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Jim Hill and Eric Hersey trace the unlikely journey of Stranger Things from the Duffer Brothers' rejected pitch to one of Netflix's defining franchises - and a recurring Halloween Horror Nights favorite. They revisit how Universal translated Hawkins and the Upside Down into elaborate haunted houses, why the creative partnership worked so well, and how those early attractions helped prove that fans wanted to physically step inside Netflix's worlds. Then Jim and Eric bring the story up to the present with Netflix House in Philadelphia and the latest Stranger Things experience headed to Halloween Horror Nights 35. FEATURE • How Matt and Ross Duffer turned their original Montauk concept into Stranger Things after a string of network rejections. • Why the show's mix of Stephen King, Steven Spielberg, John Carpenter, 1980s nostalgia, and breakout young performers became a cultural phenomenon. • How Stranger Things first came to Halloween Horror Nights in 2018, with the Duffer Brothers giving Universal extensive creative access. • The painstaking work behind recreating Hawkins, the Byers house, the Upside Down, and the Demogorgon for Universal Orlando and Hollywood. • Why the 2019 and 2023 Stranger Things houses evolved differently on each coast rather than becoming simple clones. • Jim and Eric's visit to Netflix House at King of Prussia and its immersive Stranger Things experience. • How Netflix expanded Stranger Things into touring experiences, live theater, permanent attractions, and other extensions beyond the streaming series. • What Halloween Horror Nights 35 could represent as one of the final major theme park celebrations of Hawkins and its characters. HOSTS • Jim Hill - X/Twitter: @JimHillMedia | Instagram: @JimHillMedia | jimhillmedia.com• Eric Hersey - X/Twitter: @erichersey | Instagram: @erichersey | strongmindedagency.com FOLLOW • Facebook: @JimHillMediaNews• YouTube: @jimhillmedia• TikTok: @jimhillmedia• Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jimhillmedia/ SUPPORT Support the show and access bonus episodes and additional content at https://www.patreon.com/jimhillmedia. PRODUCTION CREDITS Edited by Dave GreyProduced by Eric Hersey - https://strongmindedagency.com SPONSOR Planning a Universal Orlando Resort vacation? The travel professionals at BeOurGuestVacations.com offer personalized concierge service to help with resort stays, theme park tickets, and special extras for your Universal adventure. Be sure to mention that the Epic Universal Podcast sent you.If you would like to sponsor a show on the Jim Hill Media Podcast Network, reach out today. https://www.jimhillmedia.com/sponsor/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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August 17, 2026 - Mayor Julie Moore Wolfe joined Byers & Co to talk about generational supporters of the city, City Council business, and discussions around data centers and energy projects. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 17, 2026 - Kevin Breheny joined Byers & Co to talk about the busy weekend, Millikin, the Chicago Bears possible relocation, and Soy City Buzz on First Mid Monday. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 17, 2026 - Pat Dawson and Matt Beck joined Byers & Co with Kevin Breheny to talk about their continued support of the WSOY Community Food Drive. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 17, 2026 - Dr. Juanita Morris joined Byers & Co to talk about the importance of mentors , her own children and DCLI graduates moving on to college, DCLI scholarships, the DCLI Awards Ceremony, The Farm at 3080, community cooperation, and the WSOY Community Food Drive. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jeff Byers, CEO of Momentous, returns to Future of Fitness for his third appearance to unpack how the brand grew revenue over 1,000% in three years while landing partnerships with all 32 NFL teams and 10+ Department of Defense contracts. Byers breaks down why Momentous walked away from a $500,000-profit product line over a science and brand-integrity call — literally scrapping $400,000 in inventory rather than sell it through — how the company is approaching its first-ever retail launch with Vitamin Shop, and why a $500,000 commitment to women's health research with Dr. Stacey Sims fits into a bigger 20-year brand strategy. From Arnold Schwarzenegger's endorsement to what AI search optimization means for consumer trust, this conversation is a masterclass in building a supplement brand built to outlast any single quarter. Key Takeaways
Contact Happening Now: Audience Encounters with UFOs, Sasquatch, and the Mount Adams Mystery James Gilliland hosts a panel-style edition of As You Wish Talk Radio in which Jenny Byers and multiple audience members share personal experiences involving ECETI, Mount Adams, UFO sightings, sky-watching, Bigfoot and Sasquatch encounters, spiritual discernment, direct contact, disclosure, and the importance of seeking firsthand experience rather than relying on controlled narratives. Disclosure, Discernment, and Direct Experience Gilliland opens by describing ECETI as a longstanding center for reported contact experiences and argues that authentic disclosure has been suppressed by censorship, money, competition, and controlled narratives. Byers agrees that truth should not depend on fame, influence, or institutional approval, and emphasizes that people should cultivate direct connection to Source rather than surrendering discernment to influencers, organizations, or technology. Together, they present personal experience and inner guidance as the foundation for understanding UFO and multidimensional phenomena. ECETI as an Experiential Spiritual Community Gilliland and Byers describe ECETI as a family-friendly environment where visitors can meet like-minded people, participate in sky-watches and healing circles, and openly discuss experiences that may be dismissed elsewhere. They characterize the property as a place of elevated energy, spiritual growth, emotional release, and direct contact with benevolent beings. Gilliland also discusses what he views as a broader transition between a collapsing old world and a new reality based on higher consciousness, healing, and loving detachment. Audience Reports of UFOs and Mount Adams Activity Several audience participants describe seeing large numbers of lights, craft, and orbs around Mount Adams and the ECETI property. Sean says he stopped counting after witnessing what he estimated to be hundreds of objects, while other participants describe lights emerging from the mountain, craft appearing to respond to attention, unusual formations, and sightings enhanced through night-vision equipment. Gilliland repeatedly encourages listeners to seek their own experience by watching the sky with an open mind, loving intent, and personal discernment. Bigfoot, Sasquatch, and Interdimensional Encounters Audience members also recount reported Bigfoot and Sasquatch experiences, including sightings near the tree line, strong odors, heavy footsteps, branch-breaking, eyeshine, and beings that seemed to appear and disappear. Gilliland shares several of his own stories, including a close encounter with a female Bigfoot he perceived as distressed and an account of communicating through what he describes as mind-speak. The speakers portray Sasquatch as intelligent, spiritually sensitive, closely connected to nature, and sometimes associated with UFO activity. Challenging Official Narratives and Taking Ownership of Disclosure Gilliland argues that conventional institutions and some parts of the UFO community focus too heavily on threat assessment while ignoring reports of benevolent, spiritually advanced beings, healing, and transformative contact. He criticizes censorship, commercialization, jealousy, and the marginalization of witnesses who claim direct experience. His central message is that individuals should stop waiting for governments, conferences, media organizations, or public figures to provide disclosure and instead take responsibility for observing, questioning, and experiencing these phenomena for themselves. Sky-Watch Footage and the Invitation to Visit ECETI The closing field footage includes voices describing luminous circular objects, multiple flashes, orange orbs, clustered lights, and numerous objects moving above the trees. Participants insist that what they witnessed did not resemble conventional aircraft or satellites. The episode ends with an invitation to explore ECETI's podcasts, sky-watch videos, workshops, self-mastery teachings, and other resources while maintaining an open mind, a loving heart, and pure intent.
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August 14, 2026 - DPS 61 COO Tom Osborne and Assistant Superintendent of Teaching & Learning, Nicole Couri-Malson, joined Byers & Co to talk about the first week of school, focusing on spending efficiency, early age learning, and the future of the district. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 14, 2026 - Angela Foulke of the Decatur Family YMCA joined Byers & Co to talk about their search for a new Executive Director, Livestrong classes, YTots Toddler Time, swim lessons, and what she is doing for fun. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 13, 2026 - Millikin football coach Billy Riebock joined Byers & Co to talk about updates to their facilities, status of the team, hosting media day and the trading card show at the DISC, Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 13, 2026 - Former mayor Paul Osborne joined Byers & Co to talk about the Illinois State Fair, Garfield Park, and local elected officials.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 13, 2026 - Debbie Bogle of the United Way joined Byers & Co to talk about Food Truck Frenzy, Caterpillar Family Day, the WSOY Community Food Drive, and concerts. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 12, 2026Dr. Kelly Hill, Senior Director of Hospital Operations at DMH & Dr. Mohit Ajmeri, Family Medicine Physician at Memorial Care, joined Byers & Co to talk about the Memorial Therapy Center on Pershing and their open House on Thursday August 13th from 4pm to 5:30pm. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 12, 2026 - Amy Taute, Millikin Director of Alumni Engagement, Loren McGinnis, Richland Community College Assistant Director of Annual Giving and Alumni Engagement joined Byers & Co to talk about their new RCC + MU Alumni Spotlight series. These events will allow business leaders who are alumni of both RCC and MU to connect and meet the featured alumnus of both institutions. The first event will be held August 24th at Agave & Lime in Maroa and feature owner and MU & RCC alumni Marcos Fuentes. Learn more and listen to the podcast now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 12, 2026 - Clay Gerhard of the Decatur Park District joined Byers & Co to talk about the opening of the renovated Garfield Park, upcoming shows at the Devon, and Zoorific Evening. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 12, 2026 - Ashley Fultz and Maggie Comerford of ADM Cares joined Byers & Co to discuss ADM's Acts for Impact 2026. Acts for Impact is ADM's global volunteer campaign that brings ADM colleagues together across corporate and operational facilities to support local communities through meaningful volunteer opportunities. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 12, 2026 - State Senator Doris Turner joined Byers and Co to talk about the new Garfield Park improvements and the OSLAD grants as well as the regional impact of artist Preston Jackson's work in both Springfield and Decatur. Listen to the podcast now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 11, 2026 - Macon County African American Heritage Trail Co-Chairs, Natalie Beck of the Heart of Illinois Community Foundation and Julia Livingston, joined Byers & Co to talk about the new Preston Jackson sculpture of Ellsworth Dansby Jr. at the Ellsworth Dansby Jr. Magnet School, the next historical land marker on the trail, an upcoming mural, and The Big Read. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 11, 2026 - Dale Colee joined Byers & Co to preview Pharmacy Facts with Friends that will include Josh Hendricks and Mirinda Rothrock as guests, and to talk about the Stone Thrown Forward Memorial Golf Outing. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 11, 2026 - DPS 61 COO Tom Osborne joined Byers & Co to talk about the recent announcement that Eisenhower High School will not field a varsity football team for the season. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 11, 2026 - Kyle May of Fleet Feet joined Byers & Co to talk about the Diplo's Run Club 5K Run & Rave in Chicago, their first Gear Up Cross Country event, local running events, and new product updates. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 10, 2026 - Mayor Julie Moore Wolfe joined Byers & Co with Kevin Breheny to talk about the long-running community support from The Andreas Foundation, the WSOY Community Food Drive, Decatur Police Department community events, Foreigner at the Devon, and the 217 ALZ Backyard Wiffle Ball Classic. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 10, 2026 - Ben Andreas and Chrissy Spurlock of The Andreas Foundation joined Byers & Co with Kevin Breheny to talk about their support of the WSOY Community Food Drive and Chrissy's new role at the foundation. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 10, 2026 - Kevin Breheny joined Byers & Co to talk about what is keeping him busy in retirement and the WSOY Community Food Drive. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 10, 2026 - Paul Lidy and Rachael Ward of Decatur Memorial Hospital joined Byers & Co with Kevin Breheny to talk about their support of the WSOY Community Food Drive and their campaign to collect and provide breakfast cereal to those in need. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
August 10, 2026 - Dr. Juanita Morris joined Byers & Co to talk about the Jerry J. Dawson Civic Leadership Institute partnerships, their upcoming open house, work at their farm, the Community Public Safety Academy, and the WSOY Community Food Drive. Listen to the podcast now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Late Nights at BlockbusterYou think you're too cool for school…but you aren't. Our newest Late Nights at Blockbuster is celebrating the 25th anniversary of Zoolander. There are admittedly too many quotes but, as always, we don't care. Byers poses the question, is Owen Wilson the Scottie Pippen of Hollywood? As always, we surprise each other by finding a good spiritual metaphor/illustration for a ridiculous movie. Don't be scared when you see the runtime, we have a Ben Stiller draft to end the episode.Intro/Outro music by friend of the podcast Seth Gilbertson. Find more music at iTunes (https://music.apple.com/us/artist/seth-gilbertson/1155231950)and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/user/sethgilbertson/videos)
Allt fler oinbjudna besökare tar sig in i våra hem. Lyssna på alla avsnitt i Sveriges Radios app. Skadedjur har alltid krupit vid människans sida. Forskare tror att de blodtörstiga vägglössen fanns redan i stenålderns grottboningar. Genom historien har olika typer av ohyra inte bara gett oss kliande bett och förstört våra matförråd, utan också orsakat några av mänsklighetens mest förödande sjukdomsepidemier.Under några decennier på 1900-talet, när en rad nya och kraftfulla bekämpningsmedel gjorde entré, såg det ut som att människan äntligen höll på att vinna den tusenåriga kampen mot krypen.Men segervittringen blev kortvarig. Skadedjuren är tillbaka. De blir fler, de sprider sig till nya platser – och de har blivit allt svårare att bekämpa.Programledare och producent: Anna Lillkung och Wendela AntepohlOrdlistaVektor – en organism, till exempel en råtta eller en kackerlacka, som för över smittämnen mellan varelser.Patogen – ett sjukdomsframkallande smittämne, till exempel ett virus eller en bakterie.Mikrob – en organism som är så liten att den inte syns med blotta ögat, till exempel ett virus eller en bakterie.Resistens – en organisms förmåga att stå emot yttre påfrestningar, till exempel en bakterie som utvecklat motståndskraft mot en eller flera typer av antibiotika.KällförteckningMedverkandeThomas Persson Vinnersten – Biolog och entomolog på AnticimexLisa Sarasohn – Historiker och författare till Getting Under Our Skin: The Cultural and Social History of VerminBobby Corrigan – Skadedjursbiolog med fokus på gnagareÅke Lundkvist – Professor i virologi vid Uppsala universitetTuomas Aivelo – Assisterande professor i biodiversitet och samhälle vid Leiden University i Nederländerna och grundare till Helsinki Urban Rat ProjectJose Pietri – Docent i mikrobiologi och entomologi vid Purdue UniversityBöckerGetting Under Our Skin: The Cultural and Social History of Vermin (Lisa T. Sarasohn, 2021)Rats : A Year With New York's Most Unwanted Inhabitants (Robert Sullivan, 2004)Plagues, Poisons, and Dead Rats: A Multispecies History (Lucinda Cole, ur boken The Palgrave Handbook of Animals and Literature, 2020)Never Home Alone (Rob Dunn, 2020)Artiklar/källor i urvalSkadedjur i byggnader – en kunskapssammanställning (Malmö universitet på uppdrag av Boverket, 2025)Challenges in current pest management practices: Navigating problems and a way forward by integrating controlled release system approach (Singh et al., Chemical Engineering Journal, 2024)How pest control has changed in 100 years (Rentokil, 2025)Studie: Myror lika bra som gifter mot skadedjur (SvD, 2022)“They're always there”: resident experiences of living with rats in a disadvantaged urban neighbourhood (BMC Public Health, 2019)Increasing rat numbers in cities are linked to climate warming, urbanization, and human population (Science Advances, 2025)Reconsidering the “War on Rats”: What We Know From Over a Century of Research Into Municipal Rat Management (Corrigan, Himsworth, Byers, m.fl, Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution, 2022)Surveillance of Emerging Rodent-Borne Pathogens in Wastewater in Taiwan: A One Health Approach (Tropical Medicine and Infectious Disease, 2024)Bedbugs Could Be More Horrifying Than You Think. They might be capable of spreading disease, recent research shows. (The Atlantic, 2024)Anticoagulant rodenticides and resistance development in rodent pest species – A comprehensive review (Journal of Stored Products Research, 2020)Public Health Significance of Urban Pests (World Health Organization, 2008)Rodenticide Toxicity (StatPearls Publishing, 2026)Increasing rat numbers in cities are linked to climate warming, urbanization, and human population (ScienceAdvances, 2025)Public and media interest in bed bugs – Europe 2023 (Current Research in Insect Science, 2024)Large-scale structure of brown rat (Rattus norvegicus) populations in England: effects on rodenticide resistance (PeerJ, 2015)”Hysterisk” ökning av klädesmal (Sveriges Radio, 2015)Second hand–trend bidrar till att fler har problem med pälsmal i hemmen: ”Var extra noga om du köper möbler” (Smålandsposten, 2023)De äter på mattor och kläder – så blir du av med klädmal (Göteborgs-Posten, 2024)Revenge of the clothes moths: as numbers boom, can they be stopped? (The Guardian, 2019)High prevalence of hepatitis E and rat hepatitis E viruses in wastewater in Gothenburg, Sweden (One Health, 2024)Lessons learned from bat and rodent reservoir hosts of zoonotic viruses (Trends in microbiology, 2026)Human ectoparasites and the spread of plague in Europe during the Second Pandemic (Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A, 2018)Yersinia pestis: the Natural History of Plague (Clinical Microbiology Reviews, 2020)Disruption of the microbiota affects physiological and evolutionary aspects of insecticide resistance in the German cockroach, an important urban pest (PloS one, 2018)Case not closed: arguments for new studies of the interactions between bed bugs and human pathogens (The American Journal of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene, 2020)Microbiome differences between human head and body lice ecotypes revealed by 16S RRNA gene amplicon sequencing (The Journal of Parasitology, 2020)Do bed bugs transmit human viruses, or do humans spread bed bugs and their viruses? A worldwide survey of the bed bug RNA virosphere (Virus Research, 2024)Competence of Cimex lectularius Bed Bugs for the Transmission of Bartonella quintana, the Agent of Trench Fever (PLoS Negl Trop Dis., 2015)Ratmageddon: Why rats are overrunning our cities (BBC, 2025)‘Perfect rat storm': urban rodent numbers soar as the climate heats, study finds (The Guardian, 2025)Global population divergence and admixture of the brown rat (Rattus norvegicus) (Biological Sciences, 2016)Highly Pathogenic Leptospira Found in Urban Brown Rats (Rattus norvegicus) in the Largest Cities of Sweden. (Vector Borne and Zoonotic Disease, 2015)First evidence of Seoul hantavirus in the wild rat population in the Netherlands (Infection Ecology & Epidemiology, 2015)Pet rat harbouring Seoul hantavirus in Sweden (Eurosurveillence, 2013)Seoul Hantavirus Frequently Asked Questions (Wisconsin department of health services)Leptospira Status in Sweden during the Past Century, Neglected and Re-Emerging? (Microorganisms, 2023)Bed bug infestations: prevalence, correlates, and cross-sectional association with psychological symptoms in a large sample of tenants in Montreal, Canada (BMC Public Health, 2025)Anticimex: Trendbrott för vägglöss – 19 procent fler saneringar 2025 (Anticimex, 2026)Rats infest Gaza's tent camps, biting children and spreading disease (Reuters, 2026)Reconsidering the “War on Rats”: What We Know From Over a Century of Research Into Municipal Rat Management (Frontiers in ecology and evolution, 2022)Cockroaches as urban pests: Challenges, public health implications, and management strategies (One Health, 2026)HURP: Helsinki Urban Rat ProjectHow did the cruise ship hantavirus outbreak start? Scientists are investigating new scenarios (Science, 2026)A timeline of the hantavirus outbreak on cruise ship (AP, 2026)Hantavirus outbreak linked to cruise ship travel, Multi-locations (World Health Organization, 2026)Sjukdomsinformation om hantavirusinfektion (Folkhälsomyndigheten)Mjölbaggar erövrar studentboendet: ”Inte mitt hem längre” (SVT, 2025)Silent Carriers: The Role of Rodents in the Emergence of Zoonotic Bacterial Threats (Pathogens, 2025)8 av 10 stockholmare har sett råttor (Anticimex, 2019)Silverfiskar vanligast men inte så farliga (Hem & Hyra, 2017)MusikGeoff Barrow, Ben Salisbury – Dream RealityCristobal Tapia De Veer – Pain SpeedballKid Loco – Theme from the Graffiti ArtistMarcus Bagalà – Duco in Mara's RoomCliff Martinez – I'm in the PinkMarcus Bagalà – Frets: Problem, After ProblemMartin D Fowler – 1 Ships VIIRamin Djawadi – Winter is ComingAlberto Iglesias – TreasureCliff Martinez – Save Some For UsJocelyn Pook – Driving to PrisonCliff Martinez – I'm SickAlice Cooper – PoisonCliff Martinez – Placental RepairJessica Dannheisser, Adele Roberts – Parade of the GeeseCliff Martinez – Speight Lived HereOchre – Midsummer Nice DreamMarcus Bagalà – Wires: WinchimesMichael Andrews – Peter and SylvieK2 – Bexar BexarCliff Martinez – Navy FuneralMike Patton – Murder is WorkMartin D Fowler – 1 Ships XIITrent Reznor, Atticus Ross – Empty Places (Reprise)Cliff Martinez – Same SweatpantsCristobal Tapia De Veer – The PublicJeff Beal – I think I Smell GasTrentemöller – Take Me Into Your SkinTrent Reznor, Atticus Ross – Clue OneKyle Dixon, Michael Stein – ElevenStar Hopper – Through the HeliopausePaul Leonard-Morgan – Anderson's ThemeMartin D Fowler – 1 Ships IIIJon Brion – You LearnThe Mariachis – La Cucaracha
In Oklahoma, the Edmondson family was royalty. For decades, the Edmondson name had been synonymous with public service, integrity, and leadership. Some people even called them "the Kennedys of Oklahoma." It was because, generation after generation, they answered the call to serve. Sarah's grandfather served in the United States Congress. Her great-uncle was both the governor of Oklahoma and, later, a U.S. senator. Her uncle served as the state's attorney general. And her father, Jim Edmondson, would become a justice on the Oklahoma Supreme Court. Their reputation had been built on a deep commitment to the people of Oklahoma. The Edmondsons weren't known for scandal. And then came Sarah. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss ‘From Fiction to Fatal: William Savage & Patsy Byers.' Shout out to Jason P, who suggested the episode! Promo from our friend Chris at They're Not Shadows notshadowspodcast@gmail.com Listener discretion is by @octoberpodVHS Music and editing by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2773056/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Killers_copycat_crimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Edmondson https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1995/09/10/cold-blood/82d33fa3-5700-4585-bfc1-858e2dea9d4f/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-09-25-ls-49759-story.html https://pardonletter.wordpress.com/category/sarah-edmondson/ https://www.rcfp.org/judge-dismisses-natural-born-killers-incitement-case/ https://law.justia.com/cases/louisiana/first-circuit-court-of-appeal/1998/97-ca-0831.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/crime-rewind-natural-born-killers-205200935.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-supreme-court/1455991.html https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2010/05/20/sarah-edmondson-to-serve-parole-in-oklahoma/61245352007/ https://ew.com/article/1999/08/06/natural-born-killers-creates-controversy/ https://web.archive.org/web/20081206030915/http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=3962 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-09-25-ls-49759-story.html https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1217642.stm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices