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This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Elsa Kania, a Ph.D. candidate in Harvard University's Department of Government and adjunct fellow at the Center for a New American Security who researches China's military strategy, defense innovation, and emerging technologies. Elsa joins the show to discuss China's push for Military-Civil Fusion, debunking some of the myths about the program that U.S. pundits and policymakers have imbibed.03:54 – Did the concept of Military-Civil Fusion start with the leadership of Xi Jinping?06:48 What were the barriers to MCF's successful implementation before Xi's leadership?09:50 – The comparison between attempts and successes of MCF in China and the U.S.15:39 – Areas of focus of China's MCF. Which areas offer the most significant possibility for success?20:17 – A look at the perceived legal obligation of Chinese companies to participate in MCF24:59 – The collaboration between Chinese and American researchers in light of MCF31:00 – The awareness of Chinese policy-makers of the sensitivities associated with MCF by other nations34:56 – Does MCF have the same place of prominence in the Biden administration that it did in the Trump' administration?37:20 – How should we approach the policy of MCF?42:27 – Is the U.S. trying to “out-China” China?A complete transcript of this podcast is available at TheChinaProject.com.Recommendations:Elsa: Translation State by Ann LeckieKaiser: A recipe for making homemade nuomi cha / genmai cha — green tea with roasted glutinous riceSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
From August 24, 2020: In recent months, relations between the United States and China seem to have reached a new low as disagreements over trade, tech, human rights and the coronavirus have led the two sides to exchange increasingly harsh rhetoric. Just weeks ago, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo went so far as to suggest that the decades-long experiment of U.S. engagement with China had been a mistake. But is this heightened tension just a bump in the road, or is it a new direction for one of the United States's most important bilateral relationships? To discuss these issues, Scott R. Anderson sat down with an all-star panel of China watchers, including Tarun Chhabra of the Brookings Institution and Georgetown Center for Security and Emerging Technology, Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security, and Rob Williams, executive director of the Paul Tsai China Center at Yale Law School.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Fergus Hanson speaks to Manuel Muñiz, Provost of IE University and Professor of Practice in International Relations, and former State Secretary at the Spanish Foreign Ministry about how emerging technologies are affecting employment, global leadership and social and economic inequality. They explore the way these systemic inequalities are playing out internationally, and how democratic and authoritarian states are impacted. Speaker Pelosi's recent visit to Taiwan prompted a predictably strong response from Beijing, including threats of military action. Dr Alex Bristow speaks to Elsa Kania, Adjunct Senior Fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at CNAS, about China's reaction and the sentiment within Taiwan, as well as the long-term effects of the latest developments. ASPI's David Wroe speaks to Lydia Khalil, Research Fellow on Transnational Challenges at the Lowy Institute, about her latest book, ‘Rise of the Extreme Right: A Lowy Institute Paper', which takes a close look at right-wing extremism in Australia and globally. They consider how disaffection with democracy is helping fuel RWE and why people are moving away from mainstream political ideologies. Mentioned in this episode: ‘Rise of the extreme right: A Lowy institute Paper': https://www.penguin.com.au/books/rise-of-the-extreme-right-a-lowy-institute-paper-penguin-special-9781761046353 Guests (in order of appearance): Fergus Hanson: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/fergus-hanson Manuel Muñiz: https://www.ie.edu/school-global-public-affairs/faculty-and-research/faculty/manuel-muniz/ Alex Bristow: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/dr-alex-bristow Elsa Kania: https://www.cnas.org/people/elsa-b-kania David Wroe: https://twitter.com/davidwroe Lydia Khalil: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/people/experts/bio/lydia-khalil
From September 22, 2018: If you ask scientists what is most likely to kick off the next great wave of technological change, a good number will answer “quantum mechanics”—a field whose physics Albert Einstein once described as “spooky,” but whose potential, once tapped, could unleash exponentially faster computer processes, unbreakable cryptography, and new frontiers in surveillance technology.No one understands this better than the People's Republic of China, who over the last several years has built up an aggressive state-driven campaign to accelerate the development of quantum technology—a set of policies intended to put it at the very front of the pack of the next technological revolution, and all the competitive advantages it is likely to bring.To discuss this development, what it may mean for the future, and how the United States should respond, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Elsa Kania, an adjunct fellow with the Center for a New American Security and the co-author of a new report on China's efforts to achieve “Quantum Hegemony.”Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Over the past two decades, China has transformed its People’s Liberation Army (PLA) through a holistic approach — modernizing its weaponry, force structure, and approaches to warfare, to include operations in the cyber and space domains, while improving its professional military education. Although Russia remains a near-peer threat, China has ascended to become the United States’ lone pacing threat. The PLA’s momentous progress in warfighting capabilities and concepts, coupled with its whole-of-nation approach to competition, crisis, and conflict, enables it to challenge the United States across all domains and the Diplomatic, Information, Military, and Economic spheres. Army Mad Scientist interviewed the seven world-class SMEs regarding our near peer threat to learn How China Fights: Ian Sullivan serves as the Senior Advisor for Analysis and ISR to the Deputy Chief of Staff, G-2, at the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC G2). He is responsible for the analysis that defines and the narrative that explains the Army’s Operational Environment, which supports integration across doctrine, organization, training, materiel, leadership and education, personnel, facilities, and policy. Mr. Sullivan is a frequent and valued contributor to the Mad Scientist Laboratory, including the previous episode in this series, How Russia Fights. Peter Wood is a program manager and defense analyst at Blue Path Labs, a strategic advisory firm. He previously edited China Brief, a publication of the Jamestown Foundation. He has an M.A. from the Hopkins-Nanjing Center for Chinese and American Studies (HNC) and a B.A. in Political Science from Texas Tech University. He is proficient in Chinese. Elsa B. Kania is an Adjunct Senior Fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at CNAS. Her research focuses on Chinese military strategy, military innovation, and emerging technologies. Her book, Fighting to Innovate, should be forthcoming with the Naval Institute Press in 2022. At CNAS, Ms. Kania has contributed to the Artificial Intelligence and Global Security Initiative and the “Securing Our 5G Future” program, while acting as a member of the Digital Freedom Forum and the research team for the Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and National Security. Ms. Kania is a Ph.D. candidate in Harvard University’s Department of Government. She is also a graduate of Harvard College and has received a Master of Arts
In this episode of the National Security Podcast, the second instalment of our special three-part series looking at key trends influencing the future strategic landscape of the Indo-Pacific, we consider the technologies that have become critical to national security and how they're going to shape the region over the coming decades.Technology has been part of human life since shale was shaped to cut animal hide. Things have come a long way since stone was the leading edge of innovation. In this episode of the National Security Podcast, we speak to a number of scientists, researchers, strategic thinkers and analysts to find out what technologies they are working on and the ones that they think could plausibly influence the future strategic landscape.Jennifer Jackett is a Sir Roland Wilson Scholar in the National Security College at The Australian National University.Professor Claudia Vickers is leads the Synthetic Biology Future Science Platform at the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO).Dr Amy Parker is Vice-President of Earth Observation Australia.Dr Sue Keay is Chief Executive Officer of the Queensland AI Hub and Chair of Robotics Australia.Dr Atsushi Sunami is the President of the Sasakawa Peace Foundation.Michael O'Hanlon is Director of Research for Foreign Policy and Co-Director of the Center for Security, Strategy, and Technology at the Brookings Institution.Elsa Kania is Adjunct Senior Fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at the Centre for a New American Security.Chris Farnham is the Senior Outreach and Policy Officer at the ANU National Security College.This mini-series forms part of the Indo-Pacific Futures Project underway at ANU National Security College. This project, which explores the future strategic landscape of the Indo-Pacific region, offers a range of analysis and ideas, all of which is available on the Futures Hub website. In the rest of this series, experts from across the national security community will interrogate the future of the Indo-Pacific strategic landscape, evaluate the influence of critical technology on the region, and examine the rise of geoeconomics as a feature of great power competition. Don't miss the first episode of the series.The Indo-Pacific Futures Project receives support from the Japanese Embassy in Australia. ANU National Security College is independent in its activities, research, and editorial judgment and does not take institutional positions on policy issues. Accordingly, the author is solely responsible for the views expressed in this publication, which should not be taken as reflecting the views of any government or organisation.We'd love to hear your feedback for this podcast series! Send in your questions, comments, or suggestions for future episodes to podcast@policyforum.net. You can also Tweet us @APPSPolicyForum or find us on Facebook. The National Security Podcast and Policy Forum Pod are available on
This episode, we’ll ask how we can better understand those hundreds of Americans who stormed the Capitol. We’ll also look into how now may really be the time to truly expand the way we think about certain key things like what “national security” means when an insurrection can be stoked so openly, as it was in the days leading up to January 6. Our guests are Robert Pape of the University of Chicago and director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats (at the 2:45 mark); Divya Ramjee of the Center for Security, Innovation, and New Technology and Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security (at 12:20); and Peter W. Singer from the New America think tank (at 22:15). A transcript for this episode will be available soon here.
The COVID-19 pandemic is changing the global order and reshaping the balance of power on the world stage. The lessons that nations and their militaries take from this crisis will shape their capacity to adapt to COVID-19 and enhance their resilience to future crises. Elsa Kania, ISW’s Non-Resident Fellow in Indo-Pacific Security, recently published a detailed report examining China’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The Chinese state and military’s coordinated nationwide response to the COVID-19 pandemic tested their national defense mobilization and civil-military fusion strategies. These are the capabilities China would use to move from peacetime to wartime in response to potential future crises and conflicts, including with the United States and its allies. Elsa discusses her assessment of these newly revealed capabilities and more on this episode of Overwatch.
In this episode of Armchair Strategist, we're taking the conversation beyond the conventional military balance and looking at advancements India and China have been making in emerging technologies that will be key to next generation warfare. We are joined by Elsa Kania from the Centre for New American Security, who specialises in Chinese military strategy, innovation, and emerging technologies, and Kartik Bommakanti, a Fellow with ORF's Strategic Studies Programme, currently working on space and military issues. Follow Elsa Kania on Twitter: @EBKaniaFollow Kartik Bhommakanti on Twitter: @KartikBommakan1Follow Ritika Passi on Twitter: @ritika_passiFollow Angad Singh on Twitter: @zone5aviationShare your feedback on: podcasts@orfonline.org
In recent months, relations between the United States and China seem to have reached a new low as disagreements over trade, tech, human rights and the coronavirus have led the two sides to exchange increasingly harsh rhetoric. Just weeks ago, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo went so far as to suggest that the decades-long experiment of U.S. engagement with China had been a mistake. But is this heightened tension just a bump in the road, or is it a new direction for one of the United States's most important bilateral relationships? To discuss these issues, Scott R. Anderson sat down with an all-star panel of China watchers, including Tarun Chhabra of the Brookings Institution and Georgetown Center for Security and Emerging Technology, Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security, and Rob Williams, executive director of the Paul Tsai China Center at Yale Law School.
If your podcast feed has suddenly become a steady diet of more or less the same COVID-19 stories, here's a chance to listen to cyber experts talk about what they know about – cyberlaw. Our interview is with Elsa Kania, adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security and one of the most prolific researchers of China, technology, and national security. We talk about the relative strengths and weaknesses of the artificial intelligence ecosystems in the two countries. In the news, Maury Shenk and Mark MacCarthy describe the growing field of censorship-as-a-service and the competition between US and Chinese vendors. Elsa and I unpack the report of the Cyberspace Solarium Commission. Bottom line: The report is ambitious but constrained by political reality. And the most striking political reality is that there hasn't been a better time in 25 years to propose cybersecurity regulation and liability for the tech sector. Seizing the Zeitgeist, the report offers at least a dozen such proposals. Nick Weaver explains the joys of trojanizing the trojanizers, and we debate whether that is fourth-party or fifth-party intelligence collection. In a shameful dereliction, Congress has let important FISA authorities lapse, but perhaps only for a day or two (depending on the president's temperature when the reauthorization bill reaches his desk). The bill isn't good for our security, but it mostly consists of new ornaments hung on the existing FISA Christmas tree. Mark covers a Swedish ruling that deserves to be forgotten a lot more than the crimes and embarrassments protected by the “right to be forgotten.” This one fines Google for failing to cover up Sweden's censorship with sufficient zeal. Nick explains how Microsoft finds itself taking down an international botnet instead of leaving the job to the world's governments. Maury reports that a federal trial is exposing the seamy ties between the FSB and criminal Russian hackers. Now we know why Russia fought extradition of the singing hacker to the U.S. Elsa helps me through recent claims that US chipmakers face long-term damage from the U.S.-China trade fight. That much is obvious to all; less obvious is what the U.S. can do to avoid it. Nick and I talk about Facebook's suit against NSO Group. I claim that NSO won this round in court but lost in the media, which has finally found a company it hates more than Facebook. Nick thinks Facebook is quite happy to swap a default judgment for a chance at discovery. In other quick hits, the Department of Defense is wisely seeking a quick do-over in the cloud computing litigation involving Amazon Web Services and Microsoft. House and Senate committees have now okayed a bill to give the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency much-needed and uncontroversial subpoena authority to identify at-risk Internet users. Rebooting my "Privacy Kills" series, I break the injunction against COVID-19 news to point out that dumb privacy laws likely delayed for weeks discovery of how widespread COVID-19 was in Seattle. And Joshua Schulte's trial ends in a hung jury; I want to know where the post-trial jury interview stories are. Download the 306th Episode (mp3). Take our listener poll at steptoe.com/podcastpoll! You can subscribe to The Cyberlaw Podcast using iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, Pocket Casts, or our RSS feed! As always, The Cyberlaw Podcast is open to feedback. Be sure to engage with @stewartbaker on Twitter. Send your questions, comments, and suggestions for topics or interviewees to CyberlawPodcast@steptoe.com. Remember: If your suggested guest appears on the show, we will send you a highly coveted Cyberlaw Podcast mug! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.
Facebook announces the Deepfake Detection Challenge, a rolling contest to develop technology to detect deepfakes. The US Senate passes the Deepfake Report Act, bipartisan legislation to understand the risks posed by deepfake videos. And US Representatives Hurd and Kelly announced a new initiative to develop a bipartisan national AI strategy with the Bipartisan Policy Center. In research, AI allows a paralyzed person to “handwrite” using his mind. From the University of Grenoble, a paralyzed man is able to walk using a brain-controlled exoskeleton. From the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, researchers use a neural network to reconstruct human thoughts from brain waves in real time using electroencephalography. A report from Elsa Kania and Sam Bendett looks at technology collaborations between Russian and China in A New Sino-Russian High-Tech Partnership. In another response to the National Security Commission on AI, Margarita Konaev publishes With AI, We’ll See Faster Fights, But Longer Wars on the War on the Rocks. James, Witten, Hastie, and Tibshirani release An Introduction to Statistical Learning. Open Science Framework makes THINGS available, an object concept and object image database of nearly 14 GB, over 1800 object concepts and more than 26,000 naturalistic object images. And finally, Janelle Shane explains why the danger of AI is Weirder Than You Think. Click here to visit our website and explore the links mentioned in the episode.
Andy and Dave discuss the AI-related supplemental report to the President’s Budget Request. The California governor signs a bill banning facial recognition use by the state’s law enforcement agencies. The 2019 Association of the US Army meeting focuses on AI. A DoD panel discussion explores the Promise and Risk of the AI Revolution. And the 3rd Annual DoD AI Industry Day will be 13 November in Silver Spring, MD. Researchers at the University of Edinburgh, the University of Cambridge, and Leiden University announce using a deep neural network to solve the chaotic 3-body problem, providing accurate solutions up to 100 million times faster than a state-of-the-art solver. Research from MIT uses a convolutional neural network to recover or recreate probable ensembles of dimensionally collapsed information (such as a video collapsing to one single image). Kate Crawford and Meredith Whittaker take a look at 2019 and the Growing Pushback Against Harmful AI. Air University Press releases AI, China, Russia, and the Global Order, edited by Nicholas Wright, with contributions from numerous authors, including Elsa Kania and Sam Bendett. Michael Stumborg from CNA pens a response to the National Security Commission’s request for ideas, on AI’s Long Data Tail. Deisenroth, Faisal, and Ong make their Mathematics for Machine Learning available. Melanie Mitchell pens AI: A Guide for Thinking Humans. An article in the New Yorker by John Seabrook examines the role of AI/ML in writing, with The Next Word. And the Allen Institute for AI updates its Semantic Scholar with now more than 175 million scientific papers across even more fields of research. Click here to visit our website and explore the links mentioned in the episode.
In this episode we sit down with Elsa Kania to discuss her work on Chinese defence innovation, including the modernisation of cyber forces in the military. We also found time to delve into 5G and get Elsa’s take on the situation in Australia. Elsa Kania is an Adjunct Fellow with the Center for a New American Security’s Technology and National Security Program. Her research interests include Chinese military modernisation, information warfare, and defence science and technology. Elsa is an independent analyst, consultant, and co-founder of the China Cyber and Intelligence Studies Institute (CCISI). She was also a 2018 Fulbright Specialist with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s International Cyber Policy Centre and has been named an official “Mad Scientist” by the U.S. Army’s Training and Doctrine Command.
Discussions of Chinese artificial intelligence often center around the trope of a U.S.-China arms race. On this month’s FLI podcast, we’re moving beyond this narrative and taking a closer look at the realities of AI in China and what they really mean for the United States. Experts Helen Toner and Elsa Kania, both of Georgetown University’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology, discuss China’s rise as a world AI power, the relationship between the Chinese tech industry and the military, and the use of AI in human rights abuses by the Chinese government. They also touch on Chinese-American technological collaboration, technological difficulties facing China, and what may determine international competitive advantage going forward. Topics discussed in this episode include: The rise of AI in China The escalation of tensions between U.S. and China in AI realm Chinese AI Development plans and policy initiatives The AI arms race narrative and the problems with it Civil-military fusion in China vs. U.S. The regulation of Chinese-American technological collaboration AI and authoritarianism Openness in AI research and when it is (and isn’t) appropriate The relationship between privacy and advancement in AI
This week on Bombshell Loren and Erin hold down the fort and ask the brilliant Elsa Kania to explain the new Chinese defense white paper. Britain has a new PM, Pakistan’s visited the US, and there are ongoing protests in Moscow and Hong Kong. Meanwhile, we might have a budget deal? And the president keeps trying to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia. Erin finally saw Capt. Marvel and we collectively wish cast a real Mara Jade adventure. Links China Mike Yeo, "China: US in Pursuit of Absolute Military Superiority," Defense New, July27, 2019 Anthony H. Cordesman, "China's New 2019 Defense White Paper," CSIS, July 24, 2019 Elsa B. Kania, "Innovation in the New Era of Chinese Military Power," CNAS, July 25, 2019 Elsa B. Kania, "China's Army Can intervene in Hong Kong, Says Beijing," CNAS, July 24, 2019 Imran Khan Asad Hashim, "Q&A: Was Pakistan PM Imran Khan's Visit to the U.S. a Success?" Aljazeera, July 25, 2019 Michael Kugelman, "Despite Khan's Visit, U.S.-Pakistan Ties Aren't Ready for a Reset," World Politics Review, July 26, 2019 Russia Protests "Russia Protests: Thousand Arrests at Moscow Rally," BBC, July 27, 2019 Hong Kong protests "Hong Kong: Thousands Mobilize for Anti-Triad Rally," DW, July 27, 2019 Budget Deal Burgess Everett and Melanie Zanona, "Trump Fumes Over Border Wall as Budget Deal Advances," Politico, July 28, 2019 Hyten Confirmation Helene Cooper, "I have a Moral Responsibility to Come Forward: Colonel Accuses Top Military Nominee of Assault," New York Times, July 26, 2019 Produced by Tre Hester
This week on Bombshell Loren and Erin hold down the fort and ask the brilliant Elsa Kania to explain the new Chinese defense white paper. Britain has a new PM, Pakistan’s visited the US, and there are ongoing protests in Moscow and Hong Kong. Meanwhile, we might have a budget deal? And the president keeps trying to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia. Erin finally saw Capt. Marvel and we collectively wish cast a real Mara Jade adventure. Links China Mike Yeo, "China: US in Pursuit of Absolute Military Superiority," Defense New, July27, 2019 Anthony H. Cordesman, "China's New 2019 Defense White Paper," CSIS, July 24, 2019 Elsa B. Kania, "Innovation in the New Era of Chinese Military Power," CNAS, July 25, 2019 Elsa B. Kania, "China's Army Can intervene in Hong Kong, Says Beijing," CNAS, July 24, 2019 Imran Khan Asad Hashim, "Q&A: Was Pakistan PM Imran Khan's Visit to the U.S. a Success?" Aljazeera, July 25, 2019 Michael Kugelman, "Despite Khan's Visit, U.S.-Pakistan Ties Aren't Ready for a Reset," World Politics Review, July 26, 2019 Russia Protests "Russia Protests: Thousand Arrests at Moscow Rally," BBC, July 27, 2019 Hong Kong protests "Hong Kong: Thousands Mobilize for Anti-Triad Rally," DW, July 27, 2019 Budget Deal Burgess Everett and Melanie Zanona, "Trump Fumes Over Border Wall as Budget Deal Advances," Politico, July 28, 2019 Hyten Confirmation Helene Cooper, "I have a Moral Responsibility to Come Forward: Colonel Accuses Top Military Nominee of Assault," New York Times, July 26, 2019 Produced by Tre Hester
Artificial intelligence is poised to transform the world. And just as Sputnik's launch brought fears of a foreign power's mastery of technology, the anxiety behind this battle for control of artificial intelligence is driven by fears of what an authoritarian power could do with it. Interviews include: · John Everett, director of the Information Innovation Office, DARPA · Wendy Hall, co-author of the UK’s AI strategy · Elsa Kania, senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security · Lynne Parker, assistant director of artificial intelligence at the White House office of science and technology policy · Elissa Strome, Canadian Institute for Advanced Research · Amy Webb, NYU Stern School of Business
In this episode, we speak to Elsa Kania, whose research is at the forefront of efforts to better understand the way China approaches innovation and military technology. From artificial intelligence to automation to railgun technology, we discuss Chinese technological priorities and how they overlay on its strategic objectives.
Elsa Kania discusses the potential and concerns of cutting-edge technologies that are underpinning the competition between the U.S. and China, especially in the race towards supremacy in AI and 5G Elsa Kania is an independent analyst, consultant, and co-founder of the China Cyber and Intelligence Studies Institute. She is an Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Center for a New American Security. Among her many accolades, she’s also been named an official “Mad Scientist” by the U.S. Army’s Training and Doctrine Command. Elsa is also a doctoral candidate at Harvard University's Department of Government. This episode was recorded at UC San Diego, and is a production of the 21st Century China Center Editor/Host: Samuel Tsoi Production Support: Mike Fausner Music: Dave Liang/Shanghai Restoration Project
Chapter one: Staying in power (at the 1:24 mark); Chapter two: Revising history (19:57); Chapter three: Some thoughts about how to move forward (37:53). Like last week, our guests include Samantha Hoffman of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute; Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security; Greg Poling of the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Andrew Wilson of the U.S. Naval War College (not speaking on behalf of the Navy or the Defense Department); and Pamela Crossley of Dartmouth University. Special thanks as well this week to Paulina Glass. Music by Terry-Devine King, Chris Blackwell and Tim Garland via AudioNetwork.com Related reading: "Social Credit" by Samantha Hoffman via ASPI + "Xi’s China Is Steamrolling Its Own History," by Pamela Crossley + "Battlefield Singularity Artificial Intelligence, Military Revolution, and China’s Future Military Power" by Elsa Kania via CNAS.
This week on the program, we’re going to explore the U.S.-China relationship beginning with tensions in and around the South China Sea. It's broken up into three parts: 1. How did all this begin? (at the 2:58 mark) 2. What's in it for Beijing? (11:16) 3. Where to go and what to know from here (24:28) Our guests include Samantha Hoffman of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute; Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security; Greg Poling of the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Andrew Wilson of the U.S. Naval War College (not speaking on behalf of the Navy or the Defense Department); and Pamela Crossley of Dartmouth University. Special thanks as well to Paulina Glass, Katie Bo Williams and Marcus Weisgerber. • Related reading: "Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap?" by Graham Allison. (https://www.amazon.com/Destined-War-America-Escape-Thucydidess-ebook/dp/B01IAS9FZY) and "China Goes to Sea," a 2009 collection of essays from the Naval Institute Press (https://www.amazon.com/China-Goes-Sea-Transformation-Comparative/dp/1591142423).
If you ask scientists what is most likely to kick off the next great wave of technological change, a good number will answer “quantum mechanics”—a field whose physics Albert Einstein once described as “spooky,” but whose potential, once tapped, could unleash exponentially faster computer processes, unbreakable cryptography, and new frontiers in surveillance technology. No one understands this better than the People’s Republic of China, who over the last several years has built up an aggressive state-driven campaign to accelerate the development of quantum technology—a set of policies intended to put it at the very front of the pack of the next technological revolution, and all the competitive advantages it is likely to bring. To discuss this development, what it may mean for the future, and how the United States should respond, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Elsa Kania, an adjunct fellow with the Center for a New American Security and the co-author of a new report on China’s efforts to achieve “Quantum Hegemony.”
China has taken significant steps to implement national strategies and encourage investment aimed at surpassing the U.S. in high-tech fields like artificial intelligence. In this podcast, Paul Haenle sat down with Elsa Kania, Adjunct Fellow at the Center for a New American Security and Carnegie-Tsinghua Young Ambassador, to discuss the growing competition in the development of technology and innovation on the U.S.-China relationship and the consequences for future cooperation in these fields.
China today is Black Mirror through the Looking Glass. A national video surveillance network is promised in just two years, while new technologies are being rolled out at speed on the frontier of China’s surveillance regime, in Xinjiang, ranging from iris scans to phone surveillance apps. Simultaneously the Chinese state is building a nationwide social credit system, to be launched in 2020, which provides incentives for citizens to participate in their own surveillance. To unpack China’s dystopian present, Louisa and Graeme are joined by Elsa Kania from the Center for a New American Security, Lotus Ruan from the University of Toronto’s Citizen Lab, and Samantha Hoffman from the Mercator Institute for China Studies in Berlin. Image: Oliver Jeannin (Flickr) All three guests have recently written reports for the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, links below Elsa Kania: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/technological-entanglement Lotus Ruan: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/big-data-china-and-battle-privacy Samantha Hoffman: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/social-creditSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Artificial intelligence poses a number of different threats. It can make existing weapons more sophisticated and dangerous, it can help develop new weapons entirely and it can easily be used to create the ultimate surveillance state.All of that is happening particularly quickly in China, which has stated ambitions to lead the world in AI in the near future. Security expert Elsa Kania joins us to explain what’s going on.You can listen to War College on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or follow our RSS directly. Our website is warcollege.co. You can reach us on our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/warcollegepodcast/; and on Twitter: @War_College. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
In this episode, we speak to Elsa Kania, whose research is at the forefront of efforts to better understand the way China approaches innovation and military technology. From artificial intelligence to automation to railgun technology, we discuss Chinese technological priorities and how they overlay on its strategic objectives.
Mick chats with Elsa Kania, Adjunct Fellow - Technology and National Security Program at Center for a New American Security (CNAS). They chat about her recent paper on Chinese developments in Artificial Intelligence and their military application, Battlefield Singularity. Elsa also discusses the differences and similarities between the China and the United States in the development of Artifical Intelligence for the battlefield. Elsa gives a fresh answer to the final question. Join the members' community at Patreon for exclusive content, access to our forum and more. You can also grab a book & crack on here.
In our 196th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker, Brian Egan, and Nick Weaver discuss: China’s perspective on “sovereignty in cyberspace” emerges at China’s World Internet Conference although there is perhaps a ray of hope for US companies from a sidelines discussion with China’s governing cyber official on China’s cyber law; US financial institutions and their “project doomsday”; Nick Weaver asks what Apple is doing for pen/trap orders; unmasking rules changed as advocated by, uh, me; Germany calling for back doors in devices; Ethiopia spying on US-based journalists and human rights activists; our guest interview is with Elsa Kania, Adjunct Fellow with the Center for a New American Security. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.