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What happens when the rewards for doing something don't show up until way later? Or if it's harder to tell you're making progress on something, like saving money, applying for jobs, buying a house? David and Isabelle are joined by Isabelle's husband, Bobby, who also has ADHD, swapping stories about delaying gratification, shame spirals, and how we ruminate and distract AND hyperfocus for the win.---- The only thing that's reinforced are tasks toward goal completion. What could I do today that would move me toward that goal? The only question: is it moving toward my goal? If so, it's effective (or if not, not effective), rather than good or bad. For example, David venting about his paper to his friend helped him be on task, rather than not being on task and going out to eat at Burger King—it's still about the paper (it's still on task). How effective is it toward the task? More effective than going to Burger King and not talking or thinking about the paper at all. Long term goals are specifically hard for folx with ADHD because of the delay of gratification. The more you wait, the more you feel like you're failing. Neurotypical folx will read that waiting as normal or to be expected. Bobby names things like saving for retirement, saving for a house, paying off debt—the progress is so slow it feels so boring. David relies on his awesome neurotypical partner to save for a house by taking what they would pay for a mortgage every month and saving whatever that was on top of their rent (so if their Lego House rent was $10, and they wanted a $30 mortgage, they saved the extra $20 every month). Isabelle wonders if neurotypical shame spirals go as deep as neurodivergent ones—for example, David's goes to homelessness, and she notices that neurotypical folx notice how close they got the finish (like getting the brick at the bottom of the pool during swimming lessons), and factor that in, whereas for her it's the outcome that matters and she goes straight to everyone she loves is going to abandon her and ditch her. David names that he has a few shame spirals—for work, it's homelessness, for relationships—it's abandonment. This leads to black and white thinking, which is more than just worth mentioning, it's the difference between “not getting a snack” to “failure begets failure begets FAILURE…” And this extreme is dismissed so often, people don't get it. As a therapist you'd never say “it's not a big deal,” you're invalidating those feelings. What we ADHD folx feel, our level of intensity, is REAL—instead of “it shouldn't hurt that much,” it's “that's extremely frustrating.” Bobby is slurping all this data up, and taking the feels, and feeling them…and that's what you do. You acknowledge how intensely you're feeling them. Bobby sits in the role of “Novice EveryDay-er…Every Day Dude” (which is what it says on his nameplate). And not just acknowledging your feels, but acknowledging the intensity of how strongly you feel them. Feel the feeling, know it's more intense, or it might not be felt by other people. And do what you need to do to regulate—-as opposed to let it go. It's like telling someone with ADHD not to look at the ceiling (we all looked at the ceiling). Telling someone to fight something is not effective, it can go on forever in a power struggle. Isabelle describes that she prefers the phrase self-soothe to self-regulate, because it can be a pressure to return to masking and appearing as though you are neurotypical or ‘regular.' David is wondering if self-soothing is the task, actually—you might not be able to soothe or make the injury out of the way, and instead get grounded again. It's not about getting out of your ADHD mindstate, it's about lowering your hyper focus and lowering the pressure to act. David does this intermittent fast now and just got distracted about the food he wants to eat (schwarma)—he's not pretending he's going back to the point and instead is focusing on food and saying “Schwarma.” The group decides they will say “Schwarma” any time this happens, if they can remember, which Bobby reassures them he will. Isabelle then describes that she thinks Bobby circumvents working memory problems by using some of the rules of comedy, like callbacks, and then…she also loses the plot and goes back to telling her story. Isabelle describes fixations on movies or things across many genres and seems to do with what the movie makes her feel. She is reminded of one of her roommates in college who was a lovely person, but would fixate on one or two somewhat depressing emo songs and for Isabelle, she didn't like the emotional state it would generate. So she recognizes that she goes through fasts almost, of media that stirs up feelings because she gets so sucked in, so she avoids fiction and movies and music for a while. Then, it's like a switch flips, and she gets sucked in and rewatches things over and over again. Like the Netflix film “Tall Girl.” Because she is tall. And it hooked her (despite not being the best movie maybe, but she liked it). And she found time, when she has no time, to watch it four times in the span of a week. What is this? David's like: it's the definition of hyperfocus. It's that you fall into it intensely. It's that you do the same thing over and over again, or a genre—like David only watched shows that only made it one season. Isabelle can daydream for five hours straight while driving, she can rewatch things in her head. David is naming that this is not the safest driving technique, but David is wondering if there were any changes in this span that changes your capacity to move around? Were there things that gave you more unstructured time? Were there things you were avoiding or wanting distraction from on an emotional level? When all of those things happen, hyperfocus can kick in for preservation, like you're going to get sucked into the Full Metal Alchemist because you don't want to think about life after graduation. And in another way, rumination can kick in when you don't move around during the day, which turns into a type of thinking at the end of the day, those thoughts can be a way to get out that energy. Everyone is going to kick into hyperfocus for different reasons and it will vary based on types and on the environment that they're in. Isabelle connects very much to preservation idea of hyperfocus, how survival-related it feels and the times she was in a fandom over a particular show or movie that relate to major life transitions, like graduation, or career changes, or life changes. David names that it's probably much easier to remember the relationship she had with those things than the transitions themselves. David names that this is a superpower. It usually happens when you're sitting in helplessness. Are you sitting in your helplessness, or are you sitting in “these amazing actors and actresses are nailing it?” Isabelle insists Bobby will watch it and grow to love it. It can happen when you don't have structure or your routine changes, and it provides structure—the reality is, for David, it's important to go wild if you really are in a state of helplessness—then go to town watching all the shows. But if you're using it to avoid a task, that's a whole other story. Things Isabelle, David, and Bobby have hyper focused on (that are mentioned in the episode):The MatrixNew GirlTall GirlIt's Always Sunny in PhiladelphiaFull Metal AlchemistSchwarmaDAVID'S DEFINITIONS:Black and White Thinking: Believing or acting as if there are only two ways of thinking right or wrong. This includ...
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David describes how when we hyper focus and launch ourselves into something, it can be hard to finish, because the hardest part is behind us. He heard then governor Gavin Newsom speak and he describe how there comes a point in running where you just have to keep kicking, you keep kicking your feet forward. For neurodivergent folx to recognize that we have to sit through the hard thing and just do it—it becomes important to honor just how painful and difficult that is. Self-soothing and grounding are helpful, but watching a show isn't going to help you clean your room, watching the show would be a really good reward from cleaning your room. You need to offers when you've done something terrible, you need to be able to put your feet up and relax, but after you ran the race, not before you race at all. What does your system need to be effective? Are you angry or anxious for a reason, do you need to be stimulated? That's what you need to be stimulated. Knowing that requires metacognition, knowing what you need for each moment. Isabelle describes her own difficulties delaying gratification, with black and white thinking and sequencing, and then the need to seek comfort, and wonders about the stats of folx with ADHD having more substance misuse, higher rates of divorce, accidents, etc. but as David points out, we do do more flips. But what is the warning or worst case scenario if you don't clean your room, but what if the consequences are worse? David jumps into the substance abuse or misuse idea and wonders: if you have a marginalized, underserved, neurodivergent population and is neglected by a system--and they're using substances--and you think there's something wrong with them? For people with ADHD, a lot of people can fall into cannibis, or alcohol, or cocaine. For example, when you pour a depressant like alcohol into your system, your body tries to compensate by boosting your stimulation, because your body is seeking homeostasis. So if you don't drink after drinking after drinking, your brain is released stimulants. Cocaine and cannibis are stimulants—and cannibis, as a dissociative stimulant—so folx with ADHD tend towards substances that are giving them the stimulation they are needing. When you look at people who struggle with delaying gratification, increased pain, more social rejection—wow, drinking can help them numb the pain and then they are doing stimulants when they would be prescribed stimulants to help with their medication condition. David sees this as a humanistic push toward health by people who have been given bad information. Our population is highly at risk because we're in a lot of pain. David wants to highlight the pain we live in. “Unspoken expectations are premeditated resentments” and changing it for neurodivergent folx: “expectations are premeditated resentments.” All of our expectations, because of our black and white thinking, are that things are going to take away the pain, make us feel better, not hurt anymore, not be anxious anymore…when people make a decision that's like “I'm going to bomb this test so I never have to think about it again” we get you, we understand that's pain, you are in a lot of pain. There's self-soothing to feel better to take a test, or bungee jump off a cliff, but when you're in so much pain you look for ways to self-soothe your way through your entire life, we need to look at your expectations and get you the help you need. You are not broken, you are being serviced by the wrong technicians of the world, you are being given leaded gas, you have square tires, we need to get them off—it's not your fault. It's not David's fault that he misread that podcast that he screened, and he needed to be able to challenge it and face it, and lean on his support system. A lot of us have more courage than people understand, because we have a lot of anxiety and fear—if you're not scared, it can't be courage. Isabelle is so grateful for David naming this, and while neither one of them is a substance abuse expert, it is an important reminder to all of us. Isabelle thinks of the quote that sometimes when you think you're the “crazy” one, it's actually a very sane response to a “crazy” world. What is the appropriate response to what you are facing, and nobody told you this was in the water, and you've been drinking it your whole life, and the protestant U.S. work ethic of: “good things happen to you because you prove your worth, you earn it all” logic and it so does not match up with anyone's experience, the “just world” hypothesis does not match up. Because it flips on you, if you did all the good things you missed the suffering, but if you suffer, it's something you must work on it and solve it and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. How much work is loaded on neurodivergent folx. We are not given the accurate operating instructions and we encounter more intensity of pain than people understand. There's a lot of neglect in the world, we neglect things and pretend they're fine. Of the drugs you can use in the U.S.- Caffeine, alcohol, and cannibis—nothing's all bad. But using a substance to escape a feeling doesn't help. Because your brain likes substances, and it will find the feelings to make you use it more often. So use them if you're going to use them, but don't justify it with a feeling. For Isabelle, this can tie back to what is self-soothing and what is avoidance. Sometimes keeping busy keeps you from feeling the feeling. Sometimes the task is not cleaning your room, it's recognizing how much grief you're in, sitting in the break up you just had, or facing the fact your parents are who you wanted them to be, the job you wanted was not as awesome as you thought it would be, it's developing the frustration and distress tolerance for an emotional state that might beg for soothing away. You could always justify soothing it away, but how can you recognize and rise above and have a meta moment—are there feelings I'm running from? What am I used to run from those things? How can I build up the things that would help me tolerate them? David counters: how can I sit in them? We have to accept these things, not approve of them. The moment you stop escaping those feelings, all those feelings will come back. As Isabelle often hears it put, “what you resist, persists.” Now how to transition away from this? We could say “Schwarma!” And anything else. We could cite pickleball. Or we could say: this is complex. You're not alone. You've got a family. An LD/ADHD family. We're here for it! Isabelle thinks about this other therapist who works with trauma and kids and parenting, and how she describes how you can't ever really help your child stop experiencing the pain, but what you can do is be there with them through it. You can do that with something that happened when you weren't there. And the way you do that is by showing up and listening. Saying things like “I believe you.” “I hear you.” “Tell me more.” And just tolerating it, and the thing she said, for most of us, when we're really little, we learn there are certain emotional states that we learn you have to deal with alone, because people are scared, or don't know what to do. The difference is not how you can handle an emotion, it's how you can practice not recognizing you don't have to be alone in that emotion. Whatever you're dealing with, to know you're not alone, is not nothing, it doesn't take the emotion or pain away, but there are people ready and willing and already there who want to listen. And it matters to us to hear from you. The reason we can be so vulnerable is because we're hearing from you and knowing you're listening, too, and that it's helpful to you, it makes us want to bring it. Stats for substance abuse or misuse in Children-Children with ADHD are 2-3 times more likely to abuse substances than their neurotypical counterparts, and as-prescribed ADHD medication use does not increase the risk, it in fact lowers it by 7.3% (Source: Child Mind Institute)For further reading, here's an article from Current Psychiatry Reports and more info from CHADD.orgStats for substance abuse or misuse in adults-Adults with ADHD are more likely to abuse substances than their neurotypical counterparts, at almost a 3:1 ratio, remission rates are slower, and the escalation to severe substance abuse may be connected to more severely untreated ADHD (Source: SAMHSA Advisory article)Dr. Becky Kennedy's websiteDAVID'S DEFINITIONS Black and White Thinking: Believing or acting as if there are only two ways of thinking right or wrong. This includes feeling like you did the thing or failed completely, and can be felt very intensely. Black and white thinking also makes it harder to see middle paths during an argument and makes it harder to back down and be flexible at times.Metacognition: Thinking about thinking. Understanding and awareness of why you do the things you do. When you reach this point with any behavior, you're more than halfway there. Self Soothing: A task in an of itself. Engaging in a physical behavior (such a breathing, jumping, wearing sweatpants, lighting a candle, drinking some water) that is a task in and of itself, that addresses something your nervous system needs to ground or to energize. When thinking about self-soothing, the more you depend on something outside of yourself, the more it can breed dependency and aggression if that thing is taken away or not available. So think about diversifying your strategies, have a break glass in case of emergency one, have a smattering of things that you notice ground you or energize you and see that as a task to do. Think about when is the time to do the task of self-soothing: before you start? After you finish? During a break? Keep in mind that you also need to be uncomfortable and do the hard thing at some point, to experience the ultimate relief of getting that thing off your plate. -----Cover Art by: Sol VázquezTechnical Support by: Bobby Richards—————
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What about a task that doesn't have a sense of doing it well? You do it or you don't do it, like earning money, or getting that job, or buying a house? The only thing that's reinforced are tasks toward goal completion. What could I do today that would move me toward that goal? The only question: is it moving toward my goal? If so, it's effective (or if not, not effective), rather than good or bad. For example, David venting about his paper to his friend helped him be on task, rather than not being on task and going out to eat at Burger King—it's still about the paper (it's still on task). How effective is it toward the task? More effective than going to Burger King and not talking or thinking about the paper at all. Long term goals are specifically hard for folx with ADHD because of the delay of gratification. The more you wait, the more you feel like you're failing. Neurotypical folx will read that waiting as normal or to be expected. Bobby names things like saving for retirement, saving for a house, paying off debt—the progress is so slow it feels so boring. David relies on his awesome neurotypical partner to save for a house by taking what they would pay for a mortgage every month and saving whatever that was on top of their rent (so if their Lego House rent was $10, and they wanted a $30 mortgage, they saved the extra $20 every month). Isabelle wonders if neurotypical shame spirals go as deep as neurodivergent ones—for example, David's goes to homelessness, and she notices that neurotypical folx notice how close they got the finish (like getting the brick at the bottom of the pool during swimming lessons), and factor that in, whereas for her it's the outcome that matters and she goes straight to everyone she loves is going to abandon her and ditch her. David names that he has a few shame spirals—for work, it's homelessness, for relationships—it's abandonment. This leads to black and white thinking, which is more than just worth mentioning, it's the difference between “not getting a snack” to “failure begets failure begets FAILURE…” And this extreme is dismissed so often, people don't get it. As a therapist you'd never say “it's not a big deal,” you're invalidating those feelings. What we ADHD folx feel, our level of intensity, is REAL—instead of “it shouldn't hurt that much,” it's “that's extremely frustrating.” Bobby is slurping all this data up, and taking the feels, and feeling them…and that's what you do. You acknowledge how intensely you're feeling them. Bobby sits in the role of “Novice EveryDay-er…Every Day Dude” (which is what it says on his nameplate). And not just acknowledging your feels, but acknowledging the intensity of how strongly you feel them. Feel the feeling, know it's more intense, or it might not be felt by other people. And do what you need to do to regulate—-as opposed to let it go. It's like telling someone with ADHD not to look at the ceiling (we all looked at the ceiling). Telling someone to fight something is not effective, it can go on forever in a power struggle. Isabelle describes that she prefers the phrase self-soothe to self-regulate, because it can be a pressure to return to masking and appearing as though you are neurotypical or ‘regular.' David is wondering if self-soothing is the task, actually—you might not be able to soothe or make the injury out of the way, and instead get grounded again. It's not about getting out of your ADHD mindstate, it's about lowering your hyper focus and lowering the pressure to act. David does this intermittent fast now and just got distracted about the food he wants to eat (schwarma)—he's not pretending he's going back to the point and instead is focusing on food and saying “Schwarma.” The group decides they will say “Schwarma” any time this happens, if they can remember, which Bobby reassures them he will. Isabelle then describes that she thinks Bobby circumvents working memory problems by using some of the rules of comedy, like callbacks, and then…she also loses the plot and goes back to telling her story. Isabelle describes fixations on movies or things across many genres and seems to do with what the movie makes her feel. She is reminded of one of her roommates in college who was a lovely person, but would fixate on one or two somewhat depressing emo songs and for Isabelle, she didn't like the emotional state it would generate. So she recognizes that she goes through fasts almost, of media that stirs up feelings because she gets so sucked in, so she avoids fiction and movies and music for a while. Then, it's like a switch flips, and she gets sucked in and rewatches things over and over again. Like the Netflix film “Tall Girl.” Because she is tall. And it hooked her (despite not being the best movie maybe, but she liked it). And she found time, when she has no time, to watch it four times in the span of a week. What is this? David's like: it's the definition of hyperfocus. It's that you fall into it intensely. It's that you do the same thing over and over again, or a genre—like David only watched shows that only made it one season. Isabelle can daydream for five hours straight while driving, she can rewatch things in her head. David is naming that this is not the safest driving technique, but David is wondering if there were any changes in this span that changes your capacity to move around? Were there things that gave you more unstructured time? Were there things you were avoiding or wanting distraction from on an emotional level? When all of those things happen, hyperfocus can kick in for preservation, like you're going to get sucked into the Full Metal Alchemist because you don't want to think about life after graduation. And in another way, rumination can kick in when you don't move around during the day, which turns into a type of thinking at the end of the day, those thoughts can be a way to get out that energy. Everyone is going to kick into hyperfocus for different reasons and it will vary based on types and on the environment that they're in. Isabelle connects very much to preservation idea of hyperfocus, how survival-related it feels and the times she was in a fandom over a particular show or movie that relate to major life transitions, like graduation, or career changes, or life changes. David names that it's probably much easier to remember the relationship she had with those things than the transitions themselves. David names that this is a superpower. It usually happens when you're sitting in helplessness. Are you sitting in your helplessness, or are you sitting in “these amazing actors and actresses are nailing it?” Isabelle insists Bobby will watch it and grow to love it. It can happen when you don't have structure or your routine changes, and it provides structure—the reality is, for David, it's important to go wild if you really are in a state of helplessness—then go to town watching all the shows. But if you're using it to avoid a task, that's a whole other story. Things Isabelle, David, and Bobby have hyper focused on (that are mentioned in the episode):The MatrixNew GirlTall GirlIt's Always Sunny in PhiladelphiaFull Metal AlchemistSchwarmaDAVID'S DEFINITIONS:Black and White Thinking: Believing or acting as if there are only two ways of thinking right or wrong. This includes feeling like you did the thing or failed completely, and can be felt very intensely. Black and white thinking also makes it harder to see middle paths during an argument and makes it harder to back down and be flexible at times.Delayed Gratification: Receiving the reward or win, well after the behavior occurs. This is another forebrain skill that is often harder for folx with ADHD. Hyperfocus: Aside from happening in certain task-focused environments, it can kick in when you have unstructured time, or you're trying to avoid certain emotional subjects or needing distraction from an intense emotion.Rumination: Can kick in when you haven't had a chance to move around as much. When facing a big feeling (instead of “let it go”)Feel the feeling. Know it's more intense, or it might not be felt by other people. And do what you need to do to regulate (or self soothe!)-----Cover Art by: Sol VázquezTechnical Support by: Bobby Richards—————
Es gibt verschiedenste Malbücher und Bastelsets und alle versprechen den Eltern eins: Förderung der Kreativität ihrer Kinder. Doch stimmt das wirklich? In dieser Folge ist Sina Schwarma bei Danielle und Katja zu Gast. Sie ist Grafik- und Kommunikationsdesignerin und hat danach noch ein Lehramtsstudium für die Grundschule im Fach Kunst absolviert. Dort übernahm sie eine Kunst-AG und hat in der Zeit interessante Erfahrungen in Bezug auf das Gestaltungsbedürfnis von Kindern gelernt. Was genau? Das erfahrt ihr in der neuen Folge!Artikel von Sina: https://www.gewuenschtestes-wunschkind.de/2020/10/das-gestaltungsbeduerfnis-von-kindern.htmlArtikel über das Loben: https://www.gewuenschtestes-wunschkind.de/2014/04/manipulation-kind-warum-lob-und-loben-kindern-schadet.htmlBuch "Der Punkt": https://amzn.to/3HvmNfGBuch "Wie man sich die Welt erlebt" https://amzn.to/3vpVBwFBuch "Warum Huhn vier Beine hat": https://amzn.to/3HBtM7e Unsere allgemeinen Datenschutzrichtlinien finden Sie unter https://art19.com/privacy. Die Datenschutzrichtlinien für Kalifornien sind unter https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info abrufbar.
In this week's episode, Sean and JT go over recent injury news, highlight feats of strength, proud performances, build some DIY metrics, dive deeper into a few players, and reveal the Dad Bod Player of the Week!
Dieses Intro widme ich meinem Bruder. Zudem gibt es einen wohltemperierten Themensalat. Vom anstehenden Umzug, Kameras in meinem Magen und meinem schwierigen Verhältnis zu JRPGs. Abschließend rede ich noch über meine Liebe zur Monsterjagd. Präpariert euere Podcastempfänger und schallert euch die 64. Folge von Schwarma&Spiele rein.
Nicky V starts the V Show all over the map talking Schwarma, Jack, Maybin, Rummage, brunch, Jamie, texts, and underwear. Fred Cowgill gets the show back on the rails and discusses the Bob Baffert/ Medina Spirit situation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Scrubs – Die Anfänger. Keine andere Serie habe ich so oft gesehen. Keine andere Serie war so wichtig in meinem Leben. In dieser Folge geht es um Herzschmerz, Homophobie, Neid und die ganz großen Gefühle. Macht den OP startklar und injiziert die 63. Folge von Schwarma&Spiele.
Meine Switch musste kurzerhand in die Reparatur. Ich habe die Zeit genutzt und meinen eigene Gaming-PC zusammengebaut. Neben Call of Duty: Warzone, habe ich auch einen Blick auf GTA 5 geworfen und dabei sehr alte Erinnerungen hervorgezaubert. Taschentücher raus und hingehört. Die 52. Folge von Schwarma&Spiele wird eine Achterbahn der Gefühle.
Es ist mal wieder Zeit für gehaltvolles Geplänkel. Aber heute im Kurzformat. Marne ist auf Schustersuche während Karlotta ihre Nachbarn kennen lernen will. Außerdem 7% auf Menstruationsprodukte! SIEBEN! Sofort zuschlagen! Wir verraten euch wo.
Wie war die erste Woche als Medienpraktikant? Wie macht man eine gute Figur auf Pressekonferenzen? Und wie ist eigentlich die Beta von Red Dead Online? Stopft eure Friedenspfeife und spitzt eure Ohren und Pfeile, der Stamm der Schwarma&Spiele ruft die 12. Folge aus.
Just back in town from Beirut, Tully Show fave Jessimae Peluso returns! Check out her "Sharp Tongue" podcast!
In this episode, Ted and Zach dust off the randomizer, plan their funerals, and read four chapters of re:raptured again.
In this episode, Ted and Zach dust off the randomizer, plan their funerals, and read four chapters of re:raptured again.
This is the first in a three-part series on the perfect Mark attempts to make a great Easter dinner. Step one is a leg of lamb schwarma-style. Stay tuned for homemade Pita bread and three incredible sauces to go with this incredible roasted lamb.
Legends of S.H.I.E.L.D.: An Unofficial Marvel Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Fan Podcast
The Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. hosts were curious about rewatching Howard The Duck after seeing the Schwarma scene (sorry Willie) at the end of Guardians Of The Galaxy so they watched it and regale you this week with general Marvel news and their take on Howard. Haley, Lauren and Stargate Pioneer love to hear back from you about your top 5 Marvel character lists and will run down all of your lists in next week. The trio announce Coulson's Badge giveaway winner (Congrats Richard!) and look forward to starting a new S.H.I.E.L.D. shirt giveaway starting next week. Agent Carter Casting http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/8/29/23178/marvels_agent_carter_casts_2_key_roles Chad Michael Murray as Agent Jack Thompson Enver Gjokaj as Agent Daniel Sousa First look at Foggy Nelson and Karen Page in Daredevil http://www.fandompost.com/2014/08/27/daredevil-set-image-shows-foggy-nelson-karen-page-characters/ Joaquin Phoenix “not certain” about Doctor Strange http://www.latino-review.com/news/joaquin-phoenix-hesitant-about-playing-doctor-strange Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers in Avengers 2? http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/28/age-of-ultron-introduces-new-members-of-the-avengers-but-is-captain-marvel/ Robert Downey Jr wants to see a Black Widow movie http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2014/09/03/robert-downey-jr-endorses-a-black-widow-movie/ Make your own Groot costume http://www.nerdist.com/2014/09/make-your-own-groot-costume-for-less-than-50/ Stan Lee's original Guardians of the Galaxy cameo http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55289 Hawkeye’s cut sequence from Cap 2 http://screenrant.com/hawkeye-captain-america-2-role-explained/ Fan-made Loki movie http://www.nerdist.com/2014/09/lokis-story-told-in-epic-fan-made-feature-film/ Marvel's Agents of SHIELD Season 2 Promo http://youtu.be/4AdaGcC9Ltk Join Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. next time as the hosts discuss the Science Of Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D. panel from Dragon Con and look forward to cracking open their Captain America 2 Blu-rays! Contact Info: Please see www.legendsofshield.com for all of our contact information or call our voicemail line at 1-844-THE-BUS1 or 844-843-2871. Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. is a Proud Member Of The Gonna Geek Network (gonnageek.com). Standby for your S.H.I.E.L.D. debriefing---
Join Jordan, Russ, Jim and Ken as we offer our very best commentary track yet for a small independent movie you may not have heard of that just came out on Blu-Ray/DVD this week, Marvel's The Avengers. From S.H.I.E.L.D. to Schwarma let the LOD be your guides through the Marvel Movie Universe's crown jewel (so far).