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In this special midterms edition of “The Conversation with Dasha Burns,” Adam Hamilton, the pastor and Democratic candidate challenging Sen. Roger Marshall, sits down with Dasha at a campaign office in Kansas to discuss why he thinks the race is competitive – and why he believes a moderate, bridge-building approach can win over voters in this deeply Republican state. Hamilton talks about the cost of fuel and tariffs, the war in Iran, his appeal to Republican voters and the role of faith in politics. He also responds to criticism from Sen. Ted Cruz over his theology, discusses whether Democrats can win over evangelical Christians and weighs in on whether President Donald Trump is a Christian. Check out our new POLITICO podcast “Decoded,” starting on Monday, October 5. It will be a daily brief on the people, power moves, policy battles and market shifts defining what's next in global technology. Subscribe here: https://pod.link/politicodispatch Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

In this special midterms edition of “The Conversation with Dasha Burns,” Gina Hinojosa, the Democrat running for governor of Texas, sits down with Dasha at her campaign headquarters in Austin to talk about why she believes the race against Greg Abbott is newly competitive — and the lessons Democrats should take for 2028.  In the interview, Hinojosa discusses her pitch to working Texans, her push for a $1,500 “corruption tax refund,” the fight over public schools, abortion access, immigration enforcement, Latino voters, data centers and AI, and what she thinks national Democrats should learn from her campaign. Hinojosa argues Texas voters are entering a “post-partisan” moment, driven by frustration with both parties, corporate power and the cost of living. “Is this the billionaire's world and we just live here?” she says. “That is the fight in America. It is the fight for Texas.” Have thoughts for The Conversation? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Mosca's Restaurant for a wide-ranging conversation about President Trump, the future of the Democratic Party and whether he might run for president in 2028. Landrieu discusses why he believes Joe Biden should not have sought reelection, how Democrats lost working-class voters, the rise of the Democratic Socialists of America and what it would take to rebuild trust in American institutions.     He also reflects on post-Katrina New Orleans and the lessons Louisiana politics offers the rest of the country. Landrieu previously served as the White House's infrastructure coordinator after two terms as New Orleans mayor.     Plus: Jonathan and Landrieu dig into Mosca's chicken à la grande, oysters Mosca and other Italian-Creole specialties. 

Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who lost his reelection bid to a Trump-endorsed challenger, joined Dasha to discuss the future of the Republican Party and reflect on how to make Congress more effective as he enters his final months in office. Cassidy, a physician and chair of the Senate Health Committee, also addresses his vote to confirm HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the measles outbreak and vaccine policy, the influence of the MAHA movement, Social Security's looming funding crisis and the need for congressional guardrails on artificial intelligence. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Dasha sits down with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) at the Republican midterms convention in Dallas to discuss President Trump's tariffs, the economy and the GOP's prospects in November. Cruz explains why Trump “changed” his views on trade, responds to the president's proposed $5,000 dividend for American adults, and weighs in on Tucker Carlson and concerns over AI's threat to humanity — including why he says he'd prefer “American killer robots” to Chinese ones.  Plus, Cruz warns that Republicans face a defining debate over the party's future and begins to make his 2028 case ahead of a possible presidential bid.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Salt Lake City's Red Iguana for a wide-ranging conversation about his new book, “Off Ramp: How to Be a Peacemaker in an Age of Contempt,” and the forces driving America's political divide.  The Republican governor discusses political violence, social media's role in fueling polarization, his relationship with President Trump and why he says he is not running for president. He also weighs in on the Republican Party's future, immigration reform and what it will take to rebuild trust and community in American life.

Stephen A. Smith is best known for sports commentary. But now, he's weighing in on the direction of both political parties — and even considering a potential 2028 presidential run. In a wide-ranging conversation with Dasha, the outspoken analyst explains why he believes he could win the presidency but won't give up his career to campaign. He also discusses what he thinks is wrong with today's political class, his criticism of the direction of the Democratic Party, Donald Trump's appeal to voters, his interviews with controversial figures and the 2028 contenders he's watching — including a MAGA Republican he could consider voting for. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Sen. Susan Collins joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Perry's Lobster Shack in coastal Maine for a wide-ranging conversation about her reelection fight in the senate, President Trump's second administration and the future of the Republican Party.   The Maine Republican also discusses Canadian tariffs, immigration enforcement, her independent record and the challenge of appealing to voters in an increasingly nationalized political environment. Collins makes the case for bipartisan governing — and argues that there is still room for a political middle.   Plus, Jonathan and Collins dig into a classic Maine meal of lobster, steamers and clam chowder. 

The 2026 midterms are taking shape, and the results could determine the future of both parties.  Dasha sits down with her fellow Playbook co-authors Adam Wren and Will Steakin to examine what the primaries have revealed about Trump's influence, the Republican coalition and the Democratic Party's identity crisis. They discuss Trump's $400 million MAGA Inc. war chest, the power of online politics, progressive upsets and moderate wins, and the three key states they think will be the best test of the national political environment in November.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

In a new episode of the On the Road, Jonathan Martin sits down with Iowa gubernatorial candidate Rob Sand at the Iowa State Fair to talk politics over a pork tenderloin and a deep-fried Twinkie. Sand, a Democrat running in a state that has shifted sharply to the right, makes the case that Iowa voters are fed up with one-party control, corruption and politics as usual. He discusses why Democrats have lost ground in rural America, whether the party has become too focused on insiders and national politics, and how he would govern with a Republican legislature. Sand also weighs in on the future of the Democratic Party, his unlikely friendships with Republican governors — and his brief career as a model.

Social psychologist and “The Anxious Generation” author Jonathan Haidt helped turn concerns about kids and social media into a global political movement. Now, as Meta faces a consequential trial over youth safety and addiction, Haidt tells Dasha why he believes the courts may succeed where Congress has failed — and why the fight is only getting bigger. Haidt also sounds the alarm on AI, warning that the threats to children could go “far beyond” social media and arguing that policymakers can't afford to give AI companies the same free pass. And with restrictions on social media gaining bipartisan support, he weighs whether protecting kids from Big Tech could become a winning issue at the ballot box. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

In a live taping of the show in Sacramento, Sen. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) weighs in on whether insurgent candidates on the left could become a liability for Democrats — and on how the party should reckon with its past embrace of “woke” politics.  Dasha also presses Schiff on where he stands on California's proposed billionaire tax, his opposition to recent arms sales to Israel, and whether he'll continue accepting support from AIPAC.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Speaker Mike Johnson sits down with Dasha for a wide-ranging interview as Republicans fight to hold onto the House majority. Dasha presses Johnson on why voters remain unhappy with the economy despite Republican promises, whether rising gas prices and the conflict with Iran could derail the GOP's midterm hopes, and why he believes Republicans can overcome decades of history working against the president's party. Dasha asks Johnson about his relationship with President Trump – questioning whether he ever tells the president "no" and why Senate Majority Leader John Thune appears more willing to publicly push back. Johnson also addresses the mounting allegations against Rep. Max Miller and weighs in on what Abdul El-Sayed's victory says about the direction of the Democratic Party. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536

Former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin in Traverse City, Michigan, to discuss the future of the Democratic Party and why he believes Democrats can't simply campaign on a return to the pre-Trump status quo. Buttigieg argues the party needs to "build what's next," weighs in on the Michigan Senate race, reflects on his time in the Biden administration, and shares his vision for institutional reform, AI, economic inequality and the road to 2028. Plus, he gives Jonathan a tour of his adopted hometown—including a stop for Traverse City's famous cherry ice cream. 

FCC chairman Brendan Carr sits down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns for a wide-ranging interview on the growing power of the FCC under President Trump. Dasha presses Carr on his warnings that broadcasters could lose their licenses, accusations that the agency is being used to target the president's critics and concerns that the FCC has become increasingly politicized.  Carr also weighs in on what he believes the FCC's role should be in a media landscape increasingly dominated by social media and streaming. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Rahm Emanuel joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Michael's Original Pizzeria on Chicago's North Side for a wide-ranging conversation about his political future, the Democratic Party's identity crisis and why he's seriously considering a run for president in 2028.    The former Chicago mayor, Obama chief of staff and U.S. ambassador to Japan reflects on the biggest mistakes of both parties, argues Democrats need to win back the political center, weighs in on Israel, China and Donald Trump, and explains why he believes America is at a political turning point.    Plus: Chicago tavern-style pizza, growing up on the North Side and the childhood experience that still drives Emanuel today. 

California Attorney General Rob Bonta joins Dasha to explain why he's trying to block Paramount's proposed merger with Warner Bros. Discovery, and defends California's antitrust agenda. He also weighs in on AI regulation, election security and why says his office will keep suing President Trump whenever it believes the law has been broken.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Abdul El-Sayed – the progressive former public health official running for the Democratic nomination in Michigan's open Senate seat – joins Dasha to explain why he believes "both parties are lying" to working Americans, unleashes on the ‘hypocrisy' of the Democratic establishment, and defends his record on “Defund the Police,” ICE, socialism and more.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

At the 2026 NATO Summit in Ankara, Secretary General Mark Rutte joins Dasha to discuss NATO's historic defense spending overhaul, Russia's war in Ukraine, Greenland, President Trump's demands of the alliance, and whether NATO can withstand growing questions about America's future role in European security. Plus, POLITICO's diplomatic correspondent Felicia Schwartz and defense reporter Jack Detsch give their takeaways from the summit.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, Gov. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) and Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) join POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at the Little Missouri Saloon in Medora for a conversation about the newly opened Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library, why the Badlands helped shape one of America's most consequential presidents and how they're betting the landmark will transform North Dakota.    They also discuss President Donald Trump's agenda, the future of the GOP, the politics of conservation and why they believe Theodore Roosevelt's legacy still offers lessons for America as the nation celebrates its 250th birthday. 

As America marks 250 years since its founding, award-winning documentarian Ken Burns joins Dasha to reflect on what history can teach us about this political moment. In this wide-ranging interview, Burns discusses what lawmakers misunderstand about the founding of our nation, what George Washington would think of Donald Trump, and whether the American experiment can survive the next chapter. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

Dasha sits down with Finnish President Alexander Stubb in Helsinki for a wide-ranging conversation on NATO, Russia's war in Ukraine, Iran and the future of America's relationships with allies around the world.  Stubb, who has developed an unusually close personal relationship with Donald Trump, discusses how he approaches the president behind closed doors, why he believes Ukraine has the upper hand in the war against Russia and how he remains confident in NATO's future. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jack Schlossberg joins Dasha to talk about his campaign for New York's 12th congressional district, his viral online persona and why he thinks Democrats need to be more “controversial” in the Trump era.  Schlossberg discusses what he says Democrats got wrong in 2024, why he believes attention is political power, how the party can reach young male voters, and why he sees himself as part of a new generation trying to change Democratic politics. He also weighs in on his Kennedy family legacy, RFK Jr., Israel and Gaza, impeachment, super PAC spending, and why he says he has “no regrets” about anything he's posted online. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At POLITICO's Energy Summit, Dasha presses EPA administrator Lee Zeldin on rising gas prices, the war in Iran, Trump's energy dominance agenda, coal, AI data centers, and whether the EPA has a responsibility to address climate change. Zeldin defends his approach, arguing that the EPA can protect the environment while growing the economy and rejects the idea that his agency should lead the fight against climate change – unless Congress tells him to. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong sits down with Dasha for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of crypto, the growing political influence of the industry, and his vision for a world increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence.  Plus, he responds to JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon's recent attack, after Dimon called him “full of s--t,” and explains why he's still “a little perplexed” by the personal animosity. Have feedback for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Every week on this show, Dasha Burns talks to the most compelling and sometimes unexpected power players in Washington and beyond. But for this special first anniversary episode, she turned the microphone over to you … our listeners.  “How do you prepare for high-stakes interviews?”  “Why has Washington left Gen Z behind?” “How has covering politics changed you?”  Dasha answers your burning questions, weighing in on everything from the most interesting under-the-radar character at the White House to why her news diet is a “hot mess.”   Have feedback for “The Conversation?” Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gov. Josh Shapiro (D-Pa.) sits down with POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Angelo's Pizzeria, a South Philly institution, for a wide-ranging conversation about the future of the Democratic party, rising cynicism in American politics and the growing speculation around his political future in 2028. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ukraine's ambassador to the United States Olga Stefanishyna joins Dasha Burns on “The Conversation” to discuss whether the U.S.-Israel conflict with Iran could pull American attention and weapons away from Kyiv, the state of Ukraine-Russia peace talks and why President Trump and Volodmyr Zelenskyy's once-rocky relationship has become “iconic.” Have feedback for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore sits down with POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Baltimore's iconic Koco's Pub for a wide-ranging conversation about redistricting, the future of the Democratic party and how his military service shaped his views on patriotism, race and America's role in the world.  Moore also opens up about Donald Trump, Joe Biden's decision to stay in the presidential race too long, Kamala Harris' future and why Democrats can't spend years “studying” voters' frustrations instead of fixing them.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dasha sits down with Reza Pahlavi, the exiled former crown prince of Iran, for a live taping of “The Conversation” at POLITICO's Security Summit.  In a wide-ranging interview, Pahlavi discusses the latest on the war in Iran, whether diplomacy with Tehran is possible and the future of the Iranian opposition movement.  Have a question for our anniversary special? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Leon Panetta, former Defense Secretary and CIA director under President Obama, joins Dasha Burns to assess the U.S. conflict with Iran, warning that unclear objectives, a closed Strait of Hormuz and uncertain nuclear negotiations could leave the U.S. stuck in a prolonged war. Plus, Panetta defends President Biden's handling of the Israel/Gaza conflict but says Biden “should have been much tougher” in providing weapons for Ukraine. Leave us a voicemail or shoot us a text with your questions for our first anniversary special: 202-643-1536. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gov. JB Pritzker (D-Ill.) sits down with POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at Chicago's iconic Manny's Deli for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of the Democratic Party -- and his own.  Plus: a look at Chicago's political culture, Pritzker's rise from donor to power broker, and why Manny's remains a must-stop on the campaign trail.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Sacks has played a key role in shaping AI policy for the Trump administration. He was formerly the White House AI and crypto czar. Now, he's the co-chair of the President's Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.  Sacks approaches the issue with a “let them cook” philosophy. Meaning, he thinks the way for the United States to win the global AI race is to move fast with minimally disruptive regulation. But with that comes a lot of questions about AI disruption to the workforce, who should be held responsible for harm caused by AI platforms, and the fear and division within America over the future of the technology.  Sacks joins Dasha Burns in a wide-ranging interview to discuss it all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Go behind the scenes of White House Correspondents' Dinner weekend with Tammy Haddad, a veteran TV executive and one of DC's ultimate social connectors.  POLITICO's Dasha Burns and Tammy unpack why this dinner — which brings together the president, journalists and celebrities all in one room — is so important in Washington, and what really happens when the cameras are down.  Tammy also shares insider stories from years past involving Barbra Streisand, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Kim Kardashian, Pamela Anderson, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

California's governor's race just got a major shakeup. Democrat Eric Swalwell dropped out amid sexual assault and misconduct allegations, and now the field is wide open ahead of the June 2 primary. So where does that leave Republican candidate and former Fox News host Steve Hilton – backed by Trump and rising in the polls? Does the GOP have a shot at turning California red? Dasha Burns sat down with Hilton to talk about the state of the race, the impact of Trump's endorsement, and where he thinks Democratic leadership is coming up short. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) joins POLITICO's Jonathan Martin at the Masters to talk Trump, 2028 and the upcoming Georgia Senate race. Plus: Kemp on EVs, economic policy and why he's staying focused on 2026 — not the White House.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) – the MAGA acolyte-turned-antagonist who resigned from Congress after a public and messy fight with Donald Trump – joins “The Conversation” to talk about the war in Iran, why she thinks the GOP will be “slaughtered” in the midterms and her desire to build a new political coalition in America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Artemis II has launched around the moon. Now, NASA has its sights set on Mars. NASA administrator and billionaire private astronaut Jared Isaacman sat down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns at Kennedy Space Center to talk about NASA's ambitious plans to build a moon base, sending humans to Mars, his relationship with Elon Musk and why we could all have 3D-printed spare livers in our fridge someday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andy Beshear is the most popular Democratic governor in the country – in a state Donald Trump won by more than 30 points in 2024. He explains why he believes a President JD Vance could be “more damaging than Trump”, lays out his playbook for winning back voters in Trump country, and calls out the litmus test he thinks Democrats should abandon. Can a Democrat who wins in deep-red Kentucky translate that success nationally? Beshear argues why someone like him may have an advantage at the top of the Democratic ticket in 2028. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we're bringing you an episode from our new show, On the Road. California Gov. Gavin Newsom sat down with POLITICO's Jonathan Martin for a wide-ranging conversation about the personal experiences that shaped his political career. A leading potential contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2028, Newsom has been raising his national profile by taking on President Donald Trump and traveling to key early primary states while promoting his new memoir. In the interview with Martin, Newsom reflects on his upbringing, outlines what he sees at stake for Democrats in 2026 and explains his increasingly aggressive strategy toward Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) won his Senate seat in 2024, he outperformed Kamala Harris in one of the closest battleground states in the country.  Now that he's in Washington, Gallego's background is particularly relevant at this moment in politics. With the Iran War intensifying, Gallego offers his perspective as an Iraq War veteran on Trump's military operation.  And as a Latino Democratic senator of a border state, Gallego has a distinctive outlook on immigration, with criticism for his own party as well as the GOP.  Sen. Gallego sat down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns on “The Conversation” to talk about voter ID, the 2028 election, and if he thinks Democrats can become the “fun” party again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we're bringing you an episode from POLITICO's latest show, On The Road with Jonathan Martin. In episode one, JMart sits down with Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders for a lively conversation about politics, leadership and life growing up in a political family. From her time as White House Press Secretary to leading Arkansas today, Sanders shares insights on the Republican Party, U.S.-Israel security and the memories that shaped her journey—all while enjoying some of the state's best barbecue.  You can find more episodes of On The Road on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube.com/Politico. The Conversation with Dasha Burns will be back soon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sen. Katie Britt (R-Ala.) is a young rising star in the Republican Party. She sits down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns to talk about how the war against Iran could affect Americans at home and the urgency of the midterm elections for the Republican Party. Britt also gets candid about her unique relationship with the White House and what it was like having Scarlett Johansson play her on SNL. And later on the show, Dasha breaks down the exciting Texas primary elections with a panel of journalists. Elaine Godrey of “The Atlantic,” Gabby Birenbaum of “The Texas Tribune” and POLITICO's Adam Wren share their takeaways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.) joins POLITICO's Dasha Burns on "The Conversation" and responds to President Trump's State of the Union address. Slotkin lays out her vision for the future of the Democratic Party, which could be a Project 2029 for the party. The two also discuss the upcoming midterms and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy joins POLITICO's Dasha Burns to discuss the United States' role in ending the war, where Europe fits into the equation, and his frank thoughts on Russians living abroad. Then, CNN's chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward calls in from Ukraine to discuss the current climate in the country and how the Ukrainian people are doing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) sat down with POLITICO's Dasha Burns on "The Conversation" for a wide-ranging discussion covering his stance on immigration and ICE, voter ID, Israel and where he sees himself within the Democratic Party. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Venezuelan politician and opposition leader Maria Corina Machado says that Venezuela could have a new democratic election in less than a year. The Nobel Peace Prize winner joins POLITICO's Dasha Burns for “The Conversation” in a compelling interview that occurred exactly one month after the US captured Venezuelan's authoritarian leader Nicolas Maduro. Machado opens up about her hopes for the nation's future– and what her own path forward may be. Plus, progressive political YouTuber Brian Tyler Cohen sits down with Dasha to unpack the increasingly blurry line between journalism and content creation. He also shares what the future of progressive politics will look like in 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Senator Thom Tillis calls for the resignation of Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller in a forthright interview with Dasha Burns for “The Conversation.” The North Carolina Republican made his comments after the shootings of two citizens by ICE agents in Minneapolis earlier this year. In a wide-ranging discussion, Tillis talked about tariffs, his hopes for President Trump and his worries for the future of the Republican Party. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent spoke with POLITICO's Dasha Burns at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in our first episode of 2026. The two spoke just after President Trump's speech that riled U.S. allies. Burns and Bessent spoke on tariffs, Greenland, America's changing role in the global economy and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy holidays! "The Conversation" will return with a new season in January 2026. In the meantime, listen to some of the most memorable moments from the show in 2025 — including our interviews with President Donald Trump, Texas state representative and U.S. Senate candidate James Talarico (D), Trump 2024 and RNC Political Director James Blair, President of The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Richard Grenell and Rep. Sarah McBride (D-Del.).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gates Foundation co-founder Bill Gates joined POLITICO's Dasha Burns on this week's episode of The Conversation to discuss his continued support for vaccine philanthropy, the impact of government aid cuts in global health, AI, vaccine skepticism and much more. The interview took place shortly after the release of The Gates Foundation's Goalkeepers Report projects, which predicts that child deaths will rise in 2025 for the first time this century. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices