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In this episode of Welcome to Cloudlandia, I share my experiences living in hurricane-prone areas, focusing on the looming threat of Hurricane Milton in Florida. We delve into how such natural disasters test our resilience, drawing parallels with historical floods in Ohio. These experiences serve as a backdrop for discussing the broader theme of adaptation and change. We explore the Strategic Coach framework's Free Zone concept, which redefines retirement as a time for continuous growth, fueled by innovation and technology. I express skepticism about Artificial General Intelligence, instead advocating for real-world applications of AI that enhance learning and productivity. The episode also dives into marketing strategies in the digital age, highlighting the Profit Activator Scorecard and AI tools like Perplexity and Google's Notebook. These tools help us identify gaps and enrich our marketing approaches, as illustrated through collaborations with Joe Polish and Dr. Cherie Ong. Our discussion extends to AI's role in creative and analytical tasks, showcasing how tools like Perplexity can generate insights and drive innovative conversations. We reflect on how these technologies can transform marketing strategies and enhance our understanding of complex topics. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS We discuss the impact of hurricanes and tornadoes, focusing on Hurricane Milton's impending threat to Florida, and share personal experiences living in hurricane-prone areas. We reflect on the resilience required to recover from natural disasters, drawing parallels to historical floods in Ohio and emphasizing how modern media amplifies the perception of storm severity. Devlin describes the Strategic Coach framework's Free Zone concept, highlighting its role in extending entrepreneurial lifetimes and promoting continuous personal and team development. We express skepticism about Artificial General Intelligence, advocating instead for the use of AI in specific, real-world applications to drive innovation and growth. Stuart explores the Profit Activator Scorecard, detailing how to leverage its results to enhance marketing strategies and fill gaps in reaching target audiences. We examine the application of AI tools like Perplexity and Google's Notebook in generating fresh perspectives and enriching marketing conversations. Devlin introduces a new AI tool, "How You're Always Luckier," and discusses its use in generating insights into entrepreneurial luck and societal trends. We compare the capabilities of AI tools like Perplexity and Google Notebook, highlighting their potential uses in strategic planning and productivity enhancement. Stuart shares insights into using AI-generated conversations to gain new perspectives on marketing strategies, illustrating with examples from collaborations with Joe Polish and Dr. Cherie Ong. We discuss personal plans and upcoming travel, setting homework assignments to further explore AI tools and reconnect in future episodes. Links: WelcomeToCloudlandia.com StrategicCoach.com DeanJackson.com ListingAgentLifestyle.com TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dean: Well, well, well, didn't even get to the course. Dan: Yeah, Mr Jackson. How are you, sir? So you were lucky with that hurricane, but you may get the next one. Dean: Holy cow, dan, this is exactly what I talk about with the week before we get the big red arrow, you know, the buzzsaw building in the Gulf and this one, if you take the track, of course, the cone, the probable cone right now and for anybody listening, we're talking about what will become Hurricane Milton, right on the heels of Hurricane Helene, is projected to go right over Tampa, to go right over Tampa, and if you take the red line in the center of the cone, the projected path is literally about a mile from my house, right through the Four Seasons, valhalla. Yeah, so, I don't know. I may hightail it to Chicago or something. Dan: You may have to move from one side of your garden to the other. Dean: That's right. No, this is. Yeah, this will be. This could be like direct path type of stuff. And, of course, the poor. You know people in Tampa and St Petersburg and Sarasota. Dan: They got, they always get it worse, absolutely. Dean: But this last one was, you know, crazy amounts of flooding, and that was not even that, was just the outskirts of a lane. This one is projected to make landfall right in Tampa. Dan: So I don't know. Dean: I don't know, but it's good, you know, to know the. It's good to know what's there. Dan: Yeah, and have forewarning. Dean: Yeah, exactly, you're on high ground in Florida. Dan: Right, You're on high ground in Florida. You're at least 10 feet above sea level, aren't you? Dean: I looked the other time, one of the times we were talking I looked and I'm actually at 150 feet above sea level, so like oh, you're like on Mount Everest in Florida, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. Still I may, it's part of life though. You know, I mean, I tell people. Dan: It's part of life. I remember growing up in Ohio. I was in the north of Ohio, but Ohio River comes under the entire state from east to west and they had tremendous floods and there were people in my first 18 years living at home with my parents. I bet they got flooded out five, six times. You know where their houses would be gone and everything else. Yeah, you know, flood passes by, they rebuild and they go on with life and you know I mean the two things that the US Generally the US has great climate, has great weather. Dean: Yeah. Dan: But it's got a couple of things though Storms from the Gulf of Mexico or from the ocean, you know, from the way of Bahamas. You know, like out in the it comes from the east to the west, but usually it comes from south to northeast. I guess this would be south to east-north-east. It kind of rises a bit after it goes through Tampa right. Dean: Yeah, that's right. Dan: And the other thing is the tornadoes, which are largely unique to the United States. Largely unique to the United States, and it's because of the warm Gulf Gulf of Mexico, cold north, coming from Canada, and then they collide and they start creating a circle. And then they hit the mountains on the west and then they start coming east and Ohio doesn't get them that much. We never get the effects of the hurricanes. I mean by then it's petered out by the time it gets up to Ohio but the tornadoes are different because it's a flat, generally a flat geography in the north. It's where two roads meet. That's about six miles from where I grew up and they had like a church, a general store and a trailer park and three times when I was growing up the tornado hit the trailer park, didn't hit the church, didn't hit the general store. Oh, man Didn't hit, the church didn't hit the general story, oh man, and I said you know it's like a red flag for a bull. You know I mean you're just asking for trouble if you live in a trailer park, but I'm sure that you know people with manufactured homes really got a hard hit in North Carolina. Hard hit in North. Dean: Carolina, I can't even imagine, like Norman I mean yeah. Norman in South Carolina. Tech. That is the power company they're said we're estimating that power will be restored in four to five weeks. Yeah, I mean wild huh. Dan: Yeah. Dean: I mean so amazing, you know that's. I just can't even imagine like your whole, you know your whole uh town being cut off, like there's some of those things in the mountain roads in north carolina. You know in the mountains there that the only way to get to them is through this one road going up around the mountain, and if that washes out which it has I just wonder like how long the how long it's gonna take to rebuild everything it's gonna take a long time. Dan: Yeah, some of it, not at all, probably. I mean, there's probably some small hamlets that they just leave, you know they'll just leave you know anyway, but anyway it's really interesting the I mean every once in a while you get a really severe storm, which this one was. But you know, it's how people don't really understand population, that I mean. There were worse storms as far as people dying in the early part of the 20th century. Far more people got killed. I think there was a famous one in Texas, which. I think it was a couple of thousand people died. You know this one. But people don't realize. When there's a lot more people and a lot more houses, the storm seems more severe, because there's more damage, there's, you know, more wreckage, and plus there's television and there's well, that's what they're saying. Dean: Back in a hundred years ago, you had to depend on somebody's big toe swelling to get there's a storm coming yeah, there was a tornado. Dan: I think there was a tornado, I think it was in the 20s, 1920s and it went over three states. I think it's sort of like Nebraska, that area, you know, the real. Midwest, but it was clocked at close to 80 miles an hour and it stayed on the ground for three states. It didn't jump up, it just stayed on the and it really. I mean it just destroyed towns in its path and the way they know how fast it was going was the report in from the telegraph offices as it was going north. Yeah, funny, as long as you weren't there. Dean: Yeah, holy cow Anyway. Dan: I was just working on a new thinking tool. Dean: I'd like to hear all about that, yeah and actually two of them. Dan: I finished one and I'm starting another one today, and the first tool is called Strengthening your Strengths, and I happen to think that this is the number one entrepreneurial skill. Dean: Tell me all about it. Strengthening your strength sounds like something I would be completely interested in doing. Dan: Yeah, the other one's called how you're always luckier. Yeah, okay, so you got two tools. You got two tools in mind. Dean: Okay, we're going to talk about strengthening your strength. Yeah, the two tools in mind, I've got them. Dan: Talk about strengthening your strength, yeah, and then you categorize them what's your best strength right now? In other words, if you took a look at where you are right now, what's your best strength? And so mine, the number one, is just my teamwork with bats. You know, which goes back 40 years. That's my number one strength, okay. Number two is the team that we have our unique ability team, and number three is the entrepreneurs that I get to work with. Yeah, okay, and so, as you can see the way I'm laying it out, it's me and something outside of me. My biggest strength is that I'm 50% of the deal but there's another 50% of Babs in the team. And I have others, I have others, but those would be the top three. And then over on the right-hand side, is 12 strengthening. In other words, which are the ones that you would strengthen over the next 12 months? It's very interesting. It's a very interesting. The insights that come out. You know, because it's your strengths, are far more than you. Your strength is your connection to other, in collaboration with other people. Dean: Yeah, got it, I do. Dan: And then you know there's a lot of thinking, there's insights. You brainstorm in both of them and then you pick the top. You pick the top three. Dean: So how would you think about the? How would you think about your 12 month improvement in your strength of collaboration with? Dan: BabAPS yeah. So, the big thing right now is our clinics. You know, I mean it's a great teamwork and we want it to last a lot longer into the future. So the work that we do with David Hasse and Nashville will be going down in a couple of weeks. Dean: Your joint longevity project right? Yeah, Well, he's got. Dan: You know, I mean, he's got the full medical every 90 days. And then what needs to be adjusted. You know what's really working, what's not really working. So we get a full blood panel, top to bottom, for every 90 days. And then he creates a whole supplement things we take four times a day. And there's all sorts of adjustments every 90 days. And then the second one is the clinic in Buenos Aires that we will be going down again in November. And that's the stem cells. So yeah, so I mean we're good with each other on all levels, but it's keeping both of us healthy and fit. Dean: Yeah, keeping the racehorse healthy right. Dan: Keeping the races coming yeah exactly Right, right, right yeah. And then the team, the big thing is going to. We're going to make the four by four tool. So we just created the new book which you got. You came to your free zone, so casting that hiring, and we're going to make it every quarter. Every team member upgrades their own 4x4 and talks with their team about it, and the team leaders talk to Babs about it what they're doing. And just do this and get better at it, quarter by quarter, and I think that's going to really strengthen, really strengthen. You know, I mean our main capability and the third one with the entrepreneurs. The big thing my goal 20 years in the future is that the entire strategic coach program, all three levels, is in fact the free zone, and what we're doing now is that we're showing that every tool say, for example, the very first tool when people start coach is the lifetime extender, and that gives you a free zone, because the moment that you extend your life and have 20, 30, 50 extra years you weren't planning on. Yes, yeah, but the way you're looking at it is a free zone. Nobody else is looking at it this way and I already have proof after 30 years. So the lifetime extender has been there for 30 years, so the lifetime extender has been there for 30 years and I have proof now that I would say, on average, entrepreneurs are extending their working lifetime by probably 15 years as a result of that thinking exercise. Yeah, you know where they might be checking out at 60 or 65, know where they might be checking out at 60 or 65. Dean: Uh, they're pushing through to 80. So, yeah, it's very, it's really interesting to see just you know, being surrounded by your people in in strategic coach specifically, that are nobody's thinking about retirement, nobody's thinking about retirement, nobody's thinking about winding down or anything. You know, I think that's all part of you being the lead. You know the lead example the lead dog, the lead dog, exactly Moving into your ninth decade here with an aspiration to outperform your 70s, which was your greatest decade right. Dan: So that's on every level. Yeah, I would say, if you took any entrepreneurial gathering in the world, you know other programs or other associations and had the sort of the demographic mix that's the same as strategic coach, in other words, from, generally speaking, from your 30s to your 60s, generally, I mean that's where the majority of our clients would be. Strategic coach would be the only one where the word retirement is not used. Nobody ever talks about retirement Right exactly, and that's a free zone? Dean: Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's so great to watch too, to see just your momentum. I always tell you too, but I always tell people you're like the ghost of Christmas. Future 22 years ahead of me the ghost of Christmas future 22 years ahead of me, you know it's like you know, because I just love. It's so inspiring to me to see that you know, because a lot of times you start to think, okay, I'm 58 now and you know 60 is approaching, but then that's still. You know even the conversations that we've had about the. You know 60s approaching, but then that's still. You know even the conversations that we've had about the. You know 20 years now, if you take a 25 year framework and start another at 60, kind of thing, that's yeah, it's wide open fields, you know, and where we're where we are now. Who even knows? I had my mind blown the other day. I don't know whether you've seen or heard any examples of the Google Notebook. Dan: Yeah, a couple of our team members are working with it. I mean, they introduced it to me, I didn't introduce it to them. Yeah, I think it's. You know, I haven't tried it yet, but I think within the next quarter I will. I'll try it and it seems to me that it's a lot better format than having a chat bot that you ask questions you ask questions for sure. Dean: Yeah, I mean I heard for sure. Dan: Yeah, I mean, I heard, you know, I heard an example where they were taking apart, you know, a topic and they were just talking to each other and I found it more informative and more, what I would say stimulating to listen to the back and forth conversation than if I was asking a question or it was asking me a question. I just think it's a better format for bringing out the essence of three topic. Dean: And Dan. The realness of the voices and the inflection and the talking a little bit over each other, the interaction and the laughing and the jokes, like it blew my mind Like nothing I've ever seen Zero, I mean, it was just there. Every time I forward it to somebody, they're literally like you can't believe that this is AI, that this is not two humans talking right now and I just think I also read that, on the scale of things, we are at level two right now, on our way to level five, which is the AGI, you know, pinnacle or whatever, the super intelligence. Dan: So if you imagine that, you know how can I bring that up, Because I'm a firm, complete, total non-believer that there's such a thing as AGI. Okay, and the reason is because all intelligence is specific, it's all specific and there is. I mean, we've already created the agi. It's called god, you know, and it's been around for a long time yeah, no, but the whole point is not. I mean it would be meaningless because nobody would use AGI. Dean: What does AGI stand for? Dan: Well, it's Artificial General Intelligence. General Intelligence yeah right, yeah, but there is no general intelligence, there's just specific intelligence. It's just your interaction with something which stimulates your intelligence. Dean: You know, that's it, I mean. Dan: I have squirrels in the yard. You know, in Toronto I'm in Chicago today, but in Toronto we've got squirrels, we've got lots of oak trees and I just watch them. And you know, when it comes to acorns, my intelligence doesn't compare to what a squirrel can do with acorns. You know. They can go up the tree, they can shake a branch. Ten acorns come down. They come down, they gather them up. They got ten different. I have no comprehension how they do what they do. That's specific intelligence. Dean: Squirrel has specific intelligence. Dan: The oak trees have intelligence, no-transcript thing by talking yes, yeah anyway, but I love you know, and I think the terms of you know of applying iq to artificial intelligence is kind of meaningless Right. Because it's somehow that our intelligence and computer intelligence is the same thing going on, and I just don't think it is. Yeah, I think it's completely different. I think it's really fast computing. Dean: Yes, yeah. Dan: So that's my take on it. Dean: Yeah, so that's my take on it, yeah, but if that's, I mean if you, there's something happening and it is evolving, and we're two, you know, a month shy, six weeks shy, of it being two years old since chat GPT first came on the scene in November of 22. And so you'd think, if, just for context, if whatever level of amazement we're at right now is a two on a scale of five, whether we're calling five AGI or whatever, it is just the advance, the directional advance, is pretty, as they say, indistinguishable from magic you know. Dan: Yeah, question is what are you doing? What are you using it for? That's my question. Dean: I don't know what I'm using it for, like I'm really not. You know, that's the. I just have conversations sometimes with my juniper voice and I just recently switched to a British lady. You can switch the voices that you have the conversations with and I'm just kind of sitting with in my mind here. I think we're all woefully under utilizing it. You know like I think we're just to know, yeah. Dan: Yeah Well, I don't think we're underusing that, we just haven't found the use for it yeah, that's true. Well, that's true, that's true it's like there's some ideal use of it, but there isn't any ideal use search, too. Dean: I just look at it as like what would I, how would I treat it or what would I do if I personified it? You know, like I've been imagining Juniper being a real person and you know sitting beside me. Dan: Let's take the eight profit activators. Activators yeah. So, activators you've done complete walkthroughs of each of the activators. Dean: Yes, I have. Dan: Okay, take activator number one. What's activator number one? Dean: Select single target market Okay. Dan: Run it through Google Notebook and see what conversation comes out of it. Dean: Yeah. Dan: Okay, and then what do you learn? Dean Jackson, creator of the first, you know, the first activator. What are you learning there? My feeling is the first time you do it, you'll see all. I guess. Dean: If I imagine that the capability of me, you know, documenting, like you know you've heard the things of, you know like is everything you know written down somewhere. That's really what it comes down to right is if I were to convey, If I were to convey everything that I know about the, about the profit activators, into this language model, what I would love for it to be able to you know, take, do what I do in a way that it's doing the question asking. You know, like I think most of the things that I've seen so far are training up a language model, like loading up a language model but then saying isn't this great, Go ahead, ask it anything, but you've got to you and I talked about that. You've got to have batteries included. You know, you've got to be the one that now you're limited by your, your ability to ask the right questions, to draw it out, and I think it would be infinitely more valuable if we could train it to ask you questions, like I would ask you questions to see where the opportunity is within the profit activator. So I have a thing that I do called a 50-minute marketing sprint, and I basically go through the eight profit activators before, during, after we overlay it on your business and I teach people how to kind of think, how to divide their business into those categories, how to recognize what the driving you know metrics are for each of those and see where the opportunity is. And then, once you know, even with the we have the profit activator score card, using your scorecard model of the you know each of the eight that I think being able to interpret what somebody needs from that like if somebody's a four on profit activator number two, which is compel prospects to call you but they want to be a 12, that would be intelligent enough to say hey, Dan, it looks like you are. Say hey, Dan, it looks like you are. I mean, what we always say to people with the scorecards is you know, I'm looking for people who are clear on Profit Activator 1. They know who they want to attract and they're high on Profit Activator 5, which is deliver a dream come true experience for your prospects. But then they dip down in Profit Activator 2 and Profit Activator 4, which are, you know, compel your prospects to call you and make compelling offers. So I can help people bridge that gap If you know who you want and you can get them great results. Let's do this, let's take some, let's see how we can compel people to call you? Dan: Yeah, I think you're a week away. What I mean? A week away, actually two weeks. We're traveling next Sunday, but two weeks away, I think you're two weeks away from us having a conversation about your first experience of taking you know, creating a transcript for yourself and you can just walk through Profit Activator number one and then it's transcribed and then feed it into the notebook and it'll take it apart and create a conversation between two people. And then you get the recording back and you listen to it and it will take it apart and create a conversation between two people. And then you get the recording back and you listen to it. I bet you'll be very what I would say stimulated by the conversation that comes out and you'll learn three or four new things about how to explain profit activator number one. Dean: It's crazy. Dan: I mean, we did, I'm just telling you how I would approach it, and Hamish McDonald is doing it. I'm going to ask him. The book that we're writing right now, the first chapter, we have the transcript from it the recording. He'll just run it through and send me back for the recording. Okay, and see, I've got a smart human between me and the technology I'm just pointing out my approach to technology period I always have a smart human between you and the technology, but I'll get back to recording and I can listen to it. Okay, and yeah, I love that. I think you'll be, I think you'll be stimulated, I think I'll be stimulated. We can have a nice conversation about what our experiences were. Yeah, We've got an assignment for the next podcast. Dean: Wow, joe Polish and I, we did a Zoom this week with Cherie Dr Cherie Ong, joe's girlfriend, who's a vaginal plastic surgeon, and so we were talking about some marketing things for her and we went, so we did the Zoom. Joe had the honor transcript of the put it into that Google notebook. Transcript of the put it into that google notebook, and to hear this conversation about the conversation that we had was just, it was amazing. I mean, it really was. Dan: Yeah, it was, it's just something yeah, yeah, I mean, I have about you know not what you're talking about, but a different ai experience is every day I have two or three things that just occur to me and where I might have gone to google before I go to perplexity yeah, because google is a search and google is a search engine and perplexity is an answer engine, and there's a big difference between answers and searches. Okay, yeah, and yeah, I did one, because I'm creating this new tool which is called. We haven't talked about that yet, but how you're always luckier is the name of the tool. Okay, so I put in a perplexity 10 significant ways that successful entrepreneurs consider themselves lucky. That's my prompt for and five seconds later I had yeah, and it was useful. It was very useful. Like you know, they're very alert and curious about possible opportunities. You know they're very alert and curious about possible opportunities. That's one way that you know that entrepreneurs prepare themselves for luck. Ok, they have connections with you know creative people. They have connections with creative. So there's 10 of them, you know 10 of them, and I said that's very gratifying. I found that very gratifying, and I also have the suspicion that my prompts are sort of unique, so I'm getting a whole set of unique answers back. Okay, so there was another one. There's this general narrative out there that, because of the political polarization in the United States, that we were on the brink of civil war, and I said perplexity, give me 10 reasons why, in the midst of this political polarization, in 2024, there won't be a second civil war. Five seconds later I got the answer and they were all very plausible. There's absolutely almost nothing in common between 2024 and 1860. You see, it's just news media people with probably too much college education creating new theories. And you realize that, when it comes to getting things done outside of government, the United States is basically going on as normal. It's just things are being sold, things are being created, things are being shipped new ideas are being explored and everything like that. So, I've got this relationship with perplexity, that any topic comes along, I says perplexity, tell me 10 things about this, and then I get my 10 things back. So I've got a new book. One of the new quarterly books is coming up. Dean: It's the 10 reasons for anything. I like that. Dan: Yeah, and that is that anything you can mention. There's probably 10 reasons for it Maybe 100 reasons, but there's at least 10 reasons. You know 10 reasons why Dean Jackson and Dan Sullivan like talking to each other. Right, I bet there's 10. Dean: At least yeah. Did you ask the follow-up question? Dan? Did you ask the question of what are 10 reasons that there might be a civil war? Dan: I would, but I'm not looking for that. Dean: Right, right, right. I just wonder if they can build the argument the other way too. Dan: Oh, sure, sure sure, although perplexity is kind of, I haven't noticed any real bias yet. I've been working with it for six months and I haven't noticed any bias. They simply answer your prompt on the basis of what you wanted to explore and it explores it. But I wouldn't be interested in 10 reasons why there might be a civil war. Dean: Right but. Dan: I think perplexity would come back and say I'm sorry, but my information doesn't allow me to actually explain that Right. Yeah, it does not compute. Yeah, and you know, a couple of times it's come back and say there just isn't enough bases to support. You know the answer that you're looking for. Dean: Right, right, right. Do you use chat GPT for anything different than? Dan: what you use. Dean: Never used it oh okay so you use perplexity as the main thing right, that's it yeah. I'm a monogamous guy. Dan: I'm a monogamous guy. You want to? Dean: have that. Dan: Why would I have two? Dean: I mean, it's like having two wives. You want to grant someone a monopoly right, yeah, and then go deep with it. Dan: Then get really good at that. One thing I'll use this. I'll use the Google notebook, but I won't be the one doing it. Somebody else is going to be doing it for me. Dean: Yes, exactly Me too, that's, I've got Glenn doing that and that's really it's pretty amazing. We're right now on the thing of Okay, we have homework, we have homework. I'll get it done you get it done. Okay, and then? Dan: we'll talk about our. We'll talk about our results. Dean: Yes. Dan: We'll have as a matter of fact fact, we'll get them back and you can send me yours and I'll send you. Know, you just send the link and I'll send the link to mine and you can. Yes, I'll listen to yours, you'll listen to mine, and then we'll have a roaring conversation now. Dean: So what was the question? You wanted me to ask it again. So I'm feeding in Profit Activator 1 and then just seeing what the conversation is. Dan: Right yeah. What is the Google notebook conversation related to? Dean: I think what I'll do is I'll do the 50-minute marketing sprint and see what they say. I think that'll be amazing, yes. Dan: Yeah. Dean: That's pretty smart, you know I think it's not named properly. Dan: Google Notebook. I don't think it's named properly. It should be called the eavesdropping. Dean: Yes, exactly. Dan: No, I mean, wouldn't you like over here two people talking about Dean Jackson's? Dean: This is what's amazing is to hear them. Dan: You're eavesdropping on two very positive people talking in an excited way about your thinking. I mean, who wouldn't want to eavesdrop on that? Dean: Yeah, so, joe, I loaded up episode one of the I Love Marketing podcast and it came back. I mean it was so great to tell the. It was telling the story, so we do a deep dive. It's a conversation between two giants in the marketing world. Dean and Joe, two giants in the marketing world Dean and Joe and they're telling the stories about how they got started and how their earliest jobs really led the foundation. I mean to hear these things talking about it like they're just kind of enthusiastically. Dan: You know, can I tell you something? I think this is the end of social media at the intelligent level, the whole point of social media from the standpoint of Mark Zuckerberg, or anybody else that they've got your attention. This takes your attention away from them. This takes your attention away from them. This takes your attention away from them. Yeah, I mean, I've never been on social media, but I have observed that you're giving your attention away to somebody else. Okay, yes, yes, and with that, you're returning your attention to what's interesting to you. Yeah, you've just created something that's unique, okay. So, Dean takes Profit Activator number one, puts it into Google Notebook Okay, and it comes back with a totally uniquely produced conversation between two AI voices, strictly on Dean's thinking. My feeling is you've returned your attention. I think you've returned your attention to yourself. Dean: I think you're right and it's funny because we're going to take that now, take that conversation that they had and put it through another AI that will create supporting video. I've had this idea of doing the I Love Marketing podcast, which was my idea was to go back to the first 100 episodes and do a commentary on them, but I think that it might be fascinating to do you know, I love marketing AI to have the Google notebook do their summary on each of the first 100 episodes. It really is a really good 10 minute. 10 minute deep dive, as they say. Dan: Yeah, well, it's you know, to me it's really but I think what if you choose to apply this in a way that's beneficial to yourself? Dean: Yeah. Dan: I think you want your own thinking coming back at you, being discussed by two other people. Dean: Yeah that's. I love that. I really do. Like you're absolutely right, it's so. Yeah, it's a moving sidewalk for sure. Like it's definitely a catalyst for connective thinking, you know, to then have a conversation, yeah yeah, but anyway, it's really. Dan: I think it's really neat. You know, one thing that really occurs to me is the wow factor that everybody's talking about. Gee, it's just like human with a high IQ. No, it isn't. It's just a further advancement of technology. Dean: That's all it is. We've been living this. Dan: We've been living this. Humans have been living this forever. This is just a new extension of technology. Dean: It isn't magical. Dan: It isn't human, you know, it's just technological. I had a lot of religion when I was a kid and I can tell when other people are starting to get religious with technology. Dean: Uh-huh right. Dan: I said, you know, when people don't have religion as children, they tend to try to create it out of other experience when they get older. Dean: Yeah, that's true. So you have a. You got a big week this week coming. Dan: No, I just have one. I have a free zone on. Tuesday and I'm starting my next. I'm just starting my next round of connector calls. Dean: Okay, yeah, I'll have to look at the calendar when our next connector call is and get on board. Dan: Well, not free zone, but I have a 10 times connector call at 1030 your time tomorrow morning. Oh, okay, yeah. And this is where I'm testing out strengthening your strengths for the first time. Dean: Okay, oh, that's why it's hot off the press. Well, I mean I. There's a greater than zero percent chance that I might fly up to chicago for to get out of here. Dan: So we'll see when's it supposed to hit tampa? Dean: well, tuesday, wednesday, will be the peak fall, so we'll see it it supposed to hit Tampa. When's it supposed to hit Tampa? Well, tuesday, wednesday will be the peak fall, so we'll see it's supposed to. You know, form more, get more structure and stuff today, so they'll see what the expected path is and stuff. It could go further north or south, or it could fizzle out. You never know. Dan: Yeah, yeah. The news media loves this stuff, you know. So drama, you know, and they've got a narrative going now. These are the worst hurricanes in American history. I said no, they're just hitting more populated areas. Dean: Oh man Well now you know the whole conspiracy, now that is, that was enhanced hurricane, that they manipulated the weather, dan, and pushed it yeah, to North Carolina because they want. It just so happens that all these mountain towns. Dan: They want a lot of people not voting Republican. Dean: Well, they want the lithium underneath there. The mountain areas there sit on the highest concentrations of lithium in the world. Dan: We're talking real conspiracy here. Dean: Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly it. We're talking about like weaponized weather, to shut down, to make Asheville the next smart city. Dan: And I'll tell you something that there is actually something unique about North Carolina, that the finest quartz in the world that go into microchips, the finest quartz comes from one town in North Carolina. Dean: Yeah, I mean in the world. Dan: I'm talking. Well, this is not lithium, it's quartz, I mean maybe there's also lithium there, it's the same thing, yeah. But that town's been going for 30, 40 years, you know and everything else else. But it's really interesting that the finest grade quartz just comes from a mountain in one little town in north carolina, I think that's an interesting fact, it's proof of rule number three that's so funny, it's true. Number three is rule number three is there are no rules, no rules, no. Life's not fair. Dean: Life's not fair, right, sorry, right. Everything is made up, nobody's in charge and life isn't fair, that's right. Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, you get those down pat and you know, you know, and life gets real simple. Dean: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I love it simple. Dan: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely I love it. Do you know the american one dollar bill, the left hand side of the american, backside you? Know, it's got the pyramid. Huh got one there I don't have paper bill I don't know. Dean: I don't think I have paper bill. No, I don't have one. Dan: I have lots. I have ATMs in my closet. I have ATMs in shoe boxes. I've got ATMs in the freezer compartment. I always have cash, but that's very interesting. But you see the pyramid there. That's the three rules. Dean: Oh, it's made up. Dan: Everything's made up. Everything's made up. That's one side of the pyramid. The other side to that second side, nobody's in charge. And number three is life's not fair. Dean: And if you get that, you're a happy American. And the I is. We're always watching. Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see if you've been good or bad, that's exactly right. Dean: That's exactly right, yeah. Dan: I love it Well anyway, we both have assignments. Dean: I'm excited about that. Dan: First thing tomorrow morning and it'll be really interesting. But I'll just go to Hamish, because Hamish is playing with it already and it's really great. And yeah, this is a neat site. We can have our listeners out there do the same thing, you know. Dean: I love it. Dan: I'm going to go to Perplexity and say tell me the 10 most important things about Google Notebook. Oh, very good yeah I like that Because I bet perplexity has a better notion of what it does than Google does. Dean: I wonder if perplexity I'm going to ask perplexity give me the top 10 things or top 10 ways I should be using you, the top 10 ways you could be useful to me. Dan: I asked it, the R factor question, you know the perplexity. I said perplexity if we were having this discussion three years from today and you're looking back over the three years, what has to happen for you to feel happy with your progress? Okay, okay. Five seconds later I had it Okay. And then I said what are the 10 biggest obstacles to you being happy with your progress? And then it said at the end if I solve these 10, if I overcome these 10 biggest obstacles, I'll be very happy with my progress. Obstacles I'll be very happy with my progress. That was a good answer. Dean: That was a good answer. Yeah, that's great, I'm going to do that. That's funny. I'm going to see what they say. Well, so next week you're traveling, and then so two weeks. Dan: Yeah, we're up to the cottage for Thanksgiving, which is and so, but we go up on Thursday, we have the big dinner on Saturday night and Babs and I come back to the city on Sunday. Dean: Drive back on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, so Monday. Dan: Monday's the holiday, but right, yep. So two, two, two Sundays. Yeah, all right, you got homework I got homework, got homework, absolutely I'll talk to you soon, okay, bye.

In this episode of Welcome to Cloudlandia, We contrasted northern summers' climate and lifestyle possibilities with those of Florida. The conversation shifted to exploring humanity's relationship with money through storytelling and belief. Practical lessons included effective pricing, leveraging qualified leads, and attracting high-quality clients using books. Finally, the discussion provided entrepreneurial growth strategies like setting a quarterly cadence, applying profit activators, and valuing long-term relationships. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS We discussed the serene and picturesque landscape of Canada's cottage country, including the unique charm and beauty of its lakes and legends, as well as the renowned Group of Seven artists. Reflections on the contrast between the tranquil Canadian summers and the balmy climate of Florida, noting the ideal summer months in Canada. We explored minimalistic lifestyle choices that gained popularity during the COVID-19 pandemic, such as the simplicity of a carnivore diet and practical wardrobe strategies. We delved into the whimsical nature of financial decisions and the power of belief and storytelling in investment decisions, with a focus on how a stock's value is influenced by future narratives. We discussed critical elements of pricing strategies, including promise, price, and proof, and the importance of pre-qualified, motivated leads in business, particularly in real estate. Dean shared insights on leveraging books as tools for attracting high-quality clients, highlighting a successful collaboration that did not rely on upfront financial incentives. We explored the eight profit activators and how smaller, intimate workshops can be as effective as larger gatherings in growing businesses. We emphasized the importance of long-range investment thinking and nurturing long-term relationships with prospects, as well as the value of quarterly goals and structured cadences in extending professional careers. We highlighted innovative health practices that can prolong peak earning years and enhance productivity, such as the benefits of continuous health improvements and monitoring. We discussed the potential for creative and productive growth during challenging economic times, drawing insights from historical examples and a book that explores enduring human behaviors. Links: WelcomeToCloudlandia.com StrategicCoach.com DeanJackson.com ListingAgentLifestyle.com TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dean: mr sullivan mr jackson welcome to cloudlandia. And, uh, keep your feet on the mainland, that's exactly right so you are calling from the northernmost outpost of cloudland and canada at its best beautiful weather it must be perfect right now. Dan: Right, I just got out of the lake. I was in the lake 15 minutes oh my goodness, wow I'll be, very deep, like a week. Dean: Oh yeah, is it. Dan: Uh, that's very yes, that's quite cold. I mean, this is our one, two, three, four, fourth day and so I'm used to it now, but uh bracing yeah, yeah, because the nights have been very cold oh, I think the nights have been. Dean: The nights have been very cold, yeah well we got enough heat or we got enough heat to go around here. Dan: Yeah, yeah, you've had some. You've had some variable weather, should I call it that? Dean: yeah, exactly, I was just telling. I was just telling I need to. Uh, I'm ready to have snowboarding back in my life. That just makes more sense to me. Dan: Yeah, this is perfect. I mean, there's a lot of your. Our listeners may not know this, but there's this great romance to the cottage country in Canada. Dean: Yeah. Dan: First of all, there's a lot of lakes. I mean there's literally in the thousands. I'm not talking about the big lakes, I'm not talking about the great lakes. I'm talking about, like ours, for example, is two miles by two miles. It's almost a circle. It's two miles by two miles, but there's a circle. It's two miles by two miles. But there's a legend that there's a hole in the middle, a very deep hole, and in the logging days they hooked chains to each other and put a weight at the end of one of the chains and then they kept putting the chains down and it went down a thousand feet and it was still not hitting bottom oh my goodness, it's a portal to the center of the earth you know it invites all sorts of adventures, loch Ness. Well, we haven't seen that, we haven't seen that it's fresh. Yeah, well, loch Ness is a freshwater lake, but no, but there's a romance. There's a whole school of art called the Group of Seven and these were seven artists who did these amazing, amazing paintings. Not really natural. They have a real interesting quality to them and they were done from the teens till probably the 40s or 50s probably a 40-year period, seven artists. They're very famous and in Toronto at the Art Gallery, the Ontario Gallery of Art, they have a whole wing that's just the paintings of these men. And then there's a town north of Toronto called Kleinberg and they have a whole museum. There's a whole McMichael gallery. And I never get tired. I've been here for 53 years and I can go in there and just sit for an hour and look at the magnificent art that these people created. Dean: It is beautiful, yeah, yeah you're right, yeah, canada in the summertime. I can't imagine anywhere nicer, you know any of those temperate things. London or England is very nice in the summer. All of Europe, I'm sure. But yeah, it's just, I'm realizing Florida's a little hot yeah, you're late to the realization. Dan: No, I mean I've realized it all along. Dean: It's just that you know. Yeah, I'm starting to re-realize it. Dan: Well, you had some comparison. You had a wonderful week in Toronto in July. Dean: Yeah, three weeks I was there. Dan: Marvelous there. Dean: That's what I mean, you're realizing that Florida's hot. Dan: You know, just between us, Florida's really hot during the summertime, you know, just between us. Florida is really hot during the summertime. Dean: It was just. It was that contrast. I mean spending three weeks in Toronto June and July is it doesn't get much better. It's the perfect time. Dan: So well, there's June and July, and then there's winter. Dean: That's right. Dan: Actually, I think we're in for a long fall this year. Dean: Yes. Dan: And I'm doing this on 80 years of experience that when you have a very green summer, which means there was a lot of rain. We had more rain this year than I can remember since I've been here, and what it does is that the leaves don't turn as quickly, and so we can expect still green trees at Halloween this year. Dean: Oh, wow, Okay, Looking forward to coming back up in a few weeks. I can't believe it's been 90 days already. I'm super excited about having you know a quarter, a coach quarter. Dan: You've had a coach quarter. You've had a coach. You've had a coach quarter. Dean: That's what I mean. I'm very excited about having these coach quarterly Toronto visits in my future. This is yeah, yeah, it's very good. So there I have had. Dan: You've been thinking about things? Tell me you've been thinking about things. Dean: I have been thinking about my thinking and thinking about things all the while. This is, I think I'm coming up another, I think I'm coming up on a month of carnivore. Now, yeah, what it's very interesting to me, the findings. You know it really it suits. It seems like it's a very ADD compliant diet. Dan: Yeah, in that it's really only one decision. Because it's just one decision. Dean: Yeah, is it meat? That's the whole thing. It's like the Is it? Meat or is it fasting? Yeah, it's the dietary equivalent of wearing a black shirt every day. Dan: Well, I wear a navy blue shirt every day. I took that strategy from you. It struck me as a very useful lifetime strategy. Dean: And I got into it during COVID. Yeah. Dan: Because that was my COVID uniform I had. Basically I had jeans and a long sleeve shirt long sleeve t-shirt navy blue by Uniqlo, a Japanese company, and they're the best, they're the best, they're the best. I bet I've worn the one I'm wearing today. I bet I've worn it a hundred times. So it looks pretty much out of the package. Dean: Yeah, it makes a big difference. So there's lots of these arguments for these kind of mono decisions. Dan: So I'm kind of thinking that through, you know, and seeing other places where that kind of thinking applies you know, yeah, what I notice more and more is that my life is really a function of habits, yes, and you got to make sure they're good habits. Dean: Yeah, I'm thinking and seeing that more and more. Like I was looking in some of my past journals over the last week or so, I was looking back, like back to, you know, 2004, and just kind of randomly, you know, selecting the things. And you know, I do see that you're only ever in the moment, right, because every entry that I'm making in the journal is made in real time, so I'm only ever there, you know, and that habit I often I wonder how many miles of ink lines I've written if you were to, if you were how many times I've circled the globe with my journals. It'd be a really interesting calculation, you know. But you realize that everything you've been saying about the bringing there here is really that's absolutely true, like the only thing I'm doing. The common thing of that is I'm sitting in a comfy chair writing in my journal, but you're never, you know, it's all. But it's funny to look back at it as capturing the moment, you know. Dan: Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. I see a lot more articles these days on journaling and just in the context of Cloudlandia and the mainland, it seems to me that it's a way of staying in touch with your preferred mainland by journaling, because every day you're conscious, you're thinking about your thinking and I think, as Jeff Madoff and I have had a number of conversations about this, that as the world becomes more digital and I see no end to the possibilities that you can apply digital technology to something there's a counter movement taking place where people are deliberately reconnecting with the mainland in a conscious way. Dean: Yeah, I'm aware of that. Dan: I mean, carnivore is about as mainland as you can get. Dean: That's the truth, especially when there's something primal about cooking. Dan: The only thing further than that would be if you were eating yourself, which, in a sense, you are. Dean: It's so funny, but there is something magical about that. Can I tell? Dan: you not as full bore as yours, but this is my 33rd day of having steak for breakfast. Dean: Yes, Okay, did you open up the air fryer? Have you had an air fryer? Dan: steak yet. Oh yeah, it's downstairs. We have one at the cottage and we're going to get a new one at the house. Dean: And what's your experience? You brought it with us. Dan: It's not my experience, it's Babs' experience. Dean: I mean your experience of the eating. Yeah, oh no, it's great. Dan: Yeah, oh no, it's great, it's great, it's delicious. Yeah, it's super fast, I mean it's super fast and it's great and, yeah, I'm thinning out a bit, losing my COVID collection. I'm starting to get rid of my COVID collection. Yeah, belly, fat and fat otherwise, and that's great and I do a lot of exercise when I'm at the cottage we have. There's a stairway, a stone stairway that goes down to the dock 40 steps, and so I do it today. I'll do it six times up and down. Dean: Oh my goodness, wow. Dan: And then we have about a I would say, three quarters of a mile loop up the hill, through the woods and back down, and I'll do that once today and I'll do two swims. I'll be in the lake for two swimming sessions and I noticed I really do a lot more exercise here and the whole point is to have it carry over when you get back to the city. Jump start yeah, I've got a great book for you, and the whole point is to have it carry over when you get back to the city Jumpstarting. Dean: I've got a great book for you. Dan: Do you read on Kindle or do you buy actual books? Dean: Yes. Dan: Yeah, that's two questions. Dean: Yes to both. You do both Often. I'll do three Often. I will do the Kindle and the book and the audio. Dan: Yes, well, there's a great book that you'll like, and it's called Same as Ever. Dean: Okay, I like it already, but tell me about it. Dan: And the author's name is Hosel H-O-E-S-E-L First name, I think, is Morgan Hussle. And what he shows? He's got 23 little chapters about things that are always the same and it's thought-provoking and he's an investor. You know he's an investor, but he talks about that. Humans, for the most part humans get smart at everything they do except one. What's that Money? That's probably true. And he says people are more fanciful when it comes to money than almost any other part of their life. Okay. Dean: Well, that's interesting. It's giving me an option to buy his follow-up book which is the Psychology of Money. Dan: I should get that too, too why not? Dean: yeah, all right, he's got some great line. Dan: I mean he quotes other people. He's got the greatest definition of a stock you know, like stock market stock he's got the greatest definition of a stock. I I don't think I think he's quoting somebody, but that a stock is a present number multiplied by a future story. Dean: Ooh, that is true, isn't it? A present number multiplied by a future story that is so good yes. Dan: Isn't that great. Dean: It's so good and true, it's got the added benefit of being true. Yeah, I mean, it's really. If not, what else it's guessing and betting, right? It's like we gauge our guessing and betting on we guess and bet on the strength of our belief in the story. Dan: A present number multiplied by a future story. Dean: Yes, that's wild. It's funny that you say that's a very interesting. I was thinking about a pricing strategy for a client and he was saying I'm sure this has been. There's probably somebody who's said this before, I don't know who, but I was looking at it as that it's a combination of the promise and the price and the proof. And proof is really a story right, a belief that if you have him, you're, if there's something going wrong. Yes, proof is yeah, I mean it's either that, yeah, it's either. You know the promise is the articulated outcome of what you're going to get, that you want that promise, but then the price is a factor of how much that promise is worth and your someone else yeah and the confidence that it's going to happen. You know, it's a very interesting thing I was thinking about it in the context of our real estate that the realtors are will happily pay 40 of a transaction, up to 35 or 40% of a transaction. That's a guaranteed transaction, like a referral. If I say, you know, if you send somebody a referral they'll pay 40% because the promise and the proof is that you already got it. So you're willing to pay 40% for the certainty of it. But when you say to buy a lead, you know to buy leads for $5 or $10, there's not as much. You don't have the proof that those leads are going to turn into into transactions. So there's a risk. There's a risk involved in that. It's really, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. I've been because you know I do a lot of real estate, lead generation and all kinds in all kinds of businesses. Lead generation and I've really been one of the distinctions I've been sharing with people is the, because a lot of times people ask well, are they good leads? You know, and it speaks to the, yeah, you know objective, yeah, you. Dan: And joe you, you and Joe Polish have a great definition of what a good lead is. I don't remember the exact formula, but it's pre-qualified, pre-motivated. Dean: Yes, predisposed you know predisposed. Yeah. Dan: And one of the things that when we were doing the book deal with Ben Hardy and Tucker Max, before we approached Hay House, Tucker asked me a question. He said well, you're not taking any money, you're not taking any advances, you're not taking any royalties for the book, which was true. So that was a real straight deal. You know why? Because it's a mono decision. Dean: Yeah. Dan: I'm sorry. The book is a capability for me and that's worth all the upfront money. Dean: Yes, yeah, you know, and that was the advances. Dan: You know, the advances were really good advances. I mean, they were six-figure advances. Dean: And. Dan: I said, the reason is I don't want to think about that. I just want to think about the capability that I have 24 hours a day, all around the world of someone picking up the book and reading it, and it's a pre-qualified person. It's a pre-qualified person, in other words, the person who's picking up the book and reading it would have the money and the qualifications to be in the strategic coach. The other thing is that it would pre-motivate them. They're predisposed because they picked up the book. They're pre-qualified because it's meaningful to them. And then the next thing is they'll give us a phone call. You know they'll read the book'll give us a phone call. You know they'll give us a phone call. Or just go on. You know, go on to the website and read all about coach and everything like that. And so Tucker said so we sell a thousand books. What would make you happy in terms of actual someone signing up for the program? And I said one. Dean: Right and probably, probably. Dan: I would want a hundred people Just trying to take care. This is why I'm going to come and do the eight profit Activators. Yeah, and the reason is that those books were right at. About the three books that we wrote were right around the 800,000. Wow, wow, and I could easily say we've had 800 clients pick it up, either picked it up and called us, or called us and we sent them the books. Yes, but it's a marvelous system because it's who, not how, in spades is that I have salespeople out there every 24 hours and they're finding, finding new interested leads, they're developing the leads and we don't have to spend any time until they give us a call. Dean: I think that's fantastic and it's doing. You know, part of the thing is I. This is why I always look at books as a profit activator three activity, which is educate and motivate. That people get educated about the concepts of who, not how, or the gap in the game or the idea that 10 times is easier than two times, and they see examples and see that this really fits, and then they're motivated to call and get some help with that. I'm such a fan of books and podcasts as the perfect Profit Activator 3 activity. Dan: Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about our previous podcast where you took it through the what's the value of your leads. I'm actually a really fan of that yeah. Dean: I love metrics. I'm a big metric. Well, metrics to me are when they are objective and measurable. They are a proof. Dan: Well and predictable. They're predictable too. They're a proof. Do a certain amount of activity, you can get a predictable metric. Dean: I've discovered a metric very much like Pareto in lead distribution. It just got, you know, hot off the press with Chris McAllister, who you know as well. Yeah, chris, so we've been doing a collaboration on, I've been helping them with lead generation and I asked him to do a I've been calling it a forensic census of what's happened with the leads right and leads who've been in for more than a hundred days. So we just looked at the. That's roughly three and a half months basically, and you know, of all of the leads that we had generated, 15% of them had sold their house with someone else, and so you look at that we did the math on the thing, that is the opportunity cost. That is the exact thing that worked out, that the amount of that worked out to be over half a million dollars in lost opportunity. Dan: Well, and that's where. Yeah, no, it wasn't lost, it was just a cost. Dean: Yeah, that's exactly right. Dan: The money went into the wrong bank account. The money went into the wrong bank account. That's exactly right. The money went into the wrong bank account. The money went into the wrong bank account. Dean: That's exactly right. So now that's encouraging right, because I've got now three different forensic census analysis from three different parts of the country with three different realtors that all point to exactly the same thing 15 of people who've gone through a hundred days will do something, and so that is. That's encouraging. You know, I think if I, if you look at that and start to say OK, there's a pulse. That it means that the market. Dan: The marketplace has a pulse. Dean: Yeah. The lie rating and that we're generating objectively good leads, meaning people who want to do. What the promise of the of the book is, you know, yeah. So, that's very exciting. Dan: Yeah, you know, it's really interesting changing the subject slightly. So this author that writes the book Same as Ever that I just mentioned, he said that basically, when you look at the last hundred years, the decade of the 1930s was absolutely the most productive decade in US history. Wow, Based on what. And he said just how much got produced during the 1930s. Dean: Are you talking about the New Deal? No, he's not talking about the New Deal at all. Dan: He's actually talking that the reason was it was the worst decade economically in the United States history because of the Great Depression, but he said it was also the most creative and most productive. And he said that creativity and productivity don't happen during good times, they only happen during bad times, the reason being the things that you thought. Let's put it this way you're going into the 1930s it was one of the hottest stock markets in the history of the United States the 1920s per capita, if you do it in relationship to the population and then suddenly it just stopped and everything that people believed was true, everything that they knew was predictably true, didn't happen. And everybody woke up and said, oh my God. Well, everything we've been going on doesn't work. And he said that's the spur to creativity and productivity. It's not profitability, because the profitability happened in the 1940s and 1950s, but the productivity, the creativity, creating new things that were productive, happened during the 1930s. He said there's no decade like it in US history in the last 100 years and I found that very striking. Dean: I can't wait to read it. Dan: I found that. It's a thin book. Dean: Okay, I was going to say I like that's my favorite. That's my favorite and accessible words. Dan: I like that too. It's a win. And it's a good title yeah, he doesn't use more words than he needs. Dean: I like that. Dan: It goes back to your. I'm coming awake to Dean Jackson's 8 Profit Activators. Dean: Oh good, after 12 years, this is good news. Dan: I'm a tourist, I'm a late bloomer. Dean: I'm a late developer. Dan: You know, but it wasn't that it was stored away, but it wasn't brought right in front of me. But I think there's a lot of very interesting insights that you have here. Dean: Yeah, that's true, and I just find more and more it's. You know it's the same, just feel like it's. So when you look at this one thing you know, if I think about my one thing is this you know, working on the all the applications of this one model and seeing deeper and deeper layers of how it actually how it fits, you know, it is like you asked me 12 years ago what would be fascinating and motivating because I had come out of you know, 15 years I think we I think we were both sitting in our kitchen when this happened, yeah, yeah our kitchen. Yeah, and I remember I was. Dan: I remember I was using that I was I. I remember it distinctly because I think it's the last time I used the landline. Isn't that funny? Dean: that's amazing. Dan: Yeah, yeah, because I had to sit up next to the counter because we've only got one landline. Dean: And. Dan: I said I've got this. So I had to sit on a stool next to you know a counter and I remember the conversation. Dean: I do too, and it was because I was coming out of 15 years of applying these eight profit activators to the growth of one specific business and Joe Polish had just taken that framework and started the I love marketing cast and I realized that's my. I was realizing how applicable that kind of operating system that I had developed for, you know, growing our own business was applicable to all kinds of businesses and that was my fascinating thing and doing it in small groups as opposed to 500, 700 people at a time, and to this day, it's still now 12 years later, yeah. Dan: Yeah, can I ask you a question about that? If you did it differently. Could you do it with a group of 100? Dean: Yes, absolutely, and we've done it with you know, I've done it with 40 or 50. Dan: Yeah Well, if you can do it with 40 or 50, you could do it with 100. Dean: Yeah, once you get past like 14 or so, the way the dynamics change. At about 14, more people, you end up having fractured conversations, and so that's why, the way you do the workshops, you have the opportunity to have people have those conversations, but in groups of three or four, yeah, so rather than having breakouts. Dan: Well, and then there's a tool that everybody's doing the same. Yes, yes. Yes. Dean: You're exactly right. Yeah, and that's an. All of them are all the eight profit activators are there, are tools, you know, there are thinking ways for it and yeah, but it's just such a you know I want to ask you another question to what degree if you think about I think you said you've done about 600 from last conversation of your small groups, that'd be 50 groups, basically 50, 50 sessions. Dan: To what degree do they need to know their numbers to go through the process? Dean: well they. The challenge or the thing is that they don't even know that these metrics exist. So I work from the standpoint of they really, if I can give them the experience of it by. They know the top line and they know you know what they're doing. But it doesn't require the granularity to get the impact of it. You know, to understand. That's where they can get their best intuitive sense of what that is and every single person has a realization that. Let's just say, even the just understanding how to divide the revenue into before unit, during unit and after unit is a big revelation for people and then they realize, you know, a lot of times I was just doing a consultation with a home services company and in home services it's pretty standard to spend, you know standard to spend you know 12 to 15% of their revenue on advertising. But they do a lot of things and they don't know often exactly what's working. But when I pointed out to them that if we take you know, 30% of their business is coming from repeat people who've already done business with them, yet they're measuring the 15 percent on that gross revenue, so their actual before unit cost is is way more because they're spending all the money in the before unit and not really spending much if anything on the after unit, even though it's bringing in 30% of the business. You know and it's so funny because I was sharing with them too I was like to take this attitude of so they do HVAC and air conditioning and so I like for them to think of all the households that have one of their air conditioning units in it to be climates under management, you know, is to get that kind of asset that they've got 20 000 climates under management, and to take that and really just kind of look at what they could do even just with the after unit of their business. You know, it's so. It's always eye-opening for people like to see when you start looking at those numbers and say, wow, I had never, I never thought of it like that. Dan: You know one of the things John Bowen and Kerry Oberbrenner and I are doing a collaboration on establishing the real numbers for entrepreneurism. Dean: Right. Dan: In relationship to wealth and in relationship to happiness, relationship to wealth and in relationship to happiness. So John is arguably the top coach in the world for financial advisors at a very affluent level. So all the clientele are very, so that would be for, and they'd be looking for, families. It would be sort of families and they'd be entrepreneurial families, okay, and I think that the sort of the preferred look is where the net worth of the family is in the 20 million and above level. Okay, and these are the advisors. So John's clients are the advisors who do this, okay. And two years ago we did a survey where we compared the entrepreneurial clients or the entrepreneurial clients. What we surveyed was John's clients as entrepreneurs. Dean: Yes. Dan: Okay, they're entrepreneurs, and there were about 1 of them, 1300. And they were compared to 800 strategic coach clients and we saw all sorts of differences. One of them was the who, not how, factor, that generally our clients made more money per person and worked fewer hours than John's 1,300. Yes, okay, and fairly significant. I mean like percent, different percent. And the other thing was that our clients expected to be busy. They expected to be active entrepreneurs for a much longer period than his clients. Dean: Well, that's the greatest gift right there when you look at it. So you, as the lead by example of this the lead dog. Dan: Yeah, you know what they say about dog sleds you know the dogs in a dog sled. Yeah, if you're not the lead dog, the future always looks the same. Yes, exactly so I'm not looking up anybody's rear end. Dean: Yeah, right, exactly. Dan: Anyway, but the big, thing, if you say we don't have real proof and it would take 50 or 60 years to take a long study to see that we're actually extending people's actual lifetime. But I would say right now we could probably establish really good, really good research that were extending their careers by probably an average of 15 years at their peak earning. Dean: Yeah exactly. Yeah, think about that like in the traditional world. So at that you know I'm 58 now and so in the traditional world it'd be like you got seven years left, kind of thing. Right, it's a traditional retirement age, or what. Dan: And then coach, you'd have 22 years. Dean: I got 22 more years, even just to get to 80. Yeah, you know like that's the thing, and I just proved that it's possible. Dan: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Dean: Yes, that's what I'm saying, yes, that's what I mean. And to be you like, look at, you know one of the. You know the elements when we do the lifetime extender, when you ask people so how do you want to be on your 80th birthday? And you're saying you know, well, how do you want to be health physically? And you're saying, well, how do you want to be health physically? Well, I want to be climbing 40 states of stairs six times a day, swimming twice and hiking around my property. I want to be, recording podcasts. I want to be writing books, I want to be holding workshops, I mean developing thinking tools, all those things. I've been thinking a lot about cadences, you know, and you've really kind of tapped into this cadence of of the quarter. Quarterly cadence is because your days are really largely the same with an intention of moving towards quarterly outputs. You, you're creating quarterly books, you're creating new quarterly workshops and tools. And am I missing anything Like do you have annual goals or objectives? Dan: Or is everything in terms of Well, the only, there's only one. The only one thing that we have, that's annual, would be the Free Zone Summit. That's once a year. So, for example, every week I'm working on the summit which is in February next year, and so I'm always listening in the. So I have a series of speaking sets that people can, and I'm looking, yes, to a large group of people, half of whom aren't actually in the free zone. You know half of them next year, half of them won't even be, you know, in strategic coach. They're team members, free zone members, they're clients of the free zone members and everything like that. So it's a challenge to me because you know coach people, know the routine, you know they come in, they understand what a whole day looks like thinking about your thinking. But for some people this is the first time in their life and the trick is, after the first hour they all feel as part of the same group and they're thinking you know. So anyway, it's a. It's an interesting, but that's only my annual thing. Dean: Yeah. Dan: So I've you know I give a lot of thought to it. I work on it right now, six months, before I'm working on it every week. Dean: Yeah. Dan: But that's the only one that is, and I wouldn't want to, no, exactly. Dean: Do you? It's interesting that you say you're working on it every week. Do you have? Do you account for that in your calendar or do you just consciously like? Or do you say? Dan: Some of it is just, some of it's just my time and it's, it's a certainty. Uncertainty worksheet. So I'm always working within the certainty. Uncertainty, this much is certain already. This is uncertain. So then that's the next week. You have to have certain things move from uncertainty to certainty. Yes, we got the pat. We just got the patent on that, by the way, so that's a good tool. That's good. Yeah, yeah so, but I'm constantly my ears are constantly open. In all the workshops, people are dropping topics. You know. I said, yeah, think there's a, we got a role for you and you know, we got a role for you, because I want to get to people ahead of time, because some people don't come to the summit. So if you spot them as a speaker, you want to make sure that something else isn't scheduled during the time when they come. So, yeah, it's going to be in Arizona this time. Dean: That's what I hear. Dan: It's all very exciting. Dean: Anyway it's very exciting. Dan: You mentioned the quarter. I really take quarters seriously. Other people have quarters, but they don't spend much time thinking about the quarter. Dean: I said it's available. Dan: It's sitting around there. You know, quarters are just sitting around. How much productivity, creativity, profitability can you get out of a quarter? Dean: Yeah, I like that. That's my observation. Right Is that you're the tools of applying three days focus days, buffer days, in a quarterly cadence for the rest of your till 156. Dan: 304. I have 304 left. 304 quarters left. Yeah, 304 quarters. You know David Hasse, whose clinic I can't, you know I can't recommend enough to people, but so we started two years ago with him. So it's August of 2022. We started working with him and we've had eight quarters and when we first came to the very first meeting in Nashville Maxwell Clinic, he said so what are we going to do with? your health over the next 312 quarters right, he had me at hello he had me at hello oh yeah and we've done a lot in the last eight quarters we've done yeah, you know there's a lot of work and but yeah, he's got a deep dive program. It's really terrific. I mean it it's testing, testing, constant testing, and he's very alert to new stuff in the marketplace you know new breakthroughs. Dean: What's your noticing now of your new needs in all these stairs that you're doing? Dan: Yeah, the big thing is I have no problem going up. It's tender going down, and the problem is it's a 50-year-old injury and about 49-year-old injury and so the cartilage is completely restored. Okay, and that's a breakthrough. Stem cells can get things working. Stem cells, can you know they can? What stem cells essentially do is wake up the cells that are supposed to be doing the work or repairing them. Dean: Hey, buddy, get back to work. Dan: Yeah, and the, and this is detectable, this is measurable where? Dean: they are. Dan: So I always thought I'm missing a cartilage. And I went down there, so they and when I say down there it's Buenos Aires, in Argentina, and I've done five, four, four sessions, four sessions in five month period. And now my cartilage is the same thickness going from almost no cartilage in my left knee. It's the same width. You know, the thickness of the cartilage is the same as it was before the injury in 1975. So that's great, but it's still painful. So now he says what's happened is that there's been damage to the ligaments on both sides. And so now I go first week of November to Buenos Aires and they do stem cells on my ligaments, ok, ok, and then we'll see. We'll see what happens there. So wow. Yeah, it's a matter of subtraction. You know you subtract the cartilage as the problem and then you submit and we'll see where it is. But I would say that the drop in pain in a day, in other words from morning till night, it's probably down 90%. Wow, that's amazing. But what's missing is the confidence to start running, because I want to run again and so I've been 15 years without running and my brain says don't run. So I have to relearn how to run. And how about Babs? It's completely fixed. That's amazing, isn't it? Yeah? And the cartilage that was cartilage too, yeah, fixed. That's amazing, isn't it? Yeah, the cartilage that was cartilage too. She, yeah, she had influence, she had actually. She had bone inflammation and she had missing cartilage. So the cartilage is back and I think hers would be equal to mine. The pain is down by 90 wild, wild, that's. Dean: It's amazing, isn't? It yeah we're living in. We're living in amazing times. Well, I'm counting on it. Yeah exactly. Dan: You know it's a present number times a future story. Dean: What a great thing. By the way, that book is going to arrive today, according to Amazon. For me, the money book. The other one will be here tomorrow morning. That's just so, like that's the best thing. Dan: Why can't the I mean after you order it? Why aren't they knocking on the door right now? What's wrong with this world? Dean: That's what I'm thinking. Is that why people call senators? Is that what I need to do is alert my senator? Dan: about this. Yeah, I actually had a great conversation with Ted Budbutt. Dean: Oh yeah. Well, that's great, great US senator from North Carolina, yeah and I just saw that Robert Kennedy just endorsed Donald Trump. He dropped out of the race and joined MAGA. Dan: Yeah, I think it's probably. I was figuring it's worth 3%, do you think? Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, I mean, he brings a lot to Trump obviously brings a lot to it, but he brings a whole issue that the Republicans haven't been focused on at all and his whole thing is really about what the food industry is putting into food. Yeah, that that is very dangerous, very negative, very harmful. That's been his big thing, and Trump just came out and said I think we're going to really take a major look at this. Dean: You know, it's very interesting to note that Joe Polish was sort of a catalyst in this regard. Oh yeah, that's pretty amazing. I just sent him a note. Dan: I just sent him an email. I sent him an email. I said RFK Trump always said you were the greatest connector that I've ever met in my life. Dean: Yeah, that's the truth, isn't it? And now you think about the historical impact. You know of this. I think that's you know. It's amazing. He's in his unique ability, for sure. Dan: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, just born unique ability to connect people, positively connect people. Yes yes, yeah, there's all sorts of industries where it's negative, but this is positive, so good. Anyway, back to our metrics, back to our metrics yes. Yeah, well, I think you're working out a whole economic system based on this. I think this has got the making of a complete economic system. Dean: Yes, it really does, the more that I see that each of them have and I'm very aware of naming the metrics right, of naming the metrics right like so out, because each of the before, during and after units all have their own, you know, their own metrics that are universally present in every business but they're differently calculated, you know, and once people have that awareness it kind of builds momentum, like they really see these things. They've never thought about a multiplier index in the during unit, or they've never thought about a return on relationship in the after unit or revenue From where you are right now? Dan: which one is where you are right now? Which one is most important for your own? Dean: you know your own money making for me, I think, one of the most. Dan: I mean you got eight, I know yeah, yeah, the eight are all engaged, but right now August of 2024, which is the one that you're really focused on right now rev pop revenue per unconverted prospect. Dean: Yeah, that's a multiplier If you've already got. You've got a lot of times when we take the VCR formula and kind of overlay on top of it. The excess capacity that people have is often a big asset, you know, and so it's very yeah, it's fun to to see all these at work. You know, as I start to you know, overlay them on so many different types of businesses. Dan: Yeah, no, I'm just really taking I was. Shannon Waller's husband was reading this, same as every book His cottage is. Their cottage is about 10 minutes walk from our cottage and I just picked it up and I've converted almost completely over to Kindle. So you know, so I had it within minutes. Dean: I picked it up. Dan: I read a chapter and I said I'm going to download this. So I downloaded it and I've been reading it for the past four days. But I asked Bruce. We were out to dinner last night and I said Bruce and Bruce is an investor he had a career with Bell Canada. He was 35 years, 35 years with Bell Canada Got a good pension and then he went into investing and I said this is about long range thinking, this is a very long range thinking book and it's almost like these are 23 things that are always going to be the same how you factor that into your investment philosophy, okay, yeah. And then he has a lot of references to Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett because, they're the long range, they're the most famous long range investors and Charlie's dead this year. But Warren Buffett said he said this year. But Warren Buffett said he said you know it's, the biggest problem with investing is the combination of greed and speed. You know, people want a huge payoff and they want it as fast as possible. Yes, and he said you know. And Warren Buffett, he says you know, you can't produce a child in a month by getting nine women pregnant. Dean: It's profound and true. Dan: It's a formula for complication in your future life. Dean: Yeah, exactly. Dan: Yeah, if each child has claims on half of your net worth, you probably have diminished your future. You probably have diminished your future. But anyway, and he says, the proper question is what's the investment I can make that has the highest return for the longest period of time? Dean: Yes, I love that. That's great. Dan: Well, if you take your eight profit activators and see them as separate investments. Dean: Which I do. Dan: And each of them is growing in return. That's really the only stock market you actually need. Dean: Yes, that's what dawned on me with this revenue per unconverted prospect is I try and get people to think about their before unit as making a capital investment. Dan: Well, you are in time attention, probably money, probably money too. Dean: Yeah. But most people think of it as an expense because they're running ads competing for the immediate ROI. And it's such a different game when you realize that the asset that you're creating of a pool of people who know you and like you and are marinating, you know that it makes a big difference Because the gestation period is, if you looked at the people that come into coach for the first time, if you were to look at their ad date in the CRM of when they first showed up on your radar, whether they opted in for something, that it's going to be a much bigger number than seven days. You know that they came in, they got, they talked to somebody and signed up. It's going to be a you know, a much longer period of time and the yield. This is the only way that having that revenue per unconverted prospect really gives you a way of seeing how valuable the people who've been in your pond for three years, five years, seven years I'm sure you have people who have been swimming around Strategic Coach for several years before they become. Dan: One of the big changes that we're making is to switch the attention to those people away from the sales team to the marketing team. That's smart. Because, I have a framework for the salespeople and every time I meet with them, we have 14 full-time salespeople and every time I meet with we have 14, 14 sales full-time salespeople and I say yeses, reward you, noes, teach you and maybes, punish you. So, I said, every week you're looking at your call list, you have to grade them yes, no. Or maybe at your call list, you have to grade them yes, no. Or maybe and I say, go for the yeses first, Get the no's as fast as possible, Okay and make them earn their way back into your prospect list. Dean: In other words just say no. Dan: You know it sounds like you're not going to do it. You know about us. We've had a conversation. We've got great materials we can send you constantly. But you know I'm not going to bother you anymore. And then there's maybes that are just trying to have an affair. Dean: Right, exactly. Dan: No, she isn't with us anymore. But we had a woman who is a salesperson and she had 60 calls over a six-year period with this person. I said I don't know what's on your mind, but he's having an affair. That's funny. It's a nice female voice. He gets to talk to her every month or so. It's an affair. That's exactly right. It's so funny. Anyway, we've shot way past the hour. Dean: Oh my goodness, Dan Well, it was worth it. It was worth it. Dan: I don't know for the listeners, but I found this a fascinating conversation. Dean: Well, I find that too, so that's all that matters. If we had good, come along the ride. Dan: I agree with if we were having a good time. I think they were having a good time I think, I'll talk to you next I'll talk to you next week. Thanks dan, bye-bye. Great, okay, bye.

Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast, we're talking to Larry Stelley from El Paso, Texas, where he's the President of the Youth Biz Academy, a non-profit helping kids develop an entrepreneurial foundation. The program started over a year ago and has grown by creating programs to engage young people and get them involved in business and entrepreneurship. Larry's been looking for different ways to find his market, and we had a great conversation about applying the 8-Profit Activator, using a book to start the conversation, and the approaches we talk about in email mastery to get him in touch with millennial parents who have teenagers and would be keen to join programs on financial literacy, and entrepreneurship. By the end of the call, we hatched some great ideas for programs that can be created to get more leads.   Show Links: Show Notes ProfitActivatorScore.com BreakthroughDNA.com

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Today, I want to share a conversation I had with Kurt Nielsen, a Mortgage Broker from Clackamas, Oregon, who's been in business for several years and works with his wife, a real estate agent. I've known them for many years. I love how enthusiastic Kurt is and how I have no doubt that he's an implementer because I've seen it happen where he's taken our Bank-owned Weekly and Tax Credit Guide programs and just run with them to build a very successful operation. Real Estate is one of my favorite things to talk about because it's the perfect way to illustrate the Listing Agent Lifestyle principles and demonstrate how the 8-Profit Activators, your Before, During, and After units all work together. This is what happened in our conversation when we applied real estate examples to all the 8-Profit Activator steps, from identifying a target audience, all the way to converting those people into clients, and I have no doubt that he'll be able to execute and apply the things we talk about today. Links: Show Notes GoGoAgent.com Be a Guest Listing Agent Lifestyle Book Listing Agent Scorecard  

Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast, we're talking with Mardi Boettcher from California. Mardi is embarking on a new adventure as a coach, and this is a perfect example of how all of the elements of the Before Unit perfectly fit in place. We went right through from selecting her target audience to getting people to raise their hand so she can build an audience of ideal prospects, and we talked about Profit Activator 3: How to educate, motivate, and engage in a dialogue with them so she can present the offer to join her program. It was a great conversation because she has a really focused secret target audience, looking to attract ladies who are entering their sixties and who want to amplify and get everything they can out of life. She has a real passion for this way of living. She loves the idea of working with this audience, and she's well on the way to get there. Show Links:Show TranscriptProfitActivatorScore.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Today on the Book More Show we're talking about books to identify invisible leads and books that motivate people to take the next step. If you've followed us for any time, you've heard us refer to Dean's 8-Profit Activators and the before unit, looking at how you attract and engage with future customers. We've talked about Profit Activator 1: selecting a single target market in the past, well today we're going a little deeper into Profit Activators 2 & 3, compelling your best prospects to raise their hand, and educating and motivating them to take the next step. How you plan to use your book will influence your title, content, and next steps, and understanding the difference between Profit Activator 2 & 3 will help narrow your scope. It will guide your thoughts on the content and help craft a clearer call to action. All of which means you're more likely to get your book created and out there working for you. Every book is a combination of the 2, but understanding that identifying leads and motivating people to take the next step are two distinct mindsets (both for you and your potential customer) is one of the most important lead generation tips we can share. As always, getting any book out there is better than no book, so don't let this distinction be an excuse to slow down. Instead, think about whether the main ‘job of work' of your book is to identify people who don't yet know you, or to motivate those who do, to take the next step… Then get on with getting on. Check out the show notes for links to the 5 Book Title formulas and 8-Profit Activators books we talk about.   Links: Show Notes Learn more about creating your own book at: 90MinuteBooks.com Get Started at 90MinuteBooks.com/start See how you can amplify your book idea by completing your free scorecard at BookBlueprintScore.com

Today on the More Cheese, Less Whiskers podcast we're talking with Chris Hill all the way from New Zealand. Now, I first met Chris at a Breakthrough Blueprint event in London. He came to the very first event I did there, and he runs a company called Hands up Holidays. It’s a really interesting company because they combine luxury travel with voluntourism. Chris has a really a great backstory to how all of this happened. His company has gone through different iterations and different ways it's evolved over time, and what we were talking about today is how do we, when you've got a global market as an opportunity and you've got a very defined type of person who you're trying to attract, how do you narrow that down to the best people to approach. I always love when we spent a lot of time in our Profit Activator one, trying to zone in on the ideal target audience and how to get people to raise their hands. You're really going to enjoy how we dial it in over this episode. Show Links:Show TranscriptProfitActivatorScore.com HandsUpHolidays.com   Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Today on the Book More Show we're looking at the '7 Key Factors in Creating Compelling Ads' and how you can use that framework to help create or promote your book. Whenever you come across a framework, it's a great opportunity to use it through the lens you want. This works for any framework out there, even if it's not directly applicable to your subject. By altering the words slight, or changing the context to better match yours, using a different framework can be a great way to prompt yourself to answer questions you may not have previously thought of. This particular one comes from the Breakthrough Blueprint Online course (BreakthroughDNA.com) and is part of Profit Activator 2) Compelling Prospects to Call You. You'll recognize a few of the step as they are some of the contributing thoughts to the Book Blueprint Scorecard, but this is a great illustration of the point. Asking questions in a different way helps expand the conversation, and that's where opportunity lies. If you've had a book idea in your head for while, this is a great show to prompt you to get it out and on to paper. Don't forget to check out the show notes for the Breakthrough Blueprint slide we're talking about. Links: Show notes: 90minutebooks.com/podcast/075 Titles & Outline Workshops: 90MinuteBooks.com/Workshops Ready to get started: 90MinuteBooks.com Interview Shows: 90-Minute Books Author Interviews Questions/Feedback: Send us an email Extra Credit Listening: MoreCheeseLessWhiskers.com  

Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast we're talking with Rebecca Hourihan from San Diego, and Rebecca helps financial advisors with their marketing, branding, and content strategies. We had a really great conversation about all of the tools she’s able to help people with, and some of the strategies she can apply right now to increase the number of people they can help. When we got to the bottom of it, we figured out that the thing that's going to make the biggest impact for Rebecca right now is working on some Profit Activator two steps of collecting more lead. Opportunities that are going to get her in conversations with people, and then, in Profit Activator three, begin to educate and motivate those people by increasing the frequency that she’s adding value and always using that as the opportunity to present her super signature and ways to get started. This is a really fun conversation. Rebecca's very enthusiastic and I love talking with people who love marketing.   Show Links:Show TranscriptProfitActivatorScore.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast we're going to be talking with Matty & Stacey Turner from Australia, via Amsterdam, while I'm in Toronto. It's quite an international connection! The Turners are nutritionists who work with people, helping them build custom nutrition plans, and we talked a lot about the whole of their business, about the different ways they end up helping people, the ways they end up finding people to help. We really had a great discussion about both the front end of finding new people using the Profit Activator 2 mindset to get people to raise their hands, then we ended by talking about referrals and how to orchestrate referrals from the people that already know them, like them, trust them, and are getting great results with them. There's a lot here for you, whether you're looking to attract more people, or help the people you work with, make the connection to you at the right time. abc   Show Links:Show TranscriptProfitActivatorScore.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Welcome to the MoreCheeseLessWhiskers.com podcast. Today we're talking with Jamie Larson from Burnaby, British Columbia. Jamie’s an audiologist and he works with people who need hearing aids and helps them get the right information to make the right choice. He's written a book and we talked about how he uses that book as a lead generator. It’s been working great and we brainstormed some ways to make his advertising, his initial offer in Profit Activator 2, more compelling versus convincing, as well as talking about some referral strategies. We had a great conversation. He's got a great action plan, and I think you'll enjoy this episode.   Links: MoreCheeseLessWhiskers.com ProfitActivatorScorecard.com 90MinuteBooks.com   Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Intro: Hi! This is Glenn McQueenie, and welcome to 20 Minutes of Insider Secrets of Successful Niches. This is where you learn the insider secrets to dominate your target market. You'll learn to work with high-margin, super-happy clients, and build a tribe of loyal, raving fans for your business. So excited to have you join me today, so sit back and enjoy 20 Minutes of Insider Secrets of Successful Niches. Glenn: Hello and welcome to my Success Series podcast. I'm Glenn McQueenie, and I'm so happy and honoured to have my special guest, the one and only Dean Jackson, join me today. How are you doing, Dean? Dean: Wow. I'm fantastic. That's quite a nice intro there. Glenn: Well, you know, Dean, we've known each other for probably almost 20-22 years now, and you've had such a profound impact on my life with all of your coaching and wisdom, so I'm just so honoured that you've taken the time to come and join me so that we can help these listeners just really learn the value of why a niche market is so important. And it really is a kind of future for most real estate agents today. Dean: Yeah, I'm excited. It's great to see you out podcasting here. I love it. Glenn: Thanks. So just for our listeners, can you give us a minute or two about yourself, Dean? Just tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we'll get right into it. Dean: Sure. You mentioned we've known each other for over 20 years now. I started out as a real estate agent in Halton Hills, just outside of Toronto. And when we met, probably in '93 or '94, my passion was really marketing, and applying marketing to my real estate business. And then from there, creating systems that I could then share with other real estate agents. And when Joe Stumpf and I met up, we partnered up and built a big real estate coaching organization going all over North America. So it's been quite a journey. But it's been my first love, real estate, and coupling it with marketing has really been quite an amazing journey. Glenn: And you've done so much now, Dean. The list goes on, from the ilovemarketing.com podcast, which I think is one of the top marketing podcasts in the world, to your most recent one now, which is morecheeselesswhiskers.com, which I just love what you're doing on that, because you're really talking to people who have used your other program, which is, I think, Breakthrough DNA, using all your 8 Profit Activators, and then you're interviewing them to see how it's really affected their business. And I'd encourage everybody to go to morecheeselesswhiskers.com or ilovemarketing.com. Dean: Yeah, exactly. There are so many things, but you mentioned More Cheese Less Whiskers as a podcast, and there's actually an interesting thing. We talked about niche marketers. I actually did an episode with a guy who's a realtor in the south of France selling ultra high-end homes in Saint-Tropez, and we talked about that whole niche. But that really is the way things are going. I'm just excited to see you getting on that path of spreading the word about focused niches, rather than just kind of being a real estate agent, hoping to get enough business in the general market. But choosing a niche and taking control of it – that's a message that you're really helping to get out there. Glenn: Yeah, you know it really is my rallying call to the industry, because I think so many agents are so short-focused all the time, chasing their next deal instead of really building a business, and a long-term business. And I think the best way to do it is just by dominating one single niche or single target market, the way you talk about it in your 8 Profit Activators. Dean: At a time. I want to add that – at a time – because you can have multiple niches, but treating it more like Procter & Gamble, where they're independent brands, where you've got, specifically for that niche, they feel like you're the one that understands them more than anybody else. Glenn: Right. And when I've been teaching this, and both of my books that I've published, I've gone through your company, 90-Minute Books, and when I'm kind of spreading the word around, I always refer to your company, because I really believe this product that you've developed, where someone can really do their own book in 90 minutes. And you've developed such a great system for that. I think today, it's almost like the book is the new business card, and so many people feel overwhelmed about that whole idea. But I think, and what I'm really excited about talking about today, is just how you can be creating content for your niche. And part of that content could be creating your own book. So can you just tell me a little bit about your journey into creating 90-Minute Books? Dean: I break things down to the components, right? So in order to, we talked about my Profit Activators. One of those is selecting a single target market – that's Profit Activator 1. And Profit Activator 2 is compelling your prospects to raise their hand; to call you. Not going out and cold calling or prospecting people. So I am always focused on, “how can we get people to come to you, rather than you having to go out and chase them?” And so the thing that I found that works better than anything is tapping into self-interest. And that means that somebody sees something valuable, like a book, which has so much historical context, as being something that is indisputable in terms of an authority piece. You know, you think that books are valuable. Just try to get somebody to throw out a book or tear up a book, you know? We're so conditioned that we revere books as a society, so to have written a book is a badge of expertise. And if you title a book to tap into the self-interest that your target audience has, it's so easy to get people to raise their hand. And then you can, in Profit Activator 3, educate and motivate them. But the thing about the 90-Minute Book, the reason that they're small books that are easy to consume, and they are, what I would call, the minimum viable product level of a book. And there's a whole thing in start-up culture about the lean start-up, and one of the concepts that they have is creating the minimum viable product or the minimum effective dose of something. So if you're going to use a book as a lead-generator, which is really the most valuable thing that you can use it for, what's the minimum effective dose to get the result that you're looking for, which is to turn an invisible prospect into a visible prospect – somebody that you've never met or heard of, that they raise their hand and identify themselves? So with that, the thing that's most important is that you have a book, that you have a title, that upon reading it, the person you want to be in conversation with, says, “I want that book. That's the book for me.” And, you have a way for them to get it. Now if you have those three things, it doesn't matter if the book is 50 pages or 250 pages, because as soon as somebody asks for it, the book has done its job. And now, you can engage in a dialogue with somebody. So going beyond that minimum effective dose of writing or doing more than 50 pages for a lead-generation book, it's not what I call ‘making the boat go faster.' It's not adding anything. It's not going to get more response because you have 250 pages and you took 9 months to write the book, then you're going to get by carefully thinking through, “What's the title of the book that my audience would love to have?” and then spending 90 focused minutes on creating the starter conversation – the conversation that's just going to establish you as the expert and lead people to the next step, which is to be in a relationship with you. Glenn: Right. I love how you say the minimum effective dose, because I always think about books, and I'm a very prolific reader like you are. And most books, there's this standard of 250-300 pages, and someone just made it up, like, “That looks like it's enough to create value.” But we know that every book, really, the top 20%, you know within 50 pages, they could condense any book ever written down to 50 great pages, and that would be enough. Dean: And it would be better if they did that. How many books have you read that you could get the point across in 50 pages and the rest of it is just fluff and filler and enough to add it all up? You know it's interesting, Glenn. I saw in The New York Times there was a big feature about the state of books, and because with Kindle and Kobo now with all these readers, they have access to the data on how much of these books are actually being read. Because more than half, I think it was 57%, Glenn, of people who buy a book never open it. So they buy it on their Kindle, they grab it, and then they never open it. And some small number, only 20% or just over 20% of people actually read beyond 100 pages – and that's in a bestseller. So I think there's something to that. If you can, condense your idea into a really great foundation to lead enough so that somebody wants to take the next step. Glenn: Right. And I've thought this many times, that the winning book for many people who are listening to this right now would be something like “The 12 Secrets to Buying Your First Home in ____” (their neighbourhood). I think a city's too broad sometimes, but in Midtown, Downtown. “The 12 Secrets to Buying Your First Condo in Downtown Toronto.” And I think the more that you focus it, first of all I think the more reception you're going to get on the book. But when I'd talked to you previously, you said really that book is like a one-hour buyer consultation that's recorded and published. Because all the buyers and sellers, there's probably 10-20 questions that they're going to ask us. Every client will ask us the same ones. So what if we could just hit those top 10 or 12 questions, and then instead of doing a 1-hour interview with somebody, you could have 3,000 people download the book, and you've done 3,000 1-hour interviews? Dean: That's exactly it. You're right on. And you don't need more than that to get somebody engaged enough to want to take the next step. And it's the most important. I mean, let's think about what the reality is, that in the real estate business, the thing that we're ultimately looking for is to help somebody find a house and buy it, and to help somebody sell their house – to find a buyer and sell their house. Those are the two core things that we actually get paid for. That's the result that we're creating. And so, just leading into that, if you can get more people started in the conversation, that's a really cool thing to do. Glenn: The more people you're having conversations with, I think the law of numbers would just have to work in your favour, where you're going to be generating more leads and more appointments, and more signed contracts and more revenue, and building a bigger business. Dean: That's it, exactly. Yeah, you're reverse engineering. What has to happen from there? Glenn: So what changes have you seen in the real estate industry just over the last couple years, as far as lead-generation and marketing's changed. What's the biggest change? Dean: Well it's certainly happening. We've seen the evolution, where, 25 years ago, when I created the guide to Halton Hills, the Halton Hills real estate prices, there was no Internet, no email. It was just print advertising, offering a book that was valuable to people who are considering moving out to Halton Hills. And then we've seen the evolution where when everything went online, it was, if you were ahead of the curve, to be able to say, “Search all the homes online.” That was a valuable differentiator so that people could go and do that. But now, you've seen it evolve that every piece of information about every house is available now, and everybody knows that it's available. So just being able to say, “Hey, come search all the homes” – that's over. That's not what is the value that you create now. Now, the value is about going outside of the algorithm, and being something that the computers can't provide for people. It used to be, “Hey, get daily updates of all the homes,” or “Get weekly updates of all the new homes that came on the market.” Well everybody has every home the minute it comes on the market on their phone, available to them right now. So that's not really a differentiator. But if you want to find the best homes in a particular neighbourhood that have some particular attribute that's a qualitative type of thing, that's a different situation. And that's really where we have the opportunity to excel, not just about the data. Glenn: Yeah. I think it's really about the value now, the hyper-local wisdom that can't be Googled anywhere. Because I've got to tell you, I've been to some parties lately, and people will come up and say, “Hey Glenn, what did that house sell for?” expecting that you would know what every home sold for in your city. And I never know what they sold for. But there's always Sally at the party who's not a realtor, who always jumps in and says, “Oh, there were 8 offers on that house. It sold for this much over the asking.” And I'm like, “Great job, Sally. Thanks a million,” whereas that information used to be all ours, right? Dean: Right. That's the thing. That's where it's not the advantage that it used to be to be the keepers of the information. I remember 25 years ago when the Wednesday paper would come out in Georgetown, that if you were manning the office that night, that the floor calls would be huge, because the Wednesday paper would come out, people would see the new listings, and they'd want to call in and get the information, because there was no other way to get it. Who's calling anybody about anything anymore? It's so easy to get that information. But if you can differentiate yourself, we have an opportunity to be a market-maker. That's really where it is. If you can triangulate, so for example, here in Winter Haven, we would do a guide to Lakefront homes in Winter Haven, and we would be advertising that in print and in Facebook, and wherever people are looking for Lakefront homes. And at the same time, be doing a listing-getting campaign for the Lakefront homes, looking for people who are going to sell their home, and be able to match those people up, triangulating them, that's where you have the opportunity. Now, you've got insider knowledge of access to people who are thinking about buying a home, and you've got insider information on people who are thinking about selling their home. Your opportunity then is to match those people up. That's where you're adding value, because they don't have access to that. Glenn: And it's invisible, right? Nobody sees it. Dean: It is invisible. And that's where having a book gives you the opportunity to get those people to raise their hand. Glenn: I think most agents feel like they're market-takers right now, so I love that whole idea of when you go deep into your niche, you have that local wisdom, that you actually are the market-maker, and a market-matcher, too. Dean: Yes, that's what it is. That's what you have the opportunity to do. I point to the example of Molson beer in Canada. They would run an ad in Cosmo magazine with a picture of a guy who looks like a model in a field with these puppies. And it was an image ad, and all the ad would say is “His address: The intersection between masculinity and sensitivity. His beer: Molson Canadian.” And they'd just have the small Molson logo there, you know? And they would run that ad, so that they could run an ad in the men's magazines that said, “Hundreds of thousands of women pre-programmed for your convenience.” And then they would describe how, while you're reading this ad, hundreds of thousands of women are reading a completely different ad scientifically designed to increase the attraction they feel to men who drink Molson. And they would show a picture of the ad that they were running in Cosmo magazine. And all you have to do to activate this attraction is to order a Molson beer. So it's really this masterful triangulation of thinking about, “What does your prospect want?” Glenn: That's an awesome story. That's just amazing. Dean: Have you heard, Glenn, of Opendoor? Have you seen what they're doing in the States there? Glenn: That's like a minimum bid or guaranteed sale program. I've just read an article the other day. Dean: Guaranteed sale. So they are choosing a niche of the middle of the market: single-family homes after 1960, three-bedroom standard homes in the $150,000-$500,000 price range, and they algorithmically will figure out what the house is worth. And if you want to sell your house, you just call them. They will calculate algorithmically what the price is, and take off 6%, and then a small 6 or 8% risk fee, to give you a guaranteed sale price on your house. Now that is pretty interesting that in Phoenix, they were able to get a 2% market share in a pretty short amount of time. So for some people, that's really what they want. But imagine if you could do that same thing for a specific niche. If you're the person that's controlling the market, or a certain segment, and you are also then finding the buyers for that, you get the opportunity to be the dream come true for those sellers. Glenn: And you're just matching them up, one by one. Yeah, it's so interesting, the potential disrupting technologies. And I know billions has been spent on it, but my sense is that we might be losing the first 50 or 60 or 70 yards of the transaction, but I think we're still holding the last 30, which is really the most important part. Dean: That's exactly it. I go to see Peter Diamandis, and I go to his Abundance 360 events, and I see that what we have the opportunity to do is control the last hundred feet. Glenn: And I think that the more local wisdom and knowledge you know, you get out of being a commodity. Just being in a niche, you couldn't be a commodity. But I think the more hyper-local you're in there with that unique knowledge, I just think that's the long-term protection plan for realtors these days. Dean: Yes. Absolutely. Glenn: So why do you think the conventional wisdom of the two hours of lead-generation and cold calling and door-knocking is wrong? Or the prospecting-based business? Whereas, your 90-Minute Books really is about targeting a niche market. Tell me about that. Dean: Well I think that there's just so much more leverage in it. First of all, who are you going to reach on the phone nowadays anyway, right? I mean, doing the outbound prospecting like that is just so inefficient, especially when there's ways to reach out much more leveraged through specific direct mail, through Facebook advertising, through targeted pay-per-click advertising, print advertising in the right publications – all these things where you can get your audience to raise their hand. It's just so much more leverage. And that's been something that I've been hammering for 25 years. As soon as you can get out of that outbound prospecting mode, you free up some time to focus creatively on getting somebody to raise their hand. If you invest that 90 minutes to create an asset that, just like you said, you could do 3,000 buyer consultations that way, it's total leverage. Whereas prospecting is like a hamster wheel – as soon as you stop doing it, it stops working. Glenn: That's right. What would be a great first step for someone listening to this podcast to do if they're thinking about getting their niche in 90-Minute Books? Dean: I think assessing your market. Thinking through, “Where is it that if I could just wave a magic wand, and have this segment of the market, what would that be?” And I think, not just so much in that it's townhouses or that it's condos or that it's a specific segment of the market, but more of a qualitative type of thing. Something that is outside of an algorithm. Something that requires some sort of education around it. And you could have a niche for parents who want to invest in real estate while their kids are at college. Or first-time buyers who want to buy a multi-family home they can live in, rent out part, and build some equity that way. You start to think outside of the box there. And you start thinking, “What would be the title of the book that somebody in that target audience would definitely want to read?” And that's a good start. If you could get somebody to raise their hand like that, and ask for that book, now you've got an asset. You've got a way to start your triangulation, finding those buyers. And then if you can identify the types of homes that would fit for that, and you start a listing campaign in that model, now you're able to triangulate. That's really where the value is. Glenn: I love that if you can get the right title, identify the right market, know what their unique problems are, and create a program or model to solve it, then you really become the algorithm. Because that's what an algorithm is, right? Dean: Yes. You are. And it's unique to you, because it's something that a computer can't do. That's where I looked long-term for the digitization. I mean, for years, nobody would have ever thought that it would be possible for somebody to buy a house sight unseen, like Opendoor is doing. That's coming. And it's here now – I mean the artificial intelligence to be able to offset that risk for them, because they've got access to all the data in a neighbourhood. So by narrowing to the middle of the market like that, that sort of thing is coming. But if you now have the buyers for that, that just proves that sellers want to do what's the easiest thing for them. And they'll often trade off that they're getting a little bit less, but it's a guarantee, and they don't have to deal with the process of selling their house. But if you can get it so that they're calling you, because you've got the buyers, that makes it so much easier. So I think if I can get people to think one thing, it's to think that way. Think about triangulating. Think about being a market-maker. What would that niche look like for them? Glenn: Yeah. So pick the niche that you want to work in. Then try to find how we can triangulate it, where we can go after just getting the buyers for that market, and then use your data and pool of buyers to start targeting the sellers. “I've got 12 people who are desperate to buy this triplex in this corner of the city, and if you want the no-fuss and no-muss of putting a house on the market, give me a call and we can bring them there right away.” And then expanding that, because then you can start doing complementary neighbourhoods, because people move in pretty predictable patterns. “Here's where most of the first-time buyers buy, and then here's where most of them move up, and then here's when they trophy.” And if you can almost be a market-maker in between there, and it's this hidden secret market because you dominate your niche, I think it's a winning formula. Dean: Absolutely. Glenn: Well Dean, thank you so much for joining me. Any last advice that you would love to give anybody about doing their 90-Minute Book? Or just, where do they go if they want to do a 90-Minute Book? Dean: Yeah. To start the process they can go to 90MinuteBook.com and download a copy of The 90-Minute Book, which is made using The 90-Minute Book process. So you get to see what it's about, what the result is, and we can take everything from there. I've got a whole team standing by to help get that process and make it easy for people. Glenn: And if people want to know more, too, your podcast, the More Cheese Less Whiskers is a great place where I think a lot of people have done the books, where you get to interview and you can actually kind of see what they've done. And I know it's been transformational in my business. So Dean, thank you so much, you've been a great friend, a great coach, and great mentor over the years, and I'm just so honoured you took some time to spend with us today. Dean: Awesome. Thanks so much. Glenn: Alright. Thanks. Closing: Thank you for listening to my 20-minute podcast on Insights of Successful Niches. My goal is to give you more financial freedom by helping you take your natural strengths to a target market of people you'd love to work with. You could find out more information by downloading my book for free for a limited time. The book's called “The McQueenie Method: Own Your Niche, Own Your Market” and you can download it at TheMcQueenieMethodbook.com. That's TheMcQueenieMethodbook.com. Imagine what it'd be like to spend two days with me in person to help you find your niche market. I will help you take your natural strengths and unique abilities to a target market of people you'd love to work with. You'll build a tribe of happy clients who become raving fans of your business. So, just go to TheMcQueenieMethod.com for upcoming dates. Thanks again and have a great day.

Today our guest is David Igono. Now, I don't know if you've noticed, but there are a lot of podcasts in the world right now! It seems like podcasts are becoming the hip, cool thing and David has a great concept for a podcast specializing in college golf.  Just like anything you create, you have to have an understanding of why your podcast exists. What is its purpose? For me, I’ve always found a podcast is not about generating leads, but it's more about converting leads. A podcast is more of a Profit Activator 3 vehicle, for educating and motivating people toward an outcome. It's a very noisy market right now so you still need to be able to do some lead generation. You're not going to be able to just put up your podcast and hope that people find it, but the good news is that you can be very specialized in the show you create, and that creates lots of opportunities for you. Once you get clear on who you want to be a hero to, then you really get an opportunity to be a market maker. This is something David and I spend a lot of our conversation figuring out today. You're really going to enjoy this episode, especially if you've been considering or if you have a podcast that you're trying to figure out its place in the world.   Show Links:Show TranscriptProfitActivatorScore.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...  

Every once in awhile I get to talk about one of my favorite things. I have two big loves in the world. It's marketing, of course, and it's applying that marketing to real estate, because that's how I started out my business. That's how I learned a lot of the marketing things that we talk about today and where I developed a lot of the principles that became the 8-Profit Activator. Today we're talking with Thomas March, a real estate agent from California. We had a great conversation. I'd love to apply the 8-Profit Activators to real estate. I think you're going to enjoy this as there are a lot of transferrable lessons because real estate is such a relatable business. Everybody's had a real estate experience. It translates well into other businesses.   Show Links:Show TranscriptGoGoAgent.comProfitActivatorScore.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...  

Welcome to the MoreCheeseLessWhiskers.com podcast. Today we have a great conversation with Amar Ghose. Amar and some of his partners run software as a service for maid companies called ZenMaid.com. We talked about a lot in this episode. It's very fractal in that we jump around talking about each of the Profit Activators and how there are specific things to focus on in the During Unit including how people use your service and what the dream come true experience is that you provide so you can highlight that in the Before Unit. We also got to talk about some great example of separating the compelling elements of Profit Activator two from the convincing education of Profit Activator three. In Profit Activator two, we want to focus on only the job of getting people to raise their hand. We want to start a dialog. We want to turn invisible prospects into visible prospects. I think you're going to find all this very helpful if you have any kind of an ongoing membership service, so tune in!   Show Links:Show TranscriptGoGoClients.com     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Welcome to the More Cheese Less Whiskers Podcast Today we are talking with Ashe Higgs from Tempe, Arizona. Ashe runs a martial arts program called I Liq Chuan and as you listen to this episode, you'll see the underlying structure, the puzzle that we're trying to solve is essentially, he has a location where he serves members through classes and private lessons, so how can we best fill that capacity. That’s the mechanics, the logistics of what actually happens and you can overlay everything that we talk about to any business that follows that model. It could just as easily be a fitness studio, an after school tutoring program, a tennis or golf instructor or anything where the model is that you find people, you bring them into your environment, you let them experience what you have to offer, and they join to stay as a member and continue to use those services. It's important you understand the underlying limitations, constraints or goals for what we're looking at here. It's often the case when we start out to want to focus on the ad or what can we do to generate leads. You’ll see today that the path to Profit Activator 2 often goes through Profit Activator 5, understanding exactly what it is that you do to create that world-class experience, that dream come true for people, and Profit Activator 1 of who is that an ideal fit for. Once you understand those two things then we can get to work on the rest of the before unit activator. I think you're really going to enjoy this episode no matter what business you're in.   Show Links:Show TranscriptProfit Activator Score     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Welcome to the MoreCheeseLessWhiskers.com podcast. Today we have an international caller from Switzerland, Roman Bourquin, and we're going to really focus our time getting deep into Profit Activator number one. This is the most important Profit Activator. Really selecting who your target audience is, really getting to understand what it is that they're going through, what it is that they need and are looking for, helps identify the intersection of what they really need and what you can offer. What is the dream come true scenario that you can provide for that audience before we ever get to think about Profit Activator 2, how to get them to raise their hand. I think you're going to really get a lot out of listening to the wheels turning and how we can dig into understanding what an audience really wants, where they are, how to structure the way that we look at it.   Show Links:Show TranscriptEmailMastery.com book Breakthrough DNA book 90-Minute Books     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Today we have a treat. We're talking with Taki Moore. For those of you who don't know him yet, Taki is a coach who coaches, coaches, helping them build million dollar coaching practices. He’s one of my favorite people to brainstorm with because Taki like me is a 10 quick start on the Kolbe measure, and he implements like crazy. We'll hatch an evil scheme, he'll implement it immediately and come back and share the results. We were messaging last night. He was asking about what strategies we could use with chatbots. It was a great thread and I thought that's a great idea for a MoreCheeseLessWhiskers episode. So in this call we talk about the role of chatbots in our Profit Activator 3 lead conversion system. I think this is going to be a really great way for you to set a context if you're going to go into using bots and automations to help convert leads.   Show Links:Show TranscriptEmailMastery.com book Join the Email Mastery Group: Email Me     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Today I'm talking with Todd Herman. Todd is the creator of the 90-Day Year and, if you’ve been paying attention over the last couple of years you'll have seen this idea getting a lot of traction. He has a very mature business and a great launch-based model. We talk about how to really capitalize on the biggest asset he has, which turns out to be his list of all the people who, in Profit Activator 3, have responded and raised their hand as being interested in the idea of a 90-Day Year. His biggest opportunity is to really expand the way he leverages that asset and help those people take the next step. We focused a lot of our time this episode, really going deep in that concept. This is an episode you’re really going to enjoy.     Show Links:Show TranscriptEmailMastery.com book Join the Email Mastery Group: Email Me     Want to be a guest on the show? Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Print advertising is often look at as the poor, unsophisticated cousin of online. In a world where it can be easy to get swayed by the abundance of vanity metrics, it's easy to forget that effectiveness is the really important metric & in certain markets, print can still get through where 'banner blindness' turns online into an ever increasing numbers game. Inspired by a 1/2 page print ad I saw over the weekend, today we're looking at a real life example print ad being run in a national newspaper. There are some great takeaways here you can use to engage cold leads. Remember, this is a Profit Activator #2 tactic: Identifying invisible leads. You're not trying to convince people to do business with you (yet). This stage is all about compelling them to join a conversation with you. Check out the show notes at: Ep020 Stairlift Secrets Revealed

Today, we have a really great conversation with Kyle LeMarie. Kyle is here in Orlando, not too far from me, and he's making some wild innovations in the independent musician space. He's really cracking the code, helping independent artists taking matters into their own hands, taking it back some of the power that big corporations have had in control of the music industry and making it easy and kind of forging a path for independent musicians to get their voice heard, to build their audience and to really apply the 8-Profit Activators to the independent musician. He has a lot of great things that are going on and it was surprising to hear just how thoughtful he's been in applying the 8-Profit Activators to independent musicians and the success they've had. This is a great conversation about the mechanisms that are easily deployed to build an audience and how to progress people through all stages of the Profit Activator stages.   Links: I'm doing 5 small group masterminds over the summer in: Orlando, Toronto, London, Amsterdam, Sydney. We're going to spend 3 days going deep in applying the 8 Profit Activators to your business. Would you like to join us? Just send me email to dean@deanjackson.com, put your city in the subject line and I'll get you all the details! BreakthroughDNA.com/Live   Want to be a guest on the show?  Simply follow the 'Be a Guest' link on the left & I'll be in touch. Download a free copy of the Breakthrough DNA book all about the 8 Profit Activators we talk about here on More Cheese, Less Whiskers...

Welcome back to the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast. Today we have a great episode as I talk with Bill Bloom.  Bill is a financial advisor who also happens to be a yachter. He’s written a book called The Yachter's Guide to Early Retirement. It’s very exciting because he's figured out now a way to get people to raise their hand. He has the perfect Profit Activator 2 asset to make invisible prospects, visible. Something that gets people to raise their hands. We picked up the conversation talking about the next stage. Now he's done that, what does he need to do for Profit Activator 3. How can we maximize the relationship with the people who have raised their hand?  We need to connect with them to find out who are the five star prospects within that group. We need to figure out the best way we can help these people and how to best articulate the offers we'll use in Profit Activator 4 to deliver them to the During unit, creating a dream come true experience. We spent the whole hour talking about this one conversion process, moving people from raising their hand, to taking action. It's going to be a nice deep dive for you on converting leads. If that's the situation that you're in, I think you're really going to enjoy it.   Links: EmailMastery.com 90MinuteBooks.com

Welcome to the More Cheese, Less Whiskers podcast. Today we have another great show as I talk with Paul Kang from all the way around the globe in Korea where he’s in charge of marketing and helping to grow the international school in Busan. What’s really interesting in this episode, is going through the process of identifying where the opportunity is. What will ‘make the boat go faster’. Paul’s school is specifically for people being relocated or coming to Korea for a short period of time, maybe a couple of years, who want to educate their kids in an international school. These are truly invisible prospects, and the real opportunity lies in identifying those people ahead of time. We get right down to defining how the before unit might apply here and put ourselves in the mind of a person who has just discovered they're going to Korea. What would they do? I suggested one of the first things anyone with children (our target audience) would do is to start searching 'Korean international school'… so we hatched a great evil scheme to be the best result for people searching those words. They're not familiar with Korea, they don't know what's going on, they don't know what to do. They want the best for their kids and they're searching their options. We talked a lot about not convincing people, but using the power of what they're already searching for to compel them to raise their hand and identify themselves. Understanding the job-of-work at this stage, Profit Activator #2, is to make invisible prospects visible. Educating and motivating them to take action comes next. You're really going to enjoy this episode, especially if you are dealing with invisible prospects.   Links ProfitActivatorScore.com EmailMastery.com90MinuteBooks.com Busan International School

Welcome to the More Cheese, Less Whiskers podcast. In today's episode I'm going to go through the 8 Profit Activator Scorecard with you. >> Begin Your Scorecard

Welcome to The More Cheese, the Less Whiskers podcast. This week we have a very exciting episode. We have best-selling author Jamie Smart. Jamie is the author of the books "Clarity" and "The Little Book of Clarity". He also has a new book coming out in about eight weeks and it's called "Results, Think Less, Achieve More". One of the things that Jamie's really known for is writing very insightful books - when I say insightful, meaning there's no practice, there's no effort required for you to make a change. Once you read the book, you get the insight. Change is immediate and inevitable. I love that kind of thing about the way Jamie writes, but he's got a really cool opportunity with the largest bookseller in the UK for some special placement in their travel-related book stores in the airports and train stations and motorway stores. We are going to spend some time today brainstorming how to maximize this opportunity. We start out with how to convert as many of the people as you can who are in the store and pick up the book, to actually buy the book, and then work backward from there. You'll see the over-riding strategy in how we look at this, how we select that target audience and apply it to a Profit Activator. We had a really great discussion. Lots of great ideas came out of it, and I think we'll see how they can apply to any business. A way of thinking and insight about how you apply the Profit Activators to your business. Enjoy the episode.

This week, we've got a really great episode. I spent some time with Mike Russell, who has a business that turns dentists' waiting lounges into an opportunity in the during unit where, on average, people are waiting for about 8 minutes.  Mike's team have a really great system that play videos that rather than overtly-selling are educational. We talk in Profit Activator 3 about educating and motivating, and this is one opportunity to guide customers to the next step. Now, it's a relatively new adventure for him and one of the things we talked about is how do you get the word out about something that's new.  One of the ideas, building on last weeks episode, is  to create a pilot program and document the results so it's easy for the dentist to see the impact of using these videos in their waiting lounges.  I'm pretty excited about this episode. I think you'll enjoy it. Here we go.

This week I'm talking with immigration lawyer Jim Hacking. We started off expecting to find some new Profit Activator 2 audiences, but ended up uncovering a great opportunity to dominate his after unit... Want to be a guest on the show?  Head over to morecheeselesswhiskers.com & follow the 'Be a Guest' link.

Step behind the scenes with us onto one of our recent weekly private group coaching “Profit Activator” calls on how you can literally shred your past!   Are their things from 2014 or further back, memories, debt, bad experiences, etc. that you wish you could just rip into shreds so that these things no longer had any power over you?   That’s exactly what I’m going to teach you how to do in this exercise I recently taught to an elite group of my private coaching clients.   The exercise starts with making an actual list on paper of the things in your past that you want to get rid of.   So, what do you write down?   Write down the things in your life and past that just don’t serve you.   It could be excess debt or pounds you’re carrying, it could be guilt from a past business or relationship, it could be fear of getting out of your comfort zone or failure, anything that you want to get rid of in your life.   What if you could eliminate your belief that you’re not good enough, or that you’re not a morning person, or you don’t take action?   How much better would you feel, and how much more could you accomplish without these unhealthy emotions, beliefs, and memories weighing you down?   Once you have your paper filled out, take one last look at everything on it, because it’s the last time you’ll see these things.   Then, take it, and rip it to shreds!   Shred it into tiny little pieces, tiny little pieces that couldn’t possibly have any power over you.   Now, how good does that feel??!!   So, here’s how you lock it in…   Ask yourself, is it going to hurt me at all to just believe that it will work?   Am I going to be any worse off, by just accepting the process, and accepting that it really could be that simple to reframe my beliefs and the emotional power I’ve given these things for so long?   Of course not.     Give yourself permission to accept that the positive change you desire could happen that easily without challenging that belief.   Reach out to us on social media or send us an email and let us know how you enjoyed “shredding your past”!   Thank you for subscribing to our podcast in iTunes!  You create your own good fortune!

Step behind the scenes with us onto one of our recent weekly private group coaching “Profit Activator” calls on how you can literally shred your past! Are their things from 2014 or further back, memories, debt, bad experiences, etc. that you wish you could just rip into shreds so that these things no longer had any power over you? That’s exactly what I’m going to teach you how to do in this exercise I recently taught to an elite group of my private coaching clients. The post 123: How to Literally Shred the Past appeared first on Life On Fire.

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