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In the third season of Blindspot, host Kai Wright investigates how the domestic HIV/AIDS epidemic affected vulnerable communities, and those often left out of the conversation. Reporter Lizzy Ratner, who conducted several interviews for the podcast, joins us to discuss the new season alongside artist Kia LaBeija and Terry McGovern, lawyer, activist, and senior associate dean in the CUNY School of Public Health. Both Kia and Terry are featured in the series. Episodes of Blindspot: The Plague in the Shadows are out now.   A companion photography exhibit by Kia LaBeija featuring portraits from the series is also on view at The Greene Space through March 11.

From the very earliest days of the epidemic, women got infected with HIV and died from AIDS — just like men. But from the earliest days, this undeniable fact was largely ignored — by the public, the government and even the medical establishment. The consequences of this blindspot were profound. Many women didn't know they could get HIV.But in the late 1980s, something remarkable happened. At a maximum security prison in upstate New York, a group of women came together to fight the terror and stigma that was swirling in the prison as more and more women got sick with HIV and AIDS. Katrina Haslip was one of them. An observant Muslim and former sex worker, she helped found and create AIDS Counseling and Education (ACE), one of the country's first HIV and AIDS organizations for women. And when she got out of prison, she kept up the work: she joined forces with women activists on the outside to be seen, heard and treated with dignity. This is her story — and the story of scores of women like her who fought to change the very definition of AIDS.Voices in this episode include:• Katrina Haslip was an AIDS activist who was born in Niagara Falls, New York. She spent five years at the Bedford Hills Correctional Center, during which time she served as a prison law librarian and helped found the organization AIDS Counseling and Education (ACE). After her release in 1990, she continued her advocacy through ACE-Out, an organization she formed to support women leaving prison, as well as ACT UP and other organizations.• Judith Clark spent 37 years in prison for her role in the October 1981 Brink's robbery. In prison, she helped found AIDS Counseling and Education (ACE), along with other programs to support and counsel women. Since her release in 2019, she has continued to work on behalf of incarcerated and formerly incarcerated women.• Maxine Wolfe was a member of the women's committee of ACT UP. Wolfe is an American author, scholar and activist for AIDS, civil rights, lesbian rights and reproductive rights. She is a co-founder of the Lesbian Avengers, a coordinator at the Lesbian Herstory Archives, and a member of Queer Nation. Wolfe is currently professor emerita of women's and gender studies at the Graduate Center, CUNY.• Terry McGovern is a lawyer and senior associate dean for academic and student affairs in the CUNY Graduate School of Public Health and Health Policy. In 1989, McGovern founded the HIV Law Project and served as the executive director until 1999. Her successful lawsuit against the Social Security Administration enabled scores of women with AIDS to receive government benefits.• Dr. Kathy Anastos is a professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Anastos's work advances HIV and AIDS research and treatment, both globally and in the Bronx. She has been the principal investigator of the New York City/Bronx Consortium of the Women's Interagency HIV Study (WIHS) since it was launched in 1993.This episode title comes from a Gran Fury poster. Gran Fury was an artist collective that worked in collaboration with ACT UP and created public art in response to the HIV and AIDS epidemic.Resources: "The Invisible Epidemic: The Story of Women And AIDS" by Gena Corea.Blindspot is a co-production of The HISTORY® Channel and WNYC Studios, in collaboration with The Nation Magazine.A companion photography exhibit by Kia LaBeija featuring portraits from the series is on view through March 11 at The Greene Space at WNYC. The photography for Blindspot was supported by a grant from the Economic Hardship Reporting Project, a nonprofit organization that promotes coverage of social inequality and economic justice.

This human-rights lawyer, a professor at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health, was reluctant to embrace her Irish heritage. “I was never particularly interested in that identity because I had so many run-ins with the church.” She's come around. Music: Cleek Schrey.

In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Terry McGovern, Harriet and Robert H. Heilbrunn Professor and Chair of the Heilbrunn Department of Population and Family Health and the Director of the Program on Global Health Justice and Governance at the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health.  They discuss the ramifications of the reversal of the Roe V. Wade Supreme Court decision on college campuses. The conversation includes the ripple effect of this controversial decision of SCOTUS on education, women's health and the economy, the possible legal considerations colleges need to be aware of and act on to accommodate the ruling, and what parents and college students can to adjust to the shifting context of abortion in the U.S. today. Show Notes: (01:07) A healthy discussion about the consequences of the recent reversal of the Supreme Court decision on Roe vs. Wade on college campuses (02:29) Making abortion illegal will not lessen its occurence; it will increase maternal death  (03:22) How the criminalization of abortion further endangers women in college who are already at an elevated risk for sexual violence  (03:54) Adding fear into an already costly medical procedure for women in college (05:17) The role religion plays in universities, the new abortion ban, and women's health (06:56) Why parents and female students need to reconsider their universities based on where they stand on the abortion verdict  (08:32) Why Dobbs should not affect women's access to Plan B and other emergency contraception (09:57) How Dobbs will impact Title IX cases and its provisions  (10:15) What colleges universities need to act on with regards to Title IX cases in light of the abortion ban and criminalization (10:54)  Will colleges face criminal risk or exposure for aiding a student's travel to access abortion facilities  (12:20) How the limitation of access to reproductive health has instilled a fear of risk of prosecution for colleges and its staff (15:44) The repercussions of the criminalization of abortion on women's health, likelihood of completing college altogether, the economy and what it means for the state (17:11) Why section 504 of Title IX cases, the Rehabilitation Act, and the Americans with Disabilities Act need to adjust accordingly to the elimination of the constitutional right to abortion (18:27) Terry's insights on the possibility of the reversal of the abortion ban in the future  (20:52) Why a public health leader believes that the appropriate public response of universities about this ruling should favor bodily autonomy and the health outcome of their students (22:22) Ways in which students can campaign for women's health after the recent SCOTUS ruling on abortion (26:02) Sound advice parents should give their college kids about sex and possibilities of pregnancy before sending them off (26:45) Why parents need to consider the possibility of their sons causing a pregnancy in college as well (29:27) The extreme lengths women may possibly take because of the criminalization of abortion  (31:20) The heartbreaking impact of this decision on the mental and physical health of children Transcript: Kristina Supler: We're so pleased today to be joined by Terry McGovern. Terry's the Harriet and Robert Heilbrunn professor and chair of the Heilbrunn department of population and family health at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health. Since 2018, Terry served as director of the department's program on global health health justice and governance. And before joining, joining the mailman school in 1989, Terry founded the HIV law project and served as the executive director until 1999. While at the HIV law project, Terry litigated the groundbreaking case. S P V Sullivan, which led to the social security administration, including HIV-related disability in their criteria. Kristina Supler: She was appointed by President Bill Clinton to the national task force on aids, drug development, Terry, we're so pleased to have you join us today. Thank you. Susan Stone: Today's topic is how the recent United States Supreme court Dobbs decision, which reversed Roe V. Wade will impact students on college campuses. And Kristina we've really struggled about how to do this podcast. Because we want it to be a meaningful discussion that provides parents with information in a way that's helpful and shows some thought on our end. Susan Stone: And I know, you know, that I was in Italy, on my honeymoon and I couldn't get my mind off of. How to do this podcast? Who to have as a guest? And I feel so grateful for the guest that we're gonna have today. I know I reached out to her via email and I really thought about my words. I think I crafted that email, those three short paragraphs with as much thought as I would craft a legal brief. Susan Stone: And I'm so honored that she is here to talk about this topic.  Susan Stone: And thank you for answering my email.  Terry McGovern: Of course. Thank you for having me  Susan Stone: Terry. First question. What is your reaction to the Dobs decision? And just, could you give our listeners who are mostly parents an explanation of how it will impact students on various college campuses? Terry McGovern: Sure. I have to say I was actually stunned. We know that making abortion illegal, doesn't actually reduce abortion. There's so much evidence globally of this. All it does is increase maternal mortality. So just from the point of view of wanting to end abortion, the way to do that, Is obviously to increase access to contraception and services. Terry McGovern: It's not to criminalize abortion. So from my perspective, this decision has really unleashed a whole lot of unnecessary harm on women and girls and people who can get pregnant. Of course in that category, we know that 57% of those who get abortions are women in their twenties. The latest data says 29% are college age students. Terry McGovern: So we also know that, college age women are at an elevated risk of sexual violence. We know that there's lots and lots of power issues. Negotiating sex. So for the women and girls who are in states, that abortion is now illegal and, and even criminalized this creates a very, very complicated set of decisions for them and a lot of complexity around everything having to do with a possible unintended pregnancy. Terry McGovern: So obviously just to state the obvious students often don't have access to cars. Their health insurance status is often dependent on parents. Many have jobs. There's a lot going on when you're in college. Before this decision accessing abortion was not easy. Right? So now you've injected into a very complicated situation, you know, a whole bunch of fear. Terry McGovern: And I think, I think the, uh, the issue of costs and how much it will cost to actually get an abortion, to travel, to get an abortion. All of these things are gonna be very, very difficult for students. I think.  Kristina Supler: Susan and I, we represent students on campuses across the country. We deal with college students day in and day out. And we often start our conversations with parents, with the, the idea that look, every college campus has its own culture values. What flies on one campus? Doesn't done another, right. So it's fair to say at some schools, this decision might not have any impact on students and in other places might be absolutely monumental. Kristina Supler: I mean, do you agree with that? What would you say?  Susan Stone: Especially with students at Columbia or Barnard? I don't think it's gonna be the same as students at Ohio state.  Terry McGovern: Of course not, of course not. I mean, obviously, OB people just generally in acts in states that are making moves to protect access to abortion are in way better shape. Terry McGovern: Many of the colleges across the country actually even provide abortion medication, provide all kinds of services. It's the colleges in the states that have these extreme bands now where it's very scary. So for example, my son goes to college in Ohio. And the college that he goes to recently decided to contract with a religious provider. Terry McGovern: So there are huge questions about what services will be available, whether there will ever be any help for an abortion referral out of state. So it is extremely diff different depending upon where you are. one of the things post Dobbs is that people really do have to take a minute, figure out what the law is, where access is possible. Terry McGovern: You know, these are, these are very serious things to think about for parents, for your kids in schools, because you don't want to be scrambling. Susan Stone: Depending on where you stand on the issue. I'm thinking Terry about myself. I have a rising junior in high school. We're gonna start looking at colleges. Do you think that the Dobbs opinion will impact where students actually apply for college? Terry McGovern: I think for sure. I think for sure. I mean, I think it should, these are very, very serious issues. Honestly I have never written a letter to my child's college before. And I wrote immediately when I saw that they were going to contract with a, with a religious entity. Because I would have really extreme concerns about the safety of my child, in a place where they could not access any of these services. Terry McGovern: We're already seeing some polling of particularly girls who are thinking about crossing off the list schools that are in states that have total bans or, or criminalization provisions. Susan Stone: So it's gonna be even more difficult to get into Columbia. Or barnard . Terry McGovern: I mean, I, I think it's pretty difficult, but I suppose it could get more difficult. Terry McGovern: Yeah. It is really a very serious issue. If you're a girl  Kristina Supler: there's just even more for families to consider and, and to really be thoughtful about when trying to find the right campus for. For the students, Susan, and I I'd like to turn to a different issue that touches on the do's opinion. Kristina Supler: We represent students across the country involved in campus title I proceedings. And we've had countless cases that in some way, shape or form involve economy that breaks in plan B maybe no condom and plan B plan B is, is in many, many of our cases. Do you think that Dobbs is going to impact the availability of plan b? Terry McGovern: It should not. Many of us feel like Dobbs has opened the door to questioning everything that has to do with contraception, emergency contraception. Nothing in the opinion actually would lead to that conclusion, but it has unleashed a kind of unfettered dedication to denying access to anything, having to do with, sexual and reproductive health services and particularly contraception morning after et cetera. Terry McGovern: The answer is mixed.  Susan Stone: That's very interesting because what we're also wrestling with Terry, and maybe you can help us sort this through, as student advisors in the title IX process, we have dealt with situations where there have been unwanted pregnancies and abortions, and actually female complainants include the unwanted pregnancy as an aspect of a title IX violation that they didn't get consent to get pregnant as a different twist on consent. Susan Stone: We're wondering how will Dobs impact title IX? And do you think we're gonna see a rise of the unwanted pregnancy being a component of this type of complaint on college campuses. And even in those states where abortion is illegal and maybe more so in those states,  Terry McGovern: Yeah. I mean, I think for sure, I mean the other issue isn't title IX only mandates excused absences for abortion and cases of medical necessity. Terry McGovern: So there are a whole lot of issues around title IX that have to be really thought about now. Given the, really this colleges should expand this definition of what is, a mandated excused absence. I do think for sure that you'll see more, we'll see more of these type cases. The other thing is that institutions should be establishing emergency funds, travel and care services. Terry McGovern: Just, there's a whole range of things, including looking at the title IX provisions and expanding them that I think colleges should be doing. But yes, of course. I think you'll see, you'll see more cases like that. Susan Stone: You know, Kristina, you're very involved with the NACDL, which is one of our country's best associations for criminal defense lawyers. Susan Stone: If a college facilitates a fund to allow for travel. Do you think there's any criminal risk or exposure?  Kristina Supler: That's a really good question. And a question that many of my brilliant ,  Susan Stone: that's what I asked you, partner.  Kristina Supler: My brilliant colleagues are wrestling with right now and obviously I'm sort of chuckling, but I shouldn't because it's a really serious question that some of the most brilliant people in our country are wrestling with in terms of setting policy and procedures for institutions on how to service the needs of students. And without getting too into legalese and boring stuff, the people who aren't lawyers probably wouldn't care about the it's a super complicated issue. Kristina Supler: Colleges and universities have legal obligations to help students and accommodate students for various issues. But yet there's also criminal implications and confidentiality issues and stuff like the crime fraud, exception, and, and there's all these sorts of like very academic issues that lawyers and administrators are, are wrestling with now. Kristina Supler: And I'm curious, Terry, what are your thoughts? What are the conversations at Columbia?  Susan Stone: Because you could be a well-intentioned administrator, but say. I have my own family and I have an obligation to follow the law. I don't wanna unwittingly put myself at risk of being prosecuted.  Kristina Supler: Well, and we know so many students look up to their professors or have very close relationships there and there's trust. Kristina Supler: So, I mean, Terry, what are your thoughts? . Terry McGovern: First of all, there's some other simple things like exclusionary housing policies that we're gonna see more pregnant college students. There's that issue? Just a simple one, but I think we are in kind of a crazy time in terms of what is legal and what is not mm-hmm as you just articulated. Terry McGovern: Nobody knows. I feel the opponents of access to abortion or, and, and the range of reproductive health services are trying everything they can to criminalize those who do anything to protect access. So I wouldn't ever, de-legitimize the fears of administrators at institutions. On the other hand, we can't just give in to this kind of mentality. I mean, these are healthcare services. These are young people who are extremely vulnerable. I think what's happening is people are getting together. Experts are getting together and are giving their best judgment about risk of prosecution, but there is always gonna be some risk here. Terry McGovern: There's risk that they may be sued. There's risk, but they probably won't win. I say that crossing both fingers. Mm-hmm because as we know, we're looking at Oklahoma, uh, South Dakota and Wisconsin and it's a county by county. You have to look at who the prosecutors are, who the judges are, who elected them. Terry McGovern: So it's really complicated to predict whether something will be found to be illegal or in violation of a bounty law pro provision or something else. Not a simple thing as you well understand. Mm-hmm  Susan Stone: I wanna switch gears to a whole different topic. Related to this, obviously, because it's something that has, I'll be honest with you. Susan Stone: I didn't sleep last night and it kept me up all night. So our practice, we do a lot of special education law, and we represent little ones who need 5 0 4 plans and IEPs. And, and I have a. Not so secret passion. I love preschool. Okay. I, I loved being the mom who dropped off at preschool. I loved everything about having a preschooler. Susan Stone: I just think there it's just a magical age. I also am so worried about young girls having to drop out of college. And I'm wondering with the President Biden's expanded definition of pregnancy within Title IX, is it an argument out there to say, okay, colleges, you have an obligation to allow those mothers who give birth. Susan Stone: Those babies should be able to live in the dorm with their mother. You should provide daycare so they can attend class. You should also, I wanna make sure those babies are included within the university health insurance policy. So when they have that ear infection or they need their vaccinations, will those colleges have to create special dorms for mothers and fathers mm-hmm to live and raise their child to see that these young women do not have to drop outta college. I mean, I'm sick about this.  Susan Stone: I love babies. I can't wait to be a grandmother. I have a daughter getting married and my daughter is supposed to go off to graduate school. And I just wanna make sure that all of these states that have said that this is illegal, that especially the state institutions are ready for these babies. And don't just kick these women to the curb.  Terry McGovern: No, absolutely. I mean, we know that student parents are 10 times less likely to graduate. There's so much evidence of the bad economic consequences of young women having babies during college. So of course, if, Let's just go back to reality here. Terry McGovern: Mississippi has the highest infant mortality rate in the country. It has one of the, the third highest maternal mortality rate during pregnancy. These states that are taking the lead on banning abortion or criminalizing abortion, or creating bounty hunting are not states that have invested at all in kind of the welfare of women and children. Terry McGovern: Mississippi's foster care system has like 111 outstanding violations for abuses. Oh, oh my gosh. So I wanna say that there's not evidence of kind of an, a real dedication to taking care of any women and girls in the state. Let alone those oncologists. So I think we do have to push, push the colleges to, to step up here and, provide the necessary services. Terry McGovern: But I just wanna inject a very serious note of hypocrisy about the kind of dedication to, shutting down people's access to abortion. But not a dedication to, reducing these horrible health outcomes for women and girls.  Susan Stone: would you think though, that the change in title nine or the section 5 0 4, the rehabilitation act or title two of the ADA though, would mandate more accommodations? Terry McGovern: I would absolutely think so. I would absolutely think so in this shifting context, and I think that's the path that many are going to take now, and it makes total sense to me and. I know, there's a lot of people working to actually, provide greater protection in the regulations, even around HIPAA medical records. Terry McGovern: Right. We have got to go back and look at the ADA and all of, in all of these different contexts and strengthen the protections. So just for a second, HIPAA there's greater protection and medical records in the context of mental health or drug use, we need that level of protection in reproductive health, on the ADA issues. Terry McGovern: I think we absolutely have to to use the APA in this context to establish rights.  Kristina Supler: Question for you. Is it possible. One day, the Dobbs decision will be overruled. Do you think a different composition of the Supreme courts might do away with this decision? And, and if so, how far off do you think that is? Terry McGovern: Interestingly we've been working a lot like it with countries where it was criminalized and then. Basically was not. So Ireland, Mexico and what goes on is that they criminalize abortion and horrible things happen. Like, just like we're reading about every day. Terry McGovern: There's confusion about miscarriages. There's 10 year olds who are forced to, go to term and their bodies can't take it. All of these things play out and you see public opinions start to shift. So we've seen in a lot of countries, a flip. Which I have to say is hopeful. I don't think as we well know, the public opinion is not in support of what SCOTUS has done here. Terry McGovern: Right. I think that, to me, when they allowed the Texas law to take effect. Which, invited bounty hunting. That to me said there was no reason in the room. So I do think that, there are plenty of Republican judges who do not support the approach that SCOTUS has taken here. So I do think, yes, absolutely. Terry McGovern: If the composition of the court changes what we have is a very extremist. Right now. So I do, I do really hope that this could be reversed when the composition of the court changes, which we know can happen when you least expect it. Susan Stone: Yeah. It's not always predictable. One of my favorite courses in law school was a Supreme court seminar. Susan Stone: And I appreciate that seminar at nobody knows the future of the court. And justices have flip flopped.  Kristina Supler: That's right. It's people don't have the static position throughout their entire careers. So, you know, we'll have to see what the future holds and, hopefully with lobbying and activism and, and people expressing their opinions and becoming more informed on the issue as a whole, that might foster some change. Susan Stone: Kristina yesterday brought a, as we were preparing for this podcast recently read that Yale and Princeton took a neutral position on this issue. I'm not, I don't know if you've read about this. Terry McGovern: No.  Susan Stone: And basically stating that the schools will abide by the law, the state a very careful and I would say political position. Susan Stone: What is your reaction? How should universities publicly respond?  Terry McGovern: I think universities should be supportive of, bodily, autonomy, right? Period. There's so much public health evidence. This isn't even slightly controversial. Criminalizing abortion only really leads to poor health outcomes, particularly for the college student group. Terry McGovern: So if these institutions care about the welfare of their student, They should not be neutral on this point. It is a, it is going to disproportionately impact their students. So I don't see how you can be neutral. So I have to say, you know, you saw, we were able to, or maybe you didn't see, we were able to get the vast majority of deans, of schools, of public health to, to sign a letter urging SCOTUS not to overturn Roe. All of the medical associations stand behind the right to abortion, right? So I don't under understand why these institutions would take this position. And  Kristina Supler: in your opinion and your experience on, on college campuses, what's what can college students do today to really have their voices heard and to foster change? Kristina Supler: What can students do who are just sitting there feeling helpless?  Susan Stone: And I wanna clarify this question too. Not just students on public campuses that have more first amendment protection, but can we focus on students who might be at private campuses and states where abortion is legal? What can they do?  Terry McGovern: I am happy. I'm smiling because I had a, a little war room of students all summer. We have so many students coming out of the woodwork to say, we, what can we do? How can we do it? So I think that I've seen our students do everything from. Volunteering and staffing, transportation services in states where abortion is now illegal to. Terry McGovern: Doing podcasts, one of our, doing poetry around their feelings about this decision. I have been so moved by the kind of depth of upset of these young women. They are freaked out about their futures and it has really shifted how they think about their sexual. Terry McGovern: As well. What I see happening is a lot of outreach, a lot of activism students organizing to make sure medication abortion is available on the campus that they're on. The students that are in that Ohio school are organizing campaigning. So I'm seeing more activism than I've seen out of students since the time I've been a professor, which is very hopeful. Terry McGovern: There are so many different things they can do. One thing that they're doing for me on a daily basis is research research, like really digging into what judges are ruling. How in this county are the medical records being treated when there's an attempt to criminalize. I'm working with a group of volunteer law students who are painstakingly looking at judicial records in states where there's some real risk of people being prosecuted doing research on, what about providers? Terry McGovern: You know, as a public health person, it it's horrifying to me to think that we'd say to a doctor, don't write something down on a medical record, but what needs to be written down on a medical record for the medical care. Right. And what is there that's extra that could only lead to a prosecution. Terry McGovern: So. Sadly, we're in the, the logistics stage of trying to figure out how what's the best way to protect people. So there's actually so much for students to do all over the place. And I think it makes them feel much better to do it. So you should see this abortion tracker that our students have created. Terry McGovern: It's got every possible per mutation, adolescent consent, et cetera. So, I just think that's where we get the hope looking at how these young people are responding to this and they're, they are not gonna leave this alone. Susan Stone: Christina, I just wanna throw something back to you. Look, we deal with parents from across the spectrum as to how they feel. Sex. Mm-hmm some parents teach abstinence and want abstinence, and some parents are much more communicative about sex, but we know sex goes wrong because we wouldn't have a career. Kristina Supler: Would we sad?  Terry McGovern: But true. so  Susan Stone: Terry, what would be good solid advice for a parent of either a high school or. College student with regard to planning, should it change or should it be the same good advice that it always is? We're a condom. If you have a son and put your daughter on the pill and make sure they have what they need before they go off to college and make sure you transmit your family values, what do you think? Terry McGovern: I think that's all great. I also think that, the advice should be that no matter how much abstinence training, like there's tons of evidence that no matter what people college students have sex and no matter what there are unintended pregnancy. And again, that can be everything from power imbalance to a broken. Terry McGovern: Right. So then you have to think about what happens if that happens. And now that is a very, very complicated question in lots of states, Oklahoma, Texas, et cetera, et cetera. So I do think that it has changed the picture considerably, even if you're against, you never wanna think about your college age student having sex. Terry McGovern: You've gotta think about the possibility. If they're a girl that they could get pregnant, if they're a boy that they could be responsible for a pregnancy and it's, it's going to be very complicated to figure out what to do next. So I think. No matter how much you don't wanna think about it, you really do need to think about it. Terry McGovern: If my daughter is in Texas and she gets pregnant, what's the plan, right? What's the plan. Because it is something that happens constantly.  Susan Stone: Is the plan more complicated in many ways, if you have a son?  Terry McGovern: I, I have a son and I think it's comp I. From the minute this decision came down, he's in Ohio, I've talked about this to him. Think about how the picture has changed. Terry McGovern: You need to be super careful, super responsible, and you need to think about if something goes wrong and you're part of a pregnancy. What is the plan? What is the plan? Because I think that's, it is a very different picture. And obviously, also I'm saying. It's unclear where they get services now that's being fought out. Terry McGovern: So there's a lot more to think about than there was.  Kristina Supler: I think that's, it's really interesting to hear that because Susan and I, we, when we talk to parents and students and we give lectures on, on the issues of consent. We talk a lot about the importance of communication in sex. And too often today we're seeing students not have communication. Kristina Supler: And this now it sounds like what you're saying is, is communication is even more important and central to the issue of sex and how relationships can unfold.  Terry McGovern: Absolutely. I mean, I think it absolutely needs to be thought about and communicated, right? Because this is not, these are not what if scenarios, these are true things and something like, I, I watch my son really let it, sink in. Terry McGovern: If there's an unintended pregnancy, you. What do you do? Where do you go? You're now not clear that you can even go on campus. What's the plan. Are you thinking about that? College students are not thinking about those things. So I think it is very important to think about and talk about. And I do hear that a lot from, the students, the female students are thinking about it what is this? So the boys should be thinking about it too. Right.  Susan Stone: Do you think that in some states, young women will withhold the information from their partner so they can make, so they can't be stopped. I'm just questioning that. Would that be an, uh, unintended consequence that a, a male would be deprived of knowledge?  Terry McGovern: It could be for sure. Terry McGovern: I mean, if you're, if you inject fear and criminalization into this decision, you're gonna get all kinds of strange behavior. This is why we didn't want criminalization in this already complicated terrain. So I think you're gonna get all kinds of terror driven decisions, including probably in some cases not to disclose out of fear. Terry McGovern: Which is of course, obviously what goes on a lot, which leads to all these harmful behaviors, pregnant people who don't wanna be pregnant, being scared and thinking, let me take matters into my own hands, right? Mm. Because you can't really get information and how am I gonna get the money to get a different state? Terry McGovern: And I can't have this baby. Right. So you have to think about a young person. I know you all, that's who you work with, but. It's really difficult to be a young person today. Just even with everything that's going on in the world, and now you're injecting this kind of terror around what if the condom breaks and I'm pregnant. Terry McGovern: And there is some crazy law that I, my provider can be recorded and a private citizen can report me to, it's not like the students don't know all this stuff. They have a vague sense of it. And it's terrifying now. So I'm very much afraid that it's gonna lead to all kinds of kind of rash decisions. Terry McGovern: Unintended consequences will be all over the  Susan Stone: place. I'll tell you what, I'm predicting that a lot of parents of college students are gonna be called upon to. Make parent babies and, parents who were thinking they had their retirement set are not gonna be in a position to, but they might have to fund and take care of that next generation. Kristina Supler: Terry you've given us so much to think about today and, and so much really invaluable information. Any parting words or anything you wanna share with our listeners  Susan Stone: or anything we didn't ask you that you wish we would've asked  Terry McGovern: you? You One thing that I am really noticing that, um, the students are really deeply disturbed by is these kind of lack of exceptions for incest, rape or to preserve the life of the mother or the confusion around that. Terry McGovern: I do wanna say that it appears to me that the impact of this decision on young people is that our lives aren't worth much. And that is that's heartbreaking, upsetting thing. That's why. Frankly, it's been uplifting and amazing to have all these young people here doing, responding to Roe, doing all this stuff because we've really unleashed something that is very disturbing. Terry McGovern: I, I say we, we didn't, but the court has. So I think we all, all of us parents need to pay a lot of attention to obviously we do, but the mental health consequences of all this stuff on our young people, as they're just trying to find their way and figure it out and I don't know, I find it just very unfortunate that this set of, terrorizing, criminalization provisions have been injected into this very complex time in their lives. Susan Stone: Thank you. I, I. I heavily, there's the emotion in preparing for this podcast, the gratitude, and really the honor that you agreed to do this podcast and the thoughtfulness in which you provided responses to our questions is deeply appreciated.  Kristina Supler: Thank you, Terry. 

How does the loss of a family member to a tragedy like 9/11 affect your ability to lead? How can you stay grounded in love when working on challenging issues like abortion and HIV/AIDS? Terry McGovern, chair of the Heilbrunn Department of Population and Family Health at Columbia's Public Health School is here to explore the realities of staying accountable to the communities you serve and letting them lead the way.   Tune in this week to discover the resilience and focus it takes to survive personal tragedy and continue serving the most marginalized people in your community. Terry is sharing the most significant things she's learned in her fight for reproductive and health equality and how we need to ground our leadership in these turbulent times.   Get full show notes and more information here: https://mallikadutt.com/s2e11 Leadership Moves is supported by the BUILD program of the Ford Foundation Podcast music composed by Devadas, (c) Mallika Dutt, LLC 2021  Production team: Mallika Dutt, Kiani Ned, Loubna Bouajaj, and Digital Freedom Productions Sign up for Mallika's email newsletter at mallikadutt.com/join   Follow Mallika: Twitter: twitter.com/mallikadutt   Instagram: instagram.com/mallikadutt   Facebook: facebook.com/mallikadutt   YouTube: youtube.com/c/MallikaDutt-IC

Today's episode brings us on a journey of archaeology. Not the type with shovels and brushes, but rather a restorative archaeology that sheds light on the stories of women who are not well known in the history books. We speak with Fatima Sator, Ellen Chesler and Dan Plesch, two of the authors and the co-editor of a new book published this year called Women and the UN: A New History of Women's International Human Rights. It documents the stories of influential women, many from the global south, who dedicated their work to ensuring women's human rights were recorded in UN conventions,  treaties and documents. Despite this work, there is very little known about them and their contribution.   Fatima Sator is a communications specialist at International Committee of the Red Cross, author and gender equality researcher at School of Oriental and African Studies University of London, or SOAS.  Ellen Chesler is an author and Senior Fellow at CUNY's Ralph Bunche Institute for International Studies. They both contributed chapters to the book.   Dan Plesch is a co-editor of this volume, together with Rebecca Adami. He is the Director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at SOAS.  We talk about why documenting these stories of women in our history matters for our understanding of multilateralism, and consider how we define multilateralism might to evolve to fully comprehend the  contribution of women to key multilateral decisions and documents that exist today.  Open Access Book “Women and the UN: A New History of Women's International Human Rights” - Open Access version online: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/oa-edit/10.4324/9781003036708/women-un-rebecca-adami-dan-plesch   Book Resources  Project Page for Women and the UN:  https://www.soas.ac.uk/cisd/research/women-in-diplomacy/women-in-the-un-charter/  Open Global Rights article on the book:  https://www.openglobalrights.org/women-and-the-un-a-new-history-of-womens-international-human-rights/?lang=English  TEDx PlaceDesNations talk with Fatima Sator and Elise Diettrichson - "These women changed your life": These Women Changed Your Life | Elise Luhr Dietrichson & Fatima Sator | TEDxPlaceDesNationsWomen  "Women founders of the UN" - SOAS conference with Rebecca Adami  Women and Girls Rising: Progress and resistance around the world, edited by Ellen Chesler and Terry McGovern:  https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/edit/10.4324/9781315708379/women-girls-rising-ellen-chesler-terry-mcgovern  Content Speakers: Ellen Chesler, Fatima Sator and Dan Plesch Host: Natalie Alexander Editor & Producer: Natalie Alexander Social media designs: Natalie Alexander Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva  

Terence McGovern is possibly one of the most memorable voice actors from the days of Disney's Afternoon. From Ducktales to Darkwing Duck, we knew Terry as the voice of the lovable but accident-prone Launchpad McQuack. Mr. McGovern's decades-long career includes roles in Mrs. Doubtfire, THX-1138, and several video games. It was my great privilege to talk to Mr. McGovern this week about his experiences in front of the camera and behind the microphone. What words of wisdom does he have for up-and-coming artists looking to break into the industry? Check out our interview below as we reminisce and look to the future. I want to thank Terry again for taking the time out of his day to speak with us. We also thank him for all the memories he gave Generation X as we grew up watching Launchpad crashing planes but continuing to be a hero with a heart of gold. Thank you, Terry. It has been an honor to speak with you.  

For too long, research on new drugs and therapies, the training health care providers receive, and public policy were all designed with only adult white men in mind. This week, Chelsea is sitting down with her mom, Hillary Rodham Clinton, lawyer and public health expert Terry McGovern, and President and Dean of Morehouse School of Medicine Dr. Valerie Montgomery Rice to understand how we got here and what we need to do to ensure our health care is inclusive and equitable for all. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Pat is joined by Chelsea Clinton, who recently wrote a First Opinion on the health dangers of fracking with two of her colleagues at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health, Terry McGovern, and Micaela Martinez. The conversation covered global public health crises such as fracking, oxygen shortages, and the pandemic.

The Biden administration has promised to make Covid-19 vaccines available to all US adults by May 1st, but getting a vaccine to those who need them most is still an uphill battle. Black, Indigenous, Latinx, and Pacific Islander Americans are more than twice as likely to die from Covid-19, but they're not the ones getting the vaccine.. In this episode, Laura interviews three public health experts about the challenges of eradicating Covid-19 in the face of widespread vaccine hesitancy. Why are some Americans resisting vaccination, and what is being done to change their minds? Are public health officials listening to the needs of the community? Laura and guests explore the roots of vaccine hesitancy, methods for rebuilding public trust in public health, and hip hop as a tool for outreach to vulnerable communities.   Guests:  Dr. Oxiris Barbot, Professor;  Terry McGovern chair of the Department of Population and Family Health and the Program on Global Health Justice and Governance at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health; and  Dr. Olajide Williams founder of Hip Hop Public Health.Full episode notes along with related episodes, related articles and more are free and posted at https://Patreon.com/theLFShow Please consider becoming a member for as little as $3 or $5 a month like a newspaper or magazine subscription to keep this content accessible to radio and TV viewers and podcast subscribers. Thanks!

In a previously recorded live Q&A for Darkwing Duck, Jim Cummings "Darkwing Duck", Terry McGovern "Launchpad McQuack", Michael Bell "Quackerjack", and Katie Leigh "Honker Muddlefoot" all answer fan questions.Originally aired live on October 11, 2020.

Terry McGovern - the voice of Launchpad McQuack!  Join us as Tim Nydell (host of Saturday Morning Rewind) interviews Terry about voicing Launchpad, his radio career, and even his contributions to the original STAR WARS!  Visit Terry's podcast online: www.3homeys.com Also, make sure to subscribe to Tim's new YouTube channel (his vlog channel): TIM NYDELL   We would like to thank our Patreon supporters for this month:     Mike Clemons Gemma Bright Torrie Garvin           Visit our Patreon page and get some rewards for donating each month: PATREON Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: HERE (we have TWO YouTube Channels) Check out our CLOTHING LINE: REWIND WEAR Don't forget to donate to help keep us going - even if it's two dollars: DONATE Please rate us on iTunes: iTunes Visit our website: www.SaturdayMorningRewind.com Follow us on Twitter: @SaturdayRewind Follow us on Facebook: Facebook Follow us on Instagram: @SaturdayRewind

In the inaugural episode of All Ears, Abby is joined by Columbia University professor and human rights lawyer Terry McGovern to discuss how gender discrimination undermines job security, equal pay, and healthcare for women during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the startling parallels to the early days of the HIV/AIDS epidemic. EPISODE LINKS:Terry on Twitter: @TerryMMcGovernFork Films on Twitter: @ForkFilmsLink to Women and Girls Rising, co-edited by Terry Link to Pray the Devil Back to Hell, produced by Abby, directed by Gini Reticker

As the labor force shrinks, Terry explains the need for leaders to be both self-aware and socially aware of generational differences. He shares practical business scenarios to help us understand what that looks like and how it can have an impact on an organization's ability to attract and retain good talent.

From the Silent Generation to Gen Z – never before have five generations been a part of the workforce – each with their own beliefs, norms and behaviors. In this episode, Dr. Terry McGovern will help us understand why and how each generation developed their belief system, and most importantly, how leaders can use that knowledge to overcome stereotypes affecting their working relationships.

Today we begin with a very special treat: a short interview with Launchpad McQuack himself, Terry McGovern! After that, go find a workout buddy because we're discussing "You Sweat Your Life", Herb Muddlefoot's first big episode. Just how cute are baby Darkwing and baby Herb, right? Also, lots of talk about the great Hamilton Camp! So grab the nearest barbell and enjoy! DarkwingDuck #DisneyAfternoon #DisneyPlus This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Happy 2020 St Canardians! Today we talk about another of our very favorite episodes, "Fungus Amongus"! We've got Morgana (making her first appearance), we've got some other shady characters, we've got carnivorous pizza monsters, we've got Disney Australia...what more could you possibly want? Will also talks about his adventures at Galaxycon with Michael Bell and Terry McGovern! Listen, enjoy and dont forget the pepperoni. DarkwingDuck #KathSoucie #DisneyPlus This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Gender-based violence – why are states so bad at making it stop? This week, in her first appearance since fleeing Brazil, women's rights advocate Debora Diniz joins fellow activists and philanthropists to discuss what works and what doesn't in stopping violence against women and girls. Music featured:“Cause I'm a Woman” by Muted Soul Featuring Jess King courtesy of Muted Records.GUESTS: Debora Diniz, Deputy Director of Rights and Justice; Terry McGovern, Chair of Population and Family Health, Columbia University Medical Center; Kavita N. Ramdas, Director of Women's Rights Program, Open Society Foundations.Support theLFShow for as little as $2 a month!

In the past month, North Bay stages have been occupied by vampires, ghosts, a Thing, and Transylvanian transvestites. The Novato Community Playhouse now finds itself overrun with the most ghastly, heinous, and horrifying creatures ever to set foot on a theatrical stage. I am referring, of course, to white upper middle-class parents. They are the featured monsters in playwright Yasmina Reza’s God of Carnage, directed by Terry McGovern and running at the Playhouse through November 11. Alan and Annette Raleigh (Ken Bacon & Jena Hunt-Abraham) have come to the home of Michael and Veronica Novak (Marty Lee Jones & Heather Shepardson) to discuss the matter of a fight between their sons. It seems that the Raleigh’s son knocked two teeth out of the mouth of the Novak’s son with a stick. After a quick review of the Novak’s statement on the incident (and the decision to change the verbiage to reflect the Raleigh boy being “furnished” with a stick, as opposed to “armed”), the two couples sit down to awkwardly determine what to do next. Over the next ninety intermission-less minutes, the façade of civilized gentility will give way to tribal warfare. Reza’s play has always seemed to me to be a grade B knock-off of Edward Albee’s Whose Afraid of Virginia Woolf? If it was Reza’s attempt to show that who we appear to be is rarely who we really are, she’s at least fifty years late to that party. What she adds to that familiar trope is the omnipresence and annoyance of cell phones in our lives and a considerable quantity of stage vomit. Ah, yes, the vomit. Within the theatre community, this show has garnered the nickname “the vomit play” as there is a scene that requires (per the stage directions) “a brutal and catastrophic spray of vomit.” While it’s always interesting to see how a company accomplishes this, it’s really little more than a device to represent the verbal garbage spewn by many on a daily basis. The Novaks and Raleighs have been vomiting on each other all evening, why not take it to its logical conclusion? Have I mentioned yet this is a comedy? Yes, there are plenty of opportunities to laugh at the parents’ idiocy, but the joke is ultimately on the audience. Go ahead. Laugh at them, because they couldn’t possibly represent you. The late, great cartoonist Walt Kelly’s “Pogo” line comes to mind: “We have met the enemy and he is us.” ‘God of Carnage’ runs Friday through Sunday through November 11 at the Novato Theater Company Playhouse in Novato. Friday and Saturday evening performances are at 8 pm; there’s a Sunday matinee at 2pm. For more information, go to novatotheatercompany.org.

Hello, Deja vu, huh? Another new episode of IADBCLGD? Well, sorta. It's the fixed version of the same episode that came out 12 hours ago. Chicken, The Boy Who Could Fly, California Game starring Terry McGovern, stunt shows, one of those DW 5 second conclusions and now SOUND EFFECTS THAT WORK! ------------------------------------------------ Maybe donate a few dollars to our Patreon account: https://www.patreon.com/itsaduckblur There's heaps of cool gifts and bonuses for those that join! Come and see our website: www.itsaduckblur.com Buy our merch at: www.redbubble.com/people/itsaduckblur/shop AND here's Sarah's brand new Etsy store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/sarahbaggsmisc Email us on: itsaduckblurpodcast@gmail.com Please rate and review 'It's A Duck Blur: Let's Get Dangerous' on iTunes or Stitcher. It helps other people find the show. For more Michael, follow him on Twitter: @meandmyeasel For more Sarah, follow her on Twitter: @why_in_the_heck OR her podcast Sperging Out For more Michael AND Sarah listen to Pop Quiz Hot Shot with Michael Williams, also available on iTunes, Stitcher and where all good podcasts are sold.

Yes, it’s me – Marc Hershon – your host and found object for Epi139 of Succotash, the Comedy Soundcast Soundcast. This is an installment of Succotash Chats, where we focus on talking with a soundcaster, or a comedian, or a comedian/soundcaster, or – in this case – a magazine publisher/editor/writer/soundcaster. Speaking of found objects, our guest is Davy Rothbart, the creator of Found magazine and, as of a couple of months ago, the Found soundcast as well. (You may have noticed that I’ve been using the “soundcast” word a lot already. Our grass roots campaign to shift from using podcast to soundcast is slowly taking off — you’ll even hear our guest Davy Rothbart mention that he’ll back our play and start using it.) Davy is a really interesting guy and I enjoyed talking with him and getting the backstory on how he decided to start the magazine and how it's opened up his life by getting all of these odd little notes and other found bits of flotsam that people send him. He also shares a few of his favorite "foundities" with us during the course of our chat. ALSO THIS EPISODE We have a double shot of our Burst O' Durst segment, courtesy of political comic and social commentator Will Durst. During the Tweetsack segment I play a clip from the 100th epi of Drew Michael's I Might Be Wrong soundcast, only because his PR folks neglected to send me a free copy of his comedy album that they wanted me to plug. And we have a commercial from our sponsor Henderson's Pants for their ever-popular Drifter Chinos. LIVE APPEARANCES There are just a few days left before my live appearance with the Spaghetti Jam 40th Year Reunion Improv Comedy Show. Tickets are going fast but there are still some left, so if you’re in the San Francisco Bay Area on Sunday, September 11th – 9/11, that’s right — we’re at the Throckmorton Theatre in downtown Mill Valley. Such a GREAT lineup of performers that are turning out for this - people who really lit the fuse for what we know as improvisational comedy today: Terry McGovern, Gil Christner, Diane Amos, Debi Durst, Michael Bossier, Denis Egan, Robin Eurich, Andy Goldberg, Rodney Sheriff, John Elk, Chris Pray, Jim Cranna, John Bates, Hennen Chambers, and Andrejs Gulbis. Jump over to http://ThrockmortonTheatre.org for the showtime, tickets and other details. And then later in the month – September 23-25 – I’ll be at the 5th Annual Los Angeles Podcast Festival. In addition to hosting the Journalism and Podcasting panel on Sunday afternoon at 2 PM, I’ll be set up in the Podcast Lab the rest of the time with my equipment doing interviews so stop on by and let’s chat! I’ve already got a couple of folks set up to drop by: Adam Spiegelman from the Proudly Resents soundcast and Chris Gore from the PodCRASH! show and Film Threat Magazine, which is in the midst of a Kickstarter campaign to go back into publication. A LITTLE HELP? If you want to help keep Succotash going strong, please visit our homesite at http://SuccotashShow.com, where you can click on our Donate button, shop at Amazon.com by using the banner at the top of the page, or grab some merch at the Succotashery. You’ll also find a link to the homesite for the Laughable app there, where you can learn more about this great new way to find, download, stream and follow your favorite and soon-to-be favorite comedy podcasts. We won't do anything to stop you going to iTunes and both rating and reviewing Succotash, which helps more people to find the show. And speaking of finding the show, Succotash is now available on I Heart Radio, so check us out there, too! Until next time, thanks for passing the Succotash! — Marc Hershon

Emerald Tablet Radio- Join Tara and Holly, With special Guest Lauren Cielo as she explains Astral projection. First we will hear Andi Garrison's story of dealing with experiences her whole life without knowing or understanding what it is, Andi is searching for answers and hope that her story will help others. Within the Chaos-  Rodney Shortridge and Robyn Dalton Interview w/Maritza Brikisak was born in Santiago, Chile. Her mother was a school teacher at the time, her dad had an Import Export business that allowed her to travel and visit many countries at a young age. Her father's company was affected when Pinochet came to power and the family moved to Caracas, Venezuela. Always wanting the best for his children, upon graduation, she and her brothers were sent to Canada to study at Queen's University at Kingston where she graduated with a BA in Computing and Information Science. Her professional acting career began on the Stage with 'Theater 5' under the tutelage of Valerie Robertson, continued in Ottawa with 'Sears & Switzer' and progressed to Toronto with 'The Little Workshop' and Calvin Green who introduced her to the Meisner Technique. Her husband's work gave her the opportunity to move to London, England, where she trained at Actors Center, with a variety of talented teachers, she accomplished three films while living in London, one of them the pioneering film 'Janus'. The time was 1997, the longest film shown on the Internet was just four minutes, 'Janus' was to be the first ever film to run for half an hour all over the world. She left England and moved back to America, this time to California, to the San Francisco area. Once again she had the privilege to train with great teachers like Elaine Clark from 'Voice One', Terry McGovern and Ed Hooks. She made the move to Los Angeles, and hasn't stopped working since.

This week, we've brought together a panel of experts to talk about the history of HIV/AIDS, and get an update on the current science, ongoing research, and medical treatments. Joining us on the panel are Salim Abdool Karim, clinical infectious diseases epidemiologist, Jonathan Engel, author of "The Epidemic: A History of AIDS", Dázon Dixon Diallo, founder of SisterLove, Inc, the first women’s HIV/AIDS and Reproductive Justice organization in the southeastern United States, and Terry McGovern, founder of the HIV Law Project.

"THE PLAIN WHITE RAPPER" is "Loose Bruce" Kerr's new performance video directed by Terry McGovern. No, Bruce is not aging backward like Benjamin Button, you're looking at footage from a while back which sat on the shelf until now. FOOTAGE NEVER BEFORE SEEN, out of the vault! Loose Bruce Kerr is an irregular feature of the Dr. Demento Show and the Jim Bohannon Show on nationally syndicated radio. Bruce opened for Weird Al Yankovic. Bruce resumed his legal career after 20 years off to pursue music. He is now Assistant General Counsel for Sun Microsystems in Silicon Valley. email Bruce at: BKerrLaw@aol.com