That UFO Podcast

I joined the Night Shift crew for a loose, wide-ranging Doomer Friday conversation covering UFOs, disclosure, David Grusch, Trump's comments on UFO files, the possible alien.gov release, Spielberg's Disclosure Day, the state of the UFO conversation, and why the topic still hasn't fully crossed into the mainstream.We also get into Atlas of UFOs, cases like Kingman, Voronezh, Dalnegorsk and Frederick Valentich, the difference between disclosure and declaration, the role of Congress, and whether the public would actually care if the truth finally came out.A fun one, a weird one, and exactly what you'd expect from Doomer Friday.https://www.youtube.com/@NightShiftActual

Ben Woodruff returns to That UFO Podcast after a huge response to his first appearance.In this follow-up, Ben goes deeper into the parts of Skinwalker Ranch we did not fully cover last time, including the “Path of the Skinwalker,” strange activity around Homestead One, unusual cloud formations over the Triangle, biological anomalies, magnetic material found in a catfish, a bird species he says does not fit known raptors, and a skunk case involving three years of no decomposition.We also get into Ben's near-death experience, what he says happened when he was disconnected from linear time, and how that changed the way he views consciousness, perception, and the phenomena at the ranch.A strange, wide-ranging and deeply fascinating return conversation.https://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry

Luigi Vendittelli joins me to discuss S4: The Bob Lazar Story, Bob Lazar, and why he believes parts of the Lazar story are still missing.We talk about making the documentary, working closely with Bob, the S4 facility, Element 115, hidden hangar doors, Project Looking Glass, Project Sidekick, and the parts of Lazar's story that continue to divide opinion.This is a spoiler-heavy conversation for S4: The Bob Lazar Story.https://wearenotalone.com/

Nick Cook returns to the podcast to discuss the launch of the EXO Institute, why he believes the biggest barrier to change is not technology but consciousness, and why we may be approaching a major shift in how we understand reality.We talk about EXO's goals, the overlap between consciousness and anomalous phenomena, the modern UAP conversation, political promises of more disclosure, the UK versus US approach to the topic, and the deeper patterns Nick believes sit beneath the mystery.Nick is a former Jane's Defence Weekly editor and the author of The Hunt for Zero Point. In this conversation, he lays out why he thinks we are on the cusp of something very different and very new.https://nickcook.substack.com/https://www.exoinstitute.io/

Donald Trump says UFO material is coming, Anna Paulina Luna keeps pointing people to the Book of Enoch, and the missing scientists story continues to raise serious questions.In this latest news update, Andy, joined by 'Others from another mother' host, Dan Cleary, breaks down the biggest talking points in UFO disclosure right now, including the promised files and videos, the role of Jeremy Corbell, the religious angle creeping further into the conversation, and whether any of this is building towards a genuine turning point.A big, thought-provoking discussion on where the UFO topic stands right now.https://www.youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast

Hims Promo Code - http://hims.com/thatufoAndy is joined by researcher and author Patrick Jackson to discuss his controversial Sphere Network theory. In this conversation, Patrick lays out his belief that poltergeist activity, luminous spheres and a much wider hidden system may all be connected. The discussion covers his early experiences, the case that pushed him toward this line of research, how he believes these spheres behave, why he thinks they form a hidden network, and how that theory fits into the broader UFO conversation. Andy also challenges Patrick on how he vets sightings, public cases that may be misidentified, and why he believes more people may begin seeing these objects in the years ahead.https://amzn.eu/d/01zrSN4J

In this news update, Andy is joined by Dan to discuss Bob Lazar's return to the headlines, the new S4 documentary, and the fallout from the Chuck Clark footage finally appearing online. They get into whether the film adds anything genuinely new, how Lazar's story has evolved over time, and why the newly surfaced clip has left so many people arguing over what it really shows. Also in this episode: Anna Paulina Luna's request for 46 videos, the latest missing scientist discussion, and Kacey Musgraves' alleged orb sighting.

Whitley Strieber returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss Transformation 2026, and this is one of the most personal and unsettling conversations we've had.Whitley reflects on the terrifying night he believed his young son had been taken, the wider impact these experiences had on his family, and why he feels the world may be moving toward a form of disclosure that will affect far more than politics. We also get into hybrids, telepathy, trauma, religion, consciousness, and what life could look like in a genuine post-disclosure world.Whether you agree with Whitley or not, this is a fascinating deep dive into one of the most controversial voices in the UFO conversation.In this episode:The night Whitley thought his son had been takenWhy he brought Transformation back in 2026How these experiences affected his familyHis thoughts on disclosure and ontological shockWhy he rejects the idea that the visitors are simply demonic or angelicHybrids, telepathy, and the long-term human implications of contacthttps://amzn.eu/d/047yo6dc

In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.Check out Ben's workhttps://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconryhttps://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/

Ben Woodruff joins me to talk about his background as a biologist, his own childhood UFO sighting, and how he ended up working on Skinwalker Ranch before the TV series began.In Part 1, we get into what Ben says he experienced during his earliest time on the ranch, including strange voices, unsettling activity inside the ranch house, and the biological anomalies that first made him realise this place was different. We also discuss the balance between real science and television, what frustrates him about NDA restrictions, and a remarkable story involving one of his trained falcons that he says disappeared in front of them during an experiment on the ranch.This is a fascinating opening half of a conversation that builds from personal experience into some of the biggest claims Ben says he has witnessed firsthand.Check out Ben's workhttps://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconryhttps://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/

On the 60th anniversary of the Westall incident, I'm re-releasing this conversation with researcher Shane Ryan, originally recorded in December 2022.Shane has spent years investigating one of the most remarkable mass sighting cases in UFO history: the 1966 Westall event in Melbourne, Australia, where students, teachers, and others reported seeing strange flying saucer-shaped objects over and near the school grounds.In this interview, Shane breaks down what witnesses said they saw, the reported aftermath on the ground, the response from authorities, and why the case still stands as one of the most important and debated schoolyard UFO encounters ever reported.If you're new to the Westall case, or want to revisit one of the most compelling incidents from outside the United States, this is a great place to start.

On this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by Dan Zetterstrom to break down one of the busiest weeks in the UFO space.They get into Matt Gaetz and the alien hybrid briefing claims, Tim Burchett's latest comments about what he says would keep the public up at night, and Anna Paulina Luna's push for specific UAP videos from Pete Hegseth by April 14th. They also discuss the mystery around General Neil McCasland, the strange appearance of aliens.gov, Bill Maher's recent UFO segment, new projects linked to Steven Greer and Bob Lazar, and the latest on Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day movie.A wide ranging news roundup with plenty to dig into. Sign up to the paid feeds for an extra hour of content from this episode!Check out Dan's work - https://www.tobehumanshow.com/

Andy is joined by documentary filmmaker Darcy Weir to discuss his film Dark Alliance: The Inside Story of the Cosmic Con and the wider world of Secret Space Program claims, Corey Goode, David Wilcock and the ecosystem that has grown around some of the biggest personalities in ufology.They talk about why these stories gain traction, the crossover between entertainment and belief, the role of platforms like Gaia, and how difficult it can be for audiences to separate genuine mystery from elaborate storytelling. They also touch on Steven Greer, Chris Bledsoe, Bob Lazar, whistleblowers, and why critical thinking matters more than ever in a space where extraordinary claims continue to spread.This is a conversation about belief, influence, exploitation, and the parts of the UFO topic that deserve much closer scrutiny.https://www.occultjourneys.com/

Author, researcher and explorer Timothy Alberino joins me for a deep dive into UFOs, ancient civilizations, biblical history and the mystery schools. We talk about Tim's formative years in Peru, his own close encounter, and why he sees the modern disclosure conversation as part of a much older and more complex story.https://timothyalberino.com/

Andy is back with a packed UFO news update after a couple of weeks away.This episode covers Matthew Brown's latest claims around Immaculate Constellation and why he says whistleblowers are being lured, targeted and trapped. Andy also looks at the still unresolved disappearance of retired Major General Neil McCasland, why the case is gaining more attention, and how the Monica Reza link is adding even more intrigue.There is also a scientific update on the work of Dr Beatriz Villarroel, with new research adding support to the idea that strange transient objects may have been captured on old pre-Sputnik sky survey plates. Plus, thoughts on the White House registering aliens.gov and alien.gov, what it may mean, and why expectations should stay in check.Also in this episode:Bob Lazar's new S4 documentarySteven Greer's Washington DC event in MayListener questions on Gary McKinnon, disclosure, AARO, whistleblowers and more

Andy answers listener questions on disclosure, secrecy, post-disclosure life, black triangles, biologics versus AI probes, the nature of the phenomenon, disinformation, standards of proof, and the voices in ufology that have influenced his thinking most.

James Fox returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss what he believes may be coming next from the US government, including the possibility of new UFO videos being released, what he's hearing from members of Congress, and why he thinks major developments could still lie ahead. We also talk AARO, secrecy, Roswell-era intimidation, witness pressure, Varginha, and whether disclosure is finally moving into a new phase.https://geni.us/MOC_NewRevelations

This omnibus brings together highlights from my first three conversations with Richard Dolan, covering the modern UFO story from 2017 to today. We discuss how the topic has changed through hearings, whistleblowers, David Grusch, AARO, and why USOs may be an increasingly important part of the mystery. A strong overview of where the conversation stands now from one of the most respected historians on the subject.https://richarddolanmembers.com/

On this episode of That UFO Podcast, I'm joined by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman to discuss the launch of their new podcast, Sound, Light, Frequency.Bryce returns to the show, while Brent makes his first appearance, and together we get into a wide-ranging conversation on Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, insider influence, and how entertainment may have shaped public perception of the UFO topic for decades.We discuss Brent's remarkable early experience being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to them around Dark Skies, whether those kinds of quiet conversations are still happening today, and what they now believe about the subject after years of working around it.We also talk about the new podcast, why now felt like the right time to launch it, what they hope to do with it, and how they see the current state of UFO disclosure in 2026.This is a fascinating discussion on storytelling, secrecy, media, and the ever-blurring line between fiction and reality.You can find Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts.

Mark Christopher Lee joins me to discuss the controversy surrounding his claims that President Trump was set to deliver a UFO disclosure speech on July 8.We discuss the two sources Mark says gave him the information, why he trusted them, what happened with the alleged May 1 Washington press conference, and why he now feels he may have been misled.We also talk about Mark's background in the UFO subject, the paranormal side of the phenomenon, and the wider issue of accountability when big claims are made in this topic.Marks work - https://amzn.eu/d/04m1AudO

In this news update, Andy breaks down one of the most interesting recent public conversations on UFOs, as Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein go back and forth on interdimensional language, David Grusch, physics, secrecy and why alleged crash-retrieval programs still seem so difficult to understand.Also in this episode: Weinstein's appearance on Piers Morgan, the renewed attention on Havana Syndrome after 60 Minutes, Eric Burlison's first site visit and why Pax River remains a facility of interest, Tim Burchett pressing President Trump on disclosure, Ross Coulthart's latest claims about withheld UAP videos, portal allegations, and the disappearance of General Neil McCasland.Topics include:Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein on American AlchemyGrusch, “interdimensional beings” and the language problemWhy alleged crash programs may not involve top physicistsPiers Morgan, Epstein, conspiracy language and UFO secrecyHavana Syndrome and why it matters to the wider conversationBurlison's site visit, Pax River and requests for specific UFO filesTim Burchett's latest comments on Trump and disclosureRoss Coulthart on withheld videos, portals and McCasland

In this UFO news update, Andy breaks down several significant developments in the ongoing UAP disclosure conversation.A sitting U.S. Congressman has revealed he received approval from the White House to visit facilities allegedly connected to reverse engineering programs involving non-human technology. The visit was scheduled for the end of February, raising the question of whether that inspection may have already taken place.At the same time, the Pentagon's UAP office, AARO, says it is now working directly with the White House to consolidate and release previously unseen UAP records.Also discussed in this episode:• Hillary Clinton questioned about UFO disclosure during a recent deposition• Ross Coulthart's report of an alleged restricted “portal” site in the United States• Avi Loeb and the Galileo Project building a scientific system to detect UAP• The reported disappearance of retired U.S. Air Force Major General Neil McCasland, previously linked to early disclosure discussions connected to Tom DeLongeTaken together, these developments suggest the UFO conversation continues to evolve at multiple levels — government oversight, scientific investigation, and public debate.

In this episode, Richard Dolan returns to discuss China's approach to the UFO phenomenon.From the Mao era suppression of UFO reports to the post-1976 explosion of sightings, we explore how China has handled unidentified aerial phenomena politically, culturally and militarily.We also examine:Whether China operates a structured military filtering system for UFO reportsHow reverse engineering might be approached inside a highly centralised stateWhether China or Russia would treat disclosure differently from the United StatesThe geopolitical implications of advanced non-human technologyThis conversation expands on our previous discussion and shifts the focus toward China's long-term strategy, national security culture and how the UFO question fits into a global context.Follow the show for weekly analysis, interviews and updates on the UFO topic.https://richarddolanmembers.com/

This week the UFO conversation did not explode but it shifted.No mention of UFOs in the State of the Union. The Pentagon confirms file reviews are underway. Luis Elizondo references 2027 and 2036. Jeremy Corbell debates Michael Shermer on mainstream television. Rumours of an artificial object continue to circulate. Gary McKinnon resurfaces in a rare interview. And Navy pilots Ryan Graves and Alex Dietrich call for transparency and patience.This episode is a pulse check on where the UFO topic stands right now.

Last week both Barack Obama and Donald Trump publicly addressed aliens and UFOs, triggering global reaction and renewed calls for transparency.But what if disclosure is not what people think it is?In this in depth conversation, Richard Dolan breaks down Trump's directive to identify and release UFO files, the role of the intelligence community, compartmentation inside the Department of Defense and Department of Energy, and why Presidents may not control the deepest secrets.We explore the difference between disclosure and contact, whether non human intelligences have any motivation to engage with humanity, and what realistic outcomes could follow from political pressure in Washington.Is meaningful disclosure actually possible, or are the structures of secrecy too deeply embedded?This is a sober analysis of where the UFO issue stands right now.https://richarddolanmembers.com/

A UFO so large it could not be transported. That was the claim made by investigative journalist Ross Coulthart in 2023. According to the story, a structure was built over the craft because it was simply too big to move, and the location was said to be outside of the United States.Since then, speculation has ranged from Pine Gap in Australia to secure facilities in Nevada and Europe. More recently, attention has focused on a specific site in South Korea.In this episode, Andy revisits the origins of the Too Big To Move claim and outlines the criteria such a site would need to meet, including long term security, government control, and the infrastructure to sustain secrecy.Researcher Ryan Purkey joins the show to examine the geography, tunnel systems, military presence, and scientific facilities that have brought renewed focus to the location near Anyang.Is this a credible investigative lead, or another case of speculation attaching itself to a secure installation? We break down what can be tested and what remains unverified.

In what may prove to be a historic week, both a former President and a sitting President have spoken openly about aliens and UFOs.Now the reaction is coming in from high-level voices across government and the UFO community.In this rapid update, Andy breaks down:• Congressman Jared Moskowitz suggesting bipartisan action• Jay Stratton calling this a landmark moment• Lue Elizondo thanking President Trump for taking steps toward disclosure• Chris Mellon warning of the complexities ahead• Senator Kirsten Gillibrand urging follow-through• Sean Kirkpatrick dismissing the entire moment as distractionIs this the beginning of meaningful action… or another cycle of political noise?Plus listener reactions and what could happen next.If you enjoy these timely updates, please follow the show and leave a review on your podcast platform. It makes a huge difference.

Breaking news.President Donald Trump has announced he will direct relevant U.S. government departments to identify and release files relating to UFOs, UAP and alien life.What does this actually mean?In this episode, Andy breaks down:• The exact wording of the statement• The Obama comments earlier this week• Whether this means declassification• What agencies could be involved• And what might realistically happen nextIs this disclosure? Or just another headline moment?

President Donald Trump is rumoured to have a speech prepared about extraterrestrial life and Lara Trump has just commented on it.In today's update, we break down what was said, the origins of the disclosure rumours, Steven Greer and Eric Burlison's buried UFO claims, and why Skywatcher is now over 12 months beyond its original public timeline.Let's get into it.

Former President Barack Obama has sparked a global reaction after saying “Aliens are real” during an interview with political commentator Brian Tyler Cohen.The clip has gone viral worldwide.But is it confirmation… or context taken out of a speed-round moment?In this 16-minute news update, I break down:• The exact quote• His follow-up clarification on Instagram• The Area 51 reference• Why he specifically said “during my presidency”• Whether this could be part of soft disclosure• And what it means for the broader UFO conversationObama previously addressed UFOs on The Late Late Show with James Corden, stating:“There are things I just can't tell you on air.”So what changed?Let me know your thoughts in the comments - was this scientific probability, a Freudian slip, or something more deliberate?

In Part 2 of this conversation, Joe McMoneagle discusses one of the most talked-about sessions in the history of remote viewing - the “Mars 1 Million BC” target.Joe explains: How the Mars target was conducted Why he was angry when he saw what the envelope said The verification attempt at JPL Time, perception, and viewing the future His thoughts on UFO crash sites Ethics, disclosure, and advanced civilizations This episode moves beyond intelligence operations into the philosophical and cosmic implications of remote viewing.If you've heard about the Mars session before, this is Joe explaining it directly.Joe's books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B00MD24CZW

In Part 1 of this two-part interview, former U.S. Army intelligence officer and Project Stargate remote viewer Joe McMoneagle reveals what it was really like inside America's psychic espionage program.We discuss: Joe's early life and UFO encounter in The Bahamas His recruitment into military intelligence The Soviet “super-submarine” case CIA operational missions Why remote viewing worked - and why it was controversial The internal battles that led to the program's closure This episode focuses on the operational side of remote viewing, the missions, the results, and the politics behind the scenes.Part 2 continues with the controversial “Ancient Mars” session and Joe's views on UFOs and advanced civilizations.Joe's books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B00MD24CZW

It's been a busy few weeks in the world of UFO news.In this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy breaks down newly released footage reportedly captured by an MQ-9 Reaper drone over the Jordanian-Syrian border, showing what appears to be instantaneous acceleration, one of the “five observables.”We also dive into newly surfaced Russian UFO files reportedly smuggled out by George Knapp in the 1990s, including mass sightings, alleged onboard encounters, and Soviet-era investigations into the phenomenon.Plus:• Congressman Eric Burlison discusses a classified location allegedly housing a massive craft too large to move • A potential new whistleblower on the horizon • Bob Lazar makes a surprise return during the “It's Probably Nothing” stage show • The latest Super Bowl trailer for Spielberg's Disclosure Day • Listener questions on document transfers, the UAP Disclosure Act, and whether any of this is realWith upcoming interviews featuring Richard Dolan and Joe McMoneagle, the conversation continues to evolve.Is this a calm before the storm, or the start of something bigger?

In this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by constitutional lawyer and New Paradigm Institute president Danny Sheehan for a wide-ranging discussion on UFO secrecy and the current state of disclosure.Sheehan explains why he believes Congress already has the constitutional authority to declassify UFO information, how whistleblower protections could change the landscape, and why public pressure is becoming impossible to ignore.The conversation also touches on testimony involving a deathbed confession of an alleged encounter with a non-human entity, raising deeper questions about how such accounts should be understood and evaluated.A timely and revealing discussion on power, secrecy, and the future of disclosure.https://newparadigminstitute.org/

In this episode, Andy is joined by Reed Summers, organiser of the UAP Detection and Tracking Summit, and Rich Hoffman, veteran UAP researcher and Strategic Advisor to the summit.The conversation focuses on why detection and tracking are now the most critical steps in UAP research, the limitations of leaked military footage, the growing role of citizen science, and why transparent, multi-sensor data is essential if the subject is ever to move beyond speculation.Reed and Rich discuss how modern technology makes civilian-led UAP detection possible, the importance of international data standards, and how public participation may be key to meaningful progress on the issue.This episode serves as a practical overview of the goals, thinking, and scientific approach behind the upcoming UAP Detection and Tracking Summit.Use Code UAPDetect30 or ThatUFOPodcast30 for 30% off your tickethttps://uapsummit.org/event/uap-summit-2026/

In part two, we move into the most unsettling and controversial testimony connected to Rendlesham Forest.Gary discusses accounts of beams of light directed into nuclear bunkers, grid-like scanning patterns over the base, and visual descriptions of a translucent wedge-shaped craft observed at close range.We also explore testimony describing a glowing fog near ground level, objects dividing into multiple forms, and reports of what appeared to be non-human beings seen near the craft during a silent encounter.Finally, we examine what these details imply, why they were rarely discussed publicly, and how they challenge conventional explanations of the incident.This is the side of the Rendlesham case that is almost never explored in mainstream coverage.https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN-Rendlesham-Forest-Incidents-Denial/dp/B0BVDF6W2Z

In part one of this conversation, Gary Heseltine breaks down the Rendlesham Forest incident from the ground up.We focus on the credibility of the witnesses involved, the fact that Rendlesham was not a single event but a series of multiple timed incidents, and why the location of the base as a nuclear weapons storage site changes how the case should be viewed.Gary also explains how the official story became streamlined over time, how key testimony was pushed aside, and why the Rendlesham narrative most people are familiar with does not reflect the full body of evidence.This episode sets the foundation for understanding why Rendlesham remains such a significant and unresolved case.https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN-Rendlesham-Forest-Incidents-Denial/dp/B0BVDF6W2Z

In this end of month news update, I break down some of the most important and under discussed developments in the UFO and UAP space as we head towards February 2026.Topics include new claims around detection and sensor limitations, recent FOIA refusals and media access restrictions revealed by The Black Vault, and renewed debate around the Nazca mummies.I also cover a notable article published in The Sunday Times suggesting central banks should consider the financial stability risks of a future UAP disclosure, followed by a clearly separated statement provided to me by former Bank of England analyst Helen McCaw. Her argument focuses on institutional culture, risk assessment, and why low probability, high impact scenarios can no longer be dismissed.The episode closes with listener questions, discussion around how the UAP conversation is spreading across society, and a look ahead at major space developments from China and NASA.https://uapsummit.org/event/uap-summit-2026/Discount Code - ThatUFOPodcast30

This special episode of That UFO Podcast pays tribute to Erich von Däniken, the Swiss author whose book Chariots of the Gods? helped popularise the ancient astronaut hypothesis and reshape public conversations about humanity's past.Erich von Däniken passed away on January 10th 2026 at the age of 90.In this episode, Andy reflects on von Däniken's life, influence, and the controversy surrounding his work, before sharing a short archival audio interview recorded several years ago ahead of von Däniken's appearance at Contact in the Desert.A respectful look at a figure whose ideas inspired curiosity, debate, and imagination for generations.Pick up "Chariots of the Gods" - https://amzn.eu/d/3bgUYPm

On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha.In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach.They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun videos that remain unseen, and why mainstream media once again failed to show up in force.The conversation also explores the limits of disclosure, whistleblower protections, national security concerns, and why for the public, it may now be bodies or craft or nothing at all.Is disclosure stalled, delayed, or simply waiting for undeniable proof.https://x.com/TheUfoJoe

This is a breaking news episode summarising today's UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil.Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures.The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event.Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X.

In Part 2, Matt Ford explains why he takes a confrontational stance online, calling out professional debunkers, media narratives, and institutional behaviour around UAPs.We discuss accountability, skepticism versus narrative management, and where the UFO conversation may be heading next.

In Part 1, journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford discusses his background, early interest in UFOs, personal experiences, and why stigma continues to shape the conversation.We explore how experiencers are affected by ridicule, why many stay silent for decades, and the human cost of dismissing the phenomenon outright.

In this special archival episode, we revisit a largely forgotten but highly significant moment in modern UFO history.In November 2007, international military, aviation, scientific, and government officials gathered at the National Press Club in Washington DC to publicly discuss their UFO encounters and official investigations, a full decade before the subject re-entered the mainstream conversation in 2017.Participants included senior figures from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Iran, Peru, and Chile, many of whom described incidents involving radar tracking, military interception, physical effects, and objects exhibiting performance beyond known technology.This episode is compiled from the original 2007 event recordings and is published with the explicit permission of filmmaker James Fox. Advertising on this episode supports the continued production and archiving of historical UFO material.The release of this archival event comes ahead of the upcoming National Press Club UAP press conference taking place in Washington DC on January 20th, where new witnesses and experts are expected to address the issue. A link to that event is included in the show notes.This episode is presented for historical and educational purposes and provides essential context for understanding how today's UFO discussion was shaped long before the current disclosure era.Check out the 20th January event here - https://www.youtube.com/@NationalPressClubLive/streams

In this episode, I'm joined once again by Avi Loeb, Harvard astrophysicist, head of the Galileo Project, and author of Extraterrestrial and Interstellar.We dive deep into 3I/ATLAS, the third known interstellar object ever detected, and why it has sparked intense scientific interest and public debate. Avi explains the unusual features of this object, including its anti-tail, orbital alignment, and chemical signatures, and why these anomalies deserve serious scrutiny.We also discuss the CIA's “neither confirm nor deny” response to records about 3I/ATLAS, the idea of black swan events, criticism of narrow SETI searches, and why institutional risk-aversion may be holding science back.This conversation explores interstellar visitors, scientific curiosity, stigma, and what discovering extraterrestrial technology would mean for humanity's future.Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8https://avi-loeb.medium.com/

At the start of 2026, the UFO disclosure conversation appears more fractured than ever. Andy is joined by journalist and Psicoactivo podcast host Pavel to break down David Grusch's recent comments on The Age of Disclosure, his criticism of senior intelligence figures, and the growing divide within the disclosure movement itself. From insider testimony and documentary narratives to experiencers, biologics, and public readiness, this episode explores where disclosure stands and where it may be heading next.Check out Pavel's work - https://allmylinks.com/pavelanchePatreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8

In Part 2, the conversation moves from history into consequences.Andy and Ryan examine how UFO skepticism evolved from scientific caution into something far more strategic. They explore radar interference theories, early claims of recovered craft, and whether figures like Donald Menzel knowingly participated in long-term counterintelligence efforts.The discussion expands into modern UFO debates, including skepticism versus debunking, the treatment of eyewitness testimony, belief systems, and why the burden of proof in UFO research remains uniquely high.This episode asks a difficult question: if skepticism was shaped by intelligence needs decades ago, are we still arguing inside rules that were set long before we knew they existed?Check out Ryan's work - https://unquestionably.substack.com/Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8

In this breaking news update, Andy covers a series of major developments shaping the UFO and UAP conversation as 2026 begins.The episode opens with the surprise appearance of a new book listing from Luis Elizondo. Titled Reckoning: The Unspoken Truth about UFOs and the Urgency of Now, the book has quietly appeared on publisher and retail sites with an expected 2026 release. Andy reads and analyses the full publisher blurb, discusses timing, positioning, and why this release matters coming from a former Pentagon insider.Attention then turns to David Grusch and his recent high-profile interview on The Megyn Kelly Show. Andy breaks down Grusch's comments on crash retrievals, legacy programs, misinformation campaigns, deep-state dynamics, and why Grusch appearing publicly now may be significant.The episode also covers:Congressional frustration over denied oversightClaims involving former intelligence leadershipOnline tensions within the disclosure communityThe CIA's “neither confirm nor deny” response regarding the interstellar object ‘Oumuamua / AtlasReactions from Avi Loeb, ahead of Andy's upcoming interview with himReflections on Chris Bledsoe's appearance on American AlchemyUpdates on potential upcoming press events and documentariesA wide-ranging but grounded look at what's happening, why it matters, and what may come next.Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8

You can order my book here - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOsUFO skepticism didn't begin with social media or YouTube debunkers.In Part 1 of this conversation, Andy is joined by researcher and writer Ryan Purkey to explore the early life and career of Donald H. Menzel, a Harvard astronomer, naval intelligence officer, and one of the most influential figures in shaping how UFOs would be publicly dismissed.This episode traces Menzel's rise through academia, his World War II work in cryptography and radar, and how those skills placed him at the heart of Cold War intelligence at the exact moment UFOs entered the public consciousness.From early crash recovery timelines to the foundations of organised skepticism, Part 1 sets the historical groundwork for understanding why the UFO topic looks the way it does today.Check out Ryan's work - https://unquestionably.substack.com/Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8

Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOsIn this special Ask Me Anything episode, Andy kicks off 2026 by answering listener questions from across the UFO community and reflecting on where the phenomenon stands after a turbulent 2025.Topics include disclosure fatigue, whistleblowers, underwater UFOs, public readiness, media responsibility, AI, citizen disclosure, and whether governments still control the narrative. Andy also looks ahead to what could genuinely move the needle in 2026, including upcoming hearings, whistleblower claims, major documentaries, and shifting public attitudes.This episode explores belief, skepticism, frustration, curiosity, and the uncomfortable reality that disclosure may not look the way anyone expects.Stay tuned for bonus content if you're a paid memberPatreon offer  - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8

Documentary filmmaker James Fox returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss new revelations surrounding Moment of Contact and the Varginha UFO case. From alleged crash retrievals and live beings to missing videos and military involvement, James explains why this case may be the most important of them all. Catch M.o.C here - https://geni.us/MOC_NewRevelations