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Success does not always mean moving faster, achieving more, or keeping up with someone else's timeline. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik has built a career across marketing, business development, media, travel, and entrepreneurship, yet some of her biggest lessons have come from learning when to slow down. Stephanie and I explore burnout, wellness, fear, AI, social media, intuition, and why our lives rarely follow a straight path. We talk about doing your best without needing to be the best, trusting your instincts, letting go of what you can't control, and staying open when life changes the plan. I believe you'll find useful ideas here about personal growth, resilience, and creating a life that feels like your own. Highlights: 0:10:15 - How high achievement can lead to burnout, stress, and health issues. 0:16:09 - Learning to control fear instead of letting fear control you. 0:24:30 - How asking, trying, and taking initiative can open new career paths. 0:35:35 - Doing your best matters more than being the best. 0:45:26 - Knowing when to stop pushing and let life unfold. 0:58:37 - Trying more helps you discover what you're capable of. About the Guest: Dr. Stephanie Gutnik is President of tuxedo concepts, providing management consulting and public speaking to organizations across the world. Her focus areas are integrated marketing communications, business transformation and corporate wellness. She is also the author of the children's book, “My Very Best”. Stephanie has spoken globally from Taiwan to Brazil, with notable events including Advertising Week New York and London, Ad Age's Business of Brands in Chicago, Brand Innovators in New York, Possible in Miami and AdAI in Toronto. Her articles and interviews can be found in publications such as Adweek, AdExchanger, Digiday and the Association of National Advertisers. She has also been a juror for the likes of The Drum and Future is Female. As EVP Omnichannel at Wilkins Media, Stephanie has previously held roles as Global Chief Strategy Officer at Billups, Global Head of DOOH at Yahoo, Vice President of Digital Strategy and Programmatic Sales at OUTFRONT Media, and Vice President, Business Development at Broadsign. She sits on the Board of Directors of the Canadian Association of New York and Jewish Community Foundation of Montreal. Stephanie graduated with a BA from McGill University and has a MBA and doctorate from Edinburgh Business School. Ways to connect with Dr. Stephanie**:** People can follow me on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniegutnik/) Tuxedo concepts (tuxedoconcepts.com). My book is available through Amazon and directly through Book Baby (https://store.bookbaby.com/book/my-very-best) About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. 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Each week, I talk with people who challenge assumptions, face adversity head-on, and show what's possible when we choose curiosity over fear. Together, we focus on mindset, resilience, and the small shifts that lead to meaningful change. Let's get started. Hi there! Welcome to another episode of Unstoppable Mindset. We're glad you're with us wherever you happen to be. Hope you're having a good day. Our person that we get to chat with today is Dr. Stephanie Gutnik, Doctor No Less. We'll have to find out about that, but she is is here from Toronto, where right now it's pretty cold because we're recording this on the 30th of January, so it's cold where she is. It's not quite as cold where I live in Victorville, California, but we're doing okay and we'll cope. So Dr. Gutnik is the president of Tuxedo Concepts, and I'm not going to go into any detail about it because I want to leave all that for her. So we'll just do it this way. Stephanie, welcome to Unstoppable Mindset. We're glad you're here. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  01:49 I am so glad to be here. Thank you. Michael Hingson  01:51 Why don't you tell us a little about maybe the early Stephanie growing up and all that? Let's start with that. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  01:57 All right. The early Stephanie grew up in Winnipeg, Manitoba, which is even colder than Toronto is this time. So I'm definitely used to snow and negative temperatures, and I just had a wonderful, wonderful upbringing to be in the prairies. You get perspective on a lot in life, and was very close with family, friends, and then very quickly I wanted to discover more of the world, so I left to study at McGill for undergrad, and it's in Montreal, in Canada. And my life took shape around that. I traveled the world. I continued my academic pursuits and certainly climbed my way up in the business world as well. Michael Hingson  02:47 How did travel to various places sort of shape your outlook on things? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  02:54 I've always had the travel bug. Growing up, we would go away to you know different parts of the states and some warmer destinations with a family road trip as well. And then as I got older, it was it was Europe, it was Australia, and I was always very happy to travel alone or with groups of people that I met for the first time. And I was just really curious to see what life was like in other places, and that translated very nicely into my my working reality, where I was largely in marketing and business development throughout my career, and I was with companies at first that were rapidly expanding internationally. So I was able to open an office in China and set a business plan for you know hiring in the Middle East and go to South America and speak and and grow the business. So I'm really grateful because when I meet people now, typically wherever they're from, I can you know pick my favorite food that I ate while I was there, and we have something to smile about and talk about. Michael Hingson  04:04 That's pretty cool. Well, I I haven't traveled as as much as you have, but I've traveled enough, and I enjoy travel. I enjoy going to different places and meeting people and experiencing different customs. And even around the United States, there's so many diverse and different kinds of environments. It's it's pretty fascinating. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  04:25 Very much. Do you have a favorite place in the U.S. Michael Hingson  04:29 Oh, it's still going to be California because the weather's better. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  04:34 I hear you. I Michael Hingson  04:35 my favorite place is probably in the San Diego area because I think it's still the best weather anywhere. It's a temperate climate. It's a good climate. It doesn't really get cold to freezing very often, although it can in the winter. But it warms right up during the day. So I really like San Diego. We enjoyed my wife and I living in San the San. San Francisco area. We lived in a town called Novato, which is in the North Bay of the San Francisco area. We lived there for 12 years, and I enjoyed that too. But San Diego still has the best weather. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  05:12 The air in La Jolla is is delicious. Michael Hingson  05:17 Oh yeah, Speaker 1  05:18 yeah, Michael Hingson  05:19 and and of course that's the whole point. La Jolla is such a nice place, and it's northern San Diego County, and you've got the beach, and you've got the university there, and so many other things that make it a nice place. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  05:32 Very true. Michael Hingson  05:33 Now I live in Victorville, which is kind of up on the high desert of California, so it's not exactly the same. And I never thought I would live here. But we moved here because it was the only property in Southern California when we wanted to move down to be closer to family. It was the only property that we or place where we found property where we could build a home, and we wanted to build a home because my wife was in a wheelchair her whole life, so we wanted to build an accessible home, and that's what we did. So we've been here now. I've been here for well. We moved down in July of 2014. So my gosh, it's going to be 12 years in five months, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  06:13 isn't it? It's funny that you say that because I always find in life there just you find yourself in circumstances that you did not plan, and then they become rather permanent, and you can't really envision your life without that place or that circumstance. Michael Hingson  06:30 I hear you. I agree. And well, and you know, this house is very comfortable. I like it. My wife unfortunately passed away in November of 2022, so it's me, a dog, and a cat, but I enjoy it, and I'm I'm perfectly happy here. I said I never thought I would live in Victorville, but that's okay. That is where I am, and the house is wonderful, so I I'm I'm fine with it. If I had one thing to say about Victorville, it is the drivers up here all think they own the road, and they're as far as I'm concerned. I ought to be able to get a driver's license because I could drive as well as a lot of the people up here. I don't see the problem myself. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  07:12 But up until recently, I hadn't driven a car in like at least 12 years, just from living, you know, in more cosmopolitan cities, and really enjoying a good walk. Michael Hingson  07:24 Yeah, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  07:24 just yeah. Michael Hingson  07:25 But you drive now? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  07:27 No, I've just been behind the wheel to break that. Break that. Michael Hingson  07:31 Just to get into that habit. Yeah. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  07:33 Totally. Yeah. Michael Hingson  07:35 Well, and Toronto, you you can certainly get around Toronto without a lot Of grief, Speaker 2  07:41 totally, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  07:41 yeah. I am. I very much value the ability to live somewhere where you can just run out and pick something up to eat, or you know, see people around you. I think it's important. Certainly, it feeds me. Michael Hingson  07:58 Yeah. So, and I and really, for the most part, enjoyed living in New Jersey and working in New York City. New York City is a great place to be able to get around. It's pretty easy to to travel anywhere in the city, subways and all that. Now, it wasn't as easy for my wife because she was in a wheelchair her whole life, and a lot of subway stations and so on aren't accessible. But one day, it was actually before we moved back there. We were both we were in the city, and my wife wanted to go see the UN, and it turns out that she could go downstairs in the hotel where where we were staying, and I was doing other work. But she was able to get a bus that took her right to where the UN was. She could wheel across the street and take a tour of the United Nations and so on, and then take the bus back home because everything was accessible. So she was really excited about having had the opportunity to do that. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  09:09 I love that. Michael Hingson  09:11 Yeah, I was at. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  09:12 It really is, and it's important. I was at Yahoo for a couple years, running a division there globally, and when I started, it was part of Verizon Media. Yes, Verizon Media, part of Verizon, and the work that groups were doing on accessible features and technology really intrigued me. And you kind of think there should be an element of that at every company producing whatever it is that they're doing because it makes such a difference. Michael Hingson  09:41 Well, when you think about it in terms of, let's say, in the U.S. for example, the Center for Disease Control says that up to 25% of all people have a disability. Now, I disagree with that, and I'll come back to that in a moment. But they say 25% have a disability, and so often. Often companies don't deal with that. They're leaving out 25% of their prospective customers because they don't want to make things accessible. And there is so much evidence to show that companies that do create accessibility get the brand loyalty and they get the business, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  10:21 yeah. Michael Hingson  10:22 And the reason I object to 25% is my belief is everybody has a disability. For most of you, it's light dependence. You all don't do well when the lights go out, unless you happen to have a smartphone or a flashlight or whatever. So I describe disability as a characteristic that everyone has. It's just that it manifests itself differently for different people, but that's that's that's my view on it. And one of these days, we'll get more of society to recognize that there is a lot more that they need to do to to to deal with preventing this whole business of leaving so many people out. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  11:00 I mean, I couldn't agree more with you. By the way, and there's also, you know, call it disability or whatever you want. Everybody has something in their life that you know it either doesn't make it as easy or makes it their own. And so the whole point of you know when you talk about a customer base, really just interacting as humans, it's how do we how do we understand that everybody is dealing with you know one thing and what can we do and you know throughout my throughout my working career I was somebody who like despite being born in Winnipeg I should have been born in Manhattan because my work ethic is one where I'll work day and night and be very happy about it. I walk quickly. I get things done quickly, and so it was. You know, if you if you give me a challenge, I'll do anything to you know fulfill it. And I think what has what I've seen with myself and amongst others in my network, is that that type of personality begets a whole slew of other issues: burnout, health issues, stress. And so, one thing that I developed and have started to take on the road. I know you're a public speaker. I am as well. I call it the wellness workshop, and it's not you know get up at five in the morning and do your yoga and then your 30 minute meditation and then your your 5k run or it really is much more more tangible and certain tips and tricks that we can do when we're on an airplane or you know in a hotel or just in a period where we're feeling overwhelmed, and I really believe that we have to be cognizant of what's going on with each other in the workplace and just in general, and be able to offer some of the these these guidelines to just help everyone, you know, be okay, if you will. Michael Hingson  13:00 One of the things that I have adopted as a pretty hard line way of living is when I'm flying to travel and speak. I don't want to work on the airplane going or coming. Rather, I'll use that time to sort of mentally prepare because when I get off the airplane at a destination, I know I'm on until I get off until I fly out again. There are going to be people who want my attention and all that. So I use that time to relax, and then when I leave again, I don't want to work. I want to be able to kind of unwind. So I like to read and do things like that, but I I use those airplane flights basically as a time to unplug. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  13:49 Yeah, and see, you're being mindful of the space that you need to let yourself unwind and be that much more productive, and have your battery recharged when you're when you're landed. But I think more Michael Hingson  14:01 people should do that. And there are so many different kinds of things that we can do. We collectively, as a society, tend not to be overly introspective. We don't think about things. So something doesn't go right. We consider it a failure. We worry about it. We fret about it. But what we don't do is listen to our own inner voice, and we don't analyze well. So, what was the real problem here? What am I afraid of? What can I do to make sure that this doesn't happen again? We don't ask ourselves those questions. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  14:31 Oh wow! I kind of needed to hear that actually today. So, thank you for bringing that up. You're very right. Michael Hingson  14:37 Is that because you haven't figured out why you live in the snow. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  14:41 I'm working on that. Yeah, there you are. Yeah, cold is actually very good for our vagus nerves. So yeah, Michael Hingson  14:48 well, I it it gets fairly cool here at night. It was down to oh what 27 degrees, so it was like minus. Two or three Celsius a couple of weeks ago here, and but I am I I can keep pretty warm, and when I'm sleeping at night, my cat sleeps right up next to me. She does it because it keeps her warm, but it helps keep me warm too. So I'm not complaining. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  15:19 There you go. Michael Hingson  15:20 But I minus Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  15:21 minus two. By the way, that's beach weather. Michael Hingson  15:24 Yeah, yeah. Well, there you are. Yeah, fine. You go to the beach then. But I, but I think that we we really do need to collectively and individually think about the need to unplug to to not just always do every single thing and that the same way, and then when there's a problem, we don't take time to think about it, which is a real problem. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  15:51 There's also the concept of I don't know if we're raised with this or if at some point we think this is what happens in society, but to think that our lives are almost like a staircase, and that the older we get, the further up the staircase we should be going, is is quite a fallacy. Because again, it you know you're gonna it's just not how it works. Sometimes things stay flat. Sometimes you're gonna go down a few steps. And no, this is called. We're all about the unstoppable mindset here, right? So it really is. If you're falling down a few stairs, what do you do to get back up? I would say, Michael Hingson  16:31 right? Yeah, and that's and that's it. And you have to really look for that answer, which is which is Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  16:40 the issue. So, Michael Hingson  16:41 yeah, go ahead. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  16:42 I was just going to say, like, is that something that people can learn, or is it something that you, you know, is ingrained in you from a younger age? Michael Hingson  16:51 Well, I think that for some people it it may be, and I think, but it is a matter of life. It is a matter of upbringing. I think it is something that people can learn. So during the pandemic, I wrote my book "Live Like a Guide Dog: True Stories for a Blind Person and His Dogs About Being Brave, Overcoming Adversity, and and Moving Forward in Faith. And what I talk about through as the basic premise of the book is that in reality, we can learn to control fear. I will not say we should never be a. We should never say we're not afraid. We should never say that. Oh, I don't ever experience fear. We do experience fear, and it's evidenced in so many ways. But you can either allow fear to overwhelm you and and as I would put it, blind you, or you can learn to control fear. You can learn that fear can be a very powerful tool to help you. And my evidence of that is that I learned so much prior to September 11th about what to do in emergency and other things like that. And all of that clicked in on September 11th. But I realized during the beginning of the pandemic that I'd never taught other people to do the kinds of things that that I do, and that I still tend to do. And so, I wrote "Live Like a Guide Dog" to to try to teach people by using examples that I learned from my eight guide dogs and my wife's service dog about how to live. So, the example I use most often is people. What if everything to death? Well, what if this happens? What if that happens? What if this? What if that? And the reality is, 95% of that will we have no control over, and all we do is create fear and worry because we keep going "What if" about this, and there's nothing we can do about it. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be aware of things, but we don't have to worry about them. We don't have to focus on all the stuff over which we have no control. Dogs don't. What if anything? And I learned that because on September 11th, when we got home, I was going to take my guide dog Rozelle out. I took the harness off, and she ran off and grabbed her favorite tug toy and started playing tug of war with my retired guide dog Linnie. And when I talked to the people, the veterinarians at Guide Dogs for the Blind, where I got Roselle, I talked to them the next day. They said, "Well, did anything threaten her at the World Trade Center? And I said, "No. And they said, "There's your answer. When the harness came off, it was over for her. They don't. They don't. What if? And we should learn that. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  19:27 And she wasn't. She wasn't processing what just happened. She just moved on. Michael Hingson  19:32 She moved on. You know, and and people still today fear it, and they worry about so many Things as I said, the the fact is we should be aware, but it doesn't mean that we have to worry about, especially if we don't have control over it. I rented office space in the World Trade Center in late 1999, early 2000, and. I was able to get office space because there had been a bombing in the World Trade Center in 1993. It wasn't much of a bombing. It was an explosion in a parking lot on the fourth sub sub level of the World Trade Center. So it wasn't the last. Yeah, it wasn't a big thing, but the occupancy rate by the time I was looking for office space, had dropped to 80% and why? If if something were to happen, something would would happen. But people worried about it, and so many people left the World Trade Center, and I thank them for doing that because I got a great rate, and we rented office space there. So fine, but but the fact of the matter is that we worry about so many things over which we just don't have control, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  20:48 right? So you're a bit of a risk taker too in that sense. Michael Hingson  20:51 Well, in a sense, but you know, so there was a bomb that a car something exploded, and I understand that, but was it a true risk to go off and rent space in that building and that complex afterward? Well, is there risk in doing it today with the new complex? The fact of the matter is that there are always going to be things that can happen. the The question is, is it really taking a risk, or are you being silly and putting yourself in harm's way? I won't do that if I can avoid it. But that doesn't mean that I'm not gonna gonna be out there and try to live my life and and help others do the same. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  21:38 That's the biggest thing: not living in fear of of so many different variables, Michael Hingson  21:44 right? So you went to McGill, and you you worked in you graduated with what degrees in business or what? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  21:53 No, I graduated with a bachelor of arts in political science and communications. Okay, I went to McGill thinking that I was going to become a broadcast journalist. I loved the idea of being on camera and in the heat of something going on. And I've been told that I ask a lot of questions, and it's just it comes naturally. I'm very curious, so I love speaking to people and getting their opinions on various things, and then bringing that all together for what hopefully is a representative story of multiple truths, right? And I'm still like that to this day. So everything, if I had you know strength, it would be how do I compile a lot of information and then kind of organize it to to cut certain things out and really get at the crux of whatever it is that we're dealing with. So I loved I loved that. I still do. I had an internship at CTV Montreal, so it was a big news station nationally in Canada. And you know what? It was one of those things where I just didn't feel like a fit for me at that time, and so again, it's what do you do after? Oh, I was entering my my last year of undergrad, and I I thought, okay, maybe I'll just go do a master's because I really loved. I've always loved school, and instead, I got the advice: just go out there and pick something and work a little bit and figure out, you know, what it is that you want to do from there. When you're, I graduated a year early, so I was 21. It is hard to know what you want to do, right? I think a lot of young people find themselves in that position, and instead of, I guess, going back to the idea of fear, instead of being paralyzed by it and not doing anything, just do something, and at least it puts you on some sort of path. So, what did Michael Hingson  23:44 you do? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  23:45 I got lucky. I ended up working for News Corp in Montreal for a couple of years in advertising sales, and that introduced me to the world of advertising. It helped me refine sales sales, you know, efforts and and skills, and I think that understanding how sales work, whatever you do in your life, that's going to come in handy, right? So I was doing that, and I was dealing with agencies and marketers for various different brands, like L'Oreal, for example, Denon, and I liked what they were doing. So then that led me to a job in marketing for a software company, and that's the story: is marketing turned into business development and partnerships, and launching a new tech effort and expanding with that company across the world. And I was able to lean into a lot of writing and speaking, and that's that's how my career evolved. And I did my MBA while I was working for that company, so there were a lot of lots of studying during plane rides. So not quite the unwinding, but it was definitely a break. From the actual work, Michael Hingson  25:02 well, that's fine, and you, you, you've you've done a lot with it. So you got your master's degree. Where did you get that from? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  25:11 That was from Edinburgh Business School. So I did that remotely because I was traveling a lot, and I had a lot of business in the UK. So it made sense to do something around there, and again from there I was recruited to. I built a lot of my own positions while I was at this company, always going, "Oh, this isn't being dealt with. Why don't I take a stab at it and see what happens? Oh, there's a gap here. Let me figure that out. Even you know, the Middle East is one that I like talking about because at the time we were not doing any business there, and I had a hunch that I was like, "Look at all the research. We should be there. We should have a sales rep at least. And the CEO at the time said, "No, no, it's it's not really. I don't agree. So we made a deal for a small amount of money. I was able to figure out my trip and see if I could make a business plan, and so I took a flight from Montreal that had two stops to get there. Lost my luggage, and I know. But on the way back, I mean, long story short, the company now has a thriving business in that region, and while I was there, maybe there's a certain age at which you don't know any better. But I think I've always had this and always will. Is I was raised to understand that if you don't ask, either you don't get or you won't know. So I reached out to the editor of Golf News, which is their biggest paper there? And I said, "Hey, you know, I'm here growing a business in this industry. Can I write an article for you? And he said, "Yes, and it was published. And so stories like that is it kind of defines my life. I always like to figure out what else I could do and and learn from it and push the envelope a little bit. Michael Hingson  27:02 Yeah, sometimes you have to to take a stand. Sometimes you you have to develop your own mental toughness. And when when people disagree, you unless they can really present some strong argument, then you really just need to to push forward. And and clearly that's what you did, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  27:21 yeah. And look, sometimes you're right, and sometimes you're wrong, and that's a learning experience in itself, and that's part of being humbled. And I think that's equally as important. Michael Hingson  27:32 Yeah, and it's all part of the adventure of life. If Speaker 3  27:40 you enjoy Unstoppable Mindset and would like to help us continue bringing these conversations to you each week, we've created a way for you to support the show. Your contribution helps us cover production costs and continue sharing stories, insights, and ideas that inspire people to live with purpose and possibility. If supporting the podcast feels right for you, you'll find the link in the show notes. Thank you for being part of the Unstoppable Mindset Community. Michael Hingson  28:13 What made you decide to get a doctorate? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  28:16 Ah, so after the MBA again, I loved school, and I figured, why not just keep going? And I was moving to New York, and it was my mom who said, "You know what, Steph? Like, you're. I think I was I was 26. She goes, "Just enjoy your life a little bit, and she wasn't wrong. So I took a few years, and after that, it was still at the back of my mind. I still really wanted to continue and take my education as far as I could. So I thought long and hard about what I would want to study for that kind of time. And you know, it's not going to change the world. But I studied the advertising effects of mass media and ones that have been changing as a result of you know the whole media landscape has been digitized, so that's what I did. And actually, the the brand that I worked with for my research is a company out of California called Goodr. So they they make sunglasses, and I worked with their marketing team, and it was just a wonderful experience. And again, it's a different way of thinking. By that point, I was very much an executive, and I had been at private and public companies. And going back to school in that sense and learning, you know, in the business world, everything is about being concise, which I think is a very powerful skill to have. And in academia, you slow things down, and you really look at the whole picture plus all of the small, small details that build it. So, I'm an impatient person, and that definitely took some some work, but I loved the whole process. It wasn't easy, but I'm very happy that I did it. Michael Hingson  30:03 So, when did you get your PhD? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  30:05 I graduated. I want to say two odd years ago, two or three years ago. Michael Hingson  30:11 Congratulations! Well, that's cool. Thank you Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  30:13 very much. Yeah. Michael Hingson  30:15 How how do you think that AI is affecting the the world of media, the world of public relations and marketing, and so on. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  30:27 So, despite working in ad tech, I myself am quite a luddite. I I'm very removed. I don't have too much social media, and usually with technology, unless it really benefits me, I'm not going to be the first. I'm not going to be an early adopter, if you will. So with AI, I appreciate you know the the code and so on that it's built on all of the the knowledge behind it and how it works. And I definitely think there's so many realms in which it's going to help us advance as a society, and I think that with advertising and marketing and media, AI helps take out. It's there's something that preceded it in terms of media buying called programmatic that I've spent a lot of my career dedicated to, and programmatic just really automated media buying and selling, made a little bit easier than picking up the phone and calling two dozen different vendors to put a campaign together, and so with AI, it does that even more so. It just takes out a lot of the more tedious and redundant work from media planners to strategists and helps us understand a little bit better how marketing dollars are actually put to work, and how effective they are in terms of the results that we see. But here's the thing: is as much as AI is going to simplify certain processes, we, at the end of the day, are human beings, and the reason why, as far as I know, nobody's really mastered the stock market yet. It's because we're driven by emotion and we're fickle, and think it takes a lot for a machine to understand how we think and how we work. And so the same thing applies to advertising because for an ad to be effective, it has to strike a chord with humans somehow. So I think that by nature of us being human, the the world of advertising will still have media departments and creative teams, and have to continue to think about you know the strategy behind what it is that we're doing. Michael Hingson  32:34 How about social? What would you say? Well, I I think there's a lot of truth to all that. I think that AI is a tool, and different people will use it in different ways. And I'm not going to even go to the negative aspects of it because the the reality is most anything that we create, somebody will find a way to misuse it, and and I can't worry about that. But I do see the value of AI and the AI technology, in terms of how it can help us codify or create different kinds of aspects of whether it's marketing or or anything else, AI can assist us. But it is a tool, and we're still the humans, and we're going to be the ones that will be in control. I'm not ready to accept that it can take over in the end. I don't think that's going to happen. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  33:28 I'm still. I'm still not even thinking about Michael Hingson  33:32 it. Yeah, I just think I think there are a lot of ways that we can use it. AI has done already a number of really good things for us collectively, and I think that's great. That doesn't mean that we're all going to use it, or that doesn't mean that we'll all use it extremely, well, in an extremely productive way all the time. But it is out there, and I think it's again, it's one of those things that's worth learning about and understanding because it's going to be here. It's not going away, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  34:07 right? Michael Hingson  34:08 How about social media? That's the that's the other one that's become even more pervasive. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  34:14 And social media, again, just by nature of who I am, I am not big on it, and it's not knocking it. I just know that it's not, it's not something that I want to have in my life to the extent that some others do want it in theirs. I'm really good with just doing my own thing and focusing on my little bubble in terms of you know the restaurants that I choose to go to and what food I'm eating and and all of that and with the people who are in my life I love hearing from them directly and getting updates and seeing their pictures so I definitely I use LinkedIn for business I think it's fantastic yeah and it's a wonderful platform to to build a profile and interact with people. Your world that way, and I think that there's a lot of people doing the same with other platforms. And so, when I look at social media from a business perspective, I think it's amazing. And when I look at it from a personal perspective, again, it's not for me, but I I think if people enjoy being on it, that's totally up to them. I can't. I just don't really have the patience to to. I'd rather do something else. I'd rather work on, you know, either my my full time job or my my business is on the side, or go for a walk. Quite frankly. Well, Michael Hingson  35:39 I think again, I'm I'm I'm kind of with you. I think that, especially personally speaking, people who spend hours a day on social media are missing out on so many other kinds of things that would would be even better. And and a lot of that has to do with personal contact with other people, which you don't have. No matter what people may say, you don't have when you're just dealing with communicating through social media. That's not the same. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  36:08 It's true. Plus, there's the element. Yeah, and there's I think people feel pressure, and we see this. It goes both ways, but I do think there's a bit of a pressure to put your best foot forward in a social media environment, right? Whether it's Photoshop or editing or posing for you know a lovely photo when you're not doing great, whatever it might be, and I think that's slowly changing. But for me, it's more. Think we're all just trying to do our best, and you know, I don't. It just doesn't work for me on a personal level. Michael Hingson  36:45 Yeah, I think we should try to be doing our best all the time, anyway. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  36:48 Yeah, that's true. Exactly. We should. Well, that actually leads me to. This is a. You know, I'm. I'm going to go for it. This is a plug. It's. I wrote a book called My Very Best for that reason. Actually, I was going to talk to you about that. Yeah, go Michael Hingson  37:03 ahead. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  37:04 So you know exactly what you're doing. Yeah. And by the Michael Hingson  37:07 way, I would appreciate it because I don't think that you did send me a picture of the book cover that we can put in the the notes, the show notes. I Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  37:14 did, and I will follow up with that again. Thank you so much. It's that was something that I've always wanted to do. When I was younger, my mom tells me about how I used to bring a stack of books over to her to read to me, and I definitely have fond memories of reading books to my sister, who's younger than me. And I've always just loved children's books because they're they're so beautiful in their simplicity and the way that they can frame a young mind into being curious and imagining and learning so much about the world, and so I wanted to definitely write a book about the values that my sister and I were raised with. She told me that she was having our first child about a year ago at this time, and so in that time frame, I was like, "This is the moment. This is when I have to write a book. And so I wrote it for for him and her, my nephew. And it was one thing where I just I started with writing out the the copy, and then I needed to get it illustrated, and then from there I was like, you know what? I've done all this work. Let me let me publish it. And so I just was a big learning experience and so much fun. And I had readings, and I just went to go see it on the shelf at Canada's biggest bookstore called Indigo. And I'm I'm so thrilled. So I wrote it because my parents really-they raised my sister and I to really understand that it's not about being the best; it's about giving something your best effort. Because that way, you know, if you do well, great-you worked really hard to get there. And if you don't do well, you're not going to be wondering, hmm, if I only had tried more, because then you're disappointed with yourself. So it's about setting yourself up to always be proud of who you are, and that's really important to me. Michael Hingson  39:11 Are there any books, other books inside of you that may come on in the future? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  39:14 Oh, well, that one I I'm loving right now. If we consider my thesis, my doctoral thesis, a book, that one will put you to sleep because it's long and quite academic. Many theses Michael Hingson  39:31 will do that. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  39:32 Yeah, and I think I quite like. I can see moving forward the more journalistic style articles. So maybe there are a few of those that address very specific moments or questions. Maybe we'll we'll see some of those come out. And what about you? Given that you are also you're a New York Times bestseller, do you have anything up your sleeve? Michael Hingson  39:53 Not at the moment, but we'll see down the line. But one of the things that that I believe. His and I and I've roused about this even on the podcast a few times. I think that textbooks are so boring, and they shouldn't be. I think that every every textbook that that someone writes ought to have some personal things in it to help draw readers into being more excited about learning more about what's in the textbook. So a physics book is is real lovely, but it's very boring. Why don't Why don't they have Why don't the physicists, the scientists who create those books, put in as part of what they do some stories about their efforts, some stories about the discoveries they've made to really make the books more personal and to draw people in. Publishers don't want that, but the reality is it would really attract, I think, a lot more interest in textbook material. And and the same thing with technical journals and technical manuals. They're so boring, and there's so much more that could be done with them. I think that would would attract people much more than than they do today. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  41:07 There's something about humanizing and adding a little bit of maybe even imperfection. Dare I say, like, hey, this is what happened, and let's be real about the situation. That yeah, makes it more entertaining for sure. Yeah, Michael Hingson  41:20 yeah, which I think makes makes perfect sense, and and it would be I think a wonderful thing to do. Well, maybe we'll have to start a new publishing company and insist that the people who write books for our company do that. Some to think about it. I'm with you. We Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  41:38 can we can offline on that. Michael Hingson  41:40 Yeah, ought to be able to do something with it. Well, so anyway, for you, so you wrote the children's book, and and it's out there. Did you self publish it, or was it published by a company? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  41:53 Yeah, I went through a company based in New Jersey, and they just had the perfect platform and distribution for me, and it really-I would say-around the time that I was 35, which is now when I turned that age, I really started thinking about like you know, okay, our life doesn't have to be cut and paste, and there really is no manual. And I had thought that for most of it, I would look at people that I admire or respect, or people around me, and look at them, evaluate the milestones that they had reached by specific ages, and then I'd look at myself, and you know, sometimes I was feeding those milestones. In my opinion, like I, I worked my way up the corporate ladder very quickly, but there were other ways in which, at the time, I thought I was lagging or, or dare I say, failing, because certain other elements of my life weren't where other people's were, or I thought it should be. So I've been going through a process really of of letting that go, and again, just to your going full circle to what you said earlier, just being a bit more introspective and appreciating that we're all again trying to just do our best here, and nobody's journey is going to look the same. So with that has just come. I've always again I've always wanted to try new things, but it always is. I'll wake up in the morning and go like, you know, what do I want to do today? Who should I reach out to to see if there's some way to collaborate or have a new experience? And it's just made for really fun travels and stories and successes and and learning experiences. And I'm, but I'm working on that. I can say that as much as I want, and I think, you know, it's it's really believing it that is a bit more of an effort. Michael Hingson  43:48 Well, there you go, and you know, it'll it'll be interesting to to see how it all comes out as you go forward. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  43:54 Yeah, did you have that at all throughout yours? As you know, those periods of of Like plateaus, Michael Hingson  44:02 I think probably so, but I but I don't think that I really ever thought that that I was failing. There were times that that things were not happening the way I would like, and usually what I needed to do was to make an adjustment in my attitude to understand why things were going slower or not the way I expected, and sometimes they weren't going the way I expected because I had the wrong expectations. And again, I love introspection, and those are things that I learned along the way. And I also discovered that when I reevaluated and said, "Oh, maybe this really wasn't the right way to do this. Let's look at this. I think that's that's an important thing to do, but I usually find, and I still do, that if something's not working right. Usually, my inner voice, if you will, will tell me what is good, what's working, what's not working, what should be done, and I have to be the one to pay attention to that. and And if I don't, then I can get into trouble. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  45:15 It's amazing how much our our gut instincts really know what's best for us in certain situations, and how sometimes it takes a minute for our brain to to get there too. Michael Hingson  45:29 Yeah. Now, are you a spiritual person at all? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  45:32 Oh, totally. Another good segue. Yes, I believe in the scientific method, obviously. So, so that's that's that. But I am comforted by the idea that there's a lot more to what we're doing here than what is commonly accepted. Michael Hingson  45:50 Yeah, I think I think that's absolutely true, and that gets back to my comment about the inner voice, which is, if you want to say God talking to us or however you want to view it. It doesn't matter. the The point is that I think the information is there if we learn to listen and and accept it. Our our own minds absorb so many things that we tend to forget about, but all that information is there for us to use if we would, but tap into it, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  46:24 yeah, Michael Hingson  46:24 or allow it, or when it and it when it tries to tap us on the shoulder and say do it this way, we need to learn to listen. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  46:32 Ooh, and that's a great point too. Is for people who are used to propelling, you know, things forward, and you had mentioned what's out of our control. That's another really important word that I speak about in wellness and has been given to me. Yeah, do I see a do I see a psychic? Absolutely. I often get the words render because, again, sometimes it's just it's being able to to accept, and I do a little bit of Kabbalah in terms of reading and and learning about how that works. And the the term actually means to receive. So when we look at what we're doing here again, I think you want to put out some energy to put things in motion, and then there's a point where you just have to let life come to you. Michael Hingson  47:21 Well, and I think also it's it's so helpful at night to when when falling asleep, even you want to do something. Ask your ask yourself, what do you think about this? Should I do this? Give me guidance and give me insight as to what works. The more of that we do, the more we develop our mind muscle to be able to get the information and process it and do something with it, and that will help us. But it it has to be a discipline that we create and develop to really work on getting that information and seeking it every day, and listening to what our minds are telling us. I, people probably will get bored with this because I say it often on the podcast, but I talk about Trivial Pursuit. You know the game. How often do we get a question asked on a game, Trivial Pursuit, and we immediately think of an answer, and we go, "Oh, that was just too easy. That can't be it. And we think a little bit more about other options, and we choose a different option. But the first one that we thought about was really the right answer. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  48:33 Yes, Michael Hingson  48:34 exactly. And the point is that happened, and people agree. Now, what do we do about it? Well, we learn to listen to that inner voice. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  48:42 The same thing happens with students, by the way, on exams. Multiple choice is not always that easy because so many students have the tendency to second guess themselves. Michael Hingson  48:53 Yeah, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  48:54 and it's usually that their first instinct was the right answer. Michael Hingson  48:57 Right. Yeah. If they would just but listen and learn; they'll get the right answer by doing that. And and the reality is that I think there are some studies that have been done that people that truly do learn to listen and take those first answers and use them tend to be right a whole lot more often than they otherwise would have been, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  49:21 yeah. Again, trusting our instincts, Michael Hingson  49:25 right? Yeah. So, what kind of projects are you working on now? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  49:30 Oh, well, again, I I'm an EVP at an ad agency, so that's my that's my full time project. EVP. But then I always EVP, Executive Vice President. Michael Hingson  49:40 Oh, EVP. Okay, yeah, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  49:41 yeah. Okay, Michael Hingson  49:42 VP. Okay, got Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  49:43 it. Yeah, with an E. You know, if we're if we're looking at, so that keeps me very busy. And then on the side, I always again, I think it's very important to have an identity outside of work, and this is something that I actually had to learn. Because for a while there, my my job title and so on was my whole life, and you can do have hobbies and so on. The side for me, it has to be more constructive than that. So the other things that I have on the go is I have my company Tuxedo Concepts, where I do all different types of consulting work. I have clients across the world in the world of media through to you know a private equity fund called Links Equity, and I'm actually working on a protein superfood snack right now called Balance Bites. So that's another I'm snacking all the time, and I have a massive sweet tooth, so usually I'm going for like the brownies and the cookies, and I work with the founder of this brand, and they're packed with a lot of nutrients that give me a lot more energy throughout the day. So that is something that I definitely want to bring to more people. Michael Hingson  50:58 Oh, that's exciting! Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  50:59 It lines very nicely with this this whole wellness kick that that I'm trying to bring to others, but not not in the lifestyle that's impractical to some people or makes them you know not even want to think about it. More so again with those ideas of if you're feeling overwhelmed or anxious, splash some cold water on your face, right? Like there's there's certain tips like that that you don't have to go to a yoga studio or sign up for a gym membership. Though you know you should be exploring physical activity. It's what are small things that we can be doing for ourselves to bring us back into the moment. Michael Hingson  51:37 Do you think there are things in your life that that you're not doing that-that you should be doing, or that that you miss. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  51:46 Oh, on a personal level, I feel yeah. At this age, that probably from a family perspective, I should be getting on that. But that is one of those things that is so out of our control, and I find that in those instances, just it's very easy to look at what we don't have and yearn for it, but that can be depressing. So instead, it's it's much more fulfilling to look at what we do have and lean into that. Right? Michael Hingson  52:19 Yeah, I know that when my wife and I got married, we both pretty much thought we knew what we wanted in a partner, and we kept looking until we found it. We found each other, and and that worked. But we were I was 32 and she was 33, so we didn't get married right away, but the other side of it is we met in January of 1982, and we got married in November of 1982 because it clicked. We knew what we wanted, and we saw things in so many ways exactly the same. But there were also times that we disagreed with things. But you communicate. You you work through it, right? Michael Hingson  53:03 So, for example, she didn't want to have children because she felt that that would be kind of hard on her body being in a chair in her case, and I was fine with that. But our our solution to that was we'll be glad to entertain nieces and nephews and things like that because at the end of the day, we can either sell them to the gypsies or send them home, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  53:24 and that's beautiful, right? You still have such a wonderful impact on other people, and that's a thank you for sharing that. And one of my one Michael Hingson  53:34 of our nieces lives about three miles from me, and we see each other all the time. She and her husband, and now their kids are grown and have kids of their own, so we we get to see everybody. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  53:47 That is lovely. What about you? Are there any things that you still have on your bucket list that you'd like to be doing right now? Michael Hingson  53:55 Well, I certainly want to do more speaking because I want to keep that going. I'd like to to travel more, but it's not nearly as fun for me, at least traveling alone. But one of these one of these years, certainly in the next two or so years, I'll probably decide to take a cruise because I love cruising. Yeah, me Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  54:15 too. Michael Hingson  54:16 And I and I can do really fine cruising. I think that's a lot of fun to Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  54:21 do. Definitely. Which which part of the world would you cruise in? Michael Hingson  54:25 You know, I'm pretty open on that. I I first of all, I've been to New Zealand. I'd love to go to Australia, but as far as cruising, I'm pretty open. I'd like to to do a cruise up and down the Mississippi River, but I'd like to to to do some cruising around Europe or other places as well. I think it'd be fun. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  54:46 Yes, I I very much agree. My family went on. I was very fortunate. We did four cruises together, my parents, sister, and I all over the Caribbean and Mexico, and then I did one in South America, and I've done one. In Greece and Turkey, and I also I took a catamaran with about a dozen strangers in Thailand for almost two weeks. Yes, well, because why not? Michael Hingson  55:12 First cruise that we took, Karen was a travel agent at the time, actually, and her family wanted to go on a cruise. We did a two week Trans Panama Canal cruise, that was a lot of fun. Loved it. Then we did a cruise to Mexico, and I think we did another cruise in the Caribbean, and then the last cruise we took was to Alaska, which was a lot of fun. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  55:42 Okay, that is wonderful. Michael Hingson  55:45 Yeah. Was there anything Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  55:45 in Alaska that surprised you? Michael Hingson  55:48 Nothing that surprised me. It was just fun to go for me and and Karen actually. Although it's fun to get off and tour, we're fine if we're just on the ship the whole time, even just because it's the it's relaxing, it's the attitude and and and having fun. But but I would like to go and and cruise some. I think we'll do that sometime in the near future. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  56:13 Well, I mean, I'm all for it. You let me know when you go. Want to go? Yeah, I'm down. Michael Hingson  56:20 Yeah, we'll have to do that. That'd be fun, but yeah, we'll kick off Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  56:24 our textbook company on the cruise. Michael Hingson  56:26 There you go. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  56:27 Multitask Michael Hingson  56:28 books afloat Inc. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  56:30 Love Michael Hingson  56:33 it, but I think there's there's so much to do that you know we'll make it work. So you um um we talked about a little bit, but you really feel that having been in a variety of cities has helped your life perspective. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  56:48 Definitely. Look, the the way that you're just talking about travel, it's the same thing. Where I've lived in four cities and have traveled to many more, and it shapes you certainly when you when you make moves, I moved a couple times for work, for example. You are often finding yourself somewhere where you're alone, and you have to build a whole new community and support system. And sometimes that can be very lonely. And as much as I love spending time with myself, or but I think overall it really proves to you that you can be resilient and you can make you know wonderful things out of situations that you you didn't know what would happen, right? So similar to you not knowing that you would live where you do now, yeah, it's a beautiful testament to what we can do as humans, what we're capable of. Michael Hingson  57:44 Life's an adventure. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  57:46 I know. I love that theory. Michael Hingson  57:48 So, for you, what's been one of your biggest learning lessons over the last year? Since I assume you still believe that you learn all the time, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  57:57 I learn all the time. And again, I think it really is just going back to the spirituality element. Man plans, God laughs. I definitely have thought that there's a lot in my life that I had the ability to plan out. And even when I think things are going in a certain direction, the universe has this fun way of you know establishing a plot twist and seeing how I react to it. So yeah, maybe it's it's not take certain things as seriously and and kind of learn to go with the flow a little bit more. That's the biggest lesson there. Michael Hingson  58:33 Good for you. That's a that's a very important lesson. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  58:37 Yeah. So maybe it's a little bit later in life, but you know, it's never too late for these things. Michael Hingson  58:43 Never. What would be Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  58:44 one of yours? Michael Hingson  58:46 Well, I think for me, spending more time being introspective has has been a great lesson for me, and I've learned to to step back and again not plan so much, as you said. Man plans, God laughs. I don't know. I would say God laughs. God's just patient, and He says, "Go do what you're going to do, and then let me know when you're ready to get real. But you know, I I think there's a lot of truth to that. So for me, I'm just constantly learning to be a little bit more patient, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  59:22 a good one too. Michael Hingson  59:24 So, what kind of advice would you give to an up-and-coming entrepreneur or person about living life? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  59:32 Ah, Speaker 4  59:34 just Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  59:35 do do everything. Do everything that you want to do. Really, would be because I think that like the more that you try, the more you are learning about what you are capable of and who you are as a person. The more different types of people that you meet, the more opportunities that might come your way. And some of it you're not going to like. That's a learning lesson. And some of it. You're going to love. So, if there's, so I would say do all of that, and then the other one is, is make it happen, because nothing will come to you if you are not going after it. And I just said that we have to surrender and let things come to us, but I really believe that there has to be not a manifestation, but really just some intention to push us in a certain direction, and that that hard work is necessary in anything that's really good that comes to us in life. Anything that's good is going to take work. Michael Hingson  1:00:36 The only thing that I would add to that is when you said there are things that might might be happening. That might happen that you don't like. My only comment to that would be: step back and try to figure out why you don't like them, and see if there's really a reason. Because we we we are such a knee jerk reaction society. It's always good to analyze and go, what really is the issue here? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:00 Yeah, you're so right. Michael Hingson  1:01:02 Well, I want to thank you for being here. This has been absolutely fun. It has now been over an hour, and it's got to be past the beginning of your dinner time. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:12 It's almost past my bedtime on a Friday night. How about there? You go. Well, Michael Hingson  1:01:17 I really appreciate you doing this and and spending the time with us, and I I've learned a lot, and I hope other people have. If people want to reach out to you, how do they do that? Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:27 Oh, please reach out on LinkedIn. It's just Stephanie Gutnick. You'll find me. Michael Hingson  1:01:33 Spell that if you would, just to play safe. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:35 Yes, absolutely. S T E P H A N I E, and the last name is Gutnick. G U T is in Tom and is in Nancy I K. Michael Hingson  1:01:45 So hunt down Stephanie on LinkedIn. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:49 Stephanie doesn't know who Tom or Nancy are, but she just thought that those would be helpful names. Well, Michael Hingson  1:01:54 there you go. Well, hey, whatever works. Yeah, Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:57 exactly. Michael Hingson  1:01:58 There you are, Michael. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:01:59 Thank you so much. Michael Hingson  1:02:00 It's been a pleasure. Well, I want to thank all of you for being here with us, and hope you've learned some things today, and that you've enjoyed it. Wherever you're monitoring our podcast, please give us a five star review. But even more, or rating, but more important, give us a great review. Reviews are things that people like to see when they're thinking about what podcast to listen to, so we value your reviews greatly. And if you'd like to reach out to me, it's easy. It's speaker, S P E A K E R at Michael Hinkson, M I C H A E L H I N G S O n.com. Love to hear from you. If you know anyone who ought to be a guest on the podcast, let us know. Stephanie, you as well. Always looking for more people, and so I appreciate you doing that. And with that, Stephanie, once more, thanks for being here. This has been fun. Dr. Stephanie Gutnik  1:02:50 Thank you so much. I very much agree. Michael Hingson  1:02:55 Thank you for being here with me on Unstoppable Mindset. I hope today's conversation left you with a fresh perspective, a new insight, or at least something worth thinking about. If you're ready to go deeper into the ideas that shape how we see ourselves and others, I have a free gift for you. 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Not all reach is equal and neither is our level of attention: We know it instinctively, we’re told it, and now we’re getting better understanding into how to apply its qualitative impact to achieve mental availability, brand equity and sales uplift. The good news for digital out-of-home users is that the channel not only commands solid, bankable doses of total attention, it’s delivering the short and long for brands more efficiently than other digital, scrolling formats. QMS and Amplified have just dropped the latest landmark research in a multi-year program of work to gauge how attention is playing out in the digital out-of-home sphere. And it’s an eye opener for what DOOH can deliver, revealing surprisingly distinctive attributes that are sure to get tongues wagging in our industry. What’s more, the new study maps attention based on the principles of active, passive and non-attention, leveraging models and methodologies to ensure these findings can be understood and applied within the broader digital media ecosystem. The first and arguably most significant finding: Digital out-of-home has a dual effect, not only helping to build short-term advertising strength but also mental availability. “We found this situation where both metrics moved similarly together, which was very surprising to us, but also amazing,” said Amplified founder, Dr Karen Nelson-Field. It’s a nod to Mark Ritson’s ‘bothism’ argument – yes, brands actually can get both if they find the right vehicle to deliver them. “This is the first time I've seen where, in fact, it does drive both in the same platform,” said Dr Nelson-Field. “You can get your short and your long.” In complement, and arguably the stat most likely to upset the industry apple cart: DOOH can do this with just 1 second of active attention. That’s less than half the 2.5-second threshold established for scrolling, “fast decay” digital formats. Such results certainly had OMD chief planning officer, Thad King, rethinking both the right levels of attention required, and the role DOOH can play against a more diverse set of campaign objectives. “Think about out-of-home: It's visible from the moment you see you see it. The brand is visible; the message is visible,” he commented. “I think it stands to reason why it doesn't need as much attention. All the stuff that's been established previously around the two-and-a-half seconds to establish mental availability is still true, because it's for formats that storytell; you definitely need that level of attention for those storytelling formats. But it's something we probably haven't thought of before. “The level of attention that's required to drive outcomes from both a short-term and a long-term perspective is definitely going to help us potentially reframe some of the thinking in terms of out-of-home and the role for the channel at different stages.” That’s not the end of it either. The study also shows the longer time in view for one of these billboards or street furniture assets, the more active attention it earns, stacking both passive and active attention in tandem and further strengthening outcomes. “This is not saying that passive converts on its own. To be honest, we feel like there are a lot of publishers who do get a lot of passive attention that say it's highly valuable from a conversion perspective. It's not,” argued Dr Nelson-Field. “What we see here is that passive is leading to more active, and active is related to the outcome; it's related to the sales or related to the equity, the brand equity.” The power of this new data also comes from the fact this was an expansive study, with large format billboards in Sydney and Melbourne, City of Sydney CBD assets and a mix of pedestrian and vehicular traffic all in the frame. “We measured everything from overbridge sites to monopoles, sites that were on the sides of buildings, A sides, B sides. We wanted to really make sure we had this wide variety of different types of sites. The reason behind that is to give us a really thorough understanding of our assets, but also to take away bias,” said QMS chief strategy officer, Christian Zavecz. “We didn't want to sugarcoat it and just do our most premium sites. We felt that was really important to understand the contribution and relative performance of all of our assets.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Standard digital dashboards tell you where the click happened, but they miss where the purchase was born. Fortunately, returning to an older medium with a modern twist can help fill this critical measurement gap.On this episode of the Performance Marketing Unlocked podcast, Charmaine Tavassoly Moss, Programmatic Business Development Manager, UK, Bauer Media Outdoor, explains how programmatic digital-out-of-home (DOOH) and marketing mix modelling (MMM) are working together to fix your attribution crisis.This podcast was hosted by PMW's Deputy Editor, Joseph Arthur.~ Episode breakdown ~ (2:32) Why is OOH making a comeback?(12:35) How can we ensure pDOOH is incremental?(17:39) Overrated/underrated~ Further reading ~ ‘A refreshingly upbeat set of numbers to see': Industry thoughts on latest AA/WARC reportAA/WARC: UK adspend grows 9.3% to open 2026IPA Bellwether: ‘We must move beyond isolated channel performance' Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In today's MadTech Daily, we discuss critics arguing that Google's new Search Console feature masks the decline in AI-driven traffic, Alibaba's Qwen becoming the world's most downloaded open-weight AI model, surpassing Meta and Google, and an IAB report finding that Australian agencies are pushing for greater transparency in programmatic DOOH.

Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-115-laura-duncan Episode #115 features the award-winning Laura Hutchison & Duncan Clark aka ‘LaDunq' - a brilliant and prolific creative team who joined Uncommon in 2023 and have had a meteoric rise ever since. In just three years, L&D have been promoted to senior creatives, were nominated for "Emerging Team of the Year" at the Campaign BIG awards and shortlisted for the Tony Cunningham Award for Emerging Talent. Their work on huge brands such as British Airways, Monzo and Instagram has won awards galore and gained huge amounts of PR. We started with their first billboards for the British Airways ‘A British Original' campaign, a cracking start. Next up was ‘ATMmmm', the world's first sausage roll-dispensing ATM, for Monzo & Greggs in one of the most surreal pop-ups Newcastle has ever seen. Then we chatted WWF ‘A Prescription for Nature' which positioned the great outdoors as a medical necessity to combat the nation's mental health crisis. A campaign perfectly pitched for modern times. We discovered that Duncan has been and still is a carer. And how his job inspired The Carers Trust campaign, featuring unpaid carers stuck at home unable to protest because they're literally caring all the time. It's a really emotive project that first came about during their time at School of Communication Arts. And then we covered Instagram ‘Anyway'. “Doubt kills creativity. There's a hundred reasons not to do something. Do it anyway.” A wonderful use of DOOH with some incredible talent both in front of and behind the camera. We even squeezed in the Ecover work that encourages consumers to squeeze more into their half-empty dishwashers. “If it's not full, it's wasteful.” Thank you Laura & Duncan for being such charming guests with such brilliant work. Thanks to all our sponsors, who make the show possible: Bauer Media Outdoor View2Fill Super Optimal GAS Music

Êtes-vous prêt à transformer votre approche marketing et à répondre aux véritables besoins de vos clients ? Dans cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault vous plonge dans l'univers de l'utility marketing, une stratégie qui place la création de valeur utile au cœur de la relation client. Dans un monde où les consommateurs sont saturés de messages marketing, cette approche devient essentielle pour les marques souhaitant se démarquer et établir une connexion authentique avec leur audience. Florian explique comment les marques peuvent évoluer d'une simple stratégie de persuasion à une véritable stratégie d'aide, en devenant des facilitateurs qui offrent conseils, outils et services pertinents. L'utility marketing n'est pas qu'une tendance passagère ; c'est un levier stratégique incontournable pour renforcer la légitimité et la confiance envers une marque. À travers des exemples concrets et des études de cas, cet épisode explore les différentes facettes de cette approche, et comment elle peut transformer l'expérience client. En abordant des thèmes tels que les stratégies de vente, l'analyse des tendances et le marketing digital, Florian vous invite à repenser votre plan de communication et à intégrer des pratiques qui répondent réellement aux attentes des consommateurs. Que vous soyez un professionnel du marketing, un expert en communication, un dirigeant d'entreprise ou d'un service ou simplement curieux des tendances du marketing et communication, cet épisode vous fournira des conseils d'experts qui vous aideront à naviguer dans un paysage en constante évolution. Florian aborde également des questions clés pour construire une stratégie efficace d'utility marketing, tout en mettant en lumière l'importance du social listening et de l'engagement sur les réseaux. Avec l'essor des technologies comme le dooh et le sms rcs, il est plus crucial que jamais de comprendre comment ces outils peuvent être utilisés pour améliorer la communication d'entreprise et l'expérience client. Ne manquez pas cet épisode enrichissant qui vous incitera à repenser votre approche et à envisager l'utility marketing comme une clé pour l'avenir de votre marque. Écoutez L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION et découvrez comment devenir un acteur incontournable de la communication moderne, capable de répondre aux défis d'un marché en pleine mutation. suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociaux LinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true Site internet : net/">https://albatrosconseil. net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Jonathan Frohlinger, CEO of Big Happy, shares why creative remains advertising's biggest competitive advantage. From building high-impact 3D and CGI campaigns to discussing the future of mobile, digital out-of-home, and AI, Jonathan explains how brands can stand out in an increasingly crowded marketplace. Takeaways Jonathan shares his journey from Starcom and Verve to founding Big Happy. Why creative is still the biggest driver of advertising effectiveness. How CGI and 3D advertising help brands stand out and improve recall. Why emotion is processed before logic and what that means for marketers. The role of mobile and digital out-of-home in modern media strategies. Why creative matters more than targeting once the right audience is reached. How AI should enhance creativity instead of replacing it. Why brands should focus on outcomes instead of simply being "AI-powered." Leadership lessons from growing Big Happy over the past seven years. Advice for marketers looking to build successful careers in advertising and technology. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jonathan Frohlinger & Big Happy 01:08 Jonathan's journey into advertising and founding Big Happy 03:18 What Big Happy does and its unique value proposition 04:02 Why high-impact creative and CGI capture attention 06:45 The emotional science behind memorable advertising 08:03 Why brands buy on emotion but stay for performance 09:22 Mobile and digital out-of-home as growth channels 10:55 Creative vs. targeting: Which matters more? 12:20 The future of mobile advertising and media investment 15:25 What's next for mobile, DOOH, and ad tech 16:02 AI's impact on creativity and advertising workflows 19:40 AI hype versus real business value 24:20 Scaling Big Happy and building a strong company culture 27:02 Closing thoughts and farewell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Women's sports is having a moment as publishers, advertisers and the tech vendors in between try to capitalize on rising viewership. Digital out-of-home is having a moment, too.

Savez-vous que jusqu'à 4 millions d'auditeurs écoutent Radio Vinci Autoroutes chaque jour ? Dans ce nouvel épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault reçoit Hélène Lastella pour replonger dans l'univers fascinant de la publicité sur cette station emblématique, souvent qualifiée d'audience de la mobilité. Ensemble, ils analysent l'impact de la publicité radio sur la l'engagement et la mémorisation des marques et l'importance cruciale de la qualité des messages diffusés. Ils mettent en lumière les dangers de la saturation publicitaire et comment une stratégie de communication réfléchie peut transformer l'engagement des auditeurs.Au fil de la conversation, découvrez des données surprenantes sur l'audience de Radio Vinci Autoroutes. Avec 60 % des auditeurs déclarant s'informer sur les marques après avoir entendu leurs publicités, il est essentiel de comprendre comment maximiser l'impact de chaque campagne. Quelles sont les tendances du marketing à suivre ? Quels formats publicitaires, comme les billboards et les flashs infotrafic, s'avèrent les plus efficaces pour capter l'attention des auditeurs ? Florian et son invité répondent à ces questions tout en partageant des conseils d'experts en marketing pour optimiser votre plan de communication.Les discussions portent également sur les secteurs d'annonceurs performants et l'importance d'une approche stratégique en matière de communication. Que vous soyez un professionnel du marketing, un dircom en devenir ou simplement curieux des dernières tendances, cet épisode regorge d'analyses des médias et de décryptages des défis actuels. Ne manquez pas cette opportunité d'apprendre comment le marketing digital et l'influence marketing peuvent transformer votre expérience client, l'engagement de vos audiences et votre stratégie de vente.Plongez dans L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION et découvrez comment la publicité sur le 107.7 Radio Vinci Autoroutes peut révolutionner votre approche marketing. Que vous soyez intéressé par le sponsoring sportif, le marketing OOH (out of home) ou les dernières innovations en matière de CRM (customer relationship management), cet épisode vous fournira des insights précieux et des stratégies de communication percutantes pour l'avenir. Écoutez maintenant et engagez-vous dans une conversation enrichissante sur l'actualité marketing et les tendances événementielles qui façonnent notre quotidien.suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=trueSite internet : net/">https://albatrosconseil. net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Comment une radio dédiée à l'accompagnement des automobilistes peut-elle atteindre plus de 4 millions d'auditeurs lors des départs en vacances ?Dans ce nouvel épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault reçoit Hélène Lastella, directrice du pôle radio chez RF Publicité, pour explorer les coulisses de la 177 Radio Vinci Autoroute. Cette radio unique se distingue non seulement par son contenu informatif axé sur la sécurité routière et l'information de trafic, mais également par une programmation musicale variée qui séduit les conducteurs sur les autoroutes françaises.Au cours de cette conversation enrichissante, les auditeurs découvriront comment la 177 Radio Vinci Autoroute représente une opportunité stratégique pour les marques, en matière de publicité et de mémorisation en situation de mobilité. Avec des stratégies de vente innovantes et une analyse des médias pertinente, cet épisode met en lumière les défis et les succès du marketing dans un contexte de mobilité.Florian et Hélène abordent également des thèmes cruciaux tels que le marketing digital, le sponsoring sportif et les tendances du marketing. Ils discutent de l'importance du social listening et de l'influence marketing pour engager les auditeurs, tout en explorant les moyens d'améliorer l'expérience client grâce à des plateformes de marque et des stratégies de communication efficaces.Cette analyse des tendances actuelles et des défis du secteur offre des conseils d'experts en marketing, particulièrement pertinents pour ceux qui aspirent à devenir dircom ou à travailler dans une agence de communication.Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'écouter des insights précieux sur la communication d'entreprise et le monitoring de l'impact des campagnes publicitaires, notamment à travers le DOOH (digital out of home) et le OOH (out of home). Hélène explique également comment l'identité sonore et l'échantillonnage en marketing peuvent renforcer la connexion avec le public.Rejoignez-nous pour ce voyage fascinant au cœur de la communication et du marketing de mobilité, où chaque minute compte et où chaque auditeur est une opportunité.suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=trueSite internet : https://albatrosconseil.net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Comment une marque peut-elle attirer naturellement l'attention des consommateurs dans un monde saturé d'informations ? Dans cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, nous plongeons au cœur du concept fascinant de brand gravity, ou la force d'attraction d'une marque. Cet épisode est essentiel pour tous ceux qui souhaitent comprendre comment dépasser la simple notoriété pour bâtir une attractivité profonde et durable.Florian aborde les défis contemporains auxquels les marques sont confrontées dans un environnement où l'attention des consommateurs est un bien précieux. Il souligne que la visibilité et le bruit ne suffisent plus ; il est crucial de se concentrer sur des éléments tels que la clarté, la cohérence et la valeur perçue. En se basant sur des stratégies de vente éprouvées et une analyse des médias, il nous montre comment un positionnement clair et distinctif peut réduire la dépendance à des efforts de communication excessifs.À travers sept piliers fondamentaux, Florian explique comment construire cette brand gravity, en mettant un accent particulier sur l'expérience client, la preuve sociale et la désirabilité. Ces éléments sont cruciaux pour créer une plateforme de marque qui non seulement attire l'attention, mais établit également une relation de confiance avec les consommateurs.Que vous soyez un professionnel du marketing, un entrepreneur ou simplement curieux des tendances du marketing, cet épisode vous fournira des conseils d'experts en marketing qui vous aideront à naviguer dans le paysage complexe de la communication moderne.Enfin, Florian rappelle que dans un monde bruyant, les marques qui réussiront seront celles capables d'attirer naturellement l'attention et de susciter l'engagement sur les réseaux sociaux. Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'enrichir vos connaissances sur le podcast communication de marque et d'apprendre comment appliquer ces concepts à votre propre stratégie de communication.Rejoignez-nous pour découvrir comment transformer votre approche marketing et faire de votre marque une force d'attraction incontournable. Écoutez dès maintenant cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION et commencez à construire votre propre brand gravity !suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=trueSite internet : net/">https://albatrosconseil. net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Savez-vous que la gestion de crise peut révéler la véritable nature d'une entreprise ? Dans cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault et André-Stéphane Mahob Mbock, chercheur et auteur spécialisé en communication sensible, plongent au cœur du management de la relation, une approche indispensable qui redéfinit la manière dont les marques anticipent et traversent les turbulences.André-Stéphane nous révèle comment une gestion efficace ne se limite pas à des procédures rigides ou à des process de dernière minute, mais repose sur un capital relationnel solide construit bien avant la tempête. En s'appuyant sur son observation fine de la pandémie de COVID-19, il nous explique comment la confiance et l'écoute deviennent de véritables boucliers. Imaginez pouvoir compter sur le soutien de vos collaborateurs, de vos clients et de vos partenaires au moment où votre entreprise est la plus vulnérable !Au fil de la conversation, nous explorons des exemples concrets, allant des conflits sociaux à la gestion d'une crise cyber (comme celle de Bouygues Construction), illustrant comment l'immatériel et l'humain font toute la différence. André Stéphane partage également des conseils d'experts sur l'importance de la médiation d'entreprise et d'adopter des stratégies de communication transparentes pour se démarquer, où la RSE (Responsabilité Sociétale des Entreprises) et la conformité sont essentielles pour réussir sur le marché actuel.Ce podcast communication de marque vous offre un décryptage des tendances du marketing, du social listening sur les réseaux sociaux à l'influence marketing, en passant par le marketing digital et l'analyse des médias appliqués à la gestion de crise. Vous apprendrez à optimiser votre plan de communication, à piloter le monitoring de votre impact et à préserver l'expérience client. Les insights partagés dans cet épisode sont également précieux pour les professionnels cherchant à devenir dircom ou à évoluer dans le domaine de la communication d'entreprise.Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'enrichir vos connaissances sur la communication sensible et d'explorer comment des stratégies innovantes peuvent transformer vos défis en opportunités. Écoutez maintenant et préparez-vous à révolutionner votre approche de la gestion de crise !suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociaux LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/?viewAsMember=true Site internet : https://albatrosconseil.net/ Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Many corporate marketing groups struggle with low campaign relevance because they rely on generic ad layouts that fail to interest digital native buyers. Rogier Vijverberg, Chief Creative Officer and founder of SuperHeroes, details how to build agile content pipelines by structuring parallel creative collectives.He shares his operational playbook for choosing between automated generative AI art and camera-shot human documentaries, maximizing consumer attention in crowded public spaces, and linking physical retail spaces with dynamic out-of-home display networks.Key discussion topics include:Restructuring traditional agency models into specialized multi-tier creator networks.Managing brand safety risks by deciding when to deploy automated graphics vs. real-world film.Scaling physical visibility using interactive digital out-of-home (DOOH) canvas networks.Navigating creative shifts as big tech systems arrive at global corporate ad festivals.Transforming brick-and-mortar storefronts into interactive showrooms that guide buyers to digital channels.Guest Profile: Rogier Vijverberg is the Chief Creative Officer and founder of SuperHeroes, leading multi-hub agency teams and parallel creative networks across Europe and the United States.Connect & Scale Your Creative Pipelines:Follow Rogier Vijverberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogiervijverberg/Explore SuperHeroes agency: https://hellosuperheroes.com/Optimize Cross-Channel Performance ROI with Strike Social automation: https://strikesocial.com/guaranteed-paid-social-media-ads-outcomes/Connect with Host Dylan Conroy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanconroy/

Ari Paparo speaks with Grant Gudgel, Chief Marketing Officer at Locala, about adaptive advertising, AI-powered planning, location intelligence, omnichannel marketing, privacy, and how brands can improve campaign performance through localized insights. Takeaways Locala helps brands optimize campaigns using market-level insights instead of national averages. AI agents analyze local data to improve campaign planning and performance. The platform supports omnichannel activation across CTV, DOOH, mobile, audio, and more. Adaptive advertising enables brands to adjust budgets, messaging, and channels by market. Privacy and location intelligence remain central to Locala's long-term strategy. Chapters00:00 Introduction00:21 Grant Gudgel joins Locala as CMO00:37 What Locala does and its evolution01:30 Planning platform vs. traditional DSPs02:15 How brands optimize campaigns market by market03:37 Measuring campaign performance and learnings03:52 AI's role in campaign planning05:42 Solving complex retail and QSR marketing challenges07:08 What adaptive advertising means08:07 Location intelligence beyond retail09:30 Competitive analysis with location data09:58 Omnichannel planning with DOOH and CTV10:22 Privacy and location data11:05 Locala's goals at Cannes11:35 Competitive advantages and growth challenges12:21 Lightning round: Why Locala is a narwhal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of The MadTech Podcast, Terry Kane, managing director at The Trade Desk, joins ExchangeWire CEO Rachel Smith in Cannes to discuss ad tech in the MENA region.MENA's ad tech ecosystem is ascending in maturity. The region's cultural cycles and consumption patterns provide unique growth vectors, with strong momentum in open internet channels, CTV, retail data, telco-enabled identity, and DOOH. Education and local presence are needed to unlock value and shift budgets from walled gardens, while fragmented regulations make identity solutions a priority. Agentic AI is poised to help the region leapfrog stages of digital evolution, redefining discoverability, performance, and the advertising value chain. Over the next 3-5 years, agents will drive omnichannel planning and enable regional brands' global expansion. As consumer discovery shifts to LLMs, prompting becomes a core marketing lever, while backend AI will redefine scale and profitability in programmatic. •••We're delighted to be heading to MENA for our first ever ATS Dubai event in November. If you're interested in commercial opportunities at the event, contact sales@thewirecorp.com.•••0:00 Introduction1:09 MENA ad tech growth & maturity 3:09 Challenges and driving issues in MENA market5:54 MENA cultural approaches and fragmentation9:00 Opportunities for growth across the open internet12:54 MENA activations vs. other regions15:55 Future of MENA advertising & ad tech 20:21 LLMs and changing consumer behaviour

Werbung war lange Zeit eine Art Rückspiegel: Wir analysieren, was Menschen gekauft haben, was sie geklickt haben, wonach sie gesucht haben – und versuchen daraus abzuleiten, was sie morgen interessieren könnte. Aber was wäre, wenn wir eine andere Frage stellen sollten? Kaufentscheidungen entstehen oft situativ - in Bedarfsmomenten. Lars Hilsebein ist Geschäftsführer von cynapsis media und hat mit „Programmatiq“ eine Plattform entwickelt, die situative Signale wie Wetter, Events, Gesundheitstrends, Verkehrs- oder Flugdaten programmatisch nutzbar macht. Er erklärt im OOH! Podcast warum situatives Targeting möglicherweise der nächste große Entwicklungsschritt in der Werbewelt ist – und welche Rolle OOH und DOOH dabei spielen.

Patrick Dolan, COO of the Out of Home Advertising Association of America (OAAA), joins Ari Paparo to discuss the rapid evolution of out-of-home advertising. From digital billboards and programmatic buying to retail media integration, CTV convergence, measurement challenges, and the growing role of AI, Patrick explains why out-of-home is experiencing renewed growth and how marketers can take advantage of its expanding capabilities. Takeaways OOH has grown for 19 consecutive quarters and continues to set revenue records. Digital OOH now represents 36% of total OOH revenue. Programmatic buying is making OOH more accessible to modern marketers. Retail media and OOH are increasingly converging around the path to purchase. Measurement standards continue to evolve with industry collaboration. CTV and OOH are creating new hybrid advertising opportunities. AI is improving workflows, planning, and campaign execution across OOH. National advertisers increasingly view OOH as part of omnichannel campaigns. Standardization and taxonomy remain key industry priorities. OOH benefits from strong real-world visibility and consumer attention. Chapters 00:00 Cannes Travel & AdTech Tuxedo Discussion07:18 Introduction to Patrick Dolan and OOH Advertising09:20 What OOH, DOOH, and Industry Acronyms Mean10:54 Current State of the OOH Industry12:11 Digital OOH Growth and Programmatic Adoption15:02 How Advertisers Buy and Plan OOH Campaigns15:58 Measurement Challenges and Attribution18:03 The Convergence of OOH and Connected TV19:48 Retail Media's Expanding Role in OOH22:11 Connecting In-Store and Out-of-Store Media24:11 AI's Impact on OOH Advertising26:07 AI, Automation, and Workflow Improvements28:03 Lessons from Digital Advertising's Early Days30:01 The Future of AI and OOH30:51 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks Guests: Ari Paparo, Patrick Dolan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Craig Benner, Founder & CEO of Accretive, joins the AdTechGod Pod to discuss the future of Digital Out of Home (DOOH), measurement, attribution, media buying, and why brands are increasingly investing in high-impact advertising beyond traditional digital channels. Takeaways DOOH remains one of the most underinvested channels despite its massive reach. Measurement has historically been the biggest challenge for out-of-home advertising. Accretive helps connect physical-world exposure to digital outcomes. Better attribution drives greater confidence and media investment. Search often captures intent rather than creating it. Out-of-home excels at generating awareness and demand. Brands are shifting budgets from linear TV into measurable alternatives. Mobility data plays a key role in audience targeting and measurement. Media Mix Modeling is helping validate the value of DOOH. Retail media presents a major opportunity for out-of-home advertising. AI and standardization are accelerating industry adoption. Education remains critical for broader DOOH growth. Chapters00:00 Meet Craig Benner and Accretive 01:09 From Viant to founding Accretive 02:06 Discovering the opportunity in DOOH 03:45 Why out-of-home should command more ad spend 04:40 The measurement-first philosophy behind Accretive 05:47 Solving attribution challenges in DOOH 07:12 Which advertisers benefit most from out-of-home 08:49 How audience targeting works in DOOH 10:33 Measuring foot traffic, web lift, and outcomes 11:09 Where today's DOOH budgets come from 12:45 The industry's overreliance on lower-funnel marketing 13:51 Why out-of-home creates demand and intent 15:32 Giving DOOH the credit it deserves 16:53 How measurement changes media allocation decisions 18:01 The reality of search and retargeting attribution 19:49 The future of digital out-of-home advertising 20:46 AI, MMMs, and industry standardization 21:47 Educating agencies and media buyers 24:14 Retail media and the "last inch" opportunity 25:40 Resources for learning more about DOOH 26:52 Final thoughts and closing remarks Guests: AdTechGod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Êtes-vous prêt à découvrir comment transformer un simple trajet en une expérience marketing inoubliable ? Dans cet épisode captivant de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault et Julie Amico, experte en stratégie de communication terrain chez RFE Publicité, plongent au cœur du Trip Marketing, une approche révolutionnaire qui redéfinit la manière dont les marques interagissent avec leurs clients pendant leurs déplacements quotidiens ou lors de leurs vacances.Julie nous révèle comment le Trip Marketing permet d'intégrer des campagnes publicitaires dans des lieux stratégiques tels que les autoroutes, les bus et les aéroports, créant ainsi des moments de contact uniques avec les consommateurs. En utilisant des tickets de péage personnalisés et des animations sur les aires d'autoroute, les marques peuvent toucher des familles dans un contexte détendu, propice à l'écoute et à l'expérimentation de nouveaux produits. Imaginez pouvoir capter l'attention d'un client potentiel au moment où il est le plus réceptif !Au fil de la conversation, nous explorons des exemples concrets d'opérations réussies, comme celles de Volkswagen et des Repas Plaisir, illustrant comment le Trip Marketing peut se révéler être un levier puissant pour les marques. Julie partage également des conseils d'experts en marketing sur l'importance d'adopter des stratégies de communication efficaces pour se démarquer sur le marché actuel, où l'analyse des médias et le monitoring de l'impact sont essentiels pour réussir.Ce podcast communication de marque vous offre un décryptage des tendances du marketing, du sponsoring sportif à l'influence marketing, en passant par le marketing digital et l'ooh (out of home). Vous apprendrez à optimiser votre plan de communication et à tirer parti du crm (customer relationship management) pour renforcer l'expérience client. Les insights partagés dans cet épisode sont également précieux pour les professionnels cherchant à devenir dircom ou à évoluer dans le domaine de la communication d'entreprise.Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'enrichir vos connaissances sur le Trip Marketing et d'explorer comment des stratégies innovantes peuvent transformer vos campagnes. Écoutez maintenant et préparez-vous à révolutionner votre approche marketing !suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/?viewAsMember=trueSite internet : https://albatrosconseil.net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

En matière de communication, combien de messages passent inaperçus chaque jour à cause de la surinformation ? Dans cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault nous plonge dans le monde du slow marketing, une stratégie qui prône une communication plus réfléchie et moins intrusive.Ce concept novateur vise à réduire la surcommunication des marques afin de mieux capter l'attention des consommateurs, qui sont de plus en plus sollicités par des messages répétitifs et souvent sans valeur ajoutée.Florian souligne avec pertinence que le véritable défi n'est pas l'absence de visibilité des marques, mais leur tendance à s'exprimer trop fréquemment, diluant ainsi l'impact de leur message. Le slow marketing ne signifie pas moins de communication, mais une communication de meilleure qualité, centrée sur la valeur ajoutée de chaque interaction. Dans un univers saturé de contenus, il devient impératif de se poser la question : qu'apporte réellement chaque message à notre audience ?Au fil de cet épisode, nous découvrons des exemples inspirants de marques françaises, telles que 1083 et Le Slip Français, qui incarnent cette approche en mettant l'accent sur la durabilité et la cohérence dans leur communication. Ces marques illustrent parfaitement comment le slow marketing peut transformer une simple stratégie de communication en un véritable levier de fidélisation et de préférence client. En effet, la performance ne se mesure pas uniquement à court terme, mais également à la qualité des relations établies avec les clients.Florian nous invite également à réfléchir à la valeur que nous apportons à nos clients et à construire des relations de confiance durables. Que vous soyez un professionnel du marketing, un entrepreneur ou simplement curieux des tendances du marketing, cet épisode vous fournira des conseils d'experts en marketing pour optimiser votre stratégie de communication. Découvrez comment le slow marketing peut s'intégrer dans votre plan de communication global et comment il peut influencer votre approche des réseaux sociaux, du marketing digital et même du sponsoring sportif.Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'explorer les profondeurs du slow marketing avec L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION de Florian Grimault. Écoutez cet épisode et transformez votre vision de la communication de marque, en adoptant des stratégies qui privilégient l'engagement et la valeur sur la simple quantité. Que vous soyez en quête de nouvelles tendances ou que vous souhaitiez améliorer votre expérience client, cet épisode est fait pour vous !suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=trueSite internet : net/">https://albatrosconseil. net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

In this episode of the AdTechGod Pod, Simon Powell, CEO of HELI-D, shares how his company is redefining out-of-home advertising with flying digital billboards attached to helicopters. From launching campaigns for MTV, Disney, Pepsi, Xbox, and VaynerX to creating immersive aerial activations that generate massive earned media, Simon breaks down the future of flying digital media and why emotional, high-impact advertising still matters. The conversation explores the evolution of aerial advertising, the technology powering HELI-D's LED helicopter screens, QR code engagement at massive live events, and what comes next for digital out-of-home, including drones and integrated media experiences. Takeaways - HELI-D evolved from traditional helicopter banners into fully digital flying LED billboards. - Simon Powell transitioned from investment banking into aviation and advertising entrepreneurship. - Early innovation included projection technology that turned helicopter banners into flying cinema screens. - HELI-D's breakthrough campaign debuted at the MTV VMAs with Viacom in 2016. - Disney partnered with HELI-D for large-scale experiential aerial activations. - The company has executed campaigns for Pepsi, Star Trek, Catch-22, Xbox, and VaynerX. - COVID accelerated the development of HELI-D's scalable LED screen technology. - The aerial ads create strong emotional reactions because of their size, movement, sound, and visibility. - HELI-D campaigns generate significant earned media through social sharing and inbound audience engagement. - QR code campaigns achieved massive interaction rates at live sporting events like the Melbourne Cup. - HELI-D partnered with Blue Bite for mobile retargeting and shadow fencing at Possible. - Xbox used Heli-D to create a flying live gaming experience with zero-latency gameplay. - Simon believes flying digital media will eventually include drones as lift and battery technology improves. - HELI-D sees itself as a premium “wow factor” integrated into broader DOOH campaigns rather than a standalone medium. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to HELI-D and the POSSIBLE event activation 00:46 – Simon Powell's background in investment banking and aviation 01:34 – The origin of helicopter banner advertising 02:12 – Creating the first digital aerial projection system 03:26 – Pitching Viacom and launching at the MTV VMAs 04:18 – Disney partnership and major aerial campaigns 04:47 – Pepsi Super Bowl activations and entertainment stunts 05:01 – Star Trek, Catch-22, and large-scale aerial experiences 05:54 – COVID's impact and developing HELI-D's LED technology 06:51 – AdTechGod's firsthand experience with the helicopter billboard 08:22 – Emotional impact and audience reactions to aerial advertising 09:06 – QR code engagement success at the Melbourne Cup 10:33 – Earned media and viral audience response 12:22 – Metrics, retargeting, and campaign measurement 13:16 – Xbox Ninja Gaiden activation and live gameplay in the sky 14:53 – The future of DOOH, drones, and flying digital media 16:39 – Cannes plans and future expansion for HELI-D Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Le sampling est-il vraiment obsolète dans un monde dominé par le digital ? Dans ce nouvel épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault et Julie Amico nous révèlent que cette technique marketing, souvent sous-estimée, connaît en réalité un retour en force. Bien plus qu'une simple distribution d'échantillons, le sampling moderne se transforme en expériences de marque engageantes et mémorables, créant un lien authentique entre les marques et les consommateurs.Au fil de la discussion, ils explorent les stratégies de vente innovantes qui intègrent le sampling, tout en mettant en lumière les raisons qui motivent cette renaissance. Face à une saturation publicitaire croissante, les consommateurs recherchent des expériences tangibles et significatives. Julie Amico souligne l'importance d'une approche réfléchie et contextuelle, où chaque opération de sampling devient une stratégie de communication essentielle dans le paysage marketing actuel.Julie et Florian abordent également les défis que rencontrent les marques dans l'élaboration de leur plan de communication. Ils discutent des tendances du marketing, notamment l'impact du marketing digital et des réseaux sociaux, tout en intégrant des éléments de social listening pour mieux comprendre les attentes des consommateurs.Le podcast offre des conseils d'experts en marketing, en analysant les performances des campagnes et en décryptant les tendances événementielles actuelles.En conclusion, cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION démontre que le sampling n'est pas seulement un outil de distribution, mais un véritable levier d'engagement. Les marques doivent s'adapter et repenser leur approche pour créer des moments inoubliables qui captivent leur audience. Ne manquez pas cette opportunité d'en apprendre davantage sur l'échantillonnage en marketing et de découvrir comment il peut transformer votre stratégie d'influence marketing et de communication d'entreprise.Rejoignez-nous pour cette exploration fascinante des nouvelles frontières du marketing et de la communication, et découvrez comment le sampling peut redéfinir l'expérience client dans un monde en constante évolution.suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/?viewAsMember=trueSite internet : https://albatrosconseil.net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Savez-vous que le 107.7 Radio VINCI Autoroutes attire en moyenne 1,7 million d'auditeurs par jour en semaine, représentant une audience impressionnante de 29% ? Dans cet épisode de L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION, Florian Grimault reçoit Hélène Lastella, directrice du pôle radio chez RFE Publicités / 107.7 Radio VINCI Autoroutes, pour explorer l'importance stratégique de la radio au-delà des vacances. Ensemble, ils mettent en lumière les opportunités inestimables qu'offre ce média, souvent perçu à tort comme un simple outil estival.Au fil de la discussion, Hélène révèle comment la radio peut devenir un levier puissant pour vos stratégies de vente, en touchant un public en mouvement, dans un contexte d'attention élevé. Grâce à une analyse approfondie des médias, ils décryptent les différents segments d'audience, notamment les actifs et les CSP+, et comment ces données peuvent orienter vos campagnes publicitaires. La radio, loin d'être un média secondaire, se révèle être un acteur incontournable dans le paysage du marketing digital, capable de s'intégrer dans un plan de communication global.Ce podcast est une véritable mine d'or pour les professionnels du marketing, les agences de communication et tous ceux qui souhaitent affiner leur stratégie de communication. Avec des conseils d'experts en marketing et en communication, vous découvrirez comment optimiser votre plan média et utiliser des outils modernes comme le social listening et l'influence marketing pour engager votre audience. Ne manquez pas cette occasion d'apprendre et même de combattre les idées reçues sur le 107.7 Radio VINCI Autoroutes => l'atout majeur dans votre plan média.En outre, cet épisode aborde des thèmes clés tels que le monitoring de l'impact des campagnes, l'analyse des performances podcast et les tendances événementielles qui façonnent l'avenir du marketing. Hélène et Florian partagent également des réflexions sur l'évolution des médias et comment le dooh et l'évènementiel transforment notre manière de communiquer. Que vous soyez un professionnel aguerri ou un novice dans le domaine, cet épisode vous offre des insights précieux et une vision claire des défis et opportunités actuels du marketing.Rejoignez-nous pour cette discussion enrichissante et découvrez comment L'Instant MARKETING COMMUNICATION peut vous aider à naviguer dans les complexités de votre plan média et bien plus encore. Écoutez dès maintenant et transformez votre approche de la communication !suivez L'instant Marketing Communication de Florian GRIMAULT sur les réseaux sociauxLinkedIn linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=true">https://www. linkedin. com/company/l-instant-marketing-communication-de-florian-grimault/? viewAsMember=trueSite internet : net/">https://albatrosconseil. net/Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Digital out-of-home spend will surpass static billboards within five years. Alex Weinberger, General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, explains how programmatic buying has transformed outdoor advertising into a measurable, targetable channel. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection across venues from gyms to airports, attribution methods including foot traffic tracking and brand lift studies, and creative strategies that maximize the four-second attention window with bold visuals and minimal text.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home spend will surpass static billboards within five years. Alex Weinberger, General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, explains how programmatic buying has transformed outdoor advertising into a measurable, targetable channel. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection across venues from gyms to airports, attribution methods including foot traffic tracking and brand lift studies, and creative strategies that maximize the four-second attention window with bold visuals and minimal text.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketers think billboards are just brand awareness plays. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of Digital Out-of-Home at AdRoll, where he's leading the launch of programmatic DOOH across their growth marketing platform. The conversation covers using geofencing to target decision-makers at their headquarters with dayparted campaigns, leveraging foot traffic attribution to measure real-world conversions, and building omnichannel strategies that connect DOOH exposure to retargeting campaigns across display and CTV.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketers think billboards are just brand awareness plays. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of Digital Out-of-Home at AdRoll, where he's leading the launch of programmatic DOOH across their growth marketing platform. The conversation covers using geofencing to target decision-makers at their headquarters with dayparted campaigns, leveraging foot traffic attribution to measure real-world conversions, and building omnichannel strategies that connect DOOH exposure to retargeting campaigns across display and CTV.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising lacks programmatic targeting capabilities. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic media and full-funnel advertising strategies. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection, device exposure tracking within preset radiuses around digital screens, and attribution methods including foot traffic analysis and brand lift studies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising lacks programmatic targeting capabilities. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic media and full-funnel advertising strategies. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection, device exposure tracking within preset radiuses around digital screens, and attribution methods including foot traffic analysis and brand lift studies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising lacks proper attribution and targeting capabilities. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of Digital Out-of-Home at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic DOOH media buying and full-funnel campaign strategies. The discussion covers programmatic real-time bidding for screen selection across roadside billboards and place-based venues like gyms and restaurants, foot traffic attribution using device proximity measurement within preset radiuses, and omnichannel retargeting by connecting exposed devices to display and CTV campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising lacks proper attribution and targeting capabilities. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of Digital Out-of-Home at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic DOOH media buying and full-funnel campaign strategies. The discussion covers programmatic real-time bidding for screen selection across roadside billboards and place-based venues like gyms and restaurants, foot traffic attribution using device proximity measurement within preset radiuses, and omnichannel retargeting by connecting exposed devices to display and CTV campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising is becoming programmatically targetable and measurable. Alex Weinberger, General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, explains how programmatic buying has transformed traditional billboards into a full-funnel marketing channel. The conversation covers real-time bidding for screen selection across 97 venue types, attribution methods including foot traffic and brand lift studies, and retargeting capabilities that connect physical world exposure to digital follow-up campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising is becoming programmatically targetable and measurable. Alex Weinberger, General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, explains how programmatic buying has transformed traditional billboards into a full-funnel marketing channel. The conversation covers real-time bidding for screen selection across 97 venue types, attribution methods including foot traffic and brand lift studies, and retargeting capabilities that connect physical world exposure to digital follow-up campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising is becoming programmatically targetable and measurable. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic media and revenue growth strategies. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection, device-level exposure tracking for attribution, and multi-channel retargeting capabilities that connect physical world impressions to digital follow-up campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Digital out-of-home advertising is becoming programmatically targetable and measurable. Alex Weinberger is General Manager of DOOH at AdRoll, specializing in programmatic media and revenue growth strategies. The discussion covers real-time bidding for screen selection, device-level exposure tracking for attribution, and multi-channel retargeting capabilities that connect physical world impressions to digital follow-up campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

How digital out of home is turning visibility into measurable action and why marketers are paying closer attention.Out of home (OOH) advertising has long been known for visibility. Increasingly, however, it is proving to drive real consumer action.In this episode of the Leading Local Insights Podcast, Dave Rivera, VP of Channel Partnerships at Vistar Media, joins BIA's Celine Matthiessen to discuss the rapid evolution of digital out of home (DOOH) and why more advertisers are prioritizing it in their media mix.BIA's latest U.S. Local Advertising Forecast shows OOH spending growing more than 3% annually, with 5% growth expected between 2025 and 2026, and DOOH representing about 42% of total OOH spending.Rivera explains that OOH often acts as a conversation starter for brands, prompting consumers to search and engage after encountering a message in the real world. In many campaigns, DOOH exposure drives measurable results, including search lifts of up to 80%, while strengthening engagement across social, display, and CTV. Because it reaches people naturally as they go about their day—rather than interrupting them online—OOH today is not just seen, it's acted on.

Despite the narrative that traditional media is shrinking, one channel continues to grow. In this episode, Gordon & Corey explore why out-of-home advertising is defying gravity and how new technology is opening the door for more SMBs to buy. The show features an interview with out-of-home expert Dave Rivera from Vistar Media, which is making Digital OOH widely available through its programmatic platform. Stay in the loop with all things Borrell when you join our Research Alert Lists. As always, thank you for listening. If you like the episode, leave us a review!  Want to join the conversation? Share your comments at borrellassociates.com/podcast.

Klarna "AI-first", le High-Tech perce sur TikTok Shop et le séisme du SaaS.Dans ce 258ème épisode, Laetitia et Adrien décryptent la transformation radicale de la rentabilité : quand l'IA ne se contente plus d'aider, mais remplace et vend. Entre le pari fou de Klarna pour son introduction en Bourse et l'explosion des paniers moyens sur TikTok Shop, le retail bascule dans une nouvelle ère d'efficacité.Au programme de cet épisode :

It’s a fast but mighty 20 minute bonus episode of Insider Interviews! Took my “she-cam” on another* spontaneous journey through the Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2026) to speak with six different women, of six different tech and media areas. They provided first-hand insights on #AI, content, and advertising. These industry leaders span audio, advertising and age tech, sports, streaming, and out of home, so there’s really something for everyone! Quick coverage bites include: Vobble at CES • A snippet about ‘Vobble,’ an interactive audio device that lets kids build stories; MY sound didn’t do it justice, but your kid might love it IRL (and you might love it as a bedtime story aid!) • A walk through the innovations for better health and aging in place via the Age Tech Collaborative from AARP, thanks to their VP of Startup Programming, Amelia Hay. A la this being an episode with all women in tech and media, as Amelia said of the Collaborative: “We have over 200 startups in the collaborative, and probably 40% are women founders… I think we’re really pushing that envelope and putting our stake in the ground in technology.” (PS: did I mention I’d love that sleep-helper AND the hearing-helping eyeglasses from EssilorLuxotica on display there?!) BrightLine Interactive Ads • I got a lesson in the history of ad innovations and how to apply “Changemaker” thinking, from Brightline (and SustainChain) founder, and now author, Jacqueline Corbelli, who I call “the doyenne of interactive advertising!” A simple summary of “changemaker” playbook is what Jacquie has done her entire career: “Think about what you want and go further…” • A chat with the dual founder of Sports Studio, Inc. and Rasenberger Media, Cathy Rasenberger , illuminated how her freshman streaming platform is scoring distribution wins, perhaps because it’s appropriately named “Free Live Sports“?! FreeLive Sports Cheers to them for “aggregating more free sports content than any other platform… We’re democratizing sports for all the fans.” • Stacy Minero, newly named CMO of Outfront Media, and Erin Harris, Head of Fluency Sales for SiriusXM, explain changes in their now UNtraditional mediums and how they each are leveraging AI to power creative and efficient DOOH advertising and audio content, respectively. Erin noted that, “We still see the strongest performance with human voice, but we’re extremely excited about AI in terms of helping us find little levers to pull, to make things more personal.”  And as Stacy added: “There’s a huge opportunity for AI to unlock productivity, especially in the area of post-production… to do some of the grunt work so that people can focus on the fun work.” AI meets Outfront Media We say, “YES!” Don't miss out on learning from each of these powerhouse women and their compelling companies. *And don’t miss my last full episode — also captured at CES — with executives in audio, video and brand marketing! Connect with E.B. Moss and Insider Interviews: With Media & Marketing Experts            LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews Substack: Moss Hysteria Please follow Insider Interviews, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal!  THANK YOU for listening!

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In the latest episode of the IAB Australia Podcast, CEO Gai Le Roy engages with industry experts Henry Hellegas, Sales Director of Perion, and Lee Foster, Head of Product at Nunn Media. Together, they delve into the evolution of programmatic digital out of home advertising, discussing the significant growth in agency adoption and the challenges of understanding this dynamic medium. Discover their unique career journeys, gain insights into the importance of dynamic creative optimisation, and learn actionable strategies to effectively leverage programmatic buying for impactful advertising campaigns. Listen now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-97-andy-clough-richard-mcgrannGood things come to those who wait … and we've been waiting a while for Andy Clough & Richard McGrann, but it was thoroughly worth it. Andy & Rich are one of adland's most brilliant and prolific teams, creating iconic award-winning work wherever they've worked. RKCR / Y&R, BBH, AMVBBDO, adam&eveDDB and Neverland have all benefited from their passion for big ideas, superbly executed. They've won awards wherever they've been, including 5 Grand Prix for their emotive ‘The Last Photo' campaign for CALM, placing them amongst the world's most awarded creatives at D&AD and Cannes.In a packed episode, we talked about The Times ‘Biggest For Sport' campaign and got a sneak peek into Andy's notebook and his sketches which were incredibly close to the finished work.For The Last Photo we discovered the inspiration for the big idea came in part from a Google search for ‘depression / suicide'. Every result had people sad, head in hands, in a dark place. The question was asked, what if people looked happy? Like a weight had been lifted, because they had decided to take the next step. This lead to the line ‘Suicide doesn't always look suicidal' and the concept of the last photo featuring real people. It's an incredibly moving story and a worthy follow up to the previous year's Project84 from Ant & Mike.We went into the wild with Whiskas, Feeding Your Cat's Instinct, which naturally won an outdoor Lion ;-)While for The Economist, for once we didn't discuss white headlines out of red, instead a thought provoking piece of DOOH on the subject of assisted suicide.Another important project was for Melanoma, more great crafting a simple graphic idea. And of course we found out how pot holes help create a great poster campaign for Pot Noodle.Gents, it was a total pleasure. So much amazing work for such a range of brands and projects, a tour de force in the great outdoors. Thank you so much.Thanks to our sponsorsBauer Media OutdoorView2FillSuper OptimalGAS Music

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Helen Miall - Chief Marketing Officer, VIOOH As CMO at VIOOH, the leading premium digital out of home (DOOH) supply side platform, Helen is responsible for global marketing strategy, thought leadership and supporting the expansion and adoption of programmatic DOOH worldwide. She is committed to helping the OOH industry transition to audience-led and programmatic trading, maximising the opportunities for OOH with the wider digital media landscape. Helen has previously held senior marketing roles at Parkopedia, O2 (Telefónica UK), Turn, and Microsoft Advertising. Whilst at adtech company Turn, Helen set up and ran marketing across the EMEA region, helping grow programmatic display from c10% to a majority share of market spend. Helen spent the first 9 years of her career in various marketing roles at United Airlines and Air France.

This week's # LocationWeekly episode features stories from German startup Framen expanding its DOOH network to North America, UK-based Drive Stories launching an AI-powered audio travel app, Deliveroo launching high-speed drone deliveries in Ireland, and Champs reinventing stores by blending digital & physical. Tune in now!

Sean is CEO of the new Destination Media and GSTV. He was recruited to lead the next generation of growth following a joint venture announcement that combined the assets and operations of Verifone's media division with the former Gas Station TV, owned by Detroit-based Rockbridge Growth Equity and Falcon Investment Advisors.  The combined business now operates under the GSTV brand and deliver 3.3 billion brand safe 1-to-1 annual impressions from over 29,000+ locations in all 50 states.Sean previously served as EVP – Strategy & Partnerships at Clear Channel Outdoor, Americas. While at CCO he led all strategic revenue activity with leading agency and brand partners and pioneered new product and partnership approaches to OOH, DOOH and integrated media campaigns. He's been continually focused on driving business results by understanding the evolution of media, the consumer journey and behavioral insights by using data, technology and the power of content to drive brand and consumer engagement. While at Clear Channel he also led industry sales and marketing initiatives across verticals, integrated sales partnerships, industry events such as Cannes Lions, CES, ANA events and so on and he has been a featured speaker and writer. He also led global client outreach & strategy which created first-to-market global client and agency partnerships across technology, fashion, beverages and more as well leading global agency holding companies.Prior to his last role, Sean held a variety of executive sales and marketing positions across North American regions. He began his career at a private-equity backed media company which ultimately grew to a 9-figure IPO and subsequent acquisition and consolidation of an industry sector. Working for both small and large organizations and public and private ownership, he has a broad point-of-view of managing organizational change, integration, business growth strategy, team strategy development and collaborative leadership and vision.

 In this episode of OOH Insider, host Tim Rowe sits down with K.C. McLeod of VideoElephant to unpack how content—not just ad inventory—is shaping the future of Digital Out of Home (DOOH). Who Should Listen:Publishers looking to monetize idle or underperforming screen inventoryAdvertisers & Brands eager to stretch their CTV strategy into the physical worldAd Tech Leaders navigating the evolving standards between DOOH and programmatic videoStrategists & Planners who love blending performance, storytelling, and efficiencyWhat You'll Learn:The Secret to Better Screens: Why filling DOOH screens with premium, short-form video content is creating more engagement—and new revenue—for screen owners.CTV Meets DOOH: How VideoElephant is helping bridge the education gap for advertisers by reframing DOOH as CTV outside the living room—and what that means for monetization.The Measurement Moment: From tequila campaigns to political ads, hear how content-rich environments drive higher recall (+84% lift!) and why measurement standards are still evolving.Big Ideas & Soundbites:“These are CTV screens—just not in the living room.” – K.C. McLeod, on bringing familiar CTV buying logic to DOOH environments.“Content isn't just a filler—it's the lever that makes your media mix resonate.” – Tim Rowe, on why content-first strategy matters in high-attention spaces.“Sometimes the best measurement is the check the publisher gets and the content the audience stays to watch.” – K.C. McLeod, on balancing technical measurement with real-world impact.Where to Go Next:Visit: VideoElephant.comContact K.C.: kc@videoelephant.comConnect on LinkedIn: K.C. McLeodExplore related episodes:

Big Happy CEO Jonathan Frohlinger joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss how he got a mobile creative tech business off the ground, learnings in GTM and hiring from his agency days, and what an adtech moat looks like in the AI era. Plus, Jon shares some news: Big Happy's expansion from mobile to DOOH.

First, Eric shares a prediction from Anthropic's CEO on AI-fueled labor disruption and examines how that will affect jobs in advertising, media, and adtech. Then, Joe shares his critique of romanticizing the open web and clarifies three things adtech companies should be thinking about when considering the future of the open web: what consumers want, what advertisers want, and websites vs CTV, audio, and DOOH.