The Drum Network Podcast

Reforming voices in the ad industry have made a lot of progress in recent years - better understanding of advertising's impact on the environment, better tools to measure that impact, and plenty of new recruits to the cause - but the more radical among them would still say that it's not enough. Here, with the help of Ad Net Zero and Impact Plus, we focus on a few of the bits of progress that they're still clamoring for, including standardized reporting and more data from the programmatic world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Analysts claim Gen Z is redefining loyalty. We delve into this, questioning if they're truly less loyal or simply loyal in a new way. Join our experts in brand loyalty, youth marketing, and social media as we unpack this crucial question for marketers seeking to connect with the next generation of consumers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Following major research by Team Lewis last year into the things that really bother CMOs (and what they can do about them), two senior brand-side marketers and Team Lewis' own Yvonne van Bokhoven tell us just how frightened senior marketers should be about the outlook ahead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Live from a late night saloon bar at the recent WFA Global Marketer Week, The Drum's editor Cameron Clarke chatted with Ebiquity's Ruben Schreurs and veteran mediaman Nick Manning. The topic: how Elon Musk's lawsuit indicting the WFA and a new White House approach to trade are changing the media landscape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's no-one who's been more instrumental in making the ad industries take attention seriously than Dr Karen Nelson-Field, founder of Amplified Intelligence and author of The Attention Economy, and Mike Follett, chief executive of Lumen Research. We brought the pair together to talk attention's journey into the center of marketing effectiveness thinking and why so many are finally waking up to the power of attention. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We sit down with neuroaesthetics specialist and cognitive scientist Katherine Templar Lewis and Wonder's executive creative director David Crease to unpick how scientific thinking about all five senses is pushing forward experience design. For more on sensory branding's cutting edges, check out this story on The Drum. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The ad business has long faced accusations of geocentrism, with heavy focuses in London, New York and Tokyo. That has long been shifting, with those evolving dynamics amplified by the universal-amplifier of the Covid-19 pandemic. But are borders shifting again? We hear from a top marketer in Dubai, and another who sold one of the UK's most successful independent groups from Bournemouth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Everyone wants to be Duolingo: over a hundred million active users worldwide, all hooked on its nudges and streaks and terrified of that big green bird. But where else is 'play-thinking' starting to transform the rest of the marketing industry? Jaywing's Danni Smith and UsTwo's Maz Karimian tell us. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last month, The Drum released our World Creative Rankings, a definitive list of world's most-awarded agencies, creatives and campaigns from 2024. But how does a creative climb the ranks of the many thousands of ad people around the world? We asked two people whose rankings increased the most from last year to this: LePub Milan's Cristiana Candido and FCB Chicago's Bruno Mazzotti. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With ADM Group's chief sustainability officer Tom Hunter and Green House's Tessa Corcoran, we look at how marketers are rethinking their role in a FMCG world that's copping a lot of flack for wastage and unsustainable practices. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Phase one of the mass global roll-out of generative AI is coming to an end, and phase two is coming. With the help of Jellyfish's Jack Smyth and Lindsay Hong of SmartAssets, we inventory the best AI tools right now, the smartest marketing approaches, and where we're going next: an 'agentic AI' future that just might have some world-shaking repercussions for marketing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Buy Now: The Shopping Conspiracy is arguably the most widely-distributed piece of criticism of the marketing industry in recent times. We sit down with the doc's producer Flora Bagenal and one of its star interviewees, former Adidas brand chief Eric Liedtke. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Super Bowl is over, but the conversation's just beginning. Off-pitch, what will we remember this year's event for most? Kendrick Lamar's barnstorming half-time show? The advent of the AI Super Bowl ad? Or seeing, for some reason, Seal as an actual Seal? We're joined by Metaforce's Allen Adamson and Gartner's Nicole Greene to discuss the biggest advertising takeaways from the Big Game. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Unpack the power of marketing mix modelling (MMM) with Anja Bertoncelj Tugrul (group account director, Stellar Search), Thomas Barker (CEO, Green House Agency), and Aaron Dicks (technology director, Impression). From Coca-Cola's $3 return on every $1 spent to other real-world wins, they share sharp insights on how data, tech, and smart partnerships are transforming the future of performance marketing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Unpack the seismic shifts reshaping the financial sector with Louise de Ste. Croix (Head of Growth & Founding Partner, Brand Opus) and Jack McLaren (Director & Founder, PATTRNS) as they explore how neo-banks like Monzo and Revolut are shaking up the industry with bold branding and customer-first features. Dive into the challenges of marketing in a heavily regulated space: How do you build trust when no one trusts banks? Can killer branding beat the red tape? And what happens when big tech crashes the party? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we explore how B2B marketing is shaking off its dull reputation and embracing creativity and humanity. Hear from industry experts Anca Rhone (The MX Group), Matt Box (George P. Johnson), and Jenny Sagström (Sköna) about standout campaigns from brands like MailChimp and Volvo Trucks, the emotional complexity of B2B decision-making, and why curiosity and strategy are key to cutting through the noise. Find out how bold ideas are helping B2B brands stand out, and why B2B marketing is more exciting than ever. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we dig into Black Friday's evolution in 2024, in 2 parts. Looking at platforms, John Clarke (head of social, Nest Commerce) and Jake Hewlett (managing director, Tambo) share how Black Friday remains a revenue powerhouse despite growing challenges, while Duncan Birch (business director, DEPT) and Saoirse Cleary (creative strategy director, MG Empower) explore the rise of loyalty programs, personalized deals, and extended sales periods.Whether you're diving into discounts or staying cautious to protect your brand, one thing's certain: success hinges on smart strategy and year-round prep. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Want the rundown of Advertising Week New York 2024? Wes Morton, CEO of Creativ Strategies and Kris Tait, Managing Director of Croud give their take on AWNY and break down the big moments. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dive into the complex and rapidly evolving CTV ecosystem with Kepler, and Mediaplus Group. Unpack the alphabet soup of acronyms and explore the challenges and opportunities for marketers navigating this fragmented landscape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join DEPT, Disrupt Marketing, and PATTRNS to unpack the fashion industry's sustainability crisis and explore the role marketers can play in driving more sustainable practices. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Delve into the future and challenges of wearable technology with 2Heads, Landor, and M&C Saatchi Sport & Entertainment. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Explore the world of digital and dynamic out-of-home (DOOH) with Croud, Impression and Posterscope + Liveposter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How are agencies making their money? As agencies adapt to client demands and technological changes, join CLICKON and George P. Johnson UK to explore the changing revenue and pricing models in the industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Explore the marketing and branding strategies around the 2024 Paris Olympic Games with Landor, M&C Saatchi Sport & Entertainment, and Story10 as we delve into the evolving landscape of sports marketing. Get insights on the opening ceremony, the coverage of the Olympics on TV and digital platforms, and the ecosystem of partnerships and sponsorships. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Explore the fuse of marketing and football during UEFA Euro 2024 with Ear to the Ground and Propellernet. Discover key trends in sports marketing and get perspectives on the tournament from marketers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join The Drum Network as we wrap-up Cannes Lions 2024. First, we discover The Drum's perspective of the festival with Cameron Clarke, Editor for The Drum. Then, we delve into insights of industry professionals from BrandOpus and VaynerMedia on their experiences of attending Cannes. Explore the evolving nature of the festival, the high costs associated with attending, the impact of AI on the industry, and the relevance of advertising awards. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Delve into the world of automotive marketing with Jack Morton, Jaywing and TRO as they unpick how auto marketing strategies are shifting away from traditional TV ads towards more experiential and digital approaches. Understand marketing for modern luxury customers, leveraging influencer partnerships, developing online showroom experiences, and executing bold sponsorship activations to engage audiences. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Following the release of the landmark 2024 Podcast Trends Tour, we sit down with Spotify Advertising's Jenny Haggard to break down the headlines, from podcasting creators' deeper relationships with fans to the emergence of a whole new breed of creator, ‘podfluencers'. Then we stress test those ideas with four marketers who each host their own podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network podcast, we explore the opportunities and challenges facing budget retailers in today's economic environment with retail marketing experts from No Brainer, Rightpoint, Stellar Search and VML. Gain insights from our guests on how budget brands can differentiate themselves through creative marketing, subscriptions, building trust, and more data-driven growth strategies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network podcast, we plunge into the world of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the marketing industry with insights from marketers of top agencies. Join our guests from DEPT®, MAS, Merkle, SmartAssets, and Tangent as they delve into the current state of AI and explore how you can enhance the creative process through collaboration between humans and AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network podcast, we dive into the current challenges and future opportunities in healthcare marketing. New host Sam Anderson is joined by a panel of expert health marketers from Kepler, Space & Time, JACK RYAN, and Rightpoint. Discover how brands can navigate privacy regulations while still offering personalized experiences, and manage global campaigns across different compliance standards. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network podcast, we tackle community marketing evolution and challenges. Industry experts from MG Empower and Spin emphasize the importance of understanding brand values and audiences in order to foster meaningful connections. Learn how brands can authentically develop and maintain communities through social media strategies, events, and crisis management protocols. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network podcast, industry experts explore the evolving landscape of music marketing. Join Dare Balogun from M&C Saatchi Sports & Entertainment, Kristen Mitchell from Wasserman, Glenn Minerley from Momentum Worldwide and Sara Yazdani from Creativ Strategies as they discuss the impact of digital platforms, social media, and live performances on promoting artists, tracks and brands. Gain valuable insights into measuring success, navigating PR strategies, and the changing dynamics between artists, labels, and fans. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest episode of The Drum Network Podcast, industry experts delve into the ever-evolving world of influencer marketing. Join Derek Goode from 160over90 and Natalie Silverstein from Collectively as they discuss the latest regulations impacting creators, emphasizing the importance of transparent disclosures. The conversation explores building long-term relationships with influencers, sharing valuable insights for CMOs on centralizing influencer strategies. Discover key takeaways for navigating the influencer landscape and leveraging social media as the cornerstone of your marketing strategy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In latest episode of The Drum Network Podcast, ad industry experts discuss the intricacies of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) within the agency space. From post-acquisition communication strategies with clients to the importance of internal and external comms, our experts share their experiences and tips for a seamless integration process. The conversation delves into the evolving landscape of agency services, the impact of international markets on M&A decisions, and predictions for mergers in 2024. Gain valuable insights into the positive aspects of M&A and considerations for agency leaders in a rapidly changing industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How does psychology play a role in agency business and campaign development? In this episode, experts from Momentum Worldwide, DRPG, and Unlimited discuss how understanding consumer behaviors, emotions, and motivations through research can provide insights to create more impactful marketing. Learn from examples of campaigns inspired by psychological principles and debate the various methods available to gather emotional data from audiences, taking away advice for agencies on translating insights into actionable strategies and recommendations that resonate with consumers on a deeper level. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Incumbents in the space have been closely monitoring a raft of changes in healthcare marketing over the last few years: entry into the market from nimble startups and fresh divisions of major consumer agencies alike; AI integrations; work to address longstanding inequalities in healthcare treatment and outcomes; a rise in influencers; and more. In this episode, healthcare marketing experts from Jack Morton, Seven Stones and Bray Leino question if these forces are coming to a head. Which of these factors should brand marketers and CMOs be keeping a closer eye on? And as they do, what will the upshot be for consumers, agencies, and brands? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The latest in our series of marketing industry back-to-basics, performance experts from Earnest, Jaywing, Don't be Shy and Space & Time give a primer on what performance marketing looks like in 2023 (going on 2024).Gain insights from real-world examples including Spotify, Google and Airbnb and learn to navigate the nuances of performance marketing within the broader marketing landscape: effective measurement, the interplay of data and personalization, and the strategic role of performance within a broader marketing context.⭐ Are you part of an agency with an opinion worth sharing? Visit thedrum.com/network to find out how to appear on an episode of The Drum Network podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The luxury space has seen some perhaps surprising but lucrative moves over the last couple of years, from collabs with creators to integrations in gaming worlds and beyond. But during times of permacrisis and economic hardship, how does luxury hold out? Luxury marketing experts from The Goat Agency, VERB (Croud), and XYZ (160over90) share how marketers are engaging consumers amidst inflation, navigating impacts on wealth levels, experiential preferences of Gen Z and younger audiences, and changing trends. Discover the importance of authenticity across demographics and where further blending of strategies may lead luxury marketing in the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

B2B marketing has shifted from boring to sexy in recent years, thanks (in no small part) to the rise of influencers. But what's shaping this space, and how can brand CMOs get it right? Dig into the driving factors and future directions of b2b influencer marketing with leaders in the field; Sofia Mogliazzi of VaynerMedia, Caspar Lee of Influencer, James Baldwin of Ogilvy UK and Stevie Johnson of Disrupt.Gain actionable insights on current trends and best practices in this evolving field, through topics like authenticity, building long-term influencer relationships, relevance across the sales funnel, and measuring real ROI from B2B influencer marketing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Retail media has been a big topic of the last couple of years. But what is it, where do the opportunities lie for brands, and what's coming next?Hear how Jellyfish, VMLY&R Commerce and Indicia Worldwide are helping brands succeed with retail media. Our expert panel discusses measurement across channels, driving awareness beyond transactions, and creating seamless omni-channel experiences. Walk away with tips for partnering with agencies, investing in tech and taking an integrated approach. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Almost every brand wants to make a global impact, and with the world feeling smaller and better-connected than ever, it's an achievable dream for some. In this episode, we gather expert global brand builders to pin down what good strategy and tactics look like, and what factors are continuing to change the global brand landscape.Roberto Amerighi, GreenJinn, Herbert Ho, Jellyfish APAC, Nicola Winters, Search Laboratory and Yvonne van Bokhoven, Team Lewis, share best practices for building a global brand. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Strategy experts Andrew O'Sullivan, Transmission, Dave Jones, true Digital, Gokce Ince, Zone and Jennifer Pyne, Radley Yeldar, share their most glowing examples of strategy excellence in the real world. We dig up practical advice for marketers on authentic brand building, differentiation, governance and collaboration, and the ingredients for successful brand strategy - all through insightful case studies of iconic brands like Barbie. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Search is changing: shifting away from the well-established go-to-Google-there's-your-answer, we're seeing alternative search journeys emerging through social (including TikTok), voice, and generative AI like ChatGPT. Will any of these truly inherit Google's crown, or even seriously threaten to?In this episode we hear from Dave Colgate, head of search engine optimization, Vertical Leap; John Campbell, head of innovation, ROAST; Sam Cant, head of search engine optimization, Jaywing; and Lottie Namakando, head of paid media and planning, iCrossing to dive to the bottom of the evolving search landscape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Still now, women in the marketing industry are all too often given cause to notice campaigns and messaging that they find misguided or damaging - not least in certain spaces that may have traditionally been behind the space, like sports and technology. In this episode, we hear from Charlie Li, strategy director, TRO; Debbie Gacutan-Jardim De Oliveira, social media and community manager, Brew Digital; and Emily Winterbourne, managing director at Impero, to explore if and how marketing's approach to women is shifting, and which gaps still need closing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Experiential marketing has had tumultuous few years: crash with Covid-19; rapid pivot to hybrid environments; and (not so long ago at all) a returned clamor for IRL experiences. Is this year, this summer, the time when all of this comes together for experiential's big moment? In this episode we hear from Sophie Taylor, senior account director, George P. Johnson; Svenja Frahm, creative director, Pixel Artworks; Stephen Whelan, creative director, TRO; and Arianna Lebed, senior creative director at MAS, to discuss: What are the biggest trends around experiential that we'll be riding this summer?To what extent is tech now indivisible from experiential, both in the run-up to and post-event?What KPIs do clients now expect from experiential campaigns, and how easy is it to integrate those measurements into an omnichannel campaign?What are the biggest challenges facing experiential marketers at the moment, and how are they being overcome?What are you most excited about in the world of experiential over the next few months and years? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Our culture is waking up to the differences in people's minds - and the differences in the sorts of thinking they can do and work they can create. On this episode we speak to experts with an interest in neurodiversity alongside neurodivergent creatives (and other marketers) to figure out whether the industry is doing right by its different-thinking talent, and how to make the most of this rich diversity.Senior reporter Chris Sutcliffe speaks to Charli Edwards, creative drector, BECG / LoveThat; Rory Natkiel, head of integrated strategy, Iris; Luke Hodson, founder, Nerds Collective; and Jess Markwood, COO, the Fifth, to discuss:LinkedIn made dyslexia a skill last year - to what extent is neurodiversity becoming more visible and recognised in our industry?What benefits do agencies have when their employees are open about being neurodivergent? Better representative, more inclusive creative etc.What more should be done by brands and marketers to make sure that neurodivergent people feel welcome and able to fully contribute in the industry?Whose responsibility is it within agencies/brands to ensure that neurodiversity is being considered?Finally, how hopeful is the panel that we're making progress in this area? Why - or why not? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

'Phygital reality' was thr buzzword du jour a couple of years back, replaced more recently by the wider catch-all 'hybrid'. Whatever you call these blended experiences (and perhaps you're already calling them something new), a marrying-up between the digital and physical worlds has become a goal for many. Here, we investigate not just total CX approaches that bring journeys through both worlds, but cutting-edge technical applications that merge the two; examples of work that shows the way forward; and thinking about what all this means for the marketing landscape.Senior tech reporter Chris Sutcliffe is joined by Karen Hu, business development lead, GreenJinn; Ken Madden, SVP digital engagement at George P. Johnson Experience Marketing; Trin Basra, executive creative director, Freeman EMEA; and Andy Sexton, executive creative director and partner, 2LK, to discuss:What have been the best examples to date of consumer-facing phygital experiences? What made them so successful?Which sectors are verticals are primed to do these experiences already? Where are there still opportunities?What role do agencies play in planning these experiences - and how do we go about measuring their success in a meaningful way?Finally, what are you most looking forward to when it comes to blending real-world and digital marketing in the next few years? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's data month, and we're examining the biggest questions related to its use in marketing. What are the groundbreaking ways you or your colleagues have used data to segment, target, discover, or understand audiences? How is that impacting campaigns and other aspects of your business? And what are the next developments (close or far-off) that will expand your capabilities even further?Senior tech reporter Chris Sutcliffe is joined by Andrea Villa, paid media analyst, Brave Bison; Natasha Willmott, head of proposition activation, Indicia Worldwide; Richard Chapman, social data director, Ogilvy UK; and Sophie Coley, director of strategy at Propellernet, to discuss: Where does data enter into the marketing journey - or is it there from the outset? Where has smart deployment of data been used to entice the user into the top of the funnel?Over the past few years we've seen marketers and brands use data to deliver upon the promise of personalisation. Can you think of any examples of brands doing this really effectively?Is 'data' too broad a category description for its use by marketers?What would be your advice for any marketer or brand looking to supercharge its use of data - and can it be done wholly in-house, or are partnerships necessary?Finally, what are you most excited about for the use of data in marketing in the next few years? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We hear a lot about marketing's new frontiers - social media; speculative excitements like the metaverse - but we can't forget the continuing power of traditional formats and platforms. On this episode we speak to experts in traditional channels - linear TV; radio; print; analog billboards; direct marketing - to hear how they see those channels developing. Senior reporter Chris Sutcliffe is joined by Andy Benningfield, head of broadcast at Bray Leino and Matt Bond, SVP, studio & print production services at Merkle, to discuss:Spend on some traditional advertising media has held up - which traditional advertising media do we think are still strong?What strengths i.e. trust, heritage etc. do those traditional advertising formats have that marketers should be aware of?How are those advertising media adapting to the digital age when it comes to things like measurement/attribution?What are the opportunities for brands when it comes to using these traditional media? Are there some sectors and verticals that should be using them more?Finally, what predictions do you have for the future of print/radio/linear TV etc? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the latest edition of our semi-regular 101 series, we'll look at social media's 'next big thing': live shopping. What are the essentials that your fellow marketers need to know? Who is doing the most interesting work in this space? And what opportunities are emerging next for people looking to lead this space?Senior reporter Chris Sutcliffe is joined by Carmen Muley, CEO, FREIM Studio and Debbie Ellison, chief digital officer, VMLY&R Commerce, to discuss: What is currently possible using live shopping tech?Who - both brands and platforms - have we seen make the most of what is possible to date?There has been speculation about why live shopping hasn't taken off in Europe and the US as it has in Asia. What is holding those territories back?What are the opportunities for agencies and content creators to become part of the live shopping experience?What predictions do you have for the next 5 years of live shopping? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.