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The Future of Everything presented by Stanford Engineering

With TikTok in the hands of 170 million Americans, cybersecurity expert Amy Zegart says it's time to talk about consequences. Foreign access to all that data on so many Americans is a national security threat, she asserts. For those as concerned as she, Zegart has good news and bad. The government has gotten better at fighting cyberthreats, but artificial intelligence is making things very complicated, very fast. The US needs to adapt quickly to keep pace, Zegart tells host Russ Altman on this episode of Stanford Engineering's The Future of Everything podcast.Episode Reference Links:Amy Zegart's Stanford ProfileHoover Institution Profile: WebsiteEp.20 How Vulnerable Are We to Cyber Attacks? (Amy's previous episode on The Future of Everything)Connect With Us:Episode Transcripts >>> The Future of Everything WebsiteConnect with Russ >>> Threads or Twitter/XConnect with School of Engineering >>> Twitter/XChapters:(00:00:00) Introduction Host Russ Altman introduces guest Amy Zegart, a cybersecurity expert from Stanford University.(00:02:37) Government and Cybersecurity SpeedsHow AI has changed the pace at which both government and cyber attackers operate, and the evolving dynamics of cybersecurity efforts.(00:04:12) Corporate CybersecurityThe unexpected role of the SEC in regulating corporate cybersecurity efforts and how the cyber attack surface has expanded beyond traditional big industries(00:07:30) Global Cyber Threats and PreparednessInsights into the strategic use of cyber operations by other countries, and the multifaceted nature of international cyber relations.(00:09:13) Cyber Dynamics in the Russia-Ukraine ConflictThe cyber aspects of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and its implications for global cybersecurity strategies.(00:11:35) Misinformation and Disinformation DynamicsThe difference between misinformation and disinformation, their impacts on society and the challenges in combating them.(00:15:04) TikTok and National SecurityRisks associated with TikTok as a platform controlled by Chinese interests, discussing data privacy and potential for foreign influence.(00:20:11) Corporate Power in AI and National SecurityThe role of corporations in national security through their control over AI, and the challenges this poses for regulation and innovation.(00:22:47) Learning from Cybersecurity to Manage AI RisksLessons from cybersecurity that could help manage emerging AI risks, highlighting the need for developing independent AI research capacities.(00:26:44) European Regulation and Global AI SafetyThe European approach to AI regulation and data protection, advocating for international AI safety norms and collaborative efforts.(00:29:21) AI's Role in Enhancing IntelligenceHow AI can transform intelligence services, and advancements that could lead to significant efficiency gains in national security.(00:31:23) Conclusion  Connect With Us:Episode Transcripts >>> The Future of Everything WebsiteConnect with Russ >>> Threads or Twitter/XConnect with School of Engineering >>> Twitter/X

SpyCast
From the Vault: “Baseball & Espionage” –with World Series Champion Ryan Zimmerman & Marc Polymeropoulos (Part 1 of 2)

SpyCast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2023 65:16


Summary Ryan Zimmerman (MLB Stats; Wikipedia) and Marc Polymeropoulos (Twitter; LinkedIn) join Andrew to discuss intelligence and America's pastime. From the SpyCast Field of Dreams. What You'll Learn Intelligence Sign-stealing and codebreaking Glue guys and teamwork Ethics in baseball and espionage Clutch and pinch hitters in espionage and baseball Reflections Daring to fail Stepping up to the plate of life And much, much more… Episode Notes Buy me some peanuts and crackerjack. Few things in the world compare to sitting back, putting your feet up, and cracking open a cold one while watching the World Series.  For the 2021 World Series Marc joined us for a fantastic discussion on the links between baseball and espionage. How do we top that? A baseball fanatic ex-CIA officer?  Why, how about getting a first-round draft pick, World Series Champion with over 6500 at-bats? Done! Enter Ryan Zimmerman, Mr. National!  Ever wondered about signs-stealing, how to run a baseball counterintelligence operation, or what some of the many, many links are between baseball and espionage? You've come to the right place for a discussion that goes to the bottom of the ninth inning over a two-episode conversation. Ryan played for the Nationals from 2005, when he was a first-round draft pick, through to 2021, when his #11 jersey was retired. He is an ex- All-Star, Silver Slugger, Gold Glove winner, and 2019 World Series Champion.  Marc is a highly decorated former CIA operations officer who specialized in counterterrorism, the Middle East, and South Asia. Prior to his retirement, he served at CIA headquarters in charge of clandestine operations in Europe and Eurasia. He is the author of the 2021 book, “Clarity in Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the CIA.” And… “Big Data” is upending many fields, not least baseball and espionage. Gaining a competitive edge is central to both activities, the big argument is about how much “soul” is lost along the way. The Houston Astros have been a lighting-rod team, whose “smart and modern” or “cold and cynical” approach has been discussed at Penn's Wharton School of Business and in the pages of the Harvard Business Review.  Quotes of the Week "I think “Dare to Fail” is enormous. I would want you to put me up at the bases load in the bottom of the ninth. I'll take it every single time. Even if I feel like I have zero chance, I want to be there." - Ryan Zimmerman "You know, you have to have that mentality in these professions." - Marc Polymeropoulos Resources *Andrew's Recommendation* Moneyball, M. Lewis (W.W. Norton, 2004) Love it or hate it, this is the first port of call for any reckoning of baseball and analytics.  *SpyCasts* “Baseball & Espionage” – with Marc Polymeropoulos (2021) *Beginner Resources* Spy Agencies Struggling in Age of Big Data, A. Zegart, Wired (2022) [article] Baseball Analytics for the Casual Fan, Simple Sabermetrics (2020) [7 min video] Beginners Guide to Baseball Analytics, N. Allen, Fansided (2018) [article] Best Baseball Analytics Resources, Simple Sabermetrics (2022) Books Spies, Lies and Algorithms, A. Zegart (PUP, 2022) The Catcher Was a Spy: Moe Berg, N. Dawidoff (Pantheon, 1994) Articles Baseball and Cybersecurity, S. Handler, Atlantic Council (2020) Baseball's Rude Welcome to Age of Cyberespionage, N. Paine, 538 (2015) The Man Who Remade Basketball, M. McCluskey, Wired (2014) Baseball on Exhibit: Musuems in the SABR Era, Z. Jendro, SABR (2011) Video Lessons from the CIA's Analytic Front-Lines, B. Pease, JHU (2022) Sabermetrics 101: Baseball Analytics, A. Andres, Talks at Google (2016) CIA's Chief Information Officer - Advanced Analytics, D. Wolfe, O'Reilly (2015) Primary Sources The PC Goes to Bat (1984) *Wildcard Resource* Get “Analytics Certification” from the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) - which is where the term “sabermetrics” comes from!

Deep Dish on Global Affairs
Revisiting AI, Disruption, and the Future of Spying

Deep Dish on Global Affairs

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2023 37:23


On Deep Dish, we're revisiting our conversation about the world of espionage and the secrets of intelligence gathering with Amy Zegart, author of Spies, Lies, and Algorithms. As new technology continues to disrupt all aspects of our lives, Zegart explains how these innovations are changing espionage and why spy myths perpetuated by Hollywood often get in the way of understanding threats. [This episode originally aired: March 24, 2022] Related Content:   Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, Amy Zegart, Princeton University Press, February 1, 2022  Senate Intelligence Hearing on Worldwide Threats, PBS NewsHour, March 8, 2023  National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence, Final Report, March 19, 2021

Freedom Pact
#271: Prof Amy Zegart - Intelligence Agencies, Tik Tok, 9/11 Mistakes, Cyberwars & More

Freedom Pact

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2023 52:04


Dr Amy Zegart is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and Professor of Political Science at Stanford University. Amy is also the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Chair of Stanford's Artificial Intelligence and International Security Steering Committee, and a contributing writer at The Atlantic. Dr Zegart specializes in U.S. intelligence, cybersecurity, emerging technologies and national security, and global political risk management. In this conversation today, Amy and I discuss a wide range of topics. Such as: - What is the role of an intelligence agency? - How the US knew about Russia's invasion of Ukraine down to the hour - The dangers of Tik Tok - 2016 & 2020 election interference - Are the UK & US prepared for a cyberwar? - Much more! Buy Amy's latest book, 'Spies, lies and algorithms' here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/CIA-101/dp/0... Connect with Amy: https://twitter.com/AmyZegart?s=20&t=... Connect with us: Connect with us: https://www.youtube.com/c/FreedomPact​ (video interviews) https://freedompact.co.uk/newsletter​ (Healthy, Wealthy & Wise Newsletter) https://instagram.com/freedompact​ https://twitter.com/freedompactpod Timestamps: 00:00 coming up 01:10 - The role of intelligence agencies 07:23 - How French bread Won The Revolution 09:33 - AI is changing intelligence agencies 12:54 - Russia & Ukraine 14:41 - Big Tech 16:61 - Tik Tok 23:26 - Policymakers are worried about Elon 26:18 - Russian election interference 30:01- 9/11 mistakes 37:30 - Social media exposed Iran 40:38 - Ethics 43:12 - Edward Snowden & Julian Assange 47:51 - Is Alexa listening to me? 51:00 - Connect with Amy

SpyCast
“Baseball & Espionage” –with World Series Champion Ryan Zimmerman & Marc Polymeropoulos (Part 2 of 2)

SpyCast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 70:51


Summary Ryan Zimmerman (MLB Stats; Wikipedia) and Marc Polymeropoulos (Twitter; LinkedIn) join Andrew to discuss intelligence and America's pastime. From the SpyCast Field of Dreams. What You'll Learn Intelligence Sign-stealing and codebreaking Glue guys and teamwork Ethics in baseball and espionage Clutch and pinch hitters in espionage and baseball Reflections Daring to fail Stepping up to the plate of life And much, much more… Episode Notes Buy me some peanuts and crackerjack. Few things in the world compare to sitting back, putting your feet up, and cracking open a cold one while watching the World Series.  For the 2021 World Series Marc joined us for a fantastic discussion on the links between baseball and espionage. How do we top that? A baseball fanatic ex-CIA officer?  Why, how about getting a first-round draft pick, World Series Champion with over 6500 at-bats? Done! Enter Ryan Zimmerman, Mr. National!  Ever wondered about signs-stealing, how to run a baseball counterintelligence operation, or what some of the many, many links are between baseball and espionage? You've come to the right place for a discussion that goes to the bottom of the ninth inning over a two-episode conversation. Ryan played for the Nationals from 2005, when he was a first-round draft pick, through to 2021, when his #11 jersey was retired. He is an ex- All-Star, Silver Slugger, Gold Glove winner, and 2019 World Series Champion.  Marc is a highly decorated former CIA operations officer who specialized in counterterrorism, the Middle East, and South Asia. Prior to his retirement, he served at CIA headquarters in charge of clandestine operations in Europe and Eurasia. He is the author of the 2021 book, “Clarity in Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the CIA.” And… “Big Data” is upending many fields, not least baseball and espionage. Gaining a competitive edge is central to both activities, the big argument is about how much “soul” is lost along the way. The Houston Astros have been a lighting-rod team, whose “smart and modern” or “cold and cynical” approach has been discussed at Penn's Wharton School of Business and in the pages of the Harvard Business Review.  Quotes of the Week "I think “Dare to Fail” is enormous. I would want you to put me up at the bases load in the bottom of the ninth. I'll take it every single time. Even if I feel like I have zero chance, I want to be there." - Ryan Zimmerman "You know, you have to have that mentality in these professions." - Marc Polymeropoulos Resources *Andrew's Recommendation* Moneyball, M. Lewis (W.W. Norton, 2004) Love it or hate it, this is the first port of call for any reckoning of baseball and analytics.  *SpyCasts* “Baseball & Espionage” – with Marc Polymeropoulos (2021) *Beginner Resources* Spy Agencies Struggling in Age of Big Data, A. Zegart, Wired (2022) [article] Baseball Analytics for the Casual Fan, Simple Sabermetrics (2020) [7 min video] Beginners Guide to Baseball Analytics, N. Allen, Fansided (2018) [article] Best Baseball Analytics Resources, Simple Sabermetrics (2022) Books Spies, Lies and Algorithms, A. Zegart (PUP, 2022) The Catcher Was a Spy: Moe Berg, N. Dawidoff (Pantheon, 1994) Articles Baseball and Cybersecurity, S. Handler, Atlantic Council (2020) Baseball's Rude Welcome to Age of Cyberespionage, N. Paine, 538 (2015) The Man Who Remade Basketball, M. McCluskey, Wired (2014) Baseball on Exhibit: Musuems in the SABR Era, Z. Jendro, SABR (2011) Video Lessons from the CIA's Analytic Front-Lines, B. Pease, JHU (2022) Sabermetrics 101: Baseball Analytics, A. Andres, Talks at Google (2016) CIA's Chief Information Officer - Advanced Analytics, D. Wolfe, O'Reilly (2015) Primary Sources The PC Goes to Bat (1984) *Wildcard Resource* Get “Analytics Certification” from the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) - which is where the term “sabermetrics” comes from!

SpyCast
“Baseball & Espionage” –with World Series Champion Ryan Zimmerman & Marc Polymeropoulos

SpyCast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2022 62:53


Summary Ryan Zimmerman (MLB Stats; Wikipedia) and Marc Polymeropoulos (Twitter; LinkedIn) join Andrew to discuss intelligence and America's pastime. From the SpyCast Field of Dreams. What You'll Learn Intelligence Sign-stealing and codebreaking Glue guys and teamwork Ethics in baseball and espionage Clutch and pinch hitters in espionage and baseball Reflections Daring to fail Stepping up to the plate of life And much, much more… Episode Notes Buy me some peanuts and crackerjack. Few things in the world compare to sitting back, putting your feet up, and cracking open a cold one while watching the World Series.  For the 2021 World Series Marc joined us for a fantastic discussion on the links between baseball and espionage. How do we top that? A baseball fanatic ex-CIA officer?  Why, how about getting a first-round draft pick, World Series Champion with over 6500 at-bats? Done! Enter Ryan Zimmerman, Mr. National!  Ever wondered about signs-stealing, how to run a baseball counterintelligence operation, or what some of the many, many links are between baseball and espionage? You've come to the right place for a discussion that goes to the bottom of the ninth inning over a two-episode conversation. Ryan played for the Nationals from 2005, when he was a first-round draft pick, through to 2021, when his #11 jersey was retired. He is an ex- All-Star, Silver Slugger, Gold Glove winner, and 2019 World Series Champion.  Marc is a highly decorated former CIA operations officer who specialized in counterterrorism, the Middle East, and South Asia. Prior to his retirement, he served at CIA headquarters in charge of clandestine operations in Europe and Eurasia. He is the author of the 2021 book, “Clarity in Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the CIA.” And… “Big Data” is upending many fields, not least baseball and espionage. Gaining a competitive edge is central to both activities, the big argument is about how much “soul” is lost along the way. The Houston Astros have been a lighting-rod team, whose “smart and modern” or “cold and cynical” approach has been discussed at Penn's Wharton School of Business and in the pages of the Harvard Business Review.  Quotes of the Week "I think “Dare to Fail” is enormous. I would want you to put me up at the bases load in the bottom of the ninth. I'll take it every single time. Even if I feel like I have zero chance, I want to be there." - Ryan Zimmerman "You know, you have to have that mentality in these professions." - Marc Polymeropoulos Resources *Andrew's Recommendation* Moneyball, M. Lewis (W.W. Norton, 2004) Love it or hate it, this is the first port of call for any reckoning of baseball and analytics.  *SpyCasts* “Baseball & Espionage” – with Marc Polymeropoulos (2021) *Beginner Resources* Spy Agencies Struggling in Age of Big Data, A. Zegart, Wired (2022) [article] Baseball Analytics for the Casual Fan, Simple Sabermetrics (2020) [7 min video] Beginners Guide to Baseball Analytics, N. Allen, Fansided (2018) [article] Best Baseball Analytics Resources, Simple Sabermetrics (2022) Books Spies, Lies and Algorithms, A. Zegart (PUP, 2022) The Catcher Was a Spy: Moe Berg, N. Dawidoff (Pantheon, 1994) Articles Baseball and Cybersecurity, S. Handler, Atlantic Council (2020) Baseball's Rude Welcome to Age of Cyberespionage, N. Paine, 538 (2015) The Man Who Remade Basketball, M. McCluskey, Wired (2014) Baseball on Exhibit: Musuems in the SABR Era, Z. Jendro, SABR (2011) Video Lessons from the CIA's Analytic Front-Lines, B. Pease, JHU (2022) Sabermetrics 101: Baseball Analytics, A. Andres, Talks at Google (2016) CIA's Chief Information Officer - Advanced Analytics, D. Wolfe, O'Reilly (2015) Primary Sources The PC Goes to Bat (1984) *Wildcard Resource* Get “Analytics Certification” from the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) - which is where the term “sabermetrics” comes from!

Intelligence Matters
Best Of: Stanford Professor and Author Amy Zegart

Intelligence Matters

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2022 34:49


In this "Best Of" episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Amy Zegart, the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Professor of Political Science at Stanford University about her new book, "Spies, Lies and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence." Morell and Zegart discuss the impact of emerging technologies on intelligence collection and analysis, both of which, Zegart says, have been fundamentally changed by developments like artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and commercial satellite imagery. Zegart also outlines the five "mores" - more threats, more speed, more data, more customers and more competitors - that she says have made the work of intelligence newly challenging. This episode was originally released in February 2022. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Uncommon Knowledge
Are We Dumb about Intelligence? Amy Zegart on the Capabilities of American Intel Gathering

Uncommon Knowledge

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 58:52


Amy Zegart is a fellow at the Hoover Institution, a professor of political science at Stanford University, and the author of a new book, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence. In this frank conversation, Zegart grades American intelligence-gathering operations, recent and historical, and compares them to their counterparts in China and Russia. Professor Zegart also discusses Silicon Valley's crucial role in these operations and how they often conflict with the politics of the people running tech companies. Finally, Zegart discusses the crucial ability of the intelligence community to recruit the next generation of spies and analysts, some of whom may be her own students. Recorded on March 17, 2022

The Realignment
219 | Amy B. Zegart: Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The Future of U.S. Intelligence After Ukraine

The Realignment

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2022 49:20


For Day 14 of The Realignment's daily Ukraine coverage, Marshall talks with Dr. Amy Zegart, author of Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence. Dr. Zegart discusses how the release of classified intelligence before Russia's invasion of Ukraine will reshape geopolitics, how to think about intelligence failures in Afghanistan and Iraq, and provides an overview of the structure and make-up of the U.S. intelligence community. SEND US A TIP: https://app.swapstack.co/tips/the-realignment REALIGNMENT NEWSLETTER: https://therealignment.substack.com/ BOOKSHOP: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignment

Global I.Q. with Jim Falk
SPIES, LIES AND ALGORITHMS - THE HISTORY AND FUTURE OF AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE

Global I.Q. with Jim Falk

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2022 56:46


There are countless examples of spies in modern popular culture. There are not, however, many examples of the reality behind modern espionage, a world that's changing faster than most people realize. Rapid advances in technology, combined with ever-changing geopolitical dynamics, have created an intelligence world that Dr. Amy Zegart argues looks quite different from what is portrayed in spy novels, television shows, and movies. In Spies, Lies, and Algorithms, Dr. Zegart takes readers through the long history of American espionage, from George Washington's Revolutionary War spies to the present day, providing context for the reality faced by American intelligence professionals today, and laying out what the modern landscape looks like today and where it may be heading. Considered “one of the ten most influential experts in intelligence reform” by the National Journal, Dr. Zegart has served in presidential administrations, co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice, and published award-winning research on intelligence failures leading up to the September 11 attacks. Dr. Amy Zegart is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University, where she is also the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the university's Hoover Institution. She is a professor of political science and chair of Stanford's Artificial Intelligence and International Security Steering Committee. She is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and the author of five books on intelligence topics. Dr. Zegart holds an A.B. in East Asian studies from Harvard University, as well as an M.A. and a Ph.D. in political science from Stanford University. Moderated by Jess Koloini, Senior Program Manager, F-16 Programs, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Jess Koloini is the Senior Program Manager for F-16 Block 72 Programs at Lockheed Martin Aeronautics (LM Aero). In this role, she leads all activity related to platform development and delivery, working closely with multiple U.S. Government stakeholders across Program Management and Policy organizations. Prior to this role, Jess was the F-16 Program Manager for the Kingdom of Jordan, the Kingdom of Morocco, and the Sultanate of Oman, supporting all Sustainment and Production activities for each country. . . Do you believe in the importance of international education and connections? The nonprofit World Affairs Council of Dallas/Fort Worth is supported by gifts from people like you, who share our passion for engaging in dialogue on global affairs and building bridges of understanding. While the Council is not currently charging admission for virtual events, we ask you to please consider making a one-time or recurring gift to help us keep the conversation going through informative public programs and targeted events for students and teachers. Donate: https://www.dfwworld.org/donate

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast
Amy Zegart: Spies, Lies and Algorithms

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 65:21


Amy Zegart is one of America's leading intelligence experts, but she recognizes that few people understand the world of spying, at a time when it has never been more ubiquitous, particularly using technology. She hopes to change this situation. In Spies, Lies, and Algorithms, Zegart separates fact from fiction on spying and offers an account of the past, present and future of American espionage as it faces a revolution driven by digital technology. Zegart explores the history of U.S. espionage, from George Washington's Revolutionary War spies to today's spy satellites; examines how fictional spies are influencing real officials; gives an overview of intelligence basics and life inside America's intelligence agencies; explains the deadly cognitive biases that can mislead analysts; and explores the complicated issues of traitors, covert action and congressional oversight. Zegart also provides an important description of how technology is empowering new enemies and opportunities, and creating powerful new players, in espionage—including private citizens using their home computers and sophisticated technology available by a click. Zegart will discuss these topics and more when she returns to The Commonwealth Club. Please join us for an important conversation on a critical national security subject that many discuss, but few understand. SPEAKERS Amy Zegart Senior Fellow, Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University; Author, Spies, Lies and Algorithms Quentin Hardy Head of Editorial, Google Cloud In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on February 16th, 2022 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Talks from the Hoover Institution
Spies, Lies, And Algorithms: A Conversation With Amy Zegart And Condoleezza Rice

Talks from the Hoover Institution

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 53:37


Tuesday, February 22, 2022 Hoover Institution, Stanford University   The Hoover Institution hosts Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: A Conversation with Amy Zegart and Condoleezza Rice on Tuesday, February 22 from 3:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. PT.  Please join us for a conversation with Amy Zegart as part of her tour with her new book Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence. The conversation will be moderated by Director Condoleezza Rice with an introduction by Michael McFaul. “Today we face a critical juncture for American spy agencies, as big as 9/11 — only most people don't know it,” says Amy B. Zegart, one of the country's leading experts on intelligence and a professor at Stanford University. “New dangers come from tech, not terrorists. Emerging technologies like AI and social media are weakening the strong and empowering the weak, fundamentally changing dynamics of international conflict. To be blunt: The U.S. is losing its intelligence advantage.” To help us better understand these looming threats, Zegart has written Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence (Princeton University Press; February 1, 2022). It's the first comprehensive book on the past, present, and future of American intelligence—and outlines what's urgently needed to protect our nation today. The book draws on over thirty years of research (including new research just for this book) and hundreds of interviews with current and former intelligence officials.  Weak intelligence makes us more vulnerable to attacks on our power grids, water supply, elections, corporate network servers, and nuclear weapons. Helping the American public better understand these evolving threats is crucial. ABOUT THE SPEAKERS Amy Zegart is the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Professor of Political Science (by courtesy) at Stanford University. She is also a Senior Fellow at Stanford's Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, Chair of Stanford's Artificial Intelligence and International Security Steering Committee, and a contributing writer at The Atlantic. She specializes in U.S. intelligence, emerging technologies and national security, grand strategy, and global political risk management. The author of five books, Zegart's award-winning research includes the leading academic study of intelligence failures before 9/11 — Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11 (Princeton 2007). Her forthcoming book, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms (Princeton 2022) examines technological challenges to American intelligence. Zegart's research has been published in The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and elsewhere. She has served on the NSC staff, advised senior officials about intelligence and foreign policy, and most recently served as a commissioner on the 2020 CSIS Technology and Intelligence Task Force. She received an A.B. in East Asian studies magna cum laude from Harvard University and an M.A. and Ph.D. in political science from Stanford University. Condoleezza Rice is the Tad and Dianne Taube Director of the Hoover Institution and its Thomas and Barbara Stephenson Senior Fellow on Public Policy. She is also a founding partner of Rice, Hadley, Gates & Manuel LLC, an international strategic consulting firm. Rice currently serves on the board of online-storage technology company Dropbox, energy software company C3, and Makena Capital, a private endowment firm; and is a member of the boards of the George W. Bush Institute, the Commonwealth Club, the Aspen Institute, and the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Previously, Rice served on various additional boards, including those of KiOR Inc., the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the Transamerica Corporation, the Hewlett-Packard Company, the University of Notre Dame, the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts,and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. From 2005 to 2009, Rice served as the sixty-sixth secretary of state of the United States, the second woman and first African American woman to hold the post. Rice also served as assistant to the president for National Security Affairs for President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005, the first woman to hold this position. Michael A. McFaul is the Peter and Helen Bing Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution as well as a professor of political science, director and senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University. He also currently works as a news analyst for NBC.  His areas of expertise include international relations, Russian politics, comparative democratization, and American foreign policy.  From January 2012 to February 2014, he served as the US ambassador to the Russian Federation.  Before becoming ambassador, he served for three years as a special assistant to the president and senior director for Russian and Eurasian Affairs at the National Security Council. 

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast
Amy Zegart: Spies, Lies and Algorithms

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 65:21


Amy Zegart is one of America's leading intelligence experts, but she recognizes that few people understand the world of spying, at a time when it has never been more ubiquitous, particularly using technology. She hopes to change this situation. In Spies, Lies, and Algorithms, Zegart separates fact from fiction on spying and offers an account of the past, present and future of American espionage as it faces a revolution driven by digital technology. Zegart explores the history of U.S. espionage, from George Washington's Revolutionary War spies to today's spy satellites; examines how fictional spies are influencing real officials; gives an overview of intelligence basics and life inside America's intelligence agencies; explains the deadly cognitive biases that can mislead analysts; and explores the complicated issues of traitors, covert action and congressional oversight. Zegart also provides an important description of how technology is empowering new enemies and opportunities, and creating powerful new players, in espionage—including private citizens using their home computers and sophisticated technology available by a click. Zegart will discuss these topics and more when she returns to The Commonwealth Club. Please join us for an important conversation on a critical national security subject that many discuss, but few understand. SPEAKERS Amy Zegart Senior Fellow, Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University; Author, Spies, Lies and Algorithms Quentin Hardy Head of Editorial, Google Cloud In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on February 16th, 2022 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI Radio in New York
Amy Zegart on Spies, Lies, and Algorithms

Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI Radio in New York

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2022 54:57


Author Amy Zegart provides an analysis of her latest publication -- Spies, Lies, and Algorithms, in which she draws on decades of research and hundreds of interviews with intelligence officials. Zegart provides a history of U.S. espionage, from George Washington's Revolutionary War spies to today's spy satellites. She examines how fictional spies are influencing real officials and gives an overview of intelligence basics and life inside America's intelligence agencies. Zegart has been featured by the National Journal as one of the ten most influential experts in intelligence reform. She has served as a commissioner on the 2020 CSIS Technology and Intelligence Task Force and has advised the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence. She served on the Clinton administration's National Security Council staff and as a foreign policy adviser to the Bush 2000 presidential campaign. She has also testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and advised senior officials on intelligence, homeland security and cybersecurity matters. Amy Zegart is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University. Tune in to Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI 99.5FM to hear Zegart separate fact from fiction, as she offers an engaging and enlightening account of the past, present and future of American espionage as it faces a revolution driven by digital technology.

Kentucky Author Forum
Amy Zegart and Scott Shane

Kentucky Author Forum

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2022 37:25


Author and professor Amy Zegart discusses her book “Spies, Lies, and Algorithms” with journalist Scott Shane. Amy Zegart is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, as well as a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute of International Studies at Stanford University. She is a contributing writer to The Atlantic and has written five previous books, including co-authoring with Condoleezza Rice “Political Risk: How Businesses and Organizations Can Anticipate Global Insecurity,” based on their popular Stanford MBA course. Zegart specializes in U.S. intelligence, emerging technologies, national security, grand strategy, and global political risk management. Scott Shane is a journalist and author who spent 15 years covering national security and other subjects for The New York Times, where he won the Pulitzer Prize with Times colleagues in 2017 and in 2018 for stories on Russia's interference in the 2016 election. His most recent book is “Objective Troy: A Terrorist, A President, and the Rise of the Drone.” Shane has written on interrogation and torture, terrorism and targeted killing, WikiLeaks and secrecy, the National Security Agency and many other topics. He reported for 21 years for The Baltimore Sun and is a former Moscow correspondent whose first book, “Dismantling Utopia,” is a firsthand account of the Soviet Union's collapse.

Talking Beats with Daniel Lelchuk
Ep. 128: Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence with Amy Zegart

Talking Beats with Daniel Lelchuk

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 51:20


"There's a growing realization that great power competition is back. That Russia and China are much more serious competitors than we thought they were." Expert on American intelligence Amy Zegart joins the show, along with her new book Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence. A look at the past, present, and future of the American intelligence world, the book pushes readers to think more deeply about the institutions charged with keeping our country safe. As Amy and Daniel discuss, America cannot function properly if the citizens do not trust the major institutions of the country-- and that includes our massive intelligence apparatus. With forays into spy novels, music, figures such as Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, and the deep polarizing tenor of today's conversation, the conversation goes in surprising and sometimes shocking direction. If you like what we do, please support the show. By making a one-time or recurring donation, you will contribute to us being able to present the highest quality substantive, long-form interviews with the world's most compelling people. Amy Zegart is the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Professor of Political Science (by courtesy) at Stanford University. She is also a Senior Fellow at Stanford's Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, Chair of Stanford's Artificial Intelligence and International Security Steering Committee, and a contributing writer at The Atlantic. She specializes in U.S. intelligence, emerging technologies and national security, grand strategy, and global political risk management. Zegart has been featured by the National Journal as one of the ten most influential experts in intelligence reform. Most recently, she served as a commissioner on the 2020 CSIS Technology and Intelligence Task Force (co-chaired by Avril Haines and Stephanie O'Sullivan) and has advised the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence. She served on the Clinton administration's National Security Council staff and as a foreign policy adviser to the Bush 2000 presidential campaign. She has also testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and advised senior officials on intelligence, homeland security, and cybersecurity matters. The author of five books, Zegart's award-winning research includes the leading academic study of intelligence failures before 9/11 — Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11 (Princeton 2007). She co-edited with Herbert LinBytes, Bombs, and Spies: The Strategic Dimensions of Offensive Cyber Operations (Brookings 2019). She and Condoleezza Rice co-authored Political Risk: How Businesses and Organizations Can Anticipate Global Insecurity (Twelve 2018) based on their popular Stanford MBA course. Zegart's forthcoming book is Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence(Princeton 2022). Her research has also been published in International Securityand other academic journals as well as Foreign Affairs, the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal. A native of Louisville, Kentucky, Zegart received an A.B. in East Asian studies magna cum laude from Harvard University and an M.A. and Ph.D. in political science from Stanford University. She serves on the board of directors of Kratos Defense & Security Solutions (KTOS) and the Capital Group.

KQED’s Forum
How a High-Tech 'Deception Revolution' is Transforming the World of Espionage

KQED’s Forum

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 41:00


Russia is planning to release a video of a fake Ukrainian attack that it would use to justify an invasion, U.S. officials said on Thursday. The Kremlin has denied the charge. But according to Stanford intelligence expert Amy Zegart, so-called deepfake videos and photographs are among the biggest challenges facing U.S. spy agencies. We are living in an era when bad actors can cause “massive disruption, destruction, and deception with the click of a mouse,” she writes in her new book, “Spies, Lies, and Algorithms.” Zegart joins us to talk about the book and the future of espionage in an era of artificial intelligence and cyberwarfare.

Net Assessment
The Biden Doctrine: Muddling Through?

Net Assessment

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 62:27


As observers in Washington look back at the Biden administration's first year and prepare for its forthcoming national security and defense strategies, the Net Assessment crew debates the virtues of muddling through. Does the Biden team have a grand plan? Does it need one? And are errors of omission worse than those of commission? Chris, Melanie, and Zack debate recent articles on muddling through by Josh Rovner, Richard Fontaine, and Anne-Marie Slaughter. Chris gives an attaboy to Tom Brady, since he hasn't won enough already. Melanie issues both a grievance and an attaboy to Newt Gingrich. And Zack hails the wonders of easily available satellite imagery. Links:  Joshua Rovner, “How Long can Biden Muddle Through on China?” War on the Rocks, Jan. 26, 2022, https://warontherocks.com/2022/01/how-long-can-biden-muddle-through-on-china/.  Richard Fontaine, “The Case Against Foreign Policy Solutionism,” Foreign Affairs, Feb. 8, 2021, https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-02-08/case-against-foreign-policy-solutionism.  Richard Fontaine, “Washington's Missing China Strategy,” Foreign Affairs, Jan. 14, 2022, https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2022-01-14/washingtons-missing-china-strategy.  Anne-Marie Slaughter, “It's Time to Get Honest About the Biden Doctrine,” New York Times, Nov. 12, 2021, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/opinion/biden-foreign-policy.html.  Amy B. Zegart, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2022), https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691147130/spies-lies-and-algorithms. Stacie L. Pettyjohn, "Spiking the Problem: Developing a Resilient Posture in the Indo-Pacific with Passive Defenses," War on the Rocks, Jan. 10, 2022.   Dustin Walker, “The Pentagon is in Desperate Need of an Intervention from the Top,” War on the Rocks, Jan. 27, 2022.  Joe DiPaolo, " Newt Gingrich Says January 6 Committee Members 'Face a Real Risk of Jail' if Republicans Win the House," Mediaite, Jan. 23, 2022.  Liz Harrington, Tweet, Jan. 30, 2022.  Newt Gingrich, Tweet, Jan. 26, 2022.  The Hill, Tweet, Jan. 26, 2022.  Stephen Breyer, "Why Regulation Rarely Achieves the Goals It Is Designed to Serve," PBS Commanding Heights (no date). Jeff Darlington and Adam Schefter, “Tom Brady retiring after 22 seasons, seven Super Bowl wins with New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, sources say,” ESPN, Jan. 29, 2022, https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33173652/tom-brady-retiring-22-seasons-seven-super-bowl-wins-new-england-patriots-tampa-bay-buccaneers-sources-say.  Dustin Volz, “Vast Troves of Classified Info Undermine National Security, Spy Chief Says,” Wall Street Journal, Jan. 27, 2022, https://www.wsj.com/articles/vast-troves-of-classified-info-undermine-national-security-spy-chief-says-11643286602.  Oona Hathaway, “Keeping the Wrong Secrets: How Washington Misses the Real Security Threat,” Foreign Affairs (January-February 2022), https://reader.foreignaffairs.com/2021/12/14/keeping-the-wrong-secrets/content.html.  Patrick G. Eddington and Christopher A. Preble, “Bad Idea: Overclassification,” Defense360, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Dec. 6, 2019, https://defense360.csis.org/bad-idea-overclassification/.  Mathew Burrows and Evan Cooper, “Engagement Reframed #1: Vaccinate the world,” New American Engagement Initiative, Feb. 1, 2022, https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/engagement-reframed/vaccinate-the-world/.

Intelligence Matters
Standard Professor and Author Amy Zegart

Intelligence Matters

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2022 34:35


In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Amy Zegart, the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Professor of Political Science at Stanford University about her new book, "Spies, Lies and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence." Morell and Zegart discuss the impact of emerging technologies on intelligence collection and analysis, both of which, Zegart says, have been fundamentally changed by developments like artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and commercial satellite imagery. Zegart also outlines the five "mores" - more threats, more speed, more data, more customers and more competitors - that she says have made the work of intelligence newly challenging. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Talks from the Hoover Institution
Hoover Book Club: Amy B. Zegart On ”Spies, Lies, And Algorithms”

Talks from the Hoover Institution

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 60:09


Tuesday, February 1, 2022 Hoover Institution, Stanford University   Join the Hoover Book Club for engaging discussions with leading authors on the hottest policy issues of the day. Hoover scholars explore the latest books that delve into some of the most vexing policy issues facing the United States and the world. Find out what makes these authors tick and how they think we should approach our most difficult challenges. A discussion with Amy B. Zegart on her latest book, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms moderated by Bill Whalen on Tuesday, February 1st at 10AM PT/1:00PM ET.

Uncommon Knowledge
China, Big Tech, and Cyber Defense: The World According to Zegart

Uncommon Knowledge

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2021 50:07


Amy Zegart is the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, where she chairs the Working Group on Technology, Economics, and Governance. She's also a professor of political science at Stanford, and an expert on intelligence, cybersecurity, and big tech. In this wide-ranging conversation, Professor Zegart discusses the US relationship with China and how she views that country's aggressive stance toward Taiwan; why big tech companies are a potential threat not only to privacy, but also to our national security; and why the next war may well be fought with a keyboard rather than on a battlefield. Recorded on June 30, 2021

MoxieTalk with Kirt Jacobs
MoxieTalk with Kirt Jacobs #305: Shelly Zegart

MoxieTalk with Kirt Jacobs

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2020 49:19


Shelly is a community leader & an internationally recognized authority on American quilts. Check out www.shellyzegart.com for more information. She collects, curates exhibitions, writes, lectures, and appraises fine quilts. Shelly has curated many exhibits in the U.S. & abroad, and lectures on all aspects of quilt history and aesthetics. She is the President of the not-for-profit Kentucky Quilt Project, Inc., the 1st of the state quilt documentation projects. Shelly is a co-founder of the Quilt Alliance & Executive Producer and Host of “Why Quilts Matter: History, Art & Politics” a nine-part documentary featured on more than 250 member PBS stations and whyquiltsmatter.org & now streaming on Kentucky Educational Television. Her private collection of quilts was acquired by the Art Institute of Chicago. In 2013 Shelly was the catalyst for the placement of the International Honor Quilt (see Judy Chicago Through the Flower site) at the University of Louisville Hite Art Institute, & chairs the governance committee overseeing the integration & use of the Honor Quilt at the University. She has built private & corporate quilt collections around the world. In 1985, Shelly was selected for Leadership Louisville & in 2004, she was named a Woman of Distinction by the Louisville Center for Women & Families & an Associate Fellow of the International Quilt Study Center. Shelly is active in a number of community efforts and boards. Her most recent project is Kentucky to the World or “KTW” a nonprofit she founded in 2013 & based in Louisville. KTW is dedicated to enhancing the intellectual reputation of Kentucky, it’s people & its assets through a unique combination of live events and video outreach. KTW features and promotes extraordinary individuals who are passionate about their Kentucky ties through a speaker series for general and student audiences, videos distributed online, through community partners & KET (KY. Educational Television) for further info visit kentuckytotheworld.org. Shelly holds a Bachelor of Arts in Education from the University of Michigan & resides in Louisville with her husband, Dr. Kenneth Zegart & has 2 daughters, Terri Seltz & Amy Zegart.

CFR Campus
National Security and Silicon Valley

CFR Campus

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2019


Amy B. Zegart discusses how new technologies are transforming the nature of national security threats and ways to close the gap between the technology and policymaking communities.

The Brookings Cafeteria
Offensive cyber operations in US national security

The Brookings Cafeteria

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2019 33:33


A discussion about a new volume from the Brookings Institution Press on the increasing role of offensive cyber operations in U.S. national security. Herbert Lin and Amy Zegart are co-editors of “.” Lin and Zegart are scholars at the Hoover Institution and co-directors of the Stanford Cyber Policy Program. Bill Finan, director of the Brookings Press, conducts the interview. Also, Brookings Senior Fellow Molly Reynolds examines congressional oversight of the Trump administration, from subpoenas to impeachment Subscribe to Brookings podcasts  or on , send feedback email to , and follow us and tweet us at  on Twitter. The Brookings Cafeteria is part of the .

The Lawfare Podcast
Herb Lin and Amy Zegart on “Bytes, Bombs, and Spies”

The Lawfare Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2019 54:26


Last week, as part of the Hoover Institution’s “Security by the Book” series, Jack Goldsmith spoke with Herb Lin and Amy Zegart, co-directors of the Stanford Cyber Policy Program. Lin and Zegart edited a recently-published volume on offensive cyber operations entitled: “Bytes, Bombs, and Spies: The Strategic Dimensions of Offensive Cyber Operations.” In the book, leading cybersecurity scholars and practitioners dissect the technical, political, psychological, and legal ramifications of offensive cyber operations. Goldsmith, Lin, and Zegart discussed the book’s inception, its contents, and what role offensive cyber operations have played and continue to play in U.S. strategy. As you've heard recently, we're exploring new formats to expand how we deliver audio content to you. These things cost money; and relevant advertising may help us expand audio content. To do that well, however, we need your input. Please take a few minutes to complete our listener survey.

World Class
A Witch's Brew of Cybersecurity Threats on "World Class with Michael McFaul"

World Class

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2017 24:46


"It feels like cyber is everywhere and yet at the same time insignificant," says Amy Zegart, co-director of FSI's Center for International Security and Cooperation. As cyber talk turns from how technology makes life easier to how it will doom us all, understanding its many perils becomes increasingly difficult. In her discussion with FSI Director Michael McFaul, Amy Zegart breaks down the threats into four easily digestible categories: spying, stealing, disrupting and destroying. Learn more about Zegart's work on security in "Pragmatic Engagement amidst Global Uncertainty: Three Global Challenges" at https://fsi.stanford.edu/publication/pragmatic-engagement-amidst-global-uncertainty.

World Class
A Witch's Brew of Cybersecurity Threats on "World Class with Michael McFaul"

World Class

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2017 24:46


"It feels like cyber is everywhere and yet at the same time insignificant," says Amy Zegart, co-director of FSI's Center for International Security and Cooperation. As cyber talk turns from how technology makes life easier to how it will doom us all, understanding its many perils becomes increasingly difficult. In her discussion with FSI Director Michael McFaul, Amy Zegart breaks down the threats into four easily digestible categories: spying, stealing, disrupting and destroying. Learn more about Zegart's work on security in "Pragmatic Engagement amidst Global Uncertainty: Three Global Challenges" at https://fsi.stanford.edu/publication/pragmatic-engagement-amidst-global-uncertainty.

Stanford Radio
E20 | Amy Zegart: How vulnerable are we to cyber attacks?

Stanford Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2017 28:08


The Future of Everything with Russ Altman: "Amy Zegart: How vulnerable are we to cyber attacks?" ​An international security expert assesses the growing risks at home and abroad. In the Future of Everything radio show, Amy Zegart explains just how worried we need to be about cyber threats. Among the threats: the security of our nation and the safety of our children. “The cyber threat landscape is changing at the speed of cyber,” she says. “And our responses are changing at the speed of government. So there's a velocity problem.” Zegart, co-director of Stanford’s Center for International Security and Cooperation and Professor of Political Science (by courtesy), is also the Davies Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and directs the Cyber Policy Program. Originally aired on SiriusXM on August 19, 2017. Recorded at Stanford Video.

The Future of Everything presented by Stanford Engineering
Amy Zegart: How vulnerable are we to cyber attacks?

The Future of Everything presented by Stanford Engineering

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2017 28:08


In the Future of Everything radio show, Amy Zegart explains just how worried we need to be about cyber threats. Among the threats: the security of our nation and the safety of our children. “The cyber threat landscape is changing at the speed of cyber,” she says. “And our responses are changing at the speed of government. So there's a velocity problem.” Zegart, co-director of Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation and Professor of Political Science (by courtesy), is also the Davies Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and directs the Cyber Policy Program.

CREATE: National Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events at USC
Eyes on Spies: Congress and the United States Intelligence Community

CREATE: National Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events at USC

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2012 56:37


More than a decade after 9/11, the least reformed part of the US intelligence system is not the CIA or the FBI but Congress. This book examines why. Headlines have focused on the extent to which Bush administration officials withheld information from Congress about interrogations, wiretapping, and other controversial intelligence programs. But executive branch secrecy is not the entire story. In Eyes on Spies, Amy Zegart finds that many of Congress's oversight troubles lie with Congress -- and two institutional deficiencies in particular: limited expertise and weak budgetary power over the intelligence community. This is no accident. In both areas, electoral incentives and turf protection have led Congress to tie its own hands and block oversight reforms, even when the problems are known and the stakes are high. Examining more than 10,000 hearings over thirty years, Zegart finds that poor intelligence oversight crosses party lines, presidential administrations, individual congressional leaders, and eras. She concludes that the U.S. intelligence oversight system is well designed to serve the reelection interests of individual legislators and protect congressional committee power but poorly designed to serve the national interest. Biography: Amy Zegart is a Senior Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution. She is also a faculty affiliate at Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation and a Professor of Political Economy at the Stanford Graduate School of Business (by courtesy), where she co-teaches a course on managing political risk with Condoleezza Rice. Previously, she was a Professor of Public Policy at UCLA's Luskin School of Public Affairs, worked at McKinsey & Company, and served on the NSC staff. National Journal featured Zegart as one of the ten most influential experts in intelligence reform. Her academic writing includes two award-winning books: Spying Blind (Princeton University Press, 2007), which examines intelligence adaptation failures before 9/11; and Flawed by Design (Stanford University Press, 1999), which chronicles the evolution of America's national security architecture. She is currently working on a popular book about intelligence in the post-9/11 world. Zegart writes a regular intelligence column at foreignpolicy.com and has published pieces in the Washington Post, New York Times, and Los Angeles Times. A former Fulbright Scholar, she received an A.B. in East Asian Studies from Harvard University and an M.A. and Ph.D. in Political Science from Stanford University.