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Dr. Len Tau, aka the Reviews Doctor, is on the podcast. With Kiera, he goes into the most critical nuts and bolts of making sure your practice stands out (or at least keeps pace with) online reviews amid AI. He explains jargon terms like ranking power and factors and velocity of reviews, whether or not you should actually be responding to reviews of your practice, and a ton more. Visit SuperchargeYourDentalPractice.com and enter the code RAVING to save $100 on registration for Dr. Tau's annual conference. About Dr. Tau Dr. Len Tau thrives on helping practices maximize their online reputation, marketing, and social media strategies. As a speaker, Len is known for his lively and engaging presentations packed with ready-to-use strategies. He regularly travels the country sharing his marketing brilliance and passion for practice growth with audiences. As a consultant, he offers practice leaders with real-world solutions tailored to fit their specific challenges and opportunities. Len loves to help doctors and their teams understand and implement successful online systems to build their practice. He currently serves as general manager of the Dental for Birdeye Reputation Marketing Software. Selected as one of Philadelphia's Top Dentists by Philadelphia Magazine, he continues to experience growth year after year in his fee-for-service practice focusing on general, cosmetic, reconstructive and implant dentistry. Following his father into the dental profession, Len graduated from Tufts University School of Dental Medicine and continues to pursue ongoing continuing education opportunities. He has had the privilege of serving patients for two decades. He is an active member of numerous professional organizations including the American Dental Association, the Pennsylvania Dental Association, the Academy of General Dentistry, the Eastern Dental Society, the Northeast Philadelphia Dental Implant Study Club, and the American Academy of Clear Aligners. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Kiera Dent (00:00) Hello, Dental Team listeners. This is Kiera and today I am so excited. This is one of my dear friends. We've known each other for several years in the industry. I'm super freaking pumped. I'm going actually be at his event next year in September. Little teaser. Stay tuned. He's got an amazing event he does every year in September. I have Dr. Len Tau. He is one of my faves. He is better known ⁓ as an authority in the dental consulting world, reputation marketing, and a practice growth. He's recognized by dentistry today as a top dental consultant for eight straight years. He is the author of Raving Patients and 100 plus tips to 105 star reviews in a hundred days. Like this man knows how to do it. He's one of my faves. We really do collaborate on so many fun things. After 20 plus years in clinical practice, he now helps dentists nationwide, increase revenue, case acceptance and visibility. He leads the dental vision at BirdEye, hosts the Raving Patients podcast and runs the Supercharger Dental Practice Conference, which is the one I was alluding to that we're gonna be at next year in September, empowering practices to thrive in today's competitive landscape. He's truly one of my faves. And today we're gonna dig into like, how do you get online reviews? But Len, welcome. I'm so happy to have you on the podcast. How are you today? Dr. Len Tau (01:06) I'm good, thanks for having me, I'm excited to be here. Kiera Dent (01:08) Of course. And this just came about because Len like, let's just do a little teaser. You're prepping full like steam ahead right now for your event that's coming up in September in Florida. ⁓ I love like the last time you and I were on the podcast, we talked about you in clinical dentistry. And then we reconnected after some time and you've left the chair, you're living your best life and you full blown gone into the event space. So just like, I know we're gonna get into like online reviews and how AI is changing that it's going to be just a really, really fun episode today. But tell us a little bit like How is it going from like full blown dentist in the chair to now full blown events, like running these awesome events that we're super excited to be a part. Just kind of give me a little insight to that. Dr. Len Tau (01:46) Well, it's been, it's been a lot of, a lot of fun. It's been very different, obviously, you know, for 23 years, I practiced dentistry, um, for about 12 of those, 13 of those who was full time. And then I went part time in 2017 until I sold and retired in 2022. Um, but one of the things I've grew up on in dentistry was going to dental events and, the big, the ones, the small ones, you know, all over the country and as a dentist first, and then as a vendor. Kiera Dent (02:08) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (02:15) Um, since 2013 or 14, so a long time in the space. know, one of the things that really hit me was that the events are not really put on very well. They're not, um, you know, whether you, if you're a dentist, there's issues when you're a vendor, there's issues. And I said, you know what? I want to change the game. And, um, one of my goals when I retired from dentistry was to start putting on events. So in 2023, um, in, in September, we did an event in Delray had 208. Kiera Dent (02:25) Right. Dr. Len Tau (02:44) Dennis there, 33 sponsors. was, first day was business, second day was marketing. Excuse me. First day was marketing. Second day was business. Had a 13, 14 speakers. It went off better than I could ever imagined. I then moved to the last year in 2024 to Scottsdale. And we were at the Scott Resort and Spa, which is a beautiful hotel and the event was good. It wasn't great. Definitely moving to different coasts. I felt there was not as much, know, engagement, excitement about the event. So I, my family and my wife and I decided, Hey, we're going to do this. Let's have people come down to me. I live in beautiful, you know, part of Florida. we're having this year's event and the next three of them at super at, ⁓ at pure 66, a brand new hotel, ⁓ in Fort Lauderdale. It's literally half hour from my house, five miles from the airport, easy to get to. So this year event is September 26th and 27th. Kiera Dent (03:32) Bye. you No. Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (03:45) We've got 14 speakers, ⁓ mixture of business and marketing. So we've got people talking about social media, about content. We have people talking about saving money on taxes. We're talking about how to become a fee-for-service practice. ⁓ So a lot of different great content and top speakers, Steve Rasner, Paul Goodman, ⁓ Jeff Buski, ⁓ Richard, Rich Maddow. So some real, real heavy hitters. And then some people who people haven't really heard of, Melanie Diesel, who's new in the dental industry. So, but I like to do it differently and my events are very high end. You come, you're going to see things you probably have never seen before. I give a ton of time to the vendors so the vendors love me because they make sure that they get integration or interaction with the attendees. So you're going to be speaking in 2026, same weekend at September 25th and 26th in 2026, same hotel, pure 66. Kiera Dent (04:28) Sure. Yeah. Dr. Len Tau (04:40) We're ramping things up right now. We're literally a month out from the events. still have people signing up. I still have people wanting to reach out as sponsors. And it's, it's, it's, is the fun time for me. Cause when I'm done, I'm, you know, I get a couple of months of break and then I start promoting 2027 again. So ⁓ it's been a good time. I really enjoy it. And I find that I've kind of ⁓ created something that's very different and the attendees really enjoy it and the vendors really enjoy it. So if I can make everybody happy, Kiera Dent (04:45) No. Dr. Len Tau (05:09) That's all I'm looking to do here. Kiera Dent (05:11) ⁓ and Len, I hope the audience, if they can't see it, they can hear it. I think it's so fun because I mean, I've seen you in different spaces in your career, in your life. And there is just this like giddy, like younger version of Len that I feel is emerging of like, it's like giddy boyhood, like excitement of I'm excited to put these on. I'm excited to do these events. And it just makes me so happy for you. And what I think I'm hearing is yes, attendees are happy. Vendors are happy. But I also hear that Len is very happy and to do something in dentistry is just very, very fun. It's very exciting. And so we're jazzed. I'm really excited. I love good events. I love great time. I love to help. love business marketing. Everybody can take that. That's not Kiera's jam. Like I, that's why I wanted to bring you on. You guys are very good at marketing. You're very good at that space. but to talk about how to help people have their best lives to grow the practices that they want to grow. I think you and I are so synergistic in that. So we're super excited and I love, I mean, I'm not going to highlight the fact that there were a couple of sixes in that is September 26 at Pier 66. You guys hopefully like, I like the alliteration. Don't put anything weird on it guys, but I do appreciate that you made it easier. September six and nines flipped upside down are a six. Like hopefully everybody can remember September 26, Pier 66. It'll be a good time in 2026. I mean, we got four lines, so we're okay. We've at least got four sixes, not we didn't end on three, but I really hope an exciting step. We'll make sure we put some info for people. For this year and for next year, I think it'll be a fun time. Dental A Team will be there, so come hang out with us. ⁓ Len, I'm super excited. I will not spoil secrets, but a lot of the things he told me for the events, I will say he does put his heart and soul into it. So Len, excited about that. Thank you for sharing. Good luck for this year. We're gonna be rooting you on this year and next year. And now let's pivot. Let's go into like your jam. You're in BirdEye, you're in marketing, you're on online reviews. AI has come into the scene. Practices are changing. I also will say, I hope everybody listens to you of their like succession story. You hung up the hand piece, but you are still full steam ahead in dentistry. And so I hope people see that like there is no path to dentistry. Like you just, it's a, it's a beautiful world that you're in. So let's talk though, online reviews, AI, how is this working? How do we make sure that practices are still being visible? Chat GPT is on, on the prowl. There are clients signing up with us now that have found us on chat. GPT, which is so random. It's changing how people have been doing things. Walk me through. What are you seeing with these online reviews? The importance, how to bring AI in? Like, let's just kind of go in a rift on how practices can still be visible with AIs. Like just showing up to the scene. Dr. Len Tau (07:43) So I wanna talk about chat CPT for a second. ⁓ I refer to it as my best friend. ⁓ It helps me edit. No, I haven't named it yet. No, I haven't named it. ⁓ you have? Kiera Dent (07:50) Have you named it? I've got to just ask Len. Have you named? I have! Me and Chet, I had a name and now her name is Wanda. I don't know why, I don't even know where Wanda came, but people are like, here, are you hanging out with Wanda again? Cause I agree. Like they're our best friends. So go on Len. I can't wait to hear what you name your Chet GPT cause mine is currently Wanda. Dr. Len Tau (08:06) I'll have to, I have to name it now that I have to think of something. ⁓ but no, I started using it. I'm like, this is really helpful and it's only gotten better. And, just to give you an idea is, ⁓ my wife and I, and my son, my son just graduated high school. He's literally just started his freshman year at, university of Florida on a free ride. ⁓ smart, smart ass kid. I'm very proud of him. But, you know, and I travel a ton, but I travel a ton for business and I made a commitment. I think I told you that, Kiera Dent (08:25) Boo? Yeah. Dr. Len Tau (08:35) during the summer when he was going away for school, I was not going to travel. So from March to literally next week, beginning of September, I haven't traveled at all for business. we did plan some really great travel for our personal lives. And one of the things we did was we had a cruise, a 17 day cruise to Europe. ⁓ And when I decided I did not want to do the excursions to the cruise, cause they're really expensive and you're with all these people. I prefer to kind of just go and tour myself. Kiera Dent (08:44) It's awesome. Dr. Len Tau (09:05) So I use ChatGPT in every city. And I said, I'm going to the city. This is what I'm going to get in. This is the cruise I'm going on. It got the cruise itinerary. And I said, I want to set up private tours in every city with different people. And it helped me pick the best tour guides. They referred me to a website called Tours by Local, which is an amazing website that you can meet people who are local that will take you around. show you the city and it was amazing. It was amazing. So I thank Chachi PT for doing that because I wouldn't have known about half these things if I didn't do it. And in fact, one of the women, and actually the very first place you went to, which was in Split, Croatia, which was beautiful. I told her that literally that's kind of how I went down this road was I asked Chachi PT, what should I do in Split? And they said, you need to use this tour guide. She's the highest rated tour guide and has the best reviews on tours by local. like, What's towards by local? And that started this whole thing. So she was, she was amazed to hear that. So, ⁓ I have been using Chad GPT for a long time, like I said, and even now it is people I know type in, know, get me to the best dentists in the area. And it's very much based on reviews. So you have to be a highly rated practice. you may not believe in reviews and if you do, think you're not smart, but you know, if, if you want to be at the forefront of where people are looking, Kiera Dent (09:58) Yeah. Yes. Dr. Len Tau (10:25) You have to generate reviews in a significant amount. Velocity now, which is how often you're getting them, is one of the biggest ranking factors on Google, whether you want to believe chat GPT or not. ⁓ But you have to get reviews. You can't, you know, rest on your laurels and say, well, I have enough because you never have enough. Okay. And, ⁓ and you've got to let Google rank you high. And there's been a big discrepancy in the industry, a big, I don't want to say a misunderstanding. Kiera Dent (10:43) read. Dr. Len Tau (10:52) But I've been in the review space now since 2013, so 12 years. And in the past, dentists thought that if they get reviews, they're going to rank. And that's not the way it is anymore. If you have reviews, but don't pay attention to the other ranking factors, you actually don't rank well. And that's a problem. So, chat GPT AI is so important, but you still got to dominate Google. You still got to get to the top of the pages. And that's really where the direction is going. and if you aren't there now and you are ignoring it, you're never going to get there. So I would love to talk to you about our list in instruct or educate the listeners and viewers of these ranking factors that they need, need to pay attention to, or they're going to be left behind when it comes to ranking on Google. Kiera Dent (11:27) Yeah. absolutely. And I'm excited for this too, because, I did notice that you've got to like, AI is just crawling the web. That's where it's getting, it's being taught. It's crawls it. It looks through all of it. And so agreed with you. have a lot of clients and like, we want the secret pill of marketing. And I might get your reviews up. Like it is constant and consistent that if you get those reviews up and you bring pieces to the table, that people literally like that's what's going to rank you higher. So I'm excited, Len to, to dig in deeper because it is like how getting more reviews, but to hear that there's more beyond just the reviews really can help these offices like get the best bang for their buck, help more practices. And I'm like, it used to be when I first started consulting when I used to tell offices get to like 100 Google reviews. It is now I'm pushing people like five, six, 700 reviews that you need to be getting ranked into. And I don't know if you're seeing like a cutoff line or if it matters on that. So I'm really excited to dive into like, what are the rankings? What are the pieces? Is there a difference? But I'm like now 100 reviews, when I look at somebody I'm like, hmm, like if there's another dental practice that has maybe 400, 500 new clients come on, the first thing I do is I go look them up to see how many reviews do you have? And I'm shocked at how many dental practices actually are not showing up when I Google their names and they're like, no, no, care, we're here. And I'm like, but if I'm a prospective new client that doesn't work in your practice and I don't see you all the time and I just tried to find you and I'm looking for you. How many patients who are not looking for you are not finding you as well. So yeah, take us away, and I'm super curious, very intrigued by this. It's fascinating. And I'll also say, because AI is new, feel like people got like a reset slate. Like, hey, you can actually get back into the game if you haven't been into the game, if you just start playing now. If you don't, I agree with you. I do think that you will unfortunately get obliterated without trying if you don't get into the game now. Dr. Len Tau (13:28) 100 % so and I couldn't agree with you more. So the best thing to do here is if you're listening to this, I want you to go to a Google search and I want you to type your practice name in. Okay, so that's the first thing to do. Right. Kiera Dent (13:39) and not in your office. Don't do it in your office. Go somewhere else. Like try it somewhere else. Dr. Len Tau (13:44) Right, well, and 100%, that's another thing is that if you're gonna look up your ranking specifically, you do not wanna do that from your office location, okay? Because you're not gonna get real results. You also wanna go into incognito mode or private browsing mode on your phone or your computer if you're doing that to check ranking. But this is not specifically about ranking. This is more about how you appear online. So go to Google and type in your practice name. Not your name unless it's the name of the practice, but your business name, okay? Kiera Dent (13:52) Yes. Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (14:13) and it doesn't have to be what's registered with the state board. It's how you, when you answer the phone, what you say, okay? Pennsylvania Center for Dental Excellence was my practice name, okay? So you wanna look yourself up. So these are some of the ranking factors that Google looks at. Obviously one of them is your total number of reviews you have. Definitely a ranking factor, but the total number has not been as important as some other factors as well. So. Kiera Dent (14:20) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (14:40) Average number of reviews in the industry right now is about 350. It used to be like 100 was the golden number. Now 350 is the average in the industry. So are you average? Are you below average or are above average? Okay, that's something to look at. The second ranking factor, which is even more important is the velocity of reviews. So how many reviews, how often you're getting them. Okay, so if you're getting once every two weeks, not enough. If you're getting them once every week, Kiera Dent (14:46) Yes. Dr. Len Tau (15:10) Not enough. You don't need them every single day, but two or three every single week is ideal. Okay, because you think two or three every week gives you eight to 15 a month times 12 months is 100 reviews a year, which is a nice number. Okay, so you have to have that velocity. All right. Third ranking factor is the total score, your average number of stars. So I would like you to be anywhere from 4.6 to five stars. Okay. I don't think you have to be only five stars. think there's a negativity related to that. If you're only five star reviews, but I also don't want you to below 4.5. Okay. ⁓ And if you're at 4.3, 4.2, or even 4.1, another better review or two, and you're to be in the threes. And that's really where you don't want to go. Cause you lose a huge percentage of patients who may come in if you're less than four stars. Okay. Another ranking factor. is the primary category. So how do you know your primary category? If you look under your Google, your name, will say right where the stars is, will say, hopefully dentist in your town or dentist in your county or dentist in your city. Okay. So your primary category should be dentist because we're a dental practice. Okay. If you're an oral surgeon, you may want it to be oral and actual facial surgeon. If you're an endodontist, want it to say endodontist. You don't want it to say dentist if you're a specialist. Okay. ⁓ That's a big ranking factor and I'll give you an example. I, ⁓ my wife had some plastic surgery over the last couple of years and we were referred to that doctor. So we didn't need to search for him. We were referred to him. went in, we liked him, we used his services. ⁓ And of course, being a plastic surgeon, I talked to him about reviews. He now uses BirdEye, but he had me speak in an event that he holds down here in Boca Raton. And I talked about this exactly. And I asked everybody, cause it was a small group. What is your primary category? And he goes, he said to me, literally, he says, I'm listed as a nurse practitioner. He wasn't listed as a plastic surgeon. He was listed as a nurse practitioner. So his categories were all messed up. So when you actually typed in plastic surgeon near me, he never showed up because his category was wrong. So primary category is a very important ranking factor as well. Now you also have to make sure your secondary categories are also. ⁓ Kiera Dent (17:15) No. Dr. Len Tau (17:35) ⁓ under ⁓ are there as well as under the proper categories. So secondary categories, if you're a dentist, dental clinic, teeth whitening services, denture care center, orthodontist, if you're doing aligners, if you're endo, you're doing root canals, you can have endodontist. If you do periodontist, can do periodontist. You want to make sure you have nine secondary categories. Okay, if you don't have them, you want to add them. Now, how do you add them? It's very easy. You go to Google using ChatGPT or anything and say, how do I add secondary categories to my Google business listing? Okay. It will tell you exactly like a recipe how to do it. You need to add those secondary categories. All right. And if you want help doing it, you can always reach out to me. The last ranking factor, which is really important is making sure that the practices name, address, and phone number is consistent. Okay. So just to be clear, most website companies do not do local SEO. They do website SEO, which is making sure the website is SEOed so the website ranks higher on the organic rankings. We're talking about getting the Google business page ranking higher, which the website companies are not focused on. So when it comes to the name, address and phone number, is it consistent? You have to be consistent. And this is a Google requirement. It is not a patient thing. It's not a me thing or you thing. It's a Google requirement that this data is consistent. So the name is obviously important. So if you have the and or the ampersand, you may find things inconsistent. When it comes to the address, if you have, you know, South State Streets, Unit 510, you can have South or S, you can have Street or ST, and then you can have Suite, Unit, Number, or STE. All these variations need to be consistent. So one of them has to be done and one and stuck with. And then if you are using a tracking number for whatever reason on your Google business listing, you may find your inconsistent there as well. So when you make everything consistent and you get a higher velocity of reviews, guess what happens over time? You rank higher on the maps. And when you rank higher on the maps, you get more visible for patients to find you. So that's where the secret sauce is. And Not that this is a sales pitch about BirdEye, but that's exactly what BirdEye does. BirdEye does those. We check all those boxes for you. And then what ends up happening is a practices get more reviews. But more importantly, when they ask patients how they find them, they're going to see that they found them because of their ranking online and the reviews drove them to the practice. So that's how this whole thing plays a role in getting a practice more visible and credible. Kiera Dent (20:06) Thank Wow. So I was over here like taking a lot of notes, which I really loved. I love the number, the 350 at the average, the velocity, like three to five per week you were saying. It doesn't need to be an everyday, but I do agree like them consistently coming through the total score, the 4.6 to five primary category, secondary category, making sure we have nine. And then you were talking about like the practice name, phone number, all of that has to be consistent. So the addresses have to be the same. And that's going to help you rank higher. Did I miss anything? Those are my notes, Len. And I'm just curious, like, did I catch them all? Because there was a lot of pieces to consider. And then I have some follow ups as well. So like, did I miss anything in that list? Dr. Len Tau (21:02) No, I think you got it all there. Kiera Dent (21:06) Okay, so hopefully that was a good recap for everybody. If you were listening, I tried to like summarize everything he said, because I really feel that those are super valuable pieces to know. Now, Len, there's a couple of things that happen and I'm very curious of what you've seen. Maybe you know, maybe you don't know. It's just a riff for me genuinely curious over here. Does it impact for the business to respond to the reviews? Because I know there was like a big misnomer out there like for a while, like you have to respond to every single review that helps you rank higher. What's the What's kind of the lay of the land right now responding to the reviews that come in? Dr. Len Tau (21:39) So there's been a big push over the years to respond to reviews. And there's also been those naysayers who don't want you to respond to reviews. So I want to make this very clear. When you respond to a review and you acknowledge them as a patient, you are technically violating HIPAA. Okay. Now by the letter of the law, if you do that, you violated HIPAA and can be in trouble. Now in all the years I've been doing this, I've only seen one Kiera Dent (21:49) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (22:08) example of a positive review being responded to and the dentist got in trouble. Okay. So if someone writes a review for you and it's five stars and you say, thank you so much for your feedback. We were glad you had a great experience in our practice. Okay. You technically violated HIPAA there because you acknowledged that they came into the practice. I don't think you'll ever run into any problems with that. I don't, I've never seen any instance when a, when a practice has got into trouble. But again, by the letter of the law, it's a violation. Here's where the person ran into a problem. Okay. So the review in question, the patient wrote, I'm so happy with my appearance after I went to so-and-so's dental office. I think they were in Texas. The dentist responded, we're so happy that you, thank you so much for your review. We're so happy that you loved our magic needles. Okay. So it, from what I understand is the patient had Botox or dermal fillers placed and that's what they call their magic needles. So the patient wrote, wrote a letter to the practice saying, I didn't appreciate you letting the world know that I had Botox done and asked for the review response to be taken down, which the dentist immediately did. Took it down and apologized, but it really pissed the patient off and the patient sued the dentist and won. Okay. Because the dentist went out of their way to Kiera Dent (23:08) Mm-hmm. Right. Dr. Len Tau (23:33) you know, release private information that wasn't supposed to be done. So in that case, you shouldn't be doing that. Okay. Now on the same note, I would be very careful responding. Kiera Dent (23:37) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (23:45) to a review that's left by a negative, a negative review that's written by a patient. I would be very careful responding publicly to that because it's very hard to respond without violating HIPAA. So a simple response like, we're sorry to hear about your experience. Please contact the office to discuss the concerns as we're unfortunately unable to comment due to HIPAA release privacy stuff. That's fine. But. Again, I just not sure it's the best thing to do. So you have to be careful with negative reviews. What it doesn't do is we really haven't found any relationship between responding and ranking. Okay, so you have to, I always leave it up to the people to respond. I like using AI to respond as well, because I think it comes up with HIPAA compliant and really good responses. ⁓ But you have to decide what you want to do for your own practice. Kiera Dent (24:16) Mm-hmm. Interesting. That's actually really helpful to know. ⁓ Okay, good feedback for people to ponder and decide what they want to do on. The second piece is some people lose their Google My Business and they're not able to be found. ⁓ And I don't know if you have reasons why. I don't know if it's from like a name change or it's inconsistent. So like a lot of offices have a lot of reviews, but when you go to search them, they're hidden on Google My Business. Like it will show up on the person's side, but nobody externally can find it. Do you have any ideas of like what causes that or what offices can do if they're struggling with that? Dr. Len Tau (25:11) So I want to clarify that what question you asked there. I'm sorry to ask a question when you asked the question was when you say that you're saying that when they search for their Google business listing, they can't find it or when someone is searching for the office, they're not visible on the maps. Kiera Dent (25:15) Hey, that's okay. So when they're searching, so if I just go into Google and I type in like my perfect smile, the website might link, but the Google My Business with all, and they might have like 150 Google reviews, like it might be, like they've got them all and the office can see it when they like log in as like, this is, you own this, but they've lost it and it's no longer visible publicly. Do you know what causes that or how they can get that back? It's okay if you don't, I'm just genuinely curious. Cause I know some offices struggle with this, especially with like name changes of practices. going through different ownerships. ⁓ Some of them have told me it's like when I changed the name of my practice, it no longer showed up. Like we have all these reviews, but we're not showing up. Do you know what causes that or how practices can get back being visible? Dr. Len Tau (26:02) Yep. Now that you asked it that way, so that usually means that your Google business listing has been suspended. And if you can't find it on search, but you see it, means it's suspended in most cases. Name changes, address changes, other things you do can cause it to be suspended. There are, if you look up on use chat GPT, ⁓ and say, why is, why can your Google business page be suspended? There is a list of different reasons why it can get suspended. ⁓ if you're getting reviews the wrong way is a big one. So, like you should not be incentivizing for reviews. And I'm talking about incentivizing the patients. You shouldn't be getting reviews in your physical office space because there's IP address conflicts and location services on the patient's phone. So if you're doing that, not only will you can potentially lose reviews, but you can't get it suspended, but you can look on. Kiera Dent (26:37) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (26:55) on chat GPT or Google and just say, what are the reasons that your business page can be suspended? And they're there. So usually you have to ⁓ re-approve it or re-verify that page. And there's certain things you do. You'll have to take a video of yourself in front of the practice, showing the address, showing the name of the business on the door. So there's things you will have to do to get it over to Google. So they'll re-verify you. And then once it happens, there's a good chance they'll unsuspend the listing. But that happens for that reason. Kiera Dent (27:24) Gotcha. Okay. That's super helpful because I know a few offices have struggled with that. So was just curious for that. All right. This has been so helpful to figure out rankings. It's been helpful to understand. ⁓ My last question as we wrap up today on reviews has been so helpful, Len, is how do offices go about like, what are your recommendations? Yes, bird eye, swell, podium. Like there's a lot of review in Weave. I do, I usually recommend using an external one outside of things. think that they like, if they're just, if that's what they do, they're going to be experts at it. But how can offices ethically and appropriately, like obviously great patient experience, but how do they increase these Google reviews? What are some of the best tactics you've seen to help these offices out? Dr. Len Tau (28:04) So being biased, I mean, I'm a true believer in BirdEye because we help with the reviews and the ranking part. ⁓ Swell, which is a great product. know the guys who swell really well. A lot of their doctors don't rank well because they don't focus on the listings part of it or the ranking part of it. ⁓ I'm not a fan of Wee from a review perspective because they swell BirdEye and Podium, make it very easy. Weave doesn't. It's just the way we do it with our three other products. ⁓ I always say this, you can get reviews any way you want. The most effective is gonna be use some software, simple as that. But it all starts with the practice and it all starts with, I like to create a reputation culture in the practice, which means you know that every time a patient comes in the practice, that they're going to be evaluating you and reviewing you potentially. And you've gotta be on your best behavior, you've gotta put a happy smile on your face, you gotta treat them like they're the... Kiera Dent (28:40) Mm-hmm. Dr. Len Tau (29:00) king of the world, okay? You gotta roll out the red carpet. And if you don't do that, they may write a bad review, okay? But if you don't create that reputation culture, I think it's gonna be hard to get the practice to really accelerate the reviews. So creating that reputation culture using great verbiage skills. I love calling it feedback, not a review. If you call it a review, it sounds like you're begging for it. ⁓ The feedback conversation is much more comfortable to have. So, you know, it's an interesting situation, but if you don't ask, you don't get. So you've got to ask. I think if you ask and you combine it with a really good software, you'll get a really good number of reviews. If you don't ask, you don't get. It's that simple. Kiera Dent (29:30) Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ well, that was so great. I appreciate this so much. And it's fun to hear about how AI is helping. It's fun to hear about how you still have to be great on Google. So ⁓ I just appreciate you. I appreciate you being here. I appreciate the knowledge you shared. appreciate for offices. I hope they take action and Len any last thoughts, how people can connect with you if they want more help on this. know ⁓ like truly in my opinion, this is the simplest marketing. Everybody wants to like sexy magic pill of marketing. And I'm like, no, it's like really great experience. Ask for the reviews, ask for the feedback. like rank so that way people can find you I've had offices that had like three four or five new patients and they're like I need this marketing I need all these things which I'm not here to say not to do it but I will say great reviews will boost you very quickly so Len any last thoughts you've got how people can connect with you because it's been truly just an incredible episode today Dr. Len Tau (30:26) So ⁓ I'm around the country a lot. So you can always connect with me in person if I'm at some of these events. If you wanna come to Supercharge, you can connect me there. SuperchargeYourDentalPractice.com You can use the code RAVING to save $100 on registration. ⁓ We also have some scholarships available. So if you do wanna come, you can reach out to me personally. So ⁓ my cell phone's all over the internet. The easiest way, if you have any questions, you want advice, you want help, I'm the guy to reach out to. My phone number is 215. Kiera Dent (30:40) Awesome. Dr. Len Tau (30:55) 292-2100. And my best email is Len, L-E-N, at drlentau.com, which is D-R-L-E-N-T-A-U.com. And you can email me, you can text me, you can call me, tell me you heard about me here and you need some advice. I'm more than happy to offer it to you. I do it all the time. ⁓ I love when people reach out to me because they know I'm an expert. So I do it kind of as a favor to people. ⁓ But no, you reach out to me, I'm happy to give advice. Kiera Dent (31:23) amazing. Len, thank you so much for being on the podcast. I'm super excited for Supercharge 2025 and especially 2026. So everybody snag that. And truly, I hope you take action from today's podcast. This is easy ways for you to boost your marketing, be found and seen online. And Len, thank you for joining me today. I truly, truly appreciate you. Dr. Len Tau (31:41) Thank you for having me, Kiera, I appreciate it. Kiera Dent (31:43) Of course. And for all of you listening, thank you for listening and I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Podcast.
Send us a textDo you ever catch yourself thinking, “I should've seen the signs of abuse”? If you've been replaying your past and blaming yourself for not noticing the red flags, this episode will bring you relief and clarity. The truth is, you couldn't have known—because abusers hide the warning signs on purpose.In this episode of Be A Better You Podcast, host and subconscious reprogramming expert Allison K. Dagney explains why survivors of emotional abuse aren't meant to spot the red flags early, how abusers use love bombing and manipulation to keep you from recognizing the truth, and why your kindness, trust, and hope are not flaws—they were exploited.You'll hear trauma-informed insights, relatable real-life examples, and powerful mindset shifts to help you release the shame and stop asking yourself “why didn't I know better?” Instead, you'll learn how to reframe the belief that you missed the signs and start rebuilding trust in yourself.If you've ever Googled: how to stop blaming myself for abuse, why I didn't see the red flags, signs of emotional abuse I missed, why I stayed so long, or he seemed so perfect at first, this episode is for you.Support the showTo learn more about my Programs visit the websitewww.radiatenrise.com Email: Allison@radiatenrise.comFree 30 Min Root Cause Call Join Radiate and Rise Together - Survivor Healing Community for Women To send a DM, visit Allison's profiles on Instagram and Facebookhttps://www.instagram.com/allisonkdagney/https://www.facebook.com/allisonkdagney/*Formerly (The Emotional Abuse Recovery Podcast)
Prince William and Princess Catherine led tributes on the third anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death, while Prince Harry paid his respects at St George's Chapel after flying in from California. William now faces a rare four days of consecutive public duties, while Harry begins a solo four-day visit focused on youth projects. Speculation continues over whether the King will make time to see his youngest son. Meanwhile, new stats show Harry is the most Googled royal, Archie is spotted at an expensive “British” soccer camp in California, and Catherine quietly steals the spotlight with a fresh new hairstyle at the Women's Rugby World Cup.
The skilled trades are facing a demographic cliff. The reality is that far fewer people are entering the trades than leaving, creating a widening gap that threatens the stability of critical infrastructure across the U.S. At the same time, younger generations are bringing different expectations around work-life balance, culture, and purpose. As a result, service leaders are rethinking what it means to manage technicians—not just as employees, but as people and families depending on the trade for a livelihood.So how do you recruit, retain, and grow the next generation of HVAC talent in an industry at a crossroads?On this episode of Straight Outta Crumpton, host Greg Crumpton sits down with Brad Glenn, Service Manager at Piedmont Service Group, to explore the human side of HVAC leadership. Together, they dive into building culture, balancing generational shifts in the workforce, and passing down technical knowledge that can't be Googled.Highlights from the conversation…Culture as strategy: Why Piedmont invests in chaplains, culture coaches, and benefits to keep employees supported both inside and outside of work.Generational differences: How managing five generations in the workforce requires different communication styles and an emphasis on work-life balance.Knowledge transfer: The urgent need to pass along hands-on skills and “tribal knowledge” before veteran technicians retire.Brad Glenn is a seasoned HVAC professional with nearly three decades of experience spanning service, installation, troubleshooting, and project management. He has successfully grown service departments, including building one team from two technicians to more than ten, and has held leadership roles at Comfort Systems USA, AC Corporation, and now Piedmont Service Group. Known for empowering technicians and fostering strong service culture, Glenn combines deep technical expertise with proven management and team-building skills.
We live in a world where every fact is at our fingertips, but what about the questions no search engine can resolve—What makes a good mother? What does the person next to me fear the most? Author Anna Mitchael joins Ginny to share insights from her book They Will Tell You The World Is Yours, a collection of short, powerful vignettes that push back on the cultural noise of “they say.” Together they explore why curiosity flourishes outdoors, how simple road trips can reshape a family, and what happens when you pause before accepting the scripts the world hands you. This episode invites you to resist the pressure to constantly perform, produce, and conform—and instead make small rebellions that open up bigger life. Through stories of aging, comparison, cubicles, canyons, and creativity, Anna and Ginny show how the questions that matter most can't be Googled but must be lived. Explore more of Anna's work here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below: Select Quote: Head to www.selectquote.com/1000hours to learn more. BetterHelp: Visit www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns NIV Application Bible - visit www.NIVapplicationbible.com if you're looking to grow in your understanding of Scripture and make it real in your daily life. Capstone Wellness - For over 24 years, Capstone has helped thousands of families on their path to healing. Learn more at capstonewellness.com/1000hours NurtureLife - Head to NurtureLife.com/1000HOURS55 and use code 1000HOURS55 for 55% off your first order PLUS free shipping. Wayfair - Get organized, refreshed, and back to routine for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. Earthley - Use the code 1000hours to get 10% off your next purchase at www.earthley.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Being a trusted adviser to our affluent clients for over two decades, Providend celebrates its 24th birthday this year, a milestone that reminds us just how far we've come!In this special Money Wisdom episode, we sat down with three of our leaders: Christopher Tan (Group CEO), Moon Shary (Group COO & Executive Director), and Evelyn Goh (Deputy CEO & Chief Advisory Officer), to answer some of the most frequently asked (and Googled) questions about Providend.From “Where is Providend located?” and “When did Providend start?” to broader questions such as “How is Providend still around?” and “Why is Providend so expensive?”, no topic was avoided. They also addressed questions on our fee structure, whether changes are anticipated, and the often-asked succession question: “Who will be Providend's next CEO, COO, and Deputy CEO?”Candid, light-hearted, and filled with insights, this episode is a rare behind-the-scenes look at what makes Providend who we are today, how far we've come in our journey, and our vision for the future.As the leading fee-only wealth advisory firm in Asia, we celebrate this milestone with heartfelt gratitude to our clients for their trust and to our colleagues (our fellow bearies) for their dedication. Together, you have made Providend who we are today — a light in the financial world.Music courtesy of ItsWatR.The host of this episode, Christopher Tan, is Chief Executive Officer of Providend, Singapore's first fee-only wealth advisory firm and author of the book “Money Wisdom: Simple Truths for Financial Wellness”.The full list of Providend's Money Wisdom podcast episodes from Season 4 can be found here.Did you know that our Providend's Money Wisdom podcast is now available in video format on YouTube? Follow us on our YouTube channel for new episode on Thursday at 8pm.Mentioned in this episode:Register for Our Providend's Heritage Webinar Today!Providend is hosting an exclusive webinar where we'll unpack what fee-only wealth advisory really means, why we chose this model when we started 24 years ago, and how to decide which advisory approach best suits your needs. It's happening on 11 September, and the best part—it's completely free! You'll also get the chance to ask your questions live, directly to our CEO, Christopher Tan. Spots are limited, so don't wait—click the link here to register today: https://events.zoom.us/ev/AthVd9US3ZeC0TeOmmhndZVvdpL27JExtKSgTAZDyhEtOU2BQ2gr~AnV4QNf3iZChr_svSIpolYwKCi9foPZWqr9IR7PvmoBYEuTwG3GbqfsuTA We can't wait to see you there!Get Our Money Wisdom II Book Today!Some long-time listeners might know that the inspiration behind this entire podcast was our CEO, Chris's book. We're proud to announce that we have launched our second edition of the book titled Money Wisdom II: More Simple Truths for Financial Wellness. If you are interested in getting your very own copy, please check out the link here: https://providend.com/publications/#order-form
For many investors, they start their journey by connecting with a real estate agent who doesn't match their values or understand their goals. In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, property management growth expert Jason Hull sits down with Andrew Rhatigan from Rhatigan Real Estate to go deep into the intersection of strategy and psychology and property investment, from navigating relocations and high-value deals to uncovering the mindset shifts that drive success in real estate. You'll Learn [04:21] Using Psychology to Figure out Investors' Motivations [09:07] The New Model of Selling: Empathy [13:16] The Property Management Industry in Ireland [21:09] Saving Investors 80 Hours Per Month and Retaining Value Quotables “Most people's end goal is not to have rental property. There's a reason why.” “If the investment vehicle isn't going to help them achieve their why or their purpose, then it's probably not a good idea.” “I think that's really the crux of actual, valuable, true selling. It's not about trying to force people or convince people to buy a product or a service or to get into something. It's about figuring out, do they even need what maybe I could offer them?” Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive Transcript Andrew Rhatigan (00:00) instead of just being sold something for the sake of transacting, Jason Hull (00:00) And instead of just being sold something for the sake of transacting, Andrew Rhatigan (00:03) they've been guided to something that's going to suit their risk tolerance, their life now, and also the future if they chose to rent it in time to come. Jason Hull (00:03) they've been guided to something that's gonna suit their risk tolerance, their life now, and also the future if they chose to invest in the All right, I am Jason Hull, the founder and CEO of DoorGrow, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. For over a decade and a half, we have brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we have spoken to thousands of property management business owners, coached, consulted, and cleaned up hundreds of businesses, helping them add doors, improve pricing, increase profit, simplify operations, and build and replace teams. We are like bar rescue for property managers. In fact, we have cleaned up and rebranded over 300 businesses and we run the leading property management mastermind with more video testimonials and reviews than any other coach or consultant in the industry. At DoorGrow, we believe that good property managers can change the world and that property management is the ultimate high trust gateway to real estate deals, relationships, and residual income. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses, we want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now, let's get into the show. And today, my guest is Andrew Rhatigan Welcome, Andrew. Andrew Rhatigan (01:24) Pleasure to be here, thanks for having us. Jason Hull (01:26) It's good to have you. So Andrew, we're going to go deep into the intersection of strategy and psychology and property investment from navigating relocations and high value deals to uncovering the mindset shifts that drive success in real estate and business and learn how your innovative approach helps investors save over 80 hours a month and retain up to 10 % more value in their property transactions. All right, so Hopefully that's got some people ears perked up and their attention peaked and they're interested. So Andrew, give us a little background on you and how you kind of got into business and entrepreneurism and started into real estate investing and all of this stuff. Andrew Rhatigan (02:09) So firstly, great to be here. And even from your introduction, it made me want to get involved in what you're doing. So it was a fabulous insight into the value you drive for your clients and potential clientele. So essentially, I suppose I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit and by virtue of life's experience, I've gone from every different avenue. And I suppose the backdrop to my life was that my family are and were in property in a very variety of ways. My late father was a developer and I have other family members that are still in development to this day. And I suppose as I grew up, I was always interested in people and sales, but I ran away a little bit from the property side of things to go forge my own path and explore what I felt, you know, my version of winning was. And I originally studied psychology because at the time I thought it would sound good at a dinner party. I'm happy to say that now at the age of 40, that at the age of 18, guess what? Mic drop. I had no idea what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. So I studied what I thought would sound good at a party. Jason Hull (02:47) explore what I felt my version of winning was. And I originally studied psychology because at the time I thought it would sound good at a dinner party. I'm happy to say that now at the age of 40, that at the age of 18, guess what? Mic drop. I had no idea what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. So I studied what I thought would sound good at a party. Andrew Rhatigan (03:06) But how it benefited me was that I understood more about myself, my inner workings, my drivers. And as I grew, I had different businesses throughout my life, but it all centered around two things, sales and people. And I suppose that was built on a foundation of authenticity, trust, and really seeking to build relationships for the long term rather than transactions. And I was in property, been in property for the last 10 years. And when COVID hit, I saw an opportunity to build a business. Jason Hull (03:07) But how it benefited me was that I understood more about myself, my inner workings, my drivers. And as I grew, I had different businesses throughout my life, but it all centered around two things, sales and people. And I thought that was built on a foundation of authenticity, trust, and really seeking to build relationships for the long term rather than transactions. And I was in property, been in property for the last 10 years. And when COVID hit, I saw an opportunity to build a business based on my Andrew Rhatigan (03:36) based on my personality Jason Hull (03:37) personality type and a niche in the market that was booking the trend of generic real estate agency. So as opposed to simply transacting, charging a simple fee and of rowing in with the rest of the property agency around the world, I decided to create a consultative business that was client first. I advocate for clients and independent. And I suppose I add that layer of Andrew Rhatigan (03:37) type and a niche in the market that was booking the trend of generic real estate agency. So as opposed to simply transacting, charging a simple fee and kind of rowing in with the rest of property agency around the world, I decided to create a consultative business that was client first. I advocate for clients. I'm independent. And I suppose I add that layer of Almost sports management to it, you know, so a big part of what we do is we were a fixer for a lot of our clients that come to us with almost a plastic bag full of a jumbled mixture of receipts at account season. And they come to us with a problem or an idea, and then they ask us to fix it or find a solution. And essentially we've become that advisor or that advocate for people who are looking to either put their money to work or who are looking to source a property in Ireland as a base for an investment or for supporting family or themselves going forward. Jason Hull (04:02) almost sports management to it. know, so a big part of what we do is we're a fixer for a lot of our clients that come to us with almost a plastic bag full of a jumbled mixture of receipts at account season. And they come to us with a problem or an idea and then they ask us to fix it or find a solution. And essentially we've become that advisor or that advocate for people who are looking to either put their money to work or who are looking to source a property in Ireland as a base for an investment or for supporting family or themselves going forward. Well, let's get into the topic at hand then so how How have you sort of applied this psychology background that sounded cool at a party You know to you know what you're doing now with real estate investing Andrew Rhatigan (04:46) I think the best way to describe it is life. You'll often have that you have a different, let's say a room of people at a variety of age brackets and they all have a different view on the world by virtue of what they've experienced, the way they see the world now and obviously their disposition to what they want from life. So I suppose what we do when we're assessing a potential client is instead of me taking Jason's budget and just finding something for the sake of it, I front load the conversation by asking what is it Jason wants from life? Jason Hull (04:58) I've decided. So I suppose what we do... of me taking Jason's budget and just finding something for the sake of it, I front load the conversation by asking what is it Jason wants from life? Andrew Rhatigan (05:15) What is his appetite to risk? What does he think he wants in a property? And what would that mean if we were to work through that hypothetical? And I suppose what I found quite unique is the way we work with people is I'm quite challenging to what people want to do because I'm asking the question before they've had to buy it because Jason Hull (05:15) What is his appetite to risk? What does he think he wants in a property? And what would that mean if we were to work through that hypothetical? And what I found quite unique is the way we work with people is I'm quite challenging what people want to do because I'm asking the question before they're fired. ⁓ Andrew Rhatigan (05:32) that advisory piece needs to come into play. So I'm quite like an parent. So if Jason said, let's say if we looked at it from a car point of view, I need a two door sports car that goes from zero to one hundred. Jason Hull (05:33) advisory piece needs to commit to play. So I'm like a parent. So if Jason said, let's say if we looked at it from a cardboard view, I needed two doors sports card that goes from zero to 100, know, lickety split. I just wanted because I wanted. And I said, okay, but do you have, and I know each other before, do you have dogs? Do you like to play them out a lot? Do you have kids? Do you play golf? Right. asking those questions. Andrew Rhatigan (05:43) You know, lickety split and I just wanted because I want it. And I say, okay, you know, do you have, and I know we chatted before it. Do you have dogs? Do you like to take them out a lot? Do you have kids? Do you play golf? Am I asking those questions? We're then essentially creating a foundation where I've challenged someone before they've spent money at that level to really understand what their motivations are. So property, when we're working on it, it's probably 90 % mental and then 10 % execution. Jason Hull (05:56) We're then essentially creating a foundation for our challenge, some before they spent money at that level to really understand what their motivations are. So property, what we're working on is probably 90 % mental and then 10 % execution. Yeah, got it. So I love that you're kind of asking them what they want out of life first, because I mean, most people's end goal is not to have rental property. There's a reason why behind, you know, these decisions and why they have these things. And if the investment vehicle isn't gonna help them achieve their why or their purpose, then it's probably not a good idea. So, cool. So this is kind of how you start with people. Andrew Rhatigan (06:31) Yeah, people are paying for it right now. Yeah. Jason Hull (06:35) So then what do feel like would be the next step? Andrew Rhatigan (06:38) So essentially when someone has either referred to us or reaches out to us through our various websites or offerings, a big part of what I try and understand is someone's potential profile. So I could have someone that's abroad and let's say they've had a windfall from maybe a bereavement or a financial award. There may be something in that where they maybe need an hour of my time so I can guide them through why they shouldn't be making an investment, especially in the Irish market, because it is quite contentious. Supply is a challenge. Jason Hull (06:55) something especially in the Irish market because it is quite contentious, supply is a challenge. ⁓ Andrew Rhatigan (07:06) And when people are looking at Ireland from an international stage, they probably don't understand the nuances of it. But a big part of what I lean into with people is I will often tell people no, because I'm coming from a place that I want to make them, I want them to go away from meeting us and having that conversation, knowing that we've given the best advice for what they want from life rather than a paint by numbers that everyone can do. Jason Hull (07:09) they probably don't understand the nuances of it. But a big part of what I lean into with people is I will often tell people no, because I'm coming from a place that I want to make them, I want them to go away from meeting us and having that conversation knowing that we've given the best advice for what they want from life rather than a paint by numbers that everyone can do. It's everyone's version. I go back to everyone, version of winning is different. And I originally got it from Gary Vaynerchuk about 10 years ago, which was Andrew Rhatigan (07:29) because everyone's version, I go back to everyone's version of winning is different and I originally got it from Gary Vaynerchuk about 10 years ago, which was one person wants to work a 30 hour work week, they want to play video games at night and take two holidays a year. Another person wants to have every door in an apartment block and they want to build a special purpose vehicle and build for the next three to five generations, let's say. What drives both of those is inherently different. There's only one Jeff Bezos for a reason. Jason Hull (07:38) One person wants to work a 30 hour work week, they want to play video games at night and take two holidays a year. Another person wants to have every door in the apartment block and they want to build a special purpose vehicle and build for the next three to five generations, let's say. What drives both of those is inherently different. There's no jet-flazed off for a reason. So when we're working with people or potentially working with people, we really want to understand what it is they want. So by asking key questions, we understand... Andrew Rhatigan (07:58) So when we're working with people or potentially working with people, we really want to understand what it is they want. So by asking key questions, we understand their background, their motivators, their appetite to risk their life cycle as well. Because if someone makes a lot of money, they maybe want to put it to work rather than leave it in a bank. But if someone is not equipped to have, I suppose, the wherewithal to understand when you're putting money into, into real estate, what the implications are, they maybe need someone to tell them not to do it. Jason Hull (08:06) their background, their motivators, their appetite to risk, their life cycle as well, because if someone makes a lot of money, they maybe want to put it to work rather than leave it in the bank. But if someone is not equipped to have, I suppose, the wherewithal to understand when you're putting money into real estate, what the implications are, they maybe need someone to tell them not to do it, to put the money somewhere safe and to take a percentage of it and maybe go into some sort of a fractional ownership scheme. Andrew Rhatigan (08:26) to put the money somewhere safe and to take a percentage of it and maybe go into some sort of a fractional ownership scheme. So someone who may be able to invest in a larger fund that they can weather the cost and they get a more nominal return in the long term. So I suppose a big part of how I look at it is giving people the advice they need. And then I also have a lot of people who are looking at Ireland now as a place to build a lifestyle. So we have a lot of people who are international looking at Ireland because of the lifestyle, the language and the location. Jason Hull (08:32) So somebody may be able to invest in a larger fund that they could weather the cost and they get more normal return in long term. So I suppose a big part of how I look at it is giving people the advice they need. And then I also have a lot of people who are looking at Ireland now as a place to build a lifestyle. So we have a lot of people who are international looking at Ireland because of the lifestyle, the language and the location. Andrew Rhatigan (08:56) So lifestyle because it's quite a relaxed setting, language because English is the first language Jason Hull (08:56) So lifestyle because it's quite a relaxed selling language because English is the first language. Andrew Rhatigan (09:01) and location being a jumping off point for the rest of Europe. So we see a lot of ⁓ entrepreneurs, expats, musicians, sports people who are looking at Ireland as a base even for themselves from a personal perspective as well. Jason Hull (09:01) and location being a jumping-on point for the rest of Europe. So we see a lot of entrepreneurs, ec-pats, musicians, people who are looking at Ireland as a face, even from themselves from a personal perspective as well. Yeah, I like it. Well, I love what you said about the sales process, that you're not trying to shove them or push them into a particular vehicle. You're trying to figure out what would be best for them. And I think that's really the crux of actual valuable, true selling. It's not about trying to force people or convince people to buy a product or a service or to get into something. It's about figuring out, do they even need what maybe I could offer them? And if they do need it, do they want it from me? Instead of trying to push them. And I think there's been a huge shift I've noticed in the last, I guess since COVID, we're kind of in this post trust era. Everybody got kind of burned by COVID because they realized, hey, we were kind of all duped and tricked to some degree. then we're like, especially in the States here in the U.S., we're figuring out, well, voting sort of been fake and food's been fake and everything politically we're lied to and medical stuff is all this stuff is coming out as fake. And right now it seems like now the stuff talked about on the news is the weather's fake. so. We're like, we feel so manipulated and we feel like we've been lied to in so many ways that trust is at this all time low. The one thing that I've noticed that people trust though, is they trust themselves. And so I think that there's a new model of selling that's really come about as a result of this. If you're trying to be effective and that's being more empathetic, it's allowing them to figure out what they want and what they need rather than just pitching and pushing. like the old school strategies that you've gotten from all these sales gurus and trainers that have existed for the last decade or two. Andrew Rhatigan (10:51) Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And I think another side of it when you're in property or real estate is you are already a level below general viewpoints on selling because I was in the car business and in the car business, people are anxious. They're wondering if they're going to be sold something that doesn't suit. Are you telling them the truth? And I suppose some great lessons I learned from a wonderful book by Chris Voss called Never Split the Difference. I'm sure anyone in properties read it or listen to it is Jason Hull (11:04) anxious. I'm telling them the truth. And I suppose some great lessons I learned from a wonderful book by Chris Voss called Never Split the Difference. I hear anyone in properties register or listen to it. Andrew Rhatigan (11:17) I really lean into all the fears that people have and I don't use them as a tool to sell them. I use them as a tool to say, look, I know what you're thinking. And, you know, a real estate agent is going to sell you any deal under the sun just to get a deal. So I suppose how I actually booked the trend of that, Jason Hull (11:17) I really lean into all the fears that people have and I don't use them as a tool to sell them. I use them as a tool to say, look, I know what you're thinking. then, know, I read a sad agent just going to sell you any deal under the sun just to get a deal. So I suppose how I actually booked the trend of that. Andrew Rhatigan (11:33) the way we price things and our fee is actually you pay us upfront. And the reason you do that is it turns the volume down on the opinions of others around you. rather than me doing a deal for a potentially high fee, Jason Hull (11:34) the way we price things that our fee is actually you pay us upfront. And the reason you do that is it turns the volume down on the opinions of others around you. So rather than me doing a deal for a potentially high fee and frantically searching for something to shoehorn you into, I understand what your needs are. We price the package up from day one. It's fixed and you either can pay it all upfront or pay it in monthly installments. But two things that does, it enables. Andrew Rhatigan (11:45) and frantically searching for something to shoehorn you into. I understand what your needs are. We price a package from day one. It's fixed and you either can pay it all upfront or pay it in monthly installments. two things that does, it enables and empowers me to say, look, Jason, we found you three deals. I actually don't like two of them because they don't make sense. One here is interesting, but I don't think it's for you just yet. There's no incentive for me not to put you into it. But by paying me upfront, Jason Hull (12:01) Yeah Andrew Rhatigan (12:13) you're paying me to tell you no. And I suppose I'm trying to really lean into that trust factor with people, which is trust me enough to pay me, but then you're going to benefit because I'm going to see you right rather than see you do a deal for the sake of closing a fee and a hope for moving on and you lose my number. No interest. I prefer long-term relationships. And I would prefer, especially in this world now, I mean, if you gave me what 13 hours, I could be sitting in that cool room of yours talking to you. So the world is so small that Jason Hull (12:29) No interest. prefer long-term relationships and I would prefer, especially in this world now, mean, if you gave me what, 13 hours, I could be sitting in that cool room of yours talking to the world is so small, Andrew Rhatigan (12:42) build a relationship for the long term. And it means that it then lives beyond our interaction for other people to be referred to, to enjoy, to get some value from. And I love that. It just goes back to the old school way of building trust. Jason Hull (12:43) but build a relationship for the long-term. And it means that it then lives beyond our interaction for other people to be referred to, to enjoy, to get some value from. And I love that. It just goes back to the old school way of building trust. Yeah, I love it. I think that's a unique model to have them pay you upfront. then you said it turns down the volume around you. Yeah, because the challenge is a lot of people's first starting point, they will go to real estate agents, which they have a very strong incentive to get a commission out of any sort of investment or real estate deal. And they're usually not really well versed in giving you good investment advice anyway, and let alone having an incentive to do so. And so this is why a lot of Smart investors will actually usually start by talking to a property manager first, like what properties, what areas are good to have, what sort of property would be a good investment, because they're actually living in it, you know, they're actually living with that property and managing it, making sure that it can cash flow and is effective. And they're doing this for lots of different properties in that market. And so finding a good property manager is a resource. With the stuff that you do over there in Ireland, property manager's piece of the puzzle. Andrew Rhatigan (13:59) Yes, so I think we're probably in the grand scheme of how Ireland works. We're probably about 15 to 20 years behind the states in a number of ways. So I suppose you're still going to have a mixture of localized property managers who are very, you know, it's a hobbyist, it's a lifestyle piece where they get, let's say up to maybe 80 to a hundred doors and they can manage it themselves with a certain level of admin, but it becomes more of a practical lifestyle piece for them. But I suppose the other side of it is Jason Hull (14:25) I suppose the other side of it is you can then suddenly become a busy fool and you're not able to continue building relationships with people. Servicing clients becomes a challenge. So we're seeing a layer of both technology and I suppose a need for those who want to support larger funds. you have a lot of the investment funds coming in from all over the world and they're looking at Ireland or they're working at Ireland as a good base to be able to buy or build. Andrew Rhatigan (14:27) you can then suddenly become a busy fool and you're not able to continue building relationships with people. ⁓ Servicing clients becomes a challenge. So we are seeing a layer of both technology and I suppose a need for those who want to support larger funds. So you have a lot of the I-Res, know, the investment funds coming in from all over the world and they're looking at Ireland or they were looking at Ireland as a good base to be able to buy or build purpose-built Jason Hull (14:52) purpose-built rental facilities. So when you look at Ireland Andrew Rhatigan (14:52) rental facilities. So when you look at Ireland now, Jason Hull (14:56) now, you are seeing a prominence of people seeing value in having that layered system of a service you can log an issue in, a ⁓ one-tier contact system where you don't have to forget that Mary looks after accounts, but she doesn't look after facilities, and John looks after X and not Y. And I think people are looking Andrew Rhatigan (14:56) you are seeing a prominence of people seeing value in having that layered system of, know, a service you can log an issue with. I suppose a one tier contact system where you don't have to forget that Mary looks after accounts, but she doesn't look after facilities and John looks after X and not Y. And I think people are looking at that as an opportunity to streamline a service for people. But I suppose to be honest with you as well, the challenge for us historically is Jason Hull (15:17) to streamline the service for people. And I suppose to be honest with you as well, the challenge for us historically is those who want property managed, understanding the value involved and having someone, like you said, who does it every day, knows exactly how to deal with people, who understand the nuances of it, and paying them to do so on an ongoing basis so they can outsource that whole process and that support going forward. Got it. All right, we're gonna have a quick word from our sponsor, which is Blanket. So Blanket, Andrew Rhatigan (15:24) those who want property managed understanding the value involved in having someone like you said, who does it every day, who knows exactly how to deal with people, who understands the nuances of it and paying them to do so on an ongoing basis so they can outsource that thought process and that support going forward. 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And I suppose we've got obviously a very long standing historic and positive relationship with the states generally by virtue of, I suppose, our connections with the United States and that history that we have obviously going over there for a long time. But I suppose what's happening now in the last two decades is we have a lot of companies that have really shown their muster. We've had a lot of Jason Hull (16:49) street. But I suppose what's happening now in last two decades is we have a lot of companies that have really shown their muster. We've had a lot of growth from an economic perspective and we have companies and people that are probably making the most money they've ever made and they're going to put it to work. I suppose another challenge or I see challenges as opportunities as well is the Irish market at the moment is in dire need of more supply and we have some stringent planning laws that are going through. Andrew Rhatigan (16:58) growth from an economic perspective. And we have companies and people that are probably making the most money they've ever made and they're looking to put it to work. But I suppose another challenge or I see challenges as opportunities as well is the Irish market at the moment is in in dire need of more supply. And we have some stringent planning laws that are going through. I suppose that they're going through the ringer at the moment because you have developers who want to build and they want to grow. Jason Hull (17:20) I suppose that they're going through the ringer at the moment because you have to have developers who want to build and they want to grow and they've been stymied by a system that it can be clunky and quite slow. But I suppose when I look at Ireland from the perspective of an international platform, it's very easy to overlook everything we have that we don't have extreme heat, don't have extreme... Andrew Rhatigan (17:26) and they've been stymied by a system that it can be clunky and quite slow. But I suppose when I look at Ireland from the perspective of an international platform, it's very easy to overlook everything we have that we don't have extreme heat. We don't have extreme climate events. I suppose when it comes to being central, a lot of companies have chosen Ireland because it's a good HQ for their employee base. You're going to get great talent, but you can also travel around Europe. But when people look at Ireland from an international point of view, we still have so much land. Jason Hull (17:40) I think there is scope in the future to take a longer term view as to what Ireland could become from a development point of view. I think internationally there's a lot of points we could take from Andrew Rhatigan (17:55) that is undeveloped, that I think there is scope in the future to take a longer term view as to what Ireland could become from a development point of view. And I think internationally, there's a lot of points we could take from clever use of building, repurposing commercial developments, repurposing commercial buildings into residential, and also taking a view to exponential growth of these large companies that will need somewhere to grow and adapt and obviously as the population grows. Jason Hull (18:08) Clever use of building, repurposing commercial developments, repurposing commercial buildings into residential and also taking a view to exponential growth of these large companies that will need somewhere to grow and adapt and obviously if the population grows. But I think the opportunity for international people is to take a view as to unique building practices, potentially the next iteration of life at let's say data centers. At the moment they're in flux in Ireland, but I also Andrew Rhatigan (18:23) But I think the opportunity for international people is to take a view as to unique building practices, potentially the next iteration of the likes of let's say data centers. At the moment they're in flux in Ireland, but I also think that people Jason Hull (18:38) think that people can sometimes be overwhelmed by the concept of the perceived challenges and not seek out the unique opportunities. It's often like many business people who set up in the recession would say that was the best time to set up because it gave them the most opportunity. Andrew Rhatigan (18:38) can sometimes be overwhelmed by the concept of the perceived challenges and not seek out the unique opportunities. And it's often like many business people who set up in the recession would say that was the best time to set up because it gave them the most opportunity. I think this unique position Ireland is in is we have all this space, we haven't used it, building is in flux, but I do think if someone came in with a long term view, there is great scope for growth, but it's just about taking an outside eye and having the patience and the determination to see it through. Jason Hull (18:53) I think this unique position our own disease we have all this space we haven't used it building is in flux but I do think if someone came in with a long-term view there is great scope for growth but it's just about taking an outside eye and having the patience and the determination to see it through. Okay, so maybe some listening will have that long-term vision. there's no extreme client, good talent, people speak English there, which is great for us Americans, right? Europe travel hub, there's plenty of undeveloped land, so there's investment opportunities and maybe some potential data centers being built there, stuff like this. So it sounds like there's a lot of good things that could be potentially happening in Ireland. So this is a really dumb random question, but how do the Irish in Ireland view the state celebrating St. Patrick's Day and kiss me I'm Irish and drinking green beer and all that? Andrew Rhatigan (19:48) Well, I can, I can only speak for myself and those I know. I suppose the, one of the things that's very profound as an Irish person is you can overlook everything we have when you're here all the time. So the exact example, let's say someone who lives in New York, Times Square is just there and they just assume it's, always going to be there. The, know, if you're in Paris, the Eiffel Tower, et cetera. When you think of the impact and the relationships Ireland has with so many countries, much like the States, it can actually Jason Hull (20:14) it can actually, it puts manners on you quite quickly when you take a good grant because you realise... Andrew Rhatigan (20:14) It puts manners on you quite quickly when you take it for granted, because you realize that this large country that isn't Ireland, that doesn't have to love us the way it does, or doesn't have to embrace it the way it does, I suppose, engineers a wonderful experience for people to appreciate all things Irish, whether that be the connection to Ireland, the appreciation of having been here on holidays. And I suppose one of the things that is amazing every year is seeing that, I suppose, collection of nations that come together for a day that Jason Hull (20:19) that isn't Ireland, that doesn't have to lovus the way it does, or doesn't have to embrace it the way it does, really, I suppose, engineers a wonderful experience for people to appreciate all the things Irish, whether that be the connection to Ireland, the appreciation of having been here on holidays. And I suppose one of the things that is amazing every year is seeing that, I suppose, collection of nations that come together for a day that oftentimes people might overlook in general terms by virtue of holidays. But I think probably what it stands for is more that Andrew Rhatigan (20:42) Oftentimes people might overlook in general terms by virtue of holidays, but I think it's probably what it stands for is more that camaraderie openness. You know, Ireland has changed a lot in the last number of years. ⁓ And I suppose there is like everything there's always going to be the cheesy factor of people who, you know, do the kiss me I'm Irish and whatever else. But I would rather people embrace what it is we are as a very small country and they appreciate that. Like that's that's a phenomenal thing to me. And the fact that it just continues to grow each year and it's still quite amazing. Jason Hull (20:49) I mean it's a popular thing. We wear green just to celebrate your country. You know, really kind of. So, help me understand this idea of this innovative approach that's saving investors 80 hours a month and retaining 10 % or more value in their property transactions. So, explain this to Andrew Rhatigan (21:32) So oftentimes in Ireland, just to give you a backdrop as to how real estate agency works here, we have a very small number of buying agents. So let's say we're one of only, I would say between three and five buying agents in the entirety of Ireland. There may be more that I'm not aware of, but ones that would be more prominent. And when you look at how people tend to view a real estate transaction, it tends to be very DIY. So people in a residential setting, it's not a standard practice to... Jason Hull (21:54) So people in a residential setting, it's not a standard practice to hire a buying agent and then the buying agent splits the fee with the selling agent. Oftentimes you'd have someone that meets, let's say us, and they could say, oh, I have to pay you upfront before you buy me a house. I could just do it myself, much like some partners. Right. when we're working with people and the structure we've put together is we want people, especially at the level we work with, you know, they're investors, they're C-suite executives, they're ex-paths, high net worth. Andrew Rhatigan (21:58) hire a buying agent and then the buying agent splits the fee with the selling agent. Oftentimes you could have someone that meets, let's say us, and they could say, I have to pay you upfront before you buy me a house. I can just do it myself, much like someone deciding to paint the garden gate. So when we're working with people and the structure we've put together is we want people, especially at the level we work with, know, they're investors, they're C-suite executives, they're ex-paths, high net worth. They're busy building their own lives and their own, ⁓ their own vision of what they want in a different area of life. So essentially by understanding what people want, we then set about and do everything else for them. So we're searching on the ground. We're sending them deals. We're putting together an overview of what life and business and property potential is like on the ground while they're living life. And the idea being that they don't have to spend time communicating with eight or nine different agents to understand an area. Jason Hull (22:23) They're busy building their own lives and their own vision of what they want in a different area of life. So essentially by understanding what people want, we then set it out and do everything else for them. So we're searching on the ground, we're sending them deals, we're putting together an overview of what life and business and property potential is like on the ground or their living life. And the idea being that they don't have to spend time communicating with eight or nine different agents to understand an area. Andrew Rhatigan (22:51) we are the one single point of contact. So when Jason Hull (22:51) We are the one single point of contact. Andrew Rhatigan (22:53) someone signs with us, part of the deal they have to agree to is, and the reason we do it is we become the one person, the one conduit that they can ask a question to. And much like you said with your St. Patrick's Day question, there's no such thing as a dumb question. So when you have one person that's advocating for you, you could say to me, Jason, let's say, I've heard that such and such is this big issue in this part of the country. You ask us the question and then we find you the answer rather than. Jason Hull (22:53) So when someone signs with us, part of the deal they have to agree to is, and the reason we do it is, we become the one person, the one conduit, that they can ask a question to. And much like you said with your St. Patrick's Day question, there's no such thing as a dumb question. So we have one person that's advocating for you. You can say to me, Jason, let's say, I've heard that such and such is this big issue in this part of the country. You ask us the question and then we find you the answer, rather than Andrew Rhatigan (23:19) you asking someone else who maybe doesn't understand your situation, doesn't Jason Hull (23:19) you asking someone else who maybe doesn't understand your situation. Andrew Rhatigan (23:22) care enough to do the due diligence that you require. And a big part of why we do that is it simplifies the process for people. It provides one simple channel of communication, but it also buffers them from the market itself. Because if I'm looking at different deals, I might have 10 or 15 clients at any given time. And the agents who see me, they know me, they see me coming. Jason Hull (23:22) doesn't care enough to do the due diligence that you require. And a big part of why we do that is it simplifies the process for people. It provides one simple channel of communication, but it also buffers them from the market itself. Because if I'm looking at different deals, I might have 10 or 15 clients at any given time. And the agents who see me, they know me, they see me coming, and they know that I'm acting on behalf of someone who, as Bonafides, owns in place. Andrew Rhatigan (23:44) and they know that I'm acting on behalf of someone who has a bona fides funds in place. And it means that you're not going to get marketed to, you're not going to have someone that goes around me to contact Jason to try and do a deal. But it also means that when you're working with us, you've paid us to do what matters most for you and not try and do and deal with any agents. So we don't split fees with agents. No one can incentivize me to make it interesting. And I suppose where that freedom is for other people. And I suppose the education for people internationally is Jason Hull (23:50) And it means that you're not going to get marketed to, you're not going to have someone that goes around me to contact Jason to try and do a deal. But it also means that when you're working with us, you paid us to do what matters most for you and not try and do a deal with any agent. So we don't split fees with agents. No one can incentivize me to make it interesting. And I suppose where that freedom is for other people and I suppose the education for people internationally is they're paying me like a consultant in a surgery in a doctor's suite that's advocating for them. Andrew Rhatigan (24:13) They're paying me like a consultant in a surgery or in a doctor's suite that's advocating for them and not what they can get along the way. who can incentive, you know, make me the best offer and I'll throw them your way. No interest. And then when it comes to savings, what we do is the Irish property market is also very nuanced. So we don't have, you know, seven day closings or escrow accounts that have a binding contract in the space of a couple of days. Ireland's sales process can be very protracted. Jason Hull (24:20) and not what they can get along the way. who can incentive, know, make me the best offer and I'll throw them your way. No interest. And then when it comes to savings, what we do is the Irish property market is also very nuanced. So we don't have, you know, seven day closings or escrow accounts that have a binding contract in the space of a couple of days. Ireland's sales process can be very protracted. Andrew Rhatigan (24:42) So when we're involved and we understand the nuances of a sale, we can save people time and money because the seller has different motivations. One Jason Hull (24:42) So when we're involved and we understand the nuances of the sale, we can save people time and money because the seller has different motivations. Andrew Rhatigan (24:49) person may need time, so they may want less money, but more time in a property. Another person may have financial commitments that they have to adhere to, and we might be able to put something together. Other people, could be a bereavement where they have to offload a part of their property portfolio for tax reasons or for personal reasons. So because we can understand and get to the crux of a sale background quite quickly, Jason Hull (24:50) One person may need time, so they may want less money but more time on the property. Another person may have financial commitments that they have to adhere to and might be able to put something together. Other people it could be a bereavement where they have to offload a part of their property portfolio for tax reasons or personal reasons. So because we can understand and get the crux of the sale background quite quickly, Andrew Rhatigan (25:10) I can save people time by telling them there's no point engaging in this because it's an illegal battle. It's going to take time. Or I might say, look, they're asking X, but they'll take Y. They just want Christmas in the house until we take over the sale. And by understanding that you can find that sweet spot and capitalize and save them the money where it matters most. Jason Hull (25:10) I can save people time by telling them there's no point engaging in this because it's an illegal battle. It's going to take time. Or I might say, look, they're asking X, but they'll take Y. They just want Christmas in the house until they take off the sale. And by understanding that, you can find that sweet spot and capitalize and save them the money where it matters most. Got it. Yeah. So you're this advocate that helps them kind of balance the negotiation between time. money, all the needs of the buyer and the seller and make sure that this is working. You're advocating for them. You're advocating for them. So what else would you like to share before we wrap up? And then how can people connect with you if they're interested in maybe hearing more about investing in this in Ireland market? Andrew Rhatigan (25:57) Yeah, so first and foremost, suppose one of the challenges when you're coming from abroad is when you're not on the ground, it's very difficult to be heard. And I think oftentimes people will be SEO and Googled within an inch of their life, looking at properties or looking at areas that are sold as a particular dream to them via this lovely screen that's curated through carefully utilized marketing platforms. And I suppose when people, if they're looking from the States, one big thing I would say is an agent in Ireland, if you, if you Jason Hull (26:15) that's curated through carefully utilized marketing platforms. Right. Because when people, they're looking from the States, one big thing I would say is an agent in Ireland, if you request details from an ad, isn't going to tell you it's not going to suit your needs. They're just going to sell you what they have for sale. Yeah. But oftentimes, when I encourage anyone when they're assessing Ireland, even if you're only paying a small fee to understand whether this is a market that's going to suit your needs or not, it's important to reach out to someone. It doesn't have to be me. Andrew Rhatigan (26:25) request details from an ad isn't going to tell you it's not going to suit your needs. They're just going to sell you what they have for sale. And oftentimes, when I encourage anyone when they're assessing Ireland, even if you're only paying a small fee to understand whether this is this is a market that's going to suit your needs or not, it's important to reach out to someone. It doesn't have to be me. That will give you a practical on the ground look at what your money is going to do for you and if Ireland is going to suit. And a prime example would be today we had an American client Jason Hull (26:45) that would give you a practical on the ground look at what your money is going to do for you and if Ireland is going to suit and a prime example would be today we had an American client Andrew Rhatigan (26:54) very successful and they went through an ad to find a property in a certain part of Ireland that was absolutely not going to suit their needs. And it was a very high value property, all things considered. And by spending time with us, we showed them what they could have without skin in the game. And Jason Hull (26:55) very successful and they went through an ad to find a property in a certain part of Ireland that was absolutely not going to suit their needs and was very high value property all considered and by spending time with us we showed them what they could have without getting the game Andrew Rhatigan (27:10) we completely changed the narrative. So they would have been buying in a very industrial area. It would have been very imposing. They wouldn't have been getting what Ireland is all about. And then Jason Hull (27:11) and we completely changed the narrative. So they would have been buying in a very industrial area. It would have been very imposing. They wouldn't have been getting what Ireland is all about. Wow. Andrew Rhatigan (27:20) by showing them this and giving them the time they needed to kind of transition almost like, you know what, if you're up a mountain to acclimatize, we've now agreed them a property as of today that saved them 450,000 on their budget and has totally flipped the script on where they thought they wanted to buy. So instead of buying industrial, they're Jason Hull (27:21) By showing them this and giving them the time they needed to kind of transition, almost like, you know what, if you're going up a mountain to acclimatise, we've now agreed them a property as of today that saved them 450,000 on their budget and is totally fit to script on where they thought they wanted to buy. So instead of buying industrial. Andrew Rhatigan (27:39) buying by the ocean. And instead of buying something that's brand new, that looks great today, they're buying something that's got great pedigree. And instead of just being sold something for the sake of transacting, Jason Hull (27:39) they're buying by the ocean and instead of buying something brand new that looks great today, they're buying something that's got great pedigree. And instead of just being sold something for the sake of transacting, Andrew Rhatigan (27:48) they've been guided to something that's going to suit their risk tolerance, their life now, and also the future if they chose to rent it in time to come. So that's just a simple example of what we do regularly. Jason Hull (27:49) they've been guided to something that's gonna suit their risk tolerance, their life now, and also the future if they chose to invest in the time to come. So that's just a simple example of what we do regularly. Nice, yeah. So instead of being manipulated by marketing, thinking you're buying some beautiful Irish property in Ireland, and you end up in an industrial area with something shiny and new that maybe isn't going to really suit your needs, then it'd be better to have a conversation with somebody that's real solid boots on the ground that are going to take a look at things and help you figure out what's actually going to help you reach your goals. Exactly. And people tend to reach out to Andrew Rhatigan (28:23) Exactly. And people tend to reach out to me through either RRE.ie that's our website. And we also, I'm very active on LinkedIn. So anyone that wants to connect or ask questions or book a zoom or a virtual coffee is more than happy to do so. I suppose a big part of what I love about my business and it's, it's, suppose as an entrepreneur as well, as much like meeting people like you is I love interesting conversation and meeting people with dynamic outlooks and personalities. And that kind of layers in what I do in property. But first and foremost, I love meeting people as well. Jason Hull (28:28) and we'll. It's, I suppose it's. Fantastic. What's ⁓ the website again? Andrew Rhatigan (28:54) It's RRE.ie so R if I'm putting an American twang on it, it would be RRE.ie. Jason Hull (28:58) Yeah. R R E dot I E. Andrew Rhatigan (29:01) IE so Rhatigan real estate and the dot IE is the Irish domain version of dot com. Jason Hull (29:08) IE, okay, got it, okay. It couldn't get IR, I guess, so. Andrew Rhatigan (29:12) No, it was IE. We also have Rhatiganrealestate.com, but RRE would be the original website that we had. Jason Hull (29:16) Okay. Got it. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Cool. Andrew, great having you on the show. Very interesting to hear what's going on across the pond, as they say, and appreciate you being here and sharing your insight and your wisdom with us. right. Cool. So for those of you that maybe felt stuck or stagnant in your property management business, reach out to us at doorgroot.com. We would love to see if we could help you out. You can also join our free Andrew Rhatigan (29:32) Absolute pleasure, delighted to be here. Jason Hull (29:45) Facebook community just for property management business owners at doorgrowclub.com. And if you found this even a little bit helpful, don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review. We'd really appreciate it. And until next time, remember the slowest path to growth is to do it alone. So let's grow together. Bye everyone.
What it really looks like to run our biggest Golden Brands event yet...From the sleepless nights worrying about 150 goodie bags fitting into a Kia Carnival (yes, I actually Googled van boot sizes) to the $67,000 price tag that still terrifies me - this is the raw, messy, exciting behind-the-scenes of building a conference at this level.In this episode I share:Why I've chosen not to sell a single thing at this year's event (yep, zero ROI)The pressure, stress, and fears that come with hosting a large-scale conferenceThe personal growth it's taken to even get up on stage as the hostThe reality of the financial risks (including still paying off last year's event)If you've ever thought about hosting an event or you've simply wondered what really goes on behind the highlight reels, this episode is for you.✨ Growth always comes when we take the risks and push ourselves out of our comfort zone.Virtual conference tickets are available at: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/virtual-tickets-to-a-golden-success-conference-tickets-1493586680969If you enjoyed the episode, I'd LOVE if you left a quick review - it means the world and helps us reach more small biz owners.
Caroline and Mikaela talk about the weird things that they have Googled since the last episode.Intro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/mountaineer/soddenLicense code: OLCQJ25ODNHHVXJPOutro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/moire/bees-in-the-gardenLicense code: 2HZLRNJC7UF8JVD4 Listen to our favorite songs! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0e566a7o6bYw8cy3IOfBn6?si=jYV_YsutRSiw7gwN2XhaGA&pi=u-Wz_U3iwTRumi | Follow us on Instagram and TikTok
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If you've ever searched for answers to flute and other musical subjects, well this episode is for you, because you may or may not have found an easy to understand answer. I'll walk you through the top flute questions step by step so you can feel confident in your playing and enjoy your practice time even more. We're going to talk about four big flute questions today: What is the best beginner flute and how much should you spend? How to clean and care for your flute. Where to find and how to read a flute fingering chart How to play notes without squeaks. For more content like this, visit https://learnfluteonline.com or watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/hFRVjeo9cQU
Have you ever Googled “best gift for moms” or “top gifts for hosts”? Those curated lists that pop up are called holiday gift guides — and they're some of the most powerful media opportunities of the year for product brands.In this episode, we're breaking down why gift guides matter, how to pitch your product for inclusion, and the key role affiliate networks play in landing coverage. If you're a brand looking to shine this holiday season, this episode is your roadmap to getting featured.What we cover: 0:26 – What holiday gift guides are (and why they matter)2:02 – How we can write a holiday gift guide for you2:58 – What a PR “pitch” is and how to do it5:05 – Affiliate networks explained and why they're crucial for product brands7:55 – Do you really need to be on an affiliate network to get press?9:00 – Does being on Amazon help you get featured?9:13 – When product brands should start pitching for holiday gift guides9:48 – How to pitch seasonal angles beyond the holidays Support the showWant a Personalized PR Plan? (includes: a custom PR pitch, curated list of 5–10 ideal media outlets, “Where to Go from Here” roadmap (pitch cadence, next steps, etc.) AND a personalized voice note. Click here: https://www.visibilityonpurpose.com/offers/prxBzYXW/checkout DIY PR COURSE!! https://www.visibilityonpurpose.com/pitchpartySIGN UP ON QWOTED for free: https://www.qwoted.com/?via=VOPWatch our FREE masterclass to start landing big press features like Forbes & interviews on top 1% podcasts: https://www.visibilityonpurpose.com/getfeatured Connect with us on and off the pod! Website: www.visibilityonpurpose.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/visibilityonpurpose/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@visibilityonpurpose
Have you ever Googled tips on how to ace an interview? Some recommendations are dead-on, and some are absolutely insane. Jeff and Marisa break down the biggest "hacks" on the web.
Think your maintenance calories are low? Think again.If you've been stuck in the restrict–overeat–repeat cycle, constantly second-guessing how many calories to maintain weight, and feeling like eating more will sabotage your goals… this episode will turn everything you thought you knew upside down.I'm diving into the truth about maintenance calories - and why yours are probably hundreds of calories higher than you think. If you've ever asked, “what are my maintenance calories?” or endlessly Googled a maintenance calorie calculator, this episode is your permission slip to stop fearing food and start fueling like your body actually needs. You'll walk away with practical steps for estimating maintenance calories, plus mindset shifts to break free from the lies diet culture sold you.Here's what we're covering:(2:30) The “eat less, get more” lie: what if the real problem is that you're under-estimating maintenance calories most of the time?(5:00) 3 common mistakes that sabotage your fat loss without you knowing.(5:50) The weekday/weekend pendulum that keeps you stuck: how you can feel disciplined Monday–Friday but still not hit your maintenance calories without realizing it.(13:25) Signs that your maintenance calories are higher than you think.(23:30) A simple method to stop asking, “what are my maintenance calories?” and start using real data to find how many calories to maintain weight.We'll talk through how estimating maintenance calories based on your lifestyle, tracking honestly, and prioritizing protein can shift everything - from your energy to your metabolism to your results.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Access free and low cost resources and services from this episode HERE!DIY Macros GuideCustom Macro CalculationCONNECT WITH EMILY FIELD RD:InstagramWebsiteFacebook
“Is it ever okay to destroy someone's car if you're pregnant and stressed?” That's just one of the wild questions Sandy and Tricia tackle in this laugh-out-loud episode of The Sandy Show. From heartfelt moments to hilarious chaos, this episode has it all. Sandy kicks things off with birthday shoutouts to Amy Adams, Al Roker, and rock legend Robert Plant, followed by a nostalgic tribute to Mad Libs that had Tricia in stitches. But things take a turn when Tricia shares the jaw-dropping story of a woman named Stephanie who went full Carrie Underwood on her ex's car—glitter in the vents, salt in the engine, and a mugshot smile that says it all. Balancing the madness, Sandy shares a feel-good story of Jasmine Mick, a woman who gave birth on her parents' lawn with the help of a heroic neighbor-paramedic. Then it's back to the absurd with tales of Kevin the peacock evading police and eight raccoons throwing a jacuzzi party in Florida. Notable Moments:“She poured salt into his engine. The car had to be totaled.”“Kevin, do not come here!” — a police officer trying to wrangle a runaway peacock.“I haven't given up hope that I'll one day adopt a baby raccoon.” — Sandy's dream pet plan.“62% say lying about your age is a dealbreaker… for the 38% who do it.”Call to Action: If you laughed, gasped, or Googled “blue-footed booby” during this episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share The Sandy Show with your friends. Follow us on Instagram @TheSandyShowOfficial and text us at 737-301-9600 to tell us where you're listening from—we love hearing from you!
“What do pumpkin seeds, Joan Rivers, and Sean Penn have in common?”They all make surprising appearances in this nostalgic, hilarious, and unexpectedly informative episode of The JB and Sandy Show. Sandy kicks things off with a trip down memory lane, revisiting the pop culture giants of 1985—from Michael Jordan's rookie season to Madonna and Sean Penn's paparazzi-fueled beach wedding. Tricia and Sandy even share a surreal moment when they found themselves face-to-face with Sean Penn in a New York elevator. Then it's on to the “Things We're Into” segment, where JB drops a protein-packed bombshell: pumpkin seeds have more protein than beef. The trio shares their favorite snacks, including Tricia's obsession with Little Debbie cherry pies and Sandy's love for the Kardashian salad (don't knock it till you try it).Notable Quotes:“Sean Penn looked at me like he knew me—maybe he thought I was Michael Chiklis.”“Pumpkin seeds have 32 grams of protein. More than beef. Who knew?”“Joan Rivers had a card catalog of jokes. That's next-level comedy organization.”“If you lose me in the grocery store, check the Little Debbie aisle.” Call to Action: If you laughed, learned something new, or Googled “how much protein is in pumpkin seeds,” don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share The JB and Sandy Show with your friends. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @JBSandyATX and stream the podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
It's been a busy summer at NREL. In this episode, you'll learn about: The appointment of NREL's incoming laboratory director Dr. Jud Virden, who brings 34 years of national lab experience at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and a background in chemical engineering to his new position. How Google and NREL teamed up to host an AI Hackathon. (Yes, we Googled it: Hackathon is a real word.) This summer's EnergyTech University Prize 2025 collegiate pitch event with many innovative university students vying for the prize pool of more than $430,000. This episode was hosted by Kerrin Jeromin and Taylor Mankle, written and produced by Allison Montroy, Hannah Halusker, and Kaitlyn Stottler, and edited by Taylor Mankle, Joe DelNero, and Brittany Falch. Graphics are by Brittnee Gayet. Our title music is written and performed by Ted Vaca and episode music by Chuck Kurnik, Jim Riley, and Mark Sanseverino of Drift BC. Transforming Energy: The NREL Podcast is created by the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado. Email us at podcast@nrel.gov. Follow NREL on X, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, Threads, and Facebook.
Hello friends! Singer-songwriter, Pete Droge is my guest for episode 1508! His first solo album since 2006, the gorgeous and personal, Fade Away Blue, drops this Friday, August 22nd. Pete was adopted as a baby and 16 years ago he set out to find his birth parents. When he found out his birth mother's name, he Googled her and found out that she had died three weeks before. What followed was both beautiful and sad. While Fade Away Blue isn't a concept record, the thread of his life story runs through the songs on the album. From the story of his birth mother, Barbara Ann, to the parents that adopted him, to his amazing wife and partner, Elaine Summers. He'll be hitting the road in September and October. Go to petedroge.com for tour dates, links to his Substack, music, videos and more. We have a great conversation about his journey of self-discovery, our many mutual friends, making Fade Away Blue, and much more. I had a great time getting to know Pete. I'm sure you will too. Let's get Down! Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, X, Facebook, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you pod. Send someone the gift of Johnny with Cameo. If you feel so inclined. Venmo: venmo.com/John-Goudie-1 Paypal: paypal.me/johnnygoudie
In this episode, Sharona and Boz speak with Camp (Dr. John Camp), the head of teaching and Learning at NEIA, the New England Innovation Academy. NEIA is an Independent day and boarding school in Massachusetts. NEIA's mission is to prepare the next generation of innovators and entrepreneurs to pursue their dreams and shape. In this episode, Camp shares with Sharona and Boz how NEIA uses alternative grading practices to break out of the constrictions of traditional grading and support their core principles of innovation and entrepreneurship by constructing authentic learning both inside and outside of the classroom.Key to their implementation is using their school wide "competencies" as the guideposts for developing their assessments. Join us to explore the details of how school wide competencies can provide the design guideposts for discipline based assessents from Math to Science to the Humanities and beyond.Camp BioCamp is Head of Teaching & Learning at NEIA. He oversees the development of systems to recruit, hire, support, and evaluate teachers and helps teachers develop and implement the curriculum. He's been a leader and a teacher at a variety of schools throughout his 29-year career: boarding, day, single-sex and college. His experience includes English and writing classes as well as interdisciplinary courses such as “The Art and Physics of Time Travel.” At St. Mark's School, which bestowed him with The Trustees Chair and the Kidder Faculty Prize, Camp served as the Director of Experiential Learning and Associate Director of The Center of Innovation in Teaching and Learning. A pair of his pedagogical mantras include, “I aim to teach what cannot be Googled” and “I expect you to work hard, so I work hard.”LinksPlease note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!New England Innovation AcademyCompetency-Based Grading at NEIAOTUS GradebookResourcesThe Center for Grading Reform - seeking to advance education in the United States by supporting effective grading reform at all levels through conferences, educational workshops, professional development, research and scholarship, influencing public policy, and community building.The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:The Grading for Growth BlogThe Grading ConferenceThe Intentional Academia BlogRecommended Books on Alternative Grading:
This week on Expert, we’re tackling one of the most-Googled beauty questions ever: Can you actually shrink your pores? From viral clay masks to pore-blurring primers, we’ve all been tempted by products promising “poreless” skin, but how much of that is marketing, and how much is science? Jas shares her latest VISIA scan results post-treatments (spoiler: she's a time traveller), before we dive into: What really determines pore size (genetics, oil flow, collagen levels) Why pores sometimes look larger, and how to prevent it The skincare ingredients worth adding to your routine (retinol, niacinamide, AHAs, salicylic acid) In-clinic treatments that actually help (and the ones to avoid) Affordable pore-refining products under $100 that really deliver We also settle the debate on whether blackhead vacuums and pore strips help or harm (hint: your barrier will thank you if you skip them). Plus, in Win, Bin or Recycle, we ask: are bandage dresses back… and are they a recession indicator? And in Adore Anonymous, an exfoliation dilemma: if your cleanser already has acids, is it double-exfoliating to use another? If you’ve ever zoomed in on your nose and wished your pores would disappear, this episode will reset your expectations and give you the best tools to refine, smooth, and keep your skin healthy long-term. Everything Mentioned: Are bandage dresses a recession indicator? https://www.instagram.com/p/DLPw3H2NYnl/?hl=en&img_index=1 Cosmedix Define Age-Defying Treatment Cosmedix Opti Crystal- Liquid Crystal Eye Serum Aspect Pigment Punch+ 30ml Benefit POREfessional Primer Australia Medik8 Pore Cleanse Gel Intense Medicube Zero Pore Cream Murad Blemish Control Clarifying Toner 180m Credits: Hosts: Tegan Mac and Sadaf Razi Producer: Jasmine Riley For more beauty insights and exclusive offers, visit adorebeauty.com.au Disclaimer | Privacy Policy Adore Beauty acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work and podcast. We pay our respects to Elders past, present and emerging.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hiiiiiiii,This is the episode.The one I've played out in my head a thousand times… but honestly, there were days I wasn't sure it would ever exist.For two years, I've been on a fertility rollercoaster that's chewed me up, spat me out, patched me together and then thrown me back on for another round. I've sat in waiting rooms with my heart in my throat. I've done injections at 6 am with shaking hands. I've cried in carparks. I've Googled at 2 am until my eyes stung.And now… I finally get to tell you what happened after our first IVF transfer.And our second.Tune in as my beautiful friend, Heidi Anderson, asks me all the juicy questions:The traumatic experience that put me off IVF for goodMy rock-bottom moment and why I "gave up" The (drugged-up, high AF) second transfer, and the crazy dreams and messages I started receivingThe moment Paul and I found out… sitting by a campfire, off-grid, holding our breath.My reaction, Paul's reaction, friends' and family's reactionsMy first trimester experience (wtf, am I actually typng this?!) My gender prediction...and so much more.Honestly, this is my favourite episode yet.Whether you've been here from the start of my journey or you've only just joined The Mind School family, this one's for you, because you've been holding hope for me in ways you might not even realise.
We're the kind of people who'd lick a glacier just to say we've “explored it cold.” No matter what we're talking about—be it cheese, space travel, or ancient plumbing—we'll somehow loop it back to the environment. And yes, between two questions, we casually teleport 11,000 miles—from croissants in Paris to kiwis in the Bay of Plenty. Our carbon footprint is basically a world tour.Margot, from Paris, France is the listener setting the first question today. “What is the significance of pilgrimage in different religions?”Alex thinks pilgrimages are just fancy holidays with extra soul-searching. Stuart's like, “Pilgrimage? Could be a museum binge or a walk to your nan's—whatever moves you.” William treats Finland like his personal Zen dojo. Alex says you don't even need to leave your sofa—just vibe deeply. Stuart reckons all pilgrimages, religious or not, are just brain space with a passport. William's in it for the emotional detox. Environmentally? Alex hugs trees locally. Stuart reads the fine print before jumping on the eco-bandwagon. William wants pilgrimages with less carbon and more conscience.Ryan, from Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand sets the next question. “Does the concept of fate or destiny play a role in the meaning of life and choices we make?”Alex treats destiny like a cosmic suggestion box—no proof, but hey! Stuart's into fate with a side of free will, like life's a GPS with optional detours. William's not buying it—he's Team DIY Life Plan. Alex likes spreadsheets over spontaneity. Stuart says embracing life's chaos is liberating, like nihilism but with better PR. William, after hearing the others, realizes he's never properly Googled “destiny” and might give it a second thought. Eco twist? Alex says ponder fate while hugging a tree. Stuart suggests debating destiny to save the planet. William wants to slow-cook his existential crisis and see if it's compostable.The video link of the race William refers to which was when Australian Steven Bradbury won gold medal at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUi4-H6hfw8What do you make of this discussion? Do you have a question that you'd like us to discuss? Let us know by sending an email to thepeoplescountryside@gmail.comSign the Petition - Improve The Oxfordshire Countryside Accessibility For All Disabilities And Abilities: change.org/ImproveTheOxfordshireCountrysideAccessibilityForAllDisabilitiesAndAbilities Fundraiser For An Extreme 8 All-terrain Wheelchair: justgiving.com/wildmanonwheelsWe like to give you an ad free experience. We also like our audience to be relatively small and engaged, we're not after numbers.This podcast's overall themes are nature, philosophy, climate, the human condition, sustainability, and social justice.Help us to spread the impact of the podcast by sharing this link with 5 friends podfollow.com/ThePeoplesCountrysideEnvironmentalDebatePodcast , support our work through Patreon patreon.com/thepeoplescountryside. Find out all about the podcast via this one simple link: linktr.ee/thepeoplescountryside
TOP STORIES - Florida's new lieutenant governor earns the nickname “Chuck Norris of Florida politics,” Ryan tests Chris and Dana on their knowledge of past lieutenant governors, Tropical Storm Erin is expected to become a hurricane this week, and a naked man is found in a backyard while a woman breastfed her infant. Plus, the Alligator Alcatraz federal hearing continues, a Royal Caribbean passenger plans to sue after a water slide malfunction, and a suspect allegedly Googled “robbery in Miami Lakes” right after committing one nearby.
When your dog's limping or your cat won't stop scratching, it's tempting to reach into your medicine cabinet, but should you?In this episode, I'm joined by returning guest Dr. Zoo, my vet and the veterinarian for Starlight Outreach and Rescue, to tackle one of the most Googled questions in pet parenting: “Can I give my pet human over-the-counter meds?”We're breaking down what's safe, what's dangerous, and what might help when the vet is closed and your pet needs relief now.BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU'LL FIND OUT: • Which common human medications can be deadly to pets - even in small amounts • Safe, vet-approved options you can keep on hand for pain, allergies, and stomach issues • Natural remedies hiding in your fridge or pantry that actually workStop guessing, Googling, or asking that know-it-all in your dog mom Facebook group who thinks garlic cures everything. This episode gives you the real answers, so you're ready the next time your pet needs help.CONNECT WITH DR. ZOO: https://familyahfriendswood.com/Send us a textLove the show? Please share it with another pet parent who wants less chaos and more clarity. Please leave a 5-star review to help others find real-life, judgment-free advice.
The female orgasm: we've talked about it a lot over the years, but it never stops being one of the most requested, most misunderstood, and most fascinating topics we cover. In this episode, we're flipping the script and looking at orgasm through a partner's eyes. What does it mean to be supportive? How can you tell if she's actually orgasming? And why is it so inconsistent? We're answering your most Googled questions, plus the ones you've been too embarrassed to type into a search bar. Here's what we're getting into: Why women fake orgasms (and what to do about it) What to say if your partner has never had one before How to know if she's really having an orgasm The truth about female performance anxiety Which positions are best for helping her O How to help her experience multiple orgasms G-spot orgasms and squirting: can you make them happen? What to do while she's orgasming (hint: don't freeze!) How to make it last longer + aftercare
Send us a textFairfax criminal lawyer Jonathan Katz one day Googled for other lawyers practicing martial arts, and came upon David Kaufman of KarateLaw.com . Now, several years later, Jon Katz speaks to David (now retired from law practice and serving as an expert witness and business security consultant) about applying martial arts experience and knowledge to criminal defense and to the practice of law generally, benefitting from the regular practice of martial arts, and keeping our wits and summoning our calmness during our legal battles. David has devoted years to learning and practicing judo and karate. Jon Katz daily practices the internal martial art of taijiquan Yang style short form, approaching every challenge in courthouse battle and beyond as one more opportunity to engage and improve in proverbial push hands / sensing hands sparring. For good reason this is Jon Katz's fourth martial arts-focused Beat the Prosecution episode. Great criminal defense is a fighting art, and the great martial arts already has paved the way for fighting in court and beyond. Jon Katz's zeal for fighting dates back for decades and continues to this day. This episode's links are on YouTube, on our URL and on Apple podcasts. This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text). If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675
►►Take the Back Pain RESET Challenge! https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/painreset?video=1X2hxmjeSOw ►► Book a FREE Relief Strategy Session with me: https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/SPAP?video=1X2hxmjeSOw ►► Take the “Is Your Back Pain Fixable” Quiz to see if you can fix your back pain WITHOUT Dr.'s, Drugs, and dead-end treatments + be sent the best relief strategy based on your results! https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/quiz?video=1X2hxmjeSOw If you've ever Googled “back pain exercises,” you've probably seen the same 10–20 stretches and movements repeated everywhere. But do they actually work—or could they be making your pain worse? In this video, I put the world's 21 most popular back pain exercises to the test. I'll break down which ones truly help (and why) and which ones you should avoid if you're dealing with chronic low back pain, herniated discs, sciatica, or stiffness that never seems to go away. Most people waste months doing random stretches or cookie-cutter “back pain” routines, only to stay stuck in the same pain loop. If you've tried PT, core work, YouTube exercises, or endless stretches with little relief, you need to see this. ✅ Discover which exercises actually calm your pain system instead of flaring it✅ Learn the #1 mistake keeping your back pain stuck and sensitive✅ See exactly how to build a safe, effective exercise plan that gets results These findings come from my 17+ years dealing with chronic low back pain and coaching thousands out of pain through the #1 chronic low back pain relief program in the world. The Strength & Pain Relief Accelerator Program. Enjoy! -WIlliam LOVING THIS CONTENT? HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN GET MORE! ►►Take the Back Pain RESET Challenge! https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/painreset?video=1X2hxmjeSOw ►► Book a FREE Relief Strategy Session with me: https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/SPAP?video=1X2hxmjeSOw ►► Take the “Is Your Back Pain Fixable” Quiz to see if you can fix your back pain WITHOUT Dr.'s, Drugs, and dead-end treatments + be sent the best relief strategy based on your results! https://fitness4backpain.mykajabi.com/quiz?video=1X2hxmjeSOw
Have you Googled your brand lately? Your Instagram account could be climbing in the search rankings, and we're here to tell you why. In this jam-packed monthly marketing update, Emma breaks down six major platform changes that could have a serious impact on your visibility and content strategy. First up: Instagram's decision to expand Google indexing for public posts, which could make your content more visible in search results even outside the app. Emma also covers Instagram's auto-scroll test (think TikTok-style endless feed), carousel slide-specific likes, and Facebook's new option to pair music with text posts. Over on LinkedIn, a fresh algorithm update gives older posts more time to perform, and Emma shares how smart hashtag use can help boost reach. Plus, TikTok has finally launched native in-app scheduling, making it easier than ever to plan your content in advance. Emma dives deep into why these shifts matter and how you can adapt your marketing strategy right now to boost reach, visibility, and engagement across platforms. Listen in as Emma explains: Why Instagram's Google indexing update is a massive SEO game-changer How LinkedIn's algorithm update gives your content more time to shine What Instagram's new auto-scroll feature means for your video hooks And much, much more! Connect with Ninety Five Media: Website Instagram Need Support with Your Podcast? We've got you covered Book a Strategy Intensive Call with Emma for a custom marketing plan for your brand: strategyintensivecall.co Book a call to explore our social media management services for your business! ninetyfivemedia.co/book-a-call Start posting consistently by scheduling out your content in advance! Use Ninety Five Media's favorite tool, Later.com, to experience how easy this gets to be: http://try.later.com/ninetyfivemedia
If you've ever Googled how to make money online and ended up in a sea of scams, side hustles, and 10-hour-a-day content grinds—this is your reset button. I'm going to show you how real online income is built: with clarity, simplicity, and systems that actually scale. I call it the Effortless Income Engine™—and it's how I run a multi-7-figure business working less than 10 hours a week. No fluff. No hype. Just the real playbook to attract ideal clients, transform lives, and get paid—without burning out. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Effortless Income Engine 02:04 Understanding Your Ideal Client 08:12 The Client Magnet: Attracting Your Audience 14:02 Creating a Magic Offer 19:16 Effortless Enrollment: Converting Clients 28:53 Building a Sustainable Business Model
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Join me, Danielle Ireland, on this week's episode of Don't Cut Your Own Bangs as I chat with Jeanine Bobenmoyer, the founder of City Moms. Jeanine shares her journey from feeling isolated in a new city to building a thriving community for moms that is expanding nationwide. We dive into the power of community building, the importance of saying 'no,' and how City Moms grew from a local network to a national movement. This conversation is filled with heartfelt moments, laughter, and invaluable lessons on self-trust and service to others. Tune in to learn how Jeanine's mission evolved and how you can connect with this incredible community of supportive moms. Don't miss Jeanine's own 'Don't Cut Your Own Bangs' moment—it's a story of transformation you won't want to miss! 00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview 01:11 Jeanine's Background and City Moms Origin 02:46 Early Challenges and Community Building 04:39 Meeting Sarah and Business Growth 10:32 Drew Barrymore Show and Indianapolis Love 13:54 Content Strategy and Community Engagement 20:59 COVID Impact and National Expansion 23:05 Expanding the City Moms Community 24:17 Building a Female-Led Team 26:15 Listening to City Moms 28:50 Storytelling Over Sales 36:02 Launching a New Membership Experience 38:32 A Personal Story of Change 50:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts RATE, REVIEW, SUBSCRIBE TO “DON'T CUT YOUR OWN BANGS” Like your favorite recipe or song, the best things in life are shared. When you rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast, your engagement helps me connect with other listeners just like you. Plus, subscriptions just make life easier for everybody. It's one less thing for you to think about and you can easily keep up to date on everything that's new. So, please rate, review, and subscribe today. DANIELLE IRELAND, LCSW I greatly appreciate your support and engagement as part of the Don't Cut Your Own Bangs community. Feel free to reach out with questions, comments, or anything you'd like to share. You can connect with me at any of the links below. Connect with Jeanine: Website: www.thecitymoms.org Join our membership waitlist: https://thecitymoms.org/join-waitlist Instagram:@thecitymoms TikTok: @thecitymoms Pinterest: @thecitymoms Connect with Danielle: Watch the show on YouTube Instagram The Treasured Journal Wrestling a Walrus Transcript [00:00:00] [00:00:08] Hello. Hello, this is Danielle Ireland and you are catching an episode of Don't Cut Your Own Bangs. [00:00:13] And today I have the opportunity to sit down with city moms founder, janine Bobmeyer. Janine is a mom of teens, a yoga addict, a Michigan native, and an avid reader. Her dream vacation includes hiking in national parks with her family and a cup of hot chai. And do we get into the tea in this episode? [00:00:34] But RT is super heartfelt, heart led, and based on community building and vulnerability. If that's the stuff that you're into, then oh, you are gonna love this conversation. Of all the things I took from this episode, what Janine embodies and what you are able to learn from as well is what it means to trust yourself, and that in the process of honoring yourself, giving a wholehearted loving no or saying yes to adventure, it is leading you to something that is not only in service of you. [00:01:09] But in service of others. Janine has founded a community city moms and started as a local community that she built based on her own need in Indianapolis. But it has grown and it is popping up in cities all over the country. We get into the early days and please stay tuned if there was ever a, don't cut your own bang moment to really not wanna miss. [00:01:31] This is a good one. It actually, it bookends the episode perfectly because we start by talking about her business and the community and company that she started, but we understand the why, the deep, profound, heartfelt, why that inspired it all. What I believe to be true that when we act in service of ourself it ultimately rises everybody up with you. [00:01:56] Everything we have leaving up to it is also just equally beautiful, sweet, funny, and endearing. [00:02:03] Thank you for being here. Thank you, Janine, for this beautiful conversation. And I can't wait for you to sit back, relax, or put in your AirPods and go for a walk however you like to listen and enjoy. [00:02:18] Danielle: Janine Bobmeyer. It's such a pleasure to have you on the Don't Cut Your Own Banks podcast. You are the chief executive officer and co-founder of City Moms, and it is the largest growing lifestyle brand in the Midwest. [00:02:31] So I am just so honored to spend some time with you and share all of what you do and what you offer women and mothers in the Midwest, to the Don't Cut Your own Bangs. Listeners, thank you for being here. [00:02:43] Jeanine: Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here. [00:02:46] Danielle: Yeah, so fun fact on how we connected, if I'm remembering this correctly, a couple of years ago, city moms reached out to me to feature Don't cut your own bank podcast in, one of your, articles or newsletters just featuring local podcasts in Indie. [00:03:03] And that was so lovely. That was at a time where I was just starting and didn't know who was listening. It was such a, it was so validating and a real confidence boost for me. So I first wanna just say thank you. [00:03:14] Jeanine: Oh my gosh, I'm so glad I remember that article. We were. [00:03:18] Pulling, I think it was the top 10 podcasts you should be listening to in Indianapolis. Specifically founded by females. And you were one of the first that came to mind, because I know you were just launching at the time. You were like, well, hello. Of course you need to be listed on this. [00:03:32] Danielle: When you're just getting something off the ground, there is such a. There's so much space between where you are, right, where you imagine yourself to be or where you wanna be. [00:03:43] And whatever you can do to just keep getting one foot in front of the other, or even getting started takes so much energy and it's vulnerable. And so you and your best friend and business partner Sarah Hawker, are sitting on top of this really beautiful community that you have built. I think community building is just a magic skill. [00:04:06] And so I wanna go back to the early days of City Moms. You have some language on your site that I love. You need a village. We have it. Yeah, I was thinking that we don't need super women. We need supported women. Right. [00:04:20] I've also learned that what we offer others usually starts with the healing we need it. And so you're a mom of teens now? Yeah. So can you tell me a little bit about like the origin of city moms and how you went from I'm imagining having a good idea with your girlfriend to sitting where you're sitting today, being featured on the Drew Barrymore show. [00:04:39] Jeanine: Yeah, I was new to Indianapolis in 2011, so we had moved to the city from Detroit. I'm originally from Michigan, but my husband's from Indy. And in moving here to be closer to his family, I didn't know anybody. And you know, my husband wonderfully, having grown up here, has a lot of friends that are still here, but he's like, let's go out with Davis and let's have, lunch with Johnson. [00:05:02] I was like, I don't wanna do any of that, like . I'm a mom and at the time I had a 1-year-old and a 4-year-old. So you're just trying to keep, your life together in those moments of motherhood anyway. So to be in a new city, and just not know One Soul was really, I mean, just adds more challenges on top of what you're already facing. [00:05:20] Danielle: Mm-hmm. [00:05:20] Jeanine: So we had been here and just before I moved, a friend of mine in Detroit said, have you checked out Meetup? And I was like, no, what is this? And so she's telling me about Meetup and you can go on, you can kind of filter based on your interests and find a local community. And so I did and I found a couple moms groups that were in the Indianapolis area. [00:05:43] I found that, most of the majority of moms communities that we find really across the nation, even today, are tied to one of two things. It's churches [00:05:51] Danielle: or it's schools. [00:05:52] And we [00:05:52] Jeanine: didn't have either. I decided that that was the moment to potentially launch, my own community. [00:05:58] One that was just open to all moms across Indianapolis, that didn't have those specific kind of school or church affiliation, and we had a hundred members sign up on the first day. [00:06:09] Danielle: Whoa. I I have to pause for just a moment. Yeah. So you were seeking to meet your own need. Yes. And I find that so interesting that's really telling about you. [00:06:20] Just as a person and how you move through the world is you saw a gap for your own experience and then immediately connected it to what? Like, how do I expand this beyond me? Yes. As opposed to like, how do I find my community? How do I find my people? You're like, oh, there aren't people or communities, so I'm gonna build one. [00:06:40] That's really interesting. [00:06:42] Jeanine: Yeah. And for me it was because, I desperately needed community. I desperately was seeking that out. I had never been, shy to creating that myself in prior iterations. I was coming out of the advertising industry in Detroit and even in this really large advertising agency, had found my little corner of people. [00:07:04] At the time, had founded a tiny, I forget exactly what we called ourselves, but we were almost like our cheerleading community of the agency itself, where we started to put on little events for this large agency. And it started just because, we saw that at the workplace, it was just constant go, go, go. [00:07:21] In advertising. And there wasn't that pause to connect with, you know, your your desk mate or a team member. And so that for me, is just something that I've always loved doing. [00:07:31] But in coming to Indianapolis recognized, I also needed a community here and without kids in school, without having a church home, without even having, a neighborhood that I was close to. Just that gap existed and I realized it was something I needed to fill. [00:07:48] Danielle: Yeah. And not only did you, it sounds like fill that for yourself, but then you met a need that many other women in the community had too. Now, how did this, so was Sarah somebody that came with you from Michigan? Did you meet her here? How did that connection happen? [00:08:04] Jeanine: Yeah, so Sarah, my business partner and one of my dearest dearest, I actually met her. [00:08:08] We've known each other seven years now. [00:08:10] Danielle: Hmm. [00:08:10] Jeanine: The city moms community. And membership was running for years. [00:08:15] Danielle: Oh. [00:08:15] Jeanine: I was introduced to her, through a mutual friend. It was such a funny experience because we were at this mutual friend's house for a dinner, and immediately upon meeting her I was like, well, this is someone I obviously need to know forever. [00:08:30] She just has one of the most dynamic personalities. She's so engaging. She just pulls you right in. And she asked me a question about, a dress I was wearing. It was from anthropology. And she was like, oh yeah, I have that dress. I think I have that in black. And you're, you wearing it in like a green. [00:08:45] And I was like, boy. Yes. [00:08:47] Danielle: Yes. It's like that scene in stepbrothers, it's like 1, 2, 3 anthropology. [00:08:51] Jeanine: Yes. Exactly. [00:08:52] Danielle: Exactly. And I [00:08:53] Jeanine: was like, oh, well, we're obviously besties. Yeah. Yeah. At the time, she was in the process of, quitting her nursing job. [00:09:02] Danielle: She said, [00:09:02] Jeanine: yes, I'm really, I think my last day is going to be August 31st, and that happens to be my son's birthday. [00:09:09] And she said, I'm just, I've been working so hard, I making this change. I'm going to start my own company. And I just, I've needed this push for a long time. And I said, I am going to text or call you on August 31st and find out how it's going. And she was like, are you really? [00:09:27] And so there we are two months later. I texted her and I said, how's it going? Did you start your own company? Are you making this next move? And she was like, yes. And this is amazing that you remembered. And we just have been close ever since. So she's one of my absolute favorite people, and as the city moms has evolved, so has her role. [00:09:47] First as a member, then she was a member of our content team, which I'm sure we'll chat about here a little bit. And now she's, my business partner. [00:09:55] Danielle: Wow. That's so beautiful. I find that, women who work together, play together, raise kids alongside each other, it's like in the way that women can change hats in life. [00:10:08] They can do that within relationships. I've just seen really well, is it, I think that there's that old paradigm of which I've never really bought into, which is, check your feelings at the door or leave work at the door. It's like we're all one person. The day where we have all these different parts and that's so beautiful. [00:10:26] How. That sounds like this friendship has grown as well as the business growth. [00:10:30] Jeanine: Yes. [00:10:31] Absolutely. And, you've hinted at the Drew Barrymore Show which was an opportunity that came out in COVID complete surprise. [00:10:40] Danielle: Yeah. [00:10:40] Jeanine: To receive an email from the producers in set by, actually this was like end of July, 2021. [00:10:46] And they said, with COVID having really tampered down, a lot of the programming we're able to do for this show, we're not allowed to travel as much. We are launching a new kind of mini segment inside the show itself. We would love to chat with you about the one that we would like to do in Indianapolis. [00:11:02] We noticed that you're based there. Would you have any interest? And of course, Sarah was my first phone call because [00:11:08] I just like, ah, I need someone to scream with for a moment. Yeah. And because we had no idea or context what the segment specifically was about. And so I called and scream with her and then, immediately called the producers. [00:11:19] And they said, well, what we're looking to do is have two best friends in the city showcase the city together. And what makes your city unique? [00:11:28] Danielle: I mean, who better to do it? [00:11:30] Jeanine: And we were like, Indianapolis is such a incredible city and community to begin with. In just the 14 years that we've been here to see the growth that this area has had. [00:11:40] Just all of the changes downtown, all of these incredible like national events that they bring in, like this weekend being WNBA All Star Weekend. [00:11:49] The city has just shown up for this. They've had the final four. They've had US Olympics pre swim trials. This city knows how to put on, a really incredible display on a national level. [00:12:01] Danielle: Do you know, what you're making me think about is, so in the work I do in therapy, particularly when I'm working, with someone on their relationship, that the longer you've been with someone, or, and you could even, insert really any topic, a job, a place you live in this case, a relationship, it's easy to take for granted what you think. [00:12:23] About them and you lose access to maybe the curiosity and the wonder that allows you to continue to discover. I have lived in Indianapolis my entire life. You mentioned living here 14 years, but when I was preparing for this interview and seeing all the places that you're highlighting, there are places I have never been, and I've been here my whole entire life. [00:12:44] Just because I think I know, like this is where I live. Of course, I know there is so much that I don't know and we're talking about community and we're obviously highlighting City moms, but I think that there are takeaways that can be applied to so many walks of life, which is just when you think you know something, for sure. [00:13:02] Allow yourself a little bit more space. There's this little bit room for a little bit more wonder and curiosity. [00:13:09] Jeanine: Yeah, absolutely. I think that takes it back even to the origin of the city moms, in a big piece of that mission was I wanted to get out and explore this new city and community that we were in. [00:13:21] Just didn't have the roots quite yet to do that. And I wanted to do it alongside people [00:13:25] as opposed to on my own. And, we're talking about all these big events that the city puts on. But the other beautiful thing is that the real fabric of the city lives in its people and those that are here, we see so many that are coming in from other communities. [00:13:41] We see a lot like you that have lived here for forever. But there's such an incredible mix of people in this city that really make it as special as it is. And I love that. [00:13:51] Danielle: Thank you that's such a great response. And your love for the city is so felt. And I, I'm curious about when you're in your content, which by the way, for any, everyone listening, everything is linked in the show notes, all the social media platforms, city moms, where you can join the wait list for their membership program. [00:14:09] All of that is accessible to you in the show notes. So press pause, sign up, follow all the things and then come back. 'Cause the other thing I love about your content is you layer in a lot of humor and, even though it's not maybe spoken this way, there's this quality of, yeah, girl, I've been like, this is messy. [00:14:28] And I'm also wiping up my own mess. I also have coffee stains. I also have food in my teeth. Can we just laugh at the ridiculousness of how hard this is sometimes? And I'm curious about how intentional is it? [00:14:39] Are there like pillars that you try to hit when you put content out? Like it must hit these notes and if so, I wanna know what they are. [00:14:47] Jeanine: Yeah, we really do because I think you're absolutely right for us. And I'll just share a little bit behind the scenes for the city moms, in terms of the tone and voice that we are always after in virtually every piece of our content. [00:14:59] I think this also comes out of my marketing and advertising background, but, the voice and the tone in the brand that we are always aspiring to be. Is your best friend growing up and your best friend growing up was the person you confided everything to Similar to me, screaming at Sarah about Drew Barrymore. [00:15:18] This is the pers there's your first call, that's your first call, your first text. But your best friend's sister, her older sister growing up was the coolest girl that you ever met. She was the girl that had the full pull out posters on her wall. She had the Dr. Pepper lip smackers, she was watching the Hills, and she was the girl that you're like, I wanna be her when I grow up. [00:15:40] She's the person that is just a few steps ahead from where you are , in your current life. [00:15:45] Danielle: Yeah. [00:15:45] Jeanine: stage. And you are constantly keeping an eye on her. That voice, that older sister is the one that we always aspire our city moms brand to be. Because we have been there, we have sat in those shoes. We have experienced a lot of the mess. [00:16:00] But that doesn't mean that we are completely. Removed and away from it. It means that we are just a couple days ahead of where our city mom might be and all of our content will always ladder into that voice to say, yeah, we know it sucks 'cause we've been there. [00:16:17] For us, I think what's so critical when we're selecting what content we wanna put out, so the humor that you see in a lot of our Instagram content . Is something that really is a great way to be super relatable and just, share a lot of those similar moments. The one we posted yesterday, [00:16:33] but, in case anyone wants to go back, either the reel that we posted yesterday is from a creator named Sam, and she's sitting on her bed thinking and speaking aloud saying, why did I say that I was so busy before I had kids? What was I even doing before I was a mom? And I think all of us in motherhood and truly in adulthood [00:16:55] Danielle: mm-hmm. [00:16:56] Jeanine: Have had that moment where even like, what did I do with my time? Like, what on earth was I filling my hours with? [00:17:02] That to be able to have kind of those humorous moments, I think is really critical to making sure that we're connecting with our City mom followers and, prospective, members too. [00:17:14] Danielle: That type of humor makes you feel seen. Yes. It helps you feel seen. And I think some, especially someone who like will grab the shovel and help dig into like the pits of experience with clients, some having the levity. If there was ever a myth I wish I could bust about therapy and community, whether it's group or a community like city moms or any extension when you find that type of connection, yes, you can have like with a best friend or a best friend's older sister, you can have those moments where it may be a tear or two are shed, but when somebody sees you. [00:17:51] There's laughter that happens in every therapy session that either I've participated in my own therapy or have led somebody else through. There is something about the truth, especially the truth that you try so hard to avoid or that this is the one thing I just need to keep tucked in my drawer and never let anybody see. [00:18:07] But then you see somebody else has it and you're like, oh, , you have that dress too. Oh my God. Yes, [00:18:13] Jeanine: yes, yes. Absolutely. And I think too, what's, really critical in doing that is just knowing that you are not living a path that is completely unpaved. [00:18:25] It is so hard in. Those moments when you've had two hours of sleep. It's so hard in those moments when you're like, are we ever gonna get past this phase? But I think what brings so much comfort along the way is knowing that there are other women that have done that. [00:18:38] And for us, that's why it's so critical to have a community that is supportive of each other and really allows you to be in those vulnerable moments with others. [00:18:48] Danielle: What do you think attracts people to you and to your organization? [00:18:51] Because like anything that you're highlighting could also be Googled. Yeah. But there's a way that you offer it and there's a way that you present it that is, it simplifies. It's reliable. There's like this bubbly, sparkling champagne effervescence to it. It just makes it a little shinier. [00:19:09] Jeanine: That's such a good question. I don't, there's some days when I'm like, I have no idea. You're like, we've been doing this for so many years, what are we doing? I really think it's because, and to use your phrase, feeling seen. [00:19:20] And feeling seen and being a part of an club that is all, inclusive and allows everyone to be a part of it. Even in some of our content where we're sharing events that we might have put on for just our membership, so not even just our social media, following our, editorial readers, the people that see us and broadcast and tv, but we do have this community of members as well. [00:19:42] So when we put on these membership events, that are a little more exclusive, we love to share those out with the phrase, steal this idea, because then it becomes less, this is only available to these specific women or these specific members and make it a, this can be your idea too. So steal this idea. [00:20:02] We ordered pizza and we set up a really fun style party, or picnic set up in a park and we didn't invite kids. It was just moms and we gabbed for the entire evening and we had a blast. Yeah, and you should steal this idea too, because it doesn't need to just be ours. [00:20:19] Danielle: I can feel now how that falls. [00:20:20] So in line with your idea of, we wanna be your best friend's, big sister, because that's what they would do. Listen, just take the shirt. You can keep it. It doesn't fit me anymore. I love that. Not only is it generous, but it speaks to, I think with time and experience you realize, oh, there's always gonna be more for me. [00:20:36] So why gate keep it like there's always gonna be more. So you just have some of this. You can share some of this magic. That's so beautiful. Has your mission changed? Since you first started, has it grown or is it kind of the same? [00:20:48] Jeanine: It's evolved. I mean, initially the mission and the focus was always just to create this membership community. [00:20:55] And that would be it. And we just had this, community of women here in Indianapolis. The change happened and evolved in COVID because as everyone knows, COVID forced so many of us home. That ability to connect in person no longer existed. In COVID, we held for our membership a daily call at four o'clock on Zoom that allowed our members to just get on and just have people. [00:21:20] We had moms that were like, I've been in my backyard all day. We had moms that were like, I cannot play with Play-Doh anymore. I just need to have an adult to talk to. It started. With the realization that we couldn't be together in person any longer and we needed to make a shift. [00:21:37] And in making that shift, what we found was that our brand exploded nationally. So it went from we are moms in Indianapolis, to, we are moms that everyone across the nation can now connect with because we are all living the same life together. And it never slowed down. So when we look at the breakout of our following in our audience right now, about 30% of that is in the Midwest and very quickly growing. [00:22:03] But the other pockets are New York. Texas, California. And, it just is such an incredible realization that, what started as this very local idea became a steal. This idea, let's all do this. [00:22:17] And on a much bigger scale. So, now we have this wonderful platform. Our number one driver is certainly Instagram because that's where we, I mean, as almost all women in our age group. [00:22:30] Yeah. We live, we love it. Yeah. So Instagram's kind of our number one. A channel, I would say our second is, broadcast tv. [00:22:38] Danielle: Mm-hmm. [00:22:39] Jeanine: So in COVID, a lot of broadcast stations around the country, also had to shift to a Zoom model and Yep. Desperately needed content. and started reaching out to us because we provided a lot of lifestyle content. [00:22:51] The here tips for keeping your kids, safe in the new COVID world. Here are tips for planning kids being at home during back to school. And it, we grew from that and we are now in nine different TV broadcast markets around the Midwest. [00:23:04] Danielle: Wow. [00:23:05] Jeanine: In addition to segments we do across the country. [00:23:07] Danielle: Those segments. I mean, not only are they, fun to look at, but they also provide great information. So when everybody listening goes to city moms.org, you'll be able to see all the media outlets that they've been on. [00:23:19] All those clips are saved there. It's like in this beautiful little library bank that you can watch. So it sounds like it's changed, it's grown rapidly. Beyond, or I would say even within the container of the community that you've created in Indianapolis, there's also a growing community for the business itself. [00:23:35] There's many direct reports and people who are working within the city moms organization, and also supporting in other ways. So I'm curious, just from a business owner standpoint, how has that, 'cause that, as your community expanded, it's also like the call's coming from within the house, there's growth happening inside too. [00:23:53] What has that been like? [00:23:55] Jeanine: It's been incredible. , Because again, we really thought that, in initially creating this community, we were going to live as a micro kind of nano events community would probably be the best way to put it. Or we put on events for our members and we would just keep putting on events for members. [00:24:09] And we had our social channels to share out some of that information. But I thought for a long time that it was just gonna be isolated in this teeny circle. And now, we have a extremely popular blog. We have a digital editor, an entire writing staff that works under her. We have a completely female, based staff. [00:24:28] Every member on our team is female. We've got this digital editor writing staff under her. We have a content team separate from the writing staff. They are the ones that go out and gather a lot of the content that we put across social and broadcast. We have project management team for all of our brand sponsorships that we work on. [00:24:47] Our newest hire is a Pinterest expert, which has been so fun. Pinterest is one of those sleeper cells that, not a lot of emphasis gets put on for lifestyle media brands, and we've decided to invest a person in that. She does a wonderful job at getting our editorial and our broadcast out in Pinterest. [00:25:06] And then, there's Sarah and I who provide leadership Sarah has been a co-partner now for, four months, or we're going into our fourth months together. So we're still figuring out those little funnels right now. We're just having fun, overlapping, and living everything together. [00:25:21] And where she was that first call, I made for the Drew Barrymore show, she's now my first call literally for everything. We've got this big event coming up on Saturday. We need to figure out, the backdrop we're gonna have behind that. [00:25:31] She called me yesterday and I said, Hey, work wife, because that's, we've definitely become for each other in addition to Best Friends. [00:25:38] Danielle: Yeah. Is it an instinct? Is it research? Is it a combination thereof of how you stay connected with what moms really need? Yeah. Is because , I'm a mom of littles. I have a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old and almost 2-year-old. He'll be two later in August. And I, I know my experience, but you seem to have a really strong sense based on the way people are really connected to this community, of staying connected with what mothers specifically really need. And I'm curious how you stay current with that, or is it more that the needs really haven't changed? [00:26:15] Jeanine: No, I think that, for us, because we have such a large staff, [00:26:20] and for the most part, the majority of those women are mothers. [00:26:24] Danielle: Yeah. [00:26:24] Jeanine: All of us are living a different little phase of motherhood. [00:26:28] I have teens, Sarah has 12, 10, and eight. Our photographer Brittany has four and two just like you. So everyone is living in a different stage and I think not only do we have each other from our team perspective but because we have our membership community who is most certainly living all of this. [00:26:47] We are able to lean on their experiences in addition to our own. [00:26:52] And then, one of the biggest things that I really implore our team to do is listen and constantly listen about what city mom and we call our avatar is city mom. And, regardless, again, if she's a member or if she's a follower of our brand and another channel, we call her city mom. So I'm always pushing to listen to city mom, listen to where city mom is right now, what things are the hurdles in her life, what she's up against. [00:27:19] And listening is the most important thing because the last thing that I wanna do in managing and running a brand and spearheading a brand is to not listen and just assume. I think when I also talk about voice, one of the biggest things that, we've talked about as a team as well, is I'm hearing a lot of we [00:27:39] and I'm not hearing enough of you. And by that I mean. We can't come out and say, we know that you're so tired. We know that you're doing all of these things and say, you're telling us that you're tired. You're telling us that you need some space or you need some tips on this. And by making that switch in kind of that voice that helps city mom understand that we are listening, [00:28:02] Danielle: Ooh. [00:28:03] That is a, that's a really powerful language shift. And it's amazing how adjusting a word from a we to a u can really make something washed and vague to very specific and like straight to the heart. I think that there's something too. The language of clarifying what is a really a we what is a you and it speaks straight to the heart of what I think we want, which is to be seen. [00:28:30] There's something about your community that doesn't beat you over the head with messaging. That's one thing that I was really impressed with , is that you get the sense of the essence of what you're saying, but there's not like a slogan. But the sense of the community is so clear. [00:28:47] Jeanine: Yeah. [00:28:47] Danielle: Which I find really beautiful. [00:28:49] Jeanine: I appreciate that. I think, one of the things that we've forever wrestled with was, is really that idea of sales. [00:28:56] I am, I and my team has heard me say this a number of times. I've always been a bigger fan of storytelling over sales and, storytelling kind of an experience as opposed to, you should buy in today. Deadline is this day, you gotta get in now, join here. This is the link. Because we get sold on almost everything across our lives. [00:29:18] And it's, something as little as, the gym to making a donation to a school, your kid's school to just, everything else you can think of under the sun. To me, it's important to continue promoting the essence of a community that you belong to as opposed to an idea that you need to buy into with dollars. [00:29:37] And, that's one of the reasons that we transformed the city moms into a completely free membership. [00:29:43] That also came out of COVID and hearing a lot of city moms say, I have to make some concessions right now. We had to shut off Netflix. We're not doing our Netflix subscription anymore because we're just so worried about budget. [00:29:56] And, that 9 99 a month that we were initially charging for membership, I was like, no. Done. That's out. [00:30:03] Danielle: Never [00:30:03] Jeanine: We will never go back to a paid membership. It will always be free because it needs to be accessible to everyone. [00:30:10] Danielle: So taking away a paid membership that sure, that money was budgeted and allocated for you to operate what you do, it sounded like it was absolutely the right call for your community and your business, but how did you know that that would work? [00:30:26] Or did you [00:30:27] Jeanine: It didn't. No. For a little bit it didn't work, and I'll say that because I think. A lot of us are parts of, Facebook communities that are very, spirited, maybe in some ways that, bring a lot of entertainment. And we were nervous that that would essentially be the transformation that we would undergo. [00:30:47] But, we have all members incoming. Agree to specific member guidelines. And, the number one guideline that is in there is every mom, parents in her own perfect way. And we use that specific language because, in some of similar to a lot of things that we've talked about, the fact is we're all doing our absolute best that we can. And you need to be able to have some space held for you to do that. [00:31:13] Rather than us identify our community based on your specific parenting model, we said, Hey, everyone is welcome here and we're going to honor you for being the parent that you are because we are all parenting in our own perfect way. [00:31:26] Danielle: Yeah. And nobody knows. Yes. No one has any, nobody knows. [00:31:31] That's always the gift of captain Hindsight, who comes in after a crisis and it's what should have happened? It's you know what studies are showing now. You're like, where were you before? I, I, so you talked about, advertising and with all of the products and content and methodologies that are targeted to parents, but more specifically moms, what are the values that you look for when you're filtering through? Who do you partner with? Who do you highlight? Who do you say yes to? Like, what's the value that you're really looking to offer? [00:32:02] Jeanine: I'm so glad you're asking that because, I think the space that we sit in. We often are, seeing a lot of influencers and content creators that they are really working hard to grow their brand and do that by signing with any partner that they can. And you find that there can be a real, I don't wanna say a moral gap because again, I'm just coming off saying everyone parents their own perfect way. [00:32:25] So everyone pulls content and creates content in their own perfect way. But, in, looking and evaluating the partners that we wanna work with, it's really critical to us that they offer a strong, supportive, product or experience for our members and for our followers. We do a lot of partnership with tourism, with attractions, that offer something for you to really be highlighted as the queen of your family. [00:32:51] 'cause you're like, Hey. We're gonna go to Nashville for the weekend, and I've been able to put together a whole itinerary, thanks to the city moms maybe tipping me off about a couple things. But now I've gone out and sourced this great itinerary, or I have been able to enhance our nursery because we found this one product that the city moms recommended. [00:33:09] All of that to say it's really important to us. We spend a lot of time vetting the products that we suggest we spend a lot of time working with or having conversations with the brands that we bring in. That's never just a, Hey, we want to, compensate you X and you guys promote us, and we'll be like, okay, perfect. [00:33:25] There's a lot of time that we spend really making sure that is going to make a lot of sense. In fact, one of my favorite things to say is, no, Sarah will tell everyone this. [00:33:33] Danielle: Tell me more about that. [00:33:34] Jeanine: Yes. Just did this yesterday. I love when we are being, approached by a particular brand or a client or prospective partner. [00:33:41] And I love going through that vetting process and saying, you know what? We spent some time looked into this and this isn't gonna work for us. Case in point, the brand I turned down yesterday is something that we actually use a lot. Sarah and I are big fans of a couple of their products. [00:33:57] Danielle: Mm-hmm. [00:33:58] Jeanine: And they approached us about a new launch they're doing and said, we would love to ship you, two of the new products, but we want all of this content, you need to send it to us for review. [00:34:08] You can only post on the dates that we want. You need to release it all to us that we can use it for our future advertising. By the way, the cost of the products that we're sending you in total is $300. And, the amount of media that was gonna be attached to that from our side was about $5,000. [00:34:26] We have a staff I need to pay, we have a team that, relies on us. We have a full following that relies on us to make sure that we're being authentic in what we are bringing forward. I talked to Sarah about it a little bit and I said, I'm gonna tell them no. And I'm gonna say there's a big value gap here. [00:34:41] Not just from the official bottom line kind of payment side of this, but also because I never wanna put someone into a brand consideration when that brand's not considering them. Just considering their own needs and their own drivers. [00:34:56] Danielle: Oh, that's so strong. And not an answer I expected, but when I so appreciated on a personal level, a professional level. [00:35:04] I don't know, if you've ever done Myers-Briggs, it's a test that Oh yeah. There's so many beautiful like personality assessment profiles, but I'm an extroverted, intuitive feeler perceiver, so I'm all the, ooey, gooey side, the mussies. And, when I see people who maybe from the outside seem to have a very discerning methodology for how they make decisions. [00:35:23] I find that so appealing because I'm such a heart led gut check, first kind of person, I don't always know why it's a yes or a no yet. It's like I feel it first, and then it works its way up into my brain and then whatever reasoning is sort of filtered through will come from that. [00:35:41] But I love that you saw value in yourself, how you believed in the value of what you offer, and you also saw the gap in representing that product or that brand, that didn't fully appreciate the value you were. I just, I love that answer so much. I'll be thinking about that after this, so thank you. [00:36:01] Jeanine: Yes, absolutely. [00:36:02] Danielle: Absolutely. You have a new membership experience starting. [00:36:05] We do very, very soon. This episode, I believe, will be being released mid-August, so, we could safely say it's live, what do you want people to know about what's coming and as far as what you can say, what do you want people to know so that if they wanna participate, get involved, they can. [00:36:23] Jeanine: So our new city moms membership is, officially launching to our, we will be, rolling it out to our existing members starting August 1st, and then it will be available to everyone starting, early September. [00:36:34] Danielle: Awesome. [00:36:36] Jeanine: So we are shifting into a different platform than we have used previously. It's called Circle and it's a wonderful space where we not only can have our full national city mom community, you're gonna find chat groups where you can connect with other city moms across the country there, because, me having like toddler woes in Indianapolis is no different from something having toddler woes in Seattle, Washington. [00:37:01] So why shouldn't you have access to that mom and her, lines of recommendation and such. So we'll have these national chat groups. We also have an opportunity, we'll be doing a lot of lives inside the community that are member exclusive, that we can connect you to some of these, brands and partners that we work with. [00:37:17] And then we are doing nano communities inside of that so that you can hyper connect with women inside your own city. So Indianapolis obviously will be our first big pilot there, but we have Dallas and Cincinnati that are also existing inside, that nano community area. And we have, three other cities that we think are going to be quickly following in 2026 as well. [00:37:40] Danielle: That's so incredible. Congratulations. It sounds like your own city mom social network. Yes. Yes, it totally is. I'm excited for everybody who's an existing member to get to benefit from that. And then the new members who continue to join to get involved in that. [00:37:55] That's incredible. [00:37:57] Jeanine: Thank you. Yeah, it's been one of Sarah's biggest passion projects as she's been getting her feet wet and she's done an incredible job with it. The other really exciting benefit is there are perks, not only for our national members, but then in your hyper local communities too. [00:38:11] So, here in Indianapolis, we've got some great perks with, the Ile Jordan Museum, with the Children's Museum, even dry bar, face Foundry, 'cause we need space for us too, all of those exclusive perks will be part of that too. [00:38:25] Danielle: Beautiful. So not just stuff for the family, but also like ways for moms to take care of themselves too. Exactly. Gorgeous. Yes. Well, Janine, I would be remiss if I signed off without asking you about your, don't cut your own bangs moment because I, it is good. So if you are good taking it away, I would love to hear [00:38:43] Jeanine: yeah. I just wanna tell you, I love this so much. I've listened to so many of your other podcasts and these are the moments I just feel like really are the ones that sit with me the most so I'm so thrilled that you have this as kind of just, that final vehicle to the podcast content. [00:38:59] But mine's a little different because there is, a little sadness tied to it, but it brings a great lesson. [00:39:05] Danielle: Yeah. [00:39:05] Jeanine: So I had mentioned that I worked in advertising for 10 years. I worked on the agency side and I was working in Detroit at the time. And I had a newborn. My daughter was a newborn, and then I had my son who was three years old at the time, and my client was based out of Germany. [00:39:25] It's a very large grocery chain that happens to be based in Germany and they have a lot of outputs here in the US And at the time, we were all going through just a horrible recession in the world. And I was working about 60 to 70 hours a week. Advertising is one of those, especially on agency side. [00:39:44] It's one of those industries. It is go, go, go. And it is never stopping. My husband also works in advertising. It's actually how we met. He at the time was doing about 90 hours a week. We never saw each other, we rarely saw the kids. So my day normally started around 3:00 AM because that's when the German, office was open. [00:40:03] And it normally coincided with the time I was feeding my newborn in the middle of the night. So I would have my phone with me, feeding her, scrolling through email and catching up with the German team, put her back to sleep. Then, I would get up around six when my toddler was awake and finally get the two of them off to daycare. [00:40:18] And I made the decision, which a male boss of mine later told me was selfish to go work out at a gym that was halfway between daycare and, work every day. So I didn't get into the office until around 8 45. Technically our office started at nine. I would work absolutely all day and then race out of my office at 5 51 because if I could leave at 5 51, I could literally run down the street to our parking garage, get in my car, drive as fast as I could at daycare and be there before the seven minute grace period was over. [00:40:50] Danielle: You had it down to the minute? [00:40:52] Jeanine: Down to the minute and. It was coming at a time where it was just, I was so burnt out. My husband was so burnt out this one day I got to daycare. My kids were always the final ones getting picked up. And I had a phrase for my toddler at the time where I'd always say, mommy always comes back. [00:41:11] I would say that to him every morning when I dropped him off. And I ran into daycare this day and my son was crying. I could hear him in the toddler room. So I grabbed the newborn. She was already in her carrier. And then I went in to pick him up and he's crying. And I said, honey, I'm here. [00:41:26] And I got down and gave him a hug. And I said, sweetie, what do I always say? Mommy always comes, Ooh, this makes me tear up. Even think about all this years later. And he goes Last, mommy always comes last. And that was the most soul crushing thing I had ever heard in my life. And I cried the entire way home. [00:41:47] Danielle: Mm-hmm. [00:41:48] Jeanine: And we put the kids down to bed after dinner and after their bath, and I turned to my husband, I said, we cannot do this anymore. I'm done. We're done. We can't keep this schedule going. This is just, this is not gonna sustain us anymore. And we made the decision that night that was the end of this work experience for us. [00:42:08] And, we immediately put resumes and feelers out and that is what made, the transition to Indianapolis possible. It took months, but we eventually found ourselves here and it was the best decision that we ever made. [00:42:21] And what it all came down to was in my don't cut your own bangs moment, was it is okay to say no. It is okay to take that stop. And is it okay to invest in yourself and your family if that's what really matters to you? I think maybe that's what the critical note is. It's okay to invest what matters to you. [00:42:39] To me, that has always been the moment that I have seen as a turning point and, has really been probably the most critical thing for me. [00:42:48] Danielle: Thank you so much for that story that my whole body, it was waves and waves went through, with that and you, when you said it earlier in the interview, but I can really feel the truth of that in a different way. [00:43:05] That you love saying no. Yeah, because I think what I hear in that is it's a fully embodied no is also a yes to something else. [00:43:17] Jeanine: Yes, [00:43:18] Danielle: it is its own. Yes. Like I'm saying no to this offer to position your brand. And I'm saying yes to my integrity. I'm saying no to the needs and the demands that this company and this industry has for me and my life. [00:43:35] And I'm saying yes to my son. Yeah, my infant, like I'm saying yes to me. Oh, I, that reminded me, I hadn't thought of this in so long, but it brought me back to when I. Made the decision to start my, when my husband and I made the decision to start to try to get pregnant, the journey was, knowing what I know now, far less complicated than it is for many. [00:44:01] But it didn't happen the way I thought it would. And that is almost always where suffering comes from me. When there's an unmet expectation and I could, you're taught your whole life. It's like if you look at a penis or sit on a toilet seat wrong you never know how you're gonna get pregnant. So when you first start trying it like, what do you mean it didn't happen right away? What do you mean? My first pregnancy I was a new-ish therapist. I think I had been practicing for, I'm gonna say two and a half, two and a half-ish years, three, maybe three. [00:44:28] But I had, the process of going back to grad school, finding I didn't have the credits I needed to even qualify to apply to the grad program. All of this work and effort. It was like once I set my sights on, I think this is something I want for myself, there was almost immediately after, oh my God. [00:44:46] But I figured that out so late in life and I gotta go, go, go, go, go. So I burnt myself to a crisp getting through all of the hoops I needed to get through to do the job. And I didn't realize the grind on my body, on my mind, on my life. I just didn't see it. I joked that it felt like the road runner and coyote running off the cliff and you didn't realize you were over the cliff until you looked down and my moment of looking down and falling was when I lost that first pregnancy. [00:45:14] And, I don't blame myself for it. It's not that. But there was a clarity in the grief and I think the grief I felt in my own body. Yeah. Your son spoke his truth to you. I felt like my body was, the grief in my body was revealing a truth to me that I wasn't willing to see, which was [00:45:36] there's no room for me in this life that I've built and I have to cut back. And it brought up like being a good girl, being a strong woman, being a strong feminist, being a diligent employee, being reliable, all of these roles and these external things that I was chasing in the pursuit of being really good at my job. [00:45:58] Mm-hmm. That loss was just, oh, actually none of this matters as much as I thought it did. Not that it doesn't matter, but it didn't matter because I thought it did and my hours cut dramatically back and it didn't work for the practice that I was working for before the hours that I would be willing to do. [00:46:18] But then I realized with my husband's support that, oh, I actually can go out on my own. And life has unfolded. It wasn't like magically overnight any more than city moms was created magically, overnight. But it got you to Indianapolis. Mm-hmm. It's like the breadcrumb trail that you were following to freedom led you to something so beautiful that you probably couldn't have imagined at that day at your son's daycare picking them up. [00:46:43] Jeanine: Absolutely. And I think, it's kind of the power of listening and that's one of the things I love so much about your podcast is being able to listen to the other stories that come from your guests and really, that you have the ability to tease out such a gift and clearly the path that you have followed has allowed you to be there too, in, that space of, [00:47:05] beauty and it's just, it's wonderful. [00:47:08] Danielle: Thank you. Thank you, Janine. Thank you so much. I'm going to bring us to a close 'cause we can't get any better. That was so, great. I will definitely encourage, again, for everybody listening to please visit the show notes before you click back into your life and take your AirPods out or, get off of your walk or wherever you are in life. [00:47:29] Like to hop over the show notes, check out city moms, follow them on social media. They make it very easy to find what you need to know, so all the places you can follow them. [00:47:37] But thank you again. Thank you. Thank you Janine. And, [00:47:40] Jeanine: Thank you so much for having me. [00:47:42] [00:47:42] [00:47:44] [00:48:52] [00:50:11] Thank you so much for joining me in this week's episode of Don't Cut Your Own Bangs. I hope that you enjoyed listening because I thoroughly enjoyed making it. Before you hop away, please check out the show notes, everything that we mentioned here in this conversation, as well as links that you can stay connected with me. As well as everything needed to connect with city moms. Please remember to rate and review and subscribe to the podcast. It helps the podcast grow. It helps other people find this that could benefit from it too. Thank you so much for being here. [00:50:37] Your attention means the world, and I hope you continue to have a wonderful day.
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Is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. Lesley Logan 0:16 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59 Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the worthwhile convo I had with Margot McNaull in our last episode. I mean, also like glitter, like sparkle, like legacy, worthiness, worthwhile in our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and listen to that one, then come back and listen this one, or listen to this one as a cliff notes, and then see if you like what we like, and listen to that one. You're gonna want to listen to it that's pretty cool. Okay, today. Brad Crowell 1:22 Actually, it's quite interesting. Lesley Logan 1:24 Oh yeah, it's a fun it was a fun episode. Who would have thought that we would have that episode but we did. Now, people like, what is the episode? Anyways. So today is, so today is July 24th 2025 and it's International Self-Care Day.Brad Crowell 1:44 Kind of poignant topic. Lesley Logan 1:45 Yeah, it really is. This is something I literally every single morning when I go on a walk. I shouldn't say every single morning, because, like with this sinus infection, if you haven't heard it yet, it'll pick up on it a little bit. I just don't think I look amazing in the morning, nor do I sound great. So I haven't been like all my you need to go on a walk. But if there's something I preach about every single day, it is self-care. So this is your day. This is your holiday. Brad Crowell 2:09 To buy yourself a ring. What? Lesley Logan 2:11 Yeah, what? Brad Crowell 2:11 What? Oh, I mean, it's your day to self-care.Lesley Logan 2:14 Self-Care, International Self-Care Day is celebrated on July 24th and I would actually call a getting yourself a ring, just like a reward and or something worth doing. But self-care is actually free usually. It stresses the importance of self-care as a cornerstone of wellness. On this day, individuals throughout the world are encouraged to make self-care as part of their day everyday routines entered into a priority is a milestone and an opportunity to raise further awareness of the benefits and effectiveness of self management of health. That's what self-care is, self-management of health. I love that. That is so great as opposed to like self-care isn't selfish care. Self-care, it's literally self-management of your fucking health. Oh, my God, my mind is blown. Self-care has always been incredibly important, but especially now, as people realize they need to take care of themselves and put themselves first. This has made people talk about and it increased the interest of others to take control of their health and wellness by prioritizing themselves. Today, we urge you to practice self-care, even if all you do is take a walk. Self-care, the reason I say it's mostly free because most of the things you can do for self-care is prioritize your sleep, your water intake, how you fuel yourself, that you that drunk food? Are you giving yourself food that makes you feel really awesome, giving yourself food that makes you feel like shit, right, every time? And I'm not saying food is good or bad, like when we have the Anthony episode, like we talked about that, but like, there are foods that aren't serving you, whether or not they're considered healthy or unhealthy, I don't care, whether they're not serving you. So are you fueling yourself, right? Are you surrounding yourself with people who make you feel better about yourself? That's self-care, right? Like, literally say no to a friend, an Eeyore friend, just throwback from last week, like or not, that's self-care, right? So maybe you have to put your phone on Do Not Disturb that's self-care. You know, so tons of things that are self-care, that are free. Spa days, not self-care. That is just something you get to do because it feels good and you deserve it. But it, to me.Brad Crowell 2:14 I like that distinction, because I think most of I mean for me too, I've thought about like, oh, self-care, I gotta go do something for myself, which means spending money. And it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. Lesley Logan 4:13 No, going for a walk around the block is self-care. Brad Crowell 4:21 Or, you know when, when you're feeling that afternoon slump, go do a handstand for four seconds at the wall and get some blood flow to your head. Yeah, that's self-care. You know, getting some vitamin D by sitting in the sun in the morning, that's self-care. Yeah. So doesn't have to involve spending money. All right. Well, here's what we got coming up. Agency Mini from Profitable Pilates just closed in the last couple of days. What an amazing event. I'm not gonna lie. Lesley Logan 4:46 It's a really great people. Brad Crowell 4:48 Well, I like that we changed it and it was shorter.Lesley Logan 4:51 Yeah. I mean, I think for everyone, because the biggest problem we have with and this is, like, why you know at the Be It Till You See It podcast, we talk about, like, you get better every time you do something. And so Agency Mini. Brad Crowell 5:03 It's our 11th time doing it, 11th. Lesley Logan 5:05 Yeah. It evolved. Every single time it evolved. And then the last three or four times, we're like, we have it dialed in. We have it nailed down. Everything is good. But the one piece of feedback that we used to get that we could never solve was like, the overwhelm. And we'd always tell people, don't take in everything, like, just take in what you need. But the problem is, is people have FOMO and we are perfectionist and, like. Brad Crowell 5:26 Don't worry. Agency isn't like Agency Mini. Agency Mini was chaos and, like, a whirlwind, and Agency actually, you know? But like, we still have to say that. So we were like, this is, there's, it's not aligned.Lesley Logan 5:36 Yeah, it's not aligned. So because of our new tools, we have in Agency, because of our new app, all these different things. Yeah, we have an app. It made it easier for us to make Agency Mini a mini version of Agency, without the overwhelm. And it was super fun to help people and now we have a bunch of Agency members, and it's just super great. So I'm excited for you guys. Can't wait to work with you guys, and we literally leave tomorrow. Brad Crowell 5:57 We're going on tour y'all. Lesley Logan 5:59 Are we leaving today? No, we leave now. Yeah, we're leaving today. Brad Crowell 6:03 Oh yeah, we're leaving tonight. You're totally right. I'd have 25th as the first class but, but we actually drive out tonight. Lesley Logan 6:11 Clearly, we recorded this early. We're on the road. Brad Crowell 6:14 We're on the road. No, no, we're not on the road just yet, because this drops in the morning, we'll be leaving tonight.Lesley Logan 6:14 They could be listening to it at night. So if you're listening tonight, we're on the road. So anyway, opc.me/tours, where you can get tickets because it's not too late, some cities are too late, but it's not too late to sign up. You can, as long as there's room you can sign up. And also, the Calgary stop is a virtual stop so.Brad Crowell 6:36 There are two virtual workshops in Calgary go to opc.me/calgary for that.Lesley Logan 6:40 Yeah, but opc.me/tours such tours, all 15 cities. It's really going quite amazing. We have three cities in Canada. Of course, Vancouver is way sold out. At the time recording this, Kamloops only has space in the workshop and not a lot. And Calgary has room in all of its goodness. I'm including the virtual spots. We did limit how many people could be at the virtual as well. So just because it's virtual doesn't mean everyone can attend. We we kept it quiet, kept it small, so you have a great experience. So go to opc.me/tour. Want to see you. And then we come home, unpack and change out the suitcases because now, and clean out the van. Brad Crowell 7:14 Because we're home for like, a week and a half. Lesley Logan 7:16 Week and a half, and then we go to the U.K. yeah, we're going to the U.K. Brad Crowell 7:22 Yeah we're gonna go to Scotland. Lesley Logan 7:26 We're gonna leave my dad in Scotland. We're gonna head down into the into Britain, and we're going to teach in Essex and Leeds in England, I guess. Brad Crowell 7:29 I mean I guess we'll call it Britain but I think Great Britain is all of it, and England is.Lesley Logan 7:34 You know, it's really quite complicated. It's really annoying. Let's say England is correct. You're absolutely right. I got little stuck. I was watching the Hamilton King George Sing a Song, and I think I just got stuck. You know, I love. It's one of the best songs. It's too bad it's about him. Yes, you'll be back. So anyways, so anyways, we'll go down into England. Excuse me, somehow I'm supposed to drive on the opposite side of the road that I'm used to, and we'll see how that goes. Brad Crowell 7:59 You're gonna do great, babe. Lesley Logan 8:06 Do great. No one. No turns, please. So we're gonna go to Essex. We have a Tuesday and a Wednesday workshop and workout situation going on. So go by day passes or two-day pass, you'll save money if it's two-day pass, and then we're gonna go up to Leeds. That's our second time in Leeds. We only have a couple spots left there. And then we're gonna hit back up to Scotland, grab my dad for his like, I don't know, adventures he's going on himself, and fly home.Brad Crowell 8:35 There's a coffee shop in Leeds that I'm very excited.Lesley Logan 8:38 Oh, the guy who makes a seven minute long latte. Brad Crowell 8:38 Yes, the guy. Lesley Logan 8:41 Yeah, the guy. Brad Crowell 8:42 I really hope he's still there. Lesley Logan 8:44 I think he is. According to Claire, he still is. Brad Crowell 8:47 Okay, good. Well, I'm very excited, because that's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 8:50 It is. Okay, you guys. Is one of the best lattes. It is the smallest cup I have ever seen. Have espresso and milk in it, and it.Brad Crowell 8:50 It's just like scientific coffee. Lesley Logan 8:58 It took them so long. I was like, I need a cup of coffee. Brad Crowell 9:00 He made one, tasted it and dumped it and started over for me. I was like, what was wrong with that one? He's like, it was, it didn't it didn't settle. It wasn't the right flavor. It was burnt, so whatever the heck it was he was like, no, I'm not serving you this.Lesley Logan 9:14 We're not even doing a great job, because we don't even know the name of the place. But you know what? If you come to Leeds, Brad will take you. Brad Crowell 9:22 I'll take you. Lesley Logan 9:22 Okay, so opc.me/uk, to snag your spots there. Then we come home. Our besties are visiting us from Florida. Yeah, we're gonna unpack the cold weather clothes we took and put hot weather clothes back in a suitcase and be in Cambodia. Oh, my God, I can't wait for the humidity to be on this skin after all of the Summer Tour and and U.K. like, no offense, but like, I I live for humidity. Like I am. Everyone's like, I love a dry heat. You have no idea what you're talking about. Humid heat is way better for your skin, for the youthfulness, for your hair. Everything is better. So crowsnestretreats.com if you would like to have humidity on your skin and spend time with us in an epic place, see the temples, come to our house, do Pilates. Brad Crowell 10:06 Take a break from all the chaos. Lesley Logan 10:07 Figure out your self-care routine. I will help you with that. I will help you bring out your dream schedule. Anyways, before we get into the amazing episode with Margot, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 10:18 We sure do, two questions, actually, from Caroline on IG, thank you, Caroline for asking. Number one is, hi, can you recommend a great pair of undies for Pilates or leggings? I read this before and forgot. I always notice a print when I get off my reformer. Lesley Logan 10:37 Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:37 Okay. Lesley Logan 10:38 Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:38 I can't, Caroline but, I know someone who can. Lesley Logan 10:42 Okay, we, remember when we got this question on YouTube. We're like, do we go live about this? I'm like, oh my God, what weirdos are gonna show up for the live? It's like, my favorite underwear for Pilates. So here's the thing. I like, EBY they're they have a type of of of underwear that is (inaudible). We have, right? We have a video.Brad Crowell 11:07 I didn't know how to find it, so I just went to YouTube and I searched Lesley Logan underwear, and the video comes up.Lesley Logan 11:13 Perfect, perfect, perfect. I wish they had millions of views. It probably doesn't, but anyways, so I like those because they're nice and thin under my leggings, so they don't leave a mark. Like when I'm walking around, you can't see my underwear, which is like a big deal to me. I don't know why we are obsessed with this, but I'm obsessed with people not seeing the outline of my underwear, probably from purity culture life. I have no idea. Anyways, the other reason I like it is if, ladies, you don't know this, but if your underwear covers your butt and then you put leggings on it, that is why you're losing your pants on stomach massage. So I like that also, you know the reason, another reason I like EBY is because I'm I am a sweater, and I don't really like when your like underwear doesn't keep you dry from and so otherwise, like your pants are wet, where your underwear is. I like my underwear keep me dry as much as possible, so that I have like, sweat, like on my thighs, but not in my crotch. So anyways, that's my favorite for that. Otherwise. Brad Crowell 12:12 What did you say it is? Lesley Logan 12:14 Think they're called EBY. Brad Crowell 12:15 And they're from. Lesley Logan 12:17 EBY underwear. Brad Crowell 12:18 Oh, that's the company. Lesley Logan 12:19 Yeah, yeah, it's EBY women seamless yeah, that's the one I like. Brad Crowell 12:24 All right, we're gonna put a link in the show notes for that.Lesley Logan 12:27 Yeah, yeah. So anyway, oh, they're having a sale. I should get some more. Brad Crowell 12:30 Thanks, Caroline. Lesley Logan 12:31 Thanks, Caroline. She had another question, though.Brad Crowell 12:34 Yes. Caroline had a second question. She said hey, do you have a shake plate that you recommend? Lesley Logan 12:40 I do. we'll put. Brad Crowell 12:41 I had a feeling,Lesley Logan 12:42 We'll put a link in the show notes, because I don't know the brand name, to be honest, but I love this thing I get on mine.Brad Crowell 12:51 It also wasn't, like, outrageously expensive. It wasn't nothing but it wasn't like a million dollars. Lesley Logan 12:51 It's like, it ranges from like, a little over 100 to about 150 and I think depends on the color or the time of year. But, like, honestly, it, it's something that, if I'm like, oh. Brad Crowell 13:08 Well, let's talk about what, what is a shake plate and why do you do it? Lesley Logan 13:12 Okay, so it kind of is a shake plate is kind of like a spin on the power plate. Power plate would be the brand and Power Plates I have experienced. Brad Crowell 13:19 Those big metal silver-looking ones that are, like, you know, two and a half feet wide. You can do a handstand on those. Lesley Logan 13:19 Oh, yeah, you can do some great stretches on those. My trainers at Equinox will, like, go here and do your pigeon stretch. And it, like, would really help with my running, help with my hips. I mean, I don't know all this. Here's thing, you guys, I don't know all the scientific facts are on it. But, like, I can say that Power Plates are really, really epic. And they can, like, turn your muscles on and off in such a way that it's like a full workout. In fact, in Vegas, there's a place called Vibe 28 that's literally workouts on a Power Plate. Brad Crowell 13:52 I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:52 And it's like they even do like, like a meditation class on them. So you like, just do different stretches on them. It's really quite cool. I will say they made me put a like, a band, a booty band, around my legs, and do squats on that thing. And I was like, oh my God, I thought I was in shape. No, no, no, no. It's like, what? It's like intense. And you that's, there's a reason why it's like only 28 minutes. You definitely don't want to work out longer than that. So it can be really effective but the reason I got one is because it can also be really good for lymphatic drainage, and it really good for balance and stability. And so I have my ankles are really hyper mobile, and my muscles around my knees have been really hard for me to, like turn on. And so I got one because you can just stand on it, and I swear, I swear it's doing something for lymphatic drainage, like my girlfriends and I just like, live by that. I have another girlfriend who, like, had some back stuff, and she just put it on, like, the lowest level and sat on it and her back felt better. So, like, that, that's amazing. So anyways, I get on mine, and I literally will, like, do Slack for 15 minutes, or I'll read a book. Yes, I can read a book while shaking. I'm also very tall. I could like my arms aren't shaking. The rest of me is. I play a video game on there. On my days where I don't want to work out, but I've got time on my hands, I get on there and I do it. Sometimes I just put my legs on it, and it feels really good. I have literally Googled multiple times, is standing on my shake plate at all beneficial? And the answer is yes. Now, of course, it's more beneficial if you do like a plank or a squat, but I play around my different foot positions, and my ankles are much more stable. My medial quad is actually turning on. I think it's been really fun for my lymphatic drainage around my center. So I love my shake plate. Big fan, yeah, total, yeah. So anyways, and it doesn't take a lot of space. One of my girlfriends lives in like, a tiny, like, studio apartment. My got one, and she's like, I do it twice a day, every day. So some of us now, like, do, like, we like, take pictures of ourselves send to each other, like, I'm on mine. Oh, I'm on mine. So now it's for like, a little club. Brad Crowell 16:00 That's funny. That's fun. I've even done it, too. I do enjoy it. It definitely first time you do it, you're gonna feel a little bit like, numb getting off of it afterwards. Don't turn it up that high your first time.Lesley Logan 16:12 There's programs and literally, start with the first program. And also a little side note that I would do, I was like, oh, every day I'm just gonna do the next program up. No, that is not how you get used to it. I recommend like doing program one for a few days and program two for a few days because I made my psoas so fucking sore, I had to stretch, so.Brad Crowell 16:12 Well, anyway, Caroline, we'll put that link in the show notes so you can check it out. Hey, look, if you have a question at all for anything, or about anything or whatever go to beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions and you can leave us a question or a win. So if you want to be featured on the FYFs for Friday's episodes.Lesley Logan 16:55 Your win could be that you bought yourself a shake plate and you did your first 15 minutes of self-care on it. Brad Crowell 17:01 All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk to talk about Margot McNaull in just a minute. Brad Crowell 17:09 All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Margot McNaull. Margot is the founder of Stór by Margot, a bespoke fine jewelry company born from her own journey of designing her engagement ring in India. With no formal background in jewelry design, she turned her natural eye and personal experience into a thriving business helping women create meaningful, deeply personal pieces today, her work centers around empowering women to own their worth, often through designing their own legacy jewelry that tells their story, and that's what most of the episode was actually about. Was about worth and worthiness, and, you know why you would buy a ring for yourself, and conversations that happen in the home, you know, in a family, usually a married couple. You know, it was interesting. It was interesting. I, you know, I, I thought, I don't know. I've never really, I'm not really the guy that's out there trying to buy myself a ring, but if I wanted to buy a ring, I would probably save up the money and go buy the ring. But that's not how the conversation traditionally goes. Lesley Logan 18:14 No. I mean, also, like, even while the ring, that the beautiful ring I have, I literally told someone to tell you. Brad Crowell 18:20 I have no idea what you just said. Lesley Logan 18:24 My engagement ring that you got me, I made sure people in my life knew what I wanted, because we well, because you had said, don't talk to me about getting married. So I was like, well, how am I going to tell him about the ring I want if I don't can't talk about getting married. So I just made sure all of my friends who you knew knew which ring I wanted. Brad Crowell 18:40 I don't remember that that's how the story went.Lesley Logan 18:42 No. The story goes, you asked my friend for my ring size. He said, oh, I can tell you what ring she wants. Brad Crowell 18:46 Yes, because he had it from, like, a year before.Lesley Logan 18:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was before, yeah. So anyways, I knew what I wanted. The point is, around here, we just buy that ourselves, the thing we want, but I do have tons of friends who won't put a ring on their their wedding ring finger, because they that's saving of her then. Or they, they they want something, but then they they compromise, or they don't have the it's a whole thing. And so she's just a big person like, buy the thing that you want and buy the ring that you want, and that because you're worthy of it, and not waiting for a partner or waiting for external people to tell other people outside of you, to tell you what what ring you should have, or what you're worth, or things like that. I think it's really cool. And I also she said she was observing that women often struggle to buy fine jewelry for themselves, not because of money, but because they don't feel like they're worthy of it. Because, like you said, I would just save up the money and go get it. A lot of people will save up the money and then feel bad about like that. They're not like, oh, I shouldn't have spent all that money on that thing this, like, like.Brad Crowell 19:47 I mean, I get that, you know. Like, I definitely understand that, you know, I saved up money for a pair of glasses that I was like, wow, these are really expensive, and I literally wear them every day now, and I'm like, proud of myself for doing it.Lesley Logan 19:59 Yeah, don't you feel you feel good. Brad Crowell 20:01 I like them. Lesley Logan 20:01 Yeah. I mean, I love our car. It feels really cool to be in that car. I feel very worthy of that car, you know, like, now we had to save up for it. We have to wait, like, it's it was an expense, but, like, I think.Brad Crowell 20:12 We waited 10 fucking years. Lesley Logan 20:14 I fucking did, yeah, I did, but I, I wanted to have her on because I actually feel like we have a lot of listeners who are that person who has, has saved up the money, or does have it and and maybe feels a little guilty, like, oh, I shouldn't be spending on me. It should be spent on the kids, or I should be I should be doing X, or should be doing y. And it's like, you know, if you saved up that money one time, you probably could do it again, and you could probably spend it on them then that time. But so she she reflects on her own deeper journey, and that she even like while she was running her business, she was going through her own journey of self-doubt and realizing of self-worth. And so she had to go into it and realize, where do I feel like how do I feel about my worth? And so I also thought that this is really cool, because oftentimes it doesn't have to do with the ring. If you don't feel worthy, it's going to translate in other areas of your life.Brad Crowell 21:03 Yeah. And had nothing to do with the ring, nothing to do with the ring. Well, you know, when she's talking about, I think the conclusion of the worthy conversation was, it was it was an interesting back and forth between you and her about your experience working in retail and jewelry and seeing how couples would come in, and obviously they influence each other, but not just couples, like, friends, and then the person who wanted the, the one was doing the shopping would be influenced by the friend, and maybe the thing like and the friend might not have self-worth. So then they're, you know, projecting their insecurity on the decision-making process. And it could talk someone out of doing something that they were trying to do for themselves. And so what I thought was neat about her thing was she said, you know, the only person that's gonna make you feel worthy is you, yeah, that's interesting, but it also makes me, you know, like, is there an exercise? How do we do that? How do we feel worthy? How do we help ourselves feel worthy? Lesley Logan 21:52 I think that's a really interesting question. I think, like, also part of it is going back to, like a Nikole Mitchell, you know, like it's like putting Post-Its around your your your house, like, I am worthy of liking things. I am worthy of having this. I am worthy of reaching the goals that I want to have. Like it doesn't have to be I'm worthy of the stuff I want to buy, put it on. I'm worthy of get seven hours of sleep. I'm worthy of 100 grams of protein. I'm worthy of saying no to people coming over on a Tuesday night. I'm worthy of my time. So start with there.Brad Crowell 22:49 So we're not having dinner with them? Just kidding. Lesley Logan 22:50 Yeah. But like, I think, I think it comes from actually saying it out loud and saying it around things you can't have cognitive dissonance around. So like, if buying yourself expensive sunglasses or car or whatever is feels a dissonance to you, you have stuff that you still have to unpack and work through, then start with something smaller. I'm worthy of eight glasses of water a day, right? I am worthy.Brad Crowell 23:18 Or I'm worthy of a pay raise. You know, like, this is actually, you know, one of the things that that I really that resonated a lot with me is a topic that I get the chance to talk about a lot, which is money, right, and money when, especially with Pilates instructors, there's this weird stigma that Pilates is expensive, so you must be taking advantage of people when you're teaching. And then we shame ourselves into being like, oh, you know, I only teach a few hours a week, you know, so it's not that much money I'm making. And we have this weird, upside down perspective of, you know, the industry that we're in, the people that we serve, what we're doing, how much time and money we invested in getting trained, all this stuff, and then we adopt this, this like, strange mindset around the income that we're making, yeah, and so I've had this really interesting opportunity over the last year to talk about money on a consistent basis through a webinar that I've been hosting. And, you know, unabashedly talk about the desire to get more money, to make more money, and and but not be weird about it, right? We're not out there, like, championing, like, money for the sake of money. That's not the point. One of the things that I've really enjoyed is, in this the webinar is actually future-casting. Right? So taking a moment closing our eyes and actually thinking down the road, right? When we talk about money in these webinars, I actually talk about something that's like, scarily, like, almost like, it feels scary to even be willing to dream about it. It's about doubling your money, doubling your income. So, like, let's say you're making $35,000 a year. Could you make $70,000 a year with Pilates, you know? And. And the answer is, yes, you could. But why? Why would you want to do that, right? And I think the glib and obvious answer is, because I can get more money. But that's not the point. The point is, what are you going to do with that money? And then what are we doing with that? Like, how is that helping us shift our life to be better and more enjoyable? Easier, like, we it puts us in a position to go do something else that we want to do.Lesley Logan 25:25 Yeah, I mean, like, because, if you I mean to go back to that, the worthiness of it's like, okay, I want to make $70,000 because, but why? So I want to be able to pay for my kid to go to summer camp. I want to be able to have money in savings. I want to be able to do X, Y and Z. I want to donate to this thing. I want to do this thing right. Okay, so then it's not that. Brad Crowell 25:48 Or even it could be I want to create a life for myself that allows me a breather, a break, so I don't have to be going 90 miles an hour.Lesley Logan 25:58 And I think if we were all to say I am worthy of having a life that gives me a break. What selfish is about that? So, like. Brad Crowell 26:06 In the same vein, you know, let's translate that over to buying things. Yeah, why do we buy things, right? Why do we buy a nice car? Why do we, you know, I don't know, put in a pool? Why do we buy fancy sunglasses that cost $500 you know, which seems like absurd, you can buy a same pair of sunglasses for $12. Why do we do that? Like, like, how do we do that and justify that without, you know, feeling like an asshole, right? Lesley Logan 26:33 Well, I think the interesting word there is justify. I don't think anyone I think that.Brad Crowell 26:37 Well, there's a story we tell ourselves in our head, right? And I think that it's like, if, especially if we don't feel worthy of it, then we're justified, then we're justified.Lesley Logan 26:45 Yeah. But if you feel worthy, you don't have to justify anything, because it's it goes to the person who goes, oh, it must be nice. And the response, the only response, to it must be nice is it really is. It is. Thank you. It is because we have to. We, that has been trained into people for years and years to keep you poor. That's what it is every time someone has told their kids that money doesn't grow on trees, putting the same as point earned, you know, you, like, the justification of things that is to keep youth playing small. If you play small, then there, then the rich can keep getting richer off of you playing small, of you not demanding the pay raise, of you not charging your actual worth. Because, by the way, for the Pilates instructors who are listening, I just had a huge talk on both an AR Agency office hours and the next day instead of eLevate and I was like, on a pedestal, I couldn't get off of it. And I was like, y'all have to have some courage and conviction. Like most of the problems that this goes for anyone you don't have to be a Pilates instructor, is you don't realize all the hours you haven't sat down and counted all the hours of all the time you spent learning what you do, train on what you do, practicing what you do, teaching what you do. And you're thinking, oh, I'm pricing something for the 55 minutes I'm teaching them. No, you're not. That price is based on your entire past building up to it. And by the way, the future you're giving them, that's what that session, that the present that they're paying for, it's for your expertise and what they get in the future. And I think that's where worthiness comes in, is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. This has to come from inside you, and it has and and the external stuff and the ring or the car, whatever. That's later, because some people like material things and some people don't. According to my astrology signs, I like material things, and I don't disagree with that.Brad Crowell 28:51 I could have told you that the day I met you. Yeah, but, but honestly, that's the thing. Here's the thing, it's okay to like material things. It's okay. We're allowed to do it. I don't know, you know, we feel guilty about it because of, for me, it was the way I was raised. Right? Is, is that, you know, the the money mindset element of it, and so, like, buying something really expensive was always out of the question. It was never even considered, right, ever, but, but like with, with the ring, like, if you want, if it's like, something that is going that means something to you, it's kind of like we were talking about tattoos, right. Like, if, if there is a sentimental association with it, you know, and you it's a goal you achieved in your life. Like, we've, we've, we've a friend we've mentioned before, when she wins a case, she buys a purse, or she buys the glasses, or she buys the thing, and she says, you know? And here's ironically, ironically, her dad not shaming him, but his response is always like, you still spent the money to buy the thing. Lesley Logan 29:56 And also, she doesn't get a pay raise when she wins. Brad Crowell 29:56 Right. It's not like she's getting a pay raise. Lesley Logan 29:57 No, she get the same amount whether she wins or loses.Brad Crowell 30:01 She, like, she's like, when I when this case goes, when it when the case concludes, then I get to buy the thing, right. And I think it's great. They're like, they're like, milestones of her life, you know.Lesley Logan 30:12 Yeah, yeah. I really agree. And I just want to, like, go on this one thing when it comes to some of the material possessions, especially a piece of jewelry that is something that one you wearing every day, so it's a physical reminder of of why you thought you're worthy of that. And then two, and Margot talked about this, you do often give it to someone, like, we don't have children, but I imagine Ella will like all of my jewelry. If Meredith has a daughter, we'll have to figure it out. But like, I imagine that like our niece Ella, she likes to wear pretty princess stuff. I imagine she'll like my things.Brad Crowell 30:51 I'm sure she will. Well, thanks for going down that journey with us here. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some Be It Action Items that you discussed with Margot McNaull. Brad Crowell 30:58 All right here let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Margot McNaull? Don't give up on yourself, she said, right? To go through what you need to go through, to go through to be that strong, that's successful, that whatever you have to go through some pretty dark valleys, right? It's not just like it's just kind of inherently built into life. We all know this, right? But don't give up. Don't give up on yourself. She said, look at things in a way that other people maybe they don't want to. It's easier not to dig into these things, to look at these things, then you're gonna, you're gonna come out. And if you, if you, if you give up, right, you're gonna come out with a less powerful message, okay, let's put some actual context into what this vagueness that we're talking about here, don't give up on yourself, right? If you, you're allowed to fail, okay, but if you fail, let's keep going. So for example, maybe it is going to bed earlier or just getting up earlier, or maybe it is, you know, eating food, that is, you know, like, maybe you may always skip breakfast, and you're like, I want us to eat breakfast because I know it's going to jump start my metabolism, whatever, right, you know, like, like, okay, like, how do we how do we do this? How do we actually make this habit, create this habit? And we could talk about habit-building later, but, you know, it doesn't have to be this huge, epic goal. It can be these smaller things, and that's such a great place to start to build that, that habit. Lesley Logan 32:33 Yeah. And if you miss a day, it's not failure. You start, you drink, eat your breakfast later, start again. Celebrate that you thought about it. Brad Crowell 32:41 Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 32:42 Okay, so this is really cool. This made me think of Joanna, whose last name is escaping me, but she was in the second year the podcast was out, and she had to be an action about wearing the shoes, just like buy the shoes.Brad Crowell 32:55 Johanna White. Johanna White. Episode 171.Lesley Logan 33:00 Nailed it. She always said, buy the shoes and wear them, right? And so this particular Be It Action Item makes me think of that. She said, you can take your old jewelry and have it revamped and have it transformed and and sometimes that's like the permission that a lot of us need. It's like, oh, we're not buying a new thing because we have these old things, but we're not wearing the old things. Are we not as proud of old things? And you can actually just revamp the old things and now it's new again. And so if you have an old an old thing, you know, like, consider revamping it because you are worthy of it, yeah.Brad Crowell 33:35 Or maybe it was at a family heirloom that's like, you know, cool and amazing and sentimental, but not hip and fun and funky that you'd wear all the time. Maybe you could have something tweaked on that, and it would all sudden fit your personality today. So love that you have our permission to make changes to things.Lesley Logan 33:53 And walk around. I am worthy of, I'm worthy of, I'm worthy of, fill in the blank for yourself. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:58 And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:59 Thank you so much for listening to our amazing podcast. Yes, I said our podcast is amazing because it fucking is. Brad Crowell 34:05 We're worthy of it being amazing. Lesley Logan 34:06 I'm so proud of it. This is episode 554, you guys. Holy mackerel. So do me a huge favor and share one of your favorite episodes with a friend who needs to hear it. It's how this podcast gets out. It means the world to me. It is the like a great gift to me and Brad. And a review goes a long way, because words of affirmation are my love language. So I've asked for two things. Thank you so much, asked for three, actually. And you know, just do one of them. You don't have to be an overachiever. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:36 Bye for now.Lesley Logan 34:38 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 35:20 It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 35:25 It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 35:30 Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 35:37 Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 35:40 Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
This week, we're joined by Chris McMillan, the iconic celebrity hairstylist behind Jennifer Aniston's legendary "Rachel" haircut and the inspiration for Leslie Bibb's "C*nty Little Bob" in The White Lotus season three – *the* cut of 2025 hair trends. With over four decades of shaping Hollywood's most famous hairstyles, Chris spills all on this exclusive podcast interview.Get the inside scoop on his highly anticipated, eponymous Chris McMillan haircare range, launching mid-August at Sephora! Plus, brace yourself for incredible real-life stories of drugs, glamour, car chases, and more from the beauty world. For the full experience, Watch our chat on YouTube! Don't miss this deep dive into celebrity hair secrets and the mind of a true hair fashion icon.You'll hear about:Chris' sobriety journey – how the hairstylist started by jetsetting around the globe, delivering the most risqué, headline-making haircuts to car chases with the police before making his beauty industry comeback in his early careerHow “The Rachel” haircut helped put Chris on the map, and how his relationship with Jennifer Aniston has stood the test of timeEverything to know about the “C*nty Little Bob” he cut for White Lotus star Leslie Bibb, and how to make the cut of 2025 work no matter your face shapeFirst details about Chris' upcoming, eponymous haircare line, like where his inspiration came for the esthetic and what he's seeking to accomplish now in the fourth decade of his legendary career
If you've ever Googled “how to recover from burnout,” you've probably seen advice like: take a bubble bath, light a candle, go for a walk. And while there's nothing wrong with those things, I want to be honest with you: for women 35+, especially those navigating perimenopause, motherhood, careers, and caregiving… burnout goes a lot deeper. This is a real-talk reset. Let's break down what burnout recovery actually looks like and also what it's looked like for me this summer. Where to connect with Andrea Website: https://andreaclaassen.com/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/seasonalandrea Perimenopause Support Quiz: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/681d3069f79fde0015c88d8c Wise Woman Reset: https://andreaclaassen.com/wisewomanreset Andrea Claassen Bio Andrea Claassen is an Ayurvedic Wellness Counselor, RYT 500 hour yoga teacher, and personal trainer who has been in the wellness space since 2007. She specializes in cyclical living. Her mission is to help women learn how to slow down, tune in and connect to their inner wisdom. The three pillars she focuses on are movement, mindfulness & mother nature through an Ayurvedic lens. You can hear more from Andrea on her Peaceful Power Podcast where she aims to deliver actionable takeaways for you to live a more holistic lifestyle. Connect with Andrea on her website at www.andreaclaassen.com
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In this episode, I'm joined by world-traveling chef, author, and storyteller Shannon Smith—creator of The Hidden Table—for a soul-stirring journey through food, culture, and the power of saying yes to curiosity.But don't expect a list of top restaurants or travel hacks.From hidden kitchens in Morocco to salt pans in Mexico, Shannon opens up about what it means to connect with humanity—one conversation, one handmade dish, one unexpected invitation at a time.We explore how embracing spontaneity, discomfort, and unfamiliar flavors can transform your travels—and yourself—and why some of life's richest experiences can't be Googled.✨ Inside This Episode:How Shannon went from seamstress to global chef in her 40sThe mindset shift that helped her unlock deeper travel connectionsStories behind the hidden tables that shaped her new cookbookWhy culinary travel is about people—not just platesWhat she's learned from women entrepreneurs around the worldHer approach to flexible, curiosity-led travel (no itinerary required)How she empowers women through teaching skills like cooking, sewing, and jewelry-makingA powerful reminder that your next chapter can start any decade
Bobby shares his thoughts on the Emmy nominations and answers the Top 10 most googled questions about him. Bobby NEVER gets road rage...until yesterday when a woman set him off. What she did was so bad he wanted to hunt her down. Bobby debuts his new AI assistant that has us questioning his intentions with what he does in his free time with it. We dove into the crazy story of a 55-year old man who eloped with his son’s fiancé. We talked about dating men with hot jobs. Plus, Bobby ran through voicemails and gets Abby to share advice on what to do when someone says ‘I love you’ very early.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In this episode of the Damn Good Marketing Podcast, host Shelby Clement gets real with business attorney and Arena Collective co-founder, Becky, about the legal essentials that most entrepreneurs completely skip until it's too late.From forming your LLC to writing legit contracts (not the ones you Googled), to hiring employees and handling client disputes, this episode is packed with honest advice, funny moments, and straight-up legal game.Whether you're a small-town entrepreneur, agency owner, coach, or content creator — if you've ever said “I'll handle the legal stuff later,” this episode is your wake-up call.
You want to be someone who can rest without guilt. Someone who can be present, have fun, enjoy the moment, but it feels hard. Like another thing on your to-do list. In this episode, we unpack why things like rest, play, and downtime feel so exhausting when they're supposed to feel good. I walk you through why it's not about laziness or being “too Type A”… it's about safety. Nervous system safety. And if you've ever thought, “I know I'm allowed to relax… but I just can't let myself,” this one's for you!! Instagram Post Referenced Action Steps: Name the thing you wish you let yourself enjoy more. “Something I wish I let myself enjoy more is…” Notice the fear behind it. “What am I afraid will happen if I actually let myself enjoy this?” This could be fear of being lazy, losing control, being judged, or not being good enough. Shift from ‘allowed to' → ‘letting myself.' Say it out loud: “I'm not just allowed to enjoy ____. I'm letting myself enjoy it.” This is the difference between knowing something and actually practicing it. Start with five minutes. Choose one low-pressure moment this week to practice letting yourself enjoy that one thin, even for just five minutes. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Fun feels exhausting 01:45 – It's not your personality, it's your nervous system 03:00 – When enjoyment becomes another task 05:00 – You don't need more hacks, you need safety 06:30 – You've Googled how to be more fun + here's what's missing 08:00 – You don't want more, you want less 10:00 – My therapist asked if I had any hobbies 12:20 – What are you afraid will happen if you stop proving yourself? 14:00 – Your body doesn't speak logic, it speaks survival 15:00 – Rest feels like danger when your worth is tied to doing 16:00 – Allowing vs. letting: the energy difference 18:30 – Why joy and pleasure aren't wastes of time 19:45 – Escaping your life through food, work, or distraction 21:00 – You don't need more fixing, you need more understanding 22:00 – The 5-minute challenge 23:00 – Practice now for ease later 24:30 – Let yourself enjoy one thing, just a little more BINGE EATING UNCHAINED The last program you'll need to stop binge eating. Enroll here! THE PERSPECTIVE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 14k+ read my free newsletter The Perspective Shift: a weekly(ish) newsletter that challenges ideas on what it means to live a simply full life. Subscribe here! SOCIALS
"We're just not compatible." "Why is marriage this hard?" "I keep getting the ick every time he does that thing." "Maybe I married the wrong person." You didn't think it would feel like this. The silence. The tension. The resentment that creeps in even when he's just breathing. You're not dramatic. You're not broken. But something isn't right — and no one prepared you for what happens when the story in your head about your marriage starts to shift. You've Googled it. You've tried to talk about it. You've done everything “right”… and still feel more alone than ever. This episode isn't about blaming anyone — not you, not him. It's about one shift — a new perspective you've likely never heard put this way — that might completely reframe the story you've been telling yourself… and give you a way back to what you've been aching for. Listen to the end. It changes everything.
Ever feel like you're crushing it in session but completely lost when it comes to your practice's finances? You're not alone—and you're definitely not broken. In this episode of The Practice of Therapy, Andrea Rotondo is here to pull back the curtain on the real reason so many therapists avoid their numbers (spoiler: it's not laziness), and how to stop letting fear and overwhelm run the show. If QuickBooks makes you want to cry, if you've ever Googled “what is a P&L?” at midnight, or if you just want to feel a little more confident talking to your accountant, this conversation is for you. Andrea's down-to-earth, practical, and totally non-judgy approach will help you stop avoiding and start owning your role as the CEO of your practice, without needing a finance degree or a personality transplant. Trust us: this is the pep talk your bank account has been waiting for. 5 Things You'll Learn in This Episode: Why avoiding your numbers only makes them scarier How to start small and build financial confidence over time The must-have systems for solo and group practices How to make your financial tools actually work for you Why understanding your P&L is key to planning your life, not just your taxes Resources Mentioned In This Episode Use the promo code “GORDON” to get 2 months of Therapy Notes free Consulting with Gordon The PsychCraft Network Meet Andrea Rotondo I founded Liquid Cents Bookkeeping to help therapy practice owners simplify their financial systems and rebuild QuickBooks, so cash flow finally makes sense. With a background in psychology, military life, and being an immigrant, I understand the challenges of stepping into business ownership. My passion is helping therapists like you build financial clarity and stability—so you can focus on your clients, knowing your practice's finances support your goals. Website LinkedIn
Are you a busy Christian woman trying to stay healthy, lose weight, and honor God with your body—but you're caught in the spiral of calorie tracking, guilt, and exhaustion? This episode will bring relief. Shaela Daugherty, Christian Fitness Coach and Precision Nutrition expert, shares her personal story of disordered eating masked as discipline—and explains why tracking every calorie might be doing more harm than good. What you'll learn in this episode: 5 science-backed reasons calorie tracking may not work for your goals Why food labels, apps, and calculators often give false data How obsessing over numbers can steal your peace and spiritual focus A biblical mindset shift to break free from food control and walk in health What to do next if you want to fuel your body well without fear If you've ever Googled “how to lose weight fast,” “macros meal plan,” or “how many calories should I eat,” this episode will give you a deeper, grace-filled way forward.
The James Craig Case - 5 Shocking Truths Of Alleged Killer Dentist James Craig was a respected Colorado dentist, a family man, and a churchgoing father of six. But in March 2023, his wife Angela Craig was rushed to the hospital with mysterious symptoms. Three days later, she was dead—and James Craig was under arrest for her murder. In this gripping episode, we unpack the bizarre and disturbing case of James Craig, who is accused of poisoning his wife with arsenic and potassium cyanide… delivered through her protein shake. Investigators say he Googled “how much arsenic to kill a human,” ordered the poison to his office, and tried multiple times to finish the job—even while she was hospitalized. All while allegedly maintaining a secret affair with a Texas orthodontist. But the chaos didn't stop with the arrest. Craig's murder trial has been delayed repeatedly due to courtroom absurdities, including a defense attorney quitting the night before trial—claiming Craig asked him to do something illegal—and another lawyer getting arrested for arson. Yes, really. Even more shocking? Prosecutors allege that while in jail, Craig attempted to orchestrate a murder-for-hire plot against the lead detective—and tried to plant fake suicide letters to bolster his defense. With jury selection now underway in July 2025, this may be one of the most outrageous true crime stories in recent history. Join us as we explore the twisted details of the case, the evidence, the attempted cover-ups, and what this trial means for justice and trust in the people closest to us. If you thought suburban life was safe, think again. Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
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The James Craig Case - 5 Shocking Truths Of Alleged Killer Dentist James Craig was a respected Colorado dentist, a family man, and a churchgoing father of six. But in March 2023, his wife Angela Craig was rushed to the hospital with mysterious symptoms. Three days later, she was dead—and James Craig was under arrest for her murder. In this gripping episode, we unpack the bizarre and disturbing case of James Craig, who is accused of poisoning his wife with arsenic and potassium cyanide… delivered through her protein shake. Investigators say he Googled “how much arsenic to kill a human,” ordered the poison to his office, and tried multiple times to finish the job—even while she was hospitalized. All while allegedly maintaining a secret affair with a Texas orthodontist. But the chaos didn't stop with the arrest. Craig's murder trial has been delayed repeatedly due to courtroom absurdities, including a defense attorney quitting the night before trial—claiming Craig asked him to do something illegal—and another lawyer getting arrested for arson. Yes, really. Even more shocking? Prosecutors allege that while in jail, Craig attempted to orchestrate a murder-for-hire plot against the lead detective—and tried to plant fake suicide letters to bolster his defense. With jury selection now underway in July 2025, this may be one of the most outrageous true crime stories in recent history. Join us as we explore the twisted details of the case, the evidence, the attempted cover-ups, and what this trial means for justice and trust in the people closest to us. If you thought suburban life was safe, think again. Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
The James Craig Case - 5 Shocking Truths Of Alleged Killer Dentist James Craig was a respected Colorado dentist, a family man, and a churchgoing father of six. But in March 2023, his wife Angela Craig was rushed to the hospital with mysterious symptoms. Three days later, she was dead—and James Craig was under arrest for her murder. In this gripping episode, we unpack the bizarre and disturbing case of James Craig, who is accused of poisoning his wife with arsenic and potassium cyanide… delivered through her protein shake. Investigators say he Googled “how much arsenic to kill a human,” ordered the poison to his office, and tried multiple times to finish the job—even while she was hospitalized. All while allegedly maintaining a secret affair with a Texas orthodontist. But the chaos didn't stop with the arrest. Craig's murder trial has been delayed repeatedly due to courtroom absurdities, including a defense attorney quitting the night before trial—claiming Craig asked him to do something illegal—and another lawyer getting arrested for arson. Yes, really. Even more shocking? Prosecutors allege that while in jail, Craig attempted to orchestrate a murder-for-hire plot against the lead detective—and tried to plant fake suicide letters to bolster his defense. With jury selection now underway in July 2025, this may be one of the most outrageous true crime stories in recent history. Join us as we explore the twisted details of the case, the evidence, the attempted cover-ups, and what this trial means for justice and trust in the people closest to us. If you thought suburban life was safe, think again. Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
#196: Josie is breaking down what detoxing really means—and it's not what the wellness industry has told you. This episode flips the script on detox culture and gives you the real science (in a totally relatable way) on how your body already knows how to detox on its own. Josie debunks common myths, explains how toxins affect your body, and shares the exact steps she uses to support her detox systems—think simple habits that leave you feeling energized, clear, and like your best self this summer (no overpriced powders required). Josie also shares her daily routine when her body needs a little extra detox support, and the recipes and supplements she goes to after a holiday weekend or vacation. If you've ever felt guilty for enjoying an ice cream or hot dog or panicked Googled “detox plan” on a Sunday night, this episode is for you.This episode is also brought to you by OSEAHead to OSEAMalibu.com and use code "THEEVERYGIRL" for 10% off your order.For Detailed Show Notes visit theeverygirlpodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of Dishing Up Nutrition, Britni and Kara tackle the most-Googled calcium questions: What are the best food sources? How do you know if you're deficient? Are your supplements actually helping — or hurting? They also dig into surprising calcium connections to PMS, sleep, heart health, and even dairy sensitivity. If you've ever been confused about calcium, this is the practical, myth-busting episode you've been waiting for!
You know that weird, stuck feeling where everything in your life technically looks fine, but deep down, it just isn't? Maybe you're questioning your career, your friendships, your relationship… or even who you are. You've checked the boxes. You've followed the rules. But you're still thinking, “Is this it?” If any of that sounds familiar, you are not alone. And today's guests? They're here to hand you the manual they wish they had a decade ago. Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik are the co-hosts of Almost 30, one of the top wellness and personal growth podcasts out there. And now they're launching their book, Almost 30: A Definitive Guide to a Life You Love for the Next Decade and Beyond. It's everything they wish someone had told them during that messy middle between your twenties and thirties! This episode is for you if you've ever asked, “What am I doing with my life?” or Googled “how to be an adult” more than once. Click play to learn what a “Saturn Return” is, how to navigate identity crises, friendship breakups, realignment without shame, and how to embrace the chaos without losing yourself in it. Goal Digger Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/goaldiggerpodcast/ Goal Digger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goaldiggerpodcast/ Goal Digger Show Notes: https://jennakutcherblog.com/almost-30-podcast-hosts-share-saturn-return-soul-lessons Thanks to our Goal Digger Sponsors: Get $25 off your first purchase at http://therealreal.com/goaldigger. Sign up for your $1/month Shopify trial period at http://shopify.com/goaldigger. Find a co-host today at http://airbnb.com/host. Move deals faster with an AI powered CRM your team will actually use. Visit https://monday.com/crm to learn more. Deposit or spend $5,000 in 90 days to earn up to $500 in rewards at mercury.com/goal. Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC. The IO Card is issued by Patriot Bank, Member FDIC, pursuant to a license from Mastercard. Working capital loans provided by Mercury Lending, LLC NMLS ID: 2606284.