COFFEETALK XL

SEGMENT 1Kevin opens up this episode by sharing his value of being inclusive of all people, no matter the identity and make-up of a person. He continues to show his support for all communities, including the LGBTQ+ community. However, because he wasn't educated on transgender people, he is begins to talk more on wanting to learn and understand more about this specific community. To shine a spotlight on Pride month, Kevin hopes to open his listener's minds and hearts while they listen to this episode. After being casted in a one act play in NYC and getting to know his fellow costar, Brian Michael, he later finds out years later something he wasn't aware of after running into him at an airport. He continues this story after the break.SEGMENT 2Coming back from the break, Kevin continues with this story by talking about his conversation with Brian, his past co-star. Kevin heard Brian was going to be in another television show and that GLAD was involved in this show as well, which sparks his confusion on why GLAD would be included in this. While Kevin was on his plane ride and unable to see the show Brian is on, the next morning he saw the many messages from celebrities praising his friends' role in the TV show. Eventually, Kevin became more confused as he remembers Brian speaking about his past track records from shot put. However, once Kevin read a headline stating Brian's groundbreaking work into playing a transgender role as a transgender person on “Queen Sugar”, then, Kevin put everything together and understood Brian is a transgender male. So, he reached out to his friend to further discuss this with him and explain his unawareness of his identity. This understanding helped enlighten Kevin on this community and he wanted to share this great story during Pride monthSEGMENT 3Now, we are joined by special guest Eliza VanCourt, author of “A Woman's Guide to Claiming Space”. They originally knew each other while on set of a movie, and now they are here to speak more about her book. After experiencing a difficult brain injury, Eliza was able to understand communication in a deeper way that she wanted to share with the world. But when she found herself answering more questions after her TED talks because females were too afraid to ask them in front of other males, she realized the five main questions she was answering could benefit others if she wrote about this in her book. These five areas of claiming space include claiming space with your physicality and voice, collaborating with others, not displacing yourself or letting others impede on your space, and claiming space intersectionality. Eliza and Kevin discuss the implications of a man not choosing to understand the experiences women go through that they don't experience, which are written about in this book.SEGMENT 4Kevin asks Eliza to share key advice she would give to someone who feels their space is being taken away from someone. Eliza shares that her book is meant to be a guided book, so that her readers can revisit different chapters during various experiences. She believes getting anti-mentors out of your life is one key step you can take to reclaim your space. By identifying an anti-mentor, or someone who takes up your space, it brings you closer to finding a positive mentor in your life that can instead provide support and guidance in your space. They then speak more on the importance of not beating yourself up over past mistakes and working more on what you can do in the present moment with new knowledge and understanding of not taking away space from someone else. By being aware of things that have been handled wrong, it makes it more feasible to not repeat them again in the future. Be sure to buy “A Woman's Guide to Claiming Space” to learn more on claiming space in your own life!

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Kevin Barbaro starts his show off with introducing Kevin Beck, an author who writes about Track and Field and who was Kevin's former roommate and teammate back in college. Run Strong is one of the books Kevin has written within his writing career. They speak about the recent news surrounding Shelby Houlihan and the ban that followed her positive drug test. The substances found in Shelby's system could have come from things like ingested meat, which further questions the legitimacy of the test. Kevin Beck then discusses the media and press and the narratives that have come out following this suspension.SEGMENT 2Following the break, they continued their Track and Field discussion on Shelby Houlihan. Kevin talks about his observation on the tiny “fishbowl” of Track and Field in the sports world, and how this impacts the media coverage on this sport. Kevin Beck is able to give his personal perspective on sports writing on T/F and the lack of coverage on this specific sport. Sometimes he sees how journalists would rather be the “big fish” in this sport rather than give more focus on the quality of the written or verbal media being produced from it. Kevin shares his personal experience with accidentally taking steroids because the substance he bought was over the counter and he was not drug tested. Today, Kevin is still surrounded by people and actors who are taking steroids. And he shares the many reasons as to why Shelby might be telling the truth, as the process it takes to obtain the drug without others knowing is more complex than others would think it would be.SEGMENT 3Kevin welcomes his second guest onto his show, Willie Randolph. After his career of coaching, Willie then wrote his first book, Faith in the Eye of the Storm. Willie shares his personal experience on when Hurricane Karina hit and there was loss and grief found everywhere. As a head coach, Willie stepped up and helped multiple families in this tragic crisis. From the values he was raised on, he continued to stay kind and faithful despite the burdens he had brought on to him. By progressing into multiple roles including the NCAA representative to a cook, his main focus was making sure his players would be taken care of and given comfort during this difficult and uncertain time.SEGMENT 4Following the break, Kevin and Willie continue to speak more about Willie's book and the experiences that sparked him to write this book. Willie gives special thanks to his mother and grandmother, two very strong women he had in his life during his youth, for being his main source of faith. Watching his mother go through many difficult things, including illness, showed him the values of a true character. After Katrina hit, Willie noticed more people having a feeble foundation in faith or even an absence of faith. Kevin jumps in to talk about certain questions that come up when things are going bad and your faith is being questioned. However, both Kevin and Willie agree that still, we are all human and it is inevitable to be imperfect. Willie adds that it's important to keep “moving in your purpose” and find ways to make an impact in this world despite the difficult experiences that may occur.

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Kevin starts the show by talking about the concert industry. In past episodes he has talked about the impact this pandemic has had on independent promoters such as himself. Today Kevin shares his chaotic experience when managing a Jamey Johnson concert. Not everyone has been happy with the change in date and opening acts. This has led to some interesting experiences for Kevin.SEGMENT 2Recently, Kevin got a callback! He shares some of his methods to be memorable and stand out during a callback. Many actors make the mistake of trying too hard to stand out. If you have gotten the audition they already like you so be yourself. Kevin introduces his guest Jodey Cook, renowned BigFoot expert. Kevin shares his experience in the Shawnee State Forest with the unknown.SEGMENT 3While hunting in the forest, Kevin heard the sound of something walking. Initially he believed it was an animal but he only heard two feet. He quickly found that it was not a hunter. Later while watching people hunting cryptids on television, they played an all too familiar cry. Joedy tells the story of someone's experience with a gorilla-like creature in the 1940s. He has been studying cryptozoology for over thirty years and offers some insight into the legends we've been told.SEGMENT 4Joedy has always been interested in the subject of cryptozoology since he was a kid. He shares his experience with a cryptid while serving in the Army. In Michigan while on the road with his crew, their car hit a creature and Jodey got a very good view of it. He remembers vividly what the creature looks like. The base he was on had many BigFoot sightings. They talk about some of the videos captured of BigFoot and their legitimacy.TRANSCRIPT00:00:38.910 --> 00:00:43.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Good afternoon, everybody and welcome back to coffee talk XL i'm Kevin barbro.00:00:43.290 --> 00:00:55.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you're watching on facebook.com slash talk radio nyc all one word or you listening on talk radio dot nyc and welcome back to fifth.00:00:55.740 --> 00:01:07.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Week episode four or five you want to call it, that of coffee talk I got a great show, I want to try and get through a whole bunch of stuff because man i've got a story for you okay.00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:14.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anyone that knows me knows i'm a storyteller but man, but the thing about it is this is a true story.00:01:15.450 --> 00:01:18.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This is something that genuinely happened to me and.00:01:18.750 --> 00:01:24.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And and i'm going to get to it in a minute, but a couple of things i'm going to talk about today i'm going to be talking about concert production.00:01:25.290 --> 00:01:39.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We just had a concert at the oil Palace Jamie Johnson Ben haggard and Sunday and said this past weekend i'm going to talk a little bit about all the moving parts that that it takes to put on a.00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:57.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: full scale concert, which is a lot of moving parts you're not going to make everybody happy and i'm going to talk about that i'm also going to talk about had some callbacks this week i'm actually I recall back today and i'm going to be giving a little bit of advice on the whole callback.00:01:59.220 --> 00:02:15.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Situation in the acting world, and I mean it kind of translates to regular life to if you if you're if you're if you're trying to apply for a job and you got a second interview or whatever, and I mean that's basically what a call back is your one of the finalists and.00:02:16.590 --> 00:02:29.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, one more shot or one or two more shots and sealing the deal so that's what a callback is we'll be talking about that in a minute and and but the story i'm going to tell you.00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:40.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On tonight's episode is something that happened to me 10 years ago actually 11 years ago now it's 2010 I was hunting.00:02:41.010 --> 00:02:48.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In southeastern Ohio and I had an experience I had I had an encounter with something that.00:02:49.650 --> 00:02:59.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is unexplained and that it's never happened to me before and I actually have one of the world's leading experts and researchers.00:02:59.850 --> 00:03:11.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On sasquatch and bigfoot no exaggeration on the show tonight he's going to be joining me at about 820 years his name is Jody cook and he's also an author former military.00:03:12.600 --> 00:03:23.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Incredibly intriguing and whether you believe in bigfoot whether you believe in sasquatch or dog man or any of the other things that if you think that they're fable or whatever.00:03:25.410 --> 00:03:26.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Something is out there.00:03:27.870 --> 00:03:44.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Something and something that's unexplained and maybe it's not a bigfoot but i'm telling you there's something I ran into this whatever it is, and i'm going to tell that story in just a little while but getting back to the whole concert production situation so.00:03:45.480 --> 00:03:46.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: here's the deal with concerts man.00:03:47.910 --> 00:03:58.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And here's the deal with the concert industry in general, we took a massive hit I talked about this a couple weeks ago, on one of the other episodes about how.00:04:00.060 --> 00:04:06.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As promoters i'm promoter okay and independent promoter so I don't own my own venue.00:04:07.380 --> 00:04:15.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Although i'm partners with my buddy Bobby man's L and oil palace, and the together we handle all of their live events.00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:24.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And their live concerts and whatnot for everything from booking to advertising to contract negotiation to advancing the show which means.00:04:25.170 --> 00:04:38.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When you advance a show that that's the process as you're leading up to the show where you make sure that all of the as much as you can you have all the moving parts ready to go and everyone is on the same page.00:04:38.970 --> 00:04:52.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then, on top of that man, we had dude he was he was an unintentional fall out of the fandom I mean not that any fallout was intentional, but one big thing that happened a lot of the.00:04:53.490 --> 00:05:02.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: music industry so aspects of the music industry beyond the artists and the agencies.00:05:02.820 --> 00:05:19.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: took a major hit if you can hear my cats in the background, they are ridiculous, I mean look these Dudes sleep 22 hours a day, and I can guarantee you the one hour that they're awake is during coffee talk, or if i'm doing an audition I guarantee they're awake but.00:05:20.640 --> 00:05:22.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway um.00:05:23.820 --> 00:05:28.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What one thing that happened was we had an exclusive deal.00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:38.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At the oil palace, with a company called seed advisors seed advisor was a ticketing company with very similar if anybody's ever been to a concert you've tried to buy your tickets from.00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:49.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: ticketmaster or event bright or or any number of ticket fly Stub hub whatever while stuff up is, it is a third party site, but.00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:58.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The seat advisor was what a venue would would have a contract with seat advisor and all the ticket sales would go through it.00:05:59.220 --> 00:06:22.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, back in January we get an email from seed advisor saying as of December 31 we're no longer going to exist we're going out of business, the pandemic has destroyed us we're out and when they say out they didn't mean just like you know reorganizing they didn't mean that you know.00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:38.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I can't put it any other way than saying they were out to the point where on January 1 even their website didn't exist anymore well here's The problem we had several shows that we already had on sale.00:06:39.390 --> 00:06:50.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On senior advisor so we had to go and find a new ticketing company negotiate all of those contracts and the one that we that we found video which these guys are great Bebo tickets.00:06:51.720 --> 00:07:02.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The only problem was seat advisor was so antiquated that there was no way to automatically upload all of the tickets that had already been sold.00:07:03.390 --> 00:07:11.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: into the new system, well, we had toby MAC which is Christian show already on sale 1800 tickets or more.00:07:11.910 --> 00:07:31.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We had Jamie this concert Jamie Johnson, because it was on sale back in March of 2020 because got rescheduled so yeah at that point 800 and something tickets and we had for king and country, which is an another Christian show that we had already sold like 3000 tickets to.00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:41.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All of these shows are already on sale on CD advisor i've got a transfer every single ticket, so that these people get the same exact seat.00:07:41.970 --> 00:07:59.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That they already purchased into video tickets, and the only way to do it was I had to manually go through and enter all 5000 6000 tickets one, at a time it took me four months, no joke.00:07:59.790 --> 00:08:09.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: to pull this off Well then, I gotta sweat it out, because now it's time for the show, and if there's a mistake.00:08:10.170 --> 00:08:17.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: there's no way of me, knowing about the mistake until the concert actually shows up right, so, in any event.00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:31.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This show this weekend was supposed it actually went you know so like what I was worried, last week I talked last week we had maybe a little bit of an issue that was coming up about the merchandise, one of the artists.00:08:31.830 --> 00:08:43.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and thankfully that ate that artists agency rectify the situation because we already we did have a contract is that they said, we were going to get a certain percentage of the merchandise, they sold.00:08:44.310 --> 00:08:53.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they were going to keep the the obviously way more than the majority of it, but we still were supposed to get a cut of it and they actually came through and there were no issues.00:08:53.490 --> 00:09:04.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The other thing you got to worry about because you've got 100 employees or so that are coming in, and these aren't salaried employees, these are people that you've hired become in or tenders usher's ticket takers.00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:12.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Security everything sound and lights or something like I had to come, all the way from Illinois.00:09:13.500 --> 00:09:24.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And Ben haggard who's who is merle haggard son incredibly talented Well he flew in so he didn't have any of his own what we call back line so back line.00:09:25.260 --> 00:09:32.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the concert world is the instruments that they're going to need in order to pull this off and he needed a very specific.00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:41.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: style of instrument and brands of inner instruments for us to get and so that was like another thing that went smooth Thank God.00:09:42.150 --> 00:09:57.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All the all of our Labor showed up, thank God, because today's day and age anybody that owns a business knows that getting people to work right now is incredibly difficult so everyone showed up literally the entire nights going off without a hitch until.00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:11.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I till this one cat comes up to the box office, so our show this past week was supposed to be back in March of 2020 and it was going to be jamey Johnson.00:10:12.750 --> 00:10:31.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Wade bowen and Sunday and said no Sunday and said one the voice in 2016 jimmie johnson's like 11 time grammy winner and incredible but yeah now anything come out about 10 years but, in any event, and we bones really don't well wait bowens agency booked him.00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:46.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In during the time that we were waiting for the reschedule they booked them him into a venue that was too close to our so it was within our radius clause so we had to get him swapped out with the Agency for another artist.00:10:47.490 --> 00:10:59.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That happened months ago months ago this cat comes up to the to the window and he's upset because he said that he drove all the way from little rock to see Wade bowen.00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:11.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Now we bonus just an opening act he's just support, and when you purchase your ticket and listen if you go to concerts you know this, when you when you go to purchase your ticket.00:11:11.520 --> 00:11:23.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It always says lineup date and time subject to change, particularly now during the pandemic the lineup meaning the artists now if the main act.00:11:23.910 --> 00:11:30.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is swapped out people will get their money back there'll be a refund because, obviously, that is the main act that's why people are going.00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:41.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If support get swapped out, then you don't get refunds because it's subject to change this guy comes up he is he just won't listen to reason.00:11:42.360 --> 00:12:00.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And here's the thing about the concert industry any industry any service industry Okay, you are not going to make everybody happy plain and simple, you might as well, not even worry about it, because at the end of the day this guy's in a full on argument.00:12:01.350 --> 00:12:18.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and obviously i'm trying to be diplomatic about this thing, but he won't stop this cat would stop and he's calling me it in a hole, and all this, I mean this is full on argument I even gave him his money back take your money man, we don't need your money.00:12:19.620 --> 00:12:30.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: just go on get out of here I mean it, I mean it if you're not going to listen to reason because he was trying to say that we purposely misled him to believing that weight bone.00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:41.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude I don't even know where you would have seen an advertisement for Wade bowen because he hasn't been advertised for over four months so anyway, that was my drama right.00:12:43.680 --> 00:12:47.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, but other than that payment it went great.00:12:48.900 --> 00:12:57.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Everything from the parking lot to to the concert production and we made some money which Hello always good.00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:12.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But the great thing is that the concert concert industry is coming back I got some shows planned for this summer we are putting on a journey tribute into cab so I get to see my boys from northern Illinois and.00:13:13.980 --> 00:13:23.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: into cab Illinois in August beginning August we've got resurrection journey, and let me tell you something man and I don't know if I can share what I can learn how to share stuff on here.00:13:24.690 --> 00:13:30.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This dude sounds more like Steve Perry then Steve Perry sounds like Steve Perry.00:13:30.900 --> 00:13:44.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So uh that's a reschedule from like a year and a half ago and that's going to be in the cab and I just got to note that Illinois is now going to release all capacity.00:13:44.910 --> 00:13:53.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: restrictions for concerts and large gatherings on June 11, which is a huge weight off my shoulder because otherwise.00:13:54.270 --> 00:14:00.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At the at the current rate, I was going to be staring down a loss, but now they're going to open it up i'm not going to be staring down a loss.00:14:01.110 --> 00:14:11.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And Daddy can get a new pair of shoes we're going to be back i'm going to talk about my callback and some quick advice and then we're going to go on to my story and have my guest joey.00:14:11.610 --> 00:14:18.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Jody cook here in just a few minutes i'm Kevin barbro you're listening to coffee talk so on talk radio dot nyc.00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:56.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back to coffee talk XL i'm given Barbara you're listening on talk radio dot nyc or a watching us on facebook@facebook.com slash talk radio nyc.00:16:57.210 --> 00:17:05.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Also quickly you can follow me on Twitter at at barbro acting or you can follow me on instagram at Kevin Barbara relaxing and.00:17:06.300 --> 00:17:16.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Great following here so far in the first five weeks you're bringing back coffee talk, I mean we're we're well into the thousands now of viewers listeners and i'm really.00:17:17.580 --> 00:17:25.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just so pleased that that everybody's joining me and from all walks of life, getting back to the callback situation so had a call back today.00:17:26.280 --> 00:17:27.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For a.00:17:29.010 --> 00:17:46.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: TV a national TV commercial for a major brand that manufacturers power tools and now this is right up my alley this is this is kind of like my sweet spot when it comes to national TV commercials I mean i've been in.00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:57.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't even know I mean I think i've probably been in two dozen national TV commercials and then, of course, on way way into the hundred 150 commercials total and.00:17:58.290 --> 00:18:12.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A big part of that is the whole callback process, and now the callback process is really changed because of the pandemic and I think it's changed for good, whereas now everything is done by zoom and.00:18:13.710 --> 00:18:25.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think I actually think it's advantageous to do by soon, because that way you're in your home you're comfortable when back in the back in the old days it's it's, so to speak.00:18:26.550 --> 00:18:38.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When you did a call back you had to go back into the city and it would be just in some room and some high rise in midtown or or in hell's kitchen somewhere and.00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:49.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know you're rushing around and you gotta deal with subways and taxis newburgh, and all this, so this way you're just in your home okay now I had so anyway, my callback.00:18:49.740 --> 00:19:03.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I got kicked out, so I ended up getting only three hours after the call back I I hear from my agent and i'm on i'm on hold for the for the shoot on what we call first refusal so.00:19:04.110 --> 00:19:16.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It doesn't mean it's a booking yet what it does mean is they've narrowed it down just one or two people and they'll make the final decision, but they want to make sure that everybody's available for the ship dates and for the.00:19:17.580 --> 00:19:23.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For the fitting and all the standard stuff is going to be about 40 affair next week, if.00:19:23.550 --> 00:19:39.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If I end up getting called name for it, but in any event, I think it's really important, so people ask me all the time, about how i'm able to book so many gigs and and is there anything special that I do or any kind of special techniques or whatever.00:19:40.650 --> 00:19:56.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One thing I will tell you, because I don't have all the answers i'm gonna be real with you, I mean I know my answers I know what i'm comfortable with, but I can tell you something's not to do because i've been in callbacks with other people, where it was.00:19:57.840 --> 00:19:59.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Where was it a situation.00:20:00.600 --> 00:20:01.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: whoops i'm just.00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:10.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Looking at my screen here whoops all right here we go um so.00:20:14.010 --> 00:20:16.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay now i'm back so anyway.00:20:18.360 --> 00:20:33.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What worked for me is that I was saying, I was on a call back recently and there were other people on the call back so I was actually a call back where I was going to be acting something out with another person, while the director was there online with us okay.00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:38.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: here's what not to do okay this guy.00:20:39.300 --> 00:20:40.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We they pull our screens up.00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:43.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: he's at work.00:20:44.340 --> 00:20:49.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And wherever he worked he had to wear a tuxedo and.00:20:50.340 --> 00:20:57.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was obvious he was like in he was just using his iPhone and he was in a like a.00:20:58.710 --> 00:21:14.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Storage room or something, and when you go to callbacks even back in the day there's no telling when you're getting in the callback maybe for 107 it may be 207 before you get in there that's just the way it is that's how long they take however long it takes that's how long it takes.00:21:16.620 --> 00:21:31.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So this guy gets on and he's like I really gotta hurry, I really gotta hurry and of course i'm just playing a cool and the director is like okay you guys are going to do this, and this and then all of a sudden this dude goes i'm sorry I gotta go.00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:42.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And he just bounces out of the callback now, this was supposed to be a dialogue between him and I So for me at that point, all I could do.00:21:43.170 --> 00:21:50.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: is to do the best that I can, and now i'm suddenly what was going to be a dialogue ends up being essentially me just acting out.00:21:51.000 --> 00:22:08.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: almost like a monologue but I was ready for it and life is good and I ended up getting offered the gig this was the gig that I turned down because I didn't want to I didn't want to shave To be honest, because it just wasn't enough money for me to shave but, in any event, regardless.00:22:09.810 --> 00:22:17.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: don't do that okay I don't know all the answers on what to do well, what I can tell you is when they tell you when the callback is.00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:25.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You if you know that you've got to work, you know that you've got something else you got to do you need to just go ahead and declined it.00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:38.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because the reality is you're not going to get it if you're just holding up your iPhone in your car or in some storage room and and trying to act this thing out it's just not going to happen for you and so.00:22:39.510 --> 00:22:53.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Another thing that I think is really important, in the whole callback world Oh, am I, my buddy Jody cook is going to be coming on here on just a few minutes and i'm going to start my story and but one of the biggest things that I think that.00:22:53.850 --> 00:23:03.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I do for me that works is making sure that I wear the same outfit that I did during the audition when I come back for the callback.00:23:03.810 --> 00:23:11.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the reason being is because you want to be as familiar as possible, you want to walk in or you want to go into this.00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:21.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This call back with them, recognizing you and triggering that memory that memory that they decided that you were good enough to be to go on a call back.00:23:22.590 --> 00:23:31.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's one thing I think is really important The other thing that I think is is really important is making sure that you know how to use zoom okay.00:23:32.580 --> 00:23:43.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Before you can't be trying to figure this out, while you're in this call back because that's happened before, to where i've been in there with another person in the room and i'm looking at this dude's ear for like 15 minutes.00:23:44.310 --> 00:23:50.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then the other thing and i'm going to get to my story because i'm really excited about the rest of the show here i'm.00:23:51.570 --> 00:24:04.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: always make sure that you are in a place that has the same type of scenario for your audition and the reality is always keep this is this is, this is what helps me in the callbacks, is why I end up booking so many gigs.00:24:05.460 --> 00:24:14.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is because i'm completely comfortable I, I know that the reason why they they picked me was because they already thought that I was good enough.00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:21.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To be the person for that for that gig I don't need to do anything extraordinary.00:24:21.510 --> 00:24:29.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that the big mistake that a lot of actors make when they come back to the callback is that they suddenly feel as though they've got to do something extraordinary.00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:39.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: so that they can be the one that they choose, but the reality is you don't have to do anything extraordinary you just have to be what it was that they were attracted.00:24:40.020 --> 00:24:49.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To you, by in the first place and that's going to be enough so that's just my a few callback tips here in the acting world there's a lot of actors and.00:24:50.640 --> 00:25:03.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That join me here for coffee talk every week and and obviously a big part of my life but getting to another part of my life Okay, this is why this is why i've got jodi.00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:25.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: jodi I think that you might be muted, so you may want to unmute yourself because everybody's muted when they come in and now Jody cook is, as I mentioned a little bit earlier is one of the world's foremost researchers authors experts in the world of some of the things that that are.00:25:26.910 --> 00:25:39.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: unknown, so the the bigfoot the sasquatch the dog man, all of these things, the grass man, which is exactly which is actually the story that i'm going to tell my experience and.00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:43.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I want to welcome Jody how you doing buddy.00:25:44.460 --> 00:25:45.390 Joedy Cook: pretty good can you hear me.00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:46.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I can hear you.00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:47.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: loud and clear, maybe.00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're good yeah man, thank you for coming on the show.00:25:50.580 --> 00:25:51.300 Joedy Cook: appreciate it.00:25:51.870 --> 00:26:07.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah man so here's my story okay i'm going to try to be as brief as I can but I gotta lay the land out for people so here's what happened to me, I would i'm a hunter okay and back in 2010.00:26:08.340 --> 00:26:15.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I in in Ohio they have in this where I go deer hunting in Ohio every year and in Ohio they have.00:26:17.070 --> 00:26:32.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Usually most years they have what's called early muzzleloader season so early muzzleloader season, you can you can go and hunt for two or three days it's really refined so it's only in state forest so it's only on public land well, you can hold on your own private land but.00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:41.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Public land, do you know, the only places on public land or there are two state force, one of which is the shawnee state forest okay.00:26:42.300 --> 00:26:42.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So.00:26:44.430 --> 00:26:51.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I decided i'm going to go the show me state worse and i'm going to go muzzleloader and I have an old fashioned cast iron.00:26:53.310 --> 00:27:03.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: muzzle loader that is a black powder muzzle loader where you you load it through the end with the black powder and then you put the 50 caliber slug in and you use a ramrod and you.00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:14.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: saw muzzle loader for those who don't hunt it's one shot you got one shot, then you got to go through the entire process to reload this thing okay it's like a musket essentially back in the day.00:27:15.090 --> 00:27:25.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I go I scope out online on Google maps shawnee state forest I decide where i'm going to go i've never hunted there i've never been there.00:27:26.040 --> 00:27:43.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I go down the night before opens and i'm i'm driving around now, these are logging roads through just desolate forest okay swamp lands all all types of terrain whatnot I find this little parking area where I can.00:27:45.210 --> 00:27:53.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Park, the next day, and there was a trail that lead in and the tree what I did was I followed the trail in for about 300 meters, this is during the daylight.00:27:54.450 --> 00:28:07.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there's a huge oak tree, and you can see where this path splits and there's a hill and it's a perfect scenario I can see some runs so I see some trails where deer event, I can see some scrapes.00:28:07.710 --> 00:28:18.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I can see signs that there are deer in the area and so i'm okay well this where i'm going to come back the next morning, so I get up at five o'clock in the morning and we're gonna have to go to a commercial break here and i'll continue but.00:28:19.860 --> 00:28:26.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We I get up at five o'clock in the morning and I had to this spot now when I get there five o'clock in the morning.00:28:26.850 --> 00:28:34.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In Ohio you can't hunt until 30 minutes before the sun comes up so whatever the weather.00:28:35.250 --> 00:28:42.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: says the official sunrises 30 minutes before that you're not even allowed to load your gun until 30 minutes before.00:28:42.810 --> 00:28:53.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I get there it's pitch black not just black because five o'clock in morning, but there was no ambient light there's no farms there's no streetlights.00:28:53.670 --> 00:29:02.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was a low cloud cover because it was blotting out the moon, even so, I couldn't see more than like two feet in front of my face pitch black.00:29:03.450 --> 00:29:06.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, before I go in the woods i'm going to go to commercial break here real quick and come back.00:29:06.870 --> 00:29:12.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Before I go in the woods, I decided i'm going to do something that's it's not legal, but I was like effort man i'm doing it.00:29:13.260 --> 00:29:29.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I loaded my my muzzle loader at the Van before I went into the woods and i'm going to continue the story in just a minute we'll be back here on coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc and facebook.com slash talk radio nyc Thank you so much.00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:33.630 And my.00:29:35.550 --> 00:29:36.720 Education in.00:32:12.390 --> 00:32:17.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back to coffee talk XL i'm Kevin barbero and you're listening on talk radio dot.00:32:17.250 --> 00:32:34.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: nyc and i'm here with my special guest Jody cook who's one of the top experts researchers authors in the world on matters such as bigfoot sasquatch etc so getting my story I I load my muzzle loader.00:32:34.590 --> 00:32:44.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I head into the woods now I can't see anything I can't see squat i'm about 300 meters in I find the oak tree that I decided, I was going to sit at.00:32:44.760 --> 00:33:06.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I got a little heated pad to sit down and, generally speaking, in the world of hunting that's naptime OK, so now, before I before I settle in and basically fall asleep I put up a rag of dear Esther so i've already so in the process of getting ready to hunt i've already.00:33:07.590 --> 00:33:18.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: sprayed myself with an agent that removes all human smell, so that you have a better chance of not being detected by the animals because they their sense of smell crazy right.00:33:18.780 --> 00:33:27.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But you use this neutralized her, and you can you can eliminate all the smell the director, I put about 30 meters in front of me down the trail, where I knew in the.00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:39.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Once the sun comes up i'd be able to see it and that attracts the male dear to it because it's it's basically female Esther so anyway, but the ester up I sit down.00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:43.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I wake up, because I hear something.00:33:44.310 --> 00:33:49.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay now in the middle of the night in the middle of the woods and there's no ambient noise.00:33:49.950 --> 00:34:01.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You really can't tell how far away, anything is you can't really tell even how big something is, generally speaking, sometimes you'll hear a squirrel and you'll think it's a deer and it's just a squirrel right so.00:34:02.280 --> 00:34:12.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's now six o'clock now the sun's not going to come up for another half an hour yet okay and i'm awakened because i've got this noise of this thing that's walking towards me.00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:24.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's going slow and I can I can hear it taking one step at a time and i'm trying to run through my head first i'm thinking great it's a direct you know wait for the sun, to come up.00:34:26.220 --> 00:34:36.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But then the longer it was there, and the more was walking it sounded to me like it was walking on two feet okay.00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:45.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: um I know what a deer sounds like when they walk as you'll hear all four feet when they run you hear or two at a time, but when they walk you'll hear all four.00:34:45.720 --> 00:34:52.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So this sounds like it's only it's got two feet right so then i'm thinking, maybe it's another hunter.00:34:52.980 --> 00:35:01.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you know he just doesn't know that up here, but I don't want to do anything or say anything i'm just sitting here in the pitch black and this thing is starting to get closer and closer to me.00:35:01.830 --> 00:35:24.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I can tell that it's now in my head only about 30 meters away from me it's at the dear Esther right okay and it's and I can tell that that's approximately where it is so I make the decision that i'm going to make a whistling sound now if you're a hunter you know, and you hear somebody.00:35:26.430 --> 00:35:34.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know that's not a real birds obviously you know but you're not going to necessarily scare off the deer if you do that, but it would alert.00:35:35.370 --> 00:35:44.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Somebody that you know there's another hunter here, because you can tell that that's somebody listening right, so I make the decision, and this is where shit got crazy okay.00:35:46.020 --> 00:35:48.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I mean the decision to whistle I go.00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the walking stopped and there was nothing.00:35:54.990 --> 00:35:56.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then, all of a sudden.00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:12.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I hear this thing, whatever it is going back and forth back and forth back and forth, and then all of a sudden it stops and when it stops it lets out this how.00:36:13.560 --> 00:36:27.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That I have at that point i'd never heard in my life, and this is something that I mean my heart was racing i've never heard this before okay i've heard every time i've heard wolves i've heard coyotes everything okay.00:36:28.950 --> 00:36:34.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It lets out this House and i'm going to play an audio of what it is in a second here.00:36:36.330 --> 00:36:42.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm terrified it at this point and i'm not afraid of anything but i've been scared and i've been terrified this point i'm thinking.00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:50.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: About ready to shoot this thing, whatever it is, because this is not a human, this is something else, this is something I don't even know what this is.00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:57.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And if I miss it i'm going to turn this thing around and i'm just going to start swinging like a baseball BAT so anyway it lets out this House.00:36:58.740 --> 00:37:14.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Then it runs up this hill that I know that's there and it stops at the top of the Hill and it let's help the same how again and runs off dude I don't do anything until the sun comes up my heart can't stop beating right so.00:37:15.930 --> 00:37:23.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I look and there's no trail there's no tracks or anything but you can see where this thing had scraped up the ground and whatnot and ran off, you know.00:37:23.790 --> 00:37:35.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway fast forward I I leave the woods I generally forget about me was scary as hell, but I generally forget about it, then i'm watching TV a couple months later.00:37:35.910 --> 00:37:46.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's and it's and it's the bigfoot hunter TV show on discovery or 80 or something and i'm going to try to share this right now on my screen.00:37:47.670 --> 00:38:09.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: These hundreds were there and they had what they thought was a recording of of the grass man in Ohio i'm going to get God to talk about it here in a second, and this is what it said this, this is what I heard only I heard it from 30 maybe maybe 20 meters away from me.00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And let me see if I can do this.00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:14.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm hoping.00:38:16.020 --> 00:38:17.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This was the sound.00:38:32.490 --> 00:38:46.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They played this sound on that show that I was watching Okay, and immediately my heart started racing because that was exactly.00:38:49.140 --> 00:38:58.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm back that was exactly what I heard and I heard that so much louder and so much closer.00:39:00.120 --> 00:39:07.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't know what it was man, but i'm here to ask you what kind of evidence, do we have God.00:39:08.910 --> 00:39:22.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because this is this was not any animal i've ever heard before in my entire life and it sounded exactly like that i'm obviously you're familiar with that sound and tell me, lead us into this baby bring us in bro.00:39:23.700 --> 00:39:43.350 Joedy Cook: Well, the thing about Ohio Ohio has been having sightings going all the way back until the early 1800s there was a author back in the 1800s by the name of William vanderbilt and William vanderbilt wrote all kinds of books in early 1800s going into the 1900s.00:39:45.180 --> 00:39:58.380 Joedy Cook: He wrote this book in 1877 and it got published I believe in the early 1900s and I was called a buckeye boy good it was bad him growing up in Ohio.00:39:59.130 --> 00:40:10.770 Joedy Cook: And there's a chapter in there called in the woods and he described things in Ohio that's no longer here, like the black panther the red flying squirrel.00:40:11.850 --> 00:40:12.840 Joedy Cook: couple other.00:40:14.100 --> 00:40:17.310 Joedy Cook: Little critters but he talked about this creature.00:40:18.330 --> 00:40:27.330 Joedy Cook: That would harass people on the road to use it now you're a small town up by Columbus and there was a road from Cincinnati.00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:40.500 Joedy Cook: which was, which I think it's old vine street to go up to you to go and this thing would harass people on the road, so he talks about now this takes place in the 1940s or 1840s.00:40:41.130 --> 00:40:50.610 Joedy Cook: Okay, so he describes this thing as something between a gorilla and sinbad old man of the mountain and they called it to bow just.00:40:52.830 --> 00:40:56.940 Joedy Cook: Which is really interesting best the name okay so.00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:11.460 Joedy Cook: Through my 30 years of research in on cryptozoology mostly bigfoot involved in that I wanted to find out more about this this name, so I end up going up to akron.00:41:12.270 --> 00:41:21.570 Joedy Cook: Where they hit we're having a lot of sightings up in an area called canal fulton and we're talking to the different people up in this area and they're coming up name called grasping.00:41:23.460 --> 00:41:25.710 Joedy Cook: Okay, and I never heard that name before.00:41:27.210 --> 00:41:38.640 Joedy Cook: ever so i'm talking to these people and doing my research so i'm wondering, you know, is there a connection between adjustment in grass man, and so what I found out through.00:41:40.230 --> 00:42:00.270 Joedy Cook: Long long research Ohio when people were start immigrants were coming in here we're going to Ohio the ones that were coming Ohio either were German, English or done Okay, now the Dutch came from South Africa because it colonized Africa, so when they came here.00:42:01.350 --> 00:42:09.690 Joedy Cook: They were seeing something here that they were seeing in South Africa, in an area called giant Castle pass, which is a.00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:20.610 Joedy Cook: Large giant very giant like a bigfoot if there's actual cave paintings of these things in this area dying Castle pass well.00:42:21.270 --> 00:42:29.070 Joedy Cook: adjustment was the name that came from South Africa these creatures that they were seeing so they were carrying on the name so throughout.00:42:29.580 --> 00:42:39.000 Joedy Cook: time when families you're growing and you're going from generation to generation and you're starting to speak English a little bit better and you're not speaking their native tongue.00:42:40.110 --> 00:42:44.010 Joedy Cook: Then things change from both JASMINE to grass man.00:42:45.180 --> 00:42:48.840 Joedy Cook: So that's how the connection to came came there to very.00:42:50.010 --> 00:42:50.340 Joedy Cook: yeah.00:42:50.370 --> 00:43:04.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: No that's incredibly interesting and Am I right in this i've heard that there are more sightings of bigfoot grass man in Ohio than almost anywhere else, and at least in the United States.00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:07.680 Joedy Cook: is now actually Ohio is.00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:10.950 Joedy Cook: bouncing between three and four.00:43:11.430 --> 00:43:14.340 Joedy Cook: Okay okay when it when it comes to sightings.00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:28.740 Joedy Cook: Now it varies, to be honest with you, through seasons, but as a whole or house basically been right around three sometimes it's dumps before it is a bone back to number three.00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:32.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When it comes in, is that in the world, or is that in the world, or just in Ohio.00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:34.950 Joedy Cook: Just just in the United States as a whole.00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:48.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, and to your knowledge have there been sightings or reported sightings or interactions on every continent or yes, where are we talk.00:43:48.780 --> 00:44:00.390 Joedy Cook: Every guy oh yeah the thing of it is you know every single continent of Africa as a variations of a big but like I said the adjustment that's in.00:44:01.170 --> 00:44:19.290 Joedy Cook: South Africa and even like in Kenya, they have one day actually called X, because they know what a gorilla chimpanzee looks like and this thing doesn't look anything like it it's just a large hairy man, so they call it packs and then obviously in Australia, you have the yali.00:44:20.430 --> 00:44:24.990 Joedy Cook: In Russia, you have the army ska China yeah the wild man or year on.00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:31.440 Joedy Cook: The yeti Canada of the sasquatch so it's all over the world.00:44:32.700 --> 00:44:45.840 Joedy Cook: But what kind of makes it interesting is that they're probably different breeds of the animal not it's all it's the same species, but different breeds of the speech got it.00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:48.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey God we got to go to our last.00:44:48.030 --> 00:44:56.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Commercial break real quick and then we'll come back in just a minute i'm Kevin barbro we're talking big foot here on coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:47:10.680 --> 00:47:21.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back to coffee talk XL here on on talk radio dot nyc i'm Kevin Barbara and i've got my special guest Jody cook here, who is an expert.00:47:21.570 --> 00:47:43.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The expert on bigfoot and dog man sightings around the world and the research that goes behind that God, let me ask you two quick questions, one is what got you interested in this initially and have you yourself ever had any type of encounter like this.00:47:44.310 --> 00:47:49.800 Joedy Cook: yeah I have i'm not an expert I really go like that you know I.00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:51.870 Joedy Cook: I i'd be.00:47:51.900 --> 00:47:58.860 Joedy Cook: doing the papers you're like hey I, I know, but you know I can't i'm not an expert i'm just a really good research.00:47:59.610 --> 00:47:59.820 Like.00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:05.430 Joedy Cook: yeah I I I saw one.00:48:06.990 --> 00:48:16.350 Joedy Cook: Myself i've always been interested in the subject, even when I saw the legend of boggy creek as a kid that really got me.00:48:17.370 --> 00:48:32.820 Joedy Cook: And i've always been interested in it, but you know I had my own sighting when I was in the army and I had three other individuals with me and actually facing grayling Michigan and not know Ohio but.00:48:33.930 --> 00:48:48.450 Joedy Cook: We were, I was working on a range and we're breaking down the range hitting the ammunition back to the Asp and we're on the road, it was getting late because we wanted to get there before clothes, otherwise we ammunition.00:48:49.590 --> 00:48:56.910 Joedy Cook: Excuse me, so we end up going off road okay to try and get there faster, which is kind of a no, no, on a military installation.00:48:57.900 --> 00:49:10.500 Joedy Cook: So the wood line was getting really, really thick so we decided to stop and go back up on the road so as the vehicle was backing up, I was sitting in the passenger stevia driver and two guys in the back.00:49:12.450 --> 00:49:24.450 Joedy Cook: It moved it was probably I would say 12 maybe 15 feet of us it was that closed, and this is, this is about 830 in the evening Okay, and you know July.00:49:25.140 --> 00:49:36.690 Joedy Cook: late July early August, and it was still light out, and so we thought we hit a tree, I mean it was that big if it would not move move never seen it.00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:55.470 Joedy Cook: So it was like if you're looking forward, it would have been on your left movie to your right, I remember every single detail about the saying he was that close to us like a brownish red, for it was definitely in mail long arms long legs, a very muscular.00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:57.510 Joedy Cook: slender body.00:49:58.950 --> 00:50:01.260 Joedy Cook: The eyes are almost like a black red.00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:05.460 Joedy Cook: I mean literally like a black and spread no white whatsoever.00:50:07.170 --> 00:50:15.780 Joedy Cook: He did have a natural crash very human looking face flat nose massive draw what was so odd about this.00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.660 Joedy Cook: bigfoot is that.00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:39.210 Joedy Cook: He his he had here that was kind of missing, and it was he was kind of like the skin was kind of flaky or skelly like mange and that was the one thing that really got me because you were seeing the missing air on the body and again his skin clothes was almost like a mocha.00:50:40.560 --> 00:50:45.390 Joedy Cook: wasn't black it wasn't you know, like it was it was like in between.00:50:46.350 --> 00:50:58.500 Joedy Cook: And he looked at us and we're looking at him and he's moving from left or right watch this all time and it was like it was lighting, that was the best way to describe it like lighting.00:50:59.100 --> 00:51:13.170 Joedy Cook: And he when I went into the woods and that was it we get back up and we're going back into the common area didn't say a word each other, our vehicle got the ammunition out.00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:20.610 Joedy Cook: went back into our area and we're like you know we're not going to saying, even though this base.00:51:21.750 --> 00:51:24.000 Joedy Cook: So many bigfoot sightings on there.00:51:25.050 --> 00:51:27.510 Joedy Cook: Just about everybody i've seen one.00:51:28.680 --> 00:51:33.870 Joedy Cook: Your group of people have seen one on that base but you just never talked about it.00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:51.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Right God like and what would you say in all the research that you've done what what is the most compelling actual video evidence of a bigfoot anywhere in the world that you've seen.00:51:52.200 --> 00:52:03.720 Joedy Cook: I you know, obviously, you know the Patterson film is is very a very good film, I think the Patterson film is legitimate, I really do I know.00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:06.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One where people see him walking out and back.00:52:06.540 --> 00:52:12.480 Joedy Cook: yeah I believe that I did see one film which I.00:52:14.100 --> 00:52:32.430 Joedy Cook: It was just phenomenal and what it was, it was these two guys, there are hundreds and they're out in the field, and they see something in the north, in a tree move so they're videotaping it so they're zooming in on it and it.00:52:33.540 --> 00:52:34.290 Joedy Cook: A bigfoot.00:52:35.490 --> 00:52:45.450 Joedy Cook: In this looking this tree and you, it has its hand up like this and you see the fingers move you see the lips move you see the eyes move you see it move.00:52:46.890 --> 00:52:50.190 Joedy Cook: I mean it's a really good detail of saying like.00:52:51.690 --> 00:52:52.770 Joedy Cook: The guys said.00:52:54.240 --> 00:52:58.020 Joedy Cook: mother was at this Bush that was like right there.00:52:58.530 --> 00:52:59.880 Joedy Cook: They were able to see her.00:53:00.420 --> 00:53:00.990 So.00:53:02.100 --> 00:53:11.340 Joedy Cook: They knew they moved in further they run had to you know deal with her, and then the other hundred saw I guess the father that was up in the tree that was ready in balancing mode.00:53:11.940 --> 00:53:32.940 Joedy Cook: But Dana backing off the video was probably the best i've ever seen of evidence of have a big and there's another one that that's been out and a lot of people think the same is videos row and it's not it's just one we're just bigfoot comes around a rock and he's carrying a baby.00:53:34.380 --> 00:53:36.570 Joedy Cook: Okay, and it's a really clear video.00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:44.520 Joedy Cook: it's not a real video of a of a bigfoot I actually met the guy who made that costume.00:53:45.780 --> 00:53:46.080 Joedy Cook: He.00:53:46.260 --> 00:54:00.090 Joedy Cook: Was into special effects loved it, I was trying to get a job in Hollywood film basically was what he Dudes and to to get a job, and it was his daughter that he made a costume but it's so realistic.00:54:00.660 --> 00:54:13.290 Joedy Cook: And it is so good, of a bigfoot everybody believes it, I mean it's all over YouTube it's all over social media, but I mean i've actually seen pictures of the costume i've actually talked to the guy.00:54:14.490 --> 00:54:16.410 Joedy Cook: you send me pictures of the costume.00:54:17.520 --> 00:54:17.850 Joedy Cook: So.00:54:18.900 --> 00:54:25.920 Joedy Cook: That was about the only other one that was like really I consider them but there's a lot there's a lot of stuff out there.00:54:26.520 --> 00:54:39.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Oh man dude listen, I was talking last week, I had an audition to be the host of a TV show about the unexplained, this is why he decided to tell the story because i'm fascinated by what we don't know.00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:49.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And man there's stuff out there, we probably don't want to know to be honest with you but we're gonna wrap up here in a minute, but let me ask you one more question.00:54:50.280 --> 00:55:09.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, what do you think Where does this come from, I mean, do you think that this is someone tried to domestic size gorillas and it didn't work out or there was some breeding, what do you think is that it's kind of the the genesis of it but.00:55:09.090 --> 00:55:21.960 Joedy Cook: The thing is, you know you take a humans are prime you have others for human chimpanzees gorillas and orangutans okay so somewhere along the line between.00:55:23.490 --> 00:55:36.780 Joedy Cook: primates and the human a branch broke off with the species, because if you look at, if you look at the Patterson film okay there's a lot of human characteristics yeah but.00:55:37.470 --> 00:55:47.610 Joedy Cook: that's a human characteristic okay gorillas and chimpanzees they don't have butts Okay, because they don't have that muscle to keep their body erect that's why they're quadruplets.00:55:48.210 --> 00:56:03.300 Joedy Cook: Right hey to you before foot is another example which is a human trait the breasts that are on patty that her particular breasts are humans are breast primate breasts are quite are a lot different.00:56:03.720 --> 00:56:15.060 Joedy Cook: yeah Oh, to be human and facial features of these things is definitely you know human the notes, especially you know when when people talk about.00:56:15.990 --> 00:56:27.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah well listen God Thank you so much for coming on coffee talk man, I was glad I got to share my story with you and and to hear a little bit about because I like I said, I believe it dude I lived it.00:56:28.470 --> 00:56:35.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you know it's great to know people out out there, like you, they're researching it and I really appreciate you coming on coffee talk.00:56:35.850 --> 00:56:37.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And beyond again.00:56:37.980 --> 00:56:39.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Definitely thanks a lot boss.00:56:39.270 --> 00:56:40.110 Joedy Cook: Or you take care.00:56:40.680 --> 00:56:58.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Of this week's edition of coffee talk XL i'm Kevin barbro i'm here every Tuesday night at eight o'clock live on talk radio dot nyc or on Facebook COM slash talk radio in my see i'll be back next Tuesday night and maybe we'll talk more bigfoot more bigfoot we'll see you then.

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Kevin introduces his guests for today, his best friend Kramer and Marco Rosario. They discuss branding as an actor and how they manage their appearance. Recently Kevin has had 12 auditions and it is important that he looks the same. Casting directors will often get mad when you arrive at a callback looking significantly different from your audition. Kevin shares his experience with the coolest audition he had this week. They also discuss their road trip through Ireland to see the band U2 and Kramer's extensive collection of albums.SEGMENT 2Kevin takes pride in being a great companion for road trips. Kramer was the one who approached him with the idea to follow U2 as they toured across Ireland. They cruised through the country without a GPS and stumbled upon interesting sites like a cemetery where Kramer hoped to find family. After searching for the oldest headstones at the plot Kramer and Kevin found something even better.SEGMENT 3Kevin welcomes his second guest, Marco Rosario, mental health professional, fellow actor and DJ. Marco talks about his acting experience and embracing his brand. He also shares love of music and aspiration to be a radio DJ at a young age. Much like Kevin and his new chapter, Marco pursues his career as a mental health professional later in life. Marco began studying mental behavioural health and fell in love with behavioral health.SEGMENT 4Marco talks about the stigma against mental health and explores how this specifically presents in men. He also notes that many are unable to explore who they are deep down and how therapy helps people confront this. He also shares ways to assist people you know in a way that makes them feel validated. There are a number of resources and apps that people can turn to for emotional guidance. Kevin and Marco talk about the emotional impact that music has on people.TRANSCRIPT00:00:30.030 --> 00:00:39.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everyone i'm Kevin barbro and you're listening to coffee talk XL here on talk radio dot nyc or you're watching me live right now.00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:59.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On facebook.com slash talk radio nyc just all one word so today's episode we're going to be talking music we're going to be talking traveling I got my best friend in the world Kramer is joining us I you're muted brother you gotta you gotta bounce that mute off brother.00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:14.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And yeah man and he's my my rider die we've been on massive road trips all over the world, and he has a huge music collection behind him right now, and so.00:01:15.390 --> 00:01:25.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're going to be talking about a road trip that we took that was that was essentially done out of music, for the most part, and then after that.00:01:25.590 --> 00:01:40.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I am going to have my buddy Marco rosario who I don't know if everybody else can see anybody background working on his computer right out and i'm going to have him on in about a half an hour here second hour show but crazy week bro dude.00:01:42.150 --> 00:01:45.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Kramer you tell me if you feel the same way right but.00:01:46.980 --> 00:01:51.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't like to shave bro I don't know how often you get a shape for work because, like you get a real job.00:01:53.250 --> 00:02:04.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I can't stand it, so I talked last week on my show about as an actor and the branding that goes behind me as an actor.00:02:05.910 --> 00:02:19.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I actually this go to you bro I mean I cultivate this man, I called me I I talked to this go to my cat licks this go to at night all right that's how I grow this bad boy and.00:02:20.610 --> 00:02:24.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So somebody wants me to shave they gotta pay.00:02:25.260 --> 00:02:26.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know I got a price to pay.00:02:26.610 --> 00:02:32.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because I I can't stand to shake I don't know how you feel about a girl I can't stand.00:02:32.460 --> 00:02:40.710 Rob Warren: It I mean luckily i've been working from home for the last year, so i've been able to you know just let it go I don't have to really look very good for anybody.00:02:41.220 --> 00:02:58.320 Rob Warren: Just to actually this morning, though, just to just to prime up for your show I shaved off about a three week beard I trimmed it down a little bit, but I never get clean shaven i'll trim it down some but it's very, very rare I bet in the last year i've been clean shaven maybe twice.00:02:59.910 --> 00:03:10.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well dude in the world of acting you know, obviously they commercials sometimes they want me to be clean shaven, and I mean it's actually rare because.00:03:10.980 --> 00:03:30.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm telling you 95% of the time they they want this particular look right here, but I did get an email today hey we'd like for you to do this, show it's a it's a commercial I don't even actually know it's a commercial because it sounds more like a PSA on vaccinations and it'll one.00:03:31.470 --> 00:03:43.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the New York City, you know tri state area market, it was labeled as a commercial but I actually think it's probably more like a PSA but anyway long story short, they asked me hey man, would you be willing to shake.00:03:44.340 --> 00:03:44.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Now.00:03:46.050 --> 00:03:56.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This is my sweet spot bro okay my sweet spot is right around $1,000 i'm just throwing it out there to the hacking right so.00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:01.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I have a price if there's a certain price for me to just be on a show there's a certain price for me to shake.00:04:02.340 --> 00:04:13.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And that price to shave is higher and the sweet spots 1000 these cats are coming in a little under the sweet spot bro so i'm actually in a position right yeah I you know what I don't need that.00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:14.760 Rob Warren: might not be worth it.00:04:15.540 --> 00:04:19.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Yet, because the problem is i'm not going to look like this.00:04:19.350 --> 00:04:40.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah for like two weeks if I shave it off, you know what i'm saying so, and not only that no exaggeration, I probably had minimal I haven't even counted it, but if I were to guess iPad 12 auditions in the last 10 days I mean that's a walk in and was a holiday to.00:04:40.710 --> 00:04:52.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah and i've already i've already cranked out like eight or nine of those and I had to go to so if all of a sudden listen casting directors can't stand it when you show up.00:04:52.890 --> 00:04:59.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you don't look like you did in the audition when you get called back for this yeah for call back you know I mean, obviously.00:05:00.210 --> 00:05:11.520 Rob Warren: You know you've got a particular look, you know you've got like though the working man every day look, you know and without to go it goes away completely your you look like a totally different person and So do I.00:05:12.210 --> 00:05:13.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude i'm telling you.00:05:14.730 --> 00:05:18.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I probably can shave 15 years off my face just by good.00:05:20.430 --> 00:05:29.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm serious that I get like Greg it way back bad just get rid of the Gray, but probably the coolest audition I had this week.00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:46.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then we'll get to our story man, but probably the coolest audition I had this week is for like what I would consider to be the absolute perfect gig for me, so I think I might have mentioned that to you, so I got asked to audition.00:05:47.640 --> 00:06:08.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This is kind of like about the second or third round of this at this point, but it's to be the host of a TV show on an undisclosed station and I can't give away too much about the whole thing, but essentially this is to be the host of a of a nationally on national TV show.00:06:09.270 --> 00:06:10.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: about the unexplained.00:06:11.910 --> 00:06:12.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And dude.00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:16.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm telling you that it's almost as if this show was made for me.00:06:17.430 --> 00:06:18.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, you bet.00:06:20.010 --> 00:06:20.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Everything.00:06:20.670 --> 00:06:25.950 Rob Warren: yeah yeah we've had so many conversations about that kind of stuff over the years, you know.00:06:26.220 --> 00:06:43.020 Rob Warren: The great pyramids ufo is all sorts of stuff I mean if you look into the great pyramid oh my God, there is so much just wild stuff about the dynamics of that pyramid that there's no way humans 4000 years ago could have built that thing, no.00:06:43.530 --> 00:06:45.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: There is no way and.00:06:47.430 --> 00:06:56.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All if you add up all the little things because we've had this discussion before right, the fact that it's exactly the world's largest pyramid we're talking about the viewers.00:06:57.270 --> 00:07:07.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The world's largest pyramid is located exactly at the equator like not even not even like a hair off man it's exactly the equator.00:07:08.640 --> 00:07:10.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And not only is it exactly the way.00:07:11.220 --> 00:07:12.870 Rob Warren: It is to in the world.00:07:14.460 --> 00:07:15.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Yes, and.00:07:16.830 --> 00:07:24.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The sides of it, the bottom, the sides of it run exactly north, south and east, west.00:07:25.710 --> 00:07:28.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then the height of it.00:07:29.400 --> 00:07:35.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The height of it is exactly the mean height.00:07:37.110 --> 00:07:40.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: elevation of the world of the earth.00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:46.230 Rob Warren: That there is absolutely no way humans 4000 years ago could have known that be.00:07:46.260 --> 00:07:48.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm telling you it goes beyond that.00:07:49.020 --> 00:07:50.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What do you know how they.00:07:50.070 --> 00:07:51.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: built it yeah.00:07:51.390 --> 00:08:02.580 Rob Warren: Is it aliens is it you know, a religious being who knows, but how the hell did humans know that 4000 years ago there's no way.00:08:03.210 --> 00:08:12.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anyway, long story short, this by far, if I don't get this listen if I I killed the audition i'm going to be straight up real good.00:08:13.710 --> 00:08:31.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If I don't at least get to the next round i'd be i'd be falling down stand on this one now I obviously have like this crazy overconfidence myself at times, which has led to I don't know my own demise from time to time, as you know it for for the viewers Kramer.00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:47.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is my one friend, I said this last week on the show I said listen you got to find somebody that is going to be honest with you, because we all have people in our lives are going to tell us, whatever it is, we want to hear, but you got to find somebody.00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:58.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That has the wherewithal to be straight up honest with you that's Kramer in my life, so I mean multiple times in my life.00:08:59.760 --> 00:09:08.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm probably looking for the advice that I think that that i'm looking for somebody to tell me what I want to hear creamers I thought God.00:09:08.730 --> 00:09:14.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: don't wanna Kramer for information and because he's I mean when I resigned almost a decade ago.00:09:15.750 --> 00:09:18.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm on espn, and I mean they're talking about it.00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:23.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You your advice to me in terms of talking to the press was what.00:09:23.640 --> 00:09:29.160 Rob Warren: yeah I do public relations for a living i've done it for 27 years I told you to shut up don't talk to anybody.00:09:29.610 --> 00:09:30.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly and what did I do.00:09:31.380 --> 00:09:31.950 Rob Warren: You talk.00:09:32.550 --> 00:09:35.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Yes, yes, that because that's how I roll man and.00:09:36.750 --> 00:09:46.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It can, too, two months ago when an ex girlfriend hits me up through instagram you know about some ridiculous stuff.00:09:47.070 --> 00:09:48.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What was your advice.00:09:48.660 --> 00:09:51.690 Rob Warren: I said don't even reply to that nothing good can come from this.00:09:52.170 --> 00:09:53.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly and what did I do.00:09:54.030 --> 00:09:55.290 Rob Warren: you realize, of course.00:09:55.380 --> 00:09:56.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I would not yeah.00:09:58.440 --> 00:09:59.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway.00:10:01.800 --> 00:10:12.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What I wanted to talk about this week, besides the whole acting thing is a ball, as you know, our trip to Ireland and to Northern Ireland to see you too.00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:22.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Down just a little bit of a background for the people listening in and you're going to guess is that the is that the joshua tree.00:10:23.130 --> 00:10:27.030 Rob Warren: josh Sri originally from 1887 still sealed.00:10:27.450 --> 00:10:29.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Still seal not even notice.00:10:29.610 --> 00:10:30.630 Rob Warren: worth a lot of money.00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:31.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Where do you find that.00:10:32.370 --> 00:10:36.570 Rob Warren: I bought it originally in a 1987 still had to have it ever since.00:10:37.620 --> 00:10:39.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So it survived.00:10:39.330 --> 00:10:41.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is her name.00:10:41.550 --> 00:10:43.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Yes, it okay.00:10:43.680 --> 00:10:47.490 Rob Warren: That record and about 50 other record survivors.00:10:48.510 --> 00:10:51.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah so Kramer.00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is eminent wisdom back in the day, where, how many years was this 20 years ago.00:10:58.470 --> 00:10:59.760 Rob Warren: 20 years ago yeah.00:11:00.030 --> 00:11:01.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah so.00:11:02.790 --> 00:11:07.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He was in a relationship that was oh geez what's the word i'm looking.00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:08.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On toxic.00:11:13.680 --> 00:11:16.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the woman, he was with convinced him.00:11:17.670 --> 00:11:18.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Somehow.00:11:19.770 --> 00:11:29.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To get rid of an album and music collection that he had started when he was in a high I mean we were grown ass men.00:11:29.640 --> 00:11:41.010 Rob Warren: gigantic collection thousands and thousands of pieces, it was literally taking up an entire room in mine and my girlfriend's house and she hated it with a passion.00:11:41.430 --> 00:12:02.370 Rob Warren: Just determined to get rid of it, and you know in my in infinite wisdom back then sold it off, I hung on to about maybe two or 300 of the nearly 1500 CDs and I hung on to about 50 of the about 1000 albums.00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:11.850 Rob Warren: And it's The worst thing I ever did in my life getting rid of that I have built it back up, as you can see behind me.00:12:14.430 --> 00:12:16.710 Rob Warren: About 2000 albums right there.00:12:17.610 --> 00:12:31.350 Rob Warren: That I got over the last been really intense about it over the last three or four years and matter of fact there's a stack of records sitting right here next to me that came in the mail today I am i'm increasing it every day and.00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:35.670 Rob Warren: Just wish I had never gotten rid of that back in the day there's only about.00:12:37.110 --> 00:12:51.990 Rob Warren: Maybe 20 or 30 albums from back in the day that I hadn't replenish mostly i'll be honest, it was the grateful dead, because they are super expensive right now they're just ridiculous how much grateful dead vinyl is going for now.00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:58.530 Rob Warren: And really and i'm just not into it like I was back then, so I haven't replenished that aspect of the collection.00:12:58.830 --> 00:12:59.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But pretty much.00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:04.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Are not only expensive but it's but i'm guessing it's hard to find as well.00:13:04.770 --> 00:13:06.720 Rob Warren: is to a point yeah yeah.00:13:07.620 --> 00:13:13.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, listen we're going to be heading to our first commercial break here in a second, then, when we come back, I want to talk about our trip.00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:31.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: to Ireland, Northern Ireland, the reason we went was to watch you to we had six days plan, but the real adventure was outside of that we're going to talk about in just a minute i'm Kevin Barbara you're listening to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc and we'll be back in just a minute.00:15:58.620 --> 00:16:06.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and welcome back everybody to coffee talk so i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening on coffee talk dot nyc are you watching us live right now.00:16:07.230 --> 00:16:16.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: on Facebook COM slash talk radio nyc all just one word and just make sure that take a second follow me on Facebook, you can find me at.00:16:17.190 --> 00:16:35.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Kevin bar@facebook.com slash Kevin Barbara productions, or you can follow me on instagram at Kevin Barbara relaxing yada yada that's my self plug but i'm here with my best friend creamer and we're going to be talking about a road trip that we took so he and I have taken.00:16:36.990 --> 00:16:44.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A ridiculous amount of road trips in our life we, I mean I can't i'm a i'm a listen, you can correct me if i'm wrong but.00:16:46.110 --> 00:16:47.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm a great guy to road trip because.00:16:47.970 --> 00:16:51.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I have a dude I am up for anything.00:16:52.230 --> 00:17:00.000 Rob Warren: I don't want to wrote your with anybody with you, I go on a road trip with other people and i'm so disappointed, because I know how great it is when you and I road trip together.00:17:00.750 --> 00:17:19.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because dude I just roll with it man and and so anyway back in 2000 I think it was 2017 Kramer gets judged me he's like hey man i'm thinking about going to Ireland and following you to around because they're going to be playing Dublin and dude YouTube in Dublin Hello.00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.490 Rob Warren: Is it's a bucket list item for me, you know.00:17:23.910 --> 00:17:28.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: unreal yeah now how many how many YouTube concerts have you been to in your life.00:17:28.350 --> 00:17:30.900 Rob Warren: I have seen you to 39 times.00:17:31.170 --> 00:17:34.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly, so this is a YouTube efficient auto.00:17:35.010 --> 00:17:41.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah and they were going to be playing the oxygen Center in Dublin and then they were going to be heading up to Belfast to play.00:17:42.270 --> 00:17:52.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A small place there now normally they're playing you know soldier field which we've seen them at they're playing huge awkward stadiums and they packed in these small indoor ice arenas.00:17:53.190 --> 00:18:09.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And scaled it down so anyway, that was the reason we went and listen, if it comes a road trip and don't dare me, I mean just in real life don't dare me about anything, because if you dare me i'm going to do you know your APP dash twice don't even double dog dare me.00:18:09.810 --> 00:18:10.380 Rob Warren: yeah so.00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:20.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway, we road trip to Dublin flying to Dublin and kramer's fans now is it your mom's side your dad side that yeah.00:18:20.760 --> 00:18:25.770 Rob Warren: My mom's side, so my mom's parents were born just outside of Belfast and.00:18:26.430 --> 00:18:34.710 Rob Warren: I talked to my mom just before we went and she said, you know I remember going back there with my mom with her once with her mom who was born there.00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:41.850 Rob Warren: And when my mom was about maybe 20 or 25 years old, something like that, and she says um all she remembered was.00:18:42.330 --> 00:18:53.190 Rob Warren: She remembered going to this cemetery that was attached to a Catholic Church and she remember her uncle was there with them and the uncle said, you can go back to.00:18:53.970 --> 00:19:02.640 Rob Warren: The up the hill there in the back of the cemetery you'll see some graves that are down graves Gal was my grandmother's maiden name okay.00:19:03.450 --> 00:19:21.870 Rob Warren: So that's all we have my mom didn't know what town, this was in we knew it was in the general vicinity of Belfast that's it that's all we knew a cemetery that had a hill that had graves on top that were downloaded and it was attached to a Catholic Church that's all we knew so.00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:22.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I thought.00:19:22.770 --> 00:19:37.500 Rob Warren: Here, and we, so we go to my grandmother's hometown which is randalstown about 20 miles outside of Belfast and we scour every Catholic Church, with a cemetery within about a 30 mile radius of that area.00:19:38.280 --> 00:19:51.240 Rob Warren: And Sure enough, after like the fifth or sixth one we find a cemetery that has a little bit of a deal I go up the hill Sure enough, there are Gallo graves, on top of that hill unbelievable we.00:19:52.260 --> 00:19:55.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Do and and and the story doesn't even in there.00:19:55.530 --> 00:20:00.480 Rob Warren: Because that makes the beginning of how crazy this story is okay.00:20:00.540 --> 00:20:00.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So so.00:20:02.040 --> 00:20:12.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To recap it, it was we had no idea where we were go, I mean I we've never been to Northern Ireland i've been to Ireland like seven times Kramer and I went there back in the day.00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:24.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And traveled around this was this like 10 years ago, or so, but we had no idea now we're only there to just go and see you too, but this is just like hey man let's rent a car.00:20:25.320 --> 00:20:36.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: let's head out into the countryside and let's try to find this so we stop as Kramer was saying we stop at the small Catholic churches and we're at one one we've got a nun.00:20:37.260 --> 00:20:39.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah the rectory yeah.00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:50.310 Rob Warren: We we went into the rectory I explained my family history to the nun she pulls she's like well I don't know Maybe it was our Parish and she pulls out the old books.00:20:50.700 --> 00:21:02.070 Rob Warren: And you know from 100 years ago, but we can't find my grandma's name in there, or the family name anywhere so and their cemetery was very small and it didn't ever do so, we move off.00:21:03.390 --> 00:21:03.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly.00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know so we're driving up through the countryside.00:21:08.730 --> 00:21:17.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We go, we find a cemetery it doesn't meet all of the criteria that we're looking for, but there's somebody inside, they say, you know what.00:21:18.060 --> 00:21:28.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That this sounds like possibly there's a place in in in our county you know because Ireland is divided up into like 36 counties or whatever it is, and.00:21:29.760 --> 00:21:33.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You should try it out, I mean we were just literally flying blind and.00:21:34.140 --> 00:21:35.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We don't have a GPS, we don't have anything.00:21:35.850 --> 00:21:45.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're just we're literally just kind of cruising through so anyway we're coming up over this hill we see this burned out church.00:21:46.020 --> 00:21:46.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On the same.00:21:46.650 --> 00:21:58.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: property as a brand new church and this long sloping uphill and there's a a cemetery in it right so anyway, as Kramer was saying we roll up to this place.00:21:59.220 --> 00:22:09.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we we, it is the cemetery we're looking for, I mean, and this is beginning of the story, no way in the world, we could have been able to find this place.00:22:10.080 --> 00:22:12.570 Rob Warren: Right wow so.00:22:12.870 --> 00:22:19.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're there and kramer's i'm going around and he's looking at the different site look, you know, for his family.00:22:20.550 --> 00:22:28.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm just kind of walking around you know just looking at it i'm like a nine year old i'm looking for the oldest grieve I can find right.00:22:28.800 --> 00:22:40.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because I don't have any connection whatsoever i'm just thinking about the next pint of Guinness that we're going to get and this older guy maybe a little maybe 10 years older than us.00:22:41.670 --> 00:22:47.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Maybe a little more he rolls up and he's like hey what are you guys doing and we're just like.00:22:47.310 --> 00:22:51.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well we're just you know looking for my buddies family.00:22:52.050 --> 00:22:52.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: he's like why.00:22:53.310 --> 00:22:56.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I saw you were looking at this grave over there.00:22:57.120 --> 00:23:10.140 Rob Warren: yeah i'm actually standing on when he comes up i'm standing on top of one of the doubt graves and i'm taking a picture of the headstone and he comes up and he's kind of angry actually and he's like What do you do.00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:23.520 Rob Warren: And I was kind of taken aback i'm like whoa hey everything's cool here man no worries and I go I you know i'm from America explain, who we are and I go, I think this might be one of my relatives.00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:34.200 Rob Warren: And he goes just dead silent and blank for a second and then he looks at me for the face and he goes that's one of my relatives.00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah and so.00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:39.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As it turns out.00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:42.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Not only.00:23:43.950 --> 00:24:00.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Do we find this grave, not only do we find this random cemetery but this guy's daughter was picking up her kid this time I life works man anybody anybody's ever been around me they will tell you that.00:24:01.260 --> 00:24:08.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm lucky and most unlucky guy that you don't know and if you're with me you're going to experience both the lucky and unlucky side of that right.00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:12.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hold on.00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:15.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: sorry about that my cat.00:24:17.670 --> 00:24:19.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When you got a cat rescue that's what you do with me.00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:22.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway i'm.00:24:25.650 --> 00:24:26.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: His.00:24:27.390 --> 00:24:44.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: daughter is picking up or it from daycare that's located right at the back of the cemetery and she calls her dad hey there's these guys are hanging around like the family plot, you know me, as it turns out Kramer is related to these people, I mean we're.00:24:44.490 --> 00:24:47.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're in Northern Ireland we are in the.00:24:48.750 --> 00:24:53.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: East nowhere BSP of Northern Ireland.00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:10.590 Rob Warren: Maybe 2000 people and is in a small town like that, if you find somebody that you can go back 100 years and they got the same last name is you you're definitely related to them.00:25:11.190 --> 00:25:22.410 Rob Warren: Absolutely, we figure out that we're like fourth or fifth cousins and we randomly happened to me freaking grave site.00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:25.860 Rob Warren: 5000 miles away from my home.00:25:26.040 --> 00:25:26.610 I mean.00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:28.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So.00:25:29.280 --> 00:25:43.590 Rob Warren: he's like he from he almost instantly goes from being upset with me to like being overjoyed and he's he's he becomes the friendliest guy in the world, and he calls up his brother.00:25:44.040 --> 00:25:57.180 Rob Warren: Or it was either his brother or his cousin I can't remember which and he goes hey I you know you need to tell them the story, and these guys are super excited and he calls his mom who's like 85 years old, she lives down the street.00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.860 Rob Warren: Bring the Americans over for tea.00:26:05.820 --> 00:26:06.360 Rob Warren: house.00:26:08.370 --> 00:26:08.790 Rob Warren: Her.00:26:11.340 --> 00:26:15.090 Rob Warren: promise, or what led to their.00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:26.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Absolutely just read taking this man it and that the whole thing Okay, by the way, YouTube was amazing, of course, you know, but that really was.00:26:27.090 --> 00:26:42.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: everything except for I will say one other thing that was really impressive to me, besides what we were able to live experience there were the walls and Belfast and the walls are painted you know factoring the resistance with.00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:59.220 Rob Warren: Your roles and all that stuff and we found out very quickly here my grandfather lived in Belfast like just a block away from the Bobby Sands IRA, which is like the most prominent mural in all of Belfast on.00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:01.680 Rob Warren: Close to that.00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:08.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: crazy and we found his church as well, so anyway Kramer dude i'm going to have you back here.00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:15.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the next couple of weeks and we're going to go through some of our other road trips but great to see your brother keep collecting the music.00:27:15.750 --> 00:27:31.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we're going to be back here i'm going to have Marco rosario that's that's that's DJ Marco from philly baby he's going to be on here to talk about music and mental health and we're gonna be back here in just a couple of minutes on on coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:27:36.060 --> 00:27:36.510 And my.00:30:17.490 --> 00:30:24.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey welcome back everybody to coffee talk X oh i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc or you're watching this live.00:30:25.380 --> 00:30:36.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On facebook@facebook.com slash talk radio in nyc just one word I got my next guest on the show now my good acting buddy Marco rosario what's up brother.00:30:36.270 --> 00:30:37.320 Marco Rosario: what's up CAFE been.00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know hi Ben bro.00:30:42.450 --> 00:30:55.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They kill it in there, but uh interesting just to give people kind of a brief overview of our connection we actually were cast originally now we've been in multiple things together, but.00:30:56.250 --> 00:31:06.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We were cast originally to be a part of like this rebranding campaign by Ocean is the ocean city what what was what was the name of that.00:31:07.620 --> 00:31:12.000 Marco Rosario: ocean say Marilyn I think it's um oceans Downs ocean Downs casino.00:31:12.690 --> 00:31:24.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's what it was so myself and Marco they paired the two of us up with like three gorgeous women and beta seemed like we were like these high roller khakis.00:31:24.990 --> 00:31:34.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, if you go to ocean Downs guaranteed when you walking around you see all the pictures, you see the billboard and stuff that that's us.00:31:37.530 --> 00:31:39.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But interestingly enough.00:31:40.470 --> 00:31:42.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know I think part of it is.00:31:43.770 --> 00:31:50.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In in that kind of mid Atlantic region on the actor side of things so we're going to talk about music and mental health here in a SEC, but.00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:55.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On the actually there's just not a whole lot of.00:31:56.910 --> 00:32:06.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: actors, particularly middle aged guys that that are like us Okay, so we ended up we've done it, we would randomly show up.00:32:08.100 --> 00:32:10.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Then we realize it we're on a shoot for we've done.00:32:12.870 --> 00:32:14.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Two black and Decker.00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: gate one with the commercial.00:32:17.580 --> 00:32:20.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You had your own urschel I had my own.00:32:23.790 --> 00:32:33.420 Marco Rosario: We both were hired for like a print shoot which when we're together, I think, was like a collection of actors and models and then we've had our own separate black and Decker shoots.00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:39.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly, and then we were also there was a TV commercial.00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:44.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That ran it was an energy company or something.00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:44.880 Marco Rosario: yeah and.00:32:45.030 --> 00:32:45.600 randomly.00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: got cast in that as well, so.00:32:49.770 --> 00:32:51.600 Marco Rosario: I had the name escapes me but yeah.00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:53.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude.00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I can't exactly somebody like a man, I saw you on such and such commercial I don't even remember man.00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:03.000 Marco Rosario: Okay yeah okay thanks.00:33:06.990 --> 00:33:11.760 Marco Rosario: I say that humbly because, like even like when you asked me earlier, like the bio and I was like trying to think of.00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:27.990 Marco Rosario: Like how to solve the acting side of it, I was like wow 20 commercials like i've done that, and for myself when i'm in a short span i've only been acting actually for years now, I was actually take to this day today was the first day or four years ago today, I cast my first commercial.00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:29.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: No good.00:33:29.310 --> 00:33:35.310 Marco Rosario: yeah I know it shows me my my memories and was like wow time flies and that for years ago today, and here you know.00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:43.410 Marco Rosario: Putting the bios like wow it's been 20 plus since and only as good as me i'm able to because, like I said I couldn't list the names of the companies they all they all come and go.00:33:44.760 --> 00:33:50.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah no exactly, and you know, I think that part of this thing I was talking, because a lot of actors watch this.00:33:51.150 --> 00:34:01.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was talking about, yes, last weekend, I think the week before about just like branding and and you one one big thing is, you have to be.00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:12.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, a of all you have to be comfortable in your own skin, but you, you have to also, I think you have to identify what kind of a type, you are what kind of an.00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:26.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Act, what are, what are you most likely to be cast as now you're in a unique situation or even more so than I am, I mean we're both Italian, but you can actually be cast is as ambiguous.00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:27.960 Marco Rosario: ethnically ambiguous.00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:37.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah yeah so you know you can be somebody that's Latino you could be somebody that's Italian Middle Eastern I mean you just have like a.00:34:37.620 --> 00:34:49.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Really adaptable look and and that just opens up more avenues for you and because you know that that that that's part of who you are and your brand yeah.00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:55.230 Marco Rosario: And you have to be you have to be receptive to that, too, I think I mean i've seen it for myself that like I understand.00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:11.280 Marco Rosario: getting into this at an older age as opposed to starting out as a child or even as a teenager understanding like you said, this is, this is the role, I am suited for, and you know not not so much like as far as the stereotype or like a negative, you know.00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:21.090 Marco Rosario: type or anything like that, but this is the role, whether it's the fun dad or you know the the or the older uncle or Whatever the case may be, that they're looking for.00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:31.980 Marco Rosario: But embracing that and the last two three commercials that i've done now i've had the I think the ambiguous or even like the mixed family looked at the the casting is looking for.00:35:32.850 --> 00:35:42.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly, and I think that a big part of it is of course just being honest with yourself like like for me personally.00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:57.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I tell everybody all the time, probably the reason why i've been cast as many times I have is because i'm not model hot, I mean you know I i'm not a bad looking guy bro but you know but i'm not model hot.00:35:57.540 --> 00:35:59.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My buddies that are model.00:35:59.220 --> 00:36:06.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Hot in New York City those guys don't work like once a year for like a Gucci commercial or a BMW.00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:07.650 Marco Rosario: Well, but.00:36:07.980 --> 00:36:10.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I get cast, and you know what i'm cool with that.00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:16.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I get it man I get it, you know i'm moderately attractive i'm your next door neighbor yeah.00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But anyway, I wanted to talk about.00:36:21.270 --> 00:36:32.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and obviously it's great to connect with you on the acting stuff but I, you have music is a big part of my life, you know I own my own concert production company and.00:36:32.370 --> 00:36:33.300 Marco Rosario: Promotion company.00:36:33.750 --> 00:36:37.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so I get to travel literally all over the world for that and.00:36:39.420 --> 00:36:55.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I love live music I love music, in general I you know and i'm kind of you and I are similar and I love the 80s, I I think you know down, you know the greatest era of dance music ever invented right.00:36:57.060 --> 00:37:00.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so you have a life as a DJ.00:37:00.660 --> 00:37:06.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then you also have this other life as a mental health professional and.00:37:07.140 --> 00:37:18.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Tell me a little bit and tell us a little bit about how you ended up because this happened later in life to you know, obviously we're in your 30s yeah how did you decide that this was going to be like.00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:22.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your next adventure and and what made you passionate about that.00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:32.850 Marco Rosario: um the dual the DJ i'll start there because I came first the DJ was it was a hobby like anything like the same thing you have the passion for music and the love for music and I always thought.00:37:34.050 --> 00:37:38.760 Marco Rosario: I was the kid growing up that I wasn't really out drinking and doing like the.00:37:39.810 --> 00:37:41.490 Marco Rosario: teenage stuff I guess you could say.00:37:42.660 --> 00:37:51.510 Marco Rosario: I mean, I was out playing sports and whatnot but I knew that I was racing home at 8pm because I had the record the top a to date on the radio.00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:59.940 Marco Rosario: And and be able to catch those songs you know, in whatever order and have them, so it was always the passion of being able to get involved to get invested with the.00:37:59.940 --> 00:38:04.050 Marco Rosario: Music and my first love was wanting to be on the radio that a radio DJ.00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:13.680 Marco Rosario: Radio is taken on a life of its own as as time goes on, but DJ and in the music side of it was always like wow I like the way these songs.00:38:14.070 --> 00:38:17.130 Marco Rosario: Together I like the way the you know the the vibe and the feel of it.00:38:17.640 --> 00:38:25.890 Marco Rosario: and obviously going to parties and going to events, I was always bugging the DJ at family events before I got into it and you know hey why don't you try this song hey What about this and then.00:38:26.370 --> 00:38:40.110 Marco Rosario: It just got to the point where I was like i'm going to try this for myself and I well my father's friend fell into some DJ equipment and I kind of picked on.00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:44.850 Marco Rosario: You know, read through the lines there, but I picked up from it from there and.00:38:45.750 --> 00:38:52.710 Marco Rosario: yeah I guess that a hobby turned into more of a passion and then more of a profession, I started doing small gigs here and their.00:38:54.210 --> 00:38:59.490 Marco Rosario: Family events and everything oh ultimately weddings and into the point where i'm traveling and doing that.00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:07.860 Marco Rosario: But as any career goes or any profession goes you start to think of what could be the next step, what lies ahead and.00:39:08.730 --> 00:39:23.730 Marco Rosario: While doing all the company parties and weddings and you know, making nice money, making a nice name for myself, I got to travel the country doing gigs as well, but I in the back of my mind I didn't want to be that quote unquote 50 year old DJ who does sweet 16 you know.00:39:24.810 --> 00:39:29.070 Marco Rosario: What while music itself is timeless I didn't want to be the guy who like kind of.00:39:29.820 --> 00:39:34.020 Marco Rosario: kind of worn out as welcome you know, in that sense, and it got to the point where.00:39:34.290 --> 00:39:45.240 Marco Rosario: Like I love playing the music, I know that I enjoy and others enjoy but I, at the time I didn't really have the outlet for that, because you have to give you know what the client is paying for what the venue is asking for.00:39:45.720 --> 00:39:57.690 Marco Rosario: So I thought Plan B and my original plan was to go back to school in my 30s and be a health and physical health and physical education teacher, that was the initial plan going in.00:39:58.980 --> 00:40:05.790 Marco Rosario: I surveyed the landscape of education in fill in not just filled with the school districts and whatnot.00:40:06.330 --> 00:40:20.820 Marco Rosario: And I thought I don't know I feel like I would have been would have been handcuffed and I think the blessing, and that is that I went back to school in my 30s as opposed to right out of high school 1819 years old, where I had a little more.00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:37.470 Marco Rosario: than one life experience that were critical thinking skills and that I wasn't just being told what to do, I was kind of you know, laying my own foundation saying this is what I ultimately want to do so, I made the parallel into going from health and visit into mental behavioral health.00:40:38.910 --> 00:40:43.320 Marco Rosario: yeah dotting the i's and crossing the t's as far as transferring credits and everything.00:40:45.000 --> 00:41:00.120 Marco Rosario: And I just I fell in love with my internship that I did I did my senior internship at a behavioral health facility here in Philadelphia, and I fell in love with it, I fell in love with the fact that every day it's it's um.00:41:01.230 --> 00:41:07.170 Marco Rosario: it's never a dull moment put it that way you're seeing people from all walks of life from 18 to 65.00:41:08.940 --> 00:41:18.780 Marco Rosario: You know anything anxiety depression bipolar schizophrenia anything as far as their diagnoses and you know what they deal with on a day to day basis and.00:41:19.530 --> 00:41:30.540 Marco Rosario: It taught me to meet people where they are and i've been able to like translate that into not just what I do as a mental health professional, but also with music and understanding that.00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:48.930 Marco Rosario: music is also therapy music is such a amazing dynamic that maybe you and I may have taken for granted and that we were always you know consumed by it and you know and surrounded by but others really just have that outlet, as you know, what do I do with this, you know how can I cope.00:41:49.980 --> 00:42:03.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Exactly and I, and I think that music itself has such an amazing healing quality to it, it doesn't matter, what kind of music, it is there's something about music and you see this.00:42:04.530 --> 00:42:15.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In your profession, and you know that that people are able to connect to it, you know there's something about music it's almost it's almost.00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:28.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like a smell, you can connect to it and and we're going to talk about that a little bit more when we come back here just a second from the first break and I want to hear more about music and and how that that plays into your.00:42:29.250 --> 00:42:35.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your advice so i'm Kevin Barbara we're on talk, talk excel on talk radio dot nyc will be back in just a SEC.00:44:49.650 --> 00:44:59.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everybody to coffee talk XL we're in our final segment now listening on talk radio dot nyc i've got my good buddy Marco rosario you can follow him on instagram.00:45:00.270 --> 00:45:08.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At DJ Marco from philly all one word DJ Marco from philly or you can follow him on twitch because he does have a weekly.00:45:09.330 --> 00:45:29.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Mental health Monday night nine o'clock live on eastern nine o'clock Eastern live on twitch so go to twitch.tv DJ Marco from philly and you'll be able to watch that show as well, so anyway, I want to talk a little bit more about the whole mental health, a good listen man.00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:46.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that probably the smartest decision that I made as an adult was when I decided to go and talk to somebody about how I was feeling I.00:45:46.470 --> 00:45:55.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had gone through I don't want it just reader's digest went through something really dramatic and lost everything and was my own fault.00:45:56.580 --> 00:46:05.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it was hard to it was hard to process all of that, and probably the best thing that I could have done was to go to somebody.00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:21.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Who didn't have a vested interest in telling me what I wanted to hear, I went to somebody that to a counselor that can be completely objective and help me just start putting these things into place in the world of mental, what do you think, because I was nervous about going.00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:32.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And what do you think it is about the stigma of mental health and even just talking about it with what you think it is that keeps people from seeking help.00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:42.750 Marco Rosario: You weren't used you hit the keyword stigma the that feeling of, especially with men it's that feeling of i'm not allowed, or I can't be vulnerable.00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:49.440 Marco Rosario: um I think a lot of times we are conditioned as men, especially older men and, depending on their generation.00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:56.100 Marco Rosario: we're conditioned that he we don't show emotion, we don't discuss those things we just you know either.00:46:56.640 --> 00:47:09.750 Marco Rosario: Take it on the chin or suck it up, you know as as we were told, or you know you know we don't cry about it and we just move on, you know we just you know either distract ourselves with work or whatever else and we just we just pick up and move on.00:47:11.550 --> 00:47:20.040 Marco Rosario: And that's part of the stigma attached to it um there's other factors that fall into play as far as like you know, in terms of with not just men but.00:47:20.040 --> 00:47:21.360 Marco Rosario: Individuals as.00:47:22.170 --> 00:47:27.330 Marco Rosario: Really really not wanting to incur front, you know who they are, you know.00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:41.790 Marco Rosario: A lot of people have us the average person, and I do this on my on my on my show on twitch when I have guests on the first question I asked them is is not that i'm not interested in what you do i'm interested in who you are, but please tell me who are you.00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:49.680 Marco Rosario: yeah because a lot of times, people will identify themselves with what they do their work or you know their their role in life as a.00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:59.760 Marco Rosario: You know, a father or husband whichever the case may be, but but who are you, you know inside a lot of people don't really know how to connect or even identify with that so.00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:10.410 Marco Rosario: going to therapy or going to someone to talk to, but you said their objective they're going to offer you some perspective and insight that maybe you kind of were aware of.00:48:10.830 --> 00:48:16.440 Marco Rosario: You know self conscious self awareness, you know in that aspect but subconsciously you weren't putting it out into into.00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:25.650 Marco Rosario: into the into the work you weren't putting the effort out there to to confront it and that's where I tell people just having a simple conversation meeting people where they are.00:48:26.520 --> 00:48:42.450 Marco Rosario: And it's it's it's been for myself like I said, not just as a mental health professional but as an individual, but as a father, you know as a DJ even just having simple conversations and allowing people to just yeah open up yeah.00:48:42.600 --> 00:48:46.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that a big part of it is that if the end of the day.00:48:48.270 --> 00:48:53.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: because not only is there a stigma where people are free to go and seek help.00:48:55.140 --> 00:49:02.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Also, as somebody who, if you have a loved one or friend or a colleague or or a worker a.00:49:03.810 --> 00:49:09.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Work colleague that comes to you and it's obvious that they're struggling with something not only are they afraid to talk about it.00:49:10.650 --> 00:49:19.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But, for some reason we don't want to open up to that person or left or even touch on it, because we don't know what to say.00:49:19.530 --> 00:49:21.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah yeah, what do you.00:49:24.210 --> 00:49:24.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Think.00:49:25.650 --> 00:49:36.420 Marco Rosario: I get that too, because a lot of times it's it's you know hey I don't know what to say so, go to a service it's not saying to point them in the finger, but our role as again a Co worker or a friend or an acquaintance is to be that bridge.00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:44.760 Marco Rosario: and saying listen, you may not want to admit it, or you may not want to you don't have to tell me, but I know something's up I know you're not yourself.00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:56.100 Marco Rosario: And when you're ready or if you're willing i'm willing to listen, because a lot of times people when they you know they have something on their mind or something they didn't know they they need to deal with.00:49:56.610 --> 00:50:03.420 Marco Rosario: Three they're looking for answers are looking for some kind of like label like what is this i'm feeling, what is this i'm going through.00:50:03.870 --> 00:50:07.650 Marco Rosario: And if you're someone who likes to be a problem solver.00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:17.970 Marco Rosario: right away we're quick to Oh, this is what you need to do, or just get over it, or you know and they think back to their past trauma, you know the way they were raised, you know just get over it, or stop worrying about it and that's.00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:29.700 Marco Rosario: really not what they want to hear it's really not what they need, at that time so simple things like I may not have what you're looking for, I mean, I have the answers but i'm here to listen and if there's any way we can go.00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.090 Marco Rosario: let's do that so being with.00:50:34.290 --> 00:50:38.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It, what do you think so, to me it seems like.00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:59.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Mental health issues are way more in front of us and in the open now than they happen in the past and we're just coming out of a worldwide pandemic people have been holed up in their home state they there they they don't know what direction to go in, because entire world has changed.00:50:59.730 --> 00:51:04.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah there's nothing that hasn't changed in this world and.00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:22.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In your in your professional experience and advice here, what do you think it is that we need to really focus on as a society to to move forward, to make sure that we're taking care of people that can't take care of themselves.00:51:23.100 --> 00:51:32.880 Marco Rosario: um I think I think first and foremost, before we you know we have to confront ourselves because we're all going through we've all been through this pandemic, or you know are going through it.00:51:33.750 --> 00:51:42.600 Marco Rosario: So, aside from me as a professional i'm looking at me as an individual and understanding that while the entire world stopped it came to a stop.00:51:43.380 --> 00:51:52.950 Marco Rosario: And while it did that allowed other things in our world and our lives to catch up so maybe things that we kind of did not prioritize are things that we really did not want to give attention to.00:51:53.400 --> 00:52:01.410 Marco Rosario: Now we have no choice but to So this is the, this is the opportune time for a lot of us to be you know honest with ourselves and say.00:52:02.100 --> 00:52:09.120 Marco Rosario: You know that job that I hate it 16 months ago Do I really want to go back to it, you know, like even myself like i'm.00:52:09.630 --> 00:52:22.500 Marco Rosario: valuation like the acting aspect you know what where do I want to go once things do you'll come back into play, or even with teaching, I want to go out back on the road as much you know so having that conversation with myself and then again.00:52:23.580 --> 00:52:28.590 Marco Rosario: offering the outlet to others, you know there's number of not just therapists now that you can speak to.00:52:28.830 --> 00:52:37.170 Marco Rosario: Virtually on zoom you know Skype or anything like that, but there's a number of Apps talk space, there are a number of things that you know that can help people and point them in the right direction.00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:42.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Right and and i'm now, we were talking about music earlier.00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:47.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What do you think it is about music, that is.00:52:49.680 --> 00:53:02.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Pretty or soothing to people what it because I mean you're deep in that in the music world i'm deep in the music world I have ideas, but I was curious what you think the connection is with people.00:53:03.060 --> 00:53:08.730 Marco Rosario: I think like anything with with feeling there's going to be, you know.00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:18.930 Marco Rosario: it's subjective what you what you find comforting I might find you know it hurts my ears, you know down the aisle that's just being extreme, but I think anything that involves a feeling.00:53:19.590 --> 00:53:25.740 Marco Rosario: You know, has the impact to change your life, you know a lot of people say you know with music, you know.00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:34.650 Marco Rosario: What is it about music that you love well it's comforting it's soothing it distracts me Okay, but also keep in mind that music can keep you in that feeling that you're having.00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:41.400 Marco Rosario: You know, like if you're feeling depressed are you still seeing the sad music, are you still listening to things that you know, keep you in that light.00:53:41.700 --> 00:53:44.790 Marco Rosario: You know, or are you using it as a coping strategy where.00:53:45.120 --> 00:53:56.460 Marco Rosario: You know hey I don't want to feel this way you know i'm going to find music is going to pick me up and I want to dance I go to the gym I got you know my up tempo music that's all you know those are all coping techniques and strategies using music.00:53:56.790 --> 00:54:03.840 Marco Rosario: And utilizing it I think it's a feeling I tell bride and groom's that when I meet with them that hey i'm going to meet you closer to the date of your wedding.00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:11.850 Marco Rosario: Because if we meet six months from the the event you're going to change your mind three months in advance, your mind, but a month or so out music is feeling.00:54:12.300 --> 00:54:15.180 Marco Rosario: And I want to get as close to the feeling for your big day as possible.00:54:15.570 --> 00:54:26.730 Marco Rosario: And then that changes the perspective, because it really is like you know in any song, it can be a mood changer you know we all have that song that you hear the first two notes and it's like Oh yes, like that's really what it is.00:54:29.340 --> 00:54:43.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah that's I mean I obviously I agree, I I love music I think it's it's probably the greatest invention that we have at least one of we're going to end up the show here in a minute feel quick.00:54:44.460 --> 00:54:49.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: greatest most talented artists, of the 80s, who would you say off the top of your head.00:54:49.710 --> 00:54:50.580 Marco Rosario: Of the 80s.00:54:53.010 --> 00:54:54.570 Marco Rosario: They did in the 80s you're saying are.00:54:55.350 --> 00:54:58.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They signify the 80s well i'll tell you like.00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:03.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm just i'm just throwing this out there, I think the Prince.00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:04.650 Marco Rosario: Okay, is.00:55:05.340 --> 00:55:06.720 For the most talented.00:55:08.550 --> 00:55:08.820 Marco Rosario: They.00:55:09.150 --> 00:55:10.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Of all time I.00:55:10.170 --> 00:55:13.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: mean we're not even talking to ED bro what what, what do you think.00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:15.120 Marco Rosario: We agree, we agree.00:55:17.580 --> 00:55:18.300 Marco Rosario: Definitely great.00:55:21.540 --> 00:55:35.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude he so talented great singer great dancer to play like 25 instruments anyway dude thanks so much for being on coffee talk XL i'll have you back here soon best of luck with the DJ and the barbering the husband dad.00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:53.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That the acting everything else and and with your show to on Monday so follow them on instagram at DJ Marco from philly i'm Kevin Barber oh thanks for listening in to another coffee talk XL be back next week on talk radio dot nyc and we'll see that.

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1If you're an actor you have to update your casting network profile, which is not always an easy task. Kevin has noticed many people asking how you connect all your profiles. He tells you a simple way to do this. When managing these profiles, Kevin encourages you to also consider what your brand is and how people perceive you. Kevin once believed that the world perceived his one way only to learn that it was the opposite. It was when he understood this that he got a better sense of what roles people would find more believable.SEGMENT 2You have to run your career like a business and project positivity to move your career forward. One thing Kevin tries to do in terms of branding is when he is auditioning, if the style of dress is not specified, Kevin will wear the exact same outfit. Often these auditions are performed by the same casting agencies and directors so he wants to be consistent and memorable. A lot of actors inevitably make sacrifices for their survival jobs and are unable to put the time in to launching their acting career. For him that meant remaining fit. Kevin tells a story about a very humbling moment he experienced at an audition.SEGMENT 3Kevin had to restart his life after the end of his coaching career. In order to remain motivated Kevin reminded himself that life is at least a two act play. You need to be fearless and go all in because this is your life. Coming out of this pandemic, Kevin is preparing for the changes in the entertainment industry as we emerge from the pandemic. At the beginning Kevin believed that something big must have been happening when the NCAA cancelled March Madness. Once the world shut down the bills unfortunately were still coming in for vendors.SEGMENT 4As a promoter or a vendor you take on a lot of risk with each event you host. It is currently unclear what concerts will look like in the future due to the varying response from states and the way people feel about going out. If there is a low turnout, there is a chance that a profit will not be made. Kevin notes that artists will likely be making less now as well to compensate for less money potentially coming in from ticket sales and the concession stand. Next week Kevin will talk more about the changes in this industry.TRANSCRIPT00:00:28.080 --> 00:00:35.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everybody to coffee talk XO i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc or.00:00:36.150 --> 00:00:49.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Watch me on Facebook on Facebook COM slash talk radio nyc all just one word and welcome back to the fourth fourth week to the fourth edition of coffee talk and last week.00:00:50.790 --> 00:01:03.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: highly successful like the viewership and the listenership continues to build and that's exciting visit been such a long time since I had my other show and it's great to see a lot of people.00:01:03.450 --> 00:01:21.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That listen back then listening now and then, of course, a lot of people is as well, but i'm here every Tuesday nights at eight o'clock Eastern and just thankful everybody's joining me crazy week, this week, if you're an actor and I know that a lot of people listening or watching our actors.00:01:22.230 --> 00:01:32.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Unless you've been living under a rock you realize that you have to update your casting networks profile and.00:01:34.170 --> 00:01:45.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: not the easiest thing in the world to do, you would think it'd be easy, but this is, this is not your grandfather's casting networks Okay, so one thing that I.00:01:45.660 --> 00:01:59.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: was kind of circulating on the Facebook on the Facebook groups for actors and Twitter and whatnot people were having a question about I actually stumbled on the answer to and i'm going to give you the answer to the question what it is, is.00:02:02.130 --> 00:02:10.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If you are acting in more than one area so like somebody like myself who I opened myself up to acting anywhere in the country so i've.00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:28.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i've auditioned and shot things in La your Seattle Denver everywhere in between, and so casting networks, as you know, if you're an actor, you can choose what area that you receive the casting notices.00:02:29.550 --> 00:02:38.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You can have more than one, so you can have more than one profile and somebody like me as well, I have multiple agencies that i'm with so I have.00:02:39.420 --> 00:02:58.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A New York agency, I have philly I have Charlotte I have Florida Miami Orlando, I have my la agent, and they all have their own casting network profile, so that they can submit me for the casting calls to come into them they don't go out to the general public, like.00:02:59.640 --> 00:03:03.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like the open calls or whatever it is so anyway, the question was.00:03:04.890 --> 00:03:08.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we couldn't figure this out a lot of people couldn't figure it out was how do you connect all your.00:03:10.290 --> 00:03:19.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: profiles, because once you log in you're only able to log in with one email, and then, when, and then there was no other options.00:03:20.610 --> 00:03:30.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: here's what you do so if you had a casting networks if you had more than one, then you would have had more than one username.00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:44.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So my username was just my username and then I had the neck, then I had multiple ones after that so it's like my username and the number one username number two cetera et cetera login with one of the additional.00:03:45.420 --> 00:03:46.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Other.00:03:47.250 --> 00:03:56.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: usernames that you have and it's automatically going to populate so that you can go through and connect all of your profile, so if you're an actor.00:03:57.060 --> 00:04:06.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I know a lot of actors are watching this listening to this that's how you do it just logging on one of the other ones, so, and one thing you got to keep in mind too.00:04:06.900 --> 00:04:24.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I I went through my luckily I took the time do usually listen i'm a really hard working guy I work or I you know, I have three companies to run and I got my acting career and I got my my my my cat rescue Rockies rescue.00:04:25.530 --> 00:04:35.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I got a lot of things going on and so i'm a hard worker, but every once in a while i'll get lazy about something that's just that's just a glitch a.00:04:36.210 --> 00:04:46.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: glitch in my personality, or a tick and sometimes sometimes things that I don't perceive to be important, I just kind of skim over kind of you know.00:04:47.790 --> 00:04:50.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Man look at, so to speak, and so.00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:52.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: um.00:04:53.340 --> 00:05:02.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One of the things I normally would just man look at is going down and through my profile on casting networks and finding out.00:05:03.570 --> 00:05:18.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know all the different things like your credits and I like I said, well, I realized, as I went down it automatically had changed to a default on your settings so as you're going through on your settings.00:05:19.890 --> 00:05:23.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You want to you want to make sure that everything is the way that you want it so like with me.00:05:24.630 --> 00:05:26.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One of the things on casting networks is sure.00:05:28.260 --> 00:05:28.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your.00:05:30.090 --> 00:05:41.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: facial here, and so it lists that i'm willing to have i'm willing to be clean shaven i'm willing to have a mustache i'm willing to have a goatee i'm willing to have a full beard.00:05:42.270 --> 00:05:47.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But one thing for the men, one of the one of the items, there is, are you willing to shave.00:05:49.410 --> 00:05:51.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Or are you willing to grow out.00:05:52.200 --> 00:06:06.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your facial here to fit the role and the default, for that is no apparently and I am i've run out my beard for movies have grown out or i've been clean shaven for TV or commercials you know.00:06:07.320 --> 00:06:19.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As a guy, and this is tough, though this I don't blame anybody who doesn't want to shave first of all because you know and we're going to talk a little bit more about branding.00:06:20.430 --> 00:06:27.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know and branding myself branding me as a career me as an actor, a big part of that branding is.00:06:29.010 --> 00:06:35.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Honestly it's my goatee and, as a matter of fact, through i've probably been on.00:06:37.020 --> 00:06:44.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: No exaggeration, I think that i've done probably 4000 audition since I became an actor almost 10 years ago.00:06:46.410 --> 00:06:59.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Maybe even more at least 3000 probably 4000 audition I don't even get nervous right but, more often than not, and I would say, like 90% of the time when I get a call.00:06:59.580 --> 00:07:20.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For either a call back or to be put on hold or permit them to book me nine times out of 10 they asked me do you still have to go to, and so I normally just wear the goatee now somebody wants me to be clean shaven because my brand This is my brand this look right here um.00:07:21.300 --> 00:07:31.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They had to pay for me to shave not going to shave for free, so if if they're not because the problem, then, is i'm suddenly not going to look like my headshot for like.00:07:32.670 --> 00:07:43.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At least 10 days to I mean to cultivate this man, it takes minimum three weeks to get it back to the exact style that I have in it and so uh.00:07:44.640 --> 00:07:50.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's a question for guys make sure that you go through and and you check that so getting back to.00:07:51.240 --> 00:08:01.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just the branding and reader's digest version what we talked about last week so last week to talk about how I had this whole other career.00:08:02.490 --> 00:08:19.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it was my entire life and and I was, I was lucky enough to be really successful at it and and made a name for myself, you know around the country and got to travel world and everything else, and then things went belly up my own my own fault screwed it up.00:08:20.880 --> 00:08:33.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And rock bottom, you know 40 years old, obviously you got it you got to find something else to do, and so what I did and readers it, you can go back and watch last week's episode right here on Facebook, but.00:08:34.800 --> 00:08:43.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know I moved to New York City took a chance on myself, starting from dead scratch living out of my car and built up.00:08:44.010 --> 00:08:53.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: An acting career over the last you know, almost a decade now to where i've you know done, I have agencies all over the country you know i've been fortunate enough to do.00:08:54.030 --> 00:09:00.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Hundreds of gigs and over 100 commercials almost hundred 50 commercials and things like this, so.00:09:00.990 --> 00:09:13.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But one of the things we were talking about is just taking a chance and going on in, and this is this is this isn't just acting is acting this coaching so I know a lot of coaches watch the show.00:09:15.780 --> 00:09:18.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: From my coaching career and.00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:20.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And just business in general.00:09:22.380 --> 00:09:29.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A big part of moving your career ahead moving your businesses head is the branding.00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:41.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What makes you different than everybody else, what makes your company stand out what makes you as a coach stand out What do people perceive you to be.00:09:43.020 --> 00:09:52.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What do people say about you when you're not around because that's that's what's really circulating is what kind of a perception, do you have and what makes you memorable.00:09:54.690 --> 00:09:55.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:09:57.060 --> 00:10:02.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think I don't think I know this is lost on a lot of people, I know that it was lost on me.00:10:03.570 --> 00:10:06.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For years, and it was.00:10:07.890 --> 00:10:21.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It ultimately led to my own demise was the fact that I wasn't conscious of what my brand was as a coach and what I mean by that is.00:10:22.050 --> 00:10:34.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had an idea in my head what I thought that people thought of me I had an idea of what kind of perception, I was giving to the coaching world and to the world of athletics.00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And let me tell you some.00:10:39.060 --> 00:10:47.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: huge difference between the way that I thought that I was perceived and the actual perception that I gave on.00:10:48.480 --> 00:11:00.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And unfortunately for me or fortunately I guess, because obviously my life turned out, you know great but uh but, unfortunately, for that career or that chunk of my life.00:11:02.400 --> 00:11:19.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I wasn't spending enough time being conscious of the brand that I was putting out there, you know I thought that people looked at me as a man he's a really great coach you know, he said, all these great teams yada yada nice guy funny etc, etc, in reality.00:11:21.390 --> 00:11:22.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: or your.00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:32.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Maybe a drunk you know womanizer you know cost is too much you know all of these things are worth it was a perception.00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:42.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That I was giving off whether it was true or not didn't matter, because at the end of the day, people don't care about the truth and you'll hear me say that lots of times.00:11:43.110 --> 00:11:53.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: People don't care about what they care about is perception is it believable when I see this person, what do I think when I hear this person's name, where do I think and so.00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:06.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: actors and any businessman or any coach as you're moving forward, you have to be conscious about what is your brand what kind of perception you're putting out there.00:12:06.690 --> 00:12:16.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we're going to talk about that, when we get back from the first commercial break here on Kevin Barbara you're listening to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:23.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everybody to coffee talk so i'm giving barbro and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc or you're watching us live right now on facebook.com slash talk radio nyc all one word.00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:46.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we are talking about branding and the perception that you give off whether it's as a business as a coach as an actor, whatever it is that that that you do whatever your career is, you have to run your career, like its own business and just like.00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:49.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You have to create.00:15:50.430 --> 00:15:57.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A a sense about yourself that that the perception that you give off is positive, obviously.00:15:58.230 --> 00:16:09.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Unless your goal is to not be successful, the goal is that, for there to be a positive vibe about you and a positive perception about you and, through your branding of who you are, how you act.00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:18.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: How, you are perceived by people, then this is how you're going to help move your career forward, and this is something I was very conscious about.00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:38.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As I started my second chapter of life, because the first chapter ended in tragedy, you know self destruction and homelessness and you know losing everything and then having to literally start from scratch, and so, when I was starting from scratch, I basically said hey.00:16:40.020 --> 00:16:41.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's myself, obviously.00:16:42.510 --> 00:16:51.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I need to be conscious about who I really am, and this has to adapt over time so like as an actor.00:16:52.140 --> 00:17:03.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As an example, as I mentioned earlier, my goatee my goatee as part of my branding how I look, obviously I am my own, you know trademark, I guess, we want to put it.00:17:04.320 --> 00:17:20.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so what I tried to do is I try to always keep unless i'm preparing for a role, I tried to keep the same physical appearance all the time, because that way i'm memorable and I see a lot of actors that.00:17:22.140 --> 00:17:40.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: listen more power to you know if you're booking gigs awesome man, but if if you are constantly changing your appearance you're going to be kind of hit or miss on when it comes time to do these auditions and, like, for me, because i'm mostly commercial like mostly commercial actor.00:17:41.670 --> 00:17:42.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know i'm doing.00:17:43.860 --> 00:17:52.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It right now I mean I did I think a line say i've already done six slots additions this week it's only Tuesday, and so, but the one thing that I tried to do.00:17:53.940 --> 00:18:05.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In terms of the branding of who I am is that when I do an audition unless they asked me to wear something specific so sometimes you'll get the sides.00:18:06.390 --> 00:18:21.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you'll you'll you'll get the taping instructions and it will say that they wanted upscale or they they want to refined you are but or they want to date, they want to working class or whatever it is, if it doesn't say anything.00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:31.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Then, what I do and it works for me I don't know if it would work for other people, but you know it's part of my brand brought forth I am.00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:44.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I do all my auditions in the same exact outfit and you're looking at it right now, if you're watching me on Facebook, this is what I audition in I would say 90% of the time.00:18:45.330 --> 00:19:02.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Playing black fitted T shirt I have the same I I do my auditions to the same exact spot I am right now, I have a plane background behind me, I have invested because we talked last week you got to invest in yourself I invested in making sure that I have.00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:17.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A great camera I, and I invested in ring lights because Hello you got to make sure that you've got good lighting, so I have my own studio set up your and so, and the reason why I do that.00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:30.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is the same exact reason why, when I see red and gold I think mcdonald's when I see you know purple and white, I think fedex so.00:19:32.730 --> 00:19:36.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because i'm doing a lot of auditions.00:19:37.470 --> 00:19:47.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And a lot of times it's the same casting companies, the same casting directors, because they have a lot of clients so i'm in front of.00:19:48.990 --> 00:20:06.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I could, I could probably name off six or seven casting directors or casting agencies that i'm in front of probably once a week and, for me, I want there to be this consistent brand about myself when they when they see me because that first round of auditions.00:20:07.770 --> 00:20:10.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I mean that's the make it or break it really I mean you're.00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:18.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just like with anybody in any business you got about i'd say 1015 seconds.00:20:19.530 --> 00:20:27.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they've already made their decision about 10 or 15 seconds, the other 45 seconds of your minute long audition is either to screw it up.00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:36.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Or to just validate what their initial feeling was Okay, and so that first round of auditions.00:20:36.570 --> 00:20:43.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of times the casting directors, have a lot more to say a lot more advice to give to their clients on that first round.00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:48.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Then, when it comes to the actual booking because at the end of the day, you're going to get you're going to get booked or you're not going to get booked.00:20:49.290 --> 00:21:00.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But you need to get you you got to be in the game in order to get bored and a big part of that is when you audition you've got a casting director that sitting there with their client.00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:11.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's like oh this Kevin Barbara he's been in front of us a lot of times he's booked a lot of gigs with us very professional you know, this is, you know he's willing to shave whatever it is.00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:24.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So when they see my audition once they asked for some specific, this is exactly what they see every time and then I just act out whatever it is that I got to act out but it's a consistent brand for myself.00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:37.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And like I said, maybe it doesn't work for everybody, but it is part of this overall perception and the other thing too is like I said last week, making sure that I always look like my headshot.00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:43.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And a big part of that is making sure that i'm staying on top of of my hair make sure there's groomed.00:21:44.190 --> 00:22:03.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And that is cut because cut tell you, but I didn't really get all this when I first got into acting because you know, obviously, keep an acting from scratch, you know, and I remember going on an audition one time I forget what it was, for, but it was in New York City and I had kind of so.00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:10.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had a survival job and my survival job was I was driving black car service my buddies.00:22:11.970 --> 00:22:18.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Black car limousine service and and I was working at it cat rescue anyway.00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:28.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And this is this actually led to me starting my own companies one company, and then it branched off became companies, but a.00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:45.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: big thing was that, when I had my survival job and a lot of actors in New York, they get sucked into this or a lot of artists in general, you get sucked into you need to eat right, you need the money you need the survival job that's what's keeping you going to paying your rent.00:22:46.590 --> 00:22:54.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And what ends up happening inevitably this happens, everybody happy to meet happens every you start making sacrifices.00:22:55.980 --> 00:23:03.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For the survival job and what you're sacrificing is your own dream your own goals your own career.00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:12.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because you keep your it's this vicious cycle you just keep going it's like well I, I have to make the sacrifice I you know and you're missing auditions or you're.00:23:13.830 --> 00:23:27.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know you're not able to put the time in and and really a big part of me and my branding is making sure that i'm always fit and making sure you know, I say that I look a certain way, well, I can tell you, like me, like five years ago, I had a real.00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:34.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A real humbling awakening you know, like I I was in.00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:49.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was twofold one was I went to an audition and like I said I don't remember what it was, but it's irrelevant, because what happened was as soon as I walked in there, the girl who was casting said oh.00:23:51.090 --> 00:23:52.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You don't look like your headshot.00:23:53.790 --> 00:24:01.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I I didn't even know what to say, because in my head, I thought that I did you know I mean.00:24:03.690 --> 00:24:14.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The way I perceive myself was obviously way different than what was the real reality of it and and my only response was yeah I do.00:24:14.730 --> 00:24:28.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But what else, am I gonna say you know no it's me, you know, but I kind of let myself go, you know I kind of you know, gain probably 15 balance, because I was just constantly you know.00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:45.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: making sacrifices wasn't working out as much my hair gotten long, and you know I wasn't keeping up with it and and these kinds of things and so that was kind of the first kicker, then the other kick was up, I was dating I was dating an ex girlfriend.00:24:46.470 --> 00:24:57.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: who lived in another state, and I went to visit now she was younger than me, of course, anybody that knows my story man knows I primarily do younger women whatever.00:24:58.410 --> 00:25:17.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm an actor man right so anyway i'm visiting her and we go to a concert right we go to this concert and we're it's general admission so we're just got a package and we're kind of show that in pushing and I mean i'm actually you know i'm kind of a.00:25:18.300 --> 00:25:28.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't know what the right word is but I i'm a nice guy, of course, but I mean I can be assertive if I need to and i'm not afraid of confrontation.00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:41.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so we ended up I ended up kind of getting in like a little bit of an argument with with this person because they just you know constantly running into us or whatever so anyway.00:25:41.670 --> 00:25:53.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: long story short, the girl says something that man it hit like a dagger and she turned to my girlfriend at the time and said.00:25:54.570 --> 00:25:56.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: She says what did you.00:25:57.630 --> 00:26:07.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: She says what did you bring your dad oh yeah i'd be like I can't even tell you like how brutal that.00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:09.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So anyway.00:26:11.490 --> 00:26:21.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That coupled with right along that same time I you know I end up having this I usually say I don't look like my head shot so, then I had to completely rethink about.00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:38.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What am I, I mean what what perception of my giving up what is my brand you know what what I because I have to start really focusing on running my my life as a business and.00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:49.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One big Board of that was you know, obviously just working hard getting back in shape and and and actually I had actually invested in.00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:58.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Getting somebody to give me advice in terms of my look and we can talk about this in a minute, when we come back, but.00:26:59.040 --> 00:27:06.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that this is important, I think it's important if you're just a businessman, you need to find somebody to help you, with your branding.00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:22.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All right, as a coach you need to have coaches that you respect that that aren't afraid to tell you the truth, right and I tell you which one here, we all got plenty of those people, so I actually invest, and I say you know what.00:27:24.510 --> 00:27:27.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What would be the best version of me physically.00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:44.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And how can I achieve that, and that was probably the best money i've ever spent was on figuring that out i'll talk more about it in a minute on given Barbara you're listening to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:37.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everyone to coffee talk XL i'm Kevin bar road you're listening on talk radio dot nyc.00:30:37.800 --> 00:30:50.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just a quick plug if you want to follow me on other forms of social media, you can always follow me on instagram at Kevin bobrow acting or you can follow me on Twitter at just barbro acting.00:30:51.540 --> 00:30:58.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: where you can follow me on Facebook just type in Kevin barbro or Kevin Barbara productions and you'd be able to link in like the fan page and.00:30:59.580 --> 00:31:06.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That we can always keep updated on what's going on in in my role, not just my acting career, but also my.00:31:07.110 --> 00:31:11.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: production company my concert production company we're going to talk a little bit about music industry here in a minute.00:31:12.300 --> 00:31:20.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: or my live event sports company called kb sports or Rockies rescue and my mind trap neuter release Program.00:31:21.060 --> 00:31:32.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so follow me on social media and you'll be kept up to speed here and then join me every Tuesday night of course at eight o'clock but getting back to the whole branding and investing in yourself.00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:34.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know.00:31:36.210 --> 00:31:40.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had to restart my life, I had to restart from scratch.00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:46.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had built up such a great career in coaching.00:31:48.060 --> 00:32:03.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it all came tumbling down my own fall, as I mentioned a million times and I can be honest with myself and take 100% responsibility for it, ending and having to start from scratch.00:32:04.560 --> 00:32:13.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The thing that motivated me the most because a lot of people are faced with adversity, I mean we're coming out of a pandemic man world is faced with adversity.00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:26.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of companies have shut down a lot of businesses have shut down people lost their jobs, whether it's from the pandemic or or just life in general, I mean people all the time after restart their life.00:32:27.810 --> 00:32:28.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:31.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What do you do.00:32:32.490 --> 00:32:39.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: How you going to accomplish this because your whole life you've only done this other thing, whatever that is well for me.00:32:40.830 --> 00:33:00.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What motivated me all the time, was the fact that I told myself that let's life is a to act place, sometimes even more than life is at least the to play, and you need to approach each day and approach your new career, or what you would like to do with this.00:33:01.770 --> 00:33:11.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This controlled chaos this reckless abandon but you're you got to be fearless you have to be fearless you have to go all in.00:33:12.750 --> 00:33:17.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You can't halfway it because it's your life and no one is going to.00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:28.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: care about you more than you, you know, so you you the thing that motivated me every day was I wasn't going to be defined by my worst one.00:33:29.430 --> 00:33:42.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was going to be judged in life by the body of work that I present after the full lifetime and i'll be judged based on that and every day.00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:50.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As I move forward in all of my businesses, and in my acting career i'm very conscious of the perception that I give them.00:33:51.570 --> 00:34:06.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What is my brand who are you every business, you should be thinking this and you know, like I said I ain't investment you can't be a frequent visitor, so I invested in a meeting with a stylist.00:34:07.560 --> 00:34:26.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Right, I mean at the end of the day, i've got to be appealing I gotta have curb appeal, and you know, one of the questions that I had because I I see as an example, I see actors, all the time male actors that particularly male actors that are my age they're middle aged or more.00:34:27.600 --> 00:34:29.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they die they're here.00:34:31.080 --> 00:34:33.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: bro I mean I.00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:51.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't judge people manny that's where you want to roll this we were on role, but in my opinion, is just my opinion you have to embrace who you are embrace that you know embrace the grey baby right because you are that old and know you're not fooling anybody.00:34:52.560 --> 00:35:00.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: By dying your hair jet black, not a single Gray here and you're 60 something years old, it just ain't gonna happen, you know so.00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:07.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Things like this because I asked style, so what you know i'm starting to get a little Gray, what do you think let it go.00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:25.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just like let it go man, I mean it is, it is who you are embrace it, you know so anyway moving forward and and we'll touch more on these things in coming weeks, as I want to start talking about one of the other aspects of my life which music industry.00:35:26.700 --> 00:35:29.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And and coming out of the pandemic and whatnot but.00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My advice to anybody go for it.00:35:34.530 --> 00:35:41.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: challenge yourself believe in yourself gamble on yourself don't be afraid of failure because.00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:50.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're probably going to fail, that for me i'm not gonna i'm not going again to go to be your your fail, a lot, but you know Those are the things you're going to remember you remember the winds.00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:58.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But talking about the music industry because I own Kevin Barbara productions given Barbara productions is a live.00:35:59.670 --> 00:36:22.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: event company and we specialize are two branches kb productions which specializes in live music or performing arts and then kb sports, which obviously specializes in in athletics okay so right now we are coming out of the pandemic with the music industry and.00:36:24.300 --> 00:36:37.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I tell you a little story about where i'm at because I know that I have musicians and artists typically musicians that and other agents and and promoters that listen to the show one of the things that.00:36:38.700 --> 00:36:40.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We have to understand.00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the music industry right now is that.00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:47.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're all in this together.00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:57.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there's got to be a lot of give and take here Otherwise, what did we learn it all from the pandemic, you know.00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:14.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'll tell you what happened so back in March to 2020 this is when obviously the old world shut down, we were we were getting ready to do a concert at the royal palace in Texas, which my company helps to run with the manson family.00:37:15.720 --> 00:37:26.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it was I want to say was the Monday of concert week, so we were supposed to have a concert, on Friday, the 13th okay.00:37:27.690 --> 00:37:28.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:32.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On Monday or Tuesday of that week.00:37:33.240 --> 00:37:38.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Now ticket sales have been going slow honestly and slower than expected.00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:46.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What can we do, because obviously people were afraid at that point, there was so much uncertainty about what was going on, I call up the Agency.00:37:48.090 --> 00:37:49.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, I say listen, you know.00:37:50.850 --> 00:38:05.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that we need to reschedule this and push this back, because at that time, I want to say it was like a Tuesday the ncaa cancelled march madness.00:38:07.050 --> 00:38:08.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Once that happened.00:38:10.230 --> 00:38:15.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Coming from athletics all those years right and being as a double a division one head coach two decades right.00:38:17.610 --> 00:38:22.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Let me tell you some the ncaa nonprofit, as they say.00:38:24.810 --> 00:38:28.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It needs men's and women's particularly men's basketball, more than anything.00:38:29.310 --> 00:38:48.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, because that is that's the cash cow, that is, the honey hole for the entire ncaa more than football, more than anything else it's basketball and their TV contracts and etc with march madness and the final four once they canceled that I was like.00:38:50.220 --> 00:38:54.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Man something big is going to happen, so I call it the Agency right.00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: not going to say what agency, it is, and I can see what what artists, it was whatever but.00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:05.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The agent literally starts cussing me out.00:39:06.270 --> 00:39:18.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: he's like man if that you know you guys 95% of our shows are still going to happen, you just don't you just want to cancel it because of the ticket sales are doing well.00:39:18.990 --> 00:39:26.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Or you want to reschedule because I said listen man dude i'm not i'm not just making this up, or we didn't invent.00:39:27.270 --> 00:39:40.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: coronavirus we didn't invent the ncaa just assigning they're going to cancel everything I think there's something something huge is happening here we need be ahead of the game so reluctantly they reschedule it.00:39:41.430 --> 00:39:48.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: After I mean serious they weren't willing to work with us, but then finally there's okay we'll reschedule it.00:39:51.180 --> 00:39:57.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One day later, everything is cancelled and within a week, the entire world is shut down right.00:39:58.770 --> 00:40:01.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So what's happened now is that.00:40:02.850 --> 00:40:09.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All of those artists all of those venues, they all stopped working.00:40:10.740 --> 00:40:20.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And this is a tremendous number of people, and this is a tremendous amount of money it wasn't just that it wasn't just music and the performing arts either that we're talking about.00:40:21.150 --> 00:40:23.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: sports world as well and.00:40:24.630 --> 00:40:38.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: part of what our company does is we run like I said, with the man cell family we run 9000 capacity concert wide event venue in Tyler texts use texts and.00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:42.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When you go dark.00:40:43.410 --> 00:40:52.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As a venue and as a promoter for, but particularly as a venue those bills are still coming in, you still have.00:40:53.940 --> 00:41:11.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All of those bills all of the the taxes everything the bills are still going to come there's zero revenue coming in and what happened now is and the thing that people have to understand in the music industry and artists have to understand this.00:41:12.210 --> 00:41:18.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know i'll talk more when we come back here in a minute, but the thing you understand if there's no venues.00:41:19.290 --> 00:41:31.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there's no promoters, there is no tour, there is no music industry because the venues, and the independent promoters like myself.00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:50.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We are the only ones, assuming all the risk we are the only ones, putting ourselves out there i'm the one who is going on the nut for $100,000 hoping to breakeven and in a best case scenario turn a profit through ticket sales and.00:41:51.300 --> 00:42:07.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: No venues know promoters know tours know concerts musicians will still exist, you know agencies will still exist but it's really it's the it's we're the ones that are going on the nut for everything and.00:42:09.030 --> 00:42:22.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Unfortunately, I think that that's kind of lost on some of the artists and some of the agencies, you know I i'm getting ready to promote a concert here in a couple of weeks and.00:42:24.330 --> 00:42:41.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I haven't asked for a reduction, the negotiation for this contract was way before the pandemic and it's a lot of money and we may not break even on this one and but because hey it's a contract i'm going to honor it, you know we're going to follow through but.00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:51.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When we come back from the break i'm going to tell you just how ridiculous it gets in this world in the music industry and how people just aren't learning.00:42:51.390 --> 00:43:00.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: From what we just went through that we have to be in this together i'm Kevin Barbara be back in a minute, this is coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:45:15.210 --> 00:45:33.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hi everybody welcome back to coffee talk XL here on talk radio dot nyc we're in our final segment of this week's show and again make sure that you tune in every Tuesday night eight o'clock Eastern live here on talk radio dot nyc or Facebook slash talk radio and I see so.00:45:34.860 --> 00:45:37.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're getting ready to promote a concert right.00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:42.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And and, and this is, this is where I think that there's a disconnect.00:45:43.710 --> 00:45:59.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the music industry right so obviously the artists need to make money, obviously I mean if it's their craft it's their music, they need to make money and I get that i'm willing to pay a fair market value, of course, but i'm i'm willing to pay.00:46:00.630 --> 00:46:07.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: them and guarantee them a certain amount of money, no matter what, even if I got to reach in my own pocket I gotta pay it right.00:46:10.080 --> 00:46:14.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then from that the agencies are going to make money.00:46:15.090 --> 00:46:30.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, so they're getting a percentage of what i'm paying out, you know that's that that's how it works okay their management, they get a cut of that also they get a cut of this money my money right so i'm the one putting the money out there as promoted.00:46:31.350 --> 00:46:32.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As a venue.00:46:34.080 --> 00:46:50.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If if we're doing shows at the oil palace, we are the venue so we have a variety of ways that we can make that money back obviously we're trying to sell tickets that obviously that's the number one way right, but if you're the venue.00:46:52.080 --> 00:46:56.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like we are when we do shows the old house where the venue then.00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:05.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're making money off of the parking, of course, we were making money off of like the facility fee or making money off of the bar clearly.00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:12.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we're making money off of concessions right, so we have it's called ancillary so we have ancillary money coming in.00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:20.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To try to cover the money that we're spending on not just the artist, but sound and lights, which is expensive.00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:34.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and advertising, obviously, and then you got other things like catering and you've got Labor and everything else, so all of these expenses added up together i've got to be able to cover all of that.00:47:34.650 --> 00:47:40.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Through the ticket sales or as the venue through these other ancillary things, but when i'm just the promoter.00:47:42.210 --> 00:47:53.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's not at the old back so i'm doing a five concert series at the north charleston Coliseum and for performing arts Center in 2022 it's going to be five different.00:47:55.080 --> 00:48:03.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: really well known successful tributes and those do great in the performing arts centers and particularly in a place like North charleston.00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:12.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And where's a lot of retirement communities and a lot of older money and they go to they go to shows you know so.00:48:12.810 --> 00:48:22.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anyway, when i'm when i'm writing that facility i'm i'm on the night for the rent the Labor the sound and lights.00:48:22.740 --> 00:48:32.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: uh the artists themselves and the advertising that that all of that I am the only money I got coming in, the only money that i'm entitled to.00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:45.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is the ticket sales that's it, I have to make my money on the ticket sales if I don't make my money on the ticket sales but don't sell enough tickets i'm in the hall, because the artist is guaranteed a certain amount of money and so.00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:55.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: what's happened, right now, as I see it, you know as I live in in this in this environment, now we don't know.00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:02.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If people are going to go out, I mean we assume that people are eager and they want to go out and they want to see.00:49:02.430 --> 00:49:14.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Live events we're live sporting events or or or live music performing arts We assume that the problem is every state is different, so in Texas wide open like coronavirus never even existed.00:49:15.540 --> 00:49:27.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: California is pretty much still in the same exact same place, that they were 14 months ago where everything is just locked down and you can't do any shows you can't do anything and so.00:49:28.890 --> 00:49:38.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: We don't know as we move forward what kind of crowds we're even going to be able to have even at full capacity, do we even think that do even know.00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:54.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that people are going to go out in such numbers, so that we can make our money back so as we move forward, we really have to as promoters and the artists have to understand this what you were getting for money before coven.00:49:56.190 --> 00:50:00.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So there's before coven and then there's after code okay.00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're not going to get the same offer.00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:18.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As you were before, because now there's too many uncertainties and we we potentially have social distancing in the theaters we ticket caps, you know you have to understand that, like that's the way it is so we're getting ready to do this concert.00:50:19.980 --> 00:50:27.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, of course, they you know we're still paying what we had agreed to pay to which was pre coated price for the artists that we're dealing with.00:50:28.830 --> 00:50:43.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And in our world right musicians have a writer our ideal every musician is got a writer Okay, you have a contract and then you ever right okay you're a writer.00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:54.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Are your what the contract is this, this is how much everyone's getting this is how its laid out the rider comes from the artist and they give it to the promoter.00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:01.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And that's their their well they call them needs but really what they are wants right so.00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:20.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Sometimes it's not much hey you know i'd like to have dinner for my crew and me two hours beforehand, can you make sure that there's you know, a dozen black towels you know these kinds of things sometimes it gets outrageous like what i'm doing right now right so.00:51:21.870 --> 00:51:23.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Get the writer and.00:51:24.930 --> 00:51:29.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: there's ridiculous stuff I mean it six bottles of tito's you know.00:51:30.930 --> 00:51:45.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: they're asking for like four cases, if you were just like six Dudes right a sick vegan meals blah blah blah, I mean the writer just, and so I said listen, I talked to to manage right.00:51:46.740 --> 00:52:01.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: any way we can kind of you know scale this back a little bit I mean i'm assuming that you made this before coven existed and straight up these Dudes would not bend on they would not been done.00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:03.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:10.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So i'm thinking about this one i'm venting here on my show it's my show all back if i'm watching that.00:52:13.980 --> 00:52:22.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: everybody's got to understand who is taking on all the risk here, and if you're an artist.00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:31.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you want to continue to get booked and you want to continue to get gigs you've got to be flexible man you've got you've got to understand yeah.00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:44.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I get that you have a minimum that you'll work for it, I get that i'm an artist man i'm a i'm an actor there's a minimum amount of money that that I have to make or i'm going to turn a gig down.00:52:45.030 --> 00:52:55.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If I can make a certain number of dollars in a day and then i'm going to you know net after my expenses if it's an answer about i'd rather not do.00:52:56.370 --> 00:53:08.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because i'm at the point where any money isn't good money sometimes i'm better off just concentrating on spending the day on on one of my other companies than my acting right.00:53:09.630 --> 00:53:15.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I get that there's a certain amount of money that you want to make okay.00:53:16.830 --> 00:53:25.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there's a certain amount you got to pay your band you got to pay travel you got whatever it is right, so and you need to turn a profit fish you're not doing this is a charity and you're not.00:53:26.550 --> 00:53:37.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: doing it to breakeven we're not in the business of breaking even right, so I give what that is but, but now I see where we have to offer a fair price.00:53:37.860 --> 00:53:45.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A fair guaranteed where no matter what, even if I sell one ticket i'm going to pay you X amount of dollars X amount of thousands of dollars right.00:53:46.170 --> 00:53:57.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then work in a bonus structure so that, over the course of the bonus structure, you have an opportunity to not only make what you would have made if it was just a lump sum.00:53:59.100 --> 00:54:14.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But make even more because I mean i'm not reading it, as we make more money, you should make more money you're the artist, and I mean, and so I see that it is going to go in and i'm telling you right now, like as a venue.00:54:15.660 --> 00:54:30.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: or countless millions or less fortunate millions of dollars right, I was bleeding 20 grand a month early on in the pandemic out of that out of my pocket gone, never to be seen again right.00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:35.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So, as the ones that are taking the risk.00:54:36.630 --> 00:54:47.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All we're saying is to the agencies and to the artists recognize the fact that we've been losing money for the last 14 months and.00:54:48.750 --> 00:54:56.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're still willing to take on this risk i'm still willing to gamble you if you're a concert promoter you're a gamble.00:54:56.910 --> 00:55:06.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: me there's no other way to put it man you're a gambler you're no different of a gambler than anybody that's at a casino right now, because you're booting up.00:55:06.900 --> 00:55:18.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Sometimes over $100,000 sometimes even more right in hopes of just at least breaking even and so to the artists out there hey man dude.00:55:19.560 --> 00:55:26.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You got to work with the promoters you got to work with the venues and you've got to be willing to come down a little bit so you still make a profit.00:55:27.120 --> 00:55:38.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But work on these sliding scales and these bonus structures so that we can all make money we can all get back to getting live performance live performing arts and live music back in front of people.00:55:38.910 --> 00:55:49.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: will talk more about it next week join me every Tuesday 8pm for coffee talk XL i'm Kevin boardroom and you're watching or listening on talk radio dot nyc.

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1If you follow him on social media, you know that recently Kevin found a cat who mothered kittens.  She lives in a lumber yard and has hidden her kittens. He provides updates on their progress assisting the cats. Last week Kevin's production company, KBProductions, hosted a concert at The Oil Palace. Was going to drive out but due to the gas shortage in the Southeast Kevin was unable to fill up his car.SEGMENT 2Before acting, Kevin was a NCAA Division 1 coach for years. Unfortunately he lost his job, his house, and it was a very public fall. He went to California to see his friend __ who is a PR specialist. During his last night there __ asked him what his next move was. Kevin decided that he wanted to become an actor and __ encouraged him. When he got back to Ohio he talked to Wendy, Starbound, and discovered Katie Holmes. Kevin took the advice that he once provided to his athletes, you can't just have one foot in, you have to be all in. He packed his car and drove to New York City where he lived in his car.SEGMENT 3Kevin made a vow and gave him three years to progress his career as an actor and a businessman. He got a job working with a cat rescue and as a black car driver. When he wasn't working, Kevin spent his days auditioning and taking acting classes. He would also listen to the advice of many notable actors, advice about the business side of acting. Kevin refused to be a background actor or an extra. While he has no problem with those roles it was not what he wanted to do. It was a bold choice and challenging but it's what he wanted. Kevin shares a notable audition experience.SEGMENT 4In order to get roles Kevin believed that he should become the best version of what they are looking for. He had to embrace who he is as an actor and identify his brand. For him this meant considering the roles that he would fit into and change his style to something more flattering for him. Once he made a greater investment to his appearance, his brand, and some better headshots Kevin saw real progress.TRANSCRIPT00:00:40.710 --> 00:00:56.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey good evening everybody and welcome back to coffee talk XL i'm Kevin barbro and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc or you're watching me live right now on facebook.com slash talk radio nyc and.00:00:57.690 --> 00:01:07.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: going to talk a little bit about my story and the business of acting and just kind of how I got into acting and.00:01:08.070 --> 00:01:22.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: With no experience no connections no training no anything almost 10 years ago now, and it built up my career to where now i'm i'm i've been in over 150 commercials and.00:01:22.890 --> 00:01:34.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of print ads and and TV shows and feature films, and all this kind of stuff and have representation, now I earned my membership into the.00:01:34.740 --> 00:01:41.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: screen actors Guild and all of these things kind of snowballed and we're going to talk about that story tonight and hopefully.00:01:42.060 --> 00:01:47.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: There are things to learn from it, whether you want to be an actor or there's friends of mine that are currently.00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:55.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Either new to the business or they're in the business and they're trying to establish themselves or maybe you're just sitting there thinking man do.00:01:56.250 --> 00:02:00.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think I like being an actor man and this might be a way for you to.00:02:01.020 --> 00:02:10.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: get some knowledge out of me and and and play it forward here for you as well as whether you're just in business, you know business or athletics, I mean I came from athletics.00:02:11.550 --> 00:02:23.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there's a lot of the correlations between my athletic career my coaching career and now me as an actor and he is a businessman because i've been able to parlay.00:02:24.210 --> 00:02:38.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Myself into owning three different companies now and so that's what we're gonna be talking about I do want to touch on a couple of things big shout out and thank you to Jeff perlman who was my guest last week, you can see that.00:02:39.690 --> 00:02:50.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: archive video if you go to facebook.com slash talk radio nyc, which is the talking alternative broadcasting network, which is what we're on right now.00:02:51.210 --> 00:03:07.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You can see that video, and you can get his books, particularly his his latest books off of Amazon and but the book, we talked about was football for a buck, which talked about Donald trump and the US fl and how that.00:03:08.730 --> 00:03:15.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Marriage ended horribly so I also want to give everybody an update if you've been following me.00:03:16.620 --> 00:03:31.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I, you know that I started my own animal rescue so rocky's rescue we talked about it last week on last week's show, and if you've been following me, you also saw that not only did we have our first.00:03:32.250 --> 00:03:46.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Foster adopted out tiger music male cat, but we also located a straight female that had some kittens by so i'm i'm partners in one or two partners in a construction company, we have a warehouse.00:03:47.250 --> 00:03:58.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: outside of myrtle beach out your coastal Carolina university and we actually were outside and this mama cackles walking across and she got a kitten in her mouth.00:03:58.950 --> 00:04:11.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, basically long story short, we can't get to the kids, but we know that she's got him hidden, and so what we've been doing is I actually took a.00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:23.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: kennel and an actual dog kennel smaller dog kennel took the door office, so that it's just always open we hit it under some trees so there's some covering there's some shade.00:04:23.730 --> 00:04:30.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because man it gets hot and South Carolina tongue right now and we put a towel in there and we put some food, water, so anyway.00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If you were following me on social media, then you already saw some of this but.00:04:34.890 --> 00:04:42.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The good news is that the, it seems as though that a mama cat and the kittens are still safe they've actually she's actually hid themselves.00:04:43.140 --> 00:04:52.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In a lumberyard right right next to where we live, but we don't I can't go in there and I don't even want to alert the people that are at the lumberyard the people to own that lumber yard.00:04:53.370 --> 00:04:57.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because i'm afraid that they're not going to be as compassionate as we are so we're just going to leave where they're at.00:04:58.350 --> 00:05:08.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But we put food, water out for and she's been going back and forth and eating all the food and then going back and course and taking care of and feeding the the kitten so.00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:16.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's continuing on it, if it goes much longer i'm probably going to end up naming this gap i'm not bringing home just got six kids but.00:05:17.010 --> 00:05:28.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What we're going to do is once we've passed, like the six week period and hopefully we can locate a way to get the kittens and the cat out of there without alerting people from the lumberyard.00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:37.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're going to take her and we'll get her speed and actually and get her shots get her tested for HIV leukemia.00:05:37.830 --> 00:05:43.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And either adopter out doesn't look like she's friendly, but if she's not friendly, which is disease free then we're going to just.00:05:44.220 --> 00:05:54.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: put it right back where she was and she just take care of her kittens and and and maybe adopt them out so again, this will in all likelihood be friendly right right out of the gates here so.00:05:55.320 --> 00:06:02.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anyway, that's just a little update on what's going on with rocky's rescue and Chris did we last week.00:06:03.180 --> 00:06:18.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So one of my companies that I own is a live event production company, and so we do live concerts that's Kevin Barbara productions and we also do live sporting events that's kV sports separate company and.00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:27.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Last week we had a huge concert that was going to be taking place or that did take place on Saturday at the royal palace which.00:06:28.320 --> 00:06:37.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you'll hear me talk about a lot it's a it's a there's always an adventure at the old Palace and it's owned by the man's family that's my partner.00:06:38.340 --> 00:06:46.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In that venture is Bobby manzo Bobby man's ld is the great uncle of Johnny manzo former.00:06:46.890 --> 00:06:56.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: heisman trophy winner, and so the he built the oil Palace well his dad started to build it that's a whole nother episode me talking about that entire story, but.00:06:57.210 --> 00:07:12.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was supposed to go out there, we had Google fear may, which is a Mexican band, that is, a Spanish or or Latin grammy winners and we had like 7000 people or something like this anyway, I was going to drive out.00:07:13.350 --> 00:07:16.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And crown apple and diet vs.00:07:19.350 --> 00:07:23.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I was going to drive out and leave on Wednesday now it's a bit of a hike but.00:07:24.330 --> 00:07:32.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anybody that knows me knows that I am not afraid of road trip I travel all the time i'll drive 1000 miles doesn't.00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:45.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Make even one bit of difference in a matter of fact i'll drive thousand miles I don't even have the radio I won't even listen to music, I can just figure out my life and world peace in that thousand miles, but I probably drive about.00:07:47.220 --> 00:08:05.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Man, I want to say I drive 50,000 miles a year and I fly about 150,000 miles a year so i'm constantly on the go anyway, I was going to drive out and in the southeast there was a gas shortage, as everybody unless you've been living under a rock you know that.00:08:06.570 --> 00:08:23.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: There was a hack and they held it the data for ransom and shut down the pen pipeline and the entire southeast for the most part, all the way up to Virginia almost a DC were there was a massive shortage gas well.00:08:24.210 --> 00:08:33.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I live in a resort town and I couldn't even I couldn't even you guess at one point on Wednesday or Tuesday of last week.00:08:34.530 --> 00:08:42.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: There was in the city of myrtle beach where the metropolitan area myrtle beach, there were zero gas stations ahead gas zero.00:08:43.110 --> 00:08:57.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So here I am i'm thinking man i'm going to drive out to the oil palace, and I can't even gas up here in town so scratch that idea of going to fly right so by ticket last minute.00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:08.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I actually this is gonna sound ridiculous but it's just me and the way I live my life, I made the decision and i'm going to talk about similar decisions like this.00:09:09.150 --> 00:09:21.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: With my acting career and whatnot but I made the decision business wise over a year ago, almost two years ago now that I am going to fly first class okay now.00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:34.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Part of it, particularly during coven I was like if i'm going to fly them and flying first class, because then he got more space i'm only back at one person talks a lot of times it's one and two, and so I can just get the one seat on the side.00:09:35.520 --> 00:09:37.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But you also get you know free luggage you give.00:09:38.880 --> 00:09:48.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Priority seating priority ticketing and and and things like this, so there are benefits and PS those people that haven't flown first class.00:09:49.560 --> 00:09:56.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's the only part of the plane, this still gets service never server so you still get your free drinks.00:09:57.030 --> 00:10:05.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: in first class you still not only to get free drinks, but they give you food and everything else still and so anyway, I get my ticket.00:10:06.660 --> 00:10:14.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And dude it's it's a 800 and something dollars and i'm like okay well it's not I mean it's not terrible but it's but it's not.00:10:15.060 --> 00:10:29.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: ideal regardless get the ticket supposed to fly out on Friday conscious on Saturday Friday I only rent from a service, and I only fly on American Airlines Okay, because these were all my points go anyway.00:10:31.980 --> 00:10:33.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I get an email from avis.00:10:35.100 --> 00:10:47.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: say they had to cancel my reservation for my rental car on Friday, because they have zero rental cars and we're not just talking at this we're talking every.00:10:48.540 --> 00:10:57.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: rental car company in the entire State of Texas any major or Houston Dallas but to airports in Dallas where there's two airports in Houston.00:10:59.370 --> 00:11:08.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Even tree for no rental cars is a massive shortage of rental cars out there, in addition to being a massive shorter gas out there.00:11:09.060 --> 00:11:18.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So then i'm going to fly, so I can't I can't find a Dallas i'm flying to Tyler, which is where the oil balances and in East Texas halfway between Dallas and report.00:11:19.500 --> 00:11:26.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: switch my ticket to that it's over like I don't know 1200 bucks or something like this at this point and i'm only on standby.00:11:26.820 --> 00:11:30.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: long story short, but i've actually i'm not really making it that short but.00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:41.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't even get to go out to it, I feel terrible because part of our business to help them run these large concerts over 7000 people packed in there and.00:11:42.180 --> 00:11:57.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, Texas, like a different world man, you talk about Kobe and talk about safety and crowd sizes Yes, some states that have been opened up at all, yet some areas are some say Texas just said, you know what.00:11:58.680 --> 00:12:11.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: let's just have that let's just pretend like it never even existed, and so in Texas, you can you can have live concerts you can have live sporting events and everything else and and full capacity.00:12:11.880 --> 00:12:18.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They don't make you wear masks they don't make your social distance and oddly enough, oddly enough, I don't know how this is even possible.00:12:19.470 --> 00:12:29.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But since they went full Open they've still had this massive decrease in the number of covert guests, I can't even wrap my head around it anyway.00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:40.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That was my week man that was my weekend that's just a typical week in in my life, but when we come back we're going to take our first commercial break here in a second, and when we come back.00:12:41.070 --> 00:12:49.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to be talking with you about and take you on a journey through my acting career, from the time that I decided, I was going to be an actor.00:12:50.070 --> 00:13:01.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To you know struggling through it in the beginning and and the lessons that I learned and how I continue to adapt myself and adapt my career and put.00:13:02.130 --> 00:13:08.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know limitations on what i'm willing to work, for you know I I I determine my value.00:13:08.670 --> 00:13:14.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And these are great lessons free for anyone, whether you want to be an actor or it's just business or athletics, or whatever it is.00:13:14.400 --> 00:13:25.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we're going to start that little journey you're going to go on with me here in just a couple of minutes and we'll be right back this is coffee talk XL i'm Kevin oral and you're listening to talk radio dot nyc.00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:34.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everyone to coffee talk xml i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc so little bit about me i'm going to give you a little reader's digest version here of my.00:16:35.310 --> 00:16:53.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My entry into the world of acting and how it's kind of evolved over the years here, and you know a lot of the decisions that I made and the lessons I learned from just a business standpoint to make it happen so long story short and.00:16:54.600 --> 00:17:07.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: let's start in that in the beginning, so I used to college, I was an nc double a division one coach for 22 years was actually the only real job real career i'd ever had I I was you know I I was.00:17:08.490 --> 00:17:20.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was a really good coach I mean I want a lot of you know, coach of the year award winning championships and a lot of will rank runners and and nationally ranked runners nationally ranked teams and, unfortunately.00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:33.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Things went belly up and that's a whole nother episode, but when things went belly up they really went belly up like I ended up losing not only my job I ended up losing my career.00:17:34.380 --> 00:17:49.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: lost everything lost my house lost everything, and so, and it was public, it was a kind of an espn type thing and Yahoo, sports and everything else so anyway, needless to say, all of this goes down like a decade ago and.00:17:51.420 --> 00:18:06.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I go out to California, so my best friend in the world is my buddy rob Warren we call them Kramer also and rob actually is a music aficionado he's actually gonna be one of my guests your next week we're gonna be talking about the rock and roll hall of fame but.00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:13.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I go out to this place got a cool place out in Davis California he's got a great gig as a PR specialist.00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:16.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He was like national PR.00:18:17.850 --> 00:18:26.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: administrator of the year for veterinary hospitals around the country and he's a uc Davis, one of the best institutions in the world for veterinary medicine.00:18:26.610 --> 00:18:38.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And he actually has it built in his home, which is really cool I hope we can see it when he's on the show he built an Irish pub in his house for no other reason that he could.00:18:39.450 --> 00:18:48.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So that is please I actually took the train all the way across the country, so I take the Amtrak from New York, all the way out to.00:18:49.500 --> 00:18:59.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: California, it was a great trip i'm telling you if you have time on your hands, you want to see America dude take the train across country very cool.00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:17.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I get out to California i'm there for like a week and just kind of let the dust settle and trying to decide, you know what it is i'm going to do so anyway last night that up there were sitting around the the we call it Nick Kramer the the Irish pub in his house and he's like dude.00:19:19.650 --> 00:19:23.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What are you going to do man like what's the what's the plan down.00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:27.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I sat there for a second I was like.00:19:28.830 --> 00:19:30.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude, let me tell you, let me tell you.00:19:31.800 --> 00:19:33.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're going to think that i'm crazy.00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:35.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I said but.00:19:37.230 --> 00:19:38.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to be an accurate man.00:19:39.630 --> 00:19:41.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to be an actor i'm going to be like.00:19:42.420 --> 00:19:51.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I want to be like a legit actor, not just somebody that you know, is in the background, see me neither I want to be that guy I want to be, I want to be an actor.00:19:52.950 --> 00:19:56.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And he sat there for a second, then he looked at me and he said.00:19:58.170 --> 00:20:14.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't think that's crazy, you know, is a matter of fact you're just that guy you're that you're that guy you're the Center of attention guy you're the outgoing guy and and so that was the moment where decide this is what i'm going to do, and from that moment on.00:20:15.930 --> 00:20:20.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It literally I had no training i'd never been in anything before now.00:20:20.970 --> 00:20:30.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had because I was a coach and a successful coach and I was on national committee's three ncaa and these kinds of things i'm used to being in front of a lot of people.00:20:31.020 --> 00:20:46.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm used to giving speeches in front of a lot of people I had my own radio show coffee talk XL which we have now my fourth version coffee talk began on the radio back during my coaching career, and so I used to be in front of people.00:20:47.940 --> 00:21:00.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I had no idea how I was going to do it, I had no idea where to start or or how to even go about it so when what I ended up doing is I got back to Ohio and.00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:17.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had a mutual friend that new a woman by the name of Wendy Davis Wendy own star bound talent agency which is in Toledo Ohio That was all and they're also in Miami and in La they got a New York office.00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:30.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They actually discovered katie Holmes now katie Holmes is from Toledo Ohio went to Notre Dame academy right down the road from where I live, and so.00:21:31.530 --> 00:21:32.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I gotta just rest, you know.00:21:33.870 --> 00:21:35.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Maybe i'm crazy, I mean I don't know.00:21:37.020 --> 00:21:42.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If if if it's even possible I said, but you know i'd really like to be an actor.00:21:43.980 --> 00:21:44.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:21:45.870 --> 00:22:05.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, I just wanted to get your opinion, like what do you think you know so she said well just she gave me a mcdonald's commercial to memorize memorize this emotional and come back and i'm gonna have you acted out for me and and and i'll i'll just give him on spinning my sorry.00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:15.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I have it memorized it and then rehearsing I tried to imagine if it really was a commercial what it would look like you know.00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I go and I acted out.00:22:19.650 --> 00:22:20.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:22:21.600 --> 00:22:22.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: She says.00:22:23.520 --> 00:22:27.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That was really good, you know that was really believable and.00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:34.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You have kind of a unique look like a memorable look people are going to remember you after they see you kind of look.00:22:36.210 --> 00:22:43.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know little bit like woody harrelson I get all the time, but and innovations that you know I think this can happen so.00:22:44.100 --> 00:22:55.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I ended up getting cast because right now i'm getting cast in a commercial for Hollywood casinos that was going to air in the cities that Hollywood casino serene and.00:22:56.580 --> 00:23:11.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I started taking classes with her and started really kind of picking their brains and and and listening to not just how to act, but also how to go about doing it, how to how do, how do you even get an audition so.00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:27.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I end up making the decision, because at this point, I had lost everything when I when when my coaching career ended, I mean I didn't do anything you know crazy didn't do anything illegal this I just and I just screwed up, I was, I was unethical just being honest.00:23:28.350 --> 00:23:29.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so.00:23:30.990 --> 00:23:35.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I decided that i'm really going to go for them i'm going to you know i'm going to be online.00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:38.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And this is the first big decision right.00:23:40.110 --> 00:23:47.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When I was coaching all those years I would tell people all the time don't just say that you want to be good anybody can say.00:23:49.860 --> 00:23:56.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You got to live it you got to believe it, you have to be all in you can't have one foot in and one foot out.00:23:58.260 --> 00:24:03.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, taking my own advice I made the decision that.00:24:04.410 --> 00:24:10.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to be all in i'm going to i'm going to treat this like my acting career and I treat this like my coaching career.00:24:11.070 --> 00:24:20.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'm going to be all in i'm going to do everything that I can i'm going to do it the right way i'm not going to do anything to mess it up i'm not going to try to shortcut this but.00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:26.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to move to New York i'm going to live out of my car no exaggeration.00:24:27.540 --> 00:24:35.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had a chevy H HR which is kind of a box to your version of a PT cruiser the backseat went down in it.00:24:36.750 --> 00:24:41.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I literally had like a mattress that I had made.00:24:42.540 --> 00:25:03.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I had comforters and I pillows so like the back, half of this car was essentially a giant single bed, and then the other half of that with both seats down was where I would keep like my bags and my backpack and everything else, and I headed to New York City and I told myself that.00:25:04.590 --> 00:25:05.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: First of all.00:25:07.320 --> 00:25:17.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to audition for anything that I asked to on this side of the Mississippi I don't care if I got a drive to it, I don't care where it is.00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:20.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And at this time I don't really have.00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:34.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The knowledge in terms of how to go about getting the auditions like I knew that I needed to have a profile on the different casting networks, including casting networks.00:25:35.550 --> 00:25:45.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: my very first one that I got was on backstage and backstage for mostly for New York actors and, although it does work for other areas of the country, but it is a.00:25:45.780 --> 00:25:56.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: really big New York based casting website backstage.com so I made a profile again, you really can have any resume.00:25:56.700 --> 00:26:15.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you don't really need a resume to get started, I mean need to have something, but even if you don't have anything you're going to have a headshot so I got professional headshots done at that time and I put together this casting and and really it it at the end of the day.00:26:16.110 --> 00:26:25.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah now later on in my career where i've done a tremendous amount of things and I have a lot of examples of my acting whether it's movie clips or.00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:36.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: TV clips or commercial clips or whatever it is, I have a tremendous library that I have uploaded into these these casting websites, but back then.00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:51.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Really i'm just hoping that people see my headshot and think hey you know he kind of looks like a middle aged dad or you looks like somebody that you know we will at least give a chance to audition so.00:26:52.530 --> 00:27:11.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At that point, I decided that you know I need to get a survival job, something that is flexible, something that that can bring in enough money for me to just continue to parlay, because one thing that I learned pretty quickly is that a lot of actors.00:27:12.570 --> 00:27:25.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And a lot of aspiring actors, particularly are really hesitant to spend money on themselves, I mean the reality is like any business anybody I don't care what business that you're in.00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:38.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're going to lose money at first, because you have to be investing in your business and I knew right from the beginning, just like with my with my coaching career that.00:27:39.690 --> 00:27:48.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As a coach in my coaching career, you are your career, you are, that person you your coach coach is not just your job it's your career, it is we want.00:27:49.440 --> 00:28:01.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I took that same approach with my acting career, it is me that I am a business and I need to run my acting career, I need to run my life.00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:08.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like a business and if you're not willing to do that, then you're not willing to really go all in on business, whether it's acting or not.00:28:08.850 --> 00:28:21.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I made that decision and i'll take you through some more that the steps here in a minute we're going to pause for another commercial i'm Kevin or bro and you're listening to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:10.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everyone i'm jumping over you're listening to talk.00:31:10.320 --> 00:31:23.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're listening to talk radio dot nyc, and this is coffee talk XL and we're going through my kind of evolution into the acting world and the business of acting and, as I was saying before the commercial break.00:31:25.470 --> 00:31:29.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You have to treat your career like a business and.00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:34.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of people that's lost on a lot of people so just like with any business.00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:45.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You have to invest in it, and that that investments, not just in in time it's not just money but it's in time and emotion and everything else you have to invest.00:31:46.560 --> 00:31:59.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Without any expectation that you're going to get a return on that investment right away, and so, when I decided okay hey man i'm going to go i'm going to live out of my car to try and make this happen.00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:16.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I gave myself a time limit, now that time limit, what I said back then 10 years ago almost I said that i'm going to give it three years you know just like any business you got to give it three years to turn a profit.00:32:18.030 --> 00:32:18.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and00:32:19.590 --> 00:32:21.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Sometimes will happen, faster and that.00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:29.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Sometimes it may not even happen in those three years, but you you start to see you know some development, and it may go on, but.00:32:30.330 --> 00:32:38.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In my mind I said, you know I don't know what my talent level is just like when I was an athlete and just like when I was a coach.00:32:39.270 --> 00:32:46.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't know how good I can be, but what I do know is i'm never going to find out how good I can be unless i'm all in.00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:54.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because, at the end of the day, i'm responsible for my success, nobody else I can't sit around waiting on a lottery shot.00:32:54.810 --> 00:32:58.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I have to make it happen, I have to, I have to carve my own path.00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:09.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so I told myself that i'm going to give myself three years and, at the end of those three years I don't need to be in a list or Venus or even a seamless accurate, the end of three years.00:33:09.540 --> 00:33:17.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But what I do need to do is I what I do need to see is that this was a good decision, I need to see some development.00:33:18.570 --> 00:33:31.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I need to see some progression in it, not just in terms of finances coming in, obviously by booking gigs but, but also in my development as as an actor and as a businessman, and so.00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:34.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I end up.00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:44.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: getting a job I talked about it, last week I got a job, working with a cat rescue actually and I also got a job, from my buddy.00:33:45.420 --> 00:33:54.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: out on long island driving black car service doing airport runs and limousine service, it was great because it was great money and.00:33:55.380 --> 00:34:05.520 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Essentially you know you were in a position where I I he was cool with the fact that, like sometimes i'd have to go on in addition or i'd have to head into the city and I couldn't work these kinds of things so.00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.330 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I decided that.00:34:10.410 --> 00:34:22.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like I said i'm going to i'm going to i'm going to put myself in a position where I can audition for anything decided east coast, so there were times I mean no exaggeration, because back then now it's different in the audition.00:34:23.490 --> 00:34:30.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In the audition world very rarely because of coven are you doing in person.00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:39.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Casting now i'm the entire thing is changed the entire industry has changed and I don't see it going back I I see it, primarily being.00:34:41.910 --> 00:34:50.490 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Either virtual or taped auditions and because even right now, some places have opened up i've done a couple of in person callbacks.00:34:51.090 --> 00:35:05.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But the reality is pretty much everything is is on tape and which is great for actors now because you don't necessarily need to be in the city all the time because back then man, you had to live.00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:15.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: either in the city or near the city, so that you can make it to these auditions well now it's completely changed, but in any event, I made the decision I was in so.00:35:16.680 --> 00:35:33.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was living on my homework basically a typical day for me back then was that I would park my car in New York City park on riverside drive for free riverside drive and central park central park West, you can park for free.00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:44.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But they got alternate side parking so you know every other day you got to move your car, so the street clean and then you gotta move it back into the spot, that you were in or find another spot.00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:55.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And my car had attended windows and I would just sleep on the bed, and do, let me tell you something I mean for two winners in New York City it got.00:35:57.150 --> 00:36:03.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, in the negatives multiple nights but in the car I wasn't really that.00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:14.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I wasn't really that cold in the car because I had my own he i'm actually i'm an outdoorsman also, and so I had a.00:36:16.350 --> 00:36:20.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had a sleeping bag that was tempered for.00:36:22.080 --> 00:36:39.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Negative 40 so I could I could literally sleep all night and sleep comfortably in the car and wake up each day I would I would pack a bag backpack and I would have a duffel bag, with my workout clothes, and I would head into the city or take the subway down into into.00:36:41.910 --> 00:36:46.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hell's kitchen or in that area, and I would um.00:36:48.750 --> 00:37:01.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, spend most of my day auditioning or submitting myself for auditions or taking acting classes, one of the biggest things that I learned very early on, thank God, was that.00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:04.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm only going to get so far.00:37:06.930 --> 00:37:16.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Unless I learned the tree, I have to learn the trade, just like any business, you have you have to immerse yourself in that business.00:37:17.310 --> 00:37:28.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you have to be a sponge for knowledge one big thing with me was that I was actually so i'm kind of if i'm all in on something that i'm all in i'm going to remember.00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:43.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Everything that's told to me because any little piece of information is going to be great information for me for the future, so I would listen I would watch I was constantly watching YouTube videos of.00:37:45.030 --> 00:37:59.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: of actors that I respected, and I was what I was watching not really was them acting, but I was watching videos of them in on in interviews talking about acting talking about the business of it and.00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:09.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Kevin spacey now of course obviously his whole life went belly up since this time but, at the time, I had a tremendous amount of respect for the guy.00:38:09.810 --> 00:38:22.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Who didn't for his acting career started from scratch lived in a studio apartment etc, etc, in New York City and one big thing that he said was hey know your lines be on time.00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:32.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Those two things sadly enough most actors don't get it, and the reality is, if you think about it from like a business standpoint.00:38:33.390 --> 00:38:37.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That happens out in the business world, to me, I i'm partners in construction company.00:38:38.190 --> 00:38:55.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I can't tell you how many jobs that we've booked as a construction company, simply because you showed up on time, simply because we return the phone call I mean it's crazy to think that people that this is lost on Sunday, but anyway.00:38:56.610 --> 00:38:57.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I started, you know.00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:08.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Trying to you know make my way through the the rigors of New York City, and I was basically taking for the most part, I would just take anything with it was a student film.00:39:09.090 --> 00:39:18.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Now, the one thing that I made the decision early on that I would not do is I didn't want to be a background I didn't want to be an extra.00:39:19.560 --> 00:39:28.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In my mind it's not acting now there's a need for background actors there's need for extras and and all these things and and for some people.00:39:28.560 --> 00:39:41.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's great you know I don't judge them for me it's just it's not what I wanted it's not what I wanted to be a part of because to me it's not acting so I made the decision early on i'm not going to do background.00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:50.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, of course, that puts a little bit more pressure on yourself, because at this point now you're saying that.00:39:50.670 --> 00:40:01.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're only going to accept supporting roles or lead roles and it and that's kind of a bold statement or kind of a bold move or old gamble.00:40:01.950 --> 00:40:10.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When you don't really you haven't really booked a lot of things so anyway, I mean it's not like it was easy I mean, obviously I mean it.00:40:11.550 --> 00:40:24.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's one of the toughest professions to to to be a part of and to be successful and i'm really lucky, in my opinion that, then I am able to work so much and i've done so many things.00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:30.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But it's a tough racket and I can tell you, like I.00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:34.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's not like I didn't think about quitting.00:40:36.450 --> 00:40:45.840 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay anybody that has ever really wanted to do something and it's taken on a challenge and gambled on themselves because that's really what I was doing was gambling on myself right.00:40:47.040 --> 00:40:58.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Anybody this gambled on themselves, has gotten, to the point where like man what am I do you know what what's going on here, and I can tell you that there was a point I can tell you the exact.00:40:59.700 --> 00:41:14.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Time that this happened, I had an audition down on like 36 avenue or 30 36th street and 10th Okay, and it went terrible it went or both to this day, the worst audition ever and.00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:28.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Part of it was that I didn't go into the audition with my side my my copy of the script I thought I was just going to go in, I was going to wow them with in my ability to memorize you know.00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:39.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so I go in it's a total disaster, you know I, and I just like you know what am I going to say guy says the casting director says listen.00:41:39.870 --> 00:41:50.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're not going to catch you i'm gonna be awesome, but I can see there's some you know some talent there with you don't ever go into an audition without your site ever.00:41:51.330 --> 00:42:05.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'm like man filing that right, so I leave it's the middle of the winter time dude I got zero money in my pocket zero money in my wallet at this time, you needed the metro card was like to 25 to ride the subway.00:42:06.060 --> 00:42:17.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I don't even have to 25 on my on my car, I mean I got I got less than that and i'm too proud to ask somebody to sway me in and i'm too proud to jump to the thing.00:42:18.330 --> 00:42:29.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I walk 100 blocks or 100 blocks to where my car was parked it took me I don't even remember, was in the middle of the winter and snow and I was like an hour and a half.00:42:30.450 --> 00:42:39.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: walked my car I get in my car and freezing cold and i'm like you know what this is this is crazy what am I doing.00:42:39.810 --> 00:42:46.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'll finish the story when we come back from commercial but, basically, I wake up the next morning, I have a missed call.00:42:46.830 --> 00:42:55.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's for my first speaking role and TV commercial which ended up ultimately leading to my screen actors Guild eligibility.00:42:55.590 --> 00:43:05.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It happened that day day after I almost could see myself quit and we'll talk about more of that in a minute i'm Kevin Barbara you're listening to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everyone you copy Doc XL.00:45:21.510 --> 00:45:23.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And more bro you're listening on.00:45:23.370 --> 00:45:27.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Talk radio dot nyc thanks for tuning in once again that's my last segment.00:45:28.140 --> 00:45:39.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm going to continue this conversation in an probably the next episode, I mean I it's impossible for me to explain the entire business of acting in one shot, but in any event.00:45:40.020 --> 00:45:47.010 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Taking you i've taken you up to the point where I could see that line I could see that line in front of me where.00:45:47.580 --> 00:45:57.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think that the average person would have given up because at this point I I didn't feel as though things were happening, I mean I.00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:07.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: was doing all the right things, I was taking classes and I was working hard, and you know, making the sacrifices, making the investment myself.00:46:08.130 --> 00:46:16.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and putting time into learning the craft I I have probably the best acting coach in the country in Richard Klein Richard.00:46:17.220 --> 00:46:25.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: was on three's company, he was leery Dallas on three's company and but he's done so much more than that, but that that was really what kick started his career.00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:37.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But he really taught me about the art of acting and I continue to go to him as a resource until we can get back to having actual acting classes together but.00:46:38.370 --> 00:46:51.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Really taught me how to just be natural just be myself and that's really helped me so much in my career i'm like I was saying you've got to be all in.00:46:51.840 --> 00:47:02.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your other on in my mind you're either all in or you're all out there no through direction you have to invest the time and the money, and you have to.00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:21.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: be willing to take some hits because man i'm telling you I there was that line for me where I could have given up but I didn't and you know there were a lot of things that I mean you gotta kind of humble yourself to because acting is really I mean.00:47:22.530 --> 00:47:29.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's a unique business and that you are constantly putting yourself out there and you're putting yourself out there.00:47:30.090 --> 00:47:40.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Knowing that chances are you're going to get rejected because nobody I don't care how much you book nobody's booking 100% of their auditions you know, so you essentially you know.00:47:42.090 --> 00:47:49.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I kind of used to use this analogy, when I was coaching track, excuse me let's go to track, I think you know in baseball.00:47:50.850 --> 00:48:06.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You could fail 70% of the time, and you, you could still end up making it into the hall of fame you can be considered one of the best ever any field 70% of the time, and that really rings true in all aspects of life, listen.00:48:06.780 --> 00:48:08.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You don't it's not going to be.00:48:09.750 --> 00:48:13.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All sunshine and roses it's not going to be you're not going to bad at Dallas.00:48:13.710 --> 00:48:31.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, you have to do is, you have to put yourself out there be willing to fail, that 70% or even 90% of the time, so that you can really enjoy those wins and those bookings or the or or in the world of business those those those big contracts or whatever it is that you do and so.00:48:32.820 --> 00:48:37.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know I I put myself out there, I gambled and really.00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What I had to really humble myself to was.00:48:44.250 --> 00:48:54.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i've got to be the best version of myself when I go into these auditions I have to be the best version of what they're looking for.00:48:55.080 --> 00:49:02.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That doesn't mean have to force it, but basically for me in my world I said, you know i've gotta I gotta have curb appeal.00:49:02.850 --> 00:49:10.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Alright you're in real estate world you under you know you understand curb appeal it or just in the world of business, you can have a restaurant.00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:29.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That has the greatest chefs in the world, you know Gordon Ramsay there, but if it looks like a dump on the outside, no one's going it doesn't matter How nice it is on the inside people want to see it to be inviting so as a person i'd say okay what What about me, can I improve.00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:36.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, and this is this that you know you gotta be honest with yourself and so like with me.00:49:37.740 --> 00:49:47.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I really had to embrace who, I am as an actor what is my brand what is, you know what is it that makes me special.00:49:48.300 --> 00:49:57.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, and every business should be thinking this all the time, and you need to be adapting also growing with it, but so I basically say you know listen.00:49:58.680 --> 00:50:02.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm not a bad looking guy run know model okay um yeah.00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:15.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know you gotta be honest with yourself, I can be anybody's neighbor so I just need to be the best version of me the best version of anybody's neighbor that I can be.00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:23.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And if you look at me now I mean for us being in shape and these kinds of things, I mean those are important for me it.00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: doesn't have to be for everybody, but in order for me to be the best version that that's what I feel like I do, I have to be fit.00:50:30.630 --> 00:50:37.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I also had to start realizing you know how what's the best haircut for me.00:50:38.670 --> 00:50:48.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: what's the best facial here, for me, I I early on in my career, I didn't even think of these things because i'm just thinking about you know just be like I am you know I.00:50:48.600 --> 00:50:54.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had the full goatee not that not that groomed one that I have now, and I would just take.00:50:54.630 --> 00:51:00.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The clippers and I would just use a number two you know just to get it all the same I and then then once i'm.00:51:01.140 --> 00:51:10.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On a on a gig and the end the hair and makeup girl is like do you mind if I shape your goatee now i'm like sure have added.00:51:11.100 --> 00:51:21.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So she shapes it so that it's so that it tapers itself, you know and she's like you should do this, all the time and i'm thinking to myself how did I miss that.00:51:22.170 --> 00:51:32.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah I mean I bet i've had the same go to for like you know 10 years you know I i'm not even thinking about that, but she's like you know this suit your face more so, then it was like okay.00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:42.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's interesting what else Should I be doing, you know and what else should I need to invest in joy, I need to invest more in how am I here style.00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:44.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know how I look.00:51:47.070 --> 00:51:49.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: moisturize telling you like.00:51:51.690 --> 00:51:53.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I have a friend that.00:51:54.900 --> 00:51:58.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At our 10th highschool reunion.00:51:59.250 --> 00:52:08.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At our 10th high school reunion his name is Ken and Ken I was like dude you don't look like you've aged a second you know this is back waiting for I was an actor.00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:22.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: young age, a minute bro he's like I use moisturizer like who does that right what guy uses that was it like dying moisturizer he's like no it's women's moisturizer but like skin is skin.00:52:23.730 --> 00:52:31.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And at the time I didn't think it would mean anything to me I just thought it was crazy now as an actor, I can tell you 100%.00:52:32.220 --> 00:52:43.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I use women's I got to get it from the women's out because there is, there is no men's version of this but I use anti aging moisturizing cream.00:52:44.310 --> 00:52:51.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: not afraid to say that man I gotta fight off Father time i'm you know i'm 51 years old, what am I i'm not getting any younger.00:52:52.260 --> 00:53:10.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's just another investment in me it's another investment in in in my curb appeal as I go out there and same thing with my hair, you know stop getting a $10 haircut because that's just a haircut you need to invest get a hairstyle you know.00:53:11.910 --> 00:53:27.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My head shots you look, if you look at my headshots now compared to my head shots back then, you know nine years ago 10 years ago it's crazy the difference, not just because I physically looks different I mean.00:53:28.620 --> 00:53:38.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm in better shape now than I was in these kinds of things, but I invested, I went listen you don't have to do this, but I flew all the way to La for my headshots.00:53:39.210 --> 00:53:51.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I I got Joanna the generous to do my headshots cheese Ellen degeneracy his sister in law and it wasn't cheap, but let me tell you something man.00:53:51.270 --> 00:53:53.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was worth every penny.00:53:53.250 --> 00:54:10.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To go out there and get my headshots done because I can tell you from the moment that I uploaded the my headshots my new headshots to my agencies and to just my own casting networks and and actors access and everything else.00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:19.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had already been getting a lot of auditions i'm telling you, it has skyrocketed i'm doing bare minimum here minimum I get 10 on missions, a week.00:54:20.220 --> 00:54:31.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And these are all principal rules, these are all you know speaking roles these these this is in background stuff and it's all because I have invested in that, and so.00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:42.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like I said there's a lot more to this, and I can talk about it future episodes but really the main things to take away is you gotta gamble.00:54:43.260 --> 00:54:45.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You gotta gamble you gotta go all in.00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:54.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You got to take the attitude you're going to be all in or all out and i'd rather be all in you have to accept the fact that you're going to fail.00:54:54.750 --> 00:55:08.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of times man, a lot of times you got to accept the fact that you may not turn a profit, this is any business, you may not turn a profit for three years, you may not see any any real wins for those that amount of time, but you got to keep plugging.00:55:09.690 --> 00:55:23.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the biggest thing that to take away from all of this is, you have to invest invest in yourself believe in yourself, I have this unwavering belief in myself I know.00:55:24.120 --> 00:55:33.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That i'm not going to fail, I know i'm not going to fail as an actor as a businessman and i'm personally as a as a human i'm not going to fail.00:55:33.690 --> 00:55:41.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we'll talk about more of this in in future episodes hopefully you got a good brief overview of acting and how that relates to business and whatnot.00:55:42.150 --> 00:55:55.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Next week i'm gonna have my buddy rob Warren or calling Kramer we're gonna be talking about the rock and roll hall of fame so join me next Tuesday night Live eight o'clock for coffee talk XL right here on talk radio dot nyc.

SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Kevin talks about Rocky's Animal Rescue, a cat rescue service he named after his cat Rocky and how it all got started. Ten years ago he moved to New York City on a whim and his first job in the city was assisting with a cat rescue at a humane society. There were 36 feeding stations around the town where they would keep track of the strays. It was during his rounds that Kevin found a particularly special cat.SEGMENT 2Kevin introduces Jeff Pearlman, author of “Football For A Buck” and “Three-Ring Circus.” The latter is about Kobe Bryant, The Lakers, Shaquille O'Neal and their relationship. The book was scheduled to release eight months after Kobe passed away. It was a confusing time for Jeff. When the book was released he anticipated heavy backlash but fortunately that was not the case. Jeff is currently working on a biography about Bo Jackson. In order to research he visits libraries and buys books on ebay to learn more about them. If possible he compiles a list of people that his subject has known and from that list determines who is alive so that he may contact them.SEGMENT 3Jeff talks about the USFL, a spring football league that was an alternative to the NFL. They briefly operated from ‘83 to ‘85, only three seasons. A big blow for the NFL was when Herschel Walker, a Heisman Trophy winner from Georgia joined the USFL. The NFL tried to ignore the influence of the USFL but after signing big names like Lawrence Taylor.  Jeff talks about the major role that Donald Trump took in undermining the USFL. Trump tried to pretend that he didn't have a vested interest in the fall of the USFL but Jeff points out the numerous attempts made to buy football teams. One of Jeff's favorite Trump USFL stories is about Trump's recruitment of Doug Flutie. Trump made him the highest paid player. After signing him, Trump wrote a letter to every other owner in the league saying that he did them and the league a favor by hiring Flutie. He expected that they all contribute to Flutie's salary. Jeff called this Trump's first wall.SEGMENT 4Kevin talks about Rocky's Rescue and his work to establish it as a 501 (c3) so that it is officially a non-profit. He has also started a trap, neuter, release program. In addition to caring for his own cats, Kevin fosters many. Ultimately he'd like to start his own cat cafe, much like his friend in Rahway, NJ. Kevin would also like to start putting together a rescue plan for pets during natural disasters. He tells another story about a cat that he rescued and brought home with him. They have since established a very close trusting relationship.TRANSCRIPT00:00:27.180 --> 00:00:31.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey welcome back everybody to copy talk XL i'm Kevin barbro.00:00:31.260 --> 00:00:40.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And you're listening on talk radio dot nyc and the talking alternative, and we are back here for the second week in my new edition of.00:00:40.980 --> 00:00:48.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My talk show that fourth edition that has evolved over the years and i'm excited for today's episode we're going to talk.00:00:48.810 --> 00:00:57.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A little bit about what we talked about last week i'm going to touch on track and field just for a couple of minutes about DK metcalf and that hundred meters that I mentioned last week.00:00:57.690 --> 00:01:05.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we are also going to talk about my rescue like I have an animal rescue that I started and it's called rocky's rescue.00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:16.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: After my cat rocky and the genesis of that how I ended up getting into rescuing animals or getting into starting my own animal rescue.00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:24.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we're going to talk about that and i'm going to have a special guest on for the last hour of the show well more than last after the show very special guests.00:01:24.720 --> 00:01:33.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: New York Times bestselling author Jeff perlman Jeff has nine best selling books on the New York Times list and he's also a record for CNN and.00:01:34.320 --> 00:01:40.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the athletic and many other things he's been around for a long time as a as a journalist and as an author.00:01:40.770 --> 00:01:48.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And he's got a lot of great things to say he's got a brand new book out called three ring circus, which is about the Kobe bryant or excuse me yeah.00:01:49.440 --> 00:01:54.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: coby and and the lakers during that era of Kobe and shaq and then he also has.00:01:55.350 --> 00:02:05.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A new TV show on HBO it's going to be coming out it's actually not his show but it's based on one of his best selling books called showtime which talks about the lakers from.00:02:05.970 --> 00:02:16.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Back in their heyday with a coach Riley and magic Johnson Kareem Abdul Jabbar and all those guys so it's gonna be a new show we're gonna talk a little bit about that and talk a little bit about politics just briefly.00:02:17.550 --> 00:02:29.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He is a pretty far left wing dude I kind of live somewhere in the middle, you know, and until we'll talk about that and actually how we ended up connecting in the first place, but.00:02:29.760 --> 00:02:37.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: starting off, I want to talk a little bit about DK metcalf and that 100 years I said last week I said last week wanted.00:02:39.150 --> 00:02:39.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That.00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:52.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My opinion is the guys fast he's football fast for sure, but he's just not track best because the guy is from all my sports fans that that that watch my show.00:02:52.950 --> 00:02:59.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: know that for many, many years over 20 years I was a college track coach at the highest level and i've seen some of the greatest sprinters come through.00:03:00.330 --> 00:03:16.770 Kevin Barbaro Productions: E and that went on to the Olympics World Championships and whatnot DK is just too big man, I mean the dude 642 35 and I said on last week's episode I I think best case scenario, with 1029 That was my best case scenario and.00:03:17.910 --> 00:03:34.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What I did say also was he may even be doing pretty well 40 meters, but it 80 meters at five meters he's going to start moonwalk and that's really exactly how it played itself out and but i'll tell you this, let me say one thing about DK Mecca okay.00:03:35.430 --> 00:03:38.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You you got to have some kind of.00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Confidence in yourself that is higher than the average person's confidence.00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:50.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To be able to say you know what I haven't run track since high school I wasn't even a sprinter in high school.00:03:50.820 --> 00:03:58.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I want to line up against some of the best sprinters in the United States, and I just want to see how fast, I am and the guy was humble.00:03:59.490 --> 00:04:07.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You could see in his TV interview afterwards that he was very appreciative of the opportunity and very complimentary to.00:04:07.530 --> 00:04:17.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The track fans and listen, it was great for track and field, it was great for track i'd love to see even more situations like this because track, in my opinion, is is the best for.00:04:17.670 --> 00:04:27.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's the greatest sports original sport and and it needs it needs and deserves more attention than just once every four years so that's my little thing on DK and last week.00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:34.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'll have to talk about my animal rescue so Rockies animal rescue it's actually.00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:46.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In we're in the first phase of it, right now, and how this came about i'm reason why i'm excited about is, if you follow me on Facebook, or you follow me on Twitter or instagram.00:04:46.740 --> 00:04:56.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You would have seen that I put up for adoption, our first adoptable cat and tiger is a cat that came to us as a foster.00:04:56.760 --> 00:05:06.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He was in a situation where the folks just couldn't take care of them is it because they had another cat he was getting along with it and etc, etc.00:05:07.200 --> 00:05:10.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, as a matter of fact they're wrestling here in the corner right now but.00:05:11.370 --> 00:05:25.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So we split up tiger for adoption and and thankfully, even within 24 hours we had somebody that was interested and we started the process, and now that person is is going to adopt tiger.00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:36.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so it's our first cat that we've adopted out and i'm very excited about that how it all started it, this is a really unique story man really unique story so.00:05:37.380 --> 00:05:42.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When I first moved to New York City almost 10 years ago to become an actor, so I moved to New York City on a whim.00:05:44.310 --> 00:05:52.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: lived out of my car for 18 months and the very first job that I had was I answered a.00:05:54.240 --> 00:06:01.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: craigslist ad somebody that wanted a to they needed somebody to help with this cat rescue.00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:15.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so you know what i'm an animal lover i've always been an animal lover you know to me the greatest job in the world would be to retire on a farm and just have tons of animals run around and be like a safe haven for so.00:06:16.410 --> 00:06:24.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I contact them that they end up hiring me and basically what it once was north of the bronx there was a.00:06:28.110 --> 00:06:41.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A a humane society, there are no kill shelter and they had a tn our programs with dnr is, which is what Rockies rescue is GNR seeds for trap neuter and release and so basically what happens is.00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That we had 36 feeding stations around the town.00:06:46.440 --> 00:06:53.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Where we put food and water, we would track all of the strays come in and keep a log you would assess them to see if they were adoptable.00:06:53.940 --> 00:06:59.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: which was very easy to figure out if a catalyst adoptable it was friendly it takes about two seconds.00:06:59.430 --> 00:07:05.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we would bring them in they they adopted ones will just you know let's pick them up and you spray them into the main site.00:07:06.330 --> 00:07:18.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they would test them for fit and for leukemia which run rampant in the feline population fit is the feline equivalent of each one HIV, so if a pet was.00:07:18.990 --> 00:07:35.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If a pet if a cat was adoptable and disease free that was put up for adoption if it was adoptable but it had FN V, then what would happen is, and I see Jeff jumping in now and we're gonna bring him on in just a few minutes.00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:46.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If I if it had fit, but it was adoptable is friendly, then it could be adopted out to a family that didn't have any other tasks just didn't want to spread.00:07:47.010 --> 00:07:55.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The the other side of the program is it some Castle course are are fearful they you know they don't like humans will dude I don't like a lot so.00:07:56.160 --> 00:08:05.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The reality is, these cats that that live in the in the environment in the town they they're just part of the Environment okay so.00:08:05.490 --> 00:08:15.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: once a month, we would trap the Feral cats and the trap them, just like you track your trap a raccoon you know, in a cage so we have to keep ignoring them with can't get back out.00:08:15.750 --> 00:08:19.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Take him to the vet they get tested for HIV leukemia.00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:29.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And if they were fearful, and they were disease free than they were spayed or neutered on are done and put back where we found them because they they have their own.00:08:29.640 --> 00:08:38.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: display the camp propagate they're not spreading disease and they're adding to the environment, you know they're catching mice you know so, but if.00:08:38.550 --> 00:08:46.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If we found a cat that was that was Feral he wasn't friendly Andy nfib then unfortunately that's a situation where you.00:08:47.040 --> 00:09:01.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: just have to humanely put them down because all he's going to do is go back and spread the fit to the other cats so anyway, I was working this cat rescue and the Friday before Labor day the very first year I was working with it's almost eight years ago now.00:09:02.520 --> 00:09:08.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I I stopped with this lumberyard and there's this little kitten jumps up there, and little black and white kitten.00:09:08.820 --> 00:09:13.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we had just taken the rest of the kittens out of this lumberyard just won't get left behind.00:09:13.830 --> 00:09:22.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I picked them up, you know he's friendly and I put my hand under the fence and he rams is heading to my as all right so he's friendly, so I put I put it in the car.00:09:22.860 --> 00:09:29.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I drive across I finished doing the feeding, because it was late at night, the humane society is not going to open up until Tuesday so.00:09:31.350 --> 00:09:39.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And this Friday and I don't have any cats at that point so i'm like you know what i'll go to the store I go to save a lot I go in I get a little kitty litter.00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:47.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I get a green flea collar and I get like some spray stuff to kill the fleas and ticks because he has fleas on and i'm in the parking lot.00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:58.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I put the green flea collar on on the cat the kitten and I spray and when I sprayed him he got scared jumps under the car buttons into the woods and he won't come out.00:10:01.890 --> 00:10:12.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At that point i've lost it skin right i've been doing and three miles from from where I found it i'm i'm clearly the other side of this of this town.00:10:13.380 --> 00:10:20.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And he just ran into the woods so i'm devastated, because I know that this first one is tiny Secondly, I know it's adoptable.00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:35.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I tell the lady that runs its lowest to food, water out and that'll be undefeated station, so all the September goes by no cat all of October Okay, I think about this cat every day right November goes by dude no cat.00:10:36.690 --> 00:10:48.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: effin December row on December 10 of that so months later December 10 I was filming a TV commercial with Brett farr in.00:10:50.640 --> 00:11:01.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: shaman commercial it Fort Lee what in Jersey city so i'm coming across the cheetah and it's not my day to help with the carrot she's not my day feed.00:11:02.070 --> 00:11:09.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I call it the lady that runs I say hey you know I know that the leading the supposed to do it tonight is like 80 something frickin walks the whole thing.00:11:10.530 --> 00:11:22.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Let me do the feeding today give her the day of no big deal i'm heading that way i'll just on the cross bronx and i'll be there no problem, so I get there today i'm not supposed to feed.00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:34.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It when I get there every single time i've ever done this feeding route, I always started in the same place, except this day, so I show up.00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:45.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I start the middle i'm doing the route i'm in a stop sign and this black and white kid goes walking across the street with a green flea collar i'm like.00:11:47.160 --> 00:11:56.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What are the odds in a gazillion years that another black and white kitten stray is walking around with the Green flea collar I get out of the car.00:11:57.420 --> 00:12:07.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I tap the ground with some some cat food this cat runs over to me lambs his head into my hand, just like he did when I found in three and a half months ago.00:12:07.800 --> 00:12:22.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And it's the same cat the same cat on a day I wasn't supposed to feed I wasn't even doing it in the proper way the proper order that I normally would do it, and on top of all that this cat I found them in a.00:12:23.460 --> 00:12:31.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: lumberyard on the one side of town I lose him in the woods three miles away, on the other side of town and when I found him.00:12:32.790 --> 00:12:40.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is it, this is no joke at all halfway between where I lost him and where I found it, it was almost like.00:12:41.640 --> 00:12:54.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This cat is kitten had been started to make his way back across the entire town to get back to the lumber yard, where it was that so anyway, I scooped him up yes and cuts and scrapes on them and scars on it.00:12:55.980 --> 00:13:05.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Legal was barely even hanging on and bro and took them home I call them rock and so now I have rocky and we have Rockies rescue that's how it all came about.00:13:06.330 --> 00:13:17.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're going to be back here in just a couple of minutes i'm going to welcome my guest Jeff promo and New York Times bestselling author and journalist and we'll be back here on talk radio dot nyc and the talking ultra.00:13:20.430 --> 00:13:21.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: nyc.00:16:13.260 --> 00:16:24.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey welcome back everyone to coffee talk XL here on talk radio dot nyc and the talking alternative and very excited to bring my guest on my first.00:16:24.630 --> 00:16:31.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Second guessed that that i've had since the show came back on the year and it's Jeff perlman Jeff is a.00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:45.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: New York Times bestselling author, he said, nine bestsellers and he is also a journalist he's written for CNN he's written for sports illustrated, etc, etc, and excited happy Jeff thanks for coming on the show brother.00:16:45.570 --> 00:16:46.980 Jeff Pearlman: yeah my pleasure happy to do it.00:16:47.280 --> 00:16:49.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah man dude I got your book right here bro.00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:50.610 Like.00:16:51.870 --> 00:17:11.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah man i'm contributing to the cause is a say now i'm actually I saw I read football for a buck and and i'm on showtime right now I haven't I haven't started even begin to start your latest book, which is available on Amazon right now, which is three ring circus but.00:17:12.390 --> 00:17:23.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I want to talk real quick, I actually just watched it a interview an interview that you had done recently about three rings surface Okay, and I.00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:30.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm really curious about this so for those people that don't know what three ring circus this three ring circus is.00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:51.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Big is about Kobe bryant the lakers shaq their relationship and that dynasty and Jeff wrote a book about it that's what's available, right now, interestingly enough, ironically, coincidentally, whatever you want to call it, it, it was getting ready to be released when Kobe bryant died and.00:17:52.650 --> 00:18:09.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The book is a very honest depiction of colby and their career and do tell me a little bit about what you were going through in your head, as you know that the book is going to come out, you know it's not necessarily flattering jacoby.00:18:10.020 --> 00:18:13.590 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, as you know, and and how is that playing into everything for you.00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:16.050 Jeff Pearlman: I mean, it was a.00:18:17.820 --> 00:18:28.890 Jeff Pearlman: It was confusing you know the book The book was done or sitting in a coffee shop, a friend of mine text me and said that he had just died I didn't believe it.00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:36.330 Jeff Pearlman: I was worried, I mean my first thought was about the book i'm not just saying that like when you hear someone died is young.00:18:36.330 --> 00:18:43.140 Jeff Pearlman: And yeah your first thought is an oh my God my book, you know, like you'd rather the bright so zero copies, and this never happened so it's not.00:18:43.560 --> 00:18:56.460 Jeff Pearlman: You I don't think your first instinct is itself is instinct but then you think about it and you're like well this might not go well and I had a book came out that came out about eight years before this about, it was a biography of Walter payton.00:18:58.140 --> 00:18:59.640 Jeff Pearlman: Pictures hanging right behind me and.00:18:59.820 --> 00:19:00.720 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah sweetness.00:19:00.780 --> 00:19:01.980 Jeff Pearlman: My son's room and.00:19:03.300 --> 00:19:09.120 Jeff Pearlman: That book sports illustrated read an excerpt about three weeks before that book came out.00:19:09.540 --> 00:19:20.820 Jeff Pearlman: And the excerpt was about Walter payton the end of his life and also about infidelity and painkiller addiction and you know some tough stuff suicidal tendencies when the extrovert came out of the book wasn't out.00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:23.970 Jeff Pearlman: It was the backlash was really bad.00:19:24.090 --> 00:19:33.600 Jeff Pearlman: Who is this guy How dare you do this as Walter payton Baba Baba BA and it was not a fun experience at all so with colby and this book coming out.00:19:34.530 --> 00:19:42.300 Jeff Pearlman: My survival instinct was this is this is going to be really bad like this book is not that kind of Kobe bryant it's not a term of art book but it's a pretty otters.00:19:42.300 --> 00:19:42.690 threatened.00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:51.120 Jeff Pearlman: And I was very nervous about it really nervous about it, I they let me add an early prologue to the book just sort of addressing coby death and.00:19:51.570 --> 00:19:57.330 Jeff Pearlman: me explaining this is just a sliver of time in his life it's not the entirety of his life and take him for who he was a youngster.00:19:57.840 --> 00:20:03.870 Jeff Pearlman: And then the book came out and all that nervousness was kind of for nothing, and I think the biggest different treat copywriter Walter payton.00:20:04.710 --> 00:20:19.470 Jeff Pearlman: Is I don't think I think people knew who colby wise they knew he was kind of guy and they knew he was could be a pain in the ass and everyone knew about ego Colorado and the sexual assault case, and so I just think my my nervousness about it wasn't quite meant by the reality.00:20:19.770 --> 00:20:33.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Happily right and and you had an opportunity, potentially, to consider pushing back the date but basically you guys just went forward with with the September release know you know six but.00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:39.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Six months after after you pass basically just figuring it would be it's not going to get any better anyway.00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:44.490 Jeff Pearlman: was actually I think was eight months total and I think it was eight months and.00:20:44.790 --> 00:20:45.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah.00:20:45.420 --> 00:20:53.880 Jeff Pearlman: see much to sound like a decent amount of time, you know if it was like the next month I 100% no doubt in my mind when we gotta move this back, we can't do this now yeah and.00:20:54.360 --> 00:21:05.430 Jeff Pearlman: You know, there was some talk or I can reset people we talked about well do you move it up there that's no not moving up i'm not I don't want to be the guy who's taking advantage of someone's.00:21:05.430 --> 00:21:06.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Death yeah.00:21:07.350 --> 00:21:14.850 Jeff Pearlman: So we kept it a months, and I think it worked out Okay, there you every now and then every now and then I go on Amazon you look at your reviews all writers look at.00:21:14.850 --> 00:21:15.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The reviews yeah man.00:21:16.560 --> 00:21:27.420 Jeff Pearlman: You know you see someone given one Star and they'll be like this guy just attack, who will be in BA BA BA bum you know it's fine it's not it's not a big deal.00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.350 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey listen bro we can't please everybody man that's that's 100% certainty.00:21:31.800 --> 00:21:43.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, when you go into the process of writing these books, but when you went into the process, you know starting price okay i'm gonna write a book about Walter payton i'm going to write a book about the lakers during this time i'm going to write a book about us fl.00:21:45.330 --> 00:21:46.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In your head.00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:54.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At number one first goal do as much research as possible, obviously do you have in your mind.00:21:55.890 --> 00:22:09.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: before you start the research, how you envision the book going and does that change as the research going because you may learn negative things that maybe you didn't know before, and how does that play into your writing.00:22:10.080 --> 00:22:11.760 Jeff Pearlman: So I kind of view it this way, like you.00:22:12.930 --> 00:22:15.510 Jeff Pearlman: As you know, i'm working on a Bo Jackson biography now and yeah.00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:26.040 Jeff Pearlman: I have a skeletal idea of Bo jackson's life like I know the skeletons of it, I know he was born in Alabama I know he was growing poor he was poor.00:22:26.340 --> 00:22:37.800 Jeff Pearlman: He went to auburn I knew he stuttered as a kid I knew he whatever could have gone play for the Tampa Bay buccaneers they drafted number one he went to the royals instead he played for the raiders he got already or does it, so I have the skeletal knowledge.00:22:38.550 --> 00:22:41.460 Jeff Pearlman: And that's sort of the Foundation that's is the basis of and that's why.00:22:41.940 --> 00:22:50.970 Jeff Pearlman: And then it's really just taking this thing and filling it up and filling it up building up and filling it up and taking all this information that you never knew before.00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:56.010 Jeff Pearlman: And filling up the details because it's all about the details it's everything is about the details and.00:22:56.730 --> 00:23:04.350 Jeff Pearlman: it's about knowing the color of the car he drove it's about knowing what the House, he lived in look like it's hearing stories from childhood friends sharing stories from teenagers.00:23:04.770 --> 00:23:13.740 Jeff Pearlman: Building this color fall, you want to tell it's like people say why would you do a book about Brett farr Why would you do a book about Walter payton everyone knows everything about them.00:23:14.310 --> 00:23:22.650 Jeff Pearlman: And my thing is no that's really not true, we know the basics of them, but these are historic figures and you know they matter in sports history, and therefore in American history.00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:31.920 Jeff Pearlman: And I just want to be the guy who like fills in the gaps so that's my thing I know basis there hasn't been the subject of onto I didn't know these knowledge, but I want to fill it up.00:23:33.210 --> 00:23:50.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And without how much how much time, do you think you average per book in terms of your the research part of it, and when do you have in your head Okay, I think i've found about as much as i'm going to find out, I need to start writing how long is the research part start.00:23:50.430 --> 00:23:51.090 Jeff Pearlman: X, I know you're.00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:53.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: getting ready to start to write the book about about now.00:23:53.970 --> 00:24:02.100 Jeff Pearlman: Research is usually about a year and a half, so just for a year and a half, all do is research and that involves i'm, the first thing I always do is I go on eBay.00:24:02.790 --> 00:24:08.160 Jeff Pearlman: And I buy everything I go to eBay because, like my us, so I buy every media guide annuals.00:24:08.820 --> 00:24:19.170 Jeff Pearlman: Books about the person books about the teams, he was on etc, etc, etc, I just have I end up building these libraries for these people these invite I had a bread five library had a water main library for Bo Jackson library.00:24:19.890 --> 00:24:27.030 Jeff Pearlman: And I spent a year and a half, I mean i've yet, for example, i'll get the with Walter payton I get the old Jackson state media ads.00:24:27.540 --> 00:24:32.700 Jeff Pearlman: And I go to name by name player by flyer secretaries assistant coaches blah blah.00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:40.020 Jeff Pearlman: And if they're alive, a make file for them and then i'll try tracking him down and you just go name by name to their life trying to find people and you end up.00:24:40.650 --> 00:24:50.670 Jeff Pearlman: Probably reaching out to 1000 people per book and you hope that you get a decent number of them and then after a year and a half of just deep diving you write it up.00:24:51.630 --> 00:25:06.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Oh dude I, I can only imagine what about the how long is it taking you on the average to write the book, then, from the time that you Okay, I think I got as much as i'm going to go now I got to start writing wow long is that process.00:25:07.320 --> 00:25:16.290 Jeff Pearlman: Usually five to six months just writing every day right, I mean by the end of it it's like no one in this household needs to hear another story about any of the.00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:24.570 Jeff Pearlman: You know, because all you want to do you become hyper obsessive hyper about the subjects and it's not a healthy.00:25:25.320 --> 00:25:32.850 Jeff Pearlman: I don't think it's a particularly healthy way to be you know where but it's kind of how my mind works like I my wife jokes like.00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:40.380 Jeff Pearlman: years and years ago when we were first dating I picked up for like 50 cent donny osmond autobiography I don't care about like picked it up.00:25:41.070 --> 00:25:51.060 Jeff Pearlman: And I was all about donny osmond I just want to tell her facts about donny osmond or I bought like this book about blind melon the band blind melon I want to do is tell I get very single minded in my.00:25:51.750 --> 00:25:57.540 Jeff Pearlman: thinking and for books that works very well, but it can lead you in a in an institution or mentoring.00:25:58.260 --> 00:25:59.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well dude your wife already.00:26:00.780 --> 00:26:03.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is a saint anyway, I mean a boss married you right.00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:04.440 But yeah.00:26:06.510 --> 00:26:07.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I mean.00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:19.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: your wife donated a kidney to somebody she didn't even know bro I mean so already I mean already sheet sheet or under key Joe had been married.00:26:19.560 --> 00:26:20.010 Jeff Pearlman: She doesn't.00:26:20.460 --> 00:26:21.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Everyone for all this stuff.00:26:22.050 --> 00:26:34.950 Jeff Pearlman: should have a lifetime of sports stories like this is not something probably signed up for see that are marrying a nice guys Jewish he's in New York i'll get married This is great then she winds up with like that 7000 bread firestorm that's not a fair trade off at all.00:26:36.360 --> 00:26:39.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah now what is she a sports person or no.00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:44.100 Jeff Pearlman: she's a I mean she played you know tennyson hoops in the high school but.00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:53.760 Jeff Pearlman: she's a moderate grew up a giants fan but she's a moderate sports fan, but not a major, but she reads all my books and she goes through, and she edits and she's a very good writer, and you know a great editor and.00:26:54.330 --> 00:27:00.270 Jeff Pearlman: You know, but we don't we don't watch in our House my son's room right now is right deceptive there's my son's room, but we don't.00:27:00.270 --> 00:27:01.740 Jeff Pearlman: Watch sports in our House.00:27:04.470 --> 00:27:09.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah and your son is he I see the reason is, I follow you on Twitter, of course, I thought we.00:27:10.380 --> 00:27:18.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: were connected and what I love about the stories about you, is what I like about you bro I mean I I like in general right but.00:27:19.710 --> 00:27:23.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Your self deprecating you're not afraid to make fun of yourself and.00:27:25.290 --> 00:27:32.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: that's kind of my own sense of humor to you know where it listen man, if I if I can't laugh at myself, you know.00:27:33.330 --> 00:27:42.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's almost like I have free rein to laugh at other people, because I laugh at myself but but you're a family guy and and and that really comes out in.00:27:43.560 --> 00:27:56.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In all of your platforms that that i've seen you on and and to me, you know that's obviously a lot more important than being a writer or being famous or or New York Times bestseller lists, so you know kudos to that bro.00:27:57.540 --> 00:28:08.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But we're gonna be back in a minute when I come back with you here, I want to talk about a little bit about football for a buck and Donald trump because I don't think that people.00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:16.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Have any clue as to what his involvement was with us, if I grew up during that era bro I didn't even realize.00:28:17.520 --> 00:28:26.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Until until now, even as an adult I didn't even realize it until I read the book and man it just cast a whole different talk about negative information bro.00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:37.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This is this is unreal but listen we're gonna be back here in just a couple of minutes with Jeff for a moment this is Kevin Barbara and coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:31:22.650 --> 00:31:32.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and welcome back everybody to coffee talk XL i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc and talking alternative i've got my special guests with me.00:31:32.280 --> 00:31:41.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Today in New York Times bestselling author Jeff perlman you've got a brand new book out, you can get on Amazon called three ring circus he's in the process of writing a.00:31:42.660 --> 00:31:52.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: biography about my favorite athlete of all time by far my favorite athlete of all time Bo Jackson greatest athlete I think not just my favorite APP I think he was the greatest athlete that ever watch your.00:31:53.940 --> 00:32:02.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But that's another story What I do want to talk about he has another book that came out what when they come out 2018, I think, maybe.00:32:02.580 --> 00:32:03.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I think so.00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:22.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah football for a buck it's about the rise and fall of the US fl and give for people that don't know me just give a reader's digest version, what was the nfl excuse me, what was the US fl what made it different than the nfl and just kind of go from there.00:32:22.860 --> 00:32:29.550 Jeff Pearlman: I was a spring Football League professionally that came along start with lasted from 8385 so that three seasons.00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:32.850 Jeff Pearlman: And it was basically an alternative to the nfl and.00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:42.240 Jeff Pearlman: Their plan, the idea was we get one or two stars per team, but basically we're going to keep payrolls down.00:32:42.600 --> 00:32:47.460 Jeff Pearlman: we're going to draft regionally, you can draft we have a national draft, but then every team has.00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:55.980 Jeff Pearlman: designated schools in their region so like the Philadelphia stars had penn state pit Delaware blah blah blah blah blah, you know, so you were the idea was.00:32:56.520 --> 00:32:59.760 Jeff Pearlman: fans of these college teams would be able to see their college players at the next level.00:33:00.690 --> 00:33:05.640 Jeff Pearlman: that a lot of innovations, they were the first ones at the two point conversion a the coach challenge on and on and on a bunch of stuff.00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:12.090 Jeff Pearlman: And they're they're big landmark was the big blow was herschel Walker the heisman trophy out of Georgia.00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:27.180 Jeff Pearlman: went to the USA, because at the time underclassmen were not allowed in the nfl so herschel Walker jumped sign with the New Jersey generals and there was a spring arrival, to the nfl and it remains to this day, even through writing a book my favorite all time sports league by far.00:33:29.190 --> 00:33:40.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah it was a unique league a day you know some of the cities were major markets, of course, New Jersey generals and what la but then it was a smaller markets too I think San Antonio omaha.00:33:41.010 --> 00:33:49.890 Jeff Pearlman: don't have a tome I didn't get Birmingham yeah yeah you get a lot of smart it was it was a mix of nfl cities and also mid major cities.00:33:50.370 --> 00:33:51.030 Jeff Pearlman: right message.00:33:51.090 --> 00:34:14.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so what ended up happening, of course, the nfl i'm assuming hated the US fl this wasn't a thing like hey man let's work together, this was it was full on heat then talk a little bit about how the nfl what what measures they started to go through to try to take now in the US fl.00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:20.640 Jeff Pearlman: Well, I mean you have to remember at that time or people who would know us avail sign three straight heisman trophy winners.00:34:21.030 --> 00:34:28.050 Jeff Pearlman: Three straight heisman trophy winners went to the USA wow so it's herschel Walker and there's micro zeroed in nebraska and then uh Doug flutie at Boston college.00:34:28.650 --> 00:34:34.980 Jeff Pearlman: They started getting players from the nfl and signing them so they start stealing nfl players and.00:34:35.460 --> 00:34:47.790 Jeff Pearlman: They got Steve young out of byu to go straight to the US about Jim Kelly, out of Miami what St people forget reggie white out of Tennessee us fl like big time big time players and they were you know scaring the crap out of the nfl.00:34:48.900 --> 00:34:58.860 Jeff Pearlman: The nfl started sort of what are we going to do here and they start coming up with these plans or we're going to have to start stealing players back and we're gonna have to.00:34:59.370 --> 00:35:09.570 Jeff Pearlman: undermine them, but it was honestly, it was really the USA felt like the nfl a lot of it was trying to ignore the US about because, once we start paying attention to them, it makes them look like they're on our level.00:35:09.990 --> 00:35:15.630 Jeff Pearlman: And the US fl meanwhile was like poke poke poke we're going to steal these guys they signed Lawrence to Donald trump.00:35:16.050 --> 00:35:19.110 Jeff Pearlman: I mean trump did some smart think Donald trump was the owner of the New Jersey generals.00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:31.200 Jeff Pearlman: And he signed Lawrence Taylor tweet futures contract, so he was under contract with the giants trump comes along and says look you contract runs out in three years i'm gonna sign you to a contract starting three years from now.00:35:31.830 --> 00:35:37.500 Jeff Pearlman: And the nfl was like what the hell is this like what is going on here and but then things went very bad.00:35:38.220 --> 00:35:39.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah clearly.00:35:40.470 --> 00:35:44.250 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, so when you started writing this book.00:35:45.840 --> 00:36:06.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Did you already have an idea about Donald trump and his involvement and the in the negative impact of Islam, did you have that idea or was it through your research that you started seeing like dude this guy really was the one is for the League and how did that come about.00:36:06.450 --> 00:36:13.770 Jeff Pearlman: Right, so I just want to say, first, I am, this is a book I pry wanted to write for about 10 years and I kept getting rejected kicking rejecting kept getting rejected.00:36:14.370 --> 00:36:20.100 Jeff Pearlman: It was weird timing, that I ended up writing it when Donald trump was running for President, I was literally researching this book, while trump was running.00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:27.810 Jeff Pearlman: I knew trump ruin the US as well, I did not know the extent to which you know, so I knew he was largely responsible.00:36:28.410 --> 00:36:36.210 Jeff Pearlman: I didn't know he was almost singularly responsible and sort of lengths he went I mean basically in a very brief nutshell.00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:44.880 Jeff Pearlman: He he wanted nfl franchise and he saw the US to validate his way of getting an nfl franchise and he did not care about this league at all.00:36:45.210 --> 00:36:52.200 Jeff Pearlman: And he did things that were really, really underhanded and scummy including meeting secretly with P roselle who is in the nfl, Commissioner.00:36:52.650 --> 00:37:02.040 Jeff Pearlman: and basically making him an offer, I would throw this league under the bus if you give me an nfl franchise and resellers like I know who you are I know your reputation he literally said to him.00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:11.250 Jeff Pearlman: As long as as long as I am involved in the nfl as long as my ears are involved, the nfl you Donald trump would never have a franchise in this league.00:37:12.570 --> 00:37:30.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And and Donald trump makes it seem as though he really didn't have a vested interest, but how many how many teams that he tried to purchase over the course of time, I mean he tried to buy it he made a limp offer at the patriots, I believe.00:37:30.630 --> 00:37:34.500 Jeff Pearlman: So he the first time you try, but the thing is this with him.00:37:35.310 --> 00:37:41.010 Jeff Pearlman: it's always a little questionable like how much of an effort to make and how much was it just to be in the headlines, so he.00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:46.800 Jeff Pearlman: tried he reached out to the baltimore baltimore colts and Robert or say the owner at the time in like 1980.00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:54.000 Jeff Pearlman: And called a bunch of times and her say was like yeah i'm not selling my team i'm definitely not selling it to you, so that died.00:37:54.750 --> 00:38:04.860 Jeff Pearlman: He had an opportunity to buy the Dallas cowboys before Jerry Jones bought it and made the determination that the team would not be worth the money to pay now of course it's worth zillion dollars.00:38:05.580 --> 00:38:15.330 Jeff Pearlman: He tried his best moment, if you really want to be entertained if you can find it entertaining he quote unquote tried buying the buffalo bills, this is not that long before he ran for President.00:38:16.530 --> 00:38:23.040 Jeff Pearlman: sent in a lowball lowball offer and then, when the guy who actually bought the bills I forgot the family's name.00:38:23.430 --> 00:38:32.370 Jeff Pearlman: He did a press conference and trump live tweeted the press conference bashing the guy who bought the team, while the press conference so yeah.00:38:32.790 --> 00:38:40.020 Jeff Pearlman: How serious was the about getting I think he always wanted in that club, like the nfl was the old money club of the rooney's and the mares and and yeah.00:38:40.200 --> 00:38:41.070 Jeff Pearlman: we've had that correct.00:38:41.910 --> 00:38:51.120 Jeff Pearlman: yeah and trump was always had this sort of I mean to be blunt like the small penis envy of not being in that club not being allowed right, you know so yeah.00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:59.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah I mean Obviously he wasn't he wasn't any more like to then then then 10 years now me, you know, particularly within.00:38:59.580 --> 00:39:10.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Though the wealthy circle, because those all of those teams, as you mentioned, they were owned by all family money man, I mean even the bills, they were they were owned by the rich family.00:39:11.460 --> 00:39:23.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: frozen meats and whatnot you know and and so he wants to be he wants to throw the US fl under the bus pete rose all he wants to get an nfl franchise.00:39:24.330 --> 00:39:42.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He convinces and correct me from wrong he convinces them, they need to move the usl fl to the fall and go heads up against the nfl yes talk about that in in do you think that that that was pretty much the beginning of the end, obviously.00:39:43.350 --> 00:39:49.050 Jeff Pearlman: Actually, it was um it was bonkers it's actually you know i'm not a trump fan, as I think you.00:39:49.050 --> 00:39:49.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: might know yeah.00:39:52.290 --> 00:40:00.900 Jeff Pearlman: He is one of the best salesman i've never seen i've never seen anything like him as a salesman It is remarkable it's truly remarkable and if he could use his powers to good.00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.520 Jeff Pearlman: He could be an incredibly I don't think he's capable of it but you'd be an incredibly positive world force.00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:14.970 Jeff Pearlman: But you basically had teams in the US about in cities like you like euston in cities like Chicago in cities like Tampa where.00:40:15.330 --> 00:40:22.440 Jeff Pearlman: There would be no gain whatsoever Pittsburgh in moving to the fall going head to head, like you, literally would lose your franchise.00:40:22.650 --> 00:40:30.450 Jeff Pearlman: Because a pillar monsters, are not going to be able to compete head to head with the Pittsburgh steelers it just won't happen to use and gamblers are not going to be able to compete with the then Houston or there's will not happen.00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:39.600 Jeff Pearlman: And he amazingly convinced these owners, that it would be to their benefit to move to the fall it's one of the craziest things i've ever seen in my life and.00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:46.860 Jeff Pearlman: My my favorite truly my favorite trump us of our story, these are just speaks to sort of him at the time was um.00:40:47.670 --> 00:40:52.470 Jeff Pearlman: He decided they needed Doug flutie the reigning heisman trophy winner out of Boston columns.00:40:52.920 --> 00:41:02.490 Jeff Pearlman: The New Jersey generals now the quarterback of the time was Brian site, the former nfl mvp they actually didn't need him but they trump didn't know very much about football he just new shiny objects and here's Doug.00:41:02.490 --> 00:41:13.740 Jeff Pearlman: flutie shiny object and flutie I think flutie nowadays actually is a pretty high first round pick because sizes quarterback is doesn't matter back then he was probably a fourth or fifth round nfl draft pick you know.00:41:15.120 --> 00:41:19.770 Jeff Pearlman: 510 yes yeah right so trump if he's in high you so trump.00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.700 Jeff Pearlman: makes him the highest makes an offer.00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:28.830 Jeff Pearlman: To and makes them the highest paid player in football Doug flutie.00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.620 Jeff Pearlman: And the beauty of it is, is he.00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:39.000 Jeff Pearlman: He signed and he writes a letter that I got Ahold of and he sends it to every other owner and the week and it says.00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:50.490 Jeff Pearlman: I have done the League this amazing i've done all of you this amazing favor by signing Doug flutie and the dividends are already paying off I expected each of you to contribute to his salary.00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:55.590 Jeff Pearlman: So he basically as I always say he was the mud Doug flutie was the Mexico wall before the.00:41:55.590 --> 00:41:57.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: mascot I was literally just thinking that man.00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:02.670 Jeff Pearlman: it's the same freaking playbook and i'll tell you when people were saying like.00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:12.450 Jeff Pearlman: trump conspiring with Putin, he would never do that I was like he met with the nfl Commissioner and a volunteer to throw this league under the bus so like.00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:19.680 Jeff Pearlman: The parallels are endless it was it's the bet i'm not saying this so people buy my book, I swear it's available at the library can get pregnant dollar Sir.00:42:20.670 --> 00:42:28.590 Jeff Pearlman: It is the best parallel if you want to really understand trump there's no greater parallel than his time in the USA out to his time now yeah.00:42:28.980 --> 00:42:36.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so the US fl ends up in we're gonna wrap up here in a second but us adele long story short, they sue the nfl.00:42:37.500 --> 00:42:42.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: take them to court and they will be the case, but.00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:49.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: How did they land on $1 that's that's the that's the whole thing yeah I know it's about $3 but yeah.00:42:49.470 --> 00:42:55.230 Jeff Pearlman: You know, it was $1 traveled to three under antitrust law so basically it's very fascinating I interviewed one of the jury members.00:42:56.160 --> 00:43:02.610 Jeff Pearlman: And that, with the nfl busy usl was suing the nfl saying that the nfl was a monopolizing TV and.00:43:02.970 --> 00:43:09.600 Jeff Pearlman: fall TV and and basically with the jury decided wise you're right you guys are actually at the US about you are.00:43:09.870 --> 00:43:16.560 Jeff Pearlman: Correct the nfl has a monopoly, the nfl has been trying to wipe you guys out the nfl is doing a lot of things they shouldn't be doing.00:43:17.160 --> 00:43:28.320 Jeff Pearlman: But then there was this Bible, and the but is it's your fault, like you, guys keep screwing up, you are the ones doing this and the jurors homie Donald trump made himself to start the trial he decided they'd all of these.00:43:29.100 --> 00:43:32.640 Jeff Pearlman: players who are going to testify they didn't call anyone right.00:43:33.450 --> 00:43:43.560 Jeff Pearlman: Donald trump decided, he should be the face and central figure of the trial a jury told me was a disaster, he was scowling at the jury blah blah blah and then of winning $1 trouble, two, three, and that was the death of the US about.00:43:44.310 --> 00:44:01.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Unbelievable listen Jeff Thank you so much for coming on the show your book three ring circus available right now on Amazon, and like this, probably at the dollar store and, if you want to know about Donald trump he republican dude i'm middle of the road guy you know this.00:44:01.200 --> 00:44:01.410 Jeff Pearlman: Right.00:44:02.100 --> 00:44:10.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's fascinating bro it's a fascinating and and and I think you're a great writer best of luck and i'll have you back on the show here another time so thanks.00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:16.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: for having me thank you and we'll be back here in just a minute on coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:46:31.710 --> 00:46:32.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Welcome back everybody.00:46:32.910 --> 00:46:35.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Coffee talk so i'm Barbara and you're listening on.00:46:35.970 --> 00:46:49.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Talk radio dot nyc and the talking alternative quick little shout out on the music the intro music and music for the show to my buddy Dave carpenter Dave is musician in Toledo Ohio.00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:55.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I was track and field and cross country coach at the University of Toledo, many years 15 years.00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:07.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and gave is a musician locally, but he was also a high school track coach and a former college track Star and he wrote that song, it was the theme song for coffee talk 3.0 and and and I continue to.00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:15.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: use it as as our theme song your coffee Doc excel so nice little shout out to my buddy Dave carpenter back and Lido.00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:37.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I want to talk finished up talking about Rockies rescue, so I talked about how I ended up getting rocky and that and that whole story, and so the ultimate goal for Rockies rescue is actually to a couple of things so we're right now we're working on trying to create a 501 C three.00:47:39.120 --> 00:47:48.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, establish it as a 501 C three so that it is a nonprofit and the goal here is to create and we've.00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:54.780 Kevin Barbaro Productions: already started, Korea, I mean I funded myself but a trap neuter and release program so we're I look for.00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:04.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know if I see stray cats or or if somebody has a cat that they can't take care of take the cat in make sure you're getting those shots make sure it gets fixed.00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:13.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then adopted out if it's if it's friendly Of course I end up becoming the crazy cat guy because I I end up fostering a bunch of cats and I have my own cats, you know.00:48:13.980 --> 00:48:28.680 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, but ultimately, I would, I would like to do is here in myrtle beach South Carolina is to open up a cat CAFE now a friend of mine back in New York actually in in.00:48:29.580 --> 00:48:40.560 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In New Jersey in rahway New Jersey, they have a cat CAFE That was my first ever even heard of it and basically what it is, is is we're looking for retail space, right now, where the.00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:51.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: traffic and typically older people are you know, maybe at a Plaza that as a grocery store, but essentially take the retail space, create a diner.00:48:52.590 --> 00:49:07.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Excuse me, create like a CAFE where people can come in, they can have coffee, they can sit and and and the in there are adoptable cats from the the Rockies rescue that are there.00:49:07.560 --> 00:49:13.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they can interact with them if because there are a lot of people that want to have cats.00:49:14.580 --> 00:49:20.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: or want to have pets, but they can't so they come and they make a donation, so they can sit and.00:49:20.700 --> 00:49:29.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And for an hour, they can they can they can play with the cats and and you know, feel that unconditional love that we get from pets and.00:49:29.820 --> 00:49:43.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It but, at the at the same time it's to fund the tea and our program so that we are trying to humanely curb the stray cat population in the Community, I mean that's really what the goal is because.00:49:44.670 --> 00:49:51.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Everybody is seems strange, you see, you know they they they propagate they live in the woods, they live in your backyard.00:49:52.380 --> 00:49:59.850 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And really what needs am some of them are adoptable some of them can be adopted out but really what we need to do is, we need to spay and neuter.00:50:00.630 --> 00:50:10.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, this entire program is set up, so that listen cats are part of the environment, you guys stray cats in your neighborhood that means you got plenty of mice to be or they wouldn't be there.00:50:12.180 --> 00:50:21.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But the the cat CAFE is is kind of the second phase of it, and then the other thing too is, we want to provide a rescue.00:50:21.690 --> 00:50:33.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: plan for pets during natural disasters, so here in myrtle beach South Carolina as an example, we are obviously in a flood zone or obviously in a hurricane zone.00:50:33.930 --> 00:50:53.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And there are a lot of people, particularly senior citizens, particularly retired people that live here that have pets and when we have a situation where we have a natural disaster, which happens to be me basically every other year, so a lot of times the pets are left behind.00:50:54.210 --> 00:51:02.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and on it's a sad situation because you have these people they there's nothing they can do they've got to pack up everything in their car they got to leave.00:51:03.060 --> 00:51:12.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they leave the pets and they just hope that when they get back that that everything is okay, and sometimes it's not, and so this program Rockies rescue.00:51:12.630 --> 00:51:22.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The goal here is to go into and usually these poor neighborhoods as well, where people have to leave and they leave the pets to go into those neighborhoods.00:51:22.950 --> 00:51:27.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: rescue the pets during the time of disaster during the time of need.00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:39.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hang on to them just foster them at Rockies rescue so that they can be reunited with their families, when everybody comes back from whatever the disaster happens to be so.00:51:40.380 --> 00:51:50.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It really is kind of evolved from me being just tired when I first became an actor That was my first job in New York City.00:51:51.270 --> 00:51:58.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To then taking in rocky and the story that I just told a few minutes ago, and then now it's evolved to where.00:51:59.130 --> 00:52:09.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: we're taking in foster's making sure they've had their their their all their shots and make sure that they are spayed neutered make sure they're tested for if IV and leukemia.00:52:10.020 --> 00:52:17.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then, adapting them out and another interesting story which added to all of this is that.00:52:17.490 --> 00:52:27.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Back in July of last year I was at my office so i've got a couple of bombs so i'm one of two partners in a in a small construction company.00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:34.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: will actually not even small anymore here in myrtle beach, I also have my concert production in live event production companies.00:52:35.070 --> 00:52:43.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The two branches kb sports and Kevin Barbara productions, I have a separate office for that downtown myrtle beach near broadway the beach.00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:52.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So i'm in my office, I mean that offices, one in broadway broadway beach this calico cat goes walking across the parking lot like 11 o'clock at night July.00:52:53.010 --> 00:53:05.400 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And July of last year, not not 2000 22,019 so it's 11 o'clock and there's no residential there aren't a whole and so i'm like man somebody dumped this cat you know so.00:53:05.940 --> 00:53:11.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I called it over to me it comes over to me, and as soon as it gets over to me it lays down on his back was me, though.00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:19.290 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, so I figured all right i'll take it, and you can be the office cat that was basically the whole plan here.00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:25.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: That that and I named her cinnamon because she looked like kind of like cinnamon and sugar so.00:53:26.460 --> 00:53:34.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I have her in the office and round about the middle of August i'm like i'm like dude she's getting fat.00:53:35.070 --> 00:53:40.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Take her to the vet, as it turns out she's pregnant, she was pregnant when I found so.00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:50.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One thing about cats people don't realize is that cats are the gestation period is 90 so almost exactly 63 days and then they'll have the kids.00:53:50.850 --> 00:54:00.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So she has the kittens almost exactly 63 days later, my whole goal here at that point is that she had four of them three of them jet lag and one all great.00:54:00.750 --> 00:54:18.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, and so my my grand master plan is i'm going to adopt so anyway very first night that that the kittens are alive so she gives birth, I make a little bed, for her in the bathroom off my master bedroom and so that they can become for like when i'm laying in bed right.00:54:19.350 --> 00:54:25.020 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And all of a sudden cinnamon jumps up on the end of the bed and she's got the runt of the litter.00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:39.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In her mouth, one of the black black cats she comes over no exaggeration, she lays the kitten down in like the space break by my armpit she takes a couple of steps back least down and goes to sleep.00:54:40.740 --> 00:54:50.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dude that's like the sweetest thing that's ever happened to me in my whole life I I don't even know that i've been anything sweeter or nicer happened to me with any relationship i've ever been in my life.00:54:51.570 --> 00:54:56.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But it was like it was it was the greatest thing, so I wake up in the morning and she's got them all up on the bed.00:54:57.600 --> 00:55:08.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well then, I put them back down I go off and do work come back day to she's got them all back up on the video all right, I guess that's what we're doing so I create a little for.00:55:08.790 --> 00:55:12.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And all the the four kittens are in there and and and cinnamon.00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:20.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'm sleeping on the bed, I mean I got a king size bed i'm like sleeping over on the one side, because all the kill the kittens are in this little for that i've created.00:55:21.750 --> 00:55:36.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, then you know my goal still is to adopt them out, and then I started giving them name, so the Gray, one I call them grace son because it's great it was a boy, and the runt of the litter is all black which get like a white.00:55:38.190 --> 00:55:39.540 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I catch wrestling right now.00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:52.620 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The little white patch on her so we call her Ruby and then, and then the other two black one is one is male and female is cardi B and and Jay Z.00:55:53.070 --> 00:56:07.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, the funny thing about Jay Z was that it wasn't until about three months into his life, he was actually known as beyonce but then one day about three months later, I realized beyonce is actually Jay Z.00:56:08.310 --> 00:56:19.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so now, you know they live here I mean I got a big place you know it is what it is probably another reason why I am eternally going to be single but.00:56:19.500 --> 00:56:26.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know rocky's rescue it's a big it's a big part of my life and and you know I I I can't.00:56:27.330 --> 00:56:36.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: really put into words how how great It mak

SHOW NOTES (May 4, 2021)SEGMENT 1Our host Kevin Barbaro is coming to your from South Carolina. Kevin started this show to highlight his own program as well as college track and field. He is happy to be back at Talk Alternative Broadcasting because of it's engaging dialogue driven content.SEGMENT 2Kevin talks about some track and field news. Football player DK Metcalf will be running 100mm at the USATF Golden Games. Before discussing this further Kevin decided to open up about the two people he has lost in the last year, his sister Wendy and close friend Philip Bower. Continuing with his thoughts on the USATF Golden Games, Kevin discusses the difference between football fast and track fast. He believes that DK Metcalf will get smoked but Kevin is grateful for the press that comes with his presence, it's good for the sport. Kevin thinks that Bo Jackson is the fastest NFL player.SEGMENT 3Kevin introduces his guest Yuri Poole, lead singer and founder of Paul McCartney tribute band The McCartney Years. He's always had a love of Paul McCartney. His father had the original pressings of Beetle's records and hearing those records was his aha moment. This is when he realized that he wanted to be a musician and learned to play the guitar. In his early 20's Yuri auditioned for a Beetles production that traveled across Europe and Asia. He got a callback that night and in the 3 weeks leading to the tour he studied Paul McCartney's mannerisms and songs. When he came to America he started, the McCartney years. Yuri met a man who was a regional manager for the Hard Rock Chain. The man told him that he was great but he needed to find his niche and build upon that.SEGMENT 4Yuri was raised in Holland and now lives in Ontario. He has a 44 acre farm manned Port Holland where he grows tulips. It has been a great way for him to keep busy and stay in place during the pandemic. With the help of one of his childhood friends, Yuri learned how to grow tulips and work within that industry. In the fall, he planted 10,000 bulbs. You can see their farm at @farmfairytales on instagram.TRANSCRIPT00:00:38.100 --> 00:00:57.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey everybody welcome back, hopefully, you can hear me this is Kevin Barber Oh, and welcome to coffee talk XL man, my first episode back baby on talk radio dot nyc and it's been a long time, and last time I was on the show was, I want to say.00:00:59.370 --> 00:01:07.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: or so, when I was on the network my buddy Sam is back in the control booth in New York City right now and i'm actually.00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:23.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: broadcasting to you right now, from myrtle beach South Carolina and actually the cool thing about my life was a lot of cool things about my life man, but one of the cool things about my life is the fact that I travel all over the country.00:01:26.130 --> 00:01:35.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I live a unique existence and in that unique existence i'm going to be taking you on a journey.00:01:36.270 --> 00:01:46.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In a lot of different ways on this show so join me every Tuesday night at eight o'clock and live here on talk radio dot nyc.00:01:46.710 --> 00:01:53.160 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Or, of course, you can go to Facebook and go to the talking alternative and you'd be able to watch the live feed right now.00:01:53.610 --> 00:02:09.210 Kevin Barbaro Productions: rocking two cameras Sam I know you can't talk to me right now, but I can chat with me, but I decided to give the two camera thing is shot man and just to be a little bit different of course everybody's getting a on the one camera view here you got a pretty good.00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.440 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You get a pretty good view of the backside of my bedroom.00:02:14.760 --> 00:02:18.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then the other view you know you've got you've got me.00:02:20.100 --> 00:02:24.390 Kevin Barbaro Productions: squared up here, so I just got a note that the that the Internet.00:02:26.130 --> 00:02:38.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A little spotty here, we got a storm coming through I literally live, I want to say 10 minutes from the ocean here in myrtle beach and, of course, if it does store man it's gonna be for like four minutes because that's that's usually the case but.00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:48.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On my first episode back I just kind of want to take everybody through you know just a reader's digest version of what's been going on in my life.00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:57.930 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of things, been going on since I was on the show, since I had my last show, and if you hear cats in the background man i've i've actually become.00:02:58.650 --> 00:03:04.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The crazy cat guy and which is a whole other story so i'll share that in a minute, but.00:03:05.040 --> 00:03:13.890 Kevin Barbaro Productions: For those people that are tuning in for the first time, coffee talk is actually, this is actually the fourth version of coffee talk so coffee talk so.00:03:14.730 --> 00:03:20.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And I was actually I got a credit my my buddy Sam who's back in the booth and and the owner of the of the station.00:03:21.720 --> 00:03:33.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because I was going to call it coffee talk IV, but he was one I said man, I like coffee Doc excel better because I was that was my other choice so cough dog excellent is man, but the.00:03:36.420 --> 00:03:51.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The whole genesis of coffee talk is that going way back to like 2000 gosh 2009 I want to say I started radio show in Toledo Ohio I was on FM station in Toledo, and was actually broadcast live.00:03:53.070 --> 00:04:06.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: sort of broadcast I mean there was a there was a camera in the control booth and it was a regular terrestrial radio station and the interesting thing about coffee talk the original coffee talk was that it was actually centered around.00:04:08.820 --> 00:04:15.990 Kevin Barbaro Productions: college cross country and track and field, and because at the time I was deep into a long career and.00:04:18.570 --> 00:04:25.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: As an nc double a division one head coach for cross country and track and I was at the University of Toledo, we have a great team championship teams and.00:04:26.070 --> 00:04:36.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: had a great career till went belly up that's all other story and that's a whole nother episode or two, but in any event, I started this show I started coffee talk, because I, I wanted to.00:04:37.890 --> 00:04:41.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Have a show that was not only highlighting.00:04:44.190 --> 00:04:55.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Not only highlighting on my program, of course, but also, it was highlighting just in general, you know track and field and I had guests on from all.00:04:58.710 --> 00:05:12.270 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Over the country and, and it was sorry, it was my first episode man so i'm trying to read the notes coming through from the control booth and i'm trying to talk so, but in any event, it was about college track and field, so I would have.00:05:13.590 --> 00:05:20.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I would have different guests on the show from all over the country from different programs and.00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:28.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And that way that they could highlight their own programs, you know and it wasn't just about mine, and so there was a taped version of that show which was.00:05:29.340 --> 00:05:38.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Essentially, the very first college track and field podcast and now, and of course it's almost a decade now, since I was a college coach but.00:05:39.180 --> 00:05:53.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Now it seems like just about every other coach in the country has their own podcast and which is cool man, I mean I I dig it, you know I dig you know people want to have conversation I, I think that.00:05:54.840 --> 00:06:06.420 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, in my world i'm more interested in having dialogue with people i'm not necessarily interested in having a monologue and I, you know, of course, a lot of.00:06:09.570 --> 00:06:19.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Gas and i'm we're not just talking track and field, but a lot of podcasts in general, it turns into just the big monologue that's why I love being on talk radio.00:06:19.860 --> 00:06:28.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: dot nyc and the talking alternative because these shows every show on this channel every show that you can tune into.00:06:28.650 --> 00:06:36.300 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is a dialogue and even if it's just one person like I am right now talking you feel as though you're engaged in the conversation.00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:42.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And the whole goal is, you know to be positive, to be uplifting to give people advice.00:06:43.140 --> 00:06:54.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To tell stories and and, hopefully, everyone can take something away from it, you know I live a different life, then i'm sure most of the other posts on the on the station, but.00:06:54.600 --> 00:07:04.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In in my world because I I live in so many different roles i've so many different things going on but i've realized in order to be successful.00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:16.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In all areas of my life I have to be learning from all these other different areas and and and I may I may be applying things that I learned as a college coach.00:07:16.500 --> 00:07:29.640 Kevin Barbaro Productions: To how I run my concert production company or or or vice versa, you know and so it's a it's great to be back on here and so anyway coffee talk it evolved.00:07:30.090 --> 00:07:39.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: actually had coffee talk to, which was actually a cup of tea oh that was on the same station because coffee talk became the most popular.00:07:41.010 --> 00:07:47.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Show on that station and then they asked me to do a music based one, so we would do you know music from you know.00:07:48.270 --> 00:07:57.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: All different genres but basically the whole gist of the show was that it was to educate people about you know i'm kind of music nerd so so it's no.00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:05.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's not a big stretch and i'm a concert promoter now real life, and so you know it was um.00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:22.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was a great show, then everything went belly up with my coaching career is you know big fallout, it was embarrassing and all the different things, and then I went through a huge transition transformation in my life and.00:08:23.340 --> 00:08:40.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and actually we're going to we're going to switch to just the one camera because I think that the Internet is just not holding up here, for us, so let me just switch this real quick and hopefully this is going to improve the the broadcast here, so an event.00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:48.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Getting back and Sam let me know if the audio is coming through a lot better now but.00:08:49.410 --> 00:09:09.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: went on to decide, you know I had to start my whole life over as a as a as a as an actor, which was what I chose, I mean I was, I was just coaching all those years, and it was really the only career, I ever had, and so I ended up you know basically.00:09:10.290 --> 00:09:21.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Making the decision that I that I want to be an actor, you know I and and I don't want to say it was whimsical Okay, but, but I did.00:09:21.900 --> 00:09:30.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: pack up everything and move to New York City on a whim, so that I could do so that I could do this and i'll tell that story i've told it before, on the other, shows no.00:09:31.500 --> 00:09:41.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'll tell it again, but just not right now, and so, when I moved to New York City, and this was this was back almost a decade ago now.00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:47.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I had that experience of being on the radio and, and so I.00:09:50.130 --> 00:10:01.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I I ended up coming here to talk radio dot nyc or or the talking alternative and and having coffee talk 3.0 well what ended up happening randomly was that.00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I get a phone call or a phone call or an email I can't remember which, but it was this cat from mountain.00:10:08.940 --> 00:10:09.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: out know.00:10:10.590 --> 00:10:21.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Northwest and he said hey man, you know I I stumbled across your your show, because I was live, just like I am right now versus no video feedback then but.00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:33.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But anyway, we he said I really like your show he's like if you ever thought about being on terrestrial radio and am and FM stations I explained them.00:10:36.060 --> 00:10:37.470 Kevin Barbaro Productions: yeah man dude I was on.00:10:38.790 --> 00:10:50.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Regular radio for all those years back in Toledo so long story short we're going to be going here to our first commercial break here but long story short, I ended up.00:10:52.770 --> 00:10:56.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And sorry i'm gonna have to go to the notes, here again, real quick.00:10:57.780 --> 00:11:07.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So okay I got you know, Sam thanks appreciate it about the Internet still being a little bit wobbly it's because we got a storm coming through so we're just gonna have to deal with it at this point, but.00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:09.630 Kevin Barbaro Productions: anyway.00:11:10.770 --> 00:11:26.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The show ended up being picked up for national syndication and so coffee talk 3.0 went from until about 2016 and it was a nationally syndicated show that was on in 56 different cities on am and FM stations.00:11:27.090 --> 00:11:44.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Every Sunday morning, and it was you know it's still the same format, it was me talking about just life in general, having get us on from different walks of life and and and but it just became a tremendous amount of work, I can't even explain to you the amount of work that it takes to.00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:47.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: tape a.00:11:48.870 --> 00:11:55.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: one hour long show like I do now that has commercial breaks every 15 minutes ish 14 minutes ish.00:11:56.910 --> 00:12:05.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then edit that into a nationally syndicated format, so that it can be on in all 56 different cities, at the same.00:12:09.300 --> 00:12:19.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Time and the commercial breaks were different, so I had to edit out there was only three minutes of time out of its way to edit basically a 48 minute show or 49 Minutes show down to.00:12:20.280 --> 00:12:25.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: 38 minutes or 36 minutes or something like this and it just became like it was just too much so.00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:34.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So I ended up deciding to not do the radio show anymore, but right now i'm excited to be back on the air and the show.00:12:34.650 --> 00:12:42.510 Kevin Barbaro Productions: is going to be live every Tuesday, going to be talking about my life as an actor that my my buddy Yuri here is going to be on the show here in a little bit with us.00:12:42.810 --> 00:12:54.750 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And what my life is an actor, I also own a concert production company and and and a live event production company I got a lot to talk about with that and i'm also partners in a construction company, but.00:12:55.470 --> 00:13:04.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Here myrtle beach one or two partners, and then on top of that, I started my own cat rescue and I am the crazy cat guy and we'll be talking about that.00:13:05.280 --> 00:13:08.190 Kevin Barbaro Productions: In just a couple of minutes when we come back from our commercial break but.00:13:08.940 --> 00:13:15.570 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Keep with me here we're going to be back from commercial at about a 30 i'm going to have my buddy your report he's gonna be my guest here.00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:26.460 Kevin Barbaro Productions: One of the more interesting news that I know he's the lead singer of and the founder of the McCartney years, which is a famous worldwide famous.00:13:27.390 --> 00:13:38.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: tribute to Paul McCartney, not just Beatles but the wings and but also what makes it so interesting is a lot of things, but one is he started his own to a farm.00:13:38.370 --> 00:13:54.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: in Canada and we're going to talk about that in just a little bit and they've started farm school so he'll be with us at about 830 will be back here in just a couple of minutes so just stay tuned and thank you for listening here to coffee talk XL on talk radio dot nyc.00:16:54.360 --> 00:17:02.880 Kevin Barbaro Productions: There we go a welcome back everyone to coffee talk XL this is Kevin barbro and you're listening on talk radio dot nyc and.00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:14.910 Kevin Barbaro Productions: just getting back to what I was saying before the commercial break excited to be back on the on the air side have my weekly show back and we're going to be talking about a lot of things from acting to to.00:17:15.510 --> 00:17:26.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: business to the music industry and whatnot but you know, of course, also a big part of my life through all of these years is the world of athletics, and so.00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:35.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I like to talk about you know, not necessarily the mainstream sports course I love track and field, because that's I was a college coach for that, for many years.00:17:35.940 --> 00:17:41.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so we're gonna be talking about some college track and field, going to be talking about track and field just in general, because it just.00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:51.810 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A big bit of news it's kind of hit the airwaves just in the last like 48 hours is about DK mccaffrey the the Seattle seahawks wide receiver.00:17:52.140 --> 00:18:02.820 Kevin Barbaro Productions: going to enter the USA tf golden games on NBC on Sunday and we're going to talk about that here, in just a minute, but before I get to all that I do want to take a second.00:18:03.630 --> 00:18:16.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I don't want to be debbie downer man, but I do want to take a second and just talk, talk for a minute about two really important people in my life that that I lost this past year and i'd be remiss.00:18:17.490 --> 00:18:26.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: If I didn't mention this because it is something huge has happened since the last time I had my show, and so the the first loss was that sadly.00:18:27.300 --> 00:18:37.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: my sister Wendy passed away and those people that know me and have known me for all these years, dating way back when I was a college coach.00:18:38.070 --> 00:18:49.800 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They know that I was actually the guardian of her three kids from the time that they were to form six to the time that they were 810 and 12 and.00:18:50.520 --> 00:19:00.180 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know it's a sad situation it's a sad story, I mean we find positive and in everything but back then, what happened was my sister.00:19:00.750 --> 00:19:15.090 Kevin Barbaro Productions: She had fallen into a deep depression and and you know mental health is is a big issue that really affects all of us directly and indirectly, but my sister lost her husband.00:19:16.230 --> 00:19:19.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Back in 2004 and.00:19:20.670 --> 00:19:22.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: fell into a deep depression wasn't able to.00:19:23.790 --> 00:19:30.240 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Take care of herself, let alone take care of the kids, and so I actually am valentine's day in.00:19:33.330 --> 00:19:34.530 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I picked him up and.00:19:35.700 --> 00:19:55.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They live with me for for six years till she got back on her feet and changed my life completely it may be more responsible, maybe you know I went from single guy basically just doing whatever I wanted to to all of a sudden, I got people relying on me and so.00:19:56.280 --> 00:19:59.700 Kevin Barbaro Productions: They went back to live with her, and you know she still.00:20:02.190 --> 00:20:11.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: will continue to struggle on and then in March of this past year, she passed away from complications from alcohol from liver and and kidneys and you know it's it's.00:20:14.970 --> 00:20:27.000 Kevin Barbaro Productions: it's sad to watch somebody that you care about struggle so deeply with just trying to get over her, and we all experienced adversity in our lives, my sister experience probably more than the.00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:40.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: average person does, I mean she not only had lost her husband at a young age her husband passed away when he was 43 she was only 34 at the time 33 at the time.00:20:41.550 --> 00:20:53.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And every you know you never know how much somebody can handle because 10 years before that, even before her kids were born she lost a child to leukemia is usually two and a half caitlin and.00:20:54.300 --> 00:21:03.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So, by the time I sisters what 33 years old she's already buried a baby and her husband and you know everybody's got their breaking point.00:21:03.990 --> 00:21:16.950 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so, in any event, she lost that battle and and we all miss her so much now i'm back to being the the the parent, you know of course they're grown now they're 18 a Nicholas.00:21:17.340 --> 00:21:27.450 Kevin Barbaro Productions: My nephew he's still in high school, but the other two cassie and Alex they're they're 18 and 20 and and or 19 and 21 now and and they're living up in Ohio and.00:21:30.870 --> 00:21:36.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'm just so proud of them were just in our family isn't like a really family, but this is our family, you know.00:21:36.630 --> 00:21:48.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And then the other person I lost one of my very best friends in the entire world, and anybody that met him knows that i'm not this isn't hyperbole this isn't just.00:21:49.290 --> 00:22:00.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, building something up you know, to talk about somebody that passed me this is genuinely one of the nicest coolest interesting people that you can meet and his name is phil Bauer.00:22:00.990 --> 00:22:16.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Philip was a Johnny cash impersonator but he but he was actually he was so much more than that, I mean he was just incredibly smart guy incredibly nice incredibly kind and giving and very funny like probably.00:22:17.970 --> 00:22:25.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know I I I consider myself, have a good sense of humor a lot of people think I got his sense of humor it takes a lot for me to think somebody else's funny.00:22:26.460 --> 00:22:37.260 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This dude was funny and we had a lot of great stories and I traveled as a concert promoter I was promoting a lot of his shows, so I would rent the venue and sell the tickets.00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:50.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hope to make a profit and etc, so we traveled around the country numerous numerous times and just you know it was just one of those things man, we did a show up in Wisconsin right before.00:22:51.120 --> 00:22:54.690 Kevin Barbaro Productions: right before March of this year and.00:22:55.710 --> 00:23:00.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: want to say it was march guy time is flying by so fast, but we did a show up in Wisconsin.00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:11.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He was complaining, because he didn't have a lot of energy and and he was experiencing some stomach pain, he thought that he had a hernia that seat he thought that he was having some complication that.00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:23.610 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And went to the hospital, because the pain got excruciating and dude it was like worst case scenario, yet huge tumor on his liver, a huge tumor.00:23:24.660 --> 00:23:26.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On his coat.00:23:29.100 --> 00:23:38.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: When and one of them ruptured I mean it was just and literally i've never experienced it I haven't experienced a lot of loss, I mean, obviously I lost my sister and i've lost people that care about but.00:23:39.390 --> 00:23:49.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: I haven't had a ton of loss in my life, and this was a tough one to swallow my sisters, we kind of saw it coming and obviously was tough to swallow, but with Philip.00:23:49.560 --> 00:24:00.870 Kevin Barbaro Productions: It was like we're here we're having fun we're in Wisconsin and 10 days later he's dead and it just you can't even wrap your head around it, or maybe you can maybe you've been through something like that, but.00:24:01.830 --> 00:24:09.120 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, I just wanted to send a shout out to all the people that know fill up because a lot of my friends know who he is a lot of.00:24:09.570 --> 00:24:19.050 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The people that are in my life in the world of music know who he is, and you know, he was just a great guy and my heart goes out to kimmy his wife who's.00:24:19.530 --> 00:24:32.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just the purest of hearts as well and and i'm gonna miss both Wendy and Philip so but just wanted to touch on a couple of things on in the world of sports here before we get on to.00:24:33.750 --> 00:24:41.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The second commercial break and then, when we come back i'm going to bring your report on here the lead singer and founder of the McCartney years but.00:24:41.430 --> 00:24:58.860 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Like I was saying before this past commercial break Seattle seahawks wide receiver DK metcalf has entered the USA tf USA track and field golden games on NBC it's gonna be on Sunday may 9 at 430 Eastern time from.00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:14.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: mount SAC and so here's the deal is is why does such a big deal in the world to track and field that was track and field coach many years man long time and and track I was college track athlete track track is my first love in terms of sports and.00:25:15.870 --> 00:25:20.430 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The one thing that true track and field fans can't stand.00:25:21.630 --> 00:25:31.110 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Is when we're watching other sports particularly particularly football and inevitably you can watch any.00:25:31.650 --> 00:25:43.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: broadcast have an nfl game and I guarantee you I guarantee you they're going to see a play happen they're going to see a defensive back or wide receiver that's fast football fast.00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:53.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they're gonna say inevitably he's got world class speed he's got world class B that's all they talked about he's got world class view, let me tell you something man, let me tell you something man.00:25:55.770 --> 00:26:16.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: What looks fast on TV and what is fast in real life are two completely different things because it's just a matter of perception, you know I i'm 51 years old man, I can go outside find a bunch of slow people videotape myself and you would think that that that I was.00:26:18.090 --> 00:26:22.920 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You know, speed demon but the reality is i'm just maybe faster than the people I chose to run again.00:26:26.520 --> 00:26:38.220 Kevin Barbaro Productions: So i'm not saying i'm not saying DK metcalf isn't fast okay what i'm saying is that he's going to get smoked on the track on Sunday mark my words.00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:45.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: First of all, and and I know we're going to go to commercial break here in a couple of minutes and then we'll come back and we'll talk with Yuri but.00:26:45.390 --> 00:26:50.730 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Let me tell you something, this is my take on the whole thing Okay, I think it's great for the sport of track and field.00:26:51.330 --> 00:26:58.320 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You have to get track and field is the purest of sports, it is one of the oldest sports, it is the Olympic sport.00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:13.710 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And so I love it, I think that that the amount of press that it's getting right now from the mainstream media because of DK deciding to line up and hey man kudos to this cat right he's not hyping himself up.00:27:14.100 --> 00:27:19.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: On Twitter and instagram and things like this, you know he just he's like hey man i'm just going to run.00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:31.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Because Everybody talks about how fast, he is and you see video clips in Google right now and you've seen one ridiculous play that is the one everybody sees where where he ended up catching somebody who would intercepted the ball.00:27:32.580 --> 00:27:38.100 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And and running them down and then get a touchdown but the reality is do.00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:46.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: This guy 642 29 Okay, he ran a 433 40 in college at the combine.00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:58.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: The reality is Bo Jackson is the fastest nfl player ever to play oh Jackson you would say had world class P, but the reality of Bo Jackson was he ran track and college.00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:10.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: He qualified for to nc double a indoors never made the final that's the guy that ran 4.12 seconds for 40 yards my take and we're going to go to commercial break my take on this Sunday.00:28:10.620 --> 00:28:19.740 Kevin Barbaro Productions: you're going to see at 40 meters DK metcalf maybe winning that race by 85 meters DK mccaskill the moonwalk Okay, because.00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:31.080 Kevin Barbaro Productions: At 642 29 and no track and field experience since high school and he wasn't even spring reason hurdler it just thinking to happen it's good for the sport my money is that he.00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:43.500 Kevin Barbaro Productions: said i'm a Batman so we'll be back here in just a couple of minutes I don't have my buddy Yuri pool from the McCartney years joining me and we're going to talk McCartney years and we're not tulips bro we're gonna talk to us bro.00:28:44.190 --> 00:28:49.410 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And we'll be back in a minute, this is coffee talk excel on talk radio dot nyc.00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:39.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: hey welcome back to coffee talk XL, and this is Kevin barbro you're.00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:42.150 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Listening here on talk radio dot nyc.00:31:42.540 --> 00:31:50.790 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Just coming back from the break, as I was saying before real quick just to follow up on on the whole DK metcalf thing.00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:57.360 Kevin Barbaro Productions: i'm not saying he's not fast, but he just think world class fast and we're going to find that out pretty soon so.00:31:58.050 --> 00:32:13.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: With me tonight dude I got one of my one of my good buddies one of the more interesting cats that i've met in my life and he's broadcasting right now, from it from an amazing four miles that he has up in Canada it's Yuri pool you worry how you doing today buddy.00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:17.370 Yuri Pool: hey Kevin i'm doing great how are you.00:32:17.850 --> 00:32:20.280 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Man i'm just living it brother and.00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:32.550 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And i'm digging through the hair out well I know those people that are watching the feed will be able to see it, but of course you're going to see him podcast you gotta you gotta Mane of hair going on now brother he.00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:33.960 Yuri Pool: Is no longer care.00:32:34.380 --> 00:32:39.480 Yuri Pool: yeah well yeah it is pandemic here but it's also a bit of a.00:32:40.650 --> 00:32:46.590 Yuri Pool: test to see how long I could grow my hair before the next show, because you know the funny The funny thing is.00:32:47.910 --> 00:33:01.890 Yuri Pool: In between in between tours I would always grow my beard and you know if i'd meet up with my guys in between tours everybody would be able to tell how long it was since my last gig but.00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:15.690 Yuri Pool: Obviously you know after about three or four months that beard became ridiculously big so it's like Okay, you know what i'm just gonna let the hair girl so well yeah, this is what it looks like if you don't.00:33:16.500 --> 00:33:31.140 Yuri Pool: Cut your hair for was it 1415 months, I know I lost track of time, but yeah the last time I got my haircut was, I think it was like early February 2020 so yeah that's yeah.00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:37.080 Yuri Pool: It looks pretty mean again go back to my days you know they used to wear leather jackets and cowboy boots.00:33:37.260 --> 00:33:38.130 yeah.00:33:40.230 --> 00:33:54.660 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Well, for my guests here on coffee talk XL I had mentioned already, that you had founded the McCartney years and you're the leader, you are Paul McCartney and McCartney years tribute, and so I.00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:10.980 Kevin Barbaro Productions: want to talk a little bit about just not so much even just specifically the McCartney years but you know you guys run that show it first of all it's an actual concert it's not like don't.00:34:13.590 --> 00:34:26.070 Kevin Barbaro Productions: pointed just see a tribute and somebody karaoke you know something, this is a full scale live concert, where you are able to transform the stage into Paul McCartney and wings and and his career.00:34:26.430 --> 00:34:34.230 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Tell everybody a little bit about how when did you just wake up one day and say you know what I think I sound like Paul McCartney.00:34:36.570 --> 00:34:39.720 Yuri Pool: Oh man um I mean i've always had.00:34:40.410 --> 00:34:55.170 Yuri Pool: A great love for mccartney's music, a fact, but I mean you know a lot of people do I mean if you just look at the amount of audiences that come and see your shows very diverse demographic and demographically and geographically.00:34:55.710 --> 00:35:20.940 Yuri Pool: um I mean for me the Aha moments to become a musician and to play the music of the Beatles or you know which later became occurred to me was really my dad's records my dad has all the original lps the original original English pressing from the 1960s, in his.00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:49.170 Yuri Pool: record collection at home and occasionally we on in our home but um for me the Aha moment was when my dad spun those records for me and and that's the moment I knew I wanted to become a musician and and play the music of the Beatles that's really all I wanted to do um I mean I.00:35:50.250 --> 00:35:51.480 Yuri Pool: got my first guitar.00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:51.990 When I was.00:35:53.580 --> 00:35:54.090 In Holland.00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:05.490 Yuri Pool: yeah so yeah so yeah I actually have to go back there a go back in time, a little further I grew up in Holland in the bulb fields which we'll.00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:18.420 Yuri Pool: Talk about later as well in here but um yeah I grew up in Holland and and the Beatles or or immensely famous in the Netherlands, they came to the Netherlands in 1964.00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:31.380 Yuri Pool: I asked my dad if he he'd been there, because it was born in 47 so that was right around yet another time he he would have been able to go, but he said he didn't which I didn't understand, but all right.00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:48.480 Yuri Pool: yeah so I mean I I I guy guitar from my mom when I was 11 years old, and the first song that I learned how to play was Obama do blah blah and literally from that day, for I wanted to play every single song.00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:59.100 Yuri Pool: And, by which time my dad actually taped all the LP Center little cassettes, and I would play them every day until they disintegrated.00:36:59.700 --> 00:37:15.390 Yuri Pool: And the crazy thing about it is, is that I still draw from that knowledge that I acquired over like a decade of listening to those tapes every day to be able to recognize every single instrument in every single beatle song.00:37:16.410 --> 00:37:22.650 Yuri Pool: So I mean I just don't want to listen to the Beatles I hear everything you know I hit the drums the bass, I hear all the.00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:28.230 Yuri Pool: The the the pianos and the synthesizers later on, and all the little.00:37:28.680 --> 00:37:48.720 Yuri Pool: little bits that are happening in the songs the handclaps and whatever it's just for me it's like a multi color painting in front of me, so you know I mean naturally i'm wanting to play the Beatles I I found myself in a position when I was in my early 20s.00:37:51.030 --> 00:37:52.830 Yuri Pool: going to see a friend in England.00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:09.660 Yuri Pool: was an audition being held for a Beatles production that traveled traveled all across Europe, they had been in in Japan parts of Asia as well, I was hugely interested, I think, for me it was more about.00:38:10.680 --> 00:38:18.120 Yuri Pool: connecting with like minded individuals, because I was like well why would they hire a Dutchman from Holland to do this job.00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:27.840 Yuri Pool: So I went for the audition and I I I got a couple of songs and you know saying some of this stuff they wanted me to sing and and.00:38:28.470 --> 00:38:39.330 Yuri Pool: went home later that night in London that was living in London, England and I got the call the same night and said, if I wanted to join the band, and I had like three weeks to learn the entire show.00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:43.170 Yuri Pool: Worse, I said yeah no problem.00:38:43.260 --> 00:38:53.640 Yuri Pool: You know, you know as things go my dad always used to say first tell him, you can do it then figure out how are you going to do it, so I was kind of like in a situation like that.00:38:54.270 --> 00:38:56.730 Yuri Pool: Where I had to sort of figure out how to be.00:38:57.150 --> 00:39:11.580 Yuri Pool: A become Paul McCartney in three weeks, so I I played, day and night for like three weeks straight looked at myself in the mirror, you know, a kiss because I knew obviously how Paul McCartney moved and you know i'd seen a lot of the Beatles by that time.00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:26.460 Yuri Pool: Even though was way beyond my time so and I had a guy that did Lennon in the band, he was very strict and you really helped me sort of nail down the authenticity of everything so.00:39:26.970 --> 00:39:36.660 Yuri Pool: um so it working in that band for about four years really gave me a good basis stuff and McCartney years because I know.00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:46.650 Yuri Pool: After about four years i've seen a lot, you know, I was one of the only few guys in England that could play all the instruments, you know piano and.00:39:47.100 --> 00:39:49.410 Yuri Pool: bass and guitar you know the whole spectrum of the.00:39:49.890 --> 00:40:08.250 Yuri Pool: Beatles from the early years later years, so I was quite busy with that so i've been playing in a lot of bands, so I sort of figured out after four years what I wanted in a tribute and and you know it's look of the things I really liked about how they were doing things.00:40:09.240 --> 00:40:22.530 Yuri Pool: um so yeah sort of I wanted to do something different um by that time I knew every song of the Beatles a really enjoy playing it, but I felt like I wanted more I felt like.00:40:23.130 --> 00:40:31.830 Yuri Pool: Paul mccartney's music and especially the wings was so overshadowed by by the Beatles and but yet at the same time very.00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:43.830 Yuri Pool: Very well known, I mean you know when you think about yeah songs like let them lead that and on the run and all those you know when you start naming those songs people know them, but nobody was playing them nobody was doing a show.00:40:44.790 --> 00:40:58.200 Yuri Pool: To to Paul McCartney and wings it's been a few guys by that time that we're sort of doing his whole spectrum, you know the the some of the wings stuff but then, a lot of his solo material.00:40:58.650 --> 00:41:09.450 Yuri Pool: After that, as well, I figured I really wanted to to do wings, but then you would be a hard sell because you know if you just play wings, I felt like that was a very narrow narrow market.00:41:10.290 --> 00:41:21.720 Yuri Pool: um so I had an opportunity in North America friend of mine in Canada, asked me to to come and play in the in a band for a little bit so that's how I got sort of.00:41:22.140 --> 00:41:37.980 Yuri Pool: injected into the North American music scene and coming from England people over here were like wow you know your Beatles stuff it's like spot on and and you know it's funny because a friend of mine, used to say, many years ago, once you start doing the Beatles.00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:50.370 Yuri Pool: It can never let you go, you can never let it go, but it cannot let ever let you go good, because people will always you know you around saying that so yeah I went to Canada and and the same thing happened and it's like.00:41:51.420 --> 00:42:05.820 Yuri Pool: You know why don't I start something out here so really literally off the plane I started the McCartney years, in fact, I have some really old sketches still where I was trying to draw logo and all of that.00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.130 Yuri Pool: yeah so I got a couple of guys together made like a pretty quick.00:42:12.270 --> 00:42:15.660 Yuri Pool: show a little setlist with some of the songs I really wanted to play.00:42:17.190 --> 00:42:29.880 Yuri Pool: And did that for about five years, and you know, back then, the McCartney years is really more like a project like it was really more about the music than anything else.00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:41.490 Yuri Pool: And then I I met a guy, who was a was a manager or regional manager, for the hard rock chain, and he worked a lot in the US.00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:56.940 Yuri Pool: And, Canada and we connected and and he told me point blank he said, you know you're really you're really great but um you know if you really want to take the show to the next level, you should find your nish.00:42:57.390 --> 00:43:09.960 Yuri Pool: And and build upon that and and I thought about that for a couple of weeks, and then I woke up one morning it's like you know what wings over America was one of the the the.00:43:10.590 --> 00:43:24.120 Yuri Pool: Probably the greatest tour that Paul McCartney did during wings in the 1970s, and it was right here in North America, I mean he you know played from Detroit to Atlanta, like all over the place.00:43:24.690 --> 00:43:28.620 Yuri Pool: And that's why I wanted to do so, I literally I bought the.00:43:29.310 --> 00:43:41.460 Yuri Pool: DVD and and looked at the DVD and listen to the music much in the same way that I was listening to those tapes that I had when I was a kid and studied it note by note.00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:54.210 Yuri Pool: All the moves and everything in it and the great thing about it was that that show contains songs from the Beatles as well, so here, I had an opportunity to play wings, but also to play.00:43:54.690 --> 00:44:04.920 Yuri Pool: The songs by the Beatles which really you know just holds the whole show together, you can pull those Beatles fans into the into the show.00:44:05.490 --> 00:44:09.810 Yuri Pool: And that, for me, was the Aha moment when it came to them a curtain years.00:44:10.680 --> 00:44:18.720 Yuri Pool: And and and that's how I started really focusing on getting the McCartney years into that wings over America.00:44:19.080 --> 00:44:41.520 Yuri Pool: Look and sound and that's when I started just going crazy on everything wanted to everything to be authentic from what we're wearing to to to how we look, and even the instruments we play and I know you and I have talked about this so many times, and you know I know you understand this.00:44:42.540 --> 00:44:43.410 Yuri Pool: so well.00:44:44.640 --> 00:44:54.870 Yuri Pool: The the the the level of authentic authenticity that you want to create needs to include the original instruments and a fan like myself.00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:04.140 Yuri Pool: wants to see that in the show, so I started acquiring all these instruments from all over the world, because I mean.00:45:04.200 --> 00:45:06.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: A lot of these instruments Yuri.00:45:06.090 --> 00:45:06.420 Yuri Pool: i'm going to.00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:11.940 Kevin Barbaro Productions: cut you off there for one half a second and we're going to come back and pick up with the instruments and the authenticity.00:45:12.270 --> 00:45:24.060 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And because we're going to go to commercial break right now we're gonna be back in just another minute or so and you're listening to coffee, talk, talk radio dot nyc this is coffee talk XL and give them Barbara will be back in just a minute.00:45:31.530 --> 00:45:31.740 In.00:47:37.830 --> 00:47:51.960 Kevin Barbaro Productions: and welcome back everybody to coffee talk X, though i'm Kevin Barbara and you're listening to talk radio dot nyc i'm here today and I last segment i'm finishing up our discussion here with your ripple Yuri is the founder and.00:47:54.660 --> 00:48:07.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Lead singer of the McCartney years you can you can go to their website, which is the McCartney years.net and you'll be able to see some videos and and catch up on their tour, you can also follow them on Facebook and on instagram.00:48:07.560 --> 00:48:22.200 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, and as Yuri was saying just before the break there one of the amazing amazing things about the show itself it's an actual full scale concert it's not just some karaoke thing, but with the authentic.00:48:23.100 --> 00:48:31.830 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Paul McCartney instruments so that he's completely replicating the actual sound and because that's what makes it different than just.00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:46.170 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Any other tribute, is the fact that you're picking up all the little idiosyncrasies the tiny things that make it Paul McCartney, and so that, when you close your eyes, you feel like you're listening to Paul McCartney, even though it's my it's my duty.00:48:48.870 --> 00:49:08.580 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Yuri right and so that's that's that to me, I think, is is the probably the best part of the entire show itself and I enjoy because I also promote the show, so you know put my money where my mouth is brother, but getting back man I I do want to touch on.00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:24.480 Kevin Barbaro Productions: You mentioned obviously grew up in Holland and you grew up in in the bulb fields, and so you live in Canada now you live in Ontario and you own a farm a of all how big is the farm and be evolved.00:49:25.530 --> 00:49:36.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Take us on a little journey on how all of a sudden now you want to take over the Tulip industry because dude I didn't know this until I went and visited you I didn't know this at all that.00:49:36.990 --> 00:49:44.970 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Basically, all tulips come from Holland, I didn't know that I, in a million years I never would have guessed that and so tell me.00:49:45.870 --> 00:49:58.140 Kevin Barbaro Productions: How this is evolving and kind of give us a little lay the land there for people that are that are listening in on what what new Holland, was what you call your farm what it looks like and what it's what it's all about.00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:02.970 Yuri Pool: yeah so so we live on a on a.00:50:04.020 --> 00:50:11.430 Yuri Pool: 44 acre farm so yo its decent size 25 acres is his foreign land and.00:50:12.600 --> 00:50:25.680 Yuri Pool: yeah so I mean we obviously in 2020 in March, that every musician experience was everybody's sort of got sent home because the industry collapse due to covert.00:50:26.520 --> 00:50:41.010 Yuri Pool: And you know that was awful and in in that hit I mean hit everybody in the band really hard, because I used to tell my guys in my crews like you know I don't know what's going to happen, but we have to try and stay put.00:50:42.300 --> 00:51:02.520 Yuri Pool: And you know my guys they're great they do all they've got they get busy, and all of that nobody's board, you know we all remain friends through through all of this really strong we meet like this zoom every week, so you know, for me, was also like I gotta do something.00:51:03.810 --> 00:51:08.370 Yuri Pool: To keep busy you know I mean you can only do so much music in your studio.00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:16.140 Yuri Pool: I wanted to get out and especially because the summer was coming, and you know my roots have always been following me quite literally.00:51:16.680 --> 00:51:31.590 Yuri Pool: um I grew up in in and around the ball fields in the Netherlands and around this time of year, and last year, the same time, obviously what you see along the coastline of and melons is just color everywhere.00:51:33.720 --> 00:51:45.540 Yuri Pool: Like like 10s of thousands of acres of ball fields flowering tulips like red, yellow purple white you name it everything is there and it's just fantastic majestic it's great.00:51:47.130 --> 00:51:49.440 Yuri Pool: You know, so I started thinking about like.00:51:50.730 --> 00:52:03.150 Yuri Pool: crazy ideas anything, how it started them carden years it's like i'm gonna start the band i'm going to play the music of Paul McCartney i'm going to travel the world with it, you know when I first set that people are like okay yeah right.00:52:03.990 --> 00:52:10.800 Yuri Pool: So that's what I thought you know why don't I take a little bit of Holland, right here.00:52:11.160 --> 00:52:25.200 Yuri Pool: put it in in in all the land that we have and grow to live, so I got in touch with one of my old neighborhood buddies that now happens because now everybody's old right your neighborhood bodies now all of a sudden 30 years older.00:52:25.560 --> 00:52:35.400 Yuri Pool: So you know I got in touch with him and it's like hey you know I have this crazy idea just want to grow tulips here can you help me out so.00:52:35.970 --> 00:52:43.620 Yuri Pool: he's been like answering all my questions because I knew very little of the industry, other than that i've worked at the farm, you know.00:52:44.310 --> 00:52:57.330 Yuri Pool: I i've seen obviously a lot of it, but the be insights I had no idea so i've been like on the Internet and messenger and everything with my buddy for ages, about how to grow to lips.00:52:57.930 --> 00:53:08.070 Yuri Pool: So yeah I just literally important 10,000 to live balls from the Netherlands and bought like a planter machine over there and the harvester machine.00:53:08.610 --> 00:53:20.430 Yuri Pool: And then I got like in last week and I last fall I just decided to to blend blend the bulbs and and right now they're just all flowering and it's it's amazing and.00:53:21.330 --> 00:53:36.810 Yuri Pool: yeah I I feel like you know, this is something that that we can do over here much in the same way that McCartney here the mccartney's Linda Linda and Paul have cheap on their farm and the horses and.00:53:37.470 --> 00:53:45.870 Yuri Pool: You know it's just a great way to stew relax feel good about what you're doing and it's so much more than.00:53:46.170 --> 00:53:55.680 Yuri Pool: Just the color it's just the fact that you're putting in all that work and then you look out the window in the morning and you see a sea of color that's 10,000 balls that you planted yourself so.00:53:56.220 --> 00:54:05.070 Yuri Pool: it's a very satisfying thing, but at the same time yeah people like what are you going to do with them like just keep growing them and hopefully.00:54:06.390 --> 00:54:11.160 Yuri Pool: start a little business out of it that's sort of like the long term goal, I guess.00:54:12.330 --> 00:54:13.650 Kevin Barbaro Productions: become immediately have.00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:18.030 Kevin Barbaro Productions: um so these 10,000 bulbs that you have.00:54:19.080 --> 00:54:26.760 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And they're blossoming and if you go to if you go on to instagram go to farm fairy tales that's actually Jennifer who's your wife.00:54:27.540 --> 00:54:35.310 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And she chronicles their life on the farm and it's beautiful like that she's an amazing photographer, by the way, I didn't realize that was.00:54:35.730 --> 00:54:48.600 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And, but you can see Yuri and gentlemen, there and and their two little ones on the fields but and we only have a couple minutes left, but basically the 10,000 bulbs they're blooming now.00:54:49.110 --> 00:54:59.370 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Okay, because I can see him on on instagram what happens now do you then replant does that does that 10,000 become 20,000 or how's that work.00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:12.270 Yuri Pool: yeah so so what I what we do is we take all the heads of the the the two lips it's The saddest thing about being a tool bald farmer, I should say.00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:18.570 Yuri Pool: um but yeah you take a take off the heads of the two lips, and that will happens is instead of all the energy.00:55:18.990 --> 00:55:27.960 Yuri Pool: that's in the plan going to the the flower making seed it's going back into the bulb and what happens to the ball ground is the one ball that you plant it.00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:38.760 Yuri Pool: Now grows three or four or five little bulbs, so what happens is when you take that so when when the plan starts dying off, which is a sign that.00:55:39.180 --> 00:55:47.760 Yuri Pool: for you to know this Okay, the bulb is now fully grown you take them out of the ground so you end up with like between three usually between three and four times as many bulbs.00:55:48.090 --> 00:56:02.910 Yuri Pool: That you put in the ground so the 10,000 that I have been there, right now, this summer, about admitted late June will be yeah between 30 and 40,000 and then they will go back into the ground in the fall.00:56:03.180 --> 00:56:10.380 Kevin Barbaro Productions: And man that's amazing well listen Yuri I gotta I gotta cut it short man, I could talk for hours bro so i'm going to have to.00:56:10.380 --> 00:56:11.040 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Have you by now.00:56:12.120 --> 00:56:14.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But listen yeah you know what I can.00:56:15.390 --> 00:56:23.670 Kevin Barbaro Productions: But I really appreciate you being on if you want to follow Yuri and Jennifer and their life go to the form fairy tales on.00:56:23.970 --> 00:56:25.440 Yuri Pool: On in send them all.00:56:26.100 --> 00:56:31.020 Yuri Pool: Like poor poor tall and is sort of like the the name of our farm.00:56:33.030 --> 00:56:45.270 Yuri Pool: People can people can see what we're doing there so it's yeah poor tall and and then obvious obviously the McCartney years and then our farm fairy tales it's like jennifer's like chronicle of everything that we do, including the music so.00:56:45.510 --> 00:56:51.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: awesome man Thank you so much Yuri listen we're going to be back i'm going to be back yuri's not be back i'm going to be back next week.00:56:52.230 --> 00:56:53.340 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Every Tuesday night.00:56:53.430 --> 00:57:05.130 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Thanks man, I appreciate it brother we'll catch up again soon bro, but you can catch me here at eight o'clock every Tuesday night coffee talk XL we're talking sports music acting.00:57:05.640 --> 00:57:12.900 Kevin Barbaro Productions: Two lives bro you name it we're going to be talking about it, thanks for listening and we'll be back next week on talk radio dot nyc.