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The 21st is Illinois's statewide news talk show. Produced by Illinois Public Media and airing on six NPR member stations in across Illinois.

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    Two friends channel grief into advocating for peace in Holy Land

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2026


    Palestinian Aziz Abu Sarah and Israeli Maoz Inon have written a new book called “The Future is Peace: A Shared Journey Across the Holy Land.” They discuss why they choose peace over vengeance and how their personal losses motivate their advocacy.

    Abby Cadabby’s puppeteer is married to a guy from Normal, Illinois. Here’s how they got to Sesame Street.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2026


    He's a Normal, Illinois native who went to U. of I. and ended up writing music for Sesame Street. She's the puppeteer behind Abby Cadabby — and she just won an Emmy for it. They also happen to be married. Composer Paul Rudolph and puppeteer Leslie Carrara-Rudolph joined The 21st Show to talk about what makes Abby special, how to write music for Muppets, making instruments from found objects, and how puppetry can reach children who've been through tough times.

    Do humans have a future on Mars?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2026


    It's the official policy of the U.S. government to work toward putting people on Mars. Debates about that usually focus on cost and national priorities. Less considered is what life on Mars would do to the people who go there. That, however, is the subject of a new book by scientist Scott Solomon. It's called Becoming Martian: How Living in Space Will Change Our Bodies and Minds. Solomon was raised in Champaign, attended University High in Urbana, and earned his bachelor's degree from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

    Illinois author Shelby Van Pelt on the smash success of ‘Remarkably Bright Creatures’

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2026


    Born and raised in the Pacific Northwest, novelist Shelby Van Pelt now makes her home in Wheaton, Illinois. Her debut novel, "Remarkably Bright Creatures," has been a huge hit, reportedly selling more than two million copies. It's also being made into a movie by Netflix. We'll talk with Van Pelt about her life and work.

    Why do scams work? An Illinois accountant explains

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2026


    Fraud is all around us, from pyramid schemes to spam phone calls. Illinois-based forensic accountant Kelly Richmond Pope writes about why people do it — and how we can better protect ourselves — in her book “Fool Me Once: Scams, Stories and Secrets from the Trillion Dollar Fraud Industry.”

    The true story of the Billy Goat Curse, and other tales of baseball magic

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2026


    From the BIlly Goat to the Black Sox, the idea that the Cubs and White Sox were cursed is a key part of Illinois baseball lore. Author Addy Baird explores those stories and more in her new book, The Magical Game: The Spirit and History of Baseball's Superstitions, Rituals, and Curses.

    Illinois without Cook County?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2026


    There are still people working to partition Illinois into two states — and more voters are being asked to support the idea. We'll talk with a reporter who's done a deep dive into the New Illinois movement.

    Three decades chasing the Amish, Mennonites and the last Shakers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2026


    From Amish settlements in the rural Midwest … to the last Shaker community in Maine … Kevin Williams has spent three decades documenting the lives of people dedicated to simple living. He's collected those experiences in a new book called “Not So Simple.”

    Why more Illinois farmers are filing for bankruptcy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2026


    Illinois farmers are filing for bankruptcy at a rate that's climbed for three years running — a trend that echoes the 1980s farm crisis, which is part of what led to Farm Aid's founding in Champaign-Urbana.

    Jennifer Roscoe on 34 years in local TV news

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2026


    Jennifer Roscoe spent 34 years at WCIA-TV — all of them at the same central Illinois station — before signing off last month. She joins The 21st Show to talk about her career, which started with a 1992 internship at WCIA and spanned major changes in the industry, and how Americans consume news.

    What your accent reveals about you

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2026


    From “da Bears” in Chicago to “Hahvahd Yahd” in Boston, our accents shape how the world hears us — and how it judges us. Linguist Valerie Fridland explores how and why in her new book, "Why We Talk Funny: The Real Story Behind Our Accents," which traces how American speech patterns took shape over centuries and why they're still shifting today.

    Previewing a new series: ‘America at 250’

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2026


    To close out the show ahead of the Fourth of July, we're featuring the first three voices in a new Illinois Public Media series, "America at 250: The Questions Before Us.” It asks Illinoisans what they think are the most important questions facing the country at the United States Semiquincentennial.

    After earthquakes, Illinois man worries over countrymen in Venezuela

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2026


    Two powerful earthquakes struck Caracas, Venezuela's capital, in quick succession last week — a magnitude 7.1 followed less than a minute later by a magnitude 7.5. As of air time, more than 2,200 deaths have been linked to the quakes, with more than 40,000 people still unaccounted for. Alvaro Bello grew up in Venezuela and still has friends and family there. he works with The Immigration Project, an organization accredited by the U.S. Department of Justice to help immigrants with paperwork, though he joins us today as a private citizen. Bello talks what he's heard from contacts in Venezuela, the scale of the destruction, and how Venezuelans in Illinois are responding.

    Illinois ends yearly driving tests for some older drivers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2026


    Illinois drivers between the ages of 79 and 86 are no longer required to take a driving test every year, under a new law that just took effect. The change, part of what's called the Road Safety & Fairness Act, was pushed by AARP Illinois and the Illinois Secretary of State's office. Illinois had been the only state in the country with a rule requiring road tests for drivers in this range based solely on age. Secretary of State personnel can still require a driver to take the test if they notice signs of trouble, and family members can report concerns about a loved one's driving. We'll talk with Ryan Gruenenfelder, Senior Director of Advocacy and Outreach for AARP Illinois, about why the organization pushed for the change, what crash data shows about older drivers' safety records, and how drivers of any age can stay safe on the road.

    The Illinois voice announcing World Cup games in Mexico

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2026


    You may not know his name, but if you've been to a Bulls, Bears, Fire or Fighting Illini game, you know his voice. Champaign's Tim Sinclair has taken his stadium announcing talents to the World Cup, providing English-language PA announcements at games in Mexico. He joins us to talk about learning name pronunciations on the fly, deciding when to announce a goal during lengthy VAR reviews, and what it's like doing this job on the world's biggest stage.

    It’s win-or-go-home time for the U.S. men’s team

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2026


    The U.S. men's national team faces a must-win World Cup round-of-32 match against Bosnia and Herzegovina tonight. Alex Calabrese, who covers soccer for Men in Red 97 Media and MLSsoccer.com, joins us to preview the game, catch us up on how Illinois-connected players have fared in the tournament so far, and break down what the Chicago Fire's signing of Robert Lewandowski means for the club.

    14 new Illinois laws take effect today

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2026


    Fourteen new Illinois laws take effect today, covering everything from to-go cocktails to a new Department of Early Childhood. Capitol News Illinois Statehouse reporter Ben Szalinski joins us to walk through what's changing — including a statewide public defender and new reporting requirements on jail contraband. We'll also check in on where things stand with the hundreds of other bills still awaiting Gov. J.B. Pritzker's signature, from new limits on rental "junk fees" to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that touches on how Illinois counts mail-in ballots.

    As Pride Month ends, Midwest splits on LGBTQ rights

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2026


    Illinois has strengthened its protections for LGBTQ people in recent years. But just across the border, the picture looks different: Iowa has stripped gender identity from its civil rights law, Missouri's Supreme Court has upheld a ban on gender-affirming care for minors, and Indiana's governor has declared June "Nuclear Family Month." All of it comes as a new U.S. Supreme Court ruling allows states to exclude transgender women and girls from female sports teams — and as national polling shows support for LGBTQ rights slipping from its peak. We talk with LGBTQ advocates from across the region — in the Quad Cities, St. Louis, and Evansville, Indiana — about what's changed, how their communities are adapting, and what Pride means as the political climate shifts.

    Illinois skipped the Great American State Fair; Peoria stepped in

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2026


    As the United States marks its 250th birthday, the celebration has split into two: America250, the bipartisan effort Congress created in 2016, and Freedom 250, established by executive order from President Trump. The overlap has caused confusion — and some musicians backed out of the Great American State Fair in Washington, D.C., saying they weren't told about its ties to the Trump administration. Several states, including Illinois, declined to participate. But the 21st state will be represented after all — by the Peoria Riverfront Museum. Brian Mackey talks with museum president and CEO John Morris about how a downstate institution ended up filling in for Illinois, what visitors to its exhibit will see, and what it's like navigating a politically charged event. The Illinois exhibit is open through July 10 in Washington, D.C.

    The human cost of Illinois’ gambling boom

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2026


    Gambling in Illinois used to mean a trip to a riverboat, a racetrack, or the lottery counter. Now it's in restaurants and gas stations — and on the phone in your pocket. Illinoisans lost more than $7.7 billion gambling last year, and a third of that money flows to state government. But a recent investigation — "Addicted to gambling in Illinois," a joint project of the Illinois Answers Project and Capitol News Illinois — found the state invests relatively little in helping the hundreds of thousands of residents estimated to have a gambling problem. Brian Mackey talks with reporters Casey Toner and Maggie Dougherty about what they found, from a Metropolis gas station that's taken in more than $223 million to the gap between gambling revenue and treatment funding. They're joined by Jimmy M., who has been in recovery from compulsive gambling for more than a decade and hosts the podcast “Gambling Recovery: Take Back Your Life.” If you or someone you know is struggling, Illinois' helpline is 1-800-GAMBLER.

    Journalist Lois Romano says Mary Lincoln was ‘An Inconvenient Widow’

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2026


    Many of us were taught Mary Lincoln was a spendthrift, a little crazy, and a drag on her husband's greatness. We'll challenge all that with journalist Lois Romano, who's written a new biography of Abraham Lincoln's wife. “I think once a narrative is formed, it's really hard to shake it,” Romano told “The 21st Show.” “And her narrative was written 150 years ago, and it was written by men who just couldn't stand her. And they projected onto her things that just weren't there.” The book is called “An Inconvenient Widow: The Torment, Trial, and Triumph of Mary Todd Lincoln.”

    Illinois technology featured in World Cup soccer cleats

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2026


    Technology developed by Illinois engineering professor Bill King has been incorporated into the cleats worn by soccer players at this year's World Cup. We'll talk with him about what it is, how it was developed, and how the same tech has also made its way into colon cancer surgery and automobile tires.

    The Illinois schools that discipline Black students the most

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2026


    Schools in Illinois discipline Black students at much higher rates than their white peers. Public radio education reporters Emily Hays and Peter Medlin dug into the data for two schools with the most extreme disparities: Kennedy Middle School in Rockford and Lanphier High School in Springfield. We'll talk about what they found, hear some of the stories behind the numbers, and learn about schools that are doing things differently.

    What happens when fluoride is removed from the water supply?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2026


    Our drinking water has long had fluoride added in order to prevent tooth decay. But some states are banning it, and RFK Jr. is pushing the federal government in that direction. We'll talk about the consequences of fluoride bans for our dental health.

    Disability advocates challenge Illinois ‘aid-in-dying’ law

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2026


    Illinois aid-in-dying law is set to take effect in September. It's meant to give terminally ill patients a medical way to end their lives. But opponents call it “assisted suicide,” and they've joined with disability advocates trying to block the law in court. We'll hear from people on both sides of that debate.

    What’s behind Illinois’ record year for tornadoes?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2026


    It's been a wild couple weeks for severe weather in Illinois. We'll talk with reporters who've covered the aftermath of storms in Effingham and Charleston. We'll also hear from an organization that's been scrambling to place dozens of dogs and cats with foster homes after a tornado tore the roof off an animal shelter in Springfield. Then, the bigger picture with a group of climate scientists. Illinois has had a record number of tornadoes this year, and the figure is still growing. They'll talk about what's behind that, and whether it's our new normal.

    Raphael & Whitney on their music, their partnership, and revisiting their roots

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2026


    Illinois-natives Rafael and Whitney are a husband and wife duo known for their soul and R&B vocals and music. They will be performing at this year's Juneteenth festival at the Krannert Center for the Performing Arts in Urbana, Illinois.

    Should Illinois pursue reparations for descendants of slavery? Take the survey

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2026


    As Juneteenth approaches, the debate continues about whether descendants of enslaved Black Americans should receive reparations. In 2022, the city of Evanston, near Chicago, made history as the first U.S. city to implement a publicly funded reparations program for Black Americans. But should the relief go even further... perhaps, statewide?

    Southern Illinois teens graduate high school with associate’s degrees

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2026


    High school classes can be hard — and so are the first couple years of college. A group of teenagers in southern Illinois did both at the same time —  and simultaneously earned high school diplomas and associate's degrees.

    Rachel Bronson on U.S.-Iran deal: ‘We're in a much worse situation’

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2026


    The U.S. and Iran say they've reached a deal to end nearly four months of war — a war the president said was meant to end Iran's nuclear program, gut its missiles, cut off its proxies, and topple its government. "None of those have been achieved,” says Rachel Bronson, who closely follows the region from her base at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. “I think we're in a much worse situation, and now we're just trying to figure out how to stanch that bleeding and to figure out what this next stage looks like.”

    Bats in Illinois: What to do when one moves in and how to respond after being exposed to one

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2026


    Ever wondered about Illinois' bat population? Or perhaps you recently dealt with trying to get a bat out of your home? The 21st Show took the opportunity to catch up on the state of bat populations across the 21st state, and how you can safely get rid of one that might find comfort in your home and when to respond to health-related concerns following exposure to bats.

    An Illinois grand jury said no. Prosecutors came back anyway.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2026


    For most of American history, when a Justice Department lawyer stood up in court and told a judge something, the judge took it as true. There's even a name for this — it's called "presumption of regularity," the idea that government officials are doing their jobs honestly and in good faith. That assumption is now under strain. A growing number of federal judges — appointed by presidents of both parties — have indicated they are no longer willing to give the benefit of the doubt to lawyers from the Trump administration. And one of the clearest examples of this is coming out of Illinois. It's the case of the so-called “Broadview Six” — immigration protesters arrested outside a suburban Chicago ICE facility last fall. A rare federal felony case against them collapsed this spring after a judge found what she described as serious misconduct in front of a grand jury.

    Meet the Illinoisans representing the U.S. Navy in the Warrior Games

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2026


    The 2026 Warrior Games are currently underway in San Antonio, Texas. First started in 2010, the Warrior Games are designed to bring together wounded, ill or injured service members from the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, Coast Guard, and Special Operations Command. This year, there are nearly 200 people competing in 12 adaptive sports. Among them are Navy Aviation Structural Mechanic 1st Class Thomas Trosper, a native of Georgetown, Illinois; and retired Navy Aircrew Survival Equipmentman 1st Class James Shoemaker of Effingham, Illinois. Trosper will be competing in archery, cycling, field, swimming and wheelchair basketball. Shoemaker is competing in archery, sitting volleyball, swimming and track.

    What do we owe Illinoisans who were unjustly convicted of crimes?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2026


    In Illinois, when someone is convicted of a crime they didn't commit and later cleared, the state makes it official with what's called a certificate of innocence. It allows people to seek monetary compensation from state government, and can help them wipe the case from their record. Lately, however, that system has been moving in two directions: a state appeals court has ruled some exonerated people should get these certificates automatically, and lawmakers in Springfield just voted to substantially raise the money that comes with them. But at the same time, the Cook County state's attorney has been fighting many of petitions for certificates of innocence in court. Dan Hinkel has been reporting on all of this for the nonprofit newsroom Injustice Watch.

    Three Illinois teens arrested by ICE

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2026


    Last week, three teenagers from Collinsville, Illinois were on their way to a job. That's when they were stopped by local police in Christian County. Before long, all three of them were in the custody of federal immigration agents. The family says local police circumvented the TRUST Act — the Illinois law meant to stop that from happening. We'll talk about it with Brian Munoz of St. Louis Public Radio.

    Best of: Sci-fi author Ken Liu on his writing, AI, and sentient toasters

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2026


    Author Ken Liu was born in China in 1976, and his family emigrated to the U.S. when he was 11. He has published multiple collections of short stories and an epic series of novels. Several of his works have been made into films , including “Good Hunting,” which was part of the Netflix animated anthology series Love, Death and Robots. He's also known for translating the Chinese sci-fi series known as The Three Body Problem. Based in the Boston suburbs, Liu visited Central Illinois back in 2024 for a talk at the Champaign Public Library on art and artificial intelligence. That's when we first aired this conversation, in which he talks about trading a traditional job for writing full time, what's unique about Chinese science fiction, and why he's excited for the possibilities of artificial intelligence.

    Best of: How ‘The Onion’ made modern news satire

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2026


    The Onion's news satire has become a staple of American culture. It's come a long way from humble beginnings in the Midwest in 1988, when Christine Wenc was part of the original. Her book, Funny Because It's True: How the Onion Created Modern American News Satire explores history of the publication and how it's still relevant today.

    The significance of LGBTQ spaces in a challenging political climate

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2026


    Business owners who offer safe spaces to their local LGBTQ communities in downstate Illinois discuss what these spaces mean to people in the current political environment.

    Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum’s new exhibit explores ‘Second American Revolution’

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2026


    For enslaved people and others of African descent, it would be nearly another century until they were included in the founders' conception of liberty and women would win equal citizenship more than a half-century after that. That is the subject of a new exhibit at the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum.

    How did the denial of climate change become popular in America?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2026


    David Lipsky's book, ‘The Parrot and the Igloo: Climate and the Science of Denial', tells the story of how American people have lost their trust in science.

    Who are the Illinoisans playing in the 2026 World Cup?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2026


    It's almost time for the World Cup. This year hosting duties are being shared among the U.S, Mexico and Canada. Illinois has fairly strong representation in this year's World Cup.

    Could new SNAP requirements lead to a hunger crisis in Illinois?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2026


    More than 100,000 Illinois residents are at risk of losing federal food support because of new work requirements. What does that mean and what's being done about it?

    Illinois General Assembly: Top Republicans talk taxes, effects of federal policies on state government

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2026


    Top leaders representing the Republican side of the Illinois House and Senate share their thoughts and criticisms on this year's budget.

    Illinois General Assembly: Top Democrats talk taxes, education and tech

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2026


    The Democrats who preside over the Illinois House and Senate share their thoughts on this year's $56 billion state budget.

    A sneak peek of the Obama Presidential Center

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2026


    In just a few weeks, the Barack Obama Presidential Center will be opening in Chicago. We'll talk about what's inside with a journalist who got to tour the museum last month.

    Illinois General Assembly spring session recap

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2026


    The Illinois General Assembly has wrapped up its spring session. A statehouse reporter discusses the results of the session.

    How do location sharing apps impact relationships?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2026


    Apps that let people share their locations with friends and loved ones have become quite common. A researcher who's been studying how they affect relationships shares more about his findings.

    The life-changing magic of working ‘Four Days a Week’

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2026


    Economist and sociologist Juliet Schor has spent years documenting how Americans are overworked — but her latest research suggests a solution: shaving one day off the workweek, with no drop in pay or (in many cases) productivity. She outlines these findings in a book, “Four Days a Week: The Life-Changing Solution for Reducing Employee Stress, Improving Well-Being, and Working Smarter.”

    Summer travel with Wolters World

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2026


    With Memorial Day this past weekend, summer travel season has begun. But have you seen those gas prices? We'll talk with Illinois-based travel YouTuber Mark Wolters about where to head this summer — and how to save some money on the way.

    Biking 500 miles on the Grand Illinois Trail

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2026


    The Grand Illinois Trail aims to connect Northern Illinois by bicycle. It spans more than 500 miles, from Chicago to the Quad Cities and back. And after 30 years of planning, it's almost done. We'll talk with Sara Egan of Openlands, which is pushing to get the project across the finish line.

    Family and Fans Remember Illinois Jazz Icon Miles Davis

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2026


    On what would have been Miles Davis' 94th birthday, The 21st asks family members and musical experts to talk about his childhood in Illinois, his impact on the discussion of race and of course, his legendary musical performances and compositions.

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