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W każdym związku zdarzają się trudne momenty, Pary ranią się, czasem nieświadomie.Naruszają swoje granice, niekoniecznie intencjonalnie. Wszystko to jest częścią relacji, dopóki zauważamy nasz wkład w trudne chwile i staramy się to zmieniać.Ale jest taki rodzaj relacji, dla której nadzieja na poprawę jest znikoma. Czasem żadna. To toksyczne relacje, nierzadko z powodu zaburzeń osobowości.Jak rozpoznać te mechanizmy, jak się obronić i zadbać o siebie, będąc w toksycznym związku?W tym odcinku wspominam o:książce "Wysoko wrażliwi w toksycznej relacji. Wykorzystaj techniki CBT i DBT, aby stawiać granice, radzić sobie z manipulacją i zadbać o swoją wyjątkowość" Shahida Arabi
Have you ever been accused of being too sensitive? Being too emotional? Have you ever told yourself that you should be stronger, less emotional? I want to challenge these questions and judgements. This episode is inspired by the book titled The Highly Sensitive Person's Guide to Dealing with Toxic People by Shahida Arabi. The subtitle of the book is How to Reclaim Your Power from Narcissists and Other Manipulators. If you have not yet read this book, I do highly recommend it. The world will tell you that your high sensitivity is a weakness, and too often we believe that ourselves. I am telling you that it is an amazing strength! It is a beautiful thing, and our broken world needs it so badly. You need it! We all need it! Never again will anyone ever convince me that being sensitive or emotional is a weakness. It is a beautiful strength, and I will nourish it! I want to let you know about a November special that I am running. All of my individual coaching sessions in November are only $99 per hour long session. I will have it ready to go this week. So if you want to take advantage of this offer, go to my coaching website, which is cnglifecoaching.com. I wish you so much peace on your journey of healing! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/covertnarcissism/support
“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” This quote attributed to Albert Einstein describes our collective misunderstanding of the relationship between the conscious and subconscious mind. For those who have experienced trauma, the learned act to rationalize our experiences can mean missing sometimes life-changing information from our subconscious. By tapping into her own intuition, today's guest was able to escape an abusive relationship and start to heal. Joining Shelly on today's episode is Kiersten Parsons Hathcock, founder of Mod Mom Furniture, TEDx Speaker, and author of the book Little Voices: How Kids in Spirit Helped a Reluctant Medium Escape and Heal From Abuse. Kiersten is also an intuitive medium, and uses her gift at the National Institute for Law & Justice (NILJ), which she helped create with CEO Mark Pucci. Kiersten is sharing her emotional story of healing her inner child, including repressed memories of childhood sexual abuse and finding—and then learning to listen to—her intuition. She also discusses wounded detachment, trauma bonding, and what she's learned from children in spirit. As you'll hear Kiersten say in this episode, knowledge is power, so tune in to learn about intuition, healing your inner child, and more! Topics discussed in this episode: Kiersten on her book, Little Voices Her cathartic experience writing a letter to her abuser Acknowledging and healing her inner child Breaking the cycle of generational trauma The story behind National Institute for Law & Justice (NILJ) What pushed Kiersten to leave her relationship with a narcissistic abuser Kiersten explains wounded attachment and trauma bonding How to tap into your intuition Using binaural beats to get into an alpha state of mind Kiersten speaks to future generations The creation of Mod Mom Furniture Kiersten's final thoughts and resources for abuse survivors If you enjoyed this interview, be sure to grab Kiersten Parsons Hathcock's book Little Voices: How Kids in Spirit Helped a Reluctant Medium Escape and Heal From Abuse! Connect with Kiersten: Website Instagram Facebook Twitter LinkedIn TikTok Connect with Shelly to learn more about The Shelly Story: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Facebook Resources Mentioned: Between Two Worlds: Lessons from the Other Side by Tyler Henry Check out Shahida Arabi's series of writings on narcissistic abuse, including her article, Your Brain on Love, Sex and the Narcissist: The Addiction to Bonding with Our Abusers.
What is narcissism and how do we know if someone is a narcissist? Alyssa teams up with returning podcast guest, Rebecca Christianson, LCSW as they tackle this very important topic. Learn more about Rebecca Christianson, LCSW Check out the Light After Trauma website for transcripts, other episodes, Alyssa's guest appearances, and more at: www.lightaftertrauma.com Want to get more great content and interact with the show? Check us out on Instagram: @lightaftertrauma We need your help! We want to continue to make great content that can help countless trauma warriors on their journey to recovery. So, please help us in supporting the podcast by becoming a recurring patron of the show via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lightaftertrauma Transcript Alyssa Scolari [00:23]: Hello, beautiful people. Welcome back to another episode of The Light After Trauma podcast. I'm your host, Alyssa Scolari. This is a two part, well, really a two part series. This is going to be two episodes today, and it is a guest episode. It has been a while since we've had a guest episode. I know that we he had talked about me sort of reeling back on guest episodes and being much more particular with who's coming on the show, just because I know that you all are really interested and have really, really liked the solo episodes that I've done. Alyssa Scolari [00:57]: But you all also love today's guest, who is a friend of the family, friend of the podcast, it's Rebecca Christianson. Duh, would it be anyone else? We love Rebecca. She has been on this podcast to talk about grief. She's been on the podcast to talk about guilt and shame, and she's incredible. Alyssa Scolari [01:19]: Today she's on the podcast to talk about narcissism. And I know this one's going to be a really big hit for you all because narcissism is honestly a very hot term right now. It is a really hot topic. It is all over TikTok, all over social media. But before we dive right into narcissism, I just want to take a minute to let you know who Rebecca is. Alyssa Scolari [01:41]: If you are a new listener, Rebecca really started out as a mentor for me and became, honestly, one of my closest friends. She's absolutely a soulmate of mine. We were absolutely meant to know each other in this life and every other life after that. And she really is the reason why I am the therapist that I am today. Alyssa Scolari [02:05]: So Rebecca is the founder of a group practice called Rebellious Wellness Counseling in the state of New Jersey in the United States. And I will, of course, link her group practice. She works with a bunch of wonderful people. She does amazing work. She is, especially you do a lot of grief, right? Like that's like you special when I think of you, I think like you do grief, but you also do couples, right? Rebecca Christianson [02:33]: Yes. Alyssa Scolari [02:34]: Yeah. Rebecca Christianson [02:34]: Yes. Alyssa Scolari [02:35]: Rebecca does two of the hardest things that I think any therapist can do. So I will absolutely link her group practice in the show notes for today. So let's just hand it over to Rebecca. Welcome. Rebecca Christianson [02:51]: Thank you. Thanks for having me. You always say the nicest things. You are the therapist that you are because you are extremely talented and work really hard, but thank you for giving me credit for that. Alyssa Scolari [03:04]: All shucks. Thank you. Rebecca Christianson [03:05]: Yeah. So I am always honored to be on the podcast. I love, obviously, I love talking to you. I love tackling some of these topics that I think are complex topics that everybody has to handle, but don't always understand exactly how to handle it or how it affects their lives. So I'm happy to be on it. Alyssa Scolari [03:27]: Yeah, exactly, exactly. And we make a really good team, which is why I feel like tackling narcissism today is like, you and I are really, really well suited to do this together because it's a really heavy topic, right? Rebecca Christianson [03:42]: Yep. Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Alyssa Scolari [03:43]: And it's something that I think gets talked about a lot, but also often very misused and overused. And so I think here's an interesting fact for y'all, right? So the word narcissism in itself is at actually derived from the Greek mythological figure, Narcissus. And basically the story of Narcissus is that he fell in love with his own reflection. And what narcissism is at its core is really just self-absorption but pathological self absorption. Alyssa Scolari [04:21]: So that's where the name comes from. And I think when it comes to narcissism, there's one way that therapists diagnose it. But then there's an entirely different way that I think you guys can understand it and recognize it in others. And that's kind of a little bit more important. Alyssa Scolari [04:48]: So the way that therapists diagnose it is, obviously, you all have heard of the DSM. I've talked about it on this podcast before. It's like the holy grail for mental health diagnoses. It's what therapists turn to in order to diagnose somebody. And there is a personality disorder in there called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. And this is how therapists would really diagnose somebody. And really what it is it's this pattern of grandiosity. Alyssa Scolari [05:23]: They just, people, who think that they just have this huge amount of self importance. They often exaggerate their achievements and their talents. They are preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, or ideal love. They believe that they are super special and unique and that they are very high status and everyone else is below them. They require excessive admiration. They constantly need other people to be doting on them and thinking that they are just the bees knees. Alyssa Scolari [06:01]: They have an extreme sense of self entitlement, very unreasonable expectations, and they always think that they should be favored above everyone else. They exploit people, especially those who are closest to them. In other words, they try to take advantage of the people around them to meet their own needs. And they lack empathy. They cannot identify with feelings or needs of others and they often can seem very arrogant, right? Alyssa Scolari [06:33]: So that's a very brief run through of what those symptoms look like in the book that therapists use to diagnose. But it's a little bit different when we're just in our day to day life. So Rebecca, can you actually talk about, I don't know. I feel like what I just said was a very hoity-toity way of describing narcissism. Can you break this down? What does that actually look like day to day? Rebecca Christianson [07:02]: Yes, absolutely. I think that one of the things that's important to remember about narcissist is that underneath it all, it's a very, very fragile ego and that extremely, extremely fragile ego, came from somewhere, right? Oftentimes it comes from childhood trauma. Oftentimes it comes from neglect or abuse where a child doesn't get their needs met. So they have to manipulate to get their own needs met and they build this wall or protection around that very fragile ego. And no one can see the fragile ego at any cost. So they will always externally get their needs met instead of getting their needs met from within. Rebecca Christianson [07:55]: That would be... The only thing that was really healing for them is to go in and process through the things that made that ego so fragile. But they, at a very young age, protect that fragile ego at all costs. At all costs. At the cost to anyone else their needs will always come first and that the hallmark of a narcissist. Rebecca Christianson [08:14]: So I'm going to quote Shahida Arabi who wrote, Becoming the Narcissist Nightmare, because this is my favorite quote about narcissist. It says, "The first thing you must know about a narcissist is that you will never truly know anything about the narcissist." Alyssa Scolari [08:30]: Ugh. Yes, yes. That's it, case closed. End of episode. Rebecca Christianson [08:37]: Closed, there you go. You'll never really know. And I really believe that because they don't know. They've created such a false self that they don't even remember why they became a narcissist. One of the questions I get all the time is like, "Can a narcissist heal? Can they get better?" And the answer to that's, yes. Rarely do they do the work that's required to get better, but they can. But that would be going back to the childhood trauma, whatever happened that made them realize that they felt they needed to manipulate their environment to get their needs met, that they were not lovable enough to get their needs met just by being who they were. Rebecca Christianson [09:29]: And that's so painful. Usually by the time they show up in our office, that's so painful that they rarely do that. But the times that I've seen narcissists actually do that work is either they have a terminal illness, and because they have never truly been able to connect authentically with anyone, they don't have very many people who are going to take care of them. Or they've had such a traumatic loss in their life that it's shocked them to their core. And they don't want to continue to live that way. Rebecca Christianson [10:03]: So, those are the times. But I think how it would show up, you said a lot of the things, I think that when you notice somebody has the inability to empathize with you or with other people at all, like if you have a friend that's a narcissist and you tell them they have the inability to empathize, but they understand people, so they can fake empathy. They can... Alyssa Scolari [10:30]: Yes. They're typically very, very charming. Rebecca Christianson [10:34]: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Alyssa Scolari [10:34]: But when it comes to empathy, it could look like you confide in a friend about something and or you tell a friend something, right? And if that friend goes, "Oh, well they deserved it. They deserved it. They had that coming." Right? Or it could be, this person responds in a way that's like completely ignores what you're talking about and shifts the focus onto them. "Oh, well, when I was that age, it was even harder for me. Babababa." Rebecca Christianson [11:07]: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Alyssa Scolari [11:07]: Yeah. Rebecca Christianson [11:07]: Yep. Or they will fake empathy if they think that's going to get them something. So they'll be like, "Oh, that was a hard day at work." And like this, whatever it is, because they think that they're going to get something out of that. So sometimes they'll fake empathy to get their own need met at the end of the day. And then if that doesn't happen, they get angry. So the inability to authentically apologize, see hallmark up. You notice that somebody cannot take accountability. They will skirt accountability for something that they have done that has hurt the other person or isn't right or whatever. They cannot authentically apologize. Rebecca Christianson [11:47]: You said this before, but it will always be somebody else's fault. There will always be a reason why they cannot take accountability and authentically apologize. Also hallmark of when you notice that with someone that you're around or involved with, that's definitely a hallmark sign. And then if you confront them, they become extremely angry. Rebecca Christianson [12:11]: In fact, there's a term called Narcissistic Rage. And that's if they perceive their ego as being challenged, some people have narcissistic rage. And then you did a podcast earlier that I listened to about gaslighting. This is where gaslighting comes in. They're unable to take accountability. So they will gaslight at all costs. And it becomes, because they're usually extremely bright and charming, it can become almost impossible to pick up on the gaslighting. Rebecca Christianson [12:47]: Some people are so good at that, that your head is spinning and you don't even understand what just happened. It's not until you tell somebody outside of that interaction or relationship that they might be able to see, "I think they were gaslighting you." Because it's real, some people become really good, they become professionals at not taking accountability. Rebecca Christianson [13:14]: And the thing about, again, they're very intuitive, very perceptive, very charming, and very bright. So they will learn things about you, your Achilles heel, your soft spots, and that's where they're going to hit. So when they gaslight you, it's not going to be always about the actual thing they're not taking accountability for. They're going to gaslight you and hit where they know it hurts so that you will be blindsided, taken off guard, all these other things. So ultimately they don't have to take accountability. Rebecca Christianson [13:47]: I think those, and then you mentioned self-absorbed, always bringing the conversation back to themselves. I feel like if you're in a relationship or a friendship or a work relationship with somebody who has more than one of those characteristics, they are probably a narcissist. Alyssa Scolari [14:05]: Red flags, red flags, red flags, red flags. Yeah. And I think gaslighting is the narcissists best friend. Best friend, that is their biggest tool. And as you're kind of saying all this, I feel like now's a really good time to read the Narcissist's Prayer. So this perfectly, for the listeners out there, reflects everything that Rebecca is saying and then some. It's like, The narcissist's prayer is, and by the way I did not write this. And I actually don't know who wrote this. I tried to look it up and there's a couple different versions of it, but I don't know. It says the author is unknown when it comes to this specific version of it. Alyssa Scolari [14:50]: But the Narcissist's Prayer is, "That didn't happen. And if it did, it is not a big deal. And if it was a big deal, then it was not my fault. And if it was my fault, well, then I didn't mean it. And if I did mean it, then you deserved it. Now this conversation is over. I am done talking about it." Rebecca Christianson [15:12]: I think that says it perfectly. And so many people, here's the thing about narcissists, right? So many people, as you were saying, all of the kind of DSM-IV criteria, I think two things. I think one on a bad day, we all feel selfish, right? It's normal to have moments of time where we feel selfish, that's normal. But we feel remorse and regret when that selfishness might have been at the expense of someone else. But there's remorse, there's guilt or shame. Rebecca Christianson [15:48]: Narcissists do not feel guilt or shame for that. They are self-absorbed to a pathological point, and you said that in the beginning and I wanted to reiterate that, they're not just having a selfish day. They're not just self-absorbed about the promotion they want at work. It's a way of living for them. It's to a pathological point. Rebecca Christianson [16:11]: And I think we all have narcissist in our lives and it's hard. It's hard because when you get close to, and I know Part Two is going to be more about the relationship with the narcissist, but when you get close to putting up a boundary with a narcissist, they love bomb. And when they love bomb, it feels as if they've heard you and they understand the error of their ways. Rebecca Christianson [16:36]: They don't say that because they can't take accountability. It just feels that way. And then you're hooked again. Then you're hooked again. And these characteristics will show up again. So if you think you're in a relationship or have a friend or a work relationship where you're in, or you think they're a narcissist, and you start to point that out or you start to set different boundaries because that doesn't feel good, and they make you feel like they understand the error of their ways they want to change. But these show back up again, run, run because they're a narcissist. Alyssa Scolari [17:13]: Run far. Rebecca Christianson [17:14]: And they just love bombed you. And now you're going to be right back in the same cycle. And gaslighting is, I think, the number one way that narcissists manipulate, but they also use silent treatment. Alyssa Scolari [17:25]: Yes. Rebecca Christianson [17:26]: Silence actually sets off the same pain receptors as physical pain. Alyssa Scolari [17:33]: Oh, I did not know that. It makes sense. Rebecca Christianson [17:36]: It does. Giving someone the silent treatment sets off the same pain receptors as actual physical pain in our brain. It's so painful to be ignored, rejected, abandoned to feel those feelings to suddenly have silence. So it's also a huge manipulation tactic for narcissists. Rebecca Christianson [17:54]: Stonewalling, the end of the prayer that you read, "And I am done with this relationship," refusing to talk about things is also a huge manipulation tactic. And then comparison. So they need the attention from everyone, right? So they will often compare what you're giving to what other people, past girl friends, other people that they are in their lives can give them, can feed them. So another huge manipulation tactic is to compare what you're offering to other people, whether that's imagined or real, to get you to up your ante, to get you to do more. Alyssa Scolari [18:38]: Yeah. And I also think that another too, well, you mentioned the love bombing, right? And for folks out there who may not have heard of this phrase before or may have heard of it, and don't quite know what it is love bombing is, again, the narcissist isn't taking accountability for his or her or their actions, but they are showering you with gifts, showering you with affection, spending money, maybe money that they don't even have, on you. Alyssa Scolari [19:06]: Suddenly you have that Prada bag that you have always wanted. Suddenly they are paying for you to go on a trip. Suddenly, you've been asking for three years to go and visit, I don't know, the state of Vermont in the fall because it's beautiful and guess what? All of a sudden you're going there. And they might be showering with you with words of affection as well, "I love you. You're so important to me." They tell you everything, like Rebecca said, that you want to hear, that makes you think that they have taken accountability and seen the error of their ways. But without them actually having to say that, right? So that's love bombing. Alyssa Scolari [19:41]: But then the other thing that I always see with narcissists is their attempt at isolation, right? So yes, also the comparison, but they will also do this thing where they will make you feel like you're alone in the world. And they might say very subtle things like, "Oh, did you see the weird way your friend was looking at you there?" Rebecca Christianson [20:06]: Yeah. Alyssa Scolari [20:06]: Right? "Did you see the way she rolled her eyes when you guys were talking? Do you really think she's a good friend?" When I was in a relationship with a narcissist, he would tell me time and time again, that my family hated me, that they hated me. And after a while, and he wouldn't sit me down and say, "Alyssa, your family hates you." But it was very subtle. It would be, "Huh? Are you sure you're okay with the way your mom said this?" And, "Are you sure you don't feel some kind of way about the way your dad said that." And, "Oh, well, I heard that your friend, so and so, said this about you." These very seemingly small things that suddenly, before you know it, have you feeling like you can't trust anyone else, but the narcissist. Rebecca Christianson [20:53]: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Alyssa Scolari [20:54]: Do you agree with that? Did I explain that correctly? Rebecca Christianson [20:55]: I totally agree. Yes, I absolutely agree. They will... Until they're the only one that you trust, but they never, ever go, it's never going to actually be about you, it's always going to be about them. And the reason they do that is so that they don't have competition so that when you don't have anyone to say, "You know, he said or she said this to me." And for them to say, "That's gaslighting. They're gaslighting you." Or like, "That's not okay. They're breaking you down. You're not yourself." Rebecca Christianson [21:37]: Isolate you from everyone that can give you perspective, so that they are your only perspective, because they'll isolate you from anyone who can challenge them. Especially anyone whose smart enough to see what they're doing. Alyssa Scolari [21:54]: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Rebecca Christianson [21:56]: Yep. I think that whenever... Another kind of hallmark I feel like I see a lot in people who come in and they're in a relationship with a narcissist is, they want to change. If you feel like you want to change or teach the person you're in a relationship with something, like about being a decent human, if you feel like they just don't understand how to treat people properly or be nice or kind, right? Sometimes people will say, "I just don't think that they understand." It always is a red flag to me. My ears always perk up and I start to listen because you shouldn't have to teach a normal person how to be decent and respect people. If you're in an adult relationship, you shouldn't have to, that's something that you teach toddlers. That's not something that you should teach an adult. Rebecca Christianson [22:54]: They should know that. That should be... So if you feel that way, be careful, because narcissists can't learn that. Alyssa Scolari [23:04]: Yes. Rebecca Christianson [23:04]: They do not get something from being inherently kind. If they're kind it's to feed their ego. It's to get something fed. It's not just about, it's never about the other person. So that's something else. It's like a hallmark in relationships when you feel like, "Oh, I just don't think they... They just don't understand how they come across." They know exactly how they come across and they're being an asshole to your friends because they don't want you to be in those friendships because those people are picking up on the fact that they're a narcissist. So it's all manipulation. Alyssa Scolari [23:41]: Absolutely. 1000%. 1000%. I think you make a really good point there. And I think before we wrap up with this Part One today, and we're going to get into more on the next episode about some differences between covert and an overt narcissists and what does narcissistic abuse look like in the victim? What are some of the longterm effects of that? What does treatment look like? We're going to talk about that in the next episode, but I also, before we close out, I really wanted to say that it's important for you guys to remember out there that this narcissism is defined by a pattern. Because you could take any one of these things in an isolated incident, and it might not necessarily mean somebody is a narcissist, right? Alyssa Scolari [24:27]: Like Rebecca said, we all have selfish tendencies. Being selfish isn't a bad thing at times, right? We all can be self-absorbed. So in an isolated incident, I don't want you to see this and then think immediately of this podcast and go, "Oh my gosh, this must be a narcissist." Because that's not necessarily the case. It is a pattern, a consistent pattern, so please keep that in mind. Alyssa Scolari [24:54]: And with that being said, I think, unless there's anything else you wanted to add today, Rebecca, I feel like this might be a good place to wrap up with this episode. And then... Rebecca Christianson [25:09]: I think that's great. I think that in our next episode, I want to touch a little bit on, this is something you and I talked about, the covert versus overt narcissist. I do think a lot of times, there are like closet narcissist and sometimes that gets missed and people are in unhealthy relationships. But we can definitely start with that, pick that up, next time. Rebecca Christianson [25:32]: And then start to talk about, there is some interesting characteristics that narcissists look for in people. I think sometimes victims of narcissists feel like there must be something wrong with them, but actually narcissists choose really intelligent victims. And they choose people who have really good qualities that are usually very intelligent. That'll also be a great topic to pick up with next time. Alyssa Scolari [25:58]: Perfect. So at that, I think we are going to wrap up and we will be back with the second part of this series next week. 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Emily & Meg explore what is at the root of toxic relationships. They examine why they feel a pull toward them in their personal life and the two tips they use to recognize when they are dealing with a toxic person: tuning in to our bodies after an interchange & journaling the objective facts and the “story” I have created about this person/relationship. “We all have traits of these toxic patterns within us. But the difference is that we are self-aware and curious about them.” “What you didn't get from your parents, the ways we didn't get witnessed by them, we now seek in our partner.” “It feels like me grasping instead of being in my power.” “Sometimes we meet toxic people in life who teach us lessons, depending on how self-aware we are. Then it's time to move on" “We are actually two people - the child within and the parent. We now have the power to get out of our victim/story mode” “If you check-in with yourself after an interaction and you feel drained, exhausted, or polluted, that's a sign you just had a toxic interchange.” “If I just study more, read more, it becomes a protection measure and another perfectionistic tendency….it's a self-correcting tendency, which blocks us from tuning in.” “We are primed by movies and the cultural implications of those and we grow up to think about toxic foreplay as romantic.” “Seeking what we need from the wrong people is due to something in us we need to heal. What is the original source of that drive?" “Maybe you aren't a ‘loser' because you attract toxic relationships. It might be that you are amazing at relationships. It's not just as simple as: you want something from them emotionally. They want something from you, too" “I am going to look at my responsibility and see if i can change the dynamic. But sometimes you have to just get the f*ck away from these people without feeling guilty.” “As soon as the word ‘should' comes out of your mouth, then you know you "should" be checking-in with yourself.” “Instead of saying ‘should' say ‘could.'” References from the episode: “Opposites Attract” by Paula Abdul “Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places” by Johnny Lee Nicola Tesla Inner Bonding Epigenetics Bonobos Monkeys Tyler Shulz “Tricky” by RunDMC For further exploration, we loved this book: The Highly Sensitive Person's Guide to Dealing with Toxic People: How to Reclaim Your Power from Narcissists and Other Manipulators by Shahida Arabi, MA Original Art by Meg Miller
What is the narcissist's mask, and what's behind it? In this episode, which expands upon the previous one, I continue to examine the phenomenon of narcissistic partner abuse by analyzing the relationship of a reality TV couple (Jax & Brittany) through an offshoot of the reality TV show Vanderpump Rules. This episode is for survivors of partner abuse, and for the people who love us. If you suspect you or a loved one are in an abusive relationship, I encourage you to listen, and to check out any/all of the following resources:The National Domestic Violence Hotline - for survivor support & informational material in English & Spanish, visit thehotline.org (for immediate help in English/Spanish, call 800-799-SAFE [7233] - TTY: 800-787-3224)The Network/La Red - for queer-specific survivor support & information, visit tnlr.org (for immediate help, call 1-800-832-1901)Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare - this book by narcissistic abuse survivor Shahida Arabi is jam-packed with information and resources about the phenomenon of narcissistic abuse and its effect on survivorsEnding Abuse Cycles - my informational youtube playlistLet's stay connected!Join my free newsletter, follow me on Instagram, and visit astrippersguide.com for resources & offerings.LeilahFounder of A Stripper's Guide
One of the scariest ironies of partner abuse: the survivor's own friends often protect the abuser, because they are the abuser's friends, too. If the survivor and the abuser are in the same social circles, the people in those circles often see the abusive dynamic and, instead of enforcing social consequences for the abuser, they enable the abuser by continuing to hang out with them. In this episode, I examine this extremely common, extremely dangerous phenomenon by following a couple (Jax & Brittany) through a season of the reality TV show Vanderpump Rules. This episode is for survivors of partner abuse, and for the people who love us. If you suspect you or a loved one are in an abusive relationship, I encourage you to listen, and to check out any/all of the following resources:The National Domestic Violence Hotline - for survivor support & informational material in English & Spanish, visit thehotline.org (for immediate help in English/Spanish, call 800-799-SAFE [7233] - TTY: 800-787-3224)The Network/La Red - for queer-specific survivor support & information, visit tnlr.org (for immediate help, call 1-800-832-1901)Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare - this book by narcissistic abuse survivor Shahida Arabi is jam-packed with information and resources about the phenomenon of narcissistic abuse and its effect on survivorsLet's stay connected!Join my free newsletter, follow me on Instagram, and visit astrippersguide.com for resources & offerings.LeilahFounder of A Stripper's Guide
Never underestimate the effect of having a narcissistic parent or partner! Resist the urge to downplay the verbal and emotional abuse. You're not supposed to be abused...by anyone!!! Today, I'm sharing some ways to recognize your own trauma, so you can take steps away from it...whether you leave or not. Shahida Arabi, talking about childhood abuse and trauma, wrote in her article, What It's Like To Be A Complex Trauma Survivor of Narcissistic Abuse: "Survivors carry a sense of toxic shame, helplessness, and a feeling of separateness from others, of being different and defective due to trauma." If you have experienced childhood abuse and/or trauma, you are more likely to attract a potentially abusive partner. Sad news, I know. And, at some deeper levels, you may be "comfortably uncomfortable" with it, at least for a while. It's important to recognize your own trauma, and then to work it through so that you are no longer operating from it subconsciously. Today's episode will definitely help.Big hugs!RhobertaHIGHLIGHTS OF TODAY'S EPISODE:How trauma interferes with your brain, learning, decision-making, and memoryWhy you don't associate current issues with past trauma What trauma bonds are and how they keep you trappedSigns of past traumaRecognizing trauma for what it isUnderstanding the impact of trauma now and from the past Want clarity, insights, strategies, and support from me, Dr. Rhoberta Shaler? We can talk: Introductory session for new clients, $97CONNECT WITH ME: I invite you to like my pages and follow for further help with recognizing toxic relationships, realizing their impact, realigning your life, and recovering your self-confidence and ability to love and trust again.FOLLOW DR. SHALER...WEBSITE: https://www.ForRelationshipHelp.comPODCAST: http://www.SaveYourSanityPodcast.comFACEBOOK: https://www.Facebook.com/RelationshipHelpDoctorTWITTER: https://www.Twitter.com/RhobertaShalerLINKEDIN: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/RhobertaShalerINSTAGRAM: https://www.Instagram.com/DrRhobertaShalerPINTEREST: https://www.Pinterest.com/RhobertaShalerYOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/ForRelationshipHelp-------------------------------------------------------------I WANT TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT!If you want to learn more, share, ask questions, and feel more powerful within yourself and your relationships. Join my Support Circles now.Off social media, safe discussion + videos + articles + webinars + personal home study program + group Saturday Support Calls with me.WOW! Join now. Dr. Shaler's Relationship Help Circles. 50% off your first month. . Safely off social media.----------------------------------------------------------------------#narcissistictrauma #emotionaltrauma #relationshiptrauma #raisedbyanarcissist #tramatizedbymymother #familytrauma #savemysanity #saveyoursanity #relationshipadvice #tipsforrelationships #Hijackals #toxicpeople #mentalhealthmatters #MHNRNetwork #RhobertaShaler #narcissists #borderlines #antisocial #difficultpeople #emotionalabuse #verbalabuse #stoptoleratingabuse #toxicrelationships #manipulation #walkingoneggshells #mentalhealth #emotionalhealth #abuse #narcissisticabuse #boundaries #personalitydisorder #difficultpeople #antisocialbehavior #lackingempathy #journorequest #prrequest See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
This week’s episode is about trauma bonding. I’ve been doing a lot of research on trauma bonding recently because it comes up with so many of my clients and members of my groups. In doing the research I realized that I had a trauma bond in a relationship that ended only five and a half years ago. What this means is that a good five years into my coaching career, fifteen years into my codependency recovery, and well into my divorce, I slipped down this rabbit-hole myself. According to Shahida Arabi, author of the amazing book, Becoming the Narcissist’s Nightmare, a trauma bond is: “A bond that forms due to intense, emotional experiences, usually with a toxic person. Similar to Stockholm Syndrome, it holds us emotionally captive to a manipulator who keeps us “hostage” – whether that be through physical or emotional abuse.” Trauma bonding can happen to anyone, especially those of us who are pre-conditioned to be drawn to relationships that are abusive or in some way reflective of past or childhood traumas. And let me be absolutely clear: There’s no shame in this, but there is great power in seeing the trauma bond for what it is, because only then can we begin to break free of it. Here are just a few of the topics I touch on in this episode: How to recognize a trauma bond: I share the story of my own trauma bonded relationship, which, surprisingly, was NOT with my ex-husband. How to heal from a trauma bond: To break free of a trauma bond, professional help in the form of psychotherapy and life coaching is always highly recommended. How to co-parent when healing from a trauma bond: when parallel parenting is better than co-parenting. This is a deep, dense, and intense topic. Please be gentle with yourself as you process this, and be sure to let me know if you need help breaking a trauma bond. Resources & Links: Private Coaching Consult with MeShould I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group Becoming the Narcissist’s NightmareThe High-Conflict Co-Parenting Survival GuideBIFF: Quick Responses to High-Conflict People, Their Personal Attacks, Hostile Email, and Social Media MeltdownsHigh-Conflict Divorce for WomenMagic Words: How to Get What You Want from a Narcissist DSG Episode: Surviving Abuse with Mickie Zada
Thinking Thursday’s are about critically thinking, breaking out of boxes, and discussing new ways we could live this life together. Narcissistic abuse plagues us long after we recognize the damage and break off the relationship. Are you doing things that are sabotaging your life without knowing it? MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 9 Things People Don’t Realize You’re Doing Because You’ve Been Abused By A Narcissist By Shahida Arabi BOOKS:Nothing Mentioned Today THIS EPISODES SHOW NOTES: THINKING THURSDAY: Things You Don’t Realize You Are Doing Because You Were Abused By A Narcissist: Zac Gandara: Shahida Arabi LOSER DEALS: Save 50% on QuickBooks Online and QuickBooks Self-Employed Thinking Thursday: Thinking Thursday is about learning how to think. We live in a world where people like to tell us what to think, but has anyone taught us how to think? Examining the worlds greatest thinkers is a great place to start. Send us thinkers you'd like us to feature. Call 206-395-5608 and leave us a message. E-Mail us zacg@LosingOurReligion.org or message any of our social pages (links below). DO YOU LOVE THE PODCAST? JOIN US WITH SUPPORT. Support the podcast by leaving us a Rating & Review on iTunes or your podcast app. Donate to the Podcast through PayPal, Venmo, or Cash App! Join the CounterCulture Society and become a Producer through our Patreon. FOLLOW US: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LosingOurReligionPodcast.com. RECEIVE WEEKLY EMAIL CONTENT: Join our email list. This podcast is produced by select producers and created by @ZacGandara & the CounterCulture Society™.
When a deep injury is done to us, we never heal until we forgive …” – Nelson Mandela In this episode, I begin by sharing an essay I wrote called The Eight Secrets of Emotional Self-Care. In it, I detail the basics on how to go through this life for maximum serenity and happiness. Because there are certain ways we get lost if we let ourselves … so here’s a roadmap you can hang on to. I follow with my own thoughts on forgiveness. It’s a tricky topic, right? So often forgiving someone is the last thing we want to do. And yet. This really IS the way back to having a peaceful, free and happy life. I tell the story here of forgiving someone who I felt did me wrong … and what I learned in the process. This episode ends with a 20-minute healing meditation that will help you find a path back to forgiving those people/places/things that have challenged you. You’ll also learn Why it’s so hard to forgive in the first place The cost of refusing to forgive The Buddhist parableof the second arrow Disabling beliefs about forgiveness A note on waiting for apologies The incredible value of forgiving A roadmap for forgiveness in relationships How to forgive someone who you need to avoid or have no contact with The big question — Can you forgive yourself? RESOURCES Link to Shahida Arabi’s book Becoming the Narcissist’s Nightmare Thanks for listening!
A NO CONTACT IS FOR YOU! IT IS ALL ABOUT YOUR WELLBEING. It is to remove the abuser or toxic person from your life. Shahida Arabi said it best, “a no contact is the key that locks out that person from ever entering our hearts, mind, and spirit in any palpable way again” This means you are not in contact via phone, emails, texts, and all social media platform. What to do before establishing a No contact: self development, therapeutic resolution, and low contact. How do you maintain a “No contact: is by blocking the toxic person or parent, engaging in a pleasurable and self-developing activities, and reading books about “no Contact” to gain knowledge. Www.willieverbegoodenough.com. Mental health administrative 1800-662-4357. Crisis hot line 1800-273-8255. Www.reddit.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/zainab-sheikma-kanu/support
Shahida Arabi is a summa cum laude graduate of Columbia University graduate school and a four-time bestselling author. Her bestselling books include The Smart Girl's Guide to Self-Care and Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare: How to Devalue and Discard the Narcissist While Supplying Yourself, featured as a a #1 Amazon Bestseller for 16 consecutive months after its release, and POWER: Surviving and Thriving, featured as a #1 Amazon Bestseller in Applied Psychology. Her writing has been featured on Salon, Psych Central, The Huffington Post, The National Domestic Violence Hotline, MOGUL, Yoganonymous, Elephant Journal, Dollhouse Magazine, The West 4th Street Review, Thought Catalog, the Feministing Community blog, and Harvard-trained psychologist Dr. Monica O'Neal's website. Her interests include psychology, sociology, education, gender studies and mental health advocacy. She studied English Literature and Psychology as an undergraduate student at NYU, where she graduated summa cum laude and was President of its National Organization for Women (NOW) chapter. Her viral blog articles, "Five Powerful Ways Abusive Narcissists Get Inside Your Head," and "20 Diversion Tactics Highly Manipulative Narcissists, Sociopaths and Psychopaths Use To Silence You" have been shared worldwide and her work has been endorsed and shared by numerous clinical psychologists, mental health practitioners, bestselling authors, and award-winning bloggers.www.selfcarehaven.wordpress.com
This week I share the traits and behaviors, lies and actions that Narcissistic Parents are guilty of and I give you juicy bits of advice to overcome the effects of being raised by parents with NPD. I use information from Sheenie Amardar, MD, the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Medical Disorders, 5th Edition, author Shahida Arabi's books "Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare: How To Devalue & Discard the Narcissist" and "POWER: Surviving & Thriving After Narcissistic Abuse" and Sarah Blondin's Live Awake podcast on the Insight Timer app. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dalai-momma/support
Inspired by Shahida Arabi's incredible article 5 SIGNS YOU’RE DEALING WITH A NARCISSISTIC “HEALER,” THERAPIST OR GURU join Evelyn Ryan and Kristin Walker to discuss what you need to watch out for. Part II of one of our best shows on this timely topic and based on real life events with toxic "healers", every person affected by the ridiculous, absurd, and dangerous emotional rapists that are the truly disordered needs to listen to this show. Evelyn Ryan is the author of Take Your Power Back: Healing Lessons, Tips, and Tools for Abuse Survivors and life coach for narcissistic abuse survivors at www.yourlifelifter.com. Kristin Walker is the host of Mental Health News Radio and CEO of Mental Health News Radio Network.
Inspired by Shahida Arabi's incredible article 5 SIGNS YOU’RE DEALING WITH A NARCISSISTIC “HEALER,” THERAPIST OR GURU join Evelyn Ryan and Kristin Walker to discuss what you need to watch out for. Part I of one of our best shows on this timely topic and based on real life events with toxic "healers", every person affected by the ridiculous, absurd, and dangerous emotional rapists that are the truly disordered needs to listen to this show. Evelyn Ryan is the author of Take Your Power Back: Healing Lessons, Tips, and Tools for Abuse Survivors and life coach for narcissistic abuse survivors at www.yourlifelifter.com. Kristin Walker is the host of Mental Health News Radio and CEO of Mental Health News Radio Network.
Shahida Arabi joins podcaster Melanie Vann of www.memiorsofmadness.com and host Kristin Walker to discuss the #metoo movement and how triggering but necessesary it is to talk about rape culture. It's being dismantled and we've been targeted, harrassed, maligned, and revictimized for talking about it. But - #nowisthetime. We give thanks to the millions of women whose shoulders we stand upon in order to use our voices.Shahida is a graduate of Columbia University graduate school and is the author of three #1 Amazon Bestsellers. Her bestselling books include The Smart Girl's Guide to Self-Care, a #1 Bestseller in Women's Personal Growth and Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare, which was featured as a #1 Amazon bestseller in three different categories and has been a #1 Amazon Bestseller in Personality Disorders for 12 consecutive months after its release. Her new book, POWER: Surviving and Thriving After Narcissistic Abuse, was also featured as a #1 Amazon Bestseller in Applied Psychology.Her interests include psychology, sociology, education, gender studies and mental health advocacy. She studied English Literature and Psychology as an undergraduate student at NYU, where she graduated summa cum laude and was President of its National Organization for Women (NOW) chapter. Her viral blog entries, "Five Powerful Ways Abusive Narcissists Get Inside Your Head," and "20 Diversion Tactics Highly Manipulative Narcissists, Sociopaths and Psychopaths Use to Silence You" have been shared worldwide and her work has been endorsed and shared by numerous clinical psychologists, mental health practitioners, bestselling authors, and award-winning bloggers.
This episode comes from the book club discussion on "Becoming the Narcissist's Nightmare" by Shahida Arabi. You can find this book and others that we've read by going to www.amazon.com/shop/thriveafterabuse The book club meets on my YouTube channel (Thrive After Abuse) the last Thursday of every month at 6:30om EST, so if you'd like to participate in the chat, come on over. :) My first book, “Start Here: A Crash Course in Understanding, Navigating, and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse" is finally out! You can find the ebook version on Amazon by going to amazon.com/shop/thriveafterabuse . This book helps to provide definitions to the most common (and important) words and concepts surrounding narcissistic abuse, as well as FAQs, and much, much more. Print and audible books are in progress and will hopefully be out by the end of November 2017. Have a question you'd like answered in a future podcast episode or YouTube video? If so, send me an email me at: deardana@thriveafterabuse.com (make sure to use a name that you feel comfortable with me putting on the air). The live streams happen every Wednesday at 8:30pm EST over on my YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/thriveafterabuse and they run for about 3 hours. If you are looking for support, I have two support groups (both are free). The first one is on my website: www.thriveafterabuse.com/forum and the second one is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/HealingAfterNarcissisticAbuse (it is a closed group, but please make sure to read the group rules before you post so that you can change any privacy settings you may need to in order to stay safe). Looking for daily motivation, inspiration, or more information about narcissism in general? You can find me (Dana Morningstar) at: Facebook/ThriveAfterAbuse YouTube/ThriveAfterAbuse Instagram/ThriveAfterAbuse ThriveAfterAbuse.com
Join host Andrea Schneider, MSW, LCSW and writer/life coach/survivor Shahida Arabi as we discuss evidence-based and trauma-informed theory and interventions for survivors of narcissistic abuse in family-of-origin and adult romantic relationships. Shahida Arabi shares her perceptions and experiences as a survivor and prolific writer on the intersection of complex trauma in childhood and how exposure to narcissistic abuse during such a vulnerable time can prime the survivor for the familiarity of narcissistic abuse in romantic relationships, as well as friendships or workplace. We discuss how survivors can heal and protect themselves. We also address the difference between trauma bond and co-dependency, and the importance of strengths-focused, empowering language as imperative for survivors in their healing journey and reclamation of their life narrative.http://www.selfcarehaven.org/
Our friend and guest on the show, Shahida Arabi, inspired this podcast. Her articles on Daughters of Narcissistic Fathers can be found here. Definitely a trigger warning for listeners - be prepared prior to listening to this one with counselors Melanie Vann and Melissa Richards joined by host Kristin Sunanta Walker.We highly recommend you visit Shahida's website.