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In this podcast, translator and news aggregator Kevin Rothrock talks to movers and shakers in Russia-focused journalism and academia. Interviews deal with views on trending news stories, the overarching themes of “Russia watching,” and the ins and outs of life as a professional in this field. Help him pay for Buzzsprout and recording equipment by supporting him at Patreon.

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    E136: Returning After a Long Absence for No Good Reason

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2023 33:52


    Kevin returns to run his mouth about recent events in the Russia-Ukraine world, and other stuff. Topics discussed here: Twitter ad revenue sharing Russia's new Moon mission, Luna-25 Slow counteroffensive darkens mood in Ukraine Sergey Vakulenko on the Black Sea naval war Blocking VPNs and Google services Navalny's essay from prison on Russia in the 1990s Viral videos: Alexander Dudka, the collaborationist mayor of Lazurne in the occupied Kherson region, and an argument at a playground between mothers in Krasnodar

    E135: Jade McGlynn on memory's role in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 15:44


    Today's guest is Dr. Jade McGlynn, a specialist in Russian memory and foreign policy at the Monterey Initiative in Russian Studies and the author of two books: “The Kremlin's Memory Makers” and “Russia's War.” Discussed in this interview: the Kremlin's claims that Russia is fighting an existential battle in Ukraine, how memory shapes that conversation, balancing dispassionate scholarly work and ethical advocacy, and more!

    E134: Jonny Tickle on leaving RT and returning to Russia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2022 34:17


    Today's show features an interview with Jonny Tickle, a man with an incredible name and a controversial resume, given that he worked as a writer for Russia Today — RT — right up until Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February. He left the country shortly thereafter, but he's since returned (like quite a few others), and he's even resumed his YouTube travel vlog where he visits cities across Russia and talks about the local scene and attractions. Jonny agreed to come on The Russia Guy to talk about being back in Russia, what's in store for him next, and what life is like in a country at war where you can't even call it a war. Skip to the bits you want: (1:26) Being safe in Russia today. (3:46) Why go back to Russia? (11:36) The vibe on the streets of Moscow. (19:33) Today's journalism about Russia.

    E133: Emily Holland on Boycotting Russian Oil and Gas

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 39:31


    Today's guest is Dr. Emily Holland, an assistant professor in the Russia Maritime Studies Institute at the U.S. Naval War College, where she teaches and researches subjects like the Cold War, Russia, energy politics, diplomacy, geopolitics, and more. Follow her on Twitter here. In the interview you're about to hear, Dr. Holland describes her background and the nature of her job at the Naval War College before explaining the challenges and tradeoffs inherent in the West's efforts to isolate Russia's oil and gas industries. Timestamps for this episode: (5:56) How did you get into studying Russia? (7:53) Mixing a geopolitical and cultural interest in Russia. (10:05) What is the Russia Maritime Studies Institute at the U.S. Naval War College? (14:24) The identity crisis among Russia studies scholars in the U.S. (19:25) Resistance to “strategic empathy.” (21:24) The next generation of American experts on Russia. (22:49) Expanding diversity among America's Russia scholars. (25:02) What are the tradeoffs of boycotting Russian fuel? (33:21) Cracks in the newly reinvigorated Transatlantic unity. Music: Joey Pecoraro, “Russian Dance,” and Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”

    E132: Marlene Laruelle asks Is Russia Fascist?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 27:16


    Today's guest is Dr. Marlene Laruelle, the director of Institute for European, Russian, and Eurasian Studies and the Illiberalism Studies Program at George Washington University. On this episode of The Russia Guy, Dr. Laruelle discussed her 2021 book, “Is Russia Fascist? Unraveling Propaganda East and West,” and its relevance to today's crisis in Ukraine. We focused specifically on the book's insights into Russian geopolitics and post-colonialism. Read more about the book here! Timestamps for this episode: (3:02) Is the book about Putin or Russia? (4:10) What's the role of Russian illiberalism in the current Ukraine crisis? (6:40) Why is Russia pressing its case in Ukraine at precisely this moment? (8:46) Would Russia get along better with a more illiberal Europe? (11:34) Vladimir Putin vs. Charles de Gaulle (14:59) Russia's post-imperial struggle (22:37) Normalcy for Russia vs. normalcy for the West Music and audio for "The Russia Guy": Joey Pecoraro, "Russian Dance" Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки” Oi Čorna by Yale Women's Slavic Chorus (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 US) Table Dance by The Underscore Orkestra (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 US) Support this show on Patreon!

    E131 Announcement: Five Songs with Aleksandr Gorbachev

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2022 0:57


    This is to notify listeners of a special installment of The Russia Guy that utilizes “Music + Talk,” Anchor's Spotify integration, for a music-focused episode featuring music journalist Aleksandr Gorbachev, who selected five recent Russian songs that signify for him the state of affairs and everyday life in Russia now. The episode is available exclusively on Spotify here and on Telegram here.

    E130: Nikolaus von Twickel on the Donbas War

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2022 30:30


    This episode's guest is Nikolaus von Twickel, a journalist-turned-analyst who specializes on the war in eastern Ukraine. He is now an editor at the Center for Liberal Modernity in Berlin, and he previously served as a media liaison officer for the OSCE Monitoring Mission in Donetsk. In 2020, he co-authored a book with Thomas de Waal called “Beyond Frozen Conflict: Scenarios for the Separatist Disputes of Eastern Europe,” which looks at the Donbas, Transdniestria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Nagorny Karabakh. Follow Nikolaus on Twitter! Timestamps for this episode: (2:22) Welcome back and introduction (6:13) Nikolaus explains why he thinks Russia has mobilized its troops outside Ukraine (8:45) Is it nonsense for Russia to claim that Kyiv is considering an assault on the Donbas? (15:49) Is Minsk II the only way forward diplomatically in the Donbas or is it now a dead agreement? (19:36) Is Zelensky still viewed in the West as pragmatic? (22:17) Can Russia claim to defend the interests of people in the Donbas if the breakaway “republics” are police states? (28:48) Outro and closing plug for donations! Music and audio for "The Russia Guy": Joey Pecoraro, "Russian Dance" Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки” Support the show at Patreon!

    E129: Elena Chernenko

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2021 32:48


    Elena Chernenko, a special correspondent at the newspaper Kommersant who focuses on cybersecurity, non-proliferation, and arms control, joins the show to talk about arriving at foreign-affairs journalism, navigating Russia's contemporary media environment, and staying sane in an increasingly crazy world.Follow her on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Joey Pecoraro, "Russian Dance"Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E128 Navalny: Putin's Nemesis, Russia's Future?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2021 52:41


    On today's episode, Kevin speaks to the scholars behind the new book “Navalny: Putin's Nemesis, Russia's Future?” The three authors: Jan Matti Dollbaum, a postdoctoral researcher at Bremen University, Morvan Lallouet, a PhD candidate at the University of Kent, and Ben Noble, a lecturer in Russian Politics at University College London.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Joey Pecoraro, "Russian Dance"Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E127: Anton Barbashin on Russia's Foreign Policy Experts

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021 34:39


    Today's show welcomes back Anton Barbashin, a political analyst focusing on Russia and the editorial director at Riddle, for a conversation about the different schools of thought and general drift and direction of foreign-policy expertise inside Russia.Follow Anton on Twitter here and read Ivan Timofeyev's Valdai Club article here (in Russian), which is cited during the interview.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Joey Pecoraro, "Russian Dance"Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E126 - Sam Greene

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2021 30:17


    Today's guest is Dr. Sam Greene, the director of the Russia Institute at King's College London and the co-author of the 2019 book “Putin V. the People: The Perilous Politics of a Divided Russia."Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Счастье вдруг (из х/ф Иван Васильевич меняет профессию)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E125: Matthew Luxmoore on Denis Karagodin's crusade in Tomsk

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 30:36


    Matthew Luxmoore, a Moscow-based correspondent for RFE/RL, discusses his March 2021 article about an amateur researcher in Tomsk named Denis Karagodin who's spent the better part of a decade compiling archival documents about the execution of his great-grandfather in 1938 by officers in the NKVD. Earlier this year, the local authorities reportedly started building a criminal case against Karagodin on defamation charges filed by the relatives of some of his grandfather's supposed executioners. Read the article at RFE/RL here and follow Matt on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Счастье вдруг (из х/ф Иван Васильевич меняет профессию)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E124: The Great Russian Oil Heist

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 19:54


    Today's guest is Sergei Khazov-Cassia, a correspondent in Moscow for RFE/RL's Russian Service. In this interview, Kevin asks Sergei about his recent investigative report on industrial-scale oil theft in Russia.Read an English-language translation of the story, “The Great Russian Oil Heist,” right here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E123: Mary Ilyushina

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2021 26:48


    Today's guest is Mary Ilyushina, a Moscow-based journalist and producer at CNN who previously worked at RBC. She's recently worked on stories like the Navalny trial and the protests in Russia, as well as in Belarus, and she was kind enough to come on this podcast to talk about her career, her upbringing, and just generally her life.Follow Mary on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E122: The Russia Guys

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2021 39:12


    Today's episode is a co-hosted news-in-review show with Canadian journalist Neil Hauer about political unrest in Yerevan (where Neil is based), Amnesty International's leaked internal decision to revoke Alexey Navalny's prisoner-of-conscience status, and Team Navalny's efforts to open a campaign office in Dagestan.Follow Neil on Twitter here and support his journalism at Patreon here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E121: Anton Barbashin

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 23:48


    This episode's guest is Anton Barbashin, the editorial director at Riddle, an online publication that focuses on Russian affairs and features some of the sharpest expert insights in the field, particularly from young specialists and scholars. From 2015 to 2018, Anton was a managing editor of Intersection, a Warsaw-based Russian affairs journal, and he's worked as an analyst at the Center for Polish-Russian Dialogue and Understanding. His writings have also appeared at Foreign Affairs, The American Interest, openDemocracy Russia, Forbes Russia, and more.Follow Anton Barbashin on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E120: Polina Ivanova on Tragedy at Star City

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2021 19:34


    Reuters special correspondent Polina Ivanova discusses her November 2020 article “The Woman Who Fell From the Sky,” about Star City (the secretive home of Russia's space program) and about the death of Natalya Lebedeva,  a doctor who found herself caught up in the confusion and panic of the pandemic's early days. Incidentally, Longform.org selected the text as one of the best science long-reads of 2020.Follow Polina on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E119: Samantha Berkhead on Reporting in Moscow

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2020 28:05


    Today's guest is Samantha Berkhead, a news editor at The Moscow Times, where she's reported on all manner of things over the past two years, including Internet memes, Tolstoy's descendants living in the sticks, witchcraft, queer culture, kinky parties (more about this in the interview), feminism, and a lot, lot more.Follow her on Twitter here and at The Moscow Times here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Счастье вдруг (из х/ф Иван Васильевич меняет профессию)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E118: Leslie Root on Russian Demography

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 31:39


    Today's guest is Dr. Leslie Root, a postdoctoral scholar in the Department of Demography at UC Berkeley. Dr. Root recently completed "Fertility in Transition in 21st-Century Russia," a dissertation on childbearing and fertility changes over the course of the Putin era in Russia. Follow Leslie on Twitter here, and visit her website here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Счастье вдруг (из х/ф Иван Васильевич меняет профессию)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E117: Alex Kliment on Political Risk and Puppets

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2020 38:17


    Today's guest is Alex Kliment, the creative director at GZERO Media, Eurasia Group's global-politics-oriented independent media spinoff, where he directs “Puppet Regime,” a political satire puppet series. Additionally, Alex is the senior editor of Eurasia Group's global politics newsletter, “Signal.” Alex also composes film scores, and he's put that musical talent to work for GZERO, as well.Follow Alex on Twitter here and watch "Puppet Regime" on YouTube here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Счастье вдруг (из х/ф Иван Васильевич меняет профессию)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E116: Jack Stubbs on Russian Outreach to the U.S. Right Wing

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2020 27:01


    Today's guest is Jack Stubbs, the European cybersecurity correspondent at the news agency Reuters and previously a correspondent in Russia and Ukraine. About a week ago, on October 1, 2020, Jack authored an exclusive story at Reuters, titled “Russian Operation Masqueraded as Right-Wing News Site to Target U.S. Voters,” about people connected to the infamous Internet Research Agency — that troll factory founded by Evgeny Prigozhin — running a fake news outlet designed to target right-wing voters with inflammatory political messaging ahead of this year's U.S. presidential election. According to sources familiar with an FBI probe, this is the right-wing version of a nearly identical project that targeted American leftists called Peace Data. Follow Jack Stubbs on Twitter here and read his work at Reuters here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Alexandr Kuzminyh, CC BY license, "TOP 12 CARTOONS ON THE GUITAR (SOVIET CARTOONS)"Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Thinking Music by Kevin MacLeod / Link / LicenseThe Bandit by Kevin MacLeod / Link / LicenseSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E115: Ben Aris

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2020 33:41


    Today's guest is Ben Aris, the editor-in-chief of bne IntelliNews, a media outlet he pioneered that reports on business news and data from emerging markets. Ben spent many years as a foreign correspondent in Eastern Europe, and he's been covering Russia since 1993, with stints in the Baltics and Central Asia. He co-founded bne and is a former Moscow bureau chief for The Daily Telegraph and was a contributing editor at The Banker and Euromoney for a decade.Follow Ben Aris on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Alexandr Kuzminyh, CC BY license, "TOP 12 CARTOONS ON THE GUITAR (SOVIET CARTOONS)"Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E114: Bryan MacDonald

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2020 52:37


    Bryan MacDonald, the head of the online Russia desk at the English-language edition of Russia Today, or RT, joins “The Russia Guy” to discuss his career in journalism and his views on Alexey Navalny, Western reporting, and Russian politics.Follow him on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E113: Anna Arutunyan

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2020 36:02


    Today's guest is Anna Arutunyan, a Russian-American analyst and writer and the author of “The Putin Mystique: Inside Russia's Power Cult” (2014) and “The Media in Russia” (2009) and the co-author of “Freedom, Repression, and Private Property in Russia” (2013). Her work has been published all over the place, and one of her most recent articles was released on August 5 in the magazine Foreign Affairs, titled “There Is No Russian Plot Against America.” Follow Anna on Twitter here!Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Thinking Music by Kevin MacLeod / Link / LicenseThe Bandit by Kevin MacLeod / Link / LicenseSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E112: Tara Reade

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2020 33:39


    Today's guest is Tara Reade, the former staff assistant in Joe Biden's Senate office, who earlier this year accused Biden of sexually assaulting her back in 1993 when she was in her late 20s. Ms. Reade has faced significant criticism not just for her allegations against Joe Biden, but also for her past statements about Russia and Vladimir Putin, which some commentators seem to believe constitute “possible Russia connections” in line with the collusion theory that Donald Trump conspired with Moscow to defeat Hillary Clinton. Ms. Reade has been asked about her views on Russia before, but not in much detail. That changes here.For more reading about Tara Reade's allegations against Joe Biden, see the following sources:Megyn Kelly: The MK Interview: Tara ReadeCurrent Affairs: "Tara Reade Tells Her Story" (Katie Halper's interview)Democracy Now! “It Shattered My Life”: Former Joe Biden Staffer Tara Reade Says He Sexually Assaulted Her in 1993Business Insider: A former neighbor of Joe Biden's accuser Tara Reade has come forward to corroborate her sexual-assault account, saying Reade discussed the allegations in detail in the mid-1990sNew York Times: "Tara Reade's Tumultuous Journey to the 2020 Campaign"Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E111: Rob Lee on the Russian Mercs in Minsk

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2020 26:14


    Today's guest is Rob Lee, a doctoral student in the Department of War Studies at King's College London, a former Alfa Fellow, and an ex-Marine. Rob joins "The Russia Guy" to talk about the 33 Russian nationals arrested in Belarus on July 29, 2020. Officials in Minsk say the men are mercenaries from the “Wagner” private military company (PMC) who planned to incite riots ahead of the presidential election. Russian diplomats have identified the suspects as private security guards who were merely passing through Belarus.Follow Rob's excellent monitoring work on Twitter here.Music and audio for "The Russia Guy":Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E110: Nina Jankowicz on How to Lose the Information War

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2020 39:03


    Today's show welcomes back Wilson Center Disinformation Fellow Nina Jankowicz, who first appeared on this podcast way back in December 2017. She's back now to discuss her new book, How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News, and the Future of Conflict, which "takes the reader on a journey through five Western governments' responses to Russian information warfare tactics" (Estonia, Georgia, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine) and "shows what is at stake: the future of civil discourse and democracy, and the value of truth itself."Order the book here from the publisher or at Amazon, and follow Nina on Twitter here.Music and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E109: Andras Toth-Czifra on Arresting Khabarovsk's Governor

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2020 24:41


    Today's show looks at the case against Khabarovsk Governor Sergey Furgal, whom federal agents arrested on Thursday, July 9, and promptly flew him to Moscow where he was arraigned on charges that he organized violence (including several contract killings) against business rivals in 2004 and 2005.Today's guest is András Tóth-Czifra, a political analyst based in New York and the author of the No Yardstick blog, where he's written for almost 10 years about Russian politics, often focusing on the country's more remote regions.Music and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Thinking Music by Kevin MacLeod / Link / LicenseSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E108: Alec Luhn on Environmental Reporting in Russia

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2020 31:11


    A freelance journalist in Moscow with bylines in The Guardian, The Telegraph, Foreign Policy, The Nation, Politico, and more, guest Alec Luhn discusses reporting Russia's Arctic and journalism about environmentalism more broadly. How do you sell Western readers on these themes? What does it take to get to remote areas where the climate crisis is most destructive? Listen and find out.Follow Alec Luhn on Twitter here.Music and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E107: Yuval Weber on Russia's Political Economy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2020 44:49


    Today's guest is Yuval Weber, the Kennan Institute Associate Professor of Russian and Eurasian Studies. He was also the inaugural Daniel Morgan Graduate School-Kennan Institute fellow and previously taught at Harvard University as a Visiting Assistant Professor in the Department of Government. Dr. Weber is working on a book now that asks why pro-market economic reform efforts in Russia follow similar trajectories even among very different types of government like monarchy, communism, and “sovereign democracy.”Check out his DMGS bio here and follow him on Twitter here.Music and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14Олег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки”The Bandit by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4483-the-banditLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Thinking Music by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4522-thinking-musicLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E106: Michael Schwirtz on Journalism and the NYT's Pulitzer Prize

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2020 33:40


    On today's show, “The Russia Guy” welcomes Michael Schwirtz, a journalist from The New York Times staff who just won a Pulitzer Prize for international reporting. The award was granted for “a set of enthralling stories, reported at great risk, exposing the predations of Vladimir Putin's regime.” The newspaper's winning work includes six articles and two documentary videos published in 2019. Now an investigative reporter with The New York Times, Michael has been with the newspaper for 14 years, having started in the Moscow bureau and then working at the Metro Desk, first covering the New York City Policy Department, then as part of Metro's investigative team, reporting about brutality and corruption in the New York State prison system and at Rikers Island in New York City. The four winning works that Michael authored or co-authored are the following:“Russia Ordered a Killing That Made No Sense. Then the Assassin Started Talking.””Top Secret Russian Unit Seeks to Destabilize Europe, Security Officials Say”* “How Russia Meddles Abroad for Profit: Cash, Trolls and a Cult Leader”* “How a Poisoning in Bulgaria Exposed Russian Assassins in Europe”You can read them all here:https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/staff-new-york-timesFollow Michael Schwirtz on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/mschwirtzSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E105: Miriam Elder

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2020 23:43


    Today's guest is Miriam Elder, a political reporter at BuzzFeed, where until recently she worked for many years as the world editor. Before that, she was the Russia correspondent for The Guardian, and her work has been featured in many other publications, including The Financial Times, The Atlantic, The Moscow Times, and more. Miriam is also the first Western journalist who reported extensively on Pussy Riot. She was kind enough to come on this podcast and answer some questions about life in Moscow, life as an editor, and the ups and downs of writing about Russia.Follow Miriam Elder on Twitter:https://twitter.com/MiriamElderFollow Miriam's reported at BuzzFeed:https://www.buzzfeednews.com/author/miriamelderSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQModern Jazz Samba by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4063-modern-jazz-sambaLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E104: Brian O'Toole on Russian Medical Supplies for NYC

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2020 21:25


    Today's guest is Brian O'Toole, a senior fellow in the Global Business and Economics Program at the Atlantic Council. Brian previously worked at the U.S. Treasury Department from 2009 to 2017, becoming a senior adviser to the director of the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). As a senior adviser, Brian helped manage the implementation of all OFAC-administered economic and financial sanctions programs, and provided strategic direction of the internal management of the agency. He additionally played a central role in designing the U.S. sanctions regime in response to Russia's aggression in Ukraine and negotiating the multilateral sanctions imposed by the European Union and G7 in coordination with the United States.Brian came on “The Russia Guy” to discuss the recent shipment of Russian medical supplies to New York City and the geopolitical scandal that erupted as a result.Brian O'Toole at the Atlantic Council:https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/brian-o-toole/“A Mystery Wrapped In An Enigma Inside A Russian Coronavirus Aid Shipment To The U.S.,” By Mike Eckel:https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-coronavirus-aid-shipment-u-s-mystery-sanctions-propaganda/30529019.htmlSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQWalking Along by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4603-walking-alongLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/The Bandit by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4483-the-banditLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E103: Jill Dougherty

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2020 34:51


    Today's guest is Jill Dougherty, a Russia expert who worked as a journalist at CNN for 30 years before shifting to work in academia. At CNN, she served as a White House correspondent, a foreign affairs correspondent covering the U.S. State Department, as a U.S. affairs editor, a managing editor for CNN Asia/Pacific, and for almost a decade as Moscow Bureau chief. Jill was kind enough to come on this podcast to discuss her many years in this field, how she's seen it change and evolve over time, and what she makes of Russia's past, present, and future. She also explained her new podcast for the Wilson Center, “KennanX.” Jill Dougherty on Twitter:https://twitter.com/jillrussiaThe KennanX podcast:https://www.wilsoncenter.org/collection/kennanx-podcastSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQThinking Music by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4522-thinking-musicLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/The Bandit by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4483-the-banditLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E102: The Russian Defense Policy Blog

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2020 30:22


    Today's guest is the man behind one of the longest-running, best Russia blogs ever written. If you've even a fleeting interest in Russia's military, you've probably read the Russian Defense Policy blog at least once, and on today's episode of The Russia Guy, you can finally hear from the author, who asked to remain anonymous, which is how he's always maintained his blog, of course. How do you sustain a blog for more than a decade? Where do you go for information to maintain expertise on an issue like Russian defense policy? Is open-source intelligence the future? This and more in the interview.The blog:https://russiandefpolicy.blog/ Follow Russian Defense Policy on Twitter:https://twitter.com/russiandefpolicSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E101: Anton Troianovski on the USSR's Bernie Sanders Files

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2020 16:08


    Today's guest is New York Times Moscow correspondent Anton Troianovski, the author of the March 6, 2020, article, “As Bernie Sanders Pushed for Closer Ties, Soviet Union Spotted Opportunity,” which addresses previously unreported archival documents uncovered in Yaroslavl, where Sanders traveled in 1988 in a combination of civic diplomacy and his own honeymoon. The story has been provocative among many Sanders's supporters, so here's Troianovski explaining why he wrote it.The article itself:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/world/europe/bernie-sanders-soviet-russia.html“Excerpts from the Sanders Files in a Russian Archive”https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/world/europe/sanders-russia-excerpts-archive.htmlSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E100: Julia Ioffe on Journalism and Writing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2020 42:46


    On The Russia Guy's 100th episode, today's guest is Julia Ioffe, now a correspondent at GQ Magazine, a former Moscow-based reporter, a prominent public figure in both academic settings and cable news, and the author of an upcoming book about Russia. In the interview you're about to hear, Julia talks about the steps that led her to journalism, the differences of working with official sources in Moscow and Washington, D.C., what it's like to have a personal connection to the news, and the highs and lows of life as a writer.Follow Julia on Twitter:https://twitter.com/juliaioffeRead her stories at GQ:https://www.gq.com/contributor/julia-ioffeSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E99: Oliver Carroll on Reporting From the ‘Heart of Darkness'

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2020 37:23


    Today's guest is Oliver Carroll, the Moscow correspondent for the British newspaper “The Independent.” Ollie has lived in and reported from Moscow and Kyiv for more than a decade, he's back in the Russian capital now, and he was kind enough to come on this podcast to discuss the latest political shakeup in the Russian government and the constitutional amendments, as well as his long career reporting from Russia, Ukraine, and the war-torn Donbas.Follow Ollie on Twitter:https://twitter.com/olliecarrollRead his work at The Independent:https://www.independent.co.uk/author/oliver-carrollSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E98: Elizaveta Fokht on Russian Troll Journalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2020 27:57


    Today's guest is Elizaveta Fokht, a journalist the BBC's Russian-language service, who's also reported for Russian news outlets like Dozhd and RBK. Earlier this month, she and her colleague, Andrey Zakharov, wrote a spectacular story about a new media holding company called “Patriot,” which unites several websites with connections to Evgeny Prigozhin, the Russian catering magnate (who also dabbles in media, mercenaries, and God knows what else).Read their report (in Russian) here:https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-50632900Read an English-language summary at Meduza here:https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/12/04/why-so-negativeFollow Elizaveta on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/lizafohtSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E97: Lincoln Pigman on Russian Cybersecurity

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2019 30:15


    Today's guest is Lincoln Pigman, a Master's graduate student at Oxford University and a research fellow at the Foreign Policy Center. He's written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, and many other outlets, usually about Russian cyberspace. About a year ago, he wrote an article in the Journal of Cyber Policy, titled “Russia's Vision of Cyberspace: A Danger to Regime Security, Public Safety, and Societal Norms and Cohesion.”Follow Lincoln on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/lincolnpigmanSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E96: Ariel Cohen on Political Risk in Russia

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2019 27:35


    Today's guest is Ariel Cohen, a scholar focusing on political risk, international security and energy policy, and the rule of law, working as a specialist on Russia, Eurasia, Eastern Europe, and the Middle East. He's currently a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, the director of the Energy, Growth, and Security Program at the International Tax and Investment Center (which promotes tax reform and public-private initiatives to improve the investment climate in transition and developing economies), and he's a columnist at Forbes.Ariel talked at length about growing up in the Soviet Union, and how his childhood experiences inform his thinking to this day, not just about Russia, but about human nature and geopolitics. And he discussed conditions in the U.S. foreign service these days, where he says the demise of regional studies has done serious damage. Also, he talked about how he came to political risk analysis.Follow Dr. Cohen on Twitter:https://twitter.com/Dr_Ariel_CohenSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E95: Olesya Vartanyan on South Caucasus Breakaway Regions

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2019 25:15


    Today's guest is Olesya Vartanyan, Crisis Group's analyst for the “EU Eastern Neighbourhood.” Based in Tbilisi, she researches and produces reports on regional security issues in Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan, with a particular focus on breakaway regions in the South Caucasus. She told Kevin what it's like to go from a career in journalism to the world of professional analysis, and let him ask her ignorant questions about the region.Follow her on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/Olesya_vArtFind her Crisis Group expert page here:https://www.crisisgroup.org/who-we-are/people/olesya-vartanyanSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E94: Gasan Gusejnov on the ‘Miserable and Foul Russian Language'

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2019 16:16


    Today's guest is Gasan Gusejnov, a linguistics professor at Moscow's Higher School of Economics. Many people in Russia are learning about him right now because of a Facebook post he shared on October 29, where he complained that Russians show too little interest in other languages. He said specifically that newsstands in Moscow — a city with hundreds of thousands of ethnicities besides Russian — offer only publications in “the miserable and foul Russian language.” He also argued that Russians try to justify their aversion to other languages as the privilege of a “great power,” but this insularity, he says, is actually the result of Russia's “barbarity.” The Facebook post led to a national scandal, including threats and even a whole segment on pro-Kremlin pundit Dmitry Kiselyov's network TV show. Gasan discussed the issue and why he thinks so many have reacted so harshly.https://www.hse.ru/en/org/persons/72525472Support this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E93: Tikhon Dzyadko on Russian Journalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2019 18:49


    Today's guest is Tikhon Dzyadko, a journalist who's worked for Russia's top independent radio and television broadcasters, Ekho of Moscow and TV Rain, or Dozhd, and he's now deputy director of news programs at TV station broadcast online in Russia, RTVI. Tikhon talked to Kevin about how he got into journalism, the challenges facing independent reporters in Russia (specifically when it comes to sources), and what he thinks about Russia reporting in the United States.Follow him on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/tikhondzyadko Check out his reporting at RTVI here:https://rtvi.com/team/tikhon-dzyadko/Support this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E92: Government Phone Lines in Russia

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2019 12:53


    On today's episode, Kevin reflects briefly on his first trip to Moscow in seven years, and reviews a new investigative report by Meduza about special government communications services issued by Russia's Federal Protective Service — and why nobody actually uses them.Read the article here:https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/10/09/nobody-s-homeSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E91: Alina Polyakova on Exporting Digital Authoritarianism

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2019 39:48


    Today's show welcomes back Dr. Alina Polyakova, a fellow at the Brookings Institute, an adjunct professor of European studies at Johns Hopkins University, and a specialist in far-right populism and nationalism, and Russian foreign policy. Last month, Alina and her colleague, Chris Meserole, wrote a policy brief for Brookings, titled “Exporting Digital Authoritarianism: The Russian and Chinese Models,” where they say Russia, China, and other states are using high-tech means to expand their influence around the world, and they argue that the United States and other democracies need to take action to limit the effects of these efforts. Read the paper here:https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/FP_20190827_digital_authoritarianism_polyakova_meserole.pdfFollow Dr. Polyakova on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/apolyakovaSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E90: Mike Eckel on the Beslan School Siege

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2019 30:40


    Today's episode looks back at the Beslan school siege, which took place 15 years ago this month, and claimed the lives of 334 innocent people, including 186 children. Journalist Mike Eckel, now with Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, then a correspondent with The Associated Press, reported from on the ground in Beslan during the school siege. He kindly came on this show to talk about the experience, and look back at perhaps the worst terrorist attack in Russian history.Follow Mike on Twitter:https://twitter.com/mike_eckelRead his work at RFE/RL:www.rferl.org/author/96267.htmlRead some of his reports from September 2004 for AP:https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2004/09-03/132_militants_may_be_holding_1_000_hos.htmlhttps://www.spokesman.com/stories/2004/sep/02/militants-hold-hundreds-at-russian-school-hostage/https://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/militants-at-school-release-at-least-31-hostages/Other journalists remember Beslan:https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/09/04/the-siege-through-journalists-eyesSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQHenrik Lundkvist, “Kalinka on a Balalaika,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5znHQ9QRYSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E89: Alexandra Urman on the ‘Here We Stand' Student Initiative

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2019 21:03


    Alexandra Urman, a PhD Candidate at the Institute of Communication and Media Studies, University of Bern, is one of the co-founders of the “Here We Stand” initiative, a student project created to bring attention to three university students — Egor Zhukov, Daniil Konon, and Valery Kostenyok — who were charged with rioting in Moscow for their participation in peaceful demonstrations this summer. The charges against Konon and Kostenyok were ultimately dropped, but Zhukov still faces years behind bars.Follow “Here We Stand” on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/herewestand.space/ Visit the initiative's website:http://herewestand.space/blogSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E88: Christopher Miller on Journalism and Reporting From Ukraine

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2019 49:29


    Christopher Miller, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty's Kyiv correspondent, has worked at Mashable and The Kyiv Post, and he's been published at Politico Europe, The Guardian, The Times, The Atlantic, and many other outlets. Chris is one of the stand-out foreign journalists reporting from Ukraine, and he came onto the podcast to discuss his career and talk extensively about journalism in Ukraine and Russia.Follow him on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ChristopherJMRead his work at RFE/RL:https://www.rferl.org/author/98603.htmlRead his 2015 story, titled “The War Came to Me,” where he recalls his Peace Corps service in Eastern Ukraine in the context of the war that later broke out in the Donbas:https://mashable.com/2015/01/06/the-war-came-to-me-ukraine/Support this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E87: Leonid Ragozin on Journalism and Protests

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2019 34:15


    Leonid Ragozin now writes often for Al Jazeera, and has worked in the past for the BBC, Newsweek, The Guardian, and many other outlets, reporting on Russia and Ukraine mostly. He is also co-author of the Lonely Planet Guides to Moscow, Ukraine, and several other Eastern European destinations. Earlier this month, he wrote an article titled “Putin Risks Losing Moscow.”Follow Leonid on Twitter:https://twitter.com/leonidragozinRead his recent article at Al Jazeera:https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/putin-risks-losing-moscow-190812092611425.htmlSupport this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

    E86: Matt Bodner on ‘Skyfall'

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2019 20:38


    On today's show, we welcome back Matt Bodner, a journalist in Moscow who reports primarily on national defense and the space industry. His latest article for Defense News combines these two themes, as it's about the mysterious explosion reported on Russia's northern frontier on August 8. In the article, Matt reviews the leading theories about what blew up, and he floated some bold suggestions that Russia's so-called “Skyfall” nuclear-powered missile could be an entirely fake project designed to deter the United States.Read the article here:https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/08/13/an-explosion-a-spike-in-radiation-evacuation-preparations-what-exactly-happened-in-russia/Follow Matt on Twitter here:https://twitter.com/mattb0401Support this very podcast here:www.patreon.com/kevinrothrockMusic and audio:Ну погоди, episode 14, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHd3sxpEbo&t=7sОлег Анофриев, Бременские музыканты, “Говорят, мы бяки-буки,” www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3wC7gkMDQSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/kevinrothrock)

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