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Traveling with children is always challenging, but for parents of children on the autism spectrum and/or those who have mood and attention disorders, it can be especially intimidating. Dawn M. Barclay wrote Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse as the essential resource to make the cultural, educational, and bonding benefits of vacations available to all. The multi award-winning parenting and travel guide was recently released in a paperback edition and is an important read for all families and especially those with autistic or otherwise neurodivergent children.Dawn shares the latest cities and countries that are making a concerted effort to be autism-friendly and how the growth of the vacation rental certification company, Becoming RentABLE , is helping families with a commitment to inclusion and the need to reshape the landscape of travel for individuals with disabilities. And find out how changes at the Champion Autism Network, once known as the Champion Autism Network CAN Card, is now known as AutismTravel.club and how the membership makes it easier to plan and enjoy your family fun with access to autism-ready businesses who will help you and your family have a wonderful vacation. Also on Speaking of Travel, Tina Kinsey, VP of Marketing, PR, and Air Service Development at the Asheville Regional Airport, shares how the airport is like a small city with an interconnected system of tenants and administrators and a tremendously complex system of firefighters, police and groundskeepers.Tina provides an update about the airport's major changes and how they will continue over the next decade as it adapts to a rapidly growing population base and the region's ever-expanding reputation as a tourist destination. And how you can stay connected to the most current changes and be prepared. Tune in. Only on Speaking of Travel! Thanks for listening to Speaking of Travel! Visit speakingoftravel.net for travel tips, travel stories, and ways you can become a more savvy traveler.

Next month is Autism Acceptance Month and therefore I am bringing you this amazing interview I did in April 2022.A couple of years ago I had the pleasure of talking to author Dawn M Barclay and, I think it's safe to say, I learned more from this conversation than from many others I have had over the past 10 years.She's the author of a book called; "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse." It's basically the travel bible for those on the autism spectrum as well as those with mood/attention disorders. Anyone who has a child with such issues or knows someone who does will benefit from the advice contained in this book, plus the tips for special needs children can soothe the hiccups of any family's travel.In a fascinating conversation she basically takes us through the preparation stage of a trip through the trip and then we talk a bit about the return home.She talks us through how to best prepare your child for traveling and a new routine/change in environment.Then we talk about the type of trip that works best for neurodivergent children, things to take into account when booking your trip/places to stay.She gives soo many tips that I couldn't possibly list them all here. All to make the trip as stress free for both you and your kid.It's a wonderfully educational conversation with someone who clearly knows what they're talking about.You can find Dawn, and her book.On her website On FacebookOn April the 2nd the book will be released in paperback form and it really is well worth seeing if you can get your hands on a copy.As always; HPNB still only has 5 billing cycles.So this means that you not only get 3 months FREE access, no obligation! BUT, if you decide you want to do the rest of the program, after only 5 months of paying $10/£8 a month you now get FREE LIFE TIME ACCESS! That's $50 max spend, in case you were wondering.Though I'm not terribly active on  Instagram and Facebook you can follow us there. I am however active on Threads so find me there! And, of course, you can always find us on our YouTube channel if you like your podcast in video form :) Visit healthypostnatalbody.com and get 3 months completely FREE access. No sales, no commitment, no BS. Email peter@healthypostnatalbody.com if you have any questions, comments or want to suggest a guest/topicPlaying us out this week  "Something I can live form" by SPARKZ

Today we speak with Dawn Barclay, author of "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse".  Dawn shares helpful tips for how we can support our children with invisible needs like ADHD, Autism, and anxiety and enjoy creating family memories with less stress!You can connect with Dawn in the following ways:WebsiteTwitterFacebookInstagramLinkedIn

For episode 49, Nikki and Chad are joined by Dawn Barclay, author of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse, to discuss obstacles to traveling with children with mental health difficulties and tips for managing those difficulties with less stress for all. Find Dawn's book here and her blog here. 

Tune in as we sit down with Dawn M. Barclay, an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. Her book, "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse" tackles the challenges parents of autistic and neurodivergent children face when going on short trips and vacations. Join us as we discuss how to create an autism-friendly and stress-free travel experience.

On the Season 7 finale of The LowDOWN: A Down Syndrome Podcast, Dawn Barclay gives us the lowdown on vacation strategies for diverse families. Support the showThe LowDOWN: A Down Syndrome Podcast is produced by the Down Syndrome Resource Foundation. Learn more and support the podcast at DSRF.org.Follow @DSRFCanada on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts.

Dawn Barclay, a veteran travel reporter, the mother of two “challenging” children, and the author of “Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse," shares how she created her travel bible based on interviews from over 100 mental health professionals, special needs parents, autism allies, advocates, and certified autism travel professionals.  Dawn's advice can help soothe the travel hiccups of any family wanting to have adventures with their loved ones on the autism spectrum or with invisible disabilities like ADHD.Discover important tips about starting small, introducing the concept of travel, and having mini-experiences. Find out how you can create the child-centric vacation by doing your due diligence, finding out safety measures, and so much more. A very important show about a very important topic. If you can understand the differences that ASD brings to a family, you can make a difference by supporting a family affected by autism. This is one of the greatest gifts you can give. It is also very likely that your act of kindness may turn out to be one of the greatest gifts you receive back. Tune in on Speaking of Travel. Thanks for listening to Speaking of Travel! Visit speakingoftravel.net for travel tips, travel stories and so much more.

Episode Notes Dawn Gilbertson of the Wall Street Journal discussed what it is like to fly French Bee, Norse Airways and Play, plus the Facebook groups that can help you find free items on the road. Then Dawn M. Barclay talked about her new book "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible and the Neurodiverse".

Author Dawn Barclay discusses her book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.

Hey team, this week I'm talking with Dawn Barclay about her book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Regardless of whether or not you have kids, traveling can be difficult when you have an invisible disability, such as ADHD. There are so many things that we have to keep track of, and even when we get there, there are still a host of things that our ADHD can make even more difficult.Dawn has spent her career working in the travel industry as well as working as a travel writer. She wrote this book as a guide to what she wished she had 20 years ago. In our conversation today we talk about some of the many difficulties that come from traveling with neurodiverse children (and ourselves) and then what we can work on doing to help alleviate some of those stressors. Support me on PatreonFeel free to ask me a question on my Contact PageFind the full show note at HackingYourADHD.com/137

Discover what's possible when travel is made accessible.  Dawn Barclay has dedicated over 30 years to working in different areas of the travel industry. Her recent book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodivese, offers helpful tips to soothe children's travel anxieties. Dawn also writes fiction as D. M. Barr and holds leadership roles in several writer organizations.  In today's conversation, we discuss: Why Dawn thinks everyone should travel Common struggles families face when traveling Practical tips to create a sense of routine, minimize sensory overload, and make a trip enjoyable for the whole family Advice for traveling by plane, cruise ship, or car Uncommon vacation ideas that might be suitable for families with autistic loved ones The importance of building itineraries that include special interests Lessons Dawn learned from traveling with her own children The difference between a ‘Certified Autism Center' and an ‘Autism Friendly' establishment How to introduce the idea of traveling and prepare children for a trip ahead of time To learn more about Dawn Barclay, please visit dawnbarclayink.com. ----more---- Related episodes: 93. Autism-Friendly Travel, with Dina Farmer 115. RTD | Summer Travel and Holidays, with the Global Autism Community ----more---- We appreciate your time. If you enjoy this podcast and you'd like to support our mission, please take just a few seconds to share it with one person who you think will find value in it too. Follow us on Instagram: @autismpodcast Join our community on Mighty Networks: Global Autism Community Subscribe to our YouTube channel: Global Autism Project We would love to hear your feedback about the show. Please fill out this short survey to let us know your thoughts: Listener Survey

Tips For Traveling With Neurodiverse Children Do you have an anxious, inflexible, or neurodiverse child? Traveling can be challenging. Dawn Barclay, a travel writer, gives a sneak peek into her book Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents with Anxious, Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse by giving tips to parents in this Impactful Parent episode. This is a great episode full of gold nuggets and handy tips! Discover how to travel with more ease and fun! ----- LINKS MENTIONED IN THE RECORDING https://theimpactfulparent.com/app Download the FREE Impactful Parent App! Available on Apple and Android App Stores. FREEBIES from episodes included! Apple Store: https://theimpactfulparent.com/ios Android Play Store: https://theimpactfulparent.com/android https://theimpactfulparent.com for more FREE Resources and paid programs. http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/traveling-different---the-book.html For the Book ----- Rate, Review, & Subscribe! "I love Kristina and all the FREE tips that she has to offer!  Thank you for making my parenting journey better!" 

Author Dawn M. Barclay discusses her new book, "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse."  Tune in for valuable insights, travel tips, and stories from the road. 

It's estimated that one out of every 44 children falls on the autism spectrum and many more children have attention and/or mood disorders. It can be challenging for parents of neurodiverse children to successfully incorporate travel into their families' lives. This week we speak with Dawn Barclay, author of a new book called Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Enjoy Dawn's tips for travelling just in time for the holiday and winter travel season! Contact Dawn:  travelingdifferent.com Blog Book #autism #ASD #autismspectrum #neurodiverse #mooddisorder #anxious #attention #parenting #parentingteens #tweens #teens #mentalhealth #parentingadvice #ADHD #travelling #traveling #travelingwithkids #travelanxiety #familytravel As always, this podcast is based on experiences and should not be construed as medical or professional advice. Please speak with your own medical professional. ­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­_____________________________________________ ADs: Pendulum by S.E. German My middle-grade fiction novel Pendulum by S.E. German is available on FriesenPress, Barnes and Noble, Amazon Worldwide (Amazon.com,  Amazon.ca) and more! Ben struggles with his mental health following an infection. He visits countless doctors and endures endless treatments all while trying to manage middle grade trials like his family moving, his first crush and playing competitive sports. This heartwarming story will build empathy and give you a glimpse into how Ben creates hope for the future.   Contact me for speaking engagements in schools, libraries and community events (reallifeproject@gmail.com). Please subscribe, review & share this Podcast! KO-FI You can support the Learning to Slay the Beasts podcast through Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/learningtoslaythebeasts Connect with me IG: @saraladygluten , TikTok @saraladygluten and visit My Author/Podcaster Website: www.se-german.com  Visit my Amazon Storefront for recommendations:  https://www.amazon.com/shop/saraladygluten Sign up for the email list and receive a free Self-Care Calendar! Blog: www.theallergybeast.wordpress.com This post contains affiliate links.

We're out of the house today, talking about travel. If you've ever tried to travel with your neurodivergent kiddos, you know it can be quite a challenge at times. Getting there is not always half the fun. So we're chatting today with Dawn M. Barclay about her new book, “Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents […] The post Travel Tips For Neurodivergent Families | A conversation with Dawn M. Barclay appeared first on Puzzle Peace Counseling.

Welcome to Rad Mom Radio!This week we are joined by author, Dawn Barclay. Dawn is the author of a family travel guide of sorts called "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse." Dawn has spent years interviewing experts of all kinds to give parents all the information they need to have a successful vacation with their neurodiverse child. You can find out more about Dawn's book on her website - dawnbarclayink.comThank you for listening!

Traveling can be challenging for children and adults on the spectrum. 87% of parents with autistic children, do not currently take family vacations. Changes in routine, crowds, new sights and sounds can make experiences difficult for them and their families. We hope this episode, with Dawn Barclay, author of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse, will encourage more travel opportunities for you and your family.  About our Guest http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/ (Dawn Barclay) is an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. After spending several years in sales and marketing, she branched out into travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She is a mother of two and resides in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. Resources mentioned: Traveling Different (where to find Dawn's book) http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/order.html (http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/order.html) Carol Gray Social Stories https://carolgraysocialstories.com/ (https://carolgraysocialstories.com/) Magical Storybook Travels http://www.magicalstorybooktravels.com/ (http://www.magicalstorybooktravels.com/) Beaches Autism Friendly Resorts https://www.beaches.com/all-inclusive/autism-friendly/ (https://www.beaches.com/all-inclusive/autism-friendly/) Dr. Tony Atwood, Autism Spectrum Disorder Expert https://tonyattwood.com.au/ (https://tonyattwood.com.au/) A special thanks to our team https://finnegancounseling.org/counselors/heather-timmis/ (Heather Timmis), Host & Executive Producer Jacel Dickson, Producer and Editor Theme music written and performed by Jim Roman Audio engineering courtesy of our podmasters athttps://3wirecreative.com/ ( 3 Wire Creative) Administrators: Mary Elizabeth Hand and Heather Timmis

Mary talks with Dawn Barclay, author of "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse". Dawn Barclay's Blog Amazon Link to Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse

Do you travel with your child who had different needs? If you answered no, Dawn will show you how to make it easier. Biography Dawn M. Barclay has spent a career working in various aspects of journalism, starting with corporate communications work (brochures, profiles, newsletters, press releases, web content) and then branching out into magazine writing and editing. She has held senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She was the recipient of a First Prize Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for a story on travel law, and in August 2022, Rowman & Littlefield will release her non-fiction book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Essentially the ASD travel bible, the book incorporates over one hundred interviews with parents, Certified Autism Travel Professionals, mental health professionals and special needs advocates. In 2015, Dawn branched off into fiction and as of 2022, has eight books under her belt as either an author (D.M. Barr) or anthology editor. Her award-winning psychological thrillers include Expired Listings (2016) and Saving Grace: A Psychological Thriller (2018, originally published by Black Rose Writing), and her romances include The Queen of Second Chances (2020) and Simple Tryst of Fate (2020), both published through Champagne Book Group. She is the vice president of Sisters in Crime/New York-Tri-State, and the president of the Hudson Valley Romance Writers, and she edits professionally through SoulCrusherEditing.com Want more of Dawn? Find her at: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538168660/Traveling-Different-Vacation-Strategies-for-Parents-of-the-Anxious-the-Inflexible-and-the-Neurodiverse?fbclid=IwAR2KYRW94RlgEcxgeF9WDx-krYEqkcKjOVEvQ1b6d1SXRwKPZoiYxRqdliE Her books are all on Amazon and many libraries will be able to order Traveling Different. If your library doesn't have it, have them contact Rowman & Littlefield. Also see http://www.dawnbarclayink.com http://www.travelingdifferent.com http://www.dmbarr.com See what I am doing at: flowcode.com/p/1v3hLWFG5?fc --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/theresa-alexander-inman/support

Season 2 Episode #37 Dawn Barclay is coming from New York's Hudson ValleyYou can find Dawn via her website travelingdifferent.com.About our guest, Dawn is an award winning author who has traveled the world.   Dawn was inspired by her parents who were also travel experts and has since written for various travel magazines.   Dawn is an accomplished author with works in fiction and most recently, her new nonfiction book – Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Traveling with children is always challenging, but for parents of children with autism spectrum disorder and/or mood and attention and distraction disorders it can be especially intimidating. How should parents of children experiencing meltdowns deal with clueless and judgmental onlookers? What are the best methods to alleviate motion sickness when your child might already be on a cocktail of drugs? Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse answers these and many other questions parents may have when traveling with their children. Dawn, thanks for sharing your gift of hope and love of travel with families and children; thanks for being our guest on Life's Essential Ingredients… Welcome to the Show! TOTD –  “The impulse to travel is one of the hopeful symptoms of life.” Agnes Repplier In this episode:What was life like growing up?Benefits of TravelDefinition of CultureSteps toward get ready for the airport, plane, hotel…Little by little… getting ready to take a bigger step… WANT TO INCREASE PREDICTABILITYWings for Autism – program to help get child ready for travel…CATP Certified Autism Travel Professional 93% of special needs parents do not travel but would love to…Preparation – why is it so important in getting ready to travelDealing with Triggers…SMELLS…VISUAL, NOISE, …Evaluating Different Sites – hotels, camping…Choosing Child Centric Trips = build trips around specific interests…Certified Autism Centers – that are geared specifically for neurodiverse individuals – are there cities that are certified?Each person is different… importance of talking/researching suitable places for your needsLegacy Thanks for listening and enjoy the show! 

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"Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse" Dawn M. Barclay is an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. She started as an agent with her parents' firms, Barclay Travel Ltd and Barclay International Group Short-Term Apartment Rentals, and then branched out into travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She is a mother of two and resides in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. She also writes fiction as D.M. Barr and holds leadership roles in several writer organizations. Dawn's other fiction books can be found at http://www.dmbarr.com. Excerpt from Dawn's 8/22/2022 column in InsiderTravelReport.com Thanks to a growing focus on inclusive travel, families with children with invisible disabilities such as autism spectrum disorder and mood/attention disorders are starting to travel more. That's the findings of a new study by The International Board of Credentialing and Continuing Education Standards (IBCCES), which recently updated its study of 1,000 special needs families from four years ago. The new study shows that 78 percent of special needs families surveyed are hesitant to travel. While that's still a significant percentage, it represents a 9 percent improvement from 2018. Of those, 94 percent said they would take more vacations or visit more unfamiliar destinations if they had access to autism-trained and certified options. That's a 1 percent increase over the last study. Dawn has made many appearances on other podcasts, here's a link if you would like to listen. Connect with Dawn: Website: http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/ Facebook: @TravelingDifferent Twitter: @TravelingDiff Email: dawnbarclayauthor@gmail.com As an Amazon Associate, I earn commissions from qualifying purchases. For more information about True North Disability Planning you can find us here: Web: https://truenorthdisabilityplanning.com/ Blog - https://ejorgensenwordpresscom.wordpress.com Podcast (ABC's of Disability Planning) - https://anchor.fm/abcs-disability-planning Waypoints - https://waypoints.substack.com/ Facebook: @TrueNorthDisabilityPlanning Twitter: @NeedsNavigator Resource store (free downloads too) - https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/True-North-Disability-Planning --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/abcs-disability-planning/message

The Safe Harbor podcast is a show for parents of children with disabilities and people who love them. Your host is Theresa Bartolotta. This episode features an interview with Nina and Jake Wachsman, a mother and son team who started Know Rare, a company that supports individuals with rare diseases by helping them find clinical trials.  Know Rare also provides information to support individuals and their families as they navigate the unique world of having a rare disease. Nina and Jake combined their professional talents with a personal mission to help individuals and you will find their story inspiring. The Know Rare website also has a terrific blog with stories about individual families, resources about living with a rare disease, and so much more.  We will feature Lauren Will, an amazing poet, contributor to Know Rare, and mom to a son with a rare disease, in an upcoming episode. It is not to be missed! Here's a link to Know Rare: knowrare.org Update: Episode 8 featured an interview with Dawn Barclay, author of "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse", a really helpful book for families planning vacations with their loved ones. The book has been released as of August 15, 2022. You'll find this book to be full of great tips and resources to help your family explore the world. Here's an Amazon associate's link to purchase the book - if you use this link I get a small commission that helps defray the cost of the podcast - https://amzn.to/3R15d93 You can also find the the link to purchase the book on theresabartolotta.com under Books or Podcast, Episode 8. Follow on instagram at theresabartolotta. And send an email to  safeharborpodcast@gmail.com to get on the mailing list.Please rate and review the podcast- it helps others find us. Stay well and thanks for listening - I know your time is precious so I send my gratitude to you!

On this week's episode, Jaret & Gary are back! The guys talk about Dude Perfect and then talk to Dawn Barclay, author of the brand new book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Head to www.travelingdifferent.com for more info on Dawn and her brand new book!

On this week's episode, Jaret & Gary are back! The guys talk about Dude Perfect and then talk to Dawn Barclay, author of the brand new book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Head to www.travelingdifferent.com for more info on Dawn and her brand new book! The post Dawn Barclay (Author) appeared first on idobi.

James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report talks with Dawn Barclay, our family and special needs travel columnist, about her new book “Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.” Barclay details how important this travel market is both for travel advisors and the clients they serve—and how you can help families that have kids with autism and other needs get great experiences through travel. For more information, visit www.travelingdifferent.com.  If interested, the original video of this podcast can be found on the Insider Travel Report Youtube channel  or by searching for the podcast's title on Youtube. 

Interview with Dawn Barclay about her book Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. This is the August 6, 2022 episode

Welcome to Episode #65My Guest, Dawn BarclayDawn is a woman of many talents with a flexible mindset that always likes to try new things. She shares her passion and love for travelling, and her immense creativity for writing characters brings her to the show today. Dawn is an award-winning fiction and nonfiction author who provides professional content creation, editing, ghostwriting, and writes for special needs and family travel columns. Dawn has also travelled the world and loves to rescue dogs.She has eight books under her belt as either author or anthology editor. Her romances include The Queen of Second Chances and Simple Tryst of Fate. Her award-winning psychological thrillers include Expired Listings and Saving Grace. Dawn's upcoming book: Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse is essentially the ASD travel bible.Let's enjoy Dawn's Story.For Dawn's Books and Website:http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/http://www.travelingdifferent.comhttp://www.dmbarr.comBEHAS TEAM: behas.podcats@gmail.com - to share your story.

Biography Dawn M. Barclay has spent a career working in various aspects of journalism, starting with corporate communications work (brochures, profiles, newsletters, press releases, web content) and then branching out into magazine writing and editing. She has held senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She was the recipient of a First Prize Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for a story on travel law, and in August 2022, Rowman & Littlefield will release her non-fiction book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Essentially the ASD travel bible, the book incorporates over one hundred interviews with parents, Certified Autism Travel Professionals, mental health professionals and special needs advocates. In 2015, Dawn branched off into fiction and as of 2022, has eight books under her belt as either an author (D.M. Barr) or anthology editor. Her award-winning psychological thrillers include Expired Listings (2016) and Saving Grace: A Psychological Thriller (2018, originally published by Black Rose Writing), and her romances include The Queen of Second Chances (2020) and Simple Tryst of Fate (2020), both published through Champagne Book Group. She is the vice president of Sisters in Crime/New York-Tri-State, and the president of the Hudson Valley Romance Writers, and she edits professionally through SoulCrusherEditing.com. https://www.amazon.com/Traveling-Different-Strategies-Inflexible-Neurodiverse/dp/B09WJM45H9/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YNK0K06Y7Y6L&keywords=dawn+barclay&qid=1659403657&sprefix=dawn+barclay%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1 (Note to potential interviewers: My other persona, as D.M. Barr, is where I have most of my following for Twitter @authordmbarr and Facebook. I have conducted over 40 video interviews at www.author-groupie.com if you'd like to see me on video.) Motherhood Unfiltered: It's going to be okay! --will be offering a free masterclass, "Get out of da FuNk!" If you're interested go to my website: www.nickyasherbowling.com to sign up! It's never too late to begin a new journey in your life! I help moms move forward with confidence as they overcome the hurdles of nurturing children with mental health struggles. Advocate & Coach for mamas who have a lot on their plate. If that is you, I promise it is going to be okay. Let's connect! You can now check out my podcasts on YouTube! Please remember to rate, comment, and subscribe this helps me move up the food chain. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/itsgoingtobeokay/message

Talking dad uk the podcast where we discuss all things Dad  In this episode author Dawn M Barclay talks about her upcoming book which is due for release August 2022 - Traveling different: Vacation strategies for parents of the anxious, the inflexible, and the neurodiverse. The travel bible for parents of children with Autism spectrum disorder and / or mood and distraction disorders, offering helpful tips to soothe any child's travel anxieties.   Dawn also talks about her love for travel having grown up with her parents working in the travel industry and eventually working within it herself.  Many of the tips and strategies shared by Dawn and that the book contains are universal and can be translated into any travel situation. Links to Dawn's website and information about where to find the book below.    Talking Dad uk links - https://www.talkingdaduk.com/  Patreon link - https://www.patreon.com/join/Talkingdaduk --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawn Barclay & Links to the book -  http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/  http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/traveling-different---the-book.html          Music license info: Rock on Chicago by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4302-rock-on-chicago License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/hartzmann/sunny License code: C1EAGUQZK8GQGFOB 

Dawn M. Barclay is an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. She is releasing a book titled Traveling Different Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Tune in as she shares amazing travel tips and tools. Dawn can be reached at Traveling Different

This is a very informative episode about how to prepare and Travel with Neurodiverse children or teenagers which includes Autistic, ADHD, other mental issues or just someone who is restless about travel. I talk with Dawn Barclay who wrote the book Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. I believe these techniques can be applied to any child when going on a vacation of any kind. In this vacation season this may be something that will make your family vacation the best ever.Dawn Barclay's siteWebsite: http://www.travelingdifferent.com (contains blog updating the book, as well as buy links, information on hiringme, etc.)Twitter: www.twitter.com/@travelingdiffFacebook: www.facebook.com/travelingdifferentInstagram: www.instagram.com/traveing_differentLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dawnbarclayOTR Links:Mail OvertheRainbowbob@gmail.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving Twitter: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bownYouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5QOfficial home page: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealthCaptivate site:

 My guest this episode is Dawn Barclay.  Dawn's latest book, to be published in August by Rowman & LIttlefield, is "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.  It's basically the travel bible for those on the autism spectrum as well as those with mood/attention disorders. Anyone who has a child with such issues or knows someone who does will benefit from the advice contained in this book, plus the tips for special needs children can soothe the hiccups of any family's travel.Dawn's Links:Dawn's Book - Traveling Different http://www.dawnbarclayink.comhttp://www.travelingdifferent.comhttp://www.dmbarr.comAlso, you can get a copy of Stan's book FearLESS Parenting at: https://tinyurl.com/FearLESSly-Parenting.   Free Parental Resource From FearLESS Parenting:https://www.dropbox.com/t/IGL3ELKRb5QCOn1i 

Today's wonderful guest is Dawn M. Barclay, who is a veteran of the travel industry having served previously in the travel advisor role, and currently as a contributing editor for Insider Travel Report.  Her newest book, "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse", not only helps parents to navigate travel, but also serves as a resource chockful of strategies travel entrepreneurs can utilize at the helm of their travel businesses.In this episode, we focus on:Why travel entrepreneurs should specialize in assisting families with special needsThe challenges these families face when traveling and resources that can assistWhat travel entrepreneurs need to be mindful of when planning trips and experiences for families with special needsand so much more!Enjoy (and take action)!Stay connected with Dawn Barclay:  http://www.travelingdifferent.com/⚓⚓Please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more episodes:INCREASE THE VISIBILITY of your Business with Monthly Support:https://takethehelm.vipmembervault.com/products/courses/view/1117728Sign up for a RAPID CONSULTING Session:https://calendly.com/ritaventures/rapid-consultingFIND YOUR SECRET SAUCE and Better Articulate that in your Content:https://calendly.com/ritaventures/secret-sauceSay HI on Social:Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/takethehelmvbsInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/takethehelmvbsGroup: https://www.facebook.com/groups/529490048073622Enjoy this episode?  Buy Me a Tea to say Thank You!https://takethehelm.vipmembervault.com/products/courses/view/1134180Direct EMAIL:takethehelmva@gmail.com

Many of us are hitting the road or taking to the sky this summer for travel. If you've traveled with kids, you know that it's not easy. And if you are traveling with anxious or inflexible children, it can feel even more daunting. This is a two-part episode. First, I'm joined by award-winning Dawn Barclay, who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. Dawn is the author of the brand new book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Following my chat with Dawn, I'm hosting a Q&A section with my own travel tips for families--something I'm passionate about. Links for this Episode Dawn Barclay: Traveling Different Facebook: www.facebook.com/travelingdifferent Instagram: www.instagram.com/traveling_different SPONSORS Indeed | Sign up for Indeed for all your hiring needs. Visit Indeed.com/FAMILIES to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

 My guest this episode is Dawn Barclay.  Dawn's latest book, to be published in August by Rowman & LIttlefield, is "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.  It's basically the travel bible for those on the autism spectrum as well as those with mood/attention disorders. Anyone who has a child with such issues or knows someone who does will benefit from the advice contained in this book, plus the tips for special needs children can soothe the hiccups of any family's travel.Dawn's Links:Dawn's Book - Traveling Different http://www.dawnbarclayink.comhttp://www.travelingdifferent.comhttp://www.dmbarr.comAlso, you can get a copy of Stan's book FearLESS Parenting at: https://tinyurl.com/FearLESSly-Parenting.   Free Parental Resource From FearLESS Parenting:https://www.dropbox.com/t/IGL3ELKRb5QCOn1i 

In this episode, your host Theresa Bartolotta talks with Dawn Barclay, whose book "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse" will be released on August 15, 2022. Travel has been a huge challenge for my family in the past as it is for many families. Today you will hear my conversation with Dawn Barclay - author of an upcoming book Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Dawn is an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. She started as an agent with her parents' firms, Barclay Travel Ltd and Barclay International Group Short-Term Apartment Rentals, and then branched out into travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She is a mother of two and resides in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. This conversation is loaded with tips for families to reduce stress and engage in enjoyable enriching experiences for the whole family. Please look for Dawn's book wherever you shop for books- you can preorder now. You can find Dawn here:Dawn M. Barclay - Contributing Editor Insidertravelreport; www.travelingdifferent.com; www.dawnbarclayink.comWriting fiction as D.M. Barr www.dmbarr.comPlease join our FB group - search Safe Harbor Podcast. We've got a good discussion going on. Find me on instagram at theresabartolotta. And email me at safeharborpodcast@gmail.com I'll be reaching out with some exciting offers in the near future, so you'll want to hear what's happening!!! Please rate and review the podcast- it helps others find us. Stay well and thanks for listening - I know your time is precious so I send my gratitude to you!

Traveling with children is always challenging, but for parents of children with autism spectrum disorder and/or mood and attention and distraction disorders, it can be especially intimidating. How should parents of children experiencing meltdowns deal with clueless and judgmental onlookers? What are the best methods to alleviate motion sickness when your child might already be on a cocktail of drugs? Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse answers these and many other questions parents may have when traveling with their children. Dawn M. Barclay presents travel strategies and anecdotes from Certified Autism Travel Professionals (TM), parents of special needs children, associations and advocates, and mental health professionals, broken down by mode of transportation and type of venue. The heart of the book outlines suggested itineraries for spectrum families and venues—such as museums—that cater to the unique special interests that are characteristic of individuals with autism. Barclay also discusses less common accommodations, such as dude ranches and houseboats, as well as vacations involving sports that readers might not immediately associate with ASD, such as diving, skiing, and golf. Find more information: www.dawnbarclayink.com     _________________ email:  inclusion@autismmastermind.co https://www.autismmastermind.co/ IG, FB, YouTube @autismmastermind  Please review, subscribe and share

Dawn M. Barclay has spent a career working in various aspects of journalism, starting with corporate communications work (brochures, profiles, newsletters, press releases, web content) and then branching out into magazine writing and editing. She has held senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She was the recipient of a First Prize Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for a story on travel law, and in August 2022, Rowman & Littlefield will release her non-fiction book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Essentially the ASD travel bible, the book incorporates over one hundred interviews with parents, Certified Autism Travel Professionals, mental health professionals and special needs advocates. Episode Links:Web: http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/Book: http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/traveling-different---the-book.htmlInterview: http://www.dmbarr.com/author-groupieJoey Pinz Conversations Podcast Information: • Website: https://www.joeypinz.com • Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/joeypinz • Music by Tom Izzo: @wahlsinger  https://tomizzomusic.com  Support our podcast:  • Subscribe: https://joeypinzconversations.com/subscribe/ • How much is this podcast worth to you? Consider $5, $10 or $20/mo with Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/joeypinz  • How about a one-time payment?  • What is the episode worth to you? $25/$50/$100/$500 /$1,000/$5,000 with PayPal (one-time): https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/JoePannone Please subscribe/follow to Joey Pinz Discipline Conversations Podcast: • Spotify, Apple, Google, or others.  Please consider rating with 5 stars if you like it. • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/joey-pinz-discipline-conversations/id1583997438 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/69SFwY3XSwcw9qNvElAn10 • Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xODI4OTA2LnJzcw • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeyPinzDisciplineConversations?sub_confirmation=1Please follow on social media: @TheJoeyPinz • Instagram: @TheJoeyPinz https://www.instagram.com/TheJoeyPinz  • Twitter: @TheJoeyPinz  https://twitter.com/TheJoeyPinz • Facebook: @TheJoeyPinz https://www.facebook.com/TheJoeyPinz • TikTok:  @TheJoeyPinz  https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoeypinzFinally,  join our newsletter: https://joeypinzconversations.com/#newsletterSupport the show

Watch Here DO YOU AVOID OR DREAD TRAVELLING BECAUSE OF AN ANXIOUS, INFLEXIBLE OR NEURODIVERSE TRAVELER? On this episode we are joined by Dawn Barclay. Dawn is the author of “Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.” Dawn is the daughter of two travel agents and a life long lover of travel, when she became a mother travel changed for her and her husband, On this episode we discuss: Planning travel with Neurodiverse and Neurotypical kids in mind Choosing the right accommodations Previewing your vacation For places to listen, places to connect on social media, to be a guest, collaborate with or sponsor DTE visit: https://linktr.ee/DisruptTheEveryday Dawn's website: http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/traveling-different---the-book.html About Dawn Dawn M. Barclay has spent a career working in various aspects of journalism, starting with corporate communications work (brochures, profiles, newsletters, press releases, web content) and then branching out into magazine writing and editing. She has held senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She was the recipient of a First Prize Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for a story on travel law, and in August 2022, Rowman & Littlefield will release her non-fiction book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Essentially the ASD travel bible, the book incorporates over one hundred interviews with parents, Certified Autism Travel Professionals, mental health professionals and special needs advocates. In 2015, Dawn branched off into fiction and as of 2022, has eight books under her belt as either an author (D.M. Barr) or anthology editor. Her award-winning psychological thrillers include Expired Listings (2016) and Saving Grace: A Psychological Thriller (2018, originally published by Black Rose Writing), and her romances include The Queen of Second Chances (2020) and Simple Tryst of Fate (2020), both published through Champagne Book Group. She is the vice president of Sisters in Crime/New York-Tri-State, and the president of the Hudson Valley Romance Writers, and she edits professionally through SoulCrusherEditing.com.

Jimmy's guest is Dawn M. Barclay, author of the book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible and the Neurodiverse. Dawn is an award winning author who has spent a career in different aspects of the travel industry. This book is a common sense, knowledge packed guide for any parent who is traveling with a child whether diagnosed with Autism or not. This is a Don't miss interview! Websites from this episode: Website: http://www.travelingdifferent.comTwitter: www.twitter.com/@travelingdif Facebook: www.facebook.com/travelingdifferent Instagram: www.instagram.com/traveing_different LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dawnbarclay .  

In this week's episode, Sarah interview Dawn Barclay, the author of "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse." She discusses her book, and how it provides advice for parents who are looking to travel, vacation or just go out with neurodiverse children. Remember, We are affiliated with AngelSense. If you are looking for a GPS tracker to help with a family member who may be an elopement risk, please check out AngelSense at https://www.angelsense.com/?ref=sarahstelmachbrown

Traveling with children can be a fantastic opportunity for the whole family!  However, it is understandable how traveling can feel intimidating, especially if your child falls on the autism spectrum or has attention and/or mood disorders.    Award-winning author, Dawn M. Barclay, explains how parents can successfully incorporate travel into their families' lives. Her new book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse, will be released on August 15, 2022, but is now available for preorder.  Luckily, we have access to a preview!  Dawn shares her insight on preparing for family travel and ways to make it enjoyable for everyone.   Her book offers hundreds of tips from mental health professionals, parents, Certified Autism Travel Planners, allies, and advocates, it's basically the travel bible for families with children on the autism spectrum or who have mood/attention disorders, but the tips can soothe the travel hiccups of any family.  To learn more from Dawn and pre-order her book, visit: www.dawnbarclayink.com  www.travelingdifferent.comCheck out the mom self-love journal on Amazon.   When moms take those few minutes each day to practice self-love, it allows us to love others at our best.   Getting to Know You: The Family Journal and Game to learn more about your family and record the fun memories.  Now available on Amazon!  A Day In The Life Of A Stay-At-Home Mom journal provides 2 pages for each day.  Completing the reverse to-do list is the perfect reminder of all you accomplish in a single day. Most importantly, it will reflect the unmeasurable value you bring to your family.Mom Treading Water (The Imperfect Mom) is available on all podcast apps or right here! Subscribe to Mom Treading Water's weekly newsletter! https://www.momtreadingwater.com Please join our Facebook Group, Mom Treading Water: https://www.facebook.com/groups/490411995647295/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QJgpKp6z0U&t=51sTikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd3dbnxT/Instagram: @imperfectmomtreadingwater Thank you for supporting the growth of Mom Treading Water!

In this week's episode, Sarah interview Dawn Barclay, the author of "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse." She discusses her book, and how it provides advice for parents who are looking to travel, vacation or just go out with neurodiverse children. Remember, We are affiliated with AngelSense. If you are looking for a GPS tracker to help with a family member who may be an elopement risk, please check out AngelSense at https://www.angelsense.com/?ref=sarahstelmachbrown

Vacation time is right around the corner. For so many families, that could mean freakouts from little ones messing up routines. Children on the autism spectrum are the most affected when it comes to not having their routines.    It's estimated that one out of every 44 children falls on the autism spectrum which means that many of your listeners are likely affected. Not to mention those who have children with attention and/or mood disorders. Up to now, no one has really explained how these parents can successfully incorporate travel into their families' lives. Finally, someone has. Dawn Barclay's new book,  Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse is set to release on August 15th. Aside from her being our first female guest, Dawn has been in the travel business for decades, both as an award-winning travel reporter and with her family's travel businesses. She is also an author of many fiction novels, writing as D.M. Barr.   In the book, Dawn goes over so many aspects of traveling with children who may be on the spectrum and how you can make it as easy as possible to have an amazing family vacation!   In this episode, we touch on How Dawn came up with the idea for the book, some pieces you can use today to get your child ready for a trip, Dave's experience taking his child on their first family trip (and how much of a hassle that was).    This book is not just for parents who have children on the spectrum. This is a must read for any parent who wants to travel, but they aren't quite sure they can.   Be sure to pre-order your copy of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse on Amazon, your local bookstore, and even ask your public library if they can carry it for those parents who may not be able to purchase the book before August 15th. You can learn more about Dawn and the book at http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/traveling-different---the-book.html and http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/   You can preorder your copy at https://www.amazon.com/Traveling-Different-Strategies-Inflexible-Neurodiverse/dp/1538168669

In August 2022, Rowman & Littlefield will release her non-fiction book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Essentially the ASD travel bible, the book incorporates over one hundred interviews with parents, Certified Autism Travel Professionals, mental health professionals and special needs advocates. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/itsgoingtobeokay/message

Team, You listen to this podcast because your life is impacted by executive function needs. And, while many of our examples are for studenting, we also know that executive function needs show up...everywhere! Even on vacations! On today's show, we talk with author and travel expert Dawn Barclay, whose book, Traveling Different, will empower you to travel stress-free this summer! Her hope is to "open up the world" for families, and the tips she shares here (and in her book) will do just that! Preorder the book: http://www.travelingdifferent.com About our guest: Dawn M. Barclay is an award-winning author who has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry. She started as an agent with her parents' firms, Barclay Travel Ltd and Barclay International Group Short-Term Apartment Rentals, and then branched out into travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She is a mother of two and resides in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse Publication Date: August 15, 2022 • ISBN: 978-1-5381-6866-0 • $32.00, Hardback • 344 pages

Joining us for this episode is travel expert Dawn M. Barclay, author of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Dawn M. Barclay has spent a career working in different aspects of the travel industry, starting as an agent with her parents' firms, Barclay Travel Ltd and Barclay International Group Short-Term Apartment Rentals, and then branching out into travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life,Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. She is a mother of two and resides in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. She also writes fiction as D.M. Barr and holds leadership roles in several writer organizations. www.dawnbarclayink.com https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538168660/Traveling-Different-Vacation-Strategies-for-Parents-of-the-Anxious-the-Inflexible-and-the-Neurodiverse Contributing Editor InsiderTravelReport: www.travelingdifferent.com Writing fiction as D. M. Barr: www.dmbarr.com

In this episode of Mother's Guide Through Autism, I talk to Dawn Barclay, an award-winning author who has spent a 30+ year career working in the travel industry, about traveling strategies for kids on the spectrum. Dawn wrote her upcoming book Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse because she understood how difficult it was for parents to travel with kids, especially kids with special needs, and there was no guidebook to help them with it. She says that in one study done by IBCCES, where 1,000 special needs parents were interviewed, they found that 87% of them didn't travel and of those, 93% would've if they knew where to go and what to do.Dawn believes that children deserve to be global citizens and they deserve to see a world outside of their own, and she wants to open up the world for people by giving them the tips and strategies offered in her book. She shares the number one reason parents with special needs kids don't travel and what they can do to make their trips possible and successful.Enjoy this episode!Dawn's websites:http://www.dawnbarclayink.com  http://www.travelingdifferent.comFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/TravelingDifferentTwitter:https://twitter.com/travelingdiffInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/traveling_differentSign up to get news and updates from me: https://www.mothersguidethroughautism.com

Today we talk with Dawn Barclay, author of the book, Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. We talk all things travel and how to plan with your kids.   Check out Dawn's links:   http://www.travelingdifferent.com (includes buying links as well as the blog that backs up the book)  http://www.twitter.com/@travelingdiff  http://www.facebook.com/travelingdifferent  https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnbarclay/  http://www.dmbarr.com  MomTalks with Christa and Mommy Knows Best are committed to providing informational, motivational, and inspiring videos to all moms. Statements in this video are for informational purposes only and are not to be taken as medical advice or recommendation. Any health concern or condition should be brought to the attention of your doctor.   Mommy Knows Best YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/Mommyknowsbest   Join our Private Facebook Group: New Moms - Breastfeeding & More Support Group by Mommy Knows Best: https://bit.ly/3gQIF9z   This episode was sponsored by Mommy Knows Best. Mommy Knows Best is a brand dedicated to empowering all moms on their journey with support, tips, and products to help boost their milk supply.   Visit Mommy Knows Best at www.mommyknowsbest.com or follow us on Instagram @mommyknowsbest   

Dawn Barclay gives us beginning tips on traveling with neurodiverse individuals. We LOVE this topic because we believe these strategies can apply to any family! Learn more about her upcoming book here:  https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538168660/Traveling-Different-Vacation-Strategies-for-Parents-of-the-Anxious-the-Inflexible-and-the-Neurodiverse  To learn more about the Pinwheel Phone (#af), click here: https://www.pinwheel.com/?via=kate We are so glad you're here! At Be a Problem Solver Services, our goal is to help parents raise decent humans in a digital world. Need more help addressing social media use, teenage transitions, or essential workplace skills with your child? Check out our online services here: www.beaproblemsolverservices.com Be a Problem Solver Services are Kate (M.Ed., CCC-SLP) and Cory (Ph.D., LCMHC, NCC) - a wife speech pathologist and husband mental mental health counselor who focus on bringing you information about social skill development and character building. We both practice independently, and then come together to collaborate on important social skills issues that we hear from our clients over and over again!

 Annette Hines, host of Parenting Impossible – The Special Needs Survival Podcast tackles the world of travel for families with kids with Autism as well as other special needs. Dawn Barclay, book author and writer of travel, shares with us her new book, Traveling Different -Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse. Dawn makes traveling more possible with this encouraging book and the wonderful tips she gives in this episode. Be a more confident parent by following her thoughtfully researched strategies and resources. Predictability is key in setting up a stress-free trip for you and your children. Dawn Barclay suggests introducing the concept of travel by starting small and local, along with an overnight at a friend or relative's house. Think through each activity's pacing and preparedness. Use programs like Wings for Autism, TSA Cares and Certified Autism Travel Professionals to help you plan a predictable trip. Dawn talks about so much more including the 16 questions you should ask cruises and tours about how autism friendly they are. Join us to learn how to plan your families upcoming summer vacation! Click on the book title to pre-order her book, Traveling Different - Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse.  We would love to hear what you think about this episode. Please leave a comment! Dawn Barclay is an award-winning author with 30 years of working in the travel industry. She worked for her parent's firm, Barclay Travel Ltd and then began travel trade reporting with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report and recently Travel Report. She also writes fiction as D.M. Barr. She is available for speaking engagements and loves to hear from her readers at dawnbarclayauthor@gmail.com. To pre-order her book Traveling Different - Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse, click on the title of the book. 

Join my new community and discuss this and other episodes of The Autism Dad Podcast with others. It's totally free, and I'd love your feedback. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Autism_Dad_Pod/ (Join Now.) My guest today is Dawn Barclay, and she's here to share tips and tricks to make traveling with our autistic kids safe, fun, and enjoyable. She wrote a new book called Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse (will release Aug 15th). Dawn and I have a conversation about some common challenges families face when trying to travel with their autistic, anxious, or otherwise neurodiverse child. She provides no-nonsense solutions, ideas, and advice to help make travel a rewarding experience for the whole family. She also talks about how to evaluate hotels, theme parks, and other places prior to arrival. This is a great episode, especially as we get into the summer months. Check out Dawn's information below to learn more and pre-order the book. Dawn M. Barclay Dawn M. Barclay is an award-winning author who has spent a 30+ year career working in different aspects of the travel industry. After attending Tufts University, she worked in sales, marketing, and management for her parents' firms, Barclay Travel Ltd. and Barclay International Group Short Term Apartment and Villa Rentals. Next, she branched out into travel trade reporting, with senior or contributing editor positions at Travel Agent Magazine, Travel Life, Travel Market Report, and most recently, Insider Travel Report. Dawn holds degrees in psychology and marketing, is a mother of two, and lives in New York's scenic Hudson Valley. She also writes fiction as D.M. Barr and holds leadership roles in several writer organizations. http://www.dawnbarclayink.com/ (http://www.dawnbarclayink.com)   Pre-Order her book on https://amzn.to/3sEl1o1 (Amazon). Find me at theautismdad.com Join my new community and discuss this and other episodes of The Autism Dad Podcast with others. It's totally free, and I'd love your feedback. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Autism_Dad_Pod/ (Join Now.) Mentioned in this episode: Just two Dads Podcast Shawn Francis and Brian Altounian host "Just two Dads." A weekly conversation with two dads about raising children with special needs. Listen, every Wednesday at 12PM PST. Find them on Facebook and anywhere you get your podcasts. https://theautismdad.captivate.fm/justtwodads (Just two Dads Podcast) Learn More About Mightier Mightier is a clinically proven mobile gaming app that was developed at Boston Children's Hospital. It's already helped more than 100,000 kids, including my crew here at home. Kids play on a tablet or a phone while wearing a heart rate monitor. And Mightier incorporates breathing exercises and other calming techniques as part of the game. Kids get to see when it's time to cool down and learn how to do it themselves. And parents get to track their progress. Visit mightier.com and use the promo code "theautismdad22" at checkout to save 10%. https://theautismdad.captivate.fm/mightier (Visit Mightier)

Pre-Order on Amazon   Anne Zachry 00:00 Welcome to Making Special Education Actually Work, an online publication presented in blog and podcast form by KPS4Parents. As an added benefit to our subscribers and visitors to our site, we're making podcast versions of our text only blog articles so that you can get the information you need on the go by downloading and listening at your convenience. We also occasionally conduct discussions with guest speakers via our podcast and transcribe the audio into text for our followers who prefer to read the content on our blog. Where the use of visual aids, legal citations, and references to other websites are used to better illustrate our points and help you understand the information, these tools appear in the text only portion of the blog post of which this podcast is a part. You will hear a distinctive sound [bell sound] during this podcast whenever references made to content that includes a link to another article, website, or download. Please refer back to the original blog article to access these resources. Today is April 28 2022. This post/podcast is titled, "Interview of Dawn Barclay, author of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible and the Neurodiverse." In this podcast, which was originally recorded on April 1 2022, Dawn and I discuss her book and the challenges that children with various special needs can experience when it comes to going places in the community, including travel and vacations.   Anne Zachry 01:28 Thank you so much for doing this with me. So, you know, just to get started, if you could just introduce yourself, and then tell us about the book you've written and more or less the core issue that you were trying to tackle with it.   Dawn Barclay 01:40 Okay, terrific. So my name is Dawn Barkley and I have written a book called Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible and the Neurodiverse. I have been a travel writer for the past 30-some years. I specialized in travel trade writing. And when I needed a book like this back in around 2008-2009, there wasn't a book like this. So I wanted to write a book that would help the parents of children on the autism spectrum, as well as with mood and attention disorders. What I what I found was that the tips would help in a neurotypical family, as well. Anne Zachry 02:31 That stands to reason. I mean, that's one of the things that research bears out, that when we start creating accommodations for people with special needs, that it turns out that it benefits everybody. I mean, look how people are now using text-to-speech to text when they send their text messages, right, you know, and that was started out as an accommodation. And now just people do it because it's a convenience. And so it just becomes adopted as, "Well, of course. Why wouldn't you use a calculator?" And so that totally makes sense that you would find overlap there that, you know. When you're having to think very deliberately for someone who needs that level of deliberate thought in order to simply access the situation that, you know, it's also going to benefit other people. So that's an interesting finding that you've made.   Dawn Barclay 03:16 Well, I think it stands to reason also that when a child is taken out of their comfort zone, they can be anxious or inflexible, you know, everybody is a little out of it when they are out of their comfort zone. And children haven't experienced those transitions as much as adults ...   Anne Zachry 03:32 True.   Dawn Barclay 03:33 ... they really need ... It's great when people take the time to really explain to a child what's going to happen on a trip, or get them involved in the planning of a trip. So they have a vested interest in being successful. So little things that you can do like showing videos to a kid before they travel, so they know where they're going. It's not all super exciting ...   Anne Zachry 03:54 No, it's all it's all common sense stuff. But it's you know, when we're talking about our special needs kids, these are things we would write it into, like, into an IEP, an accommodation for priming or front-loading, you know ...   Dawn Barclay 04:06 Right.   Anne Zachry 04:06 ... to warn them of transitions ahead of time, to give them a visual schedule so that the ...   Dawn Barclay 04:11 Right.   Anne Zachry 04:11 ... daily routine is predictable. And you know, and it really goes to ... you're right, it's a fundamental human thing, that anxiety is about lack of predictability.   Dawn Barclay 04:20 Yes.   Anne Zachry 04:20 And when you don't know what is coming next, it makes you anxious. And so you know, we all have our ways of dealing with that. And when you're talking about kids, they haven't necessarily develop the repertoire of skills ...   Dawn Barclay 04:34 Right.   Anne Zachry 04:34 ... and certainly as you were talking about a kid with special needs, the speed with which they're acquiring coping skills may not be as quickly as, you know, typically developing kids who may pick them up through observation, whereas some of our kids may need to be explicitly taught.   Dawn Barclay 04:48 Yeah, you're totally on target. And that's what I found. And that's what a lot of the advice revolved around is how to prep the child for each different type of trip. Whether depending on mode of transportation, or whether it evolved through restaurant or camping, or going to a hotel versus a vacation rental, any type of situation they might be put into, "How can we prepare?" and, "How can we smooth the way?"   Anne Zachry 05:16 Yeah, so that you know what to expect, and you're not worried or freaked out and anxious. That totally makes sense. And yeah, and it goes to ecological control, too. And you said something interesting in your email to me when we were setting all of this up about how some kids may need to start small. And maybe it's not even like an overnight trip anywhere, it's like going to a garage sale, or, you know, just going through a novel environment of any kind. And just, it's a skill that needs to be generalized. And so what ...   Dawn Barclay 05:45 Yes.   Anne Zachry 05:46 ... what was, what were your findings with regard to scaling and in scaffolding the complexity of the outings?   Dawn Barclay 05:54 Well, I have devoted a whole chapter to starting small, because I think it's vital to preview what the trip is going to be like, before you actually do it. And you've got a lot of time and money and energy invested in it. And so a lot of it involved social stories, which I would imagine that ...   Anne Zachry 06:13 Yeah.   Dawn Barclay 06:13 ... you're familiar with.   Anne Zachry 06:15 Yep.   Dawn Barclay 06:16 And also videos. But even before all of that, to do something small, like you said, like maybe if you're planning a trip to Italy, you would have some Italian food and talk about currency, or maybe introduce some Italian words, and just try to teach children that there is life that out there that's different than the way they experience it, and just make it fun for them. But also, like you said, like a garage sale, or a trip to the post office, any trip, you can take a child on can be a learning experience, if you couch it that way.   Anne Zachry 06:55 Right.   Dawn Barclay 06:55 I mean, I take them to a bakery that specializes perhaps in you know, like an Italian bakery or German bakery. And there are things that they're not familiar with and little by little get them excited about maybe trying something new. Local festivals in your town might be a good short trip, or a zoo, or an aquarium. Any of those can start the child getting used to something that will involve maybe a tour later on, on a vacation. And you can always refer back and say, "Oh, remember when we went on that tour to the aquarium? You've sort of experienced that."   Anne Zachry 07:32 You can even create a social story about outings in general based on past experiences on a smaller scale like that, and take photos and then, "Okay, well, when we go on the big trip, we're gonna go to other places where we take a tour. You remember the rules for tours, right?" And ...   Dawn Barclay 07:48 Right.   Anne Zachry 07:49 ... and whip out that social story with pictures of them having successfully done it before, and it just reinforces "Oh, I can handle this." So I think that's really smart. Well, that's really clever stuff. Well, so can people ... where can people get the book? Is it on Amazon or other places? Where are you selling it?   Dawn Barclay 08:06 Right now it's on pre-order. It's coming out August 15. But it is on pre-order on Amazon, on the Rowman and Littlefield website, on almost any online retailer. And we're hoping that we'll be in libraries as well. Right now you can preorder in hardcover, or in audiobook.   Anne Zachry 08:27 Okay.   Dawn Barclay 08:27 The ... that ... you can't preorder the digital the ebook yet.   Anne Zachry 08:31 Got it. Okay. That's good to know. Well, we do have our own online store of books, that is really just Amazon, that we use for fundraising for our nonprofit organization and to put useful tools in the hands of the families we serve. And so if you're listed on Amazon, that's easy enough for me to just, you know, include you in there so folks can pre-order, so I'll be sure to do that. And then, yeah, and then we'll have a link for that to the post as well, so that people can just click right on over. In your situation, what you're doing is so elegantly simple. And so, you know, most brilliant things are. Because you're just ... you're whittling it down and distilling it down to, you know, you don't need to overcomplicate this. That's what freaking everybody out is it's overcomplicated in their mind, and it's too chaotic, and you're just, like, bringing it down to a succinct, "No, here's what's going on. Here's the predictable thing that you can expect." And you're taking something that's unpredictable and turning it something ... into something predictable and more easily managed emotionally for ...   Dawn Barclay 09:31 Yes.   Anne Zachry 09:32 ... for people who struggle with lack of predictability for, you know, for whatever reasons, which we all do to one extent or another. But I think that there's very definitely ... I know for my families that have to struggle every summer with, "Do we accept the offer of extended school year services from the school district, or do we send our kid to some kind of camp where they could potentially get more, or do we do a family vacation?" and, you know, "What if we want to do all three? And how do we schedule all of that?" And I think that your, you know, your bottom line point that as long as you're -predicting and you're front-loading and you're priming. And you're thinking deliberately about how you're going to pace everything that it can be done. And very often, you'll have kids who do extended school year to work on things like social skills, or their ...   Dawn Barclay 10:21 Yes.   Anne Zachry 10:21 ... you know, their communication and their behavior. Well, they can also work on those same things if they're in a national park, you know, listening to the park ranger explain how, you know, what to do if you see a bear.   Dawn Barclay 10:35 True, and there are special passes for those with invisible disabilities for national parks.   Anne Zachry 10:41 Yes, there are.   Dawn Barclay 10:42 I talk about how you get that, and I talk about camping as well. If you want to take a small trip that might start with an overnight in your backyard, just so you can test what camping is like ...   Anne Zachry 10:52 Exactly.   Dawn Barclay 10:53 ... and then how to gauge ... how to evaluate a campground ahead of time to make sure it's going to work for you. There's a checklist for that. There are checklists for if you're going to rent a vacation rental, things you should look for.   Anne Zachry 11:06 Oh, that's so huge.   Dawn Barclay 11:08 Yeah. And when you talk about hotels, another tip for starting small is maybe just spending a night at a friend's house with a guestroom ...   Anne Zachry 11:17 Yeah.   Dawn Barclay 11:18 ... the child can get used to just staying in a different location and sleeping, to see how they adapt to that.   Anne Zachry 11:25 That makes a lot of sense, that makes a ... totally makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, it's the baby steps sometimes before you take the large leap.   Dawn Barclay 11:33 Yes.   Anne Zachry 11:33 And, yeah, and it's scaffolding, I mean, when you're when you're talking about instruction, when you've got a child whose functioning below grade level, you just don't hit them full force with the grade level content. You back up a little bit, and you teach the prerequisite skills that they need to master that might be at a lower level. But if you don't know that, the bigger thing is not going to make any sense, you know?   Dawn Barclay 11:55 Sure. Of course.   Anne Zachry 11:56 And so it's you have to take those baby steps and work someone incrementally towards their comfort level, and where they're at a place where they can master something new. And that's really what, you know, it's the same concept just applied to, you know, the real life situation of just going out in the world and participating. And, you know, it's not really about the academics per se, but the concept still applies to learning how to access the world around you. So I think that's, you know, obviously, it's a very transferable concept. And you've ... it sounds like you're applying it in a really smart way. I'm excited to see your book now that you've told me all these awesome things and planning the things that are in it, because I'm telling you, I have families who are like, "We don't know what we're going to do this summer." And a lot of families who are just like, "We're just not going to do anything, because it's too hard to figure it all out." But if there's something ...   Dawn Barclay 11:56 That's so true.   Anne Zachry 11:57 ... yeah, there's something they can use that will help ... because I think for a lot of moms in particular, it tends to be the case that moms are the ones saddled with the planning ...   Dawn Barclay 12:53 Yeah.   Anne Zachry 12:53 ... and the logistics, and getting everything together and organizing everything. And just the thought, I mean, I can feel my own heart palpitating. You know, I remember doing Girl Scout events and having to get all those things together. And I know what kind of anxiety is around being the planner.   Dawn Barclay 13:09 There's been a study where they interviewed 1000 families and, of the ones with special needs, 93% didn't travel but said that they would if they knew where to go and how to handle it.   Anne Zachry 13:21 Exactly. No, that totally makes sense. Well, I think, you know, this is a huge service for the community of families that we serve, this is definitely information that families need. So I'm excited to share it all out and see what the response is to it once it comes out. I mean that right now it's preorder so no one's it's not available for review at the moment. But it'll be exciting to see what people say once they've gotten a chance to look at it. How have the preorders been going? What kind of feedback have you been getting from people now that you're going around promoting it?   Dawn Barclay 13:51 Well, I don't get to see the preorder numbers. However, we did send it to some people ... early endorsements for the back cover. And I was very, very happy with what people had to say, especially people who had written books about autism, and they were very positive about it. So that made me feel good, because the only people who had really read it before that was my agent and my publisher ...   Anne Zachry 14:14 Right, on.   Dawn Barclay 14:15 ... you know, I really hadn't heard from the community. And when I heard from them, and they felt that this was a very helpful book that made me feel great, because if I get a letter from someone in the future, who's read this book and said, you know, "Because of what you wrote, we traveled and thank you because you opened up the world to us," that will have made it all worthwhile for me.   Anne Zachry 14:36 I totally understand that. I mean, that's as advocates, that's what we're doing is, we're in the business of opening doors for people who otherwise they wouldn't open for, and it is. It's incredibly gratifying to realize that, you know, even if it's something simple, but certainly when you put forth this kind of effort to know that other people are benefiting from it. Yeah, it's very ... it's just, you know, you're reason to get up in the morning. I get it, I totally get it.   Dawn Barclay 15:04 It's true, and there's so many people out there who don't know what the resources are, like there are certified autism travel professionals out there who have dedicated themselves to being able to plan trips for families ...   Anne Zachry 15:17 Holy Moly!   Dawn Barclay 15:17 ... on the spectrum, and there are different certification companies like IBCCES, and that stands for the International Board of Credentialing and Continuing Education Standards.   Anne Zachry 15:31 Right.   Dawn Barclay 15:31 ... IBCCES, they created the Certified Autism Centers, and they go around certifying and training different venues to know how to work with the autistic population. And that's so important, because then you have certain resorts who have dedicated themselves to training their staff to helping.   Anne Zachry 15:50 That is so cool. Well, it's interesting now that you're saying all of that, because separate from the work that we do through our advocacy organization, I also have a separate program that I created that we operate, called the Learn & Grow Educational Series, which is part of the ecotourism circuit, and we address food security and sustainable living instruction through project-based learning and modeling. So online and in-person teaching, and we've actually got a teaching garden in a space that we use to do that kind of instruction. And that's something that actually I'd be interested in doing is getting us certified that way, because I've already got the master's degree in educational psychology, I already serve people on the spectrum every day, I understand how to apply the science but having a certification that says, "Yes, Anne knows what she's doing," I can see the value in that as well. So that's really interesting.   Dawn Barclay 16:42 Yeah, I can certainly tell you who to speak to, because not only does IBCCES do it, sorry, I'm tripping over myself ...   Anne Zachry 16:50 No worries.   Dawn Barclay 16:51 ... there are other organizations that are also starting to certify, like the Champion Autism Network, there's Culture City, there's Sensory City, just a number of people who are taking up the cause. But of all of them, I believe IBCCES has been around the longest, and they have done the most work for the certifying ...   Anne Zachry 17:10 Right.   Dawn Barclay 17:10 ... if you go to autismtravel.com, you can download their most recent list their catalogue of different locations. And what I have done is combined a lot of what they've done with other autism friendly resorts and attractions. And you have to be very careful whether it's certified or autism-friendly, because these things always change ...   Anne Zachry 17:34 Right.   Dawn Barclay 17:34 Certifications change. In fact, the new catalog just came out in there are some that are not in my book. And that drives me crazy. So I'll be running the Traveling Different blog that will update my book. That's the only way I can live with myself.   Anne Zachry 17:50 I totally get it. Yeah, because once it's printed, you're like, "Oh!" and then things change.   Dawn Barclay 17:56 "Ahh! I don't have that one." But what's also important is, and I mentioned that several times in the book is if you see something that says "autism-friendly," you have to do your due diligence. You have to call them or write to them and find out exactly what that means. What is their training entail? What have they actually done? Because it means different things to different suppliers, and it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be right for you. And also then you might be autism-friendly on the weekend, or on certain days in the month. That doesn't mean that they're always gonna have like autism-friendly days or low-sensory days at a museum every day.   Anne Zachry 18:33 Right.   Dawn Barclay 18:34 It might be one Saturday, a month. You have to be careful.   Anne Zachry 18:36 Right. No. And I know that in the greater Los Angeles area, and that the museums and the different aquariums and things that they'll have those types of events, but you're right, it's scheduled. And it's only like once a quarter or once ... Yeah, so you have to, it's not like they're just going to accommodate you like that on the fly necessarily. So ...   Dawn Barclay 18:37 Right, you have to make sure that it's going to happen while you're there. What I've also done in the book that I think it was very important I thought for me is I think most people with children on the spectrum know that they can obsess about a specific topic for up to 16 hours a day. It's their life.   Anne Zachry 19:13 Yep.   Dawn Barclay 19:13 So what I've included is a whole list of museums for special interests that are not necessarily autism-friendly, but they're going to be autism-friendly for your child because your child is going to be so thrilled to be there, that it might help overcome other obstacles ...   Anne Zachry 19:29 Yeah.   Dawn Barclay 19:29 ... like flourescent lighting or other sensory issues because I think there'll be so excited that here ... like I talked about one child that was ... I don't know if they were in Montana or somewhere in that area ... and there was a mustard Museum, and the kid was crazy about mustard and only talks about his how his parents took him to this museum. So museums all over the country. So say you happen to be going to Cleveland and your child is interested in something you know some oddball ...   Anne Zachry 19:58 Yeah, area of interest. Yeah.   Dawn Barclay 20:01 ... and that would turn the whole business trip into a really memorable trip for your child because you engaged in their interests. And the trip has to be child-centric. And once you get, you know, that idea that we're going to build it around the child, I think everything starts to fall into place. So I do include a very large chapter about that, as well as ways to find other museums.   Anne Zachry 20:23 That is so cool, this is really interesting, I'm really looking forward to seeing the book when it comes out. Thank you so so much for tackling this, because you're right, this is ... this has been an area sore need for a long time. And you do have to have that blended knowledge of the travel industry and be a travel insider to be able to speak to what all these different places can do and what your options are, and how you go about asking for those kinds of things. But you have to understand what the needs are in the first place to know that you need to ask, and so, you know, you're in this nexus between the travel industry and the disability community, you know, making those connections between where the needs of one overlap with the abilities of the other to serve. And ...   Dawn Barclay 21:11 Well, and it does take a village right?   Anne Zachry 21:11 So, but you know, it also takes somebody to be that person who ties it all together and, you know, puts it down in writing for everybody to use in the, you know, your role is very significant in that because even though all of these people may have possessed all of this disparate knowledge, it needed to be distilled down into something that the lay public could access and make use of, and that's where you basically act as a scribe and made that happen. So I think that that's a gift to be able to take what you already know, and connect with the ... with people who are going through these unique circumstances, and be able to create a tool like this. So this was really exciting stuff. Thank you so much for doing the work.   Dawn Barclay 21:11 And I thank goodness for the people who contributed to this book, because this isn't my story, this is the culmination of over 100 interviews with parents, with certified autism travel professionals, with health professionals like Tony Atwood and Dr. Ellen Lippmann, and different organizations, and different advocates and allies, and all of them taught me so much. And that's what ... I couldn't have written the book without them.   Anne Zachry 21:39 Thank you.   Dawn Barclay 21:39 I learned so much. I mean, I would have never known that there were therapeutic aspects to diving vacations, or to golf vacations, or to skiing, and there's so much out there for this population now, because everybody is trying to be so much more inclusive than they were before.   Anne Zachry 22:35 Right.   Dawn Barclay 22:35 So it's just fascinating that you can go to a dude ranch, and there are ones that will cater to your child, or you can go to rent a house boat, we should really know the safety measures that are involved in that or if you want to rent a yacht, because, you know, if you rent a private boat, you certainly have enough room to bring along friends or family that can help take care of the child. So it's not only on the parents.   Anne Zachry 23:01 Right, no that's a really good point, too.   Dawn Barclay 23:04 ... all kind of gels together.   Anne Zachry 23:06 That's really interesting. Now, I will say that a lot of our families are not going to be renting yachts anytime soon. I mean, a lot of folks, you know, what isn't appreciated very often is the added expense that comes along with parenting a child with special needs, and that, you know, even a middle class family can find themselves struggling just because of those added expenses. So I think that the ... you also, you know, talking about these other options, and that where you start small at a more local level, still builds the skills and still gives them that exposure, even if you know, we're not going to go to Europe this summer, but we're you know, maybe we're gonna go, you know, we're going to drive for six hours and go stay with aunts and uncles in another part of the state, you know, and, and so whatever the scale of it is, really, it comes down to the experience for the child and the predictability of it. And having your ducks in a row in terms of, like you said, planning it and making a child-centric plan about how you're going to handle your trips, which I think is really smart. I mean, it's not about saying that any one person is more important than everybody else; it's just saying that this person's needs are going to be the most demanding ones we need to accommodate, and at minimum, we need to make sure we take care of x, y and z. And then we can take care of everything else around that and you know, you get those those the hardest things you're going to have to accommodate out of the way and then everything else is easy going forward. So ...   Dawn Barclay 24:32 Right, and I agree with you, not everybody can afford a yacht. I certainly can't. I do spend a lot of time talking about car travel, bus travel. I talked about how the Autism on the Seas Company has a scholarship or a grant for people who can't afford to sail on their own ...   Anne Zachry 24:51 Right on!   Dawn Barclay 24:51 ... if they want to take advantage of an autism cruise. I do talk about how to handle restaurants and how to do camping, so I do include all that information and I'd like to think that this book can help people from, you know ...   Anne Zachry 25:05 From across ...yeah, across the socio-economic spectrum.   Dawn Barclay 25:08 Yes.   Anne Zachry 25:08 Yeah, because you were talking about camping and things like that. And I'm thinking to like, even if you do make it to Europe, maybe you're not going to rent a car, you're going to be using public transportation.   Dawn Barclay 25:17 Right.   Anne Zachry 25:18 And you know, and you're gonna be using a Europass, or whatever. And so, yeah, so there's a lot of things that have to be factored in. And everybody's situation is unique. And yet there's these things in common that, you know, these unifying factors that if you just attend to these details, then all of the things that are unique, will still be manageable. So ...   Dawn Barclay 25:39 And also, like, how to keep safe, how to make sure you don't lose your child, and safety measures to take. All information like that. That's so important to have.   Anne Zachry 25:47 That's so huge. Absolutely. My goodness! Well, this was just a very enlightening conversation. I really appreciate you sharing all of this with me. I'm looking forward to sharing your information with everybody and hearing what they have to say about it.   Dawn Barclay 26:01 Absolutely. My pleasure. Thank you so much.   Anne Zachry 26:03 You're so welcome.   Anne Zachry 26:04 Thank you for listening to the podcast version of interview of Dawn Barclay, author of Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible and the Neurodiverse. KPS4Parents reminds its listeners that knowledge powers solutions for parents and all eligible children, regardless of disability, are entitled to a free and appropriate public education. 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This week I have the pleasure of talking to author Dawn M Barclay. She's the author of a book called; "Traveling Different: Vacation Strategies for Parents of the Anxious, the Inflexible, and the Neurodiverse." It's basically the travel bible for those on the autism spectrum as well as those with mood/attention disorders. Anyone who has a child with such issues or knows someone who does will benefit from the advice contained in this book, plus the tips for special needs children can soothe the hiccups of any family's travel.In a fascinating conversation she basically takes us through the preparation stage of a trip through the trip and then we talk a bit about the return home.She talks us through how to best prepare your child for traveling and a new routine/change in environment.Then we talk about the type of trip that works best for neurodivergent children, things to take into account when booking your trip/places to stay.She gives soo many tips that I couldn't possibly list them all here. All to make the trip as stress free for both you and your kid.It's a wonderfully educational conversation with someone who clearly knows what they're talking about.You can find Dawn, and her book.On her website On FacebookOf course, as we mentioned, you can pre-order the book everywhere and I'll remind you again when it comes out early August."In the news this week" This study, published in the New England journal of Medicine that finds no benefits to intermittent fasting compared to any other form of diet, at least when it comes to weightloss.Remember to follow us on Instagram and Facebook for the competitions, wisdom and cute videos. And, of course, you can always find us on our YouTube channel if you like your podcast in video form with little pictures :) Visit healthypostnatalbody.com and get 3 months completely FREE access. No sales, no commitment, no BS. Email peter@healthypostnatalbody.com if you have any questions or comments Playing us out this week;  That kind of night by Dub-C