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Welcome to A Book with Legs podcast, hosted by Smead Capital Management. In each episode, the folks at Smead Capital Management explore investing through an entirely unique lens, bringing in authors to discuss books that have directly or indirectly influenced the Smead team's investment decisions. The podcast is for the curious-minded looking for worldly wisdom. Investing is the last great liberal art, and the team at Smead wants to learn as much as they can. Any level of investor, business person, or thinker, whether personally or professionally, will be intrigued and engaged by these discussions.

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    Padraic Scanlan - Rot: An Imperial History of the Irish Famine

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2025 102:59


    In this episode, Cole Smead and Conor O'Callaghan sit down with Author and Educator Padraic Scanlan to discuss his book, “Rot: An Imperial History of the Irish Famine.” The three explore the history of the Great Famine, explaining how Ireland's position in the British Empire and reliance on the potato made it uniquely susceptible to starvation, and more.

    Russell Shorto - Taking Manhattan: The Extraordinary Events that Created New York and Shaped America

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2025 81:42


    In this episode, Cole Smead speaks with author and historian Russell Shorto about his latest book, ”Taking Manhattan: The Extraordinary Events that Created New York and Shaped America,” discussing the birth of New York City, originally a Dutch-controlled settlement called New Amsterdam on Manhattan Island, until English takeover. Their conversation explores this pivotal transfer of power, and the key figures involved, explaining how it shaped the future of New York and the American identity.

    Kyle Paoletta - American Oasis

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 82:26


    In this episode, Cole and Bill Smead speak with journalist and author Kyle Paoletta about his book, “American Oasis: Finding the Future in the Cities of the Southwest.” Their conversation explores the unique history of the American Southwest and its most iconic cities. The discussion spans from Spanish colonialism to the impact of railroads and suburbanization. They also examine the region's key drivers of economic growth today, including innovative water conservation solutions being used to support growing populations.

    Amar Bhide - Uncertainty and Enterprise: Venturing Beyond the Known

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2025 92:20


    In this episode, author, professor, and Council on Foreign Relations member Amar Bhide, joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, “Uncertainty and Enterprise: Venturing Beyond the Known.” Their conversation explores the relationship between profit and uncertainty when investing, the old and new schools of thought emerging from the Chicago School of Economics, artificial intelligence, and more.

    Mary Flannery - Geoffrey Chaucer: Unveiling the Merry Bard

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 74:38


    In this episode, writer and medievalist Mary Flannery joins Cole Smead to discuss her book, “Geoffrey Chaucer: Unveiling the Merry Bard.” Their discussion explores the life and work of English writer and poet Geoffrey Chaucer, a father figure in the English literary tradition, covering his most influential and controversial works, numerous titles and royal affiliations, impact on the modern English language, and more.

    The Smead Book List - Spring 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 61:23


    In this special quarterly ‘book list' episode of A Book with Legs, Cole and Bill Smead revisit the most memorable takeaways from the books recently featured on the podcast, share what's on their current reading list, and preview what's next. They also offer fresh insights into inflation, tariffs, investment opportunities in oil, and more!

    Eric Metaxas - Bonheoffer

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2025 56:07


    In this episode, author, speaker, and radio host Eric Metaxas joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy.” Their discussion explores the remarkable life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a dedicated pastor, unwilling to waver in his convictions, even when facing the Nazi regime. Bonhoeffer's story spans continents and finds him playing a role in a plot to kill Hitler, protecting the German Church from Nazi takeover, and more.

    Lucy Santos - Chain Reactions

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 80:53


    In this episode, Lucy Santos, freelance historian, writer, and consultant, joins Cole Smead to discuss her book, “Chain Reactions: The Hopeful History of Uranium.” Their discussion covers topics such as the history of the element, the impact on culture, its role as an energy source, and more.

    Max Frumes - The Caesars Palace Coup

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2025 85:29


    Max Frumes, author and Global Head of Distressed and Restructuring at 9Fin, joins Cole Smead and Conor O'Callaghan to discuss his book, “The Caesars Palace Coup: How A Billionaire Brawl Over the Famous Casino Exposed the Power and Greed of Wall Street.” In this episode, they discuss the 2015 bankruptcy brawl for Caesars Entertainment in Las Vegas, the key figures involved, and more.

    Doug Terreson - Can't Deny It

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2025 65:00


    In this special taping, live from the 2025 Smead Investor Oasis, legendary Wall Street analyst Doug Terreson joins Portfolio Managers Cole Smead and Bill Smead to explore his book "Can't Deny It". They will be discussing Terreson's successful market predictions in the past, what the demand and figure growth of the industry look like, and will also be taking questions live from the audience.

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    Vaudine England - Fortune's Bazaar

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 77:12


    In this episode, journalist and historian Vaudine England joins Cole Smead to discuss her book, “Fortune's Bazaar: The Making of Hong Kong,” discussing pivotal moments throughout Hong Kong's complex history, the multicultural origins of its population, business culture, recent political changes, and more.

    Adrian Tinniswood - The Power and The Glory

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2025 68:48


    In this episode, writer and historian Adrian Tinniswood joins Smead Capital Management CEO Cole Smead to discuss his book, “The Power and the Glory: Life in the English Country House Before the Great War.” Tinniswood explores the opulent world of British country houses, detailing the lifestyles of aristocratic families, the integration of new wealth into traditional societies, and more. This conversation offers insights into the key historical figures, landmark estates, and societal shifts leading up to World War I.

    The Smead Book List - Winter 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2024 55:27


    In this episode, Smead Capital Management CEO Cole Smead and CIO Bill Smead reflect on the books they have recently read, what they are currently reading, and what they look forward to reading next. Additionally, they provide their expert perspectives on financial euphoria, energy and more!

    John Oller - White Shoe

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2024 70:47


    In this episode, author and former lawyer John Oller joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, “White Shoe: How a New Breed of Wall Street Lawyers Changed Big Business and the American Century.” Oller explores the evolution of elite law firms in America and their influence on business and politics, delving into key historical figures, pivotal legal cases, and the rise of the modern corporate lawyer.

    Brad Klontz - Start Thinking Rich

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 70:46


    In this episode, financial psychologist Brad Klontz joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, Start Thinking Rich: 21 Harsh Truths to Take You from Broke to Financial Freedom, which explores the psychological factors surrounding wealth-building. Klontz provides insights into how individuals and investors can shape their mindsets around money to achieve long-term financial goals.

    Brett Gardner - Buffett's Early Investments

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 83:53


    In this episode, investment analyst Brett Gardner joins Cole and Bill Smead to discuss his newly released book, "Buffett's Early Investments," which explores Warren Buffett's key initial ventures that shaped his approach to wealth-building. Gardner provides readers with a closer look at how the legendary investor's financial instincts and disciplined strategies helped lay the groundwork for his later success.

    Wilbur Ross - Risks and Returns

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 72:55


    In this episode, seasoned investor-turned-commerce secretary Wilbur Ross joins Cole and Bill Smead to discuss his new book, "Risks and Returns," where he delves into the complex world of distressed asset investing. Ross shares his experiences and strategies for identifying undervalued opportunities, managing risk and maximizing returns, blending financial wisdom with personal anecdotes from a career spent transforming troubled companies intro profitable ventures.

    Michael Craig - The Professor, The Banker, and the Suicide King

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2024 75:07


    In this episode, author Michael Craig joins Cole Smead and Bill Smead to discuss his book, "The Professor, The Banker, and the Suicide King," which dives into the world of high-stakes poker. The story follows the legendary Texas Hold'em showdown between billionaire banker Andy Beal and a team of top professional players, and explores the psychological tactics and strategic decisions behind each move.

    Megan Gorman - All The Presidents' Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2024 77:59


    In this episode, wealth manager Megan Gorman joins Cole Smead to discuss her newly released work title “All the Presidents' Money”. The book offers a fascinating dive into the personal finances of U.S. presidents, revealing how their wealth (or lack thereof) shaped their leadership and policies. Gorman offers a compelling mix of history and financial insight to reveal the impact of money on American politics.

    The Smead Book List - Fall 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 46:02


    In this episode, Smead Capital Management CEO Cole Smead and CIO Bill Smead talk about the firm's quarterly book list. They also discuss the state of markets and the economy, investment lessons learned, and much more. Listen in to hear what books they have recently read, what they are currently reading, and the books they have on deck.

    Dan Slater - The Incorruptibles

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2024 77:42


    In this episode, author Dan Slater joins Cole Smead to discuss his recently published book, "The Incorruptibles", which explores how Jewish immigrant communities played a significant role in shaping early organized crime and law enforcement efforts in the 20th century. Slater delves into the tension between labor unions, emerging crime syndicates, and the federal agents determined to combat corruption, ultimately shaping modern policing strategies.

    Anne Murphy - Virtuous Bankers

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2024 79:29


    In this episode, Professor Anne Murphy joins Cole Smead to discuss her latest work, "Virtuous Bankers,” which explores the foundations of banking in 18th century England. Murphy tells the story of how early bankers leveraged moral integrity and trust, which were essential to the development and stability of the financial system at the time. The book argues that the success of the Bank of England and the banking industry at large relied heavily on a strong reputation for virtue.

    Richard Blakemore - Enemies of All

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 80:35


    In this episode, author Richard Blakemore joins Cole Smead to discuss his newly published book, "Enemies of All", which explores the world of 18th-century piracy through a blend of historical elements and masterful storytelling. He navigates the economics of privateering by exploring themes including power and wealth. The novel highlights strategic alliances and negotiations by pirate crews who sought to maximize profits while evading imperial powers.

    Steve Green - This Beautiful Book

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2024 71:25


    In this episode, businessman Steve Green joins Bill and Cole Smead to discuss his work, "This Beautiful Book," in which he delves into the transformative impact of the Bible on society and culture. The book explores how biblical wisdom has shaped major business decisions and leadership styles throughout history, emphasizing its influence on business ethics, leadership, and decision-making through compelling anecdotes, such as the establishment of Hobby Lobby and its adherence to biblical principles.

    Eric Weiner - Ben & Me

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2024 79:19


    In this episode, author Eric Weiner joins Cole Smead to discuss his newly released work, “Ben & Me,” which explores the life of Benjamin Franklin through research and reflection. Weiner provides a blend of historical anecdotes and practical advice, highlighting Franklin's experiences and philosophies to offer readers timeless lessons for living meaningful and impactful lives.

    Nicky Hayes - A Little History of Psychology

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 74:16


    In this episode, psychologist Nicky Hayes discusses her newly released title, "A Little History of Psychology," which offers an engaging overview of key figures and concepts when it comes to the study of the mind. Hayes explores how psychological research has been applied both positively and negatively throughout history while focusing on the evolution of psychological thought and practice.

    The Smead Book List - Summer 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 72:23


    In this episode, the Arizona Chamber of Commerce & Industry CEO Danny Seiden joins Cole Smead and Seamus Sullivan to talk about the firm's quarterly book list while providing thought-provoking context with insightful historical anecdotes. They also discuss the state of markets and the economy, the business environment in the state of Arizona, and much more. Listen in to hear what books they have recently read, what they are currently reading, and the books they have on deck. Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email your suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

    Martin Goodman - Herod the Great: Jewish King in a Roman World

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 72:35


    In this episode, distinguished historian Martin Goodman joins Bill and Cole Smead to discuss his latest work, "Herod the Great," in which he documents the Jewish king's ability to generate wealth through various means amid the Roman revolution. Goodman highlights Herod's use of taxation, trade deals and construction projects to boost Judea's economy and secure his political power while strengthening his ties with Rome.

    David Bellos - Who Owns This Sentence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 82:06


    In this episode, writer David Bellos discusses his latest work, "Who Owns This Sentence", which provides a detailed history of copyright law by questioning who owns the meaning of a sentence when it crosses linguistic boundaries. Bellos shares anecdotes about the importance of precise language, while highlighting how accurate translation impacts business dealings globally.

    Bryan Burrough - Barbarians at the Gate

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2024 84:26


    In this episode, author and journalist Bryan Burrough joins Bill and Cole Smead to discuss his classic work, "Barbarians at the Gate." The book is a detailed narrative of the high stakes battle for RJR Nabisco. Burrough explores the complex negotiations behind one of the largest leveraged buyouts in corporate history, highlighting the strategies by the major players involved.

    Rob Copeland - The Fund

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2024 58:23


    In this episode, reporter Rob Copeland joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, "The Fund," which provides a detailed account of the rise of Ray Dalio and the founding of Bridgewater Associates, one of the largest hedge funds in the world. Copeland provides insights into Dalio's impact on the finance industry through his unique approach to economics and risk management.

    Benji Backer - The Conservative Environmentalist

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2024 86:35


    In this episode, activist Benji Backer joins Cole Smead to discuss his newly released book, "The Conservative Environmentalist," which makes the case for the economic benefits of the strategic merging of conservative values and environmental sustainability. Backer argues that environmentalism can align with American economic interests while offering a pragmatic approach to climate change.

    Jennifer Burns - Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2024 81:11


    In this episode, historian Jennifer Burns joins Cole Smead to discuss her book "Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative," which provides an in-depth analysis of Friedman's economic theories and their lasting impact on conservative ideology. The book chronicles key moments in the life of one of the most influential economists of our time, and how his pragmatic way of thinking significantly shaped contemporary economic discourse.

    The Smead Book List - Spring 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2024 32:03


    Interested in the Smead Capital Management book list? Listen in to hear Cole and Bill Smead list the books they have recently read, what they're currently reading, and the books they have on deck. Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email your suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

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    Ekaterina Pravilov - The Ruble

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2024 77:35


    In this episode, author and Professor Ekaterina Pravilova joins Cole Smead to discuss her book, “The Ruble: A Political History.” Ekaterina's book explores the evolution of the Russian currency over a 200-year time period through the interplay between politics, culture, and ultimately, power. Their conversation covers financial turmoil, currency reforms, and an extensive discussion of Ruble's story.

    Harold James - Seven Crashes

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 66:16


    In this episode, author and historian Harold James joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, “Seven Crashes: The Economic Crises That Shaped Globalization.” Their discussion delves into major economic downturns throughout history, offering insights into their causes, impacts, and reforms to prevent future crises.

    Chris Roush - The Future of Business Journalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2024 65:14


    In this episode, author Chris Roush joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, "The Future of Business Journalism," which explores the evolving media landscape and its impact on business reporting. Roush navigates the challenges and opportunities facing business journalists in an era of technological disruption and shifting audience demands.

    George Gilder - Life After Capitalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2024 57:37


    Live from the 2024 Smead Investor Oasis, venture capitalist George Gilder joins Bill and Cole Smead to discuss his latest work, "Life after Capitalism," in which he redefines capitalism as a knowledge-based system. Gilder presents a vision of the future in which technological advances disrupt traditional capitalist structures, emphasizing innovation and knowledge over wealth accumulation.

    Andrew Pettegree - Book At War

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2024 72:23


    In this episode, Professor Andrew Pettegree joins Cole to discuss his newly released title, "The Book at War." The book is a captivating analysis of the power of print in society and conflicts throughout history. At the heart of this literary work is the paradox of words during wartime. The notion that books are weapons in the war of ideas is tested in this account on how the written word leaves a lasting impact on the fabric of societies.

    General David Petraeus - Conflict

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2024 61:45


    In this episode, retired U.S. Army general David Petraeus joins Bill and Cole to discuss the recently released book that he co -authored titled, "Conflict." The book explores the evolution of warfare beginning in 1945 up to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the importance of strategic leadership. Ultimately, that idea that what takes place in one part of the world does actually resonate or reverberate in others is critical.

    The Smead Book List - Winter 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2024 29:27


    Interested in the Smead Capital Management book list? Listen in to hear Cole and Bill Smead list the books they have recently read, what they're currently reading, and the books they have on deck.Also highlighted in this episode is a tribute to the late great Charlie Munger, as we release this episode on what would have been his 100th birthday. Listen to Bill and Cole's top quotes and ideas from Munger and hear about how his history has influenced them as value-investing gurus.Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email your suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

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    Vikash Yadav - Liberalism's Last Man

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2023 81:10


    "What about our system of liberal meritocratic capitalism is good and useful? What about it is worth preserving, expanding and fixing, so that we can be prepared for the challenges that are coming?" Professor Vikash Yadav joins Cole to discuss his book, "Liberalism's Last Man". The book explores the elements of one of the great economic thinkers and philosophers of the 20th century — Friedrich Hayek — that are still relevant and viable today. The conversation focuses on the evolution of liberalism and its influence on human flourishing.

    Senator Phil Gramm - The Myth of American Inequality

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2023 73:44


    “If you read it, you will realize that many of the arguments being made against American capitalism are invalid. You will realize that this country of ours is even greater than you think.” Senator Phil Gramm joins Cole to discuss his book, The Myth of American Inequality. Gramm's book explores the data which prove income inequality in the United States is far lower than what most Americans are led to believe. The conversation covers the statistics that support Gramm's position and how the American Dream remains strong.

    Daniel Schulman - The Money Kings

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2023 86:13


    “Once you know where to look, you start to see it all around you in present day life. Whether it's the Federal Reserve Bank, whether it's the company Goldman Sachs… It's remarkable how the degree to which we are living in this world they helped build.”In this episode, Cole is joined by author Daniel Schulman to discuss his book, The Money Kings. Daniel's book is the story of the German Jewish immigrants who revolutionized Wall Street and shaped today's economic system. The conversation covers names like Goldman and Sachs, Lehman and Seligman, Kuhn and Loeb, and Warburg and Schiff.

    Lori Garver - Escaping Gravity

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2023 74:29


    “You have to have a drive and a willingness to get bloody by standing up for something greater than yourself.”Former NASA Deputy Administrator Lori Garver joins Cole to discuss her book, Escaping Gravity: My Quest to Transform NASA and Launch a New Space Age. Lori's book is a firsthand account of her career at NASA, highlighted by her role in the private sector's involvement in the nation's space program. The conversation covers the hurdles she faced, how incentive structures can lead to good and bad, and how free market capitalism can deliver human potential.

    Randall Sullivan - Graveyard of the Pacific

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2023 72:21


    Randall Sullivan joins Cole and Bill for a conversation about his book, Graveyard of the Pacific: Shipwreck and Survival on America's Deadliest Waterway. The book describes the haunting history of the Columbia River Bar, one of the deadliest bar crossings on the globe, where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean. The discussion covers the dangers associated with the area, the shipwrecks and lives lost, and Randall's first-hand journey crossing the bar.

    David Zaslav - Exclusive Interview

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2023 25:24


    BONUS EPISODE: David Zaslav, CEO and President of Warner Bros. Discovery joins Cole and Bill to continue the conversation about The Warner Brothers by Chris Yogerst. Zaslav gives insight into how the brothers positioned the company for success, the power of film in today's society, and how the media giant is building towards the future. Zaslav also shares a story involving Robert Evans, Frank Sinatra, and Mia Farrow!

    Chris Yogerst - The Warner Brothers

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2023 85:39


    Chris Yogerst joins Cole and Bill for a conversation about his book, The Warner Brothers. Yogerst's book chronicles the lives of four brothers – Harry, Albert, Sam, and Jack and how they built one of Hollywood's most distinguishable studios, which now stands as one of the largest media conglomerates in the world. The discussion covers how the family's values shaped the movies they created, the successful investments they made in technology, and the legacy the brothers left behind.Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email suggestions to the stock picking gurus at Smead Capital Management at podcast@smeadcap.com.

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    The Smead Book List - Fall 2023

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2023 29:25 Transcription Available


    Interested in the Smead Capital Management book list? Listen in to hear Cole and Bill Smead list the books they have recently read, what they're currently reading, and the books they have on deck. Also in this episode, value investing gurus, Bill and Cole, discuss the role higher interest rates are playing in today's equity markets, how rising rates affect stocks, the increased risks in investments, and the impact on the real economy.Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

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    Diana B. Henriques - Taming the Street

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2023 92:34 Transcription Available


    “FDR was brilliant in recognizing there is a connection between a fair economy with well-regulated markets and a strong democracy with broad public support. He saw those as inextricable, and that's why his financial reforms were the heart and soul of the New Deal.”Award winning author Diana B. Henriques joins Cole to discuss her book, Taming the Street: The Old Guard, the New Deal, and FDR's Fight to Regulate American Capitalism. Diana's book recounts the steps President Franklin D. Roosevelt took to regulate Wall Street during the 1929 stock market crash and through the Great Depression. The conversation covers the cast of characters involved in regulating #markets, some of the initial backlash, and how the New Deal still plays a key role on today's Wall Street.

    Peter Stark - Gallop Toward the Sun

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2023 79:03


    New York Times Best Selling author Peter Stark makes his second appearance on the podcast, this time to discuss his book Gallop Toward the Sun. Peter's book highlights the widely unfamiliar conflict between Tecumseh and William Henry Harrison. The conversation covers how the two men became exceptional leaders, why a struggle between local politics and a young federal government shaped westward expansion, and Tecumseh's eagerness to defend indigenous land and his people's way of life.

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