Art of Money Podcast

Dear Money Adventurer, Every single day of our lives, whether we realize it or not, each one of us is writing our own unique Money Story. Yet, no matter how different our journeys may be, there are certain themes and questions that we all struggle with at some point or another. And when we realize that we aren't the only ones facing these challenges, the burden is a little easier to carry. As your guide on this journey, here are the 10 Things Your Financial Therapist (me!) wants you to know right now.

In a world where so often our self-worth gets tied to the work we do or the money we make, we unconsciously invest our personal value in metrics, paychecks, and bottom lines. And we undermine our ability to truly honor and share our gifts, to show up as our most authentic selves, and to thrive in our work and lives. So, how can we transform the attachment between self-worth and money that is so prevalent in life and business? This question came up during my recent Office Hours call with the Art of Money participants, and the answer is a profoundly personal journey of self-discovery, tuning in to our inner knowing, and reclaiming our deepest values. Find out more here: https://baritessler.com/podcast

I recently had the opportunity to interview Iris for The Art of Money podcast, and I am so excited to share her insightful wisdom with you today. Her former roles include Social Justice Strategist at investment management firm Robasciotti & Philipson and National Organizer at Resource Generation, where she helped move over 10 million dollars to social justice organizations. In this profoundly moving conversation, Iris shares her own story of navigating unexpected wealth and loss and how we can deconstruct the ideals of capitalism to stand in the integrity of our own personal values to create a more equitable world. Find out more here: https://baritessler.com/podcast

The work you do, the paycheck you earn, your bank account balance - none of these has anything to do with your intricate worth. You are priceless beyond measure. Yet, we live in a world where most of us need to work to earn money to support ourselves, our families, and, as small business owners, our team as well. We don't like to talk about making money, though, it feels uncomfortable, shallow, and vulnerable. Even more so when we're in a position where we want or need to be making more money. But these silent taboos don't serve us. Frankly, they never have. So it's time to bring some loving honesty to break them down. I recently had the opportunity to interview a dear friend and colleague of mine, Money Coach and author of “Why Women Earn Less: How to Make What You're Really Worth,” Mikelann Valterra. Find out more on the podcast: https://baritessler.com/podcast

I am SO excited to introduce you to my latest guest on the Art of Money podcast, Jayson Gaddis. Founder of The Relationship School, leading relationship expert, and sought-after coach, Jayson helps folks learn to repair everyday conflict with respect, compassion, and understanding for each other - and ourselves. The wisdom, insight, and accessible practices that Jayson shares in this interview will empower you “to love bigger and work out your differences.” Click here to learn more: https://baritessler.com/podcast

Recently, I had the privilege of interviewing one of my favorite people and dearest friends, Danielle Cohen, who joined me on the Art of Money podcast to share her own story of integrating life, money, and business as a woman, a mother, and a creative entrepreneur who has been forging her own path for over 20 years. Danielle is a visibility coach, professional photographer, business mentor, and educator with a unique talent for helping others step into and offer their greatest work by becoming more visible, owning their story and their magic, and sharing it with the world. This conversation is a deep soul dive into the stuff of life - we cover themes of motherhood, family, and relationships, creating new beginnings, pivoting a business during the pandemic, and everything that comes along with it.

Earlier this summer, I had the joy and privilege of interviewing Annie Schuessler, a fellow therapist, Art of Money alum, and host of the phenomenal podcast, “Rebel Therapist.” When Annie first started her private therapy practice, she struggled with her mindset around money, with not knowing how to build her business, and how to balance her desire to help folks heal while also supporting her family. Twenty years later, Annie has found her spark, mentoring therapists to build ethical, sustainable businesses that honor their passions, the way they want to show up, and the work they want to do in the world. Listen in as we challenge the status quo and explore: - How Annie confronted scarcity and the limiting beliefs around money that were undermining her professional and financial success - How “rocking the boat” and talking honestly about her struggles and experiences led Annie to create a business that is both fulfilling - AND capable of supporting her family - Honoring queer, feminist values in a capitalist society - How Annie helps therapists who feel stuck in their practice cultivate new outlets of inspiration and create new opportunities for success - What it means to be a “rebel therapist”

Kimberly Johnson is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and Author of The Fourth Trimester and The Call of the Wild: How we heal trauma, awaken our own power and use it for good. For more head to baritessler.com/podcast

Today, I have the pleasure of introducing you to Wendy Allegaert, a Health Insurance Advocate who specializes in Medicare. She loves to study all things insurance, so you can ask her about Obama Care, the positives changes the Biden administration has already put into place or meet with her to brainstorm health insurance strategies. Wendy has also been an Art of Money student since 2015 and has done her own courageously beautiful money work over the years. Our interview will start with her sharing some of her experiences with the Art of Money program and community -- she is currently in two accountability groups -- and what has positively changed in her own money journey over the years. Head to Baritessler.com/podcast for more information.

In today's Art of Money podcast interview, Bari interviews Jacquette Timmons on how to price your services. Jacquette M. Timmons is a financial behaviorist committed to getting you to see that you don't manage money — you manage your choices around money. She's the author of Financial Intimacy: How to Create a Healthy Relationship with Your Money and Your Mate and the creator of The Comfort Circle™ dinner series, where she hosts discussions about money, business, and life over food and wine. When she's not providing behavioral-based financial coaching, she's traveling the country for speaking engagements to talk about the intersection of emotions and money. Her work has been featured on "Good Morning America," Oprah.com, CNN, HLN, FOX, Black Enterprise, NPR, Wall Street Journal and Family Circle.

Here we are, at our last Money Mocha for this year, and this one’s a tender one. It’s about legacies…money legacies. Those we’ve inherited from others and those we’ll leave behind for others to inherit from us. I often tell people that money touches every part of our lives. Every. Part. The way we relate to money even affects other people’s lives long after we’ll leave this Earth for the great journey beyond. Not many people think about what money legacies they’ve picked up from their parents or other relatives that were around when we were growing up. And fewer people think about what money legacies they’ll leave for others to pick up. But today…we’re going to put it on the table. Something deeper and more meaningful than what you’re probably used to thinking about when it comes to personal finance. I’m going to tell you the story about the time my father had a stroke and I went to be with him in the hospital…and all that I learned in my time with him about money legacies. Transcript + More Here: baritessler.com/68

I hope the last mocha brought you in touch with something in your relationship with money that’s a bit deeper than the typical “save 20% of what you earn and build up your 401k” kind of advice that tends to get attention in the personal finance world. It’s not that I disagree with advice like that. Its just…there is SO MUCH more to creating a healthy relationship with money than the “spend less than you make” type of mainstream sound bites. To be honest, while advice like that is helpful for things on the surface level (that tiny tip of the iceberg that sits above the water), the real work that creates lasting, profound transformations happens in the deeper levels of our psyche. Those quiet levels below the surface that are sometimes hard to get down to, and hard to put to words once you get down there. That’s what today’s Money Mocha is about. Are you ready to do a little interior spelunking and see what might actually be going on under the surface of your money life? Transcript + More Here: http://baritessler.com/67

Today’s Money Mocha is a portion of a much longer conversation I had with Amy Bradbury, who is a profitability powerhouse, financial strategist, and QuickBooks guru who helps entrepreneurs with cash flow, systems, and business models. Amy discusses the number one perspective shift she guides entrepreneurs through who are working on trying to figure out how much money their business needs to operate well enough to give them the level of lifestyle they need it to. Her tools line right up with a foundational part of my Art of Money methodology but are applied in the realm of one’s business. More Here: http://baritessler.com/66

Money touches every part of our lives, in one way or another, every single day. And every day we go about our lives making money decisions both large and small, we’re most often running some very old scripts unconsciously in the background, like an app that runs quietly in the background of your laptop. These scripts are powerful, and many of them were created unintentionally far in the blurry, faded past of our childhoods. Comments your mom made at the kitchen while paying bills. Things your dad did when he got an unexpected bonus from work right before Christmas. That trip your family took to DisneyLand where your parents were arguing about money outside of the hotel room where they thought you couldn’t hear. These scripts are part of your money stories, and those stories are so powerful they can cause you to make money decisions to this very day. There’s good news about these stories though: they’re not written in stone. You’re writing your own money stories every day, every week, every month, and every year. And here’s the key: you have the power to start writing new money stories, new scripts, that can then run in the background, guiding you to make better money choices. And those better choices can lead to less stress and grind, and more peace and calm. Transcript + More Here: http://baritessler.com/65

To start out this first Money Mocha, I have a quick question for you: what do you do when life throws a money curveball at you? Not a ball of money (which would be nice), but something super unexpected and not something you would want to happen. Do you have a plan in place? Do you have any tools you can use as the financial stress meter starts to quickly spike into the red zone? If you don’t have a toolbox and you don’t have a plan, don’t worry. Most people don’t. But today? I’m going to give you both a toolbox and a plan for how to use those tools in today’s Money Mocha.

When you infuse money with your deepest values, big change starts to happen. Resistance melts away and you start feeling more coherence and peace around money. The best news? You can start making this shift today with my simple tool: Values-Based Bookkeeping. Pour yourself a cuppa and relax while I tell you the story of Values-Based Bookkeeping: a simple, profound re-naming practice you can start using today.

“When life changes, money changes. And, when money changes, life changes”. Sudden Money Author and money pioneer, Susan Bradley.

The Art Of Money Book Reading - Boulder Bookstore by Bari Tessler

In this Episode, I interview Michael Bovee, the Founder of the Consumer Recovery Network. He’s a family man and debt geek. Super geek, actually, but he promises to use his superpower for good because most people need help when it comes to debt and credit.

I’m excited to share with you an interview I did this week with Student Loan expert, Travis Hornsby. His company helps people figure out when someone should pay off their student loans or seek forgiveness programs and the best path forward.

Monique Malcolm: I know many of you are grappling with the key themes Monique and I discussed. We talk about different ways to break through money ceilings as an entrepreneur (hint: I love hard work…but it doesn't always have to BE hard work!). Then we delve into how Monique found herself in $35k worth of debt + how she halved debt that in just 6 months!! We talk about the EXACT moment she knew something had to change, the tools she used to organize her money, and the mindset shifts that had to happen. Valuable for everyone — whether you deal with debt or not.

In this open-hearted interview, we delve into how Randi transitioned from soul-sucking jobs into running a business she adores; older motherhood; how to enforce elegant boundaries when it feels difficult; what caused her to dig a consumer credit-shaped hole for herself in her 20’s, and the lifelines that helped her begin to climb out of it. The 3 key things that helped Randi get out of debt will be helpful for so many — as will her sage teachings on self-kindness.

Cait Howerton is a Millennial Financial Planner who is savvy, smart, real, and relatable. Hear how she supports the LGBTQ+ community around money, how her parents’ financial struggles impacted her view of money in relationships (hint: she’s uber-careful!), the immense challenge of coming out as queer in a small town, the ways she and her honey navigate difficult conversations and manage their money… plus how she finds a balance between frugality and fun. I loved this mature and thoughtful conversation.

Christina Rasmussen: Christina’s a well-known author and group educator on grief, and in this no-holds-barred, incredibly intimate conversation, she gets SO real about growing up poor in Greece: including the huge challenges and gifts of a history she has never before shared publicly. She talks about the money and mindset shifts she’s made as she nears 50; and how her relationship to money has shifted and evolved as she journeyed through soul-shaking loss, left the security of the corporate world, and grown her acclaimed counseling practice.

Manisha is a financial powerhouse, with many a TV appearance to her name, who is on the cusp of turning 50 — with so much wisdom to share in her bright, brilliant and thoughtful way. We talk divorce, financial literacy for women, and how visiting family in India + growing up in a money-savvy, feminist family shaped the way Manisha stewards money. Plus, we delve into too-often taboo topics like the impact of mental health on money (including her recent diagnosis), and the similarity between dieting and budgeting.

It was a delight to interview the tenacious Toi Smith, a Business Strategist and Creator of the Game Changer Fund for visionary black women. I have long admired her online. She opens up about what it’s really like supporting four boys as a solopreneur and single Mom, all the ways gender roles in her family were untraditional throughout her childhood, and how she figured out (and raised) her rates! Toi has done a lot of therapy-fuelled money work as a single parent and black woman raising her family without child support, and it shows.

Here’s a glimpse at how my business model has shifted over the past 20 years (and the phase I’m growing into next!).

People say money is the biggest reason couples get divorced. But I disagree. Whether you’re just beginning your life together or just celebrated your golden anniversary, these tools and practices have been tested and loved by many couples before you, who have stepped into more intimate, empowered, and peaceful money relationships together. Here are my top tips for talking money with your honey.

Here are 27 ideas to make a Money Date your own. You’ll learn … - Ultra-quick ideas to shift your mood and make your Money Date feel more meaningful. - Ideas to up-level on the emotional, spiritual, and practical layers. - The “chocolate cake” metaphor for your money relationship. Permission to ditch that old spreadsheet. (Just in case you needed a nudge.)

How this one simple tool saved my butt on stage, and how it can change your money life for good. by Bari Tessler

My jaw dropped when I heard this term: Social justice investing. I was already intimately familiar with SRI - socially responsible investing. But social justice investing?! This is a whole new level of leveraging money for social change. I knew I had to talk to the woman who coined the phrase: Rachel Robasciotti. Rachel is a pioneer in the money field in many different ways. She’s a young, queer woman of color in a field that’s 68% male and 77% white. She became a financial planner at a very young age — so she’s simultaneously young and got 20+ years’ experience. Perhaps most importantly, Rachel’s woman-owned, independent investment firm, Robasciotti & Philipson, is doing things SO differently: lower minimums to invest; integrating emotional intelligence into financial decision making; strategic investing to make major social impact. I am incredibly inspired! Plus, their clients are 80% women, 70% LGBTQ, and 100% progressive.

Racheal Cook is an award-winning business strategist who believes entrepreneurship doesn’t have to be so complicated. Through her signature online mastermind Sweet Spot Strategy, she helps women entrepreneurs to simplify business and amplify results by designing a business around what works best, for you. In this interview, we discuss bootstrapping your business, how to design your income streams and business models, how to come to profitability and sustainability as well as the 3 phases of a business.

Today I have the honor of introducing you to one of the pioneers in this conscious money field: Saundra Davis. We discuss: - How she found herself in a brand-new profession (Financial Planning) at 44. - Why she decided personal finance was THE way she could make real change, particularly in the black community. - How she brings the intuitive, spiritual side of her life into money coaching. - Intersectionality, the income and wealth gaps, how the women’s movement has been different for black women, and the problem with summits. - What everyone can do to support diversity. - Why money is so much more complicated than “if you know better, you do better” and how that impacts the coaches she trains.

Today, I’d like to tell you the real, from-the-trenches story of a big financial trauma I faced — and exactly how I worked through it, in the middle of the afternoon … in my bathtub.

The True Story of How I Hired + Fired a CFO in 3 Weeks Flat by Bari Tessler

Growing up in a wealthy family has its own set of challenges and pain points, and Rebecca articulates these so beautifully and openly. Plus, hear the stages of her money journey and how she relates to her “inner teenager,” especially when she shows up at the Apple Store (so helpful!).

Kate’s a well-known, successful coach and entrepreneur, and in this no-holds-barred, incredibly intimate conversation, she gets SO real about growing up poor: the challenges and incredible gifts. She talks about her fire to fight, the personal Money Healing Ritual she concocted, and how her money work has shifted and evolved as she’s grown her business.

Listen to Patricia’s Money Memoir and find out how a decade of deep money work has impacted her life. In this deep yet playful conversation, Patricia shares openly and vividly about: - What inspired her to begin this work 10 years ago. - How money work has helped her forgive her challenging father. - Why she kept coming back to this work, even when it was tough (I love her metaphor of “little sips”). - How she’s claimed her value, let go of shame, and deepened her self-compassion. - How learning to get into her body has transformed her money, relationships, and career.

Cozy up with a cuppa and listen to Alethea’s Money Memoir about motherhood, meaning, multiple incomes, and more. She shares personal stories and insights about: What it was like to leave her high-paying architecture career to pursue more meaningful work when her kids were little. How motherhood helped her claim her own value — regardless of the paycheck. How the money dynamics in her marriage changed when she stayed home with the kids — and how they worked through this. The gifts and challenges of her lineage as a Chinese-UK-born immigrant and how they’ve impacted her money relationship. The 3 “money mantras” she’s put on mental repeat — LOVE. THESE!

Hear what an award-winning biz strategist wishes more people knew about money (and much more) in this Money Memoir. In her uplifting and clear way, Racheal shares: - The unusual money gifts and challenges her entrepreneurial lineage endowed her with - The money blindspots she sees over and over with entrepreneurs - How she does bookkeeping as a person how hates the “hard slog” of details - The surprising upsides of actually looking at her numbers How she and her husband do money together — roles, Money Dates, and scary leaps.

Hear Keisha’s fabulous Money Memoir about standing in her truth and redefining money legacy. Keisha has done her money work, and it shows! She shares: - The REAL money issues facing her high-earning luxury branding clients - Why she got brave and shared a truth she’d kept hidden -- and how it impacted her income - The money messages she learned as a black woman in the Deep South - How she “chutzpah’ed” her way into earning $90K at 19 - What it’s taken for her to let go of the “good girl” money mindset and stop overgiving - How she’s redefined legacy (THIS is what made her stand out in a crowd of 100 women!)

Hear my talk with the one ’n only Vicki Robin: matriarch of minimalism and conscious money work. Vicki is a master of both the micro and macro sides of money. You’ll hear: How she lived on $5K per YEAR in the 80’s (and more importantly, WHY) The practices I still vividly remember from her book - a wakeup call in a flash Her “10 mile diet” experiment and why she treats sustainability as an “extreme sport” Why she was (unknowingly!) named the “Eve” of the “FIRE” movement (Financial Independence and Retire Early) The “macro” reasons why she’s had to update her money teachings for Millennials and the new economic realities (so important!)

In the following audio of my keynote speech, you’ll hear me share: - 4 “money koans” from my own life and what they taught me - The 3 elegant steps I recommend for solving your own Big Money Riddles - The exact set of questions I used when my child was born (big money koan!!) and how it revolutionized my business model - How I bring my body into my money koans.

In this episode, 3 amazing Art of Money guest teachers share: - The top subconscious fears that sabotage people’s earning - Why wanting to “earn more” isn’t enough — and what to do instead - One simple practice to uncover the roots of your under-earning (and see what’s really been holding you back) - The “click” high earners all share — and how to get there - The un-blueprint method for building a thriving business that includes your “crazy bits” And more!

You can be savvy about money AND make it come alive with your deepest values, creativity, and playfulness. When you infuse money with your deepest values, big change starts to happen. Resistance melts away and you start feeling more coherence and peace around money. The best news? You can start making this shift today with my simple tool: Values-Based Bookkeeping. Pour yourself a cuppa and relax while I tell you the story of Values-Based Bookkeeping: a simple, profound practice you can start using today.

Listen to this brand-new teaching about emotions + money and learn: - How to decode your fight-flight-freeze fear responses around money - 7 things deep money work actually can help you do, with your emotions (yes, there’s hope!) - The vulnerability my husband had about his own money emotions (so good) - My favorite, trusty tool to help you respond to money emotions when they inevitably arise.

In this Money Mocha, you'll hear an overview of my 3 phase methodology and how it solves the problem of fractured money approaches, why the "just do it!" approach to money never sticks for long (it's not a lack of willpower), and more!

In this brand-new keynote speech, I share 4 of my personal “money koans” and the steps I’ve used to solve them.

When financial “tough love” didn’t work for her, here’s what did. by Bari Tessler

In this high-octane interview, Jayson and I discuss: -How becoming a parent made him realize he needed to make money on his own terms. -The challenges he faced, growing up in a wealthy family. -How he’s dealt with anger and rebellion in his money relationship (so glad he spoke to this!) -The big “oh shit” moment in his business and how he pivoted. -The many months of private training he needed to learn QuickBooks (I did as well!) -The crucial mistake people make when trying to enroll their sweetie in change. -How he works through the emotions on money dates with his wife. (So inspiring!)

You’ll just have to listen to this Money Memoir to fully grok its power, but here’s some of what Danielle shares: - How fear keeps us from asking for what we need (and deserve) - The “magical money thinking” she grew up with and how she’s facing it anew now - How complex PTSD and anxiety impact her money world - How she “did” money as a single Mom of 3 boys - The HUGE money “dragon” she just slayed — and the lessons she learned from it. (So powerful.)