Sometimes Dead is Better

Chris and Christin are back!  Your beloved hosts return after a 2 year hiatus (?) to discuss James Wan's 2021's certified banger Malignant. Meet our new best friend Gabriel, i.e., Chris's pick to host the 2024 Academy Awards. Enjoy our completely coherent discussion on all things Seattle, asylums, "body contortionists", Zoe Bell, 80s jailhouse movie lesbians, Maddie's curious choice of house decor, weird body autonomy politics, and the movie's rampant X-Files vibes. Then, Christin upsets Chris with her discussion of dissociative identity disorder (DID) and the case of Billy Milligan.  Thanks for listening!  What they are drinking: Velvet Devil Merlot (it's a twist off!) Follow us! Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Rate, review and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify  Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gahhhbbiewatts Logo design by Katherine Ross Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin complete their Spielberg trilogy by discussing the 2005 Tom Cruise sci-fi/horror/thriller/survival movie War of the Worlds. They discuss the 9/11 imagery, whether Tim Robbins's character actually lost anyone, the impressive Dakota Fanning and an exclusive Chris discovery! Tivo your shows so you can listen before you watch them! What they've been watching (reading): Lord of the Rings book series by J.R.R. Tolkien, Bridgerton (Netflix) and Night Stalker documentary (Netflix) What they are drinking: Heretic Make America Juicy Again pale ale, Brooklyn cocktail Movie discussion starts at: 14:58 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gahhhbbiewatts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In this special bonus episode Chris and Christin talk to the ultimate Jurassic movies expert, Christin's son Adam. Adam is in first grade and loves all things dinosaurs. Chris asks Adam his burning questions like "who would win, a T-rex or a Spinosaurus?". Then Chris and Christin have a not so timely extended "What you been watching" since they haven't talked in a bit.  What they've been watching: The Hobbit trilogy, Lord of the Rings Trilogy, The Joker, A Star is Born, Soul Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In this Jurassic Park part 2 episode, Christin tells Chris about the events that led up to SeaWorld saying they will no longer use Orca whales in their shows. Tilikum was a 4,000 killer whale that killed three people before SeaWorld finally had to address the fact that they should not be in captivity. Life, uh, finds a way.  Source: Blackfish documentary (2013) Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 2nd movie of their Spielberg trilogy, one of their favorite movies ever: Jurassic Park. They discuss (so much) what the movie meant to them as kids, what dino the velociraptor was actually based on and all the glory of Laura Dern. Pop the champagne and hold on to your butts! Run! What they are drinking: Josh Prosseco and Korbel champagne What they have been watching: The Mandolorian, The Clone Wars, The Endless (Prime), Grey's Anatomy and This is Us.  Movie discussion starts at: 8:19 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this Jaws part 2 episode Christin tells Chris three amazing stories that tie to Jaws. First they talk about a murder that happened 100 miles away during the filming of Jaws and how the movie may have clues to the answer. They then discuss the true story of the 1916 New Jersey shark attacks and finally the true story of the USS Indianapolis. You do not want to miss this episode, rabbit holes galore! CW: murder, PTSD, war, deadly shark attacks, child death Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gahhhbbiewatts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: Podcast, Inside Jaws, hosted by Mark Ramsey, Wondery https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inside-jaws/id1387670973 https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/07/150702-shark-attack-jersey-shore-1916-great-white/ https://www.history.com/news/uss-indianapolis-sinking-survivor-stories-sharks https://abcnews.go.com/US/oldest-survivor-uss-indianapolis-died-98/story?id=68100131 https://people.com/crime/lady-in-the-dunes-jaws-cold-case-mystery/ https://allthatsinteresting.com/shark-attacks-1916 https://www.britannica.com/story/the-1916-shark-attacks-that-gave-sharks-a-bad-rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbzR2gZqUsc&feature=youtu.be    

In this episode Chris and Christin dive into the deep to discuss Steven Spielberg's 1975 terrifying classic Jaws. They discuss what a quotable movie it is, how Chris's parent's showed it to him when he was 5 (!) and the menagerie of wonderful characters. Chris also makes a Black Panther prediction. Come on in, the water is warm! What they have been watching: Crawl (Prime) and Knock Knock (Netflix) What they are drinking: Landshark beer and Bermuda Tiger Shark Ginger Beer in a Moscow mule with Reyka vodka (sans copper cup) Movie discussion starts at: 7:07 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this part 2 of their Friday the 13th episode, Christin tells Chris the most famous cold case murders in Finnish history, the Lake Bodom murders. They also discuss The Queen's Gambit and their "final girl" rankings. After a quick Friday the 13th Part 2 review (and a Jurassic Park/Jurassic World sidebar) they get into the true crime.  True crime discussion starts at: 25:24 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c141pah7J_I https://screamfestla.com/blog/real-unsolved-murders-lake-bodom https://medium.com/@allisoneckmeier/true-crime-lake-bodom-murders-c9070a197de9 https://allthatsinteresting.com/lake-bodom-murders  

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1980 slasher movie that kicked off one of the most iconic horror franchises of all time, Friday the 13th. They discuss the rules of strip monopoly, whether the movie "cheated" and the Bacon of it all. They also discuss "final girls" that in the movies that they have reviewed on the podcast. Get your guitar (or machete) and gather 'round the campfire with them! What they are watching: The Innocents (youtube) and EVIL (Netflix)What they are drinking: Dogfish Head Camp Fire Amplifier stoutMovie discussion starts at: 14:16Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_wattsLogo design by Katherine RossFollow us!Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are BetterInstagram @sometimesdeadpodcastTwitter: @sometimesdead4Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_LightParade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em 

In this episode Chris and Christin have an emergency meeting to discuss Mike Flanagan's sophomore follow up to The Haunting of Hill House, The Haunting of Bly Manor. Like many of us, they have just binged the 9 episodes and have burning questions, thoughts and hot takes. Did they give Oliver Jackson-Cohen his Scottish accent to make him 75% hotter? Where are all the ghosts? What does it all mean?!?SPOILERS (!!!) for BLY MANOR AND AN AMERICAN MURDERCW: depression, suicide, murder, interpersonal violenceThey first discuss the Netflix documentary, An American Murder.What they are drinking: Crestwood Barrel Riesling and Ghost Pines Cabernet SauvignonShow discussion starts at: 10:37Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_wattsLogo design by Katherine RossFollow us!Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are BetterInstagram @sometimesdeadpodcastTwitter: @sometimesdead4Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_LightParade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Christin tells Chris what inspired Wes Craved to write A Nightmare on Elm Street, the terrifying cases of Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome. They also discuss Chris Evan's pic slip up, what little they know about the Vietnam War (and suggest just watching the new Ken Burn's doc, and the docs Origin Story and The Nightmare) and what dreams are made of. https://www.history.com/news/nightmare-on-elm-street-real-inspiration-hmong-death https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/10/us/nightmares-suspected-in-bed-deaths-of-18-laotians.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-01-11-mn-3961-story.html#:~:text=Medical%20authorities%20call%20this%20Asian%20Death%20Syndrome.%20The,in%20Thailand%20something%20else%2C%22%20says%20Dr.%20Robert%20Kirschner. https://www.lifedeathprizes.com/spooky-stuff/asian-death-syndrome-in-hmong-refugees-65606 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7WI2w4WjU

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1984 Wes Craven classic A Nightmare on Elm Street. They discuss if Dave Matthews Band is creepy, their recurring dreams and how iconic Nancy's mom is. So put on your head phones, turn on Miss Nude America and join them! What they are watching (listening): The Devil All the Time on Netflix and the podcast Cold What they are drinking: Goat Island Blood Orange Weiss and Fire Maker Chattahoochee-Tea IPA Movie discussion starts at: 10:06 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this part two episode Christin tells Chris how easy it is to get lost in the woods. She goes on to tell him the mysterious and terrifying story of the Russian Dyatlov Pass Incident. Chris also tells Christin about a poltergeist incident in his kitchen and they hear a sound on the podcast that puts Chris on edge. Sources: All That's Interesting. (2017, October 17) The Harrowing Mystery of the Dyatlov Pass Incident. All That's Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/dyatlov-pass-incident Pilkington, Mark. (2003, October 15) The Fear Frequency. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2003/oct/16/science.farout The Infographics Show. (2019, August) What Made Hikers Take Clothes Off In Below Freezing Temps? (The Dyatlov Pass Mystery).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MW9Rczxe8&feature=youtu.be Stuff you Should Know Podcast. "The Dyatlov Pass Mystery". (2018, July 26). https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/how-stuff-works/stuff-you-should-know/e/55508258   Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin head back to the glory of the 90s with the phenomenon from 1999, The Blair Witch Project. They discuss the found footage genre, creepy things they have found in the woods and play f**k, marry, kill with the cast. What they've been watching: Halt and Catch Fire, Gavin and Stacey What they are drinking: Josh legacy red blend wine and UFO Pumpkin Ale Movie discussion starts at: 6:33 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Christin tells Chris the story of the West Virginia murders that inspired Davis's Grubb's novel, Night of the Hunter, that Steve Agee and Charles Laughton turned into the 1955 movie of the same name that they discussed last week. They discuss the new Bly Manor and The Stand trailers, how the real Harry Powers is not nearly attractive as Robert Mitchum and how the book and movie adapted the real story. CW: murder, child murder Sources: https://wickedwe.com/harry-powers/ http://www.wvculture.org/HiStory/crime/powers01.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_8GufvTb4 Brief Case "America's Most Notorious Lady Killer: Harry Powers" Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1955 horror fairytale, Night of the Hunter. They discuss the rugged handsomeness of Robert Mitchum, how Lillian Gish inspired The Smashing Pumpkins and toxic masculinity. *Note: Christin's mic messed up (she may have spilled beer on it) and there is a little static on her end, sorry! What they've been watching: OA on Netflix and BBC's The Office What they are drinking: Bell's Two Hearted Ale IPA (Chris) and Blueberry Acai Truly (Christin) Movie discussion starts at: 9:46 CW: Domestic abuse, murder, child abuse Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Christin ties a true crime to the movie Mandy before she had even seen it! She picks a pretty spot on true crime and tells Chris and Casey the story of the drug hazed, Satanic cult murders of the Fall River Cult.  CW: animal death, abuse, murder, cults, drug use, child abuse Sources:  Podcast: Cults by the Parcast network, "The Fall River Cult" - Robin Murphy and "The Fall River Cult pt. 2" - Robin Murphy http://bloody-mess.net/2013/01/real-life-horror-the-satanic-cult-killings-of-fall-river/ http://www.carldrewsfight.com/ https://cvltnation.com/sex-satanism-sacrificial-slaughter-fall-river-cult-murders-1979-80/ https://behindtheveil07.wordpress.com/2018/07/12/the-fall-rivers-cult Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin venture into the Shadow of the Mountains with special guest Casey, Christin's brother. Casey picked the Nicolas Cage revenge thriller, Mandy. Do they like it? They think so? They discuss all the horror movies referenced in the film, how metal the movie is are and of course Cheddar Goblin. Rock on! What they have been watching: I'll Be Gone in the Dark, Dave, Chernobyl What they are drinking: Savage Cabernet Sauvignon Movie discussion starts at: 14:23 CW: animal death, abuse, murder, cults, drug use Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In this episode Elise stops by again to fill in for Chris. Christin made her daughter watch a somewhat scary movie and is so proud of her. They discuss Disney movies, Motown music and  whether there may be a horror movie fan inside of Elise after all.   Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In this episode Chris and Christin get serious about domestic violence (DM) and intimate partner violence (IPV) that was depicted in The Invisible Man. First, Christin tells Chris about the scary facts of IPV, including that black females are twice as likely to be a victim of IPV. #blacklivesmatter Christin then tells Chris about the true case of Francine Hughes that inspired the 1984 made for TV movie starring Farrah Fawcett, The Burning Bed.    IPV and DM are never ok. You deserve better. For more information please visit:  https://www.thehotline.org/   Sources:   Blakemore, Erin. "Francine Hughes Killed Her Abusive Husband-And Changed Views on Domestic Violence". History. 21 March 2019:  https://www.history.com/news/burning-bed-syndrome-francine-hughes-domestic-abuse   Diliberto, Gioia. "A Violent, Haunted Life". People. 8 Oct 1984: https://people.com/archive/cover-story-a-violent-death-a-haunted-life-vol-22-no-15/   Jones, Feminista. "Why Black Women Stuggle More With Domestic Violence". Time USA, LLC. 10 Sept 2014: https://time.com/3313343/ray-rice-black-women-domestic-violence/   Ludlow, Ester, host. Once Upon a Crime. "Episode 019: True Crime Gamechangers: Francine Hughes and the Burning Bed". 17 Nov 2016:  https://www.stitcher.com/s?eid=64892838&autoplay=1   Maitland, Leslie. "Courts Easy on Rising Family Violence". The New York Times. 14 June 1976: https://www.nytimes.com/1976/06/14/archives/courts-easy-on-rising-family-violence-family-violence-on-rise-is.html   Maitland, Leslie. "Hearings are Held on Battered Wives". The New York Times. 15 Oct 1976: https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/15/archives/hearings-are-held-on-battered-wives-city-council-committee-studies.html   Taub, Amanda. "A New Covid-19 Crisis: Domestic Abuse Rises Worldwide". The New York Times. 14 April 2020:  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/world/coronavirus-domestic-violence.html   When Men Murder Women study by The Violence Policy Center, September 2018: https://vpc.org/studies/wmmw2019.pdf   Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the pleasant surprise (wink wink) of the year, The Invisible Man. Directed by Leigh Whanell and staring the incomparable Elizabeth Moss (also some dude you barely see but is Luke from Haunting of Hill House). They discuss the intensity of Elizabeth Moss, being a leader in the field of optics and (of course) how distractingly hot James is.  What they are watching (Christin): It Chapter 2 What they are listening to (Chris): Pearl Jam's Gigaton, Bob Dylan's Rough and Rowdy Ways and Fiona Apple's Fetch the Bolt Cutters What they are drinking: Phantom red wine by Bogel Vineyard CW: domestic violence, suicide Minor spoilers for It Chapter 2 and Gone Girl Movie discussion starts at: 12:22 Sources: Evolution of Horror podcast, "The Invisible Man (2020) With Jason Blum & Leigh Whannell, Feb 26 2020 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In the part 2 episode of their Candyman episode Christin digs into the history of the Cabrini-Green housing projects starting with the Federal Housing Authority's denial of housing loans to African Americans back in the 1940s. Christin goes into how the denial of allowing African Americans to build equity lead to the violent and neglected housing projects of Chicago. Then Christin tells Chris the true murder that inspired Candyman, that of Ruthie Mae McCoy.  Sources:  https://chicagoganghistory.com/housing-project/cabrini-green/ 30 min documentary about Cabrini-Green: https://vimeo.com/8207992 Articles by journalist Steve Borgia: https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/they-came-in-through-the-bathroom-mirror/Content?oid=871084 https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/cause-of-death/Content?oid=875995 NPR interview with Richard Rothstein, author of "The Color Of Law: A Forgotten History Of How Our Government Segregated America": https://www.npr.org/transcripts/526655831 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Chris and Christin have been separated for over three months and are finally back together to talk horror. Are they rusty? Do they forget their segments and drinking games? You bet! But they do delve deep into the 1992 classic Candyman. They talk bees, themes of race and class in the movie and the reality vs urban legend of Candyman.  Tune in to part 2 where Christin goes into the history of federal housing projects and Cabrini-Green. Then she tells the true story of the medicine cabinet murder in a Chicago housing project.  Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Whoops. What they've been watching: Schitt's Creek, I Am Not Your Negro, Da 5 Bloods, Watchmen, The Leftovers What they are drinking: Budweiser, the King of beers Movie discussion starts at: 12:59 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  

In part 2 of Sometimes Elise is Better: Conspiracy Theories, Christin and Elise discuss two more conspiracy theories. Christin talks about how the moon landing was faked conspiracy and Elise talks about flatearthers. They also put together that the dead Paul McCartney must be the one the flatearthers think are controlling the sun and moon! Yeet! What they are watching: Fox and The Hound (1981), Scrubs, My Name is Earl Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources:  Podcast: Conspiracy Theories, episodes Flat Earth Pt 1, Flat Earth Pt 2, The Moon Landing, The Moon Landing Pt. 2 https://www.history.com/news/moon-landing-fake-conspiracy-theories http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1860871_1860876_1860992,00.html

In this episode Elise steps in to fill Chris's shoes and steps in as co-host during these strange times. Elise does not watch horror movies or even action movies, so we change up the format a bit. Instead, they discuss two conspiracy theories. Elise discusses the theory that Paul McCartney of The Beatles died in 1966 and was replaced with a look a like. Then Christin talks about the strange going ons at the Denver Airport. Christin also makes her daughter look at a Hieronymus Bosch painting and Elise lets us know what the kids are up to. Stay Healthy! Yeet! What they been watching: Youtube: Odd1sout, Somethingelseyt, Jaiden Animations, MrBeast and Tiger King documentary on Netflix, The Office Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources:  The Walrus was Paul: The Great Beatle Death Clues by R. Gary Patterson https://www.amazon.com/Walrus-Was-Paul-Great-Beatle/dp/0964645211/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+walrus+was+paul&qid=1586308047&sr=8-2 https://www.beatlesbible.com/ https://www.1009theeagle.com/is-paul-mccartney-still-dead/ https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/denver-airport-conspiracy-theories Podcast Conspiracy Theories, episodes The Denver Airport and The Denver Airport Pt 2

In part 2 of their Dr. Sleep episode, Christin tells Chris the true crime story about Donald Harvey, known as the Angel of Death.  Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources:  Podcast Killer Cocktails: Mint Julep, Donald Harvey, and William "Smokey" Saunders https://www.oxygen.com/license-to-kill/crime-time/nurses-aide-donald-harvey-murdered-37-victims-poison https://allthatsinteresting.com/donald-harvey https://www.newspapers.com/image/?clipping_id=25159988&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjEwMTg2NDQ3MSwiaWF0IjoxNTgyMzkyNzkxLCJleHAiOjE1ODI0NzkxOTF9.FknaMkoYiylhf7QfpbgVja88iXI9E_7FM1M7JiV6VkM https://www.toledoblade.com/local/police-fire/2019/03/01/angel-of-death-donald-harvey-charges-toledo-prison-killing-james-elliott/stories/20190301154

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the sequel to The Shining, Dr. Sleep. They discuss Mike Flanagan's thought process on recreating classic scenes from the original 1980 movie, how cool Rose the Hat looks grocery shopping and where they would appear if they could mysteriously appear anywhere (hint: it involves Chris Evans and Patrick Wilson).  Stay tuned next week to hear the true crime Christin ties to Dr. Sleep What they are watching: High Fidelity on hulu and Moulin Rouge (2001) What they are drinking: Jack Daniels neat Movie discussion starts at: 9:30 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Listen to the episode of the podcast Post Mortem with Mike Flanagan for more in depth info!

In the part 2 episode of their Parasite discussion, Christin tells Chris the story of a true parasite, Christian Gerhartsreiter who became infamous as Clark Rockefeller.  Book: Blood Will Out by Walter Kirn https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2009/01/fake_rockefeller200901

In this episode Chris and Christin again veer from the horror genre (or do they? what genre is Parasite?) to discuss Bong Joon Ho's newest movie that swept the Oscars. They discuss  what the landscape/scholar rock represents, how Bong portrays classism and how a peach is the best used weapon ever in a movie. Grab a shot of soju and join us! Then get a little distracted at the end because the movie was playing as they finished and they just wanted to watch the movie again.  What they have been watching: Wrinkles the Clown documentary and Aaron Hernandez: The Killer Inside on Netflix What they are drinking: Ty-Ku Soju  Movie discussion starts at: 12:04 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.thecinemaholic.com/parasite-true-story/

In this part 2 episode Chris and Christin's brother Casey gather around Christin as she tells them the disturbing true crime story of murder of Tim Mclean on a Greyhound bus. This incident reminds Christin of the movie they talked about last week, Dawn of the Dead (1978). They first discuss escalator accidents, then go on a tangent about Vince Neil and Casey tells his first exposure to cannibalism.  Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/the-scream-that-haunts-the-forgotten-passengers-of-bus-1170/article1372244/

In this episode Chris and Christin welcome a special guest to talk about the second movie in George Romero's classic trilogy, Dawn of the Dead. Christin's older brother Casey stops by to talk about whether this is movie a buddy comedy, how impressive the survivors make their little mall home and how much Christopher Lloyd scared Casey as a kid.  Stay tuned for part 2 next week to hear the true crime Christin chose to go with the movie.  What they are watching: Dracula on Netflix, ER (still), The Outsider, The Manchurian Candidate (1962) What they are drinking: Sangiovese wine and Jack Daniels (not together) Movie discussion starts at: 13:47 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In part two of their Psycho Episode, Christin tells Chris the true crime that reminds her of Psycho and Norman Bates. They already discussed the crimes of Ed Gein, but Christin had no shortage of murders with mommy issues to choose from. She chose the awful true crimes of Charles Albright, the Eyeball Killer. Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Albright,%20Charles.htm https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/see-no-evil-3/

In this episode Chris and Christin finally discuss Alfred Hitchcock's 1960 masterpiece Psycho. They first discuss Star Wars and Christin's embarrassing ranking of the movies, then move on to the hotness of Sam Loomis, the badassery of Marion Crane and the insanity of Norman Bates. They also discuss what the 1960 audience could have possibly been thinking about the twists and turns when the movie premiered and touch on the lgbt subtext of the movie.  Stay tuned next week for the true crime that Christin links to the movie. They already did Ed Gein, so what could the true story be? What they have been watching: Marriage Story and 1917 What they are drinking: The White Lady cocktail. 2oz. gin, 1oz Cointreau, 1 oz. lemon juice, shaken with ice Movie discussion starts (with a brief Star Wars tangent): 15:44 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

After discussing state abbreviations for too long, Chris and Christin discuss the zombie (or ghoul) flick that started it all, George Romero's 1968 classic Night of the Living Dead. They discuss the rules of zombies and how they have evolved over the years, the underlying text of race in the movie and how attractive the couple in the basement are. Then Christin tells Chris the origins of the word zombie and the story of Felicia Felix-Mentor, a Haitian woman who may have came back from the dead.  What they are watching: Knives Out, ER What they are drinking: Bone Dry Hard Cider, Core Crusher apple cider Movie discussion starts at: 11:02 True story discussion starts at: 52:34 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Sources: Lore podcast: Episode 26 You Must Remember This podcast: series on Song of the South https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/george-a-romero-says-brad-pitt-killed-zombie-genre-942559 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/why-night-living-dead-is-more-relevant-ever-1145708 https://www.history.com/topics/folklore/history-of-zombies http://faculty.webster.edu/corbetre/haiti/voodoo/mars-zombi.htm https://harpers.org/archive/1984/04/the-pharmacology-of-zombies/ https://www.livescience.com/40690-zombie-haiti-are-zombies-real.html

In this episode Chris and Christin dive into the 2014 new classic The Babadook. They discuss how the movie helped Christin cope with her own kids, how evil entities seem to know how to use the telephone and the crowning of the The Babadook as a gay icon. Then Christin tells Chris the heartbreaking true story of Andrea Yates.  CW: murder, child murder, violence against children, violence against animals, filicide, mental illness What they are watching: The Righteous Gemstones on HBO and The Irishman on Netflix What they are drinking: Penley Estate Phoenix Cabernet Sauvignon Movie discussion starts at: 9:27 True crime discussion starts at: 54:15 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Logo design by Katherine Ross Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Sources: Podcast Red Handed, episode 109 Andrea Yates and The Devil https://www.michaelworoniecki.com/about/ https://www.oprah.com/omagazine/andrea-yates-a-cry-in-the-dark/all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates    

'Tis the season for the 1978 classic Halloween! ('Cause it is always in season). People may be putting up their Christmas trees and Menorahs, but Chris and Christin discuss the incompetence of Dr. Sam Loomis, Michael Myers's driving skills and scream queen Jaime Lee Curtis. Grab a pumpkin beer (if you can find one) and join them! Then Christin tells Chris a terrible true crime murder that happened on Halloween night. What they have been watching: Castle Rock season 2, The Joker, Billy on the Street What they are drinking: Cahaba Brewing Oktoberfest red ale Movie discussion starts at: 8:30 True crime discussion starts at: 1:03:09 Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Sources: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/was-the-movie-halloween-based-on-true-events.html/ http://jclass.umd.edu/archive/newshoax/casestudies/crime/CrimeHalTim7.html

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1974 classic The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They discuss the movie's influence on Ridley Scott's Alien, who's dating who in the group of friends and whether the family was just "standing their ground". Then Christin turns Chris's stomach with the true story of the Butcher of Plainfield, Ed Gein.  Movie discussion starts at: 13:58 True crime discussion starts at: 1:19:02 CW: violence, violence against women, murder What they have been watching: Breaking Bad rewatch, El Camino, The Politician What they are drinking: Arch Rival Cabernet Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Sources:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Texas_Chain_Saw_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein https://allthatsinteresting.com/ed-gein-house Podcast episode: Stuff You Should Know: Ed Gein: The Serial Killer's Serial Killer Podcast episode: Paranormal Chicks: Ep 61-Reupholstering with Ed Gein

Darling? Light of my life. In this episode Chris and Christin welcome a very special guest! Fellow Atlanta stand up comic Julie Marateck! Julie has chosen one of her (and Chris and Christin's) favorite movies, Stanley Kubrick's 1980 horror masterpiece: The Shining. They discuss what first scared Julie, themes of misogyny and race in the movie and theories of the documentary Room 237. Then Christin tells Chris and Julie an incredible true story of survival in the Utah snow. Have Lloyd bring you a fresh bourbon and join them! CW: murder, mental illness, child abuse What they have been watching: The Stand (now on Bluray) and Unbelievable on Netflix What they are drinking: Eagle Rare single  barrel bourbon Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em  Sources: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sisters-survive-deadly-attack-at-utah-cabin/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-tiede-case-two-killers-two-outcomes-justice-served/

In this episode (first time two parter!) Chris and Christin continue to objectify Johnathan Groff and Holt McCallany. They also discuss the 2nd season of Mindhunter! They discuss all the serial killers in this season (so many!) plus the brilliant portrayal Manson, the disappointment in Dr. Wendy Carr's storyline and the podcast Atlanta Monster. Get another glass of white wine from that hot bartender and join them! Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/little/readings/crucifixion.html https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/mindhunter-netflix-real-serial-killers.html Podcast Atlanta Monster

In this episode (part one of two!) Chris and Christin dive into season 1 of the Netflix tv show Mindhunter. This time Christin is just a stone's through from about 10 true crimes. They discuss the sweetness of Johnathon Groff, the ruggedness of Holt McCallany and the fierceness of Anna Torv. They also talk about each sequence killer? No, serial killer. They also discuss what the cat and Dr. Wendy Carr actually means (probably for too long) and how wonderful Robert Downey Jr. is in Zodiac. Grab your white wine and join them! What they have been watching: Ready or Not (2019) and When They See Us (Netflix) What are they drinking: Menage a trois pinot grigio Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/mindhunter-netflix-real-serial-killers.html

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 2000 movie American Psycho. They also discuss the controversial Brett Easton Ellis book of the same name published in 1991 (that for some reason Christin decided to read on vacation). They discuss the hilarity of Christian Bale’s wonderful performance as the titular psycho, dinner reservations, Chloe Sevigny and the thought of psychopaths walking among us.  Then Christin terrifies Chris with the true story of the murderer (and real life Patrick Bateman) Luka Magnotta and his victim Jun Lin.  What they have been watching: Midsommar director’s cut, Christine (2016) What are they drinking: J&B scotch whiskey with Diet Pepsi Midsommar spoilers from 7:51 to 12:25 Movie/book discussion officially starts at: 15:11 True crime discussion starts at: 1:05:47 CW: murder, violence against women, violence against animals Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources:  https://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/magnotta-luka/ True Crime Garage podcast: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/true-crime-garage/e/50749847 http://truecrimegarage.podbean.com/e/luka-magnotta-part-2-123/?fbclid=IwAR2xp1NnqHaAA9jbnCkLRka1X1b8biTDNYoBqbUyqeYzwXukv-Nyioq42N0

In this super sized episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1991 Oscar winning movie The Silence of the Lambs. They discuss Chris's childhood memories with the movie, the homophobia and transphobia that surrounds the movie and Jodie Foster's oversized sports coats. How many references will Christin make to the Hannibal TV show? How much Chianti will they drink? Don't wait for the lambs to stop screaming, go ahead and find out! Then Christin horrifies Chris the true story of one of the serial killers Buffalo Bill is based on: Jerry Brudos.  CW: violence against women, rape, murder Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources:  http://mentalfloss.com/article/61604/18-facts-about-silence-lambs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brudos https://www.thoughtco.com/serial-killer-jerry-brudos-973122 https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/9-chilling-facts-jerry-brudos-075322819.html

In this episode Chris and Christin welcome Brian back to discuss Quentin Tarantino's 9th (?) film, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It is not horror, but it is true crime (?) so it falls into their jurisdiction. They discuss the MTV show Are You the One? (Chris only) how many Kill Bill movies there are (Brian and Christin only) and how to get that night time Rick Dalton life. Then Christin tells Chris the unfortunate true story of the Manson family and tells him a dark secret about her own house. Drink your margarita out of the blender and eat your mac and cheese out of the pot and join them! What they have been watching: Music documentary Dig!, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs and MTV's Are You the One? What they are drinking: Frozen margaritas CW: murder, violence against women Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: Book Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi You Must Remember This podcast series on Manson:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-must-remember-manson/id1315652782 Terror Talk podcast series on Manson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/terror-talk-true-crime-psychology-horror-film-podcast/id1435529687 https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-09/50-years-later-families-of-manson-victims-still-fighting-to-tell-their-loved-ones-stories https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/are-there-more-victims-that-were-killed-by-the-manson-family

In this episode Christin and her sister (super fan of the pod!) Caitlin dive into the 1984 horror classic The Children of the Corn. They discuss what first scared Caitlin, the proper procedure when you hit someone with your car and why corn is so scary. Then Christin tells Caitlin the true crime story of Jasmine Richardson. Join us Outlander! CW: child death, murder Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1976 cult classic The Town That Dreaded Sundown. They discuss how this movie seems to be part Billy Wilder comedy and part raw 70s horror movie, how it seems to be feeling out the slasher movie formula and try to figure out what in the world life was like in the 1940s. Luckily for Christin it is actually based real events from 1946 and this makes her job pretty easy! So she tells Chris the true Texarkana Moonlight Murders! Spike your punch and join them! CW: murder, rape Theme song by Gabbie Watts Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em Sources: https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/texarkana-murder-mystery/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texarkana_Moonlight_Murders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87y1_IbJRZE

In this episode Chris and Christin leave the theater and come right home to discuss Ari Aster's new nightmare, Midsommar! Do you have lots of unanswered questions about Aster's new ambitious sophomore movie? Well, we can't help you, but we do have lots of thoughts and even more questions! Is this a break up movie? How should you properly jump off a cliff? Where was Toni Collette? Christin doesn't have a true crime, but still manages to remember some true scary things that are just bouncing around her mind. Grab some mushroom tea and join us! Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the underrated 2015 Guillermo Del Toro ghost story, Crimson Peak. They discuss the severe mood of Jessica Chastain's outfits, try to figure out how to say Mia Wasikowaska's last name and (of course) Chris describes his color scheme theory of the movie. So pour a bloody Mary and Beware Crimson Peak! Then Christin tells Chris the true crime story of Martha Jule Beck and Raymond Fernandez, The Lonely Hearts Killers. Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4  Sources: https://www.criminallyintrigued.com/blog/2018/8/12/the-lonely-hearts-killers https://www.ranker.com/list/facts-about-the-lonely-hearts-killers/amandasedlakhevener?page=3 Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin are once again invaded by Brian. They all discuss (one of Chris's all time favorites) the 1979 classic Alien. Is it horror? Is it sci-fi? Is it...boring? (Christin only) They discuss the hotness of Tom Skeritt and where Sigourney Weaver got those tiny underwear. They also talk about the designs of HR Giger and how the movie Alien has become central to movie discussion and pop culture. Then we have another special guest! Elise comes on to once again show us that nature is more disturbing then any movie and talks about real parasites the Alien monster was based on. Grab your cat and get comfy in your pod! Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Follow us! Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Instagram @sometimesdeadpodcast Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Sources: https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news100882.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2019/04/26/the-fossil-that-inspired-alien/#4de17e0b5d56 https://theconversation.com/meet-phronima-the-barrel-riding-parasite-that-inspired-the-movie-alien-22555 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonidae Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1996 game changer Scream. First we get Chris's take on the series finale of Game of Thrones and his reaction to Brian taking his place last episode. Then they dive into the beauty of the 90s and ask important questions such as: What is Neve Campbell's acting style? How is Skeet Ulrich so greasy? How is David Arquette so adorable?  Then Christin tells Chris the most horrifying true crime story yet. She tells him the true crimes Kevin Williamson based his screenplay on: The Gainesville Ripper. (Listener discretion advised)  Theme song by Gabbie Watts Follow her on Instagram @gabbie_watts and @gabbierotts Follow us! Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Instagram: @sometimesdeadpodcast email: sometimesdeadpodcast@gmail.com   Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Sources: https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/12/scream-20th-anniversary-true-story-serial-killer https://www.ranker.com/list/gainesville-killer-danny-rolling/erin-wisti https://www.grunge.com/79483/bizarre-true-story-scream-based/

Christin is joined by a special guest...Brian is back! They decide they need to discuss the cultural juggernaut Game of Thrones. Is Game of Thrones horror? I don't know, do you think zombies, torture and child murder are horror?? They discuss the series finale (and fix it!) and the series overall. Spoilers galore. Then Christin tells Brian true violent historical events that George RR Martin based his stories on. She also struggles with roman numerals. Pull up a chair up by the fire and get a glass of giant's milk and tune in! Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts Sources: http://mentalfloss.com/article/50927/real-life-events-inspired-sundays-game-thrones-episode http://mentalfloss.com/article/56558/7-historical-parallels-game-thrones https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/may/29/game-of-thrones-war-of-roses-hbo https://www.grunge.com/153163/the-real-history-game-of-thrones-is-based-on/ Join our Facebook group Sometimes Groups are Better Follow us! Twitter: @sometimesdead4 Instagram: @sometimesdeadpodcast email: sometimesdeadpodcast@gmail.com   Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Chris and Christin welcome a special guest. Christin's dad! John Neal loves Stephen King, movies and true crime, so he fits right in! He has retired from college football so he stops by to give his take on the original Pet Sematary movie (that he had never seen, but watched because he is SDIB's #1 fan) and the 2019 Pet Sematary movie. Then they also touch on movies from Night of the Living Dead to Psycho to Duel to The Exorcist! John talks about all his (sometimes illegal) fun at the California drive in movies. It's a fun time!