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There are industry-wide shifts happening in the markets you serve - especially with AI. In this episode of Cash In On Camera, attorney, consultant, and author Jason Szeftel joins me to look into the future and how our businesses are being impacted by technological advancements such as artificial intelligence. Watch the full LIVE video interview on Sheryl's YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/44SW2f5Linc --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sherylplouffe/message

On today's episode, I'm joined once again by Jason Szeftel to discuss all of the recent happenings in China, namely, the recent nationwide protests in response to the CCP's authoritarian response to COVID. We'll also talk about whether or not this is the end of the Chinese Communist Party and what it means for them going forward. The world has been shocked by the images coming out of China over the past few weeks, with millions of people taking to the streets across the country. These protests have been met with varying levels of force by authorities. Is this a sign that Chinese citizens are finally rising up against an oppressive government and demanding more rights? Jason has done extensive research on both China and its political history, and today he'll help us sort through what these demonstrations mean for China's future—and for our own! OH!! By the way... are you a candidate or thinking of tossing your hat in the ring this coming 2023 election cycle?   Whether it's local, state, or national office, my new Candidate School 101 course will give you weekly strategy sessions, roundtable discussions with other candidates, plus extra resources to help you CRUSH your election!   Try your EXCLUSIVE risk-free trial and get a complimentary "Campaign Messaging Scorecard" of your current campaign messaging with actionable recommendations on how to improve it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The world seems to be smaller than ever.  It's easy to communicate across continents and digital technology has accelerated most things in life.  However, every place in the world has a history and it's important to understand how the past still affects the future.  You must understand how a place works in order to see its impact on the world and have your own impact in that region.   Jason Szeftel is a political and economic writer that has focus on China.  His experiences there allowed him to learn much about the culture and history of the nation.  The conversation in this episode is enlightening as to how its systems work.  You'll want to pay close attention to the need for understanding these things in order to maximize impact.  Every place in the world has needs and whoever is called to serve them must be well-educated.   You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://www.bobdepasquale.com/podcast/jasonszeftel

If you want to be a guest go to PodMatch. Join Wisdom to hear my all political talk starting in November and all conversations that truly matter.For this audio episode, I interviewed a China Expert who provide some enlightening updates regarding China, Russia and America. Also, I have learned some billionaires in big tech industry are losing BILLIONS OF DOLLARS while some tech will shut down permanently. Finally, I have found out about injustices of rape victim and American males.A. Primary Politics-Timestamp: 10:24I interview Jason Szeftel about China, Russia and America's current status.Check out his website by clicking on the link below for his social media and updates.https://jasonszeftel.net/B. Mid Tech-Timestamp: 1:16:221. Mark Zuckerburg loses A TON OF MONEY!2. Jeff Bezons also loses some money.3. Dish's 5G is not working well4. Google's stadia will DIE NEXT YEAR!3. Weird Topic Finale (WTF)-Timestamp: 1:28:461. A RAPE VICTIM GETS ARRESTED!2. 7 Signs of Emotion Projection3. American males are facing a MAJOR Crisis Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jason is a China specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese history, philosophy, religion, and culture. He works to help people understand China better, and how it impacts our changing world.Check out Jason's site and podcast!https://www.chinaunraveled.com/Be in touch!Email: uppcbiblejazz@gmail.comInstagram: @biblejazzSubscribe to Bible Jazz on Apple!https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uppc-podcast/id1450663729?mt=2Follow on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/2YLbRFDsJbqGEAkMuJ1E5MListen on Stitcher:https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/university-place-presbyterian-church/bible-jazz?refid=stprGoogle Play:https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Izwv3a4pnmvqy54czy3tew5x5fyAnd at www.UPPC.orgMusic:Modern Jazz Samba by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4063-modern-jazz-sambaLicense: https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseAcid Trumpet by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3340-acid-trumpetLicense: https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseAvant Jazz by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3395-avant-jazzLicense: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Jason is a China specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese history, philosophy, religion, and culture. He works to help people understand China better, and how it impacts our changing world. Check out Jason's site and podcast! https://www.chinaunraveled.com/ Be in touch! Email: uppcbiblejazz@gmail.com Instagram: @biblejazz Subscribe to Bible Jazz on Apple! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uppc-podcast/id1450663729?mt=2 Follow on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2YLbRFDsJbqGEAkMuJ1E5M Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/university-place-presbyterian-church/bible-jazz?refid=stpr Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Izwv3a4pnmvqy54czy3tew5x5fy And at www.UPPC.org Music: Modern Jazz Samba by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4063-modern-jazz-samba License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Acid Trumpet by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3340-acid-trumpet License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Avant Jazz by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3395-avant-jazz License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

In today's episode, Ben and Nasif are joined by Jason Szeftel, a China expert, to talk all things geopolitics: from the Chinese economy, Chinese communism and politics to American competition, markets and military and from British regional divides, HS2, the shrinking global importance of London to agriculture. Jason's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jasonszeftel?lang=en-GB Jason's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/dagrunger Jason's website: https://www.chinaunraveled.com

China specialist Jason Szeftel returns to talk about China's significance in the war in Ukraine, the fate of the communist party in China (and China as a whole), and why other nations including the United States actually share the same concerns as China in regards to aging population and low birth rates. Featuring promos a great podcast you should listen and subscribe to!:Doom Generation - https://linktr.ee/doomgenerationpodWant a new way to listen to web articles and podcasts like Voluntary Input? Go to www.newsly.me, use promo code V0LUNTARY1NPUT, and receive a 1-month free premium subscription!Questions, comments, or show ideas? Please be sure to visit https://voluntaryinput.com and select Contact. We'd love to hear from you!

Jason Szeftel talks about his learning experiences across multiple continents and settings. We discuss mindset, knowledge and how understanding geography is so important to how any village, town or city has developed through history. We talk about the influence of mentors and how the people around you can be your biggest supporters. With such a global view of the world and learning, don't be afraid to see what is close by. Jason is an author who hosts the China Unraveled Podcast. On his podcast he covers what is really happening in China and what it means for the world. He makes use of his background in law and development to help people make sense of what changes in the world mean for their business. Website www.jasonszeftel.net Social Media Information Twitter: @jasonszeftel Instagram: @jasonszeftel Tikok: @jsonchef Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/dagrunger Resource Mentioned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel (Guns, Germs and Steel - Jared Diamond) Show Sponsor The National Association for Primary Education speaks for young children and all who live and work with them. Get a FREE e-copy of their professional journal at https://nape.org.uk/journal (nape.org.uk/journal)

BiographyI am an author who hosts the China Unraveled Podcast. On the podcast, I cover what is really happening in China and what it means for the world. I make use of my background in law and development to help people make sense of what changes in the world mean for their businesses. About JasonI am a China specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese economy. I help people understand China, our changing world, and what it means for individuals, families, and businesses. I can discuss global political tensions, the global economy, and China's impact on different economic sectors and ways of life. I help people understand China, how it is different, and where it is headed. I seek to give people context to better navigate our fast-changing world.https://www.chinaunraveled.comhttps://www.youtube.com/user/dagrungerhttps://twitter.com/jasonszeftelhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-sze... 

Jason Szeftel guides us through the backstory of China this week. We all hear about how China is vying for economic power. They want to overtake the United States as the leader of the global community, and most experts agree they very well could. But this week we talk about why they may not be a possibility after all. There is much more to China than just cheap labor and global economics.

Jason joins us again (check out shows #46 & #52 first) to build onto our conversations about China, geopolitics, and how it all connects to our daily lives. We also discuss the Ukraine/Russia war, and as always other topics from different angles.Instagram- Jason Szeftel (@jasonszeftel) China Unraveled PodcastApple-China Unraveled on Apple PodcastsSpotify-China Unraveled | Podcast on SpotifySupport the show (https://cash.app/$ChronicCuriosity)

Many are asking the question is America in decline, but the other side of that question asks is China a rising red dragon in the east.  Join me for this important conversation. My guest Jason Szeftel is a China specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese economy. Jason helps people understand China, our changing world, and what it means for individuals, families, and businesses. We discuss global political tensions, the global economy, and China's impact on different economic sectors and ways of life.The Kingdom Investor | PodcastTake your generosity to the next level, impact more lives and build a godly legacy! Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Sales Bluebird for leaders and go-to-market teams at cyber security startupsTips, tricks, ideas and inspiration from legendary cyber security CEOs and CROsListen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the show

Jason Szeftel is an author and the podcast host of China Unraveled. He is a specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese economy and helps people understand China, our changing world, and what it means for individuals, families, and businesses.   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654 https://www.jasonszeftel.com/

Today's Episode “China Unraveled” features our special guest, Jason Szeftel. The host and the guest, break through the propaganda. What does China's past, present, and future really look like? How does the truth impact the United States and the world? Tune in for a window into some of China's biggest secrets. Take a listen and enjoy. Sponsor(s) Promotional Links: The Tactical Brotherhood Referral Link: https://www.thetacticalbrotherhood.com/?rfsn=5774569.66590c&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=5774569.66590c Promo Code: Patriot15 at Checkout The singular place to find guns, gear and ammo. If you've got a Made In America product, shoot us a note at support@tacticalbrotherhood.com Ridgewood Recording Studios' desire to capture what God has put in your heart as an artist so that He gets the glory for the dedication, talent and commitment you've put into your music. Reach out to us at https://timothydavis.org/ridgewood-studios or email us at https://timothydavis.org/contact Publicist Steven Joiner's primary goal is to match each client with the best podcast(s) for their needs. He can be contacted at 1-816-605-4561 or via email at Stevesjnetwork@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/worldofwalley/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/worldofwalley/support

Jason Szeftel is an author who hosts the China Unraveled Podcast. On the podcast, he covers what is really happening in China and what it means for the world. He makes use of his background in law and development to help people make sense of what changes in the world mean for their business. YouTube: https://youtu.be/tgwtVolMGdo --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/richard-lamonica/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/richard-lamonica/support

Talking with China expert, author, and lawyer Jason Szeftel about China, currency manipulation, the state of China US relations and more. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/chris-russell0/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/chris-russell0/support

In light of recent world events with Russia declaring war on Ukraine, I elected to push the episode I had scheduled in favor of this episode where I speak with China expert Jason Szeftel about Russia's biggest neighbor and currently their closest ally. I came into this conversation knowing almost nothing, but I feel like I've left it so much richer just because of how much we talk about in this rather long episode. Geopolitical stuff starts around 15min in if you just can't wait to hear it. Remember to like, share, subscribe, and review! Send all questions, suggestions, or other stuff to DumbEnoughPodcast@Gmail.Com or head over to DumbEnoughPodcast.com Leaderboard: 1. United States (Oregon and California at the top) 2. Canada (Mostly Quebec) 3. United Kingdom (Literally two listeners less than Canada. So close!) 4. Estonia (First time making the list!) 5. Brazil (Overtaking Germany for the first time!)  

on this episode i talk with the host of the podcast China Unraveleld . we discuss the geo politics of China and where they stand in the NWO , thanks for listening and be sure to check out his podcast here :https://open.spotify.com/show/6atsCScccasMD2CeM1p9Le?si=cbf704c0b4b040d9

Jason Szetfel is a political and economical writing and commentator specializing on the Peoples' Republic of China. He has lived and studied in China over a period of five years and speaks Chinese. He is a graduate of Beijing University with a degree in large developmental systems. Jason is the host of China Unraveled Podcast and is due to release his upcoming book on the situation in China. This is part two of his interview. Topics:·         How the Chinese economy really works·         The eminent implosion from a lack of child births·         The intense internal security apparatus of the regimePhilip Sharp's Essay Segment:·         MMT compared with consumer economy·         The example of a sims game for how a top-down economy would look like·         A government ran economy would like our state road crews and the DMV

Welcomes to the for the king podcast, and that king being Jesus Christ, the son of God, today I have Jason Szeftel with me. He is a political and economic writer specializing in the nation of China. He mainly focuses on economic and political dimensions of China but today he is joining me to speak about the religious atmosphere in China and more specifically Christianity. Jason's website: https://www.jasonszeftel.com/ Jason's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654 Key Text: Habakkuk 2:14 Website: forthekingpodcast.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/For-The-King-105492691873696/ Contact: forthekingpodcast@gmail.com Donate Crypto: https://commerce.coinbase.com/checkout/f63fd7db-919e-44f6-9c58-8ec2891f3eb5 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/rocky-ramsey/support

Jason Szeftel is a political and economical writing and commentator specializing on the Peoples' Republic of China. He has lived and studied in China over a period of five years and speaks Chinese. He is a graduate of Beijing University with a degree in large developmental systems. Jason is the host of China Unraveled Podcast and is due to release his upcoming book on the situation in China. Topics:·         The outward image of China is not the real China·         The economic difficulties that China is facing ·         The gargantuan real estate bubble that exists in China·         It is hard to see the situation in China where it doesn't end badPhilip Sharp's Essay Segment:·         Propaganda is an official office in China, but still practiced in the West·         The controlling of historical observations and conclusions a form of propaganda ·         The dangers of Big Media as a means of control and leverage

Jason Szeftel, a political and economic writer and podcaster stops by to talk about China. Jason has always been fascinated with China; he learned the language, studied in Beijing and traveled extensively throughout the country. He is familiar with China's culture, its people, its economics and its politics. His upcoming book, China Unraveled, chronicles the story of China's many cycles of order and chaos, and it poses the question, “What does the next phase in China's history mean for the United States and the world?” China's future clearly depends on trade because it cannot even begin to consume the volume of goods that it produces. It has become very successful as the world's leading manufacturer, and yet, its success has brought numerous destabilizing changes within the country. It struggles to maintain a delicate balance between a highly globalized future and another plunge into a dark - often violent - period of chaos. China is not alone on the precipice; it has become such an integral part of the world's economy that if it falls back into chaos, it could well bring the rest of the world with it.

Attention, attention! Gather 'round everyone, as we welcome author and proclaimed 'China expert' Jason Szeftel. Hermes and Theron chop it up with Jason regarding Chinese influence, American paranoia, politics, military strategy, and so much more. Enjoy! .If you liked this, and want to hear more, give us a follow and let us know! Or maybe you just want to tell us how awful we are? Comments help the algorithm, and we love to see ‘em! And as always, don't kill the messenger. .Connect with Jason:Website - https://www.jasonszeftel.comTwitter - https://twitter.com/jasonszeftelYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/dagrungerPodcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654 .~Beloved Sponsors~Rogue Ales & Spirits - https://www.rogue.com/ Exotic Fridge - https://www.instagram.com/exoticfridge .Join our DISCORD server!! https://discord.gg/z7Nbk2Fkv9 .Whiskey Fund (help support our podcast habit!):PayPal - hermesauslander@gmail.com  Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/hermesauslander YouTube - https://youtube.com/channel/UCY9JLTc925sjlmRUjxHPC3Q. If you're interested in some of the stuff we use or maybe just some of the specific items discussed during the episode: check out these links. Full disclosure, we do get a monetary kickback from some of them. We seriously just want to keep doing this forever, and links like this make it possible. Thanks for your support!.Affiliate Links https://linktr.ee/equiplinks .Connect with Hermes:https://www.instagram.com/hermes_auslander/ https://twitter.com/hermesauslander.Connect with Morpheus:https://www.instagram.com/gamespainter723/ .Connect with Khaleesi:https://www.instagram.com/khal.33si/https://twitter.com/khal_3ssi Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/hermesauslander?fan_landing=true)

With a historic tapestry woven with turmoil, peace, mystery, and beauty, it is now all but demonized in the U.S. - primarily on the political stage. But is China truly a dark giant that we need to fear? On this episode of Voluntary Input I speak with author Jason Szeftel who hosts the China Unraveled Podcast. Be sure to visit https://voluntaryinput.com to learn more, contact us, or to Register as a Guest - we are always looking for great guests like you! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/voluntary-input/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/voluntary-input/support

Hey folks, welcome to another great interview on The Mind of a Skeptical Leftist. This time around I talked to Jason Szeftel about China and some of the misunderstandings that people seem to have about the country and its history. You can find the full shownotes here - https://skepticalleftistpod.wordpress.com/?p=473 You can become a patron and get longer unedited versions of the show at patreon.com/skepticalleftist Rate the podcast here - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-mind-of-a-skeptical-leftis-1779751 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/skepticalleftist/message

Writer Jason Szeftel discusses the politics and economics of China. His podcast CHINA UNRAVELED covers in depth the complexities of Hong Kong and other issues China faces today. 

Jason is a China specialist with a deep understanding of China and the Chinese economy. He helps people understand China, our changing world, and what it means for individuals, families, and businesses. I can discuss global political tensions, the global economy, and China's impact on different economic sectors and ways of life. He helps people understand China, how it is different, and where it is headed. He seeks to give people context to better navigate our fast changing world.Learn more at https://www.jasonszeftel.com/ 

Here with us today is Jason Szeftel. He is an expert with China politics. Listen how we tackle issues regarding force labor and many more.======================================Ari Gronich0:25Welcome back to another episode of creating a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. And today I have with me Jason Szeftel. Jason is an expert in China politics. He is a writer, a podcaster, and a consultant. He's been in the world of sustainability. And I'm really excited to have a conversation with him about all of that, because, you know, this world we're living in is changing. And we are creating a new tomorrow today and activating our vision for a better world. And Jason might have some good ways for you to do that. And, you know, relationships with the rest of the world. Jason, welcome to the show.Jason Szeftel1:45Thanks, Ari. I'm glad to be here.Ari Gronich1:49Why don't you tell us a little bit about your background, how you got started in, in the relationship with China, and some of your sustainability and those kinds of things. your background?Jason Szeftel2:02Yeah, sure. My China angle for me goes back a long time, probably around 20 years. But I was really, really got interested in China around when 911 and the Iraq war. And all of that really started. That was very curious about not even curious, I was kind of worried and curious and tense and nervous, wondering what was going on in the world, are we going to see with China, the same sort of bizarre miscalculations and hysterical reactions we saw with the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. And then here we are 20 years later, and we've kind of fled with our tail tucked between our legs. And over that time, I just wanted to learn what was really going on in China, what the country was really about what to do with a country that's so large and complex. And we had to understand we have to really understand it, if you want to have any sort of way to get our hands around where it's going and where it comes from. Really. And then yeah, so I started I went, I learned Chinese. In college, I got a scholarship to study in China, in Beijing, at Beijing University. There, I learned about various systems. Actually, that's where a lot of the sustainability stuff came in. I was really interested early on, in how are we developing the world today? How, what systems what electrical types of systems are we building, sustainable water systems, transportation systems, all of this. And when I was actually in China, I was studying their transportation networks, agricultural systems, their demography, all of those inputs that kind of give us the societies that we live in. I was just very curious where that was going. And yeah, at the time, that was the, you know, 2010 to 2015, I was in and out of China, most of the time. And that was where that was kind of the heyday for me of sustainability, and what kind of sustainable future we were going to build. And I actually learned a lot of things that kind of set me against a lot of the mainstream about how would we would get that done? And what would work and what wouldn't work? And yeah, so I've just been kind of putting some pieces together, trying to figure out what could work and what we could do, and then trying to share it with people.Ari Gronich4:00Awesome. So you know, this show is all about going against the mainstream. So let's talk about a little bit of what the mainstream solutions are. And what you've found, are the flaws in those systems, and you know, how they can be improved?Jason Szeftel4:17Sure, well, right now, the two main systems from a sort of renewable energy perspective, it could just take this sort of green energy, which is very important, since the Industrial Revolution, you need energy to run society to run any of these civilizations, any of these industrial systems. And we've typically ran on fossil fuels, coal, oil, natural gas, and everyone, every where's talking about how we're going to get rid of them. And the main two that we've come up with are basically wind turbines, wind energy, and then solar energy with solar panels. And these two things are awesome. I have nothing against them. I think they're very cool. But the issue is that most of the world, the vast majority of the world does not have the solar irradiation you need or the wind speed, height and consistency that you need to have panels, I mean startup panels or turbines running. So if you sort of map it out, and you look at the sort of places where you have the right solar conditions, or at certain conditions that radiation you need, or the right wind conditions, to a very small percentage of the world. And you if you put that next to the places that have the population centers nearby, it's tough otherwise, you have to build very, very large transmission systems. And in the United States, for example, it's very tough to build a single transmission line, it can take decades, it can take 10,15 years. And so, red tape, but a lot of things, it could be environmental things, you could be crossing a lot of preserve, you know, sort of habitats that need to be preserved or endangered species, it can cross through tribal lands, red tape, and then yeah, and then there's increasing backlash from a lot of rural areas. So in California, the two oldest areas for one of the tools areas for wind and solar energy is near Palm Springs. And people in Palm Springs now see a lot of the solar and wind energy production as almost industrializing the landscape. So they don't want to see wind turbines, as far as the eye can see that I want solar panels on all land surrounding them. And it's a real challenge. So that's particularly on the left, where there's so much investment in these two technologies, there's ever more competing interests. And it's interesting that these are both environmental versus environmental, environmental versus humanitarian, environmental versus sometimes racial or other other justice issues.Ari Gronich6:38So when it comes to those two, right, we're not talking about something that I've thought of as a great source of energy for years, which is wave energy, right, the flowing of waves, so they're constantly coming into shore, there is a way to harness that energy, right. But we're not talking about that as far as like a main kind of energy source. The other thing that comes to mind with regards to things like the wind turbines, right, I remember reading, this is maybe 12, 13 years ago, and a Popular Science magazine was a wind turbine that was horizontal. So instead of vertically spinning, it's been horizontal and spun on basically a fulcrum. So there was very little resistance. So it was like a three mile per hour breeze that would cause it to generate energy, which is almost nothing and can be found almost everywhere. Yet, those kinds of newer forms of the old technology still aren't being adopted, right? The solar panels are just starting to undergo transformation in their technology as well. To make you know them less expensive. So here's my question, the point of that rant is, when it comes to these things, how quickly can we move with technology if we got out of our own way, rather than holding technology back due to money concerns and other things like that?Jason Szeftel8:31Yeah, it's an open question. But even you bring up a really good point, that there are different styles of these sorts of technologies, and some of them aren't being considered as much. A big reason why is that? It's a question of scale, and centralization, and a lot of ways. So the large solar and wind companies are just as invested in controlling these resources as a typical fossil fuel company, oil company is. So they want to build giant wind farms. And giant solar farms. Because it gives you scale, it gives you a large size. They're not as interested in doing small micro local sorts of things. There's a big battle going on between should we have giant, giant transmission lines all over the world and all over the country in sort of take advantage of the great wind corridors in the center of the country and sort of shift the energy out, you know, and take advantage of, you know, the Southwest, the United States for solar, or should we try and do this in a more diffuse distributed way, where you have little, little power plants everywhere? I mean that's a big question. Yeah, I mean, that's just one of the things we always got to remember. It's trillions of dollars to replace the grid. And it brings up real questions about reliability, about who runs it, how the systems work, because they're not meant for solar panels on every house. That's not how they're designed. And we'll see where it goes. But you also bring up the question of the tech, the actual, how far can we go? With the technologies we have and so, on solar panels, there's about there's an efficiency threshold, we really not gonna be able to go beyond it. But it's very good, I mean, it's very good. And then with wind turbines, you're sort of what they've decided to do is just go for bigger and bigger turbines, they're not really changing, like, the arrangement of them, they really just want them huge. I mean, I think they're multiple football fields long at this point. And that's also really good for the companies. Companies like vest das in Europe, the manufacturers, these because no one is gonna come at you, if you manage. If you're manufacturing things that big. It's, there's very few companies that can do it. The other question is the industry, where's it located? So and so one of the things with solar panels Is that something like 80% of all solar panels are built in China. And most of the polysilicon one of the key ingredients comes from shinjang. Whereas run it where the entire system runs on forced labor. So there's a big question about, well, should we be getting solar panels from there? You know, if we ramp it up to kind of expand it all over the country and all over the world to run on solar energy? Are we going to do that on the backs of forced labor, in western China, with their people, and basically, in concentration camps, three indoctrination camps and stuff like that? These are real questions. And it's, again, I think there's a strong corporate push at this time behind traditional renewable energy in the form of solar and wind companies. And I find a lot of dishonest at this point, especially because they pretend like there's gonna be a big green revolution in terms of energy and jobs. It's like, No, you guys are just buying panels from China and installing them. The jobs are an installation and construction, it's like, those are temporary jobs, you get the build out, you get the time you get the jobs from the build out, then it's gone.Ari Gronich11:45So, you know, let's say, I mean, we obviously can't change China's stance on how they treat their employees. And at least it up till now our policies are as such that it is tremendously incentivized to work with China, right? versus other places that have maybe better policies towards their people. So how do we bridge that gap between bringing those jobs back to America, bringing those jobs actually to anywhere that they're going to be installed, the manufacturing should be kind of in the areas in which there'll be installed? So that we're always buying local, right? So even big companies can, you know, think a little differently and do that. But how do we bridge those gaps?Jason Szeftel12:43Yeah, that's a great question. And I think you really nailed it, it's going to be more production, where the consumption or the installation happens. That's where things are trending. And the way it works is that China basically flooded the market with solar panels, and did them below cost so no one else can compete to basically cornered the market during the 2010s. That's what happened. They just wiped out the competition. It was not. Again, you don't want to say what's fair, unfair in sort of global economics, it's kind of not how it works. But that's the game they played, and they did very well. So most US solar panel manufacturers are all gone. And what they're relying on now is industrial policy. So they're relying on the Biden administration just like the Trump administration to start, basically, preventing, incentivizing things to make it happen, make them happen in the US subsidizing things, tariffing, different products from abroad, and basically trying to rearrange the global production system we've had since the 1980s. That's kind of what's happening. We see it in semiconductors, we see it in certain solar energy stuff, we see it with certain rare earth minerals. It just goes on and on. It's kind of what we're seeing across the board. COVID really set this, I mean, just set this loose after with the PPE and all of the vaccine problems, mean people in the United States would be freezing out if we didn't have vaccines made in the country. If they were coming from India or China, it would be even worse. So it really gave people a sense of almost like a national security thing for production for the economy. And we're seeing it. I mean, it's almost a bipartisan thing at this point. So we'll see where it goes. But that's where things are happening. We're not really trying to help other countries as much anymore, trying to prevent it from being in China. Number one, trying to build it here. And then we'll figure everything else out later. That's kind of the thought process.Ari Gronich14:26Yeah, well, so my thought process is always How can we plan and work backwards versus, you know, plan from the end result, right. So, in my case, this series I told you about, when in our pre interview, the series of books that I'm writing, tribal living in a modern world is a lot about how do we take technology and marry it with nature, marry it with a natural way of living that does support all the people on the planet and In a way, that's not like the planet isn't killing us because of what we've done to it, right? So how do we marry the modern, the technology, the influx of this revolution that started with the industrial revolution? and bring it back to a sustainable natural flow so that they're kind of together and helping one another versus destroying one another?Jason Szeftel15:30Yeah, that's a big question. I think it's one of the things that really animated the sort of sustainability movement, the more modern one that's more technologically focused since the mid 2000s. It's been a huge question that we need this greater sense with global warming, with climate change, with anything going on in the world. And even with the sort of political conflicts you see everywhere, resource conflicts, water conflicts, that we have to do something. But there is a real question. And a real challenge, just because it's not clear that we can do this for everyone everywhere. what's likely is that the sort of place that could have a sort of marriage of nature and technology is a place like the United States that puts the money into it really invest in it develops a host of new technologies which don't exist, and then is able to sort of transform its society and economy while also keeping it stable, and productive and healthy. Most places on earth cannot do that. And so for China, for example, trying to just transform the Chinese energy system is a massive, massive undertaking. So they use 50% more energy in China than in the United States. And they have all the dirty industries on Earth, right? They do more steel manufacturing, like steel and aluminum preachers like 50% of the entire world, they pull 50% of all the coal in the world out of the ground. Everything. I mean, all these really, really energy intensive, dirty industries, whether it's, you know, minerals processing, or gas, or steel and steel in different smelting procedures. It's just that everything is 30% of world manufacturing. So how do you retool this entire production node in the world to run on new forms of energy? I mean, it's trill again, trillions and trillions of dollars. And it's tough for China to do because they need low costs for everything they have to keep people employed. They can't have dislocated people running out of the factories and started marching through the streets, like you saw on a bit in Hong Kong. I think that it's really tough to see I actually see more countries, not marrying nature and technology in a wholesome way, but sort of heading heading back down in a bad way, not able to get the resources they need, not able to evolve their economy and the way they need not able to sort of bring society forward. At the same time as they're doing all this. It's just extremely difficult. And even in the United States, we don't have the best politically minded, cooperative sort of party system right now. So we'll see how that goes.Ari Gronich17:57I mean, if you were to if you were to like if you were to be doing this, right, but I was Biden, for instance, and you are giving me your, you know, five minutes, so to speak, your your elevator pitch on why I should listen to your consulting, and what I should be doing with the country. As far as this aspect goes, what would you be saying to me?Jason Szeftel18:28I don't want to shirk the question. But I will say that I don't think that the President has nearly as much power as people thinkAri Gronich18:33I understand that. And, and here's how, here's where I feel the power lies. The power lies in somebody like Kennedy saying, we're going to the moon, you have a decade to do it. You know, it's just gonna be done. It's like a mandate, right? They say something, and then the world kind of starts doing the things to make that happen. Right. So Biden has the power of a leadership position where he can create a mandate, he can say, this is what we're doing, you know, like a Kennedy would, I don't think we've had anybody since Kennedy, like that. Jason Szeftel19:17We'll also think our government or federal government's not as competent as it was particularly starting in the 1970s. Its ability to actually execute on programs like that for multi decade or even 5, 6, 10 years. It's just completely almost disappeared. So what we see is some of the biggest revolutions are just privately funded things. So for example, the shale revolution, particularly in Texas, North Dakota, and in Pennsylvania, all these small places, they, it was revolutionary for the US energy system, but it wasn't didn't come through any federal initiatives and actually sort of had to push back against a lot of state initiatives that didn't want fracking and didn't want all this stuff to happen. But it's been probably the biggest energy transformation in 50 years in the United States. So I'm very wary of, I love the idea, I love going to the moon, setting the mission, setting the plan. But even look at NASA since the end of the Cold War, NASA hasn't been able to do anything right now. It's gonna be Elon Musk that goes to the moon with his rockets in Texas.Ari Gronich20:15Now, I understand that. But here's the thing, I guess is the difference. Most people believe that when the government says, Let's do a mandate, that it's the government doing the job, right? You don't realize that it's the private contractors, it's the private citizens, the private companies, the engineers, the geniuses, that are actual human beings, right, that are doing the job that are getting paid. So when they hear something like this will be trillions and trillions of dollars, they don't hear Cha Ching, that means that we're going to be getting paid. That means that our communities are going to have sustainable incomes, and we're going to have a future and we're going to have money to spend and we're going to have things to do all they hear is it's going to cost trillions of dollars. Right? So I guess this is where, yes, I believe that private companies are the answer, private citizens, private people, but I believe that there needs to be some kind of level of incentive that says, You guys got to do this. And you gotta do it now. Because we're not waiting anymore. For your, you know, return on investment, so to speak, we're looking at what's the newest technology? How can we get it out the fastest and most effective, etc.Jason Szeftel21:37Yeah, so I don't want to shirk your question, I'll get back to it and just say, I think that what I would what I would tell them to focus on is, you know, actually try and focus on technology development in certain key areas and stop thinking about technology as just new texting apps, and new video messaging apps and stuff like that. We've really diluted the meaning of the word, technology. And it's really tragic. And some of the consequences. So I'd say, you know, focus on encouraging people to develop new ways to deal with natural disasters. Are there better ways that we can deal with fires? Is there something better than throwing water on it? Right, is there something we could do, you know what I mean, things like that, I think are very important. Ari Gronich22:16You're in LA, right?Jason Szeftel22:17I am in LA? Yeah, I am familiar with it.Ari Gronich22:19I saw 310 cuz my numbers were 310. And so I used to live through those LA fires, right. And I had an idea once and I brought it to the government. I said, Let's plant some ice plants all alongside the mountains, they grow very well there. They don't need a lot of water, but they hold a lot of water. It's like planting cactus, they'll keep a lot of that area from, you know, from burning, because it'll extinguish the fires, but nobody listened. was kind of interesting. It was like a really easy thing I felt like to do. But you're right. We're not telling people to do that.Jason Szeftel23:00Yeah, and it's a lot of the reason is just the government contracting methods. So let's say you and I had an idea for how to better, you know, fight fires in California, well, we'd go and we'd pitch something to, you know, probably this callfire, it would take, you know, three years for them to get back to us. And then you know, we get a decision, then we'd start we get to work on the project for maybe two, three more years. And it's just, it's this massive, extended timeline to try things out. So I believe they should be more encouraging of a lot more experimentation in agriculture and transportation technologies in electrical and energy technologies. I mean, the places bizarre. I mean, even the right to try, that's, I think that's a very good policy, like let's, you know, people are going to die, they have no other options. We should try things if they want, if they want to pay consent, you know, try things. I think that's a good policy. But it's funny, the place where you see the bizarre small innovation and experimentation is often in the military. The military has things like DARPA, that are invested in trying to push things forward with technology. And a lot of impressive technologies have come out of that. So we need a bit more of that focus. It's just very hard to get it together in government, especially the state governments trying to contract with state governments is not fun. So those procedures, I think a lot of things related to it sounds a bit, you know, buzzworthy, but smart government things that can just running the systems for government on more modern systems would be a really good thing. The reason everything's so bad on a government website is because it took the same thing we said, three, you know, six years ago, seven years ago, they had an idea for the website for unemployment benefits in Florida. And then, you know, crisis hits, and it all collapses because it was like, well, this thing was basically 2010 technology, and we don't live in that and it can't be updated. It's not right. It's not right.Ari Gronich24:47Yeah, you know. That's part of like, in general. My issue with business, with government, with what I see in the world, like, I see the technologies as they come out, you know, like the prototypes and the things that people are working on and they're showing done. And then I see what's out and I go, there's such a gap, it's like a 50 year gap between what is here, and what's developed and could be out. And bridging those together is usually a conversation of money, which to me is like the silliest conversation we could have, right? Money is something we made up, the planet, we didn't make up. You know, we didn't make up the need of money to be people who wanted to innovate or grow or things like that, I just find that by using that money as the excuse not to, we have stunted our personal growth, our financial growth, our systemic growth, and, you know, our technological growth.Jason Szeftel26:11Yeah, the places where you see the most technological growth tend to be places with a big consumer market that you can keep coming back to. So if you look at iPhones, or consumer electronics, you get a lot of innovation, just because every year you can put up something new and you can convince them to buy it. And that's huge, big promise for these technologies is if you just have a government buyer, if you just have something like that you can't get rates of innovation and iteration that you need to really continuously advance them. And so in China, for example, there's a new policy, not new five, six years old, called civil military fusion, where basically the Chinese government realized that they can't develop military technology, as it's as good as a lot of consumer stuff. And so what they're doing is trying to actively take consumer technologies, things like electronics, or little drones, that kids use to take videos or whatever to and bring that into the military, because they've realized that the military timelines are now too long and too slow for the same reason. And the United States has actually the same problem. They tried to have a big military cloud product they bought it from there's a whole brouhaha between Microsoft and Amazon. And they basically just said, you know, we're gonna cancel the contract, even though it's four or five years old, because already the technology is already too old. So there's a real challenge of bringing, we actually see. have to find a way to either give something a consumer market, to let it innovate continuously, right? Or you're in trouble. And so it's, that's the place where you can really see a lot of innovation, it's just hard to get. That's why so many technologies just die on the vine, can't pay the people to keep doing it.Ari Gronich27:44So there was something I saw recently, and it was, I think Samsung had their TVs on a subscription, where you're paying just, you know, a monthly amount, and you get the TV and every couple years or whatever, you get the latest one. So you send them back that one, you get the latest one kind of like Apple does with the iPhones these days. And stuff like that. Would it be with you know, if we have to have a money system, I think that would be a good money system is we have a subscription model instead of a buy for model. And that way, we're encouraging innovation versus encouraging people to have to get rid of their inventory before they can sell anything new.Jason Szeftel28:32Yeah, I mean, a lot of things are moving towards the subscription model. It's pretty crazy. Everything feels like it's a subscription. Now, Netflix is a subscription, your entertainment is a subscription. Even writers are doing subscription stuff on substack. There's a subscription ification of everything. It feels like I think there's a good reason why it gives you reliable recurring revenue in a way that one off purchases, that could be one year four, five, six in between really don't do. And often you just don't need as many as much marketing, customer acquisition can be a lot lower, smaller enough to do as best as much. If you have someone in there with you for years, it's reliable revenue, you can loan you could lend off of it, you can do a lot of cool stuff. So I don't think it's going to replace the money system. But it's becoming a bigger and bigger part of the way services are sold in almost every app and every sort of cool app on the internet or on your Mac or on your iPhone. They want you to subscribe because it gives them the certainty that they'll have money and they'll actually continue to invest in improving the technology or at least keeping it up to date for the newest operating system. There's a lot of apps I'll get on my Mac that are free that once you update to a new operating system. They just never updated either because they don't have any incentive to so the subscriptions are definitely here to stay. Although they're kind of getting out of control. They want you to have a subscription for like boxes for your dog. And like everything.Ari Gronich29:56I'm I'm more thinking like if that was the model we went to for technology, like, you know, whether it be our energy system, we're on subscription models, but they don't update the technology with every month, you know, the way that we're paying for subscription, they keep the technology, kind of they maintain it, but they they're not always updating. So that's where I'm thinking, like, Is there a way I just want ways I want things that we can do something that people if they're listening to this in the background, the audience, you know, they're like, what do I do, I'm passionate about something, and I want to be able to, you know, create a sustainable life, I want to create sustainable living with all the subscriptions people are going broke. Because they don't realize that the $9 here and the $10 there and the $9, there's adding up to $3,000. Right, so I you know, it's like, how do we get to where innovation and sustainability technology, and free flowing ideas is like the norm again, kind of like the Roman era or the Greek, you know, era where people were the Renaissance, where it was all about rebirth and growing, I think we've like hit this stage in our evolution, where it's like, we like we got to a place in the 50s, where we liked it, and we just want to stay there forever. And, and so, how do we get back to that rebirth? mentality? I know, you talked a little bit about the psychology of it.Jason Szeftel31:44Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think there's a bit of stasis. And you know, we're all watching Tick tok, and watching videos and all the subscriptions we have are typically little consumer comforts, that let us just keep doing what we're doing, kind of avoid the fact that the rest of the world that we live in, looks exactly like it did in 1970. None of the new physical systems are there, most of LA was built, every home feels like it's a weird, poorly built stucco building from the 70s. They were supposed to go up for like 5, 10 years be replaced and then never get replaced. So yeah, we live, you know, our digital comforts, and digital, little digital consumer electronics really helped us avoid realizing and looking at the fact that the world around us otherwise looks completely old, 50 years old. And you know, in China, it's a bit different, everything is brand new. So there's actually a lot more of a forward looking hungry edge to it, they've seen transformation in their lifetimes in a way that most of us have not. So to get back to it is a real, I mean, it's I think it's like a key key thing we all need to be thinking about. But for stuff, little people, I mean, stuff, little things people can do. That little people, I mean, the challenge with energy is that you often need huge, multi billion dollar investments. So that's not it. But so I mean, if you live in the southwest of the United States, you basically live in one of the best places to have solar energy, you should probably get, I don't want to say should, you can get solar panels on your home, that can be installment payments, and it probably will be a great deal. The panels are really good now. So people who bought solar panels, like 10 years ago, they were paying, they were paying for you to have great solar panels today. You don't I mean, those are outdated, and they're terrible compared to what we have now. And the cost is going down so much. I think you mentioned this earlier, that by 20, 30, solar panels are going to be really, really cheap. And they're going to be at industrial scale at sort of major grid scale stuff, they're gonna be really good. But for consumers, the probably be even better. So that's a great thing to do. I mean, I think Solar City, which is owned by Tesla, Tesla, energy, whatever it's called, now, they integrate batteries and solar panels on your home. And that's a good that's a good combo if you if you want to live in a world where you there's electric cars and solar panels and batteries. And that's I mean, that's a big part of the future. That is advocate the of the most optimistic future advocated by the solar energy cohort of the sort of renewable technology thing. That's something to invest in. I have certain reservations about electric cars, like for example, in China, I don't think China's ever going to be able to run on electric cars, there's, it would need something like four or five times the amount of energy China currently uses, which is more than any country ever, which is 50% more than the United States. And they don't have the energy for that. You would need massive, probably massive, massive amounts of nuclear energy to do that. That's probably the only way. So yeah, I think that's something people should keep in mind running. certain places aren't going to run on electric cars and solar energy. Germany is a great example. They built alot of solar panels in Germany, but they forgot to look up at the sky. And notice that it's overcast all the time. So there's a big installed capacity of solar panels, unfortunately, also old panels, like we said, they said, Germany is subsidized the good panels you can get today. They just, it's just the actual energy generation, the power generation from these panels is very limited. And so Germany actually uses more coal than it did 10 years ago. So those are one of those contradictions that you, you don't get caught in. But again, for people here who live in the southwest, feeling Florida, he lived in the southern part of the United States. So panels ain't a bad idea. And so that's a good one that I would focus on for the energy side of things. Yeah, it's good. The time is there, time is now.Ari Gronich35:42So, you know, you mentioned China could never run unless it was like on nuclear. Unless maybe it was local. You know, local supply, I think, might be a little different. But here's I guess that where I want to go with this question. So we're looking at China, and all of the innovation, all of what they're doing, all the energy, they're consuming the pollution that they're making, the violations that they have on human rights. And we go, all right, we don't really understand their culture much. And so we judge it from our outside perspective and our outside eyes. And so you have a little more of an insider's view on you know what it is to be in China and what it is to be under that culture. So just for the audience who has preconceived notions, which ones are true, which ones not so much. Can you kind of just illuminate on what this thing that we've now known to be? China?Jason Szeftel36:57Yeah, so there's a lot of sort of myths and sort of misconceived notions about China. I'll just try and kind of run through some things that people might find illuminating, to give them a sense of that place. And, yeah, I think one interesting thing people wouldn't realize, and that is so hard for people from the west to understand is that the Chinese Communist Party is not despised as a totalitarian dictatorship. Until the last 10, 15 years, the Chinese Communist Party was actually not in most people's faces. But all that much, it wasn't like authoritarian forcing you to do this or that there was a lot of freedoms on the ground level, because people were, they wanted to encourage private innovation. So back in the 70s, very different story back in the 60s, very different story. 50 very different story. But in the last 50 years, overall, it hasn't been 40 years, it hasn't been up in people's grill all the time, although that's now changing. And so the party is actually thought to be a good force of ease that you can't do polls in China, because that would be dangerous. But in a healthy majority of Chinese people think the Communist Party is overall a good thing. And they support it hard to hard to believe that goes very much against our Western individualist ideas, That's the way it is. So So why, what what MC, isAri Gronich38:18So why? Is it indoctrination? Is it just history and culture? Is it? What is it that that says to them? And are they allowed to be individuals still, even within the system of control that they're in?Jason Szeftel38:32So there's always a propaganda element in every Chinese state, that the Chinese state has to manage its population. So China has on a broad scale has overall bad land relative to the size of the country, and it has limited capital. So it doesn't have a lot of money, it doesn't have the best land. And so there's labor land and capital and technology, but just thinking about labor, land capital, the primary resource in China is labor. It's always been the population. You if you need a great wall built in the desert, you send millions of people to do it. If they end up as mortar for the stones, well, you have millions more. And that's what you see. You need to build things. You get them sent here, you just send people all over to deal with whatever needs to get done. But the people are also a threat. At the same time. You have a large, large, poor population, there's something like the entire population of the United States, there's like a group that large in poverty in China. It's hard to fathom. And yet the Chinese government and Chinese people are more concerned with one thing probably than anything else. And that's political integrity, its political stability and order. And the thing they're contrasting the communist party with isn't some Western democratic liberal ideal of a individualist democracy, blah, blah, blah. It's just chaos. They see the two options as order, often tyrannical authoritarian and terrible versus chaos, which is much worse. And most of China's history is chaotic, it's chaos. It's not in an integrated state ruling over an integrated people integrated territory. It is warring factious clans, and warlords duking it out all across the country. Ari Gronich0:11Wow. So you're talking about the land like, you know, we have a whole song about how majestic our land is. So I want you to, I want you to explain that in a way that people who have never been there could grasp what that means for the people what that land is like and what it means for the people.Jason Szeftel0:30Sure. So China's big. China's about the size of the United States overall, like the physical territory. But China, something like 66-70% of China is mountainous. And a large part of China is just huge deserts, the whole western and northern parts of China are massive deserts. So when you get down to it, the sort of flat, temperate, arable land, you can farm-on, build cities easily, all of that is really small. It's something like maybe 15% of the entire country, and maybe the size of Colombia, like the state of Colombia and South America, that's very different than the United States. The United States probably has 30% of the country, mountainous and hilly, right, sort of like the Rockies. And you know, Denver and Salt Lake are, and then you have massive flat stretches of land, all the way in between the Rockies and the Appalachian is basically the Appalachian Mountains is basically a giant Valley, it's like a million to a million square miles. It's enormous. And there you have the Mississippi River system, really like a bunch of rivers that are all interconnected, you can float things down, that you can send goods, products, troops, messages, everything down and across these rivers. And overlaid on top of these rivers are some of the best access to some of the best agricultural land on Earth. So you really have a Nexus, not trying to sing America, the beautiful here, but just to give the comparison, the United States does have a very, very, very fortunate set of natural features that are a major reason why this country is wealthy and powerful. It's not imperialism, it really isn't. It's not colonialism, the United States was the largest consumer market, the largest agricultural manufacturer, the largest industrial manufacturer, the largest food produced the largest everything by like the 1880s, within about 100 years after it was formed. And it's been all of that since for over 120 years. And that was before it ever invaded Cuba before it ever did any of that it was after the Civil War. So it wasn't built on the back of slavery. So that's something I want people to keep in mind. It's always good to have a good sense of our country, because otherwise we get caught up in very misguided and dangerous forms of American exceptionalism will think, oh, we're so great, because XYZ maybe, but maybe we'd be just as great if we all spoke Spanish, or if we'd all been Catholic or something. And my read on things is, that's probably true. If you happen to be in this part of North America, you've managed to take it all over. And no one had ever been here, in a sort of industrializing and heavily agricultural manner, like the Native Americans weren't quite like the 1000s of years of Chinese agriculture. It's very different. But in China, you don't have something like that. The Eastern lowlands of China that are basically the core regions of China are the yellow and Yangtze river valleys. This is 90% of the Chinese population lives there. And it is not like the United States. It's not like what we were just talking about, like this great large center heartland or whatever you want to call it of the United States. It's much meaner, it's much more overpopulated. It's crowded one way, think about it. Imagine the United States was mostly mountains. And then on the East Coast, you had a big kind of large East Coast was, you know, you could fit more people there, you had 90% of US population there. But instead of, you know, 300, 200, something million people, you had 1.2 billion people all stuffed there. So you have in China, you basically have the American Midwest. And on top of that, you have the equivalent of New York, and Boston, and Washington and all of it, it's all piled all piled on top of each other. There are people fighting for land, space, air, water, everything. And there are factories and mines and schools and in cities on top of farmland. I mean, this is just the way it is, there's not enough land. And that's really, really important to keep in mind.Ari Gronich4:17Right? And so for people who have belief systems, like everybody should go back to their country or something, right. We're talking about a country, where are they planning on going? Right, when the population gets too much for that place? Are they planning on terraforming some of those mountains? Are they I mean, like, what can they do? once that population is too much for the landmass?Jason Szeftel4:52It's a real question. It is certainly straining the ecological carrying capacity of the land. So many people China's built over 600 major cities that has over 100 major cities with over a million people that all built in the last few decades. And that's an enormous amount of people's products of resources that you need. And to sustain that is even harder, you have to keep feeding it, you have to keep pouring down. So you have to keep building buildings, you have to do all of that. It's just maintaining it is very difficult. But one thing people should remember is that waves of Chinese people have been leaving China for over 800 years. Okay, this has nothing to do again with colonialism. China was not never colonized. Or it was beaten up by Japan in the 20th century, but was not colonized by other European powers before that. And the reason you have waves of Chinese people in Southeast Asia, and why you have Chinese people in the United States, originally in California in the 19th century, is because China is chaotic and unstable. And you actually saw basically wars between the northern equivalent of northern and southern China, and the southern Chinese fled to Southeast Asia. And then they fled to California as well. These are typically people from southern China from the Guangdong Hong Kong sort of region. And it's that instability in China that has led to waves of Chinese people elsewhere in the world. So that's a very important thing to keep in mind. Because Yeah, people are you tell them to go back to their country, but they've left because of instability to call it often to call China a country is not correct. Like that's a new modern nationalist thing started in the 20th century, China was more of a culture and a civilization, ethnic heritage, cultural heritage than it was a single unified country. That's, that's important. But you also asked just the question of, well, what do you do with when there's too many people. So China has been in a war between its geography, nature, this terrible land it's been given, and any and all technologies that can use to help it. So China has enormous plans for everything, right? They're trying to move water from southern China, up to northern China, because northern China is sinking, drying out and getting covered in dust storms. And it's prone to drought and floods. And it's a problem in a lot of ways. So they're trying to do that, they're trying to build a green wall, basically, a Great Green Wall, to block out the expanding Gobi desert is trying to eat up a lot of northern China. So they're trying to do all these things. But there are fundamental limits, it costs a lot of money just to remediate all the pollution, all the, you know, the air and the water pollution. And like we mentioned, just paving over important farmland, all this kind of stuff, just to remediate that is trillions of dollars. So in a lot of ways, China is stuck with a kind of bluets load, it stuck with the development, it managed to get in the 80s,90s,2000,2010s. And it's going to have to make choices make tough choices about what to do afterwards. That's really the best way to think about it. But in China, typically, things devolve into pretty brutal scenarios you run out of, you have to choose between water and electricity to choose between getting fertilizer, and, you know, building military weapons or whatever. And that is, those sort of brutal questions might be coming back pretty soon. So that's what to keep in mind. It's very hard, like we said, like I was saying earlier, to, most places don't have the ability to marry nature and technology in the way that perhaps the US can if it can build a sustainable system. But like I mentioned with energy, even Chinese agriculture is its own disaster, Chinese transportation, a lot of it is just being built to keep people employed, right? Do you need autonomous electric cars, and rail systems to go to every single country, every single city? Wouldn't you just need one or the other? Maybe one of these never gonna do you need also planes and airports and every single one, like you a lot of the basic economics of these things aren't rational. This is a political project, all of this stuff in China, like we said, they worry about political integrity, and chaos. And that's what they're trying to prevent. And we'll see how it goes. But it's a tough, tough problem. Ari Gronich9:10Seems like a bit of a pressure cooker. Actually. You know, it seems like something's gonna blow.Jason Szeftel9:15I believe so. I believe so. I think that all you need is one the hammer to fall in one area, and it can start a chain reaction, that's what's always happened in Chinese history. So the people don't remember if China is a massive superpower. And it's always been it's, a once in future superpower. And this is just as rebirth into the modern world, which is kind of some of the narrative we've all heard. Really, if that is the case. Why? Why do all of its states always collapse? Every single one has collapsed. Every single Chinese state has collapsed and ended in a massive kerfuffle and bloody struggle. And we need to look at why that's happened. And see if there's anything different today. It's really the question is, What is different today. They could keep China together not? Well, China will continue forever, without any problem, because that's not what's happened. Ari Gronich10:06So let's take it to a cultural step there in that case. So culturally speaking, what keeps China going? Is the culture that they've developed over the last, however many 1000s of years of doing this behavior of implode, rebuild, implode, rebuild, implode, rebuild, right? So different mentality, different psychology. You know, let's talk about how the psychology of that is manifesting in the scenario versus, say, the psychology of, we're in this together, we can do this. And we just got to figure out and plan the steps and then execute them. Right. So taking it out of that emotional, back and forth, upheaval. Do you think that China's capable at this point of shifting the psychology from ancient to modern?Jason Szeftel11:12No, no, I think that the psychology is the desperate struggle for political integrity and unity. And it's very hard to move away from that. And so the way it works in China, like we were saying earlier, If US has a lot of different pieces, right? There's Texas, there's California, like there's the Northeast, the Northwest, there's Alaska, there's Hawaii, there's many different parts in different cultures all around the country. And that's something we all we always think about Florida is not California, Alabama, is not Minnesota. And this is the same thing in China. So when I'm talking about political integrity, and all of that, what I'm really talking about is northern China, Beijing is in northern China, Beijing actually means northern capital, in Chinese. And northern China is where you have political, military, and political military power. And what has always happened in China is that China is the creation of the Northern warlords, basically, and they conquered the rest of China. And they actually did that. Just as recently as well. That's there's only one time in Chinese history when there hasn't been like a northern power that took over everything else. And that's the culture that matters. That's the culture that is running the show. So southern China, in the southern ports have a very different perspective, Shanghai has a very different perspective, western China, Tibet, shinjang, very different perspective. But the overriding one, the only one that can come to the top, and really set the tone is the one in northern China, because that's the one that can keep things together, or can try to, if you let Hong Kong run China, there's not going to be China very long, there's not going to be any of that. So to have a unified China, you really need this northern power to keep things together and obsessively try and make it work. And usually it fails at some point. But that's the culture that rises to the top. So there's never No, no Chinese leader since Mao has ever been from southern China. They go down on tours to southern China. That's a big moment in Chinese history in the late 70s, early 80s. When and then early 90s, when Deng XIAO PING went to southern China, that was a big moment was it was a symbolic event, because southern and northern China aren't the same even ethnically or visually, a lot of Chinese people know and can tell someone who is from Southern versus northern China, it's, again, these have been not not even just separate countries. I mean, they've been different places that are populated for 1000s of years. Right there. There's a region in China called Sichuan, which has the good food that has its own, you know, old culture that had a culture that went back three over 3000 years, had its own language. And even today, the Sichuanese is like the language they speak there, more people speak that as a first language than German or French. And the, you know, the province of Guangdong in southern China, where Hong Kong is that there's more people there than any country in Europe, except for Russia. So there's just it's a scale question. So this question of like, can you integrate it into a new harmonious sort of cultural and if the Chinese perspective is no, there's way too much diversity, the histories are way too old. And what they did was they they simplified the language they impose written Chinese on everyone, because these languages in China they say they call them dialects. So this is a dialect this a doubt. It's not most languages in China are mutually unintelligible only propaganda calls them a dialect, right? But you have to do that because you want this sense of unity. It is essential. So that's what I would say this up and down this endless up and down, build, collapse, rebuild all that it has a permanent mark. And to move beyond it. That's been the goal since 1949, and Wilson's modern try since 1911, really, and they just have not found a way to do it, and technology and pushing into the future. Pushing as fast as you can. It's kind of like Republicans or Democrats trying to focus on enemies abroad or broader ideals that pushes people forward and can also avoid some of the immediate problems like, well, maybe everyone, the republican party doesn't agree right now on things. Maybe everyone that, you know, the democratic party doesn't quite see eye to eye and in factor, you know, clashing in moments? Well, let's look into the future. Let's just ride this technology wave as far as possible. That's what China's been trying to do.Ari Gronich15:30That sounds like a good thing to do, though. So that's what I like is let's ride technology as far as it can go, until it becomes seamless with the rest of nature and the rest of the world. But, so for Americans who want to do business with China, who are in the business, like, I used to do a lot of manufacturing of gym equipment, we know he had factories in China. So for people who want to do business with China, don't know how safe it is, don't know the processes and all that stuff. Just kind of give a little bit of a what would somebody want to think about? Jason Szeftel16:13Yeah, so the whole relationship with China is changing right now. It's transforming, there's more conflict, more animus than in hostility that we've seen since relations were normalized, in the 1970s. So we are really looking at a major sea change and what's been happening. So you know, how to think about it. Not to plug but I do if people have specific questions, sort of, you know, if you're in the entertainment industry, you want to see if your content can work, if you manufacture things, you want to see if your products will get stolen and copied right away. Those are sort of things I help address sort of directly, because it can be very specific. But in general, you probably, it depends industry by industry. But in general, I think what you said earlier, is the long term, right move. I think, if you can, you want production maybe in North America. I know that it's very difficult that the challenge of moving out of China is extreme. But the costs are also rising. I think that, you know, maybe you're not going to be able to do massive production runs all across the world, right, you don't need the same scale that you had, if you're just really selling in the United States. If the global supply chain system, global production world we live in changes, maybe you don't need that you can get ahead of the curve. But in general, it's very dicey these days, I mean, energy costs are going up across the Chinese coast. So our labor costs, so prices are higher. So a lot of them, they're eating a lot of those costs. So right now they're keeping people employed, their subsidies, etc. But they're rising, and a lot of people are moving to Southeast Asia. Is Vietnam. If you're, you know, textiles, you can move back to the United States, you can move to Southeast Asia, but does depends on each industry. But we're also seeing more and more party infiltration of operations in China. So just to think about it, just to give you a broad context, the Chinese Communist Party is a 95 million person organization that runs the country, right? So you have all these government agencies, and they're staffed by party officials, it's as if there was one, you know, Democratic Party, there's only one party allowed in this country. And they sort of had a shadow organization in everything, right. In the 1970s. Like I was saying earlier, this was everywhere, you used to get your food from the party leader, the party bureaucrat, the press secretary in your town, you get your housing from him, your business would be, you know, secured by him, etc. That changed when you had, you know, the privatization and entrepreneurial sort of time came, but later, now, we're kind of getting back to some of that. So there are party officials, party cells, party councils, and coming back to everything, multi-tenant buildings will have party officials, major corporations, all our party officials. So a lot of people that have joint ventures with companies in China are realizing that the state companies that they're partnered with, have a lot of party activity going on. And so the party is trying to both claim the glory for rejuvenating China and wants to be back in everyone's face and doesn't want to be behind the scenes as much anymore. Once people see the red armbands, you know what I mean? Here we are, you know, we rebuilt China, it's the national rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. But it's also just getting up into everyone's grill again. And so major tech companies are having, you know, there's party control of their data at this point as well. So I'd be very wary, I think, again, it really depends on the industry, if you're just manufacturing small things, probably not a big deal. Keep doing it wherever cost is lowest, right? I mean, you're trying to have a business. So that's a smart thing to do. If you're sending a lot of data back and forth to China, that's probably gonna be dicer and dicer. But, but yeah, it's again, I think there's so much transformation and change right now, that giving the broader sort of general stuff can be tougher, but the general stuff I'd say is that relations are getting worse with China every year and things are probably gonna keep getting worse. Because the humanitarian crisis in western China, the political conflict with Taiwan, the sort of eradication of a lot of the freedoms and everything that's gone on there for decades, centuries, the conflicts with potential conflict with Taiwan, you know, the militarization of the South China Sea, all this isn't going away. In fact, it's all kind of hitting into a massive nexus of problems. That is allowing the US government to target China more than ever before. We are also seeing more cyber attacks and cyber targeting by Chinese companies than we have ever seen. So how do I be wary of all this? Personally, I'm not going back to China. I don't think I'm welcome anymore. I wouldn't want to have an exit ban. So I come in and never allowed back. But people should be wary of this. I mean, this is not. Yeah. Ari Gronich20:44So, what's the devastation potential? As we pull back and start manufacturing in the US again? And in doing those local things? Is there a net devastation or a net benefit to like calming the water, so to speak, by taking back some of those jobs? And some of that? I mean, what the prognosis.Jason Szeftel21:07China? Do? You mean, calming the waters? Are there tensions with them?Ari Gronich21:11No, I mean, calming the waters as far as like, they're busy, right? They're busy, busy, busy, busy, they don't stop, they're busy. They're doing all our stuff, all their stuff, you know, all of the rest of the world stuff, as you said, like 50%, of manufacturing and of energy consumption and all these things. They're busy. If we pull back, and we start manufacturing in the US, as the largest probably user of the Chinese, you know, people. What's the prognosis? What's going to happen?Jason Szeftel21:49Well, it's a, it's a dicey thing, the Chinese system is built for exports, it got all the money, most if not all, got a lot of the money, it needed to develop the country through exports, since the 70s, late 70s, and 80s, it just money came in through the ports, they loaned against it, and they built everything in their country. That's the general super simplified story. So that's also where that's one of their most productive and credible industries. And it brings in hard currency and does a lot of things to stabilize the Chinese financial monetary system. But you know, if that goes away, there are deep deep challenges that the state has to face. And a big one is just that, China needs the enormous volumes of global manufacturing, it needs to build not just for China, widgets, just for China, but widgets for everyone. That's how it gets the volume. That's how it gets the profits. That's how it gets the scale. And that's how it keeps the employment levels up. China needs people employed and needs money coming in. And the US pulling back is a major, major threat, because the US is the largest consumer economy in the world. So you can add up the rest of Europe, and you're not going to get the same sort of effect for China. And they need to read. So this has been the whole thing, the last 10 years, people were like, well, China's gonna have to change catches export forever. Japan doesn't just do that Japan's clue that's just exporting all around the world, like it was in the 70s. Things have changed, but China's going to really struggle, I don't think it's, I don't think it's impossible for it to be a consumer economy. Ideally, China would want to start manufacturing for itself, sort of rejigger the economy, have more internal products and services and be able to sort of self-sustain what it's built. But that's for a lot of reasons. That's probably not possible. So this is this question. I mean, this is what makes the Chinese state governments so tense, so nervous and anxious, and defensive. You see that with every all of their diplomats are, you know, getting, you know, in everyone's face and having all this negative commentary, and they're, they're trying to project the image of power to their own people primarily. And, you know, to try and not be seen as weak to not have any, any event that could suggest that the Communist Party is, you know, weak or incompetent, or out of its depth, or illegitimate because they run on getting things done. Like you said, busy, busy, busy, keep doing things that people agree with it. You don't you can't vote on on their policies, but you can, you can see that they're responsive and making things better. And that's what they run on. It's like performance. It's like

Jason joins us again, as we discuss geopolitics, recent events, and what the future may hold for us, as he believes, we are entering a time of  "Deglobalization". Also, a ton of other stuff per usual.Find Jason and all of his work at  JasonSzeftel.comApple Podcasts (or anywhere you listen- "China Unraveled")YouTubeCheck out the store to pick up a comfy shirt.Support the show (https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=23LVD7LD3E5TJ)

Concerns of a new world order with Communist China at the helm have been rumbling for more than a decade. Jason Szeftel studied in China, is the host of the China Unraveled podcast, and the author of an upcoming book by the same name discussing the story of China's cycles of tyranny and chaos. How is the Joe Biden administration dealing with China and what does the next phase of their development mean for the United States and the world? China Unraveled podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654 Jason Szeftel YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/dagrunger Jason Szeftel Twitter: https://twitter.com/jasonszeftelch The Cave of Time is live every Saturday, 2:30pm EST on Odysee Join the new Discord: https://discord.gg/EpNt9cGHjf Odysee/LBRY: https://odysee.com/@cave_time YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSLMTube Twitter: https://twitter.com/cave_time Any podcast platform: search "The Cave of Time" This podcast is hosted by ZenCast.fm

Jake has once again graced us with his presence just in time for an interview with writer and fellow podcaster, Jason Szeftel. Jason, Jake and Jim spend this interview discussing the shortcomings of the US and Chinese plans for economic growth in the future. And let us tell you folks, China's internal political structures to the United States' shortsightedness and current instability, it ain't looking good. On the bright side, it is a good interview. Jason currently hosts the China Rising podcast as well as writes and blogs about China, which you can find links to, as well as info on his upcoming book at jasonszeftel.com. Transition music by Triple Heart 100 - https://bit.ly/3fY2pch

Ashton is joined by Jason Szeftel, host of the China Unraveled Podcast, to discuss what lies ahead for China. Ashton and Jason examine the most pressing issues and questions relating to the “People's Republic,” such as: Has China's multi-decade economic expansion come to an end? Will China suffer from a downward economic spiral this decade? Will the Chinese Communist Party be able to maintain its control over the nation? Will China invade Taiwan? How is China detrimentally impacted by its demography, geography, food resources and energy consumption? And much more.This was a fascinating conversation full of facts, figures, and in-depth analysis that you never hear in the mainstream press.You can learn more about Jason by visiting his website: https://www.jasonszeftel.com/ or listening to his podcast China Unraveled: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654Subscribe to Ashton Cohen: ELECTile Dysfunction Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ashton-cohen-the-electile-dysfunction-podcast/id1565208599Subscribe to Ashton Cohen: ELECTile Dysfunction Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6siXVSwM2OWz3itH90YRNA?si=v5MUMEpwTSG_sVGPOKHP8wSubscribe to Ashton's channel on Youtube: youtube.com/c/ashtoncohenFollow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/theashtoncohenFollow on TikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8nQjHta/Follow on Instagram: instagram.com/theashtoncohenFollow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theAshtonCohen

China is amazing. China has a rich and glorious history. China is a world of people and perspective that demands both our attention, and our respect. However, for far too many of us China is simply the latest villain on the world stage, geopolitical boogey man that we must fear, compete against, and in many ways defeat. Our special guest today is Jason Szeftel, author and host of the China Unraveled Podcast. With his insight and knowledge we'll make sense of what's happening in China and what that means for those of us with a western perspective. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/etchtheedges/support

What's really going on with China? And why it's actually more interesting and different then you're probably led to believe. Jason Szeftel, an author and the host of the "China Unraveled" podcast, sheds some simply put and easy to understand light on the big questions thrown around today surrounding China and world economics. Making this complex topic not only understandable but intriguing.Find Jason and all of his work at  JasonSzeftel.comApple Podcasts YouTubeVisit the Chronic Curiosity store to pick yourself or a friend up something curious.Support the show (https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=23LVD7LD3E5TJ)

A discussion with Jason Szeftel, a China specialist podcaster and author. He goes through the origins of the pandemic, China's specific health and internal security response to the pandemic. The politized nature of Covid - 19 health measures, misconceptions as well as myths about China. Additionally he gives an insight to the most common questions asked on the Chinese economy and compares it with US and India.

I'm talking to Jason Szeftel about China's role in solving the climate crisis, and how the West has exported much of its manufacturing, its carbon footprint and its rubbish to China. We look at economic stress and strains within the country, its desire for secrecy and the ever-increasing surveillance of its population. 

We hear about China all the time in the news, but is the country as big of a threat to the US as we so often hear? Is China our enemy? Is communism as bad as it sounds? Connor interviews Jason Szeftel, who is political and economic writer focused on all things China. His podcast called "China Unraveled" has charted the history and economic growth of China, the Hong Kong protests, the origin of the pandemic, and more. Find him on social @JasonSzeftel or listen to his podcast "China Unraveled" wherever you get your podcasts.

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On this podcast I have Jason Szeftel of the China Unraveled podcast to discuss China and its impact on California's economy and political landscape. There was a lot to unpack and we did our best to get it all in in just 50 minutes, but it was a fascinating discussion to learn more about China's history and political makeup. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/californiaunderground/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/californiaunderground/support

Given the recent news of Hong Kong's protests being squashed, the "China Question" looms larger. As no expert, the best way to learn is bring someone on the show who has been podcasting about the multi-facted and historical complexities involved as China pushes it's way center stage. Jason Szeftel writes and speaks on the politics and economics of China. His podcast "China Unraveled" covers in depth the complexities of Hong Kong, and other issues China faces today. 

Jason Szeftel is and author and podcaster with a background in international development, law, and economics. He's spent considerable time in China and was recently on our podcast to talk about China's influence in the world. He's back to talk about the history of Christianity in China. Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

How many libertarian podcasts can you think of that go into detail as to what is happening in China? I mean, let's be real... most of it is just general commentary about propaganda, censorship, and planned economies. For over a year, today's guest has been working on a book about China and just started his new podcast, the "China Unraveled" podcast, to explain what's actually going on inside the country. Jason Szeftel joins the show to discuss all that's happened during China's quarantine, its multi-layered coverup, its evolving Orwellian propaganda, the virus's impacts on the international economic system, and more! Find Jason Online: Twitter: @jasonszeftel Website: www.jasonszeftel.com Lily Tang Williams Episode: https://briannichols.fireside.fm/socialism-kills-with-lily-tang-williams Sponsored By: We Are Libertarians Shop!: BREAKING: The We Are Libertarians Network now has a store for merch! Proudly display your We Are Libertarians spirit by rocking these awesome WAL-branded face masks, shirts, sweaters, hoodies, posters, coffee cups, magnets, tote bags, hats, and more! Support The Brian Nichols Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The history of the rise of China did not begin decades ago, but millennia. Myths about China persist, but how do we assess what's going on inside the country, and why? Podcaster Jason Szeftel joins us to introduce us to his podcast, China Unraveled, where he gives listeners a long history and introduction to China. Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

Jason Szeftel is an author who hosts the China Unraveled Podcast. On the podcast he covers what is really happening in China and what it means for the world. He uses his background in law and development to help people make sense of what changes in the world mean for their business.Where to find Jason:https://www.jasonszeftel.com/ Twitter: @jasonszeftel China Unraveled Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-unraveled/id1511865654 Check out his upcoming book! https://www.jasonszeftel.com/china-unraveled