The Drop

This episode is brought to you by sharks in hurricanes and mythical creatures like Artemis from Always Sunny, Kegasus, and He-man, plus a full preview of all our Boston events. We also talk about the overhaul of the marathon at World Athletics Championships, the new Andy Murray sponsorship with Hylo, and the current life status of Perez Hilton (since that's what everyone was wondering).Check out all our events at Boston Marathon Weekend:Mount to Coast Meetup: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/behind-the-mount-to-coast-bitr-h1-film-qa-community-night-tickets-1986765072815New Balance Relay: https://www.ticketsignup.io/TicketEvent/NewBalanceMarathonRelay26Adidas Shakeout Run: https://heartbreak.run/blogs/heartbeat/adidas-boston-2026-shakeout SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSWIFTWICK In 2025 we launched a vintage collection in celebration of the Boston Marathon with Cole Townsend of Running Supply that sold out in minutes. For this year's race, we've teamed up again for something new. Meet our limited edition, vintage-inspired drop: a T-shirt and sock collection designed to carry you through the streets of Boston. Available now: https://swiftwick.com/collections/boston-marathon-2026PLUS...If you'll be in Boston during race week, you'll be able to shop the collection (along with a new Boston-exclusive drop) at Rec Room in collaboration with Running Supply, located at 334 Newbury St. Stop by the marathon boutique, where you'll also find brands like SOAR, Currently, Pruzan, Bonzer, Like the Wind, Alex Zono, and Raide.Stay tuned on @swiftwicksocks IG for more details coming in the coming weeks.LMNT Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they're now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop PILLAR PILLAR Collagen Repair is designed to support tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue - the stuff that takes a beating when you're running day after day. It's super easy it is to use. We mix it into our coffee or a smoothie, usually before a run, and it's become part of our routine.It's not about quick fixes. It's about supporting your body long-term so you can keep training, racing, and enjoying the process without constantly battling little aches and pains. If you're thinking about durability as much as improving times, PILLAR Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine.If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.INDEX2:30 - Thrash (New Shark Movie) 4:15 - Artemis II 7:45 - Artemis from Always Sunny9:24 - Salisbury Marathon 13:48 - Neuticles 26:55 - BITR Boston Agenda 28:05 - Two Friends Concert at Mile 2129:21 - Preakness Kegasus 31:00 - BITR H132:23 - New Balance Marathon Relay / Shirts34:26 - Adidas x BITR Shakeout Run Sunday41:13 - New Balance Track at Boston44:13 - ACT C.1 Running Shoe44:53 - Currently Running (Apparel brand) vs SATISFY47:34 - Uniqlo Running Line52:55 - Perez Hilton 55:50 - Max Jolliffe 59:10 - He-Man 59:45 - New Super Mario movie 1:04:44 - Starbucks Cubano 1:05:54 - World Marathons Greece 20301:09:10 - Matt Choi Half Ironman DQ drama1:23:43 - Andy Murray x Hylo partnership1:27-ish - Adidas Prime X Evo

Alex, Taylor, and Reese reconnect after a few weeks of travel. They chat about their most recent adventures and what they are looking forward to this spring, including races for each of them.Guest: Floris Gierman is the cofounder of Path Projects, a running brand focused on high-quality function. Hear about his most recent adventure with the Believe in the Run crew in the Canyon, past life in the skateboard industry, and how he has developed a career in the running space.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

This week, Thomas sits down with Charlotte Heidmann, the absolute boss of the Adizero line over at Adidas. If you've been mind-blown by the Evo Pro 1, Prime X, or the runaway hit Evo SL over the last few years, this episode is a goldmine. We dive deep into the pressure of shaking up the super-shoe industry, how the innovation team operates, and what it's like to receive unfiltered feedback from pinnacle athletes like Benson Kipruto and Tigist Assefa.Then, we pivot to an incredibly relatable runner's journey: Charlotte taking on her very first marathon in Tokyo. She shares the inside scoop on her training plan, the intense emotional relief of crossing the finish line in a stellar 3:36:48, and why she chose to race in a colorway that wasn't exactly her favorite.

This week, Thomas and Karl drop into the Grand Canyon with Mount to Coast to celebrate the massive release of the BITR x Mount to Coast H1 collab shoe. To properly break in the new drop, the guys tackle a brutal ultra down in the canyon alongside an absolute powerhouse crew featuring American marathon legend Ryan Hall and Path Projects founder Floris Gierman. Joined by Doug, Lin, Spencer, Matt, and Taylor, it's a wild adventure of heavy vert, epic miles, and plenty of on-the-run shoe talk. Spoiler alert: they survived to tell the tale.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSPILLARIf you're training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That's why we've been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.LMNTMarathon racing season is here, which means you need your LMNT, featuring 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. We use it before, during, and after all our races and you should oto. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Grand Canyon is known as one of the Seven Wonders of the World. We visited and can confirm that this is truly a special place. Hear from Dirt Division reviewers Matt and Taylor about their day in the canyon celebrating the launch of the Mount to Coast BITR H1. They chat about the experience, gear, and people that made the adventure.

This week, we dive into the fascinating trend of Gen Z ditching alcohol and break down the big sponsor news of Clayton Young's move to Brooks. On the running front, it was a massive week for American records: Emma Grace Hurley officially beat Deena Kastor's 21-year-old 8K mark. Later in the show, we get into some shoe talk with the Mount to Coast C1 and 361 Miro Nude 2.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAROnly for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dropLMNTMarathon racing seaon is here, which means you need your LMNT, featuring 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. We use it before, during, and after all our races and you should oto. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor is fresh off the plane from San Francisco where he spent the weekend with the Salomon crew at the Big Alta. Alex and Taylor mull over the weekend and determine whether this is an event to check out in future years. Then, they have a quick chat about a shoe that has been a staple in Taylor's return to running over the last three months, the Salomon Aero Glide 4 GRVL.Guest: Grayson Murphy is a world champion trail runner who is also competing at the highest level on the roads. Taylor and Grayson discuss her exciting new chapters with Salomon and as a mom in her third trimester of pregnancy.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSLMNT: Slim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas interviews Jeff Metzdorff of Mill City Running.

This week, Thomas sits down with Karl, our Media Coordinator, to talk through his origin story.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAROnly for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dropSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

The crew is back to their normal shenani's and reminisced on the olden days. They discuss some of the trends that were popular when they started running.Guest: Kevin Benes is the founder and owner of Running Wild Events in Estes Park, Co. He and Taylor talk about his history in running, his array of quirky events, why running is currently sitting in the back seat, and some of his favorite trail shoes of all time.

Meg is back from Los Angeles where she wrapped up the grand finale of the ASICS LA 100, a 16-week journey that culminated with one hundred women running the LA Marathon on International Women's Day. It was quite the weekend, to say the least. We also cover some thoughts on the Adidas Hyperboost Edge, a controversial design but with an undeniably great feeling underfoot.Also– Monday is the official pre-sale date of the Mount to Coast H1 BITR! Pick it up here: https://mounttocoast.com/SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAROnly for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dropLMNTDid you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they're now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese, Alex, and Taylor talk about a hodgepodge of topics ranging from their current training, wearing headphones, and running with underwear. They eventually get around to initial thoughts about Arc'teryx race shoe, the Sylan 2.Guest: Dylan Bowman needs is, perhaps, trail running's Ambassador Supreme. His life and business revolve around the sport he loves. He is also stepping into a new season as an athlete who gets to choose his training, races, and gear. Dylan and Taylor chat about all of this and more.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSLMNT: Slim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500 mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas and Karl are back from South Korea, where they got an up-close look at the all-new On Lightspray factory, full of droids producing a whole army's worth of running footwear. They cover the entire trip while Robbe defends Spirit Airlines to the death and Meg gives a preview of her upcoming weekend with ASICS and the Los Angeles Marathon 100 Women Challenge. Thomas also drops the deets on the upcoming Mount to Coast BITR H1 release.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAROnly for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dropSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.comINDEX6:12 - USATF Half Marathon Champs Women Debacle17:36 - Busan21:52 - Shakeout run first 30:08 - On Factory (just follow the convo and plug in b-roll) 53:00 - Tokyo Marathon1:04:55 - Spirit Airlines 1:13:00 - Nate Bargatze1:15:55 - Meg's LA Marathon 100 Women Challenge1:25:35 - Newport News Marathon 1:26:25 - BITR x MTC H1 Presale

The Dirt Division has reviewers around the country. This week we chat about the “art” of reviewing. Hear about our approach to building a profile and our opinions about each shoe we review.Guest: Max King has had a long illustrative career in trail running, and it continues with the support of Kailas Fuga. Most recently he took on the challenge of the Barkley Marathons.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTSlim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas interviews Olivier Bernhard and Caspar Coppetti, On Co-Founders, and Scott Maguire, On's Chief Innovation Officer, on the floor of On's new Lightspray factory in South Korea. Topics include the conception of the factory, the new Lightspray Cloudmonster 3 Hyper, and how innovation in automation is driving the brand forward.

Thomas and Karl are checking out the all-new On Lightspray factory in South Korea, so we test a new and incredibly confusing format with Wide Foot Jarrett and Normal Foot Jared. We still manage to keep it unhinged, covering everything from jogging strollers to peptide stacking and a converation about cotton and sweat. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAROnly for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dropPILLARIf you're training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That's why we've been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.LMNTMarathon racing seaon is here, which means you need your LMNT, featuring 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. We use it before, during, and after all our races and you should oto. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

This week, the crew talks about the flip side of the coin - reasons why you SHOULD run ultras. Then, they talk shop about the Hoka Speedgoat 7 as it compares to the beloved Speedgoat 4 Evo.Guest: Taylor chats with Teva Beureau of Adventure athlete, Erin Ton. Her life is all about adventure. She has the most FKT's of any woman in the world and has recently recorded the fastest time on one of the world's Seven Summits.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTThe Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas and Robbe sit down with Hylo CEO Jacob Green and Chief Product Officer Jorma Seabourne to share the story of how Hylo came to life, where the brand is headed next, and what truly sets their product apart — all with a healthy dose of classic British humour along the way. Tune in for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation you won't want to miss.Check out Hylo: https://hyloathletics.com/

Thomas and Karl return from their addended trip to the Adidas HQ in Germany where they delved into the footwear archives. We wrap up our final two days in London. We wonder about witches and whey. All of us may be suffering from jet lag, so bear with us. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOARSOAR's 1 Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you're still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Get your gear at: www.soarrunning.comPILLARRecently, we've been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it's been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases!SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

Alex brought a juicy topic to the group this week. They went round robin on reasons NOT to run an ultra. Then, they chat about some of their initial thoughts on the Nike ACG Ultrafly.Guest: Terignota is a trail running apparel brand that has blown up over the past year. Found, Alex King, and Taylor chat about the quick trajectory, what makes Terignota special in a saturated space, and more.

Andy Baddeley is a father, an Olympian, a co-founder of the Running Channel, and the previous parkrun world record holder. Thomas and Andy talk about what it was like competing compared to now, the team at The Running Channel, and many other topics in this episode of The Drop.Check out The Running Channel here:⁠https://therunningchannel.com/

The gang is across the pond on today's episode. In store: Hylo Athletics, Delta One mishaps, English Breakfast, and really terrible impressions. From West Ham to Platform 9 3/4, this one has it all, folks.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSLMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedropSOARIf you don't know, Soar makes some of the best running apparel in the world. Like, the whole world. They take design and performance seriously, utilizing cutting edge fabrics that exceed the highest standards for running gear. We love all their winter apparel and their warm weather singlets are unbeatable. Check out their X-Race collections, which are perfect for all the upcoming spring marathons:Men's XRace collections⁠https://www.soarrunning.com/collections/x-race⁠Women's XRace collections⁠https://www.soarrunning.com/collections/womens-x-race⁠PILLARCollagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine, ensuring you stay healthy when you're working your hardest. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or ⁠TheFeed.com/pillar⁠ and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Taylor, Alex, and Reese jump right in this week with topics ranging from personal philosophies on eating food off of the ground to personal stitches. They also chat about the Adidas Terrex Agravic TT as well as sacrifices they are willing to make for races depending on duration and terrain.GUEST: Nike ACG's poster child, Christian Allen, joins Taylor to talk about his versatility as an athlete, faith, and his big goals in 2026.

Nick Harris-Fry from The Run Testers joins Thomas for this episode of the Drop to talk all things running shoes, YouTube, The Run Testers, and for the first time ever, we do a live review of the Hoka Cielo X1 3.0.

The team went down to Florida and brought the coldest temperatures in a hundred years along with them for The Donna Marathon Weekend. We recap our races and the Winter GRIT party and our time at Waffle House, among many other things. Thanks to everyone that came out, we had an amazing time despite the unseasonable temps. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSFour Points by Sheraton @ Jax BeachWe had the best time ever at The Donna Marathon Weekend and the Four Points is just steps away from the start and finish line, literally the closest we've ever been to a race. With oceanside rooms in a quiet setting, it's the best place to get a good night's rest before a race. It's a bonus that they just remodeled and their happy hour is top notch. Reserve your room here: https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/jaxbf-four-points-jacksonville-beachfront/overview/SOAR If you don't know, Soar makes some of the best running apparel in the world. Like, the whole world. They take design and performance seriously, utilizing cutting edge fabrics that exceed the highest standards for running gear. We love all their winter apparel and their warm weather singlets are unbeatable. Check out their X-Race collections, which are perfect for al the upcoming spring marathons: Men's XRace collectionshttps://www.soarrunning.com/collections/x-raceWomen's XRace collectionshttps://www.soarrunning.com/collections/womens-x-racePILLARCollagen Repair is designed to support tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue - the stuff that takes a beating when you're running day after day. PILLAR Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine, ensuring you stay healthy when you're working your hardest. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

This week, the Trail Trio discusses considerations for choosing race day footwear - which proves to be much more difficult to come to a consensus than one would think.Guest: Cade Michael is an up and coming trail runner who has taken some big swings this past year! He's looking to improve on those results and continue to establish himself as one of the USA's top prospective athletes in 2026.

Nikhil Jain is the Director of Footwear Product Line Management at Brooks Running. Thomas and Meg had the opportunity to talk all things Glycerin Flex with him at The Running Event.

We're bringing the listeners into the mix as we answer a handful of questions, including our picks for best and worst marathon medals. We also recap our snow day(s) here in Baltimore and Alex Honnold doing weird things on tall buildings before covering the just-released Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, a lighter and even more energetic race-day shoe.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARIf you're training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That's why we've been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.LMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor and Reese prepare themselves for gross winter weather to hit by trading thoughts about the treadmill. Likewise, they chat about the upcoming Merrell Agility Peak 6.Guest: Cole Zucker is the founder of Kila, an insole company that's built on the premise of run performance. Taylor and Cole talk about Cole's background in the lighting industry and how his experiences helped launch Kila.

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Reese is on assignment in Arizona to check out the course for her upcoming race, Black Canyon 100k. She gives the details on her trip, her training, and even a GOAT sighting on the trail. Taylor and Reese then try to sort out the whole "gravel running" conversation and talk about if it's a worthy category to get excited about.Guest: Teva athlete Michael Wardian returns to the show to catch up with Taylor. They mull over a bunch of topics ranging from his busier-than-ever schedule, Burrito League, sandals, and his upcoming world record attempt of 7x50k in 7 days on 7 continents.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTThe Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

The first rule about The Drop is that you don't talk about The Drop. Mostly because your friends will think less of you. On this episode, we give a hagiography of Brad Pitt, Robbe tries to trap a mouse, and we cover all the exciting stuff that happened at the Houston Marathon last weekend. We almost lost one of our listeners, but luckily a doctor was on hand to bring him back to us. Thankful for that and for you if you're still reading this. Eventually we get around to the Mizuno Neo Zen 2, a fine update to an already great shoe. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARIf you're training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That's why we've been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.LMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Alex returns this month with a genuine question about selecting your crew for ultras. The trio also chat about the hot topic of January, The Burrito League, and the newest comission in the Speedland lineup, the GS:BLK.Guest: Chris Myers is a Brooks and Runderwear athlete who has mixed up with the best of the best on the trails. He and Taylor talk a little bit about but even more on other topics like his underwear preferences, the Brooks Cascadia Elite, and his views on personal growth in the sport. Chris also gives some top-notch crewing tips and discloses his focuses for 2026.

Yowana Wamala is the founder and CEO of Supwell.Find him on Youtube here: https://youtube.com/@supwell?si=SHRm0oeTUDQxVw7z

It's been a few weeks since we've been in studio, so there's been plenty of stuff brewing that we needed to get out. We focus on the trivial, from the lack of cigs in Stranger Things to Maduro's Nike fit to Sage Canaday's beef with unnamed hybrid athlete Truett Hanes. Also, we talk about the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, which has taken a big leap forward from the previous version. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARIf you're training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That's why we've been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

The duet is back together after an extended year end vacation. They chat about a range of topics from their holiday's, gas stations, to their post-mortal preferences. Of course, they talk about trail running a with the upcoming Scott Kinabalu Trail and what they look forward to in 2026.Guest: 7Mesh is a high-performance clothing brand that started the way many high-quality brands begin. TJ and Ian, cofounders of 7Mesh, saw a hole in the market for performance tuned all-conditions cycling gear. Their experience and expertise (former Arc'teryx CEO and designer) in the industry helped them create some of the most thoughtful gear that extends to all outdoor endeavors. Listen to how they started 7Mesh, science/thoughts behind their gear, and what's to come in future seasons.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTThe Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: DrinkLMNT.com/dirtdivision

In Part 2 of our Holiday Series, we're recapping the year that was. We kick things off in Miami with HOKA, then roll through an action-packed spring—Kenya, Boston, London, the Move Her Mind Event Series, Western States, #Breaking4 in Paris, welcoming Taylor Boding officially to the team, Worlds in Tokyo, Thomas' trip to China, Chicago, NYC, and so much more.Thank you all for supporting us every step of the way this year. We're excited for what's ahead in 2026.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.comLMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

I mean, it's Molly freakin' Seidel, Olympic bronze medalist and all-around great person who is now a certified trail runner with a whole slate of off-road adventures lined up in 2026. We talk about that, but we also dive into mysterious vortexes, magic minerals, and her favorite shoes right now.Follow Molly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bygolly.molly/

We've got a lot to unpack as we close out 2025, starting with a deep dive into Meg's experience at The Marathon Project—from travel chaos to racing in the Nike Proto. We also break down our favorite shoes, gear, and brands of the year, plus share some listener and viewer stats to round things out.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!MAURTENMeg's raced The Marathon Project last week and you know she relied on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTENSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.comLMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese and Taylor take the time to reflect on a big 2025. First they chat about the new Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra 2 and then dive into the deep end of 2025 where they talk about everything from the idea of time itself to skin care routines.

As CEO of The Atlantic, father of three boys, and age group record holder for the 50K, Nick Thompson has a lot on his plate. That includes writing a new book, The Running Ground, one of our most favorite running books in recent memory. Part memoir and part love letter to the sport, it explores the ups and downs of life and the thread of running through it all. Robbe talks to him about all of that and more in this episode of The Drop.Pick up The Running Ground: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678434/the-running-ground-by-nicholas-thompson/

Happy E420 from the team! While we didn't ingest anyting to celebrate, we did go stream of consciousness on this episode. From Jimmy Eat World to the Army/Navy game to Meg's pre-race sickness, Baltimore had a lot going on this weekend. Speaking of races, Meg is headed out to Arizona to run the Marathon Project in a very special prototype. We also talk about The Running Ground, overzealous soccer parents, Taylor Swift's generosity, and Kim Conley's incredible comeback at the 2012 Olympic Trials. Finally, we end up covering the Puma Magmax Nitro 2, a great max cushion trainer that can kind of do anything.Pick up The Running Ground by Nicholas Thompson: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678434/the-running-ground-by-nicholas-thompson/Watch Kim Conley's comeback at the 2012 Olympic Trials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqdxuWmdsYISUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!MAURTENMeg's heading off to The Marathon Project in a week and you know she'll be stocking up on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTENSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.comLMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor, Reese, and Alex (long time BITR contributer) chat about running during winter. Love it or hate it, we all still need to move in the colder months of the year. What adjustments do you make to still get out? Topics of travel, nutrition, gear, training approaches, and more are all packed into this episode.Guest: Sophia Laukli is a multi-sport pro for Maurten and Salomon. She has cross country skied her whole life and still does so at an elite level. Trail running is a more recent endeavor in which she quickly rose to being one of the top runners in the world! Taylor and Sophia chat about her history with sport, living in Oslo, as well as the ups and downs of being a world-class athlete for two sports year round.

Thomas and Robbe sat down with Kiprun's CMO Julien Vancauwenberghe and Product Lead Pierre-Emmanuel Gaillard to chat about their entrance into the US next year, including what shoes you'll be able to purchase in April.

We went deep into the heart of Texas with nearly 6,000 other runners as we took over San Antonio for the The Running Event 2025. Over the course of three days, we lined up over 40 meetings to gather all the intel we could about running shoes, apparel, gear, and nutrition. This is our report of that event, as well as a full recap of our experience at the Rainforest Cafe. It's a long one, but well worth it.Limited spots remain for Winter GRIT! Get in today: https://www.believeintherun.com/gritSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!MAURTENMeg's heading off to The Marathon Project in a week and you know she'll be stocking up on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTENSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.comLMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Dirt Division met up with the Baltimore Crew down in San Antonio to check out all that's to come in 2026. Listen to their observations of trends, what they are excited about, and the inevitable stories that come out of such a weekend.Guest: Anna Gibson is one of the best that the US has to offer. The US Olympic Trials qualifier on the track just just wrapped up an epic year of trail with world-class results at Golden Trail Final and World Mountain Running Championships. Taylor and Anna chat about her relationship with sport, Grand Canyon rafting, coffee, and much more.

Taylor interviews Andy Wacker, ultrarunner and founder of The Trail Team. Follow Andy on Instagram: @wackera

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If you're anything like Taylor and Reese, you're hard to buy gifts for. They are here helping us all out whether you're a trail runner or getting something for a trail runner. We have reviewed a lot of gift-worthy gear this year. Here are some of our favorites in all price categories. Guest: Dan Green has had a major year of trail running with a race calendar and results that any trail runner would dream of! The Maurten/ Salomon pro talks about how he got into running in the first place, his rise to an elite level, and whether he even considers himself as a professional.

Robbe talks with Andy Wynne, founder of Nuyarn, leading the way in Merino technology. It's a deep dive into one of our favorite materials on earth.Learn more about Nuyarn: https://nuyarn.com/Check out our guide to running in Merino: https://believeintherun.com/gear-reviews/merino-wool-guide-for-winter-running/

Thomas and Robbe recap all the ups and downs of their traverse through the JFK 50 Mile race, which turned out to be much better than their initial test run of the trail portion. Also, Winter GRIT registration opens at 9 a.m. TODAY (November 28), so make sure you get in on it before it sells out! Plus, we just announced our first ever shoe collab with Mount to Coast, which comes out in Spring 2026. Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/gritSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!MAURTENWe crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTENSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wore them for the JFK 50 Mile race and finished with ZERO blisters, so we're not sure how else we can convince you to buy a pair. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.comLMNTGuess what? Yes, we used LMNT before and during the JFK 50 Mile race. Robbe downed 4 packets during the actual race and got through with zero cramps or headaches. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop