners of Trump's memecoin contest. And a suspect is charged in the murder of two Israeli Embassy aides outside the Capital Jewish Museum. Susan Glasser, Angelo Carusone, Joyce Vance, Teddy Schleifer, Bill Cohan, Juanita Tolliver, Reed Galen, and Jon Meacham join The 11th Hour this Thursday. 

What happens when a court that often defers to the President finally says “not so fast”? In an excerpt from this week's Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the Supreme Court opinion halting the Trump administration's use of the Alien Enemies Act to rapidly deport alleged Venezuelan gang members.  Also on the Insider docket: – The justices heard oral arguments on whether federal judges can issue nationwide injunctions blocking enforcement of President Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship; and – DOJ is investigating former FBI Director James Comey over a social media post the Trump administration says amounted to a threat of violence against the President. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ali Velshi is joined by fmr. FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, Immigration Attorney Allen Orr, and fmr. U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance

The White House celebrates a "big deal" with the U.S. that turns out to be a framework with few details. Then, Trump names former Fox News host Jeanine Pirro as a top DC federal prosecutor after being forced to withdraw his first choice. And, the conclave elects the first US-born Pope, Leo XIV. Peter Baker, Charlie Sykes, David Gura, Bill Cohan, Chris Jansing, Joe Donnelly, Joyce Vance, Ben Jealous, and Ryan Busse join the 11th Hour this Thursday night.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts The Beat on Monday, May 5th, and reports on the economy and rule of law under the second Trump administration, as well as RFK Jr.'s recent actions with respect to the Department of Health and Human Services. Caleb Silver, Eugene Robinson, Joyce Vance, and R.J. Cutler join.

Did a Wisconsin judge commit a crime by allegedly helping a man avoid ICE agents in her courthouse? In an excerpt from the Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the criminal charges brought by federal prosecutors against Judge Hannah Dugan for allegedly interfering with federal immigration enforcement. Also on the Insider docket: – The first 100 days of President Trump's second administration; – Criminal charges filed against a former New Mexico judge for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement; and – The deportation of U.S. citizen children to Honduras along with their mothers who were in the country unlawfully. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To hear from reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to ⁠⁠cafe.com/insider⁠. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who gets due process? Did the Trump administration deny Kilmar Abrego Garcia due process by deporting him to El Salvador despite an immigration judge's prior order blocking his removal? Listen to an excerpt from the Insider podcast with Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance.   In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further discuss the Abrego Garcia case, including a recent circuit court opinion, authored by a conservative judge, strongly rebuking the Trump administration's resistance to court orders compelling officials to facilitate Abrego Garcia's return to the United States. Also on the Insider docket: – The Supreme Court's emergency order blocking the Trump administration from using the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members; – A federal judge's indication that he will launch contempt proceedings against the Trump administration for seemingly violating his order blocking some deportations; and – The latest developments in the “Signal-gate” controversy, after reporting revealed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared sensitive information in a group chat with his wife, brother, and lawyer. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. To hear from reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Will the Trump administration facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States after officials admitted he was erroneously deported to El Salvador, or will it defy the Supreme Court's order? Listen to an excerpt from the Insider podcast with Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance.   In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further discuss Abrego Garcia's case, including the uncertainty over whether the SCOTUS ruling was unanimous, and the separation-of-powers implications of a court order related to the executive branch's authority in international affairs.  They also analyze President Trump's executive memoranda targeting two members of his first administration who criticized him: former Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency Director Chris Krebs and former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it's critical to stay tuned. If you want to hear from reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's the correct legal path—and the proper venue—for someone facing deportation to challenge their removal in court?  On this week's Insider episode, Joyce Vance is joined by former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Barb McQuade and Lawfare editor-in-chief Ben Wittes, while Preet is out. In an excerpt from the show, they break down the Supreme Court order vacating a lower court decision that froze the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador.   In the full episode, Joyce, Barb, and Ben discuss:  – The legal arguments that might support President Donald Trump's claim that he could serve a third term as president; and – Other legal challenges stemming from the Trump administration's deportations, including one case where officials admit they erroneously deported a Maryland man. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. To become a member of CAFE Insider head to cafe.com/insider. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Could Donald Trump serve a third term as president? In an excerpt from the Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down President Trump's suggestion of an extra four years, which would violate the 22nd Amendment.   In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – Trump's latest executive order targeting a prestigious law firm; – The Trump administration's admission that a Maryland resident was erroneously deported to El Salvador; – The fallout after senior Trump officials accidentally included a journalist in a group chat discussing imminent war plans; – Trump's executive order taking aim at voting procedures in federal elections. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. To become a member of CAFE Insider head to cafe.com/insider. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Atlantic has entered the chat. Jeffrey Goldberg, the magazine's editor-in-chief, was mistakenly included in a Signal group chat featuring senior members of the Trump administration discussing highly sensitive information about imminent war plans. In an excerpt from the Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the hypocrisy and incompetence on display this week from Trump's White House.    In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – The naming of Trump's former personal attorney Alina Habba as the interim U.S. Attorney for New Jersey; and – The attacks targeting Tesla and DOJ's decision to investigate these acts as domestic terrorism; and – The latest in Trump's ongoing efforts to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. To become a member of CAFE Insider head to cafe.com/insider. You'll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Editorial Producer II: Jake Kaplan; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, Claudia Hernández, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kate Shaw is a constitutional law professor at University of Pennsylvania Penn Carey Law School. Shaw joins Preet to discuss legal challenges to President Trump's executive orders and the constitutionality of Elon Musk's role in DOGE. They also discuss whether Justice Amy Coney Barrett is shifting away from the conservative majority and upcoming Supreme Court cases on birthright citizenship and transgender care.  Plus, in a special excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet and Joyce Vance speak with First Amendment expert Erwin Chemerinksy about the constitutionality of Trump's attempt to deport Mahmoud Khalil based on his involvement in pro-Palestine protests at Columbia University. Visit cafe.com/insider to subscribe and hear the full conversation. For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to our website.  Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBhararaon Twitter or Bluesky with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices