Un-Machine Yourself

Hatch Invites is a remote and in-person platform that explores the transformative power of humanized leadership. Hosted by Joris van Heukelom, a researcher and partner at Hatch, Hatch Invites features interviews with leaders from all industries and walks of life. Guests discuss their personal leadership journeys, the elements of humanized leadership they believe are crucial for success, and how to build and lead human-centered organizations. Our guest, Skyla Herod, a behavioral neuroscientist, shares her expertise on how our brains work and how we can use this knowledge to make better decisions. Here are three key takeaways from the podcast: - Our brains are wired to prioritize safety and efficiency, often leading to irrational decisions. - We can train our brains to become more rational by understanding how neural networks and biases work. - By taking more time for decisions, breathing through our initial impulses, and reflecting on our values, we can make more conscious choices. About Dr. Skyla Herod, Ph.D.: Dr. Skyla Herod, Ph.D., is a behavioural neuroscientist with Hatch. She applies her expertise in brain-behaviour relationships to executive development and workplace transformation. With a 20 year career in academia and industry, Dr. Herod combines scientific rigour with practical insights to create brain-based strategies that enhance leadership, employee well-being, and organizational culture. She helps organisations drive sustainable growth and long-term success through tailored, neuroscience-informed interventions.

Hatch Invites: SPEED UP! - AI-thens Manuel, Nora and Tatjana In this episode of Hatch Invites, host Joris van Heukelom will explore the aftermath of the Deutsche Telekom SPEED UP AI-thens event with 3 special guests from Deutsche Telekom. Focusing on the theme of leading with care in the age of artificial intelligence.

Hatch Invites: Wes Adams In this episode of Hatch Invites, Joris van Heukelom introduces Wesley Adams (Wes), the CEO of SV Consulting Group and a positive psychology researcher at the University of Pennsylvania. Wes is set to speak at Hatch Invites: 2024, focusing on humanizing humans and the mission of Hatch to promote self-awareness, finding direction, effective collaboration, and embracing imperfections. Positive psychology, as Wes explains, centers on practices and structures that lead to high well-being and reaching one's full potential, moving beyond the traditional focus on clinical challenges. Wes emphasizes the importance of positive psychology in achieving holistic well-being and the historical roots of this approach in ancient wisdom. The conversation touches on the significance of leaders in creating meaning at work, with Wes stressing the impact of leadership practices and organizational structures on individual and collective well-being. The three main sources of meaning—community, contribution, and challenge—are discussed, along with examples of companies successfully fostering meaningful work, even in remote settings. Joris highlights the increasing importance of meaning in work and the potential consequences for companies that don't adapt, citing higher turnover and decreased job satisfaction. Wes also addresses the financial impact, stating that meaningful work leads to lower turnover, increased revenue, and enhanced creativity and innovation. The discussion concludes with advice for leaders, encouraging them to engage in conversations with employees about what makes work meaningful and take intentional steps to foster a meaningful work environment. Hatch Invites: 2024 Many organizations see endless opportunities to make things better, healthier, smoother, and more efficient. They are often excited about artificial intelligence. We at Hatch believe that technology will never distinguish the potential of organizations unless you relentlessly focus on the potential of the Humans within. Our focus is to put a spotlight on the potential of humans. Humans as individuals, humans in group, humans in relation to technology. We call it Humanizing Humans. At Hatch we believe it should be the main topic of your agenda in 2024. Humanizing humans is about self-awareness and direction, about collaborating in groups, about fears and fantasies. About the imperfections that make us perfect. To share our focus and insight we would like you to attend “Hatch invites 2024" More information and tickets here https://www.iamhatch.com/events-art/hatch-invites-2024

Hatch Invites is a remote and in-person platform that explores the transformative power of humanized leadership. Hosted by Joris van Heukelom, a partner at Hatch, Hatch Invites features interviews with leaders from all industries and walks of life. Guests discuss their personal leadership journeys, the elements of humanized leadership they believe are crucial for success, and how to build and lead human-centered organizations. Hatch Invites is a valuable resource for anyone who wants to learn more about humanized leadership and how to apply it in their own work and life. About our guest László Kónya: László is CEO of Deutsche Telekom IT Solutions HU. He is a digital leader, emotional intelligence champion, and agile mindset advocate. He is passionate about making an impact and developing business. Proven track record of success in driving innovation and growth.

After reading through Ruben Nieuwenhuis' CV, Roanne was confused - and a bit dizzy. He is the director of TechConnect, a Tech Talent program to activate & educate underrepresented groups into tech/IT jobs; but he is also a book author, as well as a social entrepreneur and the founder of many startups and companies (TechGrounds, Boeren voor Buren, TekkieWorden, CupolaXS, TechMeUp, Growth Tribe); sits in many different advisory boards (Codam, International Advisory Board, Amsterdam [Economic Board](www.amsterdameconomicboard.com/en/who-ar…#advisory), Future NL) and next to all that, he seems to be the driving force of just about a thousand initiatives. “So how can I describe your job function, exactly?”, Roanne asks before meeting Ruben at the Amsterdam SOHO house for this recording. Halfway during the interview, she decides: he must be an octopus, which totally makes sense to Ruben. Towards the end of their conversation, however, they both realize he can't be under water, at all: he needs to be on bridges, as those are his natural environment. Don't worry: just tune in, and all will become clear. Ruben also shares how he spent quite a bit of time in his career in helping a world that was, he later understood, increasing inequality and exclusivity. Courageously enough, he decided to then radically change gears. Listen how, and why. In this conversation, Ruben shares: - How he long worked in the techindustry without realizing how exclusive it was - How, when that realization finally came, he radically changed his goals - Why he is so committed to diversity, inclusion and equality of opportunity - How he combines all his jobs, without being busy - Why he forces himself to read book he does not want to read - and why you should, too - Why, as a good leader, you should be in touch with both the high ranks, and the target audience, in order to understand the whole SHOWNOTES: This podcast was hosted by [Dr.](www.roannevanvoorst.com/) Roanne van Voorst and facilitated by [HATCH](www.iamhatch.com/) - an experiential learning platform helping you and your company become future-proof. Ruben mentions the book [Humankind: A hopeful History](www.amazon.com/Humankind-Hopeful…man/dp/0316418536), by Dutch historian Rutger Bregman. And the book by Marleen Stikker: [Het Internet is Stuk](www.bol.com/nl/nl/f/het-interne…k/9200000115140353/) (the internet is broken, unfortunately not translated in English): He also tells about the cooperative economy that inspired him so much in [Jacksonville](cooperationjackson.org/). And shares his favourite, often uncomfortable podcast: [The All In](www.allinpodcast.co/) Find Ruben on [Linkedin](www.linkedin.com/in/rubennieuwenh…inalSubdomain=nl), or on Twitter: @rubenswindow

In today's episode, Roanne meets with Araz Najarian. She enables leaders, teams, and organisations in being purposeful and relevant. Both those that are scaling up and need support in creating focus and pacing their growth, and also those companies stalling in their growth and needing to re-frame and re-ignite their innovative spirit. How does she do that, asks Roanne? The short answer is: by being curious, and by sparking people's creativity - yes, even those who insist they are not at all creative. Araz lives in the Netherlands with her husband and their beagle, and while she loves her work, she also enjoys leaving enough space in her life to go on new adventures and learn new skills. This is a conversation on invoking inspiration, daring to connect, daring to ask, and daring to grow. Enjoy! Links mentioned during the podcast: Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: Informal Talks on Zen Meditation and Practice, Shunryu Suzuki: “In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few.”: www.goodreads.com/book/show/402843…_Beginner_s_Mind Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gett…ss/id1068563276 Note to Self with Manoush Zomorodi: The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life, Twyla Tharp: www.goodreads.com/book/show/254799…e_Creative_Habit The Age of Surveillance Capitalism, Shoshana Zuboff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Surveillance_Capitalism Solid Project, Tim Berners Lee: solidproject.org/ And if anyone is interested in some of the insights Araz mentioned from her ELP Network projects and research, they can find it here: www.elpnetwork.com/en/insights www.linkedin.com/in/araznajarian/

Martine Beijerman is a Dutch author and legal scholar and currently lives in the USA. Her main research interests are democracy, rule of law and inclusion/exclusion. She has obtained her PhD on democratic legitimacy of international lawmaking. In her book Vreemde eenden (2021 Uitgeverij Podium) she explores the tension between our democratic ideals of equality and freedom and the harsh reality of exclusion, ranging from racism, homophobia, antisemitism and everything in between. She examines the role of group dynamics, the media, and unconscious biases and concepts such as power, fear, shame and status. By bundling scientific research and interviews with leading scholars and thinkers, Martine tries to find answers to the pressing questions: why do we exclude the other? Who benefits from exclusion? And why is there so much resistance to talk about it? More info on Martine: martinebeijerman.com www.linkedin.com/in/martine-beijerman-phd-03335a9 www.instagram.com/martinebeijerman

"We should slow down", says change manager Patrick van der Voorn, and: "to be human, means to be humiliated." Roanne figured that that was enough reason to invite him over for a podcast! She and Patrick discuss: - what working in 5 stars hotel taught him: especially that time when there was a fire and he was on the 24th floor, with all of his guests - what are the urgent questions in companies, noone dares to asks (but change managers must!) - the meaning of his motto: give direction, lead the way - why future leaders need to slow down, AND: fall down. - why true leaders, should dare to get their guards down (and their ties off) - and why we should all invest in 'sensitizing' ourselves Patrick recommends us all to go and try rinsinyoku, AKA: Japanese forestbathing. Roanne tried it already and loves it - let us know what your experience was!

Some people in this world, but not so many nowadays it seems, are truly humble. This woman is one of them - in the intro to the podcast, Roanne will give you the living proof. Meet: Lara van Druten, CEO and founder of The Waste Transformers, an award-winning company that works worldwide to deal with waste in a way that is environmentally ánd socially sustainable. She's a powerhouse, but, as said: a humble one. Lucky for us, she packs her story full of positive inspiration on how to make change, while also making money. Roanne and Lara discuss: How young Lara saw what no one back then saw: we need online universities (and she opened one!) How she then saw that the current waste system, is simply stupid How she managed to found a smarter waste company - without any relevant study background (but she has a major in philosophy, as well as in international politics, amongst others!) Why she allows chaos in her mind What good plans all need if they want to turn into successes (hint: business!) Why words like value and purpose, actually became valuable again

Derek Bruce on the importance of storytelling at work, and sneakers in life If we want to be successful at work in the future, we all need to learn how to tell good stories, says Derek Bruce. He is an HR and talent-development senior, who has been working all over the world with market leading global organizations in the Fashion, Financial Services, Media, Retail and Technology industries. At this moment, he works for Signify as a Director of Leadership Development, as an independent learning and development consultant, ánd he manages the Extraordinary Mentors Network, a mentorship program which provides People of Colour with Mentors. Derek met Roanne in the beautiful Amsterdam SOHO house to share his views on work and leadership of the future. In the episode, we talk about: - Why we all need to become storytellers in order to be successful at work - How writing can help you to communicate better to your colleagues (and boss!) - Why sometimes, the best thing you can do for your company, is refuse that job - Why the best leaders, are selfless leaders… - And the boss-like, very green, very cool shoes that he is wearing. Obviously. Roanne mentions the book ‘Weapons of Math Destruction', by Cathy O'Neil: https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Destruction-Increases-Inequality/dp/0553418815 Derek tips the ‘10% happier podcast': https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast/ Find more information on Derek: LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekbruce Instagram ->https://www.instagram.com/derekbruceassociates Twitter -> https://twitter.com/derekbruceassoc

Marieke Vinck, creative director of CharlieMary on circular fashion and uncomfortable change When has it become so normal to throw away clothing we have hardly worn? What is circular fashion? And how on earth do you convince people to change their business model, if they aren't even interested? In this episode, Roanne meets Marieke Vinck - co-founder & creative director of CharlieMary - the agency of six of the most forward-thinking labels in the benelux, and a circular fashion essentials label. Marieke shares insights on the fast fashion industry, where she started her career, and explains what has to change, and how she tries to take slow, sustainable fashion, from niche to norm. Roanne and Marieke discuss: - How fast fashion kills creativity - How you can make clothing, without producing any waste - Why change is always uncomfortable - What are the main challenges if you want to radically change a field - Why collaboration is the way forward Marieke tips the documentary ‘The True Cost', and Roanne refers to an older episode on fair fashion, with Marieke Eyskoot. You find it here: https://www.iamhatch.com/blog/7-marieke-eyskoot-this-is-a-good-guide-how-doing-good-can-be-combined-with-doing-business More info on Marieke and her work: website: www.charliemary.com instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charliemary.official/ facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CharlieMary.official/

Robert Overweg on disruptive art, adaptable mindsets and the future of education We, humans, typically try to construct meaning of all that we experience. We see something, something happens to us, and our brains - essentially predicting machines, help us to navigate through an uncertain future - make up a story. This podcast episode is meant to disrupt that. You will hear it in the tone of the conversation, that flows and glows - Roanne and her guest -  artist, adaptation expert, education innovator and artist Robert Overweg - feel a click as two humans sometimes do when they first meet. Not love, not even a flirt, but definitely some sort of resonance - as if you instantly understand each others' way of thinking and work. Maybe there is no perfect word for that, and that's fine (although our brains don't like that!) You will hear it in the tips to art and books that will leave you astounded and confused. You will note it in the conversation about Robert's internationally renowned artwork, which is mindblowing (check the link in these shownotes if you want to see it!) You will sense it in the way Robert works: he is extremely successful, yet extremely relaxed if one looks at his schedule. This man has clients like Vodafone, Liberty global, eBay, Heineken, a variety of startups, and innovative schools (including the one owned by Elon Musk!) and is the cofounder of the Adaptable Mindset Program that has already been applied at several fortune 500 companies, SME's, and which supports over a thousand students and solopreneurs, ánd his artwork was featured in Centre Pompidou and on the Seoul Biennale. And yet, he explains to Roanne that he rarely picks up his phone, takes long walks in the forest on workdays, and believes the best ideas come when he is not working. So, in this episode we discuss: - The future of education - Which artwork left him confused and inspired, and why - How his own art-career was ‘scary as shit' - The importance of taking forest baths - Why busy people need to not answer their phone - Why we all need to study technological developments. Now. Enjoy the beautiful mess, dear listeners ;-) SHOWNOTES: Art by Robert can be found here: [https://www.shotbyrobert.com/](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/) Or here: [The end of the virtual world](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/end-of-the-virtual-world) Or check out his series ‘Flying and Floating' as it was shown in the Centre Pompidou: [https://www.shotbyrobert.com/flying-and-floating](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/flying-and-floating) Find more information about Robert and his work on: [www.adaptablemindset.com](http://www.adaptablemindset.com/) Or connect with him on the socials: [https://twitter.com/RobertOverweg](https://twitter.com/RobertOverweg) [https://www.instagram.com/theadaptablemindset/](https://www.instagram.com/theadaptablemindset/) Roanne mentioned a book she wrote on fear, or more specifically, on how the world's best climbers and other extreme athletes cope with overcoming fear. The English version of that book is sold out, internationally, but still available in E-version for Kobo E-readers: [FEAR!](https://www.kobo.com/nl/nl/ebook/fear-123) The Dutch version is still available: [Alles Onder Controle](https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/alles-onder-controle/9200000057446925/) Robert advises listeners to keep updated with what is happening in the world of tech. Here is how to start: [https://www.adaptablemindset.com/blog/what-is-happening-in-tech](https://www.adaptablemindset.com/blog/what-is-happening-in-tech)

Mariah Mansvelt Beck always aimed to have a positive impact on the world. This led her to working for Doctors without Borders - at headquarters as well as in the field - to being a social worker as well as to giving yoga and meditation classes - something she still does. When Mariah was 30 she found out she was developing cervical cancer. This sparked an interest in her health and led her together with friend Wendelien Hebly to realize no ingredients were listed on the packaging of regular tampons, pads and liners. Together they started Yoni. Yoni is a fem care brand aiming to break open the taboo around menstruation and to provide healthy, sustainable alternatives to regular fem care. They now have organic cotton tampons, pads and liners as well as more sustainable options like the menstrual cup and period proof underwear. For more information check out https://www.yoni.care Interview Questions - what did you want to be when you grew up? - so tell me about your company, work now. - in times of robotization, polarization, AI; what keeps us, humans, on the right track when it comes to work that we value? (you may also make this personal, so what keeps YOU on the right track)? - what did you have to learn most, to get there? - what do you think future proof companies/leaders need, when it comes to capabilities or strategies? (fx. they need to dare and take risks in increasing uncertainty, or they need to become more inclusive) - do you have a book, or a podcast or film or quote that inspires you a lot and that you could share with our listeners? Show Notes Ever considered to slow down, on your leadership journey? In this episode, Mariah Mansvelt Beck - cofounder of fem care company Yoni - argues that pausing may be a key future capability - to pause, before making a decision, but also to lower your pace on busy days. Or even: creating more space in your life. She practices what she preaches: after launching a company that would radically change the field of fem care, she now only works for Yoni 2 days, allowing more space for teaching Yoga, enjoying motherhood and inspiring change on many levels. Roanne and Mariah discuss: - Why chemicals are not for pussies - How her health situation inspired her to start a fem care company - Her background: from humanitarian, to care worker, to entrepreneur - Why Yoni does not believe in fixed office times - Why silence is scary - Which meditation helps her through confrontational meetings and challenges Mariah tips the 6 faces meditation: https://www.mindvalley.com/learn-meditation/ and Martha Beck books: https://marthabeck.com/books/

Let's discuss a topic that is as hot as it is uncomfortable: flight shame. Do you have it, every time you fantasize about buying a ticket for a plane? Roanne certainly does. Never flying again is one future scenario, but flying in a more sustainable manner, is another one - and that's the one we talk about today. We do so with Maarten van Dijk, managing director of SkyNRG - the pioneer and global market leader for sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). Having supplied over 30 airlines on all continents, it is their mission to make SAF the new global standard. That demands visionary leadership. Courage, and being able to engage in complex conversations, because boy oh boy, will this company meet a lot of scepticism - until they reach enthusiasm. Whilst getting to know Maarten, Roanne also found out that he seems to possess some other skills that future leaders need: realism, the guts to NOT jump on every opportunity,  and a surprising amount of humbleness. In this episode, we talk about: Maartens' journey from being a pioneer in the industry, where his product was still unknown and even perceived as unsafe, to being a big player in the field. Why saying ‘no' is a must if you want to grow - as a company, and as a leader. How to create a working culture in which little time is spent on back-reporting. Why he is willing to step down and be paid less, than his next CEO. This podcast is hosted by Futures-Anthropologist Dr. Roanne van Voorst, and facilitated by Hatch (www.iamhatch.com) - helping you and your company become future-proof through experiential learning, art, good food, connection and more surprises than you ever expected the future to hold! For more information on SkyNRG: www.skynrg.com Or find Maarten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartenvan-dijk/)

Robyn M. Bolton is considered an expert in corporate innovation. She has worked as an “intrapreneur” at P&G where she was part of the team that launched Swiffer and Swiffer WetJet, a partner at Clayton Christensen's growth consulting firm, and she is also the founder of MileZero, an innovation consulting and coaching firm.  She has advised companies ranging from global leaders like Nike, Comcast, and Medtronic to mid-sized companies like Curriculum Associates and Hallstar Beauty. Today, Roanne asked Robyn to talk about a rather specific topic. A future-lesson, so to speak, that Robyn has for all leaders. Namely, the topic of innovation and that what we call at Hatch: the courage to look at your company or team or task, in a radically different way than you used to do. As well all know, that is needed for the unknown futures that we are going to conquer. Robyn uses different words to describe what needs to happen. Or actually, what NOT needs to happen. She defined Things Leaders Do That Kill Innovation, and found out What to Do Instead. In this episode, Robyn shares: - how the very behaviors that make leaders successful conspire to kill innovation - why these behaviors are so dangerous, and - what leaders can do to truly be innovation champions and get the innovation results they want. This podcast is hosted by Futures-Anthropologist Dr. Roanne van Voorst and facilitated by Hatch. Helping you and your company become future-proof through experiential learning, art, good food, connection and more surprises than you ever expected the future to hold! For more information on Robyn: http://www.milezero.io/ or follow her on https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynmbolton or Twitter: @RM_Bolton

Have you ever met a futurist before? Roanne did, many times - she's actually one herself! - and found that they have several things in common. Futurists are multi-interested, stubborn and autonomous thinkers, and highly original and creative. So, let's meet one of the Netherlands' best futurists of our times, today: Karsten van der Donk, and see what rings true for him! ;-) Originally trained as an art historian, Karsten became the owner of a catering company, worked in an internet start-up, turned to become a certified yogateacher and then, in 2015, became partner at Paris/Amsterdam based organization Cosight: the meaning management company, working on futures for humans and brands. Their clients include Automotive and several international personal care brands. In his work, Karsten blends sociology, semiotics and psychology - from a human-centric point of view. That were a lot of words, but what it comes down to is: looking at challenges and opportunities that come with the future, and see what might be the role of brands, therein. Here at Hatch we essentially focus on the same but focus more on the people in the brands: the leaders, the staff...all of them have to possess or strengthen a certain set of skills in order to excel in the future. These include what we in our Un-Machine Yourself signature training define as intuitive thinking, stepping outside of routines, courageousness, flexibility, autonomy, resilience…. Karsten will also touch on many of these topics, we promise! In this episode we talk about: What we can learn from other cultures when it comes to navigating unknown territories Why meaning becomes more important for companies and individuals, and how meaning becomes practice Why long-term goals are crucial, but short-term strategies are better What the leader of the future holds More information on Karsten: www.cosight.com

Louis de Jaeger (Greenpreneur) on battling helplessness and doing the impossible Louis De Jaeger travelled around the world for 5 years and saw that we're destroying it. At the same time he found out that people feel helpless about this. And what he they do? He co-founded a train company: Moonlight Express. Bringing nighttrains back into Europe, going from Belgium to Germany. He does way more. He did years of research into sustainable farming, visiting projects from New York to Morocco and wrote a book about the future of agriculture. With a simple and clear message he shows how we as a citizen can play a role in saving our planet with every bite we take. He's an international keynote speaker and designs permaculture and food forest farms, co-Founder of ByeByeGrass and Food Forest Institute. His ambition is to transform 15% of European agriculture into food forests. In this episode we talked about: Why you should do exactly what feels too scary to do The two main reasons why people don't start up their businesses Louis' personal tip to reach sustainable success and become a ‘pioneer tree' Why aiming high, is a safe bet More info on Louis: www.louisdejaeger.be More info on how you can become courageous: https://www.iamhatch.com/muscle-up-your-courage

With Blue Artichoke Films (Amsterdam), Jennifer Lyon Bell creates award-winning erotic fiction films, documentaries, and virtual reality experiences that illuminate the riveting, intimate, and sometimes delightfully awkward side of sex. Their unique realism leads them to be featured at conferences/panels worldwide in diverse fields ranging from sexology to philosophy. Jennifer also curates erotic film exhibitions for museums and festivals, and consults on sexuality for international TV and film. She teaches at the Dutch Film Academy and gave the closing keynote, about Empathy And Pornography, at the first Sex And The Cinema film studies conference (UK). She teaches her popular workshop “From Fantasy To Film: Design Your Own Erotic Movie” worldwide. SXSW/Playboy/Vice/Dazed www.blueartichokefilms.com In this podcast, we talk about: How jennifer went from harvard to porn Why you should, from now on, pay for porn How she manages to make award-winning erotic films Her values on treating actors Leadership in eroticism And that one time actors just kept coming ;-) For more on Jennifer: www.blueartichokefilms.com

Umar Mirza on diversity, inclusivity and why flat companies own the future Umar Mirza is a social entrepreneur, change agent, and debat eleader, and his expertise is to scale up social impact projects and companies. He is a founding partner of MDI consultants, a consultancy company with a focus on Social Innovation. He started the Scholierentop, which gathers college students on a platform to influence the future of their own city. He is Executive Partner of Ekmekci, a fast growing franchise chain of restaurants in the Netherlands with over 120 employees, and he is one of the driving forces of NL2025, a network of CEOs and social leaders who help to scale up projects to improve education, health and entrepreneurship in the Netherlands. In this episode, we discuss: - why small-scale and medium companies have the future - the difference between inclusivity and diversity - why bureaucracy is off, while flat companies are on - how hiring a person for their first job can lead to them becoming entrepreneurs - intergenerational differences between GenY and... all the rest More information about Umar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umarmirza/ More information about MDI Consultants: https://www.mdiconsultants.nl/

Melanie Rieback is an award-winning computer scientist, and co-founder of Radically Open Security, the world's first non-profit computer security consultancy company. She works with ethical hackers for clients like Google and Wikimedia. She is also a former Assistant Professor of Computer Science at the VU, and worked in research and management roles at Citrix and ING, among others. With her work she won many awards and prizes, including the TIM Award for "Most Innovative IT Leader of the Netherlands" in 2017, and the EU Women Innovators Prize in 2019. In this episode, we discuss: - how she manages to give ALL of the profit of her company away, while still thriving - why antiviruses will not protect your company (or laptop), while open access will - the crucial importance of security tech-companies collaborating, in the future - why she decided to give her clients full openness in the workflow, including chatting with her ethical hackers - what she means by a post-growth movement, and why companies should join, now - why investing in startups might not be the best idea - while bootstrapping is More information about Melanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrieback/ More information about Radically Open Security https://www.radicallyopensecurity.com/

Joep Langen is a social entrepreneur, (TEDx)speaker, and moderator. Although he started his career as organizational psychologist and transition consultant, he changed course in 2014, and co-founded Koeckebackers, a commercial sustainable do-good company, which gives opportunities to young disadvantaged adults by offering them a job and a professional talent development programme. People with a distance to the jobmarket are offered a 12-month Social Impact Traineeship trajectory which includes a paid job in the cookie-factory, but also coaching, sports, workshops, training and reflection-meetings. Joep and his colleagues believe that this will not just benefit their staff, but also wider society. Their ultimate goal: make people feel that they are seen, inspire and motivate other companies to copy-paste their do-good activities, and bake darn good cookies. In this episode, Joep explains: Why consciousness is the number one thing we all need for the future Why leaders have to become more courageous and vulnerable than ever before Why they built a blueprint for other companies to use, free of charge Why inclusivity-debates all too often miss the point: to be human, is to long to be seen. More about Joep: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werkmetjoep/ More about Koeckebackers: https://koeckebackers.nl/

Eveline Helmink is a journalist, writer and editor in chief. She is a self-titled cheerleader for failure and discomfort: true happiness isn't about cutting out the bad days, it's about accepting life as it is, including the “not so nice” feelings like grumpiness, sadness or discomfort. Therefore, she wrote The Handbook for Bad Days, Shortcuts to Get Present When Things Aren't Perfect, a handbook full of practical, no-bullshit, proven strategies to face our worst days with compassion, courage, and resilience. Whilst being editor in chief of Happinez, this formerly-niche magazine turned into a hugely popular and commercially successful magazine, and won two Mercur Awards in 2019. In this episode, we discuss: Why sometimes, saying f#*k you to highly paid marketing folks is the best you can do What remote work teaches all leaders about trusting your staff How courage, solace, resilience & meaningfulness help her in managing her team, and living her life More info on Eveline: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eveline.helmink/

Rob van den Dool is cofounder of Yumeko, a social enterprise with an ambitious goal: to change the world. How? By changing the industry that has been doing a lot of wrong to people and the planet, and improving it: the bedding industry. Now, they sell ecological ethical bedding and linen produced without child labor, permanent environment pollution and exploitation of earth, people and animals. Instead, Yumeko only works with companies that meet the strict requirements of Fairtrade or the Global Organic Textile Standard (GOTS). Moreover, every year Yumeko publishes an Impact Report, with clear figures and facts about the positive impact they made that year. In this episode, Rob explains: - how commercial sales can go hand in hand with genuine idealism - how their cotton production has helped to decrease cancer in Indian villages - why Yumeko has a 'happiness index' and employees score their own emotions - what he learned to do when things were rough - and why he believes all leaders should aim for this, too Hosted by Roanne van Voorst. Producer: Gabriella van der Linden. Sound: Yuri Blaak

Marieke Eyskoot is a sustainable fashion and lifestyle expert, and puts contemporary, conscious living on the map. She is a sought-after (TEDx)speaker, event presenter, consultant for companies that aim to do better, and co-founder of international fair fashion trade show MINT. She is also the author of the modern handbook This is a Good Guide – for a sustainable lifestyle, filled with practical and positive tips regarding fair fashion, clean beauty, real food, eco travel and a low-impact home; empowering citizens to make their choices matter. Her book has an adult and youth version, and has sold over 30,000 copies worldwide. Today we will talk with her about Sustainability, taboo-breaking and the worldwide movement she initiated: #SustainabilityAgainstShame, putting a spotlight on how we’re being shamed into buying more and more – which not only makes us feel bad about ourselves, but makes us treat the planet badly too. In this podcast, we discuss: - why the first question ANY startup should always ask themselves, is not how to scale up or find their niche, but whether they need to exist at all (auch) - how doing good can be combined with doing business - how corporates can change our beauty standards, or other things that matter for our society and wellbeing More information about Marieke can be found on her website: https://www.mariekeeyskoot.nl/ and Instagram @mariekeeyskoot.nl. Hosted by Roanne van Voorst. Producer: Gabriella van der Linden. Sound: Yuri Blaak

Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten is a serial Internet Entrepreneur, and has founded many start-ups. One of them was HubHop, the first Wi-Fi hotspot operator in The Netherlands. But most people will know him from TNW (The Next Web) as its co-founder and running CEO. TNW is a future-proof tech media company which organises among others The Next Web Conference , a yearly Internationally focused Internet Conference where attendees, start-ups and speakers from all over the world come together to discuss the future of the web. And they have a blog with news aimed at Internet professionals from all over the world, which has over 6 million pageviews per month. In this episode, Boris explains: Why dropping out of school was the best thing that happened to him Why you should do business with a smile and a drink in a bar instead of having strict office conversations in suits Why while you focus on having fun, money will follow Why he thinks it is super important to show your humanity, especially in tech More about Boris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/borisvvz/ More about TNW: https://thenextweb.com/ Producer : Gabriella van der Linden

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Kemo Camara is social entrepreneur, community organizer and Diversity & Inclusion Advocate. The past 20 years, he has lived and worked in cities across Africa, The United States, and Europe. He has founded different start-ups, built non-profit organizations, and played various leadership roles in community organizations. His latest founding is called Omek, a professional platform designed to uplift the African diaspora. In this episode, Kemo explains: - why a safe space and empowerment are the key elements to let your people (and thus your company) flourish - why companies at job interviews shouldn’t focus on the hard skills the person has, but on the soft skills -why looking outside your own bubble is the way to diversity and inclusion -why you need people at HR positions who really understand the concept of inclusivity and diversity, and truly live it, to make an actual change in your company More about OMEK: https://myomek.com/ More network platforms: AfroTech - https://afrotech.com/ CJS - https://www.creativejamsession.nl/ Afrispectives - https://www.afrispectives.com/ Black Ladies Talk - https://blackladiestalk.com/ Producer: Gabriëlla van der Linden

Tom van der Lubbe is a visionary, sustainable entrepreneur, speaker, and writer. He co-founded Viisi Mortgages, the first financial organization in the world to implement Holacracy: an horizontal, self-governing and self-managing organization. In Holacracy the purpose or goal of the organization that should be the leading factor, and not the CEO or a manager. So Tom believes in a "why" of individuals and organisations. The "why" is the motivational engine that gives fulfilment in what we do. Today we get to talk to him about his most interesting vision on the future of work and organizations. In this episode, Tom explains: - why he thinks decentralized decision making is way more productive than micromanagement - why psychological safety is the key to high performing teams - why big bonuses are unnatural to us as humans, and are counterproductive - why everybody should be a leader, and nobody THE boss More about Tom: https://www.viisi.nl/over-viisi/team/tom-van-der-lubbe/ More about Holacracy: ‘Getting Teams Done’ - Diederick Janse & Marco Bogers ‘Reinventing Organizations’ – Frederic Laloux Corporate Rebels: https://corporate-rebels.com/ In the interview Tom mentions the layoffs at Heineken that morning. He decided to write an opion article about those layoffs, which was published in Dutch in the newspaper Trouw: www.trouw.nl/opinie/kiest-de-co…r-belang~b603da91/ And in English at the international platform Corporate Rebels: https://corporate-rebels.com/future-of-capitalism-swinkels-or-heineken-economy/ Producer: Gabriella van der Linden

Binnaz Cubukcu is an established leader and a trusted advisor in learning, knowledge management and leadership within the retail world. During her 20+ years in the corporate world, she has led teams through change, driven learning agendas in digital transformations, created and facilitated relevant and even award-winning learning experiences. Since 2005, she has been working at IKEA, where she has fulfilled many different leadership roles in learning design, competence development and conceptualisation. And she is the learning experience advisor of Hatch. Today we talk to her about one of her areas of specialty: future capabilities and future leadership. In this episode, Binnaz explains: - why, as a leader, it is super important to know what makes the people in your team tick - why curiosity and conversation are the key elements to keeping your team creative and free in their thinking - why value driven recruitment is the way to diversity and inclusion - why she believes that the times of bureaucracy, hierarchy, and strict organisations within companies are over More about Binnaz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/binnaz-cubukcu-07040a5/?originalSubdomain=nl Producer: Gabriella van der Linden

Ewout Karel is a Corporate Jammer, Professional tinkerer, and an Innovation Specialist. Since 2015, he has worked as innovation manager at T-mobile. He is co-founder and the innovation director of Chateau, a creative powerhouse in Amsterdam. And his love for jamming and innovation even resulted in his book Corporate Jamming 1.0. In this episode, Ewout explains: - why he thinks its super important that big corporates work together with small techs and startups - why a corporate is NEVER the one that drives the innovation - why you shouldn’t spend your day on rigid contract conversations, but on creative informal coffee agreements - why drinking coffee with strangers is the best thing you can do as an innovator More about Ewout: https://corporatejamming.com https://chateau.amsterdam More about Jelle’s startup Care-Riing: https://care-riing.com More about David Marquet, retired US Navy Captain, and expert on Leadership and Innovation, watch this video: https://youtu.be/psAXMqxwol8 The Un-Machine Yourself is a podcast by Hatch. Producer: Gabriëlla van der Linden

Thanks for listening to what isn't even the very first podcast episode of Un-Machine Yourself. We are currently recording interviews with some of the worlds most inspirational leaders and successful CEOs. People whom we've selected, because we believe that they possess some of the most important capacities that we've learned we all need, in the nearby future. Un-Machine Yourself is created and produced by Hatch - a platform that helps individuals and companies become future-proof. Behind Hatch are Roanne and Martijn. Martijn is an entrepreneur with great experience in the corporate world; someone who set up several companies in a successful way, managed big teams of people, created startups and sold them again, right in time. He's also someone who foresaw that times are changing, and who warned that the old ways to become successful, no longer work. That's where Roanne and Martijn connected. Roanne is a social scientist, an anthropologist of the future to be more precise. She is also a board member of the Dutch Future Society, lectures at universities and nowadays, took up the role of chief science advisor at Hatch. So far, you've all heard the stories and heard the news about the disadvantages of unsustainable growth. You probably know how many burnouts and bore-outs there are on the workfloor. You have had the experience to sit in a room with people, all of them watching at their phones, not each other. You may know how it is to work in an environment that doesn't feel inclusive, or just; where growth is prioritized over people. And you may wonder: is it true that soon, robots will take over my job? Or, by then, will I have become a sort of robot, in order to keep up? No - we say at Hatch, to the latter. While it IS true that almost all jobs will change in the coming years, and while it is also true that AI, Artificial intelligence, automation, robotics, hyper connectedness and the increase of risk for global pandemics will make this shift as significant as the transitions that prior generations have experienced in agriculture and manufacturing. BY THE WAY; if you find this interesting, check out our website www.iamhatch.com - we wrote several background articles on this topic. We also believe that leaders and employees with future-proof human capabilities, will be able to keep their jobs and more: thrive in them. In this podcast, we tell you which capacities you need, but more than that: together with you, we want to allow ourselves to learn from the best. We interview the worlds' most inspirational leaders; people who seem to possess exactly those capacities that we all need. People to whom everyone is pointing: they are different, they seem to rock it. For some reason, they just keep up and reinvent and do it in such a way, that it works, no matter how turbulent the world is. Yup, those are the people we talk to, here. Sure, we'll talk about the future and robots; but mainly, we share real stories, about humane capacities, with concrete examples. We talk vulnerability, courage, resilience - daring to say to your boss or boardmembers that things are NOT ok. Daring to be innovative, to start a project that no-oone believes in, because you know the world needs it. We talk empathy, complex conversations, being truely transparant - and then win over the world. If you click to follow this podcast, you'll be the first to hear more. If you want to get to know more about us; find us at www.iamhatch.com. Talk soon!