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Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Panel Brendan Eich Joe Eames Aaron Frost AJ ONeal Jamison Dance Tim Caswell Charles Max Wood Discussion 01:57 – Brendan Eich Introduction JavaScript [Wiki] Brendan Eich [Wiki] 02:14 – Origin of JavaScript Java Netscape Jim Clark Marc Andreesen NCSA Mosaic NCSA HTTPd Lynx (Web Browser) Lou Montulli Silicon Graphics Kernel Tom Paquin Kipp Hickman MicroUnity Sun Microsystems Andreas Bechtolsheim Bill Joy Sun-1 Scheme Programming Language Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs – 2nd Edition (MIT Electrical Engineering and Computer Science) by Harold Abelson, Gerald Jay Sussman & Julie Sussman Guy Steele Gerald Sussman SPDY Rob McCool Mike McCool Apache Mocha Peninsula Creamery, Palo Alto, CA Main () and Other Methods (C# vs Java) Static in Java, Static Variables, Static Methods, Static Classes 10:38 – Other Languages for Programmers Visual Basic Chrome Blacklist Firefox 12:38 – Naming JavaScript and Writing VMs Canvas Andrew Myers 16:14 – Envisioning JavaScript’s Platform Web 2.0 AJAX Hidaho Design Opera Mozilla Logo Smalltalk Self HyperTalk Bill Atkinson HyperCard Star Wars Trench Run 2.0 David Ungar Craig Chambers Lars Bak Strongtalk TypeScript HotSpot V8 Dart Jamie Zawinski 24:42 – Working with ECMA Bill Gates Blackbird Spyglass Carl Cargill Jan van den Beld Philips Mike Cowlishaw Borland David M. Gay ECMAScript Lisp Richard Gabriel 31:26 – Naming Mozilla Jamie Zawinski Godzilla 31:57 – Time-Outs 32:53 – Functions Clojure John Rose Oracle Scala Async.io 38:37 – XHR and Microsoft Flash Hadoop Ricardo Jenez Ken Smith Brent Noorda Ray Noorda .NET Shon Katzenberger Anders Hejlsberg NCSA File Formats 45:54 – SpiderMonkey Chris Houck Brendan Eich and Douglas Crockford – TXJS 2010 Douglas Crockford JavaScript: The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford TXJS.com ActionScript Flex Adobe E4X BEA Systems John Schneider Rhino JScript roku Waldemar Horwat Harvard Putnam Math Competition Chris Wilson Silverlight Allen Wirfs-Brock NDC Oslo 2014 JSConf Brendan JSConf Talks 59:58 – JavaScript and Mozilla GIP SSLeay Eric A. Young Tim Hudson Digital Styles Raptor Gecko ICQ and AIM PowerPlant CodeWarrior Camino David Hyatt Lotus Mitch Kapor Ted Leonsis Mitchell Baker David Baren Phoenix Tinderbox Harmony 1:14:37 – Surprises with Evolution of JavaScript Ryan Dahl node.js Haskell Elm Swift Unity Games Angular Ember.js Dojo jQuery react ClojureScript JavaScript Jabber Episode #107: ClojureScript & Om with David Nolen MVC 01:19:43 – Angular’s HTML Customization Sweet.js JavaScript Jabber Episode #039: Sweet.js with Tim Disney TC39 Rick Waldron 01:22:27 – Applications with JavaScript SPA’s Shumway Project IronRuby 01:25:45 – Future of Web and Frameworks LLVM Chris Lattner Blog Epic Games Emscripten Autodesk PortableApps WebGL 01:29:39 – ASM.js Dart.js John McCutchen Monster Madness Anders Hejlsberg, Steve Lucco, Luke Hoban: TypeScript 0.9 – Generics and More (Channel 9, 2013) Legacy 01:32:58 – Brendan’s Future with JavaScript Picks hapi.js (Aaron) JavaScript Disabled: Should I Care? (Aaron) Aaron’s Frontend Masters Course on ES6 (Aaron) Brendan’s “Cool Story Bro” (AJ) [YouTube] Queen – Don't Stop Me Now (AJ) Trending.fm (AJ) WE ARE DOOMED soundtrack EP by Robby Duguay (Jamison) Hohokum Soundtrack (Jamison) Nashville Outlaws: A Tribute to Mötley Crüe (Joe) Audible (Joe) Stripe (Chuck) Guardians of the Galaxy (Brendan)
Panel Brendan Eich Joe Eames Aaron Frost AJ ONeal Jamison Dance Tim Caswell Charles Max Wood Discussion 01:57 – Brendan Eich Introduction JavaScript [Wiki] Brendan Eich [Wiki] 02:14 – Origin of JavaScript Java Netscape Jim Clark Marc Andreesen NCSA Mosaic NCSA HTTPd Lynx (Web Browser) Lou Montulli Silicon Graphics Kernel Tom Paquin Kipp Hickman MicroUnity Sun Microsystems Andreas Bechtolsheim Bill Joy Sun-1 Scheme Programming Language Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs – 2nd Edition (MIT Electrical Engineering and Computer Science) by Harold Abelson, Gerald Jay Sussman & Julie Sussman Guy Steele Gerald Sussman SPDY Rob McCool Mike McCool Apache Mocha Peninsula Creamery, Palo Alto, CA Main () and Other Methods (C# vs Java) Static in Java, Static Variables, Static Methods, Static Classes 10:38 – Other Languages for Programmers Visual Basic Chrome Blacklist Firefox 12:38 – Naming JavaScript and Writing VMs Canvas Andrew Myers 16:14 – Envisioning JavaScript’s Platform Web 2.0 AJAX Hidaho Design Opera Mozilla Logo Smalltalk Self HyperTalk Bill Atkinson HyperCard Star Wars Trench Run 2.0 David Ungar Craig Chambers Lars Bak Strongtalk TypeScript HotSpot V8 Dart Jamie Zawinski 24:42 – Working with ECMA Bill Gates Blackbird Spyglass Carl Cargill Jan van den Beld Philips Mike Cowlishaw Borland David M. Gay ECMAScript Lisp Richard Gabriel 31:26 – Naming Mozilla Jamie Zawinski Godzilla 31:57 – Time-Outs 32:53 – Functions Clojure John Rose Oracle Scala Async.io 38:37 – XHR and Microsoft Flash Hadoop Ricardo Jenez Ken Smith Brent Noorda Ray Noorda .NET Shon Katzenberger Anders Hejlsberg NCSA File Formats 45:54 – SpiderMonkey Chris Houck Brendan Eich and Douglas Crockford – TXJS 2010 Douglas Crockford JavaScript: The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford TXJS.com ActionScript Flex Adobe E4X BEA Systems John Schneider Rhino JScript roku Waldemar Horwat Harvard Putnam Math Competition Chris Wilson Silverlight Allen Wirfs-Brock NDC Oslo 2014 JSConf Brendan JSConf Talks 59:58 – JavaScript and Mozilla GIP SSLeay Eric A. Young Tim Hudson Digital Styles Raptor Gecko ICQ and AIM PowerPlant CodeWarrior Camino David Hyatt Lotus Mitch Kapor Ted Leonsis Mitchell Baker David Baren Phoenix Tinderbox Harmony 1:14:37 – Surprises with Evolution of JavaScript Ryan Dahl node.js Haskell Elm Swift Unity Games Angular Ember.js Dojo jQuery react ClojureScript JavaScript Jabber Episode #107: ClojureScript & Om with David Nolen MVC 01:19:43 – Angular’s HTML Customization Sweet.js JavaScript Jabber Episode #039: Sweet.js with Tim Disney TC39 Rick Waldron 01:22:27 – Applications with JavaScript SPA’s Shumway Project IronRuby 01:25:45 – Future of Web and Frameworks LLVM Chris Lattner Blog Epic Games Emscripten Autodesk PortableApps WebGL 01:29:39 – ASM.js Dart.js John McCutchen Monster Madness Anders Hejlsberg, Steve Lucco, Luke Hoban: TypeScript 0.9 – Generics and More (Channel 9, 2013) Legacy 01:32:58 – Brendan’s Future with JavaScript Picks hapi.js (Aaron) JavaScript Disabled: Should I Care? (Aaron) Aaron’s Frontend Masters Course on ES6 (Aaron) Brendan’s “Cool Story Bro” (AJ) [YouTube] Queen – Don't Stop Me Now (AJ) Trending.fm (AJ) WE ARE DOOMED soundtrack EP by Robby Duguay (Jamison) Hohokum Soundtrack (Jamison) Nashville Outlaws: A Tribute to Mötley Crüe (Joe) Audible (Joe) Stripe (Chuck) Guardians of the Galaxy (Brendan)
Panel Brendan Eich Joe Eames Aaron Frost AJ ONeal Jamison Dance Tim Caswell Charles Max Wood Discussion 01:57 – Brendan Eich Introduction JavaScript [Wiki] Brendan Eich [Wiki] 02:14 – Origin of JavaScript Java Netscape Jim Clark Marc Andreesen NCSA Mosaic NCSA HTTPd Lynx (Web Browser) Lou Montulli Silicon Graphics Kernel Tom Paquin Kipp Hickman MicroUnity Sun Microsystems Andreas Bechtolsheim Bill Joy Sun-1 Scheme Programming Language Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs – 2nd Edition (MIT Electrical Engineering and Computer Science) by Harold Abelson, Gerald Jay Sussman & Julie Sussman Guy Steele Gerald Sussman SPDY Rob McCool Mike McCool Apache Mocha Peninsula Creamery, Palo Alto, CA Main () and Other Methods (C# vs Java) Static in Java, Static Variables, Static Methods, Static Classes 10:38 – Other Languages for Programmers Visual Basic Chrome Blacklist Firefox 12:38 – Naming JavaScript and Writing VMs Canvas Andrew Myers 16:14 – Envisioning JavaScript’s Platform Web 2.0 AJAX Hidaho Design Opera Mozilla Logo Smalltalk Self HyperTalk Bill Atkinson HyperCard Star Wars Trench Run 2.0 David Ungar Craig Chambers Lars Bak Strongtalk TypeScript HotSpot V8 Dart Jamie Zawinski 24:42 – Working with ECMA Bill Gates Blackbird Spyglass Carl Cargill Jan van den Beld Philips Mike Cowlishaw Borland David M. Gay ECMAScript Lisp Richard Gabriel 31:26 – Naming Mozilla Jamie Zawinski Godzilla 31:57 – Time-Outs 32:53 – Functions Clojure John Rose Oracle Scala Async.io 38:37 – XHR and Microsoft Flash Hadoop Ricardo Jenez Ken Smith Brent Noorda Ray Noorda .NET Shon Katzenberger Anders Hejlsberg NCSA File Formats 45:54 – SpiderMonkey Chris Houck Brendan Eich and Douglas Crockford – TXJS 2010 Douglas Crockford JavaScript: The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford TXJS.com ActionScript Flex Adobe E4X BEA Systems John Schneider Rhino JScript roku Waldemar Horwat Harvard Putnam Math Competition Chris Wilson Silverlight Allen Wirfs-Brock NDC Oslo 2014 JSConf Brendan JSConf Talks 59:58 – JavaScript and Mozilla GIP SSLeay Eric A. Young Tim Hudson Digital Styles Raptor Gecko ICQ and AIM PowerPlant CodeWarrior Camino David Hyatt Lotus Mitch Kapor Ted Leonsis Mitchell Baker David Baren Phoenix Tinderbox Harmony 1:14:37 – Surprises with Evolution of JavaScript Ryan Dahl node.js Haskell Elm Swift Unity Games Angular Ember.js Dojo jQuery react ClojureScript JavaScript Jabber Episode #107: ClojureScript & Om with David Nolen MVC 01:19:43 – Angular’s HTML Customization Sweet.js JavaScript Jabber Episode #039: Sweet.js with Tim Disney TC39 Rick Waldron 01:22:27 – Applications with JavaScript SPA’s Shumway Project IronRuby 01:25:45 – Future of Web and Frameworks LLVM Chris Lattner Blog Epic Games Emscripten Autodesk PortableApps WebGL 01:29:39 – ASM.js Dart.js John McCutchen Monster Madness Anders Hejlsberg, Steve Lucco, Luke Hoban: TypeScript 0.9 – Generics and More (Channel 9, 2013) Legacy 01:32:58 – Brendan’s Future with JavaScript Picks hapi.js (Aaron) JavaScript Disabled: Should I Care? (Aaron) Aaron’s Frontend Masters Course on ES6 (Aaron) Brendan’s “Cool Story Bro” (AJ) [YouTube] Queen – Don't Stop Me Now (AJ) Trending.fm (AJ) WE ARE DOOMED soundtrack EP by Robby Duguay (Jamison) Hohokum Soundtrack (Jamison) Nashville Outlaws: A Tribute to Mötley Crüe (Joe) Audible (Joe) Stripe (Chuck) Guardians of the Galaxy (Brendan)
Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Tim Caswell This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Tim Caswell. Tim got into programming when he was a kid and would mess around on a Commodore 64 he had found. He next moved onto writing games in Cue Basic, and once the internet came into play in the mid to late 90’s, his programming really took off, especially after he got Windows. Tim has since written his own language based on Lua, called Luvit, worked on browser-based IDE systems, like Cloud 9, and so much more. After working on many projects and programs over the years, he is now focusing on building his startup. His advice is to always balance your needs with what you can do and make sure that you are always moving forward. In particular, we dive pretty deep on: How did you get into programming? Commodore 64 386SX Games in Cue Basic CompuServe SweetSharks.com startup JavaScript and HTML Learning about CPUs in college Studied at Central Arkansas originally C++ Software engineering at UT Dallas Connect Framework NVM in Bash Luvit computer language Polyglot startup New product, SDK, coming soon Daplie Balance and moving forward Getting paid for value His mission The power to create and to inspire And much, much more! Links: Fresh Books Linode @CreationIX Picks Tim Daplie Upcoming SDK Beaker Browser Secure Scuttle Butt Charles CES Upside.com (CODE: VGCU7O)
Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Tim Caswell This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Tim Caswell. Tim got into programming when he was a kid and would mess around on a Commodore 64 he had found. He next moved onto writing games in Cue Basic, and once the internet came into play in the mid to late 90’s, his programming really took off, especially after he got Windows. Tim has since written his own language based on Lua, called Luvit, worked on browser-based IDE systems, like Cloud 9, and so much more. After working on many projects and programs over the years, he is now focusing on building his startup. His advice is to always balance your needs with what you can do and make sure that you are always moving forward. In particular, we dive pretty deep on: How did you get into programming? Commodore 64 386SX Games in Cue Basic CompuServe SweetSharks.com startup JavaScript and HTML Learning about CPUs in college Studied at Central Arkansas originally C++ Software engineering at UT Dallas Connect Framework NVM in Bash Luvit computer language Polyglot startup New product, SDK, coming soon Daplie Balance and moving forward Getting paid for value His mission The power to create and to inspire And much, much more! Links: Fresh Books Linode @CreationIX Picks Tim Daplie Upcoming SDK Beaker Browser Secure Scuttle Butt Charles CES Upside.com (CODE: VGCU7O)
Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Tim Caswell This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Tim Caswell. Tim got into programming when he was a kid and would mess around on a Commodore 64 he had found. He next moved onto writing games in Cue Basic, and once the internet came into play in the mid to late 90’s, his programming really took off, especially after he got Windows. Tim has since written his own language based on Lua, called Luvit, worked on browser-based IDE systems, like Cloud 9, and so much more. After working on many projects and programs over the years, he is now focusing on building his startup. His advice is to always balance your needs with what you can do and make sure that you are always moving forward. In particular, we dive pretty deep on: How did you get into programming? Commodore 64 386SX Games in Cue Basic CompuServe SweetSharks.com startup JavaScript and HTML Learning about CPUs in college Studied at Central Arkansas originally C++ Software engineering at UT Dallas Connect Framework NVM in Bash Luvit computer language Polyglot startup New product, SDK, coming soon Daplie Balance and moving forward Getting paid for value His mission The power to create and to inspire And much, much more! Links: Fresh Books Linode @CreationIX Picks Tim Daplie Upcoming SDK Beaker Browser Secure Scuttle Butt Charles CES Upside.com (CODE: VGCU7O)
In this episode we talk to Tim Caswell. He is the creator of js-git, alongside a lot of other really interesting projects. If you cannot see the audio controls, your browser does not support the audio element. Use the link below to download the mp3 manually. Link to mp3 Listen to the episode on YouTubeLinks:Tim on Google+, GitHub, TwitterTim's homepagehowtonode.orgjs-gitTedit - Git based development environmentTedit as webapp, Chrome appThe latest Tedit demowheaty - JS-Git based application hosting platformrye - A Git based publishing platform implemented in luaLuvit Asynchronous I/O for Lua, IRC channel is #Luvit on FreenodeDiscussion on incorporating js-git in nodeOS/npmgit-html5 powers Tailor, an alternative to TeditGoogle's dev kit chrome appNW.js formerly known as node-webkitScott Hanselman interviewed Paul Betts about Atom ShellMore background material about Tim:In-depth interview with Tim (October 2013)Tim guesting on JSJabber #101 (March 2014)Tim guesting on the ChangeLog #124 (July 2014)Episode outline:00:00:00 Intro 00:02:09 Bio, welcome 00:02:26 Tell us about your background 00:03:39 How come you drifted from Node to Lua recently? 00:05:46 What is the use-case for Lua? 00:07:15 What does Luvit add to Lua? 00:08:39 Jumping back to Git, what is your personal VCS experience? 00:13:03 Can you tell me more about the CORS headers issue at the Git hosting services? 00:15:21 What was the plan for js-git after that? 00:17:16 What was the goal of Tedit? 00:19:07 Where do you store the contents in the browser itself? 00:23:20 What is the current state of tedit/js-git? 00:25:55 In summary, what came out of js-git in the end? 00:26:33 What features does Tedit have? 00:27:31 Is js-git too heavy-weight to be embedded in a Git hosting tool? 00:29:04 Why aren't more companies jumping over js-git to make use of it as a Git-starter tool? 00:30:31 Then let's talk about how companies could use js-git or any of these components 00:36:53 Why can you store blobs without commits on GitHub? 00:40:26 Isn't Git in the browser sort of inevitable? 00:41:56 What do people do these days to develop on Chromebooks/browsers? 00:43:23 Other than service-workers, what would you need in order to fulfill the vision of js-git? 00:44:40 Can't you get access to the file-system in HTML5? 00:46:33 What should have been the master plan to complete js-git/tedit? 00:50:41 What would you want to happen to js-git while you're busy elsewhere? 00:52:28 Some js-git vs libgit2 talk 00:59:54 Is Google Dev Kit a replacement for Tedit? 01:01:02 Clear up different kinds of Chrome-based apps 01:04:31 What is the future of js-git? 01:06:15 Any questions I forgot to ask you? 01:06:43 Anything you would like to promote? 01:08:55 Where can people find you online? 01:09:14 What is your favorite Git Pro Tip? 01:10:17 Thank you for coming onto the show!
I was having an email chat with Mark Vail when he suggested that I think about an interview with Tim Caswell, one of the founders of Studio Electronics. I jumped at this chance, since I've long been a fan of SE's work, and wanted a chance to find out more about the start of the company and what it is going to do for the future. The discussion was wonderful, and I got a chance to dig into Tim's head about design (and especially filter design), old-school music and new-school electronics. Additionally, we find out a little about Studio Electronic's future product plan (a scoop!!!), and learn more about Korg filters than anyone has a right to know! I hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did; Tim is a gracious and thoughtful synth designer, and it was an honor to be able to talk to him.
Adam and Jerod talk with Tim Caswell about getting started in open source, exploring new frontiers, and his latest project Tedit – a development platform that makes programming JavaScript easy and more accessible.
Adam and Jerod talk with Tim Caswell about getting started in open source, exploring new frontiers, and his latest project Tedit – a development platform that makes programming JavaScript easy and more accessible.
The panelists talk to Tim Caswell about js-git.
The panelists talk to Tim Caswell about js-git.
The panelists talk to Tim Caswell about js-git.
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Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel Derick Bailey (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:03 - Derick Bailey Introduction Kendo UI 02:11 - Marionette.js Backbone.js Zombie Views 06:57 - How backbone.js helps with large-scale applications Scalability 08:42 - High-level application architecture path with Marionette.js BBCloneMail BBClone Mail Source Code 13:02 - Breaking down Marionette.js marionettejs / backbone.babysitter marionettejs / backbone.wreqr 16:02 - The value of using Marionette.js Tree views Table rendering 18:23 - Application Structure 20:17 - backbone.wreqr 26:20 - Memory Management Single-page applications Simplicity & maintainability 34:23 - Routing Single responsibility principle boazsender / backbone.routefilter 41:40 - Compatibility Issues Thorax Chaplin tbranyen / backbone.layoutmanager backbone.stickit Composition vs Inheritance 48:57 - Layouts, region managers, and regions Picks Raynos / continuable (Tim) asm.js (Joe) Arrested Development (Joe) Learn CSS Layout (Merrick) Data in Gapminder World (Merrick) BYU Easter Prank (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Engagement Story (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Wedding Day (AJ) Libsyn (Chuck) Get Clicky (Chuck) Arduino (Derick) Johnny-Five (Derick) BackboneRails Screencasts (Derick) Settler's Of Catan (Derick) Ticket To Ride (Derick) Carcassonne (Derick) JavaScript Patterns by Stoyan Stefanov (Derick) Patterns For Large-Scale JavaScript Application Architecture: Addy Osmani (Derick) Learning JavaScript Design Patterns by Addy Osmani (Derick) Developing Backbone.js Applications: Addy Osmani (Derick) Next Week Functional Programming with Zach Kessin Transcript MERRICK: Tim, is there anything that you don’t follow up with, "I actually wrote that a few years ago?" [Laughter] TIM: Yeah. AJ: I was wondering the same thing. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 56 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yep, I’m here. CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Howdy? CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey, everybody. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up? CHUCK: And we have a special guest, Derick Bailey. DERICK: Hey, how’s it going? CHUCK: I guess, I should say I’m on here too. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. Derick, do you want to introduce your self really quickly? DERICK: Sure. Derick Bailey, obviously. I work for Kendo UI at the moment. We build HTML 5 and JavaScript controls for the web and global and all kinds of fun stuff. I’ve been working in JavaScript off and on for, let’s see, it was released in ’94. So, about 19 years, I guess. I got into it right when it was first out in Netscape 2.0 and it was a love/hate relationship for a long, long time until I finally found that I really do love it in the last couple of years and started working with it full time. I’m just enjoying the heck out of it at the moment with all of this server side stuff we can do in Node.js and all the big apps we can build with Backbone and Ember and Angular and everything else. CHUCK: Nice. JOE: That was a lot of enthusiasm, I liked it. MERRICK: Yeah. CHUCK: Yeah. It’s like JavaScript’s cool again or something. DERICK: Yeah, it’s crazy. Everything old is new again. MERRICK: Why can’t I be that happy?
Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel Derick Bailey (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:03 - Derick Bailey Introduction Kendo UI 02:11 - Marionette.js Backbone.js Zombie Views 06:57 - How backbone.js helps with large-scale applications Scalability 08:42 - High-level application architecture path with Marionette.js BBCloneMail BBClone Mail Source Code 13:02 - Breaking down Marionette.js marionettejs / backbone.babysitter marionettejs / backbone.wreqr 16:02 - The value of using Marionette.js Tree views Table rendering 18:23 - Application Structure 20:17 - backbone.wreqr 26:20 - Memory Management Single-page applications Simplicity & maintainability 34:23 - Routing Single responsibility principle boazsender / backbone.routefilter 41:40 - Compatibility Issues Thorax Chaplin tbranyen / backbone.layoutmanager backbone.stickit Composition vs Inheritance 48:57 - Layouts, region managers, and regions Picks Raynos / continuable (Tim) asm.js (Joe) Arrested Development (Joe) Learn CSS Layout (Merrick) Data in Gapminder World (Merrick) BYU Easter Prank (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Engagement Story (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Wedding Day (AJ) Libsyn (Chuck) Get Clicky (Chuck) Arduino (Derick) Johnny-Five (Derick) BackboneRails Screencasts (Derick) Settler's Of Catan (Derick) Ticket To Ride (Derick) Carcassonne (Derick) JavaScript Patterns by Stoyan Stefanov (Derick) Patterns For Large-Scale JavaScript Application Architecture: Addy Osmani (Derick) Learning JavaScript Design Patterns by Addy Osmani (Derick) Developing Backbone.js Applications: Addy Osmani (Derick) Next Week Functional Programming with Zach Kessin Transcript MERRICK: Tim, is there anything that you don’t follow up with, "I actually wrote that a few years ago?" [Laughter] TIM: Yeah. AJ: I was wondering the same thing. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 56 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yep, I’m here. CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Howdy? CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey, everybody. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up? CHUCK: And we have a special guest, Derick Bailey. DERICK: Hey, how’s it going? CHUCK: I guess, I should say I’m on here too. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. Derick, do you want to introduce your self really quickly? DERICK: Sure. Derick Bailey, obviously. I work for Kendo UI at the moment. We build HTML 5 and JavaScript controls for the web and global and all kinds of fun stuff. I’ve been working in JavaScript off and on for, let’s see, it was released in ’94. So, about 19 years, I guess. I got into it right when it was first out in Netscape 2.0 and it was a love/hate relationship for a long, long time until I finally found that I really do love it in the last couple of years and started working with it full time. I’m just enjoying the heck out of it at the moment with all of this server side stuff we can do in Node.js and all the big apps we can build with Backbone and Ember and Angular and everything else. CHUCK: Nice. JOE: That was a lot of enthusiasm, I liked it. MERRICK: Yeah. CHUCK: Yeah. It’s like JavaScript’s cool again or something. DERICK: Yeah, it’s crazy. Everything old is new again. MERRICK: Why can’t I be that happy?
Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel Derick Bailey (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:03 - Derick Bailey Introduction Kendo UI 02:11 - Marionette.js Backbone.js Zombie Views 06:57 - How backbone.js helps with large-scale applications Scalability 08:42 - High-level application architecture path with Marionette.js BBCloneMail BBClone Mail Source Code 13:02 - Breaking down Marionette.js marionettejs / backbone.babysitter marionettejs / backbone.wreqr 16:02 - The value of using Marionette.js Tree views Table rendering 18:23 - Application Structure 20:17 - backbone.wreqr 26:20 - Memory Management Single-page applications Simplicity & maintainability 34:23 - Routing Single responsibility principle boazsender / backbone.routefilter 41:40 - Compatibility Issues Thorax Chaplin tbranyen / backbone.layoutmanager backbone.stickit Composition vs Inheritance 48:57 - Layouts, region managers, and regions Picks Raynos / continuable (Tim) asm.js (Joe) Arrested Development (Joe) Learn CSS Layout (Merrick) Data in Gapminder World (Merrick) BYU Easter Prank (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Engagement Story (AJ) Ryan and Bryndi Wedding Day (AJ) Libsyn (Chuck) Get Clicky (Chuck) Arduino (Derick) Johnny-Five (Derick) BackboneRails Screencasts (Derick) Settler's Of Catan (Derick) Ticket To Ride (Derick) Carcassonne (Derick) JavaScript Patterns by Stoyan Stefanov (Derick) Patterns For Large-Scale JavaScript Application Architecture: Addy Osmani (Derick) Learning JavaScript Design Patterns by Addy Osmani (Derick) Developing Backbone.js Applications: Addy Osmani (Derick) Next Week Functional Programming with Zach Kessin Transcript MERRICK: Tim, is there anything that you don’t follow up with, "I actually wrote that a few years ago?" [Laughter] TIM: Yeah. AJ: I was wondering the same thing. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 56 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yep, I’m here. CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Howdy? CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey, everybody. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up? CHUCK: And we have a special guest, Derick Bailey. DERICK: Hey, how’s it going? CHUCK: I guess, I should say I’m on here too. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. Derick, do you want to introduce your self really quickly? DERICK: Sure. Derick Bailey, obviously. I work for Kendo UI at the moment. We build HTML 5 and JavaScript controls for the web and global and all kinds of fun stuff. I’ve been working in JavaScript off and on for, let’s see, it was released in ’94. So, about 19 years, I guess. I got into it right when it was first out in Netscape 2.0 and it was a love/hate relationship for a long, long time until I finally found that I really do love it in the last couple of years and started working with it full time. I’m just enjoying the heck out of it at the moment with all of this server side stuff we can do in Node.js and all the big apps we can build with Backbone and Ember and Angular and everything else. CHUCK: Nice. JOE: That was a lot of enthusiasm, I liked it. MERRICK: Yeah. CHUCK: Yeah. It’s like JavaScript’s cool again or something. DERICK: Yeah, it’s crazy. Everything old is new again. MERRICK: Why can’t I be that happy?
Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Ariya Hidayat (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 00:48 - David Herman and Ariya Hidayat Introduction 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 023 JSJ Phantom.js with Ariya Hidayat 01:54 - Parsing JavaScript and ASTs and Language Grammars 04:44 - Semantics 06:08 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Esprima: Parser SpiderMonkey 10:37 - Lexer 12:16 - Writing your own language creationix / jack The C Programming Language 17:41 - Parser Generators JavaScriptCore 21:04 - Evolving a Syntax Automatic Semicolon Insertion Post correspondence problem Halting problem 28:05 - Language Design The Rust Programming Language 30:35 - Grammar Regular Expressions (Regex) Backus–Naur Form (BNF) Recursion How to Design Programs (HTDP) 38:00 - Recursive Descent Parsers 42:48 - Benefits of knowing language internals and syntax Apache Lucene - Apache Lucene Core LPeg - Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua 48:48 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Picks Mass Effect 3 (Joe) A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior | Coursera (Joe) Go write a programming language to learn one (Tim) Thumbs and Ammo (Jamison) ISM by Savant (Jamison) Vimcasts (Jamison) The iPhreaks Show (Chuck) Mozy (Chuck) Tech & Go Bright Pink Micro USB Cable (David) asm.js (David) Beyond Office Politics: The Hidden Story of Power, Affiliation & Achievement in the Workplace by Linda Sommer (Ariya) gotwarlost / istanbul (Ariya) Next Week Web Developer Skills Transcript JAMISON: I am Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux, Linix. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 54 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey there. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey guys, what’s up? CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And we have two special guests this week. We have Dave Herman. DAVID: Hey there. CHUCK: Ariya Hidayat. ARIYA: Hello everyone. CHUCK: And these guys are so smart that we brought them back. So, if you’re interested, we’ll put links to the episodes that they were on. David was on when we talked about his book ‘Essential JavaScript’ and Ariya was on when we talked about PhantomJS. JAMISON: Effective JavaScript. CHUCK: Effective? What did I say? MERRICK: Essential. CHUCK: Essential? Well, it’s an essential book on Effective JavaScript. How’s that? [Laughter] MERRICK: Good save. DAVID: At least, you didn’t say Defective JavaScript. [Laughter] CHUCK: No, that’s what I write. I’m really good at writing defective JavaScript. ARIYA: Actually, there’s a book about Essential on Defective JavaScript. CHUCK: I also want to announce really quickly that Fluent Conf has given us a discount code. So, if you want to get 20% off on your registration for Fluent Conf, just enter JAVAJAB and you’ll get 20% off when you register for Fluent Conf. Alright. Well, let’s get started. This is going to be a really, really interesting topic and it’s something that I’ve wanted to know more about for a long time. And I just haven’t delved as deeply into it as I would like to. And that is,
Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Ariya Hidayat (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 00:48 - David Herman and Ariya Hidayat Introduction 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 023 JSJ Phantom.js with Ariya Hidayat 01:54 - Parsing JavaScript and ASTs and Language Grammars 04:44 - Semantics 06:08 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Esprima: Parser SpiderMonkey 10:37 - Lexer 12:16 - Writing your own language creationix / jack The C Programming Language 17:41 - Parser Generators JavaScriptCore 21:04 - Evolving a Syntax Automatic Semicolon Insertion Post correspondence problem Halting problem 28:05 - Language Design The Rust Programming Language 30:35 - Grammar Regular Expressions (Regex) Backus–Naur Form (BNF) Recursion How to Design Programs (HTDP) 38:00 - Recursive Descent Parsers 42:48 - Benefits of knowing language internals and syntax Apache Lucene - Apache Lucene Core LPeg - Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua 48:48 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Picks Mass Effect 3 (Joe) A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior | Coursera (Joe) Go write a programming language to learn one (Tim) Thumbs and Ammo (Jamison) ISM by Savant (Jamison) Vimcasts (Jamison) The iPhreaks Show (Chuck) Mozy (Chuck) Tech & Go Bright Pink Micro USB Cable (David) asm.js (David) Beyond Office Politics: The Hidden Story of Power, Affiliation & Achievement in the Workplace by Linda Sommer (Ariya) gotwarlost / istanbul (Ariya) Next Week Web Developer Skills Transcript JAMISON: I am Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux, Linix. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 54 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey there. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey guys, what’s up? CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And we have two special guests this week. We have Dave Herman. DAVID: Hey there. CHUCK: Ariya Hidayat. ARIYA: Hello everyone. CHUCK: And these guys are so smart that we brought them back. So, if you’re interested, we’ll put links to the episodes that they were on. David was on when we talked about his book ‘Essential JavaScript’ and Ariya was on when we talked about PhantomJS. JAMISON: Effective JavaScript. CHUCK: Effective? What did I say? MERRICK: Essential. CHUCK: Essential? Well, it’s an essential book on Effective JavaScript. How’s that? [Laughter] MERRICK: Good save. DAVID: At least, you didn’t say Defective JavaScript. [Laughter] CHUCK: No, that’s what I write. I’m really good at writing defective JavaScript. ARIYA: Actually, there’s a book about Essential on Defective JavaScript. CHUCK: I also want to announce really quickly that Fluent Conf has given us a discount code. So, if you want to get 20% off on your registration for Fluent Conf, just enter JAVAJAB and you’ll get 20% off when you register for Fluent Conf. Alright. Well, let’s get started. This is going to be a really, really interesting topic and it’s something that I’ve wanted to know more about for a long time. And I just haven’t delved as deeply into it as I would like to. And that is,
Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Ariya Hidayat (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 00:48 - David Herman and Ariya Hidayat Introduction 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 023 JSJ Phantom.js with Ariya Hidayat 01:54 - Parsing JavaScript and ASTs and Language Grammars 04:44 - Semantics 06:08 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Esprima: Parser SpiderMonkey 10:37 - Lexer 12:16 - Writing your own language creationix / jack The C Programming Language 17:41 - Parser Generators JavaScriptCore 21:04 - Evolving a Syntax Automatic Semicolon Insertion Post correspondence problem Halting problem 28:05 - Language Design The Rust Programming Language 30:35 - Grammar Regular Expressions (Regex) Backus–Naur Form (BNF) Recursion How to Design Programs (HTDP) 38:00 - Recursive Descent Parsers 42:48 - Benefits of knowing language internals and syntax Apache Lucene - Apache Lucene Core LPeg - Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua 48:48 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Picks Mass Effect 3 (Joe) A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior | Coursera (Joe) Go write a programming language to learn one (Tim) Thumbs and Ammo (Jamison) ISM by Savant (Jamison) Vimcasts (Jamison) The iPhreaks Show (Chuck) Mozy (Chuck) Tech & Go Bright Pink Micro USB Cable (David) asm.js (David) Beyond Office Politics: The Hidden Story of Power, Affiliation & Achievement in the Workplace by Linda Sommer (Ariya) gotwarlost / istanbul (Ariya) Next Week Web Developer Skills Transcript JAMISON: I am Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux, Linix. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 54 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Hey there. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey guys, what’s up? CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And we have two special guests this week. We have Dave Herman. DAVID: Hey there. CHUCK: Ariya Hidayat. ARIYA: Hello everyone. CHUCK: And these guys are so smart that we brought them back. So, if you’re interested, we’ll put links to the episodes that they were on. David was on when we talked about his book ‘Essential JavaScript’ and Ariya was on when we talked about PhantomJS. JAMISON: Effective JavaScript. CHUCK: Effective? What did I say? MERRICK: Essential. CHUCK: Essential? Well, it’s an essential book on Effective JavaScript. How’s that? [Laughter] MERRICK: Good save. DAVID: At least, you didn’t say Defective JavaScript. [Laughter] CHUCK: No, that’s what I write. I’m really good at writing defective JavaScript. ARIYA: Actually, there’s a book about Essential on Defective JavaScript. CHUCK: I also want to announce really quickly that Fluent Conf has given us a discount code. So, if you want to get 20% off on your registration for Fluent Conf, just enter JAVAJAB and you’ll get 20% off when you register for Fluent Conf. Alright. Well, let’s get started. This is going to be a really, really interesting topic and it’s something that I’ve wanted to know more about for a long time. And I just haven’t delved as deeply into it as I would like to. And that is,
Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:56 - Why JavaScript is hard to learn 02:30 - This 05:30 - Bind 09:11 - Browsers 11:01 - Class-based inheritance Prototypal inheritance 16:37 - New function 18:51 - Closures 20:51 - JavaScript is asynchronous 22:14 - Variable scoping Hoisting 26:14 - Numbers and math (AJ joins the podcast) == ’s vs === ’s 32:15 - Things that make JavaScript hard after learning JavaScript Package management 35:06 - Numbers (cont’d) Crypto Bitwise operations Strings Effective JavaScript by David Herman 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 40:16 - Changing/Evolving JavaScript 43:31 - Environmental reasons that make JavaScript Hard Tooling 48:25 - Few projects are primarily JavaScript 49:07 - Adolescence and the JavaScript Ecosystem 53:59 - Running JavaScript Picks Sharpie Metallic Silver (AJ) The how and why of auto-executing functions (in JavaScript) (AJ) The JavaScript Unicycle (AJ) RSA (Tim) OUYA (Tim) Borderlands 2 (Joe) MechWarrior Tactics (Chuck) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe) Fire Up Ember.js | PeepCode (Chuck) Meet Chef (Part 2 of 2) | PeepCode (Chuck) Next Week MooTools with Arian Stolwijk and Valerio Proietti Transcript TIM: I’m just learning lots of math and attempting to do real math in JavaScript is a fun challenge. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 48 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: We also have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And when this episode goes out, you’re going to have about two weeks left if you wanted to sign up for my Rails Ramp Up course. You’ll find that at RailsRampUp.com. I’ve been working hard on that. This week, we’re going to talk about why JavaScript is hard. And I think it was Tim that came on and said, “So, we’re talking about why JavaScript sucks?” And I didn’t want to call it that but at the same time, it’s one of the -- I think the reasons that people find JavaScript hard and the reasons some people say that JavaScript sucks are kind of the same thing. So, if you want to think of it that way, go right ahead. But I kind of wanted to talk about this for a couple of reasons. One was that I was at the users’ group meeting last week and they talked about some of the things that make JavaScript hard and I don’t remember what they all were. But there were a few things that, there are some concepts that are markedly different from what you find in other languages or at least some of the concepts exist in the other languages but they aren’t kind of as important or as in-your-face as they are in JavaScript. Anyway, the other reason is that I was thinking about when I first started this show. And when I first started the show, I was a web developer that was kind of like, “jQuery, whoo!” And thought jQuery and JavaScript, you know, were mostly the same in the sense that the only way to write sane JavaScript was to use jQuery. And so, I wanted to talk around some of the things that I’ve learned over the last year from the other panelists and help people who are coming into JavaScript understand the real power behind some of these other concepts. So that being said, let’s go ahead and get started. I’m a little curious as to what you guys think are some of the hard things that people run into in JavaScript, like why do they struggle with it? TIM: Alright. So,
Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:56 - Why JavaScript is hard to learn 02:30 - This 05:30 - Bind 09:11 - Browsers 11:01 - Class-based inheritance Prototypal inheritance 16:37 - New function 18:51 - Closures 20:51 - JavaScript is asynchronous 22:14 - Variable scoping Hoisting 26:14 - Numbers and math (AJ joins the podcast) == ’s vs === ’s 32:15 - Things that make JavaScript hard after learning JavaScript Package management 35:06 - Numbers (cont’d) Crypto Bitwise operations Strings Effective JavaScript by David Herman 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 40:16 - Changing/Evolving JavaScript 43:31 - Environmental reasons that make JavaScript Hard Tooling 48:25 - Few projects are primarily JavaScript 49:07 - Adolescence and the JavaScript Ecosystem 53:59 - Running JavaScript Picks Sharpie Metallic Silver (AJ) The how and why of auto-executing functions (in JavaScript) (AJ) The JavaScript Unicycle (AJ) RSA (Tim) OUYA (Tim) Borderlands 2 (Joe) MechWarrior Tactics (Chuck) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe) Fire Up Ember.js | PeepCode (Chuck) Meet Chef (Part 2 of 2) | PeepCode (Chuck) Next Week MooTools with Arian Stolwijk and Valerio Proietti Transcript TIM: I’m just learning lots of math and attempting to do real math in JavaScript is a fun challenge. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 48 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: We also have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And when this episode goes out, you’re going to have about two weeks left if you wanted to sign up for my Rails Ramp Up course. You’ll find that at RailsRampUp.com. I’ve been working hard on that. This week, we’re going to talk about why JavaScript is hard. And I think it was Tim that came on and said, “So, we’re talking about why JavaScript sucks?” And I didn’t want to call it that but at the same time, it’s one of the -- I think the reasons that people find JavaScript hard and the reasons some people say that JavaScript sucks are kind of the same thing. So, if you want to think of it that way, go right ahead. But I kind of wanted to talk about this for a couple of reasons. One was that I was at the users’ group meeting last week and they talked about some of the things that make JavaScript hard and I don’t remember what they all were. But there were a few things that, there are some concepts that are markedly different from what you find in other languages or at least some of the concepts exist in the other languages but they aren’t kind of as important or as in-your-face as they are in JavaScript. Anyway, the other reason is that I was thinking about when I first started this show. And when I first started the show, I was a web developer that was kind of like, “jQuery, whoo!” And thought jQuery and JavaScript, you know, were mostly the same in the sense that the only way to write sane JavaScript was to use jQuery. And so, I wanted to talk around some of the things that I’ve learned over the last year from the other panelists and help people who are coming into JavaScript understand the real power behind some of these other concepts. So that being said, let’s go ahead and get started. I’m a little curious as to what you guys think are some of the hard things that people run into in JavaScript, like why do they struggle with it? TIM: Alright. So,
Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:56 - Why JavaScript is hard to learn 02:30 - This 05:30 - Bind 09:11 - Browsers 11:01 - Class-based inheritance Prototypal inheritance 16:37 - New function 18:51 - Closures 20:51 - JavaScript is asynchronous 22:14 - Variable scoping Hoisting 26:14 - Numbers and math (AJ joins the podcast) == ’s vs === ’s 32:15 - Things that make JavaScript hard after learning JavaScript Package management 35:06 - Numbers (cont’d) Crypto Bitwise operations Strings Effective JavaScript by David Herman 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 40:16 - Changing/Evolving JavaScript 43:31 - Environmental reasons that make JavaScript Hard Tooling 48:25 - Few projects are primarily JavaScript 49:07 - Adolescence and the JavaScript Ecosystem 53:59 - Running JavaScript Picks Sharpie Metallic Silver (AJ) The how and why of auto-executing functions (in JavaScript) (AJ) The JavaScript Unicycle (AJ) RSA (Tim) OUYA (Tim) Borderlands 2 (Joe) MechWarrior Tactics (Chuck) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe) Fire Up Ember.js | PeepCode (Chuck) Meet Chef (Part 2 of 2) | PeepCode (Chuck) Next Week MooTools with Arian Stolwijk and Valerio Proietti Transcript TIM: I’m just learning lots of math and attempting to do real math in JavaScript is a fun challenge. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 48 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: We also have Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And when this episode goes out, you’re going to have about two weeks left if you wanted to sign up for my Rails Ramp Up course. You’ll find that at RailsRampUp.com. I’ve been working hard on that. This week, we’re going to talk about why JavaScript is hard. And I think it was Tim that came on and said, “So, we’re talking about why JavaScript sucks?” And I didn’t want to call it that but at the same time, it’s one of the -- I think the reasons that people find JavaScript hard and the reasons some people say that JavaScript sucks are kind of the same thing. So, if you want to think of it that way, go right ahead. But I kind of wanted to talk about this for a couple of reasons. One was that I was at the users’ group meeting last week and they talked about some of the things that make JavaScript hard and I don’t remember what they all were. But there were a few things that, there are some concepts that are markedly different from what you find in other languages or at least some of the concepts exist in the other languages but they aren’t kind of as important or as in-your-face as they are in JavaScript. Anyway, the other reason is that I was thinking about when I first started this show. And when I first started the show, I was a web developer that was kind of like, “jQuery, whoo!” And thought jQuery and JavaScript, you know, were mostly the same in the sense that the only way to write sane JavaScript was to use jQuery. And so, I wanted to talk around some of the things that I’ve learned over the last year from the other panelists and help people who are coming into JavaScript understand the real power behind some of these other concepts. So that being said, let’s go ahead and get started. I’m a little curious as to what you guys think are some of the hard things that people run into in JavaScript, like why do they struggle with it? TIM: Alright. So,
Panel Tom Dale (twitter github blog Tilde Inc.) James Halliday (twitter github substack.net) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:52 - James Halliday Introduction browserify 02:37 - Tom Dale Introduction iCloud Ember.js Big Data & Hadoop 04:47 - Specialized vs Monolithic github.com/tildeio Idiology Micro Libraries 14:13 - Learning Frameworks 18:04 - Making things modular 25:23 - Picking the right tool for the job 27:44 - voxel.js & emberjs emberjs / packages BPM - Browser Package Manager NPM - Node Packaged Modules testling-ci Backbone.js 38:19 - Module Systems CommonJS 41:14 - Cloud9 Use Case 43:54 - Bugs jQuery Source Code Picks jQuery 2.0 (Merrick) ECMAScript 6 Module Definition (Merrick) AMD (Merrick) Yiruma (Joe) Elementary (Joe) Miracle Berry Tablets (AJ) The Ubuntu You Deserve (AJ) Bravemule (Jamison) RealtimeConf Europe (Tim) visionmedia / cpm (Tim) Why I Love Being A Programmer in Louisville (or, Why I Won’t Relocate to Work for Your Startup: Ernie Miller (Chuck) Is Audio The Next Big Thing In Digital Marketing? [Infographic] (Chuck) testling-ci (James) voxel.js (James) CAMPJS (James) Discourse (Tom) Williams-Sonoma 10-Piece Glass Bowl Set (Tom) The Best Simple Recipes by America’s Test Kitchen (Tom) Next Week Why Javascript is Hard Transcript JAMISON: You can curse but we will just edit it out and replace it with fart noises. TOM: I’ll be providing plenty of my own. [Laughter] JAMISON: Okay, good. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 47 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you not even live! CHUCK: [Laughs] Alright, Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys, it’s tough to follow that. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we have two guests. The first one is Tom Dale. TOM: Hey, thanks for having me. CHUCK: The other is James Halliday. JAMES: Yep. Hello. CHUCK: Welcome to the show, guys. We were having a conversation a while back, I don’t remember if it was during another episode or after another episode. But we were having a discussion over code complexity and having like small simple libraries or small simple sets of functionality versus large monolithic sets of functionality, and how to approach those and when they’re appropriate. So, we brought you guys on to help us explore this because you're experts, right? TOM: I don’t think that’s a fair analysis of the situation, but we can certainly fumble our way through something. [Laughter] CHUCK: Alright. So, why don’t you guys, real quick, just kind of introduce yourselves? Give us a little background on what your experience is so that we know which questions to ask you guys. James, why don’t you start? I know you’ve been on the show before. JAMES: Hello. I suppose I wrote Browserify which is relevant here. It’s a common JS style, bundler packager thing that just uses NPM. And I have a bunch of other libraries. And I really like doing data development as just a bunch of little modules put together. They are all published completely independently on NPM. I think I’m up to like 230-ish some odd modules on NPM now. So, I’ve been doing that and I really like that style.
Panel Tom Dale (twitter github blog Tilde Inc.) James Halliday (twitter github substack.net) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:52 - James Halliday Introduction browserify 02:37 - Tom Dale Introduction iCloud Ember.js Big Data & Hadoop 04:47 - Specialized vs Monolithic github.com/tildeio Idiology Micro Libraries 14:13 - Learning Frameworks 18:04 - Making things modular 25:23 - Picking the right tool for the job 27:44 - voxel.js & emberjs emberjs / packages BPM - Browser Package Manager NPM - Node Packaged Modules testling-ci Backbone.js 38:19 - Module Systems CommonJS 41:14 - Cloud9 Use Case 43:54 - Bugs jQuery Source Code Picks jQuery 2.0 (Merrick) ECMAScript 6 Module Definition (Merrick) AMD (Merrick) Yiruma (Joe) Elementary (Joe) Miracle Berry Tablets (AJ) The Ubuntu You Deserve (AJ) Bravemule (Jamison) RealtimeConf Europe (Tim) visionmedia / cpm (Tim) Why I Love Being A Programmer in Louisville (or, Why I Won’t Relocate to Work for Your Startup: Ernie Miller (Chuck) Is Audio The Next Big Thing In Digital Marketing? [Infographic] (Chuck) testling-ci (James) voxel.js (James) CAMPJS (James) Discourse (Tom) Williams-Sonoma 10-Piece Glass Bowl Set (Tom) The Best Simple Recipes by America’s Test Kitchen (Tom) Next Week Why Javascript is Hard Transcript JAMISON: You can curse but we will just edit it out and replace it with fart noises. TOM: I’ll be providing plenty of my own. [Laughter] JAMISON: Okay, good. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 47 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you not even live! CHUCK: [Laughs] Alright, Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys, it’s tough to follow that. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we have two guests. The first one is Tom Dale. TOM: Hey, thanks for having me. CHUCK: The other is James Halliday. JAMES: Yep. Hello. CHUCK: Welcome to the show, guys. We were having a conversation a while back, I don’t remember if it was during another episode or after another episode. But we were having a discussion over code complexity and having like small simple libraries or small simple sets of functionality versus large monolithic sets of functionality, and how to approach those and when they’re appropriate. So, we brought you guys on to help us explore this because you're experts, right? TOM: I don’t think that’s a fair analysis of the situation, but we can certainly fumble our way through something. [Laughter] CHUCK: Alright. So, why don’t you guys, real quick, just kind of introduce yourselves? Give us a little background on what your experience is so that we know which questions to ask you guys. James, why don’t you start? I know you’ve been on the show before. JAMES: Hello. I suppose I wrote Browserify which is relevant here. It’s a common JS style, bundler packager thing that just uses NPM. And I have a bunch of other libraries. And I really like doing data development as just a bunch of little modules put together. They are all published completely independently on NPM. I think I’m up to like 230-ish some odd modules on NPM now. So, I’ve been doing that and I really like that style.
Panel Tom Dale (twitter github blog Tilde Inc.) James Halliday (twitter github substack.net) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:52 - James Halliday Introduction browserify 02:37 - Tom Dale Introduction iCloud Ember.js Big Data & Hadoop 04:47 - Specialized vs Monolithic github.com/tildeio Idiology Micro Libraries 14:13 - Learning Frameworks 18:04 - Making things modular 25:23 - Picking the right tool for the job 27:44 - voxel.js & emberjs emberjs / packages BPM - Browser Package Manager NPM - Node Packaged Modules testling-ci Backbone.js 38:19 - Module Systems CommonJS 41:14 - Cloud9 Use Case 43:54 - Bugs jQuery Source Code Picks jQuery 2.0 (Merrick) ECMAScript 6 Module Definition (Merrick) AMD (Merrick) Yiruma (Joe) Elementary (Joe) Miracle Berry Tablets (AJ) The Ubuntu You Deserve (AJ) Bravemule (Jamison) RealtimeConf Europe (Tim) visionmedia / cpm (Tim) Why I Love Being A Programmer in Louisville (or, Why I Won’t Relocate to Work for Your Startup: Ernie Miller (Chuck) Is Audio The Next Big Thing In Digital Marketing? [Infographic] (Chuck) testling-ci (James) voxel.js (James) CAMPJS (James) Discourse (Tom) Williams-Sonoma 10-Piece Glass Bowl Set (Tom) The Best Simple Recipes by America’s Test Kitchen (Tom) Next Week Why Javascript is Hard Transcript JAMISON: You can curse but we will just edit it out and replace it with fart noises. TOM: I’ll be providing plenty of my own. [Laughter] JAMISON: Okay, good. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 47 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you not even live! CHUCK: [Laughs] Alright, Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys, it’s tough to follow that. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey. CHUCK: Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we have two guests. The first one is Tom Dale. TOM: Hey, thanks for having me. CHUCK: The other is James Halliday. JAMES: Yep. Hello. CHUCK: Welcome to the show, guys. We were having a conversation a while back, I don’t remember if it was during another episode or after another episode. But we were having a discussion over code complexity and having like small simple libraries or small simple sets of functionality versus large monolithic sets of functionality, and how to approach those and when they’re appropriate. So, we brought you guys on to help us explore this because you're experts, right? TOM: I don’t think that’s a fair analysis of the situation, but we can certainly fumble our way through something. [Laughter] CHUCK: Alright. So, why don’t you guys, real quick, just kind of introduce yourselves? Give us a little background on what your experience is so that we know which questions to ask you guys. James, why don’t you start? I know you’ve been on the show before. JAMES: Hello. I suppose I wrote Browserify which is relevant here. It’s a common JS style, bundler packager thing that just uses NPM. And I have a bunch of other libraries. And I really like doing data development as just a bunch of little modules put together. They are all published completely independently on NPM. I think I’m up to like 230-ish some odd modules on NPM now. So, I’ve been doing that and I really like that style.
Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:01 - David Herman Introduction Mozilla Mozilla Research TC39 - ECMAScript 01:45 - Effective JavaScript by David Herman 04:27 - Reader Opinions & Controversy JavaScript:The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford 09:09 - ES3 Shimming 11:25 - Code: effectivejs/code 12:50 - Parts of the Book 15:54 - Blocking Web Gestures With getUserMedia: Part1: Aaron Frost 17:28 - Book Level of Difficulty Effective C++ by Scott Meyers 20:09 - Asynchronous APIs Recursion Tail-Call Optimization 26:51 - Programming Language Academics 30:55 - DOM Integration Effective C++ by Scott Meyers Effective STL by Scott Meyers 31:50 - Advice for JavaScript Beginners Eloquent Javascript by Marijn Haverbeke JavaScript Enlightenment by Cody Lindley How to Design Programs 33:16 - Advice for Programmers in General 34:53 - Performance 38:16 - The JavaScript Language 40:45 - Primitives Vs Wrapper Classes 42:37 - Semicolons 45:24 - -0/+0 Picks Jack (Tim) Putting Constants on the Left (AJ) Getting Started with Amazon AWS EC2 (1 year free VPS web hosting) (AJ) Notes on Distributed Systems for Young Bloods: Jeff Hodges (Jamison) Hurdles getting started with Ember.js (Jamison) Grieves (Merrick) The Scala Programming Language (Merrick) Antoine Dufour (Joe) Torchlight II (Joe) Appliness Digital Magazine (Joe) Powermat Home & Office Mat (Chuck) Une Bobine (Chuck) The Rust Programming Language (David) mozilla/servo (David) Roominate Toy (David) OpenWest Conference Call For Papers (AJ) Transcript CHUCK: The most effective way to hack is quickly. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 44 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hello. CHUCK: AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the living roomisphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up guys? CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest, Dave Herman. DAVE: Hi there. CHUCK: So Dave, you haven’t been on the show before. Do you want to introduce yourself? DAVE: Sure. I work for Mozilla. I have sort of helped create this new department called Mozilla Research where we do a whole bunch of web platform experiments and new technology for the web. And I also am on the horribly named TC39, the standards organization for ECMAScript, working on the next edition of the JavaScript standard. CHUCK: Cool. DAVE: Oh, and I wrote this book. CHUCK: You did this book. TIM: You didn’t just read it and then become an expert on the book and then talk on a podcast about it? [Laughter] CHUCK: So, I heard about this book. I’m a little curious when you started writing the book, I mean, what was the idea behind it? What inspired it? DAVE: To tell you the truth, I had no intention of writing a book, it didn’t occur to me. But the publishers reached out to me, I guess they heard of me through TC39, maybe ‘es-discuss’ or something. But they said, “Okay we’ve got this series, this Effective series.” And I was very familiar with Effective C++ which I think is a great book and I really like the format. And just when they approached me, I kind of thought, “You know,
Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:01 - David Herman Introduction Mozilla Mozilla Research TC39 - ECMAScript 01:45 - Effective JavaScript by David Herman 04:27 - Reader Opinions & Controversy JavaScript:The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford 09:09 - ES3 Shimming 11:25 - Code: effectivejs/code 12:50 - Parts of the Book 15:54 - Blocking Web Gestures With getUserMedia: Part1: Aaron Frost 17:28 - Book Level of Difficulty Effective C++ by Scott Meyers 20:09 - Asynchronous APIs Recursion Tail-Call Optimization 26:51 - Programming Language Academics 30:55 - DOM Integration Effective C++ by Scott Meyers Effective STL by Scott Meyers 31:50 - Advice for JavaScript Beginners Eloquent Javascript by Marijn Haverbeke JavaScript Enlightenment by Cody Lindley How to Design Programs 33:16 - Advice for Programmers in General 34:53 - Performance 38:16 - The JavaScript Language 40:45 - Primitives Vs Wrapper Classes 42:37 - Semicolons 45:24 - -0/+0 Picks Jack (Tim) Putting Constants on the Left (AJ) Getting Started with Amazon AWS EC2 (1 year free VPS web hosting) (AJ) Notes on Distributed Systems for Young Bloods: Jeff Hodges (Jamison) Hurdles getting started with Ember.js (Jamison) Grieves (Merrick) The Scala Programming Language (Merrick) Antoine Dufour (Joe) Torchlight II (Joe) Appliness Digital Magazine (Joe) Powermat Home & Office Mat (Chuck) Une Bobine (Chuck) The Rust Programming Language (David) mozilla/servo (David) Roominate Toy (David) OpenWest Conference Call For Papers (AJ) Transcript CHUCK: The most effective way to hack is quickly. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 44 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hello. CHUCK: AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the living roomisphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up guys? CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest, Dave Herman. DAVE: Hi there. CHUCK: So Dave, you haven’t been on the show before. Do you want to introduce yourself? DAVE: Sure. I work for Mozilla. I have sort of helped create this new department called Mozilla Research where we do a whole bunch of web platform experiments and new technology for the web. And I also am on the horribly named TC39, the standards organization for ECMAScript, working on the next edition of the JavaScript standard. CHUCK: Cool. DAVE: Oh, and I wrote this book. CHUCK: You did this book. TIM: You didn’t just read it and then become an expert on the book and then talk on a podcast about it? [Laughter] CHUCK: So, I heard about this book. I’m a little curious when you started writing the book, I mean, what was the idea behind it? What inspired it? DAVE: To tell you the truth, I had no intention of writing a book, it didn’t occur to me. But the publishers reached out to me, I guess they heard of me through TC39, maybe ‘es-discuss’ or something. But they said, “Okay we’ve got this series, this Effective series.” And I was very familiar with Effective C++ which I think is a great book and I really like the format. And just when they approached me, I kind of thought, “You know,
Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:01 - David Herman Introduction Mozilla Mozilla Research TC39 - ECMAScript 01:45 - Effective JavaScript by David Herman 04:27 - Reader Opinions & Controversy JavaScript:The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford 09:09 - ES3 Shimming 11:25 - Code: effectivejs/code 12:50 - Parts of the Book 15:54 - Blocking Web Gestures With getUserMedia: Part1: Aaron Frost 17:28 - Book Level of Difficulty Effective C++ by Scott Meyers 20:09 - Asynchronous APIs Recursion Tail-Call Optimization 26:51 - Programming Language Academics 30:55 - DOM Integration Effective C++ by Scott Meyers Effective STL by Scott Meyers 31:50 - Advice for JavaScript Beginners Eloquent Javascript by Marijn Haverbeke JavaScript Enlightenment by Cody Lindley How to Design Programs 33:16 - Advice for Programmers in General 34:53 - Performance 38:16 - The JavaScript Language 40:45 - Primitives Vs Wrapper Classes 42:37 - Semicolons 45:24 - -0/+0 Picks Jack (Tim) Putting Constants on the Left (AJ) Getting Started with Amazon AWS EC2 (1 year free VPS web hosting) (AJ) Notes on Distributed Systems for Young Bloods: Jeff Hodges (Jamison) Hurdles getting started with Ember.js (Jamison) Grieves (Merrick) The Scala Programming Language (Merrick) Antoine Dufour (Joe) Torchlight II (Joe) Appliness Digital Magazine (Joe) Powermat Home & Office Mat (Chuck) Une Bobine (Chuck) The Rust Programming Language (David) mozilla/servo (David) Roominate Toy (David) OpenWest Conference Call For Papers (AJ) Transcript CHUCK: The most effective way to hack is quickly. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 44 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hello. CHUCK: AJ O’Neal. AJ: Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the living roomisphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi. CHUCK: Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: What’s up guys? CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest, Dave Herman. DAVE: Hi there. CHUCK: So Dave, you haven’t been on the show before. Do you want to introduce yourself? DAVE: Sure. I work for Mozilla. I have sort of helped create this new department called Mozilla Research where we do a whole bunch of web platform experiments and new technology for the web. And I also am on the horribly named TC39, the standards organization for ECMAScript, working on the next edition of the JavaScript standard. CHUCK: Cool. DAVE: Oh, and I wrote this book. CHUCK: You did this book. TIM: You didn’t just read it and then become an expert on the book and then talk on a podcast about it? [Laughter] CHUCK: So, I heard about this book. I’m a little curious when you started writing the book, I mean, what was the idea behind it? What inspired it? DAVE: To tell you the truth, I had no intention of writing a book, it didn’t occur to me. But the publishers reached out to me, I guess they heard of me through TC39, maybe ‘es-discuss’ or something. But they said, “Okay we’ve got this series, this Effective series.” And I was very familiar with Effective C++ which I think is a great book and I really like the format. And just when they approached me, I kind of thought, “You know,
Panel Trevor Tingey (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:16 - Conferences Attended Visual Studio Live (VS Live) (Joe) Utah Open Source (Joe & Chuck) Utah JS (Joe) MountainWest RubyConf (Trevor & Chuck) JSConf (Trevor) UberConference (Trevor) Web 2.0 (Trevor) RailsConf (Chuck) RubyConf (Chuck) Aloha Ruby Conference (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) 03:24 - Preparing/Planning for Conferences 08:39 - Chatting with Others/Making Contacts at Conferences Hackathons Social Activities 14:36 - Hackathons/Code Retreats/Workshops Global Day of Coderetreat DevTeach 18:46 - Methodology Conferences Agile Roots 22:42 - Industry Conferences vs Local/Regional Conferences Multiple Tracks Networking 28:12 - Making the Most out of Sessions Taking Notes Follow Along in Code Sessions Seating Choice 33:02 - Lightning Talks Speaking Exposure 35:37 - Speaking at Conferences (Tim Joins) Veteran Speakers vs Unique Speakers 41:00 - Submitting Proposals Interesting Title 42:56 - Mistakes People Make Speaking at Conferences Underestimating Time Practice Your Talk Be Excited 45:24 - Preparing Slides Bullet Points Color/Contrast 50:03 - Watch Your Audience Picks The Hobbit (Joe) RiffTrax (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) Blue Microphones: Yeti (Tim) Closure Compiler Service (Chuck) Headline Hacks (Chuck) Once Upon a Time (Trevor) Sublime Text 2 (Trevor) Jack Reacher (Trevor) Foo Fighters (Trevor) Transcript CHUCK: From the meat lockers of Domo. [This episode today is sponsored by Component One. Makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 40 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and we have a special guest, that’s Trevor Tingey. TREVOR: Hello. CHUCK: He’s joining us from Domo. We had some folks on vacation and stuff and we were short a few people. So, Joe invited one of his co-workers. I don’t really have co-workers per se since I’m doing contract stuff most of the time. Anyway... JOE: Is your cat your co-worker, Chuck? CHUCK: What was that? JOE: Is your cat your co-worker? CHUCK: I don’t have a cat. JOE: A dog? CHUCK: Nope, I don’t have a dog either. I’m allergic to cats. But yeah, no cats. Anyway, we’re going to talk this week about making the most of conferences. I’m a little curious, what conferences have you guys been able to attend over the last few years or over your career? JOE: I was a Microsoft developer before I went fully front end. So I went to several Microsoft development conferences, VS Live was probably my favorite one. Recently, I’ve been to the Utah Open Source conference and the Utah JavaScript conference, really liked those. CHUCK: Yeah, the local conferences are fun. What about you, Trevor? TREVOR: I’ve been to a lot of conferences. Recently, I went to the Mountain West Ruby Conference. That was entertaining. I went to the JavaScript, JS Conf and that was the first Node Conf also was kind of dependent on the end of the JS Conf and that was up in Portland. I really liked that one. Like Joe, I used to do some Microsoft stuff. So, I’ve been to Microsoft before and several other ones in between, Uber Conf, Web 2.0 in New York. JOE: Does Comdex count? I went to Comdex once. [laughs] CHUCK: Yeah, I didn’t really start going to conferences until I gotten into Ruby. So, most of the conferences I’ve been to were Ruby related, though I did go the Utah Open Source and some of those. Yeah,
Panel Trevor Tingey (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:16 - Conferences Attended Visual Studio Live (VS Live) (Joe) Utah Open Source (Joe & Chuck) Utah JS (Joe) MountainWest RubyConf (Trevor & Chuck) JSConf (Trevor) UberConference (Trevor) Web 2.0 (Trevor) RailsConf (Chuck) RubyConf (Chuck) Aloha Ruby Conference (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) 03:24 - Preparing/Planning for Conferences 08:39 - Chatting with Others/Making Contacts at Conferences Hackathons Social Activities 14:36 - Hackathons/Code Retreats/Workshops Global Day of Coderetreat DevTeach 18:46 - Methodology Conferences Agile Roots 22:42 - Industry Conferences vs Local/Regional Conferences Multiple Tracks Networking 28:12 - Making the Most out of Sessions Taking Notes Follow Along in Code Sessions Seating Choice 33:02 - Lightning Talks Speaking Exposure 35:37 - Speaking at Conferences (Tim Joins) Veteran Speakers vs Unique Speakers 41:00 - Submitting Proposals Interesting Title 42:56 - Mistakes People Make Speaking at Conferences Underestimating Time Practice Your Talk Be Excited 45:24 - Preparing Slides Bullet Points Color/Contrast 50:03 - Watch Your Audience Picks The Hobbit (Joe) RiffTrax (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) Blue Microphones: Yeti (Tim) Closure Compiler Service (Chuck) Headline Hacks (Chuck) Once Upon a Time (Trevor) Sublime Text 2 (Trevor) Jack Reacher (Trevor) Foo Fighters (Trevor) Transcript CHUCK: From the meat lockers of Domo. [This episode today is sponsored by Component One. Makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 40 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and we have a special guest, that’s Trevor Tingey. TREVOR: Hello. CHUCK: He’s joining us from Domo. We had some folks on vacation and stuff and we were short a few people. So, Joe invited one of his co-workers. I don’t really have co-workers per se since I’m doing contract stuff most of the time. Anyway... JOE: Is your cat your co-worker, Chuck? CHUCK: What was that? JOE: Is your cat your co-worker? CHUCK: I don’t have a cat. JOE: A dog? CHUCK: Nope, I don’t have a dog either. I’m allergic to cats. But yeah, no cats. Anyway, we’re going to talk this week about making the most of conferences. I’m a little curious, what conferences have you guys been able to attend over the last few years or over your career? JOE: I was a Microsoft developer before I went fully front end. So I went to several Microsoft development conferences, VS Live was probably my favorite one. Recently, I’ve been to the Utah Open Source conference and the Utah JavaScript conference, really liked those. CHUCK: Yeah, the local conferences are fun. What about you, Trevor? TREVOR: I’ve been to a lot of conferences. Recently, I went to the Mountain West Ruby Conference. That was entertaining. I went to the JavaScript, JS Conf and that was the first Node Conf also was kind of dependent on the end of the JS Conf and that was up in Portland. I really liked that one. Like Joe, I used to do some Microsoft stuff. So, I’ve been to Microsoft before and several other ones in between, Uber Conf, Web 2.0 in New York. JOE: Does Comdex count? I went to Comdex once. [laughs] CHUCK: Yeah, I didn’t really start going to conferences until I gotten into Ruby. So, most of the conferences I’ve been to were Ruby related, though I did go the Utah Open Source and some of those. Yeah,
Panel Trevor Tingey (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:16 - Conferences Attended Visual Studio Live (VS Live) (Joe) Utah Open Source (Joe & Chuck) Utah JS (Joe) MountainWest RubyConf (Trevor & Chuck) JSConf (Trevor) UberConference (Trevor) Web 2.0 (Trevor) RailsConf (Chuck) RubyConf (Chuck) Aloha Ruby Conference (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) 03:24 - Preparing/Planning for Conferences 08:39 - Chatting with Others/Making Contacts at Conferences Hackathons Social Activities 14:36 - Hackathons/Code Retreats/Workshops Global Day of Coderetreat DevTeach 18:46 - Methodology Conferences Agile Roots 22:42 - Industry Conferences vs Local/Regional Conferences Multiple Tracks Networking 28:12 - Making the Most out of Sessions Taking Notes Follow Along in Code Sessions Seating Choice 33:02 - Lightning Talks Speaking Exposure 35:37 - Speaking at Conferences (Tim Joins) Veteran Speakers vs Unique Speakers 41:00 - Submitting Proposals Interesting Title 42:56 - Mistakes People Make Speaking at Conferences Underestimating Time Practice Your Talk Be Excited 45:24 - Preparing Slides Bullet Points Color/Contrast 50:03 - Watch Your Audience Picks The Hobbit (Joe) RiffTrax (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) Blue Microphones: Yeti (Tim) Closure Compiler Service (Chuck) Headline Hacks (Chuck) Once Upon a Time (Trevor) Sublime Text 2 (Trevor) Jack Reacher (Trevor) Foo Fighters (Trevor) Transcript CHUCK: From the meat lockers of Domo. [This episode today is sponsored by Component One. Makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 40 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and we have a special guest, that’s Trevor Tingey. TREVOR: Hello. CHUCK: He’s joining us from Domo. We had some folks on vacation and stuff and we were short a few people. So, Joe invited one of his co-workers. I don’t really have co-workers per se since I’m doing contract stuff most of the time. Anyway... JOE: Is your cat your co-worker, Chuck? CHUCK: What was that? JOE: Is your cat your co-worker? CHUCK: I don’t have a cat. JOE: A dog? CHUCK: Nope, I don’t have a dog either. I’m allergic to cats. But yeah, no cats. Anyway, we’re going to talk this week about making the most of conferences. I’m a little curious, what conferences have you guys been able to attend over the last few years or over your career? JOE: I was a Microsoft developer before I went fully front end. So I went to several Microsoft development conferences, VS Live was probably my favorite one. Recently, I’ve been to the Utah Open Source conference and the Utah JavaScript conference, really liked those. CHUCK: Yeah, the local conferences are fun. What about you, Trevor? TREVOR: I’ve been to a lot of conferences. Recently, I went to the Mountain West Ruby Conference. That was entertaining. I went to the JavaScript, JS Conf and that was the first Node Conf also was kind of dependent on the end of the JS Conf and that was up in Portland. I really liked that one. Like Joe, I used to do some Microsoft stuff. So, I’ve been to Microsoft before and several other ones in between, Uber Conf, Web 2.0 in New York. JOE: Does Comdex count? I went to Comdex once. [laughs] CHUCK: Yeah, I didn’t really start going to conferences until I gotten into Ruby. So, most of the conferences I’ve been to were Ruby related, though I did go the Utah Open Source and some of those. Yeah,
Panel Tim Disney (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code) Discussion 01:23 - Book Club Episode: Effective JavaScript by David Herman Episode will record on January 10th and air January 18th 01:48 - Sweet.js Macros: syntactic transformations Build-your-own CoffeeScript Cleans up code 07:03 - Benefits and Disadvantages 10:37 - Using Macros Where are they needed? Where are they not needed? Why sweet.js Matters 13:10 - Pattern Matching 15:36 - Domain Specific Languages 16:48 - Hygiene 18:50 - Class Macro 20:28 - Limits 21:38 - Language Support 25:18 - Nesting 28:40 - Cool Macros Example macros 30:13 - Sweet.js: What is coming? Defining Macros Syntax Rules 33:06 - Sweet.js mailing list IRC channel #sweet.js on irc.mozilla.org Picks Google+ Hangouts (AJ) The Man from Earth (Jamison) TypeScript (Joe) Red Dawn (Joe) Creationix Innovations (Tim C.) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (Tim D.) Growing a Language by Guy Steele (Tim D.) Downton Abbey (Chuck) Rails Ramp Up (Chuck) Transcript JAMISON: Oh, my goodness! You can like, put a beard on them and it follows their face! JOE: Isn’t that awesome? [Crosstalk] JAMISON: How do I get rid of it? Actually, it was really distracting. I didn’t know you guys would see that. [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 39 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. We have AJ O’Neal on mute. We have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: I am not on mute, I hope. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi everybody. CHUCK: We have Tim Caswell. TIM C: Hello. CHUCK: We also have a special guest, that’s Tim Disney. TIM D: Hi. CHUCK: AJ, did you figure out your mute issues? That would be a no. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about Sweet.js. Before we get started, there is one thing I want to announce really quickly and that is that we have scheduled a Book Club episode for January 10th and that’s going to be with David Herman who wrote ‘Effective JavaScript’. So it’s a pretty slim book, should be easy to get through. But yeah, if you want to follow along with that discussion, then by all means, join in. Alright. Let’s talk about Sweet.js. Has anyone… AJ: Can you hear me now? CHUCK: Yeah. AJ: Okay, cool. CHUCK: So, I went and looked at it. I fiddled with it a little bit. I didn’t have enough time to really get into it the way that I wanted to. It looks really cool though. What kind of gave you the idea of doing something like macros for JavaScript, Tim? TIM D: Well, I guess it’s just something I’ve sort of wanted for JavaScript for awhile. But the main sort of impetus I guess was, I was interning at Mozilla Research this past summer. And Dave Herman who has worked on macros in the past basically said he thought that it was sort of finally possible to do for JavaScript. And so, that was a possible sort of intern project for the summer. And so, that’s what got it started. JAMISON: So can you back up and talk about what macros are, because I’m sure there are lots of people that don’t know and lots of people that hear macros and think like CP process are macros. TIM D: Right yeah, exactly. So, C style macros are the sort of painful and sort of limited. The macros that Sweet.js implements are much more in line with sort of scheme style macros. So,
Panel Tim Disney (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code) Discussion 01:23 - Book Club Episode: Effective JavaScript by David Herman Episode will record on January 10th and air January 18th 01:48 - Sweet.js Macros: syntactic transformations Build-your-own CoffeeScript Cleans up code 07:03 - Benefits and Disadvantages 10:37 - Using Macros Where are they needed? Where are they not needed? Why sweet.js Matters 13:10 - Pattern Matching 15:36 - Domain Specific Languages 16:48 - Hygiene 18:50 - Class Macro 20:28 - Limits 21:38 - Language Support 25:18 - Nesting 28:40 - Cool Macros Example macros 30:13 - Sweet.js: What is coming? Defining Macros Syntax Rules 33:06 - Sweet.js mailing list IRC channel #sweet.js on irc.mozilla.org Picks Google+ Hangouts (AJ) The Man from Earth (Jamison) TypeScript (Joe) Red Dawn (Joe) Creationix Innovations (Tim C.) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (Tim D.) Growing a Language by Guy Steele (Tim D.) Downton Abbey (Chuck) Rails Ramp Up (Chuck) Transcript JAMISON: Oh, my goodness! You can like, put a beard on them and it follows their face! JOE: Isn’t that awesome? [Crosstalk] JAMISON: How do I get rid of it? Actually, it was really distracting. I didn’t know you guys would see that. [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 39 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. We have AJ O’Neal on mute. We have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: I am not on mute, I hope. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi everybody. CHUCK: We have Tim Caswell. TIM C: Hello. CHUCK: We also have a special guest, that’s Tim Disney. TIM D: Hi. CHUCK: AJ, did you figure out your mute issues? That would be a no. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about Sweet.js. Before we get started, there is one thing I want to announce really quickly and that is that we have scheduled a Book Club episode for January 10th and that’s going to be with David Herman who wrote ‘Effective JavaScript’. So it’s a pretty slim book, should be easy to get through. But yeah, if you want to follow along with that discussion, then by all means, join in. Alright. Let’s talk about Sweet.js. Has anyone… AJ: Can you hear me now? CHUCK: Yeah. AJ: Okay, cool. CHUCK: So, I went and looked at it. I fiddled with it a little bit. I didn’t have enough time to really get into it the way that I wanted to. It looks really cool though. What kind of gave you the idea of doing something like macros for JavaScript, Tim? TIM D: Well, I guess it’s just something I’ve sort of wanted for JavaScript for awhile. But the main sort of impetus I guess was, I was interning at Mozilla Research this past summer. And Dave Herman who has worked on macros in the past basically said he thought that it was sort of finally possible to do for JavaScript. And so, that was a possible sort of intern project for the summer. And so, that’s what got it started. JAMISON: So can you back up and talk about what macros are, because I’m sure there are lots of people that don’t know and lots of people that hear macros and think like CP process are macros. TIM D: Right yeah, exactly. So, C style macros are the sort of painful and sort of limited. The macros that Sweet.js implements are much more in line with sort of scheme style macros. So,
Panel Tim Disney (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code) Discussion 01:23 - Book Club Episode: Effective JavaScript by David Herman Episode will record on January 10th and air January 18th 01:48 - Sweet.js Macros: syntactic transformations Build-your-own CoffeeScript Cleans up code 07:03 - Benefits and Disadvantages 10:37 - Using Macros Where are they needed? Where are they not needed? Why sweet.js Matters 13:10 - Pattern Matching 15:36 - Domain Specific Languages 16:48 - Hygiene 18:50 - Class Macro 20:28 - Limits 21:38 - Language Support 25:18 - Nesting 28:40 - Cool Macros Example macros 30:13 - Sweet.js: What is coming? Defining Macros Syntax Rules 33:06 - Sweet.js mailing list IRC channel #sweet.js on irc.mozilla.org Picks Google+ Hangouts (AJ) The Man from Earth (Jamison) TypeScript (Joe) Red Dawn (Joe) Creationix Innovations (Tim C.) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (Tim D.) Growing a Language by Guy Steele (Tim D.) Downton Abbey (Chuck) Rails Ramp Up (Chuck) Transcript JAMISON: Oh, my goodness! You can like, put a beard on them and it follows their face! JOE: Isn’t that awesome? [Crosstalk] JAMISON: How do I get rid of it? Actually, it was really distracting. I didn’t know you guys would see that. [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 39 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. We have AJ O’Neal on mute. We have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: I am not on mute, I hope. CHUCK: We have Joe Eames. JOE: Hi everybody. CHUCK: We have Tim Caswell. TIM C: Hello. CHUCK: We also have a special guest, that’s Tim Disney. TIM D: Hi. CHUCK: AJ, did you figure out your mute issues? That would be a no. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about Sweet.js. Before we get started, there is one thing I want to announce really quickly and that is that we have scheduled a Book Club episode for January 10th and that’s going to be with David Herman who wrote ‘Effective JavaScript’. So it’s a pretty slim book, should be easy to get through. But yeah, if you want to follow along with that discussion, then by all means, join in. Alright. Let’s talk about Sweet.js. Has anyone… AJ: Can you hear me now? CHUCK: Yeah. AJ: Okay, cool. CHUCK: So, I went and looked at it. I fiddled with it a little bit. I didn’t have enough time to really get into it the way that I wanted to. It looks really cool though. What kind of gave you the idea of doing something like macros for JavaScript, Tim? TIM D: Well, I guess it’s just something I’ve sort of wanted for JavaScript for awhile. But the main sort of impetus I guess was, I was interning at Mozilla Research this past summer. And Dave Herman who has worked on macros in the past basically said he thought that it was sort of finally possible to do for JavaScript. And so, that was a possible sort of intern project for the summer. And so, that’s what got it started. JAMISON: So can you back up and talk about what macros are, because I’m sure there are lots of people that don’t know and lots of people that hear macros and think like CP process are macros. TIM D: Right yeah, exactly. So, C style macros are the sort of painful and sort of limited. The macros that Sweet.js implements are much more in line with sort of scheme style macros. So,
Panel Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:15 - node-webkit Similar to PhoneGap Chrome native apps Chromium 05:31 - Event loops and the browsers 06:53 - Example apps Light Table app.js 07:42 - node-webkit vs app.js 10:00 - Chrome Chrome Apps: JavaScript Desktop Development 17:44 - Security implications 25:11 - Testing node-webkit applications 27:19 - Getting a web app into a native app 31:33 - Creating Your First AppJS App with Custom Chrome Chromeless Browser Chromeless replacement Picks How mismanagement, incompetence and pride killed THQ's Kaos Studios (Jamison) The Insufficiency of Good Design by Sarah Mei (Jamison) app.js (Tim) node-webkit (Tim) Macaroni Grill’s Butternut Asiago Tortellaci (AJ) JCPenney (AJ) Mac OS Stickies (Chuck) Fieldrunners (Chuck) Node Knockout Transcript AJ: Let’s talk about boring stuff. What did you eat for breakfast? TIM: I had donuts. AJ: That sounds nutritious and delicious. [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 35 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And AJ O’Neal. And I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. This week, we are going to be talking about ‘Node-webkit’. It seems like Tim is the most familiar with it, so why don’t you jump in and tell us a little bit about it? TIM: All right. Basically the idea is to make desktop apps using Node and then having HTML as your display layer for your widgets. And I start a project doing this several years ago from Topcube, but I failed miserably because I'm not that good of a C engineer. And since then, a few projects have taken up the idea. Node-webkit is one done by Intel and the main engineer there is Roger Wang. So on Roger Wang’s GitHub there is node-webkit. And the other popular one is called ‘app.js’ and I think there is a couple others as well. And some other people have taken over my Topcube project and they use it for some maps app. And all these projects had the basic idea of you have a desktop native app that has Node and node-webkit inside of it. CHUCK: So, is it kind of like PhoneGap or some of these other things for mobile? TIM: Yeah. It’s similar to PhoneGap in that, you get more privileges than a browser would have in a more native experience. Instead of just the PhoneGap extensions, you get all of Node -- you get the full Node environment -- which means you can use all that existing libraries and ecosystem. JAMISON: So how does this compare to the Chrome native apps thing? Because I know that they are more --- already have some like JS APIs that let you touch stuff on the server or things like that. Is this just – it’s not sandbox at all? TIM: Yeah. I mean, this is a native app. It’s not in your browser at all. It bundles its own webkit. JAMISON: Oooh. TIM: It’s more like -- what was that flash thing they had years ago? AJ: ‘Adobe Air’? TIM: Air yeah. It’s like Adobe Air that doesn’t suck.
Panel Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:15 - node-webkit Similar to PhoneGap Chrome native apps Chromium 05:31 - Event loops and the browsers 06:53 - Example apps Light Table app.js 07:42 - node-webkit vs app.js 10:00 - Chrome Chrome Apps: JavaScript Desktop Development 17:44 - Security implications 25:11 - Testing node-webkit applications 27:19 - Getting a web app into a native app 31:33 - Creating Your First AppJS App with Custom Chrome Chromeless Browser Chromeless replacement Picks How mismanagement, incompetence and pride killed THQ's Kaos Studios (Jamison) The Insufficiency of Good Design by Sarah Mei (Jamison) app.js (Tim) node-webkit (Tim) Macaroni Grill’s Butternut Asiago Tortellaci (AJ) JCPenney (AJ) Mac OS Stickies (Chuck) Fieldrunners (Chuck) Node Knockout Transcript AJ: Let’s talk about boring stuff. What did you eat for breakfast? TIM: I had donuts. AJ: That sounds nutritious and delicious. [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 35 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And AJ O’Neal. And I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. This week, we are going to be talking about ‘Node-webkit’. It seems like Tim is the most familiar with it, so why don’t you jump in and tell us a little bit about it? TIM: All right. Basically the idea is to make desktop apps using Node and then having HTML as your display layer for your widgets. And I start a project doing this several years ago from Topcube, but I failed miserably because I'm not that good of a C engineer. And since then, a few projects have taken up the idea. Node-webkit is one done by Intel and the main engineer there is Roger Wang. So on Roger Wang’s GitHub there is node-webkit. And the other popular one is called ‘app.js’ and I think there is a couple others as well. And some other people have taken over my Topcube project and they use it for some maps app. And all these projects had the basic idea of you have a desktop native app that has Node and node-webkit inside of it. CHUCK: So, is it kind of like PhoneGap or some of these other things for mobile? TIM: Yeah. It’s similar to PhoneGap in that, you get more privileges than a browser would have in a more native experience. Instead of just the PhoneGap extensions, you get all of Node -- you get the full Node environment -- which means you can use all that existing libraries and ecosystem. JAMISON: So how does this compare to the Chrome native apps thing? Because I know that they are more --- already have some like JS APIs that let you touch stuff on the server or things like that. Is this just – it’s not sandbox at all? TIM: Yeah. I mean, this is a native app. It’s not in your browser at all. It bundles its own webkit. JAMISON: Oooh. TIM: It’s more like -- what was that flash thing they had years ago? AJ: ‘Adobe Air’? TIM: Air yeah. It’s like Adobe Air that doesn’t suck.
Panel Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:15 - node-webkit Similar to PhoneGap Chrome native apps Chromium 05:31 - Event loops and the browsers 06:53 - Example apps Light Table app.js 07:42 - node-webkit vs app.js 10:00 - Chrome Chrome Apps: JavaScript Desktop Development 17:44 - Security implications 25:11 - Testing node-webkit applications 27:19 - Getting a web app into a native app 31:33 - Creating Your First AppJS App with Custom Chrome Chromeless Browser Chromeless replacement Picks How mismanagement, incompetence and pride killed THQ's Kaos Studios (Jamison) The Insufficiency of Good Design by Sarah Mei (Jamison) app.js (Tim) node-webkit (Tim) Macaroni Grill’s Butternut Asiago Tortellaci (AJ) JCPenney (AJ) Mac OS Stickies (Chuck) Fieldrunners (Chuck) Node Knockout Transcript AJ: Let’s talk about boring stuff. What did you eat for breakfast? TIM: I had donuts. AJ: That sounds nutritious and delicious. [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 35 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON: Hi guys! CHUCK: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello! CHUCK: And AJ O’Neal. And I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. This week, we are going to be talking about ‘Node-webkit’. It seems like Tim is the most familiar with it, so why don’t you jump in and tell us a little bit about it? TIM: All right. Basically the idea is to make desktop apps using Node and then having HTML as your display layer for your widgets. And I start a project doing this several years ago from Topcube, but I failed miserably because I'm not that good of a C engineer. And since then, a few projects have taken up the idea. Node-webkit is one done by Intel and the main engineer there is Roger Wang. So on Roger Wang’s GitHub there is node-webkit. And the other popular one is called ‘app.js’ and I think there is a couple others as well. And some other people have taken over my Topcube project and they use it for some maps app. And all these projects had the basic idea of you have a desktop native app that has Node and node-webkit inside of it. CHUCK: So, is it kind of like PhoneGap or some of these other things for mobile? TIM: Yeah. It’s similar to PhoneGap in that, you get more privileges than a browser would have in a more native experience. Instead of just the PhoneGap extensions, you get all of Node -- you get the full Node environment -- which means you can use all that existing libraries and ecosystem. JAMISON: So how does this compare to the Chrome native apps thing? Because I know that they are more --- already have some like JS APIs that let you touch stuff on the server or things like that. Is this just – it’s not sandbox at all? TIM: Yeah. I mean, this is a native app. It’s not in your browser at all. It bundles its own webkit. JAMISON: Oooh. TIM: It’s more like -- what was that flash thing they had years ago? AJ: ‘Adobe Air’? TIM: Air yeah. It’s like Adobe Air that doesn’t suck.
Panel Ben Combee (twitter github blog) Gray Norton (twitter) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeS...
Panel Ben Combee (twitter github blog) Gray Norton (twitter) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeS...
Panel Ben Combee (twitter github blog) Gray Norton (twitter) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeS...
Panel Misko Hevery (twitter github blog) Igor Minar (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 01:33 - Angular.js (twitter github blog) 02:33 - Angular.js compared to other frameworks 04:03 - How does it work? 05:22 - Cost 06:06 - HTML Compiler 07:02 - Directives 10:31 - Working with browsers in the future 12:07 - Dependency injection 16:50 - Main method 18:48 - Using require.js 20:53 - How would you build a TreeView widget in Angular? 24:07 - Where data is stored 24:42 - Scope 29:47 - Syncing to servers RESTClient 31:34 - Testability & Services in Angular 39:04 - Benefits of Angular Dependency injection Directives Picks The Arrow (Joe) Font Awesome (Tim) Testacular (Igor) Plunker (Igor) The Better Angels of our Nature: Steven Pinker (Misko) XCOM (Jamison) The Foundation Series: Isaac Asimov (Jamison) Influencer: The Power to Change Anything (AJ) Transcript [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] JAMISON: Hi everybody and welcome to episode 32 of the JavaScript Jabber podcast. I'm not your host Charles Max Wood, I'm Jamison Dance. Chuck is at a conference this week. So, he is not here. We have with us Joe Eames. JOE: Hey everybody! JAMISON: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. JAMISON: And we have two special guests. I'm going to mangle your names, so I'm sorry. It’s Misko Hevery. MISKO: Misko Hevery. Yeah, thank you. JAMISON: Misko Hevery and Igor Minar? IGOR: Minar. Yeah. JAMISON: Great. You guys wanna introduce yourself really quick? MISKO: Sure. So, this is Misko Hevery, original creator of Angular.js. IGOR: Hi everybody! I'm Igor. I joined Misko about 2 years ago on this venture of creating better browser and better environment for creating client-side applications. JAMISON: And if you can’t tell, we are going to talk about Angular.js this week. So, I know it is kind of a Google project now. Did it start out that way? MISKO: It started out with something I was working on and eventually I've open sourced it at a product with Google internal application and just gotten such a rave reviews and new features that people actually says, “Hey why don’t you work on this full time and turn in on to a real product?” So, that's how it’s started. JAMISON: Oh, wow. So, there’s actually a team in Google who are working on Angular as their job? MISKO: Yeah. IGOR: Yes. JAMISON: That's awesome. IGOR: It’s just two of us here now, but we have a bunch of other people working full time on Angular.js and also main contributors-- JAMISON: Oh, go ahead sorry. IGOR: There is a team behind Angular.js. JAMISON: Do you think you can give an overview and kind of a comparison to contrast Angular to some of the other MVC frameworks that people like before you? I mean, Backbone I guess is what most people know. So, what makes Angular different from Backbone? How does it work? MISKO: So, I have never used Backbone besides it’s framework. But, my understanding is that Backbone is basically you have declare model and then launch on changes on its mode. And the way it does so is that there is a model class object. And whenever you modify the models that use special getters and setters methods, the Backbone know about the changes. So, this is pretty different from Angular because we don’t require you to inherit from anything. We have special getters and setters. Basically, any JavaScript object can be a model. So, that’s one big difference. JAMISON: But you can still observe the changes on objects like that? MISKO: Right.
Panel Misko Hevery (twitter github blog) Igor Minar (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 01:33 - Angular.js (twitter github blog) 02:33 - Angular.js compared to other frameworks 04:03 - How does it work? 05:22 - Cost 06:06 - HTML Compiler 07:02 - Directives 10:31 - Working with browsers in the future 12:07 - Dependency injection 16:50 - Main method 18:48 - Using require.js 20:53 - How would you build a TreeView widget in Angular? 24:07 - Where data is stored 24:42 - Scope 29:47 - Syncing to servers RESTClient 31:34 - Testability & Services in Angular 39:04 - Benefits of Angular Dependency injection Directives Picks The Arrow (Joe) Font Awesome (Tim) Testacular (Igor) Plunker (Igor) The Better Angels of our Nature: Steven Pinker (Misko) XCOM (Jamison) The Foundation Series: Isaac Asimov (Jamison) Influencer: The Power to Change Anything (AJ) Transcript [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] JAMISON: Hi everybody and welcome to episode 32 of the JavaScript Jabber podcast. I'm not your host Charles Max Wood, I'm Jamison Dance. Chuck is at a conference this week. So, he is not here. We have with us Joe Eames. JOE: Hey everybody! JAMISON: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. JAMISON: And we have two special guests. I'm going to mangle your names, so I'm sorry. It’s Misko Hevery. MISKO: Misko Hevery. Yeah, thank you. JAMISON: Misko Hevery and Igor Minar? IGOR: Minar. Yeah. JAMISON: Great. You guys wanna introduce yourself really quick? MISKO: Sure. So, this is Misko Hevery, original creator of Angular.js. IGOR: Hi everybody! I'm Igor. I joined Misko about 2 years ago on this venture of creating better browser and better environment for creating client-side applications. JAMISON: And if you can’t tell, we are going to talk about Angular.js this week. So, I know it is kind of a Google project now. Did it start out that way? MISKO: It started out with something I was working on and eventually I've open sourced it at a product with Google internal application and just gotten such a rave reviews and new features that people actually says, “Hey why don’t you work on this full time and turn in on to a real product?” So, that's how it’s started. JAMISON: Oh, wow. So, there’s actually a team in Google who are working on Angular as their job? MISKO: Yeah. IGOR: Yes. JAMISON: That's awesome. IGOR: It’s just two of us here now, but we have a bunch of other people working full time on Angular.js and also main contributors-- JAMISON: Oh, go ahead sorry. IGOR: There is a team behind Angular.js. JAMISON: Do you think you can give an overview and kind of a comparison to contrast Angular to some of the other MVC frameworks that people like before you? I mean, Backbone I guess is what most people know. So, what makes Angular different from Backbone? How does it work? MISKO: So, I have never used Backbone besides it’s framework. But, my understanding is that Backbone is basically you have declare model and then launch on changes on its mode. And the way it does so is that there is a model class object. And whenever you modify the models that use special getters and setters methods, the Backbone know about the changes. So, this is pretty different from Angular because we don’t require you to inherit from anything. We have special getters and setters. Basically, any JavaScript object can be a model. So, that’s one big difference. JAMISON: But you can still observe the changes on objects like that? MISKO: Right.
Panel Misko Hevery (twitter github blog) Igor Minar (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 01:33 - Angular.js (twitter github blog) 02:33 - Angular.js compared to other frameworks 04:03 - How does it work? 05:22 - Cost 06:06 - HTML Compiler 07:02 - Directives 10:31 - Working with browsers in the future 12:07 - Dependency injection 16:50 - Main method 18:48 - Using require.js 20:53 - How would you build a TreeView widget in Angular? 24:07 - Where data is stored 24:42 - Scope 29:47 - Syncing to servers RESTClient 31:34 - Testability & Services in Angular 39:04 - Benefits of Angular Dependency injection Directives Picks The Arrow (Joe) Font Awesome (Tim) Testacular (Igor) Plunker (Igor) The Better Angels of our Nature: Steven Pinker (Misko) XCOM (Jamison) The Foundation Series: Isaac Asimov (Jamison) Influencer: The Power to Change Anything (AJ) Transcript [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net] JAMISON: Hi everybody and welcome to episode 32 of the JavaScript Jabber podcast. I'm not your host Charles Max Wood, I'm Jamison Dance. Chuck is at a conference this week. So, he is not here. We have with us Joe Eames. JOE: Hey everybody! JAMISON: Tim Caswell. TIM: Hello. JAMISON: And we have two special guests. I'm going to mangle your names, so I'm sorry. It’s Misko Hevery. MISKO: Misko Hevery. Yeah, thank you. JAMISON: Misko Hevery and Igor Minar? IGOR: Minar. Yeah. JAMISON: Great. You guys wanna introduce yourself really quick? MISKO: Sure. So, this is Misko Hevery, original creator of Angular.js. IGOR: Hi everybody! I'm Igor. I joined Misko about 2 years ago on this venture of creating better browser and better environment for creating client-side applications. JAMISON: And if you can’t tell, we are going to talk about Angular.js this week. So, I know it is kind of a Google project now. Did it start out that way? MISKO: It started out with something I was working on and eventually I've open sourced it at a product with Google internal application and just gotten such a rave reviews and new features that people actually says, “Hey why don’t you work on this full time and turn in on to a real product?” So, that's how it’s started. JAMISON: Oh, wow. So, there’s actually a team in Google who are working on Angular as their job? MISKO: Yeah. IGOR: Yes. JAMISON: That's awesome. IGOR: It’s just two of us here now, but we have a bunch of other people working full time on Angular.js and also main contributors-- JAMISON: Oh, go ahead sorry. IGOR: There is a team behind Angular.js. JAMISON: Do you think you can give an overview and kind of a comparison to contrast Angular to some of the other MVC frameworks that people like before you? I mean, Backbone I guess is what most people know. So, what makes Angular different from Backbone? How does it work? MISKO: So, I have never used Backbone besides it’s framework. But, my understanding is that Backbone is basically you have declare model and then launch on changes on its mode. And the way it does so is that there is a model class object. And whenever you modify the models that use special getters and setters methods, the Backbone know about the changes. So, this is pretty different from Angular because we don’t require you to inherit from anything. We have special getters and setters. Basically, any JavaScript object can be a model. So, that’s one big difference. JAMISON: But you can still observe the changes on objects like that? MISKO: Right.
Wynn caught up with Tim Caswell to talk about Luvit, his new project that provides Lua bindings for libuv.
Wynn caught up with Tim Caswell to talk about Luvit, his new project that provides Lua bindings for libuv.
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