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We assist in providing eyecare professionals with the latest in optometric industry news, eyewear trends and discussions of the hottest topics in the eyecare profession. Welcome to the Defocus Media Podcast Channel.

Defocus Media

Durham, North Carolina


    • Oct 1, 2026 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 46m AVG DURATION
    • 514 EPISODES

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    The Defocus Media podcast is an exceptional resource for anyone in the healthcare field, specifically eyecare. Hosted by Dr. Lyerly and Dr. Glover, this podcast covers a wide range of topics in medicine and wellness with expert guests providing invaluable advice and information. Whether you're on a walk or commuting in your car, listening to this podcast is a great way to stay connected to optometry.

    One of the best aspects of The Defocus Media podcast is the insightful and inspirational content it provides. The hosts and guests offer original perspectives and tackle hot topics in eyecare, keeping listeners up to date on current trends and advancements. The dynamic conversations between the hosts and their highly skilled interviewing techniques make for engaging episodes that are both informative and enjoyable to listen to.

    Another standout feature of this podcast is its variety of content. From the R&K Lunch Date series to the Dry Eye Divas, there is something for everyone interested in eyecare. The hosts have done a great job of creating a well-rounded podcast that covers a range of subjects within the field.

    While it's hard to find any negative aspects about The Defocus Media podcast, one potential downside could be that it may not appeal to those outside of the healthcare industry or with no interest in eyecare specifically. However, for those within the field or looking to learn more about optometry, this podcast is an invaluable resource.

    In conclusion, The Defocus Media podcast is a must-follow and subscribe for anyone interested in staying up to date on hot topics in eyecare. With its insightful content, engaging conversations, and variety of topics covered, this podcast is a valuable addition to anyone's podcast rotation. Drs Lyerly and Glover have created an exceptional platform for education and growth within the optometry community, making this podcast a true gem for those in the industry.



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    Latest episodes from Defocus Media

    Buddy Movie Review: Dark Comedy and the Eye Care Behind the Horror

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2026 45:51


    What happens when a beloved children's television mascot becomes a ruthless killer? In this episode of the OD'ing on Movies Podcast, Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson review Buddy, a horror comedy that transforms the cheerful world of 1990s children's programming into a bloody nightmare. From its outrageous violence and dark humor to an unexpected discussion […]

    Myopia Management Practice: How to Slow the Progression of Childhood Myopia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2026 22:08


    Childhood myopia doesn't have to mean stronger glasses every year. Myopia management offers options designed to slow the progression of nearsightedness in children, including MiSight contact lenses, orthokeratology (Ortho-K), atropine and myopia-control glasses. Dr. Jennifer Lyerly and Dr. Alicia Barnes share how optometrists and families can choose the right myopia control approach based on a child's vision, lifestyle and individual needs.

    How to Build a Profitable Dry Eye Practice: Systems, Staff and Smarter Patient Care

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2026 48:04


    Dry eye care has become far more than recommending artificial tears and sending patients home. For practices willing to build the right systems around diagnosis, treatment and follow-up, it can become a sophisticated clinical service that improves patient care while creating a meaningful new revenue stream. On the 20/20 Podcast, Dr. Harbir Sian and Dr. […]

    Optometrist Burnout: Are You Really Burned Out or Just Bored?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2026 15:38


    Burnout has become a familiar word in optometry, but Dr. Adam Ramsey believes it may not tell the whole story. In a solo episode of Play Chess Not Checkers, Ramsey challenges doctors to consider a different question: Are they truly burned out—or have stress, repetition and shrinking margins simply made the profession less enjoyable? When the […]

    The Sheep Detectives: What a Movie About Sheep Can Teach Optometrists

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2026 45:57


    A flock of sheep solving the murder of their shepherd may not sound like an obvious starting point for a conversation about optometry. But on OD'ing on Movies, Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson welcomed Dr. Janette Pepper for a discussion that moved effortlessly from The Sheep Detectives to grief, belonging, ocular anatomy, optometry education, and the […]

    Dry Eye Discordance

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2026 37:55


    Dry eye disease rarely presents as a straightforward clinical puzzle. Some patients report burning, grittiness and blurred vision despite showing few visible signs; others have significant corneal damage yet feel little discomfort. In a conversation with Dr. Darryl Glover, dry eye specialist and researcher Dr. Kaleb Abbott explains why this disconnect matters—and how recognizing it […]

    From Compassion to Leadership: Phernell Walker's Vision for Opticianry

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2026 41:35


    Long before Phernell Walker became a master optician and the first Black chair of the American Board of Opticianry, a childhood encounter gave him a reason to care about sight. Speaking with Tarrance Lackran at the United Opticians Association Leadership Conference in Chicago, Walker traced a remarkable journey from poverty and limited expectations to national […]

    The Odyssey Part 2: Monsters, Moral Choices, and the Long Journey Home

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2026 63:46


    In part two of their discussion of The Odyssey, Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson are joined once again by honorary co-host Dr. Morgan Jones. Together, they follow Odysseus through the darkest and most dangerous stages of his journey home. Between thoughtful analysis and hilarious side conversations, the three doctors explore the film's horror elements, […]

    What Canada's New Optometrists Really Want From Their Careers

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2026 32:12


    For optometry students and new graduates, choosing where and how to practice can be challenging—especially when reliable career information is difficult to find. Dr. Wynn Nguyen is helping close that gap through the Canadian New ODs report, a crowdsourced survey exploring compensation, career priorities, work-life balance, practice location, and professional goals among Canadian optometrists. Opportunity […]

    Women's Eye Health: Connecting Hormones, Beauty Trends and Dry Eye

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 24:13


    Dry eye disease affects women at approximately twice the rate of men, yet the relationship between women's health and the ocular surface is often overlooked. In a conversation on The 20/20 Podcast, Dr. Harbir Sian and Dr. Janice Luk explored how hormonal changes, beauty routines and inflammation can influence dry eye throughout a woman's life and […]

    From Scleral Lenses to Mindful Leadership: Dr. Melissa Barnett on Innovation, Burnout and Impact in Optometry

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2026 44:28


    In this episode of the Play Chess Not Checkers Podcast, Dr. Melissa Barnett joins Dr. Adam Ramsey to reflect on her evolution from a shy student into an internationally recognized optometrist, educator, author and coach. Their conversation explores how mentorship shaped her career, why individualized patient care matters, and how community, coaching and thoughtful leadership can […]

    Michael Inspires a New Generation and Lessons Beyond Music

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 39:20


    On a special episode of the OD'ing on Movies podcast, hosts Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson welcomed Dr. Darryl Glover, Dr. Ashley Johnson, and their children, Ariyo Glover and Rammona Johnson, to discuss Michael, the Michael Jackson biopic. For Ariyo, a devoted Michael Jackson fan who enjoys recreating his dance moves, seeing the film in theaters […]

    Can Face Wash Make Dry Eye Worse? What Eye Doctors Should Know

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2026 44:02


    A patient comes in with red, irritated eyes. Their eyelids are swollen. Maybe they have recurring styes, or perhaps they have tried several contact lenses and insist that every one of them feels dry. For an eye care professional, the natural response is to start thinking about treatment. But Amy Gallant Sullivan, executive director and […]

    How Dr. Jennifer Tsai Is Redefining Optometry

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2026 32:06


    Dr. Jennifer Tsai's career does not fit neatly into the traditional definition of optometry. She is an optometrist, practice owner, content creator, and entrepreneur who has built a personal brand reaching hundreds of thousands of followers while developing two practices in New York City. But the polished version seen today was built through experimentation, setbacks, […]

    Beyond the Eye: Rethinking Pain, Patients, and Human Connection

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2026 32:42


    Optometry is built on measurements, clinical findings, and treatment plans. But some of the most challenging patient encounters cannot be fully explained by what appears under the slit lamp. On The 20/20 Podcast, host Dr. Harbir Sian sits down with Dr. Richard Maharaj to explore a more human approach to care, one that considers pain, psychology, […]

    Vision Therapy in Practice: Finding the Line Between Appropriate Use and Overreach

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2026 30:07


    Vision therapy has long occupied an interesting place in eye care. For some conditions, there is a growing body of research supporting its use. For others, questions remain about where appropriate treatment ends and overreach begins. On the 4-Eyed Professor Podcast, Dr. Chris Lievens sits down with Dr. Marie Bodack, Chief of Pediatrics at Southern College […]

    What Eye Care Can Learn From Great Retail Experiences

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2026 26:03


    What makes someone want to return to a store? It is rarely just the product. For eye care practices, where healthcare and retail intersect every day, the experience surrounding the product can be just as important. On 4theRecord, host Tyler Kemp speaks with Lea Wilhelm, owner of The Peacock, a three-location consignment business in Calgary, about […]

    The Odyssey Through an Optometrist’s Lens: Why This Epic Still Captivates Audiences

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2026 51:13


    Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey has become one of the biggest cinematic events of the year, but for Dr. Jacobi Cleaver, Dr. Jacob Wilson, and Dr. Morgan Jones, the film offered much more than stunning visuals. Their conversation blended mythology, filmmaking, and optometry into an entertaining discussion that revealed why Homer's ancient story continues to resonate with modern audiences. […]

    Should You Do an Optometry Residency? Everything You Need to Know

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2026 23:36


    Choosing an optometry residency is about more than getting a match—it's about finding the residency that matches your long-term career goals. Dr. Whitney Powell explains how identifying the type of practice she wanted helped her choose a program that accelerated her clinical skills, confidence, and career.

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    Building a Dry Eye Practice Around Passion, Patients, and Progress

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2026 53:26


    When Dr. Cory Lapin opened his dedicated dry eye practice, he was not stepping into a polished operation with a large staff and years of established systems. Just four weeks in, the practice consisted largely of Lapin and a virtual receptionist, leaving him involved in nearly every part of the patient experience. Rather than seeing […]

    Autonomous: When AI, Horror, and Human Nature Collide

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2026 44:24


    Artificial intelligence is rapidly becoming part of everyday life, from chatbots to autonomous vehicles. In this episode of the OD'ing on Movies Podcast, filmmakers Erin Aine and Kyle Valle discuss their newest micro-horror series, Autonomous, a suspenseful story that explores what happens when technology becomes something we trust without question. Along the way, they reveal how a simple idea evolved into […]

    The Simple Blueprint That Grew an Optometry Practice from $280K to $4 Million

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2026 52:20


    Learn how to build an optometry practice with leadership, practice culture, and proven business strategies from Dr. Kurt Steele's journey to $4 million.

    How Alain Mikli Redefined Luxury Eyewear Through Fearless Design

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2026 50:17


    For nearly five decades, Alain Mikli has challenged the eyewear industry to think beyond function. In a conversation with Tarrence Lackran on EyeConversations, the legendary designer reflected on building one of the most influential eyewear brands in history, proving that success comes from originality, persistence, and an unwavering commitment to craftsmanship not simply following trends. Success Doesn't Happen […]

    Myopia Management in Practice: How to Get Started

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2026 48:22


    Myopia management in practice is no longer limited to specialty clinics. Learn how to start myopia management, overcome common barriers, educate parents, and confidently deliver myopia control across corporate optometry, private practice, and academic settings.

    Leonardo Learning Platform: Transforming Eye Care Team Education

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2026 34:33


    Learn how the Leonardo Learning Platform helps eye care practices improve staff education, leadership development, patient experience, and long-term practice growth.

    Beyond the Exam Room: Dr. Ansel Johnson's 40-Year Legacy in Optometry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2026 39:00


    For Dr. Ansel Johnson, a 40-year career in optometry has never been defined solely by prescriptions, practice ownership, or professional titles. His journey reflects something much larger: the power of representation, lifelong learning, community service, and using eye care as a gateway to better overall health. Speaking with Dr. Adam Ramsey on the Play Chess […]

    How to Scale an Optometry Practice Without Losing the Human Touch

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2026 67:10


    Looking to build or scale an optometry practice? Jamie Rosin shares proven strategies for growing an eye care practice by improving leadership, patient experience, team accountability, and operational systems. Learn how to optimize your current practice before expanding and build a scalable foundation for long-term success.

    Glaucoma 101: Understanding the Silent Thief of Sight

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2026 26:03


    Glaucoma is one of the leading causes of irreversible blindness worldwide, yet many patients are unaware they have it until significant vision has already been lost. In this episode of the Eye-Q Podcast, Dr. Rudrani Banik breaks down the fundamentals of glaucoma, explaining what every patient and every eye care professional should understand about this […]

    From Disclosure Day to Specialty Contact Lenses With Dr. Lisa Wahl

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2026 61:41


    What happens when a science-fiction movie about extraterrestrial life brings together conversations about iris color, specialty contact lenses, career growth, and the importance of having a life outside optometry? On the OD in Our Movies podcast, Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson welcomed Dr. Lisa Wahl, OD, to review Disclosure Day. The conversation moved from […]

    3 Simple Ways To Improve Employee Retention In Your Practice

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2026 42:59


    Running a successful eye care practice requires more than clinical expertise. Practice owners must also lead teams, manage performance, communicate expectations, and build a workplace culture where employees can thrive—often without formal training in human resources. Dr. Alanna Wilson shares how her two-location practice is building a more proactive approach to HR, while Olivia Leduc, […]

    How to Start a Myopia Management Program: A Practical Guide for Optometrists

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2026 59:14


    Learn how to build a successful myopia management program with practical strategies for myopia control, including MiSight contact lenses, Stellest spectacle lenses, orthokeratology, and atropine. Explore clinical protocols, axial length monitoring, pricing, parent education, and team implementation.

    The Future of Dry Eye: Why Precision Medicine Is Changing Everything

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2026 15:46


    Dry eye disease is no longer viewed as a simple problem solved with artificial tears. As Dr. Laura Periman explains, modern research is redefining dry eye as a complex, multifactorial disease that requires personalized diagnosis and targeted treatment. During her conversation on The 20/20 Podcast, she explores how innovations in molecular medicine, neuroscience, and ocular surface diagnostics […]

    Independence Day Movie Review and Fireworks Eye Safety Tips from Optometrists

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2026 57:23


    Nearly 30 years after its release, Independence Day remains one of the defining summer blockbusters. Starring Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, and Vivica A. Fox, the 1996 sci-fi classic combined action, humor, and unforgettable visual effects to become a global box office phenomenon. Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson revisit the film, discussing why it continues to […]

    Purpose Over Perfection: Dr. Cortez Lewis’ Journey to Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2026 65:37


    Success is often portrayed as a straight path marked by perfect grades, ideal circumstances, and flawless execution. Dr. Cortez Lewis' journey proves otherwise. From growing up in a small Arkansas town and navigating academic struggles to overcoming unimaginable personal loss while pursuing his optometry degree, his story is one of resilience, faith, and unwavering determination. […]

    Experience Persol at Movies With A View This Summer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2026 17:10


    Persol has spent more than a century building a reputation for timeless Italian craftsmanship, authentic design, and a deep connection to cinema. This summer, those values come to life through one of New York City's most iconic outdoor events. Beginning July 2 and continuing every Thursday through August, Persol will serve as the presenting sponsor of Movies With A View at Brooklyn Bridge Park, a free outdoor film series that has become a beloved summer tradition for New Yorkers and visitors alike.

    How to Build a Dry Eye Practice: Dr. Ada Noh’s Journey From Burnout to Purpose

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2026 36:54


    Building a successful dry eye practice goes far beyond adding new technology. Dr. Ada Noh shares practical strategies for creating efficient systems, improving patient education, and delivering consistent dry eye care that benefits both patients and the practice. Learn how intentional workflows and evidence-based treatment can help optometrists build a sustainable and thriving dry eye practice.

    Building Trust, Referrals, and Real Influence in Optometry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2026 22:50


    As optometry continues to evolve, doctors have more opportunities than ever to specialize, adopt new technologies, and collaborate with industry, but lasting success is built on something far more important than equipment or titles: trust. During a conversation recorded at the British Columbia Doctors of Optometry (BCDO) conference, Dr. Harbir Sian, Dr. Julian Prosia, and […]

    What Obsession Teaches Us About Passion, Purpose, and Finding Your Place in Optometry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2026 55:31


    The latest episode of OD'ing on Movies took listeners on a deep dive into the indie horror sensation Obsession, a psychological thriller that explores what happens when admiration turns into unhealthy fixation. While the hosts unpacked the film's suspenseful twists and unsettling themes, the conversation also highlighted something equally compelling—a unique career path in optometry. Guest Dr. Lindsay Carroll shared […]

    Virtual Assistants in Optometry: The $20K Cost Advantage

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2026 37:52


    Key Takeaways Virtual assistants in optometry are becoming a critical solution for practices looking to scale across multiple locations without increasing operational complexity. For optometrists managing growth, the challenge is not clinical care, it is maintaining consistency in scheduling, communication, and patient flow. In this conversation with Dr. Adam Ramsey and Dr. Monica Miller, a […]

    Dry Eye Demystified: A Closer Look at Xiidra® (lifitegrast ophthalmic solution) 5% for DED Inflammation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2026 43:23


    Dry eye is showing up in exam lanes every day—and for many practices, it represents one of the most consistent opportunities to improve patient comfort, visual stability, and long-term trust. In this Defocus Media Podcast episode, Dr. Darryl Glover and Dr. Jennifer Lyerly are joined by dry eye specialist Dr. Jackie Garlich to discuss real-world dry eye care, focusing on identifying symptoms, confirming diagnosis with practical tools, and addressing inflammation with therapies such as Xiidra.1* 

    Top 10 Myopia Control Myths

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2026 36:20


    Myopia management is transforming pediatric eye care, but myths surrounding genetics, screen time, contact lenses, and treatment effectiveness continue to create barriers to early intervention. In this MythBusters edition, Dr. Jennifer Lyerly and Dr. Justin Kwan separate fact from fiction while exploring the latest evidence behind myopia control and practical strategies every eye care professional can use to protect children's long-term vision.

    Building a Boutique Optometry Practice: Why Authenticity Is Your Greatest Competitive Advantage

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2026 47:16


    Opening an independent optometry practice has never been more challenging—or more rewarding. In a recent episode of the Depth Perception Podcast, Dr. Danielle Richardson shared her journey of launching Clarity on Melrose, a boutique private practice in West Hollywood that blends personalized patient care with intentional branding and business strategy. Rather than competing on volume, her approach […]

    Ensuring Success: Managing Expectations and Treatment Adherence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2026 50:46


    Dry eye disease (DED) impacts countless individuals, and while therapies like Xiidra® (lifitegrast ophthalmic solution) 5% have proven effective,1 ensuring consistent patient compliance remains a challenge for eye care professionals. Xiidra, which can improve signs and symptoms as early as two weeks,1* is most effective when used consistently. Based on insights shared in the Defocus […]

    Marketing Metrics That Matter for Optometry Practices

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2026 34:00


    Learn how optometric metrics and optometry KPIs can help grow your practice through better business decisions and improved patient care. Discover the key performance indicators every optometrist should track including patient retention new patient growth revenue per patient optical capture rate dry eye services and myopia management to build a stronger more successful practice.

    Kids, Screens, and Anxiety: What Every Optometrist Should Know

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2026 47:32


    Children today spend more time looking at screens than any generation before them. Conversations about technology often center around digital eye strain, myopia progression, or limiting screen time, but an emerging perspective suggests the impact may reach much deeper than the eyes alone. During a recent discussion on the 20/20 Podcast, optometrist Dr. Meenal Agarwal […]

    What Can Optometrists Learn From Predator? Leadership, Service, and Career Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2026 57:23


    Optometry careers rarely follow a straight line. During a recent episode of the OD'ing on movies podcast, Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson welcomed Dr. Brian Sturgill to discuss the cult classic movie Predator, but the conversation quickly evolved into something much deeper: military service, traumatic brain injury care, entrepreneurship, and building a meaningful career […]

    What is Clinical Oculomics and AI in Eye Care

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2026 38:57


    Artificial intelligence and clinical oculomics are transforming optometry and the future of eye care. Dr. Osama Said explains how retinal scans and AI may soon help optometrists predict cardiovascular disease, dementia, blood pressure, and other systemic conditions years before symptoms appear.

    Financial Wellness in Optometry: Income, Burnout, and Finding Balance

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2026 29:02


    Financial wellness in optometry is becoming one of the profession's most important conversations. During a recent episode of the Depth Perception Podcast, Dr. Jasdeep Singh, Dr. Svetlana Nunez, and Dr. Chris Lopez explored the realities behind income, student debt, burnout, and long-term financial success in eye care. Using insights from the 2026 ODs on Finance […]

    From Optometry Student to Ophthalogix Canada CEO: Dr. Julian Prosia's Journey

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2026 40:34


    Dr. Julian Prosia is helping shape the future of dry eye innovation through advanced amniotic membrane technology, biologic therapies, and modern ocular surface disease management. In this conversation, the CEO of Ophthalogix Canada discusses the evolution of amniotic membrane treatment, emerging dry eye trends, IPL advancements, neurotrophic keratitis management, and the mindset required to become a leader in modern eye care.

    Gut Health and Eye Health: Why the Connection Matters

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2026 33:35


    The relationship between gut health and eye health is becoming one of the most important conversations in integrative medicine. In a recent episode of the Eye-Q Podcast, Dr. Rudrani Banik sat down with functional medicine expert Daniel Chille to discuss how inflammation, leaky gut, oxidative stress, and nutrient deficiencies may directly impact vision and long-term ocular health.  Key Takeaways Why […]

    How to Ace Your Optometry School Interview

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2026 29:46


    Getting accepted into optometry school involves much more than strong grades and a competitive GPA. Interviews allow schools to evaluate communication skills, professionalism, maturity, and a student's passion for patient care. During a recent episode of the Depth Perception Podcast, Dr. Svetlana Nunez and Dr. Douglas Akidi shared practical strategies to help pre-optometry students feel more […]

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