TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast

Dark times call for stories of passion and resilience, and today's episode delivers just that. We're diving into the world of Star Wars-inspired folk music with the incredible band Folk the Empire. I had such a great time talking to Erik, Chris, and Mike and I hope you enjoy our wide-ranging coversation about how they formed, their unique blend of punk and folk, and the deep storytelling that infuses their music. If you've ever wondered what fight songs the Rebellion would rally behind, this episode is for you. Stick around to the end of the episode to hear one of their songs, and if you like what you hear, check them out on social media and support their upcoming EP "Rise Up" on Bandcamp which drops Friday March 7. 00:22 – Introduction to Folk the Empire: A band that merges Star Wars, folk music, and anti-fascist resistance. 01:07 – Meet the band: Erik (banjo), Chris (guitar), and Mike (cajon/percussion), their backgrounds, and how this project came to life. 02:22 – The origins of Folk the Empire: How a banjo, punk roots, and a rebel recruitment song started it all. 04:09 – Playing their first live show at a metal gig (!?) and the surprising support of the metal community. 07:40 – The importance of humor in Star Wars and protest music, and the role of folk music as 'news of the land.' 0:39 – Writing songs in the Star Wars universe: What would a Rebel pilot sing before a battle? What does life on Tatooine sound like? 6:13 – The power of allegory: Using Star Wars to talk about real-world politics and activism in a way that resonates. 19:56 – Introducing their in-universe personas: The Burgundy Squadron and their rebel radio past. 24:44 – Why folk music is the perfect vehicle for Star Wars storytelling. 30:42 – Playing live shows: The challenge of fitting in and their favorite gig experiences. 40:19 – Handling Star Wars fandom and avoiding toxic gatekeeping. 46:43 – The impact of Andor and what makes ‘gritty' Star Wars so powerful. 53:11 – The DIY spirit: Why making something by hand is more meaningful in the digital age. 58:51 – Upcoming releases: New cassette EP with amazing artwork inspired by classic Star Wars toys. 01:12:19 – If they could play any venue in the galaxy, where would it be? 1:18:08 – Where to find Folk the Empire and what song to start with. Follow Folk the Empire on Instagram: instagram.com/folk_the_empire Listen to their music on YOUTUBE: youtube.com/@FolktheEmpire Pre-Save the "RISE UP" EP: distrokid.com/hyperfollow/folktheempire/rise-up

Josh chats to returning guest DR. DAVID WEST REYNOLDS about his new documentary project, CHASING RAIDERS, which explores the real history and archaeology behind Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Josh chats with Patrick Cotnoir, producer of The George Lucas Talk Show, about the new documentary "I'm George Lucas: A Connor Ratliff Story.” Patrick discusses the origins of the show, its evolution during the pandemic, and shares behind-the-scenes insights into this unique comedy phenomenon.

Is Star Wars art or just more content? As Star Wars continues to thrive as a Disney franchise, can it maintain any artistic integrity, or was it always simply another product in the marketplace? We explore these questions and more, including: The transition from George Lucas's vision to Disney's corporate ownership. The impact of capitalism on artistic endeavors within the Star Wars universe. Whether the new era of Star Wars can still produce meaningful–even subversive–art.

Josh, Jonny, and special guest Ro from The Scarif Scuttlebutt Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/c/ScarifScuttlebuttPodcast) dive deep into George Lucas's 1971 feature film debut, THX 1138. We talk about the film's themes, its relevance today, and how it laid the groundwork for Lucas's later work, including Star Wars. We discuss: How THX 1138 offers a unique insight into George Lucas's artistic vision and themes that would later be explored in his Star Wars films. How the movie remains relevant today, as it examines the dehumanizing effects of technology and the struggle against oppressive systems. While the CGI additions in the 2004 Director's Cut are controversial, the original film remains a stunning example of low-budget, avant-garde science fiction filmmaking. THX 1138 can be seen as the first part of an informal trilogy, alongside American Graffiti and Star Wars, that explores the idea of leaving a small world to enter a larger one. CHAPTERS: 00:00:00 - Introduction and guest introductions 00:03:02 - Overall thoughts on THX 1138 and its insights into George Lucas as a filmmaker 00:18:19 - Relevance of THX 1138 in the age of AI and dehumanization through technology 00:23:07 - Comparison between the feature film and Lucas's original student short 00:30:06 - The character of SEN 5241 (Donald Pleasence) and his role in the story 00:34:19 - The music of THX 1138, composed by Lalo Schifrin 00:35:37 - Thoughts on the controversial CGI additions in the 2004 Director's Cut 00:42:48 - Parallels between THX 1138 and the Andor prison arc in Star Wars 00:45:41 - The relationship between humans and technology in George Lucas's films 00:52:53 - THX 1138's stunning visuals and low-budget filmmaking 00:56:47 - Closing thoughts on THX 1138 and its place in George Lucas's filmography WATCH THX 1138 on Amazon Prime: https://amzn.to/49Pcq4D BUY THX 1138 on Bluray: https://amzn.to/3w8NQ0U BUY THX 1138 on DVD: https://amzn.to/4dpcICz (Purchasing through these affiliate links will earn us a very small commission. Thanks for supporting the show!) =============== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US youtube.com/@trashcompod instragram.com/trashcompod tiktok.com/@trashcompod EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Join us for a special bonus episode celebrating the 25th anniversary of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace! We've compiled highlights from past episodes where we discussed topics related to this groundbreaking film. Hear insights from Dan Madsen, former head of the Lucasfilm fan club, and Dr. David West Reynolds, co-editor of the Episode 1 teaser trailer, as they share their experiences and perspectives on the hype and excitement leading up to the movie's release. Plus, hosts Josh and Chris reminisce about their own memories of seeing The Phantom Menace for the first time. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Josh: Introduction 00:01:32 - Dan Madsen: Experience at Lucasfilm 00:04:21 - Dr. David West Reynolds: Crafting the Episode 1 Teaser Trailer 00:05:52 - Dan Madsen: Reaction to the Final Trailer 00:06:57 - Dr. David West Reynolds: Debating Reveals and Spoilers in the Trailer 00:07:47 - Dan Madsen: The Excitement and Anticipation Leading Up to Episode 1 00:09:38 - Dr. David West Reynolds: George Lucas's Vision for the Prequels 00:10:24 - Dan Madsen: The Legacy of The Phantom Menace 00:11:06 - Dr. David West Reynolds: George Lucas's Foresight and Long-Term Storytelling 00:12:14 - Dan Madsen: The Changing Perception of the Prequels 00:13:31 - Dr. David West Reynolds: Vindication of George Lucas's Vision 00:14:16 - Dan Madsen: George Lucas Having the Last Laugh 00:14:52 - Dr. David West Reynolds: Letting Go of Expectations 00:15:31 - Josh: Difficulty in Being Objective About the Movie 00:15:46 - Chris: Memories of Seeing Episode 1 00:23:31 - Josh: Conclusion Don't miss our next full episode, where we'll be discussing George Lucas's first feature film, THX 1138, dropping on Tuesday, May 7th. Be sure to follow us on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube @TrashComPod for more Star Wars content and updates! StarWars #ThePhantomMenace #Lucasfilm #MayTheFourth =============== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US youtube.com/@trashcompod instragram.com/trashcompod tiktok.com/@trashcompod EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Josh is joined by the hosts of THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLERS Podcast: Peter Holmstrom, and Daniel Noa, and delve into the eponymous TV series, The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Discover the groundbreaking production techniques, the educational value, and the passion that George Lucas poured into the often overlooked series. Learn how the series served as a testing ground for the digital technology and production techniques that would later be used in the Star Wars prequel trilogy. Explore the themes of disillusionment and the loss of innocence that are present in both The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and Lucas's later work. Whether you're a die-hard Indiana Jones fan or simply interested in the history of film and television, this episode is a fascinating look at a lost relic of George Lucas's filmography. Chapters: [00:00:00] Introduction [00:01:55] The origins of The Young Indy Chroniclers podcast [00:04:53] Young Indy's role in pushing filmmaking technology forward [00:11:53] The educational goals of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles [00:16:59] How George Lucas almost revolutionized television in 1992 [00:21:43] The cinematic scope and ambition of Young Indy [00:24:27] George Lucas's hands-on involvement in the series [00:28:37] Young Indy as a fusion of Lucas's interests and passions [00:33:18] The connection between Young Indy's cancellation and the Star Wars prequels [00:38:43] Recommended episodes for new viewers [00:42:35] Young Indy as an entry point for Indiana Jones fans [00:50:24] The groundbreaking nature of Young Indy for a TV series [00:54:01] Young Indy as George Lucas's passion project [00:58:08] The hosts' growing appreciation for the series [01:02:54] Thematic connections between Young Indy and the Star Wars prequels [01:06:37] The hosts' hopes for the podcast's impact [01:09:41] Conclusion =============== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US youtube.com/@trashcompod instragram.com/trashcompod tiktok.com/@trashcompod EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

In this episode, Josh interviews Dr. David West Reynolds about his unbelievable journey from archaeologist to editing the hugely-anticipated teaser trailer for Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999). Show Notes: Learn how Dr. Reynolds went from earning his PhD researching ancient sites to launching an expedition in Tunisia to uncover forgotten Star Wars filming locations from the first movie. Hear the serendipitous story behind producer Rick McCallum connecting with Dr. Reynolds' work and bringing him on board to help scout new desert planets for the prequels. Get a peek inside Skywalker Ranch and Lucasfilm during the production of The Phantom Menace leading up to the trailer's debut. Find out what it was like collaborating with "the best trailer editor in Hollywood" to shape two minutes that would preview this new era of Star Wars to anxious fans everywhere. Listen as Dr. Reynolds details the conversations and debates that determined which Phantom Menace scenes and surprises to tease or preserve for theaters. Discover why choices for the trailer were so complex given filmmaker George Lucas' wildly different vision for the prequels compared to what adult fans may have hoped for. Whether you were one of those avid fans who watched the trailer frame-by-frame in '98 or simply want an insider's look at this seminal pop culture event, join Josh for a compelling chat with Dr. David West Reynolds! For more about Dr. Reynolds, visit www.DavidWestReynolds.com =============== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US youtube.com/@trashcompod instragram.com/trashcompod tiktok.com/@trashcompod EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Welcome to a special episode of Trash Compactor, part of the Star Wars Podcast Day 2024 celebration! This year, we're not only joining forces with podcasts around the galaxy to honor #StarWarsPodcastDay2024, but we're also commemorating the 25th anniversary of the pioneering Star Wars podcast, Jedi Talk, which debuted on this very day in 1999. For those tuning in for the first time, we're a group of cinephiles and pop culture enthusiasts who dive deep into the realms of filmmaking, technology, and, of course, all things Star Wars. Our discussions range from in-depth analyses of the Star Wars saga and explorations of how Star Wars intersects with other elements of (pop) culture. In this episode, we delve into a question that's been sparking curiosity across the galaxy: "What Does George Lucas Think About AI in Filmmaking?" As the visionary behind the Star Wars universe and a trailblazer in digital cinema, George Lucas's perspective on the rise of generative AI technologies like ChatGPT and MidJourney is a topic ripe for exploration. Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey through the potential implications, challenges, and opportunities that AI presents to the creative process in filmmaking.

We're joined by editors Dr. Emily Strand and Dr. Amy H. Sturgis to discuss their new essay collection "STAR WARS: ESSAYS FROM A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY." From in-universe lore to real-world influences, this compilation of academic analysis reveals new depths even diehard fans may have missed. Guest Info: Dr. Emily Strand Website: www.emilystrand.com & liturgyandlife.com Co-host of podcasts "Potterversity” and “Meet Father Rivers" Dr. Amy H. Sturgis Website: www.amyhsturgis.com Professor of intellectual history and speculative fiction Book Info: "STAR WARS: ESSAYS FROM A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY" Available via Vernon Press: https://vernonpress.com/book/1751 OR request it from your local library! =============== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US youtube.com/@trashcompod instragram.com/trashcompod tiktok.com/@trashcompod EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Another installment of our alternate universe what ifs: what if the sequel trilogy was made in the 1990s? Following up on our Prequels 1986 episode (www.trashcompod.com/13), we continue the experiment and imagine who might have been cast in and chosen to direct the sequel films if they had been made in 1995, 1998, and 2001. We also ask the question: would Star Wars be able to attract A-list talent if there was a new installment every 3 years since 1977? TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Josh's sister grew up in the shadow of a huge Star Wars nerd. She also married one! Josh talks to both ALLIE and SHAWN after they embarked on a chronological rewatch of all the movies in preparation for one of the Disney+ shows to drop. What were their impressions of the Saga as a whole when watching them in story order? Along the way, we get into childhood memories of Star Wars, why we want these movies to work, and at what scene you had to flip over the laserdisc of A New Hope. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Most of the gang here grew up with the original trilogy as the only Star Wars there was. I've been curious to get the perspectives of people who grew up with the prequels. This week I chat with OriginalTrilogy.com forum member Octorox, aka Keith, about his experience getting into Star Wars in the time of the prequels as a kid. NEXT WEEK: My sister drops into the trash compactor! TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

BRACEY and JONNY join Josh to discuss the final Star Wars prequel, Episode III: REVENGE OF THE SITH. We talk about how our perception of this movie has changed over time, whether it's the best of the prequels, and how it contains George Lucas's definitive statement on life. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

More than 20 years before Revenge of the Sith would grace our screens, there was STAR WARS 3: FALL OF THE REPUBLIC (From the Adventures of Obi-Wan Kenobi). This infamous fan script made the rounds in fandom for years, many believing it to be the actual script for the third prequel film--years before George Lucas ever wrote them. Josh, who himself acquired a copy of this script at a Star Trek convention in the early 1990s, sits down with the author of Fall of the Republic, DR. JOHN L. FLYNN, to discuss how it came to be, what it feels like to be a small part of Star Wars history, and a surprising amount about Angelique Pettyjohn. Read Dr. Flynn's FALL OF THE REPUBLIC treatment here: https://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/fall-of-the-republic/ or here: https://archive.org/details/fall-of-the-republic NEXT WEEK: REVENGE OF THE SITH TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Where were you in 2002? RUSS and FREY join Josh to discuss the middle part of the prequel trilogy, ATTACK OF THE CLONES. We end up talking a surprising amount about the HAL 9000 fan edit of this movie*, and how it reveals the good movie lurking within. But whether we're talking the theatrical cut or the fan edit, it's safe to say we were quite beside ourselves with this movie. NEXT WEEK: Fall of the Republic with Dr. John L. Flynn HAL 9000's fan edits can be found by going to the OriginalTrilogy.com forums and DM'ing HAL: https://originaltrilogy.com/user/Hal-9000/id/446 TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

STAR WARS has always been at the forefront of technological innovation in filmmaking. Whether it's the prequels pioneering use of CGI, STAR WARS: Episode II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES being the very first feature film to be shot on digital video rather than traditional celluloid film, or the recent use of the Volume AR stage technology on Disney+ shows like The Mandalorian. Josh is joined by two very special guests -- AJ WEDDING and LEO JAMARILLIO of ORBITAL VIRTUAL STUDIOS -- to discuss how Star Wars has always pushed technology forward. Btw, the secret project with the live deep fake of a Vulcan that they couldn't talk about at the time of recording? Maybe you've seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0U-O7f53kg ORBITAL VIRUTAL STUDIOS Website: https://www.orbitalvs.com/ TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

The most-anticipated movie of all time came out almost a quarter of a century ago, and we, like the all-powerful Sarlacc, are still digesting. Josh, Chris, and Jonny are joined by the famed fan editor HAL 9000 as we reminisce about Episode I - THE PHANTOM MENACE and discuss how it works as a film and its legacy in the Star Wars universe. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We are joined by the illustrious DAN MADSEN, the founder of the Lucasfilm Fan Club in the 80s which rebranded as the Star Wars Insider. As the professional fan inside the Lucasfilm apparatus, he was in a unique position to witness the creation of the most anticipated films of all time. Josh has a great conversation with Dan as we discuss the delicate balance between business and fandom, why it was a bad idea to have only one pair of socks at the first Star Wars Celebration in 1999, and what the legacy of the prequels is today. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We catch up with MAYA CHUPKOV, host of the PROUD STUTTER podcast, and discuss her thoughts on all three seasons of The Mandalorian -- her first Star Wars after Andor! Bracey and James discuss season 3, the plan for Mando overall, and what we might see in the future of the Mandoverse with Ashoka... Check out Maya's podcast at www.proudstutter.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

In our second special episode for Star Wars Podcast Day 2023 (Podcast Week?), Josh and Bracey welcome returning guest MAYA CHUPKOV of the phenomenal podcast @ProudStutter to discuss her first foray into the Star Wars universe...ANDOR. Is she a fan? Predictably, we continue to gush about Andor but also try to figure out what impressions it makes on someone new to the Star Wars universe. Check out Maya's podcast at proudstutter.com @ProudStutter on Instagram: instragram.com/proudstutter @ProudStutter on Twitter: twitter.com/ProudStutter @ProudStutter on TikTok: tiktok.com/@proudstutter Listen to our first episode with Maya: FLUENT COMMUNICATION: What I Have in Common with Darth Vader and Mace Windu (with Maya Chupkov) TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

In this Special Edition for Star Wars Podcast Day 2023, Josh, Bracey & Jon discuss whether Disney would ever remake the Original Trilogy, and wonder if the original Star Wars is even still required viewing to be a Star Wars fan. Star Wars Podcast Day is February 7th, to mark the anniversary of the very first Star Wars Podcast "Jedi Talk," which premiered on February 7, 1999. We are proud to take part in marking the occasion with the rest of the Star Wars Podcast Community! (And happy birthday Dad!) TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We can't contain all our thoughts on the magnificent first season of ANDOR in just one episode, but you have to start somewhere. Our last episode of 2022! TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

SEASON ONE FINALE: Josh is joined by frequent guest and co-host of THE SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION, Chris, and our old friend Mike, to discuss a shared dream we had from 1999-2002: to make our own entry into the Star Wars universe, a fan film called FATEFUL. We discuss our. memories of the film, why we wanted to make it, and why we were ultimately unsuccessful. (But it's really about the friends you made along the way, amirite?) We also read a scene from the film and Josh promises to upload his lightsaber screen tests to prove that were all Star Wars Kid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Kid). We have at least one more bonus episode coming in 2022 but after that, please follow us on social media (instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1) or sign up for our newsletter at trashcompod.com to learn when we announce our plans for season 2. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Star Wars was made for the big screen, but it owes most of its continued life and legacy to home video. Join us for a delightful discussion with NATHAN P. BUTLER, author of A Saga on Home Video: A Fan's Guide to U.S. Star Wars Home Video Releases to learn about how Star Wars has been kept alive for new generations through the evolution of home video! Visit Nathan's website: starwarsfanworks.com Buy Nathan's book: https://www.amazon.com/Saga-Home-Video-Vol-Releases-ebook/dp/B09MQV913J/ Check out Nathan's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/chronoradio TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

I'm joined by returning guest MICHAEL A. NIXON and the inimitable RILEY J. SILVERMAN for a discussion about the connections between STAR WARS and DOCTOR WHO. We talk about their similarities, differences, and the current state of both venerable sci-fi/fantasy franchises. Listen to THE GAME OF RASSILON, their Doctor Who RPG podcast: http://thegameofrassilon.com/ Michael's socials: https://twitter.com/michaelnixon https://www.instagram.com/michaelnixon/ Riley's socials: https://twitter.com/rileyjsilverman https://www.instagram.com/rileysilverman/ Riley's STAR WARS books: Star Wars: Exploring Tatooine: An Illustrated Guide https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1647226236 Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge: Treasures from Batuu https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Galaxys-Treasures-Artifacts/dp/1647226406 Star Wars: The Life Day Pop-Up Book and Advent Calendar https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1647226236/ TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Desktop editing software, consumer video equipment, and a renewed interest in Star Wars coincided in the late 1990s to spawn an explosion of fan-made Star Wars movies. Josh welcomes Jeff, who went by the handle Azeem when he ran fanfilms.com and TheForce.Net Fan Films from 1999-2005, to discuss the fan film phenomenon. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We're joined by the inimitable BRANDON WAINERDI, best known for his podcast TALKING BAY 94 (www.talkingbay94.com), to talk about the role MARCIA LUCAS played in the creation of the original Star Wars trilogy, her contributions to the New Hollywood of the 1970s, and her conspicuous absence from the popular narrative of both. And we speculate what may be behind her newfound willingness to talk about her work in public. Brandon's podcast is second to none for behind the scenes info on Star Wars featuring original interviews with those involved both behind and in front of the cameras. We had a blast talking about why Marcia Lucas has decided to emerge from the wilderness to tell her side of the story, most recently in her first on-camera interview in the recent Vice documentary ICONS UNEARTHED. Listen to TALKING BAY 94: www.talkingbay94.com Follow TALKING BAY 94 on Twitter: twitter.com/talkingbay94 NEXT WEEK: The history of Star Wars FAN FILMS with special guest AZEEM, who founded and ran TFN Fan Films from 1999-2005. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

What do I, Josh, have in common with Darth Vader and Mace Windu? It ain't my lightsaber skills, I'll tell you that much. Part of the concept of this podcast was to chart a personal journey through Star Wars, the ways my friends and I grew up with it and how it's intersected and shaped our lives. Our mental health episode was probably the most personal we've gotten so far, and probably paved the way for this week's installment. Fair warning: There's less overt Star Wars talk than usual, but we bring it back. Promise. I'm honored to be joined by guest MAYA CHUPKOV, whose podcast PROUD STUTTER literally gave me the confidence to keep doing Trash Compactor. We have a fascinating, vulnerable, and hopefully illuminating conversation about hidden challenges we all face and how we make them a part of ourselves. I hope you enjoy this one. Check out Maya's podcast at proudstutter.com @ProudStutter on Instagram: instragram.com/proudstutter @ProudStutter on Twitter: twitter.com/ProudStutter NEXT WEEK: The legacy of MARCIA LUCAS with special guest BRANDON WAINERDI of the podcast TALKING BAY 94. --------------- TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

Our jaws are off the floor. Our tears are dry We're finally ready to talk about LIGHT & MAGIC, the 6-part documentary series on Disney+ from Lawrence Kasdan that told the story of the George Lucas's INDUSTRIAL LIGHT & MAGIC in unprecedented detail. In this episode Josh, Bracey, and Russ discuss what separates it from previous behind the scenes documentaries. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We talk all things fonts and logos with special guest Justin, the person behind the incredible @StarWarsFonts Twitter account. @StarWarsFonts on Twitter: https://twitter.com/starwarsfonts Justin's definitive opening crawl tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0Nx3SBt44 Justin's Aurabesh fonts: https://twitter.com/AurekFonts/status/1435672346447155201 & https://twitter.com/AurekFonts/status/1435673583057989633 TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

What would ROGUE ONE have been like it was made right before (or right after) the original STAR WARS in 1977, just like the story itself? Who would have played Jyn Erso? Who would have played Cassian Andor? And who would have directed it? In the tradition of our PREQUELS 1986 episode, we have a blast pondering what may have happened in an alternate timeline. Short version: a pretty awesome flick with an amazing cast that's remembered fondly for its incredible dialog. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

What if Star Wars grew up alongside us? You'd get a show exactly like STAR WARS: ANDOR. We talk fascism, punchable faces, and why the devil is in the minutiae. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

We're joined by playwright and all-around creative ANDY BOYD to discuss his play, THE TRADE FEDERATION, OR, LET'S EXPLORE GLOBALIZATION THROUGH THE STAR WARS PREQUELS. A young experimental playwright named Andy Boyd pitches George Lucas his screenplay for a new Star Wars film. The concept: a prequel to the prequels that fleshes out the economic and social implications of the mysterious Trade Federation. Andy's script is a full-on Marxist allegory where The Trade Federation is The International Monetary Fund, the Gungans are the Zapatistas, and the Jedi are an international community reluctant to push for any real structural change – the UN, basically. Lucas thinks the movie sounds really boring and unceremoniously kicks Andy out of his office. Then things really get weird. This episode will be especially up your alley if leftist politics or leftist theater is your thing! Both this play and more of Andy's work can be found at his website: https://www.andyjboyd.com/ TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

As ANDOR debuts we are pleased to present another bonus episode from our cousin podcast, THE SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION, where we did a final wrap-up on the OBI-WAN KENOBI show a month after its final episode aired. NOTE: Please excuse the audio quality of the intro, it's not indicative of the rest of the episode! SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-secret-origins-of-mint-condition/id1577385556 SOMC on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5WwXIYoxRdXGWLKy1uE4m6 SOMC on Instagram: instagram.com/secretoriginsmc ===== TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

If you have any question about Star Wars about its in-universe lore or its real world production, every fan knows there's only one place to go: Wookieepedia. On this episode, I chat with Jordan, the person behind the official Wookieepedia social media account @WookOfficial, about what drives fans to obsessively catalog this fictional universe. Wookieepedia: https://starwars.fandom.com/ @WookOfficial on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wookofficial @Wookieepedia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wookieepedia/ What is Corrobor: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Corrobor The most comfortable chair ever designed: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Most_comfortable_chair_ever_designed Argo-6: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Argo-6 TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

in 1988, Star Wars was dead. It wasn't until a comics writer named Tom Vietch wrote a letter to Lucasfilm to propose a new Star Wars comic project on a whim, and to his surprise, both the company and George Lucas himself were game. For Vietch, there was only one artist who could do the story justice: Cam Kennedy. Despite being delayed years and moving from Marvel to Dark Horse Comics, the resulting DARK EMPIRE became one of the cornerstones of the old Star Wars Expanded Universe and permanently shaped how a certain generation of fans came to think of our beloved characters. Talking DARK EMPIRE is comics writer/artist RUSS along with JAMES, host of THE SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION podcast. TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com

In recent years, Star Wars has had some striking depictions of heroes struggling with internal demons. Some might even say depression. In this conversation, we discuss how Obi-Wan, Luke, and Anakin/Vader do battle with enemies within. And if you ever find yourself struggling to cope, here are some free resources you can go to for help: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline The 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline is a United States-based suicide prevention network of over 160 crisis centers that provides 24/7 service via a toll-free hotline with the number 9-8-8. It is available to anyone in suicidal crisis or emotional distress. National Alliance on Mental Illness https://nami.org/ NAMI Family Support Groups are structured, peer-led support groups for those supporting the recovery of a family member with mental illness. NAMI Connection is a structured, peer-led support group for any adult who has experienced symptoms of a serious mental illness. SAMHSA - Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration https://www.samhsa.gov/ SAMHSA's National Helpline, 1-800-662-HELP (4357) (also known as the Treatment Referral Routing Service), or TTY: 1-800-487-4889 is a confidential, free, 24-hour-a-day, 365-day-a-year, information service, in English and Spanish, for individuals and family members facing mental and/or substance use disorders. This service provides referrals to local treatment facilities, support groups, and community-based organizations. RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com

What makes Star Wars Star Wars? What makes good Star Wars and what makes bad Star Wars? We attempted to answer these deceptively simple questions on an episode of our cousin podcast, THE SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION. Enjoy this bonus presentation until we return next week with a brand new episode of our own. SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-secret-origins-of-mint-condition/id1577385556 SOMC on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5WwXIYoxRdXGWLKy1uE4m6 SOMC on Instagram: instagram.com/secretoriginsmc RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com

BONUS CROSSOVER with THE SECRET ORIGINS OF MINT CONDITION: Was Darth Vader redeemed at the end of Return of the Jedi? Follow Secret Origins: instagram.com/secretoriginsmc RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com

"If you've only seen them this way, then you've never seen them at all!" In 1997 George Lucas released a special edition of the original Star Wars trilogy with new digital effects and changes both subtle and drastic. Since then, the original unaltered versions of the films have not been made officially available. But where there's a will, there's a way, and fan efforts to restore and preserve the original films have filled the void. One of the most impressive of these fan restoration projects is 4K77 – a 4K scan of a 70mm Technicolor print – undertaken by a group which goes by the name TEAM NEGATIVE 1. I am absolutely chuffed to chat with the co-founder of Team Negative 1, Rob, about their efforts to preserve Star Wars. PROJECT 4K77: https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k77/ PROJECT 4K80: https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k80/ PROJECT 4K83: https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k83/ https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/ https://www.the007dossier.com/ RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com

George Lucas was awarded the James Smithson Medal at George Washington University in October, 1997...and I was there because my mom agreed to take her freshly Bar Mitzvahed son over 200 miles to see a man get an award on a school day. I asked my mom to come on to share our memories of the event, why she decided to take me in the first place, and what George Lucas said that she never let me forget. Guaranteed to be the only Star Wars podcast where the host's mom is the guest! NEXT WEEK: Restoring Star Wars on film with the lead member of Team Negative 1 RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com

What if George Lucas continued making a new Star Wars movie every 3 years after 1983's RETURN OF THE JEDI and EPISODE I came out in 1986, EPISODE II came out in 1989, and EPISODE III came out in 1992? Who would have been cast? Who would have directed? What would the special effects breakthroughs have been and how might they have changed the stories of the films? JOSH is joined by JON, RUSS, and FREY in one of the most fun what-if convos we've ever had. Just wait til you hear who we cast as Boss Nass. (This one particularly benefits from the visuals afforded our YouTube version of this episode, which can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/A3xLMTyICc0. And please subscribe to our YouTube channel while you're there!) NEXT WEEK: Josh recalls the time he saw George Lucas get a medal, with special guest his own mom. No, this is not a joke. RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

Filone: No, we're not talking Dave of Disney+ renown. It's a handy Italian term referring to a cascading film categorization system that values trends, traditions, and filmmaker intentions above rigid codification. Think of it as genre and subgenre's more fluid, contextual, and generally cooler cousin. Just the concept we need to fully wrap our heads around the movie we're discussing today. Author and "remakesploitation" expert ED GLASER, one of TC's most special guest specialists, is on hand to guide JOSH and FREY through the wonderfully topsy-turvy world of the 1982 Star Wars rip-off The Man Who Saves the World—aka TURKISH STAR WARS. And, friends, it is indeed an enchanting world, full of psychedelic yetis, exploding boulder kicks, extremely stolen (but amusingly employed) footage, and one very stylish jacket. Join us as we groove to a film editing style that feels like it might be a secret cortical gateway to another dimension. in the process, we learn just how this mesmerizing creation came to be. Ed takes us deep with illuminating context and fascinating tidbits, all while providing a rare peek into the unique charms and hidden value of not only this film but others in the same filone—unauthorized remakes and rip-offs from every corner of Earth. Looking for an even bigger remakesploitation fix? Check out Ed Glaser's amazing book, HOW THE WORLD REMADE HOLLYWOOD. You won't regret it. NOTE: We'd like to take moment to honor Cüneyt Arkın, star of Turkish Star Wars and all-around beloved actor. Cüneyt died on June 28, 2022, at age 84. Rest in peace, you lovely rock-punching man. NEXT WEEK: Our Prequels 1986 Thought Experiment—What If The Prequels Were Made in the 1980s? RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

Digital technology allowed George Lucas to realize his true vision for Star Wars...but it did the same for everyone else. The proliferation of affordable desktop video editing software in the late 1990s and early 2000s led to a new form of fan participation: the Fan Edit. And for the last 20 years, fans have made innumerable bespoke versions of the Star Wars films. THE PHANTOM MENACE without Jar Jar? REVENGE OF THE SITH where Padmé survives at the end? A NEW HOPE cut up to play like a black and white Republic serial? There's a fan edit for every taste (and to address every nitpick). JOSH had the extreme pleasure to chat with one of the best fan editors around, HAL 9000, to discuss what motivates fan editors, how the community rallied around his fan edit of THE RISE OF SKYWALKER, as well as the legal and ethical questions involved with editing someone else's work (and intellectual property). And we ask the all-important question...what does George Lucas think of fan edits? HAL 9000 can be found posting on the forums at originaltrilogy.com where a polite DM may reward you with a link to his superb prequel and sequel edits, or simply following the download instructions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/7g7r9a/hal9000_star_wars_prequel_trilogy_fan_edits_now/ NEXT WEEK: All about The Man Who Saved the World, aka TURKISH STAR WARS, with filmmaker, writer, and film historian ED GLASER! RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod & twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

Twenty-six years before it existed, Trash Compactor got its greatest "get." And, friends, blow it we did not. We're confident you'll agree once you finally hear, straight from the source, the answer to the burning question that's been on everyone's lips—is Mark Hamill good at the 1996 PC game Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom? But let's back up for a minute. In the mid-'90s, a 12-year-old JOSH and his similarly prepubescent pal SAM snagged a shockingly lengthy phone interview with Mr. Mark Hamill. (The rest of us at TC assume this may have been the result of a questionable deal Josh or Sam brokered with then-up-and-coming horror trickster Wishmaster. They both remain tight-lipped about it). But what came of this? We'll tell you: a cassette recording of a no-holds-barred encounter between two sixth-graders and a movie legend. And by "no holds barred," we mean a gracious Hamill gives thoughtful answers to literally every question, shakes off a few unintentional low blows only a kid could inflict, makes a timely Sinead O'Connor reference, politely ignores a lot of excited whispering between the interviewers, and clearly considers it his duty to talk to a pair of preteens for a solid 20 minutes. Breaking news: Mark Hamill is a very nice man. Join us as Josh and Sam react to this unearthed interview for the first time ever. With a little help from their friends/emotional support animals TIM and FREY, they bravely take on the grueling but highly entertaining task of listening to their 12-year-old selves shoot the shit with Luke Skywalker IRL. (Psst—just kidding about the Wishmaster thing. Didn't mean to scare you. We won't spoil the real story here in the notes, but it involves Z-100, Virgin Megastore, and collect calls. The 90s, baby! Check out some photos from the event that set it all in motion). NEXT WEEK: Revisionist History with the Special Editions! RATE US podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US instragram.com/trashcompod twitter.com/trashcompod1 EMAIL US trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

JOSH, JON, MURRAY and MICKEY use the occasion of the OBI-WAN KENOBI finale to discuss film editing, the impact of new technology on labor, and the most emotional moment in all of Star Wars. RATE US: podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US: instragram.com/trashcompod EMAIL US: trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT: trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

GARBAGE SCOW EDITION! JOSH is joined by JOHN and JOE (on loan from The Secret Origins of Mint Condition podcast) to discuss two of our foundational fandoms, Stars TREK and WARS, and the different things we get from each. Tune in to discover who would win in a fight: a Star Destroyer or the Enterprise? (Spoiler alert: we don't care!) RATE US: podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US: instragram.com/trashcompod EMAIL US: trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT: trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

The penultimate episode of OBI-WAN KENOBI! RATE US: podchaser.com/trashcompod FOLLOW US: instragram.com/trashcompod EMAIL US: trashcompod@gmail.com TRANSCRIPTS AT: trashcompod.com Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod

This is where the magic happens. JOSH, BRACEY, and JEFF fondly recall what it was like to first lay eyes on the galaxy of diverse artists and creative techniques hidden behind the world onscreen. From the found sounds of designer Ben Burtt to the mesmerizing sight of a becapped British puppeteer giving Jabba's tail a good ol' thrash backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards, few types of media can be as informative and transformative as a good documentary. So! Let's dive deep into the "gateway drug for getting into movie & TV production" better known as behind-the-scenes material. (Also discussed—what was more captivating back in the day? A BTS peek in a magazine or in movie form? Feel free to weigh in on our socials below). NEXT WEEK: Star Wars vs. Star Trek! RATE US: trashcompod.com FOLLOW US: instragram.com/trashcompod Support TRASH COMPACTOR: A (Mostly) Star Wars Podcast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/trashcompod