The Care Ministry Podcast

“Burnout doesn't mean you're weak. It means you've been strong for too long without rest.” In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe and Rebecca Bailey explore the challenges ministry leaders face when trying to juggle too many responsibilities. They unpack the "What's on Your Plate?" exercise, a practical tool that reveals just how overwhelmed we often are and guides leaders in setting boundaries, delegating tasks, and avoiding burnout. With wisdom and vulnerability, they offer encouragement for ministry leaders to care for themselves while faithfully serving others. Quotes “We tend to take on what's not ours to carry, and it's exhausting.” – Rebecca Bailey “Sometimes the hardest part is admitting you can't do it all.” – Laura Howe “Burnout doesn't mean you're weak. It means you've been strong for too long without rest.” – Rebecca Bailey Resources What's on Your Plate Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this insightful episode, Laura sits down with Dee Dee Mayer from the Boone Center for the Family. Dee Dee is a community leader, and she shares about the journey of launching and sustaining a care ministry in the local church. Dee Dee shares candidly about the challenges of burnout, the joy of building relational connections, and the pivotal role of volunteers in creating a culture of care. Together, they reflect on the importance of boundaries, spiritual strength, and not doing ministry alone. Tune in to hear practical tips and heartfelt wisdom for anyone passionate about supporting others while staying healthy themselves. Quotes Dee Dee: “If God calls you to something, He will equip you. But that doesn't mean you do it alone.” Laura: “We often confuse helping with fixing, but true support means walking alongside—not taking over.” Dee Dee: “The people who show up with willing hearts are often the ones God uses most.” Laura: “Healthy boundaries aren't walls—they're bridges that protect relationships and energy.” Dee Dee: “You don't have to be the expert, just present and prayerful.” Resources RelateStrong workshop Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of the Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe talks with Amy Hughes about the journey of hosting a Church Mental Health Summit at her church in Saratoga Springs, New York. Amy shares her experiences, lessons learned, and the surprising connections that made the event so impactful. From building community partnerships to encouraging difficult conversations about mental health, Amy's insights are a powerful reminder of the church's role in fostering healing and hope. Quotes Amy Hughes: "I have never had anyone say to me, 'We wish you hadn't done that.' In general, the feedback is very positive." Laura Howe: "If we don't step outside our comfort zones, we miss out on incredible moments." Amy Hughes: "You cannot do this alone. Gather a team of like-minded people who believe in what you're trying to do."Laura Howe: "It's vulnerable, uncomfortable, and a lot of work, but the impact is worth every bit of effort."Amy Hughes: "Don't assign yourself a single job on the day of the event except to host. It allows you to actually connect with people." Resources https://www.newtownroad.org/ Apply to become a Summit host Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of the Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe and Rebecca Bailey share their “origin story” as friends and colleagues, reflecting on how their connection has shaped their work in the mental health and ministry space. They discuss their experiences at the Church Mental Health Summit, the origins of their coaching partnership, and the power of building authentic, supportive connections within ministry. Whether you're a church leader, caregiver, or just passionate about helping others, this episode provides an inside look at how shared vision and collaboration can create impactful change. Quotes Laura Howe: "We can't deny that supporting others has an impact on us physically, mentally, and emotionally. We feel it all the time." Laura Howe: "If you're passionate about helping others, you're not alone. We just need to find our people." Laura Howe: "Even small connections can lead to meaningful impact when we work together in ministry." Resources Care Ministry Cohort Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this insightful episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe reconnects with Dr. Jamie Aten, co-founder of Spiritual First Aid, to explore how churches can become powerful sources of hope and healing through lay-led care. Jamie unpacks the research-backed “BLESS CPR” model, shares stories from disaster relief to church-based recovery, and outlines how Spiritual First Aid is equipping everyday people with tools to meet spiritual and emotional needs. Whether you're a ministry leader or someone with a heart for others, this episode will challenge and inspire you to see your role in care ministry in a whole new light. Quotes "Most people are way more equipped to care than they realize." – Jamie Aten "We've overclinicalized care—sometimes the most powerful thing is just showing up." – Laura Howe "The church is full of peer supporters—we're just not calling them that." – Laura Howe "If you can press play and lead a small group, you can run a Spiritual First Aid workshop." – Jamie Aten "Presence says more than words ever could." – Jamie Aten Resources Spiritual First Aid Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this powerful episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe sits down with Pastor Seth Perry to kick off Mental Health Awareness Month with a deeply personal and hopeful conversation. Seth shares his journey through bipolar disorder, addiction, and recovery, ultimately leading him back to faith and into pastoral ministry. Together, they discuss the intersection of mental health and ministry, how the church can create safe spaces for those struggling, and the upcoming launch of Seth's innovative app designed to support mental wellness in faith communities. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about integrating authentic mental health support within the Church. Quotes "I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at 17... I left the church for 12 years." – Pastor Seth Perry "There is incredible hope in the church being a safe space for mental health conversations." – Laura Howe "My calling into ministry was born from my recovery—it was like being rebuilt from the inside out." – Pastor Seth Perry "Mental Health Sunday is not just a day—it's an invitation for churches to be places of healing and hope." – Laura Howe Resources ourstigma.com Mental Health Sunday toolkit Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe sits down with Hilary Spears, Director of Care at The Journey West County in St. Louis. Hilary shares the unique journey of her church—transitioning from a multi-site model to an independent congregation—and how that shift has impacted care ministry. With deep roots in counseling and a growing lay care team, Hilary brings wisdom and vulnerability as she navigates big-picture strategy while handling real-time needs. They discuss everything from normalizing mental health in church, developing sustainable care systems, building a thriving Deacon team, and the delicate balance of working in ministry while also working on it. If you're building or refining your church's care ministry, this episode is full of relatable challenges, practical tips, and thoughtful encouragement. Quotes Hilary Spears: “It kind of feels like we're building the airplane while it's in the air.” Laura Howe: “Care ministry grows at the speed of relationship.” Hilary Spears: “We've done a great job of normalizing counseling. The stigma around mental health really doesn't exist in our church anymore.” Hilary Spears: “I can't have everything perfectly set and then provide care—I have to do both at the same time.” Laura Howe: “Not every church needs to do it all. Care ministry should reflect the unique people, vision, and resources of your church.” Resources Sample Care Protocol Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

“Hosting a Mental Health Sunday isn't about being experts—it's about being open.” In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura and Rebecca dive into a topic that's close to their hearts—mental health in the church. This time, the focus is all about hosting a meaningful Mental Health Sunday. From common hesitations to creative, hope-filled ideas, the episode offers a fresh perspective on how churches can approach mental health with compassion and confidence. Whether you're just getting started or looking to deepen your approach, this one's full of practical encouragement. Quotes Laura Howe: “Mental health is interwoven in all that we talk about, even if we haven't named it directly.” Rebecca Bailey: “People are looking for solutions to get rid of mental health like it's a problem to be solved, but it's really about coming alongside people.” Rebecca Bailey: “Mental health conversations don't always have to be heavy—they can be holy.” Laura Howe: “Hosting a Mental Health Sunday isn't about being experts—it's about being open.” Resources Mental Health Sunday Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe welcomes Rebecca Taguma from the Trauma Healing Institute to discuss how churches can effectively respond to the rising needs of trauma care in their communities. As trauma, loneliness, and suffering grow more prevalent, the Church holds a unique and powerful role in offering healing. Rebecca shares the mission of the Trauma Healing Institute and how biblically based small groups are equipping local churches to walk alongside those in pain. Through honest conversation, they highlight the importance of creating safe spaces, embracing a trauma-informed lens, and empowering everyday people to be part of God's redemptive work. Quotes “We equip the church with tools to help people who are suffering.” — Rebecca Taguma “There's something beautiful about people discovering that their story matters.” — Rebecca Taguma “The church is one of the few places where people can find real community and hope.” — Laura Howe “We're seeing trauma on a scale that we've never seen before… the Church needs to be ready.” — Rebecca Taguma “When you create safety, people feel seen, and healing begins.” — Laura Howe Resources Register for the live workshop on Forgiveness Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, we're diving deep into the challenges of caregiving and ministry leadership. As caregivers, we often carry heavy emotional, spiritual, and logistical loads—but at what cost? Laura Howe explores the reality of compassion fatigue, the importance of setting boundaries, and practical strategies to sustain your calling without burning out. Whether you're a pastor, care ministry leader, or a volunteer walking alongside those in need, this conversation will provide valuable insights and actionable steps to strengthen both your well-being and the care you offer to others. Quotes Laura Howe: "Ministry leaders are the first responders to their congregation's needs, but without support, they risk burnout." Hilary Spears: "At times, it feels like we're carrying the weight of everyone's struggles, but who's carrying ours?" Laura Howe: "The work of hearing problems and finding solutions is so great that even Moses couldn't do it alone." Hilary Spears: "I keep telling everybody, we're starting small. We're going to do this really well, then add to it." Laura Howe: "The church isn't supposed to be a crisis center—but we underestimate the power of belonging, hope, and purpose." Resources Get free coaching with Laura! Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe and Rebecca Bailey dive into the essential steps of building a thriving care ministry team. They emphasize that team ministry is not just about filling roles but about discipleship and fostering a sense of belonging, purpose, and hope. The conversation covers the importance of matching people's gifts with ministry needs, preventing burnout through check-ins and appreciation, and how leaders can equip and sustain their teams for long-term impact. Whether you're starting from scratch or refining your current team, this episode provides actionable steps to create a strong, sustainable care ministry​. Quotes "Discipleship is not a linear process only looking at how people engage in the church. It's a back-and-forth relationship where there is an expectation that the church cares for its people." – Laura Howe​ "The goal is that people feel connected, capable, and in control—those are the foundations of a strong care ministry." – Laura Howe​ "It's not about filling tasks. It's about creating a ministry where people are valued, equipped, and supported to serve with purpose." – Rebecca Bailey​ "If we shift our mindset, success isn't about numbers; it's about the spiritual growth of our team and how we care for one another." – Rebecca Bailey​ "Preventing burnout isn't just a strategy—it's modeling rest and boundaries in a way that reflects God's design for ministry." – Laura Howe​ Resources Free Download - Building Your Care Team: A Quick Start Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Dr. Jackie Perry joins us to discuss the power of attuned listening and how it transforms care ministry. Dr. Perry, a licensed clinical mental health counselor and founder of The Soulwell Center, shares her insights on how truly listening—beyond just hearing words—creates connection, healing, and trust. We explore the difference between active listening and attuned listening, why listening is often harder than it seems, and how we can train ourselves to be more present in our conversations. If you've ever felt pressure to have the “right” answer when supporting others, this conversation will give you a new perspective on how simply being present can be the greatest gift. Quotes "Loving begins with listening." – Dr. Jackie Perry "When we listen, we're not just hearing facts—we're listening for the deeper story being told." – Dr. Jackie Perry "Our brain naturally wants to predict the future, but attuned listening requires us to stay fully in the present." – Dr. Jackie Perry "It's not about having the perfect response—it's about being with someone in their moment." – Dr. Jackie Perry "Say less, notice more. Don't respond with a question—respond with presence." – Dr. Jackie Perry Resources The Attuned Listener Care Ministry Podcast - Ep 147 Care Ministry Podcast - Ep 131 Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, host Laura Howe sits down with Rev. Emily Badgett to explore the power of equipping peer volunteers in caregiving ministry. Rev. Emily shares her personal journey, from experiencing deep grief to finding her calling in ministry, and offers practical insights on how churches can build sustainable care teams. Discover how to create a culture of care, empower volunteers, and ensure ministry leaders avoid burnout. Plus, don't forget to download the free Model of Care Tool to help structure a thriving caregiving ministry. Quotes Rev. Emily Badgett: “One of the most important lessons I've learned in ministry is that we're not called to solve people's problems—we're called to walk alongside them.” Laura Howe: “When we create a culture of care, we're not just meeting needs—we're building belonging, purpose, and hope in our church communities.” Rev. Emily Badgett: “Grief has shaped me in ways I never expected. It has deepened my empathy and helped me see the sacredness in simply being present with others.” Laura Howe: “Volunteers don't need to have all the answers. They just need to be willing to show up, listen, and offer the gift of presence.” Rev. Emily Badgett: “Sustainable care ministry isn't about one person doing all the work—it's about shared responsibility and training people to support each other.” Resources Model of Care Guide Join The Attuned Listener Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of the Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe and Rebecca Bailey dive into the essential roles of Peers, Pastors, and Professionals in providing care within the church. They discuss the challenges of reactive versus proactive care ministry and the importance of structured systems to support both leaders and congregants. You'll hear practical insights on distributing the responsibility of care across the church community, ensuring sustainability while preventing burnout. Plus, don't miss the free Model of Care download linked in the show notes!​ Quotes Rebecca Bailey: “Proper care ministry is not running off of dopamine. Proper care ministry is running off of some calm serotonin and maybe some oxytocin. We're actually connecting with people.”​ Laura Howe: “It feels good when you're able to find a solution and people are just like, ‘Thank you, thank you.' But it is not sustainable.”​ Rebecca Bailey: “Discipleship happens in care ministries. This is how we are equipping the saints on how to care for people.”​ Laura Howe: “We are trying to develop a culture of care. We are trying to approach care in more of a preventative way.”​ Rebecca Bailey: “His yoke is easy, and His burden is light. So if we're feeling very heavy about this, then maybe we might not be following some of the guidance set forth in scripture.” Resources Model of Care Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe sits down with Reverend Dr. Chris Adams to explore the distinctions and overlaps between coaching, pastoral care, and clinical support. As a third-generation pastor, clinical psychologist, and experienced coach, Chris shares valuable insights on how churches can integrate these three approaches to create a holistic support system. Whether you're a ministry leader, a volunteer, or simply passionate about caring for others, this episode will equip you with practical tools and perspectives to enhance your caregiving efforts within your church and community. Quotes Chris Adams: “Pastors often carry the weight of caregiving, but when we integrate coaching, pastoral care, and clinical support, we create a web of care that allows people to truly thrive.” Laura Howe: “For many, these three roles exist in separate silos, but today we're talking about how they can actually complement one another to provide holistic care.” Chris Adams: “I found myself coaching ministry leaders before I even knew it was a thing. Now, coaching psychology is a recognized field, reinforcing the idea that leadership development is key to sustainable ministry.” Laura Howe: “This might be an eye-opening conversation for some and a confirmation for others that the church has the opportunity to provide layered and effective care.” Chris Adams: “Care ministry is not about doing it all alone; it's about recognizing our strengths and building a support system that empowers both caregivers and those they serve.” Resources Church Mental Health Summit Workshop registration - Flourishing in Ministry: The Power of Coaching for Church Leaders Flourishing in Ministry Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, host Laura Howe welcomes Christina Tang, a pastoral care leader in Hong Kong, to discuss the inspiring journey behind the creation of the Restore ministry. Christina shares how her passion for mental health support, coupled with the limited resources in Hong Kong, led her to develop training workshops and host events for church leaders and caregivers. From humble beginnings with a small group of "champions," Restore has grown into a broader movement, providing resources and encouragement to churches across Hong Kong. This episode highlights the power of faith, obedience, and community in addressing mental health within the church. Quotes Christina Tang:"Restore began by accident, but looking back, I can see how God was leading and providing every step of the way." Christina Tang:"Trust in His timing and His provision because it will come. I started with doubts, but the Lord brought the people and the resources." Laura Howe:"Sometimes we overcomplicate things. The simplicity of gathering people to pray and care for one another can have a profound ripple effect." Christina Tang:"We called our first group 'champions' because our church wasn't ready to openly talk about mental health without fear of judgment or shame." Christina Tang:"I wanted people to know that there are resources out there. Even in a small city like Hong Kong with limited options, God opened doors to provide what we needed." Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura sits down with Shannon Pugh, care pastor at Irving Bible Church, to explore the intentionality behind effective pastoral care. Shannon shares her journey from special needs ministry to leading a cohesive care strategy that spans benevolence, mental health support, and more. The conversation touches on the challenges of addressing diverse needs within the church, the importance of boundaries in care ministry, and innovative ways to connect with and support those in need. This episode offers practical insights and encouragement for ministry leaders striving to build communities of hope and purpose. Quotes "Caregiving is a gift, but it's also a responsibility that can deeply impact us if we don't take the time to reflect, debrief, and seek support." — Laura "You've got to get to where you trust God to fix problems because, in care ministry, your entire job is for people to come to you with their problems and ask for help." — Shannon Pugh "Pastors go wide; deacons go deep." — Shannon Pugh "If someone tells one person, that should be the only person they have to tell. There should then be a pipeline." — Shannon Pugh "We need to know our lane. Otherwise, we're spread too thin and not partnering with anyone well." — Shannon Pugh Resources Care Ministry Cohort Episode 41 | The Care Ministry Cohort Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this inspiring episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe and Rebecca Bailey discuss creating a proactive care ministry plan for 2025. They explore shifting from reactive crisis care to a responsive, prevention-focused model through intentional planning. Their insights on using the "Model of Care" framework and practical ministry strategies will equip church leaders to build sustainable care programs that meet real needs year-round. Quotes "The goal is to have systems and strategies in place so that you have space and capacity for prevention work." "It's about meeting people where they're at—not empty-handed, but with resources and tools ready to support." "We tend to feel like it's all on us individually, but good ministry brings people alongside to share the load." "When we set our future selves up for success, we create space for meaningful, impactful ministry." "This process of thinking ahead actually sets your future ministry up for success—it's planning with purpose." Resources https://www.hopemadestrong.org/care-ministry-cohort 2025 Care Ministry Calendar Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe sits down with Ariyana Rimson to explore the journey of establishing a care ministry. From recognizing unmet needs within the church to developing a clear structure for support, Ariyana shares her experience of transforming a personal vision into a thriving ministry. Her inspiring story highlights the power of compassionate leadership and the importance of building sustainable care systems within faith communities. Quotes “There has to be a way where people can express, ‘This is what I need,' and then people meet that need.” “We saw gaps where people didn't know who to go to for help. We needed something clear and consistent.” “By creating intentional care pathways, we empowered people to ask for help and support one another.” “When people know where to turn, they feel seen, supported, and cared for.” Resources arimson@fellowshipmemphis.org https://www.careministrycohort.com Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Did you know your rate of recovery is a sign of health? Cultivating resilience is all about paying attention to our ability to recalibrate. Today, Glenn Packiam shares with us from one of our top sessions in this year's Church Mental Health Summit. He gives three practical ways we can exercise our agency in this recalibration. Don't miss Glenn's insights on personal limits, keystone habits, and relational orbits. It's all in today's episode! Quotes Struggling is not a reflection of your abilities, your strength, or your faith. -Laura Howe There is no shame in being distressed, or anxious, or discouraged, or depressed, or feeling all kinds of dysregulation in your life. -Glenn Packiam Health is about how well we recover and how well we recalibrate for the seasons ahead. -Glenn Packiam You are not a bad leader because you have limits. But you can be an unhealthy leader if you transgress those limits. -Glenn Packiam We need the right people around us. -Glenn Packiam God works in our lives through a constellation of voices. -Glenn Packiam Resources glennpackiam.com @gpackiam Rockharbor.org Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

As caregivers, we often overlook the toll that compassion fatigue can take on our well-being. When constantly surrounded by others' struggles, feelings of exhaustion, overwhelm, and even numbness can creep in. In today's Summit replay, Aundi Kolber introduces the transformative concept of “trying softer.” Instead of pushing through life with sheer willpower, she invites us to adopt a gentler, more compassionate way—one that aligns with Jesus' call to find rest for our souls. Aundi also breaks down the neuroscience behind our “window of tolerance” and what happens when we live outside of it. Don't miss this insightful and restorative conversation in today's episode! Quotes “Our God is kind and compassionate, and we are invited to bring that compassion.” Aundi Kolber You are a child of God. And You are worth it. -Laura Howe Resources instagram.com/aundikolber aundikolber.com Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this special Advent-themed episode, Rebecca Bailey shares insights from Hope Made Strong's Advent Guide designed specifically for care ministry leaders. Rebecca reflects on the beauty and busyness of the season, offering practical self-care strategies and spiritual practices to help leaders find rest and renewal. From guided breathwork to reflections on Psalm 23, listeners are invited to embrace the "in-between" moments of Advent with hope, peace, joy, and love. Discover how to nurture your spirit while continuing to serve others during this sacred season. Quotes "To care for others, we must also care for ourselves. Rest, nourishment, and connection are not optional—they're essential." – Rebecca Bailey "In the quiet spaces of life, between the shadows of uncertainty and the illumination of understanding, there lies an opportunity for profound spiritual transformation." – Rebecca Bailey "True joy can coexist with lament. We can experience joy and sorrow together, knowing that God meets us in both." – Rebecca Bailey "God ensures our needs will be met, and we are meant to rest in His provision in a world that's often noisy and fast-paced." – Rebecca Bailey "Moving our bodies, whether stretching, walking, or running, is a way to care for God's temple, where the Spirit resides." – Rebecca Bailey Resources Advent Guide Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of the Care Ministry Podcast, host Laura Howe sits down with Pastor Tina Drysdale of Center of Hope Victory Church in Kincardine, Ontario. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of developing a care ministry in a small-town church setting, particularly in the wake of the pandemic. Tina shares how her congregation has embraced a diverse demographic, responded to community needs through practical outreach, and fostered hope and healing. Laura provides insightful guidance on building sustainable care systems, training volunteers, and balancing the many roles of a pastor in a small church. Quotes "To have a Center of Hope, we need to be able to offer hope, which ultimately is Jesus, but alongside that is being His hands and feet in practical ways." – Tina Drysdale "Care ministry is less about having the gift of compassion and more about the gift of administration. It's about coordinating, delegating, and supervising care." – Laura Howe "Hope becomes hopelessness if you don't know the way and don't have a pathway out." – Laura Howe "We took $9,000 saved for a church building and invested it back into our community during COVID, and God blessed us with a building shortly after." – Tina Drysdale "By creating different entry points for volunteers with varying capacities, you allow care to flow both ways—blessing both the giver and the receiver." – Laura Howe Resources Care Ministry Podcast, Episode 93 https://www.centreofhopevictory.com/ Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, host Laura Howe and guest Rebecca Bailey dive into the importance of strategic planning in care ministry. They discuss the evolving role of care in the church, emphasizing how intentional planning can help churches better support both congregants and the broader community without overwhelming resources. The conversation covers topics like balancing in-reach and outreach, developing volunteer capacity, and creating sustainable support structures. Rebecca also shares insights from leading a care ministry cohort, underscoring the need for clear priorities and collaboration to meet the real needs of people in crisis. Quotes "Care is more than casseroles. It's about showing up consistently and meaningfully for people, sometimes even just sitting with them." "We often forget that care ministry is not just about Sunday; it's about becoming a community hub of support and connection throughout the week." "People come to churches hoping for more than a service—they seek a family, someone to walk with them in their struggles." "A strategic care ministry knows its strengths and limitations, recognizing that no church can be a one-stop shop for every need." "If we're truly committed to caring, we need to plan for it. Otherwise, we'll end up putting out fires rather than offering meaningful support." Resources Hope Made Strong Community Care Ministry Cohort Communities of Practice Guidebook Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Whether it's a new team, a church transition, or some other circumstance, care teams are often left to piece together how to create a sustainable and helpful system for creating cultures of care. Today, Janelle and Katie share their experience entering into the Care Ministry Cohort, where the community, helpful resources, and coaching made all the difference. You can apply for the 2025 Care Ministry Cohort, beginning in January, and begin a guided journey toward cultivating a culture of care at your church! Quotes The cohort came at the perfect time. It is ok to be patient and wait. We're not trying to start from the ground up. But we're trying to renovate. The cohort did a great job of starting at the basics. We don't want cookie-cutter care ministries. We want care ministries that look and feel like your congregation. Resources CareMinistryCohort.com Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode, Pastor Trent Kirkland, from Zion Church in Clarion, Pennsylvania, shares his experience hosting the first local Church Mental Health Summit in North America. Pastor Trent discusses his personal journey with mental health, how his daughter's eating disorder and his experience as a mobile crisis worker shaped his understanding of the mental health crisis, and the steps his church took to address it in their community. He highlights the importance of building collaborative relationships between the faith community and human services, and how hosting the summit fostered these connections. The conversation also covers how local churches can become safe spaces for mental health support through awareness, training, and partnerships. Quotes "I was a pastor for a number of years who didn't think about mental health issues because it wasn't staring me in the face." "As a parent, an eating disorder gets your attention." "One of the things that made the event a success was the balance between local and national speakers, adding so much credibility to the whole event." "The ultimate solution for human flourishing is Jesus, but we also need to address mental health practically." "I wanted human service agencies to know that the faith community values what they do." Resources https://www.churchmentalhealthsummit.com/host https://www.zionlife.com/ Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode, Laura and Rebecca discuss how to maximize the benefits of the upcoming Church Mental Health Summit, offering practical tips for attendees, including registering early to avoid last-minute technical issues and organizing watch parties for community engagement. They also highlight the advantages of the all-access and ultimate passes, which provide ongoing value through access to summit content for volunteer and staff development. Rebecca shares ideas for involving church communities and sponsors in making the most of the summit, while Laura emphasizes the importance of intentional participation to fully absorb the content. Quotes “I love our summit. You get the packet that you can download, and you can go through and highlight all the things you want and get super excited about." - Rebecca Bailey “If you have the capacity to get the all-access pass, please know it's our heart's desire that you use that over and over in your church—for volunteer training, staff discussions, and watch parties.” - Laura Howe “We don't want people to feel left hanging. This could be a great opportunity to kick off a think tank in your community or start a cohort for ongoing discussions.” - Rebecca Bailey “Set your intention, be present, schedule your time, and engage with the online community to fully participate.” - Laura Howe Resources Church Mental Health Summit All-access Pass Ultimate Pass Care Ministry Cohorts Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of the Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe sits down with Daniel Whitehead, CEO of Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries, for an insightful conversation. Daniel shares his journey from leading a church in England to facing emotional burnout, which led him to pursue studies in theology and mental health. Together, they talk about the pressures of leadership, the power of vulnerability, and how meaningful friendships can make a difference in mental health. Don't miss Daniel at our upcoming Church Mental Health Summit, and tune in for a special course his organization offers! It's all in today's episode! Quotes "Mental health is something we all have, and there are seasons of flourishing and languishing for all people. We're just going to help churches begin conversations." – Daniel Whitehead "God isn't scared of us bringing our stories into His story. That's actually what we're meant to do." – Daniel Whitehead "The church should be famous as the safest place for someone to recover, wherever Christ is Lord." – Daniel Whitehead "The pain of isolation is more than the pain of the diagnosis itself. If only there was a community in every town that just knew how to love people really well." – Daniel Whitehead "You can turn up on a Sunday, you can preach, you can do the things, but actually be really languishing and struggling internally." – Daniel Whitehead "It's hard to admit that you're fallible... but it's the only way to stay healthy." – Laura Howe Resources Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries Key Ministry Church Mental Health Summit Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode, Laura Howe speaks with Pastor Chris and Samantha from Grace Family Church in Tampa, Florida. They discuss the unique dynamics of their multi-campus church, the challenges of growing a culture of care, and their plans to utilize the Church Mental Health Summit as a tool for staff training. Pastor Chris shares his 13 years of experience in care ministry and how Grace Family Church has expanded from one to eight campuses. The conversation dives into the importance of resourcing their care teams and the exciting potential of integrating mental health training for their staff. Samantha, a care ministry coordinator, highlights the significance of building a culture of care that resonates with their diverse congregation. Together, they reflect on the church's mission to grow disciples and equip leaders, emphasizing that care is a central part of their strategy. Quotes “Care is one of those foxholes... when the real difficult stuff shows up, people can't wait to find the care pastor.” “Care is not just one size fits all... we really want to create strong and healthy disciples to carry out the mission of care.” “The local church becoming a safe space for people to feel like they belong is the hope of our community.” “We're not building roads anymore; we're building signs to help people find the care they need.” Resources Grace Family Church Care page Grace Family Church (CPR) Church Mental Health Summit Guide Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In a new segment of this podcast with guest, Rebecca Bailey, we're exploring the benefits of creating a Community of Practice within your church. Listen in for tips on how shared experiences, knowledge, and support lead to stronger, more effective care ministries. Laura and Rebecca also share about the best way to put the new Hope Made Strong Online Community into practice–during the Church Mental Health Summit! Plus, learn about the new Coaching with Care segment and how you can get involved! Quotes People are craving community. When we're in harmony, we're actually noticing what's happening in our body–that's in the body of Christ too. Resources Hope Made Strong Online Community Care Ministry Cohort Community of Practice Guidebook Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Melinda Moore shares her personal journey from aspiring to be a medical doctor to finding her passion in suicidology and suicide prevention. Her experience with loss and her work in clinical psychology have driven her to integrate lived experience with clinical practice, emphasizing the importance of empathy and personal insight in mental health support. Melinda highlights the role faith communities can play in suicide prevention by providing spiritual and peer support, advocating for open conversations about mental health, and addressing stigma. She also discusses her upcoming conference, "Addressing Mental Health and Suicide in Communities and Congregations," which aims to educate clergy and faith leaders on these issues, with the goal of bridging the gap between clinical knowledge and faith-based support. Quotes As I grew stronger, I was then able to make choices that were based upon not just my own personal preferences, but also what I thought God had in mind for me. This experience of loss…got me curious about why we weren't talking about suicide. Churches are full of people who have gone through suffering and have wisdom to share. Suicidal people are ambivalent. It's not that they want to die. It's that they don't want to live in the pain that they're in. Resources Conference: Addressing Mental Health and Suicide in Communities and Congregations: A Faith-based Approach melinda.moore@eku.edu EKU Psychology Clinic After the Suicide Funeral, by Melinda Moore 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

This is our first live coaching call on the podcast! Pastor Andy and Roxann join us for a helpful conversation on proactively taking steps toward a sustainable intake of care needs. How do we make sure people's needs don't fall through the cracks? What systems will be sustainable? What specific programs and forms are the best way to triage incoming requests? Listen in for this free coaching advice! Quotes How do you find volunteers? You ask them. We want to be an incarnational church, not an attractional church. Care and discipleship run parallel to each other. When you realize you're in a community of people who are there to walk alongside you…it gives you a sense of safety. Resources Sample Care Protocol Trello Planning Center Online Cornerstone Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, host Laura Howe sits down with Sgt. Roy to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities of leading from the middle. Sgt. Roy shares his insights on the importance of making decisions with confidence, even when the outcome is uncertain. He emphasizes that it's better to make a strong mistake than to hesitate for fear of getting it wrong. With his straightforward approach, Sgt. Roy encourages leaders to show up confidently in every situation, offering practical advice for those who find themselves navigating the complexities of leadership from a middle position. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on bold decision-making and the power of confidence in leadership. Quotes One of the responsibilities of leaders is to coach, train, and mentor. Don't be afraid to make decisions. If you're going to make a mistake, make a good one. Resources Sgt Roy's website Broken Things, by Sgt Roy Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Turns out “flipping your lid” happens to the best of us! In today's episode, you'll learn about the science behind what is happening in your brain as you react to various, high-tension scenarios (fight, flight, freeze, or fawn). Knowing how to detect what your brain is doing can help you “HALT” conversations as needed when you are Hungry, Angry, Lonely, or Tired. Check out today's episode for actionable ways to not only use this in your own life but also to empower your team with healthy communication responses. Quotes It can be tough to break through the noise and get people's attention during [the fall] season. It's interesting to see how Scripture reflects God's wisdom on how to deal with anger and flipping our lids. Research has shown that to slow the amygdala response or to re-engage our logic center, we need to tell our bodies we are not in danger. When someone has flipped their lid, it's not a good time to have a logical discussion on why they are being inappropriate. Essentially, you shouldn't have any meaningful or potentially conflict-inducing conversations at the end of a workday, before you eat dinner after sitting alone in your home office after a sleepless night. Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Data can feel overwhelming and cumbersome in a church context…until you realize: “Every number has a name. Every name has a story. And every story is for God's glory.” Today we hear from Ronee De Leon, Director of Innovative Ministries at Grace Fellowship in Ohio and President of Path, a program that transforms your church data into discipleship. This conversation will help you discover the many benefits of using data to equip your staff to shepherd your church. Help prevent people from falling through the cracks. Don't be satisfied when someone is walking alone. Offer care that is intentional and strategic. You can find tools and context for how to do this in today's episode! Quotes You can't change what you don't measure. If you truly believe that discipleship is happening in the activities and programs of your church, then it absolutely is worth understanding who is taking steps to engage in those activities and also understand as they disengage in those activities. Every data point that the church gathers is a soul. Every number has a name. Every name has a story. And every story is for God's glory. People don't accidentally drift back into church. Resources Pathengagement.com/hopemadestrong Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

If you were to list the ways your care ministry might benefit from improvements, it could get overwhelming quickly. There is always room to get better! Today, we're encouraging you to focus on one of three main care ministry protocols. Laura sets up a systematic approach to improving how you receive, respond, or record. Learn how to minimize feelings of helplessness, hopelessness, and stress as you create systems around what matters most! Then watch your impact multiply (without multiplying burnout)! Quotes There is less clutter and chaos when we create systems. A good system hides in the background and supports the team. You need to document what care took place so that the church, caregiver, and congregant are protected. Resources Model of Care download Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

“God made us in community for community.” As a society, we don't always experience the kind of community God intended. This is why we need to be aware of the ways in which we can cultivate a safe and deep community with others! Today, David Kim, discipleship and formation pastor at WestGate Church in Silicon Valley, California, and author of Made To Belong gives us five practices to build this kind of community we crave. Quotes We are tired of shallow conversations and relationships. God made us in community for community. Humans are known for hiding ourselves. If we continue to hide, how can we be known? Resources David Kim on Instagram https://www.westgatechurch.org/ Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Today, we're thrilled to welcome Dr. Jackie Perry to the podcast! Dr. Perry is a seasoned Clinical Mental Health Counselor and Supervisor, a Counseling Professor, and the Founder and President of The SoulWell Center, a non-profit organization in Western North Carolina. She shares valuable insights into honing the essential skill of listening. Discover how lay leaders can provide supportive and even preventative care through effective listening in today's episode! Quotes Good clinicians are integrating the “why” into the work they do. We don't know how to do connection very well globally. The brain is good at anticipating…It's not very good at sitting and waiting. It takes some work to get to what's underneath. We don't need to be afraid of the science. Learn how to engage a story so people can feel seen and known. Resources The Attuned Listener Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

The show today is a flashback to one of the amazing sessions at our 2023 Church Mental Health Summit with Kristen Humiston. Kristen and her family know what it's like to be blindsided by an elder board and congregation's decision to end their ministry as pastor. She knows firsthand the feeling of pouring your heart and soul into a community only to be met with abuse and malice. Church hurt isn't only something she has studied, but it's something that she has lived. Quotes It was a death that no one wanted to acknowledge and we couldn't talk about… God sees you, and He is already acting on your behalf to bring in healing. As a body of Christ, we have the opportunity to be healers of the broken, even when they are our shepherds among us. No one can define what is traumatic for another person, nor can anyone dictate when it's time to move on. Resources https://theministrywifecoach.com/ The Ministry Wife Coach Facebook page The Ministry Wife Coach Instagram page Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In one of our most-viewed sessions from the 2023 Church Mental Health Summit, Debra Fileta, a Licensed Professional Counselor, relationship expert, national speaker, and founder of the Debra Fileta Counselor's Network, talks about the progression from thoughts to feelings to behaviors. As we take inventory of our thoughts, understand our emotions, and then trust what is true about God, we can experience the ways in which God desires to heal us. Quotes Just because you're a Christian doesn't mean you have to be “okay.” It's ok not to be ok, but it's not ok to stay there. We've got to put in the work for emotional and mental health. We need to remind our body that Jesus wins in the end. Our feelings are a signal cluing us into what's happening below. Feelings are real, but they aren't always true. Resources Are You Really Ok?, by Debra Fileta Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Today, you're getting access to one of our most-viewed sessions from the 2023 Church Mental Health Summit. Dr. David Anderson is the Founder and President of Gracism Global, host of "Real Talk with Dr. David Anderson," and Founder/Lead Pastor of Bridgeway Community Church in Maryland. He is also an author and speaker. His session, called “I Will Heal With You,” gives us helpful ways to practice empathy with those who are hurting. Quotes “I will heal with you.” If I can feel with you, then I can heal with you. You are helping people with their mental “fender benders.” Resources Gracism: The Art of Inclusion, by Dr. David Anderson Gracism Global Instagram - @andersonspeaks Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

As we do our best to navigate the ups and downs of those dealing with mental health struggles, it's always good to be reminded that your church is already the best place to offer three core needs: belonging, purpose, and hope. Today, we're specifically hearing how the local church can offer hope in three ways. We're discovering why the ministry of your church cannot be replaced by any other organization to meet this need. Quotes [Hope] is central to one's well-being, and yet, no system or community organization has the capacity to help people find it. As ministry caregivers, we can both be the holders of hope AND invite people to look to God as the giver of hope. God designed us to need what is offered organically in our local church. Belonging, Purpose, and Hope. Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Belonging, purpose, and hope. These are the three core needs every person brings with them when they enter the doors of your church. Are we meeting these needs? Today, Laura encourages us to ask the question, How does my church help people feel valuable? Listen in for three ways your church can practically support people and intentionally help them feel purpose. Quotes We are hardwired to have this sense of accomplishment–to crave being a part of something bigger than ourselves. We are to offer dignity and strengthen the purpose of every person who engages in their church. Every person is created with value and intention. Our care ministries need to be as unique as the people we serve. Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

Your church is equipped to be a place of belonging for those in your community. Before people believe in Jesus, they often experience belonging within a church family. And like the innkeeper in the story of the Good Samaritan, we have the opportunity in our churches to create a space where people can heal, regardless of their status. Today, we're talking about three ways to create a culture of belonging in your church. Quotes Every person is looking for a safe community to belong to. God designed the local church to meet this unique need [of belonging]. Your church…is perfectly suited and equipped to create a safe community that people can belong to. Resources Mental Health Sunday resources Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

“I can't change what has happened to me…but I can use it to help somebody else.” Today's guest, Ike Miller, is an author and pastor who shares his experience of the impacts of growing up with a parent with an addiction to alcohol. As he unpacks his story, we discover the beauty of God's redemption, using our hurts and struggles for His glory. Now, Ike encourages others through his book, Good Baggage, to discover the same redemption. Quotes Once we share our lives with people…it actually makes people aware of that pain so they can come to our care. I can't change what has happened to me…but I can use it to help somebody else. There's a lot of fear behind the idea of acknowledging I don't have control. There are things that happen to us because of others' sin, but that is not beyond God's ability to do something good with it. Resources Good Baggage, by Ike Miller Ike Miller's website Supportive Relationships and Active Skill-Building Strengthen the Foundations of Resilience ACEs and Toxic Stress: Frequently Asked Questions Codependent No More, by Melody Beattie Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

The church has a choice to make on how to support those struggling with mental health, depression, suicidal thoughts, and more. Today's interview with Fred Eaton is incredibly helpful to gain perspective on how to do this well. Listen in for insights on Fred's dynamic story and how the church can get better at caring for those struggling. There is freedom and hope on the other side of caring well. Quotes If you put up barriers so you don't get hurt, you also put up your barriers so you can't be loved. I went through a period of not being able to feel much. I can't externalize all the blame. I have to deal with some stuff in me. I was a slave to my habits and my desires. The first time I heard the Gospel I knew that I knew that that was my only hope. Resources Dial or text 988 for a suicide helpline. Living Works Faith The Body Keeps the Score, by Bessel A. van der Kolk Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

“My power is made perfect in weakness…” This reminder in 2 Corinthians 12:9 of God's ability to use us in our weakness is on full display in today's episode. We get to hear from Tony Roberts who shares his powerful story of a flourishing ministry life while struggling with a diagnosis of Bipolar 1 with psychotic features. Listen in for debunking a few myths about these diagnoses. And be encouraged by the fruitful ways God uses us in our weaknesses. Quotes Leaders can struggle. I received tremendous support while I was juggling this bipolar diagnosis. Many more people suffer rejection…but that was not my story…it can be done. It has been done. Resources When Despair Meets Delight, by Tony Roberts Hope For Troubled Minds, by Tony Roberts https://delightindisorder.org/ Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

“If I had to guess…I'm not alone here in my struggle.” One of the ways our guest on today's episode, Boston Bachert, connects with his audience is through his juggling, circus, illusion, and comedy performances. But another way is through sharing his story of being diagnosed with Tourettes at the age of seven. People who walk away from Boston's performances feel seen, heard, and not alone. Listen to today's episode for encouragement on the importance of peer support amid our anxieties and struggles. Your encouragement can make a difference. Quotes If I had to guess, I'm not alone here with [my] struggle. I would never be a performer if it wasn't for Christian mentors involved in my life. Don't give as much influence to what other people say. Don't put pressure on things to be perfect. Resources https://www.bostonbachert.com/ Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Tiffany Burns, a Certified Financial Coach dedicated to reshaping your financial narrative! With an impressive track record of paying off $91,000 in debt within three years, elevating her credit score from poor to excellent, and diligently saving and investing for her children's futures while still savoring life's pleasures, Tiffany unveils strategies for cultivating abundance through mindful financial management. Press play on this episode to uncover all the invaluable insights she shares. Host Information Website Instagram Podcast Instagram Guest Information Website Instagram

Robert Crosby, PhD and Rev. Kayla Smith join us on today's episode. As Executive Director and Associate Director, respectively, for Reach Hurting Kids Institute, Dr. Crosby and Pastor Kayla give insight into the power of trauma-informed care for children in churches. With a blend of three lenses–pastoral, research, and therapy–Reach Hurting Kids Institute provides helpful resources for churches to reframe the mindset when experiencing common behavioral challenges in children. There is a deeper opportunity for care. Listen in to hear how your team can “train your eyes to see something different.” Quotes The kids of our churches and communities need people who can respond well. [Behavior] is a communication of what is lacking. [Trauma-informed care] softens our hearts toward the kids we usually see as a pain. Resources Trauma-Informed Children's Ministry The Reach Hurting Kids Workshop Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube

There's a recipe for burnout: It includes hopelessness, helplessness, and stress. Today, we're digging into the nuances of each of these burnout signs, but we're also discussing the keys to help along with resources to point you back in the right direction. Learn about the difference between compassion fatigue and burnout plus steps to take when you're experiencing mild, moderate, or severe stages. Quotes Very few people have a broad vocabulary to describe feelings and emotions. This is burnout and/or compassion fatigue. It's not a sin, failure, or weakness. It's because you have deeply cared for others and have not had opportunities to refuel. I took some time off of work to get well. I know it sounds impossible. But it's necessary. Resources Episode 20 Compassion Fatigue Episode 41 Compassion Fatigue vs Burnout Finding Hope In Helping Professional Quality of Life Quiz Episode 28 When to refer someone to a professional Episode 6 7 Keys to Resilience Connect with Hope Made Strong Website: HopeMadeStrong.org Socials: Facebook – Instagram – Twitter – YouTube