Podcasts about somatic experiencing practitioner

This is the audio of the session "Soma Therapy Nervous System Nourishment Workshop" led by Sarah K. from Day 1 of Virtual ICSAA 2025. Recordings from the conference are being edited for public sharing and are being uploaded as they are made ready. Follow/subscribe to us on buzzsprout to be alerted as your favorite episodes are available. For information on ICSAA 2026 in-person in Phoenix next year, check out https://www.aasecular.org/icsaa-2026 and register now!Session Description: Join Sarah, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, in this workshop to explore how your nervous system might impact the patterns and cycles you experience in life. You'll learn some introductory concepts around supporting your nervous system, tools to help understand what patterns your nervous system defaults to, and go through some live practices so your nervous system can receive nourishment in real-time.For more info on secular AA including Zoom meetings, in-person meetings, and virtual gatherings, check out:- https://aasecular.org- secularAA@gmail.comSecular AA is AA sobriety that is neither religious nor irreligious, focusing on the practical, humanist tools of Alcoholics Anonymous and borrowed from the wider recovery community. Secular AA is a growing subculture within AA, offering 100 agnostic/atheist/freethinkers AA meetings every day + regional events and the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA). More @ https://aasecular.org

Today, we're exploring the science behind why we haven't been able to think our way out of perfectionist and people pleasing tendencies. To help us with this, our guest is Beatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina,  a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach. She is the author of  "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits", which you can pick up now: https://beatrizalbina.com/book/Beatriz is passionate about helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy.You're going to walk away with some great information on how to reconnect with your body and regulate your nervous system, something we all can benefit from right now.Links mentioned:Whitexicans restaurant: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougmelville/2025/10/21/as-whitexicans-restaurant-opens-locals-protest-the-name-is-it-racist-or-satire/James by Percival Everett:https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/percival-everett/james/9781035031269Tamarindo is a lighthearted show hosted by Brenda Gonzalez and Delsy Sandoval talking about politics, culture, and self-development. We're here to uplift our community through powerful conversations with changemakers, creatives, and healers. Join us as we delve into discussions on race, gender, representation, and life! You can get in touch with us at www.tamarindopodcast.comBrenda Gonzalez and Delsy Sandoval are executive producers of Tamarindo podcast with production support by Karina Riveroll of Sonoro Media. Jeff Ricards produced our theme song. If you want to support our work, please rate and review our show here.SUPPORT OUR SHOWContribute to the show: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/tamarindopodcast1Follow Tamarindo on instagram @tamarindopodcast and on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TamarindoPodcast-143 Tamarindo's mission is to use laughter and conversation to inform, inspire and positively impact our community. Learn more at tamarindopodcast.com

"I reclaimed my Power to create. ... There's no amount of suffering that is beyond what can't be healed." Dr. Angela Le Dr. Angela Le specializes in women's reproductive and hormonal health through acupuncture, Chinese Medicine, and Somatic Experiencing. In 2014, Angela was going through a Dark Night of the Soul. She was desperate. She then remembered hearing about the Hoffman Process twenty years earlier. Feeling great relief to finally ask for help, she registered and then arrived for her Process three weeks later. In hindsight, Angela shares she "would have had a miserable life" if she hadn't done the Process. But she wanted something more. Angela as a baby “There was just this fortitude in me that wanted more and actually knew I could have more, but I was just in this cycle and this pattern that needed major disruption, and that's really what Hoffman was, for me. It just disrupted patterns in a way that allowed for tremendous change and transformation." On the other side of the Process, Angela found that one of the gifts of doing the Process was that it “opened up the permission field to have a different experience." She learned that she had the power within her to change her own experience. These many years later, Angela has come to embrace the mystery of life. Letting go of the need to control, to be good, to be "all the things," has ushered in a new way to live. The change she found through the Process brought a reclamation of her power to create. At its root, the work Angela does supports and heals the deepest of creativity - that of women's reproduction. Angela, a healer, experienced healing through her Process, and she, in turn, deepened her ability to heal others through her love's everyday radius. More about Dr. Angela Le: Dr. Angela Le is a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, biohacking and longevity coach, specializing in women's reproductive and hormonal health. With over two decades of clinical experience, she has supported thousands of women through fertility, pregnancy, postpartum, and perimenopause. She trained in Chinese medicine and Taoist philosophy under Master Ni and his sons, esteemed healers with a lineage dating back to the Han Dynasty. This foundation in ancient wisdom shapes her approach to medicine, human potential, and consciousness. Dr. Le has long been drawn to spiritual exploration and self-inquiry, an interest that began in her childhood. A committed meditation practitioner for decades, she has studied across Eastern, indigenous, and contemplative traditions. In 2014, she completed the Hoffman Process, which she describes as a profound milestone in her lifelong journey of healing and self-discovery. Based in New York City, learn more about Angela at www.fafwellness.com. Follow Angela on Instagram. Listen on Apple Podcasts As mentioned in this episode: Hoffman Graduate Groups •   New York Hoffman Grad Group Dark Night of the Soul Vipassana Meditation Parentification or Parentified Child Hero/Victim Dynamic - The Karpman drama triangle Spiritual Bypass Liza Ingrasci, Hoffman Institute Foundation CEO and President The Shadow Share the Process with someone What is fertility? Perimenopause Mystic Crone Years: •   " The Crone represents the ability to see, more than just with one's eyes alone, but to see with the heart's eyes, with the soul's eyes, through the eyes of the creative force and the animating force of the psyche." Clarissa Pinkola Estés •   Crone years are typically from 50 on.

Episode Highlights With BrittanyWhat polyvagal theory is and the updated science of the nervous system Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and what this meansThree principles of polyvagal theory: hierarchy of responses, coregulation, neuroception Humans have a bioligcal imperative to be in connection with othersWhat glimmers or safety cues are and how to understand these Misconceptions and misinformed ideas related to nervous system regulationRegulation does not mean being calm, cool, and collected all the timeWhat somatic experiencing is and how it can be helpful in processing emotions and physical symptomsSteps you can take and try now to support your body, emotions, and nervous systemTrauma doesn't always come back as a memory but can come back as patterns and reactionsHow to know if exhaustion is going into shut down or just the body finally being able to restWhy we actually have to go through fight or flight to climb the nervous system ladder When things can feel worse before they feel betterWhy the nervous system prefers predictable over safe at times and why slower is faster when it comes to the nervous systemWe will never be fully healed and releasing that expectationResources MentionedBody-First Healing: Get Unstuck and Recover from Trauma with Somatic Healing by Brittany PiperBody First Healing ProgramBody First Healing on InstagramThe Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

Episode Summary:In this powerful conversation, Anna sits down with internationally renowned speaker, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and author Brittany Piper to explore how we begin to rebuild self-trust after trauma—not just cognitively, but somatically. Brittany shares insights from her own healing journey as a rape survivor and from over a decade of work in trauma-informed care, including her transformative Body-First Healing framework.They talk about the science and soul of nervous system recovery, the fear of being seen, and the courage it takes to step into your voice and visibility after trauma. Brittany also offers a behind-the-scenes look at her new book, Body-First Healing: A Revolutionary Guide to Nervous System Recovery—a practical and compassionate guide to reclaiming safety, regulation, and vitality in your body and life.Whether you're in the early stages of your healing or years into the process, this episode offers deeply validating, body-centered wisdom to support you on the path of self-trust and recovery.In this episode, Brittany and Anna discuss:The origin of Body-First Healing and how it revolutionizes trauma recoveryHow Brittany rebuilt self-trust in her work, motherhood, and healingThe tools that helped her regulate her nervous system and reconnect to her voiceMoving through fear of visibility in writing, publishing, and public speakingHow to write and share your story from a trauma-informed lensWords of encouragement for those beginning the journey of healing and self-trustConnect with Brittany Piper:

A literal masterclass on all things somatic healing with such an incredible guest, Britt Piper. She is a trauma survivor turned Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, speaker, creator of the Body-First Healing Program and author of Body-First Healing.In this episode, we talk about the sacredness, depth, and nuance of somatic healing, and uncover common myths about this work.Work with her and order her book, Body-First Healing here: www.bodyfirsthealing.comHer Podcast: The Body-First Healing PodcastHer Instagram: @healwithbrittWant to become a trauma-informed embodiment practitioner through Healing Embodied? Learn more about our year-long, accredited, international embodiment coaching certification and apply here: www.healingembodied.com/get-certifiedWe are currently enrolling for the February 2026 cohort. Spots are limited to 10 students. Additional Resources for Therapists, Healers, Coaches, and Creative Entrepreneurs:Free Resource Library for Therapists, Healers, and Creatives: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/library-signupGet our free training for therapists, coaches, and practitioners, How to Not Burn out as a Therapist: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/burnoutFree Facebook Community for practitioners who want to lead from embodiment and wholeness: https://www.facebook.com/groups/embodiedpractitionerparadigm/Get our $7 ebook for therapists, coaches, and practitioners on how to create a career that lights you up and serves from overflow rather than burnout and self-sacrifice, From Overgiving to Overflow: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/overgiving-to-overflowLearn more and/or apply for our year-long, internationally accredited somatic certification program: www.healingembodied.com/get-certifiedUnlock the fullest expression of your purpose and get clear on your unique career vision by booking a Career Vision Call: https://healingembodied.hbportal.co/public/careervisionAdditional Resources for those who want to embody more love, trust, and wholeness in their lives and relationships:Want to be a client of Healing Embodied? Book a free 15 minute Clarity Call with a member of our team, and learn how we can support you in creating more trust, love, and joy in your life: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/applyWant to feel safe to let in the fullness of love in your relationship? Check out our new free guide, "The 5 Keys to Feeling Rock Solid in Your Relationship" here: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/the-5-keysOur Relationship Anxiety Resource Shop (mediations, masterclasses, courses): https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/shopGet on our email list for updates, podcast episode announcements, discounts, and more: https://healingembodied.kartra.com/page/sign-upCheck out all the ways we can support you here: www.healingembodied.com/healwithus

Bio: Jenny - Co-Host Podcast (er):I am Jenny! (She/Her) MACP, LMHCI am a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, Certified Yoga Teacher, and an Approved Supervisor in the state of Washington.I have spent over a decade researching the ways in which the body can heal from trauma through movement and connection. I have come to see that our bodies know what they need. By approaching our body with curiosity we can begin to listen to the innate wisdom our body has to teach us. And that is where the magic happens!I was raised within fundamentalist Christianity. I have been, and am still on my own journey of healing from religious trauma and religious sexual shame (as well as consistently engaging my entanglement with white saviorism). I am a white, straight, able-bodied, cis woman. I recognize the power and privilege this affords me socially, and I am committed to understanding my bias' and privilege in the work that I do. I am LGBTQIA+ affirming and actively engage critical race theory and consultation to see a better way forward that honors all bodies of various sizes, races, ability, religion, gender, and sexuality.I am immensely grateful for the teachers, healers, therapists, and friends (and of course my husband and dog!) for the healing I have been offered. I strive to pay it forward with my clients and students. Few things make me happier than seeing people live freely in their bodies from the inside out!Rebecca A. Wheeler Walston, J.D., Master of Arts in CounselingEmail: asolidfoundationcoaching@gmail.comPhone:  +1.5104686137Website: Rebuildingmyfoundation.comI have been doing story work for nearly a decade. I earned a Master of Arts in Counseling from Reformed Theological Seminary and trained in story work at The Allender Center at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. I have served as a story facilitator and trainer at both The Allender Center and the Art of Living Counseling Center. I currently see clients for one-on-one story coaching and work as a speaker and facilitator with Hope & Anchor, an initiative of The Impact Movement, Inc., bringing the power of story work to college students.By all accounts, I should not be the person that I am today. I should not have survived the difficulties and the struggles that I have faced. At best, I should be beaten down by life‘s struggles, perhaps bitter. I should have given in and given up long ago. But I was invited to do the good work of (re)building a solid foundation. More than once in my life, I have witnessed God send someone my way at just the right moment to help me understand my own story, and to find the strength to step away from the seemingly inevitable ending of living life in defeat. More than once I have been invited and challenged to find the resilience that lies within me to overcome the difficult moment. To trust in the goodness and the power of a kind gesture. What follows is a snapshot of a pivotal invitation to trust the kindness of another in my own story. May it invite you to receive to the pivotal invitation of kindness in your own story. Listen with me…     Danielle (00:17):Welcome to the Arise podcast, and as you know, we're continuing on the intersection of where our reality meets and today it's where our reality meets our resilience. And how do we define that? A lovely conversation. It's actually just part one. I'm thinking it's going to be multiple conversations. Jenny McGrath, LMHC, and Rebecca Wheeler, Walston. Join me again, look for their bios in the notes and tag along with us. I thought we could start by talking about what do we see as resilience in this moment and what do we see, maybe like I'm saying a lot now, what do we see as the ideal of that resilience and what is actually accessible to us? Because I think there's these great quotes from philosophers and our ancestors, but we don't know all their day-to-day life. What did it look like day to day? So I'm wondering, just kind of posing that for you all, what do you think about resilience? How does it intersect with this moment and how do we kind of ground ourselves in reality?Rebecca (01:33):Rebecca? Coffee helps. Coffee definitely helps. It does. I have coffee here.(01:42):Me too. I would probably try to start with something of a working definition of the word. One of the things that I think makes this moment difficult in terms of a sense of what's real and what's not is the way that our vocabulary is being co-opted or redefined without our permission. And things are being defined in ways that are not accurate or not grounded in reality. And I think that that's part of what feels disorienting in this moment. So I would love for us to just start with a definition of the word, and I'm guessing the three of us will have different versions of that.(02:25):So if I had to start, I would say that I used to think about resilience as sort of springing back to a starting point. You started in this place and then something knocked you off of where you started. And resilience is about making it back to the place that you were before you got knocked off of your path. And my definition of that word has shifted in recent years to a sense of resilience that is more about having come through some difficulty. I don't actually bounce back to where I started. I actually adopt a new normal new starting place that has integrated the lessons learned or the strengths or the skills developed for having gone through the process of facing something difficult.Jenny, I love that. I feel like it reminds me of a conversation you and I had many moons ago, Rebecca, around what is flourishing and kind of these maybe idealistic ideas around something that isn't actually rooted in reality. And I love that that definition of resistance feels so committed to being in reality. And I am not going to erase everything I went through to try to get back to something, but I'm actually going to, my word is compost or use what I've gone through to bring me to where I am. Now, this will not surprise either of you. I think when I think of resilience, I think somatically and how we talk about a nervous system or a body and what allows resilience. And so one of the ways that that is talked about is through heart rate variability and our ability for our heart to speed up and slow down is one of the defining factors of our body's ability to stay resilient.(04:42):Can I come to a state of rest and I think about how rest is a privilege that not all bodies have. And so when I think about resilience in that way, it makes me think about how do I actually zoom out of resilience being about an individual body and how do we form kind of more of a collective sense of resilience where we are coworking to create a world where all bodies get to return to that level of safety and rest and comfort and aren't having to stay in a mode of vigilance. And so I see resilience almost as one of the directions that I'm wanting to move and not a place that we're at yet collectively. Collectively meaning whoJenny (05:41):I say collectively, I'm hoping for a world that does not exist yet where it gets to be all bodies, human and non-human, and the ways in which we allow ecosystems to rest, we allow a night sky to rest. We allow ourselves to become more in rhythm with the activation and deactivation that I think nature teaches us of more summer and winter and day and night and these rhythms that I think we're meant to flow in. But in a productive capitalistic society where lights are never turned off and energy is only ever thought about and how do we produce more or different energy, I'm like, how do we just stop producing energy and just take a nap? I'm really inspired by the nat ministry of just like rest actually is a really important part of resistance. And so I have these lofty ideals of what collective means while being aware that we are coming to that collective from very different places in our unresolved historical relational field that we're in.I would say there's a lot I'd love about that, all of that. And I, dear use of the word lofty, I feel that word in this moment that causes me to consider the things that feel like they're out of reach. I think the one thing that I would probably add to what you said is I think you used the phrase like returning to a state of rest when you were talking about heart rate and body. And if we're talking about an individual ability to catch my breath and slow it down, I can track with you through the returning to something. But when we go from that individual to this collective space where I live in the hyphenated existence of the African American story, I don't have the sense of returning to something because African hyphen American people were born as a people group out of this horrific traumatic space called the transatlantic slave trade.(08:15):And so I don't know that our bodies have ever known a sense of rest on us soil. And I don't know that I would feel that that sense of rest on the continent either having been there several times, that sense of something happened in the transition from Africa to America, that I lost my africanness in such a way that doesn't feel like a place of rest. And sometimes we talk about it in terms of for certain people groups, land is connected to that sense of rest for Native Americans, for indigenous people, for certain Latin cultures. But for the African American person, there's not a connection to land. There's only maybe a connection to the water of the transatlantic slave trade. And then water is never at rest. It's always moving, right? So I stay with you and then I lose you and then I come back to you.Danielle (09:25):That feels like a normal part of healing. I stay with you, I lose you and then I come back to you. I think resilience for me has meant living in this family with my partner who's a first generation immigrant and then having kids and having to remind myself that my kids were raised by both of us with two wildly different perspectives even though we share culture. And so there's things that are taught, there's things that are learned that are very different lessons that I cannot be surprised about what might be a form of resilience for my child and what might be a struggle where there isn't groundwork there.(10:22):I remember when Luis came to the United States, his parents said to him, we'll see you in a couple weeks. And I used to think my young self, I was like, what does that mean? They don't think we're going to stay married or whatever. But his dad also told him, be careful up there, be careful. And if Luis were here to tell this story, he said it many times. He's like, I didn't come to the United States because I thought it was the best thing that could happen to me. I came to marry you, I came to be with you, but I didn't come here because it was the best thing to happen to me. When his family came up for the wedding, they were very explicit. We didn't come here, we're not in awe. They wanted to make sure people knew we're okay. And I know there's wildly different experiences on the spectrum of this, but I think about that a lot. And so resilience has looked really different for us.(11:23):I think it is forming that bond with people that came here because they needed work or a different kind of setting or change to people that are already here. And I think as you witness our culture now, handle what's happening with kidnappings, what's happening with moms, what's happening with people on the street, snatching people off the street. You see that in the last election there was a wide range of voters on our side on the Latinx Latina side, and there was a spectrum of thoughts on what would actually help our community. But now you're seeing that quickly contract and basically like, oh shit, that wasn't helpful. So I think my challenge to myself has been how do I stay? Part of resilience for me is how do I stay in contact with people that I love that don't share in the same view as humanity as me? And I think that's an exercise that our people have done for a long time.Rebecca (12:38):Say that last sentence one more time, Danielle.Danielle (12:42):Just like, how do I stay in contact with people that I love that don't share my view of humanity, that don't share the valuation of humanity? How do I stay in contact with them because I actually see them as human too. And I think that's been a part of our resiliency over many years in Latin America just due to constant interference from European governmental powers.Rebecca (13:16):That partly why I think I asked you to repeat that last sentence is because I think I disconnected for a minute and I want to be mindful of disconnecting over a sentence that is about staying connected to people who don't value the same things that I value or don't value or see humanity in the way that I see in humanity. And I'm super aware, part of the conversation that's happening in the black community in this moment, particularly with black women, is the idea that we're not going to step to the forefront in this one. We are culturally, collectively, consciously making a decision to check out. And so if you see any of this on social media, there's a sense of like we're standing around learning line dances from Beyonce about boots on the ground instead of actively engaging in this moment. And so I have some ambivalence about whether or not does that count as resilience, right?(14:28):And is it resilient in a way that's actually kind to us as a people? And I'm not sure if I have an answer to that yet. In my mind the jury is still out, right? There are things about black women stepping to the side that make me really nervous because that's not who we are. It's not historically who we have been. And I am concerned that what we're doing is cutting off parts of ourself. And at the same time, I can tell you that I have not watched a news program. I have not watched a single news recording of anything since November 2nd, 2024.Danielle (15:13):I can just feel the tension of all of our different viewpoints, not that we're in conflict with one another, but we're not exactly on the same page either. And not that we're not on the same team, but I can feel that pull. Anybody else feel that?Rebecca (15:35):Does it feel like, I would agree we're not on the same page and in some ways I don't expect that we would be because we're so different. But does that pull feel like an invitation to clash or does it feel like it is actually okay to not necessarily be on the same page?Danielle (16:06):Well, I think it feels both things. I think I feel okay with it because I know you all and I'm trying to practice that. And I also think I feel annoyed that we can't all be on the same page some sense of annoyance. But I don't know if that annoyance is from you all. I feel the annoyance. It feels like noise from the outside to me a bit. It is not you or Jenny, it's just a general annoyance with how hard this shit is.Rebecca (16:45):And I definitely feel like one of the things I think that happens around supremacy and whiteness on us soil is the larger narrative that we have to be at odds with one another that there isn't a capacity or a way that would allow us to differentiate and not villainize or demonize the person that you are or the community that you are differentiated from. And I think we haven't always had the space collectively to think about what does it mean to walk alongside, what does it mean to lock arms? What does it mean to pull resources even with someone that we're on the same team, but maybe not at the same vantage point.Jenny (17:47):I have two thoughts. Three, I guess I'm aware even my continual work around internalized white saviorism, that part of my ambivalence is like where do you each need me? Are we aligning with people or are we saying f you to people? And I can feel that within me and it takes so much work to come back to, I might actually have a third way that's different than both of you, and that gets to be okay too. But I'm aware that there is that tendency to step into over alignment out of this savior movement and mentality. So just wanted to name that that is there.(18:41):And as you were sharing Rebecca, the word that came to mind for me was orthodoxy. And I don't often think of white supremacy without thinking of Christian supremacy because they've been so interlocked for so long. And the idea that there are many faith traditions including the Jewish tradition that has a mid rash. And it's like we actually come to scripture and we argue about it because we have different viewpoints and that's beautiful and lovely because the word of God is living in all of us. And when orthodoxy came around, it's like, no, we have to be in 100% agreement of these theologies or these doctrines and that's what it means to be Christian. And then eventually I think that's what it means to be a white Christian. So yeah, I think for folks like myself who were immersed in that world growing up, it feels existentially terrifying because it's like if I don't align with the orthodoxy of whiteness or Christianity or capitalism, it viscerally feels like I am risking eternity in hell. And so I better just play it safe and agree with whatever my pastor tells me or whatever the next white Republican male tells me. And so I feel that the weight of what this mindset of orthodoxy has done,Rebecca (20:21):I'm like, I got to take a breath on that one because I got a lot of stuff going on internally. And I think, so my faith tradition has these sort of two parallels. There's this space that I grew up in was rooted in the black church experience and then also in college that introduction into that white evangelical parachurch space where all of that orthodoxy was very, very loud and a version of Christianity that was there is but one way to do all of these things and that one way looks like this. And if you're doing anything other than that, there's something wrong with what you're doing. And so for me, there are parts of me that can walk with you right through that orthodoxy door. And there's also this part of me where the black church experience was actually birthed in opposition to that orthodoxy, that same orthodoxy that said I was three fifths of a person, that same orthodoxy that said that my conversion to Christianity on earth did not change my status as an enslaved person.(21:39):And so I have this other faith tradition that is built around the notion that that orthodoxy is actually a perversion of authentic Christian expression. And so I have both of those things in my body right now going, and so that's just my reaction I think to what you said. I feel both of those things and there are times when I will say to my husband, Ooh, my evangelical illness is showing because I can feel it, like want to push back on this flexibility and this oxygen that is in the room through the black church experience that says I get to come as I am with no apology and no explanation, and Jesus will meet me wherever that is end of conversation, end debate.Danielle (22:46):I don't know. I had a lot of thoughts. They're all kind of mumbled together. I think we have a lot of privilege to have a conversation like this because when you leave a space like this that's curated with people, you've had relationships over a long time maybe had disagreements with or rubbed scratchy edges with. When you get out into the world, you encounter a lot of big feelings that are unprocessed and they don't have words and they have a lot of room for interpretation. So you're just getting hit, hit, hit, hit and the choices to engage, how do you honor that person and engage? You don't want to name their feelings, you don't want to take over interpreting them, but it feels in this moment that we're being invited to interpret one another's feelings a lot. But here we're putting language to that. I mean Jenny and I talked about it recently, but it turns into a lot of relational cutoffs.(23:55):I can't talk to you because X, I can't talk to you because X, I don't want to read your news article. And a lot of times they're like, Danielle, why did you read Charlie Kirk? And I was like, because I have family that was interested in it. I've been watching his videos for years because I wanted to understand what are they hearing, what's going on. Yeah, did it make me mad sometimes? Absolutely. Did I turn it off? Yeah, I still engage and then I swing and listen to the Midas touch or whatever just like these opposite ends and it gives me great joy to listen to something like that. But when we're out and about, if we're saying resiliency comes through connection to our culture and to one another, but then with all the big feelings you can feel just the formidable splits anywhere you go, the danger of speaking of what's unspeakable and you get in a room with people you agree with and then suddenly you can talk. And I don't know how many of us are in rooms where resilience is actually even required in a conversation.Rebecca (25:15):It makes me think about the idea that we don't have good sort of rules of engagement around how to engage someone that thinks differently than we do and we have to kind of create them on the fly. When you were talking Danielle about the things you choosing to read Charlie Kirk, or not choosing to listen to something that reflects your values or not, and the invitation in this moment or the demand that if someone thinks differently than me, it is just a straight cutoff. I'm not even willing to consider that there's any kind of veracity in your viewpoint whatsoever. And I think we don't have good theology, we don't have good vocabulary, we don't have good rules of engagement about when is it okay to say, actually, I'm going to choose not to engage you. And what are the reasons why we would do that that are good reasons, that are wise reasons that are kind reasons? And I think the country is in a debate about that and we don't always get the answer to those questions and because we don't get it right then there's just relational debris all over the floor.Jenny (26:47):I'm just thinking about, I am far from skilled or perfect at this by any means, but I feel like these last couple years I live in a van and one of the reasons that we decided to do that was that we would say, I think I know two things about every state, and they're probably both wrong. And I think for our own reasons, my husband and I don't like other people telling us what is true. We like to learn and discover and feel it in our own bodies. And so it's been really important for us to literally physically go to places and talk to people. And I think it has been a giant lesson for me on nuance and that nobody is all one thing. And often there's people that are on the completely opposite side of the aisle, but we actually look at the same issues and we have a problem with the issues. We just have heard very, very different ways of fixing or tending to those issues. And so I think often if we can come down to what are we fearing, what is happening, what is going on, we can kind of wrestle there a little bit more than jumping to, so what's the solution? And staying more in that dirt level.(28:22):And not always perfectly of course, but I think that's been one of the things in an age of the algorithm and social media, it is easy for me to have very broad views of what certain states or certain people groups or certain voting demographics are like. And then when you are face to face, you have to wrestle. And I love that when you said, Daniel, I see them as human. And it's like, oh yeah, it's so much easier to see someone as not human when I'm learning about them from a TikTok reel or from a news segment than when I'm sharing a meal with them and hearing about their story and how they've come to believe the things they've believed or wrestle with the things they're wrestling with.Rebecca (29:14):Two things. One, I think what you're talking about Jenny, is the value of proximity. The idea that I've stepped close to someone into their space, into their world with a posture of I'm going to just listen. I'm going to learn, I'm going to be curious. And in that curiosity, open handed and open-minded about all kinds of assumptions and presuppositions. And you're right, we don't do that a lot. The second thing that I was thinking when you mentioned getting into the dirt, I think you used the phrase like staying in the darker sort of edges of some of those hard conversations. That feels like a choice towards resiliency. To me, the idea that I will choose of my will to stay in the room, in the relationship, in the conversation long enough to wrestle long enough to learn something long enough to have my perspective challenged in a real way that makes me rethink the way I see something or the lens that I have on that particular subject.(30:33):And I don't think we could use more of that in this moment. I think probably our friendship, what started as a professional connection that has over the years developed into this friendship is about the choice to stay connected and the choice to stay in the conversation. I know when I first met you, we were going to do a seminar together and someone said, oh yeah, Jenny's getting ready to talk on something about white people. And I had 8,000 assumptions about what you were going to say and all kinds of opinions about my assumptions about what you're going to say. And I was like, well, I want to talk to her. I want to know what is she going to say? And really it was because if she says anything crazy, we right, we all have problems, me and you, right? And the graciousness with which you actually entered that conversation to go like, okay, I'm listening. What is it that you want to ask me? I think as part of why we're still friends, why we're still colleagues, why we still work together, is that invitation from you, that acceptance of that invitation from me. Can we wrestle? Can we box over this and come out the other side having learned something about ourselves and each other?Jenny (32:10):And I think part of that for me, what I have to do is reach for my lineage pre whiteness. And I have this podcast series that I love called Search for the Slavic Soul that has made me make more sense to myself. And there's this entire episode on why do Slavic people love to argue? And I'm like, oh, yes. And I think part of that has been me working out that place of white woman fragility that says, if someone questions my ideas or my values or my views, I need to disintegrate and I need to crumple. And so I'm actually so grateful for that time and for how we've continued to be able to say, I don't agree with that, and we can still be okay and we can still kind of navigate because of course we're probably going to see things differently based on our experiences.Danielle (33:16):That is exactly the problem though is because there's a lot of, not everybody, but there's a lot of folks that don't really have a sense of self or have a sense of their own body. So there's so much enmeshment with whoever they're with. So when then confronted and mesh, I mean merging, we're the same self. It adds protection. Think about it. We all do it. Sometimes I need to be people just like me. It's not bad. But if that sense of merging will cost you the ability to connect to someone different than you or that sees very different than you, and when they confront that, if they're quote alone physically or alone emotionally in that moment, they'll disappear or they'll cut you off or they'll go away or it comes out as violence. I believe it comes out as shootings as we could go on with the list of violent outcomes that kind of cut, that kind of separation happens. So I mean, I'm not like Jenny, that's awesome. And it doesn't feel that typical to me.Rebecca (34:36):What you just described to me, Daniel, I have been going like, isn't that whiteness though, the whole point, and I'm talking about whiteness, not the people who believe themselves to be white, to quote taishi quotes. The whole point of whiteness is this enmeshment of all these individual European countries and cultures and people into this one big blob that has no real face on it. And maybe that's where the fragility comes from. So I love when Jenny said, it makes me reach back into my ancestry pre whiteness, and I'm going, that needs to be on a t-shirt. Please put it on a t-shirt, a coffee mug, a hat, something. And so that's sort of Taishi Coates concept of the people who believe themselves to be white is a way to put into words this idea that that's not actually your story. It's not actually your ancestry.(35:43):It's not actually your lineage. It's the disruption and the eraser and the stealing of your lineage in exchange for access to power and privilege. And I do think it is this enmeshment, this collective enmeshment of an entire European continent. And perhaps you're right that that's where the fragility comes from. So when you try to extract a person or a people group out of that, I don't know who I am, if absent this label of whiteness, I don't know what that means by who I am now I'm talking like I know what I'm talking about. I'm not white, so let me shut up. Maybe that means Jenny, you could say if I misunderstood you misquoted, you misrepresented allJenny (36:31):The No, no, I think yeah, I'm like, yes, yes, yes. And it also makes me go back to what you said about proximity. And I think that that is part of the design of whiteness, and even what you were saying about faith, and you can correct me, but my understanding is that those who could vote and those who could own property were Christian. And then when enslaved black people started converting to Christianity and saying, I can actually take pieces of this and I can own this and I can have this white enslavers had a conundrum because then they couldn't use the word Christian in the way that they used to justify chattel slavery and wealth disparity. So they created the word white, and so then it was then white people that could own property and could vote. And so what that did was also disable a class solidarity between lower socioeconomic white bodies and newly emancipated black bodies to say, no, we're not in this together struggling against those that own the highest wealth. I have this pseudo connection with bodies that hold wealth because of the color of my skin. And so then it removes both my proximity to my own body and my proximity to bodies that are probably in a similar struggle, very disproportionate and different than my own because I have white privilege. But it also then makes white bodies align with the system instead of co-conspirator with bodies working towards liberation.Rebecca (38:32):I do think that that's true. I think there's a lot of data historically about the intentional division that was driven between poor people in the colonies and wealthy people in the colonies. And I say people because I think the class stratification included enslaved Africans, free Africans, poor whites, native American people that were there as well. And so I think that there was a kind of diversity there in terms of race and ethnicity and nationality that was intentionally split and then reorganize along racial lines. The only thing that I would add on the Christian or the faith spectrum is that there's a book by Jamar TBE called The Color of Compromise. And one of the things that he talks about in that book is the religious debate that was happening when the colonies were being organized around if you proselytize your slave and they convert, then do you have to emancipate them?(39:43):Because in England, the religious law was that you could not enslave or in put a believer into servitude in any form, whether that's indentured servitude or slavery. Well, I got a problem with the premise, the idea that if you were not a Christian in medieval England, I could do whatever I wanted to. The premise is wrong in the first place. The thought that you could own or indenture a human to another human is problematic on its face. So I just want to name that the theological frame that they brought from England was already jacked, and then they superimposed it in the colonies and made a conscious decision at the House of Burgess, which is about a mile from where I'm sitting, made a conscious decision to decide that your conversion to Christianity does not impact any part of your life on earth. It only impacts your eternity. So all you did was by fire insurance, meaning that your eternity is now in heaven and not in hell, but on earth I can do whatever I want. And that split that perversion of the gospel at that moment to decide that the kingdom of God has nothing to do with what is happening on earth is something we're still living with today. Right? It's the reason why you have 90 some odd percent of evangelicals voting for all kinds of policies that absolutely violate every tenant of scripture in the Bible and probably every other holy book on the planet, and then still standing in their pulpit on Sunday morning and preaching that they represent God. It's ridiculous. It's offensive.Danielle (41:38):I just feel like this is proving my point. So I feel like other people may have said this, but who's kept talking about this exchange for whiteness? Bro, we're in the timeline where Jesus, their Jesus said yes to the devil. He's like, give me the power, give me the money, give me the bread. And if you want to come into their religion, you have to trade in how God actually made you for to say yes to that same temptation for power and money and whatever, and erase your face's. One comment. Second comment is this whole thing about not giving healthcare to poor families.(42:20):I hesitate to say this word, but I'm reminded of the story of the people that first came here from England, and I'm aware that they were starving at one point, and I'm aware that they actually ate off their own people, and that's partly how they survived. And it feels the same way to me, here, give us the power, give us the control, give us the money. And we're like, the fact is, is that cutting off healthcare for millions of Americans doesn't affect immigrants at all. They're not on those plans. It affects most poor whites and they have no problem doing it and then saying, come, give me your bread. Come give me your cheese. Come give me your vote. It's like a self flesh eating virus, and(43:20):I am almost speechless from it. There's this rumor that migrants have all the health insurance, and I know that's not true because Luis legally came here. He had paperwork, he was documented, got his green card, then got his citizenship, and even after citizenship to prove we could get health insurance, when he got off his job, we had to not only submit his passport, but his certificate that was proof of citizenship through the state of Washington, a very liberal state to get him on health insurance. So I know there's not 25 million immigrants in the country falsifying those records. That's just not happening. So I know that that's a lie from personal experience, but I also know that the point is, the point is the lie. The point is to tell you the lie and actually stab the person in the back that you're lying to. That just feels dark to me. I went off, sorry, that's kind of off the subject of resilience.Rebecca (44:36):No, I have two reactions to that. The first one is when we were talking just a few minutes ago about the exchange for power and privilege, it's actually a false invitation to a table that doesn't actually exist. That's what, to me is darkest about it. It's the promise of this carrot that you have no intention of ever delivering. And people have so bought into the lie so completely that it's like you didn't even stop to consider that, let alone the ability to actually see this is not actually an invitation to anything. So that is partly what I think about. And if you read the book, the Sum of Us, it actually talks about Sum, SUM, the sum of us. It actually talks about the cost, the economic cost of racism, and each chapter is about a different industry and how there were racist policies set up in that industry.(45:49):And basically the point the author makes is that at every turn, in order to subjugate and oppress a community of color, white people had to sacrifice something for themselves and oppress themselves and disenfranchise themselves in order to pull it off. And they did it anyway because essentially it is wealthy white, it's affluent white male that ends up with the power and the privilege, and everybody else is subjugated and oppressed. And that's a conversation. I don't understand it. The gaslighting is got to be astronomical and brilliant to convince an entire community of people to vote against themselves. So I'm over there with you on the limb, Danielle,Jenny (47:16):Yeah, I am thinking about Fox News and how most impoverished white communities, that is the only source of information that they have because there isn't proximity and there isn't a lot of other conversations. It is exactly what Tucker Carlson or all of these people are spewing. And I think fear is such a powerful tool, and honestly, I don't see it as that different than early indoctrination around hell and using that to capitulate people into the roles that the church wanted them. And so it's like things might be bad now, but there are going to be so much worse quote because of the racial fear mongering of immigrants, of folks of color, of these people coming to take your jobs that if you can work, people who are already struggling into such a frenzy of fear, I think they're going to do things drastically vote for Trump because they think he's going to save the economy because that's what they're hearing, regardless of if that is even remotely true, and regardless of the fact that most white bodies are more likely to be climate refugees than they are to be billionaire friends withRebecca (48:59):So then what does resilience look like in the face of that kind of fearmongering?Jenny (49:24):This is maybe my nihilistic side. I don't know that things are going to get better before they get far worse. And I think that's where the resilience piece comes in. I was like, how do we hold on to our own humanity? How do we hold onto our communities? How do we hold onto hope in the reality that things will likely get worse and worse and worse before some type of reckoning or shift happens,Rebecca(50:23):Yeah. There's actually, I saw an Instagram post a couple months ago, and I want to say it was Bruce Springsteen and he was just lamenting the erosion of art and culture and music in this moment that there's not art in the Oval Office, that there's not, and just his sense that art and music and those kinds of expressions, actually, I don't think he used the word defiance, but that's the sentiment that I walked away with. That is a way to amplify our humanity in a way that invites proximity to cultures and people that are different than you. This whole argument that we're having right now about whether this election of Bad Bunny makes any sense and the different sort of arguments about what the different sides that people have taken on that, it's hilarious. And then there's something about it that feels very real.Danielle (51:31):Yeah, I had someone told me, I'm not watching it because he's a demonic Marxist. I was like, can you be a Marxist and be in the entertainment industry anyway? Clearly, we're going to have to talk about this again. I wrote an essay for good faith media and I was just, I couldn't wrap it up. And they're like, that's okay. Don't wrap it up. It's not meant to be wrapped up. So maybe that's how our conversation is too. I dunno. Jenny, what are you thinking?Jenny (52:13):I have many thoughts, mostly because I just watched one battle after another last night, and I don't want to give any spoilers away, but I feel like it was a really, it's a very million trigger warnings piece of art that I think encapsulates so much of what we're talking about and sort of this transgenerational story of resilience and what does it mean whether that is my own children or other children in this world to lean into, this probably isn't going to end with me. I'm probably not going to fix this. So how do we continue to maybe push the ball forward in the midst of the struggle for future generations? And I think I'm grateful for this space. I think this is one of the ways that we maybe begin to practice and model what proximity and difference and resilience can look like. And it's probably not always going to be easy or there's going to be struggles that probably come even as we work on engaging this together. And I'm grateful that we get to engage this together.Danielle (53:35):Well, we can always continue our thoughts next week. That's right. Yeah, Rebecca. Okay, I'll be locked in, especially because I said it in the podcast.Rebecca (53:48):I know. I do agree with that. Jenny, I particularly agree having this conversation, the three of us intentionally staying in each other's lives, checking on each other, checking in with each other, all that feels like this sort of defiant intentional resilience, particularly in a moment in history where things that have been our traditional expression of resilience have been cut off like it In recent US history, any major change happened, usually started on the college campus with public protests and public outcry, and those avenues have been cut off. It is no longer safe to speak out on a college campus. People are losing their degrees, they're getting kicked out of colleges, they're getting expelled from colleges for teachers are getting fired for expressing viewpoints that are not in line with the majority culture at this moment. And so those traditional avenues of resilience, I think it was an intentional move to go after those spaces first to shut down what we would normally do to rally collectively to survive a moment. And so I think part of what feels hard in this moment is we're having to reinvent them. And I think it's happening on a micro level because those are the avenues that we've been left with, is this sort of micro way to be resistant and to be resilient.Danielle (55:31):As you can see, we didn't finish our conversation this round, so check out the next episode. After this, we'll be wrapping up this conversation or at least continuing it. 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And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that.

What do you really want the second half of your life to look like?  Being a doormat for others, then resenting it? Saying yes, when you really mean no? Doing more tasks or more work, taking responsibility for everything, and feeling overwhelmed in your life?  This can be how so many of us in midlife feel, but I'm here to tell you there IS another way.  In this episode, I sit down with expert Beatriz Albina to talk about a challenge so many women face but can't always name—patterns of overgiving, perfectionism, and the ultimate people-pleasing trap.  Beatriz introduces the concept of emotional outsourcing and how it quietly drives these behaviors, leaving us feeling stuck and drained.  Together, we discuss how reframing your mindset is a powerful tool for reclaiming your emotional well-being. Plus, Beatriz gives us a sneak peek into her brand-new book, End Emotional Outsourcing—a guide to finding freedom, balance, and true self-connection. Tune in here to reignite joy in your life, and find the inner peace you've been craving for years!  Beatriz Albina Beatriz (Béa) Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, and author of the book "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits". She's dedicated to helping people socialized as women reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems, and rewire their minds to break free from codependency, perfectionism, and people-pleasing. Béa hosts the Feminist Wellness Podcast, and holds a Master's degree in Public Health from Boston University School of Public Health and a BA in Latin American Studies from Oberlin College. IN THIS EPISODE What is emotional outsourcing, and how can it impact women?  Getting back to the basics for our emotional needs  How our emotions lie in our nervous system– not just our minds   Calming techniques you can do in 5 seconds, anytime, anywhere Detaching from labels like ‘co-dependent' and ‘perfectionist'  How to stay regulated while also setting boundaries  Why reframing your mindset is so important for healing  All about Beatriz's book: End Emotional Outsourcing  QUOTES “This is what happens when we get activated or triggered in our nervous system. When we start being mean to ourselves, when we ignore our impulses, when we project, when we take things personally, when we get offended, all these things– our nervous system is in a different time and place.”  “That's the self-worth work. Saying, ‘I trust myself, I believe in myself, and so I know that this isn't a problem.' And that's that. Not allowing any other thoughts to enter your beautiful mind space, your world, your body. It's really vital work.”  “What our children and our partners, and our friends and our communities and ourselves want and need from us the most, most, most, is presence. Intunement and presence.”  RESOURCES MENTIONED Use code ENERGIZED and get $100 off on your CAROL Bike purchase https://carolbike.pxf.io/GK3LaE Preorder the Perimenopause Revolution and get your VIP ticket to the Perimenopause Solution event  http://hayh.site/pr_bl_ap-snyder_a_opt Order Béa's book: End Emotional Outsourcing HERE http://beatrizalbina.com/book Béa's Website Béa's Instagram RELATED EPISODES  #629: Unlocking Emotional Resilience with Awareness, Lifestyle and Tools to Regulate Your Stress Triggers with Dr. Drew Ramsey #553: Simple Ways to Start Feeling Calm and Safe and How to Align Your Nervous System for More Abundance with Kate Northrup #565: How to Live in a State of Ease and Flow vs. Overwhelm and Resentment + Reclaiming Your Aliveness with Alexi Panos #569: How to Build a Strong Emotional Connection with Your Partner and How to Transform Your Love Life with Vanessa and Xander Marin

Bio: Jenny - Co-Host Podcast (er):I am Jenny! (She/Her) MACP, LMHCI am a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, Certified Yoga Teacher, and an Approved Supervisor in the state of Washington.I have spent over a decade researching the ways in which the body can heal from trauma through movement and connection. I have come to see that our bodies know what they need. By approaching our body with curiosity we can begin to listen to the innate wisdom our body has to teach us. And that is where the magic happens!I was raised within fundamentalist Christianity. I have been, and am still on my own journey of healing from religious trauma and religious sexual shame (as well as consistently engaging my entanglement with white saviorism). I am a white, straight, able-bodied, cis woman. I recognize the power and privilege this affords me socially, and I am committed to understanding my bias' and privilege in the work that I do. I am LGBTQIA+ affirming and actively engage critical race theory and consultation to see a better way forward that honors all bodies of various sizes, races, ability, religion, gender, and sexuality.I am immensely grateful for the teachers, healers, therapists, and friends (and of course my husband and dog!) for the healing I have been offered. I strive to pay it forward with my clients and students. Few things make me happier than seeing people live freely in their bodies from the inside out!Danielle (00:28):Welcome to the Arise Podcast, conversations based in what our reality is, faith, race, justice, gender in the church, therapy, all matter of things considered just exploring this topic of reality. Hey, I'm having this regular podcast co-host. Her name is Jenny McGrath. She's an M-A-C-P-L-M-H-C. She's dope. She's a licensed mental health counselor, a somatic experiencing practitioner, certified yoga teacher, and an approved supervisor in the state of Washington. She spent over a decade researching the ways in which the body can heal from trauma through movement and connection. And she's come to see that bodies are so important and she believes that by approaching the body with curiosity, we can begin to listen to the innate wisdom our body has to teach us. And that is where the magic happens. So I hope you're as thrilled as me to have such an amazing co-host join me. Yeah, we're going to talk about reality and therapy. We're just jumping in. Jenny and I are both writing books.Jenny, I think it's funny that we are good friends and we see each other when we're around each other, but then if not, we're always trading reels and often they're like parodies on real life. Funny things about real life that are happening, which I've been, the theme of my book is called Splitting, and I know you write about purity culture, and a part of that I think really has to do with what is our reality and how is it formed? And then that shapes what we do, how we act, how we behave in the world, how we relate to each other. So any thoughts on that? On Thursday, September 25th,Jenny (02:17):I mean, as you named that, I think 10 minutes before this started, I sent you a reel. There was a comedian singing Why She Doesn't Go to Therapy, and it says, all my friends that go to therapy are mean to me, and you don't have boundaries. You're just being an asshole. And it was good, but it was also existential. This was what seems to me a white woman. And I do think as a white woman who's a therapist, I feel existential a lot about the work I do in therapy and in healing spaces, and how we do this in a way that doesn't promote this hyper individualistic reality. And this idea that everything I see and everything I think is the way that it is, how do I stay open to more of a communal or collective way of knowing? And I think that that's a challenging thing. So that's something that comes to mind for me as you bring up Instagram reels.Danielle (03:26):Oh man, I have so many thoughts on that that I wasn't thinking before you said it, but I think they were all locked in a vault, been unleashed. No, seriously. You come from your own position in the world. Talk about your position and how did you come to that point of seeing more of a collective mindset or reality point of view?Jenny (03:47):I mean, honestly, I think a big part has been knowing you and working with you and knowing that I think we've had conversations over the years of both the privilege and the detriment that happens in a lot of white therapeutic spaces that say you just need detach from your family, from your community, from those who have harmed you. And I want to be very, very clear and very careful that obviously I do think that there are situations we need to extract ourselves from and remove ourselves from. And I think that can become disabling for bodies to, I've been having this thing play in my head lately where I'm like, are you healed? Or have you just cut off everyone that triggers you?Yeah, and I saw another, speaking of meme, it was like, I treat my trauma like Trump treats tariffs. I just implement boundaries arbitrarily, and they harm everyone.And so I think it's, there is a certain privilege that comes with being able to say, I'm just going to step away. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my healing journey. And I think there is a detriment to that and there's a loss. And I think we have co-evolved to be in community and to tell stories and to share reality and to hold reality in the tension of our space. I think about it as we each have a different lens. There's no objective reality, but if I can be open to your lens and you can be open to my lens, then we actually have two lenses, and then if we have five lenses or 10 lenses, we can have a much fuller picture of where we are rather than seeing the world through the really monochromatic white, patriarchal, Christian nationalist lens that we've been maybe conditioned, or at least I was conditioned to see the world through.Danielle (06:10):Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, I know we've talked about this so many times, and I think it just feels so present right now, especially as every moment it feels like every day. If you watch the news, if you don't take a break, I think you can be jarred at any moment or dissociated at any moment, or traumatized at any moment, or maybe feel a bit of joy too when someone says a smack down on your side of the issue. And I think that when we get in that mode of constantly being jarred and then we try to come into a healing space, it's like how do we determine then what is actually healing for us? What is actually good? What is actually wise? And I agree, I think if we're in a rhythm of being on our own, and I'm not criticizing, I mean, I get lonely and I'm part of a group, so I'm not speaking to loneliness particularly, but I'm speaking to the idea that no one else has input in your life, even the kind of input you may not agree with, but no one else is allowed to speak to you.(07:15):When I get in those spaces, it's not that I just feel lonely, I don't feel any hope. I don't feel any movement or any possibility because let's say that this ends tomorrow, that authoritarian regime magically ends. It's healed tomorrow. We're going to have to look at all of our people in our lives and face them and decide what we're going to do. I mean, that's what I think about a lot. At the end of the day, I might sit next to someone that hates me or that I perhaps might have rage and anger towards them. What are we going to do? So I don't know, when you talk about the different lenses, I'm not sure how that all mixes together. I don't have an answer, basically. Shoot.Jenny (08:05):But I also think that that's part of maybe how we hold reality is maybe it is more about presence and being with what is, rather than having an answer, I think I become more and more skeptical of anyone who says they have an answer for anything.Danielle (08:31):So I mean, there was this guy that recently passed away, and there was, on one hand I wanted to really talk about it, and on the other hand, I didn't want to talk about it because it took up so much space. And I feel that even as we start to talk about how do we form healing spaces in therapy with that, I think, what did you call it that, what kind of lens did you say? It was like a monochromatic lens. How do we talk about that without centering it?Jenny (09:08):I think one thing that comes to mind is holding it in context of all of the other deaths that have not taken up that space. And the social studies phrase, what are the conditions of possibility that have enabled this death to create church services happening that have taken over people's social media, people who have been silent about lots of different deaths in the last year or five years, all of a sudden can't help but become really vigilant about talking about this. I think for me, it helps to zoom back and go, how come? Why is this so prevalent? Why is this so loud? What is this illuminating or what is this unearthing about? What's already been here?So I grew up in very fundamentalist, white evangelical Christianity. And from the time I was eight, nine years old, I had in me messages instilled of martyrdom, whether that was a message that I should be a martyr, or whether that was a message that Christians were already being martyred, whether that was the war against Christmas with Starbucks cups or not having prayers happen at school. And these things where I grew up in this world where we were supposed to be prominent, we were supposed to be prevalent, we were supposed to be protected. And whenever there was any challenge to that from bodies that weren't white or straight or Christian or American, there became this very real frenzy around martyrdom. And I think on an interpersonal level and on a collective level, someone who plays the victim will always hold the most power in the relational dynamic. And so I think that this moment was a very useful moment to that psyche and that reality of seeing the world as a victim, as a martyr, as being persecuted, regardless of the fact that evangelical Christians are the strongest floating block in our nation. They have incredible privilege when it comes to a lot of education, marriage inequality, things like that, that are from the long lineage of Christian nationalism in our country.Danielle (12:15):So then how do you work with folks that are coming in with that lens, and what's the responsibility of our field? I know you and I can't answer that question necessarily, but we can just say from our own experience what that's like. Are you willing to share a little bit of that?What would I say? My client load is mixed and so do a lot of work, but just because it's mixed doesn't mean that I'm not currently undoing that process in myself as well. So I think just as much as therapy is about whoever comes into my office or shows up in the zoom room or even a group or a teaching we've been a part of, I think it's, well, I mean we say this co-created, but I actually mean it means I have to keep learning. I have to keep trying to be in my body. And what I mean by that is I was talking to my friend Phil yesterday, and he was like, Danielle, are you tracking your body sensations? And he's like, I just challenge you to do that today. And I was like, man, that that's a good reminder. So I think one way I try to come with clients is from the perspective of I don't know it all.(13:38):I only know what I'm feeling and sensing in this moment, and I have that to offer along with other things I've studied, of course. But just because the person sitting with me doesn't have a degree or the group and the people, doesn't mean they don't know just as much as me. It's just another form of maybe learning or knowing or presence and healing. And then we're figuring that out together. I see that as one way of undoing, undoing this. I know everything point of view, which I kind of felt like I had to have when I came out of grad school. Yeah,Jenny (14:14):Yeah, totally. Yeah, I feel similar and I think often think in quotes. And so one of my favorite quotes is by Simone Devo, and she says, without a doubt, it is always more comfortable to endure blind bondage than to work for one's liberation. And so I am consistently asking, where is my blind bondage? Who are the people in my life that will show me where my blind bondage is? Who are the people that will hold me accountable to my own liberation? And for me as a therapist, I work primarily with white folks who grew up in fundamental Christianity. And over 10 years of doing that work, I think that a primary part of my work is radical agency(15:13):Because I think that particularly white bodies maintain privilege by abdicating our agency and by being compliant with the systems that give us power and give us privilege. And so I think for me, my ethic is how do I help clients come into contact with their radical agency? And so a big part of that that I think is important is consent. And so if someone is coming to work with me, it's part of my disclosure form, it's part of my intake to say, I don't think our mental health concerns or our somatic concerns exist in a bubble. They are deeply impacted by the systems we move through. And so while we'll be engaging your individual body, we're also going to be engaging the collective structures. And I've had people say, no, I don't want to do that work. And I say, great, there are other lovely therapists that will work with you and be a better fit. That's just not the type of therapy I do. That's not within my scope of practice to only focus on the individual, because for me, that's unethical.Danielle (16:23):Oh, that's cool. I like that, Jenny. I think that a lot. I was consulting recently, and we're just talking about this current moment, and I'll just say from my point of view that even in my family, I noticed when something had gone on locally, we have some organizing that we do and we had some warnings go out. And I noticed even in my own family, the heightened anxiety, the alert, and one of the things we had to do was we took turns driving around just making sure everybody's safe and everybody was safe. And I came down and at the point where people began to lower anxiety, and we're talking about just regular business owners, regular people out there, we're not even talking about immigrants, quote migrants. We're just talking about people out there that don't want to encounter force. You could feel the anxiety just lower now that we went the parking lot's clear, no one's here, we're safe. This isn't happening, not today. I'm not saying it won't happen here in our area of the country, but it's not happening today. And I realized in consultation later about clients and stuff that things are going to, but the clinician I was consulting with just said to me, she said to me, just for your family, she's like, that anxiety is warranted. That's real. You're supposed to feel anxious. There's no way you can take that away for those people and you shouldn't.(18:02):And so just kind of learning, reminding myself, when you go to grad school, when you study therapy and psychology, there's pathological, there's diagnoses, all these things, but then there's some things like we just can't take away. They're part of the experience. They need to be there. They're part of the warning. And there's a reason why when you get out and do something practical for a community, the anxiety lowers. And I think that just gave me a lot of insight, not just for my client, but for my family and for myself. And there's some calm, not because I'm anxious, but because, oh, I'm not crazy. I'm not just making this up. And so I do think that speaks to how the system is creating trauma and it is powerless. What can we do against the big bad authorities? And we can do things, we can connect, we can be with people, but at some level, that baseline of anxiety is going to be there because it's warranted. That's how I think of it.What do we do? Well, we sat at home, we watched sports. We went to Best Buy, and this is not every, we had some privilege. We bought an extra controller to play Mario World or whatever it was. I don't remember, but I was like, I'm not playing on that little controller. They wanted me to hold. I was like, I need a real controller. I'm old. I need to be able to feel it in my hands. Just silly stuff. Just didn't put pressure on the kids to do homework. Not a pressure to clean the house, just to just exist. Just be, yeah. What about you? What do you do when you encounter either anxiety from trauma like that or the systemic pressure maybe to even conform to whiteness or privilege in that moment?Jenny (20:12):I typically need to move my body in some way, whether that's to take my dog on a very long walk or whether that's just to roll around on a dance floor or maybe do a yoga practice. I become aware of how my body is holding that, and I think about how emotions are just energy in motion. And so if we don't give them motion and expression, it becomes like a battery pack in our nervous system. And so I can feel that if I haven't been able to move and to express whatever my body needs to express, and often I don't even know cognitively what my body needs to express, but I've grown in trust that my body knows, and I say, I think the sillier we look the better it usually feels. I just saw this lovely post the other day, a movement person did where they, we talk a lot about brainwashing, but we don't talk a lot about body washing, and we are so conditioned to only move our body in certain ways. And because our body is not different than our brain, I think that the more free we feel in our actual physical body to our own ability, the more that can actually create a little bit more mobility in how we see reality and how we engage with it.Danielle (21:44):So take that back to the beginning where you started talking about how when you have clients come in, you're like, yo, we're going to address this systemically and collectively. What do you do with folks when they have that kind of energy and you guys are working through it and it's like, oh, it's like maybe that's collective energy. What do you do? Yeah,Jenny (22:02):Yeah. I ask my clients probably annoying amount of times each session, what do you notice right now? And then I follow their body. So if their body says like, oh, I feel a lot of tension in my gut instead of alleviating that, I go, okay, great. Can you actually exaggerate that tension a little bit and see what happens? See if that tension wants to come out in a snarl or a growl, or maybe you want to curl up in a ball and I just follow whatever the impulses of their body are. Or if they say like, oh, I feel a lot in my shoulders. I'm like, great. Do you want to go push against a wall or push against the floor or punch a pillow and let your body actually get some movement into those spaces that you're sensing?Well, as I said, I'm very skeptical about individual work, even though I do it, I don't think is all that. I think it is both necessary and not that helpful for the collective(23:21):Because it is individual. And so I actually do think we need collective spaces of moving and expressing and being in our bodies. I think our ancestors knew this for before Christian supremacy and then white supremacy and then capitalistic supremacy eradicated how we've evolved to move in our and collectively. That being said, I do think that the more we become aware of how our body is constrained and how we've been socialized, especially I think for anybody, but for me, I'll speak to white bodies, we aren't always conscious. We take for granted whiteness and how it affects our bodies. So the first time I'm asking a white person, especially maybe a white woman to look pissed, that's going to be probably really scary because socially we are not actually allowed to be pissed. We're allowed to be dams, souls, and we're allowed to freak out, but we're not actually allowed to be strong and be powerful and be angry. And so I do believe that in that work of individual liberation and freedom, it actually helps us resist those roles and those performances of white womanhood that then perpetuate collective harm.Danielle (24:49):I can see how that shift would really impact the way one person both connects with their neighbor or a different person, even same race or same culture, and would impact not only how they relate and connect to that person, but also just how they might love.Jenny (25:10):Yeah, because I think it is dangerous. It is disproportionately dangerous to oppressed bodies when white women aren't holding our own anger because I think that there is a deferral to the police, to governing bodies to different authorities when a white woman is actually pissed, rather than saying like, Hey, you did this and it pissed me off, let's work it out here. Oftentimes that ends up actually getting policed to authorities that then disproportionately harm oppressed bodies. And so I think it is essential for white women to grow our capacity to bear. No, I actually am pissed and I can acknowledge that and engage that and be with it in myself.I do. I do actually. So I have been working on a book for the last six years in which I'm looking at the socialization of young white women in purity culture and this political moment of Invisible children, which was this documentary style film that manipulated an entire generation of young white women to get involved in missions or development. And so as part of my research, I interviewed many white women who grew up in purity culture and became missionaries. And there were some that maybe still had good relations with organizations such as invisible children and felt threatened or maybe pissed that I was inquiring into this. And so instead of engaging and talking about the emotions that were coming up, they went straight to interrogating my IRB and then went straight to is this research ethical? Even though I could tell they were really just angry and upset about what I was interrogating, and I would've much rather we could have that conversation than this quick sense of I'm going to go to the structures while I can maintain feeling like this demure pleasantness of white womanhood, even though I could feel the energy. And that's an example for me, and I have white privilege, and so there was still threat there, but it was not probably to the same degree that it could be if I didn't hold that same power and privilege that I do.Scared. I felt really scared and I had done everything ethically. I had hired my own IRB to oversee my research. I did their protocol and still I felt the wielding of power and the sense of I can move the system to act against you if I don't like what you're doing. And so it was really, really scary. And then I had to move my anxiety and my body and I had to shake because what I do often when I get scared and I had to let my body discharge that adrenaline and that cortisol, and then I was able to back to myself and respond and say, it sounds like you have some concerns, and being interviewed is totally optional so you don't have to do it. And then I never heard back from 'em, and so it was just helpful for me to get to move that through. Even in part of that process,Danielle (29:27):Jenny, is that energy still in you now or is it gong?Jenny (29:30):Oh yeah, totally. I can feel my body vibrating and even there's that fear of like, oh shit, what's going to happen if I talk about this? I can feel the silencingThe demand to be small and not to expose it because then I'm open to fill in the blank. And so I can feel the sense of how power wants to keep us from speaking truth to power and to those that wield it.Danielle (30:02):Man, I want to swear so bad, motherfucker. I'm not surprised. But I do think I continue to allow myself to be shocked. And I think the thing is, I know this can happen. I know it will happen. I think both you and I are writing on topics that are very interrogate this moment in a very particular way that's threatening. And so although I'm not surprised, I am allowing myself to continually be shocked, not I want to re-traumatize myself, but I don't want to lose the feeling of there might be somebody good out there, this might be well received. And also I want to maintain that feeling of like, man, I really love my friend. I believe in her. And I think allowing myself to kind of hold all those things kind of just allows me to wake up for the moment versus just numbing out to it. Man,So vicious. It's so vicious because you aren't taking their money, you aren't literally hurting them physically. You're not taking their power, and yet there's this full force. You've dedicated your life to this thing and they could take you out.Jenny (31:19):Yeah, and I think it's primarily because I am questioning white women's innocence and I think based on how race and gender work, a white woman's privilege and power comes from this presumed purity and innocence. And so if we start to disrupt that and go, actually, I'm human and I've done some shit and I've, I've caused harm and I will cause harm, and that's actually a really important part of me working out my humanity. Then I'm stepping out of the bounds of being protected under white patriarchy.Danielle (32:06):I feel like I learned, I feel like so much resonance with that. I've had many similar experiences, but one stands out where right after the election I talked with a friend of mine on the phone, and I don't remember if she is a white colleague from same grad school and said something like, oh, it's just a bummer. And we didn't really talk about it. And I was like, that's all you could say. I thought about that. And later I sent a really kind text saying, Hey, that really hurt my feelings. I don't know. It doesn't make sense why we haven't talked about it more. And then I didn't hear back. It just went silent. This is someone I'd known for seven years.(32:45):Then later I called and I was like, Hey, what's up? And they're like, I can't believe you would write that to me If I ever engage you again, I want to start here. Some other random place. I was just sat back and I was like, I'm not giving this any more energy at that time. I said that to myself and it was just like the complete collapse when I said, you hurt my feelings, the complete collapse. When I said, I don't understand this, can we talk about it? And then I went through this period this summer of just having this feeling. I don't want to be at odds with people. So I left this person a voicemail saying, Hey man, can we talk? I haven't heard back from them, but I feel like I did my part. But I'm just struck it even in down from the big view, like the 30,000 foot view or how that person wants to reign the system on you to even interpersonally, if I don't like what you said, I'm just going to remove my presence,Jenny (33:51):Which I think again, is so much of the epidemic of whiteness. And I think it then produces such a fragility that's like I don't actually know how to bear open conflict and disruption because I'm not practiced at it, and I just will escape every time someone calls me to accountability or says something I don't like. And we can't stay in that place of tension.Yeah. Well, I think one is that I feel those tendencies so much in my own body, and I do think that we have capacity to metabolize them. And so I literally might say something like, great, could you let your body get up and run around the room or run in place? Or maybe you stay seated but you let your legs and your arms kick. And they think that if we even just let ourselves express I want to fight, or if I want to flee or I want to get away from this and we let our body do what we need to do, we can then come back to ourselves and have fuller access to our capacity. And again, sometimes I do think there are relationships or communities or things that we do need to step away from. And sometimes if we've only ever learned to say yes, we might go through a process where we swing to the other side and we just cut everyone out and then we get to learn how to have discernment and how to enter into relationships thoughtfully and how to know who are those people we will be investing in probably for a long time.(35:43):And so it's not denying that those impulses are there, but it's letting our bodies metabolize them and work through them. And it makes me think of res, menkin talks about dirty pain versus clean pain, and I think dirty pain is just like, this hurts. I'm going to avoid it. And just disconnect and dissociate clean pain is like this hurts and I'm going to press into it and I'm going to see what it can teach me and how I can grow into a stronger, more mature person through this process.Danielle (36:16):Man, that sounds like some good work you could do with somebody. I think the thing about therapy, coming back to what you said at the beginning is I think we want a quick answer. We want, we want to go to a retreat, we want to show up at the gym. In my case, I go to the gym often. We want to go somewhere, we want to feel like we did it, we accomplished it. And often at the gym, I can hear my coaches are saying just little steps. Every week and above doing lots of weight, it's showing up as much as you can, being consistent. And I kind of hear that in a little bit of what you're saying. It's not like getting to the end right away. It's tracking your body and the sensations and showing up for yourself even in that way.Jenny (37:08):And I think even like that, I love that analogy. I often say relationships are like muscles. They're only as strong as the ruptures that they can handle. And stronger muscles have had more and more and more and more ruptures. We build muscle through tearing and rebuilding. And I think that that's the same with relationship too. But if we've never torn, then we're so afraid of what's going to happen. If there is a rupture,Danielle:I don't know that we're going to heal that, but someone recently said the system is collapsing. It really is. It's coming down on itself. And I think really it's going to come down to the work that you talked about at the beginning, however people are choosing to see it. But one way you talked about it was that monochromatic lens and adding a lens, adding a lens. And I do think the challenge for all of us, even to form something new, whether that means new government, I don't know what it means, but just even a new way of being together set the government aside. It means really forming, adding lenses to ourselves. Jenny, I hope you're coming back to talk to me again.It's okay. Where can they find your stuff? Tell me.Jenny (38:42):Yeah, so I'm on Instagram at indwell movement, and then my website is indwell movement.com. So find me at either of those places, email me, reach out, send a message, would love to connect.Danielle (38:59):Okay, cool. Well, that's a wrap on this episode. If you can share, download, subscribe, tune into what we're talking about. But more important, have a conversation with a friend, a colleague, a neighbor, challenge your therapist, challenge your family. Don't forget to keep talking. And at the end of the show notes are resources, just some resources. They aren't the end all, be all of resources, but I'm putting 'em in there because I want you to know it's important to do resourcing for ourselves. As always, thank you for joining us, and at the end of the podcast are notes and resources, and I encourage you to stay connected to those who are loving in your path and in your community. 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When you stop outsourcing your safety, belonging, and worth, you discover the freedom of authenticity–of knowing who you are and what you want. In this episode, I speak with Béa Albina about her new book, End Emotional Outsourcing: How to Overcome Your Codependent, Perfectionist, and People-Pleasing Habits. You'll hear how this book not only outlines a clear path to end this painful way of living, but reframes emotional outsourcing in powerful new ways. Here's what we cover:The definition of emotional outsourcing and how it shows up in our relationships, careers, and decision-makingWhy emotional outsourcing is a brilliant survival strategy, not a personality flawThe truth about authenticity and why it's often the cost of people-pleasing and perfectionismHow emotional outsourcing lives in the nervous system and why healing has to include the bodyBéa's five-part process for rebuilding self-trust through small, “kitten-sized” stepsBeatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, author of the forthcoming "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits" ( Sept 30, Hachette Balance) and Breathwork Meditation Guide with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy.Find Béa here:https://beatrizalbina.com/book/https://www.instagram.com/beatrizvictoriaalbinanp/https://www.facebook.com/beatrizvictoriaalbinanphttps://beatrizalbina.com/podcast/Find Sara here:https://sarafisk.coachhttps://pages.sarafisk.coach/difficultconversationshttps://www.instagram.com/sarafiskcoach/https://www.facebook.com/SaraFiskCoaching/https://www.tiktok.com/@sarafiskcoachhttps://www.youtube.com/@sarafiskcoaching1333What happens inside the free Stop People Pleasing Facebook Community? Our goal is to provide help and guidance on your journey to eliminate people pleasing and perfectionism from your life. We heal best in a safe community where we can grow and learn together and celebrate and encourage each other. This group is for posting questions about or experiences with material learned in The Ex-Good Girl podcast, Sara Fisk Coaching social media posts or the free webinars and trainings provided by Sara Fisk Coaching. See you inside!Book a Free Consult

What happens when you put two Leo Queens in a room–well, this week's podcast for one. But mostly, you get a lot of laughs, massive helpings of honesty, and loads of hard-earned wisdom. This week on Bound + Determined, I'm chatting with Beatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP, all about codependency, perfectionism, and people-pleasing– OH MY! And from what I know about myself and the women around me, this episode couldn't have come soon enough. Béa is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, and author of the forthcoming book End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits (Sept 30, Hachette Balance) with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy. She is the host of the Feminist Wellness Podcast, holds a Masters degree in Public Health from Boston University School of Public Health and a BA in Latin American Studies from Oberlin College.  Basically, she's here to save us from our own downfall. Tune in!  

In today`s episode I`m talking to Dr. Cacky Mellor who invites us to reframe shame as a sacred space - a place where healing begins, stories are reclaimed, and the body becomes a source of power rather than pain. We explore how trauma, illness, and cultural conditioning shape our inner narratives - and how somatic work can help us come home to ourselves.Dr. Cacky Mellor is a teacher, healer, and community builder whose work blends art therapy, somatics, complementary medicine, and depth psychology to support trauma resilience and healing on both personal and community levels. She specializes in women and femme empowerment, helping people reclaim their bodies and stories through her remote practice, Somatic Reclamation.With a background in art therapy and holistic psychology, Cacky holds a Master's in art-based activism and social entrepreneurship, is a Master Somatic Movement Therapist and Educator, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, yoga teacher, and Reiki master. She also earned her Ph.D. in Depth Psychology with a focus on Somatic Studies from Pacifica Graduate Institute. Her work is deeply rooted in community, social justice, and the transformative power of the arts and embodied healing.This is such a deep, generous and raw conversation about the essence of life - this gentle meeting of who we are on a deepest soul level. Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flurinathali.substack.com

Do you ever feel like no matter how much you want things to change, you keep ending up back in the same old patterns? In this powerful conversation, Kate has an incredibly potent and vulnerable conversation with Nicole Lohse—her dear friend and brilliant Somatic Experiencing Practitioner —to explore the sneaky ways we block ourselves from the love, freedom, and expansion we crave.We dive into:Why “trying harder” often backfiresHow your nervous system might be running the show (without you realizing it)Simple practices to create safety so real transformation can happen The difference between thinking your way out vs. feeling your way throughThis episode is equal parts enlightening and practical—you'll walk away with a roadmap to understanding your trauma, your nervous system and your patterns so you can start living with more ease, choice, and possibility. Resources & Next Steps:FREE Discover Your Saboteur Mini Course: https://www.theunscriptdwoman.com/discover-your-saboteurSubscribe to The New Truth & leave a review if this episode resonates deeplyExplore The Immersion with Kate: https://www.theunscriptdwoman.com/the-immersionTo book a Free Call to explore working with Kate - click the link below: https://calendly.com/expanded-love/exploration-call-clone About the Guest:Nicole Lohse — a guide, teacher, and healer who helps people move beyond survival patterns and reconnect with their inherent wholeness. She reminds us there's nothing to fix—our patterns exist for a reason, often rooted in trauma and the ways we've learned to get through life. Nicole's work blends body-based awareness, nervous system reprogramming, and soul-level inquiry. Through deep listening and intuitive guidance, she creates spaces where people can relate differently to themselves and their experiences, allowing real change to unfold at a cellular, energetic, and soul level.Website: www.nicolelohse.com Podcast - www.nicolelohse.com/experiential-podcast Download The Experiential Guide - www.nicolelohse.com/experiential-guide Book a call - www.nicolelohse.com/lets-chat Instagram - www.instagram.com/nlohseAbout the Host:Kate Harlow is the founder of The Unscriptd Woman, the creator of The Expanded Love Coaching Method, and host of The New Truth podcast - ranked in the top 1.5% globally. With over 15 years of experience teaching, coaching and facilitating transformational retreats worldwide, Kate has helped hundreds of thousands of women break free from outdated relational patterns, old patriarchal ways of thinking and unspoken rules to live by. Her infallible methods guide women to release the deeply ingrained scripts that keep them stuck- empowering women to step into their highest, most magnetic, and fully expressed selves. Through her coaching, retreats, podcast and upcoming book The...

At the core of Jungian psychology lies the concept of individuation, a lifelong journey of growing into one's whole self. It's a process of self-discovery that can feel both inspiring and challenging as each layer of inauthenticity or protective strategy surfaces, then sloughs away. One therapist combines her Jungian background with NARM's spirit of inquiry to help her clients embrace the nature of individuation and reconnect to their unique selves. On this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Ruth welcomes Megan Holm (LMFT), NARM® Master Therapist, and Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner to discuss the beautiful and unsettling unfolding that can occur when we commit to exploring depth within ourselves. The pair also explores where NARM and Jungian psychology overlap––developing the capacity to hold tension that arises with deeper self-exploration and creating space for noticing rather than judging. About Megan Holm: Megan Holm is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT), NARM® Master Therapist, and Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner in private practice. She has served as a training assistant in NARM Therapist and Master Therapist Trainings. Megan is currently a training candidate at the International School of Analytical Psychology (ISAP) in Zurich, Switzerland. She continues to see clients in the US, working on themes of relationship patterns, belonging, grief and loss, and self-discovery. Megan is most interested in what Carl Jung calls Individuation: the lifelong process of becoming one's own unique and whole self. It is a process of self-realization and discovery, seeing ourselves as we are rather than as we wish to be. Our symptoms are a door for this work – they invite us to look inwards, to listen to what has gone untended or under-nourished. Fantasy, imagination, and dreams offer further guidance, helping us to see more clearly who we are and what we uniquely bring to the world. Knowing oneself is an undertaking – a humbling journey that Megan feels honored to take together. Learn More: https://meganholm.com/ *** SPACE: SPACE is an Inner Development Program of Support and Self-Discovery for Therapists on the Personal, Interpersonal, and Transpersonal Levels offered by the Complex Trauma Training Center. This experiential learning program offers an immersive group experience designed to cultivate space for self-care, community support, and deepening vitality in our professional role as therapists. Learn more about how to join. *** The Complex Trauma Training Center: https://complextraumatrainingcenter.com View upcoming trainings: https://complextraumatrainingcenter.com/schedule/ *** The Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC) is a professional organization providing clinical training, education, consultation, and mentorship for psychotherapists and mental health professionals working with individuals and communities impacted by Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Trauma (C-PTSD). CTTC provides NARM® Therapist and NARM® Master Therapist Training programs, as well as ongoing monthly groups in support of those learning NARM. CTTC offers a depth-oriented professional community for those seeking a supportive network of therapists focused on three levels of shared human experience: personal, interpersonal & transpersonal. The Transforming Trauma podcast embodies the spirit of CTTC – best described by its three keywords: depth, connection, and heart - and offers guidance to those interested in effective, transformational trauma-informed care. We want to connect with you! Facebook @complextraumatrainingcenter Instagram @cttc_training LinkedIn YouTube

Send us a textEla and I have been excited about this episode for quite some time.Stefanie Michele* is a binge eating recovery coach as well as host of the very popular Life After Diets podcast with former guest Sarah Dosanjh.She has recently completed her training as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and now approaches her recovery coaching through this trauma-informed lens.Through our conversation, we touched on the following topics:Why striving to be 'body positive' doesn't work for everyone.Are we applying our perfectionist gaze to body image work?How can we start 'feeling' more and 'thinking' less about our bodies and how we look.Why binge eating recovery is possible at any age.How being body neutral doesn't mean not caring about our bodies.The 2 bodies that live within us: the Objectified Body vs the Living BodyPlease listen to the episode and enjoy.  We'd love to hear your thoughts.*Stefanie Michele is a coach, writer, somatic practitioner, and certified Intuitive Eating counselor. She draws on both her professional training and her own lived experience of recovery to help people heal from binge eating, restriction cycles, body image struggles, and the pull of diet culture. Stefanie co-hosts the Life After Diets podcast and writes on Substack about the bigger cultural forces that shape how we relate to ourselves. Her work blends psychology, nervous system science, and real-world experience to guide people toward a more peaceful relationship with food and themselves. Please reach out if you would like some support with your relationship to food OR movement. Ela currently has limited spaces for Intuitive Eating coaching and if you'd like to reconnect with movement, contact Christine.AND if you enjoyed this episode, please share and follow the 'Find Your Strong podcast' and if you have time, write us a short review. It would honestly mean the world. Love to you all, Ela & Christine x

Why do we keep choosing emotionally unavailable partners, striving for perfection, or pushing ourselves to the brink of burnout? In this episode, I'm joined by Sarah Baldwin, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and trauma-informed coach, to explore the nervous system patterns behind perfectionism, anxious overachieving, childhood imprinting, and why we're often drawn to partners who reflect our earliest wounds. Sarah unpacks the science of parts work, how trauma shapes our adult behaviors, and what it actually looks like to feel safe in your body—not just in theory, but in daily life. We talk about: Why high-achievers often feel most unsafe in stillness How perfectionism can be a survival strategy What your nervous system really wants from a partner How to rewire your attraction patterns through somatic healing What it means to build a relationship with your inner parts If you've ever felt like you're doing “all the right things” but still stuck in the same cycles—this episode is for you. Sponsored By: → CURED | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off ON TOP OF the 10% off Best Seller Bundle. Just head to https://www.curednutrition.com/CLAUDIA and use the code CLAUDIA at checkout → PUORI | Shop Puori grass-fed protein powder + supplements (Clean Label Certified and third-party tested!!!) Use discount code: HEALINGTHESOURCE Follow Sarah on Instagram and check out her amazing podcast: You Make Sense Sarah's Website Follow the host, Claudia, on Instagram, check out HealingTheSource.co & Elham's Liquid Gold 100% Organic Castor Oil, and enjoy her deep-dives on Substack

In this conversation, Nina Caviggiola and Dr. Danica Harris delve into the complexities of trauma, particularly focusing on the concept of complex trauma. They discuss the differences between big T's and little t's, the impact of childhood experiences on emotional development, and the importance of repair in parent-child relationships. Dr. Harris explains how trauma can be trapped in the body and offers insights into recognizing and releasing tension. They also explore the connection between trauma and gut health, the ongoing nature of healing, and the significance of self-compassion in the journey. The conversation concludes with empowering advice for parents on how to navigate their own healing while supporting their children. 00:00 Understanding Trauma: Big T's and Little t's 02:55 Defining Complex Trauma 06:12 The Impact of Childhood Experiences 09:00 Repairing Relationships and Emotional Responses 11:57 Trauma Trapped in the Body 14:55 Recognizing and Releasing Tension 17:57 The Connection Between Trauma and Gut Health 23:54The Importance of Self-Compassion 26:55 Parenting and Trauma Awareness Dr. Danica Harris is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and complex trauma expert, working internationally as a coach, facilitator, presenter, and educator. Trained as a Counseling Psychologist, Danica prioritizes helping folks heal so they can live more embodied and empowered lives. Danica is the Co-Owner and Executive Director of Empowered Healing Dallas, a group therapy practice where her team provides trauma-informed therapy, using somatic and relational approaches when working with clients. Danica is also passionate about support for therapists and healers and provides mentorship and consultation to providers looking to increase their trauma-informed knowledge and business practices. She considers herself a co-journeyer, and hosts healing focused retreats and intensives for fellow complex trauma survivors. You can find Danica on her Instagram platform, @theempoweredtherapist where she provides education and support to the broader community. IG: @theempoweredtherapist www.theempoweredtherapist.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This encore episode features Britt Frank, therapist and author of The Science of Stuck, and we're unpacking what it actually means to feel stuck and how to finally move through it. Britt has a gift for cutting through the shame we carry about our behaviors.  Whether it's procrastination, burnout, people-pleasing, or codependency, she breaks down the brain-body connection behind it all and reminds us that you can't logic your way out of an emotional process. If you've ever felt frozen, overwhelmed, or trapped in your own patterns, this conversation is a lifeline. What you'll hear about in this episode: How to define the ‘first step' to help you figure out your plan for getting unstuck Britt explains why we can't think ourselves forward  We explore the steps to help you get unstuck including: Validating what's happening and determining the resources available to help right now  Why Britt says to stay away from positive and negative thinking and instead focus on accurate thinking  Self-mothering is one the most powerful ways of breaking trauma bonds Learn more about Britt Frank: Britt Frank, MSW, LSCSW, SEP is a clinician, educator, and trauma specialist. She speaks and writes widely about the mental health myths that keep us stuck and stressed. Britt received her BA from Duke University and her MSW from the University of Kansas, where she later became an award-winning adjunct professor. She is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and Level 3 trained in the Internal Family Systems therapeutic model. Britt was a primary therapist at a drug and alcohol treatment center, an inpatient therapist at a children's psychiatric hospital, and now owns a private practice. You can find Britt on Instagram @brittfrank or on her website www.scienceofstuck.com. Her debut book The Science of Stuck was released 3-22-22 by Penguin Random House. Resources & Links: Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource BundlePhoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment CollectiveKate on Instagram @kateanthony_divorcecoachKate on FacebookThe D Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage Britt's website Britt on Instagram Britt's book Mother Hunger, Kelly McDaniel =================== DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM. Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/encore-episode-the-science-of-stuck-with-britt-frank/    

In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon Bolliger, FCAH, RBHT (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) speaks to Kathy Allan, a registered nurse and holistic practitioner, discussed her journey from nursing since 1964 to developing the "Gutsy Nurses" program. She highlighted the shift from compassionate care to a profit-driven healthcare system, exacerbated by private equity firms. Allan emphasized the need for nurses to recognize and manage trauma, regain authenticity, and advocate for their patients. She criticized the current system's focus on financial gain over patient care, citing examples of unethical practices and the impact of for-profit motives. Allan also discussed the importance of prevention and healthy living to reduce hospital visits For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/kathy-allan           Highlights from today's episode include: Kathy Allan shares her love for nursing, starting in 1964, and her diverse experience in various nursing departments, including the operating room, emergency room, intensive care, labor and delivery, pediatrics, and psychiatric nursing. Kathy discusses the importance of nurses being able to support their patients effectively, having gone through their own healing journey. Manon Bolliger and Kathy discuss the need for an alternative healthcare model focused on health and prevention, rather than the current profit-driven system.   ABOUT KATHY ALLAN: I am a Registered Nurse, a Board Certified Holistic Nurse, a retired Healing Touch & energy medicine Instructor and a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. I continue to serve as an assistant in the Somatic Experiencing trauma education program for psychotherapists. I have completed the three year Energy Medicine Training from Rosalyn Bruyere. I taught Integrative Imagery to nurses and I have studied shamanism. I am a member of the Screen Actors Guild/American Federation of Television and Radio Actors and I also do Stand-Up Comedy. Core purpose/passion:  Nurses work in chaos, don't have much time with their patients and both nurses and patients can be traumatized in the present healthcare system. So, I founded Gutsy Nurses, an education program designed to help nurses and other healthcare providers who are being exploited and burned out by the for-profit healthcare system. My new book Gutsy Nurses Save Lives; will be coming out at the end of this year. Website | YouTube |     ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, FCAH, RBHT  As a de-registered (2021) board-certified naturopathic physician & in practice since 1992, I've seen an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.  My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books:  'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'.  I also teach BowenFirst™ Therapy through and hold transformational workshops to achieve these goals. So, when I share with you that LISTENING to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience". Manon's Mission: A Healer in Every Household!  For more great information to go to her weekly blog:  http://bowencollege.com/blog.    For tips on health & healing go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/tips    Follow Manon on Social – Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Twitter | Linktr.ee | Rumble     ABOUT THE HEALERS CAFÉ:  Manon's show is the #1 show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives.  Subscribe and review on your favourite platform: iTunes | Google Play | Spotify | Libsyn | iHeartRadio | Gaana | The Healers Cafe | Radio.com | Medioq |   Follow The Healers Café on FB: https://www.facebook.com/thehealerscafe   Remember to subscribe if you like our videos. Click the bell if you want to be one of the first people notified of a new release.   * De-Registered, revoked & retired naturopathic physician after 30 years of practice in healthcare. Now resourceful & resolved to share with you all the tools to take care of your health & vitality!

Is your nervous system keeping you stuck in old patterns and narratives? Josh Trent welcomes Sarah Baldwin, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 763, to reveal how we “time travel” through our autonomic nervous system, reacting to past experiences instead of living in the present, and how we can regulate our nervous system, heal generational wounds, and create deep, authentic connection by loving our parts into wholeness.

This month, the focus of the podcast involves the co-occurring issues of porn use or sexual addiction commonality in the autism community. We begin today with porn use and addiction 101, to include:Why are autistic people vulnerable?When does the behavior cross into addiction?We will end with building a healthy and intimate neurodiverse Christian marriage.Today's guest, Dr. Janice Caudill, starts this month's discussion. Dr. Janice Caudill Janice is a Texas psychologist, also licensed through PSYPACT for tele-therapy in most states. She is the co-author of his and hers companion workbooks for helping couples navigate a therapeutic disclosure of sexual betrayal: Full Disclosure: Seeking Truth After Sexual Betrayal – 3 Volume Series Full Disclosure: Sharing the Truth After Sexual Betrayal She is the founder of Intensive Recovery Healing and Intensive Recovery Coaching, programs that specialize in customized intensives, therapy, and workshops for individuals and couples recovering from sex or pornography addiction, betrayal trauma, intimacy anorexia, or other life traumas. Janice is a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and supervisor, Certified Clinical Partner Specialist and supervisor, Certified Partner Trauma Therapist and supervisor, Certified Partner Betrayal Trauma Therapist, certified Intimacy Anorexia Therapist, and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. She was one of the founding members of the Association for Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists and participated in the creation of the Multidimensional Partner Trauma Model. Contact for sexual addiction assessments: https://intensivehope.com/pages/about/people/janice-caudill.html

When you learn to anchor into your own worth, the world no longer gets to decide how you feel about yourself. Beatriz Victoria Albina brings powerful insight and clarity to the conversation on nervous system regulation, emotional outsourcing, and the lifelong practice of coming home to yourself. With equal parts warmth and wisdom, she shares how healing begins when we stop chasing external validation and start reconnecting to the safety, belonging, and worth that already live within us. This conversation is a gentle call to shift from survival mode to self-anchored living—where authenticity and inner peace can finally take root. Key Takeaways: Emotional outsourcing happens when you rely on others to define your safety, worth, or sense of belonging. Nervous system dysregulation can show up as anxiety, over-functioning, or emotional numbness—and it's more common than you think. Healing doesn't mean eliminating big emotions; it means learning how to feel them without abandoning yourself. Anchoring into your truth requires self-awareness, self-regulation, and a commitment to coming back to center—again and again. Regulation is a daily practice, not a quick fix—and community, nature, and breath are powerful allies in that process. About Beatriz Victoria Albina: Beatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, author of the forthcoming "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits" (expected Sept 30, Hachette Balance) and Breathwork Meditation Guide with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy. She is the host of the Feminist Wellness Podcast, holds a Masters degree in Public Health from Boston University School of Public Health and a BA in Latin American Studies from Oberlin College. Born in Mar del Plata, Argentina, Béa grew up in the great state of Rhode Island. She has been working in health & wellness for over 20 years and lives with her wife, Billey Albina.   Connect with Dr. Michelle and Bayleigh at: https://smallchangesbigshifts.com hello@smallchangesbigshifts.com https://www.linkedin.com/company/smallchangesbigshifts https://www.facebook.com/SmallChangesBigShifts https://www.instagram.com/smallchangesbigshiftsco   Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.  

Deanna Lyons is a Somatic Stress Relief Coach who specializes in helping clients cultivate resilience in the midst of stressful and sometimes traumatic lives. She serves brilliant, whole-hearted people who are deeply committed to showing up for everyone else—but who themselves face chronic issues that run the gamut of emotional and physical pain.These champions of others are dedicated to supporting family members, friends, and colleagues. At the same time they're overwhelmed, living on the edge, and fed up with conflicting advice from outside sources. The irony is they have yet to find someone who can support them as they have long done for others. Deanna helps clients connect with their bodies, tune into their innate wisdom, and live life from a place of more calm, comfort, and confidence. Deanna has found both in her personal and professional work that it's critical and most efficient to explore the mind and body together. She utilizes and teaches techniques that focus on both to provide the best results.  Deanna has earned certifications: EFT Tapping Trainer and Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, NLP (Neurolinguistic Programming), Matrix Reimprinting and Matrix Birth Reimprinting, Hypnosis and more. https://deannalyons.com/EFT Info Sheets https://bit.ly/EFTINFOhttps://www.facebook.com/deannalyons.efthttps://www.instagram.com/deanna_lyons.eft/https://www.youtube.com/@deannalyons_eft________________________________________________________________________________________Come check out the Buff Muff Communitywww.buffmuff.comThank you so much for listening! I use fitness and movement to help women prevent and overcome pelvic floor challenges like incontinence and organ prolapse. There is help for women in all life stages! Every Woman Needs A Vagina Coach! Please make sure to LEAVE A REVIEW and SUBSCRIBE to the show for the best fitness and wellness advice south of your belly button. *******************I recommend checking out my comprehensive pelvic health education and fitness programs on my Buff Muff AppYou can also join my next 28 Day Buff Muff Challenge https://www.vaginacoach.com/buffmuffIf you are feeling social you can connect with me… On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/VagCoachOn Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vaginacoach/On Twitter https://twitter.com/VaginaCoachOn The Web www.vaginacoach.comGet your Feel Amazing Vaginal Moisturizer Here

In this episode, Lindsey sits down with Brittany Piper—internationally renowned speaker, author, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and expert in sexual violence prevention + trauma-informed care—to discover what it means to heal your nervous system + feel truly safe in your body.  Ahead, Brittany opens up about her remarkable healing journey—one that spans trauma, motherhood, and the incredible science of somatic therapy. She drops shocking insights on generational patterns, the dangers of striving for perfection, and the shadow side of success. With practical somatic tools + major reframes on what we've heard about trauma, this episode is a must-listen for any woman doubting whether she can overcome her past. Brittany assures us that deep healing, softness, and joy are totally possible, no matter what happened to you.  We also talk about: -How motherhood can reveal hidden trauma -The difference between acute, chronic, and complex trauma -Building emotional resilience in both yourself + your kids -The power of somatic practices + why they work -Why generational patterns keep us feeling disconnected -Healing from sexual assault + navigating the justice system -The science behind “good enough” parenting -How your nervous system keeps you stuck in survival mode -Debunking myths around “Big T/Little T” trauma  Resources -Website: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/ -Book: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/the-book -Program: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/program -Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithbritt/ -TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@healwithbritt -Get our book, Almost 30: A Definitive Guide To A Life You Love For The Next Decade and Beyond, here: http://bit.ly/Almost30Book.  Sponsors: AX3 | AX3 has generously offered a 20% discount on your first order when you visit AX3.life and use promo code ALMOST30 at checkout. Primally Pure | Use code “ALMOST30” to get 15% off your Primally Pure purchase.  Evlo Fitness | You can try Evlo FREE for 6 weeks - use code ALMOST30TRIAL at evlofitness.com. IQ Bar | Get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. Just text ALMOST to 64000 to get your discount. Ka'Chava | Go to https://kachava.com and use code ALMOST30 for 15% off your next order. Quince | Go to Quince.com/ALMOST30 for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  To advertise on this podcast please email: partnerships@almost30.com. Learn More: -https://almost30.com/about -almost30.com/morningmicrodose -https://almost30.com/book Join our community: -facebook.com/Almost30podcast/groups -instagram.com/almost30podcast -tiktok.com/@almost30podcast -youtube.com/Almost30Podcast Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: almost30.com/disclaimer.  Find more to love at almost30.com! Almost 30 is edited by Garett Symes and Isabella Vaccaro.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was a pleasure to be Conversation today with Jussi PellonpääJussi is a certified Rolfer, physiotherapist, massage therapist and a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner who specializes in looking at how the person's deeply rooted “attitudes” manifest in all levels of body (-mind) functioning. And in using that understanding to guide interventions aimed at improving the client's goals with the most precision possible.In today's conversation, we explored how Jussi's path bridges Rolfing®, physiotherapy, and Somatic Experiencing® into a deeply embodied, process-oriented approach to healing. We discussed the pacing of structural integration, the difference between neurophysiological and biological adaptation, and how true change often requires time, space, and surrender. Jussi reflected on the interplay between posture, safety, and pre-movement—the subtle ground where psychological and physiological patterns converge. Together, we examined the challenges of working with high-performing yet dysregulated clients, the ethics of force in bodywork, and the importance of practitioner clarity. Jussi's work invites us to honor transformation not as something to impose, but as something to meet—slowly, relationally, and with deep respect for the body's timing.You can find and contact him at, http://www.rolfing-helsinki.fi .If you are enjoying and getting something out of these talks, we'd appreciate it if you would leave a positive review of the podcast and subscribe to it through the platform of your choice. When you do this it really helps other people find us, and we greatly appreciate your support.You can find more about Andrew at http://andrewrosenstock.com and http://RolfingInBoston.comMany thanks to Explorers Society for use of their song " All In" from their majestic album 'Spheres' Please check them out here https://open.spotify.com/album/1plT1lAPWEQ1oTRbWOiXm3?si=eAL08OJdT5-sJ6FwwZD50g

Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault, suicidal ideation, and eating disorders. Listener discretion is advised.In this deeply impactful episode, I sit down with the incredible Brittany Piper—international speaker, author, somatic experiencing practitioner, and founder of the Body First Healing program. Brittany shares her powerful story of overcoming trauma and explains how misdiagnoses like ADHD can sometimes mask deeper trauma responses.We dive into the science of the nervous system, the power of somatic healing, and how trauma lives in the body long after the mind thinks it's moved on. Brittany shares how her journey led her from survival to recovery, and how she now helps others understand their body's language to reclaim safety, connection, and joy. If you or someone you love struggles with trauma, anxiety, ADHD, or PTSD, this episode offers real hope, powerful insight, and practical tools for healing. Episode Highlights:[0:49] Meet Brittany Piper and a glimpse into her work and background in trauma-informed care.[3:05] Brittany opens up about her early life and how trauma impacted her mental health.[5:56] Grinning and bearing it: how unresolved trauma showed up as ADHD, anxiety, and depression.[8:41] The exhausting toll of a two-year trial process and its re-traumatizing effects.[12:08] Rock bottom: the jail cell moment that sparked Brittany's healing journey.[13:49] Introduction to somatic experiencing and how Brittany began healing her nervous system.[17:47] Why talk therapy alone wasn't enough—and how polyvagal theory changed everything.[22:10] Understanding nervous system responses and how to rewire for safety.[24:20] Trigger vs. activation: decoding what your body is really telling you.[28:56] How repeated exposure through the body can neutralize trauma responses.[31:49] Real-time somatic work: what healing looks like on a body level.[35:15] How somatic IFS and nervous system awareness help you lead from your most regulated self.[42:53] Why trauma recovery requires slowing down and building foundational safety.[44:47] The truth about regulation: it's not about "fixing" yourself—it's about changing how you relate to your emotions. Guest Bio:Brittany Piper is a Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, author, and international speaker specializing in trauma-informed care and nervous system healing. She is the founder of the Body First Healing program and author of Body-First Healing: A Revolutionary Guide to Nervous System Recovery. Links & Resources:Learn more about Brittany's work: bodyfirsthealing.comFollow Brittany on Instagram: @healwithbritThank you for tuning into "SuccessFULL with ADHD." If this episode has impacted you, remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us reach and help more individuals navigating their journeys with ADHD.Want to be ‘SuccessFULL with ADHD' by Activating Your ADHD Potential?Order our 3x best-selling book/workbook for adults with ADHD ▶️ http://bit.ly/activateadhd

Do you have mysterious fatigue or physical symptoms? In this episode, I talk with Audrey Burke, LMBT, SEP about the somatic impact of stress and trauma as well as:  • Connections between early life trauma, emotional dysregulation, and high sensitivity • The different types of trauma present from birth through adulthood • The long-term impact of adverse babyhood and childhood experiences  • How to increase resilience and begin healing through safe relationships   Audrey is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, massage therapist and Transforming Touch practitioner based in Durham, North Carolina. As a highly sensitive person herself, she discovered somatic work through her own healing journey and found that somatic support was the missing piece in her path to mysterious health symptoms and feeling at home in her body. Now, she helps other highly sensitive people heal from shock trauma, developmental trauma, chronic stress, and nervous system dysregulation, supporting them in feeling safer in themselves and the world.  Keep in touch with Audrey:• Website: http://www.restorativepresence.com  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somaticswithaudrey  • Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@somaticswithaudrey  Resources Mentioned: • Somatic Healing Guide: https://www.restorativepresence.com  • Book a Session with Audrey: https://calendly.com/restorativepresence-1/  • Find a Local Touch Practitioner: https://coregulatingtouch.com  Thanks for listening! You can read the full show notes and sign up for my email list to get new episode announcements and other resources at: https://www.sensitivestories.comYou can also follow "SensitiveStrengths" for behind-the-scenes content plus more educational and inspirational HSP resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sensitivestrengths TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sensitivestrengths Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sensitivestrengths And for more support, attend a Sensitive Sessions monthly workshop: https://www.sensitivesessions.com. Use code PODCAST for 25% off. If you have a moment, please rate and review the podcast, it helps Sensitive Stories reach more HSPs! This episode is for educational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment with a mental health or medical professional. Some links are affiliate links. You are under no obligation to purchase any book, product or service. I am not responsible for the quality or satisfaction of any purchase.

What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I'm joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence. Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who's awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them. Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest. _____________________________ We Explore:

Why is it so hard to feel safe even when you're no longer in danger? In this episode of Moonbeaming, Sarah Faith Gottesdiener speaks with somatic healer Ifé Mora about the Nine of Wands archetype and what it means to live in a body that's been shaped by stress, trauma, and survival. They explore:The biology of burnoutThe impact of chronic stress on the nevous systemHow to heal through presence, education, and somatic practiceAnd powerful tools for regulating the nervous system.This is an episode for anyone feeling worn out, stuck in survival mode, or ready to rebuild.More on our guest:Ifé Mora is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Spiritual Buddhist teacher, and trauma-informed educator, as well as the founder of One Soma LLC, a healing organization focused on trauma education and social justice. She specializes in helping individuals resolve trauma, regulate their nervous systems, and build resilience through embodied, mind-body-spirit practices. Her work draws on Somatic Experiencing and neurobiological tools to foster deep healing and holistic well-being. Rooted in spiritual traditions, Ifé integrates personal development with trauma healing to support lasting transformation. She believes that trauma-informed education can help create a more just and compassionate society. Her mission is to help people reconnect with their authentic selves and unlock the body's natural ability to heal.Connect with Ifé:WebsiteInstagram--- Moon Studio workshop reminder:June 29th: The Constellation of the 9's: The Hermit, The Moon, & the 9's---Join the Moon Studio community:Join the Moon Studio Patreon.Buy the 2025 Many Moons Lunar Planner.Subscribe to our newsletter.Find Sarah on Instagram.

What does it really mean to “listen to your body”? In this episode, I talk with Beatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, and Master Certified Somatic Life Coach. We explore the world of somatics - the study and practice of embodied awareness. Béa unpacks what somatics truly means, how our nervous systems hold onto old patterns, and why building a sense of safety in the body is essential for real change. We discuss practical tools for grounding, regulating emotions, and cultivating agency in the face of everyday stressors. Get more information and full show notes here: https://jackiedecrinis.com/somatics-bea-albina/

There's a lot of questionable healing advice online — much of it unqualified, ungrounded, and not backed by true psychological or expertise. Today, I'm joined by the most qualified psychotherapist I've ever met. Once a Prima Ballerina, then Miss Canada, and now a Chartered Psychologist (BPS) and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner — among many other things — Ailey Jolie joins us to unpack why so many women are out here striving, achieving, chasing perfection, and building dream lives… all while leaving their internal world in quiet chaos. Ailey breaks down the subtle, sneaky ways women perform and present — especially in dating, career, and sexuality — and why recognising these patterns is essential to rewriting your story and actually beginning to heal. We talk about the difference between being busy and being dangerously disembodied and disconnected, and explore the often misunderstood concept of truly feeling emotions. Ailey also challenges the obsession with “release” culture. We explore somatic traps, spiritual bypassing, ayahuasca highs — and why real healing doesn't come from fireworks, but from slow, grounded integration. This is one for the real healing girls.  ✨ READY TO START YOUR SOMATIC HEALING JOURNEY? ✨  → Free 7 day trial of Daily Devotion (Daily Rituals): HERE

Eight years ago, I landed myself in the office of a nurse practitioner/functional medicine specialist who specialized in gut health. I had been inexplicably bloated and exhausted for months and didn't know why. Little did I know that woman would go on to not only remedy my body, but change the overall trajectory of my life and career.Flash forward to today, while she's still an expert when it comes to our bodies, our nervous systems, and how the two speak to one another, her work is primarily focused on helping folks rid themselves of codependent, people-pleasing tendencies. And candidly, all the physical issues I suffered from back in 2017 were really just a manifestation of mental and emotional turmoil. Namely, living a life that was more based on external approval than internal fulfillment.She brings a really fresh perspective to codependency, and what she refers to as "emotional outsourcing."Beatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, author of the forthcoming "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits" (expected Sept 30, Hachette Balance) and Breathwork Meditation Guide with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy.Work with me PrivatelyConnect on InstagramWebsitePodcast Production by James Jorge

We are so glad to welcome back Brittany Piper – speaker, author, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, and educator in sexual violence prevention and trauma recovery. In this episode, she is sharing her expertise of somatic healing, which starts with the body and can be life-changing for anyone with trauma, anxiety, and/or chronic stress, especially if traditional talk therapy isn't working. We discuss the science of the nervous system, learning the language of your body and how to regulate your stress responses, how to de-escalate your anxiety, and what a “trigger” actually is. We also discuss trauma and anxiety in relationships – talking to your partner about your needs, how you can be a helpful partner to someone who is struggling, co-regulating, and using a tool called “parts work” in a conflict. Before Brittany joins us, we're discussing wild AI text summaries, and unpacking a listener dilemma about a situationship with a colleague. Hope you enjoy!  Follow Brittany on Instagram @healwithbritt and get her book Body First Healing. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Simply Pop: Go to https://cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try Simply Pop.  Bilt: Get points by paying rent at https://joinbilt.com/GGE. Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box and free item in every box for life at https://hungryroot.com/GGE with code GGE.

What if the key to healing your patterns, pain, and even chronic symptoms isn't in your mind — but in your nervous system? In part 2 of this powerful conversation, I welcome back Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and Trauma Expert Sarah Baldwin to dive even deeper into the unseen architecture behind our behaviors, relationships, and health.   We pick up where we left off — exploring the six nervous system states — and take a closer look at the three core states of regulation. Sarah shares how patterns like avoidance and overachievement are often misunderstood protector parts, and how chronic dysregulation can silently drive emotional, physical, and relational suffering.   This episode also takes us into the transformative world of parts work — a method of identifying and tending to the younger, vulnerable parts of ourselves that carry unresolved pain, and the protective parts that step in to keep us safe. Sarah explains how healing happens when we step into our adult self and become the loving, attuned protector those parts have always needed.   We explore the building blocks of real intimacy, how to gently reconnect with your inner child, why endings can be sacred gifts, and why nervous system regulation may be the most powerful medicine of all.   From breathwork and stillness to play and embodiment, Sarah offers practical tools to support daily regulation and rewiring your nervous system. We also touch on the power of reparenting our younger parts and cultivating the adult self that allows for deep healing, connection, and lasting change.   If you've ever wondered why healing hasn't "stuck," why certain patterns keep repeating, or why even LOVE can feel unsafe — this episode is for you.   LINKS Sarah Baldwin's Website: https://www.sarahbaldwincoaching.com/ Sarah Baldwin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahbcoaching/ SPONSORS HONEYLOVE: Go to https://www.honeylove.com/HEAL and use our exclusive link to get 20% OFF.  Connect with Kelly: ·     Watch all episodes on YouTube ·     Sign up for HEAL with Kelly newsletter ·     Follow Kelly on Instagram ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Instagram ·     HEAL with Kelly on TikTok ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Facebook ·     Visit HEAL with Kelly Website ·     Watch the HEAL Documentary ·     Get the HEAL Book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A powerful, must-listen exploration of how our nervous systems shapes every aspect of our lives. Whether you struggle with anxiety, negative relationship patterns, or feel stuck in survival mode, this extraordinary episode will equip you with the profound wisdom and tools to get back in the driver's seat of your life, heal past trauma, and experience the life of your dreams.   Are you truly in control of your life, or are you in the back seat while your nervous system drives the car? In this eye-opening episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with Sarah Baldwin, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and trauma resolution expert, to explore how our nervous system unconsciously shapes our thoughts, emotions, and behaviors. We uncover how past experiences create invisible walls that keep us from the love, success, and fulfillment we crave — and why true healing isn't just about processing the past, but about expanding our capacity to receive the good in life.   Sarah unpacks the science of attachment, breaking down how anxious, avoidant, and disorganized patterns shape relationships and why we unconsciously repeat familiar dynamics. She reveals how our nervous system — not our conscious mind — drives our choices, influencing everything from love to career. We also explore why success, love, and abundance can feel overwhelming, how to release stored trauma, and why words alone aren't enough for lasting healing.   Most importantly, Sarah shares how practical, science-backed somatic exercises can help regulate the nervous system, rewire stress patterns, and expand our capacity for joy, connection, and fulfillment. This episode will make you feel seen. Tune in now to learn how to break free from survival mode, regulate your nervous system, and step into a life of greater peace, joy, and possibility! LINKS Sarah Baldwin's Website: https://www.sarahbaldwincoaching.com/ Sarah Baldwin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahbcoaching/ Connect with Kelly: ·     Watch all episodes on YouTube ·     Sign up for HEAL with Kelly newsletter ·     Follow Kelly on Instagram ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Instagram ·     HEAL with Kelly on TikTok ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Facebook ·     Visit HEAL with Kelly Website ·     Watch the HEAL Documentary ·     Get the HEAL Book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textHOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is completely self-funded, produced, and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Consider making a small donation to support the Podcast: bit.ly/SupportGTPodcast. Thank you! For more information, please visit Nathalie's website, join the podcast's Instagram page, and subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.About this week's episodeWelcome to today's episode of How to Deal with Grief and Trauma. I'm thrilled to be joined by Brittany Piper, a fellow practitioner in somatic healing. Britt and I share a deep commitment to body-based trauma recovery, both being trained in Somatic Experiencing® and Polyvagal Theory – no surprise given we both share a dedication to nervous system regulation and somatic healing. I'm sure that this will create a rich foundation for today's discussion. Together, we'll first hear Britt's personal story and how she became who she is today. Then together we explore how the body holds and processes trauma, the role of polyvagal theory in grief and healing, and practical ways to reconnect with safety and resilience after loss and trauma.  About this week's guestBrittany Piper is an internationally renowned speaker, author, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and expert in sexual violence prevention and trauma-informed care. Over the past 13 years, she has delivered more than 400 programs across three continents. Her work has been recognized by the U.S. Army, the Department of Justice, the Laura Bush Institute for Women's Health, Cosmopolitan, Elite Daily, and others. As a rape survivor and leading advocate on sexual violence prevention, Brittany speaks to tens of thousands each year. She is also a forensic neurobiology expert, conducting trauma-informed trainings with the U.S. Army and Sex Crimes Detectives. Creator of @healwithbritt and founder of the internationally acclaimed Body-First Healing Program, Brittany continues to inspire and lead in the field of trauma recovery.Website: www.bodyfirsthealing.comIG: @healwithbrittTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@healwithbritt Support the showFind support: Transforming Your Grief Course Support the show: Become a supporter of the show! Starting at $3/month Join Facebook Group - Grief and Trauma Support Network Download the FREE grief resource eBook Book a Discovery Call Leave a review Follow on socials: Instagram Facebook Website

Brittany Piper is an internationally renowned speaker, author, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and expert in sexual violence prevention and trauma-informed care. Over the past 13 years, she has delivered more than 400 programs across three continents. Her work has been recognized by the U.S. Army, the Department of Justice, the Laura Bush Institute for Women's Health, Cosmopolitan, Elite Daily, and others. As a rape survivor and leading advocate on sexual violence prevention, Brittany speaks to tens of thousands each year. She is also a forensic neurobiology expert, conducting trauma-informed trainings with the U.S. Army and Sex Crimes Detectives. Creator of @healwithbritt and founder of the internationally acclaimed Body-First Healing Program, Brittany continues to inspire and lead in the field of trauma recovery. In her transformative new book, Body-First Healing: A Revolutionary Guide to Nervous System Recovery (launching March 25, 2025), Brittany shares her compassionate, science-backed roadmap for trauma recovery and nervous system regulation. She teaches readers how to break free from survival mode and reclaim their lives using simple yet effective somatic practices.In this episode, we discuss:Brittany's story Healing from sexual violenceAttachment TraumaPolyvagal TheorySomatic ExperiencingWhy the goal is not to have a “calm” nervous systemThe Five Stuck StatesInternal Family Systems / Parts WorkAddiction RecoveryTools for HealingLinks to connect with Brittany and learn more about her work:Website: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/Book: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/the-bookProgram: https://www.bodyfirsthealing.com/programInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithbritt/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@healwithbritt__SUN & MOON SOBER LIVINGLearn more about our upcoming Women's Hiking Retreat in Moab, Utah: https://sunandmoonsoberliving.com/moab-retreat/Access a free mindfulness meditation to help manage cravings and regulate emotions: https://pages.sunandmoonsoberliving.com/easemeditationFollow along on Instagram: @sunandmoon.soberliving __Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

Healing from trauma isn't just about talking through our past—it's about reconnecting with our bodies. In this powerful episode of Gather in Growth, I sit down with Brittany Piper, internationally recognized speaker, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and author of Body-First Healing: Get Unstuck and Recover from Trauma with Somatic Healing. Britt's work is transforming the way we understand trauma recovery, shifting the focus from revisiting painful memories to healing through the nervous system.If you've ever felt stuck in your healing journey, experienced chronic stress, anxiety, or trauma-related symptoms, or wondered why traditional talk therapy hasn't worked for you, this episode is for you. We dive into the science behind somatic healing, why trauma is stored in the body rather than the mind, and how you can release stored survival energy to regulate your nervous system.As someone who has been deeply inspired by Britt's work, I couldn't be more excited to share this conversation with you. Whether you're on your own healing journey, supporting a loved one, or looking for somatic tools for trauma recovery, you'll walk away with deep insights and tangible takeaways that can change the way you approach healing.In This Episode, We Cover:Why talk therapy isn't always enough for trauma recovery – and how somatic healing takes a different approachThe science behind somatic experiencing and nervous system regulation – how trauma lives in the body, not just in the mindWhy trauma keeps us stuck in survival mode – and how to begin releasing stored survival energyThe difference between top-down (cognitive) healing and bottom-up (body-based) healingSomatic tools for trauma healing – including shaking, movement, breathwork, and sensory awarenessUnderstanding the vagus nerve and nervous system regulation – how 80% of signals travel from the body to the brain, not the other way aroundHow trauma affects relationships and emotional triggers – and why somatic healing is key to breaking intergenerational cyclesHow to discharge stress hormones and complete the body's trauma responseBe sure to hit subscribe so you never miss the latest episode!Connect with Britt:Grab Britt's Book: Body-First Healing: Get Unstuck and Recover from Trauma with Somatic HealingWork with Britt: The Body-First Healing ProgramFollow Britt on Instagram: @healwithbritt |@bodyfirsthealingConnect with Emily:Follow on Instagram and FacebookJoin my email listCheck out my websiteConnect with me on LinkedInVisit my website for more resources, coaching, and podcast episodes:

Birth is one of the most transformative experiences in a person's life, but when things don't go as planned - something traumatic or simply not what you thought would happen - the emotional impact can linger. Chanti Smith is a licensed professional midwife and a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. In this episode she talks about healing from birth trauma and reclaiming joy. Listen to learn how somatic experiencing helps release stored trauma, reconnect with the body, and create a new sense of empowerment. This conversation is an important reminder that healing is possible, and you don't have to navigate it alone.Full show notes: fourthtrimesterpodcast.comConnect with Chanti Smith embodiedbeginnings.com | Book A Session | WorkshopsLearn more Somatic Experiencing Can Build Attachment Between Parent And Child | Reproductive Psychiatry: Optimizing Your Mental Health with Dr Ida Eden | Preparing to Enjoy the Fourth TrimesterResources Mindfulness Childbirth and Parenting Courses | Somatic Experiencing | Snack Trays | castellinotraining.comConnect with Fourth Trimester Facebook | InstagramAdditional ResourcesHelloGaia Parenting CopilotFREE DOWNLOAD Customizable Birth PlanFREE DOWNLOAD Customizable Fourth Trimester PlanFREE DOWNLOAD Birth Team Overview – Who's Who At The Hospital

Stefanie Klein is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and NARM (NeuroAffective Relational Model) Master Therapist. She is the Assistant Training Director and Faculty for the Complex Trauma Training Center, and is very passionate about the need for helping professionals to be trauma informed and for mental health providers to be trained in effective approaches for working with Complex Trauma. Stefanie has found NARM to be a game changing approach to working with Developmental and Complex Trauma and has devoted the last decade of her career to mentoring and training psychotherapists in the model. That journey has led to her leadership role in the new Complex Trauma Training Center, a professional home for psychotherapists working with Complex Trauma to receive training and mentorship while building community. In This EpisodeComplex Trauma Training Center---If you'd like to support The Trauma Therapist Podcast and the work I do you can do that here with a monthly donation of $5, $7, or $10: Donate to The Trauma Therapist Podcast. Click here to join my email list and receive podcast updates and other news.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

In this podcast we welcome Stefanie Klein, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, NARM Master Therapist, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and Consultant based in Los Angeles who shares a refreshing take on shame through the lens of the Neuro-Affective Relational Model (NARM). You will learn about shame as a verb rather than an emotion and how it functions as an adaptive process. Because shame is universal to all human beings, it can be part of a reparative and valuable key to long-term recovery.   Music credit: Neil Freebern Freebernmusic.com

Beatriz Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, author of the forthcoming "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits" (expected Sept 25, Hachette Balance) and Breathwork Meditation Guide with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy.She is the host of the Feminist Wellness Podcast, holds a Masters degree in Public Health from Boston University School of Public Health and a BA in Latin American Studies from Oberlin College. Born in Mar del Plata, Argentina, Béa (Bay-ah) grew up in the great state of Rhode Island. She has been working in health & wellness for over 20 years and lives with her wife, Billey Albina, on Occupied Munsee Lenape territory, also known as New York.You can connect with Bea here on Instagram HERE or check out her website HERE. And be sure to listen to her podcast, Feminine Wellness, which you can follow right HERE. Be sure to grab the free meditations on codependency and perfectionism, a generous gift from Bea, here is the link for that. 

In today's conversation, we dive deep into the profound connection between somatic healing, nervous system regulation, and personal transformation. Sarah Baldwin shares her expertise on how true healing requires more than cognitive understanding, emphasizing the importance of reconnecting with the body. We also explore the importance of co-regulation in breaking ancestral patterns and creating deeper intimacy in relationships.IN THIS EPISODE, WE TALK ABOUT:

In this episode, I chat with Rachel Broom, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, about the transformative power of body-based healing. We explore the role of somatic awareness, nervous system regulation, and psychedelic integration in the journey of self-discovery and healing. Rachel also guides us through a simple yet powerful body awareness practice to help you ground, regulate, and reconnect with yourself. 00:00 Introduction to the Vital Point Podcast 08:58 Guided Somatic Practice with Rachel 17:33 The Importance of Integration and Titration 25:44 The Role of Curiosity in Healing 42:12 Navigating Intensity and Finding Balance 48:18 Exploring Likes and Dislikes 57:02 The Gifts of Trauma 01:04:03 The Importance of Community and Support 01:13:29 Honoring Our Capacity and Natural Rhythms 01:20:07 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information

Kristy is a mama, Somatic Coach and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner in training who believes in the body's innate ability to heal and brings the power of connection and co-regulation into her work with clients. Healing and resolution doesn't happen just through talking about our stress and challenges, but when we can access more safety and learn to be present with our bodies and the stories they have to tell. Kristy's unique approach to somatics is a culmination of her own lived experiences, her training and education in psychology, yoga, mindfulness, holistic healing and Somatic Experiencing, as well as her own continued healing and trauma resolution journey. KRISTY'S SPECIALTIES AND INTERESTS- anxiety and overwhelm- anger and shame - grief and loss- pregnancy + post partum- neurodivergence You can connect and reach out to Kristy at @kristy.teal or find out more about her work on her website. Kristy-teal.comWelcome, Mama!You've just opened the door to a transformative journey, where each moment is an opportunity to embrace change & start anew.Here, we're diving into the abundance of holistic health, a space where all parts of your well-being unite.This isn't just a platform; it's a space to wake up from the unconscious flow, for authentic stories, & thought-provoking conversations that resonate with the heartbeat of motherhood.Exploring the core of holistic living that nurtures whole person health. That is your physical, mental, emotional, & spiritual sides. It's a holistic approach that acknowledges the bio-individuality of your being, recognizing that true well-being is an integration of these interconnected elements.So, buckle up, Mama!This journey promises growth, self-discovery, & the joy of nurturing every aspect of yourself.I am Tia Walden, a Holistic Nutritionist and integrative Nutrition Health Coach, focusing on prenatal and postpartum nutrition. I am the author of an Amazon best seller Obsessed with mindful eating, a heart-centered approach to nutrition, and an experienced podcaster.Above all, I am a stay-at-home mama.Together, let's navigate the twists & turns, and remember, every step is a chance to Begin Again.Stay connected with Tia on Instagram: @tia.walden or reach out via email at tiawaldencoaching@gmail.com

#lafires #mentalhealth #ptsd #podcast In this episode of The Collier Landry Show, we dive into the profound psychological impact of the LA wildfires and the aftermath of rebuilding communities. Los Angeles has faced devastating fires, leaving countless individuals grappling with loss, trauma, and the daunting task of starting over. Elizabeth Rona, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner specializing in trauma recovery and stress resilience, joins me. We explore the emotional toll of natural disasters, the hidden psychological dangers of rebuilding, and how communities can heal in the wake of the destruction. We discuss: ⭐ The immediate and long-term effects of fire-related trauma ⭐ How grief manifests after losing homes, memories, and stability ⭐ The psychological challenges of rebuilding and displacement ⭐ Coping strategies for individuals and families facing post-disaster stress ⭐ The role of community support in the healing process If you or someone you know has been affected by wildfires or any large-scale disaster, this episode offers insight, validation, and tools to move forward. Elizabeth's Website: https://www.elizabethrona.com Link to this episode on YouTube: Ways you can support this channel: ➡️ Buy Me A Coffee https://www.buymeacoffee.com/collierlandry ➡️ WISH LIST! https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3FH1VW897OG84 ➡️ VENMO: https://www.venmo.com/u/collier-landry ➡️ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry ➡️ Merch Store: https://www.collierlandry.com/store ➡️ Shop Using My Amazon Affiliate Link (It's FREE!): https://www.amazon.com/shop/collierlandry ⭐️ Instagram: https://instagram.com/@collierlandry Disclaimer: This content is for informational purposes only and reflects my independent opinion. Sources include public news sites, interviews, court documents, and similar materials. Statements from others are considered alleged unless confirmed. I am not a licensed therapist or medical professional, and this content is not a substitute for professional mental health advice or treatment. If you are experiencing mental health challenges, consult a qualified healthcare professional. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Information is provided "as is" without guarantees of accuracy, completeness, or suitability. Views expressed are personal and may change over time. Verify all information independently. I am not liable for any errors, omissions, or damages arising from the use of this content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this insightful episode of Winning the Divine Lottery, we welcome Jelena Tesanovich, a nationally board-certified and trauma-trained Functional Medicine Health and Wellness Coach , to discuss the profound relationship between nervous system regulation and healing from autoimmune conditions. Jelena shares her personal journey of overcoming two autoimmune diseases, shedding light on the essential role the nervous system plays in achieving and sustaining health. Together, we explore: • How to recognize whether you're in a sympathetic (fight-or-flight) or parasympathetic (rest-and-digest) state. • The importance of creating safety within your body and how this can unlock the potential for deep healing. • Simple, practical tools for tuning into your body and regulating your nervous system. • Jelena's inspiring story of resilience and the somatic practices that helped her reclaim her health and vitality. This episode is a powerful exploration of how understanding and healing your nervous system can create the foundation for overcoming chronic health challenges. Whether you're navigating autoimmune conditions, chronic stress, or trauma, Jelena's wisdom offers hope and tangible steps forward. Resources & Links: Jalena is a nationally board-certified and trauma-trained Functional Medicine Health and Wellness Coach with over 15 years of experience in health, wellness and fitness training. As a Somatic Health Coach, she specializes in helping women heal from autoimmune conditions, blending trauma healing and nervous system regulation with a functional medicine approach to overall well-being. Jalena holds certifications as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner through Somatic Experiencing International and a Mindfulness and Meditation Practitioner from the Awareness Training Institute. Jalena is passionate about teaching women how to REGULATE and EXPAND their nervous system, enabling them to overcome challenges associated with autoimmune conditions. • Connect with Jelena on her website: https://jalenat.com/ • Instagram: @jalenat Tune in to uncover the connection between safety, healing, and the nervous system, and begin your journey of reclaiming your health! To Work With Amy 1:1 - https://www.amydawns.com/coachingalignment Join the RED CARPET EXPRESS - https://www.amydawns.com/redcarpetexpress

Brad Kammer, LMFT, LPCC, is a California Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and Professional Clinical Counselor.  He's trained as a Somatic Psychotherapist and has worked in the field of trauma for over 20 years, specializing in working with Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD). Brad began his career as a Humanitarian Aid Worker in Asia which introduced him to personal and collective trauma. He is now the director of the Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC) that provides training, consultation and community for mental health professionals working with complex trauma.Marcia Black is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, NARM (NeuroAffective Relational Model) Senior Training Assistant, and NARM Faculty Committee member. Marcia has been in private practice for over 40 years in SF and the East Bay, specializing in treating complex and developmental trauma and other psychological conditions, including depression and loss, anxiety, relationship issues, and addiction.Stefanie Klein is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and NARM Master Therapist. She is the Assistant Training Director and Faculty for the Complex Trauma Training Center, and is very passionate about the need for helping professionals to be trauma informed and for mental health providers to be trained in effective approaches for working with Complex Trauma.  In This EpisodeComplex Trauma Training Center (CTTC)FB - @complextraumatrainingcenter  IG - @cttc_training---If you'd like to support The Trauma Therapist Podcast and the work I do you can do that here with a monthly donation of $5, $7, or $10: Donate to The Trauma Therapist Podcast.Click here to join my email list and receive podcast updates and other news.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-trauma-therapist--5739761/support.

Connection and healing often happen amid our messiest, most vulnerable moments. The rawness of our experiences can create the space we need to welcome a new way of living, loving, and even learning. One clinical counselor has witnessed this truth repeatedly throughout her multifaceted career and personal life. Her ability to stay with discomfort and lend intuitive support has made her an effective NARM® Therapist and an outstanding NARM Training Assistant. On this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Ruth invites Lisa Gillispie LPCC-S, to share observations from her role as Lead Training Assistant for NARM Therapist Trainings run by the Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC), and her multi-discipline career as a trauma-informed practitioner. The pair also discuss the ripple effect that NARM training has created in Lisa's personal healing journey.  About Lisa Gillispie:  Lisa Gillispie is a licensed professional clinical counselor in private practice in Columbus, Ohio. Lisa came to counseling as a second career following 25 years as a trauma-informed bodyworker specializing in craniosacral therapy. Lisa is a NARM® Master Therapist, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, and Lead Training Assistant for the Complex Trauma Training Center. She is also one of the trainers who teaches the Introduction to NARM webinars offered by CTTC. Lisa loves supporting other professionals in developing their skills for working with developmental trauma. As a single parent to two kiddos, Lisa has found NARM invaluable for helping her grow her ability to meet the challenges of parenting with humor and kindness. To read the full show notes and discover more resources, visit https://complextraumatrainingcenter.com/transformingtrauma *** SPACE: SPACE is an Inner Development Program of Support and Self-Discovery for Therapists on the Personal, Interpersonal, and Transpersonal Levels offered by the Complex Trauma Training Center. This experiential learning program offers an immersive group experience designed to cultivate space for self-care, community support, and deepening vitality in our professional role as therapists. Learn more about how to join. The Complex Trauma Training Center: https://complextraumatrainingcenter.com View upcoming trainings: https://complextraumatrainingcenter.com/schedule/ The Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC) is a professional organization providing clinical training, education, consultation, and mentorship for psychotherapists and mental health professionals working with individuals and communities impacted by Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Trauma (C-PTSD). CTTC provides NARM® Therapist and NARM® Master Therapist Training programs, as well as ongoing monthly groups in support of those learning NARM. CTTC offers a depth-oriented professional community for those seeking a supportive network of therapists focused on three levels of shared human experience: personal, interpersonal & transpersonal.  The Transforming Trauma podcast embodies the spirit of CTTC – best described by its three keywords: depth, connection, and heart - and offers guidance to those interested in effective, transformational trauma-informed care. We want to connect with you! Facebook @complextraumatrainingcenter Instagram @complextraumatrainingcenter LinkedIn YouTube  

Anxiety and stress are pervasive issues affecting many, often rooted in unresolved trauma and dietary choices. In this episode, we explore the connection between our food, nervous system regulation, and self-sabotage while emphasizing a need for personalized therapeutic approaches. • The link between nutrition and mental health • How self-sabotaging behaviors stem from trauma • Understanding nervous system dysregulation • The importance of personalized wellness strategies • Quick fixes vs. addressing root causes • Impact of hormonal changes in women over 40 • Importance of surrounding oneself with holistic practitionersJoin us to explore this notion with Jelena Tasakovich, a board-certified functional medicine health coach renowned for her expertise in nervous system regulation and trauma release. Our discussion casts a light on how modern dietary and lifestyle choices, particularly the intake of processed foods and sugars, contribute to stress, anxiety, and burnout. Jelena reveals how these choices can lead to nervous system dysregulation, uncovering the crucial links between chronic stress, unresolved trauma, and mental health issues.Bio Jalena Tasakovich is a nationally board-certified and trauma-trained functional medicine health and wellness coach with over 15 years of experience. She specializes in trauma healing as the first certified Practitioner of The Richards Trauma Process in the United States. In addition, Jalena holds certifications as a Mindfulness and Meditation Practitioner from the Awareness Training Institute and as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner from Somatic Experiencing International. Her passion is helping high-impact women have it all: balancing their work, family and personal well-being to thrive as the best, most empowered version of themselves.Website and Social Media Website - Jalenat.comSocial Media - FacebookWe hope you have enjoyed this episode. Please like, comment, subscribe, and share the podcast.To find out more about Lynnis and what is going on in the V.I.B.E. Living World please go to https://link.tr.ee/LynnisJoin the V.I.B.E. Wellness Woman Network, where active participation fuels the collective journey toward health and vitality. Subscribe, engage, and embark on this adventure toward proactive well-being together. Go to https://www.vibewellnesswomannetwork.com to join. We have wonderful events, courses, challenges, guides, blogs and more all designed for the midlife woman who wants to keep her V.I.B.E. and remain Vibrant, Intuitive, Beautiful, and Empowered after 40+. Interested in an AI platform that meets all your needs? Click here