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What if addiction isn't the problem, but the solution to pain you never knew you were carrying? Anita Chellamah looked like she had everything. She appeared on Top of the Pops with Legs & Co, fronted and co-wrote The Cherry Bombz, supported Poison on tour in America, performed at the legendary CBGB in New York and on the Reading Festival Main Stage, was a member of Toto Coelo, who reached No. 6 in the UK charts and No. 4 in Australia, and became one of the first presenters on Sky Television and one of its first presenters of colour, hosting her own shows and performing Sky's 5th Anniversary song. From the outside, it looked like success in every direction. Behind the scenes, however, she was quietly battling addiction. At just 19, while performing in the West End production of Bubbling Brown Sugar, she was prescribed amphetamines by a private doctor who was later struck off. By her late twenties, nights began with champagne, continued with cocaine and ended with Night Nurse. At 29, she stopped. She hasn't had a drink or a drug since.Today, Anita is a trauma, addiction and DBT therapist with nearly four decades of sobriety. Qualified since 1998, she works in private practice, receiving referrals and working with organisations including the Priory, Steps Together and Castle Craig, specialising in addiction, trauma and Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT) with individuals, couples, families and groups. Anita explains why rock bottom rarely looks like the movies, why childhood trauma, shame and emotional pain so often drive addiction, and why recovery is about far more than simply putting down the drink or the drug.We explore the hidden links between trauma, ADHD, binge drinking, cocaine addiction, alcoholism, codependency, self-worth, mental health, emotional regulation and long-term recovery. Anita shares how recovery transformed not only her relationship with alcohol and drugs, but also the way she understands herself, her emotions and the world around her.The conversation also tackles some of the biggest debates in recovery today, including trauma therapy, 12-step fellowships, medication in recovery, antidepressants, ADHD medication, relapse prevention, addictive personality and why there is no single path that works for everyone. Nearly 40 years sober, Anita's humility, honesty and wisdom offer hope to anyone wondering whether lasting recovery from addiction and alcoholism is really possible.Oliver is an ambassador for Alcohol Change UK and you can access support here - https://tinyurl.com/5dt5773eThank you to Gavin Sisters for sponsoring this episode! Visit -www.gavinsisters.co.ukand use promo code SCHOOLOFROCKBOTTOM for 10% off!Podcasting is an expensive passion. To help me keep going, I'd really appreciate it if you could buy me a coffee, thank you!https://buymeacoffee.com/olivermason1Or via PayPal - https://www.paypal.me/olivermason1paypalTopics -0:00 Trailer & Intro2:55 A rock bottom moment 5:25 Binge drinking & progression9:25 Childhood 12:45 ADHD and intrusive thoughts 14:30 Using performing arts as medicine 17:25 Access vs genetics 18:45 Dealing with denial 20:15 Recovery in 198825:35 Do all addicts have trauma?30:35 We are all different 33:35 How therapy helped Anita 38:25 WE ARE NOT DOCTORS!43:50 Still an addict after 38 years?48:20 Humility & labels 51:35 Addictive personality & escape?57:20 Boundaries Follow Anitahttps://www.instagram.com/anitachellamahFollow OliverInstagram - https://tinyurl.com/2vt29sjvFacebook - https://tinyurl.com/34cwz59rTikTok - https://tinyurl.com/ujw4vxn9LinkedIn - https://tinyurl.com/yuemhnd7Threads - https://tinyurl.com/yk7vdeahX - https://tinyurl.com/3u5mnpdsPlease subscribe, follow, like, leave a review and comment!YouTube - https://tinyurl.com/y5bwbcaySpotify - https://tinyurl.com/58jp2jyjApple - https://tinyurl.com/y3n2chk3#Addiction #Recovery #Sobriety
BPD Raw is a collection of letters from people living with Borderline Personality Disorder — in their own words, preserved as honestly as possible. Dene visits the pod to talk about his story with BPD and how he's starting a collection of letters, poetry, etc. from OUR voices to eventually be published. Write your letter here: https://bpdraw.com/Send us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
In this episode of the State of Mind Mental Health Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Dhruva Gulur, a physician whose life reads like several lives stacked on top of each other. Dhruva walks me through a childhood shaped by his mother's schizophrenia, his father's rage, and the abuse that filled their home in Juneau, Alaska. He tells me how he landed in juvenile detention three times, drifted into gangs in Seattle, and then, after his father brought him to India, somehow earned seven scholarships into medical school. We talk honestly about what came next: becoming a doctor while carrying deep self-loathing, the drinking and drug use he hid from everyone, and the cocaine-induced manic episode that nearly cost him his career, his home, and his life. From there, Dhruva shares the practices that helped him rebuild, including what he calls mind hygiene, a daily writing habit he uses to catch blame, resentment, and self-criticism before they take over. We get into identity change, self-compassion, the shift from a fixed mindset to full surrender, and his provocative belief that real healing sometimes asks us to sit alone with ourselves. As someone who has spent years in my own recovery and inner work, I push back on a few things, share pieces of my own story, and we land somewhere honest about how change actually happens. If you have ever felt stuck in old patterns of blame, shame, or self-criticism, this is a raw, deeply human conversation about turning pain into purpose. Learn about him here: https://dhruvamd.com/ [00:00:00] Cold open: hijacked before 6 a.m. [00:04:33] A Juneau childhood: abuse, addiction, and a home full of self-hatred [00:09:11] The courtroom, India, and seven scholarships into med school [00:13:30] A father's sabotage — and narcissistic traits vs. the real disorder [00:18:00] Becoming a doctor, hitting bottom, and a cocaine-induced manic episode [00:22:33] Everything he tried: AA, CBT, DBT, EMDR, and 60 coaches [00:27:00] "Mind hygiene" — writing his way out of self-hatred [00:31:49] Can you heal alone? The case for solitude (and my pushback) [00:38:04] The seduction of blame, the 6 a.m. spiral, and quitting sugar [00:42:56] A day in the life: Denver mornings, relationships, and surrender [00:48:00] The Jordan mindset: fixed, growth, acceptance, surrender [00:53:53] Self-compassion, identity alchemy, and final reflections Remember: live with courage, clarity, and compassion, practice inner strength, and develop within. If this one resonated, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share it with someone who might need it. Free 1-month of the Meditation App - Waking Up 30 Day Free Pass Please Subscribe to my YouTube - YouTube Subscription Link Disclaimer Professional medical care and psychotherapeutic services are not offered on this Youtube channel. It is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such condition. Seeking professional support is encouraged if you think you have an issue and that you want help.
Dr. Krista Scott-Dixon is a trained counselor specializing in the psychology of behavior change, with certifications including motivational interviewing, solution-focused, DBT, CBT, and trauma counseling.She's the author of numerous books and accredited nutrition, sleep, stress, and recovery courses. She is our go-to performance psych and works one-on-one with many of our clients seeking to sharpen the mental and emotional skills needed to handle some of the toughest training courses in the world.She's an invaluable resource for our clients and has played a critical role in the careers of many special operators. In this episode, we're talking to KSD about the grieving process. Typically, we think of grief as the emotional state following a loss like the death of a friend or loved one, but the process is surprisingly similar to other forms of loss, such as the emotional impact of losing out on a major career aspiration, washing out of a selection course, or getting divorced. Additional Resources: What to Know About Grief and LossMore about KSD:Website - kristascottdixon.comCoaching for SOF personnel - https://www.buildingtheelite.com/performance-psych-coaching/KSD's latest book, Applied Nutrition Coaching and Counseling - https://amzn.to/4xXhp0tTimestamps:00:00:22 Introduction to Dr. Krista Scott Dixon00:01:24 Processing Grief in Death/Grief in Setbacks00:11:47 Dealing with the Nature of Death00:18:54 The Brain's Ability to Adjust to Loss00:23:14 Clichés are Infuriating During Grieving00:28:22 Excepting a New Reality 00:31:50 Exposure to Grief in the Military00:36:04 Unhealthy and Problematic Ways of Coping with Loss00:41:57 Chemical Avoidance and Numbing in Grief00:45:19 Communicating Death to Children00:51:37 Advice on Helping with Others' Grief00:58:20 Guidelines for Dealing with Grief from Selection01:04:00 Curling into a Ball or Crawling into a Hole01:06:01 The "What If"s and "If Only"s of Loss01:08:02 Survivor's Guilt01:13:43 Face, Accept, Float, Let Time Pass01:16:21 OutroSend us a message
The hosts share their own personal battles with relational perfectionism and outline how an over-attunement to others can cause a person to completely lose touch with their own identity. This conversation offers a deeply validating look at why we overcommit, how avoidance morphs into procrastination, and practical DBT-based tools to break the cycle. Tune in to Discover: The Root of People Pleasing: Why the automatic urge to say "yes" is actually a survival skill designed to avoid the discomfort of conflict, disapproval, or rejection. Kindness vs. People Pleasing: The critical psychological boundary that separates an intrinsic desire to help from an anxiety-driven fear of loss or obligation. The Irritability Mask: How chronic people pleasing breeds hidden resentment and unmet expectations, frequently surfacing as anxiety-fueled irritability. The Anxiety-Procrastination Loop: How tasks tied to a person's self-worth become emotionally loaded, forcing the brain into a loop of stress, avoidance, and intensified guilt. The Courtroom of Guilt: Why people pleasers naturally adopt an "innocent until proven guilty" mindset in relationships and how to challenge it. Do you have feedback or topic requests? Email us at Podcast@SagentBH.com We'd love to hear from you! Follow along:InstagramFacebookNystrom & Associates
To recieve a free copy of Light in the Darkness, about Shemirat HaEinayim in today's world, email dan.jacobson.psyd@gmail.comSummer turns up the heat on shmiras einayim, and this episode isn't going to fix that. It's an honest conversation about the struggle, with returning guest Dr. Dan Jacobson offering real perspective instead of a quick fix.We get into:Why the trigger itself was never the real issue, and what actually determines what happens nextHow mindfulness (yes, the same tools behind DBT and ACT) offers a different way to hold a hard moment, without pretending it isn't hardWhy chasing a clean scorecard of "success" or "failure" in this area does more harm than goodA sharp Taz on hespedim that reframes the whole question: who you are is what you value, not your track recordWhether tznius really is "the battle of our generation," and what it means to sit with that honestlyPractical thoughts on family vacations and beach trips, without easy answersDan mentions Palouse Mindfulness, a free 8-part course by a student of Jon Kabat-Zinn, for anyone who wants to go deeper on their own.If this conversation was honest in a way you needed, leave a 5-star review. It helps more people find it.
Habt ihr auch manchmal das Gefühl, dass sich der aktuelle Formfaktor von KI noch ein bisschen so anfühlt wie „Kutschen mit Motor“? Dann geht es euch wie dem Berliner KI-Experten und Pandata-Gründer Marco Szeidenleder – und er hat sich deshalb gefragt: Wie sieht das Arbeiten der Zukunft aus, wenn wir KI nicht mehr nur als nettes Add-on in bestehende Tools klatschen, sondern Software von Grund auf AI-first denken? Also hat er PandaOS gegründet und berichtet im Gespräch mit Christoph, wie die Desktop-Anwendung E-Mails, Browser, Coding-Tools und lokale Datenbanken nativ miteinander verknüpft – und wie sie es schafft, dass US-Sprachmodelle Analysen auf Unternehmensdaten fahren können, ohne jemals die echten sensiblen Daten zu Gesicht zu bekommen. Außerdem verrät er, warum ein Data Warehouse eine „Liability“ sein kann und mit welcher Kombination aus Cloud-Datenbank, DBT und Visualisierungstool Unternehmen die Hoheit über ihre Daten behalten.
Today you meet Emily, a therapist who was recently diagnosed with BPD and ADHD who has done A LOT of work in understanding the various parts of her, childhood and adult, that show up in her borderline and how she integrates, embraces, and has compassion for them. A lesson I know I can learn. Thank you Emily for your wisdom and story! Emily's therapy practice in Ontario is called The Curious CollectiveSend us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
Send us a text message if you have a question you want answered on the podcast.Some experiences just stick. No matter how much time passes, or how hard you try to move on, they keep showing up in how you feel about yourself, your relationships, even your ability to hear God. And the frustrating part? You can't just decide to be over it.In this episode, Niki sits down with therapist Allie Allen LCMHC to unpack why painful memories get stored wrong, how anxiety makes it nearly impossible to tell the difference between worry and a prompting, and the therapy tool that has people saying, "It doesn't bother me anymore." _______________________________Get to know our guest:Allie Allen is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor who works with adolescents, adults, and families. She specializes in trauma, anxiety, depression, grief, relationship challenges, and life transitions, using EMDR, IFS, and DBT to help clients heal, better understand themselves, and build healthier patterns with compassion and practical skills.If you're in Utah or Idaho and would like to book a session with Allie, she is currently taking new clients at Aligned Counseling. Website: AlignedCounselingServices.net_______________________________Stick around for more Mental Health support & resources: The LDS Mental Health Podcast: www.ldsmentalhealthco.com/blogFree Resources: www.ldsmentalhealthco.com/free-trainingsLooking for an LDS Therapist? www.alignedcounselingutah.comMy Shop: www.ldsmhc.comFollow on social media for more support and resources: @LDSMentalHealthco Contact Me: www.ldsmentalhealthco.com/site/contact_______________________________A quick note: Niki Olsen is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Therapist and coach who uses mental health skills taught through a spiritual perspective. This is a podcast for faithful women who want healing in their relationships, guidance from God and internal peace. This podcast reflects Niki's personal views and is not affiliated with or endorsed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health care or therapy. If you are in crisis, call 988 or your local emergency services.______________________________________________________________If you've been wanting to feel more connected to God again, join us for the 10 Day Prayer Practice: https://www.ldsmentalhealthco.com/prayer-practice _______________________________Grab your Skill Tap Band HEREwww.LDSMHco.com
Have you ever felt like one small thing turned into ten different emotions before you even knew what happened?In this episode, Xannie, Solène, Madhurima and Dan continue their conversation on emotional lability and go deep into what has actually helped them regulate their emotions instead of getting swept away by them. They talk through the skills, mindsets, and reframes that took years to build, including a metaphor for emotions as delivery drivers that keep showing up until you actually open the package.This one gets into checking the facts versus running with interpretations, why distraction is only useful short term, what “not caring” actually means in practice, and why grief doesn't always show up on schedule.Topics include:* BPD and emotional regulation* Emotional lability in BPD* Wise mind and DBT skills* Checking the facts* Rumination and BPD* Fear of abandonment* Sitting with uncomfortable emotions* BPD recovery and healthier reactionsIf you've ever felt like your emotions were driving your life instead of the other way around, this episode is for you.This season, we're discussing BPD through the lens of the Alternative Model of Personality Disorders (AMPD). To meet criteria for BPD in this model, a person must have difficulties in at least two areas of personality functioning (Criterion A): identity, self direction, empathy, or intimacy, along with four or more pathological personality traits (Criterion B): emotional lability, anxiousness, separation insecurity, and depressivity (which are sub-traits of negative affectivity), impulsivity and risk taking (sub-traits of disinhibition), and hostility (a sub-trait of antagonism).In the first two episodes of the season, Dr. Carla Sharp, Dr. Frank Yeomans, and Dr. Alex Stein explain what the AMPD is, how it changes from the current categorical model, and how the BPD diagnosis is changing. In case you missed it, here are the links:Watch part 1 hereWatch part 2 here___
Rachel is a somatically integrative psychotherapist, dually licensed in counseling and therapeutic massage and bodywork. She is a Certified Advanced Practitioner in Sensorimotor Psychotherapy and has extensive experience working with eating disorders. You'll learn: — The difference between protection and safety and why this matters when treating eating disorders — Rachel's view of eating disorders as the body speaking directly to us about our experience of belonging — The embodied recovery model, the relational cycle, and how these can be applied in treatment — Major things to avoid when working with eating disorders And more. You can learn more about Rachel's work at https://embodiedrecovery.org. --- Rachel Lewis-Marlow (she/her) is the Director of The Embodied Recovery Institute which provides training to interdisciplinary eating disorders treatment teams in trauma-informed, attachment-based, and somatically integrative approaches to eating disorders recovery. Rachel is a somatically integrative psychotherapist, dually licensed in counseling and therapeutic massage and bodywork. She is a Certified Advanced Practitioner in Sensorimotor Psychotherapy and has advanced training and 25+ years of experience in diverse somatic therapies including Craniosacral Therapy, Energetic Osteopathy, Oncology massage, and Aromatherapy. Rachel began her work with eating disorders in Residential, PHP, and IOP treatment programs. There, she developed the Embodying Recovery group therapy protocol which forms the basis for the EMBODIED RECOVERY for EATING DISORDERS (ERED) treatment model. She provided program development, training, and supervision for the implementation of the ERED model to enhance the effectiveness of current best practices, such as DBT, Interpersonal Process, ACT groups. She also developed the Body Wisdom group protocol, an alternative to the traditional body-image group, which focuses on enhancing the mind-body relationship through mindful experience of and through the body. She has extensive experience as a teacher and presenter, focusing on accessing the body's unique capacity to give voice to the subconscious and to lay the foundation for healing and maintaining psychological and physical health. In her private practice in Chapel Hill, NC, Rachel specializes in working with people exploring recovery from trauma, eating disorders, and dissociative disorders. --- Interview Link: — Rachel's website - https://embodiedrecovery.org
Trauma-informed care is often explained with jargon, but we think it lands best as a promise: we will help you feel safe. Dr Casey Grover sits down with psychologist Dr Angela Chanter, Chief Clinical Officer at Sierra Health and Wellness, to translate that promise into what it looks like in real addiction treatment settings, especially detox and residential rehab where every sound, shift change, and schedule surprise can hit like a trigger.We talk about how consistency becomes a clinical intervention, why leadership and communication are essential when a program has to pivot, and what “service-minded” care looks like without slipping into control or shame. Dr. Grover also shares his own experience with PTSD from emergency medicine and why the emergency department can unintentionally become trauma-worsening care for both patients and clinicians. From there, we connect the dots between clinician wellness, compassion fatigue, and the ability to stay present when people are struggling.On the clinical side, we dig into restoring agency as a cornerstone of trauma recovery and substance use disorder treatment. We cover practical approaches like written exposure therapy and therapeutic journaling, skills from DBT and CBT, and how good aftercare planning supports long-term recovery through step-down options like PHP and IOP. We also discuss individualising care for survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault, including when gender-specific groups or programs can help someone feel safe enough to do the work.If this conversation helps you see addiction medicine and trauma-informed care in a new way, subscribe, share it with a colleague or friend, and leave a rating or review so more people can find the show.To learn more about Dr. Chanter's work:To contact Dr. Grover: ammadeeasy@fastmail.com
Unlocking billions in cloud marketplace revenue. Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://theultimatepartner.com/ebook-subscribe/ Check Out UPX: https://theultimatepartner.com/experience/ This powerful panel discussion featuring leaders from Google, Tackle, and dbt Labs dives deep into the explosive growth of cloud marketplaces and the radical shift toward AI-driven go-to-market strategies. With hyperscaler backlogs nearing half a trillion dollars, the conversation unpacks how top-tier organizations are transforming their compensation models, aligning executive buy-in, and navigating the complexities of co-selling to capture committed customer budgets. From the rise of AI agents acting as metered SaaS to the essential operational investments required to scale marketplace revenue from 10% to over 50%, this session provides an actionable roadmap for software companies ready to dominate the 2026 partner ecosystem. https://youtu.be/LSj49f5FEII Key Takeaways Hyperscaler backlog commitments represent a massive, nearly half-trillion-dollar addressable market that completely changes the budgeting conversation. Successful marketplace selling requires complete executive alignment, right down to the CFO, and strategic adjustments like spiffing sales teams for marketplace transactions. The AI category is experiencing staggering 18x year-over-year growth, forcing companies to pivot toward an “agent-first” go-to-market model. Shifting from traditional channels to cloud go-to-market demands a multi-year, intentional investment in operations, people, and technology. System integrators are evolving into software companies as they build orchestration agents to manage fragmented, end-to-end workflows. Leveraging cloud commitments bypasses standard 12-15 month budget cycles, allowing for significantly faster deal closures and larger initial lands. If you're ready to lead through change, elevate your business, and achieve extraordinary outcomes through the power of partnership—this is your community. At Ultimate Partner® we want leaders like you to join us in the Ultimate Partner Experience – where transformation begins. Key Tags: Google Cloud Marketplace, hyperscaler backlog, cloud commitments, co-selling strategies, AI agents, metered SaaS, product-led growth, rev ops, B2B sales transformation, ecosystem shift, channel strategy, system integrators, Deal registration, private offer APIs, digital transformation, software procurement. Transcript: Insight to Revenue- The State of Cloud GTM [00:00:00] Dai Vu: These are all things everyone has to do to get to that first five to 10 deals, and then 10, 20, 30% of your business through Marketplace. [00:00:09] Vince Menzione: You can feel it happening. The ecosystem is shifting beneath us, the way Hyperscalers are partnering, how AI is remaking the channel and what it means to win in 2026. [00:00:21] Vince Menzione: Welcome to the Ultimate Partner Podcast. I’m Vince Menzi, own your host, and each week I sit down with leaders at the intersection of technology. Partnerships and outcomes. The voices shaping how ecosystems actually work. We talk about what’s real, what’s changing, and what it takes to lead in this era where the partner channel isn’t just part of the strategy. [00:00:43] Vince Menzione: It is the strategy because being in the room changes [00:00:46] John Janke: everything. Let’s start. [00:00:52] Vince Menzione: And we have an incredible session. The way that we wanted today to, to, to start the day up was like, let’s talk about what’s happening right now and let’s get three leaders in this space to come up and talk about the world and how it’s a rapidly evolving. So I want to invite to the stage dvu from Google is a great friend of Ultimate Partner. [00:01:14] Vince Menzione: Are you guys ready? Are you guys micd up already? Okay, good. Good. John Yanke, the CEO and Founder of Tackle, and Sean Todo, who is an incredible leader with DBT, but also an old friend of mine. We worked together on Microsoft Days. Good to see you gentlemen. Thanks Sean. Great to have you with us. [00:01:37] John Janke: They stuck me on the side ’cause they said I’d block the screen if I sat in the middle. [00:01:41] Shawn Toldo: You still block it a little bit. [00:01:42] John Janke: And that picture’s from like 1985. I, I, we do have to get that. I had way darker hair. It was, uh, 10 year, 10 years at a startup. Makes you turn white. [00:01:52] Shawn Toldo: Mine’s the exact same right now. So it’s all good. [00:01:55] Shawn Toldo: Mine’s AI generated. Yeah. [00:01:57] Vince Menzione: Well, you know, guys, I just took it all off at that point, you know, it’s like good. Yeah, but you lose enough of it. You pull it out over the years. Yeah. So, uh, some really exciting times. Uh, you, we gotta spend some time at you at our breakfast. That’s right. A couple weeks ago. [00:02:13] Dai Vu: A lot of folks here, too. [00:02:14] Vince Menzione: A lot of folks that are here were at that breakfast, and I thought we’d spend a few moments with you talking about all the exciting things that have been happening at, at Google. I mean the, yeah, the businesses just to, first of all, the numbers were house. Outstanding. Congratulations. [00:02:28] Dai Vu: That’s right. [00:02:28] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:02:28] Vince Menzione: Really, some really great numbers. Commitments are off the charts. [00:02:32] Dai Vu: Yes. [00:02:32] Vince Menzione: Crazy off the charts. [00:02:33] Dai Vu: Yes. [00:02:34] Vince Menzione: Yes. Uh, and then there’s a lot happening in this little world called ai, which makes a ton of sense. Yep. I was critical about Google in the beginning because you had all the assets, but Microsoft leaned in first. [00:02:45] Vince Menzione: Uh, but now it’s like things have evolved, uh, quite a bit since those first days. Absolutely. In, in November of 2022. So, uh, take us through a little bit. Let’s, let’s go through [00:02:56] Dai Vu: it. Yeah. I could talk for quite a bit of time because obviously we came out next, yeah. At the end of April, and then we had our earnings announced, but shortly thereafter. [00:03:03] Dai Vu: But, but real quick on next, uh, for folks who attended, uh, you know, the way they framed, uh, the discussion was they showed this AI integrated stack, and that’s how they frame the keynote because we position ourselves as being the only vendor that provides this. Fully integrated stack from custom silicon all the way to the apps and agents. [00:03:23] Dai Vu: And a lot of the announcements were, were focused in those areas. Um, uh, I won’t go through the, the long list, but I think the big ones coming out of next were, uh, certainly the eighth generation TPU we announced, so we actually split this into two specialized chips for training and inference. Uh, so that’s, uh, that was a big piece. [00:03:41] Dai Vu: Uh, but the big one that we announced was this, uh, Gemini Enterprise. Uh, agent platform. So think of it as the comprehensive platform for companies to basically build scale, govern and optimize their agents. And of course, once they have that, they can bring that into, uh, what we call a Gen Gemini enterprise app, which is really the front door for AI for. [00:04:03] Dai Vu: All customers and all employees to manage a mix of agents, um, as part of their daily workflow. And, uh, and a big part of it is, you know, certainly they’ll have some custom agents, but we think a lot of the agents will come from the ecosystem. And obviously there was a big announcement around what we’re doing there. [00:04:21] Dai Vu: Um, and in fact, one of the things that’s interesting is this shows the evolution of, of marketplace in our, in our partnership, which is we’ve taken a lot of the marketplace experience. And brought it into Gemini exp uh, Gemini Enterprise app, right? So search, discovery, uh, the ability to invoke agents, uh, in context. [00:04:39] Dai Vu: I think that’s gonna be very powerful as we think about the evolution, uh, of, of go to market. And then the last thing maybe I’ll highlight is this, um, is. 750 million, uh, investment fund that we’re gonna drive with the broad partnership. So this cuts across all partner types, global system integrators, uh, uh, you know, AI, pure plays, uh, ISVs, uh, the big management consultants as well, uh, because we recognize that partners are gonna be critical to drive business transformation with our end customers. [00:05:08] Dai Vu: So we’re investing around things like. Technical enablement, access to our product teams, access to our FDE for deployment engineers, and then a lot of incentives to drive usage and deployment. So, um, so a lot of, a lot of activity and obviously the ecosystem’s gonna be very critical for us to drive that impact’s. [00:05:25] Dai Vu: Fine. And the last thing, I know we’ve going on and on fine, but the last thing I’ll just mention is just on the earnings announcement, uh, Vince touched on the backlog, so people have been tracking Yeah. Two quarters ago. We were 155 billion on the backlog, and then a quarter later we were 240 billion. And then in the last quarter, just recently, 462 billion. [00:05:46] Dai Vu: So obviously that’s a, a massive signal of customer intent, but more importantly, it’s a, it’s, it’s a addressable market for this ecosystem to go after as well. [00:05:54] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Almost a half a trillion dollars. Yes. In commitment. So a lot, a lot of reason why we should be on the marketplace. [00:06:01] Dai Vu: Absolutely. Absolutely. [00:06:02] Vince Menzione: Um, each of these gentlemen have some things to talk about as well, about their companies and the exciting things that have been happening. [00:06:08] Vince Menzione: I’m gonna start, John, I’m gonna start with you because Tackle has, has transformed quite a bit since the last time you were on stage with us. I thought maybe introduce the company. Take us through the transformation and then we’re gonna do the same thing with Sean with his organization. [00:06:21] John Janke: Yeah. Thanks. Uh, thanks Vince. [00:06:23] John Janke: Great to see everybody. Uh, John Yanke, GM of Tackle at App Direct. So the big news there is Tackle was acquired in Q4 by a company called App Direct, and I think the why behind this app, direct Powers, marketplaces, they run 400 marketplaces around the world for telcos, for ISVs, for system integrators, channel partners. [00:06:42] John Janke: And we were talk like, when you build a marketplace and diagnose this, stocking the shelves is actually really hard. Uh, and we were talking to them about how could we connect the dots between the hyperscaler marketplaces, the iscs we support, and these additional routes to market. Uh, and that became more strategic and we ended up joining forces in December. [00:07:00] John Janke: And since then, the other part that’s really hard when you build a marketplace is how do you generate demand? Uh, so four weeks ago we acquired a company called Partner Stack. And Partner Stack does affiliate content. They have an affiliate content platform that allows you to connect with 150,000 content providers to be able to start to tell your story to drive leads to. [00:07:23] John Janke: Marketplace. So we think there is a tremendous opportunity to continue. We’re in the earliest days. I think the, you know, Jay, I was with Jay at Channel Partners a few weeks ago and he is like, we under called it, he didn’t say this on stage yesterday, but he is like, uh, the 82% growth. He’s like, we totally under called it. [00:07:40] John Janke: Uh, and I think just listening to dies commit level increase mm-hmm. Reinforces the fact that we’ve under called it. But I also think we’re at this tipping point in the market where all of the new capabilities coming out, we have to all rethink our better together stories. So I think the challenge to all partner leaders, it’s like, how do we. [00:07:58] John Janke: Figure that out. So it’s, it’s a, it’s a fun time. As we transform the way we worked. We wrote the first helping people kind of list, launch and sell through the marketplaces. And now to be able to take that to the next level to hopefully unlock the next a hundred billion of marketplace throughput. [00:08:13] Vince Menzione: And are we at a hundred billion? [00:08:15] Vince Menzione: ’cause that was the number, right? [00:08:16] John Janke: I mean that’s, that’s, that’s the number that’s talked about. I mean, we’re seeing the data signals we see, I mean, we will process 20 billion plus this year. Uh, and that number’s growing faster than Jay’s stated number. So I think we’re excited to see where this year lands. [00:08:30] Vince Menzione: We’ve come a long way from three years ago and we all got on stage and talked about marketplaces together. Right. It’s been, it’s been amazing. And then Sean, let’s talk about DBT. You’ve had some excitement. I know some things maybe we can’t even talk about yet on stage. [00:08:43] Shawn Toldo: Uh, yeah, go ahead. [00:08:44] Vince Menzione: No, I was saying I, I could, I’ll pre-announce things, but No, I’m just, uh, tell, tell us about DBT for those who don’t know in the room, sure. [00:08:49] Vince Menzione: Mean Yeah, that might help. [00:08:51] Shawn Toldo: So, uh, Sean Todo, I lead the partner business at DBT. I’ve been here about 18 months. Um, DBT really started as an open source tool. That help data engineers be successful in SQL transformation with cloud data warehouses? Right. And so back even to the Redshift days now into what I would call more the BigQuery, snowflake, Databricks fabric led days, um, DBT is the tool of choice amongst the data engineering community in terms of how they wanna drive SQL transformation. [00:09:21] Shawn Toldo: And so more recently, we kind of jumped into this kind of paid world. Which is why we needed to bring in additional experience leadership around go to market product, sales, et cetera. And so when I walked in the door, one of the things I noticed really quickly was we were running on AWS, which was great. [00:09:40] Shawn Toldo: We were doing some AWS marketplace stuff. We were running on Azure in Europe only. And one of my first strategies was we have to be everywhere, right customer. We have to meet customers where they are. And so we, uh, made some major investments to be on Google Cloud platform to then be able to really take advantage of marketplace, to then really be able to take advantage of the co-sell opportunities that exist in the field from a day, day-to-day AI perspective with Google. [00:10:07] Shawn Toldo: And it has been a hell of a ride. We launched on, uh, Google Marketplace in July of last year. We went to Google next and we were Google Partner of the Year. Wow. For data and analytics in a very rapid way. We’re now in three, uh, data centers around the, the world. So we’re here in the us, we’re in Frankfurt, we’re in uh, uh, UK as well. [00:10:30] Shawn Toldo: And so it’s been a pleasure to work with D and the broader team. Because the enablement we’ve had and the support we’ve had from that group has really helped our growth be up and to the right. The data point I would give is that when I walked in the door, we were 10% of our business from an A RR perspective was transacting through marketplace. [00:10:48] Shawn Toldo: Last quarter we cracked 40%. Whoa. We will be at north of 50, uh, next quarter. [00:10:53] Dai Vu: Wow. [00:10:54] Shawn Toldo: The other piece that Vince was talking about is we’re getting ready to merge with a company called Five Tran. And so there will be a new company name at some point down the road. Uh, pay attention on June 1st for a public announcement around that merger. [00:11:06] Shawn Toldo: Uh, but we’re really looking forward to what we’re gonna be able to do with folks like DI and the Google team as well as others in the ecosystem. Um, ’cause I think in this data world that we’ve played for so long. This trusted foundational element of data and what it’s gonna mean to context in the AI world. [00:11:23] Shawn Toldo: We’re in a very interesting place to really continue our growth rate at a high level. [00:11:28] John Janke: Yeah, that maybe just a comment something there. Start there. I think we, we used to hear people say we wanted to be strategic with cloud, go to market and get to say 10 or 20% of revenue. I think this like 40, 50%. Yeah. Th that’s where people are setting the bar these days. [00:11:43] John Janke: Yeah. So the numbers are getting really crazy. Yeah. Uh, and people are showing up and being like, I have to go big. Mm-hmm. So a huge change over the last few years. [00:11:52] Vince Menzione: Yep. What’s the experience you’re seeing as well? I mean, it, it was a huge amount of buzz at next. [00:11:57] Dai Vu: Yeah. I mean, so interestingly, um, you know, typically when, when people get started on the, on the marketplace in Cosal journey, I always try to caution them and say, this is, uh, this is like a multi-year. [00:12:07] Dai Vu: Yeah. Uh, process. You have to be very intentional. You have to invest. It’s not gonna be a thing where you just list and, and, and, and, and, and sort of this channel opens up. So in some ways, Sean is describing an acceleration that is not common, right? Uh, so they’ve done, we’ve done some amazing things together and we hope to keep that acceleration going. [00:12:22] Vince Menzione: What does that require, by the way? Is it engineering resource? I mean, there’s, I talk about executive commitment and maniacal focus. Yeah. But it’s all those things, right? [00:12:29] Shawn Toldo: Well, all of it. But we went to a QBR in Austin, and I put up a slide and I said, we have to do this. And everybody in our ETE agreed. So when you have a chief financial officer that’s bought into the partner business. [00:12:43] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. And I guess qualifying coming into this role at this company, I qualified the C-level staff. Uh, like are they really serious about partner or not? And it’s one of the reasons I took the role. So I think executive commitment was one thing. I think the second thing is we were really well supported, um, by the Google team across the board, right? [00:13:02] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. So folks, Indy’s team that we would work with regularly on, these are the things you need to do to have an effective marketplace offering. Here’s what you need to do operationally with folks like John and team and others that are in the market, right? That helped us a ton to be able to scale. And then the other thing that we did is we changed comp. [00:13:20] Shawn Toldo: So from our VP of sales levels down, we have a 5% kicker for everything that goes through marketplace. [00:13:26] Vince Menzione: Hear [00:13:26] Shawn Toldo: that everyone. So as soon as we incented the sales team, I love that, right? We, we created the foundation on the partner side, but then from top down on the sales side, they were all in. And as a result of that, the question would become, okay, which marketplace stage two sales cycle are we gonna go use? [00:13:42] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:13:43] Shawn Toldo: Who’s the right partner to go partner with? And then my team is reaching out to make sure that co-sell connection happens. [00:13:48] Vince Menzione: That is such a best practice, Sean, to, because there is, as a seller out in the field and we talk about, you talk to John, talks about rev ops all the time. But getting rev ops eng getting the field engaged in the right way. [00:14:01] Vince Menzione: ’cause it feels like it’s more work for them. ’cause they have to think, they have to have more conversations with their customer about their cloud commitments and things like that. Mm-hmm. And then getting them incentive to do the right things. The right behavior. [00:14:12] John Janke: Yeah. It’s a strategy process. People, technology problem. [00:14:17] John Janke: Yeah. It’s not just some flip API automation, go list something if you don’t like that top down view. I think the other thing. Like there’s a, there’s a theme in startups where VCs fund second time founders. I think Sean and team have done this before and they took a lot of learnings over the years and reapplied them, which I think helps them go faster. [00:14:36] John Janke: It’s like that second time. Yeah. Second time cloud go to market Founder theme. [00:14:41] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we could talk about the platform and all the changes there on the. The, the commitments and everything. Mm-hmm. Uh, what separates ISPs generating real incremental revenue on your, in your marketplace? What, what do you see? [00:14:58] Dai Vu: Yeah, so I mean, I, I think there are a couple things. Number one is, uh, the, the foundation has to be, uh, this better together story, uh, with Google Cloud. Um, so this idea that what, you know, what do you bring, what does the Google platform bring and how does that drive impact with customers? And I think this is the reason why Sean and DBT Labs has been very effective. [00:15:16] Dai Vu: ’cause our field recognized they, they can recognize that better together story and communicate it to their customers. So I think that’s the foundation. For everything. Right. And I think as you get started, uh, you know, we do tell partners that they probably need to lean in a little bit, uh, in terms of focus, uh, you know, pick a vertical, a customer segment, um, you know, a geography where they’re particularly strong and, you know, get that momentum going. [00:15:39] Dai Vu: And once you do that, the field knows about it and starts to pull you into deals. Um, so I think that’s the other big opportunity. And then the other thing I just mentioned. Which, uh, the panel already touched on, which is be very intentional around all the things you need to do to invest. Whether it’s like, uh, you know, the business functional alignment, uh, the policies around like, uh, pricing and, and comp, uh, making sure you have the operational capabilities. [00:16:02] Dai Vu: These are all things everyone has to do to get to that. First five to 10 deals, and then 10, 20, 30% of your business through marketplace. And not to, not to top you Sean, but our very top partners are driving 80 to 90% of their business on marketplace. And in fact, some of these partners are actually only marketplace first, uh, uh, because they started out that way. [00:16:21] Dai Vu: Obviously it’s the bigger challenge if you have an existing channel, you’re trying to shift that. But, uh, the aspiration to be more marketplace focus, uh, is up there. [00:16:28] Shawn Toldo: So I just set a new goal for the business plan for me. So that’s exciting. I love it. Looking forward to seeing you in six months on that. [00:16:35] Shawn Toldo: It’s good. [00:16:36] Vince Menzione: I love [00:16:37] Dai Vu: it. Work together on that. [00:16:38] Vince Menzione: Well, di I’m just gonna add, add this because I, I got to see operationally with some of the things you do. Mm-hmm. You, you have an overlay organization. [00:16:45] Dai Vu: Yes. Yes. [00:16:46] Vince Menzione: And so you put accelerants in place within your own organization Yeah. To drive the ISVs into the, into the lines of business. [00:16:54] Vince Menzione: Right. You have, you, you do some of that to accelerate. [00:16:57] Dai Vu: Yeah, I mean, I think, I think this is somewhat unique. I don’t, I don’t wanna speak to the other [00:17:00] Shawn Toldo: hyperscalers, [00:17:01] Dai Vu: but we do have, um, uh, you gotta know the field roles, right? [00:17:04] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. So [00:17:04] Dai Vu: obviously at Google Cloud in the regions, we have, uh, ISV sales specialists who are effectively quoted on marketplace revenue, right? [00:17:12] Dai Vu: So they’re a hundred percent focused on that. And, uh, in addition to that, uh, we also have these, uh, co-sell teams, partner teams where, you know, opportunistically if there’s an opportunity, uh, in a, in a, in a particular area. This team is responsible for connecting the regional sales leadership, uh, the regional, uh, sales teams with, with the partner on the opportunity. [00:17:32] Dai Vu: So there’s a lot of things we’re doing to sort of accelerate that. And of course, the foundation for all this is, you know, our, our, you know, registering deals. And as you definitely get started on that, it’s very important to be very mindful around when you register deals. Uh, be very clear around what the ask and the engagement is with the field reps. [00:17:51] Dai Vu: But once you have that going and get the right rhythm, it becomes sort of a natural way to sort of register all your deals and get that engagement. And then, um, and then maybe the last thing I would say is it isn’t always the sales specialists. It’s, you know, the FSR, our field sales rep as well as our customer engineers are also very motivated. [00:18:08] Dai Vu: To work, uh, with, uh, with our partners because they know that this, you know, whether it be solution completeness or it’s part of a bigger workload or helps unlock greenfield opportunity, they really are motivated to engage with the partners. [00:18:21] Vince Menzione: Nice. [00:18:22] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. I’ll just add, I’ll just add to that statement too. I think, um, it’s one thing to have a story as it relates to. [00:18:30] Shawn Toldo: Google Cloud and what you do with marketplace. It’s another thing to have a story in terms of how you impact data and analytics in our world. And there’s a set of specialist sellers inside of Google mm-hmm. That really care about us because we drive a lot faster consumption of big query. And our ability to tell that story across the world effectively has really created a pull now. [00:18:54] Shawn Toldo: And so I, I would say it’s almost, you know, back to, you know, being 12 years at Microsoft and watching kind of that. Phase and how that went. As we went to the cloud and we picked specialty areas, um, Google is doing that as well and they’re doing it extremely fast in a very, very productive way with partners. [00:19:12] Shawn Toldo: And so, you know, I’ll get comments from like Levi who runs west in north region for us, and he’s a, he was at Google next and he was like, I, I gotta, I, I just gotta go to bed. I’m tired. Like we wore him out over two days with their sales team and gave him a host of follow ups and actions related to specific sales areas as well as specific accounts. [00:19:34] Shawn Toldo: And I think that’s the other thing that, um, Google’s done a good job of, but we’ve pushed and we’ve had to work really hard to earn that seat at the table. To help make those people successful from a comp perspective inside of Google as well. [00:19:45] John Janke: Yeah, and this is a huge failure zone for partners with the clouds because they think enablement’s a one and done thing. [00:19:51] John Janke: Like I did a training for the field and I told them the better together story. That doesn’t work. Like you have to literally. Have consistency around this message every day. Oftentimes you need experts who can partner with your reps to give them the confidence. ’cause they may be able to ask the first line question, but someone asks a follow up and they fold up ’cause they know your product. [00:20:11] John Janke: That’s right. They don’s don’t understand all of the nuances of Google and the clouds and the questions that may come back. But if you do that well, it is a huge unlock. [00:20:20] Vince Menzione: Talk about the coaching you provided on the tackle side of that as well and kind of helping. Through this maturity model? [00:20:26] John Janke: Yeah. I mean we, we, over the years, I mean we started as a pure SaaS company and over the years our customers would consistently ask us for more help and we would struggle to figure out how to do that, and we had to invest in services and we actually acquired a company. [00:20:42] John Janke: Five years ago now, that was the foundation. Aaron Feiger, who’s in the room. The core consulting was the foundation of our services business. And that continues to evolve with us. And you know, we see customers at scale saying, I wanna operate my cloud, go-to market really consistently, and I want you to do all the backend operations so my teams can be outselling our products, selling the better together value with Google and others, and not have to figure out how to run the machinery. [00:21:09] John Janke: So we’ve invested a lot there. We have services around strategy, like how to help people think about their business strategy and translate it into a better together story and able to get executive buy-in. And then we have coaching, which is really a phone, a friend, because I think these things get complicated. [00:21:24] John Janke: And I had a customer who was doing the largest deal in their company history. It was the end of the quarter and it was Friday, and they’re like, this is going to be the most complex transaction we’ve ever done and we have no idea how to do it. Our team gets on the phone with them, they work through, what are you selling? [00:21:40] John Janke: How are you selling it? Is your listing set up the right way? Can we actually create all the offers? In a way you have confidence to execute. ’cause those are failure modes. You try to build a cloud, go to market business, and you mess up the largest deal in the company. On the last day of the quarter, uh, that’s something you can’t recover from. [00:21:55] John Janke: So we try to really wrap support around our customers to help them have the confidence to grow. [00:22:02] Vince Menzione: Di you’ve seen tremendous growth in marketplace. Mm-hmm. We don’t publish the numbers specifically. Yeah. We kind of try to figure it out on the back end, but [00:22:09] Dai Vu: Yep. [00:22:09] Vince Menzione: I know you’re accelerated. Your, your marketplace numbers are astounding. [00:22:13] Dai Vu: Yes. I can share some numbers, if that’s [00:22:15] Vince Menzione: okay. Please. Yeah, let’s go. [00:22:18] Dai Vu: So, um. I would say that for a few years now, we’ve been talking about growth. So we’ve been consistently, uh, you know, north of a hundred percent year over year growth. Uh, for the last few years we’ve been processing, uh, what I say, uh, billions of dollars, uh, annually and, uh, uh, millions of transactions. [00:22:36] Dai Vu: And again, that’s for a few years now. Now for 24 to 25, that full year we also doubled. Wow. Uh, which is, uh, which is amazing when you think about the scale in which we operate. But more importantly, if you look at specific category areas, right? So, you know, historically, marketplace has always cater to, uh, those solution pillars that are tied to cloud migrations, like, uh, like security and data and analytics. [00:22:59] Dai Vu: And those continue to be very strong areas for us. But the biggest growth area is, uh, is in the areas of business app. So obviously, you know, the, the ServiceNow workday, uh, Salesforce of the world, as well as the AI category. So one number that we threw out next was 18 x. Year over year growth for the AI category. [00:23:17] Dai Vu: Wow. So in one year now, a lot of it is models, right? So foundational models with our, with our ecosystem. But a lot of that is around agents. So this whole agent go to market model is gonna be, continue to grow and it’s gonna be a huge focus area for, for the coming years. [00:23:32] Vince Menzione: Fantastic. Yeah. Fantastic growth. [00:23:34] Shawn Toldo: Yeah, and, and I’ll add, Diane and I talked about this at Google next. This is a. Very complex thing for DBT, where today we sell seats. [00:23:42] Vince Menzione: Mm-hmm. Yeah. [00:23:43] Shawn Toldo: To data engineers. [00:23:44] Yeah. [00:23:44] Shawn Toldo: And now we have all these agentic things that are hitting our engine. And di and I are talking and we’re like, okay, so how does this work in an ag agentic marketplace? [00:23:54] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. Kind of a scenario. And what should we build? Where should we play it? ’cause we’re gonna spin the meter in a different way, so to speak. [00:24:01] Dai Vu: Yep. [00:24:01] Shawn Toldo: And so candidly, we got stuff to figure out related to that. Um, I think what’s been fascinating for DBT is our partner ecosystem changed overnight. So now it’s like I talked to x.ai on Monday. [00:24:15] Shawn Toldo: Mm-hmm. We got time with open AI on Thursday and we have a call with Anthropic and our, uh, CEO and co-founder and uh, chief Product Officer next week. [00:24:26] Vince Menzione: Mm. [00:24:27] Shawn Toldo: We don’t have anybody managing those partners. [00:24:29] Vince Menzione: Right. [00:24:30] Shawn Toldo: Today our focus is on managing the large, uh, hyperscalers plus Snowflake and, uh, Databricks. [00:24:36] Vince Menzione: Mm-hmm. [00:24:36] Shawn Toldo: And then the SI ecosystem and some tech partners. So we’re having to like, to your point on Agile yesterday. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Like we’re having to change our strategy, operating model and organizational model to support that. And candidly, we don’t have all the answers yet, so we have a lot of things to figure out fast, which is a little bit scary. [00:24:54] Shawn Toldo: And challenging, but it’s also a huge opportunity we have to kind of embrace and get into. Yeah. [00:24:59] Vince Menzione: And they’re figuring out as well. ’cause they’re, they’re new to partnering as well. Yeah. As organizations [00:25:03] John Janke: and these AI agents. I think to demystify for a lot of people, and what Sean said is totally right. [00:25:08] John Janke: They’re disrupting everyone’s business model. But in reality from a marketplace standpoint, they’re metered SaaS. This is a thing that’s existed for a long time. Yeah. They look like product-led growth products. There is a lot of patterns around how product-led growth products work in marketplace. Mm-hmm. [00:25:24] John Janke: But you have to bring your business strategy, your product and pricing strategy to those two categories. Metered SaaS and product-led growth. Put that all together to get cross-functional alignment. So we are seeing like. A lot of people get tripped up here and it really does go back to more of the company strategy, product strategy questions, and a lot of partner leaders are not in the room for those conversations. [00:25:48] John Janke: So I think at, at this point in time, as you see big pivots with the partners to go all in on agents, you have to go elevate. Those discussions to be like, what is our plan here? ’cause I, I mean, pricing and packaging will be the thing that trips almost everyone up. [00:26:02] Dai Vu: If I could, if I just build on what John John mentioned, um, so I do agree. [00:26:06] Dai Vu: P it looks a lot like POG, but, uh, but the difference I think is POG has. More historically been in like the data and developer space, now it’s like the general business user, right? So this idea that you want a business user to be able to search and discover, um, agents that could actually be part of their like everyday workflow is going to be very critical. [00:26:26] Dai Vu: And uh, you know, I do think that when we think about the ecosystem building agents. Uh, you know, a lot of the ISV partners aren’t necessarily gonna own end-to-end workflows, right? They’ll, they’ll have a very specific, uh, domain and scope area, but you have to enable yourself to be orchestrated and managed by, you know, orchestration agents or, or, or meta agents that are gonna span end, end workflows. [00:26:49] Dai Vu: And sometimes that includes system integrators and, and others who can stitch that, that automation. So I think, I think that’s, that’s one piece of it. But the other area that I think is gonna be different is, um. There’s going to be a lot of agents. I mean, literally you’re gonna have a very fragmented set of, uh, uh, of players, right? [00:27:07] Dai Vu: It’s not just gonna be the incumbents, it’s gonna be a lot of disruptors and, and, and, and startups. And so the, uh, for the incumbents in the room, it is a mandate that you need to, to innovate because if you do not identify and go to like an agent first, go to market model. Uh, you’re gonna be, you know, disintermediated. [00:27:25] Dai Vu: Somebody’s gonna go build an agent that’s going to leverage you as a dumb database. Um, and they’re gonna own the workflow. So you have to, you have to push the, the, the, the limits here. And I think it’s creates a big opportunity for everyone in this room. [00:27:39] John Janke: I’m going off script. I’m curious. Let’s do it. I’m curious on your take on the system integrators. [00:27:44] John Janke: ’cause I think this, this puts like they’re all, a lot of them are creating agents for people and I think that’s turning them almost more into software companies than they’ve ever been. [00:27:53] Dai Vu: They are, and I think they’re, you know, obviously they’re being, uh, impacted from like, you know, typical like, you know, SOW you know, time and materials type type business models. [00:28:02] Dai Vu: But I do think they play a big role because a lot of the system integrators are bringing, um, you know, vertical and business process expertise. And, um, like I said, I said before, a lot of the ISVs are not gonna necessarily have big enough scope in their area to own end-to-end workflows. And that’s really the promise of agents, right? [00:28:20] Dai Vu: You really need. This cognitive, you know, reasoning, planning, executing across end to end workflows. And I think, you know, the system integrators are gonna bring that capability either, either through, you know, these custom, uh, orchestration or meta agents or if they’re able to productize that and bring that to a model, they can also sort of go through the marketplace model as well. [00:28:41] Dai Vu: So who knows is how it’s gonna evolve. But you know, we’ve always been talking about. Marketplace being a broader opportunity for all partner business models. And I think that will extend to not only, uh, you know, traditional sort of, uh, sell and services partners, but also some of these system integrators as well. [00:28:58] Shawn Toldo: If I could comment on that, please. Yeah. I, I was in London two weeks ago and we did an SI partner day. Mm-hmm. We had 25 sis in a room, probably about 50 people. We had no, um, hyperscalers or cloud data warehouse providers. And when we started talking about open data infrastructure. The role that they can play. [00:29:17] Vince Menzione: Mm-hmm. [00:29:18] Shawn Toldo: Cross platform in a cost efficient manner for customers and the advisory orientation of that. They all leaned in and we, we stopped talking and they started talking. [00:29:28] Vince Menzione: Right. [00:29:28] Shawn Toldo: So they’re all facing this kind of same problem, which is actually causing a little bit of a shift, I think, in how they think about, I’m a Databricks partner. [00:29:38] Shawn Toldo: Uh, you sure you wanna do that? [00:29:39] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:29:40] Shawn Toldo: So this, this whole thing that’s kind of evolved in the last six to 12 months, when you kind of pick one horse to ride, I, I would tell you be cautious about what that means. You may pick a horse to lead with mm-hmm. But you’re gonna have to flank yourself a bit in terms of other providers that can help you be successful with that, that that partner you’re gonna roll with. [00:30:00] Vince Menzione: So you’re suggesting data vendor agnostic. [00:30:04] Shawn Toldo: I’m suggesting you really have to think about your strategy. Yeah. Because I think the AI, AI disruption is gonna make you think about that strategy. [00:30:13] John Janke: Yeah, I mean there’s, someone mentioned anthropics First Partner Summit. I was not there, but I’ve heard from a bunch of people were there. [00:30:20] John Janke: You know, they had a hundred partners in the room. 95 of them were system integrators. Five were technology companies, the three Clouds, Databricks and Snowflake. Like if you just think about the, the one of the major disruptors in ai, ISVs, were not in the mix. So I, I think, are they trying to disrupt all of us? [00:30:40] John Janke: Uh, do they need us? And they haven’t figured out how to work with us. I, I think. It’s, it’s, [00:30:44] Vince Menzione: and I’ve heard they only have five people in their partner organization, so I just, it’s, [00:30:49] Shawn Toldo: it’s 11 now, but it’s 11, [00:30:51] Vince Menzione: so it was five [00:30:51] Shawn Toldo: last growing fast in the, in the new company I have 50. So like, to put it in perspective, they have to make some pretty big priority. [00:30:59] John Janke: Yeah. And everyone’s been there a hot second, [00:31:00] Vince Menzione: like, right, exactly. Yeah, they, well, we will talk about the learnings we’ve had over the years, getting to where they need to get to. It’s exciting times. We got a lot to talk about here. Um, I, you know, we have about 15 minutes. I I, I want to kind of gauge, ’cause we could talk, we, we have a few things we could talk about, I could ask about, but I want to see if there’s an, like, an interest in opening up to the room for questions. [00:31:25] Vince Menzione: ’cause I feel like we’ve got a very interesting group here. [00:31:28] Shawn Toldo: You got a hand here? [00:31:29] Vince Menzione: Uh, are there hands that wanna Yeah, there’s some people that wanna ask some questions. So Yeah. We have a mic? Yeah, [00:31:37] Dai Vu: we have [00:31:37] Shawn Toldo: a mic. We, [00:31:37] Vince Menzione: we [00:31:38] Shawn Toldo: got one here. [00:31:38] Vince Menzione: We got one here. One here. Thank you. Sorry we went off script, but [00:31:44] Shawn Toldo: that’s fine. [00:31:45] Vince Menzione: It’s fine. [00:31:45] Dai Vu: Off [00:31:45] Vince Menzione: script. Better is good. [00:31:46] Shawn Toldo: I’m sure you planted the questions outta anyway. It’s okay. We [00:31:48] Vince Menzione: did, we did. [00:31:55] Audience Guest: Okay. All Eva, Sean Lightner, quick question to your, uh, increase on the marketplace, and you said you spiff the salespeople by fifth percent. 5%. Mm-hmm. So, and that obviously drives a very large adoption of, uh, marketplace transactions. How are you accounting for the margin you’re losing on, uh, you know, going through the marketplace? [00:32:14] Audience Guest: And also have you done analysis? I’m sure you have, how much is, uh, shape shifting or shifting from existing versus incremental? [00:32:22] Shawn Toldo: Yeah, it’s a great question. Um, um, lemme make three points. Number one, the backlog statement makes the margin statement not matter. So do you wanna play in that space where a customer’s already bought or not? [00:32:36] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. Or do you wanna force a budget conversation that you have to drive on your own in a direct model? That to me, I think it was 484 4 62 [00:32:43] Dai Vu: 4 6 [00:32:44] Shawn Toldo: 2. [00:32:44] Vince Menzione: That’s new Tam available to you? [00:32:46] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. That, that’s just with one. Right. And we are, we are, uh, running on four marketplaces. So that just increases our tam and makes our, our sellers lives easier. [00:32:55] Shawn Toldo: So on that piece, yes, there’s an expense, but we believe it’s right for growth. So there’s a balance there. Um, I think the, and then the second part of your question again. Sorry, [00:33:05] Vince Menzione: shapeshift. [00:33:05] Shawn Toldo: Oh, shift. We, we actually don’t think we would’ve won the business. So if I go back to our Q4 and I can probably point to three or four deals that went, um, Google Marketplace, we would not have won those deals because we couldn’t have created the budget cycle and that quarter. [00:33:23] Shawn Toldo: To make it happen. Generally a budget cycle is gonna take anywhere from 12 to 15 months. Bingo. Because of the spend that was available to us, we were able to close it in that quarter, and we had the largest Q4 in company history. [00:33:35] Vince Menzione: That is such an important point. I’m sorry. [00:33:37] Dai Vu: Okay. [00:33:38] Vince Menzione: But I, I just wanna, that is such an important point of the budget cycle. [00:33:42] Dai Vu: Yeah. [00:33:43] Vince Menzione: Being a year to a year and a half versus being able to tap into a commitment that’s already been made. Yeah, so I just emphasize that [00:33:51] Dai Vu: I was, I was just gonna add real quick, even, even when we see sort of a, uh, a channel shift renewal, which is, you know, it’s on partner paper and it moves to marketplace as part of the renewals, we do consistently see that the, uh, renewal rates on marketplace and the incremental a CB on the expansion and new opportunities tend to be better when it’s on the platform marketplace than than offline. [00:34:12] Dai Vu: And that’s why partners choose to continue to drive renewals on marketplace at a reduced to rev share. But uh, because they see that that growth, [00:34:20] John Janke: we, we, sorry. [00:34:22] Shawn Toldo: We see that as well. Yeah. And I would also make the statement on our land business, when we go through marketplace, we are two x higher across marketplaces. [00:34:30] Shawn Toldo: We’re three x higher with them. [00:34:32] John Janke: Yeah, I think separate new from renewals and then instrument deeply. [00:34:37] Shawn Toldo: Yeah, [00:34:38] John Janke: go proactively talk to your CFO and your head of rev ops to understand their mindset. Because I was with a billion dollar seller a couple weeks ago, their CFO still creates friction in the process, even though they’re selling a billion dollars through these channels. [00:34:52] John Janke: But when they broke it down, their deals are three times bigger. They do them faster. They use more components of the product, which I thought was a really cool one. So customers who buy this platform, many component platforms through a marketplace, end up using six components of the product. Versus a normal land customer who uses two increases gross in net retention. [00:35:12] John Janke: So you have to get to the point where you have the data and you can tell that story real really clearly to your finance team to get support ’cause that they will trip you up if you don’t get them on board. [00:35:23] Vince Menzione: And you’re saying there’s friction in that company. I’m just kind of curious ’cause a billion dollar company. [00:35:27] John Janke: There’s a billion dollar marketplace seller [00:35:29] Vince Menzione: market marketplace company. That’s what I meant. Yeah. But, but the fact that this, their CFO friction, like, is it, is it because they’re not doing a good enough job or? [00:35:37] John Janke: Uh, in, of educating, I, the root of the question is from this person is, would they win without it? [00:35:44] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:35:45] Shawn Toldo: Oh, and is it worth the three points? [00:35:46] John Janke: Right. It’s, it is And, and I think some pe like to me, it’s the cheapest channel in the world. Yeah. Like with committed budget and people to support you winning. Like the, that formula, the math is so simple. [00:35:57] Shawn Toldo: Yeah. For, for a company of our size to go to like the classic resell ecosystem, I gotta walk in with 30 points. [00:36:02] John Janke: Yeah. [00:36:03] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:36:03] Shawn Toldo: It, it’s an illogical conversation. Outside of public sector and growth, you know, geos around the world. And so I, I’ve been lucky to have a CFO that I haven’t had that challenge with, at least at DBTI should say. [00:36:19] Vince Menzione: Really great insights. I think we have, we have another hand up here. [00:36:28] Audience Guest: Yeah. Thanks Susan. The question is for Dai. Uh, my name is Latif Hamani. I’m the founder of Partner System ai. Um, so what we’ve done is we’ve built a, a co-sell AI agent mm-hmm. That your partners can use to Yeah. Reduce all the friction in the co-sell with you. Uh, the questions that I have is, I guess I should back up, so XAWS Madison with a very large alliances, and then I worked, went on the other side. [00:36:55] Audience Guest: For software companies, and even though I had an operational team, I was spending two to three hours on on the keyboard, right? Mm-hmm. Deal registration, emails that can’t be automated, et cetera. So the question that I have for you is, I’d love for you to validate that. You know, unless you are one of the big companies, one of the big enterprises, if you go to the lower end of the enterprise or the mid market, uh, would you validate that there is a challenge? [00:37:20] Audience Guest: There’s a lot of friction for a smaller company. Mm-hmm. Uh, ’cause these marketplaces are complex. Yeah. The cosell is complex. Uh, that there’s an opportunity to really break down that friction with some automation and ai. [00:37:33] Dai Vu: Yeah, absolutely. So, um, we have already been, uh, part of the journey to remove some of the, uh, the friction as part of that selling and purchasing journey. [00:37:43] Dai Vu: Uh. We’re not quite there yet. But, uh, we’ve done things like we have, uh, you know, private offer APIs. We, uh, we have co-sell, uh, registration automation. Um, you know, we have tools like, uh, propensity to buy, tooling to help, uh, partners do, uh, more targeted efforts. Um, but the a i piece is still coming. Um, so I think, uh, the idea here is that we have launched a number of agents as part of our, um. [00:38:08] Dai Vu: Uh, part of our, uh, Google Cloud Partner network, partner hub. Uh, so these are, uh, agents that are gonna do a bunch of things to help partners as part of their workflow, but we’re gonna extend this to the marketplace and ISV area as well. Uh, so I think there’s a lot of opportunity. So, uh, I know there’s probably a lot of feedback in friction, uh, in, in certain parts. [00:38:29] Dai Vu: So we can, we can go tackle together. [00:38:32] Vince Menzione: Hey. There you go. There was a little [00:38:34] Dai Vu: plug [00:38:34] Shawn Toldo: there for tackle. Exactly. [00:38:37] Dai Vu: Uh, and I wanted, and just to be clear, I want to take a look at it from the end to end, uh, uh, flow, right? It shouldn’t just be just marketplace. It should be all the way from like, you know, top of the funnel, demand generation, all the way to like post transaction follow up. [00:38:51] Dai Vu: So we really need to take a look at, at the, the end, end flows and figure out a way we can remove some of that friction [00:38:56] Vince Menzione: three sense. [00:38:57] Dai Vu: Yeah. [00:38:59] Vince Menzione: Any more questions [00:39:00] Audience Guest: back here? Hey. Hey guys. This, this is a really good discussion. Uh, di this question’s primarily, uh, from, I’m interested in the hyperscaler response. [00:39:09] Audience Guest: Yep. Uh, but all of you, uh, can you talk about the patterns or say more about the patterns between. Um, the consumption of just platform capabilities versus industry workflows. Mm-hmm. And how industry where I, I mean, I, I, my sense is that industry workflows are becoming more [00:39:27] Dai Vu: Yeah. [00:39:28] Audience Guest: Uh, the easier thing for enterprises and SMBs to buy. [00:39:33] Audience Guest: Yeah. Especially SMBs, I think. Um, but say more about those patterns that you’re seeing develop and kind of what is. Uh, who are, where, where are those kind of, where is the demand being driven? Is it, is it, yeah. The search and discover in the marketplace, or is it being led by field sales of mm-hmm. Either GCP or partners? [00:39:55] Dai Vu: Yeah, so let me, I’ll mention a couple, a couple areas where, where it’s growing. So I think number one I mentioned before about some of these large horizontal business apps that we’re partnering with, right? Um, and, uh, and of course the fact that we’re, we’re, we’re transacting them through marketplace is, is a huge. [00:40:14] Dai Vu: Evolution from a few years ago. So who would’ve thought you would be buying like, you know, a hundred million dollars a CB deals, uh, through, through marketplace with like a Salesforce or a ServiceNow workday. But it’s happening now. And to be clear, all these. Horizontal business app. They’re not doing this in a very, you know, opportunistic, transactional way. [00:40:32] Dai Vu: They basically see marketplace and cloud go to market as a strategic growth lever for them. So that’s one big area. So from just a pure large deal perspective. Okay. Then you mentioned before around sort of corporate and SMB. Well, we find that a lot of the big opportunities are mostly around as they scale their business, uh, they’re not necessarily looking for things in the traditional sort of infrastructure space, but they’re looking for, you know, full SaaS applications to help scale their business, right? [00:40:58] Dai Vu: So it would be CRM, finance, hr, these types of solutions to become very attractive for some of this, uh, downstream market. And then lastly, as I mentioned before, which is, uh, when we think about this gentrification and owning, um. Uh, driving, uh, this business process and vertical, the ISVs become very important along with the services partners who bring that domain expertise to drive the end to end workflow. [00:41:25] Dai Vu: So I think that’s gonna be increasingly important. So those are three areas I think we need to watch out for. We. Okay. [00:41:30] John Janke: Maybe one thing, like as the cloud commit grows inside of companies, it’s shifted from being an engineering department, IT department budget line item to a corporate finance budget line item. [00:41:40] John Janke: Typically one of the top five to 10 expenses in a company. So that has shifted. Who is thinking about optimizing? The cloud commit with marketplace contracts. And that opens, that’s really opened up the avenue in addition to like these biz apps, vertical apps players. Yeah. Like having success. So I, I do think even inside your own company, evaluating where your cloud commits are, who owns them and are they thinking about the intersection of marketplace? [00:42:06] John Janke: ’cause I, I think it’s smaller companies, they’re still figuring it out. I run into engineering leaders who still own the commits, uh, but in medium to large companies. Very different. [00:42:16] Vince Menzione: Really good point. Because it, you know this, the optics change dramatically, right? This large commitment is now at the board level, [00:42:23] John Janke: right? [00:42:23] John Janke: And then you do have to teach your sellers as a vertical or business application player how to ask that question. ’cause the first resistance everybody says is, oh my, my person, my stakeholder, we. Manufacturing vertical application provider talking at an event last week, and they’re like, the shop floor manufacturing owner doesn’t know anything about the cloud commit. [00:42:43] John Janke: But if they ask the question, be like, Hey, do you guys have a strategic relationship with Google? Would it be easier to buy our product on the bill? Eight out of 10 times they get a yes. So [00:42:52] Vince Menzione: which is why the 5% comes in And that really accelerates the conversation happening. Yeah. We’ve got three more minutes. [00:43:01] Vince Menzione: Um, if we don’t have any other questions, I ha I have one for each of you really about the maturity model and partners are in the room that are not committed yet, right? We’ve talked about some very significant DBTs doing some incredible things, right? So we, there’s maybe a sense that like we, you, you are working with the be the biggest and the best out there, but what about everyone else that’s in the room that maybe isn’t committed yet? [00:43:23] Vince Menzione: And maybe they’re in motion, but they need some help and advice on what to go do next. What? What would you say die first? [00:43:30] Dai Vu: So they’re early stage, [00:43:31] Vince Menzione: early, early stage or not, they’re not on board yet. They’re not, yeah. They’re not with you yet. [00:43:35] Dai Vu: Yeah. So I’ll, I’ll go back to my earlier comment, which is that as you go into the journey, just be very intentional about what you need to do from an operational, investment people, uh, technology perspective. [00:43:47] Dai Vu: Uh, because it could be, it could be a multi-year journey. Um, uh, so I’d say go into it with the right expectations as opposed to thinking it’s going to be some accelerated six month thing that Sean has been driving here. It’s, he’s the outlier. [00:43:59] Shawn Toldo: But, but the reason for the outlier, [00:44:00] Dai Vu: yeah. [00:44:01] Shawn Toldo: And just to add to the intentional point Yeah. [00:44:02] Shawn Toldo: Is, you know, hire the right people. Right. So, somebody told me a long time ago, uh, hire slow, fire fast. That’s a really, really, really good principle that I take. Mm-hmm. I don’t like the fire part, obviously, but just for context, I, I am very lucky to have a great set of leaders that we were able to add people in. [00:44:24] Shawn Toldo: When I walked in the door, we had a person that was leading the Snowflake and AWS partnership. I had nobody on GCPI had nobody on Microsoft. I had nobody on Databricks. And then we made prioritization decisions on where we’re gonna go next. And so we hired people that had the experience and could drive the outcome in the right way. [00:44:43] Shawn Toldo: But we were very thoughtful about when we made those decisions on a quarterly basis, not a daily basis. So who you’re gonna bet on and then who you’re gonna put in the seat to make that bet come to life, I think is a really important thing as well. [00:44:58] John Janke: Yeah. [00:44:58] Vince Menzione: John, you worked with the be biggest and the best out there, so Yeah, sorry. [00:45:01] John Janke: Well, I think there’s the, like there’s the bottoms up and the tops down. Like seven years ago, this was all bottoms up. It was a partner leader who thought launching a marketplace would be good and they would go figure out how to do some deals and then sell their way up. Today there’s a lot more top down where people get it. [00:45:17] John Janke: But you can evaluate top down pretty fast. ’cause if you go talk to your CEO, you talk to your head of product, you talk to your CFO, and they have an allergic reaction to these concepts. You know, you have to go bottoms up. But there also are success story examples in every single ISV category that exists. [00:45:33] John Janke: Like this is not just security and data and DevOp like the, I think the ServiceNow. Salesforce workday. Examples are really great, like the marketing tech examples, more and more business of vertical apps every day. So I do think you can look at those people who’ve been successful. Maybe they’re your competitors, maybe they’re people you aspire to be and reference them as you’re trying to figure out how to do top down. [00:45:55] John Janke: But like you need both. You can’t win long term unless you get top down and bottom up aligned. [00:46:01] Shawn Toldo: And, and when I, when I would go ask for resourcing, I would always get the question, do, could you go faster with more? And I’d say, no. Gimme the one or two humans here, let me go prove it out and I’ll come back. [00:46:13] Shawn Toldo: So there’s a little bit of a strategy in doing that, that you’re gonna get more over time when you’re, you know, very measured in how you go ask for investment and resource. And so I would just add that point also. [00:46:27] Vince Menzione: Was, was hiring a significant component of your executive commitment, Sean? I mean, [00:46:33] Shawn Toldo: yes. So when I walked in the door at DBT, we had eight people in the partner organization. [00:46:38] Shawn Toldo: Today we have 25, and that was 18 months ago. But that did not happen. I didn’t go in and ask for, you know, that 16 people. Right. I asked over time in a very measured way with, you know, the programs and strategy team, like, what can we also support? You don’t want to bring somebody in to go do something and you don’t have the programs and operations side to support it ’cause they’ll fail. [00:47:01] Shawn Toldo: So we’ve been very thoughtful about how we’ve done that as well. [00:47:04] Vince Menzione: Die from you. I know you had something. [00:47:06] Dai Vu: No, no, no. I, I was good. [00:47:08] Vince Menzione: What is the one thing that people in this room need to go better and differently? Is there one, is there one specific thing other than what we’ve already discussed, did we miss anything? [00:47:16] Dai Vu: No, I would just, the whole identification. So obviously, uh, identifying this is not just like slapping a chat bot, but more around thinking all the things we talked about, product commercials, but also go to market where it’s agent first, where you can surface your agent in a workflow like Gemini Enterprise app. [00:47:34] Dai Vu: That’s gonna drive high alignment with how we work and go to market with Google. [00:47:38] Vince Menzione: Awesome. [00:47:38] Dai Vu: Yeah. [00:47:40] Vince Menzione: Wow. Good stuff. Yeah. Very good session. [00:47:44] Dai Vu: Thank [00:47:44] Vince Menzione: you guys. What do you think? Everyone? Thank you very much. [00:47:47] Shawn Toldo: Thanks for listening to the Ultimate Partner Podcast. [00:47:50] Vince Menzione: If today’s conversation resonated, share it with a partner leader in your network. [00:47:55] Vince Menzione: Subscribe where you listen, and head over to the ultimate partner.com. For show notes related content and the resources for this episode. And if you haven’t already, now’s the time to register for the Ultimate Partner Live Event in Reston, Virginia, [00:48:11] John Janke: October 26th through October 28th. [00:48:14] Vince Menzione: Until next time, keep showing up in the rooms that matter because being in the room changes everything [00:48:22] I.
- मिठाई-दुकान की टूटही बेंच और बालूशाही का बालू - अयोध्या में चोर नाचा किसने देखा? और कॉकरोच जनता पार्टी की आंदोलन में सोनम वांगचुक क्या कर रहे? - शत्रुधन, बापू और सिया-केतन-चेतन पर बतरस - रिजेक्शन और समाज का डर और सोनम वांगचुक साइंटिस्ट हैं या नहीं? - एजेंडा में सरकारी घोटाले और गड़बड़झाले पर बतरस - बीजेपी और कांग्रेस की ग़लती - DBT से लोग कामचोर हो रहे? अर्थशास्त्री नजरिए से पैसा देने वाली योजना पर बतरस सुनिए - सरकार घोटाला है या घोटाला ही सरकार और मानवाधिकार नाम की चीज़ पर ताऊ का ज्ञान - नौरंगी की गाड़ी और घास का भोजन - टोल टैक्स का घोटाला, स्टाम्प ड्यूटी का घोटाला और आवेदन फॉर्म का घोटाला - बिज़ार में स्वीडन का कौवा - चिट्ठीयां - प्रड्यूसर : अतुल - साउंड : रोहन
What does it really take to build an effective treatment plan for a condition that touches every system in the body, when there is no single magic pill? In this episode, host Dr. Linda Bluestein, the Hypermobility MD, is joined by recurring co-host Dr. Dacre Knight, Medical Director of the UVA Health EDS and Hypermobility Disorders Center, to complete their series on the MENS-PMMS Method™, Dr. Bluestein's comprehensive treatment framework for hypermobility disorders. Together, they cover the final four components of the MENS-PMMS Method™: psychosocial factors, modalities, medications, and supplements. The conversation centers on a recurring theme: meaningful improvement rarely comes from one breakthrough, but from stacking many small wins across every domain. They explore the physiologic mind-body connection and why validation is one of the most underrated and accessible interventions, alongside nervous system regulation approaches like CBT, DBT, EAET, EMDR, and Dr. Beth Darnall's Empowered Relief program. On modalities, they discuss heat, massage, acupuncture, dry needling, TENS units, bracing, and the often-overlooked power of diaphragmatic breathing, framed by Dr. Pradeep Chopra's "10% rule." The medication discussion covers a start-low-go-slow philosophy, medication sensitivities and pharmacogenomics, the importance of deprescribing to avoid polypharmacy, and options for POTS and mast cell activation. They close with a candid look at supplements, true deficiencies like scurvy and low vitamin D, the marketing traps to watch for, and a reminder to measure progress by function and quality of life rather than chasing a cure. Takeaways: • The MENS-PMMS Method™ emphasizes a whole-person approach, recognizing that meaningful improvement in EDS and HSD comes from addressing multiple domains rather than relying on a single treatment. • Lasting progress is often the result of accumulating many small gains across different interventions, an approach reflected in Dr. Pradeep Chopra's "10% rule." • Validation is not just compassionate care—it is a powerful therapeutic tool that can reduce distress, improve engagement, and support nervous system regulation. • The connection between physical symptoms and emotional well-being is physiologic, underscoring the importance of addressing both body and mind in treatment planning. • When introducing new therapies, changing one variable at a time can help patients and clinicians better identify what is helping, what is not, and what may be causing side effects. • Medication management should balance potential benefits with the risks of sensitivities, side effects, and polypharmacy, making deprescribing an important part of high-quality care. • Supplements are most valuable when they address a documented deficiency or specific clinical need rather than being used as a substitute for a comprehensive treatment plan. • Patients should be cautious of products or programs that promise cures, quick fixes, or dramatic results for complex chronic conditions. • Functional improvement, participation in meaningful activities, and quality of life are often better measures of success than symptom elimination alone. • The most effective treatment plans are individualized, flexible, and designed to evolve as a patient's needs, goals, and circumstances change. Go AquaTru.com now for 20% off (your purifier) using promo code BENDY. Want to learn more about the UVA EDS Center? For Appointments and Questions: RUVAEDSCenter@uvahealth.org UVA EDS: https://www.uvahealth.com/healthy-practice/advancing-care-through-ehlers-danlos-clinic UVA EDS FAQ: https://www.uvahealth.com/support/eds/faq UVA Pediatric Integrative Medicine: https://childrens.uvahealth.com/specialties/integrative-health Want more Dr. Linda Bluestein, MD? Website: https://www.hypermobilitymd.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bendybodiespodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hypermobilitymd/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BendyBodiesPodcast X: https://twitter.com/BluesteinLinda LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hypermobilitymd/ Newsletter: https://hypermobilitymd.substack.com/ Shop my Amazon store https://www.amazon.com/shop/hypermobilitymd Dr. Bluestein's Recommended Herbs, Supplements and Care Necessities: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/hypermobilitymd/store-start Thank YOU so much for tuning in. We hope you found this episode informative, inspiring, useful, validating, and enjoyable. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to level up your knowledge about hypermobility disorders and the people who have them. Join YOUR Bendy Bodies community at https://www.bendybodiespodcast.com/. YOUR bendy body is our highest priority! 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What does it really take to build an effective treatment plan for a condition that touches every system in the body, when there is no single magic pill? In this episode, host Dr. Linda Bluestein, the Hypermobility MD, is joined by recurring co-host Dr. Dacre Knight, Medical Director of the UVA Health EDS and Hypermobility Disorders Center, to complete their series on the MENS-PMMS Method™, Dr. Bluestein's comprehensive treatment framework for hypermobility disorders. Together, they cover the final four components of the MENS-PMMS Method™: psychosocial factors, modalities, medications, and supplements. The conversation centers on a recurring theme: meaningful improvement rarely comes from one breakthrough, but from stacking many small wins across every domain. They explore the physiologic mind-body connection and why validation is one of the most underrated and accessible interventions, alongside nervous system regulation approaches like CBT, DBT, EAET, EMDR, and Dr. Beth Darnall's Empowered Relief program. On modalities, they discuss heat, massage, acupuncture, dry needling, TENS units, bracing, and the often-overlooked power of diaphragmatic breathing, framed by Dr. Pradeep Chopra's "10% rule." The medication discussion covers a start-low-go-slow philosophy, medication sensitivities and pharmacogenomics, the importance of deprescribing to avoid polypharmacy, and options for POTS and mast cell activation. They close with a candid look at supplements, true deficiencies like scurvy and low vitamin D, the marketing traps to watch for, and a reminder to measure progress by function and quality of life rather than chasing a cure. Takeaways: • The MENS-PMMS Method™ emphasizes a whole-person approach, recognizing that meaningful improvement in EDS and HSD comes from addressing multiple domains rather than relying on a single treatment. • Lasting progress is often the result of accumulating many small gains across different interventions, an approach reflected in Dr. Pradeep Chopra's "10% rule." • Validation is not just compassionate care—it is a powerful therapeutic tool that can reduce distress, improve engagement, and support nervous system regulation. • The connection between physical symptoms and emotional well-being is physiologic, underscoring the importance of addressing both body and mind in treatment planning. • When introducing new therapies, changing one variable at a time can help patients and clinicians better identify what is helping, what is not, and what may be causing side effects. • Medication management should balance potential benefits with the risks of sensitivities, side effects, and polypharmacy, making deprescribing an important part of high-quality care. • Supplements are most valuable when they address a documented deficiency or specific clinical need rather than being used as a substitute for a comprehensive treatment plan. • Patients should be cautious of products or programs that promise cures, quick fixes, or dramatic results for complex chronic conditions. • Functional improvement, participation in meaningful activities, and quality of life are often better measures of success than symptom elimination alone. • The most effective treatment plans are individualized, flexible, and designed to evolve as a patient's needs, goals, and circumstances change. Go AquaTru.com now for 20% off (your purifier) using promo code BENDY. Want to learn more about the UVA EDS Center? For Appointments and Questions: RUVAEDSCenter@uvahealth.org UVA EDS: https://www.uvahealth.com/healthy-practice/advancing-care-through-ehlers-danlos-clinic UVA EDS FAQ: https://www.uvahealth.com/support/eds/faq UVA Pediatric Integrative Medicine: https://childrens.uvahealth.com/specialties/integrative-health Want more Dr. Linda Bluestein, MD? Website: https://www.hypermobilitymd.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bendybodiespodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hypermobilitymd/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BendyBodiesPodcast X: https://twitter.com/BluesteinLinda LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hypermobilitymd/ Newsletter: https://hypermobilitymd.substack.com/ Shop my Amazon store https://www.amazon.com/shop/hypermobilitymd Dr. Bluestein's Recommended Herbs, Supplements and Care Necessities: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/hypermobilitymd/store-start Thank YOU so much for tuning in. We hope you found this episode informative, inspiring, useful, validating, and enjoyable. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to level up your knowledge about hypermobility disorders and the people who have them. Join YOUR Bendy Bodies community at https://www.bendybodiespodcast.com/. YOUR bendy body is our highest priority! 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Daniel and Drew are back and there's a lot to catch up on! Daniel opens up about losing his grandfather this month. From there, the boys look ahead to July and the upcoming Asians Represent episode on BattleTech's Capellan Confederation and why it's a fascinating (and challenging) subject. In Battle Report, Daniel recaps a packed month of hobbying - Anime North, lunch with Forgotten Realms creator Ed Greenwood, and a lot of model kits and TCG events! Drew, meanwhile, has been diving into Riftbound and navigating the new 11th Edition of Warhammer 40K. He also shared a story about a particularly...fragrant night at Miniature Market. For mail time, the guys tackled a deceptively deep question - how do you keep a gaming group going? Daniel breaks down five skills: consistency, candor, initiative, mutual effort, and making people feel seen. Drew shared some hard lessons from friendships that faded, and why short-term conflict is always better than long-term rot. A personal update on Daniel's family and the month off BattleTech episode preview: Capellan Confederation and yellow peril Book giveaway: a signed copy of Race and Monstrosity in Dungeons & Dragons by Chris LeCluyse Battle Report: Anime North, Ed Greenwood, Gundam Card Game locals, Warhammer 40K 11th Edition Riftbound impressions and the unofficial online client GW's quiet crackdown on Tabletop Simulator mods How to keep a gaming group alive: five skills every player needs Drew's DBT-informed take on conflict, communication, and friendship Patron Q&A *We are working on conducting a follow up interview with Dr. LeCluyse on race and monstrosity in D&D, so drop any questions you have about the topic in the #show-discussions channel in our Discord server! //SPONSOR Fans of Asians Represent and No Dice, No Problem can head to adventuredice.ca for 10% off the entire store with code AZNSREPRESENT! //FOLLOW Website | aznsrepresent.com Bluesky | @aznsrepresent YouTube | youtube.com/@aznsrepresent Follow Daniel @danielhkwan and Drew @DrewQuon on Bluesky //CONTACT If you have questions about this episode's themes, suggestions, or anything else related to Asians Represent, get in touch with us at aznsrepresent.com //MUSIC Honey Bee by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Today, I'm speaking with Aliza Tropper. Aliza is a licensed psychotherapist and the founder of Heartful Mental Health, a therapy practice based in Cedarhurst, NY. Aliza has more than a decade of experience helping adolescents and adults navigate anxiety, trauma, relationship challenges, and life transitions. She takes a holistic approach, integrating mind, body and soul, and uses evidence-based therapies such as EMDR, CBT, DBT, mindfulness, and more.Her work combines practical tools with deep emotional insight to help people create meaningful, lasting change that is in alignment with their values.This conversation is all about a whole lot of that. I've been thinking so much about healing lately. In our social media focused world, healing can sometimes be contained to 1 or 2-minute sound bites or six-slide carousel posts when in reality, it's hard to fit our lives in a box. While there is so much learning, community and validation that can come from social media, a lot can also be lost. Sometimes it feels like if we just did this one thing that this Instagram post is saying, we would be better — if we just read that one book or bought that one product, we would finally feel healed or have the lives we wanted. We need to remember to go outside the screen to have those real conversations and debrief and connect — there is never a substitute for that.As I spoke to Aliza, I realized that with all the chasing, there also has to be recognition of what is being accomplished every day, there has to be space for emotion — all of them — for the duality of what makes someone human. Becoming healed isn't a destination that you stay at, but a vibrant journey that continues to bring us to new levels of growth. Aliza is so good about breaking down some of the big concepts we see or hear about and making them understandable and really feel doable.In the episode, we speak about:-How healing itself can become an addiction-What DBT and CBT are — the differences between them and how we can utilize them for growth-How to live more in alignment with our values-What to do when uncomfortable emotions arise-How we can work to reprogram our nervous systems to feel more calm-How to live life with more intention-How to break free of comparison culture and a consumer-based society-How to make friends as an adult and why it feels different than it may have before-How to work on building self-esteem-The power of integrating spirituality in your healing journey…and so much more!To learn more from Aliza or to work with her, visit Heartfulmentalhealth.comFind her on Instagram @alizathetherapistEmail her at Aliza@heartfulmentalhealth.com
From Borderline to Beautiful: Hope & Help for BPD with Rose Skeeters, MA, LPC, PN2
In this episode, Rose Skeeters welcomes Bob Drozek, a leading expert in mentalization-based treatment (MBT), to discuss how understanding and improving mentalizing can support hope and recovery from borderline personality disorder (BPD). Listeners will gain insights into the foundational concepts of MBT and practical strategies for fostering better emotional and relational health.Key topics:Mentalization explained: Accessing, reflecting, and understanding mental states in oneself and others (00:00:41)The importance of mentalization in everyday life and therapy (00:55:27)How trauma, rejection, and intense emotions disrupt mentalizing abilities (01:26:00)The role of psychical equivalence mode—certainty about negative self-beliefs— in BPD (05:03:00)Differences between skills-based therapies like DBT and relational, reflective approaches like MBT (13:42:00)The structure of MBT treatment: Formulation, collaborative development, and tailored strategies (16:19:00)Tools to assess and enhance self-awareness, including worksheets for identifying mentalizing strengths and vulnerabilities (19:00:00)The certainty toolkit and overcoming rigid beliefs about oneself and others (21:16:00)Building empathy: Overcoming empathic deficits related to shame and self-criticism (31:00:00)Navigating unstable self-identity through perspective-taking and understanding emotional validation (38:06:00)Success stories of MBT applying to real-world recovery, reducing self-harm, and improving relationships (45:30:00)Resources & LinksPurchase Mentalization Workbook here: https://a.co/d/0dIkE170Access Facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/MentalizationBookWorksheets: https://global.oup.com/booksites/content/9780198916857/Contact Bob Drozek here: rdrozek@mclean.harvard.eduInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/robertdrozek/MBT Boston—an organization that Bob Drozek co-founded that offers training and supervision to clinicians across the world in MBT: www.mbtboston.com/Need individual support? Schedule a session with Rose here: https://www.thriveonlinecounseling.com/product/individual-sessions/To schedule with Jay, click here: https://www.thriveonlinecounseling.com/product/22608/Gift cards now available for purchase here: https://www.thriveonlinecounseling.com/product/gift-card/**This episode is colloquial not clinical, using personal anecdotes to support conveying information in an informal, relatable way**Thank you to Noah Esreal for sharing his latest song with us, Now Knowing This. If you liked the clip in the beginning of this episode, you can find the whole song at the end of the episode.
It's time for a re-do! When Kate and Michelle first recorded this episode, it was during COVID which resulted in poor sound quality as they adjusted to recording virtually. In this special re-recorded episode, they explain opposite action all over again, providing new personal examples to help explain the skill. Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
While many people have heard of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) fewer know about Mentalization-Based Treatment (MBT), an evidence-based therapy that is producing remarkable results for people living with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). In this episode, host Gabe Howard sits down with Robert P. Drozek, LICSW, a teaching associate in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and author of “Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder.” Together, they explore how mentalization—the ability to understand your own thoughts, feelings, and motivations while considering the perspectives of others—can help reduce the emotional instability, relationship challenges, impulsivity, and self-destructive behaviors often associated with borderline personality disorder. Robert explains what happens when intense emotions or fears of rejection disrupt a person's ability to accurately interpret themselves and others. He breaks down how Mentalization-Based Treatment works, what a typical therapy session looks like, and why some people who haven't connected with DBT may find MBT to be a powerful alternative. Listeners Will Learn: · Discover how Mentalization-Based Treatment (MBT) was developed and why it is evidence-based · Explore the key differences between MBT and Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) · Find out what happens during a typical MBT therapy session · Understand how rigid certainty about yourself or others can fuel emotional suffering Whether you've been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, love someone who has, or simply want to better understand this treatable mental health condition, this conversation offers hope, practical insights, and a fresh perspective on recovery. Listen now! “When (people with borderline personality disorder) are overwhelmed by emotion, they stop reflecting. Mentalization helps them get their minds back online.” ~Robert P. Drozek, LICSW Robert P. Drozek, LICSW, is the clinical director of the Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts. He is a teaching associate in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, specializing in the treatment of borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder. He is author of the new book, Mentalization: Utilizing reflection to heal from borderline personality disorder—the first book for the general public about mentalization-based treatment. Our host, Gabe Howard, is an award-winning writer and speaker who lives with bipolar disorder. He is the author of the popular book, "Mental Illness is an Asshole and other Observations," available from Amazon; signed copies are also available directly from the author. Gabe is also the host of the "Inside Bipolar" podcast with Dr. Nicole Washington. Gabe makes his home in the suburbs of Columbus, Ohio. He lives with his supportive wife, Kendall, and a Miniature Schnauzer dog that he never wanted, but now can't imagine life without. To book Gabe for your next event or learn more about him, please visit gabehoward.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Do you ever feel like you're stuck in the same emotional loops?The same arguments.The same frustrations.The same moments where you promise yourself, Next time I'll handle this differently…only to find yourself reacting in exactly the same way?If so, you're not broken.You may simply be following an emotional script you didn't know you were carrying.In this week's episode, The Emotional Freedom Formula, I share a powerful 7-step framework that combines CBT, DBT, trauma healing, and identity work to help you understand why you think, feel, and react the way you do.Because here's the truth:Most people focus on changing their habits.But habits are often downstream from identity.And identity is powerful.I share a story about my daughter and Judy Hopps from Zootopia that reminded me of this in the most beautiful way:Sometimes, changing who we believe we are can instantly change how we behave.Episode timestamps:00:57 — Introducing the Emotional Freedom Formula01:54 — Why identity may be the most powerful lever for change02:42 — The Judy Hopps story: how identity transformed behavior instantly05:27 — Step 1: The Neutral Fact06:46 — Identity & Core Beliefs: the invisible thermostat running your life08:40 — Thoughts → Feelings → Actions → Results11:42 — How to identify the identity behind your reactions14:45 — The key to emotional freedom: shifting core beliefs15:26 — How to start using this formula in your own lifeOne of my favorite metaphors from this episode is this:Your identity is like the thermostat in your house.You can work harder, push yourself, and try all the right strategies…but your life keeps returning to the temperature your identity is set to.Real change isn't about forcing yourself to think differently.It's about learning to become someone different.—And if you've been listening to these recent episodes and thinking:"In my head I know exactly what to do … but I still get stuck in the same emotional patterns."That's exactly why I created Untriggerable.It's designed specifically for physicians and high-achieving professionals who are ready to stop being controlled by old emotional scripts and start responding with clarity, resilience, and freedom.You can join our community here:https://www.skool.com/relationshipmastery4physiciansOr simply reply to this email or reach out to admin@drkavethasun.com and my team will send you all the details.-Oh—and if you have something you're navigating and would love my take on it...
In this week's new episode of Bold Beautiful Borderline we meet Dr. Smith, who shares about how he feels medicine has lost its mind. What does this mean? It means that primary care is failing people with severe mental health issues. In our episode he proposes strategies to get medicine back on track to best support individuals in need of mental healthcare. Dr. Smith, MD recently published the book Has Medicine Lost Its Mind: https://amzn.to/4aTpola Send us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about when to learn coping skills for anger, questioning if DBT can work when there's resistance, obsessing over unresolved situations, and coping with getting fired from a job. Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
What can you do if you and your romantic partner constantly bicker at the crag? How do you speak up if your climbing partner has a totally different risk tolerance than you, and you keep getting in way over your head on climbs because of that mismatch? What if one of your climbing partners dropped you, and you can't quite trust them again? How do you move forward if you've witnessed an accident, and nobody seems to be understanding how the trauma continues to live in your mind and body? We sit down with Dr. Jennifer Dragonette, a Licensed Psychologist, trauma specialist, and Certified Single Pitch Instructor who is a clinical provider for the AAC's Climbing Grief Fund Directory, to explore these questions through case studies of belationships you might find familiar. Dr. Dragonette leverages her expertise in couples therapy and DBT to illustrate where communication and therapeutic tools can help build stronger climbing partnerships and solve friction. If you've ever found yourself in need of a little belationship therapy, this epsiode is the place to start!
Do you feel disconnected from your wife, even though you genuinely want to be close to her?For many men in pornography addiction recovery, one of the most painful parts of the journey is not only stopping porn. It is learning how to rebuild trust, emotional safety, and real connection in marriage. You may want to listen, love, repair, and show up well, but still feel like your wife does not trust you, does not see your efforts, or does not believe your intentions. You may try to explain yourself and end up sounding defensive. You may try to help and end up trying to fix her emotions. You may try to be honest and still feel like there is a wall between you.In this episode of No More Desire, I sit down with Tyler Patrick of Therapy Brothers to talk about the real reason many men feel disconnected from their wives, how avoidant men often marry anxious women, and how this anxious-avoidant marriage cycle can quietly destroy trust, intimacy, and emotional connection.Tyler is a marriage and family therapist, certified DBT skills trainer, and has specialized training in treating sexual addiction. He also shares from his own personal recovery story, including the pain of betrayal, secrecy, shame, and the process of becoming a more grounded, honest, emotionally present husband.We talk about why porn addiction and marriage problems are so deeply connected. Porn does not only damage sexual integrity. It damages emotional safety. When a man hides pornography use, lies, minimizes, or keeps secrets, his wife often begins to question everything: “Can I trust him? Is he who I thought he was? What else do I not know?” That rupture of safety is one of the deepest wounds in betrayal trauma.We also discuss why many men shut down, withdraw, get defensive, or disappear into work, screens, or isolation when their wife is upset. Often, this is not because they do not care. It is because shame, fear, and emotional overwhelm take over. The man feels like he is failing, so he protects himself instead of staying present.Tyler explains the anxious-avoidant relationship cycle in a clear and practical way. The anxious partner often moves closer, asks more questions, seeks reassurance, and tries to regain safety. The avoidant partner often pulls away, shuts down, or feels criticized. The more she pursues, the more he withdraws. The more he withdraws, the more unsafe she feels. This cycle can become exhausting for both people.But there is hope.In this conversation, we discuss practical tools for men who want to overcome pornography addiction and become trustworthy again. We talk about emotional regulation, shame resiliency, mindfulness, self-compassion, parts work, taking healthy timeouts without abandoning your wife, and learning how to respond with presence instead of defensiveness.We also talk about why cravings are often emotional signals. A porn craving is not always just about sexual desire. Sometimes it is connected to stress, shame, fear, disconnection, or even the vulnerability of feeling close to your wife. When a man learns to understand what the craving is trying to medicate, he can begin responding with wisdom instead of panic.This episode is for the man who wants to stop hiding. It is for the husband who wants to rebuild trust after porn addiction. It is for the man who wants to become emotionally present with his wife, stop shutting down during hard conversations, and create a recovery lifestyle rooted in truth, love, and masculine self-leadership.Porn addiction trains a man to escape. Recovery trains a man to stay.Stay truthful. Stay grounded. Stay present. Stay in the work.Check out more from Tyler Patrick and the Therapy Brothers at therapybrothers.org/no-more-desire, where you'll find additional resources created specifically for No More Desire listeners.Link to Blog Article for this EpisodeVisit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, including my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.If you're tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We'll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Apply here to explore coaching with Jake Kastleman.Support the showNo More Desire
Empowered Relationship Podcast: Your Relationship Resource And Guide
Navigating the ups and downs of relationships can feel like learning a new language without a guidebook. When emotions run high, or misunderstandings arise, it's easy to get stuck in frustration or repeat patterns that don't serve us—or our partners—well. How do you ask for what you need, stay true to yourself, and keep the connection strong, all at the same time? In this episode, the discussion explores practical tools rooted in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) that help you strike a balance between self-respect, relationship wellbeing, and getting your needs met. Listeners will discover how to pause and choose more effective responses in moments of conflict, learn key strategies for emotional regulation, and find new ways to approach differences with acceptance and actionable change. Whether you're struggling to communicate a small annoyance or facing recurring arguments, this conversation offers concrete skills to foster growth and resilience in any relationship. Shireen Rizvi is a licensed clinical psychologist, board-certified in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). Over the past 25 years, Shireen has conducted research and training in DBT. Her new book, Real Skills for Real Life, co-authored with Dr. Jesse Finkelstein, is available now. Episode Highlights 03:35 Introduction to DBT therapy. 07:55 Learning relationship skills gradually. 10:49 Marcia Linehan's therapy development. 16:07 Embracing acceptance and change. 21:30 Balancing objectives and relationships. 25:33 Balancing priorities in relationships. 29:02 Understanding Emotion Regulation in DBT. 31:29 Understanding emotional dysregulation. 35:08 Managing conflict in relationships. 40:28 Using DBT skills for anxiety. 43:36 Book and resources overview. Your Checklist of Actions to Take Identify Your Objective. Clarify what specific outcome you are hoping to achieve before entering a conversation or making a request. Consider Relationship Impact: Reflect on how you want the other person to feel about you and your relationship after the interaction. Prioritize Self-Respect: Decide how you want to feel about yourself based on how you handle a situation, ensuring you act in line with your values. Pause Before Reacting: When emotions run high, intentionally pause and consider your options before responding or reaching out to your partner. Practice Acceptance and Change: Acknowledge areas where acceptance is needed and where change is possible, aiming for a balanced approach in ongoing issues. Prepare Requests Clearly (DEAR MAN Skill): Formulate clear, specific, and assertive requests using tools like the DEAR MAN acronym to increase the likelihood of your needs being met. Monitor Emotional State: Regularly check in with yourself to assess your emotional regulation, especially before and during difficult interactions. Reflect on Interpersonal Patterns: Periodically review your tendencies in conflict (e.g., always prioritizing the relationship or objective) and adjust to create more balance and effectiveness in your interactions. Mentioned Real Skills for Real Life (*Amazon Affiliate link) (book) Real Skills for Real Life (*Guilford Press link) (book) The High-Conflict Couple (*Amazon Affiliate link) (book) About Dr. Jesse Finkelstein (TheraHive) Marsha M. Linehan Gottman Institute Shifting Criticism For Connected Communication (Free Guide) Connect with Dr. Shireen Rizvi Website: shireenrizvi.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/shireen-rizvi-1a5544193 Co-author of the book Real Skills for Real Life: https://www.therahive.com/team/jesse-finkelstein
Send us Fan MailWhat happens when love feels overwhelming, consuming, and terrifying all at once?In this deeply compassionate episode of Evolve Your Intimacy, Dr. Stephanie explores how Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) can impact intimate relationships—from fear of abandonment and emotional highs and lows to conflict cycles, reassurance-seeking, and the intense need for connection.This conversation goes beyond stereotypes and stigma to unpack what is actually happening emotionally, relationally, and neurologically when BPD traits show up in love and intimacy.You'll learn:Why emotional reactions can feel so immediate and consumingHow the brain responds during perceived rejection or abandonmentWhy reassurance often doesn't “stick” long-termHow partners can validate emotions without losing themselvesThe difference between compassion and over-functioningWhy boundaries are essential—not cruelHow BPD can affect sexual intimacy, desire, and emotional connectionThe role of therapies like DBT in creating healthier relationship patternsDr. Stephanie also provides practical communication tools, grounding strategies, intimacy insights, and a weekly relationship regulation exercise couples can begin using immediately.Whether you live with BPD traits, love someone who does, or simply want to better understand emotional intensity in relationships, this episode offers honest, research-informed guidance without shame or blame.Because healthy love is not built on panic—it's built on safety, repair, boundaries, and emotional honesty.Hosted by Dr. Stephanie Sigler, licensed professional counselor, certified sex therapist, and clinical sexologist, founder of Evolve Your Intimacy.This episode is sponsored by Shameless Care — use code EVOLVE for savings.Bliss CruiseEvolve Your Intimacy on a Bliss Cruise!SwinkatationLife, Love, and Play at the intersection of Swing and Kink... Use Code EVOLVE fDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showEVOLVEYOURINTIMACY.COMSex Therapy |Travel | Retreats| Courses| Podcasts | Articles | Blogs, & VlogsAre you looking to enhance your sexual communication skills? Do you crave a safe space to explore your sexual desires with your partner but aren't sure where to start? Look no further than the Evolve Your Intimacy Podcast, hosted by the renowned Dr. Stephanie.Join Certified Sex Therapist and Licensed Professional Counselor Dr. Stephanie Sigler as she interviews top experts in the field of clinical sexology, veterans in the lifestyle, and popular influencers, bringing you the most accurate information regarding your sexual health and pleasure.NEW SHOWS EVERY WednesdayIf you enjoy the content we produce, show your love by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/evolveyourintimacy
The Outer Realm welcomes the return of Marilynn Hughes Date: June 4th, 2026 EP: 728 TOPIC - Marilynn returns to discuss her boom " Books of Terror- Evil Exists and It's Closer Than You Think" . The age old tale of Good VS Evil has been around for as long as humanity has existed. There has always been a battle for our Souls, and we have always been taught about the consequences of Sin. We have been conditioned throughout lifetimes that there will always be evil at work, however, it begins with us. " The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness." Joseph Conrad Contact for the show - theouterrealmcontact@gmail.com https://linktr.ee/michelledesrochers_ Please support us by Liking, Subscribing, Sharing and Commenting. Thank you !!! About Marilynn: "Marilynn Hughes founded The Out-of-Body Travel Foundation in 2003 (Mission: Reduce Spiritual Hunger Worldwide). Marilynn has experienced, researched, written, and taught about Out of Body Travel and Mysticism since 1987 and has spoken on dozens of radio and television programs to discuss her thousands of out of body experiences. She has studied the Ancient Sacred Texts of all Major and Minor World Religions, as well as Catholic Mystical, Ascetical, Biblical, Doctrinal, Dogmatic, Systematic, Liturgical, Catechetical and Moral Theology. She has also studied Individual Schools of Theology, to include Franciscan, Carmelite, Ignatian, Dominican, and Benedictine. Marilynn has also trained as a Remote Viewer in Transdimensional, Controlled and Associative Remote Viewing and is a Hypnotherapist. She received certifications in various psychological and therapeutic modalities including NLP, REBT, CBT, ACT, DBT, MBCT, EFT, TFT, SFBT and NBA Therapies. Marilynn Hughes has authored 138 books, 40 magazines and 18 CD's on Out of Body Travel and Comparative Religious Mysticism including her seminal classic The Mysteries of the Redemption: A Treatise on Out-of-Body Travel and Mysticism, which was in development to become a feature film/tv series. She was featured in the documentary film, The Road to Armageddon: A Spiritual Documentary, and in Documentary Film Productions: The Grand Phases of the Soul, The Stairway from Earth to Heaven, How to Have an Out-of-Body Experience, The Tao of Mysticism, The Initiations into the Mysteries, The Rites of Passage, The Prayer of the Twelfth Hour and At the Feet of the Masters. Marilynn Hughes has been the subject of several Research Studies including The Out-of-Body Experiment by Alex Tsakiris of Skeptiko. Marilynn Hughes and Dr. Rudy Schild (Professor Emeritus Astrophysics Harvard) co-authored a chapter entitled The Science for Moral Law. She has been featured to speak about Out-of-Body Travel on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory, Midnight in the Desert with Art Bell, the Joan Rivers Show among others. Marilynn Hughes was on the the original board of The Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraordinary Experiences and is a continuing contributor. About The Book: BOOKS OF TERROR: EVIL EXISTS, IT'S CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. Based on the Visions of Mary Hughes: The purpose of this journey is not to present a well balanced view of humanity, but to take you directly into the heart of only one aspect - the evil within. We make no apologies for this, as this is its sole purpose; to allow mankind to see that which lurks beneath hidden sin and thereby give everyone who dares to enter into these gates a second chance. What is this second chance? To see what sin looks like in its truth and allow another choice before it's too late for the remedy. "The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness." Joseph Conrad Marilynn Hughes The Out-of-Body Travel Foundation https://outofbodytravel.org MarilynnHughes@outofbodytravel.org
Today I'm sharing a simple, repeatable framework I use to feel good most days, even when plans fall apart, projects stall, or life throws the usual curveballs. Feeling better isn't about pretending everything is great. It's about building a steady inner state through repeated habits. What are those habits?We start with what a good day looks like in real life for me, from there, I break it down, the process of creating good-day feeling, through 3-pillar lens you can use as a weekly compass: vitality, connection, and purpose. We also talk mindset and emotional regulation, why attention acts like a spotlight, and how CBT, ACT, and DBT-style tools can help you stop catastrophizing and start choosing a better lens. At the end I'll be sharing the core habit that makes everything else work and improve over time.Download your free worksheet - a simple weekly reflection practice to help you find your wins, spot your drains, and apply the 80/20 to your joy and results.If you are enjoying these, subscribe and share it with one person who needs a steadier, fulfilling, peaceful day, and leave a rating and review so more people can find the work.Follow My Daily Blog - Your Best Coaching on Substack.Text Me Your Thoughts and IdeasSupport the showBrought to you by Angela Shurina Certified Health, Sleep, Performance & Executive Coach 360 with 18 years of experience helping people change to feel, be and do their best.
Parenting Anxious Teens | Parenting Teens, Managing Teen Anxiety, Parenting Strategies
Hi Parents! In this episode I'm joined by Dr. Erica Rozmid, a board-certified clinical psychologist and expert in evidence-based therapies like CBT and DBT, to explore the impact of social media and screen time on teen mental health. Together, we dive into the growing concern of doomscrolling and how constant exposure to negative content, comparison, and information overload can contribute to anxiety, emotional dysregulation, and low mood in teens. Dr. Rozmid introduces the powerful concept of shifting from “tech monitoring” to “tech mentoring,” helping parents move beyond simply limiting screen time and instead guide their teens toward healthier, more mindful technology use. We explore how parents can recognize when social media use is becoming problematic, what warning signs to look for, and how to support teens in breaking the cycle of excessive scrolling without creating power struggles. This conversation also highlights the importance of modelling healthy digital habits as parents and creating a home environment where technology supports well-being rather than undermines it. If you're feeling concerned about your teen's relationship with screens, social media, or their mental health, this episode offers practical tools, expert insights, and a more connected, supportive approach to navigating the digital world together. Big hugs, Monica Crnogorac Next Steps Book a Free Discovery Call Visit My Website for More Information on My 8-Week Program Connect With Me on Instagram
Hi ya'll! Welcome to another DBT skill bonus episode celebrating Borderline Personality Disorder Awareness Month. This skill is called GIVE FAST and it is an interpersonal effectiveness skill. It stands for: G - Be gentleI - Act interestedV - ValidateE - Easy mannerF - Be fairA - No apologiesS - Stick to your valuesT - be truthful Here's an overview: https://dbt.tools/interpersonal_effectiveness/fast.phpSend us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Native Yoga Toddcast, licensed clinical social worker and somatic breathwork practitioner Maria de Los Angeles explores powerful body-based tools for nervous system regulation, emotional healing, and holistic wellness.Maria blends her clinical expertise in mental health with somatic breathwork and yoga practices that go beyond traditional talk therapy. Drawing from CBT, DBT, and years of dedicated study, she shares practical guidance on how to release stored tension, reduce anxiety, and cultivate deeper balance through breathwork, mindful movement, and somatic awareness.Whether you're new to yoga or a seasoned practitioner, this episode offers accessible techniques to support your mental health, process emotions, and reconnect with your body. Discover how somatic breathwork and yoga can become essential tools for lasting inner peace and resilience.Topics covered:• Nervous system healing• Somatic breathwork techniques• Yoga for mental health and anxiety relief• Integrative approaches combining CBT, DBT & body-based practicesPerfect for anyone seeking mindfulness, stress relief, trauma-informed yoga, or embodied wellness practices.Visit Maria at her website: https://smwellnessco.com/on IG here: https://www.instagram.com/somaticandmentalwellnessco/Thanks for listening to this episode. Check out:
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about moving past hurt feelings, disrespectful in-laws, betrayal by multiple people, finding a "gray area" with harmful behavior, how to get to know yourself, hypervigilance about a partner's change in tone, seeing a friend who has blocked you, and skills for being in a struggling marriage.TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 42:39-42:41.Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtmeIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com
In this episode, host Duane Osterlind sits down with Dr. Muhamad Aly Rifai, a dual-trained internist, psychiatrist, and addiction medicine specialist with over 25 years of clinical experience. Together, they dive deep into a rising public health concern—Kratom and 7-OH products—and unpack the complex neuroscience of how substance abuse alters brain architecture.Dr. Rifai shares insights from his book, Hijacked Mind: How Addiction Rewires the Soul, exploring the reality of permanent brain changes, the sliver of hope offered by neuroplasticity, and how a holistic Biopsychosocial model can help individuals rebuild their lives.About the GuestMuhamad Aly Rifai, MD, is an internist, psychiatrist, and addiction specialist. He serves as the medical director of an addiction treatment center and has spent the last two decades treating individuals facing co-occurring psychiatric disorders and chemical dependencies. He is also known online as "The Virtual Psychiatrist."Key Takeaways & Discussion Points1. The Kratom Crisis: Natural Leaf vs. 7-OHKratom is a tropical tree native to Southeast Asia. While traditionally used as a tea for pain relief, a massive commercial market has emerged around it in the United States, creating two distinct camps:The Natural Leaf Camp: Powdered or dried leaves primary containing mitragynine. Many users report it offers relief from chronic pain, fibromyalgia, and fatigue when used responsibly.The 7-OH Camp: Highly potent, biochemically isolated 7-hydroxymitragynine sold in gas stations and smoke shops as pills, extracts, and drinks.The Clinical Reality: Because these products are completely unregulated by the FDA, consumers often don't know what they are ingesting. Dr. Rifai notes a dramatic rise in patients requiring medical detoxification from 7-OH products, experiencing severe withdrawal syndromes comparable to high-dose opioid or fentanyl withdrawal.2. The Neuroscience of a "Hijacked Mind"For years, addiction wasn't fully understood as an architectural shift in the brain. Dr. Rifai explains the sobering realities of what happens when a substance takes over:Down-Regulation: Severe drug use causes a decrease in the number and sensitivity of opioid receptors.Apoptosis: Substances like fentanyl trigger programmed cell death in areas governing executive function, emotional regulation, and perception.Permanent vs. Adaptable Changes: While some cellular damage is irreversible, neuroplasticity allows the brain to build new neural pathways around damaged areas through targeted treatment.3. The Biopsychosocial Model for RecoveryOvercoming severe addiction requires a 360-degree approach. Dr. Rifai breaks down the essential framework for a successful recovery program:Dimension Core Interventions & Strategies Biological Complete abstinence, Medication-Assisted Treatment (MAT) like buprenorphine or methadone, treating underlying psychiatric comorbidities (depression, anxiety), and neurostimulation (like Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation / TMS).Psychological Addressing cognitive distortions "on steroids," processing trauma (which is present in 60% to 70% of addiction cases), and utilizing evidence-based therapies like CBT and DBT .Social Building a supportive network through family involvement, peer support counselors, prescription digital therapeutics (specialized apps), and 24/7 accessible support groups like AA/NA via Zoom.Words of Hope"Help is out there. Even if you're hopeless and see no way out, help is available. There is a way out and there is somebody out there to help. So reach out."Resources & Links MentionedDr. Rifai's Website: alirifai.comDr. Rifai's YouTube Channel: The Virtual PsychiatristDr. Rifai's Book: Hijacked Mind: How Addiction Rewires the Soul (Available on Amazon)Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 (Available 24/7, free, and confidential)Follow and Review: We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.Supporting Resources:If you live in California and are looking for counseling or therapy please check out Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery CenterNovusMindfulLife.comWe want to hear from you. Leave us a message or ask us a question: https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmindDisclaimerSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
Before You Refer to the Hospital: De-Escalation, Safety Planning, and Wraparound Care for Teens in Crisis When a suicidal teen is in crisis, is the hospital really the safest call? What outpatient therapists need to know. Curt Widhalm, LMFT, leads this episode from his work running a comprehensive DBT private practice in Los Angeles that specializes in higher-acuity adolescent cases, including teens with serious suicidality, self-harm, and emotional dysregulation. These are exactly the clients most often routed toward psychiatric hospitalization or platform-based care, and Curt argues the default-to-hospital reflex frequently makes things worse, not better. Drawing on recent research and his clinical experience, Curt walks through the iatrogenic harms of adolescent psychiatric inpatient care, why post-discharge is the highest-risk window for completed suicide, and how clinician anxiety can drive premature 5150 holds and crisis referrals. Katie Vernoy, LMFT, joins with years of LPS-designated assessment experience from community mental health, naming what really happens when a teen gets sent in, including the relational rupture that often starts the moment a crisis evaluation is requested. Together they show outpatient therapists, including solo practitioners, how to build the clinical infrastructure that makes hospital diversion a real option: standardized risk assessment, collaborative safety planning that starts at intake, verbal de-escalation, family-integrated care, and wraparound treatment teams that include both formal providers and informal natural supports. This is a continuing education podcourse. Therapists can earn 1 CE credit through the Modern Therapist Learning Community at moderntherapistcommunity.com. What you'll take away: - How to recognize when a teen client really needs inpatient care, and when escalation will cause more harm than help - How to use standardized risk assessment tools (C-SSRS, LRAMP) without losing the therapeutic relationship - How to build a safety plan that actually works, and what to leave out (hint: no-suicide contracts) - What to teach parents about verbal de-escalation and environmental modifications at home - How to construct a mini Intensive Outpatient Program inside a solo or small-group practice - Who belongs on a wraparound treatment team, and how to find informal supports that families often forget to mention - How systemic barriers and health disparities shape access and outcomes for Black, Hispanic, and lower-SES adolescents Timestamps: 00:15 - CE intro and how to earn 1 CE credit 05:17 - Why outpatient therapists need real de-escalation protocols 11:23 - What actually happens during a crisis evaluation, with Katie's LPS-designated insights 18:46 - Iatrogenic harm and post-discharge suicide risk in adolescents 26:27 - Distant admissions, capped beds, and reentry into school and community 30:43 - Building safety plans from the first session, not the first crisis 34:32 - What belongs in a comprehensive adolescent safety plan 41:05 - When a teen says "I want to die," and why language matters 47:27 - Family-integrated care in solo private practice 48:56 - Building a mini IOP without the institutional overhead 55:29 - Wraparound teams and the role of informal natural supports 59:51 - ROIs, HIPAA-compliant communication, and minor consent 1:01:00 - Health disparities and access for marginalized adolescents Earn 1 CE credit: Therapists can earn 1 CE credit for this episode through the Modern Therapist Learning Community. Register, purchase the course, pass the post-test, and complete the evaluation to receive your certificate. Therapy Reimagined is approved by the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT CEPA #132270). Please check with your licensing board to confirm eligibility. Full show notes, references, and transcript: mtsgpodcast.com CE enrollment: moderntherapistcommunity.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/mtsgpodcast Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist's Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann: https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano: https://groomsymusic.com/
Jessica Baum, LMHC is a licensed psychotherapist whose journey began with a lifelong curiosity about the “Whys” of life: why we feel, connect, and experience the world the way we do. This passion led her to specialize in trauma, attachment theory, and interpersonal neurobiology. Jessica believes that connection to ourselves and others is at the heart of healing, and she uses a range of modalities to help individuals and couples return to wholeness. She is the founder of the Relationship Institute of Palm Beach, a private group practice, and she leads the Conscious Relationship Group, a global coaching company offering support to clients worldwide. Jessica is a certified addiction specialist and Imago couples therapist with advanced training in EMDR, experiential therapy, CBT, and DBT. Today on the show we discuss why people keep choosing familiar partners instead of healthy ones, how childhood attachment wounds can shape adult dating patterns, why anxious and avoidant attachment get misunderstood and overused, how intensity can be mistaken for intimacy, why true safety in a relationship can feel boring or uncomfortable at first, and how healing happens through safe “anchor” relationships that help people build earned security and stop repeating the same painful cycles and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Recovering from invalidation is an interpersonal effectiveness skill in DBT. In Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), “recovering from invalidation” refers to recognizing when another person dismisses, minimizes, ignores, or misunderstands your emotions and then responding effectively instead of spiraling into shame, self-doubt, or emotional dysregulation. The skill involves grounding yourself in the understanding that your emotions and experiences can still be real and meaningful even if another person does not validate them, while also using interpersonal effectiveness skills to communicate needs, maintain self-respect, and decide how to respond in the relationship. Here's the DBT pages on this skill: https://eymtherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/recovering-from-invalidation.pdfDr. Kristen Neff self-compassion information here: https://self-compassion.org/Send us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
If your child is escalating and you are escalating too, that is not a discipline problem. It is a nervous system moment. In this conversation, I talk with Eva Crawford, LCSW-C, about what somatic work actually means and why it matters so much for parents of neurodivergent kids. Eva explains how many of us are not noticing what is happening in our own bodies until we are already fully triggered, and how that makes it much harder to respond the way we want to. We talk about interoception, trauma responses, shame, and the ways parents can start building awareness before they hit the point of yelling, shutting down, or spiraling. We also get into one of my favorite parts of the conversation: Eva's smoke alarm analogy. She explains that some kids have incredibly sensitive nervous systems, so what looks like a huge overreaction may actually be a smoke alarm going off over crispy toast. The problem is that when the child's alarm sets off the parent's alarm too, nobody is helping the house feel safer. We talk about what repair really looks like, why your child cannot borrow calm from a dysregulated parent, and why you do not have to be perfectly healed to be a good parent. You just have to stay curious enough to keep learning. Key Takeaways Somatic work starts with noticing the body sooner. Instead of waiting until you are in full panic, rage, or shutdown, somatic work helps you notice the earlier signs like tight shoulders, jaw tension, jitteriness, heat, or shallow breathing. Many parents are not reacting the way they want to because they are already escalated. That does not automatically mean they lack parenting knowledge. Often it means their nervous system is taking over before they can access the response they would prefer. Your child's distress can trigger your own unfinished material. If your reaction feels bigger than the moment calls for, that is often a clue that something older or deeper is being activated in you. Kids cannot borrow calm from a dysregulated parent. If you want to help a child regulate, you usually have to bring your own system down first, even if only by one notch. The goal is not to lecture the smoke alarm. When a child is in a full nervous system response, logic is not going to land. Safety, co-regulation, and lowered threat come first. Repair matters more than perfection. The rupture itself is not always what causes the most damage. What matters most is whether you come back, take responsibility, and reconnect. A real apology is about your behavior, not the child's feelings. You are not apologizing for their upset. You are apologizing for how you showed up when you were overwhelmed. Shame shuts down growth. Curiosity opens it back up. If you feel ashamed after a parenting moment, that can be a signal that there is something important to understand, not proof that you are failing. Parents need in-the-moment tools and long-term healing. A 30-second reset can help during a meltdown, but lasting change also comes from capacity building, self-compassion, therapy, coaching, and addressing old patterns. You do not have to be fully healed to be a good parent. You do need humility, awareness, and a willingness to keep making adjustments. About Eva Crawford Eva Crawford, LCSW-C, is a licensed clinical social worker and board-certified supervisor with more than a decade of experience providing holistic, trauma-informed care. Her work integrates somatic, narrative, DBT, and ACT approaches with a neurodiversity-affirming lens to support individuals and families navigating complex trauma, burnout, and major life transitions. Eva is known for creating a grounded, compassionate therapeutic space that emphasizes safety, sense of self, and meaningful change. About Your Host, Gabriele Nicolet I'm Gabriele Nicolet, toddler whisperer, speech therapist, parenting life coach, and host of Complicated Kids. Each week, I share practical, relationship-based strategies for raising kids with big feelings, big needs, and beautifully different brains. My goal is to help families move from surviving to thriving by building connection, confidence, and clarity at home. Complicated Kids Resources and Links
Content warning: This episode discusses self-harm and suicide. ADHD doesn't cause self-harm, but the research is clear: People with ADHD — especially women and girls — are significantly more likely to engage in self-harming behaviors, especially during adolescence. Why is ADHD so closely linked to self-harm? In this episode, Dr. J breaks down how the core features of ADHD — impulsivity, emotional dysregulation, sleep disruption, and difficulty with the “pause button” — can create a perfect storm for dangerous coping. She explains why big emotions hit harder and faster with ADHD, and how that can lead to self-harming behaviors. Dr. J also shares evidence-based strategies for building safer ways to cope, including DBT (dialectical behavior therapy), self-compassion exercises, and safety planning. And she talks about maintaining the routines that keep ADHD symptoms manageable. If you or someone you know is struggling, the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is available 24/7. For more on this topic Watch: ADHD and emotional dysregulation Read: Free resources For a transcript and more resources, visit MissUnderstood on Understood.org. You can also email us at podcast@understood.org. Understood.org is a nonprofit organization dedicated to empowering people with learning and thinking differences, like ADHD and dyslexia. If you want to help us continue this work, donate at understood.org/give Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
More stories from men with BPD today! Clark is here to share his story with Borderline Personality Disorder. He's experienced prison, getting sober, parenting, and is about to embark on a new therapy journey. Thank you Clark for sharing your story! Send us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
Your partner said all the right things. So why do you feel MORE alone than before you opened up? Welcome to positive invalidation. That strange ache—being reassured into invisibility—has a name. It's what happens when "you're so good at your job, don't even worry about it" lands like a door quietly closing on what you actually feel. In this episode, Tony Overbay unpacks the science of validation, the paradox underneath it, and why the partner who soothes you fastest may be regulating their own nervous system, not seeing yours. Through the story of Archie and Veronica, this episode explores: Why positive invalidation stings more than the obvious kind—and how to spot it inside your own well-meaning reassurances Dr. Marsha Linehan's "kernel of truth" definition of validation, plus Tony's four pillars of a connected conversation David Schnarch's distinction between other-validated and self-validated intimacy—and why needing validation is the real trap The co-regulation research (including the famous fMRI hand-holding study) that explains why your partner's bad day becomes your emergency The four stages of competence, from "unconscious incompetence" to actually living it—and why stage two is where most people quit therapy HALT, upstream versus downstream work, and a surprising tangent into energy landscapes and Buddhist non-self As a licensed marriage and family therapist who's spent decades guiding couples back toward each other, Tony weaves together DBT, ACT, and Schnarch's differentiation work to answer one question: can you give validation as a gift without needing it back? If something here resonates, share it with someone who needs to hear that they're not broken—they're human. Please follow Tony on Instagram @virtual.couch on Tiktok @virtualcouch on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/tonyoverbaylmft and on Substack https://thevirtualcouch.substack.com/ You can reach out to Tony through his website tonyoverbay.com or by emailing contact @ tonyoverbay.com 00:00 Welcome and Disclaimer 02:28 Meet Archie and Veronica 03:07 A Compliment That Hurts 05:08 Positive Invalidation Explained 06:35 Where Invalidation Comes From 09:10 Science of Validation and DBT 09:49 Four Pillars of Connection 12:31 Validation Research and Polarization 14:52 Schnarch and Differentiation 18:05 Self-Validated Intimacy 19:08 Non-Self and Interdependence 22:58 Co-Regulation and Fusion 26:08 When Comfort Is for You 28:11 Co-Regulation as Hope 28:57 When Growth Triggers Chaos 30:03 Energy Landscapes Explained 32:01 Biology of Pushback 35:02 Validation Paradox 38:12 Self-Validated Intimacy 41:12 Building Self-Validation 46:20 Veronica and Archie Revisited 47:09 Upstream vs Downstream 51:37 Four Stages of Change 55:00 Key Takeaways and Wrap
May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and as AI becomes more embedded in our daily lives, one of the biggest questions we face is whether these systems can responsibly support emotional and psychological well-being.AI chatbots are increasingly being used for emotional support, but recent lawsuits faced by OpenAI and earlier ones targeting character.ai and Google's AI Overviews, as well as clinical reports, and internal research have raised valid concerns about their impact on vulnerable users.What does it take to build an AI system specifically designed for mental health from the ground up? Is that even possible?In this LIVE episode of The Neuron Podcast, Corey Noles and Grant Harvey speak with Daniel Reid Cahn, co-founder and CEO of Slingshot AI, about Ash, an AI application purpose-built for therapeutic support. Slingshot has raised $93M from a16z, Radical Ventures, and others to develop a foundation model for psychology trained on structured therapeutic conversations across modalities such as CBT, DBT, and psychodynamic therapy.We discuss the limitations of general-purpose chatbots in mental health contexts, recent controversies surrounding AI and psychiatric risk, and what differentiates a system designed to provide structured therapeutic engagement compared to one being used in a way it was never intended to be. The conversation also explores a broader question: Can AI meaningfully expand access to high-quality mental health care, and where should clear boundaries remain? Or should we keep our counseling where we always have, on a couch with a box of Kleenex and a hug nearby?
Happy BPD month ya'll! Each week I'm reviewing a DBT skill as a bonus episode and this week it's DBT Wise Mind. In Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), “wise mind” is the state where your emotional understanding and logical thinking work together.DBT describes three “states of mind”:Emotion mind: driven mainly by feelings, urges, or moodsExample: “I'm furious, so I'm quitting immediately.”Reasonable mind: driven mainly by logic, facts, and analysisExample: “Statistically, staying is safer financially.”Wise mind: the balanced middle ground that includes both emotion and reasonExample: “I'm genuinely unhappy here, but I don't need to make a decision tonight. I can plan a thoughtful next step.”Let's get into it! Send us a text message to be anonymously read and responded to! Support the showYou can find Sara on Instagram @borderlinefromhell. You can also find the podcast on IG @boldbeautifulborderlineCorey Evans is the artist for the music featured. He can be found HERE Talon Abbott created the cover art. He. can be found HERE Leave us a voicemail about your thoughts or questions on the show at boldbeautifulborderline.comIf you like the show we would love if you could rate, subscribe and support us on Patreon. Patreon info here: https://www.patreon.com/boldbeautifulborderline?fan_landing=true Purchase Sara's Exploring Your Borderline Strengths Journal at https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Your-Borderline-Strengths-Amundson/dp/B0C522Y7QT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=IGQBWJRE3CFX&keywords=exploring+your+borderline+strengths&qid=1685383771&sprefix=exploring+your+bor%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1 For mental health supports:National Suicide Preve...
A Brilliant Adaptation: How Dissociative Identity Disorder and the Power of the Therapeutic Bond Saved Me (New Harbinger Publications, 2026) is a searing and profound memoir of one woman's journey through dissociative identity disorder and childhood sexual abuse--and how she found hope, healing, and recovery. Sally Maslansky is living the perfect life: a beautiful home in Malibu, California, a successful Hollywood producer husband who adores her, and a recently adopted son she treasures. But when Sally begins to remember the trauma she endured as a child, her world begins to unravel. In this gripping and provocative memoir, psychotherapist Maslansky shares how childhood sexual abuse led her to develop dissociative identity disorder (DID), and how, with the help of renowned therapist Daniel J. Siegel, she ultimately recovers. The book reveals the power of therapeutic bond to heal deep attachment wounds, the science of neuroplasticity in healing the traumatized mind, and our capacity as human beings to reconcile unspeakable experiences in order to grow, change, and live vibrant, loving, and joyful lives against all odds. Together with Siegel, Maslansky slowly recovers her childhood memories and reconnects with the forgotten parts of herself--parts that she grows to admire, respect, honor, and love, because they literally saved her young mind from unimaginable horrors. In the book, Siegel describes Maslansky's DID as a brilliant adaptation of the mind--a protective force that kept her mentally safe when the people she should have trusted most were the ones responsible for her abuse. Whether you have struggled with DID yourself, love someone who has DID, or are simply looking to be inspired by the tenacity of the human spirit, this memoir offers a provocative glimpse into an often pathologized and misunderstood condition, and shows the profound and healing possibilities of therapy, human understanding, and the will to survive. Sally Maslansky, LMFT has been in private practice for twenty years in Chapel Hill, NC. She treats families, adoption, trauma, parenting, and adult individuals. Her training is in interpersonal neurobiology (IPNB), mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR), eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR), dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), adult attachment interview (AAI), attachment theory, polyvagal theory practices, mindfulness, and the wheel of awareness practice. For more information on Sally and her work, please visit her website sallymaslansky.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network
It's hard to not feel stress at the state of the world today, so how can you cope with stressors without letting them completely overwhelm you? Clinical psychologist Jenny Taitz spends most of her days helping clients navigate through their stress. She shares why she uses Dialectical Behavior Therapy, or DBT, in her therapy work, whether a cold plunge can help you snap out of your messy ruminations, and why doing a few tasks each day to practice for pleasure and mastery can help improve your mood.Featured guestFollow Dr. Jenny Taitz on Instagram, LinkedIn, and at https://www.drjennytaitz.com/Buy Dr. Taitz's book Stress ResetsConnect with the teamFollow Chris on Instagram and at chrisduffycomedy.comBuy Chris' book, Humor Me Watch How to Be a Better Human videos on YouTube at TEDAudioCollectiveFollow TED on X, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and TikTokFor the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscriptsLearn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of Ask Kati Anything, licensed marriage and family therapist Kati Morton addresses why the healing process often feels more overwhelming after a breakthrough or a new diagnosis. We dive deep into the complexities of adult autism, the physical "freeze" response caused by trauma shame, and the frustration of feeling like your mental health journey has stalled. Kati also shares her perspective on the evolving role of GLP-1 medications in treating "food noise" and why reaching out for help when you're "doing okay" is actually the best time for deep therapeutic work. Whether you're navigating a difficult legal trigger like a parole hearing or searching for meaning in the face of depression, this episode provides grounded, empathetic tools to help you move forward. Shopping today's sponsor helps support Ask Kati Anything. ZocDoc - visit https://www.zocdoc.com/KATI to find and instantly book a doctor you love today! Key Topics Covered Autism & "Standard" Therapy: Why therapy can feel like a performance after an adult diagnosis and how to adapt your sessions. The Silence of Shame: How to handle the dissociation and urge to "no-show" after disclosing childhood sexual abuse. Coping Skill "Hard Stops": Recognizing when weed or restrictive eating shifts from a survival tool to a barrier in your recovery. Social Cues & Connection: Practical advice for "reality testing" interactions and distinguishing between friendly and flirty behavior. Maintenance vs. Crisis: Why you don't need to be "doing poorly" to benefit from therapy—and why maintenance work is more effective. The Search for Meaning: Navigating depression when traditional treatments like CBT or DBT feel out of reach or ineffective. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In today's episode, Gina discusses radical acceptance and how we can use this practice to reduce the severity and adverse consequences of anxiety. Radical acceptance is about accepting reality as it is without judgement or resistance. A number of practical steps are shared to help you implement radical acceptance in your life and in turn reduce your anxiety.Tara Brach's book: Radical Acceptance: Embracing Your Life With the Heart of a Buddha https://amzn.to/41W3gAdStillpoint Fridays is my once-a-week Friday note — a slower, more personal reflection that's different from what I share on the podcast. If you'd like a quiet place to land as the week winds down, you can join here: http://eepurl.com/bR2F9P or on our website anxietycoachespodcast.com and sign up for the newsletter. Please visit our Sponsor Page to find all the links and codes for our awesome sponsors! https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.com/sponsors/ Website https://www.theanxietycoachespodcast.comJoin our community Group Coaching Join our Group Coaching Full or Mini Membership Program1:1 Coaching Learn more about our One-on-One CoachingIf you prefer to listen AD-FREE, try our Supercast premium access membership: Learn more about anxiety What is anxiety? Free Guided Meditation for Calming Your Anxious Mind 10-Minute Body-Scan Meditation for AnxietyQuote:Clearly recognizing what is happening inside us, and regarding what we see with an open, kind and loving heart, is what I call Radical Acceptance.-Tara BrachChapters0:26 Introduction to Radical Acceptance3:09 The Power of Acceptance6:15 Steps to Practice Radical Acceptance8:21 Mindfulness and Self-Compassion10:23 Visualization Techniques11:07 Daily Practices for Acceptance14:29 Ongoing Process of Acceptance15:39 Embracing the Serenity Prayer16:54 Sharing the Podcast17:51 Closing Thoughts and QuoteSummaryIn this episode of the Anxiety Coaches Podcast, I delve into the transformative concept of radical acceptance and how it can help manage anxiety, difficult emotions, and challenging situations. Drawing inspiration from Tara Brach's insightful work, I explore the idea that we often spend too much of our energy defending our lives instead of living them fully. By acknowledging our feelings and experiences without judgment, we can begin to cultivate a more peaceful existence.I discuss the principles I've learned from Marsha Linehan's dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), highlighting the importance of embracing both acceptance and change in our lives. I emphasize that anxiety often prevents us from seeing the possibility of these dual approaches, leading us to resist the present moment. Radical acceptance empowers us to understand that every moment is part of a larger continuum, allowing us to move away from judgment and toward acceptance.The episode clarifies that practicing radical acceptance does not equate to resignation. Instead, it is about recognizing reality and finding effective ways to cope with it. By learning to accept our circumstances—like getting stuck in traffic or facing unexpected challenges—we can reduce our stress and shift our perspective toward more constructive actions, such as listening to uplifting content or practicing mindfulness. I share practical strategies to help listeners integrate radical acceptance into their daily lives, starting with acknowledging our resistance to reality, which often leads to self-imposed suffering.#RadicalAcceptance #AnxietyManagement #TaraBrach #DBT #Mindfulness #SelfCompassion #MentalHealthMatters #Resilience #InnerPeace #StressRelief #AnxietyCoachesPodcast #GinaRyan #MarshaLinehan #EmotionalIntelligence #PresentMoment #NonJudgment #MentalWellness #SelfCare #CopingMechanisms #OvercomingAnxiety #MindfulLiving #Psychology #PersonalDevelopment #SerenityPrayer #HolisticHealing #EmotionalRegulation #GrowthMindset #AnxietyRelief #BePresent #SelfLove #MentalHealthAwareness #CalmAndCollected #Neuroplasticity #AcceptanceAndCommitment #WellnessJourney #PeaceOfMind #MindfulnessPractice #Reframing #StayCalm #InnerStrength #LifeSkills #HealingJourney #ACPSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This episode gives a step by step guide to managing mental health crises like self-harm, suicide, or overdose threats.Most people feel completely helpless when someone they love descends into a mental health crisis but what if you had a clear, plan that could save lives? In this episode, Dr. Kibby shares the insider knowledge she gained from working in psychiatric emergency rooms and supporting families through the most dangerous moments. Whether it's a loved one overdosing, becoming violent, or threatening suicide, knowing exactly what to do can make all the difference and even prevent tragedy.Dr.Kibby demystifies the chaos of mental health emergencies. She walks you through what really happens inside the hospital, explains how to recognize dangerous signs like alcohol withdrawal or impulsive self-harm, and reveals the untold reality of involuntary holds and crisis interventions. She shares personal stories and offers practical, repeatable steps to de-escalate crises before they escalate further. Tune in for actionable tactics: how to create a tailored safety plan, the best emergency resources like 988 and mobile crisis teams, and when to call 911 versus seek professional help. You'll learn concrete warning signs and calming techniques from DBT skills, as well as how to assemble your support network in advance. Safety planning isn't just for professionals- it's your first line of defense. With clear advice rooted in real-world experience, this episode equips you to act decisively when it matters most. Don't wait for a crisis to strike! Prepare now, protect those you love, and reclaim your peace of mind.Resources:Safety Plan TemplateDr. Kibby's quick guide for managing an emotional outburst (for free)
Listen ad free on Patreon.In today's episode, I sit down with Dr. Tiffany Towers, Clinical Director and licensed clinical psychologist at Seasons Malibu. Dr. Towers studied psychology and theater at Barnard College at Columbia University and earned her Doctorate in Clinical Forensic Psychology from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. Her work pairs her strong clinical training with a creative, narrative-based approach to therapy.Dr. Towers and I discuss how looking at addiction through the lens of story can help loosen the grip of all-or-nothing thinking. Instead of seeing yourself as permanently defined by past behavior, this approach opens the door to examining patterns, shifting roles, and building a more flexible sense of identity.We also walk through the range of modalities used at Seasons, including EMDR, Brainspotting, somatic work, equine therapy, CBT, and DBT, with a focus on what they actually look like in practice and how to find credible versions of these treatments outside of a residential setting.Dr Towers also emphasizes the value in meeting people where they are, where that is abstinence or harm reduction, and how thoughtful, individualized care can support meaningful progress in either direction.My goal with this episode is to translate high-level clinical insight into something you can use and apply to your own life. Whether you are in recovery, considering change, or working in the field, this conversation offers a grounded, practical way to think about healing and what comes next.Today's episode is brought to you by Seasons in Malibu. For over 18 years, Seasons has been a sanctuary for individuals seeking to reclaim their lives from addiction and mental health challenges. Our story began with a simple but profound vision: To create a luxurious sanctuary for individuals struggling with addiction or mental health issues, where they can receive the finest, evidence-based treatment in the world.Built on Compassion, Driven by ExcellenceWhat started as a small number of compassionate professionals has grown into one of the nation's most respected luxury treatment centers. But growth has never meant losing sight of what matters most—the individual engaging with our therapists, one-on-one, taking the courageous first step toward healing.From the beginning, we understood that truly transformative treatment requires more than clinical protocols. It demands a personalized approach, led by the most qualified professionals, in an environment that nurtures the whole person. That's why we've assembled a team where every primary therapist holds a Doctorate in Psychology - a distinction virtually unmatched in our field.Check out Seasons Malibu online or call 1-866-314-5160 for more information.Connect with Seasons on InstagramDM me on InstagramMessage me on FacebookListen AD FREE & workout with me on Patreon Connect with me on TikTokEmail me chasingheroine@gmail.comSee you next week!
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