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Sarah's outdoor adventures never stop, and this time she ended up in a ski parade! While Susie has resorted to wearing heated apparel inside. Susie shares the story of Andrea Yates, the woman who killed her five children, and the religious beliefs that made her think she should. Susie is worked up about how grandparents now insist on being called all kinds of weird names and Sarah's got a theory about why they don't want to be called "grandma." We discuss the abundance of "service" dogs on planes and the reasons people bend the rules to get their dog on board, and why it's the airlines's fault. And we hear about two babies who were switched at birth and it wasn't discovered until they were two years old, and the moms had to decide whether to switch them back or not! The story is unbelievable, and no matter what, there is no right answer to how to handle it.00:00 - Sarah's Ski Parade and Susie's Heated Apparel17:51 - Unpacking the Horrific Andrea Yates Child Drowning Case23:13 - Examining the Extreme Religious Cult Behind Andrea Yates30:30 - How Religious Ideology Scaffolds Mental Illness43:11 - Why Grandparents Resist Being Called 'Grandma'52:17 - The Airline's Fault for Fake Service Dogs01:01:34 - The Impossible Choice in a Switched at Birth Case01:11:39 - Support the Podcast: Patreon, Reviews, and SponsorsBrain Candy Podcast Website - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/Brain Candy Podcast Book Recommendations - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/books/Brain Candy Podcast Merchandise - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/candy-store/Brain Candy Podcast Candy Club - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/product/candy-club/Brain Candy Podcast Sponsor Codes - https://thebraincandypodcast.com/support-us/Brain Candy Podcast Social Media & Platforms:Brain Candy Podcast LIVE Interactive Trivia Nights - https://www.youtube.com/@BrainCandyPodcast/streamsBrain Candy Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/braincandypodcastHost Susie Meister Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susiemeisterHost Sarah Rice Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imsarahriceBrain Candy Podcast on X: https://www.x.com/braincandypodBrain Candy Podcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/braincandy (JOIN FREE - TONS OF REALITY TV CONTENT)Brain Candy Podcast Sponsors, partnerships, & Products that we love:Begin your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness with Beducated by taking the quiz at https://beducate.me/pd2602-braincandySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Three young boys are killed by a car bomb, their mother Doreen and older brother in the front seat are the only survivors. Detectives Goren and Eames learn Paul Whitlock developed a new kind of land mine and his wife had spotted some threatening-looking Middle Eastern men before the blast. But there are indications the pipe bomb was built in their garage and someone swept it up. Bobby and Alex suspect the depressed Doreen blew up the car in a murder/suicide attempt.ADA Ron Carver insists the overbearing husband is their best suspect. The detectives find a space heater Doreen tampered with to leak carbon monoxide. The overwhelmed mother confesses she wanted to take the children to heaven with her, where she could be a better parent. But Goren and Eames discover the cold-blooded Whitlock knew Doreen wanted to die and was fine if she did - he just didn't know the children would get hurt. Enraged at his cruelty, the detectives insist Carver hold him legally responsible, but he says there's no crime in not stopping your wife from killing herself and her family.We're talking about Law & Order: Criminal Intent season 4 episode 7 “Magnificat.” Our returning guest is Katie from the A Date with Dateline podcast.Plot points in this episode are inspired by the 2001 case of Andrea Yates. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
The Super Sleuth goes with Chris from Exposing the Cults about Michael Woroniecki and the Andrea Yates Tragedy with regards to the recent documentary from ID and HBO Max.Chris@examiningthecults.org Chris's Website: HEREChris's YouTube: HEREBe Part of the Mission to Change Lives: HERESHOP OUR MERCH: HEREPlease consider subscribing to our YouTube Channel: CultishTV.comCultish is a 100% crowdfunded ministry.
Julian P. Hobbs and Elli Hakami, the directors of HBO's docuseries The Cult Behind the Killer: The Andrea Yates Story. The series is a three-part exploration of the 2001 case where Andrea Yates drowned her five children in the family bathtub. While previous coverage focused heavily on her postpartum psychosis, this documentary primarily investigates the influence of a controversial street preacher named Michael Woroniecki and his teachings on the Yates family. Reality Life with Kate Casey What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=en Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon List: https://www.amazon.com/shop/katecasey Like it to Know It: https://www.shopltk.com/explore/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This episode contains in depth discussion of infanticide, postpartum psychosis, suicide, and severe mental illness. Listener discretion is advised.In 2001, Andrea Yates drowned her five children in a case that shocked the nation and was quickly labeled as one of the most horrific crimes in American history. But what if the story most people remember is incomplete?In this episode of When Killers Get Caught, host Brittany Ransom revisits the Andrea Yates case with updated medical, legal, and psychological context focusing not on shock value, but on what the system missed before the tragedy ever occurred.Andrea Yates suffered from severe postpartum psychosis, a rare but life-threatening psychiatric condition that causes hallucinations, delusions, and a complete break from reality. She had a long, documented history of mental illness, multiple hospitalizations, suicide attempts, and explicit medical warnings not to be left alone, not to stop medication, and not to have more children. Those warnings were ignored.This episode breaks down:The warning signs of postpartum psychosis and why it is a psychiatric emergencyHow religious extremism and untreated mental illness collidedWhy Andrea Yates's first trial resulted in a wrongful convictionHow misinformation in court influenced a juryWhat changed after her acquittal by reason of insanity and what still hasn'tWhy women with postpartum psychosis are still more likely to be incarcerated than treatedMore than two decades later, Andrea Yates remains confined to a state psychiatric hospital. Her case is now taught in medical schools and cited in maternal mental health advocacy yet many of the same systemic failures remain.This is not a story about a monster. It's a story about untreated illness, institutional failure, and a tragedy that unfolded in plain sight.Because when systems fail, the truth always leaves a trail.Follow and join the conversation:
Henry & Eddie bring you this week's thickest stories and true crime news - Pennsylvania Police find ‘horror movie' of stolen bones in infamous graverobber's basement, Henry reacts to new Andrea Yates documentary, California father convicted of killing five infant children over the span of a decade, US allegedly uses sonic weapons in Venezuelan takeover, The Epstein-Trump Saga continues, Easily the most upsetting Dog Toy company you've ever heard of, and much, much more... For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Anybody who knows true crime or was born before the year 1995 remembers this heartbreaking story. But not everybody remembers the reason Andrea Yates's post-partum depression escalated to the point of killing her young children. We dig into this story on this week's episode. And , as usual, there's plenty of rabbit trailing to be had!_____________________________• Rate and review us if love what you hear! • If you want MORE of our nonsense, join us over on www.patreon.com/onthedoc! We have loads of extra content over there and are building a fun community that we want YOU to be a part of! • Don't forget, we want to hear from you! Drop us a line, and let's get social: • Email: info@onthedoc.com • Facebook: facebook.com/onthedocpodcast • Website: www.onthedoc.comWe LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear from you!#andreayates#truecrime#womeninpodcasting#hbo#hbomax
The FBI and local police are searching for a fifteen-year-old Washington state girl after she vanished weeks ago and later appeared in a social media video falsely claiming she is an adult and not missing. Andrea Yates’ ex-husband says he does not blame her for the drowning deaths of their five children, describing her instead as a loving person who was overwhelmed by severe mental illness. Drew Nelson reports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this week's episode of Pop Culture and Fandom News, Carla from Ok, Real Quick and Sara join Erin to discuss Song Sung Blue, The Cult of Andrea Yates, Primate, Regretting You, and the trailer for They Will Kill You. Plus, the panel talks about when fans cross the line and why you're never too old for fandom. Trigger warnings for discussions about child abuse/neglect, religious trauma, and stalking. You can watch theThey Will Kill You trailer here: https://youtu.be/E7XedjzKO4Y?si=DdsWJcHs8wtxWBshLink to TikTok mentioned: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThLpPaQM/You can follow us on Letterboxd at: https://letterboxd.com/itsafandomthing/Consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/itsafandomthingpod.For links to our social media, visit our website: https://itsafandomthingpod.com/Discord: https://discord.com/invite/7aTTCAWZRxYou can follow Fergie on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@schroederandfergsCover art by Carla Temis.Podcast logo by Erin Amos.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Erin and Autumn delve into two harrowing true crime cases: the tragic story of Andrea Yates, a mother who suffered from severe postpartum psychosis, and the chilling Snowtown murders, where a group of men committed horrific acts of violence under the guise of vigilantism. The conversation explores the complexities of mental illness, societal expectations, and the manipulation that can lead to devastating outcomes. Through these narratives, the hosts emphasize the importance of understanding mental health and the need for support systems to prevent such tragedies.Chapters00:00 Welcome to 2026: A New Year of True Crime02:49 The Andrea Yates Case: A Tragic Story of Mental Illness35:01 The Snowtown Murders: A Tale of Horror and ManipulationKeywordstrue crime, Andrea Yates, Snowtown murders, mental health, postpartum psychosis, serial killers, crime podcast, murder cases, psychological horror, criminal justice
Andrea Yates drowned her five young children in her Texas home, a crime that stunned the nation and raised enduring questions about mental illness, culpability, and the limits of the justice system. Now, a new Investigation Discovery docuseries, The Cult Behind the Killer: The Andrea Yates Story, examines whether fear-based religious teachings may have influenced Yates during a period of severe postpartum psychosis. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy breaks down the documentary's claims with Wendell Odom, one of the attorneys who represented Yates at trial, to examine what really happened — and what may still be misunderstood — in this episode of Crime Fix — a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.Host:Angenette Levy https://twitter.com/Angenette5Guest: Wendell OdomCRIME FIX PRODUCTION:Head of Social Media, YouTube - Bobby SzokeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinVideo Editing - Daniel CamachoGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This HBO documentary follows the Andrea Yates case, exploring how rogue street preacher Michael Woroniecki's fire-and-brimstone teachings brought the vulnerable Texas mother under his control, leading to the drowning of her five children in 2001.We have a PATREON! click on link below to check out the extra content.PatreonPlease SUBSCRIBE to the podcast and give us a 5-star review.We are on Instagram and TikTok @psychlegalpopEmail: psychlegalpoppodcast@gmail.com Check out our YouTube Channel!#thecultbehindthekillertheandreayatesstory #andreayates #rustyyates #michaelworoniecki #cult #michaelworoncult #mosesstorm #psychology #attorney #therapist #law #lawyer #popculture #popularculture #truecrime #truecrimeandreayates #truecrimedocumentary #documentary #andreayatestrial #attorneyonandreayates #therapistonandreayates #hbodocumentaries #hboandreayates Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
TW: Explizite Gewaltdarstellung, Gewalt an Kindern, postpartale Depression In dieser Folge tauchen Meli und Phuxi tief ein in einen der erschütterndsten Fälle der US-Kriminalgeschichte: Andrea Yates, die fünffache Mutter, die im Jahr 2001 ihre Kinder ertränkte – überzeugt davon, sie vor etwas weitaus Schlimmerem bewahren zu müssen. War es Wahnsinn? Paranoide Angst? Fanatische Überzeugung? Oder ein tragisches Zusammenspiel aus psychischer Erkrankung, gesellschaftlichem Druck und fatalen Fehlentscheidungen im Gesundheitssystem? Phuxi zeichnet den Weg nach, der zu dieser unvorstellbaren Tat führte: von schweren postpartalen Depressionen über religiös aufgeladene Wahnvorstellungen bis hin zu Momenten, in denen alle Warnsignale übersehen wurden. Dabei beleuchten sie nicht nur die Tat selbst, sondern auch den aufsehenerregenden Prozess, die medizinischen Hintergründe und die Frage, ob dieser Fall anders hätte enden können. Euch gefällt unser Podcast und ihr wollt uns unterstützen? Dann gebt uns gerne einen Kaffee aus: ko-fi.com/tellmemordpodcast Folgt uns gerne auch auf Instagram (@tellmemordpodcast) für mehr Content zu den Fällen! +++ Alle Infos zu unseren Werbepartnern & Rabattcodes unter: https://linktr.ee/tellmemordpodcast
In this episode of Get Psyched, we're joined by one of the most influential figures in forensic psychiatry—Dr. Phillip Resnick, Professor of Psychiatry at Case Western Reserve University and Director of the Division of Forensic Psychiatry at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center.Dr. Resnick has consulted on many nationally recognized cases, including those of Jeffrey Dahmer, Theodore Kaczynski, and Andrea Yates, and is widely regarded as an authority on the insanity defense, malingering, filicide, and violence risk assessment. With over 200 publications and decades of experience teaching around the world, he has helped shape the modern practice of forensic psychiatry.Join us as Dr. Resnick shares how he found his path into psychiatry, what it's like to evaluate defendants in high-profile criminal cases, and how forensic psychiatrists balance science, ethics, and the law. He also offers invaluable insights for trainees interested in this fascinating subspecialty—and reflects on the lessons, challenges, and meaning he's found over the course of his remarkable career.Whether you're a medical student, psychiatry trainee, or simply curious about the intersection of mental health and the law, this conversation offers a rare glimpse into the mind of one of the field's true pioneers.Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/cruen/city-streetsLicense code: 2JJVCBQKEE2GJH5N
Timestamp to start the case: (13:23) In April 1993, Andrea and Russell ‘Rusty' Yates were married. They told friends and family that they wanted to ‘have as many babies as nature allowed.' Between 1995 and 2000, the couple had five children - four sons and a daughter. Andrea struggled with her mental health. After the birth of their fourth child, Andrea was hospitalized and the couple were advised to not have any more children. Andrea's doctor said that any more births would "guarantee future psychotic depression." Despite this, the couple had a fifth child and Andrea's mental health decline continued. She stopped taking all of her medication, she mutilated and cut herself, read the Bible obsessively and also stopped feeding the children. Rusty had been advised to not leave Andrea alone with the children. Despite this, one morning in June 2001, Rusty left Andrea and the kids so that he could go to work. His mother was scheduled to arrive at the home one hour after he left. In that hour, Andrea filled the bathtub and drowned all five of her children - they were aged between 7 months old and 7 years old at the time. When police arrived at the home, Andrea was standing soaking wet in front of the house. “I just killed my children,” she told the officers. Be sure to check the timestamps to get straight to the crime content. Read our blog for this case here Be sure to follow us on Instagram for the latest crime news - Instagram.com/truecrimesociety Join us on Patreon for weekly exclusive content. All podcast episodes are available ad-free - Patreon.com/truecrimesociety
Retired FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong delves into the heartbreaking case of Andrea Yates. On a summer morning in 2001, inside the quiet Houston home she shared with her family, Andrea systematically drowned her five young children in the bathtub. Candice examines how untreated postpartum psychosis, religious delusions and years of mental health warnings culminated in this unimaginable act. She explores how a devoted mother became the architect of a tragedy that shocked the nation; and, how systemic failures left Andrea teetering on the edge until it was far too late.Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterNeed more Killer Psyche? With Wondery+, enjoy exclusive episodes, early access to new ones, and they're always ad-free. Start your free trial in the Wondery App or visit wondery.app.link/TI5l5KzpDLb now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
When a schoolteacher's borrowed BBC computer began displaying mysterious messages from a 16th-century scholar and beings from the year 2109, it sparked one of England's most bewildering paranormal cases.Join the DARKNESS SYNDICATE: https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateIN THIS EPISODE: In Victorian London, a grisly murder case involving Maria and Frederick Manning shocked society and caught the attention of Charles Dickens himself. What began as a love triangle turned into a chilling tale of greed, betrayal, and murder, culminating in a public execution that would challenge the very nature of capital punishment in Great Britain. (The Murderous Mannings) *** In 1720, amidst a perilous pirate attack on the Atlantic, a newborn's cry changed the course of destiny. Ocean-Born Mary, christened by buccaneers and gifted with a bolt of green silk, would grow from a maritime legend into a symbol of courage and resilience in colonial New England, her extraordinary birth weaving a tapestry of fact and fiction that continues to captivate imaginations centuries later. (A Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary) *** On the morning of June 20, 2001, Andrea Yates shocked the nation by drowning her five children, one by one, in the family bathtub. Years of untreated mental illness, compounded by religious fanaticism and postpartum psychosis, culminated in this unimaginable tragedy. Was it the work of a tortured mind, or something darker at play? (Did The Devil Make Her Do It?) *** Deep in the ancient folds of the Appalachian Mountains, where time seems to slow and shadows linger, legends have taken root for millennia. These peaks have become a breeding ground for supernatural tales that blend seamlessly with the landscape. The sheer age and untamed nature of Appalachia have given birth to a rich tapestry of myths, from the Mothman, to ghosts, to the Devil himself. (Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia) *** In the heart of Preston, Ladywell Street is infamous for a chilling spectral presence capable of shifting forms—from eerie footsteps to a blood-soaked apparition known as the Bannister Doll. Once a beautiful young woman, Dolly Bannister met a tragic death at the hands of her father, a punishment for a crime she didn't commit. Now, her restless spirit seeks retribution, haunting the streets and striking fear into anyone who dares to cross her path. (The Haunting of Ladywell Street) *** In 1984, a sleepy English village became the unlikely stage for a mind-bending mystery when a schoolteacher's computer began receiving messages from a man claiming to be from 1546. As past and present collided through a BBC Micro, Ken Webster and his friends found themselves entangled in a web of Tudor English, future prophecies, and inexplicable phenomena that would challenge everything they thought they knew about time and technology. (Ctrl+Alt+1546: The Dodleston Messages Mystery)ABOUT WEIRD DARKNESS: Weird Darkness is a true crime and paranormal podcast narrated by professional award-winning voice actor, Darren Marlar. Seven days per week, Weird Darkness focuses on all thing strange and macabre such as haunted locations, unsolved mysteries, true ghost stories, supernatural manifestations, urban legends, unsolved or cold case murders, conspiracy theories, and more. On Thursdays, this scary stories podcast features horror fiction along with the occasional creepypasta. Weird Darkness has been named one of the “Best 20 Storytellers in Podcasting” by Podcast Business Journal. Listeners have described the show as a cross between “Coast to Coast” with Art Bell, “The Twilight Zone” with Rod Serling, “Unsolved Mysteries” with Robert Stack, and “In Search Of” with Leonard Nimoy.DISCLAIMER: Ads heard during the podcast that are not in my voice are placed by third party agencies outside of my control and should not imply an endorsement by Weird Darkness or myself. *** Stories and content in Weird Darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised.CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Lead-In00:01:33.391 = Show Open00:05:27.341 = The Dodleston Messages Mystery00:27:16.141 = The Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary00:32:01.707 = The Murderous Mannings00:41:10.624 = Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia00:48:42.848 = Did The Devil Make Her Do It?00:59:28.888 = The Haunting of Ladywell Street01:03:06.047 = Show CloseSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…BOOK: “The Vertical Plane” by Ken Webster: https://amzn.to/4drgdH4“Ctrl+Alt+1546: The Dodleston Messages Mystery” source: Tony Walker, Medium: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/3pf7strv“The Murderous Mannings” source: Alexa Baczak, Medium: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8a6sta“The Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary” sources: NewEngland.com: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/bdvz9by6; Sea Coast NH: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/3jy3bc3r; New England Historical Society:https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p84pzrn“The Haunting of Ladywell Street” source: The Lancashire Post: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yckypttt; Deborah Contessa: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8zkern“Did The Devil Make Her Do It?” by Troy Taylor (used with permission): https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/swtmdth7“Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia” source: National Geographic: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yckjkbaw=====(Over time links may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: September 27, 2024NOTE: Some of this content may have been created with assistance from AI tools, but it has been reviewed, edited, narrated, produced, and approved by Darren Marlar, creator and host of Weird Darkness — who, despite popular conspiracy theories, is NOT an AI voice.EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/DodlestonMessages
Andrea Yates: One of the most well known trial where a perpetrator was found not guilty by reasoning of insanity rocked US headlines for years. Join Patrick for a brief overview of her trial and a glimpse into how this method of defense is viewed by the world's public. **Disclaimer: The audio is poor. Please forgive us this week! :)
Send us a textThis week we're going back to Texas for 5 more stories from the most prideful state in the country. We're covering the lives of Marshall Ratliff, Andrea Yates, George Pickering, Kenneth McDuff, and Steven Russell.Like the show on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/OurWeirdWorldPod/Follow John on Twitter and Instagram @TheJohnHinsonFollow the show on Instagram @OurWeirdWorldPodWant more John? Everyone wants more John. Visit www.johnhinsonwrites.com for all the books, podcasts, waterfalls, and more!Persons of InterestFrom murderers to money launderers, thieves to thugs – police officers from the...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify
Postpartum psychosis. Satanic visions. A chilling 911 call. In 2001, Andrea Yates shocked the world by drowning her five children. This is the harrowing story of mental illness and unimaginable tragedy. Sponsors: wildgrain.com/casual - $30 off the first box plus free croissants in every box shopify.com/casual - start your $1 per month trial period Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode we go over the months of October, November and December of 2008. From the grand jury hearing to a terrible discovery this was a crucial period for both the prosecution and defense.Then while the prosecution pushes for a murder charge we go over other infamous cases of missing and murdered children, and their mothers- Jon Benet Ramsey and the 911 call, Dingos ate my baby becoming a joke, Melissa Lucio and the death penalty, Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Darlie Routier, accidental deaths and everything else that comes along with being one of these moms in the media.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/broads-next-door--5803223/support.
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[TW: This episode contains mentions of SA, child harm & death.] This week Kail sits down with highly accredited long time legal analysis Beth Karas! Beth covers high-profile criminal cases. Her reporting and analysis have appeared on ID channel, Max, ABC's 20/20, Dateline, Nightline and more! This was such an exciting interview, Beth gave us into cases like Scott Peterson, Casey Anthony, Andrea Yates and more. We learn about Beth's latest ID show airing exclusively on Max; The Curious Case Of. Beth deep dives into various cases that still need answers like Jodi Hildebrandt's, Preacher Sheryl Ruthven & more like a crematorium that didn't quite deliver what they promised on the show! This episode is a true crime fan's dream. For more of Beth check out The Curious Case Of exclusively on Max and visit her website here! Thanks for supporting the show by checking out our sponsors! Happy Mammoth: get 15% off your first order at happymammoth.com just use thecod e FAMOUS at checkout. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Shopify: Start your one dollar a month free trial period at shopify.com/famous Search for your newest home on apartments.com
This is the story of Andrea Yates and the debilitating effects of postpartum depression in the digital age. The Greatest True Crime Stories is a production of Diversion Audio.• Follow Diversion Audio on Instagram • Explore more: diversionaudio.com This series is hosted by Mary Kay McBrayer. Check out more of her work at www.marykaymcbrayer.com.This episode was written by Mary Kay McBrayerDeveloped by Scott Waxman, Emma DeMuth, and Jacob Bronstein Associate Producer is Leo CulpProduced by Antonio EnriquezTheme Music by Tyler CashExecutive Produced by Scott Waxman and Emma DeMuthSpecial thanks to:Carter, Stephen L.. Invisible. Henry Holt and Co.. Kindle Edition. Order Suzy Spencer's book 'Breaking Point' here for a deeper dive into Andrea Yates Pre-order Mary Kay's forthcoming true crime book 'Madame Queen: The The Life and Crimes of Harlem’s Underground Racketeer, Stephanie St. Clair' hereSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hoy te traigo el desgarrador caso de Andrea Yates, la madre de Houston que ahogó a sus cinco hijos en 2001 porque se lo "pidió el diablo". Te cuento la verdad de este caso, y lucha de Andrea contra la depresión, la psicosis y los eventos que la llevaron a cometer este crimen de horror.
Content Warning: Postpartum Psychosis, Violence, MurderStrap on your banjos, listeners, we're singing about pain, loss, madness, and pink tampon-slinging Cybertrucks. Becky Poole, actor, comedian, singer, songwriter, and longtime Biz friend and collaborator, sits down to talk about her new podcast and album, both titled The Ballad of Dena & Andrea. They discuss longtime friendship, the history of murder ballads, and the dark and tragic stories of Andrea Yates and Dena Schlosser. It's a fun conversation, we promise.Listen to the podcast of The Ballad of Dena & Andreaon the podcatcher of your choice and listen to the album of The Ballad of Dena & Andrea on your favorite streaming service. Learn more about Becky, her work, her activism, and comedy by following her on Instagram @beckydpoole.Go to MaximumFun.org/join to support One Bad Mother in its final year!Share a personal or commercial message on the show! Details at MaximumFun.org/Jumbotron.Visit our Linktree for our website, merch, and more! https://linktr.ee/onebadmotherYou can suggest a topic or a guest for an upcoming show by sending an email to onebadmother@maximumfun.org.Show MusicSummon the Rawk, Kevin MacLeod (www.incompetech.com)Ones and Zeros, Awesome, Beehive SessionsMom Song, Adira Amram, Hot Jams For TeensTelephone, Awesome, Beehive SessionsMama Blues, Cornbread Ted and the ButterbeansMental Health Resources:Therapy for Black Girls – Therapyforblackgirls.comDr. Jessica Clemmens – https://www.askdrjess.comBLH Foundation – borislhensonfoundation.orgThe Postpartum Support International Warmline – 1-800-944-4773 (1-800-944-4PPD)The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) Helpline – 1-800-662-4357 (1-800-662-HELP)Suicide Prevention Hotline: Call or chat. They are here to help anyone in crisis. Dial 988 for https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org and there is a chat option on the website.Crisis Text Line: Text from anywhere in the USA (also Canada and the UK) to text with a trained counselor. A real human being.USA text 741741Canada text 686868UK text 85258Website: https://www.crisistextline.orgNational Sexual Assault: Call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to be connected with a trained staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area.https://www.rainn.orgNational Domestic Violence Hotline:https://www.thehotline.org/help/Our advocates are available 24/7 at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) in more than 200 languages. All calls are free and confidential.They suggest that if you are a victim and cannot seek help, ask a friend or family member to call for you.Teletherapy Search: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling
In today's episode, we examine the disturbing crimes of Andrea Yates, one of the most infamous mothers in American history. In 2001, a brutal crime rocked a suburb of Houston, Texas. A mother had snapped and drowned 5 of her children in the bathtub of her home. But her backstory and the lead up to the crime runs deeper than one could ever have possibly imagined. - Listen to our new show, "THE CONSPIRACY FILES"!: -Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5IY9nWD2MYDzlSYP48nRPl -Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/id1752719844 -Amazon/Audible - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ab1ade99-740c-46ae-8028-b2cf41eabf58/the-conspiracy-files -Pandora - https://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/PC:1001089101 -iHeart - https://iheart.com/podcast/186907423/ -PocketCast - https://pca.st/dpdyrcca -CastBox - https://castbox.fm/channel/id6193084?country=us - Stay Connected: Join the Murder in America fam in our free Facebook Community for a behind-the-scenes look, more insights and current events in the true crime world: https://www.facebook.com/groups/4365229996855701 If you want even more Murder in America bonus content, including ad-free episodes, come join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderinamerica Instagram: http://instagram.com/murderinamerica/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/people/Murder-in-America-Podcast/100086268848682/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderInAmerica TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theparanormalfiles and https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneybrowen Feeling spooky? Follow Colin as he travels state to state (and even country to country!) investigating claims of extreme paranormal activity and visiting famous haunted locations on The Paranormal Files Official Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheParanormalFilesOfficialChannel - (c) BLOOD IN THE SINK PRODUCTIONS 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In today's episode, we examine the disturbing crimes of Andrea Yates, one of the most infamous mothers in American history. In 2001, a brutal crime rocked a suburb of Houston, Texas. A mother had snapped and drowned 5 of her children in the bathtub of her home. But her backstory and the lead up to the crime runs deeper than one could ever have possibly imagined. - Listen to our new show, "THE CONSPIRACY FILES"!: -Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5IY9nWD2MYDzlSYP48nRPl -Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/id1752719844 -Amazon/Audible - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ab1ade99-740c-46ae-8028-b2cf41eabf58/the-conspiracy-files -Pandora - https://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/PC:1001089101 -iHeart - https://iheart.com/podcast/186907423/ -PocketCast - https://pca.st/dpdyrcca -CastBox - https://castbox.fm/channel/id6193084?country=us - Stay Connected: Join the Murder in America fam in our free Facebook Community for a behind-the-scenes look, more insights and current events in the true crime world: https://www.facebook.com/groups/4365229996855701 If you want even more Murder in America bonus content, including ad-free episodes, come join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderinamerica Instagram: http://instagram.com/murderinamerica/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/people/Murder-in-America-Podcast/100086268848682/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderInAmerica TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theparanormalfiles and https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneybrowen Feeling spooky? Follow Colin as he travels state to state (and even country to country!) investigating claims of extreme paranormal activity and visiting famous haunted locations on The Paranormal Files Official Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheParanormalFilesOfficialChannel - (c) BLOOD IN THE SINK PRODUCTIONS 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's going to be fun for baby Goldie to grow up in a house with two brilliant comics. Casey has one crazy story after another, including that time she learned she was pregnant. She gives us the skinny on matchmaking services--don't use them. The worst mom of the week is more horrific than Andrea Yates. Stay for the final story--you'll feel smart. Don't miss my Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bergreenkaren/ Check out my new podcast SHUT UP MOMMY"S TALKING! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shut-up-mommys-talking/id1553303853
True Crime Tuesday presents Killer Moms: True Stories with Researcher/Author. Amanda R. Woomer! A mother is supposed to be loving, protective, caring, and kind. She's supposed to nurture and guide her children from infancy into childhood and adolescence. The very thought of murdering a child—much less their own child—is not only bizarre but perhaps the most disturbing thought a parent could have! Exploring the ultimate betrayal of a mother's duty, Killer Moms: True Stories recounts 31 harrowing tales of motherhood gone wrong, including … Rachel David, who believed she was married to God. Andrea Yates, who systemically executed each of her five children by drowning them. Magda Goebbels, one of the most powerful women in Nazi Germany, the propaganda minister's wife and a Hitler favorite. The ambiguous Casey Anthony case, whose acquittal shocked the public. Melissa Drexler, aka “The Prom Mom,” who hid her pregnancy from everyone. Rosemary West, one of England's most notorious serial killers. Lindsey Nicole Blansett, whose solution to ensuring her children wouldn't suffer in the future was to make sure they did not have a future. Nannie Doss, the “Giggling Granny,” who managed to murder four generations of her family in a killing spree that lasted 30 years. Angela Camacho, who helped her husband murder her three young children because he believed they were possessed by witches. On today's Show, Amanda R. Woomer, Author of Killer Moms: True Stories joins us to talk about why women have not only more parental and societal pressures put upon them, but why those pressures then force them to turn on their own children. We talk about specific cases as well as motives for murdering their children! Get your copy of " Killer Moms: True Stories" here: https://visibleinkpress.com/t243/Killer-Moms-True-Stories Find out more about Amanda here: https://spookeats.com/ PLUS AN ALL NEW DUMB CRIMES/STUPID CRIMINALS WITH JESSICA FREEBURG! Check out the video of the machete fight in England here: https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/17/machete-fight-breaks-front-children-packed-london-high-street-21818187/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark Check out Jessica Freeburg's website and order her new books: https://jessicafreeburg.com/books/ Sign up for the Ghost Stories Inc. Paranormal Events and save 20 percent off the ticket price by using the code: DARKNESS20 here: https://jessicafreeburg.com/upcoming-events/ There are new and different (and really cool) items all the time in the Darkness Radio Online store at our website! . check out the Darkness Radio Store! https://www.darknessradioshow.com/store/ #crime #truecrime #truecrimepodcasts #truecrimetuesday #killermomstruestories #amandarwoomer #caseyanthony #melissadrexler #prommom #magdagoebbels #leonardacianciulli #thesoapmakerofcorreggio #infanticide #filicide #murder #dumbcrimesstupidcriminals #TimDennis #jessicafreeburg #paranormalauthor #massshooting #shootings #murder #dismemberment #larceny #drugsmuggling #bribery #floridaman #publicsex #verbalthreats #terrorism #britishmachetefight #sexcrimes #ltdanfloridaman
True Crime Tuesday presents Killer Moms: True Stories with Researcher/Author. Amanda R. Woomer! A mother is supposed to be loving, protective, caring, and kind. She's supposed to nurture and guide her children from infancy into childhood and adolescence. The very thought of murdering a child—much less their own child—is not only bizarre but perhaps the most disturbing thought a parent could have! Exploring the ultimate betrayal of a mother's duty, Killer Moms: True Stories recounts 31 harrowing tales of motherhood gone wrong, including … Rachel David, who believed she was married to God. Andrea Yates, who systemically executed each of her five children by drowning them. Magda Goebbels, one of the most powerful women in Nazi Germany, the propaganda minister's wife and a Hitler favorite. The ambiguous Casey Anthony case, whose acquittal shocked the public. Melissa Drexler, aka “The Prom Mom,” who hid her pregnancy from everyone. Rosemary West, one of England's most notorious serial killers. Lindsey Nicole Blansett, whose solution to ensuring her children wouldn't suffer in the future was to make sure they did not have a future. Nannie Doss, the “Giggling Granny,” who managed to murder four generations of her family in a killing spree that lasted 30 years. Angela Camacho, who helped her husband murder her three young children because he believed they were possessed by witches. On today's Show, Amanda R. Woomer, Author of Killer Moms: True Stories joins us to talk about why women have not only more parental and societal pressures put upon them, but why those pressures then force them to turn on their own children. We talk about specific cases as well as motives for murdering their children! Get your copy of " Killer Moms: True Stories" here: https://visibleinkpress.com/t243/Killer-Moms-True-Stories Find out more about Amanda here: https://spookeats.com/ PLUS AN ALL NEW DUMB CRIMES/STUPID CRIMINALS WITH JESSICA FREEBURG! Check out the video of the machete fight in England here: https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/17/machete-fight-breaks-front-children-packed-london-high-street-21818187/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark Check out Jessica Freeburg's website and order her new books: https://jessicafreeburg.com/books/ Sign up for the Ghost Stories Inc. Paranormal Events and save 20 percent off the ticket price by using the code: DARKNESS20 here: https://jessicafreeburg.com/upcoming-events/ There are new and different (and really cool) items all the time in the Darkness Radio Online store at our website! . check out the Darkness Radio Store! https://www.darknessradioshow.com/store/ #crime #truecrime #truecrimepodcasts #truecrimetuesday #killermomstruestories #amandarwoomer #caseyanthony #melissadrexler #prommom #magdagoebbels #leonardacianciulli #thesoapmakerofcorreggio #infanticide #filicide #murder #dumbcrimesstupidcriminals #TimDennis #jessicafreeburg #paranormalauthor #massshooting #shootings #murder #dismemberment #larceny #drugsmuggling #bribery #floridaman #publicsex #verbalthreats #terrorism #britishmachetefight #sexcrimes #ltdanfloridaman
Weird Darkness is narrated by professional full-time voice actor Darren Marlar. No A.I. voices are ever used in the show. Darkness Syndicate members get the ad-free version with all artwork created for the YouTube and podcast thumbnails: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/ycknd7s5IN THIS EPISODE: In Victorian London, a grisly murder case involving Maria and Frederick Manning shocked society and caught the attention of Charles Dickens himself. What began as a love triangle turned into a chilling tale of greed, betrayal, and murder, culminating in a public execution that would challenge the very nature of capital punishment in Great Britain. (The Murderous Mannings) *** In 1720, amidst a perilous pirate attack on the Atlantic, a newborn's cry changed the course of destiny. Ocean-Born Mary, christened by buccaneers and gifted with a bolt of green silk, would grow from a maritime legend into a symbol of courage and resilience in colonial New England, her extraordinary birth weaving a tapestry of fact and fiction that continues to captivate imaginations centuries later. (A Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary) *** On the morning of June 20, 2001, Andrea Yates shocked the nation by drowning her five children, one by one, in the family bathtub. Years of untreated mental illness, compounded by religious fanaticism and postpartum psychosis, culminated in this unimaginable tragedy. Was it the work of a tortured mind, or something darker at play? (Did The Devil Make Her Do It?) *** Deep in the ancient folds of the Appalachian Mountains, where time seems to slow and shadows linger, legends have taken root for millennia. These peaks have become a breeding ground for supernatural tales that blend seamlessly with the landscape. The sheer age and untamed nature of Appalachia have given birth to a rich tapestry of myths, from the Mothman, to ghosts, to the Devil himself. (Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia) *** In the heart of Preston, Ladywell Street is infamous for a chilling spectral presence capable of shifting forms—from eerie footsteps to a blood-soaked apparition known as the Bannister Doll. Once a beautiful young woman, Dolly Bannister met a tragic death at the hands of her father, a punishment for a crime she didn't commit. Now, her restless spirit seeks retribution, haunting the streets and striking fear into anyone who dares to cross her path. (The Haunting of Ladywell Street) *** In 1984, a sleepy English village became the unlikely stage for a mind-bending mystery when a schoolteacher's computer began receiving messages from a man claiming to be from 1546. As past and present collided through a BBC Micro, Ken Webster and his friends found themselves entangled in a web of Tudor English, future prophecies, and inexplicable phenomena that would challenge everything they thought they knew about time and technology. (Ctrl+Alt+1546: The Dodleston Messages Mystery)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Cold Open & Show Intro00:06:14:000 = The Dodleston Messages Mystery00:29:39.831 = The Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary00:34:22.383 = The Murderous Mannings00:45:21.991 = Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia00:52:52.462 = Did The Devil Make Her Do It?01:04:53.693 = The Haunting of Ladywell Street01:08:28.296 = Show CloseSOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…BOOK: “The Vertical Plane” by Ken Webster: https://amzn.to/4drgdH4“Ctrl+Alt+1546: The Dodleston Messages Mystery” source: Tony Walker, Medium: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/3pf7strv“The Murderous Mannings” source: Alexa Baczak, Medium: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8a6sta“The Pirate's Godchild, Ocean-Born Mary” sources: NewEngland.com: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/bdvz9by6; Sea Coast NH: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/3jy3bc3r; New England Historical Society:https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p84pzrn“The Haunting of Ladywell Street” source: The Lancashire Post: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yckypttt; Deborah Contessa: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8zkern“Did The Devil Make Her Do It?” by Troy Taylor (used with permission): https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/swtmdth7“Modern Mythology and Ancient Appalachia” source: National Geographic: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yckjkbawWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library= = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: September 27, 2024CUSTOM LANDING PAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/DodlestonMessages
The latest in the Delphi murder hearings, Richard Allen to be moved from prison. Convicted baby killer Andrea Yates is up for release.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Send us a Text Message.This week, Amanda and Lauren cover the murder of Nicholas Markowitz at the hand of his half brother's ex-best friend, Jesse James Hollywood. Sources:All That's Interesting: "The Disturbing Story Of Nicholas Markowitz, The Teenager Who Was Murdered Over His Brother's Drug Debt" by Marco Margaritoff Santa Barbara Independent: "Prosecutor Okayed for Jesse James Hollywood Trial" by Chris MeagherSanta Barbara Independent: "Hollywood Jury Deliberating" by Chris MeagherSanta Barbara Independent: "Verdict In: Hollywood Guilty of Murder and Kidnapping" by Chris MeagherCrime Library: "Jesse James Hollywood" by Julia ScheeresLos Angeles Times: "Jesse James Hollywood found guilty of murder" by Steve ChawkinsLos Angeles Magazine: "The Last Ride of Jesse James Hollywood" by Jesse KatzLet's Go To Court podcast: "Episode 53: Drug Dealer Jesse James Hollywood & Andrea Yates"WikipediaSupport us! There Are No Gays In MontanaComing out can be hard, especially in rural America. There Are No Gays In Montana is...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifyDrink Moment | Moment Botanical WaterDrink your meditation. Use code MOSTWANTEDAMANDA at checkout!Kind CottonConsciously-sourced, inclusive, impactful, kind clothes. Use code AMOSTWANTEDPOD at checkout!Devon + LangLife changing underwear. Use code MOSTWANTEDAMANDA at checkout!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
This week, Koelle talks through a difficult, but very well known case. Join us as we walk through the life, illness and crime of Andrea Yates.Become a patreon member and get exclusive content!Check out FRESH! Meal Plan -> https://www.pntrs.com/t/3-318542-293495-232987Bright Cellars discount code -> https://www.pntrs.com/t/3-309893-293495-162371We love you, YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: (800) 273-8255The Trevor Project: (212) 695-8650 https://www.thetrevorproject.orgSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Woroniecki#Andrea_Yateshttps://culteducation.com/group/1234-michael-woroniecki/22286-a-mysterious-preacher-and-the-childrens-killer.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-mar-01-mn-30487-story.htmlhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69789-4/fulltexthttps://www.oprah.com/omagazine/andrea-yates-a-cry-in-the-dark/allhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#Divorcehttps://www.people.vcu.edu/~dbromley/andreayatesLink.htm**DISCLAIMER: Kenna and Koelle are not licensed to diagnose individuals. The mental illnesses discussed in episodes are either diagnosed by a psychiatrist or psychologist or are purely speculation by the hosts.**
New episodes of SINISTER return next week! Today we're going back to one of our early Sinister stories from YouTube: The Andrea Yates case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today is true crime Thursday. With mental health awareness month coming to a close Brian and Ashley discuss the crimes committed by Andrea Yates.
The tragedy that struck the Yates family is one that would change the way medical professionals see postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. Andrea Yates had struggled with her mental health since she was a teenager. She suffered even more after giving birth to five children back-to-back. There were plenty cries for help from her to her husband and medical professionals. But who failed Andrea? Was it her husband, doctors, or a preacher with radial religious beliefs that brainwashed her? How did she land a “not guilty for reason of insanity” verdict? Many could argue that Andrea herself was also a victim. However, many believe that her “the devil made me do it” confession is total BS. Join us on this heartbreaking and bone chilling episode. You may not agree with what our take on this case is, but ultimately the true victims are the five innocent Yates children. We apologize in advanced for the sound of chirping birds in the background!
On June 20th, 2001, former high school valedictorian, captain of the swim team, and registered nurse, Andrea Yates, coldly drowned all five of her children in a bathtub. Is she a monster.... or also a tragic victim? We explore the intersection of murder and mental illness on this heavy bonus episode. WATCH THIS EPISODE: https://youtu.be/pb7wmFLBstYFor Merch and everything else Bad Magic related, head to: https://www.badmagicproductions.com
Nobody can imagine why seemingly loving, devoted mothers would ever harm their own flesh and blood. But more than 200 women a year kill their children in the United States. The shocking and unimaginable crimes of child-killers have gripped the nation for decades, So why not talk about it for Mothers day! Follow all the madness on social media! Support us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/strangebrewpodcast www.strangebrewpodcast.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@strangebrewpodcast Strange brew's INSTAGRAM: www.instagram.com/strangebrewpodcast Strange brew's FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/strangebrewpod TOMCAT- https://www.instagram.com/raptiliantom The Raptilian MUSIC Spotify | https://spotify.link/53DbgdUSmDb Youtube | https://youtube.com/@raptiliantom
In this Mother's Day episode, Holidays After Dark investigates the infamous cases of Diane Downs, Susan Smith, and Andrea Yates...all of whom killed their own children. Content warning: This episode discusses themes of violence and disturbing content. Email your holiday stories to kristin@holidaysafterdark.com. Follow on Twitter and Instagram: @holidayspodcast Like on Facebook: Holidays After Dark Buy a Simulockrum Lock Picking Game here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/TemporalTravels?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1520054429&from_page=listing This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/holidaysafterdark. Special thanks to Night Owl Productions for producing and editing the podcast!
*Part Two* **Trigger warning for everyone again: I will be covering child death, mental illness including depression, post partum depression, post partum psychosis, eating disorders, and suicide.** Join Kendra as she dives into and tells April the tragic ending of the Andrea Yates Case. If you haven't listened to our last episode, which is part one, please stop and go listen to that first because the background given in it is really important. We left Andrea just as she had had her 4th baby, in about as many years, and she immediately starts to struggle mentally with postpartum depression, she attempts to get the help she can from everyone around her, and some very much do try to help her, others… not so much. Rapidly, her mental, physical, and emotional state begins to unravel as postpartum psychosis emerges, and she starts to slips out of OUR reality and into HERS. Which all leads to an utter horrific tragedy. Resources for anyone affected by or needing help with PPD (Postpartum Depression) or PPP (Postpartum Psychosis) or ANY OTHER Mental Health Crisis: **If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call the emergency number for your country (ex. In the United States it would be 911, in the UK it's 999, etc)** In the UK: https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/post-partum-psychosis/#:~:text=You%20can%20call%20111%20if,risk%20of%20developing%20postpartum%20psychosi International info to helplines and support groups from Postpartum Support International: https://www.postpartum.net/learn-more/postpartum-psychosis/resources/#toggle-id-4 Info and stats on PPP: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24152-postpartum-psychosis Psycom List of Hotlines/Websites for Mental Health Crisis Help for 16 countries: https://www.psycom.net/get-help-mental-health Case Resources: Emma Kenny: https://youtu.be/T5yf7eTQKqc?si=MAPVuSqW7u0V2ftP Christina Randall: https://youtu.be/lNprmmOJfTY?si=lx5MU3y2__oD1UJi Dr. Todd Grande: https://youtu.be/2bcgyeKHeV8?si=s2gTqqCWt5EM6__V BOZE vs. THE WORLD: https://youtu.be/M43Ep9Fd38A?si=1HmGhe3wOSRFor19 Better Off Red: https://youtu.be/szzy09W3y8c?si=eONm8SRDyT2EaUW1 Email us at: nocturnaldistractions@gmail.com send us a DM on one of the socials, or leave a review for us! just click the link below to find all the listening platforms our pod can be found on, all the socials (FB, IG, etc.) donation page, case request form, and more!: https://linktr.ee/nocturnaldistractionspodcast
What does the insanity defense mean in a court of law? And is there such a thing as temporary insanity? Is the twinkie defense a real thing? Can someone use premenstrual syndrome as a defense? And what does the legal wrestling around insanity tell us about the differences between brains: yours and other people's, or even yours one day and yours the next day? How does law comport with science, and how are they sometimes like two people with quite different ways of looking at the world? Join to find out what happened to Andrea Yates, how the legal system deals with mental illness, and so much more.
*Part One* In June 2001, news broke that rocked the nation to its core. A 36 year old mother had killed all of her children, all five children, the oldest of whom was 7 years old and the youngest a mere 6 months. She drowned them all in the bathtub. What more is there to really say after that right? She's clearly evil, right? Here's the thing though, she wasn't evil, though her act of course would make anyone think of the word ‘Evil', she herself WAS NOT evil. Which is why this is a bonus-ode as it's one I have been wanting to cover for a long time now, because once I learned the REAL story behind this case, my mind switched from thinking this woman was a monster and evil, to realizing that she wasn't evil, she was sick, and she was failed by many different people in her life as she repeatedly asked for help. This is the case of Andrea Yates. Resources for anyone affected by or needing help with PPD (Postpartum Depression) or PPP (Postpartum Psychosis) or ANY OTHER Mental Health Crisis: **If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call the emergency number for your country (ex. In the United States it would be 911, in the UK it's 999, etc)** In the UK: https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/post-partum-psychosis/#:~:text=You%20can%20call%20111%20if,risk%20of%20developing%20postpartum%20psychosi International info to helplines and support groups from Postpartum Support International: https://www.postpartum.net/learn-more/postpartum-psychosis/resources/#toggle-id-4 Info and stats on PPP: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24152-postpartum-psychosis Psycom List of Hotlines/Websites for Mental Health Crisis Help for 16 countries: https://www.psycom.net/get-help-mental-health Case Resources: Emma Kenny: https://youtu.be/T5yf7eTQKqc?si=MAPVuSqW7u0V2ftP Christina Randall: https://youtu.be/lNprmmOJfTY?si=lx5MU3y2__oD1UJi Dr. Todd Grande: https://youtu.be/2bcgyeKHeV8?si=s2gTqqCWt5EM6__V BOZE vs. THE WORLD: https://youtu.be/M43Ep9Fd38A?si=1HmGhe3wOSRFor19 Better Off Red: https://youtu.be/szzy09W3y8c?si=eONm8SRDyT2EaUW1 Email us at: nocturnaldistractions@gmail.com send us a DM on one of the socials, or leave a review for us! just click the link below to find all the listening platforms our pod can be found on, all the socials (FB, IG, etc.) donation page, case request form, and more!: https://linktr.ee/nocturnaldistractionspodcast
Original Air Date: March 20, 2002Russell Yates talks to Oprah about the murders of his five children committed by his then wife Andrea Yates. Russell and his mother Dora discuss Andrea's murder trial, the trial's verdict and how they're coping after the tragedy. Want more podcasts from OWN? Visit https://bit.ly/OWNPodsYou can also watch Oprah's Super Soul, The Oprah Winfrey Show and more of your favorite OWN shows on your TV! Visit https://bit.ly/find_OWN
Ash summarizes the third episode of Shiny Happy People, "Under Authority". In this episode, "Bill Gothard and Jim Bob Duggar grow their shared vision into an international empire on the backs of young people. Unpaid labor, abuse, and threats of retaliation build, until Gothard is finally cut down inside of his own organization. But the roots he put down are now spreading everywhere..." - Amazon PrimeFallon then talks about the Quiverfull movement, a Christian position that sees large families as blessings from God. Andrea Yates, who infamously drowned her children in a bathtub, after repeatedly being told that she needed psychiatric care, and her family were apart of this movement.TW: sexual assault and child sex abuse.-Join us for as little as $5 a month on Patreon!-We have super fun merch, go take a look!-We'd love to see you in our Discord, come hang out!-Audio editing by River Innes.-Sources:https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/books/q-and-a/a41047/growing-up-quiverfull-interview/https://www.npr.org/2009/03/25/102005062/in-quiverfull-movement-birth-control-is-shunned#:~:text=The%20movement%2C%20called%20Quiverfull%2C%20is,the%20right%20number%20of%20children.https://breakingblue.org/3342/uncategorized/the-quiverfull-movement-the-scary-truth/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#cite_note-spencer-25https://web.archive.org/web/20170202131231/http://www.parkdietzassociates.com/files/Report_of_Dr._Park_Dietz_re._Andrea_Yates__2002.pdfhttps://www.ranker.com/list/rules-and-rituals-from-quiverfull-christian-movement/kathy-benjaminhttps://time.com/3918215/modesty-culture-rape-culture/https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/duggar-cult-founder-plans-kansas-retreat-to-set-up-arranged-marriages-for-teen-girls/https://paulwilkinson.wordpress.com/2016/05/09/meet-evangelical-vaughn-ohlman-ranker-coms-worst-person-of-the-week/https://www.salon.com/2016/05/06/arranged_marriages_in_the_u_s_kansas_fundamentalist_group_tied_to_duggars_tries_to_get_teens_hitched/https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a39980043/what-is-quiverfull-our-father/https://www.quiverfull.com/birth_control/dangersofvasectomy.htmlThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4523794/advertisement
This episode continues the conversation with Dianne Berg, author of What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill. In this episode, Nat Cardona and Diane talk about what causes wives and mothers to commit murder and how the public, judicial system and medical fields contribute and/or react to these criminal events. To listen to the first half of the interview with Dianne, click here. To learn more about Dianne Berg, click here. Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Slack and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Welcome to Lee Enterprise's Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. I'm your host Nat Cardona. In this episode, we're continuing the exploration of a niche area of true crime stories, the obsession that fans seem to have with killer wives and mothers. We're back with Diane Berg, a professor at Clark University and author of the article What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill? She is very much an expert on this complex topic. If you haven't listened to the first episode, go back and listen to the first half of my interview, please. Otherwise, we pick up the conversation back up by discussing some causes of what makes mothers and wives kill. I'm a mother myself and I'm, I'm actually pregnant. So I'm gonna have a baby in four weeks. I'm actually pregnant, but I'm having a baby in four weeks. Thank you. So I'm kind of like, you know, going through all these things and, you know, very much in the, you know, what makes me different from these other women who have done this historically or in more recent history. But the thing that comes to mind is there is just something so grabbing about when women do this, because you carry the child for so long and you birth the child and it's so much more intimate than the father who's removed and can kind of clean his hands in the sense of when there is a murder, you can go. You know, and that's because he's not involved. So in the natural process of pregnancy and birth. So, yeah, when there are these women historically or modern day that do this, it's like, well, you know, you just sit there and go, how how could this happen? How could this happen? And you do. The next point I want to get at is the openness nowadays that we have about talking about postpartum depression, because there seems to be a link with that postpartum psychosis. And you mentioned it's Lynsey Clancy who's kind of the most recent with that. So in your research and I is something you mentioned, I just want to clarify. Have you you've seen a difference between, let's say, 20, 30 years ago media coverage and nowadays media coverage of like like just jump into that. Okay. I mean, I kind of want to take those in order, if I may. So, yeah. First, going back to what you were talking about, how okay, when a man does it. Yes, that's terrible and bad and they're they're bad people. But when a woman does it, when a mother does it, especially, there's all this kind of language of the unnatural and the monstrous. And again, going back to, you know, right now, I've been rereading Euripides Medea all week to get ready for this class, because Medea is like the her murderous mother. Right. And a lot of times these these early modern mothers who kill their children, who, as you point out statistically are fewer than men who kill their children. It is then is now like men commit way more domestic violence than women do. But women do it. It gets more attention. And it's because of this unnatural list. Right? Women mothers are supposed to be, as you say, it's the natural process whereby we actually think we incubate the child. And there's a lot of that kind of language of like, how could she like a bloody like a bloody tiger? A tiger wouldn't do a thing like this. A snake wouldn't do a thing like this. The child that she nursed in her body for 40 weeks and fed with her breasts, and there's all this kind of language of like how unnatural this is that you would destroy your own creation in this way. And I think that's really deep. Obviously, that plays it. I think at a really macro level, it plays into fears about like God destroying the earth. But I think on the more kind of social and cultural level, it just flies in the face of everything that women are supposed to be. We're supposed to be kind and gentle and nurturing and giving and selfless, and all of these things are intimately tied up with our concept of the mother, right? The mother just gives and gives and gives. The mother is is a a you know, a vessel that never runs dry. Right. That's what it's supposed to be. And so if a mother not only fails to deliver on all those counts, but actually turns on her children and even destroys them, this like, taps into, I think, some really elemental fears. And I think that's why we're so interested in it. And I think that's why we stay interested in it. And as a mother, I'm a mother as well. I think it's it strikes a particular chord because it's that on the one hand, yes, there's that schadenfreude or. Right, There's that. Well, I didn't do that. You didn't do that? Yeah. My, my, my kid cried all day, too, but I didn't, you know, throw him out a window. There's that. But there's also the more interesting thing is that on some level, I think anyone who has ever had to care for a small child, an infant, especially if you have recently given birth and your own body and your own mind are still you know, you're not yourself yet. I think anyone who's been in that position has been that exhausted, that frustrated, felt that inadequate, felt how hard it is to live up to all those things. I just enumerated that mothers are supposed to be can understand how it happens. And that's terrifying that there but for the grace of God go. I write that if I hadn't had my support network, if I hadn't had my level of education, if I hadn't known how to find help. Right. That the I might have done a thing like that. And I think that's why we can't look away. I think that's a big part of it. Yeah, that is actually one of the notes that I was just rereading here is that it's hard to make peace with that because, you know, whether it be it's like take guys who who commit murder, there's often the you find out that they had childhood trauma they were abused but then there's plenty of people say, well, so was I. But I didn't it you know kill five people. It's kind of the same thing here. It's there's there's so many women who deal with postpartum depression and then it's very easy to say, well, I didn't do that and I would never think of doing that. But it's exactly what you say. It's when you stare in the face, it's like, well, it's a really thin line of what, you know, the possibility of it. It's just it's a weird thing to kind of I just grapple with an iron out. Yeah. And if there's actually, you know, things out of whack that would respond to medication, this isn't just even a this goes beyond just being exhaustion of being overwhelmed, feeling inadequate, all of which are incredibly legitimate things that, you know, I certainly experienced as a mother of three children. But then you actually add in some sort of, you know, chemical balance or mental illness or, you know, various factors. Women have no resources. They have no help, they have no money, no one cares about them. We have a government that cares very much about fetuses or at least claims to care very much about fetuses. It doesn't care so much about babies or their mothers. You know, if they wind up needing extra help. So in answer to your question about the sort of coverage of these things, I do think and I hope I'm not being optimistic, I do think that I'm seeing a shift in the coverage. It's not that there wasn't any mention when the when the Yates murders happened in 2001 or maybe it was. Yes, it was one. There was talk of the fact that this woman hadn't for one reason or another, she didn't get the care that she needed. And there were a lot of factors at play there. She and her husband were evangelical Christians. They were part of this quiver full movement, which basically they want you to have as many children for Jesus as possible. It's God's will. You just keep having children as long as God sends them to you. She was homeschooling them all she had already had. I can't remember now if it was after her second or third child. She'd had a pretty serious case of postpartum depression to the point where her her gynecologist said she shouldn't have any more children. This is going to happen again. It's going to get worse. But they had, I think, two more children after that. Anyway. She was being insufficiently monitored. I mean, there was a lot of talk about the fact that this woman was, in her own way, a victim. And there was a lot of finger pointing at the husband. His name was Rusty. Rusty Yates for continuing to, you know, have children with her and allowing her to homeschool the children. She had five children under the age of seven and, you know, wasn't taking her medication. And there was a lot going on there. So it wasn't that the coverage of her was completely unsympathetic, but there was an awful lot of she's a monster. She she couldn't have done it if she because the insanity defense, they're doing same thing with Lindsey Clancy. The prosecution is saying, well, no, no, she can't have been insane because she knew what she was doing. She was able to make a plan and carried out both Lindsey Clancy, Andrea Yates and Margaret Robinson, for that matter, wait until their husbands were away and they knew they had a window in order to commit the crimes. And the prosecution in Clancy's case and in this case have argued that that's impossible, because if she was insane, she couldn't have made a plan, she couldn't have carried it out, etc., etc.. Of course, we know that's not true. People, people suffering from psychosis can commit, make plans and carry them out all time. And it was initially charged with first degree murder and found guilty. And the jury didn't. They could have given her the death penalty. They they didn't, but they sent a sort of life in prison initially. And then they appealed several years later using an insanity defense, which which succeeded I don't actually think I don't have a crystal ball, but I think that the passage of 22 years is going to have made a difference in the Lindsey Clancy case. She is, you know, remains in a psychiatric facility. I, I think that there would be a great outcry if she actually were brought to trial for murder charges. And I think that there's been so much more in the press about postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis in the wake of Lindsey Clancy's. I mean, it's a crime. I but I hesitate to use that word. But in the wake of this very tragic incident, there's been so much more coverage of that and a lot more people coming forward, a lot of kind of op ed pieces, people saying, I have postpartum depression. This is what it's like. I you know, again, that could have been me. So I feel like there's a broader discussion about it. And you know, it was just I think two weeks ago that the government approved this medication for women with postpartum depression to be more widely distributed, which I feel is like a huge step forward. And, you know, I mean, I can talk obviously, I can talk about this all day. At the root of this, the fact that it's 2023 and we're only now it seems like having a really serious conversation about this just speaks to the degree to which women's issues are always pushed down the list. Right. Women's health, women's wellbeing, women's mental health. It's always bumped down the list. And of course, again, we're going back to mothers, right? Mothers aren't supposed to need anything. We're supposed to take care of everyone all the time and no one takes care of us. So I feel like, yes, progress. But wow, it's, you know, the 21st century. I know. We need to take a quick break, so don't go too far. It's fascinating to me. And I wonder if it's repeatedly fascinating to you just if this small increment of time is where we're starting to see that little switch turn to, you know, more in favor of the other possibilities that could be at play here. But 2023 compared to, you know, 16, 16, we're not you know, how how in the media things are typecasting with these types of crimes. Is it for it to be so not that much different? Is, oh, you know, how many how many things can you count, How many topics can you say are like that? Yeah, I mean, that's a great money generator. So I mean, I mean. Margaret Vincent, you know, I mean, she said ultimately that she had been, you know, she had fallen under evil influences and basically the devil made her do it. And you know, there's this great woodcut on the cover of the pamphlet about her, which is called The Pity Lost Mother Goes on, but we'll just call it a pity loss. Mother, for the sake of brevity that shows her with her children and she's strangling them and the devil is standing behind her. And he's got horns and claws and and he's he's basically making her do it. And after she had been in prison when she was apprehended, she said that she had been, you know, laboring under this terrible delusion. And there had been, like Roman Catholic neighbors who were trying to persuade her to become a Catholic. And that's like a bad influence at this time. And once she had been spoken to at length by a proper, you know, Protestant minister, she repented and recanted. And obviously she had to be hanged for it, but she at least was able to repent and make her peace. And so, like the the the end game of the pamphlet is that since she was truly repentant, you know, maybe she can be saved, right? Like, her body has to die, but maybe her soul can still be saved. But the important part is the repentance, right? Kind of say, yes, I did that. Yes, it was wrong in those days, you know, like, you know, I like to say yesterday's demonic possession might be today's postpartum psychosis or the other way around. Right. That, you know, these behaviors, there's got to be some kind of a just be an explanation as to be a reason. So, you know, if it's that, you know, I have a chemical imbalance and I need to, you know, take medication and be treated for it or like, oh, like I was actually possessed by it by a demon when this happened. There has to be some kind of resolution and you have to be sorry. Do you know off the top of your head with Lindsay Clancy if she said anything like in. Yeah, she said at her arraignment or I guess her she didn't speak at her arraignment, but her her counsel said that she said that she heard a voice in her head when her husband was gone. She sent her husband out on an errand. He was working from home because she was that she was sick. He had been working from home and she was doing well, apparently seemed to be doing well and hadn't had a good day with the children playing outside in the snow. And he was working from his home office and she texted him, recalled him and said, let's get takeout. And he said, Yeah. And so he sent him to a place that was about a half hour's drive away. And she said she heard a voice in her head telling her that she had to do it now, because if she didn't do it now, she wouldn't have another chance. That sounds pretty psychotic to me right? Andrea Yates said something pretty similar that, you know, she she knew that she would have to do it. Now. This was the chance and she had to take it. And something would have prevented them from doing these things. If, you know, if they hadn't taken these these opportunities, created, you know, these opportunities and and taken them. That's all we've really heard from her thus far. But apparently, she you know, she told her husband that you've done it. The husband has argued very movingly. I think that she deserves compassion and not condemnation, and that if he can forgive her, then, you know, then the people, the people on Facebook comment threads should probably, you know, dig deep and either find compassion or find the ability to get off that Facebook comment thread. Right. Oh, my gosh. Amen to that. I mean, and that that kind of brings me to my my parting thoughts here was how you ended your piece was there. It seems to be that there's two lanes of thought here when someone's digesting all of the true crime that they can, especially when it comes to wives of mothers. It seems it's the what did you call it, the shattered fruit. I can't. It just means that kind of it's a nasty word and there isn't a word in English that means this. Exactly. It basically means that the sort of pleasure, often a kind of guilty pleasure. We take in the misfortunes of others. But yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, you know, when when the Lindsay Clancey situation occurred, I know my immediate thought was like, oh my goodness, like, you know, social media, like, that's going to be an absolute pit of despair. You know, if you do the things that people the people's hot takes. Right. But but I feel like that visceral reaction that people have where they feel like they have to get in there and say, look, she's a monster and she should go to hell. Oh, those poor little angels, etc., etc.. That's very much part and parcel of that. Pushing it away. That can't be me. I'm not like that where you know, I'm not like that. I'm not a person who with my children, I'm not a person who would kill my husband. I'm not a person who, you know, would do X, Y, Z, terrible thing. And so I have to jump in here and do this very kind of like performative public condemnation of this thing to kind of distance myself from it, but also kind of reassure myself that, you know, that's not me, I'm different than that. I'm better than that. Right? That's actually the flip side of things. The other lane is what you had mentioned is that the appeal might lie in the fact that, oh, that light bulb thing, we might be capable of these things. It's kind of funny. And the thought that immediately came to me and this is always how I've felt about true crime, and especially on this topic, is like it's better to what is it the devil you know versus the devil you don't know, right? Yeah, that's just right. Well, I've been, you know, again, I've sort of been down this kind of classical tragedy rabbit hole this week. You know, I come back to what do we get out of this kind of stuff, Like, you know, here you are. You confess to being like you're constantly devouring this material, right? I do it. Lots of people I know do it. True crime, you know, has been so massive in recent years. Right. People just devour this stuff. I mean, it's always been very popular. It does seem like it's really kind of having a moment culturally. There's what we get from this stuff is is catharsis, Right? I mean, it's the same thing as as classical tragedy, right? We we watched the terrible thing happen, but the terrible thing hasn't happened to us. Now, if we're talking about a drama, if we're talking about Medea or Oedipus Rex or even Hamlet, yet the body, you know, the bodies are littering the stage and all these terrible things have happened. We have the the purging of pity and terror that comes. But no one has actually died. Nothing terrible has actually happened. We leave the theater feeling kind of scoured out and then we go and we we get a coffee and we chat about it. Right. But with the true crime stuff, someone has died. Something a real tragedy has occurred. And yet I still feel like it's that catharsis that you know, we see it, we watch it. You know, people watch to watch these trials when they can. Right? They need to see how it ends. And then they can walk away from it and it hasn't happened to us. Mhm. Right. We sort of had the, the, the purging of pity and terror but something terrible really has happened and still it's not like when a play is over and now the play is over. As you say, these stories happen over and over again. It's so, so accessible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, I mean yeah that, yeah, yeah. And then there's that other thing. Go ahead, Go ahead. No, no, it's just kind of. I just feel like this. This appeal is kind of timeless, and it speaks to something in in like, the human condition. And I'm not sure it's a very nice thing in the human condition, but it certainly is. There. That's my thinking. Exactly. Yeah. It really it all ties in together. It's just. Yeah, definitely something to chew on, to use. I mean, what's next for you in this grand scheme of things. And I think going forward, I mean that's kind of a really open ended question. I, I mean, I'm excited for this, this course. I'm going to start teaching on Monday, which is again, we're going to start with with Medea and we're moving on to so then we're moving on to some everything inside of mothers and we're going to move on to some some women who kill, too. I don't know. We're moving on to petty tyrants after that. So we'll have some texts about fathers who abuse their authority by killing their wives and or children. And we're going to end up with wives who who kill their their husbands sort of petty traitors. And I will be putting kind of early modern texts in conversation with more modern cases throughout the semester. So I think it's going to be really fun and interesting. And I'm hoping my my I have I have every intention of writing a book, which is I have a title. It's going to be the same title as my seminar are actually Pulp Pulp nonfiction, Oh, True Crime and Fake News and Early Modern England. So that's that's my next big project. I'm currently working on a of what I think is going to be more public facing piece which is kind of different but kind of not. It's actually about Barbie and Paradise Lost. Milton's Paradise Lost, which I think is kind of interesting, is sort of Barbie Land as a kind of Eden and Ken as a kind of Adam figure. But that's that's what I'm kind of working on right now on the side. We'll see what happens with that. But yeah, I think going forward, you know, it's going to kind of be more murder and mayhem for me. I really safe to say that's the life, right. I hasten to add, I'm actually a very nice person. And it's funny that I know. I mean, I have three children of my own. And I think they they think it's they're a little bemused that this is kind of like my my reputation. I was once at a conference and I was introduced to someone and he said, Oh, you're the infanticide woman. And I was like, Please don't call me that. But, you know, yeah, I have children, I have children, I have dogs and cats. I, you know, I, I'm, I'm a nice person. I swear to God, you know, I'm vegan. I've been begging for for a very long time. So, yeah, this is all purely intellectual, I assure you. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, Well, these are wrenching, all of that. And is there any way, if a listener is interested in following you and is not obviously at one of your classes at university, one of your son winners at university, is there a way that people can follow what you're doing or publishing. A I'm not really very I I'm not on Twitter or whatever it's called this week, so I have to go. Yeah, right. Perhaps going forward at this at this point, mainly, you know, just through, through what I publish. Yeah. And up to Clark University. I, I teach English at Clark University in Massachusetts. Okay. Okay. So Google search, people. And that is that, my friends, special thanks to Diane Berg for joining the show and then giving us a look at what's mesmerized true crime fans for centuries. Thanks for listening to Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. Hit that subscribe button so you don't miss what's coming next. See you later on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Pew Research Center found in 2022 that nearly 25% of top-ranked podcasts were true crime-related. In the next set of episodes, host Nat Cardona speaks with Dianne Berg, college professor and author of What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill, to explore why this niche of true crime fascinates so many. In this first episode, we discuss the history of the public's nearly-fanatical interest in mothers and wives who commit murder and why societies are particularly fascinated by these stories. To learn more about Dianne Berg, click here. Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Slack and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Hey there, as a listener of this podcast, you must be at least somewhat into the whole true crime genre. But did you know that True Crime is the most common topic among top ranked podcasts? To be specific? The Pew Research Center reports that in 2022 almost a quarter of top podcasts are primarily about true crime. Welcome to Lee Enterprise's Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. I'm your host Nat Cardona. In the next two episodes, we're going to explore a very niche area of true crime stories. The obsession that fans seem to have with killer wives and mothers. But how does one even begin to tackle such a complex topic? Enter Dianne Berg. She's a professor at Clark University and the author of the article, what's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill her? Research traces this phenomenon back to literature from the 15 hundreds and 16 hundreds with clearly printed details of the early fascination that people had with murderesses. And here's my interview with Dianne just to kick things off. Why don't you just tell me a little bit about yourself and your background and what you do? Nowadays. Ok. I, that's kind of hard to answer. I mean, where he, ok. Well, once upon a time before I decided to become an academic, I, was, the education program manager at a Museum of Medieval and Renaissance Arms and Armor, in Worcester, Massachusetts, called the Higgins Armory Museum, which is now sadly defunct. I left years before, it, it went out, sort of went out of business. But while I was there, I learned a great deal about, armor and, and weapons and warfare and medieval politics and things. I was always very interested in medieval renaissance, history and literature. But not so much that side of it. But it kind of opened up, a different window in, into these things for me doing that work. And when I left there, I realized that what I had enjoyed most about that job was researching and developing education programs. So, essentially, you know, going down research rabbit holes and writing things up. So I went and I got a master's degree and I did the master's degree basically to see if I wanted to get a phd. And after I had finished that, then I decided that I did indeed want to get a phd. So, my dissertation, my doctoral dissertation focused on kind of, literary representations of true crime between about 1550, 1650. And it was very interesting because the thing that jumped out at me when the project first started, the sort of germ of the project came about by accident when I was researching something completely different. And I came across this pamphlet about a woman named Margaret Vincent. And in 1616, she strangled two of her Children. She had 31 was away at the wet nurse and so was spared and she did so because she believed that she was saving them, she was saving them. She was taking them out of a sinful world. And her reason for this was that she wanted to convert to Roman Catholicism. And she thought if they didn't do that, then they were going to be damned. And her husband was not on board with that because basically being a Catholic was illegal was essentially illegal in early 17th century England. So she did this bad thing for what she believed were good reasons and this just rang a bell in my head because back in 2001, this woman named Andrea Yates in Texas who was an evangelical Christian. She strangled all five, she strangled and drowned all five of her Children. And like Margaret Vincent laid them out neatly on a bed and said afterwards that she had done so in order to save them. And so the, you know, this really kind of struck me and I wondered how many other cases where they're out there like this because we always hear about mothers who kill their Children as being, you know, evil monsters or, they want to get rid of the kids because they want to start a new relationship or, there's all these kinds of lurid stories that have been in the news just in the past 30 years or so. I think someone like Casey, Anthony. Right. But what about good mothers? Right. What about good mothers who do this terrible thing for what they believe at the time are good reasons. And then of course, we've just had this Lindsay Lacy case here in Massachusetts, which is unbelievably tragic and it is kind of still evolving in, in Andrea Yates case. Postpartum psychosis was at play in Lindsay Clancy's case. It certainly sounds as if postpartum psychosis was at play. We can't know what was going on with Margaret Vincent in 16 16, but she did have a new baby at the time. So, you know, I can't prove it. But I have, but I have my theories. So anyway, that particular story, stumbling upon that particular story was the kind of impetus for my doctoral work. And for most of the things that I've published since, and I'm actually about to teach a class focused on these, these kinds of stories and that leads us here today, which is why I'm talking with you. We had found that piece, the what's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill because of all the things you said. It's just the, the women as the monsters and it's such a, there's so few and far between that. Yeah, it, people latch on to it and are fascinated by it. So we'll just kind of jump into, the piece that you've written today. Thank you for that all that back story leading us up to Margaret Vinson, Andrea Yates. And we'll get more into the modern day examples and parallels that you drew even with that Utah mother, which is how you started your article. But I kind of just want to jump into and maybe this is just me fan girling. But the the tolstoy quote that you popped in there, each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way was a really good way to kick off. Why this could be a source of interest for a lot of people looking at, you know, other people and being like, oh, that's another family's problem and that, that can't happen here and we'll get into all of that. The first thing I wanna jump into is you mentioned how true crime is. Nothing new. It's always been a tale as old as time that people are fascinated with it and devour it in different ways. Nowadays, we've got the podcasts and the documentaries and novels and this and that. But from your background and the you know, 15, 50 16 50 that, that time range, it was not, obviously those things you mentioned, ballads, domestic tragedies and these penny pamphlets. Can you, like, explain what those are like? Like, what the hell are those? Yeah, it's really interesting. So, you know, there's no, news reporting in this period, right? Like what we would think of as, you know, news reporting. But news does get disseminated obviously. So, you know, if there's a big scandal, there is going to be ways for people to find out about it. So we're, it's very interesting because we're also kind of in the early days of print, right? The printing press arise in England in 14 75 William Caxton is the first guy to use the printing press in London in 14 75. And he starts printing, aside from obviously religious things, you know, we're gonna are gonna get kind of priority. He printed the Canterbury Tales and he, he printed Thomas Mallory's more Arthur. It sort of like gives us some sense of what people were interested in reading, right? So think about like, what were the first websites, right? Because you can really make the printing press analogous to the internet. Like, so what were the first things that started appearing on the internet? It tells us something about what people were interested back in those like embryonic. It, you know, information superhighway days. So by the middle of the 15 hundreds. You're getting more kind of political tracks being printed And starting to see chronicles. So basically, these are what pass for. They're not really news, they're kind of somewhere between like the encyclopedia Bria or something. There's several chronicles that are very famous and their names aren't, aren't really important for our conversation. But Rafael Hole and, and John Stow several others and they print these sort of big chronicles that are gonna give you the history of England, everything important that ever happened. And, and mostly they just talk about kings and queens and battles and the usual things you would expect. But this murder that happened in 15 51 which I write about in the article Thomas Arden, he was murdered on Valentine's Day 15 51 by his wife Alice and she conspired with her lover, a guy named Mosby, and some of some of their servants and a couple of hired killers. The whole thing is actually kind of slapstick when I teach this. When I teach the, the text that's based on the play Arden and my students are always like, I've had these murders compared to the wet Bandits in home alone, they're kind of incompetent. That was good. But but I can't get it out of my head. But anyway, so this is, these are just middle class bourgeois people living in a London suburb. And there's nothing important or famous or particularly interesting about them except the woman conspires to murder her husband. And this winds up in one of these chronicles, it winds up in Holland. It's chronicle amidst like, you know, Julius Caesar invading Britain and things like that. And the reason he included this seemingly ordinary and unimportant episode he says is because of the horribleness thereof because the idea of a wife killing her husband is so horrible, right? It goes against nature. It goes against the sort of political theology of the time it threatens order in the household. And in this period, there's this kind of analog framing of the household as like a miniature state, a little commonwealth. There's a long tract about it by Robert John Dodd and Robert Clever that comes out in the 15 hundreds. And essentially, it's kind of just saying that the household is just like a miniature kingdom and of course, who's at the top of the kingdom, right? The husband and the father, right? Everybody is subordinate just like the king is the head of the nation and God is the head of the universe. And this is the analogy. So if a wife kills her husband, it's it's a political crime, it's treason, it's like killing the king, right? So, whereas if a husband kills his wife, he's guilty of murder. And depending on his social class, he'll, he'll be hanged or maybe beheaded. If a wife kills her husband, she's gonna be burned because that's the penalty for treason. So this case gets way more attention than you would think it should merit and winds up in this chronicle and inspires a play called Arden of Fabric, which comes circa 15 90. We don't know the writer is unknown. And it also inspired at least one battle ballad that we know of that came out way later like 16 30 or something. Which Ventri likewise is Alan Alice Arden, just before she dies before she gets burned at the stake. And basically, she goes on for, I think 90 19 verses about how terrible she is and how sorry she is and how, what she did was really, really wrong and you should never tell. So there's all this kind of like rhetorical work that these kinds of cases serve beyond just saying, OK, this is a crime, this is what happened. These are the details. It's like, so what right. Going back to what you were saying about Tolstoy, right? It's like, how can this be used weaponized to kind of reinforce the status quo? And what's the word I want? Sissuade discourage people, other people from doing this kind of thing, right? Show them what the consequences are. Mhm Yeah. It's the, the true life scary story to keep people in line. Yes. Yeah. Yes, for sure. Ca a cautionary tale the cautionary tale. Yes. Yeah, we need to take a quick break. So don't go too far. Ok. So we're gonna toggle a little bit between current day and going back and it's going off of the things that you just mentioned. So this is probably pretty straightforward and most people especially like true crime junkies should know this. But statistically crimes committed, you know, whether it be a murder, a rape, a burglary kidnapping. it's typically by somebody, you know, and it's typically a man who does it and I mean, I devour these True Crime podcasts and you always hear whatever the case, it's like the husband always does it or the boyfriend and, and it's true and, and, and that's sad. But then it's like, ok, move on because it's time a dozen. So when you've done your right, it's just a Tuesday. Right. You know? Right. Right. Right. It's a 20, that's sad. And then it's like, so like when you've done your research in, in, on all your historical, you know, literature and all, whatever have you, my guess would be that you haven't seen men as portrayed in these cautionary tales as much as, you know, Margaret Vincent or Alice Arden that you mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, and it, I didn't really answer your question about the pamphlets and this ties into that. So, these pamphlets are basically cheap. I make them kind of analogous to, tabloid newspapers, you know, the things that you see at the supermarket checkout or, or online now, you know, with the kind of like the, the, the red thing in the UK, they call them red tops because they always have like a red headline. And, you know, it's like, oh, you know, demon mother murders, helpless angel Children, you know, that, that kind of stuff. And they, they're grabby and they're cheap and they're really disposable, right? You read that and then you line the cat box with it or something. And that's, these pamphlets were cheap like that. They were mass produced. you could buy it. They lured, they always featured these, like, really kind of, lurid woodcuts, showing, you know, somebody hacking someone's head off or strangling a baby or whatever. And the funny thing is that they're really kind of like early modern clip art. They reuse the images over and over again and just changed the headline, which I think is really funny. They're sort of like memes. Yeah. I'm no kidding. Yeah, they are. They're like memes. So anybody would look at this image even though it's been used like six different times for 66 different context. It's like, oh, well, that's like, oh, that's like, you know, somebody strangling their wife or something, you know, and it's just like, you know what this is gonna be about. So, yeah, I think, I wrote a lot about this. The way men, male perpetrators and female perpetrators are portrayed in these kinds of texts. So, yeah, the pamphlets for sure, because they've got this kind of, again, the rhetoric is so similar to what you see in these tabloids that it's funny, it's really kind of like overwrought really over the top, kind of hysterical. Do you remember Nancy Grace? She used to be on TV. She used to always follow, she'd be like, if somebody murders their kid, she's the one on TV. Like that kind of tone that like screaming outraged, but kind of like titillated. It's like, yeah. Oh, I'm, I'm like pointing the finger. These people are monsters, but I love it, you know, the tone is very, very, very similar. So when a man does this kind of stuff, he's definitely what he's done is wrong. So a man like kills his family or something, the portrayal of him is definitely, you know, the disapproving. But what he has done the, the sort of social crime he has committed is, is called petty tyranny because a man is supposed to be in charge, right? He's supposed to have all the power. But if he, it's, and it's ok for him to chastise his subordinates, right? Like it's his job to chastise his subordinates, you know, he should beat his Children. If they misbehave, he should chastise his wife if she's, if she's insubordinate, right? But he shouldn't kill them, right. He shouldn't beat them to the point of, you know, maiming them or seriously harming them and he certainly shouldn't kill them. So, when a man does these kinds of things, he has abused his power and that is very much disapproved of. But there's also kind of a whiff of, there's often kind of a whiff of, well, what made him do it, what drove him to it? Right. Does this sound at all familiar? You know, and I, I, ok, so it's, it's just funny that you brought this up because one of my notes that I I had mentioned is like going beyond like a guy who kills his wife. You know, Scott Peterson comes to mind with Lacey Peterson and then Chris Watts, the family annihilator, right? With his pregnant wife, right? And you see every time these, these stories hit the news, like, you know, I often, I often just sort of have news on when I'm cooking in my kitchen and these things come on and I'm just like, I've got like a wooden spoon in my hand and I'm like, he did it like I know he did it like, you know, he totally, he definitely did it. And I'm always right. Yeah. And it's just, it is. So, so those two names and everything that you just had mentioned, I had this inner dialogue yesterday when I was thinking about it because it goes back to the top, like, why are, why are you and I talking today the why do we care so much when it's a wife and, or mother as opposed to the, you know, we can be like, oh, you know, Chris Watson Scott Peterson, like those guys are terrible, nail rotten hell. But again, it goes back to when it's a woman, it's that monster. It's a evil. And then I kind of had this own thought dialogue. I'm a mother myself and I'm, I'm actually pregnant. So I'm gonna have a baby in four weeks. Thank you. So I'm kind of like, you know, going through all of these things and, you know, very much in the, you know, what makes me different from these other women who have done this historically or in more recent history. But the thing that comes to mind is there is just something so grabbing about when women do this because you carry the child for so long and you birth the child and it's so much more intimate than the father who's removed and can kind of clean his hands in the sense of when there is a murder, you can go, you know, and that's because he's not involved. So in the, in the natural process of pregnancy and birth. So, yeah, when there are these women historically or modern day that do this, it's like how, you know, you just sit there and go, how you know, how could this happen? And that's where we'll wrap up this week. Come back next week where Dianne and I discuss how society has evolved or remain the same as far as discussing women's wellness, postpartum ghost and how all of that contributes to violence committed by women.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
There is perhaps no greater and fiercer love on Earth than that of a mother for her children, so perhaps that’s why it’s always so shocking (and morbidly fascinating) when a mother murders her own kids. On today’s grim episode, Tom and Jenny will be discussing two of the most infamous “killer moms” in the … Continue reading Episode 362: Killer Moms – Susan Smith and Andrea Yates
This week we take a look and discuss the case of Andrea Yates. While suffering from postpartum psychosis Andrea was left unsupervised with her five children against her doctors orders. The events of that morning would result in the filicide of the 5 Yates children aged 7 years old to 6 months. Please see the below resource regarding the Yates Children Memorial Fund and for those struggling with PPD/PPA/PPP. https://www.postpartum.net/twenty-years-later/Join the discussion on:Instagram @themurdermamasTwitter @themurdermamas Facebook group - The M MamasEmail themurdermamas@gmail.com Support the show by joining our Patreon and leaving a rating or review! Sources:WikipediaPeople.comCrimeLibraryReviewUSAToday.comNewyorkpostHouston ChronThinking of starting your own podcast? Use Buzzsprout for your podcast hosting needs by clicking our link!https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1905497 Support the show
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