Save As: NextGen Heritage Conservation

As artificial intelligence (AI) transforms modern life, we're understanding more about the benefits and tradeoffs of its use in generating content. New alum Paul Kim wrote his master's thesis about how generative AI (genAI) perpetuates false narratives about Asian and Pacific Islander Americans (APIA), and how communities can use genAI to reclaim those narratives.In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with Paul about his thesis, Encoding Counter Memories: Artificial Intelligence as a Tool for APIA Community Empowerment. He completed it for his dual master's degree in heritage conservation and landscape architecture and urbanism.They discuss ethical concerns like misinformation and data privacy, how bias affects APIA heritage, and how communities can—and must—use it to share their stories and amplify accurate history. Paul's already on the case as a Past Futures Fellow for Asian and Pacific Islander Americans in Historic Preservation (APIAHiP)!See episode page for photos, resources, and transcript.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

An Encore episode with a new update!A group of architecture students at the University of Southern California wants to do more than just design buildings. They want to work with communities to “un-design'' spatial injustice and leverage the power of residents in shaping their neighborhoods.In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with students Reily Gibson and Kianna Armstrong about L.A.'s Sugar Hill, an important neighborhood cut in half by construction of the I-10 Freeway. A nonprofit they co-founded, Architecture + Advocacy, worked with neighborhood partners on a community celebration and a design-build project.Reily and Willa walk and talk about Sugar Hill's history and legacy of activism, and Kianna shares how a new generation of architecture students is using heritage conservation (even if they don't call it that) to help neighborhoods affected by structural racism and gentrification.See episode page for photos, resources, and transcript.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

Photographer Sally Mann once said, “Photographs open doors to the past, but also allow a look into the future.” Photography is a key component of the historic documentation process. New graduate Sam Malnati (MHC/MUP '25) delved into photography's role in the field for her thesis, Contemporary Vision: Photography's Influence on Perception of Places in the Past. In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with Sam about the history of photography and its use in the Historic American Buildings Survey, the differences between film and digital photography for historic documentation, and how researching the thesis helped Sam slow down and look at her world.See episode page for photos, resources, and transcript.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

In this “Where Are They Now?” episode, we catch up with Elysha Paluszek (MHC ‘10), senior associate, architectural historian, and preservation planner at Architectural Resources Group. She's been highlighting hidden history since her master's thesis, The Los Angeles African American Heritage Area: A Proposal for Development. At ARG, she's worked on award-winning studies revealing how policy and practice shaped the built environment in West Hollywood and Los Angeles. Elysha chats with co-host Cindy Olnick about these projects and more, including her career path, the field's evolution, and what she'd change with a magic wand.See episode page for photos, resources, and transcriptConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

A month after the disastrous fires in the Los Angeles area, this special episode features a conversation among Save As co-hosts Trudi Sandmeier and Cindy Olnick, and producer Willa Seidenberg. Trudi reflects on the loss of her historic family home, her close-knit neighborhood, and the Will Rogers ranch, an integral part of her and her family's lives. We discuss the city's current state of grief and bewilderment, the understandable rush to rebuild along with the need to plan thoughtfully, and how we must focus not just on what we've lost, but what remains.See episode page for photos, resources, and transcriptConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

In this “Where Are They Now?” episode, we catch up with alum Junyoung Myung (MHC '15), who followed yet another of many career paths in heritage conservation: research and teaching. His exciting work blends architecture, design, heritage conservation, and technology—from teaching undergrad architects about adaptive reuse, to training AI to identify architectural styles, and much more. He's also finishing his doctoral dissertation, which explores how generations of Korean immigrants and Korean Americans created a unique ethnic urban landscape in Los Angeles. It builds on his master's thesis, Values-Based Approach to Heritage Conservation: Identifying Cultural Heritage in Los Angeles Koreatown. Jun talks with co-host Trudi Sandmeier about working with residents to identify overlooked places of memory and meaning, using digital technology to advance the field, and inspiring the next generation of architects to embrace heritage conservation.Photos, links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

As a young architectural historian in San Francisco, Shayne Watson would take lunchtime walks near her office, pondering how and where the city's lesbian history took shape. She discovered that one of the earliest lesbian bars once stood right up the street in North Beach, a neighborhood that served as the birthplace of the city's lesbian community—though you'd never know it just by looking. After earning her USC master's degree in 2009, Shayne decided to do something about underrecognized LGBTQ history in San Francisco. She never looked back and is now a national leader in LGBTQ preservation.Producer Willa Seidenberg took a walk with Shayne in North Beach to see some sites from her thesis, Preserving the Tangible Remains of San Francisco's Lesbian Community in North Beach, 1933 to 1960. They discuss the neighborhood's roots in tourism, its transformation after Prohibition, and its uncertain fate in the face of the affordable housing crisis.Photos, links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

In case you missed it, we're re-releasing this episode from Season 1.The allure of abundant work and fertile soil drew many to California, and in particular, the rich rural areas of the state. Punjabi workers came in small numbers to Yuba City in the early 1900s,  but after Indian independence in 1947 when Punjab was split in two, that trickle became a steady stream. Now this rural area known for its peach orchards is the heart of a vibrant South Asian Punjabi community, rich with traditions and culture.In this episode, hear from alumna Deepeaka Dhaliwal about her family ties to the area and some of the sites she explored in her research for her thesis  Yuba-Sutter: A Case Study for Heritage Conservation in Punjabi-American Communities.See episode page for photos, links, and transcript.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

Before Death Valley became a desert tourism mecca, it was a mining hot spot. The homelands of the Timbisha Shoshone tribe were opened to industry during the California Gold Rush. In this “Where Are They Now?” episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with alumna Mary Ringhoff about her thesis on the early-twentieth-century mining town of Ryan, an unusually well-preserved site just outside the boundaries of Death Valley National Park. The company town housed workers at the Pacific Coast Borax Company, which produced the famous “20 Mule Team” cleaning agent used in millions of households.Mary, an archaeologist by training, describes the lives of miners in a harsh desert environment, the town's conversion into a hotel for tourists, and how it became a ghost town. She also shares the surprising project she's been investigating in her work as an architectural historian.  See episode page for photos, links, and transcript.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn!

One of the signs memorializing the 1955 murder of Emmett Till weighs nearly 500 pounds and is designed to absorb a rifle round. It's the fourth version of the sign, the others having been vandalized and riddled with bullet holes.How can communities recognize and preserve vulnerable Black heritage sites without placing them more at risk? New alumna Kira Williams shares her views with co-host Cindy Olnick on a visit to L.A.'s St. Elmo Village, a historic site of art and healing. They explore the site and discuss Kira's thesis, Being a Part of the Narrative: How to Preserve Black Heritage in the U.S. South While Mitigating Violence and Facilitating Change?See episode page for photos, transcript, and linksConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Why do urban rivers look like they do? What makes one river key to a city's identity and another one largely unknowable? We wrap up Season Four with a trip to the banks of the Los Angeles River, where Cindy Olnick chats with new dual-degree alum Leslie Dinkin about her award-winning master's thesis, Heritage in Practice: A Study of Two Urban Rivers. Leslie wanted to know what happened to set the Los Angeles and San Antonio Rivers on such different courses in the development of their respective cities. In addition to comparing their histories, she walked nearly sixty miles along both rivers. In her thesis, she documents the experience through her written reflections and hundreds of photos by Rio (yes, Rio) Asch Phoenix. In the episode, she shares stories, insights, and part of her conversation with Char Miller, Director of Environmental Analysis and W. M. Keck Professor of Environmental Analysis and History at Pomona College.  Photos, links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Drag performances have long been a draw for audiences in L.A., though often held “underground” because of threats of persecution. In addition to its entertainment history, drag has had a role in affirming and protecting gender identity.  Architect and recent graduate Jesús (Chuy) Barba Bonilla researched this history for his master's thesis, Drag Culture of Los Angeles: Intangible Heritage through Ephemeral Places. In this episode, Willa Seidenberg chats with Chuy about how he chose this topic and why it matters within and beyond the LGBTQ+ community. He delves into the challenges of researching drag's hidden and erased heritage and the vital need to uncover, document, and share these stories.Photos and links on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Tools for documenting historic buildings evolve constantly, but professional 3D scanners remain out of reach for most of us. Alumna Ye Hong, our first dual-degree student in Heritage Conservation and Building Science, sees a path to more equitable heritage conservation in the nearly ubiquitous smartphone. For her thesis, she tested the potential and limitations of mobile apps to scan Reunion House, designed by Richard and Dion Neutra. In this episode, co-host Trudi Sandmeier discusses this exciting project with Ye, as well as (fellow alum) Sian Winship of the Neutra Institute for Survival through Design.Photos and links on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Dedicated students at the University of Southern California have pulled out the laser scanners and measuring tapes to document the Wilfandel Clubhouse in the West Adams neighborhood of Los Angeles. The Wilfandel Club, the oldest Black women's club in Los Angeles, was founded in 1945 by Della Williams (wife of architect Paul R. Williams) and Fannie Williams as a safe place for social, civic, and community events. In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg visits the clubhouse to see the students in action, hear what they're doing and why, and talk with longtime member Jan Morrow Bell.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

New alumna (and Save As producer) Willa Seidenberg has enjoyed the mineral-water spas of Desert Hot Springs for decades. In the 1950s, the Coachella Valley town became a destination for middle- and working-class families who frequented the simple spa motels, or "spa-tels." Willa and co-host Cindy Olnick took a road trip to Desert Hot Springs to see the remaining spa-tels and talk about Willa's thesis, Spa City: The Midcentury Spa-Tels of Desert Hot Springs. You'll hear about Willa's research journey down rabbit holes that led to valuable discoveries. You'll also learn about tools the town could use to boost its economy by celebrating its heritage.  Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

A San Francisco native, alumna Emi Takahara always wondered why so many locals dismiss the historic Fisherman's Wharf as a tourist trap. Sure, it has overpriced food, but it also has a culinary history that might surprise you—as well as longtime businesses trying to weather the changing times. In this episode, Emi talks with producer Willa Seidenberg about her thesis, The Restaurant That Started It All: The Hidden Heritage of San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf, how Italian immigrants shaped Fisherman's Wharf in the nineteenth century, and how it's evolving in the twenty-first.See episode page for photos, links, and transcriptConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Alumna Isabel Thornton grew up in the Rust Belt town of Roanoke, Virginia. After graduating from USC, she eventually returned home and took note of the city's beautiful Victorian homes, many vacant and in a state of disrepair. Linking her experience in affordable housing with her passion for historic places inspired her to establish a nonprofit called Restoration Housing. In this episode of Save As, Isabel talks with Trudi about how her organization is successfully rehabilitating neglected houses into unique high-quality affordable rental housing. Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Alumna Sara Delgadillo grew up in Pacoima, a blue-collar neighborhood in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley. Sara joined us in Season One to discuss how growing up in Pacoima influenced her life, studies, and career in heritage conservation. She also shared some of the enclave's rich history, including some of the longtime small businesses that serve as centers of community and cultural continuity. One of them, Lenchita's Restaurant, recently won a $5,000 Legacy Business Grant from the Los Angeles Conservancy! Hear about this well-deserved honor in a brief update with Sara and Chef Art Luna, a culinary instructor and grandson of Lenchita's founder Angelita Alvarez Rentería. Then enjoy the original episode—and get in line for your holiday tamales.Photos, links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

After the Watts Rebellion of 1965, Black architects Art Silvers and Robert Kennard designed a Late Modern building for the Mafundi Institute, a cultural organization. The Watts Happening Cultural Center opened in 1970 as a place of creative expression, community, and healing. The popular Watts Coffee House has called the building home for decades. Now commonly called the Mafundi Building, this neighborhood treasure needs some TLC and new programming by and for the community.We featured the Mafundi Building in Season 1, when it faced demolition and USC Materials Conservation students used it as their case study. MHC alum Rita Cofield, a lifelong community member and longtime champion of the building, joined us for the first episode. Now executive director of Friends at Mafundi and project leader of the Getty's African American Historic Places Los Angeles initiative, Rita returns with an update on exciting developments. We follow the update with the original episode. This is a long one, but stick with it—you'll be glad you did.See episode page for photos and linksConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

From 1930s census cards to virtual reality, the Bunker Hill Refrain project just keeps getting cooler. This multi-year effort is using data to reimagine downtown L.A.'s Bunker Hill—a historic, vibrant neighborhood razed in the urban renewal/removal of the 1950s. Dr. Meredith Drake Reitan offers an update on the project, which is digitally rebuilding the neighborhood block by block. Hear the latest on this great partnership to illuminate the social cost of urban renewal, inform more thoughtful planning going forward, perhaps even reconnect the community. Then hear the original episode from Season 1!Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Save As is taking a wee little break this fall.  BUT we will bring you some exciting updates on previous episodes.  We will be back in 2024 better than ever and with new and interesting episodes.  Stay tuned and take this time to catch up on previous episodes from Seasons 1, 2 and 3!Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

A group of architecture students at the University of Southern California wants to do more than just design buildings. They want to work with communities to “un-design'' spatial injustice and leverage the power of residents in shaping their neighborhoods. In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with students Reily Gibson and Kianna Armstrong about L.A.'s Sugar Hill, a very important neighborhood cut in half by construction of the I-10 Freeway. A nonprofit they co-founded, Architecture + Advocacy, worked with neighborhood partners on a community celebration and a design-build project. Reily and Willa walk and talk about Sugar Hill's history and legacy of activism, and Kianna shares how a new generation of architecture students is using heritage conservation (even if they don't call it that) to help neighborhoods affected by structural racism and gentrification.Photos, links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

When Emily Varley arrived in Beaufort, SC for a summer internship, she had no idea she'd make a discovery that would change the course of her studies at USC. Her research for the Reconstruction Era National Historical Park led her to a boarded-up Freedman's cottage associated with both Daniel Simmons, a Black soldier for the Union in the Civil War, and Edith Stokes, a Black woman who lived there for nearly 60 years. Edith's granddaughter Annie Mae Stokes was born in the house and shared stories with Emily about everyday life there. Will those stories be part of the park's Reconstruction-based interpretation? Emily talks with co-host Trudi Sandmeier about her summer and her thesis, Reconstruction Right Now: Conserving Vernacular Heritage in Beaufort, South Carolina as an Act of Reconstructing Preservation Practice.See photos and links on episode pageConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Allensworth is a tiny town with a big history—and its residents are grappling with some very big issues. The only town in California founded and governed by African Americans, the Central Valley farming community was free of oppression and full of opportunity. It also faced more than its share of obstacles. Residents have been fighting to save it for decades, from working to restore the long-neglected cemetery to lobbying for the town center to become a state historic park. They're still fighting—this time to restore the land itself, flooded by the historic storms of spring 2023 and headed for much worse as the Sierra snowpack melts. USC landscape architecture professor Alison Hirsch created a class to work with residents on aspects of Allensworth's community plan including the cemetery, regenerative farming, and ecotourism. Hear from Professor Hirsch, students Luis Mota and Nina Weithorn, residents Sherry Hunter and Denise Kadara, and park docent Emmett Harden about Allensworth's rich history and remarkable community. See episode page for photos and show notesConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

One of the many great things about Los Angeles is its unrivaled legacy of modern residential architecture. Students in Peyton Hall's Materials Conservation class did their case study on the John J. Buck House (1934-35) by R. M. Schindler, one of the legendary architects who defined Southern California modernism. Co-host Cindy Olnick tagged along on a site visit and talked with Peyton, students Sam Malnati and Julie Dinkin, and owner Jocelyn Gibbs. The house is in great shape but has changed over time—even Jocelyn, an architectural historian, says it's full of mysteries. Buck did an original concept, and Schindler (who often made changes during construction) redesigned it. Buck added Art Deco touches inside, so Schindler didn't want the interiors published in his lifetime. Subsequent owners also altered the house and the grounds.To unravel some of the mysteries, Peyton's students documented the Buck House down to the Bakelite doorknobs, analyzed it inside and out to identify original elements and alterations, and suggested approaches to restoring the property (if anyone ever wanted to). See the episode page for links, transcript, and a mega-slideshow of photos by Danielle Armstrong, Julius Shulman, Dr. Fritz Block, and Ray WachsmannConnect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

In case you missed it, we're re-releasing this episode from Season 1.The decade-long civil war in Syria has decimated the country's infrastructure, killed more than 400,000 Syrians, and created the world's largest displaced population of around 13 million. Heritage sites play a big role in war as targets of destruction and are typically an early focus of rebuilding efforts.With an optimistic take on a devastating situation, alumna Dalia Mokayed talks about the effects of war on heritage and identity, and how heritage conservation can help cities and communities rebuild. The Aleppo native specifically addresses the Old City of Aleppo, a UNESCO World Heritage Site and the case study in her thesis, Heritage Conservation to Rebuild Cities After Crisis.Connect with us on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

Small businesses provide much more than goods and services. Over time, they become neighborhood anchors and a key source of culture and community—especially for new Americans. Heritage conservationists are increasingly turning to legacy business programs as economic development strategies to combat rising rents, gentrification, and the erosion of community character, particularly in ethnic and immigrant neighborhoods. In this episode, producer Willa Seidenberg talks with recent USC graduate Xiaoling Fang about her thesis, Legacy Business Program Implementation in American Urban Immigrant Neighborhoods. Xiaoling explored some of the longstanding small businesses in L.A.'s Chinatown and Little Tokyo neighborhoods, and how legacy business programs, like the ones recently adopted in Los Angeles, can be used as a tool to help culturally significant and beloved businesses survive.See episode page for show notes and photosConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

What happens when a community takes its educational future into its own hands? Funded by local advocates and a generous grant from the Rosenwald Fund, the Allen-White School served the African American community in Whiteville, Tennessee from 1920 until 1974. With thousands of graduates, the school helped shape the lives of multiple generations. Now, despite a 2012 arson attack, the alumni are working to restore the school buildings to once again serve the community. USC alumna and Tennessee native Brannon Smithwick dug into the stories of this influential school and the efforts to conserve it in her recent thesis, Educating Generations: The Legacy and Future of the Allen-White School Campus, A Rosenwald School in Whiteville, Tennessee. Through copious archival research and oral history interviews, Brannon learned firsthand the impact that one place can make.See episode page for photos and linksConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

Warning: This episode features the difficult topic of sexual slavery during World War II. Producer Willa Seidenberg talks with recent graduate Hanyu Chen about her thesis, Our Bodies, Their Battlegrounds: The Conservation of Comfort Stations in China. Before and during World War II, the Japanese Imperial Army forced women and girls into sexual slavery for the military in its occupied territories. Their captors called them "comfort women" and their prisons "comfort stations." Two of the few remaining former comfort stations are in Hanyu's hometown.In this episode, Hanyu discusses how the "comfort women" system developed, why these crimes took so long to reach the public eye, and why conserving the few former stations is critical to reclaiming these women's stories.See episode page for transcript, photos, and linksConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

In case you missed it, we're re-releasing an episode from our first season, chosen by our Save As intern, Emily Kwok. It's an Emily's Pick! Have you ever considered sound a character-defining feature? Musician and alum Kasey Viso Conley certainly has. She knows why Nat King Cole, Janis Joplin, Van Halen, and countless other recording artists insisted on using specific studios to get a certain sound. It's the physical environment of the studio, from acoustic tiles to echo chambers. Yet the transformation of recording technology has studios closing left and right. Why save these places when you can simulate their sounds with an app? How do you preserve pegboard that's no longer made? Hear how Kasey explored these issues and many more in her thesis, Acoustic Heritage of Recording Studios: Physical Characteristics and Signature Sound.Photos and links on episode pageConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

In case you missed it, we're re-releasing an episode from last season, chosen by our Save As intern, Emily Kwok. It's an Emily's Pick!  Should the Brady Bunch House be in the National Register of Historic Places? Why not? asks alum Jonathan Kaplan. In his master's thesis, the TV writer-turned-heritage conservationist makes a case for designating sites specifically for their use in movies and TV shows. Along with literary precedent dating back to Chaucer, Jonathan cites the deep meaning and shared cultural experiences these places create.  If a place inspires meaning, does it matter where that meaning comes from? Does reality matter in these fact-fluid times? Join us for a fascinating conversation that's just the tip of the iceberg. Photos, links, and thesis on episode pageConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

How can taking a building apart possibly relate to heritage conservation? Join us in the Upside Down for a chat with architect and alum Guadalupe Flores about his thesis, Deconstruction: A Tool for Sustainable Conservation. When a building can't be saved, reusing the materials makes perfect sense. The concept of deconstruction certainly isn't new. But how do we make the case for it in a disposable society—and make sure it's used only as a last resort? Photos,  links, and transcript on episode pageConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram and Facebook

Chinese American architect Gin D. Wong, FAIA (1922-2017) defined what it means to achieve the American dream. He immigrated from China as a boy and went on to have a 60-year career as a successful architect in Los Angeles. He played a key role in the design of post-World War II L.A., with projects including LAX, CBS Television City, and the iconic Union 76 gas station in Beverly Hills. In this episode, new alum Nirali Sheth discusses her thesis, A Silent Legacy: The Influence of Gin D. Wong's Work on the Los Angeles Built Environment. She shares insights on Wong's life and work, how credit can elude architects in big corporate firms, and how she researched her subject without access to his archive.Photos, transcript, and links on episode pageConnect with us @saveasnextgen on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter

This episode delves into global heritage conservation, as producer Willa Seidenberg talks with recent grad Haowen Yu about his thesis, Examining Feng Shui as Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage. Many Americans consider Feng Shui primarily an approach to arranging space. Yet it's a far more complex system of knowledge, practice, and tradition that has spanned more than a millennium. Feng Shui underlies virtually the entire built environment of China, but it hasn't (yet) been designated as a form of cultural heritage. Haowen discusses why he's not so sure it should be, and how Feng Shui has been viewed in China and around the world.Photos, transcript, and links on episode pageFollow us on Instagram and Twitter @saveasnextgen

We said “so long” to summer with a trip to the Santa Monica beach with historian Alison Rose Jefferson, whose work at USC launched a deep dive into African American recreation areas in the Golden State. Her master's thesis on Lake Elsinore led to her widely acclaimed book, Living the California Dream: African American Leisure Sites in the Jim Crow Era. Alison shares some of the struggles, successes, and legacies of Black leisure spaces in early twentieth-century SoCal. We also hear from an oral history with the late Verna (Deckard Lewis) Williams, who experienced fun in the sun—and racism from white beachgoers—firsthand.See episode page for photos and linksFor news and extras,  join us on our new Save As social feeds!@saveasnextgen — Instagram and Twitter

When is a light fixture not just a light fixture? When it helps tell the story of a remarkable home designed, and lived in, by one of the twentieth century's greatest architects. The 1951 Reunion House in L.A.'s Silver Lake neighborhood was designed on spec by Richard Neutra. It housed Neutra and his family as his home/studio down the street was rebuilt after a fire, and it served as the long-time home/studio of his son, architect Dion Neutra. In this episode, we hear how students Brannon Smithwick and Jesús (Chuy) Barba Bonilla learned about materials conservation by poring over switch plates and climbing on the roof of Reunion House. We also talk with instructor Peyton Hall, FAIA and Sian Winship of the Neutra Institute for Survival through Design, the home's new steward. If you think studying lighting, roofs, windows, and wood is boring, think again. This episode will give you a new appreciation of the materials in a historic home—with a love story thrown in for fun. Photos, links, and more on the episode page

Is Leimert Park the most significant neighborhood in Los Angeles? Katie Horak thinks it might be. “I don't think there's any neighborhood in the city that tells so many different important stories about our history as a city, and that really has the integrity to still tell that story,” she says in this episode of Save As. A USC alum, principal at Architectural Resources Group, and adjunct professor, Katie took her students out of the classroom and into the neighborhood to document Leimert Park's remarkable architectural and cultural heritage. We also talk with three of Katie's students—Zongqi Li, Emily Varley, and Kira Williams—about what they found on their adventure. They unraveled a mystery about how Leimert Park developed, saw how persistent racism affected African American and Japanese American residents, and traced the evolution of schools and churches. You'll hear why Katie considers Leimert Park so important—and you might even agree.See episode page for links, photos, and recording of class presentationTake our survey for a chance to win a Save As mug!

Last month, about ninety volunteers spent a weekend excavating the former hospital site at Manzanar, a World War II incarceration camp about 225 miles north of Los Angeles. Some of those volunteers were students in Mary Ringhoff's Cultural Resource Management class. One of those students was Save As producer Willa Seidenberg, who interviewed people on site about why they travel from near and far to care for this site of tragic memory. In this episode, we dig into the study of archaeology with Mary, hear Willa's great reporting, and talk with student Dani Velazco about what she got out of the experience (besides getting very, very dirty).Visit the episode page for links and photos, including fantastic images by photographer William Short!

As a kid, Laura Dominguez would sit under the kitchen table during tamale season, listening to family stories as the grownups handed her corn husks to play with. Now she's one of the people setting a new table for heritage conservation, with community as the centerpiece. In this episode, Laura shares the personal roots of her professional path, her doctoral research into the origins of conservation in Los Angeles, and a glimpse of the future she's helping to shape.See the episode page for photos and linksDon't miss Latinos in Heritage Conservation's Congreso! April 28-30, 2022, in Denver with virtual optionLearn more and register here

You may know that Greater Los Angeles has the largest Armenian population outside of Armenia. But you might think it's concentrated in the city of Glendale and Hollywood's Little Armenia. Recent alum Erik Van Breene found pockets of Armenian Americans throughout the county while researching his thesis, Not So Little Armenia: Conserving Armenian Heritage Sites in Los Angeles. In this episode, Erik shares how these enclaves formed in waves of immigration from the 1910s through the 1990s. He also gives us a glimpse of the vibrant Armenian economy encompassing food, media, and music–including a recording studio that drew Armenian artists from around the world in the 1970s. That means disco, which you do not want to miss. And he makes the case for mapping and more to conserve Armenian sites before it's too late.

Robert A. Kennard, FAIA (1920 - 1995) led an extraordinary life as an architect, mentor, and humanitarian. The son of a Pullman car porter, Kennard defied steep odds to build a successful career, design more than 700 structures, and create one of the longest-running African American-owned architecture firms in the western U.S. He “believed that people were more important than the spaces they occupied,” wrote USC alum Jerome Robinson in his master's thesis, An Odyssey in B-Flat: Rediscovering the Life and Times of Master Architect Robert A. Kennard. Jerome passed away before we could interview him for this podcast, yet he left a trove of stellar research and archival audio. We bring you some of it in this episode. We also hear personal stories of Kennard from his daughter Gail, who still runs the firm he formed in 1957. This episode is longer than usual (around 40 minutes), but stick with it–you'll find it worth your while, or your money back!See episode page for photos and links

Cemeteries mean many things to many people. In this episode, we talk with alum Rachel Trombetta about her thesis, Beit Olam: A Home Everlasting--The Jewish Cemeteries of East Los Angeles. Rachel shares the history of Jewish congregations in Los Angeles, how they moved away from the central city over the years, and what that means to the burial grounds established as their “forever homes.” She discusses distinct features of Jewish cemeteries and the specific challenges of conserving cemeteries in general. And she shares her unusual path to heritage conservation from the world of TV and film locations.See the episode page for photos and linksIf you've taken our 3-minute survey, thank you! If not, take it now and enter to win a fab Save As mug!

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San Francisco is a preservation-minded city, but as we hear in this episode, not all parts of the city get the same amount of preservation love. Alum Andrea Dumovich Heywood talks with us about her research into Clement Street, a diverse neighborhood in the city's Inner Richmond area, that is considered the city's second Chinatown.  You'll hear what makes this neighborhood vibrant, the few places that have been landmarked, and the case for designating some of the area's intangible heritage. And please complete our quick survey - enter to win a fab Save As mug! 

At the Alcoholism Center for Women (ACW), women regain their lives and claim their space in the world. They also take care of two century-old homes in one of L.A.'s oldest neighborhoods. Brenda Weathers founded  ACW in 1974 to give women—primarily lesbians, mainly women of color—a place to heal. Miracles have taken place there for nearly half a century. Recent grad Lindsay Mulcahy has spent the past few years delving into ACW's rich history, which she shared with us last year (Sisterhood Is Beautiful, Season 1, Episode 7). In this new episode, she returns to talk about a public history project centering the women of ACW, and how recovery and conservation are more alike than we might think.

In this grab bag of SoCal history, we talk with alum Sian Winship, an architectural historian with her fingers in many, many pies. She explored the world of modernist tract homes in her master's thesis, Quantity and Quality: Architects Working for Developers in Southern California, 1960-1973. Quantity and quality also characterize this wide-ranging conversation about mid-century modernism, women's heritage, social justice, the Civil War, and Palm Springs' dirty secret. Sian also shares her path from advertising to conservation and how she used gravel as a career move.  

When M. Rosalind Sagara entered the world of heritage conservation, she brought along a deep passion for, and background in, community organizing. At USC, she researched heritage advocacy through the lens of two contentious campaigns -- both led by local stakeholders working not just to save places, but to build power and community. Hear what Rosalind learned about community-led conservation then, and how she's building community and cultivating new leaders now with the Los Angeles Conservancy, Save Our Chinatown Committee, and Asian & Pacific Islander Americans in Historic Preservation. 

In 2003, the majority of the beloved Holiday Bowl in L.A.'s Crenshaw district was demolished. Although the bowling alley--a big box profoundly important to the community--was lost, the coffee shop--a Googie gem designed by Armet and Davis--remains standing and is now a Starbucks. Today's guest Katie Horak analyzed the efforts to save the Holiday Bowl in her 2006 thesis. Listen as Katie reflects on her research, how times have changed in terms of valuing cultural significance, and why communities should tell their own stories. Now a leader in our field, she's come back to USC as a teacher, inspiring the next generation of heritage conservationists.

At the turn of the last century, Black entrepreneur Arthur L. Reese convinced developer Abbot Kinney to hire Black workers for Kinney's seaside resort and amusement park, Venice of America. Reese had a hard time recruiting Blacks to the area because, even though Venice was one of the few neighborhoods without racially restrictive covenants, no one would rent or sell to them. Thus was born the Black ethnic enclave of Oakwood, formed through de facto racial separation, or the “racing of space.” In this episode, alum Rita Cofield delves into Oakwood's rich history, from the effects (positive and negative) of spatial segregation to the tangible and intangible evidence that remains--yet now faces erasure through rampant gentrification.

Should the Brady Bunch House be in the National Register of Historic Places? Why not? asks alum Jonathan Kaplan. In his master's thesis, the screenwriter-turned-heritage conservationist makes a case for designating sites specifically for their use in movies and TV shows. Along with literary precedent dating back to Chaucer, Jonathan cites the deep meaning and shared cultural experiences these places create. There's a reason the Christmas Story House is one of the top tourist attractions in Cleveland. If a place inspires meaning, does it matter where that meaning comes from? Join us for a fascinating chat that's just the tip of the iceberg. For much, much more, check out Jonathan's thesis on the Save As website, From Ramona to the Brady Bunch: Assessing the Historical Significance of Sites Used in Movies and Television Shows.