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In this Episode Derry Breaks down 3 principles to avoiding burnout. From Self-Awareness, to Working Genius to Sabbathing Well this episode has it all! Derry's take on Vacationing is worth the entire episode.

 What if you could unlock a deeper understanding of how you work best in ministry? What if a simple tool could help you and your team thrive instead of just survive? In this episode of Student Ministry Connection, Steve talks with veteran youth pastor and ministry coach Derry Prenkert about the power of ministry coaching, the Working Genius assessment, and how these tools can help you lead with greater clarity and confidence.     Links referenced in this episode:  Check out Derry's website at https://www.derryprenkert.com  Follow Derry on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/derryprenkert  Email Derry at derry.prenkert@standingstoneministry.org  Sign up for the Youth Ministry Leader Cohort at https://www.ymlcohort.com  Email the podcast at studentministryconnection@gmail.com  Join our beta Discord server at https://discord.gg/WXtS7BaGAU  Learn more about Steve's ministry with NNYM at http://nnym.org/stevecullum  Sign up to get Steve's newsletter at https://bit.ly/cullumnewsletter  Support the ministry by giving online at https://bit.ly/cullumsupport  Contact Steve about partnerships, speaking, coaching, or consulting at https://bit.ly/cullumcontact  Read Steve's blog at https://stevecullum.com  Follow Steve on Twitter: https://twitter.com/stevecullum  Follow Student Ministry Connection on Instagram: https://instagram.com/studentministryconnection    Be sure to join us in prayer for revival every Wednesday at 11am PT, 12pm MT, 1pm CT, 2pm ET.    Get a copy of the Cards Christians Like card game by using the link https://bit.ly/cardschristianslike and also support Student Ministry Connection.    Note: Some of the links above are affiliate links. By clicking them, Steve may receive commission to support this ministry.    Subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Links to the more popular ones are at https://linktr.ee/studentministryconnection     If you like what you hear, be sure to like, subscribe, share, and comment! Thanks, be sure to get connected, and may God bless your ministry!    

Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Derry Prenkert and talks about the almost unavoidable situation of loneliness that can appear during times of ministry and how to go about dealing with and avoiding it. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also love to hear from you! What is your tidbit of advice that you would add to the conversation? You can listen to this episode on all your preferred podcast providers. We would also love to have you join the conversation if you would like to be on the show!  Shoot us a message on social media (@talkstudentmin) or an email (podcast@studentministryconversations.org) to get a time set for you to be on the show.  Show notes can be found on our website: www.studentministryconversations.org  Video for this episode can be found here: ⁠https://youtu.be/09BoPv-RFCQ Connect With SMC  Instagram – @talkstudentmin  Twitter – @talkstudentmin Facebook – @talkstudentmin  Youtube - "Student Ministry Conversations" Connect With The Hosts  Russell Martin – @rgmmusic Brent Aiken – @heybrentaiken  David Pruitt - @pruacoustic  Support the Podcast!  Buy Our Merch! www.studentministryconversations.org/shop --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/talkstudentmin/message

This morning we are blessed to hear from Derry Prenkert. Derry serves with Standing Stone Ministry, a non-profit organization that provides free and confidential coaching, consultation, and care to church leaders. He also serves in...

SUMMARY In this episode, Nick sits down with his friend, Derry Prenkert, a 20+ year youth ministry veteran. Derry shares about the monumental shift of the invention of the smart phone. How things were before, and how things have shifted, but most importantly, how we utilize this technology for our benefit and gain to reach more students for the mission of Jesus. Follow us on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/hybridministry Find all the resources you need from the podcast http://www.hybridministry.xyz Follow Derry online: -TWITTER: https://twitter.com/derryprenkert -INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/derryprenkert/ -PODCAST: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-third-decade-in-youth-ministry/id1338273697 SHOWNOTES Steve Job's introduction of the iPhone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4 Derry's Parenting Resource: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/p/adolescence%2C-technology-and-parenting/training-3996.html Johnny Mac's Stuff: https://yourhouseblend.com/jonnysblend TIMECODES 00:00-03:30 Intro 03:30-10:53 The impact of the invention of the iPhone 10:53-14:30 What happened in ministry after the invention of the iPhone 14:30-23:20 How have you responded since then? 23:20-32:44 When do you ask phones to be put away? 32:44-41:23 How can we utilize technology now to further and advance God's mission? 41:23-43:38 Outro TRANSCRIPT Nick Clason (00:00): What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry podcast. Excited to be with you today. Uh, today we have our very first, uh, guest interview, uh, friend of mine Derry Pinker. He's located in, um, Amish town, Nape Indiana. Um, right now, uh, he worked at that church for over 20 years, and then he was at another church for just a couple years, super large church in, uh, Kentucky. So, um, excited to bring you Derry's conversation. Uh, he mentions a couple of different links. He talks about Steve Jobs' keynote, a resource that he has on download youth ministry and echo ministry. I'm gonna include all of those in the show notes, but without any further ado, let's just hop in so you can get to know Derry. Nick Clason (00:51): All right, well, what's up Derry? Good to have you on the podcast. Welcome, man. Derry Prenkert (00:56): Yeah, it's so good to be with you, Nick. Thanks for having me on. Nick Clason (00:58): Yeah. So as we were talking a little bit before I hit record here, you have a podcast or did, or what would you define the, the existence of your podcast? Right Now? Derry Prenkert (01:11): The status of my third decade. It is, it has been on the longest hiatus ever. Um, yeah. And it is coming back. Um, it's tied to this whole world of the shift that I've, I've made from being in a local church to now serving pastors in the local church. Yeah. And I'm in a season of getting all the groundwork laid for that. I, uh, have every intention, every intention by, uh, early 2023 that it's gonna launch back out. And there are some, there are actually some things already recorded for it, so, so it hasn't completely gone away. There, there is, there is a future to it. Nick Clason (01:46): That's good. Cuz it's still in my podcast catcher, so I'm not unsubscribing from, I just wanna let you know that it's still there. So, um, but back when I mowed the lawn when I worked two churches ago, I think I heard you, um, talk about like, uh, this really big shift in culture and you noticed that it was, uh, have to do with when the iPhone came into existence. Mm-hmm. , just give us a little bit, like give us your story, how long you've been, you know, doing youth ministry, um, and how you have a beneficial perspective of before technology and phones are a part of what we have to navigate and deal with. And then post, and then maybe we can just kind of chat about how we navigate that as, you know, people who are, uh, ministering to people, students, um, who are very much entrenched in this technology, like Lane and world. Derry Prenkert (02:42): Yeah, absolutely. So, um, my story is somebody that started in youth ministry at 19 years old. I was just about to turn 20 and I started an internship and that was back in 1996. Mm-hmm. . Yeah, I'm old. Um, and so graduated from high school in 95, start in, in ministry in 96. And so I get 11 years of ministry. Um, and in those 11 years, uh, you know, cell phones, car phones were around when I started . Yeah. And cell phones were around when I finished college in 1999. But they were, they roamed the minute you got outside of about 10 miles from your house and you only use them in emergencies. And then, and then it moved into, you know, 2004, 2005, the razor flip. Flum was the coolest thing in the world is texting, kind of entered the picture mm-hmm. . Um, and then, you know, so I, but, but really it was 2007 when Steve Jobs holds up this, this phone. Derry Prenkert (03:36): And it's actually interesting to go back and watch, I don't know if you've ever watched that keynote when he does it. No, I should, but, but he, he, he introduces it and is pretty prophetic, like the level of what he's talking about where technology is heading. Cause he said this is gonna revolutionize and change. And he says, he says, What would happen if we were to introduce a computer operating system, a phone and a iPod all in one thing. Yeah. And that's, that's the heartbeat of what they did. Um, and actually I, I do a technology thing with parents, uh, adolescents, technology and parenting. Mm-hmm. , uh, what I do is, I'll actually, it's, it's a fun little exercise cuz if you think about, you got, most parents of teenagers right now are, are there children of the eighties if they're really, if they've got younger, like their youngest kids are teenagers now, nineties or maybe early two thousands mm-hmm. . And so what I do is I'll put up on the screen different, like, what was the technology of our time. And so like, you know, in the eighties you got like VCRs and corded phones and, and a Walkman or a giant computer that has a green screen maybe. Nick Clason (04:41): Yeah. I found the VCR yesterday in our building, so that was cool, Derry Prenkert (04:46): Dude. And, and did you try playing anything? Cause it probably just ate the tape, right? Nick Clason (04:49): Yeah, no, I was like, I don't, I don't even know if we would ever need this, but, Right. Yeah. Here it Derry Prenkert (04:53): Is. Yeah. Yeah. It's, see the, in the eighties in technology, like everything got fixed by blowing on it. Um, so like the VHS tape wasn't working. You blew on it. The, the Nintendo cartridge. Yep. You blew in that and then blew in the box. Mm-hmm. . So that was, you know, eighties in the nineties, you have cell phones come, you got the Discman mm-hmm. that I remember. I would, as the nineties I would run or exercise with a discman, but I had to be careful not to run too hard because the CD would skip Yeah. Nick Clason (05:17): As I skipping. I Derry Prenkert (05:18): Remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then, you know, early two thousands social media in MySpace shows up. Yep. But, you know, garins show up, Uhhuh, um, digital cameras are a big deal in another 2000 flat screen TVs. Right. So we walk through these different, different moments and I say in 2007, Steve Jobs holds up this, this little device. And everything I just said was around in those different decades now lives inside this single device. Mm. Interesting. It is your video games. It is your music, you know, it's your disc man, it's your VCR or your DVD player. It is your Nick Clason (05:53): Computer, your calendar. Yeah. Derry Prenkert (05:55): Yeah. It's everything. It's all there. And, and so for parents, it's just saying like, recognize how significant this shift is. And so for those of us in ministry, if we are in that age, it's important to recognize that for those of us that are, I I, a lot of youth pastors are maybe a little, um, younger than the parents that they have. Right. Remember, like, these are the parents you're working with that, that this shift has happened. It might be a little more native to you as a youth pastor if you're in your, your mid to early twenties mm-hmm. . But it's foreign. It's, it's, it's so different and, and it's, it's changed so much. Um, the two things to kind of say, when I look at youth culture, cuz that's where I spent a lot of my time Yeah. That I would say are huge, is, uh, one youth group in church. Derry Prenkert (06:40): I was at a church that ha drew from multiple high schools. And pre 2007, we were the place to go to connect with friends. Hmm. Um, now we saw God move and we were, we were, we were unapologetic that that wasn't the, that wasn't the primary point. The primary point was to encounter a relationship with Jesus, to understand your call, to be a part of this kingdom work. But the appeal for my kids, I'm gonna drop names that nobody knows from Wawa c high school at Northwood High School. Mm-hmm. and Goshan High School. Someone knows each other. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Um, uh, they can meet weekly at our place. Right. Uh, now with the institution of not only, you know, the, just the move of the cell phone with texting, but then once the iPhone came in, it wasn't just you, you could, you didn't have to go there to meet a place you could actually interact face to face, you know, through FaceTime, through, through, um, whatever it might be. Derry Prenkert (07:33): Google Meet all do different stuff. You could, you could do that over the phone. So it became less important. The other thing that's super intriguing is, I don't know about Eich, but the greatest day of my life, uh, as a teenager was when I turned 16 in one month in my town, because that was the day I could get my driver's license. Yeah. And by getting my driver's license, that meant a whole new, uh, level of freedom, empowerment, and ownership. Like that driver's license was my ticket to independence. Yeah. I've noticed, um, a major change. I can't believe how many kids I interact with that are like 16, 17 and, you know, we're doing an event. They're like, Hey, can I get a ride? I'm like, You don't have your license yet. Yeah. No. And, and, and, and I I don't have like the scientific proof to this, just the conversation. Derry Prenkert (08:25): Sure. It's, they're like, Why would I, why would I need it? Well, yeah, the big shift came like that that license was my way to get to my friends. Mm-hmm. and my community. Now, this, this thing that we can hold in our hands is our ticket to interact. And so, so like one of the, I guess like the big implication that I would throw out that is huge is it it has radically transformed our connectivity mm-hmm. , um, even with the people right next to us. Yeah. Um, so I mean, so many other thoughts, but there's, those are just a couple things like that we recognize. Another way I say it is like we basically now are carrying around super computers in our pockets. Yeah. That, uh, it's, they are that we're, we have, we have excessive, uh, access to information. We are, we are constantly connected. Um, and it's like invasive, you know, it's not like it's, when's the last time I I I, you can answer this or the people are listening, When's the last time you actually turned off powered down your phone Nick Clason (09:26): On your own? Well, mine's new, so never Derry Prenkert (09:29): Yeah. . Nick Clason (09:30): Right, Derry Prenkert (09:30): Right. And it's, it's like impossible to, like, they've made it so it's hard to do. And so it's always there. Now, now I might sound like I'm interesting. Yeah. I'm negative on this. I do mourn more in some things because I'm old and I'm an old guy sitting saying, Get off my lawn kids. You know, a little bit. But, um, but those are some of the things that I think are big that have changed. And so, so just the way we go about ministry has to change with it. It is in my mind, we measure time on before and after like, events that come to mind in youth ministry world, most youth pastors that were around before Columbine mm-hmm. and after Columbine, they know it changed the way you had to handle liabilities and safety Nick Clason (10:10): Measures. Yeah. Derry Prenkert (10:11): Mm-hmm. pre nine 11. Post nine 11 as a, as a culture, our life shifted on how we view, uh, things pre covid, post covid. We're still learning that all. Yeah. I still could make the argument pre iPhone and post iPhone, pre smartphone and post iPhone could be, could be the most significant watershed cultural moment that we've experienced in the LA since World War ii. Yeah. Nick Clason (10:35): I don't, one of, one of like, I, one of the guys I listen to a lot, his name, you know, Brady Shear mm-hmm. , he talks about this being the biggest communication shift that we've seen in 500 years. So he's referencing that being the printing press. Yeah. And now with all this digital stuff. So that's a great call. Let's go like, let's go there a little bit. You said, um, pre iPhone people would gather from multiple high schools to your church. Did you notice that stopping, um, after, did you notice attendance shifting or did you just notice that still happens but there's, there's now just an iPhone in everyone's pocket and that's changing how they're interacting. But things are still, still sort of the same. Like, what would you say was, uh, like a, an actual effect, right? Yeah. Of that attendance thing you're talking about. Derry Prenkert (11:25): This is not scientific at all. It's very guttural and it's nature. Uh, and it's my experience, I would say it didn't, for some it stopped. But I would say the bigger thing is it got more sporadic. In fact, you we're just talking, I don't know, it would be fascinating. You know, they talk about how people are coming to church less often Right. Than they used to. That a regular attendant is, attender is considered once every month or once every three weeks. Right? Yep. I wonder how that correlates to the institution of like the, the actual cell phone and smartphone because Yeah, because that was the thing. Like pre pre smartphone, um, even kids from the same school, there was the chance to just, you know, we're not just going through in passing periods. We're gonna have a small group time. We're gonna have a pre hangout post hangout mm-hmm. Derry Prenkert (12:09): once a week. This is my guaranteed time. I'm gonna get time with my friends. Yeah. Um, and so it got more sporadic. Yeah. Uh, definitely. And, and that could be in part because they could have the community outside of the youth group. Um, but it still, that's why I would, I would still be a firm believer. There is a limitation to what you can accomplish over digital. I think anybody that truly had to walk through the PA pandemic and live completely on a screen would a hundred percent agree with me. You can't replace, um, interpersonal in person reaction Totally. With digital. But you can find more connection or, or you can find connection in the gaps through that. And so I think it got more, um, more sporadic, uh, in nature. And yes, they are showing up with them. And I mean, man, whew, how many conversations do I have? Derry Prenkert (12:58): I had with parents and leaders on, We gotta, we gotta, we gotta like force kids to turn these off or tell 'em they can't have 'em at all. And then, and then the issue of parents talking about what age do I give my kid a phone? When do I not? Because not only are they carrying it around, I mean, it's just, it's just there. And so the amount of attention that was going down to it when they were around that, that I'd say kinda really hit in the two, like 2014 15 phrase when everybody got one. Mm-hmm. , uh, everybody had one. Nick Clason (13:28): Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, even my kids in first grade and his teacher sended stuff on his like e backpack and then his like e folder and he has like iPad time. Like, so my sort of thing is, while you may lament the loss of some of what was prefo and pre-technology, um, it's not going anywhere. And so, you know, cuz I, I'm with you sometimes I have leaders who are like, We just need to get rid of the phones, take 'em away from the kids. Like make sure that they, you know, only use paper bibles and that, you know, it's, it's wrong to read God's word on a screen type of thing. And that's, that's a high preference maybe mm-hmm. . And there may be some validity to some of those things, but the fact of the matter is like, why, You know, my argument is why are we discouraging a kid from reading the Bible if it's super accessible to them and in their pocket 24 hours a day? Nick Clason (14:25): Um, you know, so, So what have you noticed or what are some of the things that you've done realizing like, we can't, we can't get ourselves away from these. They are everywhere. They're on all the time. They are our everything. Our day planner, our calendar and our social life in a lot of ways. You know, like what are some of the things that you've, you've tried to embrace as a youth pastor, um, to maybe leverage them or lean into them and then maybe what are some of the times that you've discouraged use of them? Because you're like the, the, you know, the re the result of what's gonna happen here physically is gonna be greater than what is happening if you're on your Derry Prenkert (15:02): Phone. Yeah. It's great. Um, in the thing I do with parents, which total shameless plug, it's actually on D ym, you get it, download Youth Mystery Nick Clason (15:12): And then you have an extra $4 in your pocket. Yeah, yeah, Derry Prenkert (15:15): Yeah. From that roof. Yeah. It's called Adolescents Parenting and Technology. I use an illustration. I, and I, it's an illustration that, that hit me is our phones are a knife, um, and a knife, uh, can serve many purposes. Uh, a knife is, can be used to spread butter. It can be used to whittle wood to make, uh, amazing things. It can be, it can be, uh, used to, you know, cut through things that are hard to cut through. It also can be used to kill people. Um, it's really about what is happening with the person that has it in their hands. And a part of that is what's their intentions as well as what's their awareness of a knife. You know, I've got, you've got younger kids. Mm-hmm. , I had a six year old that early on, he just got us obsessed with our steak knives when he was three or four. Derry Prenkert (16:03): And we had to like, put those things up high cuz he just, he didn't understand the danger involving those knives. Right. Um, and, and so, uh, so with that, like, with that illustration in mind and looking at it that way, I, I look at this thing, a knife is really, for the most part neutral. Unless it's this crazy butcher knife that is, for the most part, a knife is neutral. It's what you're doing with it in your hands. So then it becomes about making sure to check your motives as well as prepare the person that has it in their hands to use it in the right way and to know how to use it in the right way. And, um, I think in that, like, especially if we're talking to ministers and I, I would put this across the board, in fact mm-hmm. , I would argue that senior pastors teaching pastors should be coaching, uh, 50, 60 year olds how to utilize their phones wisely, even more so than those that are just growing up with it, a native part of their life. Derry Prenkert (17:03): Hmm. Um, cuz I don't see a lot of students, uh, just making a fool of themselves on how they treat people on, on social media is, uh, as much as I see adults, uh, in what they're saying and everything else. So, so the, it's across the board. Like we have a responsibility to look at what does scripture say about, especially from a discipleship aspect of how we are to love our neighbors ourselves, and then how does it play out on this thing, you know? Mm-hmm. . So, so that would be, that would be a thing. So, um, so that's just, sorry, little rant there, but the knife and, and, and we, we have a responsibility to show them. Uh, I am a big fan Nick, of just intentionality in ministry overall. I think a lot of pastors, uh, I'm, I'm dedicating really, I feel like the second, second half of my life is I just want youth pastors and any pastors to be healthy in ministry. Derry Prenkert (17:53): And a big part of that is guarding your own heart. Um, another part is just thinking clearly and strategically in Christ's focus and inten and intentionality in what you're doing is a big part of that. Um, and so I would, I would argue that anybody that is in charge of a program, uh, a ministry, uh, any regular ministry gathering, there should be a side to say, Okay, what's our philosophy in how phones play into this? Mm-hmm. . And it can take up a lot of different forms. Yeah. One is what's our, so we're gonna be teaching this series, How's it showing up on their phones? Mm-hmm. , are we gonna do digital notes that they can look at while they're in the room? Are we going to do follow up stuff through social media that's gonna create interaction? Um, you've done some great stuff on the importance of don't just use your social media of as a, as a billboard that uses this interactive place. Derry Prenkert (18:47): You know, thinking through those things. Mm-hmm. , um, how are we going to actually handle the phones inside the space? What are, are, are, uh, uh, to what, what do we need to take into account if a middle school, I, I'm helping out in middle school right now, and I'm at a pretty conservative community mm-hmm. where I'd say it's six through eight grade, I would say no more than half the kids are, are actually walking in with smartphones. Now I know some would go, That's ridiculous. Well, that's my community. Sure. So I need to be thinking through, um, that I, I have to have a path for the non phone user. Right. But also I need to be thinking through for the phone user to begin to show them now. Like, Hey, if you're gonna follow Jesus, that plays out in this thing. Yeah. Derry Prenkert (19:28): So how do we do that? So what, what am I teaching? You know, when I get to the practical steps of my teaching, how am I intentionally saying, Hey, this is how this plays out on your phone. You know, that can be a part of it. Um, and then, and then I think, uh, there's just the overall, uh, idea of, I, I have kind of these categories I think through that I want to try to do inside the programming. And this is very youth ministry specific. I want to have times where, uh, where they have it and it's on, but they're encouraged to put it to, to the side mm-hmm. and not access it at all. Because, because we need to be able to do that in real life at times. Mm-hmm. , you know mm-hmm. . And so small groups, a lot of times, I don't know if you have this some, sometimes they'll do like the basket or, or, or things to say, Hey, it's here. Derry Prenkert (20:14): Or just even stack them in the middle of the room like, it's here, but we're not gonna use Oh yeah. Use that right now. Yeah. And, um, or it's just even a, Hey, let's put this in our pockets. Just hang tight with me for a little bit. Um, then there's then there's times where it's like off or not there at all. And we can talk about that one a little bit more. Probably it'd be a good one of, of, Hey, this is a no cell phone situation. Yeah. I think that's very debatable on how much we're often, but there's times where it's important to just, I mean, uh, solitude, simplicity, um, making sure that we're not controlled by things all apart of following Jesus. But then most importantly is we're gonna have times where we use this thing in a redemptive manner. Yeah. Um, we're gonna find ways. Derry Prenkert (20:57): So, so we are closing out and we've talked about, uh, the importance of praying for others and what ha you know, maybe we're doing a series on prayer and it's about praying for others. And, and what we say is, Okay, here's what we're gonna do right now. If you have a phone, I want you to pull it out and I'm just gonna ask the Lord to speak to us, to give you a name right now as somebody you could pray for. Hmm. And, and now I want you to pull out your phone and I want you to text them, not not, not text them that you are praying for them, actually text out what your prayer for them is. Hmm. Or when you walk out the room tonight, I want you to use that little voice memo thing. I did this this morning. Uh, I got a friend who just started first day in ministry today. I, I did a voice memo to him that was just solely my prayer and that was it. Like, here's my prayer for you today as you started on ministry. Yeah. That's cool. So, so finding ways to use it, redemptively. So again, I kind of went different, but use it redemptively. Find ways to put it to the side, find ways to turn it off or not have it there at all. And do all of that intentionally. Nick Clason (21:51): Yeah. I mean, a lot, a lot of what we say on here is that digital and physical, uh, both are important, but they're both categorically different. And so that's why I do think there is value in things that are strictly physical only. I think, like you said, we learned a lot of things about ourselves and people during covid when what was physical could not be completely replicated digitally. Yeah. Um, and vice versa. Right. And that's, that's the thing too, is like, I think the vice versa piece is like, there are some digital things that are digital only, like mm-hmm. me. Like you can do message recaps and, and things like that where you're calling back to what you did, um, throughout the week. Like on things like social media where people are not physically gathering in your room on a Tuesday morning, or they can be reading a u version plan on their own when they wake up on Thursday afternoon, you know, at lunch, whatever. Nick Clason (22:46): So mm-hmm. , that's, that's this whole idea of hybrid is it's, there is room for, for physical only. And there's also space, I think for digital. And that's part of the thing is we've, and I think a lot of churches are kind of running up into this, is they're, uh, Hey, you're, you're a youth pastor so you have to do all of it. Mm-hmm. , it's like these are two completely like different lanes. And so there's, I mean, there's staffing conversations and budget conversations I think like around all these things that are gonna be coming, coming down the pike at, at churches, so mm-hmm. , what would you say are times, um, maybe where you would, you would say, Hey, let's put phones away all together. Maybe talk about like camp situation Sure. Or, or retreats or whatever. Yeah. I'm sure that's probably one of the, the main ones that comes to people's minds. Derry Prenkert (23:32): Yeah. Yeah. Nick, you and I are a part of different youth ministry communities. Um, Facebook groups are a wonderful mess at times. . And one of the, one of the hot topics amongst many other things is when this gets asked of, Hey, what's your policy on cell phones? And it's interesting. It's like just hot takes start firing all over the place. Right. So, um, I was a part of one church for 23 years mm-hmm. , and I was a part of another church for 2.3 years. That's my little joke, uhha. But, um, , uh, in the one church that I was at for 23 years that I also grew up where technology was unfolded. And we, we had a hard and fast rule that really any trip that we did, we started with the idea of no cell phones would be allowed. And it was because we had a high emphasis on interactivity and, and, and it, cell phones weren't around when we set the rule. Derry Prenkert (24:24): It was, you can't bring your walkmans, your discmans your game boys because we're here to interact with each other. And the minute you look down on that thing, you're not there. So that just kind of lended itself over to cell phones and everything else. Mm-hmm. . And so, um, so any camp retreat, anything like that, we just, we put a pretty hard and fast rule with the one except perception being our senior retreat that we do with grads. We'd say, Hey, you can bring it. It was almost like this. Oh, you're old enough now. I, I don't know that I liked the motives in it, um, in, in it all. So, but then I went to, uh, another church where it was like, you can have them all the time mm-hmm. . Um, which, and the interesting thing I saw was effective ministry was taking place in both situations. Derry Prenkert (25:09): Um, but we hadn't really stopped and re strategized in my 23 year church to say, Hey, we're kind of, we kind of just stumbled into this, but these things are so much a part of his life. So we need to understand when we ask a kid to leave theirself at home, we're asking them to leave their most prized valuable mm-hmm. , um, possession mm-hmm. at home. Um, and then at the other church it was like, it's all there. But where we really said, Hey, how are we, are we, are we assessing how we're we're using these? And so I don't, I don't come from the mindset that says definitely no. Or definitely yes. As much as, again, back to that word, intentionality. Yeah. Um, have a plan. Yeah. Talk about it. So, so where we really landed, where at the church I was just at, was, um, if the event is going to be primarily focused on those that don't know Jesus coming into the situation, we're gonna be very hesitant to say he phones. Derry Prenkert (26:06): Yeah. Because they're not gonna get the idea of it. If the event is, is high, um, service based, um, intentional discipleship mm-hmm. and deepening, we're gonna stop and say, Hey, you know what, let's, this might be a time, Yeah. Let's evaluate this, where we're gonna maybe more lean toward this is a no-go, but then we're gonna say, here's why it's a no-go. If it's heavy discipleship, it's gonna say, this is gonna be a significant time. Where the primary things we're gonna do is we're gonna focus in on your connection with God and your connection with others, and we're gonna challenge you to find ways to do that outside of the technical technological world. Can you do that inside the technological world? Absolutely. But we see the value of a break. Um, and so that's kind of where we landed. Uh, but I mean the, the, I'm back, I'm back around the church that I was at for 23 years, though a lot of the rules are still in place that if it's a trip or retreat, it's no go. The interesting thing is, um, parents hated a whole lot more than students did. Nick Clason (27:03): Yeah. Now they were the one were noticing that too. Yep. Derry Prenkert (27:05): Yeah. If you, I would argue you wanna try to institute a no cell phone rule and you don't have it, it's gonna be really hard and it may not be worth the fight and it won't be because the kids, it's gonna be the parents. Parents are be, How do I get a hold of Johnny? Yeah. And, you know, in whatever case. Um, but, but when we take seniors on the retreat, when we were taking them, you know, and we'd allow to have phones, it just naturally had come up in conversations. They would go, Wait, are you gonna start allowing this for other kids on your, on, on campus? Like, we didn't have. And and I'm like, and, and I'd get into the conversation with 'em like, Oh, are you ticked because you had to suffer through not having 'em. Yeah. And you're, and you wanna make sure they get punished like you did. Derry Prenkert (27:42): And the seniors would be like, No, no. Like, I'd love that. We didn't have 'em. Yeah. I, I I actually would come back from camp. So grateful that you really pushed that on us for that time. Mm-hmm. . Now, is that right or wrong? No, I, I like, does that mean that you absolutely shouldn't do it? No, but it was just, it's an interesting aspect to it all. So again, long, long talking to just say it's about intentionality, it's about thinking through why would we want to do this? Mm-hmm. and then, and then making sure to communicate to those that are participating. And if it's in youth ministry, the parents of saying here's why. Yeah. Um, and then being ready for a fight, if you wanna say No phones. Cause it's, it's a challenge. Nick Clason (28:20): Yeah. That, No, that's really good. And again, right, like there's things that only physical can accomplish and there's things that only digital can accomplish. And I think an experience like a camp or whatever, there is a lot of connection that needs to take place. And most students, and you know, back to what you said earlier, people in church like don't know how to live in a world where it's just that where their phone isn't constantly dinging or lighting up or vying for their attention. And so I, I too have noticed in those types of environments where students, people are like grateful and thankful or say, man, like I'm, I haven't even like, wanted my phone. They're kinda surprised by it. You know, that that's, that's kind of the case. So Yeah. It's so Derry Prenkert (29:05): Interesting. Can I give two practical, just real practical tips if you choose to do no phones, especially if you're a youth pastor. Yeah, yeah. Um, one is bring in a, at at least one, maybe multiple people who's their sole job is to capture photos and videos of the experience mm-hmm. . And at the beginning of the experience, make sure that the students know who that person is, because one of the things you're asking them to sacrifice is Nick Clason (29:28): Capturing, capturing Derry Prenkert (29:30): The memories Nick Clason (29:30): Of Derry Prenkert (29:31): It all. And that's bigger than ever, right? Yeah. Because they can do that. And so making sure that that's there, and then making all those photos and videos available as soon as you possibly can. Um, and I, I noticed that, um, the, a camp I was at this summer there, the photographer was actually uploading those, um, to their social media platform, like with a link while the camp was there, even though the kids didn't have phones, so that as soon as they got home within like one hour, the kids were like posting their, you know, their real, their reels that recaps, like that's good. Building up all the stuff on the, That's really good. So I think that's a big one. And then two is think through your strategic feedback loop to parents. The parent freakout is, I don't, I, how do I know? Well mm-hmm. Derry Prenkert (30:14): , if you have a, a way of saying, Hey, here's, here's where you can go, um, whether it's a Facebook page or group, or if it's your Instagram, or if it's even like a, a remind, uh, setup or whatever, texting, like, here's where it's at. We found that Facebook lives where you could at a camp mm-hmm. , um, actually doing a, Hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go live at this time. I'm actually gonna give you a little glimpse into the session just for a short bit so you can just see what's going on and then come back and update you. And the beauty of a Facebook Live, every parent is still on Facebook, uh, for the most part. So they, they, they're there and so they can jump on live and then you can let it sit there. So, um, but those two things will, will go a long way in helping the resistance you might get. Um, when it comes to the no phone Nick Clason (31:00): Rule. Yeah. We, we, we do, we've done like a photographer and my, my favorite, and it always depends on like if the church or I have the budget to pull this off, but like get a videographer as well, or the same person, um, and have them do a daily, like, recap video. Those are great for opening your like sessions, but they're also amazing to throw up on YouTube and then text a link out. And so, you know, parents who, uh, send their kids without phone or whatever, they feel this like sense of relief if like they see their kid. Absolutely. Then the downside is one, one time I had to, uh, remove a clip because a kid was like picking his nose and the mom like, wanted it out. Yeah. Um, and then another time ano a mom was like, I haven't seen my kid in any of the recap bees. Yeah. And I'm trying not to freak out, but like, are they having fun? Like, are they making friends? Like, and I get it, like as a, as a dad myself, you know, now, like I would also want to try and like lay eyes on my kids. So Derry Prenkert (32:01): Totally same. Totally same. Actually Gabe, the pastor at the church that I'm serving with now, he did a meal time at camp and he just said, Okay, who needs to see their kid Facebook Live, , who needs to see their kid? And he just went around and said, funny. And he put up the phone, he said, Tell your mom you're okay. And, and it was like one of the most viewed Yeah. There are a lot of people there, so Yeah. And that is legit. And it's, you gotta be ready for it for that whole world. And, um, it is, that is evidence again, of the different world. And, and as a parent of a high schooler and a middle schooler, I wasn't at the high school camp. I was at the middle school camp. I was watching for my kid. Yeah. Derry Prenkert (32:38): That I didn't quite quite realize. So. Nick Clason (32:40): All right. Last, last thing. Um, how can we, as pastors, people in ministry, what are ways there that you see that we can optimize technology, um, now Cause like the overall mission, right? Of the church mm-hmm. to make disciples. And Paul used, you know, the thing available to him writing letters at the time to reach churches that he was not near. So what are some ways, just maybe a couple ideas off the top of your head that you have seen effective or ideas that maybe you haven't seen totally fleshed out, but are ruminating inside. Like Yeah. Where we can use what is available to us in technology. I mean, even the fact that I'm sitting in Texas here in northern Indiana and we're having this conversation and we're seeing each other, like, that's an advantage that wasn't available to us pre 2007. Right. And so, uh, what are some of those things maybe that you have seen or have thought about that we can use to our advantage to help kids take steps closer to Jesus? Derry Prenkert (33:40): Yeah. Let me throw you a little bit of a curve on where I might go with this to start only, um, in that I've been a part of large to very large churches mm-hmm. , and you've been a part of larger churches where there's a budget that's available and mass communication through technology. And so our minds might immediately go to Yeah. Podcasts and video streams mm-hmm. and, uh, you know, Instagram and getting somehow in with you version so you can build up a Bible reading plan. And I Yes. Yeah. Nick Clason (34:10): But I would it if you can Derry Prenkert (34:11): Yeah. I would say pastors and ministers to remember to that this is an incredible one to one ministry tool still mm-hmm. . And so, um, and, and this has gotten especially big to me as I've shifted over into this world now where my primary job that I says God's called me to is just to pastor pastors, especially those that are youth pastors. Well, they're all over the nation. Yeah. And so, um, last night, Sunday night for me, I'm recognizing I was just like, Lord, who are the people right now that might just kind of be in that spot that a word of encouragement or a check-in could go a long way? And there were, there were four texts that were sent out to individuals going, Hey, you're on my mind. How did today go? Or what's going on in your mind? Woke up this morning and like I already told you about, there was one guy that is first day he shifted from the education world to the church world. Derry Prenkert (35:03): Hmm. And so, um, so I, I would just start by saying yes, I mean, as we think about the massive ways to do it, let's not forget that pastoring at its best that's good is a one to one, a one to three relationship mm-hmm. . And so, uh, connecting with our parishioners are people that we're discipling, whoever they might be, uh, through the phone and doing it healthily and thinking through safeguards and all those things are really important, especially for youth pastors. Um, which probably is a whole other episode to talk through at some point. . Yeah. But, um, but to understand like, this is a ministry tool at its core. And so a a properly placed text, phone call, FaceTime, um, like, or comment on a, um, on a, on a post, uh, can is, is ministry, like, is deep ministry and meaningful ministry at times. Derry Prenkert (35:53): Mm-hmm. . Um, That's great. It was interesting Nick, uh, my former youth pastor, uh, my dad died 10, uh, 13 years ago now, and my former youth minister is no longer in youth ministry. And, but it was an incredible influence on my life. Mm-hmm. . And it was about, uh, it was, it was right around eight years after my dad had died, I posted just a memory of him and below in the comment section, my old youth pastor got on and he, all he wrote was, I'm so proud of you Derry. And I read that and I lost it. And, and I talked to him and, and what happened in that moment was like, I realized, uh, can, like, thank you. I miss I miss having my dad, and I'm not, I don't have a dad that can physically say to me, I'm proud of you anymore. Derry Prenkert (36:39): And I'm, I'm like a 36 year old man, like blubbering over my youth pastor telling me he's proud of me. But it's because he, he, in that moment, he ministered to me through a simple comment on a Facebook group mm-hmm. that also helped me work through some grieving that I was at. I hadn't really just walked through and said, God, I'm kind of ticked, I'm kind of ticked right now because I've lost, like, why did this happen? And, and it helped me kind of break through to a new level. And so, so anyway, like just, I, I, that's the one thing I would just say is as we think through the strategic and the greater stuff, let's not forget this is a incredible tool for the most effective ministry that is relational and personal in nature. That's good. That's good. Um, um, I would say otherwise though too is, um, I have a good friend, John McAllen, Johnny Mack, he did this thing, he started, it was called Echo Ministry. Derry Prenkert (37:25): And the idea was how do you take and create echos of what's happening on the, on the weekend? How do you have the message echo through the rest of the week? And our technology, our cell phones are such a primary tool to make that happen. You said it so well, there are things that we can do now because we have these, um, where it can show up in the moment, in, in different ways, uh, whether it's, uh, uh, a thinking through, uh, devotional journey, like I said, through you version. Mm-hmm. , uh, uh, the youth group that I just was at for the last couple of years, they're doing a thing called sale up Moments every week. They have just one moment that, that where they, they use on social media where they say, Okay, you're scrolling through, but stop, exhale, um, and listen to God allow 'em to speak to you. Derry Prenkert (38:16): You know? And there's a whole acronym to it. I can't remember what the H was good. Yeah. I like that. You know, have a burger, I think was the last, no, I can't remember what the H was, but, um, they, they, they walked through it and, and so using that was, um, was, was a way to do it. So I, I think it's that matter of how can we echo it mm-hmm. . And there's a lot, you know, podcasts can be a part of it. Uh, I started something called Digging Deeper with our main services when I was, uh, at my own church. And, and what we did was every Wednesday I would sit down with whoever was preaching mm-hmm. . And if I, I, I was a part of the teaching time. If I was preaching, somebody else would come in and the first thing we'd say, Hey, hey, what hit the cutting room floor? Derry Prenkert (38:53): What were you not able to get to this weekend that you wish you could have? And people just love that aspect, but then we would pick it part a little bit more mm-hmm. . And so, and it, it's not hard. It's a, you know, get, get a little basic, um, Yeah. Recording set up and you can get it set up pretty easy. Um, and so there's just so many ways, but I would just start with the, like, how can we echo into the week, what happened on the weekend Yep. And use it on a digital format. Nick Clason (39:16): Yeah. No, that's good. I, I also personally think that we don't know yet like, the answer to some of these questions. Yeah. Like, I still think that there's, uh, things yet to be discovered, you know, in front of us. And so I think, uh, if there's any sort of like, challenge for anyone listening, I would just say like, just do something. Um, and you may stumble upon something great. You may find some stuff that's terrible and you need to cut it out. Um, but if you're, if you're always looking that direction, uh, you'll, you'll stumble upon something good that you maybe don't even know, or you maybe didn't, you know, you maybe weren't even able to see it right now when you started it because of a limited technology or budget or whatever. And so just be looking for ways. Cuz like I said, it's less, I think, I personally think it's easy to make digital about being flashy, um, or whatever, looking good to parents or other youth pastors or other people in ministry, whatever. Nick Clason (40:15): But I think it's far less about that for me at least, and it's more about how effective can I be in spreading the message of Jesus with all the tools that he's given to me. Yeah. Like, I'm, I'm alive in 2022 with access to podcast microphones and phones that can take incredible videos and pictures, like mm-hmm. , how am I going to use steward those things to reach the most amount of people, you know, that have an audience to reach. So I think that's, that would be my challenge to whoever's listening is think what Dare said, think through all the things that, with intentionality, Um, and then just be open, you know, to, to utilizing some stuff. Derry Prenkert (40:52): So yeah. You're, you're so right on. We don't have it all figured out. Probably one of my greatest pet peeves in life are, uh, those that are convinced they have it all figured out. Um, Yeah. and I, I, I can do that at times. And usually when I'm at that point and I'm like, Oh yeah, I know how to do this. Mm-hmm. , that's the moment when I will fall flat on my face. And so, so there's a ton to be learned. There's a ton to be determined I love, or Nick Clason (41:14): That's when a new iPhone comes out, Right. And you're like, Oh, this changed everything. Or Covid hit and this changed everything. So yes. Totally. Good. Yes. I think we're living through that. Well, hey man. Um, anything else off top of your head? You don't have to, but I just wanna make sure you said everything you wanted to say. Didn't leave anything unsaid. Derry Prenkert (41:30): I think the only thing I would maybe end with is in that same vein is, um, it's everywhere. It's so much. Uh, also don't be afraid to not feel like you have to do everything, you know? Um, uh, especially to the minister that's trying to think through how to do effectively. There is a, there is a moment where less is more because your soul needs to rest, you know? Mm-hmm. , if you're finding yourself trying to, uh, late at night when you should be being around your family, invest your family or on your day off going, this is the time while Ill dive into all this digital stuff. Eh, you know what, maybe, maybe that's, uh, not worth it. No, not, maybe it definitely is not worth it. Definitely not worth, There's just, that's the part of like this thing, there's just so much out there. Mm-hmm. don't, I, I I guess it's like that idea of don't gain the digital world at the cost of your soul. Yeah. good is, is, is a big thing. And I just, I say that out of a season where I'm just seeing so many of us burn out. Um, and we're burning out in a lot of different ways, but one is because we're just constantly on and we don't hit the off switch. That's Nick Clason (42:34): Good. That's good. Love it, man. Well, hey, thanks again. Uh, you referenced a couple things in here. I'll toss 'em in show notes, like your resource on D ym so that all tens of our listeners can go get it. There you go. Um, anyway, thanks for hanging out man. And uh, absolutely. We'll chat again. Chat again. Yeah. Awesome. Nick Clason (42:52): Well, wasn't that great, Uh, super thoughtful, super helpful. Um, I hope that you found this interesting and helpful as well. Hey, um, we are online on Twitter at Hybrid Ministry. Would love to have you come hang out, follow us over there. Um, we're still growing, not super active yet, but, uh, we're well on our way. And also everything you need, show notes, links, transcripts, all kinds of stuff. You can find out hybrid ministry.xyz along with a now growing bank of archive and older episodes. So if you're just not stumbling upon us, we'd love to have you go back and check it out. Uh, you can do all of that at hybridministry.xyz (http://www.hybridministry.xyz) Ze. Again, thanks for being with us today and we'll chat next time.

Last week we had to be dads. Sick kids mean plans are about to change sometimes. But we are diving into the family triple date day we spent at Disney with Derry Prenkert and his family. We talked about some fun elders meetings, and how the languages really are the worst part of seminary. We talked about why people stay in or opt out of serving in student ministry, and our churches' different prayer initiates. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Last week we had to be dads. Sick kids mean plans are about to change sometimes. But we are diving into the family triple date day we spent at Disney with Derry Prenkert and his family. We talked about some fun elders meetings, and how the languages really are the worst part of seminary. We talked about why people stay in or opt out of serving in student ministry, and our churches' different prayer initiates. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Last week we had to be dads. Sick kids mean plans are about to change sometimes. But we are diving into the family triple date day we spent at Disney with Derry Prenkert and his family. We talked about some fun elders meetings, and how the languages really are the worst part of seminary. We talked about why people stay in or opt out of serving in student ministry, and our churches' different prayer initiates.Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=defaultBe sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

On this episode of At Home with WakyMC, we talk with Derry Prenkert about the call before us as followers of Jesus when it comes to our engagement with technology.  Derry's redemptive and practically minded vision sharing is a must-listen for any of us trying to be discerning in a digital age!

On this Sunday Session, youth ministry veteran, speaker, and coach Derry Prenkert lays out a helpful framework for followers of Jesus when navigating the use of technology within our homes. Derry invites listeners to consider a redemptive, discipleship-centered approach that neither embraces or rejects all aspects of technology, but instead integrates biblical wisdom into our … Continue reading Sunday Session #6: Being Wise With Technology – Derry Prenkert →

Derry Prenkert, a Youth Pastor and adoptive Dad, joins Greg and Blaine to talk about the challenges that come with parenting kids through the middle and high school years. Derry tackles some of the myths that Dads fall prey to in these seasons and gives some very practical advice on how to engage your teens in growing their own personal faith. Please reach out to us at justafadpodcast@gmail.com.

Is there anything worse than realizing that you looked ridiculous hours after you delivered a sermon? Andrew suffered from an unfortunate case of moobs on Sunday and Dylan didn't even tell him. We talked through Dylan's seminary application process, and played the newest Christmas game in the DYM store: “Hot Takes for Christmas” by our good buddy Derry Prenkert. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Is there anything worse than realizing that you looked ridiculous hours after you delivered a sermon? Andrew suffered from an unfortunate case of moobs on Sunday and Dylan didn't even tell him. We talked through Dylan's seminary application process, and played the newest Christmas game in the DYM store: “Hot Takes for Christmas” by our good buddy Derry Prenkert. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Is there anything worse than realizing that you looked ridiculous hours after you delivered a sermon? Andrew suffered from an unfortunate case of moobs on Sunday and Dylan didn't even tell him. We talked through Dylan's seminary application process, and played the newest Christmas game in the DYM store: “Hot Takes for Christmas” by our good buddy Derry Prenkert.Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=defaultBe sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Our love for the Rays continued this morning, as we cele-brated the trip to the World Series. We talked a lot about a ministry week that involves staying up until 1am every night. We dove into the weird attendance patterns church-es are seeing across the country, the trip we took to Dis-ney with Derry Prenkert last week, and the memorial ser-vices Tim has coming up this week. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Our love for the Rays continued this morning, as we cele-brated the trip to the World Series. We talked a lot about a ministry week that involves staying up until 1am every night. We dove into the weird attendance patterns church-es are seeing across the country, the trip we took to Dis-ney with Derry Prenkert last week, and the memorial ser-vices Tim has coming up this week. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=default Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Our love for the Rays continued this morning, as we cele-brated the trip to the World Series. We talked a lot about a ministry week that involves staying up until 1am every night. We dove into the weird attendance patterns church-es are seeing across the country, the trip we took to Dis-ney with Derry Prenkert last week, and the memorial ser-vices Tim has coming up this week.Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DownloadYouthMinistry-Site/default/Search-Show?q=andrew+larsen&search-button=&lang=defaultBe sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

It's everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online! Wednesday Online Youth Group: Bread Head Last week we made a joke about having bread in the shape of our heads. Then we made it into a challenge! Boy did our students deliver! It was awesome! And really funny too! Maybe ask your students to bake likenesses of your pastors this week! Who's That Leader? We played this game but with a twist! We shot silly string at one of the three of the pastors on camera who we all thought was the leader the screen mentioned. Funny and messy! https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/whos-that-leader Quarantmemes Quick images. Use them in your social or on your livestream. Make it happen! They're in the folder below! Integrity This week our high school pastor encouraged us to live a life of integrity like Daniel! It was a great talk for us and our students! You can find the leader sheet we gave our small group leaders in the folder below. Friday Zoom Lunch: What's Behind The Mask? A great game from Derry Prenkert! My students had a blast with this one! You should definitely give it a shot, whether on zoom or somewhere else! Great idea! https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/what-is-behind-the-mask-game Sunday Lesson: This was the third week of Scott Huff's “Unplugged” series. I'm taking each week he planned and making it into two. The thought of putting out a 20 minute YouTube lesson gives me the twitches. We started the “Why Have a Quiet Time” lesson and I included some quiet time guides in the resource below! Unplugged series: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-series All the Free Resources: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7nje3ohbu733ziz/AACLkstckCwndsLe_fuv6QGta?dl=0

It's everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online! Wednesday Online Youth Group: Bread Head Last week we made a joke about having bread in the shape of our heads. Then we made it into a challenge! Boy did our students deliver! It was awesome! And really funny too! Maybe ask your students to bake likenesses of your pastors this week! Who's That Leader? We played this game but with a twist! We shot silly string at one of the three of the pastors on camera who we all thought was the leader the screen mentioned. Funny and messy! https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/whos-that-leader Quarantmemes Quick images. Use them in your social or on your livestream. Make it happen! They're in the folder below! Integrity This week our high school pastor encouraged us to live a life of integrity like Daniel! It was a great talk for us and our students! You can find the leader sheet we gave our small group leaders in the folder below. Friday Zoom Lunch: What's Behind The Mask? A great game from Derry Prenkert! My students had a blast with this one! You should definitely give it a shot, whether on zoom or somewhere else! Great idea! https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/what-is-behind-the-mask-game Sunday Lesson: This was the third week of Scott Huff's “Unplugged” series. I'm taking each week he planned and making it into two. The thought of putting out a 20 minute YouTube lesson gives me the twitches. We started the “Why Have a Quiet Time” lesson and I included some quiet time guides in the resource below! Unplugged series: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-series All the Free Resources: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7nje3ohbu733ziz/AACLkstckCwndsLe_fuv6QGta?dl=0

It’s everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online!Wednesday Online Youth Group:Bread HeadLast week we made a joke about having bread in the shape of our heads. Then we made it into a challenge! Boy did our students deliver! It was awesome! And really funny too! Maybe ask your students to bake likenesses of your pastors this week!Who’s That Leader?We played this game but with a twist! We shot silly string at one of the three of the pastors on camera who we all thought was the leader the screen mentioned. Funny and messy!https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/whos-that-leaderQuarantmemes Quick images. Use them in your social or on your livestream. Make it happen! They’re in the folder below!IntegrityThis week our high school pastor encouraged us to live a life of integrity like Daniel! It was a great talk for us and our students! You can find the leader sheet we gave our small group leaders in the folder below.Friday Zoom Lunch:What’s Behind The Mask?A great game from Derry Prenkert! My students had a blast with this one! You should definitely give it a shot, whether on zoom or somewhere else! Great idea!https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/what-is-behind-the-mask-gameSunday Lesson:This was the third week of Scott Huff’s “Unplugged” series. I’m taking each week he planned and making it into two. The thought of putting out a 20 minute YouTube lesson gives me the twitches. We started the “Why Have a Quiet Time” lesson and I included some quiet time guides in the resource below!Unplugged series:https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-seriesAll the Free Resources:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7nje3ohbu733ziz/AACLkstckCwndsLe_fuv6QGta?dl=0

Ms online 05.03.20 It's everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online! Wednesday Online Youth Group: Dance Competition So last week we let the Freshman dictate the challenge to the student ministry. They said we should have a dance competition. It was a hit and lots of small groups completed virtually! I Love My Phone We stole this from Derry Prenkert and his church's student ministry. It was a total blast and the students really loved interacting with it over the YouTube comments. Also, we cheated. Every time. A graphic for you to use is in the resource folder link below. Quarantmemes I'm still not tired of these. I may never be tired of memes. Grab some of the ones we used in the resources download below. Keep Going Persevere! In a time where it feels like we're seeing trial after trial, it's important to remember the words of James and keep going! The resources folder has the follow up questions we used to drive this home with students. Friday Zoom Lunch: Ice Break Questions My Zoom meetings will definitely need a little something to get them started. These questions were AWESOME. Just having some things ready to go made everyone logging in way less awkward. https://youthgroup.downloadyouthministry.com/small-group-ice-breaker-questions/ Possibilites 2 We played this game over Zoom lunch. It's available to Gold Members as a part of this month's Member Perks. But you can still grab the first one! It made for a good Zoom call letting one student choose and answer and the rest of us try to guess what they chose. https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/game-of-possibilities https://dymmembership.com/ Sunday Lesson: We started Scott Huff's “Unplugged” series this week and I love it! Spiritual disciplines is something we really try to instill with our students. I also made a quick sheet of paper students can print off to use in helping them practice praying this week. Grab it in the folder! Unplugged series: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-series All the Free Resources: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bp9zroe15axvynv/AADuQ_pepe9-tyDuF2PI6imOa?dl=0

Ms online 05.03.20 It's everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online! Wednesday Online Youth Group: Dance Competition So last week we let the Freshman dictate the challenge to the student ministry. They said we should have a dance competition. It was a hit and lots of small groups completed virtually! I Love My Phone We stole this from Derry Prenkert and his church's student ministry. It was a total blast and the students really loved interacting with it over the YouTube comments. Also, we cheated. Every time. A graphic for you to use is in the resource folder link below. Quarantmemes I'm still not tired of these. I may never be tired of memes. Grab some of the ones we used in the resources download below. Keep Going Persevere! In a time where it feels like we're seeing trial after trial, it's important to remember the words of James and keep going! The resources folder has the follow up questions we used to drive this home with students. Friday Zoom Lunch: Ice Break Questions My Zoom meetings will definitely need a little something to get them started. These questions were AWESOME. Just having some things ready to go made everyone logging in way less awkward. https://youthgroup.downloadyouthministry.com/small-group-ice-breaker-questions/ Possibilites 2 We played this game over Zoom lunch. It's available to Gold Members as a part of this month's Member Perks. But you can still grab the first one! It made for a good Zoom call letting one student choose and answer and the rest of us try to guess what they chose. https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/game-of-possibilities https://dymmembership.com/ Sunday Lesson: We started Scott Huff's “Unplugged” series this week and I love it! Spiritual disciplines is something we really try to instill with our students. I also made a quick sheet of paper students can print off to use in helping them practice praying this week. Grab it in the folder! Unplugged series: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-series All the Free Resources: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bp9zroe15axvynv/AADuQ_pepe9-tyDuF2PI6imOa?dl=0

Ms online 05.03.20It’s everything we did this week to interact with Middle School students online!Wednesday Online Youth Group:Dance CompetitionSo last week we let the Freshman dictate the challenge to the student ministry. They said we should have a dance competition. It was a hit and lots of small groups completed virtually! I Love My PhoneWe stole this from Derry Prenkert and his church’s student ministry. It was a total blast and the students really loved interacting with it over the YouTube comments. Also, we cheated. Every time.A graphic for you to use is in the resource folder link below.Quarantmemes I’m still not tired of these. I may never be tired of memes. Grab some of the ones we used in the resources download below.Keep GoingPersevere! In a time where it feels like we’re seeing trial after trial, it’s important to remember the words of James and keep going! The resources folder has the follow up questions we used to drive this home with students.Friday Zoom Lunch:Ice Break QuestionsMy Zoom meetings will definitely need a little something to get them started. These questions were AWESOME. Just having some things ready to go made everyone logging in way less awkward.https://youthgroup.downloadyouthministry.com/small-group-ice-breaker-questions/Possibilites 2We played this game over Zoom lunch. It’s available to Gold Members as a part of this month’s Member Perks. But you can still grab the first one! It made for a good Zoom call letting one student choose and answer and the rest of us try to guess what they chose.https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/game-of-possibilitieshttps://dymmembership.com/Sunday Lesson:We started Scott Huff’s “Unplugged” series this week and I love it! Spiritual disciplines is something we really try to instill with our students. I also made a quick sheet of paper students can print off to use in helping them practice praying this week. Grab it in the folder!Unplugged series:https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/unplugged-teaching-seriesAll the Free Resources:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bp9zroe15axvynv/AADuQ_pepe9-tyDuF2PI6imOa?dl=0

Who in their right mind would talk to middle school students about sex? Well, people who are in their right mind of course! Someone is talking to your middle school students about sex. It might be the parents, but it might also be social media, Netflix, their buddies, Tik Tok and porn. This week Ronald and Michelle talk about what doing a sex series with middle school students looks like and how they approach it. Be brave! How do you communicate to parents that you're going to talk about sex? What tools can you put in the parent's hands to empower them? Why do middle school kids giggle so much when we talk about doing it? Mentioned on the podcast:  Ronald is doing this series by Derry Prenkert on DYM: God, Guys, and Girls Michelle is doing this series by Orange: None of Your Business Got a middle school ministry question? Email talkingsquirrelspodcast@gmail.com Need student ministry resources? Check out www.downloadyouthministry.com Do you listen to the Podcast? Consider leaving a review of the podcast! Social Media: Instagram Twitter Facebook

Who in their right mind would talk to middle school students about sex?Well, people who are in their right mind of course!Someone is talking to your middle school students about sex. It might be the parents, but it might also be social media, Netflix, their buddies, Tik Tok and porn.This week Ronald and Michelle talk about what doing a sex series with middle school students looks like and how they approach it. Be brave!How do you communicate to parents that you're going to talk about sex?What tools can you put in the parent's hands to empower them?Why do middle school kids giggle so much when we talk about doing it?Mentioned on the podcast: Ronald is doing this series by Derry Prenkert on DYM: God, Guys, and GirlsMichelle is doing this series by Orange: None of Your BusinessGot a middle school ministry question?Email talkingsquirrelspodcast@gmail.comNeed student ministry resources?Check out www.downloadyouthministry.comDo you listen to the Podcast? Consider leaving a review of the podcast!Social Media:InstagramTwitterFacebook

This MLK Day we dove into the highs and lows of a ministry life, and how to keep them in per-spective. We spent quite a bit of time discussing how Tim bailed on a scheduled Disney day with Andrew and Derry Prenkert. We talked leader training, and who you call when you need a last minute fill in preacher. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

This MLK Day we dove into the highs and lows of a ministry life, and how to keep them in per-spective. We spent quite a bit of time discussing how Tim bailed on a scheduled Disney day with Andrew and Derry Prenkert. We talked leader training, and who you call when you need a last minute fill in preacher. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

This MLK Day we dove into the highs and lows of a ministry life, and how to keep them in per-spective. We spent quite a bit of time discussing how Tim bailed on a scheduled Disney day with Andrew and Derry Prenkert. We talked leader training, and who you call when you need a last minute fill in preacher. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network!

Since the advent of YouTube, I’ve met several teenagers who are engaging in self-promotion in order to develop their celebrity-presence and build a growing following. In recent months, there’s been growing conversation about the potential pitfalls related to pastors and youth workers who self-promote and pursue celebrity status. What is self-promotion and is it something that a Christian leader should pursue? Does self-promotion derail us from the pursuit of practices that are good, true, right, and honorable? And how does pride play into our tendency to seek the stage and spotlight in order to build a following? We’ll be conversing about self-promotion with our friends Mark Matlock and Derry Prenkert, on this episode of Youth Culture Matters.

In this episode, Justin sits down with Derry Prenkert (from the My Third Decade Podcast on the DYM Podcast Network) to talk through hacks on how to create better alignment between the children's ministry and student ministry so you can work better together and have an aligned vision from birth to high school. Morning After Ministry Show Andy Stanley Video Derry on Instagram Sponsors: Give Central https://www.givecentral.org/ Download Youth Ministry University https://www.dymuniversity.com/a/10517/QbmGUcX2 Emory University – Candler School of Theology Candler.emory.edu/youthministryhacks

In this episode, Justin sits down with Derry Prenkert (from the My Third Decade Podcast on the DYM Podcast Network) to talk through hacks on how to create better alignment between the children's ministry and student ministry so you can work better together and have an aligned vision from birth to high school. Morning After Ministry Show Andy Stanley Video Derry on Instagram Sponsors: Give Central https://www.givecentral.org/ Download Youth Ministry University https://www.dymuniversity.com/a/10517/QbmGUcX2 Emory University – Candler School of Theology Candler.emory.edu/youthministryhacks

In this episode, Justin sits down with Derry Prenkert (from the My Third Decade Podcast on the DYM Podcast Network) to talk through hacks on how to create better alignment between the children’s ministry and student ministry so you can work better together and have an aligned vision from birth to high school. Morning After Ministry ShowAndy Stanley VideoDerry on InstagramSponsors:Give Centralhttps://www.givecentral.org/Download Youth Ministry Universityhttps://www.dymuniversity.com/a/10517/QbmGUcX2Emory University – Candler School of TheologyCandler.emory.edu/youthministryhacks

In this episode, Justin sits down with Derry Prenkert (from the My Third Decade Podcast on the DYM Podcast Network) to talk through hacks on how to create better alignment between the children’s ministry and student ministry so you can work better together and have an aligned vision from birth to high school. Morning After Ministry ShowAndy Stanley VideoDerry on InstagramSponsors:Give Centralhttps://www.givecentral.org/Download Youth Ministry Universityhttps://www.dymuniversity.com/a/10517/QbmGUcX2Emory University – Candler School of TheologyCandler.emory.edu/youthministryhacks

In this episode Frank sits down with Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade and friends of the show Kyle Creel and David Reed to talk about our recent Marvel Cinematic Universe re-watch to the lead up to Avengers: End Game. We talk favorite movies, least favorite movies, illustrations for youth ministry, and much more. Enjoy this special crossover episode with My Third Decade. ASK ME ANYTHING Be apart of Episode 100 and get free stuff! - http://bit.ly/15wFrank100 **Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes!** FREE 30 Day Trial of The DYM GOLD MEMBERSHIP - http://bit.ly/DYM30Free MENTIONED IN THE SHOW: - Watch the MCU in chronological order according to the MCU timeline: - Ironman didn't have a script: https://io9.gizmodo.com/jeff-bridges-admits-iron-man-movie-had-no-script-5417310?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=gizmodo_copy&utm_campaign=top - Universal and Disney came together to pull of Stan Lee's cameo in Captain Marvel: From Marvel Us Disney Podcast (story starts at 11:40) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marvel-us-disney-episode-29-james-gunn-reinstated-as/id1412774662?i=1000432844333 - Kevin Smith shares about that cameo (Warning: In the words of Captain America, “LANGUAGE!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0gsV9J7Ts - Stan Lee is a Watcher theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxFDfpZDbI - Filming the Shawarma post-credit scenes in Avengers: https://youtu.be/2bR06fKnrCg Be Kyle Creel's friend on Facebook: http://facebook.com/kylecreel Follow David Reed: @DavidAllenReed on Twitter and Instagram Follow Derry Prenkert: @derryprenkert on Twitter and Instagram Follow the podcast online! -https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/15-minutes-with-frank/ -http://Instagram.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank -https://facebook.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank Follow Frank! -http://frankgil.me -http://instagram.com/pastor_tank -http://facebook.com/pastortank -http://twitter.com/pastor_tank SPONSOR - Train Your Leaders with DYM University - http://bit.ly/DYMUniversity SPONSOR - Give Central - http://givecentral.org Graduation Resources: Sermon Series - Three Things You Won't Hear at Your High School Graduation - http://bit.ly/3thingsgrad GAME - Roll Away Graduation Edition - http://bit.ly/RollAwayGraduation More Resources: Summer Small Group Series: http://bit.ly/2vmhdtM Roll Away Marvel Edition - http://bit.ly/2InGRGN

In this episode Frank sits down with Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade and friends of the show Kyle Creel and David Reed to talk about our recent Marvel Cinematic Universe re-watch to the lead up to Avengers: End Game. We talk favorite movies, least favorite movies, illustrations for youth ministry, and much more. Enjoy this special crossover episode with My Third Decade. ASK ME ANYTHING Be apart of Episode 100 and get free stuff! - http://bit.ly/15wFrank100 **Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes!** FREE 30 Day Trial of The DYM GOLD MEMBERSHIP - http://bit.ly/DYM30Free MENTIONED IN THE SHOW: - Watch the MCU in chronological order according to the MCU timeline: - Ironman didn't have a script: https://io9.gizmodo.com/jeff-bridges-admits-iron-man-movie-had-no-script-5417310?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=gizmodo_copy&utm_campaign=top - Universal and Disney came together to pull of Stan Lee's cameo in Captain Marvel: From Marvel Us Disney Podcast (story starts at 11:40) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marvel-us-disney-episode-29-james-gunn-reinstated-as/id1412774662?i=1000432844333 - Kevin Smith shares about that cameo (Warning: In the words of Captain America, “LANGUAGE!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0gsV9J7Ts - Stan Lee is a Watcher theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxFDfpZDbI - Filming the Shawarma post-credit scenes in Avengers: https://youtu.be/2bR06fKnrCg Be Kyle Creel's friend on Facebook: http://facebook.com/kylecreel Follow David Reed: @DavidAllenReed on Twitter and Instagram Follow Derry Prenkert: @derryprenkert on Twitter and Instagram Follow the podcast online! -https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/15-minutes-with-frank/ -http://Instagram.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank -https://facebook.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank Follow Frank! -http://frankgil.me -http://instagram.com/pastor_tank -http://facebook.com/pastortank -http://twitter.com/pastor_tank SPONSOR - Train Your Leaders with DYM University - http://bit.ly/DYMUniversity SPONSOR - Give Central - http://givecentral.org Graduation Resources: Sermon Series - Three Things You Won't Hear at Your High School Graduation - http://bit.ly/3thingsgrad GAME - Roll Away Graduation Edition - http://bit.ly/RollAwayGraduation More Resources: Summer Small Group Series: http://bit.ly/2vmhdtM Roll Away Marvel Edition - http://bit.ly/2InGRGN

In this episode Frank sits down with Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade and friends of the show Kyle Creel and David Reed to talk about our recent Marvel Cinematic Universe re-watch to the lead up to Avengers: End Game. We talk favorite movies, least favorite movies, illustrations for youth ministry, and much more. Enjoy this special crossover episode with My Third Decade.ASK ME ANYTHINGBe apart of Episode 100 and get free stuff! - http://bit.ly/15wFrank100 **Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes!**FREE 30 Day Trial of The DYM GOLD MEMBERSHIP - http://bit.ly/DYM30Free MENTIONED IN THE SHOW: - Watch the MCU in chronological order according to the MCU timeline: - Ironman didn’t have a script: https://io9.gizmodo.com/jeff-bridges-admits-iron-man-movie-had-no-script-5417310?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=gizmodo_copy&utm_campaign=top- Universal and Disney came together to pull of Stan Lee’s cameo in Captain Marvel: From Marvel Us Disney Podcast (story starts at 11:40) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marvel-us-disney-episode-29-james-gunn-reinstated-as/id1412774662?i=1000432844333 - Kevin Smith shares about that cameo (Warning: In the words of Captain America, “LANGUAGE!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0gsV9J7Ts- Stan Lee is a Watcher theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxFDfpZDbI- Filming the Shawarma post-credit scenes in Avengers: https://youtu.be/2bR06fKnrCg Be Kyle Creel’s friend on Facebook: http://facebook.com/kylecreelFollow David Reed: @DavidAllenReed on Twitter and InstagramFollow Derry Prenkert: @derryprenkert on Twitter and InstagramFollow the podcast online!-https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/15-minutes-with-frank/ -http://Instagram.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank -https://facebook.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank Follow Frank!-http://frankgil.me-http://instagram.com/pastor_tank-http://facebook.com/pastortank-http://twitter.com/pastor_tankSPONSOR - Train Your Leaders with DYM University - http://bit.ly/DYMUniversitySPONSOR - Give Central - http://givecentral.orgGraduation Resources:Sermon Series - Three Things You Won't Hear at Your High School Graduation - http://bit.ly/3thingsgrad GAME - Roll Away Graduation Edition - http://bit.ly/RollAwayGraduation More Resources:Summer Small Group Series: http://bit.ly/2vmhdtM Roll Away Marvel Edition - http://bit.ly/2InGRGN

In this episode Frank sits down with Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade and friends of the show Kyle Creel and David Reed to talk about our recent Marvel Cinematic Universe re-watch to the lead up to Avengers: End Game. We talk favorite movies, least favorite movies, illustrations for youth ministry, and much more. Enjoy this special crossover episode with My Third Decade.ASK ME ANYTHINGBe apart of Episode 100 and get free stuff! - http://bit.ly/15wFrank100 **Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes!**FREE 30 Day Trial of The DYM GOLD MEMBERSHIP - http://bit.ly/DYM30Free MENTIONED IN THE SHOW: - Watch the MCU in chronological order according to the MCU timeline: - Ironman didn’t have a script: https://io9.gizmodo.com/jeff-bridges-admits-iron-man-movie-had-no-script-5417310?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=gizmodo_copy&utm_campaign=top- Universal and Disney came together to pull of Stan Lee’s cameo in Captain Marvel: From Marvel Us Disney Podcast (story starts at 11:40) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marvel-us-disney-episode-29-james-gunn-reinstated-as/id1412774662?i=1000432844333 - Kevin Smith shares about that cameo (Warning: In the words of Captain America, “LANGUAGE!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0gsV9J7Ts- Stan Lee is a Watcher theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxFDfpZDbI- Filming the Shawarma post-credit scenes in Avengers: https://youtu.be/2bR06fKnrCg Be Kyle Creel’s friend on Facebook: http://facebook.com/kylecreelFollow David Reed: @DavidAllenReed on Twitter and InstagramFollow Derry Prenkert: @derryprenkert on Twitter and InstagramFollow the podcast online!-https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/15-minutes-with-frank/ -http://Instagram.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank -https://facebook.com/fifteenminuteswithfrank Follow Frank!-http://frankgil.me-http://instagram.com/pastor_tank-http://facebook.com/pastortank-http://twitter.com/pastor_tankSPONSOR - Train Your Leaders with DYM University - http://bit.ly/DYMUniversitySPONSOR - Give Central - http://givecentral.orgGraduation Resources:Sermon Series - Three Things You Won't Hear at Your High School Graduation - http://bit.ly/3thingsgrad GAME - Roll Away Graduation Edition - http://bit.ly/RollAwayGraduation More Resources:Summer Small Group Series: http://bit.ly/2vmhdtM Roll Away Marvel Edition - http://bit.ly/2InGRGN

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here: Run the Race Official Site http://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Race https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkert https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers' ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope. In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what's possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here: Run the Race Official Site http://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Race https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkert https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers' ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope. In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what's possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here: Run the Race Official Site http://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Race https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkert https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers' ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope. In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what's possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here: Run the Race Official Site http://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Race https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkert https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers' ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope. In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what's possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here:Run the Race Official Sitehttp://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Racehttps://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkerthttps://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother’s death and his father’s abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers’ ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope.In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what’s possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here:Run the Race Official Sitehttp://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Racehttps://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkerthttps://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers' ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope.In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what's possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

Run the Race is in theaters February 22nd, 2019! A great inspirational film for your youth group or family with great themes to discuss together. Enjoy this special show with executive producer Robby Tebow! Derry Prenkert, host of the My Third Decade podcast here on the DYM Podcast Network, speaks with him in this exclusive interview just 10 days before release. If you don't subscribe to My Third Decade, please make sure you find his show here:Run the Race Official Sitehttp://runtheracemovie.com DYM's Youth Event Guide for Run the Racehttps://www.downloadyouthministry.com/run-the-race-youth-event-guide My Third Decade in Youth Ministry Podcast w/Derry Prenkerthttps://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Reeling from his mother’s death and his father’s abandonment, Zach, an All-State athlete, finds glory on the football field, working to earn a college scholarship and the brothers’ ticket out of town. When a devastating injury puts Zach—and his dreams—on the sidelines, David laces up his track cleats to salvage their future and point Zach toward hope.In theaters February 22nd, RUN THE RACE shows what’s possible when you run to—instead of from—the overwhelming love of God.

The Scriptures tell us with great clarity that all human beings have been made by God, in the image of God, and for a relationship with God. But the reality of life in our post-fall world has left everything broken, including all human beings. This brokenness touches us all deeply, but in a variety of different ways. This includes the many types of physical and cognitive disabilities in our world. This means that our churches and youth groups must be places sensitive to the unique needs of those among us who are disabled. How can we best minister to the disabled, from birth through old age? How can we create welcoming, safe spaces that foster spiritual growth and development among the disabled? Stay with us as we learn about ministry to and with the disabled as we converse with Ashley Belknap, from a ministry called Engaging Disability With the Gospel, on this episode of Youth Culture Matters.

It was a busy week in ministry, as the weeks leading to Christmas often are. We were both preaching yesterday, and Andrew had a funeral and covered youth group as well. We talked church Christmas plans, and the excitement of some off time next week. Last week we were talking about how this would be the last show of 2018, and we wanted to do something fun. We reached out to our frineds in the DYM podcast network, and boy did they deliver. We ebded up with a favorite things bundle of ten resources that they gave us to give to you! Listen to the show to find out how to get great stuff from Justin Knowles, Derry Prenkert, Jeff Bauchman, and Frank Gil (as wel as a few things from us). We have a new resource out in the DYM store. It is a game called Dollar Store or So Much More: Christmas Edition. Students will have to decide if a bit of Christmas decore is available at the dollar store, or a higher end retailer. It is available here: http://bit.ly/DollarStoreGame If you are looking for any Christmas teaching or game ideas, we have a ton of Christmas resoyrces in the DYM store available here. http://bit.ly/2BuDVni We love all of our sponsors, and are especially thankful for what DYM University is doing in our churches. We are so glad we get to play with them! https://www.dymuniversity.com/?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dymuniversity.com%2Fa%2F10517%2FLoZRyZ9P Thanks to Dignity Memorial, Sea Salt & Oil Company, and Give Central for making our show possible. Check out our other resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsen Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.com

It was a busy week in ministry, as the weeks leading to Christmas often are. We were both preaching yesterday, and Andrew had a funeral and covered youth group as well. We talked church Christmas plans, and the excitement of some off time next week. Last week we were talking about how this would be the last show of 2018, and we wanted to do something fun. We reached out to our frineds in the DYM podcast network, and boy did they deliver. We ebded up with a favorite things bundle of ten resources that they gave us to give to you! Listen to the show to find out how to get great stuff from Justin Knowles, Derry Prenkert, Jeff Bauchman, and Frank Gil (as wel as a few things from us). We have a new resource out in the DYM store. It is a game called Dollar Store or So Much More: Christmas Edition. Students will have to decide if a bit of Christmas decore is available at the dollar store, or a higher end retailer. It is available here: http://bit.ly/DollarStoreGame If you are looking for any Christmas teaching or game ideas, we have a ton of Christmas resoyrces in the DYM store available here. http://bit.ly/2BuDVni We love all of our sponsors, and are especially thankful for what DYM University is doing in our churches. We are so glad we get to play with them! https://www.dymuniversity.com/?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dymuniversity.com%2Fa%2F10517%2FLoZRyZ9P Thanks to Dignity Memorial, Sea Salt & Oil Company, and Give Central for making our show possible. Check out our other resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsen Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.com

It was a busy week in ministry, as the weeks leading to Christmas often are. We were both preaching yesterday, and Andrew had a funeral and covered youth group as well. We talked church Christmas plans, and the excitement of some off time next week.Last week we were talking about how this would be the last show of 2018, and we wanted to do something fun. We reached out to our frineds in the DYM podcast network, and boy did they deliver. We ebded up with a favorite things bundle of ten resources that they gave us to give to you! Listen to the show to find out how to get great stuff from Justin Knowles, Derry Prenkert, Jeff Bauchman, and Frank Gil (as wel as a few things from us).We have a new resource out in the DYM store. It is a game called Dollar Store or So Much More: Christmas Edition. Students will have to decide if a bit of Christmas decore is available at the dollar store, or a higher end retailer. It is available here: http://bit.ly/DollarStoreGameIf you are looking for any Christmas teaching or game ideas, we have a ton of Christmas resoyrces in the DYM store available here. http://bit.ly/2BuDVniWe love all of our sponsors, and are especially thankful for what DYM University is doing in our churches. We are so glad we get to play with them! https://www.dymuniversity.com/?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dymuniversity.com%2Fa%2F10517%2FLoZRyZ9PThanks to Dignity Memorial, Sea Salt & Oil Company,and Give Central for making our show possible.Check out our other resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsenBe sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.com

Batman meets SupermanBrady meets ManningDickens meets TwainJames meets JordanStallone meets SchwarzeneggerLincoln meets Washington ...Or 88-year-old Clint Eastwood meets 96-year-old Betty White? It's the first-ever crossover podcast with our friend Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade! Derry is a veteran youth worker from Indiana and host of the My Third Decade podcast, another great youth ministry podcast dedicated to longevity. He has been at his church for 22 years, having started as an intern and now serving in a fresh role as Next Gen Pastor. He started My Third Decade about the same time we started Youth Ministry Sherpas. Together, we have 54 years of youth ministry experience in 3 churches (about 82 years overall!). It's all part of this new wave of old people doing youth ministry podcasts! Just kidding. Derry is only in his 40s; we are the ones who are old here. Anyway, we've wanted to do an episode together for a while, and we finally pulled it off. We talk about some of our most significant moments in our ministry life, about the challenges of transitions, and about what we've learned this year. It's a great conversation, proving it's never too late to make new friends and you are never too old to do a podcast. Episode 37 -- My Third Decade Meets Youth Ministry Sherpas Follow Derry's Podcast here:https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/ Derry's show is part of the Download Youth Ministry Podcast Network. There are a whole bunch of great shows here!https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/ Also mentioned on this episode:https://youthpastordiet.com/https://www.experiencechallenge.org/https://youthministrysherpas.com  

Batman meets SupermanBrady meets ManningDickens meets TwainJames meets JordanStallone meets SchwarzeneggerLincoln meets Washington...Or 88-year-old Clint Eastwood meets 96-year-old Betty White?It's the first-ever crossover podcast with our friend Derry Prenkert of My Third Decade!Derry is a veteran youth worker from Indiana and host of the My Third Decade podcast, another great youth ministry podcast dedicated to longevity. He has been at his church for 22 years, having started as an intern and now serving in a fresh role as Next Gen Pastor. He started My Third Decade about the same time we started Youth Ministry Sherpas. Together, we have 54 years of youth ministry experience in 3 churches (about 82 years overall!). It's all part of this new wave of old people doing youth ministry podcasts! Just kidding. Derry is only in his 40s; we are the ones who are old here.Anyway, we've wanted to do an episode together for a while, and we finally pulled it off. We talk about some of our most significant moments in our ministry life, about the challenges of transitions, and about what we've learned this year. It's a great conversation, proving it's never too late to make new friends and you are never too old to do a podcast.Episode 37 -- My Third Decade Meets Youth Ministry SherpasFollow Derry's Podcast here:https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/my-third-decade/Derry's show is part of the Download Youth Ministry Podcast Network. There are a whole bunch of great shows here!https://podcast.downloadyouthministry.com/Also mentioned on this episode:https://youthpastordiet.com/https://www.experiencechallenge.org/https://youthministrysherpas.com 

Tim was out being a youth pastor this morning, taking his kids to camp. He'll be back next week, and we'll have Derry Prenkert with us to talk all things camp. You won't want to miss it! Today we had Riley Lester in the hot seat. We talked about his weird path to full time employment, impending changes, and social evolution. It was a great show. Riley is the high schooll pastor, and only student ministry staffer, at Cross Pointe Church, a large multi site church in Georgia. He's been there a year. It is also Riley's first full time job in church world, despite finishing a church ministries degree four years ago. Riley felt God calling him to a specific kind of church setting, so instead of taking the first job he was offered, he volunteered and interned at churches that he would want to attend. This led to a year long residency and eventually a full time position, but it was certainly the path less taken. Riley is also about to get married. For the past year he has been in Georgia while his fiance, Savannah, has been in North West Arkansas. We talked about how his relationships and availability to his students would be shifting in the coming weeks and months. Finally, Riley and I (Andrew) talked about our relationship, and how it has changed from him being a student of mine, to now being one of my closest friends. We talked about the benefits of long term ministry, and why discipling individual students matters. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsen Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.com Thanks to Dignity Memorial, Peek Reach, and Give Central for making our show possible!

Tim was out being a youth pastor this morning, taking his kids to camp. He'll be back next week, and we'll have Derry Prenkert with us to talk all things camp. You won't want to miss it! Today we had Riley Lester in the hot seat. We talked about his weird path to full time employment, impending changes, and social evolution. It was a great show. Riley is the high schooll pastor, and only student ministry staffer, at Cross Pointe Church, a large multi site church in Georgia. He's been there a year. It is also Riley's first full time job in church world, despite finishing a church ministries degree four years ago. Riley felt God calling him to a specific kind of church setting, so instead of taking the first job he was offered, he volunteered and interned at churches that he would want to attend. This led to a year long residency and eventually a full time position, but it was certainly the path less taken. Riley is also about to get married. For the past year he has been in Georgia while his fiance, Savannah, has been in North West Arkansas. We talked about how his relationships and availability to his students would be shifting in the coming weeks and months. Finally, Riley and I (Andrew) talked about our relationship, and how it has changed from him being a student of mine, to now being one of my closest friends. We talked about the benefits of long term ministry, and why discipling individual students matters. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8 Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/ instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsen Be sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.com Thanks to Dignity Memorial, Peek Reach, and Give Central for making our show possible!

Tim was out being a youth pastor this morning, taking his kids to camp. He'll be back next week, and we'll have Derry Prenkert with us to talk all things camp. You won't want to miss it! Today we had Riley Lester in the hot seat. We talked about his weird path to full time employment, impending changes, and social evolution. It was a great show.Riley is the high schooll pastor, and only student ministry staffer, at Cross Pointe Church, a large multi site church in Georgia. He's been there a year. It is also Riley's first full time job in church world, despite finishing a church ministries degree four years ago. Riley felt God calling him to a specific kind of church setting, so instead of taking the first job he was offered, he volunteered and interned at churches that he would want to attend. This led to a year long residency and eventually a full time position, but it was certainly the path less taken. Riley is also about to get married. For the past year he has been in Georgia while his fiance, Savannah, has been in North West Arkansas. We talked about how his relationships and availability to his students would be shifting in the coming weeks and months.Finally, Riley and I (Andrew) talked about our relationship, and how it has changed from him being a student of mine, to now being one of my closest friends. We talked about the benefits of long term ministry, and why discipling individual students matters. Check out our resources in the DYM store here: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=8Be sure to like The Morning After Ministry on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/morningafterministry/instagram.com/morningaftermin and twitter.com/morningaftermin. You can also find Tim @t00th and Andrew @andrewlarsenBe sure to check out the other shows in the DYM Podcast Network at podcast.downloadyouthministry.comThanks to Dignity Memorial, Peek Reach, and Give Central for making our show possible!

Welcome to... my podcast. In this episode you will get to know me, Derry Prenkert, and hear what the point of this podcast really is. Check out Nappanee, Indiana: The promo piece put out by the city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtM2D5R_e0 A video made by our HSM students for an Outreach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ASJk9NdZ0 Check out Nappanee Missionary Church: The church website: http://www.nmc.church A message from Pastor Dave Engbrecht conveying the church vision and mission: https://nmc.church/media/sermon-series/nmc101-our-mission-our-vision-our-values/ The Podcast on the Web (Follow Me): Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/mythirddecade Follow on Twitter and Instagram @derryprenkert Check out Derry's resources on Download Youth Ministry: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=28

Welcome to... my podcast.In this episode you will get to know me, Derry Prenkert, and hear what the point of this podcast really is.Check out Nappanee, Indiana:The promo piece put out by the city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtM2D5R_e0 A video made by our HSM students for an Outreach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ASJk9NdZ0 Check out Nappanee Missionary Church:The church website: http://www.nmc.churchA message from Pastor Dave Engbrecht conveying the church vision and mission: https://nmc.church/media/sermon-series/nmc101-our-mission-our-vision-our-values/ The Podcast on the Web (Follow Me):Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/mythirddecadeFollow on Twitter and Instagram @derryprenkertCheck out Derry's resources on Download Youth Ministry: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=28

Welcome to... my podcast.In this episode you will get to know me, Derry Prenkert, and hear what the point of this podcast really is.Check out Nappanee, Indiana:The promo piece put out by the city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtM2D5R_e0 A video made by our HSM students for an Outreach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ASJk9NdZ0 Check out Nappanee Missionary Church:The church website: http://www.nmc.churchA message from Pastor Dave Engbrecht conveying the church vision and mission: https://nmc.church/media/sermon-series/nmc101-our-mission-our-vision-our-values/ The Podcast on the Web (Follow Me):Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/mythirddecadeFollow on Twitter and Instagram @derryprenkertCheck out Derry's resources on Download Youth Ministry: https://www.downloadyouthministry.com/shop?author=28

In episode 23 of The Student Ministry Podcast, Steve interviews Derry Prenkert, the student ministries pastor at Nappanee Missionary Church in Nappanee, Indiana, where he has served for over 21 years. Derry has learned a lot over the years, especially in connecting with new students. His humble heart is one we can all learn from, and we know you will enjoy this conversation!   Connect with Derry on Facebook: facebook.com/derryprenkert   Connect with Derry on Twitter: @derryprenkert   Check out Derry's stuff on Download Youth Ministry!   Follow Steve on Twitter: @stevecullum   Follow the podcast on Twitter: @stuminpod   If you like what you hear, be sure to like, subscribe, share, and comment! Thanks and may God bless your ministry!   Sponsor for this episode of the Student Ministry Podcast:   workcampNE   National Network of Youth Ministries   Reach Youth New England     If you would like to support The Student Ministry Podcast, check out our website and click the "Become a Patron" button: http://thestudentministrypodcast.com  

In this episode Justin sits down and chats with Derry Prenkert. With 20+ years serving at the same church, Derry has been able to craft a plethora of experiences and resources that help students and parents in their spiritual journey. It is because of this we wanted to hear some of the hacks he has learned thoughout the years to be in one place for so long. I don't know about you, but this is a personal goal of mine and we know youth workers do not have the best reputation for staying put.  We hope this conversation can give you practical hacks on how to be in ministry for the long haul. You can find Derry at the links below: DYM Resources Instagram Facebook

In this episode Justin sits down and chats with Derry Prenkert. With 20+ years serving at the same church, Derry has been able to craft a plethora of experiences and resources that help students and parents in their spiritual journey. It is because of this we wanted to hear some of the hacks he has learned thoughout the years to be in one place for so long. I don't know about you, but this is a personal goal of mine and we know youth workers do not have the best reputation for staying put. We hope this conversation can give you practical hacks on how to be in ministry for the long haul.You can find Derry at the links below:DYM ResourcesInstagramFacebook